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I praise you for that nara
Gwyneth is almost dead and she sees use late-game so that's why you're struggling, I think it would be best to link Ainz to her. Also I doubt that Rowan survives enough to get his ult front row. And Saurus will die pretty quickly, he isn't good tanking. Again, you can link Gwyneth to Ainz and invest in him or you can use the swap scroll with Daimon because he is a lower investment
alr imma link ainz and yeah rowan dies
Put him back row to get his ult. His ult will be important for ainz and Rowan's +30 is just amazing, I get Ain's ult in 5 secs
oh daim
Lyca + Ainz + Rowan
👍
saurus is a beast tho
Nobody helped me qwq
Last 50 cards got me nothing
Isn’t first 10 cards higher pull chances
Help help thx
From 40 pulls I got 3 Twins
I beat this with izold, can’t recommend his +30 enough
You could try izold Arthur rowan up the bottom half
Probably go thoran and ferael for stall
Otherwise I’d try gwyn comp
hmm ok thanks imma merc a +30 izold n try
haha yeah w rowan back he is pretty use full bcs he can damage 2 or more at the same time when infront of him
what should be my next GB? oden, daymon, thoran, grez?
daimon
Any tips on what to do when hitting the fodder wall.
Do I start getting fodder cards from events instead of other rewards
any recommendations for this cunt stage
Have you tried swapping Ainz and rowan? His potion ability currently only affects brutus and ainz I think?
Haha alg vedan is a real pain in the butt sometimes when he ults. Could maybe try some higher dps to kill him before he ults?
Also maybe tasi might help with that (her cc is alright with sleep and she gets faction bonus too so idk)
Can someone help?
I feel like Daimon isn't so good front roe, also maybe a Ferael where Lyca is
Help
Still think it would be nice going with Thoran
alr so thoran instead of Daimom
Dosen't really matter you just need someone who tanks the most
Even tho it says that Daimon is a tank, he isn't really
Link Ainz to Lyca to unlock his SI
Help ❤️
Don't have any of the primordial stuff to upgrade it and by the time hes about to activate his ult he dies or shud I just do it @pale monolith
Do it, you won't have to wait with his SI
help pls ❤️
Ok
I did it how do I quickly get 5 primordial emblems
Store?
Nothing there
You should've also got some chest in your inventory
Shud I refresh it and I used them
yeah you should probably have enough to upgrade it once minimum
Any other way to get it
check your peaks of time quests maybe?
Nah nothing there
Should still be in Voyage of Wonders
sorry, i dont have any more idea
fesh do you have some ideas to help me clear that stage?
should i reset belinda to get resources, then max out rowan or eironn to 161 to get their new skill, but tasi will be only 140 or less?
Ainz
Brutus
Rowan
Tasi
Lyca
Artifacts looks good
No need to go eoth Eironn if you already have a carrier
i tried it yesterday many times
and i couldnt pass it
Merc
should i try this way?
and go with rowan?
Yea
i just realized that if i do this, brutus will be only 140 too
would it be a problem?
No, the rule is to usually keep your carrier lvl 40 over others
sorry but i do not understand, whats mean that "the carrier"
you mean the main heroes which i always use? like ainz in my typ
A carry is the main unit that deals damage and kills the enemy for your team
What skill does it unlick
to be honest, i dont know
You can click on Skills and see the lvl
Yeah pretty good advantage
Ainz 200
im out of ideas
fesh i mean whats the next step to beat that level xD
i couldnt afford this much mana
What level
I have 200M mana but never enough dust
so, first of alll, i should upgrade rowan to 161, reset lyca to 140, and after rowan got 161, the rest of the dust goes for AINZ? whats with that?
No, you should upgrade Ainz
and reset rowan to 140 too?
No need
okay, so upgrade only ainz, dont bother the rest of the team
Yes, untill it requires you to upgrade the others. I would go then with Rowan adter you done with Ainz
okay, i could upgrade him to 176 would it be enough?
Wakatta shishou!
Weeb
make ainz 200
I wonder who said that
❤️
yeah i wonder too
Help
i did it guys, but the stage just turned worse than it was.
i really want to pass this stage beacause after it my ainz can go mythic+
Ferael
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Ainz
What stage
the same as before
Maybe a Ferael instead of Lyca
but i dont have ferael
Same and passed some stages cuz of him just for the linking ability
Nope get destroyed
Crazy
me too 😦
Any help? Keep getting shredded.
lyca
>tasi
rowan
>brutus
daimon
Help pls
mhhhhmmmm fesh the thoran aint it just been trying 2 hours @pale monolith
Any ideas? I’ve tried lorsan like someone suggested to link Isabella but didn’t work
I ran that for a while and the Tasi and Lyca side gets shredded then it crashes to the Daimon side and I still get shredded...
You could add the two new heroes in slot 3(Wilder) and 4(Light bringer) and have your M+ Sirberus (or however you call him) in slot 2 then maybe Bruise(Mauler) in slot 1 and lastly, put Lyca or daimon or rowan in slot 5
if these doesn't work then idk :/
You can switch domains and Peggy place
You could try Ainz in slot 5 and peggy in slot 2, Rosaline in slot 1 and luicus in slot 3, and lasy have Luya in slot 4 if not put luicus on slot 4 and have luya in slot 3
Door stuck
overlevel carry (shem), not tanks
They die otherwise and the game is over
Could you suggest something? Cause atm it's a bit difficult to keep them alive
Currently I'm managing it well, but i lack DPS.
shemira doing damage and not dying is more important
part of the dead tanks problem can also be attributed to warek being literal ass, use wukong or try peggy or something
Wu kong gets one shot however tomorrow I'll make him elite+
And Warek is getting weaker with each stage, I'll try something
don't buy wukong from lab store, buy arthur. if wukong isn't doing anything, drop him
@maiden marsh ty you're the guy

can someone help me with this stage?
Can someone help me out, IK I’m a noob but this level is rlly difficult.
Need help pls I’m a noob 😅
I've been stuck on this for a while and need help killing Isabella and Bruise and that Maulaer hero in the back (mostly there whole team)
re still waiting U -U
Help
Can someone help please?
@pale kettle I find it unlikely that 220 shem can tank there try putting daimon front and maybe replace shem with lyca for haste?
shem's time has passed looking at your heroes, use tasi/rowan/lyca instead of her and talene and you will find more success
The tasi and arden just tear up my team and the nemora heals everyone so I can't kill anything
Any tips? Been trying a few things but this Eironn and Mehira just shred
Any help guys?
Help
If my team are maxed lucious, shemira, rosaline, rowan, tasi -- should I use the full swap scroll on tasi -> twins?
You can't use Swap Scrolls on Celestials/Hypogean
Lucius and Shemira fall hard later one si look forward to another carrier
Oh damn
Well you could actually use the Swap Scroll on Shemira.
I just cleared 26-60 amd starting on 27
And Shemira still working?
Who should i swap my carry to?
Daimon since he is also low investment
Yeah, shes still working. Full T2 and +30 si
And Furniture?
Only 4/9
Also awful mistake to get Shemira +11 or more
I think it would be pretty decent to go with Daimon. If you had 9/9 Ainz would have been amazing but go with Daimon
Ok thanks for the info
👍
try nemora 4 and raku 3 maybe.
stop building L heroes
swap rowan and daimon maybe. alternatively brutus rowan fera daimon tasi or something like that
mehira usually needs to a nara or athalia to counter, any ascension.
try one of these https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=30&stage=60
rowan brutus lyca daimon fera might work.
brutus lyca daimon rowan fera perhaps
try one of these https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=46
show entire pool. not enough info
read the pins in #classic-questions
lucius brutus wu raine estrilda might work
brutus thoran gwyn rowan lyca might work
stop building L
theo brutus raku rowan izold maybe
stop building L
talene brutus daimon rowan lyca maybe
See, I appreciate the idea of putting this up so people know about it, but if I come to the discord channel it’s because I already tried what I found here
Seriously.... Time runs out and I lose Everytime! Suggestions? I just used Dura Tear too... Full energy...
try putting some actual damage on your team, maybe drez or something
lol. I know that team was weak. Shot in the dark. But I have tried many. Including full out blitz AOE
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It won't compress lol
I'm on chapter 27 what setup is gonna push me through please pm me
who is better torne or grezhul?
@modern nacelle without much info to go on, I'd say Grez
What should I try to beat this level?
Try swapping the position of Lyca and Daimon. And sub in Arden instead of Eironn.
anyone have any ideas? tried swapping in brutus/tasi with no luck so far
How do you beat the area of trials for raku
google afk arena bountiful trials raku and use afk.guide
K
I don't know of this right place to ask but I need suggestions on how to beat this fight please besides waiting till Sunday to merc it as I have used merc this week already. According to an afk helper guide thing this exact team won with an elite talene. The only difference is my albedo is si29 not 30 and Arthur is 12 not 20. Do note that the team that won against this was weaker than me right now which is why it frustrating me big time
what should I 30 SI next?
U still stuck?
Albedo 30 is a big diff
Yeah I'm thinking I might just have to wait and do it on Sunday, I'll try get albedo to 30 before then and see
Albedo +30 is a 45% dmg increase for ainz. Thats HUGE
been stuck on this for a long time don’t know what i should use with my limited hero pool
Let peggy frontline she goes back and her guards stay frontline and maybe if you have an eironn let him pull Isabella into daimon?
This is winnable right
Anyone that got past gb tower 395 post lineup please
help pls. most likely one of the most infuriating stages ive come across.
Does replays in afkhelper not work? My replays should be in there as well
Still stuck on this if anyone has any ideas. Otherwise I'll just wait for merc reset
R u dying to sniper or bow man
ur the Q replay one right? The lvl 282? If so, I saw that one and left on macro for a total of like 5 hours, and nothing. I think it's the tasi dying too quick 9/10 times. when she does survive, tho, everything else goes downhill.
u must've had some godly rng
Usually arden kills me, but all of them have cc so it's pretty irritating
Oh erm can u infinate stun Arden with taisi and rowen ult who does ur taisi target
That's not how it works lol
I meant like can u put rowen against Arden if ur rowen can pull out his ult
It doesn't work like that man. Arden roots 3 people, Ferael fears, tasi banishes, nemora charms, and Morvus stuns, and all of them except from Morvus happens at the beginning of the round

Q, my savior. May I have some tips for that stage I posted 
me retrying til tasi survives
Can eironn pull frontline? Let him pull ferael can interrupt his fear and even arden root
Can’t you interrupt ardens root with a dps
Eironn can't pull for some reason when I place him in front of arden, even with lyca haste
My tasi do have T2 5* faction tho. Might be a factor
I think his pull gets interrupted
Ik dude
Most probably nemora or arden touched him then. Who does tasi banish
yea, ur prob right.
^^^
Morvus
F banished the most useless man lmao
Your gear is same as me lol, my boots on tasi is not faction as well, i only got faction in chap31
Hmm, can rowan be at frontline? Put joker back mid or replace joker with ferael
brooo how do u have such good rng? My gear is all t2 faction on daimon and rowan, eironn has a t3, and ferael has 3 t2 faction. I'm crying rn
Idk, truth said i sacrificed nemora to lilith apparently
most likely. no other explanation 
Where do you want eironn?
Oh wait, i see the problem. Remove ferael's weapon
Back bottom. Let eironn pull arden and ferael, and if rowan can survive he can cc them for abit
what u mean?
Ferael M weapon makes him fear slower, its something i will consider a really deciding factor when pushing at powercap.
No weapon, normal > fear
Yes weapon, accursed > fear
Accursed is slightly slower
wow thx, didn't know that, that's actually pretty interesting. lemme try rq
yeap ur right. Got really close here, I'll keep retrying, thanks man
got it with switching ferael to a L+ weapon
Still no luck with Ferael
You mean hes killing your team? How long does it takes for eironn to ult, or does he even ult at all?
I'll just wait for reset then
Any suggestions?
I can kill arden and Ferael, but then tasi murders everyone
Ah dont worry, chap29 and 30 will a fun trip for you
Could someone help me with my line up please
I've been using Grezhul as hyper carry with Belinda,Lucius,Solise and Rosaline but It doesn't seem to be working as well now as it did earlier on
Grezh is a tank, not a carry
He's been carrying me so far, what should I do and change
for one, i would level ankhira and saveas back to 140-160, and stop making legendary heroes
I kind of learned that I should stop doing that a bit late :x
I wanna say try using Grezhul, Lucious, Saveas, Estrilda, and either rosaline or silas
level saveas to 160 and try him as your carry
Alright I'll try that, thank you
and take morvus out of crystal and put silas in
Belinda needs to be one of the 5 you level, but no... she is a poor carry
Even nemora is getting top dmg on the stage lmao. It just sucks that by time I kill arden and Ferael I run out of gas before I can kill the other 3
your should try getting everyone to 160, and then using the heroes that are leveled from your crystal
Oke thank you so much
Saveas is a much better carry than belinda; try using him when hes 160
Your very welcome
Help to adjust teams please
Thats out of my league
@spiral quail mostly Brutus or rowan vs skreg. Now, rosaline can't help much there, so I would try something diff to help izold. Like tasi or fawkes to cc lyca, lyca for haste and that is.
Tasi
Izold
Lyca
Rowan
And maybe daimon last. Rowan should stay alive with chalice
Suggestion and I know both are great. About to finish talene to A looking for my next stargaze between twins and lucretia. In chapter 30. Thanks
Twins to M first
is there any full graveborn team? I was just doing graveborn summons so I have daimon A, nara A, ferael A, and Thoran M but only need 2 of him to A, since i only need 5 my ocd can't leave me alone till i finish it
3 days in. Been using Ainz as carry with Silas and Rosalind for support and Lucius and mezoth to tank. I’m stuck at 10-4. Any advice regarding how I should develop my heroes? My problem is that everyone dies too quickly lol
Don't use Ainz as carry untill you ascend him to M. Go with:
Lucius, Thoran - Front row;
Silas, Mirael, Rosaline - Back row;
Been going with
F: Torne + Thoran
B: Daimon + Shemira + Oden
Any tips? I’m progressing fine but I don’t want to be dumping resources in the wrong places
You mean for Graveborn Tower or normal
Well I’ve been going with the bonus. This is my campaign team
And ngl I just really like the grave born aesthetic
Going with a team for a bonus is something stupid
Also don't ascned heros to L if you can't ascend to L+
I'd go with:
Thoran, Izold - Front row;
Daimon, Nemora, Arden - Back row;
Switch Nemora for Rowan as soon as you get him
Also might help to read pins in #classic-questions
Happends
Thanks so much for the advice! 🙂
👍
Yes
are there better units to use for guild hunt?
No
That's for Twisted Relam
don't use grez, use a 3F raine or a lorsan or something
any suggestion? my team just explodes
Try to use fawkes to coffin either one in the back or Nara if you have her
For this kinda comp you need to either blitz (which you can't with Belinda carry) or cc and stall until you ult and wipe them
Any suggestions?
Help
use ainz and build a comp around him, disrupt isabella and put rowan vs thoran and brutus vs grezhul
@rigid birch okay thanks!
I have tried a few teams but I don't get enough damage at the beginning and then my team get wiped
if you havent used the swap scroll, consider swapping lucius and lyca, dont do it yet tho, keep it in mind
yea i already used it to get eironn asscended
lets pray for another one 🤞
i can start working on getting lyca up
i got select summons in 6 hours and 12000 diamonds ready
guys please help this stage is absolute pain ive been trying to beat it for the past two days
the mages and estrillda delete everything other than the daimon in the first second
the only progress ive made was adding the lyca since she lets the silas and farael gascloud and fear sometimes before the estrillda lightning thing
izold out rowan in
Help pls.I am stuck
talene, rowan, daimon, tasi, ferael
It worked.Thank you
use this comp for the whole chapter, you can occasionally slot in a nara or a lyca
I maxed eironn so sometimes i can not change eironn,lyce comp. A habit
yeah i know that feeling, just got my daimon to 9 pc too and hes literally in every comp too
I need 3 furn for daimon so bad
still dying but they seem to be surviving for like a second longer, do i use the same formation with rowan infront?
yep, try silas behind with call and daimon with eye
also dont put daimon vs estrilda
silas still dies before getting an ult unfortunately, might just need to afk some more :c
try nara instead of lyca and let her grapple mirael
no luck, its those hypogean mages they both do an 80k aoe at the start that just completely shreds my team
a talene would dearly help in this stage
Stuck again😅
swap rowan and talene
if it still doesnt work then frontline tasi and use nara on lyca
I did.Did not work
try for a bit, rng is tricky with estrilda and daimon's mid shield cycle
Who should I merc for this? Tried Athalia to counter Isabella but that doesn't work
not having 3/9 Albedo is tight. If another hero dies before her, she can have brutus bubble for 9 seconds. tho just try ainzing it put :
Albedo
--Arthur
Ainz
--Brutus
Rowan
My Ainz doesn't do enough damage to kill Isabella. After he ults, she gets enough mana to ult and shred my team
Nvm just Ainzed it
23-16, do I have a chance at squeezing through? Or should I wait until I can merc again?
Any ideas? I had been using Silas on every stage but his trial ran out
Is there any way y'all see that I can beat this level?
Some advices?
Helps
@pseudo terrace Regarding that other question about the character, I am new so would the guy be good or no ?
Yes, but only level 5 characters at a time. Having 5 higher level characters will work better than having multiple characters at lower levels
Looks like you've got 6 characters leveled up. You'll unlock resonating crystal later that lets you level up a bunch of heroes to the level of your heroes. For now, focus on leveling up 5 solid heroes
I really got nothing for this
Consider waiting a bit https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/mekk9t/big_info_you_should_not_use_your_swap_scroll/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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Thanks I'll try!
Hey guys, starting an alt account and was wondering if this lineup could work for a long time of wukong,belinda,gwen,rosaline, and the horse lady. Potentially replacing wukong with rowan at some point and maybe the horse lady with lucius. Is that lineup any good to go through stages? Im testing out climbing without the whole fodder meta thing as trial and just wanted quick thoughts on that lineup
For long term, defentley no
Rip
What if i got that graveborn team, like daimon,izold,oden,thoran,and idk who fifth
wukong gets dropped right after lv 100
Yeah ik, thats why i said instead of wukong, replace him with rowan, and maybe make belinda or gwen my new main carry
well daimon is the faster for climbing chapter i think.. i manage to chap 26 when i start my acc from early january
Yeah sadly this alt got like 4-5 elites in 6x10 pulls, my main got luckier for sure, if i manage a good graveborn team instead i might do that
Can anybody help me? Trying to beat in the next two hours for faction scrolls
@weary trench fawkes or tasi for shem
help
@cloud gull try
Rosa
Albedo
Ainz
Rowan
Lyca/ferael/daimon
ty i’ll try
Any advice???
maybe luci brutus shem rowan lyca
Thx
been stuck here for a long time and i want to unlock fallen souls anyone know what i can change to this?
What comps should I use?
brutus estrilda daimon rowan gwyn might work.
thanks
Hey guys i need a bit of help here becouse i dont know how to deal with the flying bird lady as her ult one shots any heroes left on my field, any ideas on how to kill her first or slow her down enough for shem to kill the whole team? (I did try this setup a bunch of times and it was very close at one point)
Any help much appreciated
Any ideas
All heroes die after 2 ainz ults except vedan is really annoying because he dodges them then heals back up
Brutus 1 lyca 3 maybe
I might try lyca over safi. And swap tasi rowan. If not try the site
Brutus talene thoran rowan w gear or other dodge tanks work against athalia. In this case I'd try rowan 4 brutus 5
Rowan 4
Brutus talene daimon rowan lyca maybe
Rowan 4
the enemy just keeps on critting so hard
thanks buddy i actually managed to beat it by swapping safiya for alna and then rowan: 2 peggy: 4 alna: 5
actually, thank you, rng gods blessed me and you helped me
Halp pls
Can anyone help? I tried couple different combinations but none of them close except this one
Help pls 🙂
Asked earlier but didn't get a response, what should I SI30 next? #lineup-help message
I would go for ainz if you haven't finished him. Since today I have SI30 and 9/9 furniture. He was a beast before but now he is unstoppable 😅 I love him
any help? arty recommendation?
Need some help with this, thx
Any idea?
Ahoj
Any suggestions? I can't even kill one .
try brutus lyca daimon saurus shem?
Tried, I get to much damage from morvous
hmm, try brutus infront of morvus to distract him a bit. if you tried that, then maybe try fawkes or tasi instead of lyca
anyone?
Daimon
Lyca
Rowan
Thoran/Lucius
Eironn
ill try that
doesnt work, couldnt even kill anyone
i think ezizh is the main problem coz the ult preventing
Could do your original comp but switch Rowan and Eironn.
Stuck 31-4, Gwyn Arthur stage I can complete.
lemme try that rq
its not working.
Can you help me with this pls? The problem i have is that between athalia and thane whe almost oneshot my entire team
ayo nvm got it
Help
Been stuck on this for a while. Any tips?
Front: brutus lucius
Back: rowan eironn rosaline
?
thanks alot siren i try
Hwlp
Do you have an eironn or nara to pull Isabella
tryed all formation no luck
Got Nara shud I put her on crystal
Yes and get her to pull Isabella into sauras
Could you tell me a formation
no chance -_-
Get destroyed
exact same here tryed out every composition
Ainz is max
Help
Rowan, Arthur, Albedo....would be my next steps. But I am not perfect in this.
They take more ppl out but isabella ult still kills everyone. I tried cecilia to kill her backline but she weak af
help?
i am having lots of trouble with team #1. None of my teams work. All other battles are easy. any ideas?
i managed to beat it actually by changing rowan from god comp to ainz

I keep getting cheesed by this mf
thoran counters eironn. god comp always works for me. try to lock thoran down with a mehira
Ive tried so much formations for a few hours and this athalia still destroys my team
Actually im gonna place rowan in middle
Your daimon doesnt get rowans bottles
Maybe swap daimon with rowan and put rowan in lycas position
Also do you got albedo?
No
Oh ok i would still try ainz if you didnt
I sometimes tried but its mainly frontline to stall daimon since ainz doesn't do the most amount of damage
Yea ainz tank wont work anyway
My lyca sucks
Who should twins replace
Daimon
Brutus
Ferael
Rowan
Tasi
Give Ferael a legendary weapon
@jagged pike
Drop Lyca.
Shes 200 free energy.
You dont wanna give them that.
Lyca can die - she is there for the haste buff of your team
It dosent do a lot
It doesnt do anything.
Rowan doesn't have the best gear for frontline
He needs T2 boots and weapon.
Thats it.
I need a t2 weapon
Might be ok with just boost.
But bring Ferael in.
And give him a legendary weapon even if he has a mythic one.
Kinda stuck here idk how to approach this
4 carries in one team kinda too mucj
Definetely a lyca and/ or tasi would be nice
Or/and fera
@rare karma swap Brutus with skreg, and call on skreg
Then maybe adjust the rest, I dunno what would work, but skreg would disable Thane surely
He does, but Mehira still wrecks my team somehow?
Done it. Thanks @brave oriole - I just had to swap Khasos for Safiya
@rare karma Khasos suck, without +30 and furn, but safiya it's always working with vurk doing lots of dmg
😭

anyone know what i can do here?
Help please
@clear lark why would be gwyn 200,and estrilda 220?swap their lvls, first of all, then try something like
Rosaline
Brutus
Gwyneth
Estrilda
Rowan
And then just push gwyn to 240. Brutus nvm, gwyn eye, rosaline blade maybe, call rowan
kk
Estrilda, something for def, chalice or so
Can u give me tips im stuck here and which champ i Can take in this chapter ? ty
thanks this helped so much
switching rowan and gwyn seemed to work better
@clear lark well, for gwyn team, rowan is usually Frontline but since your is weak, you need to find a better place for. Now, gwyn being middle usually hits all 3 Backline enemies, being top or bottom, only 2 of them
ah
Just swap estrilda with Brutus by situation and so on the Backline
alright tysm
I need help pls
@scarlet depot looks good, just try Rosa front of shem
Any ideas? I was cruising this chapter until this stage
@rigid quest yeah, but wrong the heroes places, ainz should tank at all athalia, or maybe ferael. Try first
Albedo
Arthur
Ainz
Rowan
Ferael
is there an updated tier list anywhere?
no answer ? 😦
Send a pic of all your heros
Thoran, Hogan - Front row;
Arden, Mirael, Rowan - Back row;
For noe Roean might now seem as good but once he can re call his potions he will be an great healer so stick with him
Need help
@twin socket you have 3 heroes x180, reset 2 of them back to 160,and push to 200shemira. Then just Brutus front of ainz, but anyway, being lvl 200 with your carry, huge diff
Stuck here, everyone dies way too quickly (tried brutus) and then daimon just gets cc'd and bursted down
@sudden bluff can see all your heroes, but try
Lyca
Brutus
Daimon dura's call
Talene
Rowan
Does anyone know why I cant collect the last part of the bounty chest I'm chapter 24 btw
here's all the heros, will try what u just said
@late peak you have to finish it I guess
Oh okay😢😢😢😢😢
But anyway, the scroll, keep it a few months, instead of wasting now for nothing good
Oh why I was going to get a mythic + rowan
Nope, it's a waste to use the scroll that early
Okay thanks
It's much much better later when you have better heroes etc
ideas?
It could just be the case of more retries , but heres what u could work on
rush daimon's SI to +20 asap , after that rush rowan's SI to +30 asap
@nimble void pulling Brutus without a safiya Backline such. Try with safiya
Okay
Shemira
Saurus
Rowan
Tasi
Ferael/Lyca
isabella’s ult keeps destroying my team-
Yes, that's why I said to use Ferael, to make her lose energy, if he doesn't survive enough you can use Brutus
alr ima use brutus cause ferael dies quickly
Well it's enough for him to just use Fear
ah, i guess i needa get lucky
The thing with Shemira is that she will fall around Ch22 and yoh made a big mistake getting her SI above +10. I would use the swap scroll maybe for Daimon, but if you're not struggling there's no need to switch now
@brave oriole Safiya was the answer, thank you
oh dang, if isabella isn’t being a pain, mirael takes over
See if it would be better to drain Mirael of energy or Isabella of energy
better to drain isabella’s
Hey I feel like I’ve rearranged this all a bazillion times but maybe I’m missing something obvious
The obvious thing that you're missing is the fact that you are reaching a point where Shemira will start to fall
Try
Rowan
Shem
Rosaline
Estrilda /brutus/talene
Fawkes
@Emberblaze#6108
@pale monolith fall vs 30 lvls +?
Yes
Nice joke 🤓
If you're struggling with a 30 lvl gap and say there is no problem with Shemira that's a joke
I have finished chap 24 with 240 shem, long time before of updates and such
He's just not playing with the right team, and lacking gear, that's all
Someone in my chapter has lvl 300 heros and is still stuck because Shemira is his carry. If you are telling me that Shemira doesn't fall off than I could talk to someone in Ch7 and the conversation will be the same
He's chap 23,i see no reason to talk about shem falling off
What ever, enjoy your game
I dont have a clue please help🥺
Is there a chance?
anyone know what i should do here?
A-
I think you could do is probably put Phoenix lady in the middle back and have either horse lady in slot 1 and you could switch bow and arrow girl for fairy girl and have rowen sit in slot 2 if possible
it didn’t work ;-;
Welp oof
maybe my heroes just suk lol
almost worked tasi died as soon as her energy got full and couldn’t ult
Dam
i even have call on her
Okay then remove call off damon and try Dura's grace ?
Wait... I dont think that would work 🤔
Try tho
still lost 😔
🧐 Hmmmm
she banishes athalia or arden
The fairy girl
yeah
Well them keep her there then and let me see if I can find a way 🧐
Okay okay try moving damion to solt 1 then
does that still let her use signature item
I dont really know but try it ????
they all died lol
Welp I'm out of ideas
Mk mk
Anyone wana help me setup for this 
First multi stage. Stumped
what stage is this?
34-4
getting rekt on first line up 
Your izold is 303 presumably? Then it's mostly a matter of rng, you certainly have the levels.
Well izold kinda needs it if he's gonna do round 1 lol. By 303 I mean +30SI and 3F
😅 he at 10 SI
Yeah that's not gonna fly
Help help
Any ideas for a merc that can help with this wilder tower floor?
Im getting trucked on 24-48. Can I fix this? Or do I need to dump more into resonating crystal or gear?
I swapped Mehira in and retried about 20 times and it finally worked.
So two of my characters are at a 100 and I need them to go higher right but I don’t have a hero to ascend with so what do I do
do as what the guide says, use your fodder heroes as your pentagram, and put your heroes to resonating so you wont be level capped
Thx
You look over leveled
Just change around your team and spam retry should be easy
Idk why this lineup has made me fly through like 2 full stages, but now im hard stuck at this battle for some reason and its not even a boss battle lol
Here is roster
From what i analyzed in the fight, its like their 2 front r extremely tanky but also heavy cc, so my team is dying before any ults go off, and mirael can get an ult off usually but its obviously not enough to kill anything, and then saveas there in the back critting 100k like candy lol
Hi
Need help. Athalia to stong.
@vocal kettle if you’re having trouble with Athalia, I’d suggest replacing Brutus with Talene. I’d also suggest switching Nemora for Lyca.
Formation Order: Lucius, Tasi, Lyca, Talene, Daimon
@pale kettle if any position on your team is being one-shot, make sure to place Talene there.
Besides that, try replacing Rosaline with Lyca.
I’d recommend: Talene, Lyca, Daimon, Mirael, Rowan
If you are still having trouble, then try replacing Rowan/Daimon with Arden
@shrewd sorrel I can’t see much of your roster, but rearranging your comp should be enough
Formation: Rowan, Brutus, Lyca, Ainz, Saurus
If you’re still having trouble then try switch Tasi in instead of Saurus
Thank You. Almost worked. I switched Lucan with saurus and win Thank you
👌🏼
I don't see anything else ypu could do maybe except using a Ferael in the low back row or a Lorsan where Lyca is now
ight imma try
here is a better ov of my account
Same thing
Try brutus rowan lyca shem daimon or swap rowan with brutus
Need some help pls
Rowan
Brutus
Shemira
Rosaline
Lorsan
I tried didnt work, i think only solution is to wait for anniv event, L+ remaining units with the 100 summons, maybe e+ a few other units. Then level them up from event rewards or something, i just cant so it sasly
Try and raise Lyca, Tasi, and Daimon. Those three will take you the furthest
need help for this 26-30 ..
current artifact backline all call expect eironn use eye..
rowan using chalice..
any recommend laneup for this and artifact too?
Formation Order: Lyca, Rowan, Talene, Daimon, Eironn
For artifacts:
Rowan/Daimon-Call
Eironn/Alna-Eye
Talene-Sword/Chalice
okay thanks will try it
I cant till i get the fodders to L+ sadly, tasi is still e, lyca i can L+ but prolly not gonna do it before fodder, daimon needs one more copy, hopefully this event i can do it
@frail lodge if you want to daimon it, you need a better strat. Mostly it's the best to use ferael when athalia. Try
Ferael
Lyca
Safiya
Rowan
Daimon
oh yeah thx for the tips i already pass it.. with same tips as you using ferael with dodge artifact
Help
Rowan
Brutus
Ainz
Rosaline
Lucius dura's call
Not sure how well it's gonna work since silvina will jump on rowan, but if you have an mehira, replace Lucius with it and see
Hello it is i, need help again, saveas is one shot criting everything in my team lol idk what to do 😦
Got destroyed so bad
@agile roost well, my advice it's to reset Lucius to 140,and push lyca if she's linked to ainz, at 180
@pale kettle Brutus is the best one to tank saveas hits, try to use rowan Backline, hes helping a lot your mirael
Hmm, but daimon dies so fast that they just go crazy on everyone else
@pale kettle u can't hope on any miracle with that low daimon. Maybe later, but not now for sure. Just put in everything to support merael for now, rowan rosaline if have, lyca is good too, arden after 141 for 3 roots.
Yeah i gotta wait for the 100 summons tbh, that will hopefully help alot
Gonna take me a couple more years to lvl arden to 141 too hahaha xD
Nah, don't worry, won't take long at all, just be patient for a while
Estrilda gets shielded making her untouchable, Golus is inmortal and Saveas one shots frontlines immediately. Daimon gets to ult but pretty much everything interrupts him. Any ideas?
@empty ibex I dunno, but do you have talene? If so, replace thoran and arden, bcs he surely does fast, with talene and lyca
The result is similar with Talene and Lyca, Arden is there for vine and Thoran is there for stun but Estrilda and Golus have way to much protection
Have you tried daimon Frontline? Vs golus let's say @empty ibex
Winning comp with Daimon frontline. Brutus wasn't doing much so I used Thoran for Taint and stun instead which downed Estrilda eventually. Thank you!
@empty ibex np
Any suggestions? Struggling vs their faction bonus, maybe I have to wait for Ainz merc.
How much does Rowan heal compared to Talene
@pale monolith on average it's about even - it varies wildly per retry
Well when it varies, who heals more?
Or does Thoran prevent Kaz from destroying your back row
She can be good sometimes but in campaign he dies quickly
@pale monolith I'd say Talene has more potential. The Tasi removes Daimon, and Ardens almost always roots Daimon. Need to slot in some CC while maintaining tankiness.
Try this:
Daimon
Talene
Thoran
Brutus
Ferael
yea she cc the brutus
Did you use the Swap Scroll with that?
How do y'all generally counter backline ferael? Without athalia and the frontline is hard tanks like ghrez or brutus?
Nara gets feared before hooking
With another Ferael
yo can anyone help me? im getting completely shredded rn
Does your rowan die fast
hella fast
everything dies fast, i can send u a video how this works rn
do u need it?
Try this
daimon
Brutus
rowan
Lyca
Ferael
i have already tried this formation earlier lul
suggestions?
Can't think of other heroes in your roster really. Tasi/eironn but they are too weak. Get a good ainz merc to 1 shot it or afk
Ainz only gets one hit
Use mercs cause that's a hella tough stage
He already used mercs Mr. Helpful
Can anyone help me?
Why do you run 3 carriers in 1 team?
Better to ask, who is your carrier?
@idle marlin I used Lyca, Rowan front
Nara, Tasi, Daimon back
don't have nara built sadly
my carry is daimon but I can't get him to work properly here because of ferael
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Tasi/Lyxa
Ferael
Any ideas for this stage?
@raven hare
You got a lot of choice. You can go Izold or Thoran cheese if daimon or Eironn don't work.
If you wanna go with daimon, you could do
Tasi
Rowan
Ferael
Brutus
Daimon
@raven hare thank you ❤❤❤ izold worked after 3rd try
You can also switch Daimon and Tasi.
I like having Tasi ult first to start the chain of ferael and tasi CC before Daimon gets rollig.
Farael dies like first 10 seconds :/
Nice! 1 stage left to ch30, go go go
Might be cause of that hypogean mage.
Damn izold is op. And I also meant like he dies first 10seconds almost every figth
Congrats!
Yeah Izold is OP.
Is your ferael geared?
Well not faction but I got him t2 from eiron
Ah. Well I can't tell you. I know he is squishy and dependent of dodge, so he dies easily to int enemies and rng plays a big part the rest of the time. But otherwise idk 🤷♂️
Stuck here, requesting recommendations
Can someone help me put together a lineup for this fight? I’d really like to avoid using a merc
I'd personally try talene daimon ainz rowan twin
talene brutus rowan mira rosa. if rosa does not ult, arden
Thanks. It will take me a while to get brutus on the crystal
Its hard to stall for 15sec, any tips?
@visual skiff try 1. ferael eironn lyca rowan daimon or 2. brutus rowan ferael fawkes ainz
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=27&stage=52 just look at those formations
@primal jolt thanks😄
any ideas?😔
what can i do here
Stuck here. Any suggestions on placement or who I should try to borrow from a friend?
@full pawn in those stages u wanna try to charm ferael try to switch in nemora instead of tasi to charm him
And have Rosaline where rowan is
And switch him in the middle instead of Shem
Ohh that's not good ya I beat that stage with Belinda easy I think but sadly urs is M
Try to find how to beat it on YouTube is all I can tell u since I'm pretty sure u have to have memory charm feral at start @full pawn
For sure
any ideas? been stuck retrying manually for 2 hours
Can't pass the level need help please
https://gyazo.com/3f229f4062583d2776511675a54eded6
Anybody I could borrow to help me through this? I'm out of ideas.
need to beat this for the quest anyone know what i can do?
I've been stuck on this level for a few days, any suggestions? fawkes coffins farael if he doesn't get feared
32-56 help lol. My first team is Lyca, Eironn, safiya, Tasi, Rowan but I get fucked on the 2nd and third ones
Albedo without 3/9 will die instantly, just stick with Daimon for this stage and put Brutus in front of Estrilda to buy some time
Read the pins in #quesand don't use Rigby
You got Talene?
need help beating this level, I tried a lot of formations but in the end isabella just shreds me.
the formation that im using up there is the closest ive gotten so far with it only allowing me to kill the grzul
i have one spot open on the crystal too if any of these other heroes could help me get through it
Have you tried pulling Isabella with nara
You got Talene?
unfortunately no
And I assume Silas heals more than Rowan
yes but then the mirael and the mage delete everything
I rarely ever get to 15 secs with this
yep
Do you are have stupid
I said to drop Ainz, put Daimon back row and Brutus in front of him
Arden
Izold
Silas
Daimon
Ferael
manages to kill the grzul sometimes but still its just daimon against the isabella mage and mirael
Help?
Does Daimon survive front row?
daimon is always the last one standing, he drops to the isabella ult
And Ferael doesn't prevent her from ulting?
Try:
Lorsan
Daimon
Silas
Izold
Arden/Ferael
he fears once, doesnt survive long enough to fear again
Try:
Lorsan
Daimon
Silas
Izold
Arden/Ferael
Where should I put erionn for pull?
How to pass this stage?my whole team got destroyed easily 
Why is rowan in the corner?
He would die easily if at front
I think it'd be best to stop running 3 healers
That too. Is your carry Thorne or diamon?
@high marlin Are you high
Yeah I planned add CC like ferael&tasi,but still on progress cause no fodder
Does Silas heal more than Rowan?
It's almost like both people I said are carries
Yeah, rowan just more add more energy
Damn, I've been using Thoran for 20 chapters and never noticed it
I think it'd be best to go with:
Daimon
Brutus
Silas
Thoran
Ferael
Brutus will hold Thane, Ferael prevents Mirael from ulting
My carry is daimon
Becuase Thoran will never be a carry with your line-up
Okay I'll try it,maybe wait till got fodder to ascend ferael
Scar heard about Thoran cheese but has absolutely 0 idea how it works

No need to ascend, just to get that Fear at the begging
What crawled up you and died damn
no luck, the link sounds nice but its not doing much
My ferael only e+ and when I place him he will die easily
I was thinking that if you would manage to kill Estreldia with the stun you could also get Isabella
Because of Rainer I think, you can also try Lorsan for the linking
shes too beefy daimon cant get through her that quick
No idea, maybe merc
im terrified of what might be after it
Yeah I will try it,If still can't pass maybe need merc/level up my heroes
Thanks guys for the advice 
You can check stages and line-ups that someone passed it with here:
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=24&stage=48
Hi mates, i just start 4 days ago, which lineup is the best plz?
What are your heros
This is my box ^^
Thoran, Brutus - Front row;
Arden, Rowan, Daimon - Back row;
👍
What can i do ?
If you're using Eironn then you should also use Safyia
But I don't want use Sarita and i would like to save it for later
Who said you have to merc? Getting the Force Field is enough
What is your team with Sifyia and Eironn ? I never played her before
She's not in my Cristal 😂
Would love some help here. Ainz doesn't work.
cool website but seems like most just used talene or twins or theyre more leveled than me i appreciate it though
Who gets the Thoran taint?
@pale kettle
Constantly getting stuck on stages any suggestions?
(note useless advice like you shouldn't make X, L+ is not helpful, I am aware)
Get a carry.
Joker cant carry shit.
Hes a great secondary dps/clean up but you need something that actually does damage.
Any carrys you'd recommend?
Hey I am new to the game (I started like 2 hours ago) and I need some help with well, deciding on a lineup or what I want to go for ig
But Pizza goes first 😌
Your Daimon looks good.
Needs +20 SI and voila.
You can still use your Joker cause Feral works great with Daimon and will trigger all out attack as you prolly know already :)
is there a good place to look at artifacts that should go on each character, I am pretty confident I have it set up correctly but it would be nice to have a place to double check.
@loud gate there's a helpful guide pinned on #classic-questions that's specifically tailored for beginners to the game. You might want to check on it, get familiarized with the setup, and then ask in the same channel for more clarification
Alrighty, thanku
Daimon to the back with call.
Hes not a tank despite the game saying so.
He also needs +20 SI to fully shine.
Yeah I will make that my current goal to take him to +20 Sig,
Drop Rosaline.
Ferael (eye)
Brutus (whatever, not call)
Rowan (call)
Joker (not call)
Daimon (call)
@frail panther
Id try like this.
what do you recommend swapping rosaline out for?
Brutus.
You need something to actually tank.
Even if only for 7 sec
Try with the lineup I posted.
No guarantees it will work but thats what I would do :)
Any suggestions appreciated
Been stuck here for a bit tired alot of different comps here are two, does anyone have advice
Hey ! Can i have any help ? :)
Any Idea please ? :)
I'll try. Thanks. I replace Talene right ?
Try rowan saurus tasi nara eironn
Worked with Lyca instead of tasi :) thanks ! Didnt Know Nara Can grab mehira cause Eironn can't
I’m new to this game and this is my current lineup. Not really sure if there’s something that I can do to improve it, so I’ll take any critique honestly
@ornate zodiac I dont play much gwyneth but im pretty sure she needs to be in the back middle for her ult to hit all of the backline
I see. I don’t really know if skreg is good or not which is why he’s crystald rn
ye im not sure who is better for you at the front but I would guess that Gorvo(the turtle guy) wold be slightly better if he can get his ult off because you dont need that extra frontline to do damage and his ult just hopefully can give a few more seconds so that your backline cold do more damage
I was thinking of using him too but it’s also partly cause I need to use numisu and using skreg gives that bonus so idk how I could change my lineup to make him work properly
maybie that is true. I have no Idea how much the 2 mauler synergy actually does for your team
I usually ignore synergys if I have a clear better minion to put its place
I just like numisus support. Is there someone in my barracks that can provide that better or the same??
I suggest you read the 2 most recent guides pinned in #classic-questions
@ornate zodiac
Might even be worth to start another account if you did the pulls without a proper wishlist.
I mean chapter 6 is like few hours of playing.
You wont lose much.
Can anyone help, I can’t even beat this level with a mercenary smh
Shes not that great.
She needs lvl 221 to function properly and even then there are much better carries.
Okay I gotcha
Anyone?
What would a good team be with these characters
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/758726679488102410/828312572947988510/Screenshot_2021-04-04-11-58-09-613_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.jpg?width=304&height=676
replace rowan with brutus , replace shemira with eironn , replace gwynneth with rowan , replace lucius with lyca , try this
@Crown i want to keep everyone exept shamira for now. I will wait for outher heroes
so you only want to replace shemira?
Yeah. Im not in hurry tonpush chapters for now. I just want to build heroes
There's not many options then , u can just try to replace shemira with eironn/lyca/ainz and see what works
I get swap ascension lvl and everything from shamira to someone else
if you want to use your swap scroll i would wait a bit
I can't give you advice on who to use with your swap scrolls , its a very valuable resource that should be kept untill you are informed enough to use it
Hmm okay
I know i team i want to build but i want to see what outher people think about few heroes
Any ideas? Been stuck for a while
Id try dropping ainz for Ferael, and Talene for Tasi/Lyca
Umm ok the ferael worked somehow even tho he got 1 shot the second the fight started I’m confused 😂
He just needs to curse at the beginning mainly
Ahh ok makes sense. Would it work for this fight too?
So only way he doesn't do that is if he gets telefragged immediately by Athalia
Yeah Ferael is an extremely strong support so I recommend keeping him around
Ok I’ll keep trying him for this stage tyty
You might not need talene either. Do you use her bc you need the healing or something?
Yea I use her for sustain or else everyone dies super quick. Even with her there they die pretty fast. Only reason Brutus can tank it is cuz of his shield
I recommend building a nemora as well then, since she can heal and provide cc
Use her instead of talene? I used to use her but I found she cast her ult way to late usually
Talene should he fine then
any tips on positioning or who to merc?
@safe falcon might not be the best person to answer your question but which enemy is giving you the toughest time?
Ezizh doesnt let me ult, and between Angel heals and Lucius shields they tank all my dmg :C
Yes. Help.
So currently you have pretty much no cc on your team to counter that if you can get a high merc of a tasi to stop angel or lucius that may help but that still leaves the other one being an issue. Cuz u seem to only have those graveborns it can be an issue if you dont have anyone like brutus to help with their cc and protect backline. I would suggest using i forgot their name but the bow dude on the pistol dude instead because hell focus the cavalier instead of lucius anyways
Maybe steampunk dude against the cavalier as well whoever can handle physical movement pushbacks. Because both cavalier and ezizh will cc your backline from being able to ult
yeah, its graveborn faction tower, maybe nara?
Someone help pls
@safe falcon oh goodness sorry i didnt notice haha. Then yes nara or shemira might be good whichever you can get a higher merc of. Shemiras bind does get rather random but her aoe is nice. Nara if high enough can grab multiple ppl before she dies
Help
Anyone
Can someone help me with the lineup here please?
I think i did it with brutus lyca daimon rowan silas combo
Thx! Don’t have Brutus but used Safi and it worked XD
30 SI ainz, who should I aim for next? My main line up is hendrix, lucius, rowan, ainz, and tasi
Got Talene?
Rowan
Nope @pale monolith I have safiya other than the ss
Rowan instead of Eironn
Hi guys, I was wondering if any one can help me come up with lineups. I just got to chapter 23, I'm not struggling much yet but I have a bunch of resources and I don't know where to put it all. I'm not sure which heroes I should be focusing on and strengthening. Any help on what I should be building towards would be much appreciated.
still doesn't work, the enemies are too strong
Go with Daimon as a carry and focus of him. Also building that Rowan will be good. You got no decent tanks
What more should I be doing to Daimon? Stars? I can focus on his gear for sure.
don't starhunt yet, especially not for daimon
Just saying that he built 4 carriers and it's best to go with Daimon
Yea I kind of had no idea what I was doing for a while, but now I'm going to get a little more focused on actually learning the game.
And not focuse all your resources on a healer
So I can get my Daimon to 240, someone also recommended Gwyn and I can also get up my Rowan. Any other recommendations?
Whoever reccomanded Gwyneth over Daimon in your situation had no idea what he was talking about. Build Rowan, his +30 is amazing but can go without it
I think they recommended both Gwyn and Daimon
Daimon is way better here
Ok so I'm trying to get an idea of a lineup I should be making, I'm going to beef up Daimon more and also Rowan. Should Talene still be in my comp?
Since you went all out on her, yeah but then Rowan wpuld only be there for emergy regen
Okay, say Talene, Daimon, Rowan. Any ideas for last 2
You got no good tanks so just put Talene front row and maybe with Brutus for the shield and a Lyca back for energy and haste
Alright so I need to beef up Brutus and Lyca
No
Wont they get 1 shotted?
brutus can't be oneshot, and lyca can die for all you care
Alright so then right now my resources should be going into Daimon and Rowan.

