#lineup-help
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Well i respect him a lot even in wilder tower he have a lot of shields plus cc and damage from his ult buy enough time for his team
He's very good +20 and 3/3
I use him a lot too but not in pve
Ok ty
Just ppls don't waste stones on gorvo gear
I did and I'm not sorry for having t2 on gorvo š¤
Mine stil with 1/3 and 10+ cuz i had to put everything on eiron
Still working on him
Sometimes thwres an issue with gorvo shoes, too much mspd makes him jump too far
I know that sometimes ppls are using a lower tier shoes just to make it jump right
Hi somebody can help me for the starting team?
Wukong is so good till lvl 100
U can just add wukong instead of seveas
And later on it will depend on your pulls j can asj more in #classic-questions
@brave oriole got it, tasi mid worked after 20 tries
@pale kettle I'm glad š
What should my team be
This one hurt
Help pls
rowan instead of pippa
@warped moat eironn instead of pippaš¢
Already got it
Just beat 21, that's how ascended daimon
help please
@hollow shard mhm, the old gb setup. Try
Lucius dura's call
Lyca
Rowan
Shem grace
Rosaline eye
like this?
normally when i try it like this their shem just melts lucius
@hollow shard lyca front of Lucius
Itās not campaign but itās for an event and itās for a lineup-
I canāt get past this, my units donāt die but they canāt kill them fast enough.
@hollow shard Lucius seems slow on casting shield, do you have dura's call on?
And shoes?
@red juniper get some dps merc, daimon maybe rlly hard with talene
Mhm, yeah you need mythic boots for Lucius, lots of mspd. Did you pushed towers? There's some gear reward
kings tower?
Anyway, test if Rosa survives front of Lucius there. And I mean, faction towers
is there a lineup with my existing heroes I can use so I don't waste my mercs?
shemira was doing a lot but not enough
You need a better carry than shemira, might have to work on eironn or daimon
@red juniper what do you mean waste? Won't count their use in campaign, it's free to use in events etc. Maybe even ainz +30 would be good
hmmmm alright, i can also wait for friend short term heros to help
To be fair you have done some mistake, mainly the L heroes, have you read the pins on the question channel?
@hollow shard have you tried if rosaline can reach shem, if front of Lucius?
Well you need an other carry, shemira is just bad to be honest, so might as well start now
yeah i have, but they all die so quickly and barely do any damage
yeah ive heard shes bad endgame
@hollow shard that's fine. If she does, than put back of shemira fawkes, and remove lyca
Shemira is fine until chap 26+
Well she's a waste of investment, so might as well just work on something else
To good comp you can work on
She a already, so he can just use until then
For sure, and she's a good link for ainz!
Even the gear is okay t1 t2, there come oden and Silas
Just no t3!!
There's long way until t3, chap 30,may be t4, until then š¤
But i guess that ppls can have earlier t3, with misty valley t2 reward and mini ae
Before of chap 26 sure thing
Just 2, but it makes a diff for a carry
It's crazy I got two mage t3 stone from afk rewards didn't think they would drop that easy
Stuck in 14-38, any suggestions?
@leaden turtle my alt dropped my main didn't š¢
@boreal crown complicated hero list, you can use nara vs arden, but i dunno about the rest
Look at the pins on question channel by the way, those L heroes are gonna hurt you
Thoran-lyca
Nara-belinda-rosa
Honnestly it's weird box
@brave oriole i finally beat it, i used fawkes mercenary like you told me to, thank you so much for the help man it was so frustrating
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Help
I have 2 spots on my resonating crystal and iām struggling in campaign rn, any suggestions on lineups and who to put on the crystal?
Can not seem to get past this
Canāt actually get any damage on them or the shields. Donāt know where they are all getting healed so fast
You guys have any peggy line ups i have a mythic+ peggys i dontnknow what to do with
How is this setup?
The first thing I recommend doing is to level up more heroes.
Iād prioritize the Legendary Mirael
Please help
Do u guys think i can pass this stage?
Merc available
Itās a long shot but should I try a 3/9 merc instead of a 9/9? I have tried this 7 different ways and so many times. Thatās the only significant difference I ever see
Try the lineup I listed having lyca dodge tank athalia
merc ainz
brutus lucius arden mirael rowan
Somebody help please!!!
Iām starting to actually regret investing into daimon before Nara
why?
So I just got the game yesterday and so far and Iād just like some pointers on who to focus on right now.
Can Anyone Tell Whick Heroes can Build the Best Lineup
just got to chapter 25. Who should I try to ascend and maybe use the swap scroll ?
I'm stuck
Wtf is that
Should pass?
website with a bunch of clears
Could anyone help me with my lineup?
None worked
Please someone help
most of those builds use brutus/thoran/alna to tank athalia (I personally use brutus most of the time)
if belinda is screwing with you, maybe use nara against her?
I now have two E+ Belinda's, should I change plans from taking Mirael to L+ and feed her to Belinda instead
Here's the rest of my box. Not sure which wilder or mauler hero to focus on for the fodder. Will build Shemirah slowly for graveborn
Belinda is a pretty decent carrier early-game. You can go with Belinda till around Ch16 then garrison Ainz and link him to Bemjnda or you could go with Mirael and then make Daimon your carrier
Fwra
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Beli da
@pale monolith thanks, I fed her my miraels, will level her as my carry but I have to push some other bad units in my crystal too...
Wdym by bad units
Maybe try Ferael instead of Rowan?
Dont have far on this acc
Was thinking that maybe he could orevent Shemira from ulting
I guess I mean units that I can ascend further to level further even if I don't think they will go on my team's. Basically other dimension 3*
Won't have enough fodder to keep leveling or ascending these lightbearers
Any idea how to beat this stage?
Try to switch the positions
5 thane
what do u mean
i been runnning
either
ainz
daimon
rowan
thoran
sylas
Or mirror this so so ainz daimon on bottom half and thorna sylas top isde
Aniz as solo and not fully upgraded is nothin
Can't all almost killed instantly
Try fereal or some cc
How can I pass this stage? I have 2M exp and 2K dust in addition to these levelled heroes
any tips i really wanna get past here
why do u use 3 carries?
Been stuck here for about 2 days, help?
nice
Any help? None of them is a real threat carrying the dmg but all of them together are super annoying
How to kill 2 backline enemy heroes first?
With a strong Gwyneth merc
@sullen bone shemira should be able to tank Brutus, and replace ferael also with fawkes or tasi. So like
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Shem
Tasi/fawkes
@drowsy locust you can get lucky with a few of ainzsā ults, or a gwenyth
Gwyn
Not working :(
I also just upgraded Rowan to si30 with the chests from hf but it's not helping enough shem last approximately the same time as Alna would and don't have time to silence
@sullen bone try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Daimon
Rowan
Can someone help me with third team comp? Canāt seem to get it working
@foggy grove hard to see the available heroes š¢ is ainz available still?
I would try
Raku
Arthur
Ainz
Joker or else
Ezio
Just find something who's doing well vs Thane
Even talene can be I guess
Nah ainz isnāt available. The one I garrisoned dies before ult
Thx a lot! I have no idea why on 2nd ult Daimon 100-0 or 80-0 3 enemies without any buff/debuff but welp!
@foggy grove you have a lot of heroes available, just find the perfect team. Make a team with talene Saurus twins ezio and ferael
suggestions? the ones in red is for r2
@marsh nymph rowan should be front of daimon at all, no tasi. Can lyca tank athalia?
yea with the right rng she dodge tanks athalia for a good while
Gotcha, thanks
Okay. Try
Brutus
Lyca
Daimon
Rowan
Nara or ezio etc
@renzu#3018
alright, thanks, I'll give that a shot
Any suggestions?
How am I supposed to win this
Help pls been stuck on this for over a week
@fluid bridge with a better merc, like Saurus +30, oden can help so and so, with boss energy, Cecilia too. All in all share your hero box, and find a Saurus maybe
@agile roost why don't you lvl Saurus? If reset lyca back to 140,maybe enough dust. As about dust you should buy everyday with gold from shop, and to refresh twice the shop for more dust
Try something like
Lyca
Saurus
Nara
Brutus
Mehira for 30%saurus def mostly
Yeah I sorta just went for it and used rosa with 4 dps to spam their ults.
Can you guys help me? I really can't progress rn and I always have problems against Isabella that dumb *****
it usually depends on who's causing you the most trouble,its not always down to the onr that does most dmg
i would suggest trying
lucius,brutus,tasi,nara and daimon
u can sup out lucuius for frontline daimon and slot someone like rowan if daimon can survive frontline well
In which position each?
goes from 1 to 5 so lucius in 1,brutus in 2 etc
@fervent parrot Isabella usually hits the front top hero, so Brutus should be there. Also your hero box, looks amazing bad, I mean there's LOTS of l heroes, waste of fodders and will slow down you by a lot with chapters progression.
First, stop making legendary heroes, just save em elite + until enough fodders. Your 4 mythics, bedside Lucius, the others 3 are extremely bad, you have no carry at all
For every 2 legendary heroes, you have lost one fodder legendary +
Anyone with good team to use for forest escapade (without silas)?
The fodders, which you should try to make em all l+, to ascend your heroes
@vocal orchid don't think so, that's the meta. You use already merc?
I didn't use that much fodder honestly. I can't change my heros now sadly. But any recommendations for the stage?
I taken skriath as merc :'(
@fervent parrot you did, for every legendary hero, you have used 2x e+
@vocal orchid it's +30 at least?
Yeah
But I only used fodder to upgrade to mythic
@fervent parrot that's a total of 26 e+elite waste right now, only for the legendary that you have. The mythic ones are all bad, they shouldn't be mythic at all
@vocal orchid try a lorsan maybe, or even your weak Silas I dunno. Belinda can boost your attack too and so on rosaline of she follows your dps
Thank you for all that but, no offense, that just doesn't help
@fervent parrot it does, from now on
Sila without furniture 9/9 .. does not help much. š¤£
It does
Although I have him with si+30 š„ŗ
You cant get close to top dmg anyway, even I, with a 9/9 Silas cant get more than 15milš¢
I started playing afk arena 2yrs ago and then stopped, and began with this event so it might be that my comp is shit, but I just came here for a stage where I'm struggling
@fervent parrot sure
Try out then
Daimon
Brutus
Nemora to charm ferael, restart if didn't
Lucius
Baden
I tried lorsan, seems Not bad. Added quite a lot of dmg there
Tried that out but the energy steal from Isabella destroys everything. Without lucius ult I get oneshitted and even if my team gets one shot
4b difference 
@fervent parrot with ferael charmed?
How can I tell? He turned around and his defenses sunk
Well, it write charmed in top of him when she does
The only one I manage to kill is grezhul the rest remains pretty much untouched
And then he use the ghosts vs his team
I dunno @fervent parrot, your team is very bad. The only advice I can give you, may be a bit unorthodox, but, fodder shem to daimon, and then reset something back to 160,and lvl daimon instead, and you got a carry so and so. Up to you
I thought about that too
Daimon requires a si+20 and gear, at least shoes and weapon m enchanted
But he will dps at all, bcs now, nothing dps
Hmm I don't have much m gear
This its what ppls are using guild coins on, after chapter 12.gear for carry
Find an active guild, for more guild coins
Don't you have that chest with 2 gears at choice? From the event? Not sure when you get it
Until chap 23 anyway, but not sure when
Chest from complete 8 chapter and later.
And unlock rewards every even chapter complete.
I got it down to shemira and Isabella at the end
@fervent parrot he's a Backline at all, and he use dura's call
Agg fuk
It's way closer now but in a tines pan of like 2 secs everyone gets onetapped
I can't upgrade his artefact sadly
And my team had no problems until all these Isabella stages
You still have nemora middle? @fervent parrot
For some reason she doesn't manage to Charme him
Try rowan instead of nemora
Sure
The problem is that no one gets his ultimate out because of either getting one shot or isabella
Im giving up and starting a new account honestly
@fervent parrot just make an alt, and play it until you fix this one slowly
Will take a while, but will be okay
It's so depressing seeing everyone getting killed one mili sec before they could ult
All 5 die at the same time š©
@fervent parrot it's better to swap Brutus Lucius
Maybe reset baden to 160 and daimon 180 remove baden for a pull hero and maybe instead of nemora place Rowan
Tried everything
There is no help they all just get one shot one point
OK I got it
Thank you guys
It worked with baden in the front
From what I see reset izold to 60 and get daimon 100 remove izold and place in saurus place grezhul frontline as well
I see 11 heroes that are leveled up stop wasting recourses place them on crystal
Only 5 heroes on a team
Uhm what heros do you recommend to push or to farm into lategame?
Heroes that can help are eironn daimon ainz
@fervent parrot well, yeah, daimon is on. But, most important it's to get ainz albedo tbh, from garrison
But Isolde's clutches a lot
Izold
So can daimon he has bloodshield and can heal
Oh
And does good damage
Ok should I use Silas
Front grezhul thane
Back Daimon silas saurus
No Lucius's
No
also recommend stop making heroes L if you canāt L+ them
youāll get yourself stuck sooner or later
But if it doesn't work without lucius swap thane out maybe
I have one thane
also should reset all those heroes that arenāt your main 5
Really hard to level up heros
well you spread your resources thin
You're wasting recourses on 6 other characters
Some of them are from resonating crystal
Take niru off crystal
niru and ira shouldnāt even be on the crystal
we see 6 leveled and not the crystal
read the first 2 pins in #classic-questions if you havenāt already done so, so you can avoid making anymore mistakes on the account
Is Brutus good
Use the formation I recommended
one of the best tanks in the game
these hero questions get answered and recommended in the google doc
Ok @strong badge
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Use daimon carry to fill the other spot on your team I recommend rosaline
Quite a bit of changes
1 Reset all the heroes that aren't on your current team
2 take niru and ira off crystal
3 reset izold for daimon
Any help? Last 3 stages of ch26
Not really using queen cause no equip, I gave the best to arthur
From what I see
Front: Arthur skreg
Back: daimon rowan ainz
If ainz does nothing tasi/ferael maybe
I stand with this still
Arthur estrilda
Ainz Rowan Belinda/rosa
Helps
Is this the location to post a box for team ideas? Sorry, new here
Check the info about this channel
Bruh š©
Thx siren I passed the level
I'm stuck :c also I'm about to make a A ferael so I can use that too
@bold meteor
You have to play sneaky. Try
Lyca
Brutus
Eironn
Rowan
Daimon
How am I supposed to get these Champs when I live a normal life?
@fervent parrot only doing lab at every 2 days and farming guild coins and lab coins
But it feels so slow
It's 10mins work at every 2 days labs and guild. Boss
yes, unfortunately everythingās a marathon and not a race
Any suggestions? Most comps I've seen on afkhelper require me to level up to 200 crystal or even 220, another 2-3 weeks for me.
It worked ty
I'm not completely sure this will work , but try
Daimon
Lucious
Rowan
Brutus/ the interdimensional
Lyca
And give it a few tries so the rng can kick in at some point
O u have a talene
I'm still new so plenty of room to flex, any suggestions on who I should focus on?
Daimon eironn #classic-questions
Let me just say, dont make any hero L without being able to make them L plus
you can make tasi L+ rn, and also reset brutus for your resources
also reset talene and put her on the crystal
O ya she can, yea make her L plus and also like Hope said reset brutus, u only need 5 main heroes
your main 5 should be L by now, at least E+
@agile roost
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Fawkes if have elite or so, he's the best vs shem ferael etc, if not, tasi or smthing else
Not L, never keep a hero as L, its either e plus or L plus
fodders can be L, itās fine
Fodders is ok ig, but he has tasi and rowan at L...
@bold meteor and what? There's nothing wrong pushing some heroes to l
reset eiron, talene, brutus @round kindle make your main 5 tasi, rowan, viru/silvina, ankhira/saveas, hogan/mirael
def crystal lyca, talene, brutus
Spcly rowan and tasi, which will be ascended as priority
Thanks for the help it worked on the first try and I've been stuck on that stage for over a week
š rip stuck on 36 now
Should be easy
Shem
Rosa
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
Get destroyed
No problem I'm extremely glad to help :)
Could you help on 36
Also if u want a merc I got u
Alr sure send the pic
And did the comp I told u for that one u were stuck on for a week not work for it?
29-60 help pls
@stiff shard thank you!
Nope
@agile roost how's your team looking?
I would try
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Lucious/interdimensional
Lyca/shemira
Nope get destroyed it's kren that keeps killing them all one shots them
Also estrilda
Stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+.
Brutus, Tasi - Front row;
Belinda, Rowan, Rosaline - Back row;
Okk
He might mot shine early-game but when you unlock all his skills he really starts to shine. His Signature Item (Unlocked at M) is amazing at +30
Shemira
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Ferael
No farael
Ikr ive had him on my wishlist since the start but can't pull him but can pull a talene zolrath khazard
Its ok?@pale monolith
Still no luck š
No, Rowan should ways be in the middle
some tips, please
Stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+
Get a proper carrier, Saurus is not one
Daimon
Izold
Talene
Lucius
Tasi
Who heals more, Silas or Rowan?
1
2
Daimon
Thoran
Silas
Brutus
Ferael
any help?
Anything i can make to het past?
I've been stuck on 26-7 for the past 5 days. Any advice would be nice.
Im stuck anything i can make to get past?
remove all mages and put nara opposite to isabella and remove all the gear of brutus so he's the hero with the lowest defense and put daimon behind him
thanks
silvina should target him
wait my carry is a mage mireal
daimon should do fine here
u can alternarively use tasi and remove as much gear untill she got lower deff than mirael
she will tele away
Was I ignored?
no i just went to #classic-questions and asked people for help
(i said can anyone help me in #lineup-help just scroll up a bit, my fault)
who's giving u the most trople?
the engineer guy ar the top does alot of consistent dmg if left un checked
It's the Dwarven bombardier and Morvus that keeps wiping Rowan faster than expected
try tasi and see who she banishes
and swirch lyca and joker position so he can both shoot the engineer and hit the frontline dwarf with his normal atks
y-y-yesterday???
Yeah
i started 6 days ago and i only have 1 legendary and its a fodder
xD
can someone help me too pls? ^^
This might explain something
WHAT IN THE PURCHASES....
How is this man not broke (or woman)
lmfao
Anything i can make to get past?
most offers arent worth it in this game
unless u whale super hard its best to spend wiesely than spend alot
satsrna,thane,saurus,pippa and raku
Ok thanks
Any suggestions?
u can try lucrita brutus ferael nara and lyca
sailas
lyca
ferael
brutus
daimon
or daimon,brutus,ferwel nara and a tasi if u got one
or brutus rowan nara eirron and lucrita
Any thoughts
i hate that stage
Same š
try rowan eirron,ferael,tasi and saurus
Is tidus a good champ early on to make legendary or should i wait for a different from that faction?
or alternatively arthur,eirron,ferael,gwyn,rowan
@lone wren first line up gave some damage, second one I donāt have tasi and Iāll try the third, @odd void potential but daimon just canāt survive long enough unfortunately yet
dont raise anyone early untill u can get 1 hero ascended from eqch faction
use legendary tier heroes untill u need to seitch past lvl 160
But im level 30
try swipe sailas with daimon
@pale kettle
Really if you finish albedo youāll be able to climb a lot a lot more @pale kettle
oh right
do him if u can ggethim to mythic
which is 2 e+ copies
hes solid in mauler tower
Nice thanks @safe tusk
Nice feel free to add and you can check out any of my replays, but I know mid-late 29 I finished Ains 9/9
Yeah I used to run daimon, Tasi, Fareal, Rowan and fill up till now but seems to struggle in 29
any ideas? i'm restricted to running only A units because of powercap so i can't use L+ brutus with barricade (made brutus L+ just for powercap)
29 really suck and u will be stuck often so wait a minute i got a tool to help
i already checked afkhelper
the 2 clears at 265 i found i cannot replicate
hmmmm
If you're somehow still stuck once you have skriath 3F (or merc it)...
there's this that's close to you in power
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6vuqU7Yqd6fEgB-vaLDZi5luutECrhBS
is the safiya optional? or necessary for eironn to survive. maybe a barricade daimon could work as well in that slot for helping eironn tank?
weeeell she is kinda dpsing
I will say this: I only resorted to my incredibly scuffed 5 pull because daimon was being shit on here. I will also note that it is hugely rng, but that was mostly because of my +20 eironn
@pale kettle swap daimon eironn, rowan ferael
This skreg is giving me problems
i ended up beating it with
Fera (Eye)
Rowan (Call)
Eironn (Call)
Thoran (Call)
Daimon (Barricade)
Shem is better than oden imo
Swap her for silv you don't need a food tier hero on your crystal
thank you
Neither are very good but
You don't have very many heros yet
You'll get there though š½
Deff rowan and sarus for sure they two of the best
I would get a tank if I were you, go for thoran (the graveborn king guy)
Saurus isn't a carrier
he is if u know what you're doing
he would need SI and atleast A tho
He's very fragile
he's also that
Saurus is one one the best boss heros lol
saurus has been trash for me
Belinda > Saurus for Wrizz
he keeps dyin
I use both like a champ@pale monolith
im tryin to get thoran as well as fully unlock izzold
With rosa bah gawd
just sick to whislist guides
dont ascend anyone up and stixk to legendsry tier heroes and get 1 hero per faction To A when u got the copies
if its not a stage question dont post here
Izold works decent early-game but to be a carrier he needs Signature Item(M tier) and Furniture (A tier)
thats a lot of words
Izold has never been that good for me idk how to use him properly
Let's not get off-topic
Then again I still use estrilda... I can't seem to give up the hope that one day she will be buffed
Precious horse girl š„“
Save diamonds for pulls
i have been
Estrilda is used in Gwyneth comp sometimes because of her Signature Item
they need more events
Ests furniture is amazing ngl
You pray to the afk gods
- Stop running 2 carriers in 1 team
- Stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+
- Brutus in front of Vedan, Rowan instead of Daimon mid back row
I second that
Be serious on helping don't just tell them random heroes, try to explain why do they need that hero or why is that hero good. Also don't be a troll because they might believe it. Be patient.
I was I just tried mehira
.....
I was just joking
yeah i just copy and paste the pins on the channel
^^ Facts
Stop lecturing ty
I'm very impressed
I donāt have Brutus also I could have got Rowan to l+ but I accidentally made another legendary Rowan
Bruh
Ooof can you reset him?
Idk Mabel
At first Rowan might seem bad but he dosen't shine very early-game. There are better options such as Silas and Talene as healers early-game but he really starts to shine a bit later And with his Signature Item (M Ascension) at +30 he's extremely good
I think you can revert at rickety cart@ionic lava
I need 500 diamonds but my kings tower is broken and kicks me out
You mean its bugged?
No it's hard
No?
I mean it kicks me out if the game
There's an option to repair the game if something wrong with the game
He says he has two legendaries so he can just revert one
Try submitting in #bug-reports
It probably cause I use my iPad
Did it work
No I canāt even start a battle
@brave oriole
Is kings tower important
F
regular KT is gold farm
faction towers are stargazer/dust farm
Do I need to let this download first
Nope
i think i really messed up my lineup, can someone help?
@ionic lava yeah ofc, let it finish the install first
Helppppp
i dont have rowan lol
Hey guys I picked the wrong team :( could anyone help with team to best them?
looking for some good lineups so i have stuff to try if i get stuck, im on chap 16 and any help is appreciated:D
Ainz
Is this a good set up or should I change it
So close with this team but canāt seem to pull it off
M8 I need help ā¬ļø
@pale kettle you don't need tasi, try Saurus
I don't see why use Raku but yes it is. I'd swap Raku for another Mauler to get the Factional Advantage
Yesss
help
Not your stage but this is pretty much the comp I used to get to 29-50. Hopefully this helps you
Finally I beast that stage
Someone suggested I do this but it didn't work anyone else have suggestions? The silvana is wiping my mireal carry
Try switching nara and tasi
closer but now its just the brutus who destory my hogan and my brutus
Hmm
Put daimon in place of Hogan, also u need to give the battles a few tries for the rng to kick in
ok ill try
And if that does not work switch the daimon and the brutus and if that doesnt work lemme know
i just leveled some epic+ thing to 106 or whatever and put brutus in the crystal because hes just epic not epic+ so i wasnt able to level him up and did the formation you suggested
Did it work?
Please dont ignor me im trying this crap stage for almost 2hrs
where is this from ? 
first off too many L heroes just focus on 1 hero To A who u got copies for
2-try lucius daimon nara Rowan and Arden
his roots are still good here
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@lone wren not working
Arden and nara gets one clapped
Need help 29-60
Checked afkhelper?
You have the levels and the heroes, it's a matter of rng (and correct artifacts) now
Well maybe 20 rowan is a bit low
Might as well be 20
Eye on eironn, call on daimon
Doesn't matter much if he's +20
I need a line-up for chap 7
who does oden usualy target
try him both right snd left side
the problem is there's alot of heroes wirh splash smg rhat will nuke your backline
u can try rowan eirron nara oden and lucuis in that order
see if eirrin can get a pull off b4 he gets interrupted
if eirron can get thr pull but cant carry replace daimon with Rowan
Advice?
Efan you should be using rowan
i dont have them E+
wait and get lightbearer elite + fodder, then make gwenyth legendary+ and get your witch girl to l+ then feed her to gwen and then youāll already have a mythic
gwen is pretty bad and + mirael is my carry
I've been using him at elite for a while he's still worth using
gwen isnāt bad... sheās good until chapter 30. gwen is a 10x better carry LOL
She is rn for me. š© š
My carry is Belinda
because sheās e+. make her L+ and then mythic as i said, put her in back row and build hendrik if you can too
same, sheās so bad though . waiting for the swap scroll
I was told not to
WHATTTT
was told not to what?
Bro I've been using her since I got her after the 7 day thing
Do it rn
She's been really good to me
sheās bad compared to most carries, i have her still at chap 22 lol
most anyone in the game will perform well when above the level of the enemies
I'm stuck on chapter 13
interesting
@rustic nacelle + im trying to get lightbearer to get my mirael L+
get copies for daimon when u can (meaning use all your faction scrolls on gb) and you're good
nvm
yes... and make gwenyth legendary + and then feed mirael to gwen, mirael is only a legendary meaning she canāt go to ascended tier, she has a level cap and is no where near good as gwen lol
too soon
should get his first A first per faction
So any suggestions for me?
making gwen A would be smart š
Okay imma just wait for the daily scrolls
the hypo mages need to be stopped
try nara and athalia on their position
or a ferwel with lyca and call/eye if needdd
u also lack a carry
eirrin isnt good this stage in the game
he doednt seem to have the foder to L+ his mirael andni highly doubt he can A gwyn when i can see just a single E+ copy and the rest is blues
there's 2 *
still need more
as i said wait... with the 100 scrolls you can easily get enough fodder to get 3 elite +
100 scrolls are shit
i got 5 elites
3 were pity
got worst rates on alt
100 scrolls are nothing
that's sad
try ferael and lyca
How is it sad I cant make myself get them
Dude just look at my heroes instead of guessing what I have
you have fareal and lyca lol... also you have WAY too many legendaries do not make people legendary unless you have the materials to make them L+
I dont know who fareal is
my guy u need one of those to disable one of them or just be over leveled its simple
and i did see what u got and suggested another comp
u got nothing that can hinder the mages and they will nuke u
so that's why its sad
I dont have fareal
u can try tasi lyca
she may get to banish one but its hardgive her ur best avalible mage boots
i haven't tried silvina but she may be able to interupt either of those
see if she targets them
I tried using a graveborn lineup but it didnt do shit they died just as fast
arden is a good substitute for ferael or nara
try gim and give him also call snd ur best mage boots
the goal is to cc both or either b4 they get their skill off whcuh deals alot of dmg
the dmg is stupidly highl early
I need help idk who to use
I have the lion and the fallen king as my front 2 and the reacoon the guy with a long white Beard and the guy on top row fare right side r all in the back
Picture of characters above
at this stage use your highrst ascension heroes with one carry and they should carry u
ascension levels are rare (just blue)
rare + (blue wirh boarder)
elite purple
elite+(wirh boarder)
legend golden
L+
and so on
u can check who to use that ewrly from thr guides here
Any suggestions?
merc a bigger ainz
Should i level up and rowan and switch rowan with tasi on my team?
u will soon unlock smth called the resonating crystal
it allows u to slot heroed in and they will share the level of the lowest hero among your 5 highest level hero
so try to get by for now and dont level up many random heroes
stick to Legendary tier heroes(ones with just 3 skills) for now and ascend them when u can
Oh ye i forgot about that im rerolling in a new server cause i haven't played since 2019
What team do I use
do try to get a narw if u got a hero chest or smth
u can for now try tasi with lyca to see if u can banish the hypo mage fast
u may want to drop nemora for silas
Any idea?
keep daimon and brutus
test the tasi thing first if didnt work use brutus Lucius silas baden daimon
also most importantly stop getting heroes to L
Got it nvm
the leaderboards got teams that are goo
generally u only need mythic kren wirh +20 SI and the rest at E
mortas twins skirath lorsen
With my daimon team, that guy is to broken
I need a kren merc :c
he is
he will work in 29 60 too even if it doesnt look like it
Yeah Iām trying 60 now
I was told so before today yes
My Fereal and Rowan getting onetapped sigh
control the ferael with nara and put your brutus up to their's
fill wirh what u need,probably just more cc
u may wanr an oden in to remove energy ftom nemora
she heald alot and wirh numisu it sucks
its already a bad stage for daimon since rhe shield he gives back get increased by her passive so try firwt daimon vs brutus if not put him in 2nd slot
goal is to control the ferwel and reduce energy of nemora and get daimon shields to low healrh b4 it expires
Ppls rlly forget about fawkes nowdays, best hero at elite
Thanks. My nenira sadly doesn't egt to ult
And my nemora does shit against fereal
OK tried it with kelthur and oden and it worked
@stiff shard
Nara
Brutus
Lyca
Rowan
Daimon
@raven ice safiya it's not a Frontline hero, put wukong. Wukong up and eironn down
So I swap eironn and wu kong
will try, ty o7
You need an overlevd hero, let's say wukong. Leave the others how they are and keep lvling wukong until 100
Ok thanks
@brave oriole wanna help me with a team for this :/
First of all, ferael is fine lvl 200. I would get something else 240,rowan.maybe so he can Frontline like a boss. Try
Lyca
Ferael
Eironn
Rowan
Daimon
Remove tasi, put eironn and swap with Fera. Eironn need call
So like this? Also doesnāt seem to work
Think bec my Rowan keeps getting onetapped
@pale kettle swap rowan Arthur, then replace Arthur with lyca
What would be the best line up for this
Itās fine Iām done I thin for now, canāt seem to clear itš
@pale kettle make lyca tank athalia and you will pass it
She doesnāt dodge, it gets one tapped š
@brave oriole do u know what I could do
nara the hypo priest
u may need daimin backline since there's neru and isa
like a brutus or a golas
I've been stuck here for a while. Any thoughts or do I just need to get stronger?
Any thoughts? Have one open crystal spot too
Umm this feels impossible
double hypo is very shit yes
if your daimon isn't beefed up u may need to merc stages like this
try alna if u got her + lyca if arden does not get his roots off first with lyca alone
Whatās a good Ainz team without other dimensionals
@weary trench rowan with a chalice instead of lyca and put him in position 4. eironn and daimon in position 3 and 5
Am I screwed? I bet wrong and it seems impossible to beat these 5X Talene
merc a bigger ainz
or try to use pipa and oden to stack them infront of the eirron pull frontline and nuke with that big belinda
Dang, Belinda is a merc, won't be able to use a merc Ainz. This is everything I have:
i did daimon ferael oden pipa on alt wirh similar investment
u may want to try tasi also in
they won at 20sec left
Third day playing now, suggestions for a general comp to be clearing story with? I havenāt had much trouble yet but Iām still learning what heroes do what and itās be neat to know who I have that is good
do my artifacts look okay?
fera
rowan
lyca
tasi
daimon
i've tried barricade daimon without much success so i swapped to ultra greed 3x call. not sure if i should change rowan's call to chalice
barricade on daimon will only make sense if you use eironn together, otherwise he will use call/eye/blade. and rowan can use chalice if you dont want to run 3 call
so i could probably go chalice daimon, everything else the same? i know this comp can clear the stage since i've seen it twice on afkhelper
no why would daimon use chalice? put chalice on rowan
Is this even possible with what I have? I know Iām kind of low.
oops that's what i meant
brain off too late
the power scaling in chapter 13 is no joke... im getting annihilated by dreaf... any advice?
How should I change it
Need help I hit a roadblock and my daimon is only elite and lvl 100 max need help for a new lineup
Send the enemies too...
@spare rune can u send a screen recording of what happens in battle usually
If izold isnāt getting an active off, replace him with lyca and swap spots with Rowan
Ok thanks
Also swap daimon with alna, see if she gets her immunity before getting killed
Are u getting crushed? Or are u getting a few actives off
Crushed
Then just wait for mercenaries to reset š¤·āāļø
Maybe like 2 actives
From who?
Send screenshot of after battle data
I don't have a carry ther all equal except rowan I need another elite daimon for her elite plus
Have u tried wukong as a carry? Heās usually very good around this level. Also, Rowan aināt rly a carry lol, daimon should be the overleveled one
Yes ik
But my rowan is legend however I would upgrade daimon higher but I cant
She's only elite and I have her maxed
Try a Silas in the back instead of lyca?
K
Daimon is a guy lmao
Nice
I switched lyca for Silas and alna for izold and won
Silas is very nice support
Had only him and eironn at ascended and CARRIED me through chapters cuz his injection and eironnās freeze had so much control/sustain
Dam
Help š« occasionally, eironn can kill the fereal with wind blade but the other 4 just clean up him and stitchy
anyone know what to do? been stuck for a while now
What about swap Thoran and Brutus, then replace Brutus with Gwyneth
Thoran frontline and switch Estrilda with Tasi maybe?
So you get the 3/2 faction buff which will help a lot I feel
Or maybe just replace Brutus with talene
this almost worked daimon needed to kill lucius and tasi
Oh wait itās this wave! I just beat it like yesterday lmao
hh
Wait thereās someone on my server with literally almost the exact same heroes as u who is currently ahead of me in campaign... they also have ascended 240 stitchy and ascended 200 thoran and mythic+ rowan
whatt lmao
Unfortunately I canāt see their replays anymore and Iām pretty sure they also had an ascended ferael to help but I donāt think he dealt much damage
ah so i need ferael
No u donāt, why do u not run gwyneth? Does she die too quick?
i was just wondering lol i tried it
it almost works with ferael too
but 3 are alive instead of 2 with him
Maybe replace Brutusās spot with lyca and give her good gear and pray she dodges lots of athaliaās hits
she died instantly š
Also have you played around with talene? Even an elite talene helped me get through some levels in chapter 25 cuz her suicide and revive heals so much
iāll try her
Can u send a screenshot of battle stats of a usual loss?
Oh take off estrilda for maybe lyca or something
Ye
Hmm idk lmao... I had a 240 eironn and daimon to beat this cuz eironn is so good for penetrating defense and itās 2 carries so idk what to do in ur situation
hmm i guess iāll wait to mercenary an eironn then?
This was my win sc btw, if u might need some reference
thanks
If you have alna, maybe you can try Daimon, Alna, Thoran, Rowan, Talene?
what artifact did u put on daimon
Call
alright thanks
Luc, brut, daimon, rowan, talene?
Talente only on elite?
Woah you gazing for zaph?
I did but I stopped now
^^
Haha yeah, apparently not very useful. I think most players usually wanna first gaze for twins, talene, or lucretia
Yes
I got Talente from gazing a single one for 500 XD
Or maybe swap talene and luc position(?)
Who should I use for this?
I would assume ainz for both ults ? Idk
Problem is that rowan gets his energy drained and can't ult
U use Rowan for heals, no? Would leg+ Rowan even live that long?
He does
Problem is now that the nemora shield is too strong and the shemira damage
I survive now but they heal too much
@fervent parrot do you have a copy of alna?
Nope sadly not
Idk how to give people advice who donāt have eironn lmfao, he was my first ascended hero and still main carry so everything I know about lineup is about optimal eironn placement for pull + support for eironn
I have eiron but he's shit on my acc
Cuz itās hard to imagine what I would do for like 1 or 2 main problem opponents because I would usually just place eironn opposite to it (and he will probably kill them quick with a lyca/safiya pyramid support)
The prob is nemora and shemira its disgusting
Thatās interesting to see what heroes other people consider āannoyingā because nemora isnāt annoying at all for me because a stab and ult from eironn will just kill her so Iāve never had any trouble with nemora š¤
Welp without an eiron it's impossible
Lmao no, the answer to everything in this channel is just āwait until u level upā
rowan ult can stun nemora and stop her healing have you tried that?
How does he reach her?
Intercontinental ballistic missile
if you put him in front row
As long as Nemora doesn't ult
Not sure If it belongs here but any ideas for Team for starters
And what would that be?
I donāt have him as a unit, but I have him Merced
I used Nakoruru Arthur Albedo Numisu Ezio
....
I only have Nimusu out of all those, and even then Nimusu isnāt built
Completed it. Thank you.^^
Np!
Anyone to suggest best line-ups for Chapter progress for now till I work on Daimon?
can someone make me 3 teams thanks in advance
Ainz is linked to Shem
Arthur to Brutus
- You really need to build Rowan
- If I were you I would swap Daimon and Shemira with the Swap Scroll
- I don't think Lucius is of much use now
- Try:
Ghezul, Brutus - Front row;
Ferael, Numisu, Daimon- Back row; - I'd look forward to building the standard Daimon comp
(Thoran, Rowan - Front row;
Daimon, Ferael, Nara - Back row;)
@golden edge he is 184 levels above you, his tree is 70 level above you, the Dura's blessings are 70-80 levels above you. He is a top whale. There is NO way you can beat him
What can i make into a team with these heroes.
Could i get some help making a good team. These are the heros iāve got
reset talene and put her on crystal, get the lv11 mirael to L with your 2 fodder and make her one of your main 5, reset wu @frozen ridge
don't make heroes L (antandra) if you can't L+ them (like you did with numisu, grezhul, and can do with tasi
thought i had a dupe set up for antandra to go to L+ but relised it was for another hero to late
main 5 should be numisu, grezhul, tasi, mirael, shemira eventually
ah gotcha
should i still take mirael to L though i currently can't go to L+ or should i wait till i can go straight away. I don't think im too far from doing that rn
she's fodder so it's fine, gotta raise your level cap
Ghezul is great but you need to invest in him. He needs Signature Item (M tier) and Furniture (A tier)
Brutus, Thoran - Front row;
Mirael, Rowan, Arden/Rosaline/Lyca - Back row;
You can't level Mirael after lvl 160 so when you reach lvl 160 switch to Daimon
whats some heros i should be looking for that would improve my team quite a but
I dont own brutus though
You pull him then
I been trying
Numisu is a pretty good healer early if you don't have other heros but Silas and Talene are the best healers early-game and you got both so I'd use Talene instead of Numisu. I don't know when Shemira works but if I were you I think I'd start using her after Mirael reaches lvl 160. You can try:
Antandra, Talene - Front row:
Lyca, Mirael, Tasi - Back row;
Also, keep Mirael 40 levels above everyone else
Ok so I downloaded this game for my brother ( he is autistic and talks about this game ALL THE TIME so i wanted to download it so we had something to talk about that he enjoyed) wtf do i do ?????
def check out the first 2 pins in #classic-questions, basically gets you to everything you need to know starting out
Ive gotten most of the way but im now stuck lol and thanks!!
Try use daimon or shemira in ur team
And also tru move Eironn to a different position, try Rosa/lyca in back middle
can i get help making some good teams please
@meager steeple Lucius back of talene with dura's call, Rosa back of shem
Hello just started playing the game.. needed advice on how to make a good team and wanted to know if my team was good or how to improve
I want my team to have full potential as I am also struggling at chapter 6
I have Wukong aswell just got him
Level up only 5 heroes
Put all others in crystal
And have your carry higher level than others
Belinda, Mehira, Arden - Back row;
Lucius, Antandra - Front row;
Thank you
Like this...I will put them in crystal
Put mehira in the back middle, position 4
@vapid field you better lvl daimon and not lyca
I was leveling Lyca to pair with Eir, that not really worth it? I haven't really used him until this acc, I thought she needed to live.
lyca doesn't need to live, her SI effect stays after death, much like Albedo
Well, she's kinda the same 180 or 160. Anyway, where talene is would work fawkes to get rid of shem, or tasi
Oh her +20 stays effective even though the acc buff doesn't?
Oh, I didn't realize that was the primary value.
Lyca it's used more for her haste when battle start, it make the biggest diff
Without it eironn would be slow at all
yea
Anyway, with your current setup, if you lvl daimon instead of lyca he can kill some, being back of Brutus. Ofc you need to work out your daimon, gear si etc
Daimon was 100% correct. tyty. This was very informative.
Anyone have any ideas for a fifth and how to beat this stage?
@past thistle reset estrilda to 140,and lvl shem
nem is useless here, raku can't carry at L+, hypo mages just stun nem. i'd say brutus and probably gorvo to buy time for shemira
If need more dust reset nem too
any idea?
@tulip cloud yeah wrong lvls, reset nara grez to 200,push shem Lucius to 240
just dont lv up equally lol, hard lv main carry
do your gorvo survive 5s ?
nah just checking if your gorvo can tank or not
oh gorvo has shell shield survive 6 seconds
Try changing belinda with shemira
alr
lyca instead of raku
res levels, use brutus (max him), also use Lyca
well, use it while you can for now
Don't spam L heroes with 4 skills
Overlevel carry (should be mirael but whatever works)
Read tree3's pinned guide in #classic-questions to get a feel for earlygame
does brutus for for Overlevel carry?
Brutus is not a carry, you need someone with damage

