#lineup-help
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Bad joke
Being stuck on this stage is bad enough
Was thinking that she could boost JOKER but she can die easily and her 3/9 allows her to survive more.
Try:
Ferael
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
JOKER
If Ferael doesn't survive put Brutus in front of him but it'd be best to block Vedan. Put Dura's Cape on JOKER, Dura's Call on Rowan. If Rowan doesn't survive to get his ult then switch artifacts
any1 manage to pass 411 wilders recently? smh I can’t copy old replay despite higher lvl and on par if not better SI/F . did they buff skreg or something
Help
I can't get past this stage any tips
Eirron tasi Rowan Lyca saurus are the best stop leveling the old mage wilder and witch lb girl they become food later on
Thanks, this is an old account and im only coming back now and got all the new heroes.
Hogan is food not for leveling, revert him ASAP also only ascend a hero if you can get them l+ not legendary it will be easier later on
I JUST CANT DO IT
I know but I waiting to get more of lucius so I can acend him and replace hogan with lucius
Or do you have any suggestions on who I should use instead of him
I DID IT!!!!
Rowan will carry you better throughout later chapters
Yay!
@pale kettle You can keep Hogan leveled. He is both food AND used for leveling. You will have plenty of copies of him early game, which will allow you to break the lvl 160 cap.
Ive pulled quite a few elites since i first started my team, is there anything i can change to make it better? Right now its
Numisu
Thoran
Rowan
Wukong
Raine
Should I make sivlina or izold legendary
Def not Izold. You should avoid ascending heroes to L if you don't have copies to go to L+.
@warm swan would you mind helping please ;-;
Not much to go on yet. Pre-100 it's just Wukong, he will be your carry. Keep pouring your levels to him until he reaches 100.
I have to get everyone else to 60 first.
And im stuck where i am, so i was wondering if there was just a better team comp i should be running in general..?
i have enough to ascend my safiya, but it would take my saveas and im stuck on ch14 is it worth?
@clever elk You don't have much choices yet on your heroes. Okay maybe ditch Raine, and put Lyca instead for the initial haste. Aside from that, just iron your wishlist as per recommendation and keep pulling heroes. Have you read the pinned guide on #classic-questions ?
Yup!
Can someone tell me the best lineup I can make with my hero’s? I’ve been using Lucius, Izold, Tasi, Eironn, Flora. I got Rowan and some other and am wanting to know if I should implement them in?
@clever elk that's great. So in short, you're good to go. Keep avoiding the common newbie mistakes, iron your wishlist, keep pulling heroes. That's basically it.
I've seen some people do it with Eironn where Daimon is and Daimon where Lyca is, but I can't figure out how that team doesn't just get one shot
So my issue is, the stupid bat guy, lots of dmg and immune to alts killing everything, then the stabby lady is one plus at the end killing my units, what do
Like i just tried and killed everyone but bat guy transformed and just killed daimon and mira and they couldn’t do anything 😦
Lyca and Rowan are surprisingly tanky
Ainz
Arthur
Tasi
Rowan
Albedo
nvm i did it. Lyca,daimon,talene,mira,rowan
Am i doing this right?
If by right you mean wrong in every way, yes
oh so i just hero choice shemira?
guide says shemira to carry midgame from chapter 14
where i unlock stargazing ??
No... It will 100% give you a hero on 1st pull, do either twins or some other hypo/cele hero
Help, Eironn is cosplaying carpet
Thoran e+ as well in there
5 pulling brutus tasi is suicide, daimon is infinitely better here
Yeah i know, only recently got diamon but i cannot make use of him. Is fur 3 really needed?
Drape for his arti?
Never, call is default, barricade if you want to do funny things and you know what you're doing
I used call here
this is the only way to correctly daimon. can frontline/backline 140+ level deficit
Kk, i never figured why most people use drape
Most people are stupid
carry
I would agree but that's only level 316
Daimon can certainly carry at 140 deficit without 309 5* t3 gear lol
Might as well just use a level 1 E
Overinvestment size: large
tottaly worth it
Ty btw. Passed the stage <3
my favorite hero never failed me
Tru, are you able to help me with my stage?
Everyone just does too much damage no matter what I do pls help
look at my daimon carry chapter 29 when he was still a baby
Ascended talene 
Brutus for lucius
@maiden marsh Do you happen to have a screenshot of what you used to clear 30-30? lol

Thanks,maybe I can merc a 9f ainz lol
Why does Thoran's curse crit for 1,7kk. Why does Kelthur swap my Eironn... Help pls
Okay, I think I've found something that worked (but I stopped at the last moment to try to do it without the merc'd Eironn)
You need Barricade on Daimon to keep Eironn alive to ult, use Eironn, Rowan, Daimon, Lyca, Fera
Yeah I passed 50 a while ago
Oh wait, nvm you got it lol, what did you use, maybe I could get past it too
Now I'm stuck on 52 this time
Im stuck really stuck here. What should I do?
Still stuck on 20-58. How can I rearrange my heroes to win this? Or how can I improve them??
Who else do you have?
Hello! I just joined the game 2 days ago and got the following heroes and was wondering who I should pick with the tavern card where I can choose an elite unit
Graveborn
Thank you
Need help to clear this team
@urban olive Use Ainz Fawkes Nara Rowan and one more that you wish maybe wukong
Got it, will try it out
Thanks!
@north dragon Show the team against you have to fight 🙂
@north dragon Try to use Rowan Brutus Belinda Gwyn and Nara to pull Tasi
in what order tho, im kinda dumb when i play, if u can just say like top front bottom front, bottom back top back
The order that I say them 1. Rowan 2. Brutus 3. Belinda 4. Gwyn 5. Nara
1 as in top front? and 2 as in botto mfront?
Take them off and put them as i mentioned them
Great then ! @north dragon
i just put random characters together and it worked lol
Is there any new setups I should switch to? I got two more resonating crystal slots open, but not enough hero essence at the moment to get past 120.
Help me 😁
@fiery remnant maybe try to add someone that does damage instead of that many healers you and also rotate gear around depending who ur using
Thanks, that worked. My characters tend to die too easily, so I guess I took it a step too far on the defense.
@fiery remnant when you can I recommend you getting a warek amazing attacker and also has a rage effect that works very well
Do I have a chance at squeezing through?
I only started playing 2 days ago. Is there a way to ensure you get it, or are you just referring to the lottery system?
Sometimes you get lucky with scrolls honestly @fiery remnant use the code they dropped in events and when you use them make sure u got maulers as the greatest chance
Maybe fera bc fear?
In place of?
Thoran maybe? wait athalia
hmm
@fiery remnant send me your name
try lyca to fera
@nimble void
In front row fera?
Moduile is it
Could work depending on gear and rng
@fiery remnant accept my friend request you can borrow my warek whenever u can and msg me on there if u have questions
Hey np, fera is super duper useful bc his fear is op
Yeah it’s just weird cause I swear I tried that earlier, but I had him back row
read the pins in #classic-questions
Push me over the finish line is much more appropriate here. Anybody got anything for me?
Gwyn no lyca maybe?
Moving eironn might help to pull either arden or isabella
No dice. Rework on Isabelle has been really annoying
Yeah makes me big sad too
I've tried Fawkes, emo Tasi, and a bunch of combos but nothing seems to slow them down long enough for Daimon to do work
lazy to use my brain, any ideas?
no not the level at all u just have 3 carries on that team.
ur carries on that team is shemira belinda and eironn. Normally u just use 1
ya but they are all high priotized in my box, like idk who else i would use who has 670k+ power
just remove shemira and belinda and put brutus + daimon or brutus ferael. or daimon ferael
power means nothing. the enemies im fighting har 33 million or more than me
8 mill vs 44 mill
i still think they are better + shemira is dogsht when not overleveled
if u get melted easy put in brutus. He stalls good with his invulnerability
and ferael prevents them from ulting + cc
many people even use him e+ but u already got him mythic+
I only have 2 e+ ferael @amber halo
then brutus + daimon instead of shemira + belinda they are so bad
Where would my rowan go
isnt he tanky
Is there a lineup i can consistently use and not change that will carry me
@amber halo
Like that i dont have to change based on level in chapter?
Mid back unless gear and ascended them he can be frontline. Yes u can now but later u really can't unless ur not really pushing campaign regularly
can u give me a setup up numbered
daimon and brutus, rowan, who else and what order
Getting melted on the
this is what i was getting melted
@north dragon brutus lyca daimon eiron rowan
in that order, why lyca in front?
I cant beat this for shid
rowan front eironn middle
Replace Brutus with Lucius, Rowan bottom front, replace rosa with Ainz. Eironn in middle, saurus top?
@spiral quail
Ima try it hold on
with lucius? lucius is dog
💩
I liked my lucius back in the day :<
Brutus is probably better for stall. Try him instead too
rosa saurus to daimon ferael
i feel like no team is doing it for me
Well that didnt work i tried like 15 times
It's not reccomanded to run 3 carriers in 1 team
Who deals the most damage
daimon
How do I beat this?
You really need to build another tank or get Arthur. Maybe try:
Ferael
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Nara
Got it with that team easily, tyvm
The message wasn't for you but I'm glad to help
😂 Nice
Team help? Should I do hogan and full graveborn? As they seem to be the units I’m most often getting. If not who should I use and who will be my carry?
thank you ❤️
How should I setup my team against this?
Ainz will be good only after you get his Signature Item (Ascending to M). I suggest to have Daimon as your carry till then.
Try:
Daimon
Hogan
Rowan
Lucius/Brutus(If you got him)
Tasi/Arden
Maybe try:
Ainz
Brutus
Rowan
Saurus
Nara/Lyca
My team can't seem to stay alive
Got Talene or Silas?
@pale monolith umm not bad but not work. Į try more combination with saurus again losse, bc ainz cant kill most enemy but joker with multi ulti + multi skill he do 20-40% dmg and ainz with ulti kill 3-5 enemy
@pale monolith ainz cant hit 2times fast bc he not kill an enemy or ainz get kill 😁 stuck here
I've only been playing a week, just curious what the best team I should be going for is
@final sigil brutus, belinda, safiya, lucius, lyca
@final sigil safiya, or belinda build 1 can cary
Build 1?
1 or belinda or safiya
Ok
@final sigil If you've only been playing a week you should build fodder, basically everybody follows the same progression until 160:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZLSDhbeAwX8_RU9nJL8RG3oWA0D10QEjuSWpMxx8zg/edit?usp=sharing
Here's a guide pinned in #classic-questions that will walk you through all the starting stuff
Table of Contents Introduction Whaling 101 When Does ____ Unlock? Heroes Fodder Ascended Tier Celepogeans Dimensionals Tavern Time Your Wishlist Normal Summons Friendship Summons Faction Summons Hero Choice Pack (HCP) Stargazing Shops The Store Guild Store Barracks Labyrinth Store Challenger S...
This way you don't have to commit to building any of the characters with rarer drops until you know you have enough of them
And you'll need fodder to be ascended anyway in order to build your other characters later, so doing it early lets you quickly progress and nicely sets you up for that
@undone vessel yeah this work too.
Is there a way of countering Lucius’ group shield?
@pale monolith just win idk how. 😁 Most time just lost ainz or joker. Insta
Am stuck
(sorry)
Funnyn't
@novel adder here's my current lineup and units, hopefully something decent can be made. I'm totally willing to redo my resonating crystal if needs be, I've hard stalled in the game for the last couple of weeks so I'm just looking for any progress in something 
My best heroes / the ones I use in campaign are Rowan, joker, talene, Silvina and sometimes thoran/Arden, so they're they ones with duras and mythic mostly
You need a line-up for campaign or for Arena
Joker is attached to my 160 Mirael please ignore the double legendary copies of her, I messed up making a second L+
For arena / legends challenger @pale monolith
Well you only need 2 good line-ups
My first lineup there is significantly worse than my other two, I just dump it on whichever team of theirs has the highest stat. My other two teams are still losing to much weaker teams though, and the comps are just guesswork and don't seem very effective 
Try:
- Talene, Thoran - Front row;
JOKER, Ferael , Tasi/Rosaline - Back row;
This will be the stronger team - Brutus, Rowan - Front row;
Arden, Damion, Lyca - Back row;
More info if needed
To win find someone with a pretty weak line-up, put your 2nd team against the weak line-up and your stronger team with the other team
Any ways to counter Lucius’ group shield?
@pale monolith thanks for meme review)
can you help with passing stage also?

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i tried a little different comp because Safya gets killed by Silvina before even setting her shield
Is Daimon your carry or is Eironn your carry
i just use both
they have +20 si
eironn have better gear
It's not reccomanded to run 2 carriers in 1 team
Try:
Tasi, Brutus - Front row;
Lorsan, Safyia, Eironn - Back row;
😂
Bump
@undone vessel so im assuming joker is linked to niru.
you need to do some upgrades though since you dont have a carry to progress with in campaign.
maybe upgrade izold as a carry.
Either way..
i'd probably run something like
rowan talene; rosaline mirael fawkes
brutus thoran; saveas lyca arden
wukong skreg; tasi ferael joker
its a start.. but you have to adapt to people around you. i'd encourage watching your battles and see what's beating what.. matchup is very important.
if you upgrade izold.. you can run something like izold talene tasi rowan arden/flex pick
main problem though is you need to progress your crystal
@novel adder thanks for the response! Joker is currently on L+ Mirael (only very recently upped Niru) but I don't use her for anything else currently. I'm hoping Joker can carry me, some people seem to have gone really far through the campaign with him but some people are less positive on it, maybe I should try somebody else 
I'll try out these teams. Ime daimon and saurus eat me up so I tend to avoid them lmao
im currently at chapter 26 ,have a lot of t1 stones and daemons gear is maxed what should i focus on next? einz? or use the swamp scroll on shemira to upgrade eiron?

You already have 3 carriers, using the swap scrolls would be absolutely useless and a waste. You already have everything for Ainz comp except for Albedo , you can garrison and run Ainz comp or go with JOKER as a carrier.
thanks i ll garrisson Albedo then and level her up a bit
She could die quite easly without 3/9 but with her SI you can use her if you would run JOKER since it helps all Dimensionals
yeah i see
Should I gather some common heros and turn them elite+ or should I just use one of my heroes
??
Should I Use existing legends + to get a mythical. Or should I gather fodder and use those to get my legend + to mythical. Is what I meant.
Fodder, that's indeed logical
Don't feed A tier heros, only L+
And please, stop ascending Thane
Why
I means isn't he a good aoe
There are way better LB heroes that you should prioritize over Thane?
Oka then
Maybe Ferael instead of Lyca?
Far?
farael
Dosen't get to use Fear?
I can get a hireling
nope just instant death bcs Shem locks on him
Not on Brutus?
nope
Why? It makes no sense, Brutus is front row
Maybe drop Arthur and put Rowan front row, and put Brutus where Rowan was to keep Athalia busy?
She should use it on Rowan or Ainz
so which lineup
...
Seems to be doing worse
I have no idea then
Help pls
pls!!
what is your question?
- STOP ASCENDING HEROS TO L IF YOU CAN'T ASCEND TO L+
- WHY DID YOU ASCEND TWO ROWANS TO L
- Try:
Lucius, Brutus/Thoran - Front row;
Talene, Belinda, Lorsan - Back row;
Maybe he just really likes Rowan)
Like Log3Log3 likes Trees
Lol
Help
Does Rosaline survive to get an ult
Nope
How should i position my team if im going to retry spam this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/829545475521773578/stage.PNG
Every unit i have levelled is shown on this one image
any idea?
I'd link Ainz to Rosaline and go with:
Lucius, Brutus - Front row;
Lyca, Rowan, Ainz - Back row;
I'd say you are reaching the begging of Shemira's downfall. If I were you I would use the swap scroll with Daimon or garrison an Ainz and link him to Shemira.
Also, if you were to put Rowan where Brutus is, after Athalia killed Rowan who would she target next
Was thinking that maybe she would target Brutus
Did that but Lucius gets insta killed
thanks 😐
I meant Brutus in front of Vedan
Tried that too but no luck
Crazy
I just want a new team honestly I'm kinda tired of my old one
Any tips how to beat this? (10-40)
pls help me
Hello, what should my mauler line up be for hunting ground ?
Also I can still switch faction, light bearer and dimensional taken, so only graveborn, mauler and wilder left
Which is best of the 3 ?
Can’t kill Isabella before she ults
Nara would be great in this instance
im a little stuck too c: anybody wanna helps ❤️ no rush
Any ideas?
Looking for help for a more decent lineup, this lineup carried me a long way, but that team is heavy cc and its killing my daimon
I am new, help me make sense of this
@bronze parrot hi
Anyone can help with this lineup
Guys need help
pls help me defeat this stage in campaign. TYIA
try thoran brutus lyca belinda lorsan. belinda has to kill vedan fast.
- stop building L heroes. ask in #classic-questions if confused
rowan 3 mira 4. rosa must ult
might try lyca instead of talene
so i remove Tasi?
daimon thoran arden mira rowan
try arden 3 rowan 5
thank you friend 😄
lucius brutus lyca rowan daimon might work.
should i try putting izold in?
Didn't help :(
id swap fera and silas tbh. dont think izold will help
update: i literally just odened the eironn and ez fix
thank you!!
putted gear on mira but didnt work. how can i help rosa to ult faster?
i think i need to ascend a hero to L ?
still have no idea what to do
if rosa doesn't ult, she's useless, so try tasi instead.
never make any hero L. ask in #classic-questions why
(other than fodder heroes)
(why is it acceptable for fodders)
because you won't get stuck at L for lack of copies, their copies are everywhere
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/617141973635301376/829757844185546752/IMG_1614.jpg any suggestions for a good base team? my current is lion, nemora, the skeleton dude whose name i forgot, belinda, and lucius (? i think that's his name ?) .
tried rowan, mira, tasi. didnt work as well.
Any tips how to win this? (10-40)
getting decimated XD jesus guess maybe just time to sit and farm for a bit
there is such a thing as hitting a wall in this game right?
did u try to put anything with daimon in the team?
yeah i forgot i didnt have any equip on her so i even equip her with stuff and still didn't pass
try something like:
daimon
---lucius
rowan
---thoran
nara/arden
equip ur daimon with the best equipment available
gotchu will do 😄 thank you @pallid horizon
ay lmk how it goes, also if you see that its close spam "Retry" always works!
i will pm you here shortly with results 😄
Hey all, quick question. Just started a few days ago. I've been using Gwyneth as my carry as I've pulled a couple right away. My 1st 5 man team is currently Gwyneth (L112), Mirael (E+81), Rowan (E81), Eironn (E+81) and Ulmus (E81) as my tank. After a ton of pulls (thank you anniversary event) I now have Lucius, Brutus, Thoran, and Daimon for available tanks. Going to reset Ulmus and then level one of my new tanks. Just wondering which one would pair well with the rest of my team as I level through campaign and other stuff.
I would like to direct you to the pinned guides by tree3 and phoenix in #classic-questions to fix WL and get a grasp on what earlygame looks like
what is "WL"?
wishlist, in the noble tavern
Hi guys what should i take?
Ima need help here, they got so much damn cc
@pale kettle before giving you a new comp, have you tried just repositioning? Talene to the front, lyca back-mid, rowan front, daimon to the back top?
Need help
@simple trench remove thane from the comp, even better put him into the trash. sadly you dont have oden, he complements belinda by portalling isabella into belinda's ult range. get Eironn into your back-mid to pull isabella in, rosaline+belinda+rowan+filler unit of either LB or wilders. Lyca/Lorsan
Probably Nara or Lucius
Ferael
Thoran
Rowan/Belinda
Brutus
Belinda/Lorsan
Havent tried rowan front but otheds yeas
Nah cc is too much, daimon doesnt exactly one shot anything here rn
Nvm put estrilda in and some rng shit happened and daimon duked on everyone
If I had a team with Alna, Lucretia, Rowan, and Eironn, who would be a good 5th hero?
What is the best daimon comp for PvP without rowan?
Lyca or skriath.
Lyca it is!
Who would be your Frontline?
Alna and idk
I suppose Lucretia.
Would that be more effective than rowan frontline
Unsure. Depends on how much your alna is built
I was briefly debating putting in saurus
Lucretia can be used in her own team if shes 30 and 3/9 minimum. Eironn team tend to go "5pull" with skriath
I'll focus on lucretia then, and have lyca in the back
I use talene in the 5 pull team, as the frontline dies quick
In pve, respectively
Luc is my favourite hero, she's bonkers. I use her in lorsan, lvl1 hypo, and 2 lvl1 wilders or a cc option (gorvo or athalia)
I need suggestions for Lineup for Wrizz and Soren.
I tried checking few sites but most look old...
I feel like I'm not able to do enough dmg which i could do at my level. Also i surprisingly use Baden inhere and not Mortas, cecila rowan or belinda..
Can i improve this / if not, why is this Baden working well ?
What about arthur for frontline, alna, lucretia, rowan, lyca
Good question. I know at least Grez and Saurus are a great idea for soren
Rowan would help survival and energy
I survive fully
With rowan i die, with belinda i die.. mortas dies within 45, with cecila also i die in last 30secs.. idk why this fricking baden makes my heroes stay alive
Distracting with shadows maybe?
Yeah but why do they survive the fire rain
Isabella wrecks you?or vedan
Both
Unsure which abilities are unlocked at this lvl. Try rowan instead of thoran, belinda top and eironn middle
Thanks will give it a try
Any suggestion?
If your heroes die before the end, put in Cecilia
Hello!
Looking for some help with my lineup. Im new to the game, have bunch of heroes and no clue what to do with them
@onyx blaze i think u can start by going to pins in #classic-questions and read the pictures for new players
@grand spoke then why you post here the same question? Go use your suggestion for your lineup issue as well 🤷🏻♀️
I wasnt being rude.... u made heroes into legenderies when u dont have copies to make them mythic which makes them stuck at L ... also from your heroes you probaly need to adjust wishliste but do wath you want 🙂
I can already see that shintaro has a way better start because they are perfectly following the guides pinned in #classic-questions . I highly recommend checking them out as well
I was already reading and following some internet guides adjusting my wishlist and etc..
My 5th day of playing...
You're not doing too bad. Most guides on internet are outdated and misleading though, the ones here are constantly being updated
Internet guides bad, pinned guides in #classic-questions good
This was the one i was following and from looking at the pinned - completely different wishlist
That one is actually not a very bad guide. The wishlist there should be somewhat similiar to the one pinned here. Tree3's is better tho
Tree3's guide says the same things but better and covers more topics.
Ok thank you all ill read this one as well and try to beat 9-4 somehow xD
How do I do this?
no one answered
@languid pier replace talene with nara to pull safiya
@languid pier how's your heroes positioned and artifacts?
I keep swapping until something clicks no luck so far
Try ferael also @languid pier
tyty
I highly recommend checking out the guides pinned in #classic-questions . Making heroes L without at least 4 copies is wasting fodder. Usually you want 1 carry - 1 tank - 3 supports.
@steel flower shemira need rosaline like, all the time for boosting. Now, your shemira should be already ascended from a long time, dunno why she's not yet. Try
Safiya
Lucius with dura's call
Rowan
Rosaline
Shemira
If rosaline it's too weak swap with shem
I cant figure this out. I have no Nara to pull the Isabella
@simple trench this game, works with one carry overlvled. In your case now, you should have Belinda up to 140 then lvl the others 4 to 120.then Belinda to 160 and so on. Belinda would be weak sometimes, but since you only have this, use this. Your team should work fine with
Rosaline
Belinda
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca/fawkes/some hypogean
Just swap by situation top with bottom
@royal ginkgo use Brutus instead of Lucius?
Alr il try
He just dies right away
I am lost and just a simp for Gwyn please help me be a strong simp not a weak simp
@royal ginkgo yeah he does but he tank a few sec. Try
Lyca
Brutus
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Alr I will, il get back to you
@pale kettle use That rowan
Is Rowan better than Rosaline or should I use both
Uh, I dont have a lyca lmao
I kinda like how Rosa gives Gwyn extra volleys
And with your current heroes
@pale kettle
Try
Rowan
Brutus
Gwyn
Skreg
Rosaline
Mostly dura's eye on gwyn, blade on Rosa, call on rowan, skreg something for def etc
Talene not good at low investment?
That was my thoughts in putting both of the big guys
My main weakness is a backline teleporter ganking gwyn, or typical vedan BS
Well, its hard for a while with gwyn, until you get good tanks
And gear for gwyn,furn etc
Isn't skreg a pushy tank not a protecty tank?
You dont have any better for now. Honestly, Lucius would work much much better for gwyn
But hes weak elite
So keep rowan back with gwyn all the time, rosaline is a must also, but she can be sometimes Frontline, like front of Lucius
But don't forgot to add lyca in wilder wishlist
tf do I do here, I keep getting destroyed
Man, ainz suck. If you want to use ainz, link him with shemira
I have been hitting retry a LOT, any advice?
@topaz rain I can't remember exactly, but
Eironn call
Ferael
Rowan
Saurus
Lyca?
@royal ginkgo ahh, just Google the trial name, you will find a pic with all the setups for each fight
Ah ok, forgot about that 😅
I’m getting shredded, but I’ll make some retries thanks 🙂
@topaz rain yeah, it's about eironn how fast ultimate. But you can try also ainz, just pull mehira with nara
I’ll try that too, thanks a lot ! Such an hard stage
Maybe try:
Shemira
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Ferael
I don’t have ferael 
none of my teams r working
@thorny yacht yeah, this atandra is retard. Try out to see if it works
Saurus
Eironn eye and call, try each
Lyca
Rowan
Tasi or nemora to charm ferael
How do i deal with this bloody mess
Do we get arena help here
Need help with this one, tryna push 13 fast to hopefully get the 10 faction scrolls and do a graveborn summon before daily reset
Help, idk how to beat this. Been stuck here for more than 2 weeks. Daimon +20 3/3
Rowan +30 3/3
Eironn +20 3/3
Tasi +10 3/3
Saurus +20
Ainz +10
Other mythics are +1
Im planning on using a merc, but idk who to use. If someone has a +30 9/9 alna or a +30 lucretia I would like to friend and borrow one. My id is 123300286
Up SI eironn
@pale kettle mhm,have you tried eironn vs athalia to see if he can survive?
Daimon
Rowan
Eironn
1Tasi/2brutus
1Lyca /2safiya
athalia crits for 4 mil
Well, try rowan vs athalia then
Daimon
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Safiya
I'm curious if safiya gonna buff or not with silvina
Any tips@for this cancer double cc team
Not that cancer team. Do you have nara? @pale kettle
@brave oriole yep, just used her in middle and she pulled mira and daimon focused her, finally
@vapid field try something like
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca/rowan
Eironn
Rowan /lyca
@pale kettle nice 🤓
@stable summit try
Nara/ferael
Arthur/rowan
Ainz
Rowan/Arthur
Albedo
@muted dust doesn't look that hard, just 5x pull won't help you here. Replace chicken with tasi. Also, don't use call on rowan, use chalice
Yeah gotta get past the althalia deleting me on the first 2 seconds every retry @brave oriole
@stable summit maybe ainz is lacking some gear, I remember mine tanking
Yeah I have no dimensional faction gear. Just T2 gear for other factions
It should be your main target, ainz full gear
ive just swapped belinda for eironn, could not stand thinking about this swap scroll and decided to go for it, now using izold, eironn, joker, rowan, rosaline or tasi
isnt im too weak? im 285 lvl fighting vs 340lv
Nah, later the gap goes up to 150lvls
So, eironn without lyca is weak, if you gotta use eironn, you need also lyca
@pale kettle play the 5x pull as much you can
Yeah just need to save up for dimensional gear for ain’z I guess
Mhm, try on Brutus slot Arthur to see if survives
Then replace fereael with nara, and pull safiya
Nah, Arthur doesn't. Ainz can't quite ult twice, usually dies before Rowan ults.
@stable summit anyway, eironn with call may work better here
Eironn call
Ferael or Saurus
Lyca grace
Rowan chalice
Safiya
@vapid field what's your setup right now?
had anyone beaten 28 60?
Brutus Alby
AinzRowanNara
Rowan gets obliterated up front and the rest followed.
@vapid field try
Albedo
Rowan call
Ainz
Arthur
Nara
She does, but sometimes she dodge
dont you love it when a baiden clone just autos for 3 bloody million??
Yeah, sometimes
Any recommendations? Been using Izold and Daimon but it seems like everyone dies too fast even when using brutus/thoran. Any unit will die on spot 5 from athalia first hit if that helps
sounds like you need some good gear and a dodge tank to deal with athalia then
Can someone help me make 2 teams for hunting fields? I’m using aims as my carry
@brave oriole I used five pull cuz tasi banishes my daimon for forever
my tasi doesn't last long enough to banish anyone
if I use nara, ferael and kelthur kill my daimon very fast
wait nvm somehow something changed over the last 2 weeks and now tasi banishes my eironn
Any help
lorsan instead of safiya (in lyca's position), if eironn can pull both enemy safiya and saveas and kill them, you should be good
Anybody got some advice for me?
I have Lorsan at E+ is that fine?
@weary trench I suggest rowan, brutus top, daimon, eironn, lyca bottom. If daimon dies to shemira before daimon can ult, swap rowan and brutus. If rowan is not SI 30 yet, you may not need him, replace with thoran or another tank
@high marlin yeah its fine. Honestly if tasi is not important, you can replace tasi with like a daimon
Ty
Yooooooo, thank you so much. 2nd try
Rowan and Tasi killed both Brutus and Lyca at the end lmao
Usually I reset immediately if Eironn dies but now ig I can't
yw, skreg is hard countered by lorsan tbh. Also eironn hates brutus but sometimes you can't be picky 😛
Yeah they both will always be a pain in my butt
Any chance I can pick your brain again?
Arden always messes me up so I gun for him first
put daimon in the back row and switch daimon and rowan with brutus and lyca @weary trench
what will happen is daimon shields before arden roots you, so daimon is free
the core of your team is daimon, and the main tank is brutus. The goal is for daimon to kill something before brutus dies
How are you so good at this?? 1st try.
And @weary trench this team can probably push to 3x power unless you hit a hard team
Yeah, that's how I've already pushed to near the end of Chapter 21. I tried to be pretty optimal about everything. And the game keeps giving my Daimon so I'll keep giving him stars.
I'll say it now, daimon hates the following in order of most annoying to least: pure cc heroes(tasi, ezizh, etc) energy drain heroes (ferael, isabella, etc), high burst (silvina, ira, etc), high regen (TALENE, ulmus, etc) @weary trench Also I can help more if u join my guild, I'm usually not active in this channel
what should my pvp defense team be? lost on who to use with my 6 crystal slots for pve & pvp 
ainz it
Daimon
Wukong
Rowan
Lyca
Mehira
@muted dust thanks for letting me know about Lorsan lol. He never crossed my mind before
oh and silas, rosa, brutus, ferael in the last row unincluded, that change anything? and thank you so much!
You can replace lyca with Silas? Idk im not good with lineups. Ig just try using both and see what works. That daimon should help alot tho
okok tyvm 
@muted dust any help on this one
put eironn behind golus imo, put a tank to stall brutus, remove lorsan
Joker got the job done after a few tries
@muted dust I'd really appreciate it if you'd help me out my dude
@weary trench retry until you get it.
Niru seems to kill me every single time
retry until he doesn't. @weary trench what SI does your daimon and rowan have
Daimon 23, Rowan 16
then you don't need rowan. Rowan without SI 30 doesn't help daimon much, replace with thoran. If thoran dies in 2 seconds then put lyca there and use ferael/nara/tasi in the backline, whichever one doesn't die immediately
Lol
daimon teams for me is just everything dies except daimon, brutus, and with enough rng eironn. Brutus dies in 8 seconds and daimon kills everything with RNG
If daimon isn't the last to die, you're doing something wrong and need to rework your formation

@weary trench why don't you put daimon Frontline?
I mean, it's rlly dumb most of times to put Backline your overlvled hero, even if daimon
@brave oriole is there a reason to put a hero in the front? for me, if I put my daimon in front it gets cc to death
or just outright killed.
Well some ppls just invest into daimon and nothing else, no gear etc, so at some point you get stuck
Ppls should invest in each faction, one hero at least
Need a lineup for this, been stuck on it for a long time
like me hehe But imo, for gear, its always a choice. You have to choose which hero to give mythic gear to, which hero to give T1s to, and I just prioritize daimon over everyone else. But what ends up happening is that daimon has 150k more power than your other heroes. This 100k to me doesn't really matter when I'm fighting against 3x my power deficit. But i guess everyone has their own preference
@north dragon pulling shem, is bad, bcs tasi banish her, so maybe replace tasi with lyca?
wow i just died in a ms
Well, if you want to daimon, try
Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Tasi
Daimon
so here the biggest problem imo is isabella. then raine then shemira
But daimon need +20
ya, shes at 19 rn
Isabela hit Brutus, then tasi sleep all
If you want to eironn pull, you need talene I guess
But i would try daimon first, just be sure there's no more than 2 dura's call
Also can I have help with this
Lyca s dying right away
She does, but she's for the haste only
and @north dragon I would recommend using this team for yours
Who becomes my damage dealer after lyca dies?
that depends on tasi surviving?
Normally daimon win vs tasi
idk my daimon hates tasi a lot. Normally tasi banishes daimon so daimon can't do anything for 4 sec which destroys the snowball
But you can try
Daimon
Eironn
Rowan
Tasi
Lyca or so
also how good is daimon when hits 20
He's good, but still need a strong team, since it's not a
Anyway, nothing better than ainz
anything facing ferael dies very fast. Even my daimon. Only thing that doesn't die is brutus
and this is me being biased on ainz but ainz just dies very very fast so I don't see his use. But this is also likely due to him being underleveled and no gear
Eh, eironn pull kick ferael ass, it's Khasos the dmg et
Well, ainz alone, yeah, not very strong
But with albedo and another dim, Imba team
Have you checked albedo si description?
I think another reason why I have this bias is that I only tried him when my daimon faced problems so ainz just got burst fast
yeah albedo and ainz together helps a lot
and ty your formation worked @brave oriole with a bit of RNG its winnable
Ofc, ainz need shoes and weapon at least, should be your priority
Forget about daimon, ainz is the newking
@north dragon wrong positions, Brutus up tasi down front, then lyca up rowan middle and daimon
@muted dust chap 31 4 it starts
just say the positions. 1-5
I did upside
l
Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Tasi
Daimon
With more space :nerd:
A few times to see if daimon works well
idk i keep getting melted
OK, have ferael?
ya
Then try Brutus rowan, ferael lyca daimon
oh wait, it fnally worked when i put Safiya in repalcing lyca
🤓
Hope this will help you,I cleared that stage last week
Back in time, I used to finish chap 24 under lvl 240. No furn or tree or else 🤓
Can’t progress. This is what I got. Any tips?
@pine wing talene Frontline always. And use rosaline middle
Like this?
sadly no
just got daimon tho and put him in the crystal
passed 3 levels already thank you! @brave oriole
Np, and try to get rowan
im trying haha
I CANT DO IT
show lineup @pale kettle
oh you've got talene so you should be absolutely fine, rowan is not needed, lyca would useful to have there instead of him but hogan or brutus would work, you kinda want at least a copy of brutus (i know he's either from ch13 completion or ch14 completion rewards)
Oh tbis is really outdated, sec
Oh if you have lyca put her frontline and replace rowan with her and put daimon backline
ah ok, so rowan should be able to frontline a small bit then, i presume arden is getting targetted there though, so could you show your full list of heroes? (oh yeah you've also got buffed isabella to deal with)
oh great you have brutus, you should use him in basically all your stages then
so what you could do is
daimon
brutus
rowan
talene
lyca
If that vedan becomes a problem then you might have to try and get arden to live and nara the silvina
Also I'd level daimon some more instead of having rowan 141 if you have the dust
Brutus just dies so fast tho 😦
I cant lvl him, need all crystal mons to be lvl 140 first :/
hm, he's very good after 141 (brutus). Ah ok mb
@pale kettle charm ferael
So if brutus isn't good enough then
Daimon
hogan
rowan
talene
lyca
It's kind of a problem that you don't have 2 frontliners, if you could get arden to root then saurus would've been a good option for vedan
brutus doesn't need ascensions, once he's 141 you'll see how good he is
I cant get him to 141 till i 141 my last 2 on crystal then
yeah ik but as soon as you do start using him and you'll see what i mean, have you tried the lineup i said?
Not yet, im at the gym rn
Just tried it with hogan, he got deleted in a split second 🤣
I have the chest that gives u one copy and it has lucius, shiuld i attempt to go for him or he wont make a diff?
@brave oriole got it. Stuck on next multi now. I'll be back soon
no don't, while he's decent at this point, it's not worth it, since he falls off quite early
Ahhh okok
What would you guys recommend I do?
Wth, 3 hypogeans
I got super lucky, but I got no idea if they're good xd
@raw rune should i just get the 10 fac scrolls from that chest and try to summon 8th daimon and ascend him? 🤣
This will be last question I'm answering since I'm going off now but no save it until you're on 8th copy of a hero in that chest, faction scrolls are never worth it in those
Ahh okok, and cya man ty for trying
what should my team be against the event’s phantom bosses? it’s lorsan, lyca, mehira, saurus, skriath rn
anything I should try before I use a mercenary?
I am so overleveld and i still cant beat this
A bit stuck
Do I need to pray to RNGesus or could I make some changes to make it easier?
How built is your Rowan?
This is very slow without the potion.
I think Daimon can survive frontline. Swap him with Thoran and replace Thoran with Rowan
If Rowan has good gear he can frontline instead as well
You can also try swapping Lyca with Ferael. See which does better and the rest is rng
having problems w this stage.. any help will be appreciated >_<
And what is the problem? :)
Ferael is.
You cant let him stand there stacking spirits.
Yeah you need to burst him fast so pull him
who should i swap in my main team for?
Saurus
Rowan
Tasi
Eironn
Talene/Lyca
Try like this @languid skiff
Not sure if Eironn can front pull without Lyca.
Hey man, we were on Afk cats together 🤣
Yes - go with 1 tank, 1 carry, 3 backline supports
The world is such a small place sometimes 🤔
Also always level up your carry until the cap, and the others afterwards
There is a beginner guide pinned in the questions channel, I'd strongly suggest you to read it. I did it too late, and made many early mistakes
can i get some help with mauler tower 300
What can I change hero’s with I am stuck on this level
any ideas to improve?
Hi @pale kettle I would put Lyca instead of Hogan and put her frontline. See if that help. Also Reset Hogan, and put all levels into Mirael until she reaches lvl 140
okay thanks
@sour ledge maybe try another artifact on Skriath ? Like the new mage one, or cacile if he dies too fast. Does he manage to ult ?
no, he usually dies after the forced move to ezizh
but mage artifact works a bit better on him, thanks - at least gets hit ult off sometimes 😄
that's great news, keep trying and trying. Mauler tower can sometimes be a purge lol
Can’t get past this stage, don’t know what to alter, 9-20
Been trying different lineups but i am being shredded
@teal needle your team is looking very decent. How about putting wukong instead of Tasi or instead of Silas to get the faction bonus. That might give you the edge. Also, try repositionning around the heroes until Daimon can ult
Also if you can reset brutus to lvl 100 and put Daimon lvl 140, then it'll be worth it
will try that too, since brutus is mostly there to tank dmg
his level doesn't really matter, as long as he has his invincibility. It's always better to put your carry hero to max level possible
also, if i reset brutus i still have to get a champion to 100 lvl for the pentagram
so idk if i can get daimon to 140
i can reset my shemira too which is 120 lvl
since she is not in my starting lineup, and then get 2 champs to 100 and try and push daim to 140?
@teal needle my bad i thought brutus was lvl 120. Reset shemira to lvl 100. and put extra XP into daimon
that's what I meant sorry 
no worries, gonna do it now
Who else would you suggest going to 100? Now that I reset shemira too @violet igloo
who should i swap/use more?
@teal needle you can put Rosa lvl 100
okay so im getting them to lvl 100 and then pushing daim to 140, hopefully that helps me get past the stage
@winter nebula your box is looking not bad at all. Keep putting all levels in Mirael. Id use :
Tasi
Brutus
Mirael
Estrilda
Wukong/Athalia
you can get wukong for free
Rowan and eironn frontline tasi lyca daimon
Im surprised that you are stuck there try to use:
Rowan Lyca front line , Tasi, Eironn back mid, Safiya @pseudo palm
but Safiya sign 10, Eironn sign 20 no Funiture
Sorry for reposting, just want to get the faction scrolls before the faction changes
doesnt matter
die :v
Might I ask for a bit of help from the experts? 😁
try: 1. Brutus (any ascension), 2. Rowan, 3. Daimon, 4. tasi, 5, lyca/fera
Give it a few tries @pseudo palm
Its not a big deficit, but its still a deficit.
Do t expect to win on 1st try.
try using 1. brutus 2.talene 3. daimon, 4. mehira 5. tasi
baden too strong
can anyone help me with a lineup for this? eiron, baden, rosa, ferael, brutus in the last row
@exotic ore and my Daimon no funiture
doesnt matter, keep trying the stage multiple times for rng. you are overleveled anyway so it shouldnt be hard
You dont need any of that.
try daimon rowan arden mehira silas
yes
Gave them my best gear too, only Daimon gets to ult and just before he dies
how many times did you try?
~10 since you said
I tried with Brutus Talene Daimon Nemora Shemira multiple times before I asked and I didn't have much success :/
did you try a merc?
other 4 instantly dying, with no one getting killed
should i try crystalling someone else? lyca?
ideas for beating mauler tower 80 with this lineup?
can switch around resonating crystal
if you can, overlevel your daimon more nvm that wont work
not rn unfortunately, capped at 140 bc the other 4 are powder deficient 😭
Already used one on 17-40 yesterday I'm afraid
trying for rng/maybe try lyca seems like your best bet
alrighty, tysm!
not possible?
all you have is brutus, just an rng fest, try anoki and numisu to support him, or merc someone else
Guess I'll just wait for the reset in a couple of days, thanks for the help! My team is just not good enough on their own it seems
NP!
ty
I've been progressing fairly quickly recently, it was only yesterday that I used a merc for another 40, didn't expect to need it again before the reset 😄
could my team be better than it already is? i can upgrade one of my wilders to legendary and i just got the windchild
Stop ascending to L if you can't ascend to L+
You might hear about how good Rowan is but early-game he dosen't shine as much. Silas and Talene are the best healers early-game.
I suggest you make Mirael your carrier since Saurus can be a carrier early game but later he will die quickly and you'll struggle.
Go with:
Saurus, Lucius - Front row;
Rowan, Mirael, Tasi - Back row;
over 50 times and i can't defend the stage
*cry a lot
Maybe try an Lorsan so Baden will die quicker?
nothing changes
@pale monolith i just got raku, does this change anything?
Lorsan work way better with carriers that deal damage to all enemies
He was just added and we don't know how to use him yet, so no
okay thanks 🙂
👍
Congrats
12 stages left :v
Till multi-fight
Is here the right place to ask what my furniture wishlist should be? This is my deck
Again T_T
Pls
can anyone help with mu formation?
I think u need to focus the velan so put your Belinda on the bottom
so do i put belinda in the middle
Switch Belinda and Safiya
Help pls
atleast take the screeshot when all your heroes are loaded, so then people can say what you could maybe put in the resonating crystal
Don't have anything good
@agile roost you should get ainz maxed lvl at all.
Then focus in rowan. Swap lyca and Rosa lvls, then try a team with lyca ainz rowan middle, Brutus etc
Any good lineups for KT500?
Been stuck here a week now team up gave me my best run so far once
Thanks did that and it worked now I'm suck on 14-40
@mellow swan I dunno, try
Eironn dura's call
Ferael
Lyca with grace
Rowan
Saurus or safiya
Restart if lyca dies in athalia dash
@agile roost I don't know what 15 40 is
Is there a way to beat this with current resources? Feeling unbeatable.
@upper fog you should play diff on lvls
Like getting your carry 220,instead of 5x 200
yeah wanted to have all on 200 for the faction towers
Well, Lucius is pretty good to use, he just need good shoes for mspd, and dura's call
Is your Belinda geared?
Not lucky on boots
Try to enchant the shoes for more mspd
I dunno what team can you try, make a test with
Belinda
Rosaline
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca
I'm curious if Lucius shield goes fast up
tryed it, his shield goes up, but enemy boss aka Merinda still burns the whole grp with one ult
Okay,try
Lucius
Lyca
Rowan
Bel
Rosa
@stone halo swap nara ferael
Did it, used your line up but whiped ... Rosa died instantly in a sec ... swapped her for Saurus for success
Thank you mate for the help 🙂
I can +30 one of these ... should I do it on Saurus or Joker ? #
That way you can push more even the faction tower, with something overlvled from each faction
I would Saurus, more use. But don't rush yet
Saurus heal on+30 gonna help you a lot
Okay got it. Will switch the Fokus from Belinda than to Saurus/Shemira (linked to Joker) for now. Great help here thanks a lot
Np
@stone halo
Nara
Lyca
Eironn
Rowan
Daimon
not working so far
Have been struggling with the Tasi, can wipe everyone else with an Erionn comp, but then Tasi proceeds to wipe everyone
@stone halo then try again
Eironn
Saurus
Rowan
Lyca
Safiya
@verbal bluff go ainz
Ainz
Arthur
Rowan
Tasi/talene
Albedo
@brave oriole Much appreciated 👌
@verbal bluff when you use eironn comp vs tasi, you need safiya or Saurus to kill tasi
Do I need merc for this?
@foggy grove
@simple trench you might need to reset some of lvls on some of your pool and pour it all on your carry. Your carry should always be overleveled than the rest of your pool (pre-crystal break ofc)
Try
Chicken
Safiya
Tidus
Skreg with call
What ever last slot until it works, skreg with call should help a lot anyway
Hello, I need help with 10-40, any ideas?
I struggle to progress atm, any recommendations for a decent comp? Gwyn, Lyca and Farael are little invested
@willow vale you need gear for tasi so she can Frontline. A good team would be for most of the stages, rowan tasi, safiya eironn lyca, with some replacements sometimes, nara to pull safiya mehira, sometimes ferael instead of safiya and so on
my tasi is fully geared, does she need +20?
Anything I can do to pass this?
@willow vale 15
Man, still having trouble on 29-60. Is Grace or Chalice best on Rowan when tanking althalia?
Chalice, but this all rng, if he tank or not. What are you trying atm, what setup? @stable summit
Nah, don't. Have you tried lyca vs athalia? No need tasi here tbh
Put Saurus back of eironn, rowan front of Brutus
Lyca w/ grace?
Eye
and Eironn w/ call and Saurus w/ Chaosbringer of course... I'll try it out a couple times here
Yeah
Why don't you put heroes in the crystal?
oh wait would that be a good idea
Brutus is the best for tanking Isabela top frontline
@brave oriole ferael having a tough time and safiya eats me up on the top side. Can’t get her down fast enough
Got to just Brutus and Nimisu a couple times, but Brutus wrecks me lol
@stable summit lyca dies?
Yeah
Insta?
Sometimes no, but most of the time yes
Have you tried putting Rowan and Daimon on your frontline?
@twilit mango you need rosaline to dance with silvina. Try
Ferael
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Rosa
@stable summit well man, then just daimon shitty stage.
Try instead of fereael, daimon
Thx
And if not enough, Brutus to tank athalia, lyca front of eironn @stable summit
@brave oriole barricade on daimon?
yeah, still rough :l
Ye rip not working, ima wait for afk rewards 😔
@stable summit well, keep try
should work in the end, try eironn rowan front , ferael lyca daimon back
@mighty sage is rowan dying insta by silvina?
He stays alive for about 15s, main issue for this whole stage has always been isabella doing her ult and just wiping the whole squad
Try Cecilia instead of talene
I guess that you have tried already talene front of daimon
Tried that but she’s too weak to kill Isabella it just makes her ult faster. And yea I tried talene infront as well. Also I tried lorsan to link Isabella and grez but didn’t help
Well, daimon use call?
I got blade on him I can try call
Put rosaline Front of daimon with some good gear, at least rowan will be free. And always call on daimon
Okay so ferael brutus rowan rosa dameon?
Yea
almost worked had like 2 left alive so I’ll keep spamming it maybe it’ll work. Ty!
Gl with it. You can also try lyca instead of ferael, maybe works better
Yea it’s always grez and Isabella left at the end since dameon ult can’t kill em I’ll play around with it
Not sure if you use fawkes who will coffin, I think it will brhk not Isa, but you can test
What should I merc for 25-60
Hi
this worked thanksss. on stage 40 now hopefully i can pass it
My way of playing is unorthodox and isn't suggestible that way
If I showed you my chars you would understand
Well, then merc a lucretia +30 and 9/9
Cheeser
Wow that's just-
they got demolished 😩
Oden
Grezhul
Silas/Wukong
Thoran
Daimon
@west spire
other idea (since the levels on your GBs suck):
insert any LB unit e.g. eluard
Rakku
Gwyn
Hogan
Wukong
Tips?
I tried swapping rowan and nara to try and pull fareal but before he gets knocked down he does his scare thing which effects nara ainz and rowan and haunts them ainz survives and ults and then daimon right before ainz ults again belinda ults and wipes out daimon and ainz
@twin socket lvl max 1 hero
@ebon hazel make 1 team insted of 5 carries
try this:
daimon
rowan
ferael
talene
lyca
We if I only have one, they'll just take him away
@ebon hazel I do not think so
You aren't fighting any of the same characters I am but okay
@ebon hazel they look much easier to me
Yes but they take your carry away
@ebon hazel rosa oneshot everyone at high lvl cuz im sometimes use brutus
Yeah I know, she unironically carried me from W12 to W24
But I don't see how that's relevant
@ebon hazel when you make 1 team with controls and supports you will understand
it will get easier
if you make ainz highest power you don't need the other 3-4 carries, fawkes and tasi will just waste their coffins and banishes on ainz and do nothing
@maiden marsh now imagine how much u need to spend on full ainz comp
could try something like ainz daimon and 3 supports
Tasi
Rowan
Eiron
Brutus
Daimon
damn in 1 try, wow ur a genius
Maybe try:
Belinda
Tasi
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
im actually shocked, u helped me beat that in 1 try
I mean that's literally just default+ a tank
@maiden marsh dont got certain heroes for that all the time
But you can search
how much do diamonds you think i can get if i save up until chap 30
you're overleveled enough that you won't need to perfectly copy anyone anyways
Few hundred thousand
Bro i just dont know enough about character counters and placements
Just ask a question about a new character every day, that's what I'm doing and it works fine