lineup-help

[twilit mango]

I've tried 50 times lol, should i stop?

[pale monolith]

Daimon

Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Ferael

[inland egret]

@north dragon just use default formation 👍

[twilit mango]

How many times should I try

[pale monolith]

69

[north dragon]

@inland egret can u give me a typical default rotation for the chars i have

[twilit mango]

O

[pale monolith]

How would I know

[north dragon]

not that one

[inland egret]

default eironn comp
lyca
tasi
eironn
rowan
safiya

[pale monolith]

You really need to change carriers

[north dragon]

Idk if it will even work for certain levels tho

me or?

[inland egret]

you

[north dragon]

I have eironn tho

i thought he was one of the best

[pale monolith]

Eironn is good but you need SI and good gear

[north dragon]

SI 30?

how busted does he become at that point?

[inland egret]

ppl use ainz just by clicking start battle have 200 lvl cap 👍

[pale monolith]

Ainz needs +30 and 9/9 to have 200 lvl cap

[inland egret]

yes

[north dragon]

Do I even have use for belinda anymore?

[pale monolith]

Yes ofcourse

Linking material to Ainz and Tower of Light but she will stall fall off there as well

Btw it's really difficult to change carriers and Eironn might not be working at first

[north dragon]

i have belinda at 740k power

[pale monolith]

Crazy

[inland egret]

@pale monolith eironn comp depends on random

[pale monolith]

Idk never used Eironn

[north dragon]

but my belinda died so fast

[pale monolith]

Because Belinda sucks after Ch22-ish

[inland egret]

(everywhere)

[pale monolith]

No

I used her for 15 chapters then switched to Ainz and I had Belinda at E+ whole everyone had their carriers at L+

[oblique arch]

With this box what would be my best line up for wizz / soren / tr ?

[inland egret]

@oblique arch merc saurus

[oblique arch]

Cheers

[pale monolith]

Innit

[real schooner]

The 4th fight of 34-4 is hard 😫 any advice? 1 wins with Ainz, 2 wins with Daimon, 3 wins with Eironn, 5 wins with Gwyn

[inland egret]

@real schooner merc luc 🤝
swap rhoran cheese with another team if this is difficult

[real schooner]

Don't need to do a cheese on that level, do I have any other lines I can use with my box besides Ainz, Eironn, or Daimon? (I can try switching Gwyn to battle 4). Izold isn't quite ready to cheese yet only 203

[inland egret]

@real schooner if u have gwyn 203(idk enough or no )

[real schooner]

Ah there we go, I had to swap out one of the supports in Gwyn's comp with some extra damage (used Joker) and she barely made it. Then the cheese worked a lot better on the 5th battle. Thanks @inland egret

[fickle tree]

Halp plz

[real schooner]

I'd try putting Eironn in the frontline instead of Brutus then swap Brutus with Tidus or Sapfiya. You could also try Ainz in the center since he can't get teleported at the start iirc.

[fickle tree]

I tried everything. Everything just dies lmao. My Ainz is too weak. I have 0 gear for mages other than t1 mauler set for Safiya

[inland egret]

eironn with lyca cant pull out faster thn keltur swap him?

[fickle tree]

Nop

[inland egret]

as i remember he can

[fickle tree]

Even with call

Gets swapped midnway, turns around and then pulls

[real schooner]

Your win condition is keeping Daimon alive, so Eironn on the bottom side is good since it hopefully keeps Feral away from him. Aside from that, maybe put Brutus in front of Daimon instead of Rowan. Could also put Rowan center as a sacrificial lamb since his cart stays on the field after he dies.

[inland egret]

oh he have daimond lol it looks much easier

[fickle tree]

Yeah, but when Kelthur one shots him xd not so easy

[inland egret]

u dont have ferael?

[fickle tree]

M+ only missing 1 copy :/

Guess i will just wait until i get like 20 more lvls and Ainz comp xd soon +30 albedo, need 15 frags for Arthur

[small cove]

Any suggestions? I don't do enough damage, I have a free slot on the resonating crystal

[opaque gale]

Can I beat 7-40 with my units?

[pale monolith]

Please understand that we do not have memorised all the stages
Try:
Hogan, Lucius - Front row;
Lyca, Rowan, Daimon- Back row;

[opaque gale]

My bad, was about to SS it

[tired galleon]

I pushed all of 20 today. Can't keep my Daimon alive in the last fight of the chapter #feelsbadman
Any ideas?

[pale monolith]

Ferael

Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

Send stats

[mellow swan]

We need to see what you’ve got to work with

Just send a screen shot of your whole hero box

[brazen sable]

Can anyone help me get past level 17-39? I'm on laptop so I can't send pics but I have a Mythic+ Shemira, Mythic Erionn, Mythic Belinda, Mythic Rowan, Legendary+ Nemora, Elite+ Talene, and an Elite+ Peggy (Everyone not mythic is level 160)

[mellow swan]

Your doing the server event one correct @pale kettle ?

[pale kettle]

Is there a good endgame comp with arthur? Without other dims

[maiden marsh]

gwyn comp is where arthur usually goes without ainz, or raku once you build him is my theory

[pale kettle]

Ok so gwyn DOES have a use endgame

[maiden marsh]

she has a use, but usually arthur is stolen by someone less terrible like ainz

[pale kettle]

Ok so gwyn is a poor man's ainz

[maiden marsh]

they don't really do the same thing but yes ainz is better than gwyn 99% of the time

hence why I recommend garrisoning ainz asap

[pale kettle]

Ty for the tips

[mellow swan]

Put the Brutus up against the thoran, Lucius against anoki, either use the merc Belinda or shemira, with rosaline, and estrilda, you’ll have either the 2/3 faction bonus or the 4 faction bonus depending on which merc you use and just keep retrying till you win

@pale kettle

Exit out if it looks like your gonna party wipe and restart the fight for rng

[vital pine]

Hey! Could anyone help me come up with some formations?

[pale kettle]

Is numizu ever a better hero than rowan? Like, if I'm told to use nimuzu, couldn't I just use rowan?

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/dbae1a5cd2c85a0570f038509b718288

[valid timber]

iirc numisu is mostly for mauler tower, so, no. sorry for the late reply

[hexed moon]

2nd part very hard for me 1st one was easy

[pale kettle]

can someone make a team out of these?

[west fog]

I feel like that athalia is super unhealthy for my arthur. I can still trial period raku and peggy, and have 3 slots to borrow from as well. How can I make this stage easier?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240664435629228032/830246271104712724/unknown.png

[west fog]

do I just need to finish albedo+30 first??

[errant notch]

can help make team pls

[lone wigeon]

Level up eironn, saveas, and arden

[pale kettle]

who should be in my team?

[errant notch]

Ok

[lone wigeon]

Wukong get high-level, NEVER EVER level up any green heroes, also tip: ascend heroes when you get a copy, so just ascend gwyneth, level her too, and then use hogan, arden and lyca.

Now, who should I put in my team?

[pale kettle]

@lone wigeon why should i use blue heroes?

[lone wigeon]

Because green heroes are literal garbage

[pale kettle]

i know, i leveled my green one when i only had 4 heroes. but why not use purple heroes?

[lone wigeon]

And also theyre just good for a pretty long time

Purple heroes are good, but you also dont just want like 4 tanks and 1 support

Because later on you want to use all purple heroes, but for now, just fill the roles you need to fill with blue heroes and/or purple heroes

[pale kettle]

mhm okay

ty

[lone wigeon]

I'm not exactly the most knowledgeable though, because I'm only in chapter 7, so take everything I said with a grain of salt

[lone wigeon]

But really someone help me pls

[worthy steeple]

I wanna say Mirael, Eironn, Lucious, rowan, rosaline

Lucious Erionn frontline, rowan middle back

[lone wigeon]

What about mirael being in the middle for her ultimate?

[worthy steeple]

You could do rowan instead of eironn frontline and do mirael middle back

[lone wigeon]

Ok

[marsh nymph]

help pls. eironn succ dies way too much damage

[tired pagoda]

can anyone help me with this level? i wanna finish it so i can start to stagaze but i cant get past the levl (and yes I have too many L heroes and i messed that up)

[silent wave]

Vedan

[dire kernel]

should i focus on building signature item for ainz or eironn? my ainz is garrisoned

[pale kettle]

rowan

[summer cedar]

u shud read the pins in #classic-questions. too many L heroes. ascend any 5 fodder.

[heavy hare]

Ermahgerd

Charles is just trolling you

But appreciate the offer of assistance

[high marlin]

Any ideas

[hexed moon]

Isabella also ascended nkw

[pale kettle]

Tips

[livid crown]

Any ideas? Dm please!

[empty ibex]

Been stuck here for a few days. The only one getting low is Golus but he won't die, Ulmus is invincible (with his ult) and 1v1s Daimon once he ults, Tasi vanishes Daimon and Nemora shields + heals so no enemies die. Any ideas?

[high marlin]

Anything? Jw

[wary cedar]

Been at this for like 50 tries

[maiden marsh]

replace nara for lyca

[wary cedar]

Damn worked like a charm
Thx 👌

[pale monolith]

Try replacing Ferael with Lorsa

[pale monolith]

There is no reason to use Albedo without Signature Item. Try:
Ainz

Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Ferael/Lyca

[proven echo]

What is the best team I can use rn?

[pale monolith]

Izold, Brutus - Front row;
Rowan, Mirael, Lya - Back row;

[proven echo]

Thank you

[pale monolith]

👍

[proven echo]

They die so fast am I just hard stuck for now?

[pale kettle]

which ones shall i use and upgrade because im stuck and cant do anything anymore

[viscid pine]

go to #classic-questions and read the guide pins, will help you a lot in building your team and avoiding mistakes

[pale monolith]

Put Brutus in front of Vedan and maybe Ferael instead of Lyca if you got him

[pale kettle]

@viscid pine i have to upgrade like that right?

only with same hero copies

[viscid pine]

doesn't have to be the same heroes, any other Elite+ fodders will do

[pale kettle]

okay thanx

[viscid pine]

I think it would be better to get Mirael first, you need a carry.

[pale kettle]

alright

[digital flower]

Been stuck for a while, any way I can make my line-up better?

[viscid pine]

Start getting Rowan to Mythic to get his +30 SI. Also stop ascending heroes you won't use to Legend.

[brave oriole]

@digital flower no point to use queen, since albedo it's not +20si. Lucius with call may be better as a tank

[heavy trail]

hi i'm not sure which formation i should use for this stage!! been stuck here for a while now

[scenic patrol]

Hi i am new to afk arena and discord server and i have a question? I have a fairly large team in 1 week of play and I just pack saurus should I replace one of

[brave oriole]

@heavy trail something wrong with your heroes, did you lvled more than 5?you shouldn't. Reset all and keep the top 5 ones, and then add the exp on shemira

[brave oriole]

@strong badge remove Brutus, put eironn front and lyca back, and swap daimon ferael

[strong badge]

Even though I'm getting better results it isn't working

Ferael and eironn have eye
Daimon and rowan has call

[brave oriole]

Well, its not rlly necessary eironn, rowan use chalice 99%, you can just use nara to pull ferael if you want so and put lyca front top

[dusky sentinel]

Last stage in Ch25, wanna get FoS Bonus for this lab but can't beat it :S

[brave oriole]

@dusky sentinel eironn may need call on this

[dusky sentinel]

You mean for the initial pull? So far he's doing it fine in that regard. I seem to lack enough dmg/he is too tanky.
I also had problems with Ezith in other stages, I wonder if "running away" from him and going for Lucius might be better.
Meanwhile I write this I keep retrying lol

[brave oriole]

Not for pull, but for doing his ultimate faster, before of ezizh

[strong badge]

Ty it worked

[brave oriole]

Np

@dusky sentinel have you tried tidus, to see if he can cc ezizh?

[dusky sentinel]

Welp just did it after retrying more. Same setup than original ^^. I've rewatched a couple of times and ezith never ultied before Eiron, it was his 3rd skill than prevented the ults. Didn't get to try tidus in that stage

[brave oriole]

Well, tasi it's not necessary I guess, she banish Khasos and he doesn't take eironn dmg at all

[dusky sentinel]

On paper though, tasi ult > Eiron ult, right? I mean in the sense of having 2 calls delays both ults. I've been wondering this a lot in boss fights were ppl say double call on twins and vampire is good but I'm not getting good numbers. Maybe it works with lvl 4 call but not lvl 3?

[wet peak]

any idea?

[brave oriole]

Well, eironn need spcly vs ezizh call, doesn't hurt tasi, just don't use call on rowan too, chalice its fine @dusky sentinel

@wet peak well, ferael tank athalia with shroud.

[wet peak]

sorry i was about to say rngesus just smiled at me and somehow no1 died in my team

[dusky sentinel]

Double call means less regen from the first buff though. Is chalice a better defensive relic than grace? I had been using grace on rowan, but have both

[brave oriole]

It is for rowan

[heavy trail]

oh okay thank you!

[dusky sentinel]

mm, interesting. Is it because he usually doesn't receive external heals so dodge from grace doesn't excel that much? Or what makes chalice better on rowan and grace better on other chars

[heavy trail]

@brave oriole ty i passed the stage :) i'm still fairly new to this type of game so anything helps haha

[hidden cobalt]

Is the deficit just to high or do I have a chance somewhere ?

[brave oriole]

You should be able to pass this @hidden cobalt
Try
Rowan
Daimon
Rosaline
Brutus
Talene if have

But you can swap Brutus talene to see how's better, talene dying by athalia would be diff if killed by Thane

[kindred wagon]

Any ideas how to improve my team? Is Shemira better dps? Should I reset anyone? I can make legendary Lightbearer and Mauler

[gentle turtle]

Im Looking to build a good Main lineup for most content. Right now im mostly running full "element" Lineups ( 5 maulers, 5 Lightbearers and stuff, whatever they are strong against), which works fine but isnt ideal from what i heard but i have no idea what even makes a good Team and stuff so i cant really do it myself and have to wing it

Oh. For that matter, these are my currwnt lineups

how far can i even get with what i have rn? im kinda stuck in chapter 12

[shrewd sorrel]

recommendations??

[brave oriole]

@shrewd sorrel
Rosaline
Brutus
Gwyneth
Saurus
Rowan

[shrewd sorrel]

thx

[brave oriole]

Swap Brutus Saurus

You can also put gwyn bottom Backline

[shrewd sorrel]

oki

[hidden cobalt]

@brave oriole any other suggestions sort of not working

daimon doesnt even ult sometimes

got it swapped daimon to the back and front lined rowan rosa helped daimon double ult

[indigo widget]

Been stuck on this stage for a bit while trying to ascend my characters, any suggestion on how I can get past it without ascending cuz that gonna take a while xD

Other characters I have are these

[warm swan]

@indigo widget maybe ditch Ainz. Actually ditch Joker as well. And run Lucius, Tasi, Silas, Rowan, Daimon

[indigo widget]

@warm swan alright, thank you 😀

[agile roost]

Help stuck on this stupid stage

[inland egret]

@agile roost
lyca
brutus
rosa
lucius
ainz

[slender blade]

How can i win this? Or should i start over? It’s the Fallen Souls Trial.
Orthros heals so much and obviously Thalene doesn’t help here.

That’s my difficulty

[inland egret]

@slender blade

you can remove taking damage debuff(for team)
and dealing dmg (saurus) if u cant kill some teams

[slender blade]

Okay thanks :)

[hushed rover]

What team do i use and what position?

[ruby drift]

Line up help pls

[proud otter]

Does anyone have any tips for this?

Sylvina destroys anyone I replace Brutus with

[next crown]

I'm stuck right here. Who should I Use?

[native grotto]

Ezio
Brutus
Eironn
Lyca
Ferael

Maybe? Put chalice on eironn and ferael

Should be a 5 pull

[proud otter]

Hmmm not sure if that seems to be helping. Silvina pretty much 1shots ferael

[agile roost]

Help

[proud otter]

Sweet I actually got close
Replaced Brutus with Estrilda for the back line defense

Hmm might have gotten lucky that time

[rapid sage]

I can't get past this one for a few days now, everyone is dead so quickly and 1 Ainz ult isn't enough

[dusty token]

help plz

[agile roost]

Use shemira instead of ainz imo

[rapid sage]

Same team line-up? @agile roost

[agile roost]

Which one?

[native grotto]

Ferael front row then, we're looking at eironn pulling everyone in the middle

[native grotto]

Yo 3* shemira with all l+s ? How

[rapid sage]

I tried shem but it ended the same way, both her and ainz are dealing 0 dmg now and idk why, in the previous like 10 stages Ainz was destroying and I went from 15-1 to 15-40 in 1 day

[rapid sage]

idk lmao got a lot of copies for free + had her on my list and got lucky I guess

[native grotto]

Because feraels shíts on mages

[rapid sage]

hmm

so how do I do it

[native grotto]

Best bet is to wait untill today reset and merc a string eironn

Because that's a pretty impossible stage to beat with your lineup

[dusty token]

ok

[rapid sage]

and put eironn instead of Ainz? @native grotto

[native grotto]

I beat it with these on my alt

[rapid sage]

that's impossible for me to get as of now, rip

[native grotto]

Just merc a +30 eironn and slap him in there

[dusty token]

fereal is op

[native grotto]

Another one of my alts

[rapid sage]

Like this but with the +30 eironn?

[native grotto]

Nah put him where Lucius is so he pulls both ferael and Isabella

[pale kettle]

Help please

[placid sorrel]

Need help for a friend, hes up against 5 talenes in the forest escapade

[native grotto]

Replace brutus with talene and put tasi back and talene front

Ainz
Brutus
Rowan
Talene
Tasi

[native grotto]

Ainz it

[native grotto]

Yeah, just get a strong eironn and he'll bust

[placid sorrel]

Yeah we told him that but I think all of the guilds ainz's are being used.

[rapid sage]

thanks for all the help man 🥺 @native grotto

[pale kettle]

@native grotto thanks, but i tried it like 10-20times and didnt work, but good one

[native grotto]

Wait for mercs tbh man, or waste hours like me

[native grotto]

What's his comp like, Ideally talenes are easy if you one shot them

[hallow stag]

Read Grez’s Demonic Assault skill, he has a -50% damage reduction on hit, and +25% increase on damage taken. Don’t put your carry across from him

I just finished ch. 15 a few days ago, here’s basically what I used:

Just gotta make sure you a) deal with Isabella before she goes off, b) don’t put your carry in front of Grezhul

[placid sorrel]

Thats his line up

[rapid sage]

damn I didn't know all this, thanks for the tips, I'll try your team too see how that works

[hallow stag]

Nara helps a lot with Isabella because pulling her into your damage dealers will make them target her faster. They are re-tuning her damage in campaign and tower in the next patch, but before then you have to make sure she doesn’t ult.

[agile roost]

Idk then ermm try the formation that you used on stage 37

[unreal plover]

Please help

[safe ridge]

Help

[hollow hatch]

@safe ridge swap shemira for nara

[safe ridge]

@hollow hatch nope, double grove flips over front and one shots her

[raw rune]

she's just to interrupt mehira's bats

[gray rune]

Any tips here? Even Lucretia merc can't seem to beat it, unless I'm using her wrong

[brave oriole]

@gray rune charm ferael

So try something like
Eironn
Lyca
Ainz
Rowan
Nemora or tasi if you want so

But all in all, I would link albedo with something ascended, the chicken or something else

@lofty cairn put rowan front of ainz, and instead of talene put eironn or so, in middle

[pale kettle]

Any tips?

[brave oriole]

Try
Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius with call
Ainz eye or so

[gray rune]

I see, I'll try that. Albedo is still just +20, still worth bringing to ascended urgently? I hardly use her in campaign

[brave oriole]

@gray rune have you read albedo si description?

[languid skiff]

stuck at this one, any idea what lineup would work? >_<

[gray rune]

Yes. But the defense hardly seemed to make a difference at least without arthur

[brave oriole]

@languid skiff
Lyca
Brutus/lyca/talene
Rowan
Saurus
Eironn

[languid skiff]

thank you so much!

[potent shale]

Need help on this pls

[pale kettle]

Please help me beat this idiot vedan, i hate him

This is insane... can't beat this at all :( any ideas?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle need Brutus front up

[pale kettle]

Why poor Ainz front? 🥺

[gray rune]

A rule of thumb, never put your dps right in front of grezhul. He'll steal their attack rating and tank your damage

Also doesn't help that grez just straight up reduces teamwide magic damage by like half, but if you don't have other carries I guess there's not much to be done about that

[pale kettle]

Pretty sure that saurus with +30 can solo it 😂

[brave oriole]

@timid fern you mean who to focus on?well,rowan iss okay, then daimon ferael, Saurus eironn lyca tasi, safiya tidus skreg and so on

It's all about your wishlist since you just started

Well, shemira is l and one copy, she's close to l+, so I would use shemira for a while. Meanwhile save guild coins and lab coins and get ainz albedo from some friend, from garrison.

[craggy night]

help plz

[bleak bridge]

someone give me a good lineup for kt500

got a bit high lvl deficit

[faint current]

Thanks to White Bird

[bleak bridge]

well, I decided to be rebellious and go alna before lucretia xd I will try it by merc tho. Thanks

[faint current]

Np. I think floor 500 is way harder than the previous floors, that’s why the lowest power I could find is RC 330

Merc reset on 3.5 hours. Good luck!

[bleak bridge]

by far the hardest floor yeah. Thanks!

[candid talon]

Hey just started yesterday, just wondering if i’m building the right heroes

[north dragon]

Any tips

[summer cedar]

I recommend reading the pins in #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

brutus rowan lyca tasi daimon perhaps

[north dragon]

wow thx, it worked

[candid talon]

Gotcha thank you

[pale kettle]

Please help, idk wtf to do, the only one that can hold isabella down is nara, but the top side gets decimated cuz of vedan who just cleans house when he instantly turns into bats, my arden cant even root cuz hes always taking dmg

[summer cedar]

When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool

[pale kettle]

Oh yeah, its just cuz of the slowmode thing

[wind frigate]

oh wow

[summer cedar]

ur not taking 342 by any chance are you?

[pale kettle]

Idk what 342 is

[summer cedar]

talene brutus lyca rowan daimon perhaps
nvm then. I happen to know a Juman irl and he's in my class

[pale kettle]

Wth like his actual name is juman?

Also that lineup wont work cuz it cant clear fast enough to reach isabelle before she pops her ult, cuz the moment she does its game over

[languid skiff]

need help for this! 😦

[hardy bay]

Level up. 70+ levels above you is a lot of power.

[languid skiff]

that will take kinda long... i'm always out of purple dust.

[pale monolith]

What advice is that?
"Level up"
I had an 100 lvl cap at Ch24

[languid skiff]

any way to get it faster?

[languid skiff]

agreed, thank you hahaha

[hardy bay]

They level cap you by chapter?

That's a horrible desicion. Terrible game design.

[pale monolith]

What's your usualy line-up?
I don't think i can help that much since I'm not familiar with how Eironnworks

[languid skiff]

eironn saurus tasi talene and rowan

[hardy bay]

My dude I have said one thing.

Calm yourself please, no need to burst your top over a gacha collector.

[pale monolith]

Eironn doesn't struggle front row? He is usually used back row with Safyia for the force field

[languid skiff]

ah yes he's in the back. that was not in order ><

[pale monolith]

And is Tasi or Talene front?

[languid skiff]

yep both are. tasi has 3f

[pale monolith]

And Saurus back row?

[languid skiff]

mmhmm 🙂

[pale monolith]

Is Warek or Saveas troublesome?

Considering I always had the lowest level heros in all my chapters, I doubt that

[oblique gale]

@pale kettle are you helping for lineups?

[ashen schooner]

Keep it civil.

There's no need to be rude.

[languid skiff]

yup, quite >_< i think this stage is particularly difficult cuz most of my heroes are wilders.

[pale kettle]

He should just stop giving ANY advice because he sucks

[onyx basin]

which is the strongest ainz pvp team? ive played with ainz talene for a while but im outplayed by ainz ezizh comps(is this question for #question? idk)

[pale kettle]

You can do it, just give it a few shots with different hero positions

[pale monolith]

Maybe try putting Brutus in front of Warek and also maybe Ferael to fear Saveas. Maybe also Safyia

[pale monolith]

Standard Ainz comp is Albedo, Arthur - Front row;
Ainz, Rowan, Ferael - Back row;

[onyx basin]

never seen ferael in ainz comp what am i missing?

[pale kettle]

Ignore

[pale monolith]

In the gray brackets are the replacements but I say that Albedo is a must for the SI

[brave oriole]

Unorthodox setups are allowed

[maiden marsh]

Ainzbedo arthur joker ferael is the strongest cheap-ish setup in my experience

[stone halo]

who is a good replace for kren and sylas for the event boss?

[golden spoke]

Need help, stuck since days

My heroes

[brave oriole]

@golden spoke easy

Swap eironn with tasi

[golden spoke]

@brave oriole i get killed everytime in like under 10 seconds 😦

[brave oriole]

Cheat

@golden spoke but OK, let's take a look. This stage needs like
Nara
Rowan
Lyca
Eironn with dura's call
Saurus or ferael

[eternal ocean]

Need help tried a few combos no luck

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=27&stage=52#

[fiery remnant]

If this is what I have, what's the general best lineup I can get, taking free resonating crystal slots into account?

[tawny birch]

Isabelle being a pain in the butt

moreso its Ankhira who keeps webbing my Mirael so she can't pop her ult in time

[high marlin]

Any help appreciated

I also have Lorsan, safiya, etc I can swap joker with. This is kinda hurting my brain

[hallow kettle]

how in the world

[maiden marsh]

the spot where lucius is doesn't really matter, as long as they last longer than belinda does so hendrick saves her

[deft bear]

why I cant play?

[hallow kettle]

ooh its almost working. thanks tree

[dark wind]

Any suggestions

Im ready to merc this stage so stupid xD

[maiden marsh]

1. check https://afkhelper.nax.is/ if you haven't
2. get daimon +20 asap and use him as carry, saurus carry is nothing compared to him

[dark wind]

Working on it xD

Just got daimon selects plus the new chest , switching rain for fereal

Im seeing alot of 240 daimons in this chapter and they r strugling

[maiden marsh]

240 daimon shouldn't really struggle with the right support in ch24

[high marlin]

Yeah I've been seeing a lot of diamon + eironn on afkhelper

[reef vigil]

What could i make from this and what positions?

[dark wind]

Ealry game put all ur mats to wukong

Level him higher then ur pther hero

[hallow kettle]

@maiden marsh thanks man

[maiden marsh]

[reef vigil]

Ok thanks

[safe ridge]

Halp

[viral pebble]

nvm got it!

[high marlin]

Any help? Even ainz or 5 pull doesn't work

[elfin frost]

Show your available heroes

[maiden marsh]

5 pull's pretty doomed there

[high marlin]

Mb

I just ascended diamon so he's not even +10 yet

[elfin frost]

Have you tried putting eironn in the front against thoran? Like that he will pull ferael and shemira without triggering tasi.

[high marlin]

Eironn can't pull bc he gets interrupted

[elfin frost]

Not enough dodge to rng?

[high marlin]

He has 696 dodge so I can try to rng

[elfin frost]

You need to burst vedan before he ults or delay his ult somehow. Without ferael or oden idk. Who tasi banishes?

Both your tasi and the enemy

[high marlin]

I have Ferael too. Tasi banished shemira

[frail stone]

is skriath useful? I've had him in my team cuz he was legendary and im new on chapter 9, and i havent had too much gain with him.

[elfin frost]

Your ferael is l+

[hushed rover]

What line up should i use?

[elfin frost]

Do you have merc available? I could lend you a +30 3f oden to take care of the vedan

Also tasi shouldnt be banishing heroes you pulled with the vortex, if shes not getting a ult replace her

I also have a maxed + 30 9f ferael

[high marlin]

My list is full, so I'll just merc a Ferael. Ty

[dusky sage]

I just came back, should i swap?

[warm swan]

No. I'd consider swapping Shem instead.

[high marlin]

Scrolls should be saved for any major mess ups, or if a new until blows up the meta

[molten jasper]

how do i beat these guys 😦

everything gets leveled up to 251 for this fight btw

[dusky sage]

And still for this forest guy? I've not played in so long i don't know who is good anymore.

[warm swan]

I put emphasis on the word "consider", ok. Yes Saurus 303 can help you esp with twisted realms and tower of god. I'd even include Thoran as a choice there if you are almost into multis. But then again, the safest choice is always to wait. If you're not sure who to use it on, then hold unto it. Give time to your account and see for yourself which hero you might want.

[dusky sage]

Ok thanks.

[pale kettle]

Can someone make a team out of these? i just got a bunch of new heroes

^i also just got lorsan and i can buy a hero from the labyrinth store 🙂

[molten jasper]

what’s my best guild hunt team?

[pseudo raptor]

What sort of pvp team can i hope to make with these heroes?

[marsh nymph]

from what u have, shem rowan lucius rosa tasi can suffice

[pseudo raptor]

Should i get those to L?

[marsh nymph]

not unless u can make them L+

[pseudo raptor]

Thats just rosa

[regal tusk]

I got Saurus and Safiya to Legendary + now, which one should I level up more to carry me?

[gentle magnet]

if you want carry probably daimon, but dont forget rowan lyca tasi, sillas and oden are pretty neat early on as well

[regal tusk]

Wouldnt i need to have him at higher levels? I dont have daimon at L+ (sorry if I sound like a noob cause I am)

[gentle magnet]

place him on your wishlist for starters, and you should try to make do with what you have, daimon does a lot of damage at lower ascension,

[regal tusk]

Oh okay, I have him on my wishlist

[keen dawn]

Daimon solo carried me to chapter 11 on E+

[regal tusk]

I hope I get another copy then

[pale kettle]

could someone help me make a team? i just got a few new heroes. i also got lorsan 🙂

[gentle magnet]

but strictly speaking, its not just highest damage, for example tasi sleep, lyca early haste, oden portal, sillas heal can be clutch, hence you should try to look into some utility heroes that can contribute to the team instead of the highest dps, which is important but,

skriath ulti's crowd control

[regal tusk]

Okay thanks!

[gentle magnet]

right now since you are, "limited", you should look into some make do heroes, and also place them on your wishlist, and work from there,

what i would also recommend is do not ascend too many heroes to L+, it stalls progress, get that 5 main heroes and a 2 3more for clutch utility

@regal tusk #classic-questions pinned messages, have a look there its some good info, take some time to have a look at all kinds of guides and info graphs

[regal tusk]

Oh cool some stuff to read through, alright thanks

[gentle magnet]

@regal tusk also check volkin on youtube, he does early chapter content most of the time, and he runs new accounts at all times, chapter 1~20ish, so you can take some ideas on what is working and whatnot

[pale kettle]

@stark valley few new heroes, anything I should use for a new line up or do I still have only trash

[marsh nymph]

help

[obtuse granite]

Need more supports but help me out

[royal kayak]

Help

[small mesa]

I’m getting totally destroyed

[frail stone]

I've been stuck in 10-4 is there anything I can do with my lineup? I'm trying to get Daimon and Izold to legendary but enemies literally 2 shot me and I have no dust to lvl anyone up

[crystal yoke]

Can someone suggest a team for me please
I’m fairly new and would appreciate some help!

[earnest rivet]

I’m stuck yet again. I need help from the pro’s.

[pale kettle]

Can someone give me good teams I'm new lvl 40 thanks :)

[south grail]

Need help. Level is annoying

[thorny pendant]

rowan, daimon, lyca, eironn (or ferael), nara

[south grail]

Nvm I won with rng

[pale monolith]

As a general line-up go with:
Ghezul, Hogan - Front row;
Belinda, Nemora, Rosaline/Arden - Back row;
Seitch Nemora with Rowan or Talene when you get them

[obtuse granite]

@pale monolith Ryan

*tsym

[pale monolith]

Send the stats(Lower right corner after the battle is finished)

[pale monolith]

Stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+
Amtandra, Tasi - Front row ;
Nemora, Daimon, Lyca - Back row;

Maybe:
Talene, Rowan - Front row;
Arden, Daimon, Ferael - Back row;

[nova chasm]

mehira wont let me win

[vernal crane]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=27&stage=60 try checking line ups here

[narrow gulch]

guys how do I replace this guy

when I'm using these guys

welp

ping me if anyone responds

[outer sparrow]

who i should be mainly focusing on leveling and to help with the story

[tired dove]

Am stuck here

[opal terrace]

who i should be mainly focusing on leveling? I'm kinda confused :c

[pale kettle]

pea brain for this game idc who is in it just the best team

rowan is now a gold idk the names

[sand parcel]

think I could win this? or should I make some changes

[vapid field]

Is it worth 30ing Eironn or save for Rowan when he gets m?

[sand parcel]

Rowan makes your carry ult at 600 energy, I think it is more worth it. he should always be first +30 imo
also is that an alt, because no way you're in ch 29 😂

[vapid field]

Yeah. Alt

[sand parcel]

I thought so, nice

[long silo]

Hello I need help building a team for chapter 25 and forward I still have the scroll for chapter 24

This are my heroes

[warm swan]

Why those L heroes man. I suggest you get a daimon asap. @long silo

[woven fable]

this is tricky, I see you have Silas but no Daimon/Ferael/Izold...

[long silo]

@warm swan is he that good ?

[woven fable]

Yes, one of the best

[warm swan]

^

[long silo]

Isn’t there any comp I could do around the heroes I have plus maybe 1 or 2 more that I don’t ?

I could use the scroll from chapter 2 and get a daimon

[amber halo]

If i put a nara I'm powercapped..

[woven fable]

Can you tell me your plan for multi team comps? Ainz is very good and invested but I'm very concerned about everything else

[warm swan]

@long silo I mean yeah you can try to brute-force your way into rng with every stage but that will just leave you drained eventually. You can keep using shem+brutus and myb rosa rowan for sus. But you really need to build a new comp.

[woven fable]

Nara pulls Arthur and I dunno if thats good for you, since his buff adds to Ainz's damage - maybe put Fer/Tasi/Lyca there

[long silo]

@warm swan I don’t mind doing a new comp can I incorporate tasi and lyca in a new one ?

[amber halo]

Arthur is +30

[woven fable]

oh, then who does she pull?

[woven fable]

if you want tasi and lyca then I'd suggest a classic Eironn comp - Frontline Tasi/Rowan, Backline Lyca Eironn FlexHero

[amber halo]

She tries arthur. Nothing happens And 3 seconds after she pulls rowan

[warm swan]

@long silo check here for the comps so you'd have an idea on where you want to go
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/le0b0p/visual_guide_to_end_game_pve_formations_by_arty/

[long silo]

@woven fable would that be a good comp I want those as I already have them

Thank you 🙏

[woven fable]

you'll need additional investment, Rowan needs to have +30 SI to be exceptional, and eventually so does Eironn

[long silo]

@woven fable I will farm and wait until I get there lol

[woven fable]

but if you want to use it now then leave Rowan out and put someone else

although it might not work because of the fact that Eironn is just L 😄

[long silo]

So he isn’t good anymore ?

[opaque spruce]

Im kinda stuck at multi

my ainz team atm, noku in other team but it isnt good

[woven fable]

Eironn team works around Eironn pulling 3 heroes and bursting them fast with his ult. Rowan's SI +30 allows a character to reach ults much faster, making it ideal for this. But! Eironn also gets slapped by those 3 heroes the moment he pulls them, so if he is at only L (less def, less att) he might just die because of it.

[sand parcel]

any changes?

[woven fable]

wukong and your Brutus would work very well with Daimon, and you're working on Ferael who is also a staple there

[opaque spruce]

so should I 30 si wukong?

[long silo]

@woven fable can I do a daimon team but have monkey as my tank as I don’t have alna?

[woven fable]

it's decent, but he should be a good tank/bruiser at current investment - you generally want him to be a vanguard for Daimon who spirals out of control with every ult (and he will need his 30 more than wu)

[woven fable]

Yes, but focus on one team at a time

[opaque spruce]

Daimon is so far in my future I don't think I should consider him atm

I have a single daimon at E+

[long silo]

@woven fable well I just want to build a team for now that can clear stage 25 lol

[warm swan]

@opaque spruce how far are you to ascending thoran?

[opaque spruce]

L+ with a single extra copy of him

[warm swan]

[opaque spruce]

I started building him too recently when I heard about thoran cheese

[woven fable]

then choose one from here you like and try to build it @long silo

[stiff shard]

thoughts on a comp for this? i have 2 open slots in my crystal (E+ shemira left out in the picture)

[long silo]

@woven fable is it worth it getting an ainz from garrisons and investing in it ?

I could reset my joker and get him to si28 and I I farm a bit maybe make it to si30

[woven fable]

if you can't garrison both him and Albedo AND raise them to +30, Ainz alone is not OP

[long silo]

@woven fable I could one to si30 imediatly

[woven fable]

looks good, though I have limited knowledge of early game shenanigans (before 240), but the team comp is solid. You could maybe put rowan in front and Daimon in back for him to not get CC'd, put Mirael middle back after Raku leaves and go on, you're good I think

[stiff shard]

alrighty, will try out, tysm!

[woven fable]

what do you mean by reset your joker? and no, please wait with Ainz for now. Before you get a good Dim team you might be half a year from now, get something cheaper like Daimon or Eironn

[opaque spruce]

wait... I just remembered I still have a swap scroll

[warm swan]

Pog

[woven fable]

that's a lot of good targets for one lol

[warm swan]

There's still hope

[woven fable]

hope and still a lot of time

[sand parcel]

any changes?

[woven fable]

I hope he knows there are 5 teams to build ahead of him

[woven fable]

check the description of the call artifact, having 3 in your teams just destroys the purpose of it

[warm swan]

I'm only 3 lvls above him, he can prolly wing it the old way

[sand parcel]

wow I read that so long ago but forgot about it. thank you!
is it worth having on Daimon and rowan or just one of them?

[woven fable]

just Daimon I'd say, change Rowans to the dodge artifact and he'll be almost invincible to non-mages

[woven fable]

any team can be good if you're ahead of your enemies' levels, right?

[warm swan]

Yep, the ol' overlevel strat

[opaque spruce]

that's my fav strat, even in pvp

[woven fable]

works best in PVP, actually

[opaque spruce]

there's a guy that I always dominate, I use him beating me as a sign that I need to level up my comp

[woven fable]

...I feel sorry for the guy, actually

[stiff shard]

in the offchance i pull a 4th thoran later today, do you reckon i’d benefit more from an L+ thoran over an L+ niru (for daimon’s L+ union?)

[woven fable]

no, if that upgrades your union then definitely not

[stiff shard]

awesome, thank you! 😃

[woven fable]

also, you could maybe upgrade him to mythic soon, meaning Daimon's SI will get you going much further

[stiff shard]

yeee, been itching to after i get my 6th L+, so i don’t cap myself

[half wind]

i can't finish this fight (all other 4 fights are ok), any ideas? also tried lyca, gorvo,skriath, eironn, safiya

[woven fable]

I can appreciate some good forward thinking, nice

[woven fable]

no tidus? or is he too weak

[half wind]

SI20, 3 furniture, but dies immediately 😄 at almost 190 lvl deficit he's too squishy

[woven fable]

try skriath frontline in place of skreg, and put tidus in backline

I don't think it matters if skriath dies since yours isnt +30 so no big damages there, and my tidus just doesnt work frontline if there is lyca on team, he can only fear on decent timing from backline

[stiff shard]

[hybrid charm]

pls help merc already used ?

[honest socket]

Tips for this stage?

[short zephyr]

Do you have reds available to make albedo +30? That would spike your team power really hard and I'd reckon you can beat more stages

[hybrid charm]

any tips please ????

[honest socket]

sadly not

[short zephyr]

Make that your next +30 priority , you have an incredible ainz team with ainz sitting at 9f , once you have albedo at +30 , swap talene for arthur and you're running the classic ainz comp

[stiff shard]

@woven fable with 3 slots on my crystal, which 3 do you think i should add for pvp too btw? wukong? skriath? lorsan? silas? numisu? fawkes? cecilia? athalia? cecilia’s aoe 60% atk debuff sounds attractive on paper, but athalia’s a celestial? idk haha

[hybrid charm]

any help on this please?? #lineup-help

[pale kettle]

could someone make a team out of these please? 🙂

[woven fable]

wukong probably, rest is kinda meh, especially for pvp. Maybe silas and fawkes as well if you want

[stiff shard]

okay, thank you!

[hybrid charm]

Im stuck on this stage and cant move any suggestions ??

[woven fable]

try silas middle, oden top and Eironn bot maybe

or remove oden altogether and put Mirael in, since she's 121 instead of 120

[chilly rampart]

Savaes or mirael

[agile roost]

Help

[hybrid charm]

Kk Ill try it

[hybrid charm]

nope still not working :c even with mirael

[woven fable]

maybe try Izold/Eironn front, then Oden/Silas/Flex(Peggy/Raku/Daimon/Ferael)
And wait until Eironn dodges Estrilda kick

[woven fable]

Fawkes will put shem into the coffin so Gwyn won't do anything, try to put her against ferael

[earnest rivet]

As usual, I am once again stuck. I need help from the professionals such as yourselves

[hybrid charm]

thx it worked with ferael

[agile roost]

Help pls

[woven fable]

he steals energy from enemies slowing down their ultimates, effectively - keep him in mind for later and good luck 🙂

[woven fable]

show artifacts

[earnest rivet]

I just used the most popular ones..

I have every Dura artifact other than Dura’s Conviction

[hybrid charm]

yup i will, but i will send one more picture if u dont mind 😄

[woven fable]

check the description for call, having more than one on team is quite bad; Also - you might need to wait a bit for another mythic character as your L count is very high, this is probably stopping you from leveling

[earnest rivet]

Uh oh. I messed up lmao

[earnest rivet]

Wym by wait?

[woven fable]

wait for fodder to ascend more heroes 😄 and wait for copies to get L+'s

[earnest rivet]

Ohhhh

[maiden marsh]

it's perfectly fine to have more than one call on a team, in fact the debuff is small enough to comfortably run up to 3 if the team needs it

[earnest rivet]

Even though it’s supposedly small, how could I change those artifacts to get rid of the debuff??

[maiden marsh]

the only things I would change there is to give joker eye and lucius chalice

[woven fable]

actually yeah, 15% is just 2 less energy or smth, not that bad since you need a thousand.

[earnest rivet]

Done and done.

[hybrid charm]

@woven fable now this ://

[earnest rivet]

Usually I get about 2 kills then I get obliterated

[woven fable]

Just isabella things... if you have a nara put her up against her, or some ferael shenanigans to slow her energy gain

[earnest rivet]

Well I do have a lvl 160 L Ferael

[winter lion]

Level 40, stage 7-3. Hows my lineup?

[woven fable]

I'd probably try working around Daimon here, maybe Peggy front with Eironn, then Daimon Silas Raku from the top to bottom

[earnest rivet]

Not bad, but could be better if you had a factional advantage.

[winter lion]

Do you recommend any heroes or setups for me?

[woven fable]

Looks very good, though you will want to swap out shemira for a different carry, preferably Wilder so you can get more stats from 3 Wilders (Eironn/Raku maybe)

[earnest rivet]

Well there ya go lmao

[winter lion]

Yeah, thanks. I heard shemira gets worse as you go on

[maiden marsh]

eironn is a pretty terrible carry without gear/SI, the best carry for you right now is mirael. also learn how to overlevel instead of spreading resources evenly

[earnest rivet]

The only way I could win this is if I replaced Rowan or Talene with Ferael.

[winter lion]

I have a legendary mirael sitting in my bag, I’ve just never used her

Level her and swap out for shemira?

[maiden marsh]

she's your best carry for now, reset everyone and overlevel mirael as far as possible

[winter lion]

You’re saying over level her and then just use the resonating thing for everyone else?

[maiden marsh]

still need 4 others manually leveled

[woven fable]

then do it, your L rowan is probably not doing god's work now anyway 😄

[winter lion]

Gotcha, thanks

[earnest rivet]

That’s true XD

[earnest rivet]

This is why I come to you guys for help lmao

[pale kettle]

can anyone help me with my team? im not sure who to use 🙂

[candid talon]

Out of resources to level up my carry and my lineup is starting to fail any ideas

[woven fable]

No problem 🙂
@pale kettle check the pins on #classic-questions Getting Mirael to L+ as your main carry would be a good bet for me

[mellow swan]

@candid talon your first issue is you gave the enemy team a major faction advantage over your team

You have 4 wilders vs 5 maulers, (maulers have a faction bonus and damage increase over wilders)

[pale kettle]

who should i use to ascend mireal to legendary?

[pale kettle]

and also, which 5 do i level? im so confused at all of this 😂

[candid talon]

I just leveled the fodder heroes I had the most copies of for now, not sure it entirely matters that you level those 5 specifically but I could be wrong

[hybrid charm]

@woven fable well that aint working tried even ferael and other

[woven fable]

other fodder (meaning legendary heroes like Hogan, Angelo, Morvus from Lightbearers) - you can level up Mirael, Wukong, Estrilda, Lyca and Arden -> Wukong Estrilda frontline, rest backline

[woven fable]

Yes, because ideally you'd want to have your fodder be your first L+'s -> because when you get enough copies of actual good heroes you can push them straight to mythic with this fodder

[hybrid charm]

Tried but not working

[woven fable]

Morvus deals good damage, and so does Mirael, therefore you want to disable at least one of them and kill the other fast (I'm talking about your enemy) -> Daimon is good against tanks but he can't kill people fast, so that might be an issue...
Try different comps if you want to tinker with it or level up your carry and hope for the best 😄
I'm going now so can't help anymore! Bye bye people

[fleet thistle]

i get killed before my ainz can cast the second nuke

the daimon in the center is just a test

any suggestion?

[maiden marsh]

be sure to check afkhelper in the future

with your levels you could be chapter 30 by just copying daimon comps tbh

[fleet thistle]

lol

daimon +20 enough?

[maiden marsh]

plenty, you don't need daimon 30 until like chapter 34+

[drowsy gazelle]

My daimon is still +20 in chap32 fyi

[fleet thistle]

nice

what artifacts?

like this?

[maiden marsh]

the order in the screenshot is always 1-5, numbers are on the ground of the battlefield

[candid talon]

should I put pippa on the resonating crystal?

[fleet thistle]

damn i just beat it lol, ty @maiden marsh

do i use dura's call or sword on daimon

[maiden marsh]

always call

[low bridge]

Can someone help?

[eternal ocean]

Need help please pm

[reef vigil]

I cant get past this

[short zephyr]

Place your carry far away from estrilda , in your case this would be daimon , so switch the positioning between lyca and daimon

[fleet thistle]

@maiden marsh i got to chapter 28 lol, ty

[teal marten]

Lucius, Tasi, Daimon, Lyca, Arden

[teal marten]

Talene, Arthur, Albedo, Rowan, Ainz

I'd recommend raising Ainz's, Rowan's, and Albedo's SI to +30

[teal marten]

Try Rosaline, Lucius, Wu Kong, Belinda, Raku

In that order

[reef vigil]

Ok thanks

[teal marten]

[reef vigil]

Worked great

[long flower]

Thanks

It the team I am using btw 🤣 but thanks now i know its good

[potent shale]

Can someone help im stuck here

[pale kettle]

looking for advice on perfecting my thoran cheese

taint goes on fera, flora can finish hiim off
baden/thoran are consistently surviving though
thoran i just need to ult first to reflect on, but not sure how baden is surviving? anyone have any ideas?

[maiden marsh]

yeah that's an amazingly doomed cheese

[pale kettle]

so enemy thoran i see as an obvious problem, but why is baden a problem?

[maiden marsh]

thoran is enough to make this a horrible cheese

[pale kettle]

since i'm counting on ulting before first death to kill him during ult 1 and killing him again during ult 2?

[maiden marsh]

yeah it's just a mess in every way

[pale kettle]

got it, guess thoran goes in the ezizh pile of uncheesable

[maiden marsh]

not quite that bad but still pretty fucking doomed yeah

[brittle juniper]

Whoever put this Tower Stage in deserves a special place in Soggy-Cereal&Soft-Grape-Hell

[pale kettle]

is tower 450 worse than mauler 387 o.o

[maiden marsh]

mauler 387 makes tower 450 look like child's play

[brittle juniper]

May I get to see Mauler 387 for comparison

[brittle juniper]

Oh boy cant fuck frontline cause backline kills you and vice versa. Yeah Tower450 looks like 1-1 in comparison

[maiden marsh]

flora is perhaps the hardest enemy in the game; now fight her with only maulers

[brittle juniper]

The goddamn Mehira Stages convinced me to start building her for shits'n'giggles.

[maiden marsh]

she's fine at E for our purposes really

[brittle juniper]

Im currently trying to think of a team to implement Peggy because goddamn I love her design

First instinct is Gwyneth Arthur Lyca Rowan but I lack the Arthur

[pale kettle]

Maybe mix her and grezhul for a bunch of minions

[brittle juniper]

I want to win stages not brick my phone 😂 @pale kettle

[potent shale]

Anyone care to help my noob ass beat chapter 8

[brittle juniper]

Change Saurus with Lucius and then swap Grezhul and Lucius

From my experience, Saurus early is pretty meh. Also dont put everything to L unless you can put it to L+ you will regret it later.

[potent shale]

It worked thx

@brittle juniper Should i replace Saurus then?

[brittle juniper]

For campaign for now: yes. He will be very useful later on once you invest in him

[potent shale]

@brittle juniper these are my troops who should i replace Saurus with?

[pale monolith]

Stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+
Try:
Brutus, Thoran/Lucius - Front row;
Belinda, Rowan, Ferael - Back row;

Lucius, Thoran - Front row;
Shemira, Rowan, Lyca/Rosaline - Back row;

[steel tundra]

Need some help with lineup

[pale monolith]

1. Why run 2 carriers in a team? Also Ainz isn't good without Signature Item
2. Golus isn't a good tank and Daimon doesn't depend on his Ultimate to dal damage
3. Try:
   Lyca

Lucius
Rowan
Brutus/Saurus
Daimon

[dull bay]

Solid? And ill have izold built soon and considering swapping silas

[steel tundra]

Will do ty

[rustic lantern]

Should I ascend Rosaline?

[stiff shard]

any recommendations for a comp here? (daimon and raku in the row above)

[vital kernel]

No, check the pins in #classic-questions it'll suggest you ascend Mirael first

[pale monolith]

Daimon

Brutus
Rowan/Talene
Lyca
Lorsan

[pale kettle]

my team rn is hogan and lyca in the front with arden, gwyn and mireal in the back, im losing on chapter 7 due to lack of tanking. anyone got advice?

[stiff shard]

just cleared it by swapping the 2 frontliners & backliners respectively actually, but thank you! i’ll put lorsan on my crystal

[pale kettle]

team?

[pale monolith]

Lyca isn't a tank and you already have Mirael as a carrier so put Lyca back row instead of Gwyneth and in front put Thoran. As for the chest Nara would be the best option

[pale kettle]

thank you, when will nara ever be used?

[pale kettle]

also wont i lose faction bonus?

[pale monolith]

Well Nemora and Khasos have 0 use, and Lucius hard falls later. The scrolls are the worst option and Nara sees some use with Daimon comp. Forgot to say that when Mirael reaches lvl 160 you can't level her up anymore so after that make Daimon your carrier.
As for facton bonus you can swap out Arden for Rowan for healing

In some stages you can switch between Arden and Lyca, Arden really shines with his triple root

[pale monolith]

You got no decent tanks and no healers. I'd build Thoran and use him front row with Estrilda, I'd also build Rowan and use him back row with Lyca and maybe Rosaline for the factional advantage, if she doesn't survive enough to ult you can use Ferael or Lorsa. Also stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+

[pale kettle]

so like this? what do i do if i dont get rowan for ages?

[pale monolith]

If you have him on your wishlist you will eventually get him. He shines out later and not so much early-game. If you don't get Rowan you can use Talene or Silas if you get them

[pale kettle]

alright thanks, couldnt i get the fation scrolls and see if i get him there?

[pale monolith]

No

[stiff shard]

def not worth, basically stick to graveborn all the way

[pale kettle]

okay, thanks 🙂

[pale monolith]

[stiff shard]

starting out, no?

[maiden marsh]

faction scrolls all go to graveborn for a long time yeah

[pale kettle]

okk tyy

[pale monolith]

👍

[pale kettle]

is there someone i can use then thoran?

[pale monolith]

It'd say it would be bestto build Thoran since with his SI he gets a big HP boost and you can use Thoran cheese

[maiden marsh]

I wouldn't touch thoran SI past +0 unless you're taking it to 30

[summer wagon]

anyone got a good idea?

[gentle magnet]

lyca saurus tasi lorsan eiron ?*

[summer wagon]

not bad. maybe with some retries. I'll give it a few minutes thanks

[wispy flax]

Need advice, the problem is the zolrath always survives to the end and when he resets the battle, it wipes half my team and I usually lose

[gentle magnet]

steep deficit, see if it works out, the other way im seeing would be maybe eiron and saurus on top to pull with tasi in the front and lyca middle @summer wagon

[summer wagon]

yeah lots of deficit and now maulers too. gonna let it retry for a while now. probably possible if i let it retry like 10-20 minutes

[gentle magnet]

maulers and LB towers are terrible

[summer wagon]

yeah. what i meant tho is that i have to fight maulers as wilders with a high deficit and they're getting SI now

[shy pagoda]

Any suggestions to beat this?

[brazen pulsar]

Help meee beat the final thingy

[pale kettle]

What would be the best team comp I can make here with shemira as a carry?

[sly talon]

I've been playing for a few days now. Just wondering what the best team I can make with these.

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/cc33e619c47bd066e916febb98f5213e

[dusky comet]

Could you help me put together a team? I also have 170k lab coins I don’t know what to do with

[frank solar]

Does anyone have an Albedo I could Garrison?

[warped moat]

How should I set this up

[warped moat]

Try #mercenary idk

[vapid field]

I do ^That name 👍

[frank solar]

Added

Thank you!

[lone wigeon]

Help pls

[golden sedge]

Can someone help me beat this?

[honest socket]

This stage is actually killing me, I need to get it done before reset to get the misty valley hero reward. Any comps you guys can see cheesing this? I've run 150+ of this formation to no avail and the reverse (ainz top joker bottom). I need a major helping hand (mercs used)

[maiden marsh]

you check afkhelper already?

[lone wigeon]

^

[honest socket]

Yep mostly unhelpful, in general I find the "winning" formations thing on AFKHelper is. It's misleading as hell. Mostly cause of the lack of sig/furniture shown. I copied a winning team, with straight upgrades (more stars etc) and yet lost with it every time. All because of furniture and such. Real people are my best bet since they actually gauge how the fight will go vs any teamcomps

[pale kettle]

taint goes on hypo mage
best i've done with thoran cheese so far is seirus/ogi alive. probably not a big enough deficit to successfully cheese this stage? or seirus/ogi just don't do enough damage to kill themselves?

[pale kettle]

btw you have until the end of the month to get the ch 29 clear MV HCP

[warm swan]

@honest socket how is it misleading? It basically shows everything except for the actual fight - lvls, sigs, furns, tree, stars

[pale kettle]

only thing it doesn't show is artifacts which ig could make a big difference but people normally run meta artifacts on most heroes i think?

although upload date would be really useful
like isabella pre/post rework is pretty different
or certain stages pre/post powercap nerf
i am blind

[warm swan]

Ok I forgot the relics. Lmao. But yeah, you can just switch it around depending on what happens. It's already updated with upload dates also

[pale kettle]

also gear can be a huge difference like eironn with/without gear

[maiden marsh]

sig and furn are both shown lol, your problem is more likely artifact selection

[pale kettle]

@vale stump how did tasi/daimon not get one shot by hypo mage/shemira respectively? been trying to copy this clear for hours with no luck

[vale stump]

barricade on brutus

you have to keep rerolling for tasi to not get crit by shemira as well

[pale kettle]

from looking at your screenshots, it seems you have lyca/tasi/eironn at A? how did you get A+30 saurus for ToG? since it doesn't look like you have ainzbedo built either

[vale stump]

i got it after

[pale kettle]

how did you do ToG without A+30 saurus?

[vale stump]

you dont need +30 saurus to get just the base artifacts

[pale kettle]

ohhhhhh thanks

[vale stump]

+30 saurus is just for max reward stuff

[maiden marsh]

base artis are pretty doable with whatever, max rewards are where you need a decent team like ainz or saurus cycle

[pale kettle]

i don't have barricade yet, so that's probably my problem

[vale stump]

yeah always barricade on brutus very important now that you can have it

[pale kettle]

i started using much more thoran cheese in ch 28 and it feels super satisfying when it works

[honest socket]

Where? This is from their website

[pale kettle]

look at the little icons, dots below it = furn, trim = SI

[maiden marsh]

the character portraits denote SI level and furn yeah

[honest socket]

BRUH REALLY Damn literally never knew that

[pale kettle]

learn something knew every day

[honest socket]

So what artifacts for each of these characters? This is the closest I've gotten to winning so far but Joker and Rowan die too fast sometimes

[proven echo]

Any thoughts?

[maiden marsh]

try arthur, albedo, joker, ferael, ainz
call on ainz, eye on fera and joker, barricade on albedo and arthur

[honest socket]

Thanks I'll give it a try!

[honest socket]

Ferael dies before he can even scare anyone

[maiden marsh]

i'm assuming your dodge gear isn't up to par then

[honest socket]

He's got 3star mythic stuff (only one faction bonus) but

[maiden marsh]

preferably he would have 5 star t2 faction boots and weapon at least

[candid talon]

Stuck on 7-16 any suggestions?

[honest socket]

Aye carumba I'm stage 29 and I don't think I've ever even gotten graveborn leather

[maiden marsh]

off faction should suffice for now

[honest socket]

Still just dead before he does anything

[candid talon]

I have one spot open on my resonance crystal by the way if anyone has any recommendations who to put on there

[stiff shard]

what should my pvp defense be?

[golden sedge]

What’s the best team I can make?

[pale kettle]

Can't seem to beat this, any help?

[pale kettle]

ty

[small mesa]

I’m getting destroyed

[pale kettle]

Alright so, I'm making a shemira carry deck, I also need my Nara in there, but I'm not sure what you put as my other 3 heroes, any suggestions on what I have which works well with this deck?

[summer cedar]

brutus lucius rowan gwyn lyca

[candid talon]

I have 1 spot on my resonance crystal who should I put on there?

[keen fulcrum]

I'm having a hard time progressing what do I do?

[candid talon]

Put lucius where rosaline is

[keen fulcrum]

ok I'll try it out

[small mesa]

thanks it’s actually working

[hot coral]

Just curious, is this even winnable at all with any kind of lineup in the game? Have been going with every hero I have that I can think of but they just run out the timer with infinite revives and heals lmao. (Closest I got was defeating 2 with this lineup btw just for one second)

[summer cedar]

• When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool
• can u merc ainz?

[ashen dragon]

Does anyone have a good team for the "kill 2 backline first" for misty valley 18? (Rigby/Athilia/Rowan/Fawkes/Belinda)

[summer cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/666771475025625101/830980320739196959/Screenshot_20210411-205343_AFK_Arena.jpg

[ashen dragon]

That did it, thank you

[hot coral]

I believe I can. Btw this is the rest of the heroes I got. I honestly was just wondering if it was possible at all because they get health back so fast it makes me laugh every time lol

[summer cedar]

why did u think I suggest mercing ainz? ofc it's possible... with ainz

[hot coral]

Lol thanks. Still plenty of things I don't know about heroes.

[west fog]

if you're still struggling, and have arthur, I beat it w/ this one after like... 100+ tries lol

[summer cedar]

• stop making L heroes.
• shem lucius rowan gwyn lyca might work @hot coral

[honest socket]

Thanks a ton this looks more realistically like what I have to work with

[west fog]

it gets dumpstered 99/100 times, sometimes ainz doesn't even get to ult... this is a hail mary comp i guess

[hot coral]

Sry if I sound like an idiot but what do you mean by "L heroes"?

[summer cedar]

29-60 is just painful rng-wise. get a winning lineup and just try, try again

[summer cedar]

ask in #classic-questions I need to do something else rq

[hushed rover]

Can someone help me

[proven echo]

Is this possible?

[brave oriole]

@proven echo maybe, put rowan middle and brutus top front

[clear lark]

been stuck on here anyone know what i can do?

[maiden marsh]

try swapping estrilda for brutus, gwyn for tasi

[clear lark]

kk

[proven echo]

Finally got it thank you

[brave oriole]

@clear lark of you reset estrilda back to 200,would be enough for gwyn to 240

[clear lark]

ohh ok i’ll go do that

[hot coral]

I actually seriously appreciate the help and the lineup suggestion. I used that but with khazard instead of Rowan (because I dont have rowan atm) and it worked quickly and amazingly. Thank you!!!

[rough dagger]

Any help

[muted dust]

Borrow an ainz from someone

[stiff shard]

next time use this, just in case! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nxgsmdyJed8xJrl0Moc3ZYL3yOrV-mjrpPak2jJUVa0/edit#gid=0

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle get a hella merc and nuke em all

[rigid birch]

try a satrana mercenary

[maiden marsh]

ainz merc should sweep it

[wide oxide]

This feels impossible?? They just instantly heal any damage I deal

[stiff shard]

in case you need raku's too
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/mdf4vx/peggy_raku_bountiful_trial_guide/

[rigid birch]

merc a satrana/ainz/gwyneth

[wide oxide]

Ahhhh ok thanks qwq

[maiden ginkgo]

What should my team be?

[normal quarry]

@neon nova

[neon nova]

you've made a mistake getting rose and nimusu to L. If you haven't please read pins, they have some valuable early- game information you wouldn't want to miss! Also I would level your wukong to 100 to be your carry right now and start working towards a mireal carry team until you get more copies

[maiden ginkgo]

Kk

[neon nova]

tbh in your case I would level daimon to 60 after wu kong, since you're still early I would run something like wu kong, Daimon, Oden, Silas, and fawkes/arden

Daimon's % dmg scale will make him probably better than wu kong in most battles even levels under wu

[normal quarry]

Does that mean I should reset currently lvl'd heroes to lvl up the ones you mentioned?

[west hornet]

im working on wuhong strategy my lineup is
1 wuhong -elite
2 hogan -elite+
3 nemora - elite
4 lyca -elite+
5 arden- elite +
i was wondering if i should replace any of the backrow ( 3 - 5) with Tasi - Epic

and also if i should rearrange the positions in my back row

[neon nova]

I'd reset hogan only, mireal levels won't hurt since you'll be bulding her in the near future

[neon nova]

Nope it's perfect, i'd use nemora as a meat shield if enemy comp has a disrupt like athalia or nara. repositioning only will depend on enemy comp imo

[west hornet]

ok thank you

[neon nova]

np

[reef vigil]

I cant get past anything i can make?

[pale kettle]

@reef vigil this is where you afk, wait till global reset tomorrow, and level your heroes up a bit

[reef vigil]

Ok

Thanks

[pale kettle]

Np just don't play toooo much, asking is important too

[normal quarry]

Sry for asking something that might be obvious, but after daimon to 60 others should be lvld to 60 too?(Oden, Silas Arden/Fawkes)

[neon nova]

i'd do Sillas-> Oden-> Arden, by then iirc you'll have resonating crystal to put fawkes on

[teal hill]

Hello guys, i am on 31-8 currently, who should i focus as a secondary team?
My main consist of Ainz, Albedo, Arthur, Talene and Rowan.

[maiden marsh]

daimon

[teal hill]

She is currently +20 , should i just get her better gear? Also , whoelse?

[maiden marsh]

20 is fine for the near future, gear is good too for Daimon, he mostly benefits from the haste from the boots
a team around him would be something like tasi rowan lyca mehira daimon (very variable)

side note: looks like a little starhunting; don't do that (yet). breadth over depth

@teal hill

[drowsy gazelle]

dont forget weapon aswell, he needs the acc stat or his ult will miss

[maiden marsh]

that too

[teal hill]

So, for Stages, is Daimon better than Izold? 🤔

[maiden marsh]

well your izold is kinda sadge so yes, and also generally yes

[drowsy gazelle]

izold kinda requires +30 to not get deaded so easily with cc, he works +20, but if there is alot of cc involved then hes dead

[teal hill]

I was thinking doing Izold my next +30 🤔

[drowsy gazelle]

but yeah, with your box and even levels chap31 shouldnt be a problem

[maiden marsh]

you say that like we didn't push our asses off to get here

[teal hill]

So for second team would you suggest Daimon +20, Izold +30, Tasi, lyca and.....Eiron?

[drowsy gazelle]

thats too much carry in a single comp, put in some cc hero like ferael tasi etc, or stall like brutus grezhul etc

[maiden marsh]

[drowsy gazelle]

hey, i use them doesnt mean i recommend them to other people

[teal hill]

So..... Daimon, Tasi, Lyca, Eiron and Ferael?

[drowsy gazelle]

probably, idk. run it a few times and see for yourself

[maiden marsh]

it totally depends on stage anyways

[teal hill]

This is the stage

[maiden marsh]

do you know how to deal with mehiras?
there's a very consistent and cheap strat

[drowsy gazelle]

brute force through her

[teal hill]

Idk :c

[maiden marsh]

nara across from her

[maiden marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/830862995664011274/image0.gif

her bats will fuck you up if you let her spawn them, nara needs enough haste though

[drowsy gazelle]

wtf is with that color

[maiden marsh]

ask nilas smh my head

[teal hill]

What if i let Eiron pull her?

[drowsy gazelle]

he will pull her, but he wont interrupt her bats. only athalia or nara are capable of interrupting mehira from summoning her bats

[maiden marsh]

he will pull her, and he will die horribly

[teal hill]

I don't have a Nara though :(

[maiden marsh]

not a single copy?

[drowsy gazelle]

even E works with enough haste, you just need her to pull mehira and she can die after

[teal hill]

Well, this comp turned out well, lol

(The grezhul was a +20 Merc, but still)

[drowsy gazelle]

yep, grezhul can allow you to brute force mehira

[teal hill]

Is +20 a good signature level for him?

[drowsy gazelle]

yup, he will stay at +20 for a long long time

[pale kettle]

Had an alright shemira lineup, got told she's bad and to use this lineup and it's doing significantly worse, any help? Was doing good in 8-20/8-28, and now I die in 1 second

[maiden marsh]

we need the stage too

[pale kettle]

? Wdym

[atomic flower]

Trying to figure out the best lineup against Zaphrael in hunting fields... Eironn, nemora, ulmus and lorsan all have their exclusive runes. Just having trouble with a good team comp

[maiden marsh]

the enemies you are facing

[terse lintel]

@pale kettle screenshot the screen you get when you are about to start the battle in campaign

[pale kettle]

@maiden marsh was that to me or someone else

Oh alr

[maiden marsh]

it was to you

[pale kettle]

^

[atomic flower]

Sorry guys didn't realize there was a hunting fields channel, should I ask in there instead?

[terse lintel]

Would probably have a more knowledgeable base there

I just been brute forcing it with the group I'm in

@pale kettle what is your full hero page screen

[pale kettle]

sec

@terse lintel

[atomic flower]

@terse lintel same here, my first group didn't participate, this group is trying but my heroes are miles above my teammates so I'm having to carry them through the bosses and higher tier camps

[terse lintel]

@atomic flower same,
@pale kettle I would try and get lyca in resonate crystal and replace Arden in the format possibly

Would be nice if you had rowan

[pale kettle]

Yeah been looking for him

[terse lintel]

Also think replace grezhul with estrilda too

[pale kettle]

Why are people saying shemira carry isn't viable though, she does better than anyone else I've tried

[terse lintel]

@pale kettle she is a viable carry but with limitations, she shines more at level 180 but she is also expensive to build compared to daimon and eironn

[pale kettle]

Hm

[foggy grove]

Daimon is better

[pale kettle]

Yeah also looking for a daimon, they're saying I could feed my shemira to her later

[terse lintel]

Shemira would need +30 sign if I remember correctly where daimon just needs +20

[maiden marsh]

taking shemira to 30 would be a tremendously awful idea in any circumstance

[pale kettle]

What's +30 sign

Idk the terminology yet

[terse lintel]

A item called signatures when at mythic aka red border quality

[pale kettle]

I see

[terse lintel]

Personally I can't really recommend feeding her or any ascension tier heros to anyone

[pale kettle]

What would the team comp I'll ultimately be going for look like? With daimon and lyca, what would the other 3 be, and feeding who?

[maiden marsh]

rowan ferael tasi are solid supports worth building asap

[terse lintel]

It all depends on who you get but with who you have now? I'd say eironn, arden, and maybe nara or nemora

[pale kettle]

Hm, alright, so what do I go for now? While I don't have daimon yet

[terse lintel]

I personally been using daimon, eironn, tasi, Lyca and rowan for a really long tine

That's really a though call, but not getting any daimons or rowan is tough and I'd try to build up eironn as you already have one copy

On one of my accounts I used Eironn as it's carry for a while until I finished building daimon

I would also make sure you have a good wishlist set

[pale kettle]

Alright so eironn as carry, what does he run with that have rn? And sec, I'll send my wish list, I don't think it's good

[terse lintel]

Mirael would be your better carry atm, Eironn idk if he would survive thru his pull

[maiden marsh]

check the pins in #classic-questions for a wishlist

[terse lintel]

I'm sure it may be outdated but I've always used this

[maiden marsh]

yeah that's outdated

[pale kettle]

What's is the get one copy thing

[maiden marsh]

those heroes work for their intended purposes at E, so you only need one copy for now

[terse lintel]

Only have them on the wishlist until you have one then swap back

[pale kettle]

Ah

Well I got Nora so I don't need her on

[terse lintel]

Like you already have Cecilia so no point in having her on your wishlist

@maiden marsh so I'm guessing Raines rework made her much more viable with the other heroes

[maiden marsh]

top 5 lightbearer now yeah

[pale kettle]

What do I replace Cecilia with?

[terse lintel]

Had her copies but yet to bother ascending her and focused on rowan, gwen, rosalyn, estrilda, and fawkes

[maiden marsh]

estrilda

[pale kettle]

Wait nvm yeah got it

[terse lintel]

@pale kettle based on your screens I'd slot fawkes first then estrilda when you get hin

[pale kettle]

Ok i did my wish list, what about my team, what can I make with mira carry

Lookin like this rn and working terribly

[terse lintel]

I still stand by using mirael, rosa, estrilda, Lyca, and arden or Hogan

[pale kettle]

Ah

Arden or Hogan? That's a big difference ones a tank and the other is back row

[terse lintel]

Depends on survival of lyca in front

[pale kettle]

I see

[terse lintel]

If she can't then swap arden and put hogan in front

[pale kettle]

Yeah she won't survive in the stage I'm at, but neither does Hogan in the team rn