lineup-help

[tulip belfry]

example?

[tulip radish]

Shemira

[tulip belfry]

i put her in the back do i put her in the frontline?

[maiden marsh]

Shemira, belinda, mirael, daimon, etc

[tulip radish]

if she is overleveled, front line for faster energy

her ult is AoE dmg

[tulip belfry]

wait a sec mirael is good? never thought abt her being good ngl

[hallow stag]

How do you deal with Tasi’s banish? She just wrecks me because she banishes Daimon twice, taking him out of the fight and everyone else just melts.

[tulip radish]

below 120, yes, 1 shot girl

[tulip belfry]

my mirael is elite, so lvl 100 ig

also do i remove gorvo?

[fossil compass]

Feeling a bit hardcapped right now at 9-40, am I prioritizing the wrong units, or is it just about waiting for resources to bring everyone to 120+

[tulip radish]

try lower Daimon's atk and boost someone else atk so tasi will banish other than Daimon

[tulip radish]

yeh, brutus is better at this moment

[hallow stag]

Ning, only put levels & dust into 5 heroes, maximum, and then use the resonating crystal for any other hero’s. Read the pinned guides.

[hallow stag]

Hm, ok, thanks

[fossil compass]

@hallow stag yes I learned that but haven't reset my <80 heroes from when I started, so now only 5 are at 100+ and rest are in crystal

[blissful mist]

U don't have any cc heroes so u have a hard time against any heavy hitter

[tulip belfry]

also remove raku?

oh wait, i dont have gear for belinda since i put in mirael

[blissful mist]

U should reset the 5 heroes less than lvl 100 it's a waste of dust and exp hero

[hallow stag]

@fossil compass you should post your roster. Also, resetting a hero isn’t expensive, but getting that experience back will help a lot. I would just do it. You get so many diamonds early that it’s worth setting yourself up properly as early as possible

[fossil compass]

That's fair I can reset them. It will be good to get back some of the exp @hallow stag @blissful mist

[tulip belfry]

do i lvl brutus to 120? it gave me that when i was lvling him

[blissful mist]

@fossil compass I would put tasi Fawkes and eironn in cristal and avoid using shemira with Belinda cause they are both carry

[tulip belfry]

my mirael is still lvl 80

[blissful mist]

@hallow stag if u try eironn and tidus does tasi still have time to banish daimon ?

[tulip belfry]

@tulip radish

[weary trench]

Is this formation going to be my best shot at this level?

[tulip radish]

mireal can only 1 shot if she Overleveled

[gusty tinsel]

Brutus is trash. Kelthur is the best

[tulip belfry]

im confused now, what exactly do i put and lvl? ill send a screenshot of all the heros i have

[gusty tinsel]

Daimon is god tier for early game

[blissful mist]

@weary trench u have to focus the silvina I think cause she will kill Rowan too quickly

[tulip belfry]

lvl 100 tho

[fossil compass]

Okay! I can make some crystal changes in 24 hours. Any thoughts on what should be in there?

[hallow stag]

Let me try it. I can’t possibly get someone to have higher attack than Daimon, even if I remove all his gear, so I’ll have to try something else.

[tulip radish]

for ez way, lv shemira to 120 first, Lucius later

[blissful mist]

@fossil compass as I said some heroes that have cc like Fawkes and tasi, tho the best is Nara but u don't have her

[tulip belfry]

so i make Lucius 100? ok

[gusty tinsel]

Please someone help Marr.

I'm not good at giving advice 😂

[tulip radish]

yeah sure

[fossil compass]

Yes you also suggested eiron, is he worth me cutting one of the 3 I already have, maybe Peggy? I used her early on since she was on the free trial and she seemed somewhat helpful but seems like she's falling off a bit for me now

[tulip belfry]

done, shemira frontline?

[gleaming python]

Can’t pass this level, can anyone help?

[tulip radish]

yep, if she die too fast, backline her after brutus or lucius

[blissful mist]

Yea eironn is also good but if he stays elite he will most likely die before pulling the ennemy, but still a good hero to have to stall a bit the fight. And yes Peggy seem kinda bad for me so I would replace her @fossil compass

[tulip belfry]

ok so lucius nemora mirael backline, shemira brutus frontline? got it

[tulip radish]

have to say peggy isnt the best for that slot

[blissful mist]

Tbh if u have shemira I don't really see the point of having mirael too especially since she is only elite

[tulip belfry]

belinda?

[gusty tinsel]

@tulip belfry please check tier list on google and put them on your wishlist.

[blissful mist]

No u need some cc heroes but u don't have any, the closest u have is silvina

[gusty tinsel]

Daimon is the best carry from end to late game.

[tulip radish]

why you backline Lucius and frontline nemora tho?

[tulip belfry]

tbh i have nemora for healing thats it

[gleaming python]

@tulip radish that was a missclick

Don’t worry I was doing it with Lucius in the frontline

[blissful mist]

U don't need more support but cc

[tulip belfry]

do u have a link?

[maiden marsh]

google tier list would be an awful idea, better to check the pins in #classic-questions @tulip belfry

[tulip radish]

try swap out shemira for fereal

[gleaming python]

@tulip radish holy shit. That actually worked.

Thx

[gusty tinsel]

@maiden marsh 👍

[tulip radish]

for cc, you can lv the wilder old man Arden, start ascend him to L+, he is very useful early, can cc 3 enemy, @tulip belfry

[tulip belfry]

oh arden? ok

[tulip radish]

congrat, you only need 1 main carry, if you use belinda, swap out shemira, use a cc champion instead, 2 carry isnt that good

[tulip belfry]

i need more of arden so sad 😭

[brave oriole]

Shemira needs rosaline rowan 99% of the stages

[tulip belfry]

do i need eironn or saurus btw?

[brave oriole]

Later, yeah, good to work on

All the Wilders, but I would say Saurus first, then eironn tasi lyca

[tulip radish]

back in the time, Saveas and Arden is must have early haha

[blissful mist]

Belinda heavily depend on Rowan and Rosaline too

[brave oriole]

Saveas never been

[gusty tinsel]

Raku also good. He is an executioner.

[blissful mist]

Saveas was a beast in early game

[brave oriole]

Not for me 🤓

The mom they released rowan rosa, mirael it was much better

[blissful mist]

He was one of the few that had good damage and self heal

[tulip belfry]

i want the stargazing room i have 10 cards

[gusty tinsel]

The only rare i used is Silvina lvl 121+. Sometimes her ultimate skill can instantly kill an enemy with full HP if they have a lot of energy.

[brave oriole]

The best rare, arden

[tulip radish]

yeah, the 3 men entangle is sick at f

[brave oriole]

Used arden like a boss until late game, well chap 26+

[tulip belfry]

the enemies are now lvl 100 oh god

might need help in a sec

[brave oriole]

Part of game @tulip belfry, later its 180 lvls gap

[tulip radish]

well make sure to stargazing twins

[tulip belfry]

my mirael keeps dying

[reef hazel]

Ummm, idk what you can do, but maybe try using Lyca instead of Brutus and Belinda intead of Shemira to get faction combination advance

idk if this will help
Also maybe using Eironn in fronto Silvina, trying to avoid she attack Mirael

[ebon hazel]

Silvana pounces on her, nothing much you can do besides swap gear or drop nemora for a sacrificial unit

[agile roost]

Help pls

[ebon hazel]

Daimon
Lyca
Fareal
Brutus
Rosa?

You're kinda lacking a lot of key people

[thorny pine]

What should I make my lineup

Pls

What should I make my lineup

[agile roost]

who are the key people?

[ebon hazel]

Calm,
Arden
Lucius
Mirael
Ogi/Hogan
Peggy

[ebon hazel]

Rowan Tasi and Eironn are like the three you almost have to have

[agile roost]

i have them all tho

[ebon hazel]

Eironn and Rowan need investment

And Tasi would just get destroyed by that Silvana

[agile roost]

tru and i only have them at elite+

and with that formation i keep getting beat

[brave oriole]

Silvina will be always painful for you, cuz your rosaline it's higher than rowan

[ebon hazel]

Rosaline is the sacrifice

[strong badge]

I can't tell who fawkes coffins
Rowan has some survivability

[drowsy gazelle]

Probably daimon

[strong badge]

I can see daimon doesn't get coffined probably rowan

Ferael 135k so i think he gets coffined

On attack rating

[brave oriole]

@strong badge just use nara and not eironn. He's not fast enough to cancel safiya mantra

And maybe put rowan front of daimon

[ebon hazel]

Doesn't help, no Ainz properly leveled

[jovial mango]

oops lol not the same level

[oak drum]

Feeling like I have so many good heroes. Not sure what lineup to use. Gonna take Lucius to M when I get the fodder

[ebon hazel]

Daimon Mirael Lyca thoran and one other tank, don't take lucius to M

[spring quiver]

What is a good graveborn lineup if i want to have silas and ferael in

[oak drum]

@ebon hazel is lucius not good? I was lucky to get 4 of him I felt like

[ebon hazel]

Silias
Thoran
Fareal
Grezhul
Shemira

[spring quiver]

I've bewn told shemira is bad

[ebon hazel]

Lucius is good only when overleveled or equal

[spring quiver]

This is already my lineup lmao

[ebon hazel]

She is pretty bad late game, needs time to ramp up, can replace her with Oden or Isabella

[spring quiver]

Also, grezhul > daimon or < daimon

[keen fulcrum]

They all die before Ainz gets a chance to cast

[spring quiver]

Moar tank

[keen fulcrum]

All my tanks are only elite

[agile roost]

Help

[brave oriole]

@agile roost you can try
Fawkes or lyca tasi
Lucius call
Rowan
Rosa
Shemira

[opaque lotus]

Should i use a swap scroll on shemira, for eironn, and do that comp with tasi, lyca, eironn, rowan, rosa

[oak drum]

@ebon hazel so if I took him to M I would need to level him up after I level daimon?

[ebon hazel]

Who?

[blissful mist]

I would swap shemira for daimon he would carry you more than eironn imo

[lone wren]

try joker backrow in the 5th spot ans swe if he can interrupt fast enough if wirrin pulling him isnt eorking thx to the tasi

pippa should work also
there's alot of tanks here so i would daimon it
so smth like rowan brutus daimon ferael tasi or lyca

that righr side should eng dodge and tele/get our of the way while theyre distracted on brutus

[opaque lotus]

But what comp would i put daimon in?

[blissful mist]

@opaque lotus Rowan lyca daimon ferael tasi should work fine

[opaque lotus]

Ok im doing it

Yolo

[agile roost]

Can u help me

[onyx pollen]

Help

[agile roost]

On this

[blissful mist]

Rowan lyca daimon eironn ferael ? @onyx pollen

[onyx pollen]

I Will try

[agile roost]

@blissful mist

[ebon hazel]

Gwen comp, estrilda facing Ogi and Lyca support

[blissful mist]

@agile roost Brutus Lucius ainz Rowan Nara maybe

[ebon hazel]

So Estrilda Arthur Rosa Gwen Lyca

Or drop estrilda for rowan

[frozen hemlock]

Is solise any good?

[lone wren]

decent

not priority

needs investment to be good

[ebon hazel]

Decent early game, not as much scaling as others

[blissful mist]

She can be use at +309 to cheese but otherwise kinda meh

[brave oriole]

Solise it's a waste as f2p

[harsh edge]

anyone got a +30 9/9 khasos I could merc?

[agile roost]

Nah keep getting killed

[blissful mist]

@agile roost who's the problem ?

[maiden marsh]

#mercenary

[harsh edge]

whoops thanks

[agile roost]

Fareal

[blissful mist]

@agile roost u could try with talene instead of Brutus

[ionic lava]

Wha5 would work on this

[tulip belfry]

my mirael always dies, what should i replace her with

[agile roost]

Still no luck

[hexed depot]

Any tips here

[woeful fjord]

How do i beat this stage?

[blissful mist]

@hexed depot try Lucius daimon oden Rowan Nara

[tulip belfry]

so since mirael keeps dying, what should i replace her with

[pale kettle]

does your nemora even manage to heal with her ult? @tulip belfry

[tulip belfry]

yes

30% plus Lucius ability which makes her protected, and she can cast her ability while in max health

[pale monolith]

STOP ACENDING TO L IF YOU CAN'T ASCEND TO L+
The best healers early-game are Silas and Talene
You don't meed to run 2 carriers in 1 team
I'd made Daimon my carrier over Shemira

[tulip belfry]

yes ik, i made a mistake ascending, but also my damion is elite so i cant get him to over 100

[pale monolith]

Resonating crystal

[hazy oracle]

I went Drez on my alt account XD

[pale monolith]

Also you don't need to make Daimon your carrier now, but it's a WAY BETTER choice then Shemira

[tulip belfry]

oh

[hazy oracle]

So - put him in the crystal. Even if he is E or E+ he will be bumped to the lowest level in your top 5

[pale monolith]

You deserve a medal, but Merek > Dreaf

[hazy oracle]

Don't level more than 5 heroes

[pale monolith]

Also, always keep your carrier 40 lvls above everyone else

[hazy oracle]

I'm not worried about me. My main account is stacked. I'm in 34 and pushing to 35 in the next two days or so - I was trying to help @tulip belfry out

[pale kettle]

Main issue is Fereal

[pale monolith]

Ferael instead of Nemora or Cecilia

[pale kettle]

Nothing really happens when i use Ferael

[blissful mist]

U need a Nara to counter those ennemies

Or u can try Fawkes

[pale kettle]

Fawakes sucks in Belinda, doesn't solve the main issue which is Farael

I was thinking of Cecilia killing Belinda then have Fawakes suck in Farael but he can't survive that long

Tried over 50 times with that strategy and I didn't even come close

[blissful mist]

Put Cecilia in middle so she focus ferael then it will make him do less damage

[pale kettle]

@blissful mist ❤️ first try, Cecilia died instantly when i tried it, but I didn't think of giving her Dura's Grape which won me the game

[blissful mist]

U will have a hard time pushing if u don't ascend some heroes tho

[pale kettle]

I know right, I've made mistake to make Belinda legendary which i regret.

[steep night]

Help

[pale monolith]

Why are you running the same faction for all your heros? It never says that anywhere
Send all your heros

[reef vigil]

What could i make?

[hazy oracle]

So... This is vague @reef vigil you are almost a blank slate. What do you want to build?

[stiff shard]

once you get level capped, have to switch your main 5 to E+ @reef vigil

so level saveas, silvina, mirael

[reef vigil]

Ok

[stiff shard]

ig estrilda and respen, but ideally 2 other fodder before them

never use smart ascend either, only auto ascend

might have had an E+ arden by now, instead if E arden and E ira

still have to plan your fodder accordingly

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Izold - Front row;
Shemira/Daimon(As soon as you get him), Tasi/Nara, Silas - Back row;

[steep night]

Oden dont work @pale monolith ? I dont want to use shemira as a carry in this acc i wanted to try something else

[pale monolith]

No

[hardy quartz]

So I’ve been playing for about a year and a half. And I’d still consider myself fairly nooby for how long I’ve been playing. Because I just don’t understand every hero’s strengths/weaknesses or which hero’s counter which hero’s and things like that. I usually just look at leaderboards and copy whichever team is being used by the highest ranking players. And substitute in hero’s if I don’t have a certain one in the line up. But I was hoping somebody would be able to help me out together a good campaign and a good pvp team.....I’ve been using the team in the second photo for most of my campaign and pvp battles, and only switch it up if that team doesn’t do the trick. And when that happens, I usually just put random hero’s together until I get a team that wins.....But any team building help would be much appreciated....I have SI 30 on Rowan, shemira, eironn, ferael, Arthur, and saurus. And I have 9/9 furniture on lucius, Lyca, nemora, and Nara.

[pale kettle]

I need to nara it right

[nocturne furnace]

yeah

[pale kettle]

Fking Brutus 1vs9 sadge

[nocturne furnace]

u can try daimon instead of erionn as well since u have a lot of investment in him

[nocturne furnace]

only suggestion i have is to put erionn middle, tasi where erionn was, lyca where tasi was, and then ferael where lyca was

that comp can also be used in pvp

[molten lark]

help please

[amber halo]

+30 shemira is useless. 9/9 for lucius is bad too. Ainz comp is pretty meta atm. Daimon + eironn comp. 5 Pull. Lucretia cheese. Izold comp. Ainz comp seems to be one of the strongest for single stage.

[amber halo]

not to sound arrogant but why are u 360 at ch 31?. Im 307 at ch32. U didnt push or?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle mostly rowan front of Brutus, eironn with call, and Saurus back of eironn, no tasi

[lone wren]

he already got the shem so he may as well know that she's onlt ever good after ch 20 at one boss with +30 which is dark nemora

he already got alot of options to swap mainly that lucuius if he wants

[slate merlin]

Hy can someone please tell me what best helps against 5 Talene bosses ?! 😩

[muted dust]

Help, ulmus is too annoying and heals everything, safiya kills my daimon

[lone wren]

first of no need to worry u didnt screw up(that bad) and some of those screw ups can be circumvented by the swap scroll

right now u got many solid heroes at A which is good u would only need a few more such as:silas,tidus,raine,

[pale kettle]

Swap shemira out for something above I think?

[lone wren]

if u want u can check pve team guides on reddit ,i will link a good one that puts why each works well and for the part about not knowing heroes u can go through their skills ans furn and si tonget a general idea of whatvit does then test it in a team that u think would work

if u got this far u already know the basics and who can and cant generally win againat what and what're their bad matchups

its just experience from here

[lone wren]

if he wants i would swap Lucius for grez in a heartbeat

[pale kettle]

Yeah true, Lucius really meh late game

[lone wren]

if u can get either a merc ferael with +20 atleast or get your to thatvit will help immensely

[pale kettle]

Any1 got a screenshot for 30-30?

[lone wren]

merc a big ainz

preferably +30 and A wirh some stars

[muted dust]

@lone wren what do I need a ferael for?

[pale kettle]

Cc

[lone wren]

for anti heals and disruption

[muted dust]

i'll try that tmrw

[lone wren]

niru heals alot and does alot of dmg

enemy ferael interrupts your 2 carries often and ulums heals alot and saf is rsther slow and if u can stun her out of her ult that got a long windup and her scstter bolt which is on a rsther long cd often she means nothing in thr fight

[muted dust]

the problem is that everything except daimon dies within the first 10 seconds of the fight

[lone wren]

well u can for starters reduce battle speed to one and see what opener hurt the most and what cc that out right denys you any move

its always different for each hero,level of investment,level gap so i can give u general ways to beat it but its mostly on u to figure who screws u up the most

[lone wren]

i would try smth like daimon rowan nara tasi and a bigger ferael

[muted dust]

silvina ohkos my tasi

[lone wren]

see if u got other good gear that would make her have less deff than rowan Or
wait on dodge rng,silvina doesnt do heaps of dmg after thr first dive and the ult and tasi can run later

[keen fulcrum]

what should I do?

[lone wren]

or remove tasi for lyca or even fawkes if u got good gear for him

his cofin requires good acc to hit

[lone wren]

drop eirron he's not good ewrly without proper mythic gear
and show us your other heroes to see what u got to work with

[keen fulcrum]

my other heros are not the best I dont have enough copies to legend diamond or a decent tank

[muted dust]

reset your rosaline and overlevel your mirael. @keen fulcrum

ainz doesn't work as well without albedo and arthur, he dies too fast

[keen fulcrum]

I had enough hero essences to level mirael to 120

[muted dust]

overlevel means level up mirael to like 140

[keen fulcrum]

how do I do that? I cant ascend mirael to legend right now

[muted dust]

oh level capped nvm

[keen fulcrum]

yeah

[muted dust]

try this:
daimon
wukong
eironn
izold
tasi/oden

[stiff shard]

says this matchup is an rng outcome, are either noticeably easy to win against/counter?

[lone wren]

u face q nerfed versrion of this so if what u fsce isnt +30 or 9 furn ferael go for that

shem is annoying if u dont got high burst and anti heald

[stiff shard]

ok ty o7

[real goblet]

I'm trying to use ainz as my early game carry but he's always dying before he gets to ult. Mireal seems to do better for me, but the guide I was using said that ainz should perform a lot better. I'm currently using him with hogan, rowan, arden, and lyca. Any suggestions how I could change supports or something with what I have to help him get his ult off? Or should I just stick with Mireal?

[pale kettle]

I’m going crazy 😂 please let me know

[brave oriole]

Need Saurus instead of tasi @pale kettle

[native grotto]

Best team i see is eironn 5 pull and could do arthur+gwyn or arthur ainzbedo

[native grotto]

Ainz must needs mythic and +0 bare minimum and +10 to perform otherwise any Carries can outperform him like mirael shem belinda and anything. 5 seconds to cast his ult is a lot of time

[real goblet]

Ok ty

[haughty osprey]

Whats this?

[pale kettle]

Like this?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle yeah, but eironn needs call I think

[pale kettle]

Sau gets onetapped be4 he can ramp up

[frail lodge]

hello wanna ask about tips for this stage 27-56 or artifact? already follow afkhelper but my SI & FI not the same..

eironn always die and dont ulti

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle mm, he should survive, he goes on eironn, right?

[pale kettle]

What arti on sau?

[lone wren]

tolda ya

use daimonfor this one

i did tasi rowan daimon lyca and ferael

alot of rng is needed for athalia to preferably not ult or not to ult on daimon

tasi wants to get rhe potion and by thr time she moves away daimon moves up and becomes in ramge of the next potions

[pale kettle]

Close only Brutus alive

[narrow lark]

I am so tired of this event =_= Please help

[weak island]

Heya, really stumped on this one, Daimon only manages to use his ult twice maximum due to the energy drain, and my team just ends up stunned until they die

[summer cedar]

When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool. even without that knowledge, not using rowan on single stages seems off to me.

[pale kettle]

Like this? Or different

[lone wren]

oh wait you're on 30 30 lol

thought it was 29 60 because of the ezizi

u also were just on 29 58 or so the other day

[summer cedar]

use daimon but keep nara in position 3

[pale kettle]

So swap fereal and daimon right @summer cedar

[weak island]

Nvm, after a reposition and a few retries j passed it

[summer cedar]

that's not even close to what I said. read that again

[pale kettle]

Soz 😂

[twilit socket]

Who should I level up/build

[summer cedar]

wukong. read the pins in #classic-questions

[frail lodge]

oh sorry my connection got trouble b4 .. the pic i sent was failed so only sent 1 pic.. and already passed it thx yea should be using rowan my bad

[summer cedar]

tasi rowan lyca eironn daimon would be my go-to here. have u tried the site?

[pale kettle]

Just keep trying or wait till I can use my merc Nara A tommorow

[summer cedar]

try the site then. I do think this works but ezizh stages are just annoying rng-wise.

[lone wren]

two poison/bleed appliers arent fun also

[ionic lava]

@lone wren is this possible at my level is so please tell me what I can do

[grim bloom]

Yea move daimon and rowan to the front and chimera & lyca to the rear

@ionic lava that should help

[normal quarry]

@drowsy gazelle There, mmaybe for a bit depth insight if you willing.

[drowsy gazelle]

yea just make mirael to L+, doesnt seem much loss here, youcan try using both of them as carry

[normal quarry]

Thanks!

[balmy hinge]

I need help I can't beat this stage

[runic heron]

Just level up your heroes
Or enhance their equips

[desert timber]

Help pls

[odd star]

Merc an Ainz to try, with your heroes I don't think you can beat 5 Talenes

[desert timber]

I know

[odd star]

Sorry mate, never bet against 5 Talenes

[desert timber]

I won by luck

[odd star]

Pog!

[desert timber]

I was just hoping the enemy to have less health than me when the time ends and it did

[haughty osprey]

Help me out idk wat to upgrade

[brave oriole]

@haughty osprey lvl daimon, he's a great carry

[short nest]

This is my team. I’m early game so will change most later but should I use Raine or Gwenyth cause I don’t have anything better and need faction bonus

Ig I could use nemora but then won’t get a bonus

Could use fareal too actually

[odd star]

Gwyneth over Raine

[short nest]

Fareal*

Can’t spell bro farael

[odd star]

But they are different, gwyn is a carry but Raine is a support

[short nest]

I already have shemora as carry

That’s why I’ve been keeping Raine even though she’s not the best

[odd star]

And don't worry about needing to get 5 heroes of the same faction

[short nest]

Well who do you suggest I use then

[odd star]

Raine so far is only useful for wrizz and soren

[short nest]

Who do I use instead of Raine

[odd star]

Gwyn then, but you need to build up your repertoire of heroes

In the meantime build Shemira until ascended, she will carry you till early chapter 20s

[short nest]

I’m trying man lmao

Thanks for input though

[gritty raven]

Need some help pls

[rare holly]

Can i take a look at your wishlist?

[alpine jolt]

I want to use swap scroll on Belinda (signature +20) or shemira (sig +30 1f) . Which hero to swap it with? Towards endgame comp. Shemira is already falling off post ch. 25 and Belinda is kinda usless rn

[brave oriole]

Can't see your Shemira +30,maybe I'm blind

[odd star]

@gritty raven please don't put Peggy in your wishlist

[ashen dragon]

Any lineup as is that can get me through this? Most afkhelper use eironn, but he's getting dunked on at m+

[gritty raven]

Who to use duras grace on

[pale kettle]

Stuck on 17-24. What should i do? (Which heroes to use, formation, etc.) Fill free to Ask me anything! 😄

[past urchin]

Post the stage pls.

[slate elbow]

Use it on ur tank if he get instantly decimated put on ur carry

[pale kettle]

sorry forgot it

[past urchin]

Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi
@pale kettle
Id try like this.
Shemira call
Rosa grace
Rowan call
Brutus/Tasi - doesnt matter, just not call.

[clever helm]

Please help me on who should i focus next

[past urchin]

Focus in terms of what?
Can you elaborate a bit.
@clever helm

[clever helm]

Ohhh im sorry, What faction should i focus now? I have been focusing graveborn ever since i started playing and im thinking if i should start using my faction scrolls on other faction now. Would ascended rowan help me?

[past urchin]

Ascended - not really.It can wait, but he needs his SI at +30
That will help you a ton.
Also start thinking about gear for him.
T2 weapon/boots so he can frontline.
If you are pulling his furniture, pls stop.
Its bad.
Thats for Rowan.

As for the faction.
You will need heroes like Tasi and Lyca to get the most out of your Daimon.
Eironn too.
Its Wilders time imo.

[empty crow]

Stuck on 9-12

[past urchin]

I suggest you read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions
Those legendary heroes will hold you back a lot.

[empty crow]

Thanks

[past urchin]

Tree's guide and the latest visual thing.
Then if something is still confusing/unclear come back and ask :)
@empty crow

[empty crow]

So do I reset shemira lucius eluard and nemora? Or do I keep them for later?

Those tier lists have been clowning me

[lone wren]

should be possible

hypo mages are cancer

if u cant root with arden with tour best mage boots and call on him with lyca fast enough u will need to switch to a susrain team

smth like a daimon talene,nara rowan and oden maybe

[empty crow]

I- don't understand

Sorry for being a noob cause I just started

[elder shoal]

Is there any tier list or something like that... Or who should I focus first or things like that. Just start 2mins ago

[past urchin]

Is the free 100 scrolls still on?
@empty crow

[elder shoal]

Or wise ways to use gem/dimond

[empty crow]

What's that? @past urchin

No wait

[past urchin]

There was a free 100 hero scrolls for the game's anniversary.

[empty crow]

It's over

[elder shoal]

Sadge

[empty crow]

I think I should start over

I feel like I have a really bad start here

[past urchin]

Thats what I was about to suggest.
Hence my question about the free scrolls.
If that was still on, I wouldve started over without a blink.
Chapter 7 is what...a few hours of gameplay.
Maybe a day or two if you wanna pace it slow.

[empty crow]

I will start over

The newest server perhaps?

The free scrolls might still be on

[past urchin]

Definitely.
The newer, the better.
Else you will have a really hard time in pvp against estabilished players.

[empty crow]

Thanks a lot

[twilit mango]

Is there anyway to clear this

[empty crow]

Will update how it goes and tell you if the scrolls are still here

@past urchin it's gone

[past urchin]

Just DM me if anything pls.
We are derailing this channel hard 😂
@empty crow
But before you start pulling any heroes, make sure your wishlist is set like the one in visual guide.

[past urchin]

What is that @twilit mango
Some peaks of time I guess?

[clear lark]

anyone know what i can do here? been stuck for a while now

[pale kettle]

Can I ainz this? Or don’t bother trying at all

[pale kettle]

Hello Adventurers! Here you will find a site where you can find clears for any stages that other people have posted. Feel free to use this to either look up clears, or post your own.

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

Maybe here, but it seems rough. Maybe try to ainz it

[clear lark]

alright thanks

[past urchin]

Does your Ferael survive Morvus grenade?
@clear lark

[clear lark]

no

he has just enough time to haunt them

do u think i need brutus

[past urchin]

Probably.

And a +30 Rowan

[clear lark]

ah tried nara and brutus and it worked

[past urchin]

You got it?

[clear lark]

yeah

[past urchin]

Grats

[clear lark]

🥳

[lone wren]

u can in theory ainz everything

this isnt the best comp for it due to all the heals,immunities and dr

i would go a daimon wirh ferqel and tasi sot of como

skreg is annoying and so is hendi

cant burst anyone there

[exotic river]

Guys i need to borrow ainz can someone lend me i'll be quick cry

[pale kettle]

Add me

[exotic river]

Added

[civic hawk]

Help need to beat 5 talene

[pale monolith]

1. Make Daimon your carrier
2. Make Silas your healer then switch to Rowan later
3. Stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+
4. Try:
   Lucius, Thoran - Front row;
   Daimon, Silas, Ferael - Back row;

[rain vigil]

My nervs oO can somebody help me plz?

[humble pecan]

Help

[rain vigil]

What do u need?

[stiff shard]

reset luc, fawkes, eiron, rosa

and use 4 fodder instead

[rain vigil]

Lucretia is really important and useful... And rlly strong

[stiff shard]

yeah, just crystal her

shouldn’t be a main 5

[rain vigil]

What can I do against grezhul and farael? They always kill me.. This sucks a lil bit xD

[humble pecan]

any content

[rain vigil]

Do, what hope said xD

[humble pecan]

wdym 4 fodders?

[humble pecan]

tnx

[fervent parrot]

Help please

[elfin summit]

Which line up for Diamon comp?

[summer cedar]

none imo. brutus lucius lyca rowan daimon.

[agile roost]

Help

[summer cedar]

lucius brutus ainz rowan lyca perhaps

[agile roost]

Isabella shredded me

[worn pilot]

Any idea? Can barely ult Ainz and he is usually last alive

[summer cedar]

try brutus position 1. saveas is a lot of damage and stalling should help a lot.

[worn pilot]

Not so familiar with position #, that frontrow 1?
Or backrow 1

[summer cedar]

front top. if u clear the formation screen the positions are marked on the floor

[worn pilot]

Ah, nvm

Yeah?

Ainz gets his ult off, but it ain't enough damage

Maybe I just need Albedo 3/9 and +30 @summer cedar

[summer cedar]

well I did manage to solve the problem of ainz barely ulting . not enough damage is typically the SI problem, yeah

[worn pilot]

I'm just gonna try this with Eironn/Skreg

@summer cedar I got it lmao. Eironn/Joker did it. I think Brutus and Safiya is an issue for my current Ainz com

[brave oriole]

@worn pilot I liked eye more than call on ainz, crits and haste and pr

If you want a good team, just add lyca or ferael sometimes

Nara when it's safiya mehira

[smoky anvil]

Any suggestions for this stage?

[pale kettle]

@smoky anvil lyca over Rosaline

[lone wigeon]

What's a good lineup?

[pale kettle]

Lycas purpose is the haste in beginning big game changer

[smoky anvil]

oh does mirael benefit from haste?

[pale kettle]

Yes everyone does

[smoky anvil]

then should I give mirael that haste artifact?

[pale kettle]

What artifact do you have on her now?

[smoky anvil]

dura's call, that seemed the best cause of the energy regen

[pale kettle]

Nah keep duras call

[smoky anvil]

Doesn't seem to be helping much, my frontline just gets destroyed with lyca :/

[pale kettle]

Hm post all your heros

[smoky anvil]

These are the ones not shown in the ss above

[pale kettle]

Ah alright what ascnenion is your daimon?

[smoky anvil]

I'm using one from the reinforcements thing, he's L+ but I can't level him nor change gear, my own daimon is E+

[pale kettle]

Fouck

Have you tried replacing rosa for the granpha dude?

[smoky anvil]

who's that?

[pale kettle]

He's got the little wooden staff shoots vines I forget his name he's short

[smoky anvil]

Ohhh Arden? I might try yeah

[pale kettle]

Yeah that man's 😂😂

[lone wigeon]

^

[pale kettle]

Oh shit my bad

[pale kettle]

Do this eiroon grezhul chipmunk Rowan safya

[lone wigeon]

Chipmunk?

[pale kettle]

Her names like aldi or soe.thing

[smoky anvil]

I have no clue what happens, without Rosa they all just die instantly

[pale kettle]

What????

[lone wigeon]

Pippa?

[pale kettle]

Yes that one

[smoky anvil]

With Rosaline my team lasts longer than with lyca or arden, and I don't really know why lol

[pale kettle]

Jesus Rosaline got that carry material
Try doing vegan over hogan

[smoky anvil]

maybe it's the formation bonus? I have no clue. They still die really fast, but last like 1-2 more seconds

[pale kettle]

Hm

Do you not have a Rowan?

[smoky anvil]

I have 1 slot in the crystal, do you think there's anyone that can help? I have 1 rowan at E only

[pale kettle]

Rowan

Doesn't matter potions

[smoky anvil]

For rosa?

[pale kettle]

Try that then trade Rowan for another backline like mereal or daimon

[smoky anvil]

should I put him in the middle?

[pale kettle]

Yes

[dense axle]

Need help

[smoky anvil]

Yeah I don't think I can clear this with my units

thanks for the help @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

@smoky anvil add me take my eiroon and clap it's cheeks

PaPa Fox

That's my username twins are my pfp

[smoky anvil]

I've used my merc this week already but I'll request it when the reset hits

[pale kettle]

Kk

[smoky anvil]

I've sent you a fr, thanks a bunch

[fervent parrot]

Man this sucks

[worn pilot]

How do I deal with this Athalia?

[frail lodge]

ferael/brutus/alna

[worn pilot]

Ferael is already in there, Alna only E, Brutus doesn't work

[frail lodge]

well formation..
ferael
rowan
eironn
skreg
joker

and use dura grace for ferael if lucky he can stall her a bit

[umbral delta]

have you tried putting eiron in the mid back and rowan in the front then put brutus on the top against athalia, eiron should pull everyone ?then you can figure out the rest

[worn pilot]

Tried that.

[worn pilot]

Having best luck with this setup

[frail lodge]

well i have same thought as immatroll
why not placing gywn instead of ferael.. she can trigger AOA from joker too

[worn pilot]

Gwyn shows promise on this stage

[fervent parrot]

Might anyone help me as well?

[frail lodge]

well eironn is not good for early game carry.. better use mirael/saveas

and dont upgrade hero to L if somehow you dont have 4 copy of them
it will make you harder to ascend to A coz L+ need 1 E+

[frail lodge]

yea maybe try
brutus/alna (alna still good even she's at E)
rowan
gwyn
eironn/or anyone maybe
joker

should be better with gwyn carry if u're using joker i think

[worn pilot]

This is from earlier stage.
I'll try, ty

[pale kettle]

i just got lucius, should i upgrade him?

[worn pilot]

Do not invest into him. Falls off hard in the ch20s

[umbral delta]

i think you can get to very high chapter without upgrading to anything to L+ even, i would just wait till 8 copies to and then start upgrading because fodder will always come @fervent parrot
but formation wise, you could try solise frontline1 lucius frontline 2 back1 rowan back2 eironn back3 tidus ? try this

it's tough cuz you very low level with low pool of heroes to choose because of crystal and i don't know which abilities upgrade to what at that lvl

[frail lodge]

well dont know who trigger AOA but eironn need to at least using his ultimate to froze
and yea maybe replace with arthur can works too
just do which one good.. and try alna she's good

[umbral delta]

@worn pilot can you show all the heroes you have ? go to heroes>all

[elder shoal]

Who should I focus first!? I'm newbie start playing hors ago

[umbral delta]

@elder shoal #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

im new from this game so... i dont really have a lot of heroes but who should i invest in this list? i can just use 20 diamonds and get all the items used for upgrade so it isnt a problem for upgrade sources

[worn pilot]

Ainzbedo Dim comp doesn't work on this stage.

[unreal granite]

Saurus is good, Mirael is going to be capped at leg+

[vivid scaffold]

1 carry, 1 tank, 3 supports.

[unreal granite]

Rowan is also one of the best characters in the game so build him up

[pale kettle]

thank youuuuu

[umbral delta]

@pale kettle i don't think you can even invest on anyone or need to, get the fodder to L+ and let them carry you

[pale kettle]

ok lol i asked this because i was struggling on hero's essence (lol stupid)

[glad acorn]

A little help plez

[umbral delta]

there is no struggle at your stage, there's only wait pretty much, you gonna feel this struggle till higher stages where there are specific walls of resources

@worn pilot can you try lyca joker rowan eironn gwyneth

[unreal granite]

It’s not stupid, everyone starts somewhere 🙂

[narrow lark]

I'm seriously stuck I just want the last big chest

[worn pilot]

Tf am I to do here

[pale kettle]

@worn pilot have you tried saurus over joker or does he insta die

[fervent parrot]

I will try that thanks

It sadly doenst work they all get oneshot

[drowsy gazelle]

merc a dps, why would you merc rowan

[worn pilot]

Insta die

[pale kettle]

@worn pilot what about gwyn for joker?

[worn pilot]

Gwen works but not without Joker in my experience

[pale kettle]

Hm

No eiroon?

[swift bloom]

can someone tell me who to use

[pale kettle]

Your credit card

[swift bloom]

damn

[unreal granite]

Any ideas?

[stiff shard]

does dropping hogan and brutus for daimon and grezhul work? and maybe try isabella instead of silvina?

[narrow lark]

It worked until Respen and Talene were the only ones left then they wiped the party

[hardy quartz]

I don’t know what any of those team names mean haha. But I’m sure I can find out by googling them. And I’m 30+ shemira cause I didn’t really even think to look up guides or efficiency until I had been playing for like almost a year already. Same reason I’m 9/9 lucius and nemora. And I don’t have ainz or albedo unfortunately :/

[narrow lark]

@stiff shard I subbed out Rowan for the fairy girl and the lineup breezed through thanks for the help.

[karmic orbit]

arthur ainz albedo cant?

[summer cedar]

ainz r1
daimon r2. use nara position 4

[karmic orbit]

i remember i used that comp, for the whole ch 😂

arthur rowan ferael ainz albedo works wonder also.. i am sure they can beat that team

[maiden marsh]

put joker and fera in your ainz comp and you should roll r1

[fossil compass]

Stuck here. Would like the chap 10 reward. Anything I can do with my current lineup? Also have 2 slots in my crystal to put someone else if they would help

[empty perch]

I want to ask cuz I never knew you could change characters in Tavern which 5 are best endgame?

[maiden marsh]

check the pins in #classic-questions

[empty perch]

@maiden marsh what does it mean Temporarily replace those characters on the bottom of the wishlist?

[maiden marsh]

it means those ones on the bottom work fine at E, and once you have a copy of them to take them off in favor of heroes you need to build

[gentle magnet]

anyone got any idea for this stage ?

[feral hare]

I’m stuck and my stuff got buried, help much appreciated

[hollow shard]

help

[elfin summit]

Should i replace someone for Mortas?

[stiff shard]

not for one of your main 5, no
have to crystal celegeans @elfin summit

and need to replace daimon for a gb or mauler fodder, since you’re level capped

[elfin summit]

Thanks sir

[unreal granite]

No ainz alts but shemira kills him before he can alt again

[unreal granite]

Ok thanks

[dull jetty]

can sommeone with inn add me friend for 5 min, i need to unlock note for song event

my id 127004626

[karmic orbit]

have you tried this? mine was beating 5x power should be easier for you @unreal granite

[unreal granite]

I’ll try it for the first team

[maiden marsh]

joker is a cheaper option than rowan, and should do great with the monofaction team

[karmic orbit]

he is still 31 right? not too much team needed

[unreal granite]

Should I manual the ainz since I have 9F

[karmic orbit]

but yeah just try if it is work 🙂

never manual him 😋 i just keep retrying

[unreal granite]

Really? If I Alr after they loose 50% hp would it be effective?

I’m not sure though I’ll keep trying 🙂

[unreal granite]

Yeah he just take a step into battle and passes away though

[karmic orbit]

yea the team i posted before is one of the optimal comp for ainz imo, but for multi battle above 33, we cant use that comp because rowan would be used for other teams

[maiden marsh]

are you putting him on the bottom?

[unreal granite]

Where albedo would be on jcfans team

[maiden marsh]

then he's getting slapped by shemira, magic damage can't be dodged fyi

[karmic orbit]

albedo can be anywhere, the only goal is to keep arthur facing forward

[maiden marsh]

put joker at the top

[unreal granite]

Omg XD

[maiden marsh]

[unreal granite]

Now I gotta tackle the second one

[stiff shard]

the map is fitting too

[maiden marsh]

and now you have rowan for it

[unreal granite]

I’m assuming daimon comp of some sort is what I gotta do

[karmic orbit]

try to put rowan front line down, and try to use nara to prevent that arden binding you

[unreal granite]

True thank you for that

[karmic orbit]

nicely done 👍

[karmic orbit]

rowan tasi, safiya eiron daimon/lyca

[unreal granite]

My Eironn is terrible

[balmy hinge]

Is it going to be impossible for me to defeat them without grinding exp or is there a way?

[karmic orbit]

its only legendary team.., you should be able to beat them

[unreal granite]

You’d be surprised 😭 lmao

[pale kettle]

Any1 suggestions

[stiff shard]

reset tasi, solise, izold @balmy hinge

[pale kettle]

Just level up you’re heroes, and make sure you carry is 20-40 levels higher then ur normal team

[karmic orbit]

comb of daimon, tasi, and silas also do the trick.. and maybe put brutus also, make sure silas to ult on daimon if can

[balmy hinge]

Okay thanks

[dull jetty]

can someone add me for 5 min i need to visit friends oak inn to unlock the musical note

[stiff shard]

any ideas? none of the 5 die before daimon’s 4 teammates die, so he just gets ganged up on

[unreal granite]

What I’m trying, could swap Nara and Silas?

[karmic orbit]

5 pull thoran cheese? you have skriat 3?

[karmic orbit]

depends, the bats hurt you a lot or not?

[pale kettle]

Nope I haven’t sadly the only one I’m missing for my Thoran cheese

[unreal granite]

Oh definitely I got verdan to like 5% hp and it was him and daimon and I lost 😂

[karmic orbit]

@pale kettle try this?

since you have thoran fully built

[karmic orbit]

then nara necessary 😂

[empty perch]

What should I start with?

[maiden marsh]

nara is interrupting bats, right?

[unreal granite]

Not really he still does it cuz she dies fairly quickly against the mehira

[karmic orbit]

how if you move rowan top front and hopefully stun ferael?

[empty perch]

Anyone know what 5 man team for the things i have rn

[maiden marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/830862995664011274/image0.gif

[pale kettle]

Team to low atm, only starting to try cheese lately so haven’t been able to build some heroes

[unreal granite]

Oh I see

[karmic orbit]

its literally all e+ heroes

[pale kettle]

Yeah ik but I need 6m power

[karmic orbit]

i see.. how about safiya? do you have her?

[balmy hinge]

What exactly does that mean?

[karmic orbit]

he means bellow 100 just lv up wukong, and please go to pinned guide you will find a lot of good info there for beginners

[balmy hinge]

Okay

[stiff shard]

top 2 pins in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

Read the pinned message in questions section. Basically you want you’re ‘carry’ main damage, well what jc says😂

[stiff shard]

any ideas, yall? is it normal to struggle around 50% combat rating?

[pale kettle]

This is her... don’t know if it suffices

[unreal granite]

Thanks for the help @karmic orbit @maiden marsh

[karmic orbit]

hmm just try her..(she serve only for the buff at your cond) or you can add ferael to buy time for daimon, did the eiron manage to pull? you have call on him right?

[karmic orbit]

rowan stun ferael huh? 😋

[unreal granite]

Yeah and Silas injected daimon, got the right rng

[karmic orbit]

👍

[karmic orbit]

rowan top front and make daimon tank, behind put arden and tasi and lyca

[pale kettle]

Yes I’m running calll, and eironn manage to pull and daimon ult but most of the times every1 except Lyca gets an ult off they got onetapped all of them.

[empty perch]

Anyone know what my 5 characters I should use on my team rn

[pale kettle]

Read pinned messages in #classic-questions

[unreal granite]

Thoran daimon tasi Farael and one more

[karmic orbit]

hmm its common to retry a lot of time because you are pushing hard.. at 102 lv gap right?, just try to add ferael maybe?

if only you can utilize thoran cheese your life would be much easier 😂

[pale kettle]

Yeah ima keep trying, 30-30 took me like 300-400 tries

[balmy hinge]

Lets just say my team was stronger than them what should be my formation?

[lone wren]

try wu skreg raku Rowan and oden

can sup out raku for eluard if he got his immunity unlocked

his 3rd ability that is

[stiff shard]

like this right? no noticeable improvement so far, backline just get aoed

[pale kettle]

Isn’t a daimon sylas comp with oden god for him like 100+?

[karmic orbit]

i can't remember but i push with daimon i think like 120 lv gap at ch 30

but i have ferael fully 30 at that time

[pale kettle]

I mean for @balmy hinge 😂

[karmic orbit]

oh 😂 😂

[lone wren]

estrilda at this deficit may interrupt arden and so does angelo's random bs flying notee

get arden in slot 5 and hope for good rng to root mirael and angelo

[stiff shard]

yeah i moved him down there, since i noticed 5 is the only backline not always instantly dying

[karmic orbit]

that is good decision 👍

[lone wren]

mirael also shoots her fire balls randomly so a daimon can eat 3 of it shielded no problem or she would just 1 tap each hero with it and u die

ite rng

[karmic orbit]

just make arden to bind before die

[stiff shard]

time to macro now ig

[karmic orbit]

thats the best combination we can make based on what you have broo so the rest is rng 👀

[stiff shard]

yes yes, i appreciate it all so much!! tyty

[balmy hinge]

Thanks daimon op👀

[west hornet]

rickety cart all of that...raise a wukong carry theres pins on how to but just use
1 wukong (carry)
2 hogan
3 tasi
4 idk tbh
5 arden

[visual skiff]

Change rosaline i guess, she is kinda useless

[lone wren]

angelo sucks since he can stun you of openers early but will work with rng if he targets mostly his allies

ferael needs ro be put in check since he's rhe only one that can stop daimon from rolling in this team

see where estrilda goes and try to redirect her away from the ferael side where u should use a nara to stop him

so try rowan brutus nara ferawl/tasi and daimon

shift rowan and brutus if estrilda rushes rowan in position 1

she should go for brutus bur judt in case

[lofty cairn]

@lone wren nice it worked

[lone wren]

[dense axle]

Any suggestions?

[lone wren]

your shem isnt high enough lvl to carey hars bur can work

raku got no cc supports so he wont do much

also stop doing Too many L heroes that u can't ascend

below 160 legendary tier heroes like mirael will cwrey u better

[lone wren]

for rn try lucius brutus raku rowan and daimon

[dense axle]

Ok I will try that thx

[low wadi]

someone can help me to make a team??

[lone wren]

read pins in here

[karmic orbit]

focus on your mirael as carry then try to get more rosa and rowan, dont make L heroes, please read pinned guide you will have better understanding

[gentle magnet]

4th team, cant clear and i tried switching around, dunno what to do

[pale kettle]

I need help with this story mode 11-35

[gentle magnet]

have you tried placing joker in the back, switch with lucius ? is any of them dying instantly ? where is saurus going for ? estrilda or mauler ? Oden might be clutch to place in the back

[pale kettle]

There’s artifacts on joker belinda and lucius

Saurus dies instantly and tasi

They go for golus

[gentle magnet]

tried oden in saurus place ?

[pale kettle]

No let me try that now

I beat it oden came in clutch

[gentle magnet]

noice, congrats ~ keep it in mind, oden is pretty based in some stages ~

[pale kettle]

Yea I just used him in the next level he dealt some damage but lucius was kept alive but wasn’t strong enough to kill them

Ok I beat it switched oden for saurus

[ionic lava]

How do I get the sig

[gentle magnet]

@ionic lava purple emblems

[foggy cobalt]

What should i do with this

[tepid salmon]

Idk who I should use for a line up ??

[foggy cobalt]

Ogi, hogan, mirel and saftia and slivina

[hallow stag]

@foggy cobalt what is giving you issues there? One thing is you have no formation faction bonus... can you post your whole roster?

[foggy cobalt]

Yea

Only some have gear though

[hallow stag]

Just swap gear around on characters when you need them for a stage

[stiff shard]

your carries should also be 180, not your tanks

[foggy cobalt]

I have no high caster gear

[hallow stag]

Why do you have a Mythic tree and another tree in your crystal? You def don’t need both, and you’ve wasted copies of your Ulmus now by taking him to Legendary as well as mythic. You could have taken him to Ascended with those copies

[foggy cobalt]

What?

[stiff shard]

omg

[foggy cobalt]

He isnt mythic plus

And i have no other leg+ wilder heros

[stiff shard]

2 upgraded ulmus

[hallow stag]

Daimon

Grez
Silvina
Lucius
Mirael

[foggy cobalt]

And you can get ulmus from challenger store

[stiff shard]

which is a waste too

[foggy cobalt]

I cant tell you how many times he has carried me

[hallow stag]

What I mean is you spent 4 copies of Ulmus to get him to Legendary when you have a Mythic one, who only needs those 4 copies to get to Ascended, plus a L+ fodder hero. Now that L Ulmus is only good for food, which is a waste

[stiff shard]

mhm, could have had an A tier ulmus by now

[hallow stag]

That’s 600,000 challenger coins worth of wasted Ulmus

[main orbit]

Any hero reccomendations, my team is The top row except i use daimon instead of tasi

[stiff shard]

yeah, reset daimon for tasi/hogan, so you aren't level capped

[main orbit]

ok

[stiff shard]

and stop taking heroes to L if you can't L+ them

[main orbit]

I thought making my team legendary would be a good idea bc I use them

[stiff shard]

E+ is fine

[main orbit]

true but whats the problem with taking my heroes to L

[stiff shard]

if you don't get 2 more copies of belinda and thane and grezhul, those 3 are stuck at 140 until you pull more

dragging behind everyone that's ahead of them

[main orbit]

oh

wouldnt elite + heroes just get stuck at a lower level than 140 tho

[stiff shard]

at 120, yeah

that's why you take 5 fodders to L+, so they cap at 160

[main orbit]

then theyd also keep rest of the team from lvling more

[main orbit]

im confused, if heroes are elite + then stop people from lvling more than 120, if heroes are Legendary then theyd stop people from lving to more than 140

[stiff shard]

that's why you take fodder to L+
it's not hard to ascend fodder

[main orbit]

oh and then lvl them up

[stiff shard]

your ankhira's already L+, you just need 4 others

[main orbit]

ok

[stiff shard]

and you need to reset izold, thoran, nemora, theowyn

and daimon

[main orbit]

I already cant get all my team to lvl 140 idk if I can afford to get 5 heroes I dont even want to use to L and lvl 140, Ill keep ur tips in mind tho

also a lot of people are saying daimon is good late game, is that true

[stiff shard]

you need L+ fodder anyways for M and M+ lol

[main orbit]

yeah fair I used all my fodder for my main team, ill try to use my fodder on my other fodder now

[stiff shard]

unless you can get belinda thane grez to L+, hopefully

[main orbit]

yeah I got another belinda just need another one to make belinda L +

same with grez

im a bit hesitant to reset Daimon since a lot of people say hes good late game ingame and now in the discord too

thx fro the advice ill see ya later

[stiff shard]

you have to lol, he’s capping your team
just put him on the crystal..

[main orbit]

oh I thought you meant reset daimon and replace her with tasi

[stiff shard]

tasi or hogan, yes

[main orbit]

oh I thought you meant use Daimon but just keep him in resonating crystal because tasi is a higher tier by this message, sorry

[stiff shard]

that’s exactly what i’m saying lol

sorry if that wasn’t clear

[main orbit]

I said this and then you said yes I so I thought you actually meant the defintion of "yes" and meant this was the correct thing that you meant, sry

[lethal solar]

Why can't I redeem the codes

[pale kettle]

This team is bigtime kicking my ass

[pale kettle]

This isnt the place to ask this

[dapper egret]

The campaign got hard af real fast, need help

[hallow stag]

Great mid game, solid late game from what I understand. He scales very, very well because his abilities are %-age based on the enemy stats.

[main orbit]

ok

[hallow stag]

@pale kettle sorry, didn’t grab that exact stage, but here’s my next one for comparison. Likely the same team I used

Sorry, wrong grab

[hallow stag]

Yeah. Looking at 20-42, I used the same exact team and line-up as my 20-43.

Just rng whether you win that stage, but ferael’s and Rowan’s cc helped, iirc

Oh, and Thoran’s stun on his resurrection

[feral hare]

Stuck on 15-40 and I want to get to stargazing, can anyone help me?

[hallow stag]

Here was how I did 15-36, and I’m pretty sure it was the same-ish comp as what I did 15-40 with:

Though I don’t have Ezio and don’t know how he plays. The main issue for me in those stages was the Isabella, so I’m pretty sure I would have hooked her w/ Nara to stall her

[pale kettle]

Still mega stuck here, any help?

[strong badge]

#classic-questions you can find the link in #classic-updates

[pale kettle]

call tasi or legendary weapon/eye fera?
fera (eye)

lyca (shroud)
nara (eye)
rowan (chalice)
daimon (call)

[trail pagoda]

I followed all your recommendations and got fodder to L+. Now I’ve maxed them out and need to figure out what to do next. Do I select 1 of each faction or do I focus on one faction?

[strong badge]

#classic-questions

[trail pagoda]

What is lineup only for questions about a specific battle?

[strong badge]

Could you show me the stage

[trail pagoda]

Well it’s more a question about who I should bring up as the primary 5 to level now that I can’t level the fodder any further

[hallow stag]

I think so. I can answer with what I’m doing in #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

if running fera, rowan gets call. if running tasi, keep as is. honestly idk which works better play around

[strong badge]

Right now I'm hard stuck on this stage and this formation has been the best out of all the other formations there's not a lot of survivability on my team except for daimon

I'm trying out random artifacts

[summer cedar]

When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool

[strong badge]

I'm well aware of the multiple legendaries)

[summer cedar]

brutus saurus lyca rowan daimon might work. saurus isn't really a tank but he might be serviceable here by virtue of lvls and asc

[strong badge]

Can I use call on daimon since silas isn't here

[pale kettle]

you can run up to 3 calls in a team without too much penalty
and call is generally highest prio on daimon i find

[strong badge]

I swapped lyca and saurus and it worked

[fervent parrot]

Ok i somehow managed to win with lvl 1 twins in the front but without a normal team...

[humble pecan]

Who to pick?

[visual kindle]

flora

[snow osprey]

Hi I’m very new. Who should I be using at the moment for campaign and general leveling up! Thanks

[rustic nacelle]

flora unless you’re building the other 2

[dense axle]

Any tip and suggestion for campaign on chp 10-21 stuck on it

[rustic nacelle]

you’re making too many legendaries only make them legendary if you can go straight to L+

[stiff shard]

also need to reset talene and peggy, and replace with viru and mirael after getting both to L and L+

use auto ascend (never smart ascend) and clear up space

[safe ridge]

Need help

[unreal plover]

Please help. I need to beat this before event ends.

[safe ridge]

@unreal plover get a merc to help

[rustic nacelle]

lucius for athena or whatever her name is and gwenyth for estrilda/belinda

[worn pilot]

Imma cry lol so frustrating.
Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

i just got thane, should i farm him?

[marsh nymph]

thane honestly isn't usually a good option at all to build.

[pale kettle]

ohh thank you!

[foggy grove]

Can someone help with this one? Can’t seem to get it working. I tried Nara hooking mehira but she dies right after

[lime lodge]

I've been stuck for 2 days is this the limit of my current roster?

[pale kettle]

what will be my best line up? struggling in 8-36

[umbral delta]

wtf, was i just pinged ?

[naive knot]

I’m getting absolutely slapped here. Is it just a matter of levels or should I be changing it up

[stark valley]

Your downfall is no carry, without a carry you can't win because you will die before doing enough damage, consider using arden, tasi, and adding eirron to the crystal in place of brutus, run Rosa, tasi, eirron, rowan and arden as a team

[naive knot]

Thank you very much 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[naive kindle]

What team can i use for story?

[balmy hinge]

I can beat every other character but vampire guy is always the one draining and I've tried every thing out

Never mind i was lucky this time and won

Do i just need to level them up or can i win if a change the formation a bit?

[stark valley]

Focus oden water, he will do you well, but for the most part you should be working on ascending heros and collecting fodder, there's only so much e and e+ heros can do

[pale kettle]

Im close to finishing this chapter but grezhul is significantly lowering my Shemira’s Damage output. What team should i use and which duras equipments to who?

[balmy hinge]

oden water? Oh you were saying my name

[untold river]

Im having som difficult with this boss. Iv been stuck for days. Any advice?

[naive kindle]

Team for story?

[blissful mist]

Rowan Hogan Lucius mirael and Arden

[pale kettle]

What team to use, what duras artifact to put on who

[blissful mist]

Don't put shemira in front of Isabella

[pale monolith]

Shemira

Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Ferael

[pale kettle]

thanks i just completed it

[pale monolith]

Stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+
Lucius, Hogan - Front row;
Mirael, Rowan, Arden - Back row;

[pale kettle]

Finally 💪🏼

[naive kindle]

they are L+ right?

[blissful mist]

@naive kindle why do you have shemira and eironn m but not lvl or in cristal ?

[naive kindle]

also, i am using hogan, lucius, lyca, rowan and eironn and it seems pretty decent

[naive kindle]

i made eironn 180 alrdy and shemira 160 alrdy too. they are both in crystal alrdy

[pale kettle]

Well you have a solid team there then.

[naive kindle]

i replaced ardenn and the girl from the graveborn faction for shemira and eironn haha

[pale monolith]

Well I'd go with Eironn as a carrier since Shemira falls off. Didn't notice you had them. Also Eironn is always used with Safyia

[naive kindle]

do i have safya?

[blissful mist]

Alright well I didn't see it so I think now ur team should be smth like Lucius Rowan front and lyca/tasi eironn and Arden back

[pale monolith]

^^

[snow osprey]

Anyone able to help me with a general lineup?

[naive kindle]

ait then ty. also should i level eironn signature item?

[pale monolith]

Yes

[naive kindle]

till what level? i just saw he isnt a priority compared to rowann

[stark jackal]

Guys its my team good enought for newbie, ilustrasi play game a hours a go

And how to get orange, and red equipment?

[pale monolith]

Go with Daimon as a carrier
Rowan might not seem as good but later he is amazing so vuild him
I'd go with:
Lucius, Hogan - Front row;
Daimon, Rowan, Lyca - Back row;

[blissful mist]

@snow osprey u can read pin in #classic-questions to see guide for beginner

[blissful mist]

Up to +10 or 20 but ur Rowan is far from m anyway

[pale monolith]

If you want the orange equipment then llay the gams for more than a few hours
Read the pins in #questions

[naive kindle]

yeh indeed hahah. is that team able to clear pot and the events rn?

[pale monolith]

+30 Rowan is amazing

[blissful mist]

It should but u will most likely lack heal for pot since u only have Rowan

[naive kindle]

mmmm i see. rowan and lucius are my only healers atm right?

[blissful mist]

Oh wait I forgot Lucius so yea u should be good

[naive kindle]

oh nice haha

[blissful mist]

Tho Silas is the best healer for early game

[spare rune]

good or na

[naive kindle]

is there any way to get emblems?

[blissful mist]

Never put ur carry in front of Isabella

[pale monolith]

Na

[spare rune]

ye ik i just put the formation wrong

[blissful mist]

For now u can get them by summoning in tavern I think and in events

[spare rune]

suggestions?

[blissful mist]

Remove izold for another support or cc hero

[spare rune]

wich other hero

[pale monolith]

I've already gived you a line-up before

[stark jackal]

What should i choose?

[blissful mist]

Someone like Nara or tasi for cc or eironn if I look at ur heroes

[stark jackal]

I only have 1

[pale monolith]

Graveborn always

[spare rune]

agreed

do i spend 2700 gems on 10 pulls?

[pale monolith]

But not Oden and putting Daimon and Rowan front row

[stark jackal]

Its good?

[pale monolith]

That's the main use of gems

[spare rune]

yes

[pale monolith]

Yes, best healer early game

[blissful mist]

Silas is the best early game healer

[spare rune]

silas is goat

[stark jackal]

Can someone help me, who is skriath?

[spare rune]

chicken man

[pale monolith]

Yes

[stark jackal]

In what faction he is?

[pale monolith]

He's a Mauler, he's good after Ascended tier

[stark jackal]

Guys, what should i pick in here?

[blissful mist]

Hero xp or dust chest imo
But not sure at all

[spare rune]

i usually go for scrolls

[stark jackal]

And solise and satrana, who is better?

[pale monolith]

Worst choice

[blissful mist]

None

[blissful mist]

They both require a lot of investment to be good

[pale monolith]

They both suck

[stark jackal]

Im still newbie, just thats for mage aoe i have

[pale monolith]

Satrana might be good for Mauler tower but Solise is useless when Ainz is a thing

[stark jackal]

Its Belinda good mage

[ruby drift]

Read the guide pls

[blissful mist]

Not that good except for lb tower

[stark jackal]

Then, for arena and story, who is better third of them?

[pale monolith]

And Gwyneth is still better after floor 200

[stark jackal]

Its my line up good for now?

[pale monolith]

No

[stark jackal]

Bo?

[pale monolith]

No

[untold river]

Any advice on how to pass this level.

[pale monolith]

This is the 5th time someone tells you to read the pins in #classic-questions
Also use Silas (He's not mentioned there because the guides are older)

[pale monolith]

All your heros?

[blissful mist]

U need to control Isabella she is the biggest threat

[pale monolith]

And not rin 2 carriers and not use Peggy and creepy lady front row, creepy lady not at all

[untold river]

Sorry bad connection

[clear lark]

anyone know what i can do here?

[untold river]

But here's all my heros I'm a bit confused on the advice

[stuck beacon]

Good line up with Ainz as carry? At ch23

[pale monolith]

1. I'd make Daimon my carrier since he is way better than Shemira
2. Stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+
3. Untill you build Daimon, I'd use:
   Lucius, Thoran - Front row;
   Shemira, Numisu, Peggy - Back row;

[pale monolith]

You got 3/9 on Albedo?

[stuck beacon]

No not yet

Dont have any mythic furniture rn

[untold river]

Who is daimon?

[pale monolith]

For now use:
Thoran, Brutus - Front row;
Ainz, Rowan, Lyca - Back row;
Use Albedo when you get 3/9

[tulip cloud]

any idea?

[pale monolith]

This guy with the scary doll following him

[stuck beacon]

Should I ascend lyca to mythic?

[untold river]

Oh ok but he's too weak to help me rn, I can't pass this level at all.

[digital wraith]

Should I get My ferael to L+ or Lucius to L+?

[pale monolith]

Nah

[stuck beacon]

E+ is rly enough?

[untold river]

I miss read what you send above sorry XD I'm just a tab frustrated with this level

[pale monolith]

You only need her for energy and haste

She gives that at the begging of the battle

[stuck beacon]

Ok, got it

[pale monolith]

Ferael > Lucius
Get a proper tank, Estrilda is nkt that good
Stop running 2 carriers in 1 team
Use Daimon as a carrier

[stuck beacon]

Which faction should I focus on? I want to do LB for a little more coz I have a few heroes at 6/7, maybe Gwyneth comp later on?

[pale monolith]

No

[digital wraith]

Alright

[pale monolith]

LB is the second worst option, go with GB

[stark valley]

Lb is the weakest faction in the game gb is the strongest

[cold cosmos]

Literally near impossible without 9/9 skreg or overlevelling

[tulip cloud]

what i can do?

[vivid scaffold]

Any tips for this level? Brutus in front of Athalia seems to help, but I get destroyed quite fast. Daimon can barely ult once

[sweet vessel]

I am hard stuck

[meager storm]

I stuck ,help

[balmy hinge]

I have tried everything, I have leveled up and enhanced the items but i can't win

[plain venture]

With this formation only shemira and Arden are left but they kill ain’t any tips nvm I beat it

[wintry sierra]

Help please

[brave oriole]

@wintry sierra mhmhm
Doesn't look hard to pass. Try
Tasi
Rowan
Eironn
Saurus
Lyca

[wintry sierra]

Ok let me try

[brave oriole]

But let me know if tasi cannot survive on silvina

[wintry sierra]

Oh it worked thank u sm :D

[brave oriole]

@plain venture reset Rosa to 180 and push daimon

Np@wintry sierra

@balmy hinge I dunno man, I see that daimon is e+, reset wukong oden lvls, lvl them back to lvl 80 only, the rest of exp use on daimon

@meager storm use that rosaline, put her front of shemira, use nara to pull mirael, and keep Silas i guess, Frontline down. So no thoran if you add Rosa

@sweet vessel fawkes is great to use, vs ferael shem etc. But all in all, I would reset grez to 180,and push shem to 220,she may be work better than ainz, try
Lucius dura's call
Rosaline
Rowan
Shem
Fawkes

[sweet vessel]

ok will try tysm

[brave oriole]

@tulip cloud I've used Belinda I remember, but try
Safiya
Grez
Rowan
Rosa
Shem

[haughty plover]

@brave oriole could you help me too pls ?

[brave oriole]

@cold cosmos try
Safiya
Skreg with dura's call
Numitsu
Tidus
Khasos
If anything swap Khasos safiya or so, anyway, skreg with call would make it better

@haughty plover talene dies too fast and then shem or Isa get full energy insta. I would use Brutus top at all instead of talene.
Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius dura's call
Belinda or ainz with eye

Belinda should nuke em insta tbh, since Lucius will cc ferael

@vivid scaffold ferael should tank easy this athalia with grace maybe. So no Brutus, maybe tasi or lyca back of arthur

[meager storm]

@brave oriole thank you ❤️

[brave oriole]

@clear lark you can use merc at all, I would get a strong rosaline or Lucius. If I remember right, I've used fawkes where Lucius is, he would remove top nara and free hit then. Try a lucius or fawkes merc

[agile roost]

Help pls

[brave oriole]

@agile roost try
Lyca
Saurus
Rowan
Izold or Brutus
Nara

[agile roost]

Don't have a Rowan

And kaz just can't get hit

[fervent parrot]

Could you help me too?

[agile roost]

Used mirael and won thanks