#lineup-help
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@agile roost try to get rowan badly, hero of choice on him
Can someone help me I'm stuck at this stage.... what can I do to win
@fervent parrot a bit hard to set a team. You need an elite Brutus for many stages. Try
Silas
Lucius
Rowan
A lvl 1 mage one lb or hypogean
Eironn
@delicate gale I dunno, tasi it's a support, having overlvled wont help at all. You better overlvled this mauler, can work better, I dunno.
And tasi should be front of all, no point having something overlvled and backline
Its getting closer but rowan cant tet his ult out
Mh, do you have elite lyca?
@delicate gale try 180 lvl shemira 
I saw this, but the heroes that I can't see?
Yes, sorry sent the old pic
I have a brutus
But no place in my crystal
Fabi, try to see if eironn can hold Frontline
Maybe saveas won't insta kill, I dunno
Hmmm yeah I just wanted her tanky enough to get her ult cause she dies before getting and my assassin cant get to wipe but also brutus and that graveborn mm counters my drez
Hmm ok ill give that a try thx
stop using eironn <240 lvl
It's not like you can chose to use or not, lol, he's the only l
Well, its complicated. You have to protect rowan, try
, again, with
Rowan
Shemira
Eironn
Brutus
Silas
But you have to lower shem def, to be lower than rowan, so silvina will stab shem and get pulled by eironn
Swap rowan Silas if anything, Khasos may one hit rowan there
Thank you for your advice, š„°š Today I could finally defeat the boss with Ainz.
I wanted to try some more for the millionth time to see if I can win before resetting a hero for shemira and after like 25 tries I won....
Still think ima need to change tho so thx
You need a carry
Can anyone think of a way I can get past here? Nothing I do works, thanks!
As far i remember, I had gwyn down to kill oden, but your +20 might be too low
Damn, so I might be stuck? lol
Yeah, it's a hard stage at all
Okay, thanks
Help pls @brave oriole
@robust forum try fawkes if he lock in coffin tidus/odin/mezoth
if mazoth or tidus put gwyn down
I need your help againš
@agile roost should work
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Saurus
Pippa
Add this tasi in the crystal, since you play wilder carry and srsly.. Where's your rowan? Played for quite a while š
What should my next step to focus on be?
@glad acorn to beat this stage you mean? Or what
Yea. If there isnāt a line up to work who should I focus on leveling?
Firstly, do not make every so gle hetoe that you can legendary. Save heroes at elite + nvm what, and Only ascend one by one each faction.
Rowan is like the only one okay, the others shouldn't be legendary yet. Not for now.
You should get more copies of daimon I guess and ascend daimon, rowan, you need a tank, Brutus works e +when you need, I would get Saurus tbh as first wilder ascended, and we'll, safiya I guess that she's okay to ascend for eironn team later
Haha but like Rowan just doesn't like me on this account and thanks won
Well, hero or choice to get rowan 4 copies at least
Rosaline should work nice with Saurus tho
How would I progress if they are all stuck at lvl 120 cap then if I canāt have them legendary
I have been stuck for a while pls help
replace ankhira with shemira
ok
@glad acorn usually, you stay lvl 120,until your carry its 160. Until then you will get better heroes to go up to 120
I dont think belinda is a Good Carry anymore
@main orbit also i recommend u leveling shemira up than daimon as you can make her your carry if you have to
shes in crystal rn guess ill take her out now
Just reset belinda and make shem 140 instead of her
@covert parcel dunno about flora, she doesn't fit, find something tanky there, so thoran can get full energy
Help pls @brave oriole
Ok i'll try
ima do that once shemira does more dmg than her
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Mhh i have nothing left tanky enough
Maybe put fereal there where nara is and replace lyca with brutus
Eironn oneshots farael then
Show hero pool @noble sequoia
Just scroll its right up there Lel
Eironn oneshots Nara raine and lyca daimon only Gets 2 abilitys off Till brutus nukes him
Hmm, im actually shit at this game
thx for ideas Anyways
Help pls
@agile roost try putting brutus 1 Lucius 2 lyca 3 ainz 4 daimon 5
@fervent parrot try swapping Eironn with Lucius
@covert parcel I have used talene thiran front, nara rowan lorsan.dind a replacement for rowan
doesnt work for me Cause my Eironn rly weak but i try abit More
Didn't work
@agile roost Did Ur ainz got 1 ult?
Nope he's close tho should i put the call artifact on him
@noble sequoia
Nara
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
I use this comp aswell and itās so rng, some stages took 300+ but got it afterwards any with youāre hero pool this is what I could find. If u got an Arthur you can try to ainz it but yeah
@brave oriole could you help me
@agile roost mhm, I don't know. Try
Lyca
Brutus
Ainz
Daimon.
Rowan
@brave oriole even will energy artefact daimon get Not even 1 ult there
@noble sequoia swap rowan daimon, but can you try if rowan can hold front down?
He cant
Just put an ainz instead of Rosa and won thanksss
I've never said Rosaline š¢
Have u tried
Tasi
Lyca
Fera
Talene
Daimon
I did it with tasi instead of talene though
How op is cheese tho took me 1 try
Waste of merc
Been stuck here for a little while. Any help is appreciated!
@pale kettle try
Lyca
Saurus
Eironn
Brutus
Daimon
@pale kettle tried 1.Tasi 2.Farael 3.Eironn 4.Queen 5Daimon?
My queen gets deleted instantly so I swapped her out with izold and it worked on the 3rd try. Thanks everyone!!
Also this might be the first win I āve ever gotten without Rowan. Quite eye-opening really.
Reset everyone and make them 80 or just wu and oden?
@balmy hinge only wu and oden, and lvl daimon until 120
How can help me in the stage 556 of tower king ?
Hi some body can help me for clearing this stage?
You Can use you're safiya and take off you're thorax. Rowan go un front with Lucius and safiya behind him with daimon
Hiya if I use resonance to reset a team is there anyone in particular I should choose? Only thane is elite+ in the lvl 1s (sorry wrong channel... )
I heard saurus and daimon r good but should i just pick daimon as the carry since daimon is e+?
I recommend you read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions
@pale kettle
Before you start doing things you will regret.
... what would that be... you would get resources back from resonance, no?
1 or 2?
1
Hey guys, I just hit chapter 30 and I'm not sure which hero I should SI30+ next. I'm debating between Eironn, Thoran, Arthur and Saurus. I don't have Eironn and Thoran ascended but I have enough food and copies to ascend them. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
- #classic-questions
- I lean thoran, saurus and eironn are solid choices though
Is there anyone I should reset for sure? ;;;
Thx for the help
Help the ezizh kicks my ass
Np
2.5m vs. 8m.... might just depend on what relics you have.
I got every relic on the map š¤£š¤£ nothing helps
ferael instead of ainz maybe
Then you need levels or a much better comp.
depends on how close it already is with your actual comp
for this one, you really want to get icebringer and firebringer to underlevel the bosses. otherwise it's most likely a wash
Ok ill try that, but i slowed it down, the ezizh just walks next to my units and they all just die suddenly
Maybe a Merced Saurus w/ +30 SI?
Ill try with ice and fire, they carried me through solar planes
hmmmm ezizh ults and saurus is dead basically
I see
This burning woods? I donāt remember
Ye
How can help me in the stage 556 of tower king ?
Seems like it. I cleared with my Daimon comp and a mercād talene I think: Daimon, Rowan, Ferael, Thoran & talene? Something like that. Maybe oden to burn energy and Nara to hook silvina
Use fawkes or lorsan, tho, Saurus it's the best merc
Best I can do to help: https://afkhelper.nax.is/kings_tower.php?floor=556#
Anyone have a reasonable 31-57 clear?
are you calling my 31-57 unreasonable 
Q did it with 3F grez
I have your Merc so I can try it
How tf your tasi live in 1 though, rosa just annihilates everything there
now you wish you had taken waistband 
But tr sucks with waistband
there's the wacky part, tasi needs to be highest power to take waistband or rosa sweeps her up
Hmm I will have to enhance some of her gear to get over your grezh lol
This is painful, might just stick it on a macro and see what happens
can't use brutus, he's only E
Why? Power cap?
well you're not powercapped lol
you're overlevelled if you can use E brutus in singles without hitting powercap tbh
Bcs my other heroes are well worked
Overlvled
, finished chap 33 with 355 or so before nerf or so
before nerf = overleveled these days 
And 34 with 370 or 375
maybe powercap ratio changes in 34+, idk. But I'm pretty far away from using E heros and I'm like 10 lvls above what other ppl can do this chapter at
Yeah, who knows, deppends of your heroes and tree lvls
Some ppls don't like stars on their heroes etc, I do, and it helps on some close power to cap stages
Anyway, post your stage and heroes, so we can discuss it
Oh, and Rosa follows who?
rowan
not sure if the comp works with eye grezh, idk how impactful belt is for him
gives him a lot of survivability and damage
that said, the comp looks totally doomed until it suddenly works
belt scales of his buffed atk so its 2 in 1 really
I tried a few ainz comps and they looked even more doomed
He mostly need the shield, but try
Albedo
Thoran
Ainz
Arthur
Rowan
I'm curious if ainz dies, if so swap with rowan
ainz dies to fera
I did similar comps, without thoran but I think thoran is kinda misplaced in that comp anyway
I think +20 ainz +20 arthur is not enough to ainz this stage
mirael probably oneshot people so u may just need rng
but ye grez stages at 100 deficit to me were shit to ainz
dont think ita doable at your deficit
most success I had with ainz was a joker fera comp but still wasn't enough
ok literally just cleared it, truth is right, it seems terrible until somehow it just works
Ainz need lyca a lot, spcly without the new artifact
He didn't died to Fera, he did to Rosa or rowan
But anyway, good that you passed somehow

He get a strong shield on start spirit cannot insta kill ainz
not insta, but still killing him
if ainz doesn't live to 15s he's basically useless ngl
My ainz is only +20, my mage tree is low and he's missing dim chest and helm. He's very squishy still
Yeah get the rest of set, and the +30, should be easy with the incoming event
its still funny to me how he's a mage but his ult just sucks qnd his passive carries him
his ult is strong with his and albedo's 30 but he definitely needs goal to proc
i have seen sruff from him whwre his ult still does stuff in high deficits but its rarely the case it seems
this is a worthy stage to merc, early on graveborn with isabella are the hardest stages
hmmmm alright
Yea there are 2 energy reduce in ennemy team it will be hard to beat with shem
1-10 how good is my team?
Any suggestions? Stuck on chapter 12-20 right now.
If you can I would get Rowan ascended higher
@hollow shard
Lucius dura's call
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Rosa
i ended up just using merc lol, but its ok i was able to beat stage 40 without one bc it didnt have isabella
Can someone please help me make a PvE team
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788964052982169600/833439215144140811/image0.jpg
Wondering who I should be using for campaign?
Omp
Read the pins in #classic-questions
Also make Daimon your carrier
Is Talene necessary
No
Then why use her
You have 3/9 on Albedo?
Furniature?
Yes
Fawkes, easy counter of shem
No
3/9 helps her survive
Does she survive untill Ainz gets an ult?
No
Well she's only good for the SI so use her after you get 3/9
Try:
Ainz
Thoran
Rowam
Brutus
Ferael
Also why build Theowyn or how you spell it
HOW
My ferael, and brutus are low
Ferael is there to prevent Shemira from ulting and Brutus is there for the shield
Definitely
I got 400 emblem choice chests.. ill get 300 for light then thanks
And could you tell me a limeup also please? With my heroes
Is this a good team to clear secret forest?(ill put them kn crystal later)
@balmy hinge mhm, just get a strong Saurus merc
merc means???
Not sure if you unlocked it, merc means mercenary, check the friends box, if there's on or off
Preferable a +30 Saurus
This good enough?
Iāve been struggling with setting 3 team comps, but somehow managed to get to 33. Now that this chapter requires 4 teams, what heroes do I use for the last team? I donāt have access to ainzbedo as I am lacking resources atm.
@balmy hinge no, find an ascended Saurus
Help please
Can I get some help with a team?
Do this line up and add in a champion of your choice
Champion?
Yes choice of champion
What does that mean
I mean hero. God idk why I said champion
Oh alr
Im not really sure who to choose tho
Put Rowan back row instead of Pippa and as tanks use Lucius and Brutus
So basically just change out pippa for rosa?
Suggestions? They're really tanky and deal a lot of dmg
@smoky anvil Iām stuck on the same stage ;-;
Oh, well I was kinda looking for a team with more than one change in characters
How to deal with these boys
well that's double coffin atleast so u can gamble with dodge on eirron being your carry
I got the top with nara and the bot with eiron but he still coffin shemira
I tried nemora but her charm was late
unless u run an ainz Carry u want them to taregt eirron and dodge twice
irs not rhe hardest tbh
Find a Gwyneth merc with shroud artifact
i just noticed yours is just M
ye thats not gonna work
try lyca feral with eye or even call
i doubt shem will ever work here
cheese don't seem an options those all either shield or dont do any dmg and ur deficit is low
Ah true Gwyneth can stop them
I didnt get copies of her in this account so i forgot about her
@lone wren i trjed lyca with fereal didng work to he die too fast
Well this one worked but i cant kill them now xD
Use rosaline
She die fast
I just started, do u guys have any suggestions on who I should try to get?
daimon
Use this line-up
Any ideas?
Replace shem with Belinda
guys iām stuck here and donāt know what to do, canāt even ascend my heroes cos i donāt have summons
ferael in p3 and if u can fear fast enoguh or got a +15 tasi with high boots replace lyca with her
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shem in front and lucius oden rowan and daimon
thx mate that really worked
wasnāt expecting that ahahah
would posting all my heroes help?
do you have any tips on how to get more summons?
probably
but i dont see what may be causing u all that trouble
your heroes are well ascended snd invested
Please help
comes by time and generql progression early
i think fereal fear isnt procing cuase of the shotgun guy, so they can can just tank daimon ults
ive gotten down to warek at one shot but time ran out
nara or athalia in p3 four
lucuis daimon isabella tasi and ferael
meant to replace someone in that with nara or athalia in position 4
try either insteqd of isa and put them in p4
u can probably immune the mirael and morvas with wu and brutus frontline ,ainz in p3 and albedo in 4
ferael in 5
should be enough
@lone wren whatās the problem here?
is this the voyage of wonders?
yup
roamersā rhapsody, i think itās the first stage
Who is Nara?
no no just do lucuius daimon tasi nara or athqlia and lyca for now
what about mine?
show me your hero box
u dont rly have a carry
level up mirael andd ascend her same wirh arden and use those 2
reset pwggt,orthos ,skirath and eluard
then dump most the levels in mirael
try keeping most your heroes within 10 or 15 lvls of the enemies and any excess gold or exp dump them in mirael
mirael?
u got to follow the story
there's guides for what to do in that
Oh my Nara isnāt good
dont u have even an E nara?
she's a graveborn hero
otherwise u will need to get one and for now get a merc athalia and do
lucius daimon tasi athalia and Isabella
she's there just to cancel the mehira bats
that's what kills your team
do lucuius daimon tasi nara and lyca
is she not getting the pull fast enough or the frontline dies right away?
Front line
put call and t2 boots on her if she isn't pulling fast enough
what heroes are usally put in a thoran cheese lineup?
is daimon dying right away?
and can lucuius hold up till he gets his shield down?
Daimon dies first
now that mehira's being interrupted, you have to deal with everyone else
He is the last one standing
is your tasi geared well?
if yes switch her and daimon
she should be able to dodge then tele
daimon should have his shield up by the time gorvo land
she mainly needs boots and wp for decent dodge
what artifacts are you using
I reset everything which guys should i use
do i have some replacements for oden?
mirael as carry and arden as support
use golas and whiever other Legendary tank u got copies of
give daimon call
use call on him
is daimon not getting any shields or is his team dying very fast?
Shield isnāt getting there and the team is dying very fast
ok let me think
just run a vanilla daimon comp with nara middle back and an actual tank in front of daimon instead of rosa and you should have zero problems with how overleveled you are
try rowan,tasi,safiya,nara and daimon
your nara can have daimons boots for now and give him any others u got that should get nara to pull mehira fast without lyca
if she still cant give her call
this still got the potential to work but its rng
was she able to cancel bats?
Whatās a vanilla daimon? Can u just say the heroās in order?
try rowan tasi daimon nara lyca
I believe she used her bats
do you have a copy of brutus
nah she didn't here
No I donāt
I didnāt eat him tho 0-0
you get a brutus from like ch15 so he went somewhere lol
I never get one
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0-0 idk then š¤”
What line-up should I use
Guys what is the prio from the new event and its better to use 10 pulls or it dosen't matter
What line up to use I am new
read pins in here
yes and stop doing ascended tier heroee into L or L+
only ascend legendsry tier heroes to L+ for now and slot ascended tier heroes into resonating crystal when u unlock it later in ch 6
reading guides help
check pineed guides in #questions
how do i know the tiers?
On your screen,that you have posted, press on portraits
its all in the guides dw #classic-questions
Any help please? I get destroyed pretty much instantly
Best comp I can use atm just starting
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i'm not a lucretia expert but I imagine you'd get better results trying lucretia cheese rather than daimon comp with lucretia shoehorned in
I had him in there because Brutus seems to be her bane right now, canāt get her to survive long enough sometimes, just finished her off the other day
try using lorsan to link brutus up then adding like a sacrificial twins and rowan/lyca instead of daimon silas ferael
Lol I am and have, probably just need to build some more heroes
try twins lyca lorsan rowan luc
I mean itās close she just gets caught up when he goes immune. Itās him and safiya left every time
These are my heros and who I'm trying to beat, can anyone help on who I should use? Ignore heros being level one I can level them up if need be
I've been trying all day and can't seem to pass them
- stop making L heroes. focus 5A.
- reset wu, eironn, rigby, estrilda, fawkes, saurus nemora.
- put arden and ankhira in pentagram, get to 160.
- get shem to 200.
brutus shem fawkes rowan arden. I sincerely hope you have a rowan - read the pins in #classic-questions
Pls help me
I have a rowan who is elite yes
stop making L heroes
and remove talene and put rowan herplace and slot in ferael
I have stopped maling L heros
good
Hi! Team comp / who to focus on recommendations please!
Gwyneth, daimon, rowan, that one guy with the crossbow, and either safiya or belinda, you choose
Everyone else you can either reset or put on crystal
you're still early
read the pins here to get an idea of what to do at that stage
Lineup? I'm kinda curious to see what cool synergies exist
u will have to explore that yourself
checking the already existing teams and figutr why they work and getting accostumed to what each hero does
also stop making L heroes
is this good layout
check pins here
are u stuck here? because u shouldnt be
i'm not
At this point it's early enough that anything rly should work lol
i'm just trying to get strong
then read pins to know whre to go in the early game
its very important to not screw up
read pins they will help
Then all you can do is level up more, your hero pool is very limited.
If swapping positions doesn't work then just lvl up 4Head.
Would it be worth focusing on Peggy as I got so many copies early on?
She's definitely a top5 LB hero so why not <IMO
She's a tank/supp/sub dps. Used her with a lot of investment in trials so I'm not sure how she does early game. Her SI and Furn is not that game changing anyway so she's probably decent early-mid game
she's not good and doesnt.add smth unique or good to the table
she's sup bar at evrrything she does
Her guards actually does a good job in tanking single target enemy DPS, and they can also lock down a single enemy like Nako does.
She tanks well, but her heals and dps are not that good, but it's something.
So far she seems like a one man army in early game
But she isn't in any of the pinned content so I'm not sure
Probably because she's new and haven't been tested thoroughly yet, would place her over Estrilda in the wishlist.
Will i ever be able to win?
Yes
Hali-gali
Please help, couldn't make good formation.
Im so close to winning then that stupid vampire

I could relate never dies or most likely immortal.
Is there a character that can cancel that move bruh š© š«
Ainzš
He is a uh crossover right?
Right
Btw if you still haven't used your swap scroll you might be good to swap shemira with izold
He'll serve you good
Oh.... I'm sorry I thought above bracket was yours lol
Try your formation like daimon rowan oden silas Lucius
Okay
Make sure silvina targets your rowan
YES i won
Goodš
I'm stuck too and I can win, I just have to retry like 200 times to get the rng rightš
Rng be annoying fr
Yes but that's the gameš
Yea something like that. Obviously you can switch heroes around and put in other heroes depending on the stage
Do
Tasi
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Ainz
stop making L+ heroes
and see who tasi banishes
if ferael she shouldnt need a lyca ro banish b4 he fears
remove lucuis and place ferael in and switch the positon between him and daimon
put a nara instead of lyca is tadi banishes ferael
if not put the narw in p4
tasi and lyca in the front?
Is this the best lineup I can make rn?
Tasi top back line
Lyca in front line
and what else?
shouldn't I use a team comp bonus or something?
oh btw rowan died instantly
aaaaa
I tried some formations. This was the best result, but I could only kill farael
Can't seem to crack this. I'm trying a formation from afkhelper, but +20 Daimon instead of +30. Do I need that +30?
Stuck at 18-13 now, everyone advices me to use Shemira, but I don't have her (shame on me, yeah, never bought from the store). What could be done here?
Hey all! I've returned to the game after almost a 2 year break. I'm currently using Shemira, Belinda, Lucius, Ferael and Tasi as my main team. Should I change Lucius for Thoran? Also, any other change you guys would make with this roster? Thanks in advance!
What chapter you at?
Swap lyca&tasi with brutus&nara
Thanks.
This my comp when clear that stage hope can help
Hali-gali
Athalia kills the whole team with ultimate.
If Rowan has some gear you can do Rowan, Brutus, Daimon, Eironn, Lyca
You can pull athalia arden and use safiya Backline too
Thanks, I was too weak a had to use Ainz
Any Thoughts? I also used Rosaline instead of Lyca sometimes, but She needs a few ascension. Due to Lucius being the strongest she would always support him to get more ults out. Can't seem to get further in the campaign tho. No mats for leveling.
Yeah, mostly bcs Lucius is ascended and shem it's not, so Rosa is mostly useless
All in all, I would not use Belinda and shem together, use Rosa instead of bel
The strategy it's to power lvl a carry, in your case it's a tank
Already got 2 copys of rosa, if I were to get another legy+ I could amp her up a bit..
20-37
Take a ss of the stage?
Nah
I mean a screenshot
What can I say, you have to reset Belinda to 180 and push lyca to 200. Shem is good mostly if Rosa follows, but cannot be with Lucius there, he's too powerful.try for fun, remove Lucius and put Brutus, just to see if Rosa follows shem or still lyca
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To fix your team, honestly to be, you have to ascend shemira at all, else you will get stuck for some time
And don't get more stars on Lucius, put some other lb in the wishlist, Cecilia Gwyneth etc
I thought so. She Mira gets followed BTW.
@winged fog OK, try
Shemira
Rosaline
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
sorry old screenshot, just ascend saurus to M but all same
@frail lodge if you want to daimon, then eironn need some def artifact, grace or eye for pr. Swap daimon and tasi
@brave oriole shemira gets stunned by ulmus and my whole team is obliterated in an instand.
@winged fog maybe you have put wrong your heroes? Shem so be top Backline at all, far from ulmus
okay will try replace eironn artifact.. if eironn/daimon place against shemira.. they somehow always die
@frail lodge yeah, tasi can tank shemira, but rowan also
@brave oriole by tasi I mean. 4 sec outta combat, till then everyone's dead.
How can I beat them?
Thats all I got, srry for the flood
@winged fog well, reset Belinda to 180,then push lyca. Maybe it would work better if lyca 220,lucius 200 at all
@brave oriole OK thx mate
yea they die last.. if i give rowan call, he somehow die first..
but if i give him chalice somehow he die last or forth lol haha okay thanks for the tips will try it later
Ideally you'd start by replacing belinda with ainz, and replacing lucius with like brutus, and finishing rowans +30 asap
Idk what led you down the path to making this your team but it all needs to get replaced except rowan
thank you for the help, i had no idea this was a terrible comp
I'd suggest checking out a team guide comp by arty and trying to go off that, it'll have a ton of options and you can see what you're closest to and build on a team
thank you very much ^^
Any ideas? Or just keep trying sinds itās ezizh stage which require loads of rng
Hi all what is the better team ? I can make gwyneth legendary + but i dunno if it s better or not
Swap out Rosaline and put either Luca or Tasi for her I think, but you wanna push campaign? Or what youāre trying to achieve. And btw donāt make heroes L / L+if you canāt ascend them any further
Whats my best lineup
Pushing campaign, thank you for any input!
def daimon comp
Someone help?
Wanna push campaign
@bleak bridge positioning
Wanna push campaign can i have some help ?
Stuck here debating what to do
brutus, rowan, daimon, fera and tasi behind rowan usually, but I would put nemora there since tasi is only E+
can someone help me?
This lineup is prolly not too great, any suggestions?
I'm stuck, athalia one shots everything
Rowan middle
brutus against athalia(or anyone who can stall her)
ainz top
Switch daimon and albedo
Also show box
Try something like this
I don't have a good fera, he's only e+
It's fine
Daimon on call rowan on chalice
What else?
Not that I know of
I wanted to say nothing else that I know of
My lyca gear is nonexistent
u can alna frontline and switch brutus in for lyca
and not use lyca here
Iām getting destroyed on this level and idk what I should do
Hey yall, can I get some advice for a good lineup? I'm still kinda new and p confused about lot of stuff so yeah-
@elfin trench just stop ascending heroes to L and youāre set
Sweet, thanks for the advice
Like this?
Nevermind
Swap Rowan and shemiras position and use Lorsan instead of Rosa
@honest cave Whoops forgot to tag
Idk what I should do
Maybe try this @pale kettle
If it doesnāt work Iād level up safiya honestly she works well with eironn
Stop wasting recourses of characters that aren't on your main team
Yeah definitely ^^ use the crystal
K will do
Really struggling with this one, any ideas?
arthur alna albedo ainz ferael

I don't have demensional heros :(
how was I supposed to know that
You're not
would you like me to keep recommending meta lineups or would you like to send your heroes too?
Im stuck
well that's a lot of yellow, zoinks.
anyways, i'd recommend mercing it, your options are slim with intelligence carries (bad ones at that) into grezhul graveborn. something like a stacked ainz or daimon should do the job if you surround them with supports and tanks
Ok I'll try what I can
Thank you
@pale kettle thanks, that worked
Im stuck
does anyone know who talene can replace
What is the best team I could make
Completed it with luck
try thoran rowan brutus ferael daimon
i need help i'm stuck
oof that is very bad hero choice
I'm clueless about what to use
oh
it's not too late dw but 3 of your legendary heroes are basically useless in every stage of the game
That gets deleted even faster
well here
are you sure you can't get it with retries? it's daimon after all
put saveas in your crystal he's a very good carry
Well I've been retrying constantly since yesterday tbh
idk then sorry
who do i take out then
try working on 3/9 for your team and +30 on rowan ferael and thoran asap tbh
kaz
thoran? why thoran? Rowan I'm working on, and ferael I understand, but not Thoran
thoran to thoran cheese when you'll unlock 2 teams or high level tower
his SI30 is a need but not right now for you
I see
what no not for the save as crystal for my team so i can put in
Should I just go for red chests for SI30 rowan in this event then?
ahhh thane
ofc as a f2p/lightspender unless you really want a skin you always go only for red chests
I see. TY!
go on reddit and check out whitesushi @pale kettle he does/did very great guides for every stage of the game
How do i make Grezhul do damage like this?
Actually match the team in the first screenshot, the team you showed is not nearly enough to unleash grez's full potential. There will still be a gap though since no 9F
I'm not 100% sure but you need saurus for the constant healing so grezhul's summoned things don't die
Ok i'll try and copy the team
Nvm i don't have the hypogean or celestial hero to do it
Not a single twins or mortas?
which one do i sub for silvina
I don't spend anymore and when i did it wasn't much also took a break for a while
mine is leg+
No reason not to have a copy of the twins at the very least
Cant get past
hey, need lineup help with this mothertrucker, have most champions asc so go ahead and post your whole lineup š
same
What can I do please š
I don't know if I'm locked here due to levels or my lineup
Any help? ā“ļø
U have 3 squishy wilders vs them seems like begging to lose š
Who to furniture wishlist/ tavern wishlist? Im thinking about garrisoning Ainz soon.
Anyone a Idea how to solve this?
what is the best healer i have
Saveas, but he only heals himself. He should be up at level 160 instead of 120 though.
i'm trying i don't have enough dust
Silas
who do i put in for aqua man
you have too many legendaries, only make them legendary if you can make them L+
Wdym
Isabella requires a lot of attention to cc and then I normally get stuck with immortal golus and saveas. Not sure if I can clear this stagetell I can get a L+ or some other hero I currently donāt have yet. Any suggestions?
Best team in general? (Iām a noob)
go to #classic-questions and read the pins
Oh thank you
My main teams are Ainz comp and Daimon comp for pvp. Do they look good, or is there a new meta?
best team to play pve with grezhul without alna? chap 31
assuming he's 9F and fit to carry, grez tasi ferael rowan lyca is a lovely default
you aren't really able to match the meta at that point, you mimick what ones you can and maybe have a third team of your next best heroes
Do they look good with what I do have? Anything that might work better?
scuffed ainz, GB, and [insert carry] is pretty much what early arena looks like lol
lucius brutus lyca rowan shem mbe
try the site. this is winnable. we could spend a lot of time mucking about and finding the solution but w ezizh rng but I'd rather not.
Any help is appreciated!
I can't win
Nevermind Iām an idiot. Solved!
You try Cecilia on Isabel?
Would replacing thoran with gwynth or roseline be a good idea, but I would lose the synergy buff.
Mhm, try to play with Rosa in, she will follow Saurus, rowan middle, or back of Saurus etc
Should I frontline daimon?
Nah, he's too low I guess. Maybe tasi or so @languid oriole
What do I put as my lineup
I just need better tanks everyone gets 1 shot besides saurus
All the elite heroes that you have @novel frigate, but keep lvling Saurus. He's good, daimon back if him, wukong front with Saurus, and back the others 2, Pippa ferael
@languid oriole yeah, move Saurus down with rowan back and Rosa middle
Yeah same thing everyone just gets 1 shot and 5v1 saurus canāt win
Just gotta pray I get copies to level up the others lol the blue hero exp is screwing me too
Use eironn vs mirael
Doesnāt even pull her
Dies so fast š
Cant beef up Saurus until I get more hero exp to average level 120 so Iām stuck for a bit
they mean having your own cecelia jump isabelle to possibly prevent her from nuking your team
I need 1 more copy to make an L+ Saurus, which one should I swap with him? I kinda need Nara for pulling threats such as Isabella tho
suggestions? decided to push today but got stuck on an r2. the ones w the red line is for r1.
who does rosa follow
hold up lemme check rq
estrilda
try rowan, brutus, daimon, mehira, lyca
mehira struggles to ult even w windbinder.
is daimon stealing pot?
yep
swap daimon and lyca then, or brutus and rowan. whatever gets them not next to each other
yea swapping daimon and lyca gets me real close, tho things go south once shem ults, think it's a matter of rng now. thanks

I can't thoran cheese this so kinda stuck
is this possible without merc
i think i did this a really long while back with
- Estrilda
- Hendrik
- Lyca
- Gwyneth
- Rosa +20 si merc
give estrilda and hendrik good gear, gwyneth call if ferael outpaces with fear
kk
Anyideas?
Could someone help me with my lineup. Only on day 2 of playing so far
Help would be appreciated (can get a rep if needed)
@steep night I dunno, try
Safiya
Tidus
Brutus
Khasos
Numitsu
Best counter to athalia is vurk, if you want to use merc
can you guys help me with this one. this map has been super brutal to me 
@brave oriole i need krwlen for next stage i really want to pass this 220 so i can get my emblems and finish thoran si 30 so i can progress in chap31
@analog tinsel try
Izold
Talene
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
@brave oriole didnt work not even close
yeah i'll go try that and get back. 12 345 right
Well i gve him grace he was dying faster vs lyca and baden
u can try rowan brurtus eqimon belinda eirron
if u find cc ia hurting u alot slot in ferael wirh eye or call if needed instead of bel
If he cn survive there and fear them maybe its something but he survive longer wigh nara
@steep night you don't have shroud artifact yet, huh?
eqimon ?
mbe lyca over talene. is daimon getting banished? is he dying b4 ulting?
@brave oriole i do i tried him with shroud but its seems useless
meant daimon
I couldnt get any stars for ahroud the stage was hard for me
@steep night I dunno, it's rlly hard without a good tank. Skreg it was my best tank for maulers. And vurk simple annihilate athalia everywhere. You safiya won't do much due to ferael, so try to make tidus work, better gear etc
Yeah, this map is fukan hard, but there's guides on YouTube, I thi k I've used athalia +30 at all to easy finish it
Is this my best lineup for campaign pushing?
Do vuek work in e+ ?
I have 8 copies of him butvi still dont have food i wanted to A tidus first then go for him
I would go for skreg next tbh. As about elite, low chances
rowan dies instantly, best attempt
@brave oriole well my roster not that great am finishing my carries just now
@rustic nacelle he dies bcs he's the lowest hp I guess
I puted warek on crystal though he can do somwthing with his shield immune
Use talene
try to swap him with Brutus in position
and ferael or tasi if u got E xopy for belinda
So this is about all i have in maulers what to do better ?
@steep night well, this Khasos,cannot tank athalia?
I didnt try that
He hve the best items and all so i wanted him to kill lyca
He can kill her in 3 shots with brutus shield shred
You have to stop athalia xshes killing in one ult your team
And in 2 if he catch his axe
It's complicated bcs your safiya will never do the ultimate, there's nara and ferael
Okay khasos survive the last one and he was tanking athalia
You use call on numitsu?
Should i use chiken then ?
Khasos would die without safiya Mantra
Yes but he just never ult only before he die
Swap with safiya
@brave oriole okay , lyca 2 shot tidus 3 max
Any help ?
@mighty ferry some carry should be lvl 160,not 3 heroes 140, use nara middle
This lineup feels close i killed athalia and tidus with khasos was the last 2 survived
@steep night try to see if safiya vs nara can cast the mantra, put call on safiya
She dont
Any suggestions? I donāt think I have the available heroes to pull this off right now.
Even with tidus fear she didnt use mantra
@rocky crescent athalia looks good for Isa, but dunno who to tank saveas, maybe shem?
@steep night yes, no chance to cast it
Maybe i should remove call so numitsu can use ult faster ?
@steep night nah she won't, nara get boosted by lyca
Best line up so far is
Shemira
Tasi
Athalia
Daimon
Ardon
Ardon/shemira can flip sides.
Athalia stays up long enough for shemira to silence and then I end up with golus and saveas up and they just what die. I gotten down to Saveas and shemira and tasi didnāt have the damage output to overcome his healing
Rosaline would be nice, but try, rowan back of shem
Its frustrating
Its normal, mauler tower takes some time until you build your heroes, safiya suck on nara fereael stages
Tidus was about to kill nara then he jumped for athalia killed her and then was about to kill baden then nara pulled him
Isabella buff throw off the lower chapter balance
They nerfed but still not enough
Was so so close they ll where low hp and abden and lyca survived with dodge when khasos ulted them
Should i upgrade gear for tidus ?
And skreg is far away he have only 3 copies
I have to use 4 cc heroes, guess Iāll wait tell I can get a L+ or some new heroes . Ty Xperta
Finally nimitsu taunted fereal and saved my ass š„²
who should I swap with Saurus? or is it okay this way? I only need 1 more copy for L+ Saurus tho
My current team: Isabella, Nara, Daimon, Izold, Thoran
Go for #classic-questions they can help u@copper jacinth
@steep night yeah, get tidus full t2
No i cant i have to make my eiron full t2 with 1 t2 for fereal i was talking about stars for some stats
And if i give him full t2 gear but not his faction would it be good ?
@brave oriole chicken hit debuff, made it easy. Jeez I never thought I had to think this hard for Low chapter clears
Advice on this stage? Thinking maybe jm just too low power
@rocky crescent yeah, it's harder than you expect 
Charm ferael? @pale kettle
?
With Nemora.. But arden root you?
What are you talking about?
About your stage, but nvm
Please just help me
Need help
What want make One more Red Character Turn Gold to Red? Which One Weak and One Stonger on image?
Only near soon on Maulers
I need help
I am currently stuck on 8th campaign... What lineup is most suited for these heroes? Usually i use daimon, wu kong and switching between rosalinde, shemira, tasi, mehira, ezih (this one dies too fast)
I've stuck on this level, I've tried pretty much everything, but I just can't get it off.
Need more All Level 140
Need Full with Level use Purple with orange
@west meteor How about me?
Same about You need Gold with Gold full level 160
well, you stuck now
Not yet, I'm still moving around chapter 13.
I know but to easy doing, All use 160 level need five enough it
You need to level Wu Kong, your carry needs to be like at least 20 levels above all others.
yeah but his lvl cap is currently 100.. so first i will get all of main 5 to 100, then i will switch probably to those with golden corners so i could level them more via crystalls...
If I were you, I would have Wu Kong and Daimon front row. Rosa, Tasi and somebody else back row.
yeah i am usually using this composition... i am just stuck because of 100lvl cap ....
when i boost all to 100lvl i will switch wu kong and damian for higher ranked heroes so i could level up more
nobody about me? Oof
Chicken is probably the best option for you right now.
Chicken??? Who add from Gold with orange?
Skriath.
Him is Weak?
No, he is good.
Anoki?
Anoki is fine.
welllll
Honestly, anybody but Numisu is fine.
Who weak now?
Numisu is probably the worst of the heroes you showed in that picture.
then Who weak character???
I already said, Numisu is the worst one of the ones you showed.
Yeah, he isn't good.
..................., alright
Numisu is good
Can I get a good team? I'm kinda bored of the current one tbh
Anyone who helped me to build mauler team for further contents and climbing faction tower. Mostly my team got problem to deal with Vurk, a lot of CC skills and SP regen heroes.
so i can't progress until i get fire witch lady to legendary and level all 5 up to 140
well thanks any ways @west meteor
Okay!
who do i put in for seirus
Eironn in ainz comp that's so funny xD
U really need +30 rowan and +30 ainz then u can complete all the way to and with ch30 with only ainz comp
I would still try arthur albedo ainz rowan tasi
I have rowan on si 29 need a bit more chests
i need help i'm stuck
It worked btw so thanks alot! :]
Yeah ainz invested comp is busted xD u just need those si up xD and 3/9 ainz is important so is his 9/9
i need help
Alright, will go for ainz after rowan then :D
Im new need some help xD who should i put in my team?
instead of hogan put lion guy
farm shemira aswell
i forget his name
can u help with this
So should i use shemira instead of belinda?
No I have no idea how to beat any stage
Wich 1 should i use?
second, i still use her and make sure to put her in this space
use the one with more copy, i would go for shemira, summoning graveborn is good choice since you have change to obtain daimon grez fereal.
Some ideas?
how much dmg your Ainz do tho, if it is good and the problem you have is cant use ult because of fereal then try switch silas for lyca
He need to use 2 ults
help
U should overlevel ur carry and don't use multiple carries. Out with belinda. Make saveas 160
he is now he has been
Need help
you built your tank earlier than your carry which is an oopsie
Can anyone help? I'm really struggling..
@stray lintel I'd take Shemira off since your main damage will come out of Daimon. Here's a replay I found at https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=28&stage=58 you can search more. Ideally you'd want Eironn or Ferael, but you have the main heroes such as Daimon and Rowan.
Just done it got really lucky rng
gratz š
Thanks though :)
What could I change about my team?
Nothing
So keep it like that?
@dry shale don't put heroes to L if you can't put them to L+ (for example nemora is sitting there doing nothing). Doing for Shemira makes sense, since she's your carry. Keep leveling her to lvl 140. If Lucius dies before ulting, use Brutus instead. The only thing that you could change, is you could try and aim for 3 faction bonus. You could use Nemora instead of Rowan, or Belinda instead of Tasi/Lyca. Belinda will buff Shemira attack, that's all she's there for. You have a few options, but if the team you have right now works, don't change it. Keep all your Graveborn fodder for Shemira. Also you can read the guide pinned in #classic-questions it'll help u 
Nvm 30-1 with my champs is undoable
@pale kettle have you had a look at https://afkhelper.nax.is/ ? I found this replay, you might have the heroes. You're putting Ainz and Daimon into the comp, it's better to put 1 carry and have other heroes support him than putting 2 carries and they'll die
The Belinda buff for Shemira sounds nice, but which one should I remove for her? Lyca or Tasi? I have no idea which one is better š¤
All I know is that Lyca gives haste in the beginning so I guess it would be worth it to keep her right?
What do
Isabelle just oneshots everyone when she ults
@dry shale try both. This game is about repositionning heroes and seeing what's best
and trying out comps
I tried Belinda and removed Tasi for her. Seems to work pretty good so far. Thanks for the help š
Should I level up my grezgul or my izhold as my 2nd frontline?
Can I cheese this?
I come till like Brutus 1vs1 of sometimes even Thoran with eironn but Brutus just claps me
i need help beating this
Check pinned post in #classic-questions
I still feel like Iāll do it wrong
Im new as well, but here's what I learned :
Only use heroes that start off as blue for leveling fodder. You need most of the natural rares (also called Ascended tier) for later. This is the "Optimal" way to play the game.
Focus on Shemira early - you'll get a bunch of copies for free, so she is easily going to carry you for the first couple of weeks at least.
I recommend spending your faction specific scrolls on Graveborn (the 4 factions rotate daily, just wait until its Graveborn). They have good heroes and you will need the fodder for Shemira anyway.
Don't overbuild one faction. It's a lot harder to level ascend heroes later, especially if you are leveling multiple heroes in one faction
Focus on your top 5 heroes in terms of leveling up. Spending resources on others is not necessary as you will be able to lvl them up (kind of) to your 5th lowest for free on the crystal
Find a newbie guild in #guilds It will be a lot easier to ask questions there š
@shadow marten
Most of this is correct. A lot of the early progression is explained in the guides pinned in #classic-questions . I disagree with Shemira. There are way better carry options out there past hero lvl 160. Shemira falls off hard and is basically useless in the endgame, except for TR (where you can just merc her). She should never be on your wishlist, but if you got unlucky and Shemira really is your only choice, best thing to do is garrison an Ainz and link him. @shadow marten
like what options, i m omw for ascending shemira past lvl 160
Ascending, as in she's M+ now? Best early to midgame carry option is Daimon, followed by Ainz and Eironn. It can vary a lot depending on your heores
i dont have the same lvl of copies of her
If you need help with who to ascend I recommend posting your hero roster in #classic-questions . People there can help you
i just got really lucky with shemira, i already have another E+ copy of her, i m 2 dupes far from getting her to white border
like i should just Ascend her since i just have a lot of them
This is a team I came up with unless I could do better
thats fine
pls help with this
@fervent parrot you will probably just need to grind out some levels. Try doing side stuff like Peaks of time, they are pretty easy if you can borrow a 5 star Ainz from a friend.
Other than that, I usually max my carry hero and only lvl the others when I can't invest in it anymore, but it really depends on your lineup and I don't really know how most of your heroes perform at that lvl
Suggestions on who to work on?
Stuck on 15-40, how should I clear it? I'm aware of my mistakes with my L heroes
Hard stuck here
anyone know?
Hi anyone can help with ascending from this one's?
Any ideas?
Swap rowan and brutus, ezizh out for lyca
could you tell us what exactly is happening?
No one on the enemy team is dying
That is problematic isn't it
could also try mehira out for fera, ezizh out for lyca, brutus and rowan swap, then brutus out for tasi
Mehira could ult but somehow safiya does 0 dmg when charmed
could also work with izold since there is a numisu
As JD said you could just make it a normal singles daimon team instead of using mehira
Okay ill try that. Its just because whenever i see a safiya i think of nem or mehira
Elp
Bruh turns out i just need to stop being creative

well not really there will be times that u need to and vs certain enemies but for the most part solutions are usualy simple enough if u got the knowledge
what's causing u the most trouble ?
seems like a win that will judt need better rng
idk, its like i kill isabella whos usually the problem, but shemira ends up hard dpsing down daimon while hes rooted by the idiot ulmu, and the deer heals alot so it keeps outhealing daimon dmg, no one else in team survives past isabella death except daimon
well for now try switching arden and daimon
u may try to slot in a twsi instead of arden and see if she banishes shem
Stuck on 15-40, any help?
What Heroes should i be aiming for here?
daimon and saurus, then maybe safiya
what line up would i use with daimon and saurus?
basic daimon comp is
rowan brutus
lyca fereal daimon
saurus is just good to have becuase of his healing and uses in bossing and stuff
rowan tasi
daimon brutus fereal
Ok ill try, also at that lvl, anyone tanking other than brutus, daimon, rowan will get 1 shot, they already get 1 shot jn the back line lol
been stuck for a while now :(
stop making L heroes and reset eirron,lucuis,gwyn and funnel everything into like a mirael or that saeves he's already L+
and read rhe pins here
okok thanks
I'm stuck here too
I can't seem to pass this stage every character dies really quickly except daimon
I tried alot of different teams
š„²
i need a lineup to push through and past 13 and also donāt know who to ascend if needed for my maulers
Swap arden with daimon, he'll get charmed everytime
Swap daimon with fawks, and swap fawks with rowan
Might have to get rid of fawkes altogether, heās dying fast anywhere I put him
Got damn 180s at ch13? Best advice is to get daimon to 160 and slap with brutus daimon
Nobody?
Yeah he's a deadweight because he'll die before coffin
So, you want to make a team of 5 with these heroes if I'm getting it right?
Yes, on Only Club Five Top on Club Four
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