lineup-help

[pale kettle]

Dies in a sec or 2

[terse lintel]

Have you been redeeming codes

[pale kettle]

Yep done all of em

[maiden marsh]

vedan 's probably killing whoever is front bottom

[pale kettle]

How do I counter that? And yeah both my front lines get wasted

[terse lintel]

Thats the formation id use and change according to how it plays out

[pale kettle]

Alright I'll try

What do I level more? I can do about 2 100s one 115 and 2 90s

[maiden marsh]

level mirael until she can't be anymore, then level others only to relieve the cap on her

[pale kettle]

Ah

So everyone level 81? And cap her basically?

[terse lintel]

Level her mainly til you cant

When she hits a progress block then level the others only enough so that you can level her up again

However after she is leveled start with your frontline heros next and so on until you can put more into mirael

[pale kettle]

@terse lintel

Alr this is what it's lookin like, should I run it and see what happens?

[terse lintel]

Adjust your gear first too

[pale kettle]

Ah should I screenshot my gear?

[terse lintel]

I'd just go thru and remove all gears from heros and then requip in order of mirael > rosa > arden, Lyca and estrilda are their own types so what best you can

[pale kettle]

Alright done

[ivory sable]

how do i beat this?

[pale kettle]

Alright, lasted a few seconds longer I guess @terse lintel

[terse lintel]

It really may just bare down to lack of hero quality for you @pale kettle but I'd keep trying as rng is crazy like that and adjust according to how it plays out

Like swapping lyca and estrilda places

[pale kettle]

Hero quality? Wdym, and idk, it seems TERRIBLY one sided everyone dies in about 3 seconds

I used to he able to get 1 enemy remaining against my shemira with my old team and then run out of time and lose

[maiden marsh]

Is rosa managing to ult?

[pale kettle]

Yeah no she dies fast

Only one to ult is mira

And that's after everyone dies

[terse lintel]

Does rosa have the artifact dura call?

I forget when you can get it and such

[pale kettle]

Ah mira has that on her

Wait no it's dura's grace not call

You can get dura's call 9-4

@terse lintel

[terse lintel]

Only other thing I can think of is using eironn but you may be stuck to waiting on more hero pulls and/or levels

[thorny pendant]

Wow that's a lot earlier than I would have guessed

[pale kettle]

@terse lintel alright I'll just afk I guess and wait for tomorrow's global reset for more levels, and @thorny pendant yeah it's in peaks of time - rest in peace

Which is unlocked 9-4

[terse lintel]

@ivory sable if you can take rowan signature to +30 then do so and use him in front then replace brutus for tasi or Isabella imo

[wispy night]

Any advice to clear this?

This my box

[thorny pendant]

maybe brutus daimon lyca rowan ferael

[pale kettle]

[pale monolith]

Why the Nara? Maybe put Rowan where Nara is and Thoran front row

[pale monolith]

Daimon

Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi

[proven rock]

pls help

stuck

[idle flame]

any sugestions?

[atomic ruin]

Try this
Daimon

Rowan
Thoran
Talene
Ferael

[proven rock]

[atomic ruin]

I passed this level a long time ago, but it should still work

[proven rock]

wow even with an L Talene thank you so much!!!!

[atomic ruin]

GG ^^

[proven rock]

[narrow gulch]

what is thiiiiiis

what are those statistics

[pale monolith]

After the battle is finished there is a button in the lower right corner

[narrow gulch]

oh lemme see

alr what do I do with this

izold dies from time to time but it's usual

[pale monolith]

Get a proper carrier

[narrow gulch]

wdym

[pale monolith]

Antandra is not an carrier

[narrow gulch]

oh yeah I understand now what you mean by carrier

which hero should I use instead of her then

this is what I have rn

[pale monolith]

Carrier - Damage dealer
You have 3 options:

1. Go with Daimon, low investment, one of the top carriers
2. If you don't have Daimon you can use Mirael but her max level is 160
3. When you gwt a hero to M, garrison Ainz and invest everything you have in him. Maxed out you can go into battle with a 200 level gap

[narrow gulch]

oh tysm!

lucius is good too

also I don't have either of those 3

[pale monolith]

He falls off lafer hard. Also don't ascend to L if you can't ascend to L+. Might wanna read pins is #classic-questions and get your wishlist in the Tavern(upper left corner)

[narrow gulch]

TYYYYYY

[pale monolith]

You can't get Ainz since he comes from a diffrent faction then the others. The only way to get him now is trough a function called Garrison. Also for Mirael you'll get her quickly since she is Rare Tier and not Elite

[narrow gulch]

oh she's only rare?

but lucius's shield allows my healer to heal everyone while the shield is active

[pale monolith]

There are 3 types of heroe:

1. Common (Dreaf, Lord Merek, etc...) which are the most common but useless. You can retire them at the Rickey Cart for resources
2. Rare (Mirael, Saveas, Arden...) they have a bit lower drop rates and are common heros used early-game since they are easy to get
3. Elites (Lucius, Eironn, Daimon...) they are the rarest and the only one used when you advance later

[narrow gulch]

i use only elites

[pale monolith]

If you invest in Lucius you'll regret it later, he might seem useful now but later his shield will be insignificant and he will have a hard time survivng
Also nothing wrong with using Rare

[ashen dragon]

So what makes it that the PC lucius sucks, but the NPC lucius is a total pain in the ass

[past urchin]

He is paper at a higher level deficits.
The only damage mitigation he has is that big shield he puts in front of himself.
And plate armor...but that doesnt matter much.
The problem is later on he wont live to get his shield off.
Without it he is 200 free energy for the AI.

Hes a powerhouse early game though.
He has uses in LB tower, or Trials of God later.
Hes not horrible.
Just not worth high investment.
Its ok to ascend him if you get the copies somehow.
Dont invest in his signature item.or furniture though.
That is a waste.

[shrewd sorrel]

[hoary root]

Hi somebody can guide me with my team comp im stage 11 thx :p

[pale kettle]

Had to cheese with Lucretia

[pale monolith]

Ainz

Brutus
Rowan
Eulard/Thoran/Saurus
Lyca

[pale monolith]

Tasi, Lucius - Front row;
Lyca, Rowan, Shemira - Back row;

[twilit mango]

Ping me if u have a lineup, thx

[supple wing]

Last stage of the chapter? I would just mercanary an ainz for example and clear it.

[twilit mango]

I can't lol, and it's 60 for the last chapter

[warm swan]

@twilit mango Rowan, brutus, fera, mehira, daimon. Call on mehira and see if she gets rowan's mana potion first to charm the enemies. Tho I'm not sure if that will be enough of stall for daimon.

[twilit mango]

Who do I put where

[warm swan]

If you clear your entire line-up, your side of the field will show 1-2-3-4-5 on the floor. So when players say "rowan, brutus, fera, mehira, daimon" that usually means rowan in position 1, brutus in position 2, and so on and so forth.

[twilit mango]

Nvm I cleared it

OK thx

[split oar]

smurf acc never used graveborns, what should be a overall comp?

[vapid blade]

need help, im hard stuck here

[vapid blade]

nvm completed with Eironn, Lucius, Joker, Rowan and Ferael

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/ad0d5e587e90d5f80c12586d28d47444

[amber zealot]

Who out if these should I use to beat 22-60?

It's this one

[agile roost]

Help pls

[errant notch]

hi can anyone help me form a new team , i got some new characters

[amber halo]

Never been more mad on a stage in my life . Delete Mehira pls

[sacred drift]

I cant beat this stage for the life of me, everyone somehow just keeps healing just as they boutta die then tasi one shots my team. Help please

[exotic ore]

hmm try brutus lyca daimon rowan tasi

@sacred drift

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift mhmh, what's your artifacts? It's a bit bad with daimon far from rowan

I would try
Daimon
Rowan
Lyca
Eironn
Safiya

[sacred drift]

Im not sure much bout artifacts

[brave oriole]

Too many calls, use chalice on rowan, eye eironn

[sacred drift]

Ill try

[brave oriole]

Btw, just noticed, you should try 5, pull@sacred drift

Daimon
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
Chicken

And if silvina attack the chicken and not rowan, swap lyca with chicken so eironn pull silvina too

[sacred drift]

Idk why but out of nowhere my eirron went from being banished to just outright dying as soon as the game statts

Starts*

[brave oriole]

Well, keep trying, dodge it's a huge rng

Daimon should go wild at some point

[sacred drift]

Well i hope

[brave oriole]

Too fast death, mhm.

[sacred drift]

Yeah i have no idea whats happeninf

[brave oriole]

Swap top with bottom

[sacred drift]

Still not working

[brave oriole]

You changed the artifacts?

[sacred drift]

Yes i did
I dont get it, did my eironn just ranomly lose all his dodge points? Hes barely even dodging a single attack in like the past 15 retries

[brave oriole]

Try a sec safiya instead of lyca, I'm curious if there's time to cast the mantra

[sacred drift]

Silvia targets safiya.

[rigid birch]

remove daimon and thoran it

i think it will take sometime due to the lack of enemy burst

keep it in mind as a last resort

eironn skriath without safiya's pyramid is just a really fast way to kill eironn, also there's an enemy tasi so one teleport kills 3/5 of your team

i'd say scrap eironn

[brave oriole]

Nah, daimon can make it. Just pulling 5x it's too hard for him

[sacred drift]

Literally the reason i cant beat the stage.

[warm swan]

Most of the time 5pulling a tasi is suicide anyway. You pull her team, she deathblinks yours

[rigid birch]

^

[sacred drift]

Ok what my daimon is getting banished now instead of eironn.

[brave oriole]

He need eironn to pull eironn, so try again with
Daimon
Rowan
Lyca
Eironn
Tasi

[sacred drift]

Tasi pretty much instantly dies too btw

[brave oriole]

Then find a replacement

[rigid birch]

actually, maybe
Daimon
Tasi
Lyca
Rowan
Eironn

this way eironn doesn't pull tasi, and enemy eironn gets pulled too

[brave oriole]

Some hypogean

Or even talene

But if talene, put front of eironn

[sacred drift]

Silvia insta kills tasi

[brave oriole]

Yeah she cannot tank yet. Try talene front down and eironn back

[sacred drift]

Replacing with brutus got me slightly closer

[rigid birch]

drape on tasi maybe
make silvina target rowan

[brave oriole]

She's 220

[rigid birch]

ah
tasi's a lost cause then

[brave oriole]

Eh, daimon will win sooner or later, he just need to find one right hero

[sacred drift]

Why is it that one time tasi banishes eironn then daimon the next

[brave oriole]

I prefer mehira when silvina

Well, sometimes daimon does the first big dps sometimes eironn

[sacred drift]

Yeah at this rate this stage is just a lost cause for me

[sacred drift]

The stages way too hard for me bruh

Thoran at L

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift yeah, under 240 sux, but hey, you should pass it still with +30 daimon

[sacred drift]

Im TRYING BUT ITS JUST NOT HAPPENING ASIDNRIRNROWKBEIDKFJ

[rigid birch]

try this formation but put in brutus for tasi

[brave oriole]

Okay, but chicken don't need to be 240,honestly Lucius would be great now

He can cancel eironn pull etc

[sacred drift]

Ive already tried that, doesnt work either

[brave oriole]

If you put dura's call on Lucius, and some. Good shoes with high mspd, eironn. Enemy won't pull a shit

[rigid birch]

try sending a replay of that formation, to see if it has potential or not

[sacred drift]

Lucius just instantly dies before the match starts

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift 220 yeah, but not 240

[brave oriole]

Why rowan vs eironn? Should be Brutus there

[rigid birch]

so eironn pulls silvina

[brave oriole]

She's not an issue for rowan, not that big

[rigid birch]

thought it would help in daimon charging his si up

[brave oriole]

Well, would help more rowan pot

[maiden marsh]

Rowan is fine being the target of silvina. It's ideal really

[rigid birch]

right, swap daimon and lyca, she doesn't need pots

[brave oriole]

I just think that talene is better than Brutus there

[rigid birch]

possibly yeah

[sacred drift]

My talene isnt in rc tho

[frozen sundial]

does anyone have 30SI 3/9 Estrilda?

[brave oriole]

Add@sacred drift

[frozen sundial]

actually w/e furniture

[brave oriole]

Why would you need such hero? Doesn't make any diff

[frozen sundial]

I forgot about one MV stage, where I need 4 LBs to clear.

[brave oriole]

And what do you have?

[frozen sundial]

sec

[brave oriole]

Best merc probly is gwyn or so

[rigid birch]

merc rosaline
20 si minimum, good gear on estrilda vs antandra and u good

[brave oriole]

Yeah kinda

[summer cedar]

When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool

[brave oriole]

But you should win this even now

[frozen sundial]

any Rose? or I need specific furniture

[rigid birch]

20 si, rose doesn't need furniture

[frozen sundial]

nah, I can't win this. I tried like 20 times

not even close. Daimon can't carry this

[brave oriole]

Just swap your heroes man,
Daimon
Rowan
Gwyn
Rosaline
Lucius

[frozen sundial]

my elite? ok, let's see

[rigid birch]

dont forget the gear

[brave oriole]

Yeah, the power gap is small

[frozen sundial]

if I had fodders, I have enough copies for ascended Rose

[sacred drift]

Talene isnt working any better.

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift how's your setup right now?

[frozen sundial]

nah, Im getting literally shredded

[brave oriole]

Swap daimon gwyn

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift swap rowan talene

[sacred drift]

Also tried it with talene infront of eironn, that didnt work either

[frozen sundial]

ye, can't. need mercenary

[pale kettle]

Im crying 🥲

[brave oriole]

@frozen sundial find a lucius 5* etc etc, many have it

[sacred drift]

What do i dooooooooo aaaaaa

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift try to swap lucius chicken lvls

Lucius with call and gear would cancel eironn pull

[pale kettle]

What about me experta

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle mhm, talene back suck. Pulling Isa not good, since Brutus tank Isa and shem it's all good. Do you have nemora?

[brave oriole]

I would try
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Daimon
Rowan

[sacred drift]

Lucius isnt rlly doing anything

[keen cobalt]

Can someone make me a team

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift does he have good shoes? Need mspd to cc eironn, and dura's call

[sacred drift]

Minimum requirement for shoes? Stars, tier, etc

[fluid halo]

1. Monke
2. Rosaline
   3.racoon
3. Fire lady
4. Shemira

[pale kettle]

Brutus dies before isa ults, if isa ults my whole team is gone, and yes i do have a shemora

[keen cobalt]

Thanks

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle posted a setup up, restart if nem didn't charmed ferael

[pale kettle]

Ok ty

[fluid halo]

Could someone help me .-.

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift if you have faction shoes it's the best, just need something t1 with stars for mspd

[shrewd sorrel]

[sacred drift]

Alright, how many stars?

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift well, if it's some faction that you will use, max would give the best mspd

[sacred drift]

Alright ill try that

[pale kettle]

How can i tell if nemora charmed someone

[brave oriole]

It should write it after 2 sec on the enemy

[sacred drift]

Daimon dies while eironn is banished/lucius is ccing enemy eironn

[brave oriole]

If she's middle, she can charm front heroes, or the middle one, so a lot of rng, need retries @pale kettle

@sacred drift if you use Lucius, don't need eironn anymore I guess. Can you post again your heroes?

[shrewd sorrel]

[brave oriole]

@fluid halo you cxant use merc for this? No idea where's this fight atm

[fluid halo]

Anniversary event

[brave oriole]

@fluid halo use merc?

[shrewd sorrel]

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift mhm, you didn't lvled Lucius yet. It may work as a replacement for eironn, ezio or so of he can dodge a little

[pale kettle]

Xperta, she managed to charm him but not much happened really 😦

[brave oriole]

@shrewd sorrel honestly, rowan is fine 200,can you get Saurus 240?if reset rowan?

[fluid halo]

Merc?

[sacred drift]

Yeah im dust capped for lucius only, sitting at 33k/40k dust

[shrewd sorrel]

yes ill do

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift I know, but I mean, to reset the chicken back to 220,and push Lucius

[sacred drift]

Oh ok

[shrewd sorrel]

the which formation

[fluid halo]

What does merc mean?@brave oriole

[sacred drift]

Done that, what should i do now?

[brave oriole]

@shrewd sorrel I would try
Ainz
Brutus
Rowan
Saurus
Daimon or tasi

[fluid halo]

Who should I merc?

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift well, try
Daimon
Rowan
Lyca
Lucius
Something.. Try a few heroes, even fawkes

[sacred drift]

Welp alright ill try

[brave oriole]

@fluid halo find some ainz with +20 signature item

A +30 would be better

[sacred drift]

Yeah i think i need eironn in there, otherwise daimons gonna get banished and my whole teams gonna die instantly

[fluid halo]

@brave oriole best one is 1 star 17 sig item

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift try eironn and Lucius then

But Lucius front

[sacred drift]

Aight ill try

[brave oriole]

If want 100%banish on eironn put blade on him or so

@fluid halo wait a sec

[sacred drift]

Yeah @brave oriole nvm ima just try again tmmr or something coz its late and i wanna sleep now coz afk stressing me tf out

Ty for the help tho.

[brave oriole]

@sacred drift by tomorrow you will be 240 on all. Rest well

[sacred drift]

Gnight to u too

[brave oriole]

@fluid halo add this on friend list 69397091 it's one of my alts with +30ainz

[pale kettle]

Need team for 15-40

[maiden marsh]

nice box decoration

[worthy steeple]

Wrong channel

[pale lagoon]

Any ideas/Mercs I should use for these 2 stages? Thanks in advance.

[normal carbon]

Stuck on this currently, any ideas? Having troubles finishing off safiya

[brave oriole]

You need lyca i guess, and eironn it's using call? @normal carbon

[normal carbon]

Where should I set lyca?

[brave oriole]

She's strong? Lyca strong enough to tank athalia?

[normal carbon]

Def not

[pale lagoon]

You just need her for haste

[brave oriole]

You can try, with tasi front and lyca back

No Lucius means

[pale lagoon]

@brave oriole any ideas for my question? If no it's ok though :)

[brave oriole]

@pale lagoon is this lab?

[pale lagoon]

PoT

Last 2 fights

2nd last PoT, I forget the name

[cursive sparrow]

Just come back after a 2 year break and I have no idea what to build 🤷‍♂️

Arden and sav are useless at this level now right?

[pale lagoon]

Use codes btw @cursive sparrow

[brave oriole]

Aha. Well,I can't see all your heroes, but this team it's. Not okay. Eironn need lyca haste to kill fast

[cursive sparrow]

Codes?

[pale lagoon]

Ok, would you like me to post my heroes? @cursive sparrow search redemption codes on your web browser.

[cursive sparrow]

Ohh yeah I think I did those, like 10 of them

[pale lagoon]

Ok cool. Check u/whitesushii on Reddit for his guides/pins in this channel to catch up. Come back after reading the unit tier lists and stuff, just so I'm not saying simpler stuff that's already written somewhere else.

[brave oriole]

@pale lagoon mhm, with lyca you would be able to try
For the first fight let's say
Lyca
Rowan
X
Eironn
X

[cursive sparrow]

Legend, I’ll go check now

[pale lagoon]

Coolio

[brave oriole]

Don't know your heroes so you try the best ones to add

[pale lagoon]

Anybody I need to Merc? My lyca is E+, but I just need her for speed right? Here's my other units;

Ig ainz + daimon Merc?

[brave oriole]

@pale lagoon she's fine.
Try
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Eironn
Lyca

[pale lagoon]

Ok thanks, I'll try that

[cursive sparrow]

@pale lagoon should I still be using elites at this level or nah?

[pale lagoon]

It depends, some units are usable at elite, others aren't

Some units useable at E are Brutus and Lyca, who are used for their invincibility/haste, respectably

@brave oriole it worked with like, daimon

Brutus
Rowan
Eirron
Lyca

I'll try to do the second one myself, thanks for the help dude

[glad acorn]

Need help with stage 8-40

[brave oriole]

@pale lagoon just put eironn front tk pull the 2 feraels

[dreamy drum]

Any suggestions, im struggling on this one

[gray escarp]

tips?

[pale lagoon]

That's the plan :)

@glad acorn you only need 5 units levelled, reset saurus, serius, estrilda, gorvo, safiya, Mirabel, everyone else lower

Put levels into mirael, try to get her to L+

[pale lagoon]

Post the stage like this (showing the enemy positioning)

[gray escarp]

yup will do, although I was thinking in general not for the stage but one sec

[pale lagoon]

Ok :) I'll check for generally.

[cursive sparrow]

Ok so @pale lagoon I can’t level up anyone else at the moment because I’m at the level cap on Brutus and satrana? Do I just need to get lucky? 😂

[pale lagoon]

Same thing with you, reset safiya/wukong. You should level wukong to 100, after 100 then use mirael/saveas until 160.

[gray escarp]

Here it is

[pale lagoon]

Are you stuck somewhere? I can help

[pale lagoon]

Rosaline

Lucius
Mirael
Rowan
Wukong/Nemora

[cursive sparrow]

Nooo I just feel like I need to rest and invest elsewhere 👀

[pale lagoon]

Show units

[gray escarp]

also nyte you said something about reseting and only needing 5 leveled heroes? Does that have to do with the resonating crystal?

[cursive sparrow]

@pale lagoon ☝🏼

[gray escarp]

Also the lineup worked ty ❤️

[golden spoke]

Need help

[brave oriole]

I've used long time ago Eironn with safiya, but you don't have safiya. Try
Lyca
Tasi/Saurus
Nara
Rowan
Eironn

[lucid wagon]

i will play white ainz , what do you fit in with?

[clear lark]

what can i do here anyone know?

[pale lagoon]

Yes

[gray escarp]

should I reset as well?

[pale lagoon]

Just keep 5 levelled units. Then you can use the reset resources to level them more.

[gray escarp]

Alright

[shrewd sorrel]

@brave oriole

[pale monolith]

Does Gwyneth carry or does Daimon carry

[clear lark]

gwyn daimon dies more easily in that

[pale monolith]

Ferael

Thoran/Estrilida
Rowan
Brutus
Gwyneth

[clear lark]

gwyn got banished by tasi

[pale monolith]

Crazy

[brave oriole]

@shrewd sorrel

@ebon hazel you need a very strong Gwyneth or Belinda to be followed by rosaline, then easy win

[ebon hazel]

I have a perfect T2 set and a T3 weapon, 203.
Still can't get past.

[brave oriole]

@ebon hazel Rosa follows gwyn?

[ebon hazel]

Yes

[cosmic mountain]

Can anyone help me make a general team to push in currently stuck on ch23

[mellow swan]

Ewww

[safe ridge]

Yeah

[warm swan]

@safe ridge what relic on bel? Blade?

[gray escarp]

Which of these do I level for the crystal and which do I reset in yalls opinion

[warm swan]

Like this

[safe ridge]

@warm swan iirc yes

[warm swan]

Idk what else to say. I used the exact comp as you posted. I can't remember tho how many tries I did that, sorry.

[pale kettle]

joker, eironn, safiya, daimon, rowan

with tasi or lyca

[safe ridge]

@warm swan wait, she has eye on

[cosmic mountain]

joker eiron in the front?

[pale kettle]

no, eironn at the backline, depends

with safiya 4th skill that would be easy

[cosmic mountain]

nah i die in a second

[pale kettle]

rowan can help

[warm swan]

@safe ridge i think it was something with bel blade, call on rosa, estrilda chalice, and cecilia idk she dies anyway

[pale kettle]

what's the best team

[pale monolith]

Safyia

Antandra
Rowan/Eironn
Brutus
Eironn/Rowan

[pale kettle]

Any advice??

[pale monolith]

Maybe:
Ainz

Arthur
Nemora/Numisu
Brutus
Safyia

[pale kettle]

:<

[pale monolith]

<:

[warm swan]

@pale kettle Same line-up as what fesh said but sub in nara to hook that mehira and keep her occupied. Make sure nara hooks her before she summons her bats

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle you need to pull mehira with nara. Try
Ainz
Arthur
Nara
Saurus
Safiya

[opaque gale]

Can anyone help get past this?

[warm swan]

Why pick nem as your reinforcement?

[pale monolith]

Is Daimon your carey or is Mirael your carry

[opaque gale]

Random really

And daimon is, I just put her in cause she was L a few stages ago and it got me past a hump

[pale monolith]

Lyca

Hogan
Rowan
Daimon
Ferael

[pale kettle]

I SEE POTENTIAL!! TY

I DID IT

[opaque gale]

What is feraels niche?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle nice 🤓

[maiden marsh]

Ferael isn't niche, he's one of the best cc units in the game

[opaque gale]

Well I tossed him on my empty slot and I'm at 9-40 so I just wanted to know the mechanics of my success

[pale monolith]

[opaque gale]

If instead of daimon mirael was my carry, what would be a solid team?

[glad heath]

Any suggestions for team 4 & 5 (especially 4, sad)

[brave oriole]

@glad heath when ever you see mehira, need nara or athalia to cc

[glad heath]

I tried with athalia but it just won't work

[brave oriole]

My alt setup on this

[glad heath]

I'll give it a try, thanks

[brave oriole]

Np

Athalia need much acc, artifact etc

[pale kettle]

@maiden marsh @terse lintel I do admit I was wrong, if Rosa gets her ult off and with Arden's shield on estrilda at this lvl in the game it's quite a decent mira carry comp, ty, just had to change up a few back row positions with Arden in the middle this time and it works much better

[weary trench]

This stage keeps slapping me into the dirt. Anybody help me?

[maiden marsh]

Try Lyca, thoran, daimon, eironn, brutus

[terse lintel]

@pale kettle 👍

[sly talon]

:/

[pale kettle]

what should my team be? failing on tanks atm

[sly talon]

How to beat this level?

[compact breach]

What option do you think is better for defense?

[west hornet]

What do I do?

[cerulean cedar]

level your heroes

[west hornet]

i have no hero xp but i have tons of coins @cerulean cedar

[cerulean cedar]

then afk for hero exp

[west hornet]

so i cant rearrange any of my guys to win

[cerulean cedar]

you probably could with enough retries but the easiest way is to get levels

[west hornet]

ok

[real schooner]

Aaarg someone help me cheese this! It's not even Brutus, it's Skreg! He never dies >.<

[pale kettle]

@brave oriole I need your expertise again.

[terse lintel]

@pale kettle I would go with wukong and lucius in front then mirael, rosalyn, and lyca in back

[trail raven]

is my team good?

[terse lintel]

If it gets you places but there is most likely better formations

[shrewd sorrel]

ah yes i love it

[ashen nexus]

is swearing allowed

[terse lintel]

It's frowned upon but does happen

[shrewd sorrel]

try not to is the tip

[ashen nexus]

mk

[urban leaf]

Any suggestions for my team I’m currently stuck in chapter 12-20ish

[shrewd sorrel]

why is everyone upgrading to L? damn

its so useless lmao

[terse lintel]

For one you are spreading your fodder too thin especially in lightbearers.
Id use eironn, lyca, tasi, daimon and nemora

You need to be compact and precise on evolutions

[shrewd sorrel]

well the lyca is temp. so thats a problem den

[terse lintel]

Yeah but idk for how much longer, if less than 24h then yes but if not she will help til he has his own

[shrewd sorrel]

she could use twins instead no? but that makes it harder for her complete progression if its a F2P acc

[terse lintel]

One many should make sure of is their wishlist

[shrewd sorrel]

yes true

[shrewd sorrel]

could u help me on my stage?

[stiff shard]

just unlocked TR, which chars are usually good for it? is it just like guild hunt basically?

[terse lintel]

A bad wishlist will only hold you back

What is your full hero list, think I had to make sure and avoid brutus on that one

@stiff shard it depends on the boss and that one is the toughest of them all, go with what you can and avoid using ult too many time

[stiff shard]

avoid ulting too much for this boss? or in general

[shrewd sorrel]

u rlly dont wnna c mine den haha bcs i had so much luck w summons early stages i had a quick M brutus haha so now im just getting him Ascended bcs im 2 away tho

[terse lintel]

@stiff shard that boss only, the battle ends after 6 ults are used

[stiff shard]

oooof, tysm, was just about to full auto

[terse lintel]

@shrewd sorrel that's fine then just dm it then

[shrewd sorrel]

alt

[urban leaf]

This is my wishlist @terse lintel

[gilded geyser]

What to add/ remove pls dm to respond so i can keep it in mind.

[terse lintel]

@urban leaf

@gilded geyser I would do the shares for wukong, he will get you up there until he is level 100

[shrewd sorrel]

pippa requires lots of investment tho

[gilded geyser]

Okay

[terse lintel]

Yes true but in a team with tasi does wonders

Gives 2 cc's

[gilded geyser]

I had my friend tell me to get him but is labyrinth really the only way to get those coins?

[shrewd sorrel]

yes thats a fact she is really usefull

[terse lintel]

@gilded geyser yes but you should have a event in your event page to do shares to Facebook or Twitter 2 times and get him for free if you're still new

[gilded geyser]

cc?

[gilded geyser]

okay.

[terse lintel]

Crowd controls, like stuns/sleep

@gilded geyser when you do then ditch ulmus for wukong

[stiff shard]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nxgsmdyJed8xJrl0Moc3ZYL3yOrV-mjrpPak2jJUVa0/edit#gid=0

[plain venture]

I don’t know the guy on the lefts name

[stiff shard]

tap on him then

[plain venture]

Wow I didn’t know you could do that thanks

[pale lagoon]

right imo. nvm hope has got ya

[plain venture]

It was right

[pale lagoon]

ok good 🙂

[west hornet]

What do I do

yay someones typing

[pale lagoon]

wukong

rowan
mirael
talene
lyca

yay someones typing ROFL

[west hornet]

@pale lagoon im confused whats the ">" mean

[pale lagoon]

backtop

fronttop
backmid
frontbot
backbot

hopefully that clarifies

yay someones typing

[west hornet]

ok yes ty
LOL

[maiden marsh]

alternatively, if you just say the team in order, that's 1-5 order. the numbers are listed on the ground

[pale lagoon]

but i pref my way, more visual i dont have to think as much megalul

[west hornet]

sorry i forgot to mention mirael and rowan are both borrow so i cant use both

[pale lagoon]

ok, lemme see one second

replace mirael with arthur and put arthus in frontline;
wukong

arthur/talene
rowan
talene/arthur
lyca

[west hornet]

ty

[pale lagoon]

best of luck, i gtg wash a bathroom and then my shift is over :0

[maiden marsh]

in the future, don't take mercenary camps in lab. take as many fights as possible to maximise relics and resource gain. it makes the lab easier and gives you more loot in the end

[pale lagoon]

i shall not waste any more time on discord >:D

[west hornet]

oh ok and also how did you know that i just pick the fountains and shops

[pale lagoon]

because u have an absurd amount of mercs lol, i usually go through lab with like 1, maybe 2, mercs because i have no other path LOL

[maiden marsh]

^

[west hornet]

LOL

[pale lagoon]

also, red and brown banners have same rewards, but red gives better relics, so keep that in mind. red is also harder, in turn.

[west hornet]

ok ty

[maiden marsh]

if you have to choose between two browns or a red, take the two browns

[pale lagoon]

same lab coins, money, hero exp i meant*

[west hornet]

noo my arthur died

[pale lagoon]

mfw i just chose 2 reds > 2 browns

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/f7a0ab1cb66580cda6fb496a56429a6e

[west hornet]

I'm sorry @pale lagoon it's only my fourth day playing

hey someone said "M" i saw it!

[warm swan]

You have a higher combat power than the enemy. I think you'll be fine. But just in case, run it at slow speed and hit pause when your team is about to be wiped out

[west hornet]

ok

@pale lagoon its ok someone helped me
(unless ur talking abt guy above)

[pale lagoon]

M? and dw about. usually you want to put talene in front line because if she dies in lab you can still use her (unless your whole team gets wiped). when she dies she heals your team

just switch her and hogan

also, transition into mirael or saveas as your main carry, post level 100.

[west hornet]

wait POST?

[pale lagoon]

after level 100, until 160. then use daimon/shemira

[west hornet]

alr i have all of the guys u said so thanks

[pale lagoon]

afterwards, you can use shemira or daimon for a long time. eventually shemira will fall off because she just doesnt do enough damage, so daimon is a better investment imo - you will struggle a little bit more because less healing, so you may get stuck a bit more now, but you will progress a lot easier in the future.

typeracer 111wpm pog

[west hornet]

lol ok thanks

[pale lagoon]

yep, feel free to ping/dm me if u need any more help btw 🙂 always free

[west hornet]

alr!

[pale kettle]

Anything I can make to heat this for a quick chest?

[short zephyr]

Hey you dont seem to have a very powerful mercenary , try to head over to #mercenary and see if someone has a saurus to offer with signature item +30

[pale lagoon]

put rowan in

[pale kettle]

@pale lagoon where? And instead of who

[pale lagoon]

i dont think he needs even a +30 saurus. use
lyca

rowan
mirael
mauler lady
guard lady

[pale kettle]

@pale lagoon who do u mean by guard lady, the one on the horse?

[short zephyr]

It's just to make your overall experience better , he could use that saurus for arcane labyrinth/peaks of time/twisted realm once that unlocks and even campaign stages , he is the most flexible unit with incredible value for just 1 mercenary slot for a newer player

[pale kettle]

@pale lagoon Rowan didn't even get to ult

[warm swan]

@pale kettle i think you're gonna be cc'd to death there

[pale kettle]

Yep

[gaunt sleet]

Any suggestions?

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/f7a0ab1cb66580cda6fb496a56429a6e
Feels like it's right on the edge.

[pale lagoon]

fair enough

[pale lagoon]

lyca > nara perhaps

[warm swan]

@pale kettle you can trying mercing a 203 tidus there if any of your guildie has one. It will make short work of those wilders. Other than that, i really can't give any more suggestions based on your hero pool, sorry

[candid talon]

stuck lmk if anyone has a good team comp I could use, also need suggestions for who to put on the resonance crystal

[jagged oasis]

My team gets melted by the belinda and ferael

[timid oxide]

Any ideas how to win this, they wont stop healing

[marsh nymph]

merc an ainz. maybe use gwyneth if u cant

[trim swift]

Trying to push to ch 30 stuck on 29-54, tried with this comp 200+ times any recommendations

[maiden marsh]

side note: make sure nara actually interrupts bats

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/830862995664011274/image0.gif

[trim swift]

Thanks I’ll try that comp and ok

[pale kettle]

btw tru7h would u happen to have ur own ch 29 clears?

[maiden marsh]

yeah, but they're horrifically scuffed

i'm happy to give em if you want em though lol

have to get around to uploading them someday

[pale kettle]

yes plz

[stiff dagger]

Um I started the game today but idk what build I should do

Pls help

[warm swan]

@stiff dagger There's a comprehensive guide pinned on #classic-questions that's specifically made for beginners

[stiff dagger]

Oh ok thanks

[warm swan]

And then when you'd have more clarifications after that, just ask away in the same channel

[pale kettle]

How do I beat this?

[warm swan]

@glossy fern google the peggy trial guide. It's somewhere out there

[trim swift]

Still having trouble with 29-54 any other recommendations?

[maiden marsh]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/
lots of clears here

[trim swift]

I’ve tried a couple of comps on there, but thanks for the recommendation.

[maiden marsh]

what artifacts are you using on everyone?

[trim swift]

I’ve been switching barricade and duras eye out on Daimon.

[maiden marsh]

fera eye
lyca grace/eye
rowan call
daimon call

[stiff shard]

@glossy fern https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/mdf4vx/peggy_raku_bountiful_trial_guide/

[trim swift]

Ok, thanks.

[marsh nymph]

suggestions? been on here for a few days now.

still working on my ainz team. gear, sig, and furn are all trash

[timid goblet]

Could anyone help me with my resonating crystal, ill take them all out if i need to, i have the forest heroes in because i needed them for the peaks of time thing. But now im getting destroyed in this p.o.t. area.

Any advice is welcome, thank you :)

[pale kettle]

Any advice on beating this with 5 heroes of the same class?

[icy parcel]

Suggestions? All my Maulers beside Safiya are E/E+ got crystal slots ready

[pale kettle]

I CANT DO IT!!!

[sacred zephyr]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=15

[pale kettle]

Been on there all day. Just can't quite get it. I also dont understand the formation order.

[ornate eagle]

I have a major defic and I am getting hammered by the Tasi and the athilia.... Any formation ideas?

[maiden marsh]

The deficit isn't the issue, the box is

Ainz looks like your best bet, surround him with some tanks and cc and you should be fine

[ornate eagle]

Okay thanks will give it a shot

[sage spoke]

400 odd days of playing, toons coming along nicely.

Focusing on all the harder to get ones now.

But Izold has been my best performer.

Currently can't make a dent against these though.

[brave oriole]

@sage spoke weird, with this lvl, you should fly

Focus in getting eironn, daimon etc, you don't have a good carry yet, maybe ainz, but he's weak now and no albedo

[sage spoke]

Thanks and will do.

Been flying for the most part, this has just been a clear wall I've hit.

My usual combo and just falls apart.

[maiden marsh]

I merced that stage, it's hard

[brave oriole]

@sage spoke you have to cc eironn and cancel his pull.

[sage spoke]

Merc suggestions?

[brave oriole]

You can try lb, Lucius with some decent gear and dura's call vs eironn would cancel the pull.

[sage spoke]

Will try it out

[brave oriole]

Eironn or daimon as merc, easy to find something +30 etc

[sage spoke]

Shall grab one on the next round the weekend.

Thanks.

[brave oriole]

You should be okay after a few tries, just cancel eironn pull, then add rowan Saurus izold etc etc, until it works

[sage spoke]

And done... Twins pulled through and Izold cleaned up 4 of them.

[brave oriole]

Good 🤓

[pale kettle]

Please help me with this one. I’m stuck

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle try something like
Fawkes
Lucius
Lyca
Rowan
Daimon

[pale kettle]

Unfortunately all my hero’s died with those characters in any line up.

[brave oriole]

Try to use nara to pull oden

[reef vigil]

What could i make?

[obtuse granite]

Need help with who I should focus on next. My lineup is originally belinda, gwyneth, lyca, hogan, and antandra

[pale kettle]

HELP!!!!

[lapis gust]

Do you have Albeado?

[pale kettle]

NOPE

[weary trench]

Can anybody help me with this level?

[amber halo]

Anyone know how to beat 31-56 at high deficits lv 301?

[amber halo]

Why u got ainz but not albedo? 99/100 teams of ainz is with albedo

But using brutus is not a bad idea to stall for ainz

And using rowan brutus ferael tasi or lyca would be a good choice

[shrewd sorrel]

issa pain

[high marlin]

Do you have anyone to pull Ferael?

[amber halo]

Nemora. Pull ferael or use a ferael urself. Lyca should also be fine

I would maybe use brutus lyca tasi ainz and rowan if i was u. Since i don't see albedo or arthur in ur team

[amber halo]

@shrewd sorrel

[chrome elm]

I have been using the formation shemira, flora, rowan, grezhul and thoran
I am quite satisfied
but i would like to maybe replace thoran and grezhul, when there's a better formation i can use where I can still include the other 3

[rancid cloud]

Any recommendations 🙂 ?

[sage spoke]

Realising I need to focus more on my Maulers and now I can't crack the 240 on tower 😂

[amber halo]

Any Artis i should change?

[valid badger]

Any ideas friends?

[vapid field]

Who does Tasi hit? Far or Athalia?

[drowsy locust]

How to pass that Naras?

[proven rock]

help in 29-60 pls

[shrewd sorrel]

didnt rlly work..

[agile roost]

Help

[pale monolith]

Shemira

Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Lorsan

[pale monolith]

Maybe try putting Safyia front row?

[agile roost]

Lorsan gets insta killed

[pale monolith]

He is there for 2 reasons:

1. To link Ghezul and Vedan or Silvina and Shemira
2. To take the hit from Silvina

Maybe try switchinf Shemira's and Lorsan's position

[agile roost]

Okay after silvina and shemira get linked the Isabella gets her ult and my team just gets destroyed

[pale monolith]

Then maybe try putting Ferael instead of Lorsan to drain her energy

[agile roost]

No farael

@pale monolith

[pale monolith]

Crazy

[pale monolith]

Is JOKER necessary there

[cold cosmos]

Any ideas that dont include merc?

[pale kettle]

Where though?

[proven rock]

help for 29-60 pls

[pale monolith]

In your line-up

[cold cosmos]

Athalia on ainz is already a big nono

[pale monolith]

Maybe try putting Brutus to keep Athalia busy

[cold cosmos]

And what is a mythic daimon doing there, can he even ult

[pale kettle]

Got any suggestions?

[cold cosmos]

You prolly need to borrow a bedo

[cold cosmos]

Uhm why is a healer talene on the backrow?

[pale kettle]

Someone told me to try talene back joker front

[cold cosmos]

Bruh no one does that unless if you swap ainz and talene

[pale monolith]

HOW IMPORTANT IS JOKER? CAN YOU DROP HIM?

[cold cosmos]

Lol @pale kettle listen to this, joker is bad

[pale monolith]

From since is JOKER bad

[pale kettle]

I can drop him

[cold cosmos]

Joker is bad for that stage, done.

[pale monolith]

And Dreaf is a carrier

[warm swan]

@cold cosmos seems like a cheese. Ah mb, no Thoran. Ignore me

[pale kettle]

Ainz can't even ult

[pale monolith]

Try:
Ferael

Talene
Brutus
Albedo
Ainz

You gotta build Rowan

[pale kettle]

Still no

I was gonna use swap scroll after I complete chapter 24

[pale monolith]

Then maybe instead of Ferael Lyca

Also for artifacts put Dura's Call only on Ainz

[cold cosmos]

Yup rip

[pale kettle]

I don't have a Lyca

Hello there, I have a problem with this stage and no Idea what to do. I tried a full tank lineup, full dmg and a backline support with tank frontline, but no sucess sadly. I will post my heroes in 2 parts, might take a while because of the slowmode

Did it

[errant notch]

hi what should i use to beat this

[pale monolith]

Hogan, Eironn - Front row;
Saveas, Arden, Tasi/Lyca - Back row;

[pale kettle]

thanks I will try it 😄

[pale monolith]

Got Ferael?

[errant notch]

let me check

nope

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Izold - Front row;
Daimon, Silas, Lyca - Back row;

[errant notch]

Ok ill try it

[pale kettle]

didnt worked out sadly, got obliterated yet again. They manage to kill they first one, then he revives and they just proceed to die

[pale monolith]

When the battle ends, click on the button on the lower right corner and send a picture of what's there

[errant notch]

thanks for the advice , jt worked

[pale monolith]

👍

[warm swan]

@pale kettle anoki shield should be able to block thoran's taint. Slotting in ezizh will disrupt his ult

[pale kettle]

who should I exchange for those two?

[amber halo]

Smth i can do?

[warm swan]

I'm still thinking
The problem is your dmg. You need to burst them quick or else flora will pee you to death

[pale kettle]

😂 alright

isnt there a way to get her down?

[warm swan]

She only goes down when all her allies are dead. Kinda a btch

[pale kettle]

really condescending

[warm swan]

Fk it

Try hogan, anoki, ezizh, sav, arden. Run it at slow speed, and hit pause before your team is dead

[pale kettle]

ok I will try

first one was ezizh, then Hogan, Anoki and sav

Can someone help me to do this in the event?

welcome to the problem zone friend, I am currently having problems with that stage as well

[warm swan]

@pale kettle idk what else to give you. Easiest part is just to get a merc

[pale kettle]

I can show you my merc

[maiden marsh]

[warm swan]

I, I..

[bright sigil]

How on Earth can I do this

[maiden marsh]

Ainz or 5 pull

[hallow kettle]

ferael kills heals too

[bright sigil]

no chance

[hallow kettle]

bring ferael to decimate their healing. maybe replace rowan

[bright sigil]

Ferael was the answer thank u

[hallow kettle]

ferael is always my go to whenever there is just too much healing on the board like nemora and lucius

[warm swan]

@pale kettle dm me your id. I'll add you

[lone wigeon]

Can I get a team? Battles are starting to get harder to win and take multiple tries to beat.

[wheat gate]

Any help?

[wraith venture]

Uhh im stuck anyone know a good team?

[lone wigeon]

Ah yes the typical lineup help channel cycle. Multiple people ask for help, no one helps, then they get completely covered by 10 other people

[maiden marsh]

Try Joker, rowan, albedo, ferael, ainz

[drowsy locust]

no one really have to help everyone)
and maybe there is no one online

[wraith venture]

Alr thx il try

[pale kettle]

help

[wraith venture]

Thx it might work with rng

It worked

[lone wigeon]

^

[lone wigeon]

^

[lone wigeon]

[warm swan]

Why don't you level mirael instead so you can progress in increasing your cap to 160?

[shrewd sorrel]

@brave oriole any recoms?

[primal canopy]

probably gonna want brutus on top front, looks like a lot of pressure on that spot. maybe something like brutus rowan ainz gwyn daimon? how well can your rowan tank

hopefully the gwyn CC can help

[elfin frost]

i would put brutus facing warek, rowan tanking on the other end, ainz at bottom-back, gwyn at the mid and eluard at top-back side, maybe

[shrewd sorrel]

ainz and gwyn can't b in same team they linked

[elfin frost]

gwyn wont do much without arthur/rosa, but she may get some rng stuns so why not

put daimon then. altho he isn't +20 yet

[shrewd sorrel]

alr

[elfin frost]

daimon replacing gwyn, not ainz

[gilded dome]

How?

[brave oriole]

@shrewd sorrel charm ferael?

[shrewd sorrel]

well tried w nemora but she gets 1 shotted by him

[brave oriole]

@shrewd sorrel some better gear, at least shoes for mspd, and call

[shrewd sorrel]

alr so whats a comp she could b in?

[brave oriole]

I would try for testing
Lyca/saurus
Brutus
Ainz
Rowan
Nemora

[shrewd sorrel]

okay

[brave oriole]

But its all about charming ferael, restart if you didn't

[shrewd sorrel]

ight

[sacred drift]

@brave oriole i did it!!!

Also hit rc lvl 240 :))

[shrewd sorrel]

he gets charmed but yeah still no luck

[brave oriole]

@shrewd sorrel then don't mind with him, replace nem with daimon

@sacred drift gz

[shrewd sorrel]

ooohhh its better w

Ainz
>brutus
rowan
>saurus
nemora

bcs saurus deals damage to far bcs taurus turns his back to farael 🦝

taurus turns his back to saurus*

[brave oriole]

Try for a sec fawk instead of nemora

He may coffin ferael and slow golus

And maybe you lucky to remove Brutus shield

[shrewd sorrel]

alr imma try

ati for fawk?

[brave oriole]

Doesn't matter much, mostly for acc to not fail the coffin, you can swap also ainz and rowan, just to see if ainz ult faster

[shrewd sorrel]

alrr

[brave oriole]

If anything, make the Backline fawk rowan ainz, so ainz would be far from Brutus

[amber halo]

Someone help with thoran cheese

[brave oriole]

Hard to cheese rowan

[amber halo]

I tried with arti on rowan and without

A guy did it lv 299 i just don't know his artifact choices and his thoran was only mythic

[brave oriole]

U can tap on his hero for a sec and see the artifact

If it's in suggested fights

[amber halo]

I only got the ss I'm not friends with him ingame xD

[brave oriole]

Only use call on thoran anyway

Rowan chalice or something else, and I guess that you have to let thoran die and then ultimate, if he's doing the ultimate before to die once won't do the second

[amber halo]

In any case he die before ult on auto. But alright

[brave oriole]

Sometimes it's hard with thoran merc, less mspd bcs no faction shoes, not a lot less, but sometimes it matters

[amber halo]

Alright

[lone wigeon]

^

2 hours yay

[brave oriole]

@lone wigeon well, its hard with eironn without lyca. I would not recommend to start with full Wilders, go for daimon or so. With your current heroes, I think that Pippa would do more dmg than eironn so swap their lvls. And stop making legendary heroes, keep everything elite+, until you have a plan on ascensions, so you only ascend one from each faction or so.

[bright sleet]

hi, can anyone help me? please

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle I could easy win with Belinda this stage, if i remember right.
It was something like,
Safiya
Lucius
Rowan or arden, can't remember exactly
Rosa
Belinda eye
So you can replace Lucius with something else and try on, Belinda should one hit Thane athalia anyway

@bright sleet try Brutus instead of tasi, put chalice on rowan, and call on daimon

[civic beacon]

Struggling with this one.. Ainz gets off one ult at most.

[bright sleet]

I don’t have a good brutus

[brave oriole]

@civic beacon nara can't pull ainz, so move down Arthur ainz, and replace lyca with nara to pull mehira or ferael

@bright sleet nvm if good or not, he do the same thing

[bright sleet]

oh thanks, i'll try

[civic beacon]

I’ve tried Arthur Ainz at the bottom with ferael at the top.. But basically same result. Maybe I will try unlinking Arthur - Nara so that I can use both

[brave oriole]

Yeah, I suggest it, you need for mehira this nara

What I've used in my alt, I could find one ss

[gilded geyser]

Not sure what to use.

[civic beacon]

@brave oriole thanks.. I did end up using a merc talene and managed to pass it..

[summer cedar]

good start. I recommend reading the pins in #classic-questions. for now wu kong will carry you, put a lot of levels into him.

[gilded geyser]

Yeah i just got him to lvl 76

[dapper egret]

Currently running Rowan, thoran, shemira, daimon and rosaline, I can legendary thoran or shemira. Daimon is a trial so I currently don’t know who to replace him with once he’s gone

[gilded geyser]

@summer cedar if i have both rosa and mirael what should i put them.

[glacial ingot]

Hi guys, is it good if I exchange dimensional stones for Ainz? I will get Ainz forever by that way right?

[summer cedar]

typically mira position 4. rosa's position is flexible.
mirael's ult does more damage near the center of her aoe is why

[gilded geyser]

Okay so Rosa 5 Mira 4 Wukong 1 And Hogan 2?

[summer cedar]

sounds good to me

[gilded geyser]

okay

[summer cedar]

• nobody goes L. read the pins in #classic-questions
• saveas carry will be your best bet

[gilded geyser]

@summer cedar ??

[dapper egret]

Saveas? He good?

[summer cedar]

what's the problem? looks fine

[gilded geyser]

just asking if it was good

[summer cedar]

yes. read the pins in #classic-questions

[dapper egret]

Oh I never bothered looking at him because tier list said c tier for him, imma check him out

[summer cedar]

tier lists in this game tend to be really poor bc they lack context and at times, are made by idiots. ask in #classic-questions if not sure how good a hero is - at the very least, it'll spark discussion and you'll get a better idea

[dapper egret]

Well, shemira stepped up her damage when I removed Daimon, saveas did... about as good as lyca does for me

[obtuse granite]

Any suggestions on who I should focus next? My team is currently

[summer cedar]

if you're still using shem, you clearly have not read the pins like I asked. until you do, I'm not answering anymore.

ascension questions belong in #classic-questions

[dawn ermine]

ah right sorry!

[gilded geyser]

@summer cedar i just got raine should i swap anything?

[summer cedar]

nope. read the pins in #classic-questions too

[dapper egret]

@summer cedar so this setup?

[mellow swan]

@glacial ingot yes and no, by using garrison stones after you have garrisoned ainz 6 times he won’t cost stones to borrow for the month but you still have to borrow him from someone

[jovial mango]

if you exchange for him 5 times he will be usable without shards as long as the person allows u to use him. but yes definitely get an ainz

[dapper egret]

This is the recommended heroes according to the questions pins so if there’s any problems let me know

[reef vigil]

What could i make?

[mellow swan]

Wukong, Lucius, tasi miriael, rosaline

Lucius and wukong in front

[reef vigil]

Ok

Who goes first

[mellow swan]

Can put Lucius infront of Brutus

Mireal needs to be in the back center since she aoes the whole area

[reef vigil]

Ok

[mellow swan]

Can also swap out tasi or roseline for estrilda if need be

[reef vigil]

Ok

[warm swan]

Why do you have a bunch of lvl 2s there
And a 6th lvl 100 hero

[dapper egret]

I’d assume the level 2 is for sorting but the 6th level 100 idk lol

[summer cedar]

better. since saveas isn't L+ yet, u need 2 tanks, so try thoran skreg saveas rowan lyca

[opaque gale]

I think mirael is my highest damage character and therefore my carry, what is the best team I can make for say campaign?

[dapper egret]

Well, it seems not to work so well currently

[opaque gale]

What I'm currently up against

[summer cedar]

u misread my message. rowan 4 lyca 5

altho for this particular stage u might consider mirroring as well. there's no one comp that beats all

[dapper egret]

Why did that make such a big difference?

[summer cedar]

so rowan has a skill that provides health potions. his positioning at 4 means everyone can drink from the pot, but if he's in position 5, position 1 and 3 can't drink it - out of range

[dapper egret]

Well his potion count is only 3

I don’t have enough dust to get his restock ability

[sly talon]

Help.

[summer cedar]

that's fine for now. point is, in your original formation, Saveas couldn't drink the pot, and he needs it to stay alive.

[dapper egret]

So tree, my shemira is elite+ and I have fodder to legendary her, and at day 7 of sign in I get an elite+ copy of her so I could guaranteed legendary + her

[summer cedar]

don't bother. shem's not that good. also belongs in #classic-questions. until lvl 160, stick w saveas

[dapper egret]

I just asked here because I didn’t want to make you swap around channels like that

[summer cedar]

there are other ppl that can help

[dapper egret]

You already know my situation tho so it’s easier

Would it be worth to spend lab coins on a thoran copy and legendary+ him?

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions for advice. your roster will struggle for a long time if u don't make the corrections explained there.

[sly talon]

I've read them like 10 times, I don't seem to understand.

[coarse ermine]

Hello! any ideas for a line up? i block in the campaign...

[dapper egret]

My understanding of it is a carry, a tank, and 3 supports. It says certain heroes and I’m sure they’re the best, but there are other options if you don’t have them I’d assume

[sly talon]

In my situation, Lucius is tank, Shemira is carry. And then rosaline, gwyneth, and rowan are supports.

[summer cedar]

gwyn is not a support. u need to stop making L heroes

[sly talon]

Wait. So is gwyn a carry?

@summer cedar Hello?

[summer cedar]

gwyn is awkward. her main role is dps but this early, she does not have the skills to properly carry. neither does shem tbh, but at least better than gwyn.

[sly talon]

Then should I just not use her?

[summer cedar]

u shud use what I wrote in #classic-questions

[sly talon]

I'm not level 100-160 yet. How about you just tell me what the best lineup I can build out of this?

[warm swan]

You are exactly in lvl 100-160. Bob was talking about your hero levels

[sly talon]

I don't have Mirael or Savas though. Bruh.

[warm swan]

That's why bob told you to build them

[sly talon]

Wait.

I have copies of Saveas. I can make him Legendary, but should I do it?

[dapper egret]

You can make him legendary + mate

[sly talon]

But should I do it?

[warm swan]

^ you can bring saveas and that poor angelo there to 160

[sly talon]

I don't have enough fairy dust. And I'm using Angelo as fodder for Rowan.

[sly talon]

Should I acsend Saveas to Legendary+?

[dapper egret]

Mate the goal is to have 5 fodder heroes at high level

[warm swan]

You need 5 heroes at L+. You need to break your lvl cap. Else you're gonna get stuck at 160

[dapper egret]

So all your guys can have the high level stats without having to be ascended to that level

I’m far from doing it but you’re not that far from it

[sly talon]

I-. I'm going to acsend Saveas to L+, and then reset Shemira, so I have materials to level up Saveas?

Is that what I'm supposed to be doing?

[dapper egret]

Saveas and shemira did similar damage for me but shemira is highly inconsistent in my experience

[warm swan]

I'd reset that shem and lucius and put all lvls to sav and angelo

[dapper egret]

Saveas is constant damage compared to Shems ult only damage

[sly talon]

So I would have Angelo and Saveas frontline?

[dapper egret]

Angelo is just for level increasing

[warm swan]

^

[sly talon]

Then who is going to be my tank....

[dapper egret]

You want 5 heroes that aren’t good to bring the level of everyone else up to them

[warm swan]

You can use shem all you want, just put her on the crystal slots

[sly talon]

Then is Saveas going to be my tank.....

[dapper egret]

The resonating crystal ignores hero tier and brings them to the level

[warm swan]

My guy, your first order of business is to have L+ heroes on your crystal

[dapper egret]

You don’t have to use the heroes but saveas is pretty nice

These guys (not specifically any fodder) will be your highest tier and highest level heroes

[sly talon]

Everybody is L+ other than Lucius, and I don't have any L+'s.

[dapper egret]

The resonating crystal will bring your other guys to the high level

I messed mine up because I didn’t know to do that

So I have been screwing myself in the long run

[sly talon]

I'm just flat out confused now.

[warm swan]

Let's take that lucius for example. Everybody is L+ you said right, except for him, because you need two more copies for him. So right now, your max level is gonna be based on lucius, which is gonna be 140.

[sly talon]

Well, Gwyneth and Rosaline are both 120 because I ran out of fairy dust.

[warm swan]

No, we talking about max level.

[sly talon]

Alright.

[warm swan]

You ran out of dust, which you will eventually get anyway. But those 2 lucius copies that you need to ascend him to L+? That's gonna take a long time

[sly talon]

I already have one copy of elite lucius.

[warm swan]

Good for you. Hopefully you can say the same for the 2nd one

[sly talon]

I honestly just need to know what my lineup should be..

[warm swan]

You have almost the same levels as your enemies.

[sly talon]

So I have to level them up? Should I level Rosaline or Gwyneth first..

[brave oriole]

@sly talon the team, until lvl 240,consists in one carry overlvled, and supports tanks etc.

[sly talon]

I'm gonna stash up on fairy dust.
I didn't think it was important until now....

[weary trench]

Can anybody give me pointers to beat this level?

[marsh nymph]

brutus in front of hogan and rowan in front of tasi

[brave oriole]

@weary trench
Eironn
Rowan
Daimon
Brutus
Lyca

[wet meadow]

I need help so I can do a 10x and 60 stones

[brave oriole]

@wet meadow mhm, kinda bad to pull Brutus, but try
Ferael
Tasi
Eironn
Rowan chalice
Ainz
Restart if rowan dies on saveas until he won't. And if tasi cannot tank, replace with Brutus, and ferael with lyca or so

[wet meadow]

Ok

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle Rosa follows gwyn?

[pale kettle]

yeah

[brave oriole]

Then try
Rosa
Arthur
Gwyn
Rowan
Lyca or ferael with some good gear, to dodge on athalia

[bold meteor]

I'm hard stuck

I could get the trial raju or trial peggy still as well

[brave oriole]

Mmmm, hard stage

[bold meteor]

Yea :/

I could use a merc as well but I would need to request one from a friend

[brave oriole]

@bold meteor try
Daimon
Rowan
Eironn
Brutus
Tasi lyca or safiya

[bold meteor]

Rowan and brutus front right

[brave oriole]

Yeah

Try lyca first, so silvina jumps on rowan and get pulled by eironn

[bold meteor]

Lyca?? And also my brutus is E

[brave oriole]

Doesn't matter, just to tank a few sec shem

And lyca for haste buff

[bold meteor]

Ok so who do I switch for lyca

[bold meteor]

Also this failed miserably I'm gonna try lyca instead of tasi and I just saw ur edit

[brave oriole]

So front rowan Brutus down, back top daimon eironn lyca

[bold meteor]

Ok it worked XD tysm

[brave oriole]

Np

[bold meteor]

@brave oriole I'm stuck again... can I get some more help please .-.

[brave oriole]

You will always get stuck🤓. Try
Daimon
Eironn
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca

[bold meteor]

Kk ty

Took a few tries but it worked tysm!

[brave oriole]

Np

[ember token]

i been stuck here for at least a week now, any ideas to help?

[peak forge]

umm in new to da game and i dont know what chars to use

[pale kettle]

Any help? Since I started a new account?

[brave oriole]

@ember token try eironn front of Vedan, and you don't need tasi i guess. Would be good also Saurus back of eironn, as about safiya, if she doesn't fit, replace with ferael or else

[pale monolith]

Read the pins in #classic-questions , you will find everything you need there

[pale kettle]

I'm on chapter 29-50. Based on the heroes I have, should I keep juicing the mage branch?

[brave oriole]

No, mage is weak. Do celerity support

[pale lagoon]

I gave you a lineup earlier m8;
Wukong

Hogan/Rowan
Lyca
Tidus
Tasi/Arden

[pale monolith]

JOKER/Safyia

Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Eironn

[cosmic mountain]

who in the front line?

[pale monolith]

The ones with >

[summer cedar]

https://preview.redd.it/0gnqcg450t661.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=246286fa4ce1469457c51a97fb3bab618bac307f

[cosmic mountain]

nah got insta deleted

[pale monolith]

Thinked that maybe Brutus would've held Athalia and Rowan should've been able to survive with boots&weapon. Also Safyia is always used with Eironn

[proven echo]

Hard stuck on this, any advice? Tried Brutus in place of izold

[pale kettle]

Someone pls dm me I need help I'm stuck on 22-32

[maiden marsh]

Have you tried https://afkhelper.nax.is/ ?

[pale kettle]

I'll try ty

I don't have those rarities in those characters

How are they using epic+ and epic and legendary characters and beating this

Wtf

[maiden marsh]

Because those elite heroes work at elite. Brutus, lyca, etc work fine at low ascensions

[pale kettle]

What

The stats are low they die in 1 hit

[maiden marsh]

Brutus can't die in one hit, and you don't care if lyca dies in one hit

[hexed moon]

Someone help pls Shemira is annoying

[pale kettle]

Help me get to chap 30

[proven echo]

Every comp I try just insta dies, am I just going to be hard stuck until I get 5k more dust for daimon?

[nocturne furnace]

u can try:
rowan, arthur
ferael(can try lyca as well), gwyn, rosa