lineup-help

[rain mango]

how

[onyx basin]

Nothing new and under 400

[proud plover]

I instantly lose them in 10 seconds

Should I wait until my lineup is 240 each?

[past urchin]

You should think of a better carry.
Joker is a nice secondary dps or clean up, but not much of a carry.

[proud plover]

Belinda gets destroyed too fast and Lucretia is only legendary. Shemira also doesn't deal as much damage as I want her too. Even Ain's is ways away from being a dependable carry since the gear I loaded on him is crap.

[ebon hazel]

Anyone know how Izold would do here?

[ebon hazel]

What's your roster?

[orchid kestrel]

Help with 26 60pls

[ebon hazel]

Post rooster

[pale monolith]

He can't backaroo

[vale dune]

Any tips on what I should try?

[pale monolith]

No

[pale monolith]

Rosaline

Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Belinda

[vale dune]

It worked with couple of item changes and upgrades and only a few tries. Thank you!

[pale monolith]

👍

[pale kettle]

The problem is i don't have enough DPS to take down the shield

[pale monolith]

Send a pic of all your heros

[pale kettle]

Nothing too good but soon i should be able to draw 10 more

[pale monolith]

Used gift codes?

You don't have anything to work with, read the pins in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

Ty

[pale monolith]

[past urchin]

Overlevel a damage dealer @pale kettle
Ofc you dont have the damage.
Your carry is the lowest level on the team :)

[pale kettle]

👌

[tulip cloud]

yo guys still dk what to do

daimon was in center back
fawkes close mirael

[proud plover]

@ebon hazel here it is

[obtuse granite]

Which roster should I use for main campaign? Thanks for the help 🙂

[pale kettle]

Would appreciate some help

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle mhm, you have to cc safiya first or all. Then ainz should work easy.

[marsh nymph]

suggestions?

[brave oriole]

Same, cc safiya with nara, put ainz middle

You can try ainz like this, and figure out the rest that you need, mostly rowan and albedo, and nara ainz safiya Backline

[marsh nymph]

alr thx

[brave oriole]

If anything, try also ferael instead of nara

[marsh nymph]

will do

getting close a few times, it's just the trees healing that's annoying

[brave oriole]

Yeah, he can heal a lot, but if ainz silence it, all good

Not sure if your ezio can dodge a lot, need gear

[vast meadow]

Any tips for thoran cheese?I have no idea how to use thoran. I cannot use pippa because I am using her for khazard

[brave oriole]

@vast meadow bscly, everyone have to die, and thoran to ultimate vs 5 enemies

[maiden marsh]

thoran versus ezizh just isn't gonna work, best off trying another stage

[vast meadow]

I also tried the thoran cheese with the 5th team(Brutus Thoran Orden Nara Kelthur), but seems Brutus is killing me during the 2nd ult?

[brave oriole]

From my alt

[vast meadow]

Thanks! I have used Daimon Izold in other comps unfortunately, I’ll try whether 5 pull works in another round

[summer cedar]

talene brutus arden rowan daimon perhaps

[weary trench]

Can I get some quick recommendations?

[kind nest]

You could try Eironn to control mirael or Isabella

[slate elbow]

How do I beat this

Nvm I alrdy cleared it

[narrow dew]

how do i beat level 21

[short zephyr]

What does this mean , stage 2-1?

[narrow dew]

im in world 9

[short zephyr]

Send a screenshot of your current stage please

[narrow dew]

oh its level 34
sorry

i heard the purple guys are really rare so I put them in
but its not working

[kind nest]

It, 09-34 - you’re using 2 level 1, probably switch those out

[narrow dew]

oh snap, you have to level them???
i thought the purple guys didnt need levels

[kind nest]

No, you level 5 heroes, the rest you put in the Crystal to get the level of the lowest of your 5 levels heroes.

[narrow dew]

okay who do i use then

green witch keeps deleting my heroes
the one with the ring*

i dont think i have enough levels to beat this 😦

@vocal sluice who do i use???

@stuck trellis

@hollow hatch

why is slowmode so long

[short zephyr]

I would highly recommend you try out the game and experiment with different characters , you can always reset them at the rickety cart for 20 diamonds if your desired results are not met with those characters

[narrow dew]

oh okay ill try that

[maiden marsh]

I am entirely unable to answer your question as I am not that far in the game, but I highly recommend @drowsy gazelle , he's a real pro and always willing to help no matter how small the question. I rate his services 10/10, he's helped me a lot.

[narrow dew]

oh okay
should i ping him

[fringe herald]

Any advice here on 25 58?

[maiden marsh]

as much as you want yes

[narrow dew]

its okay you already pinged him

[tough prawn]

Ping him again in case

[short zephyr]

I think I just witnessed a planned murder

[maiden marsh]

get daimon +20 and you can just copy clears from afkhelper, your levels are more than enough

[mighty sage]

Any ideas? Can’t find a way to beat nemoras heal

[kind nest]

Can’t get Ainz to ulti?

[mighty sage]

he ults once and then dies

[kind nest]

No effect?

[mighty sage]

he gets them all to about half hp but then they pick off everyone and heal abit

[narrow dew]

@vocal sluice im stuck again 😦

@hollow hatch can u help me again

@stuck trellis can you help me

@maiden marsh please help me 😦
they are not answering

[maiden marsh]

They probably missed the tags, try a few more times

[narrow dew]

i think they are afk 😦

[burnt smelt]

stinki cs fire them alrdy

[tough prawn]

Try Q again maybe

Try pinging Nerds

[narrow dew]

@vocal sluice are you afk???

@maiden marsh should I ping Q???

[maiden marsh]

yeah go ahead

[sour pond]

XD

[narrow dew]

is he a community supporter as well
oh okay

@drowsy gazelle please I need help on level 1

[maiden marsh]

yeah he's basically a community support

[sour pond]

they arent forced to help you tho

[maiden marsh]

never hurts to ask as many times as you need to though

[pale kettle]

@vocal sluice this guy really needs help

[burnt smelt]

@hollow hatch wheres phoenix

[sour pond]

you should consider that he gets annoyed by it just sayin

[narrow dew]

@hollow hatch can i dm you for help???

[mild geyser]

Nah this is what cs live for

[sour pond]

i mean he will see it if he starts handling the questions

[tough prawn]

@narrow dew have you gotten help yet? If not maybe try asking Arty?

[sour pond]

obviously he is not looking dc now or saw it and doesnt answers immediately

[narrow dew]

oooh is that the arty that made the guides on reddit

[pale kettle]

@narrow dew try using Rowan instead of Tasi, and then switch Rowan and Lyca

[tough prawn]

Yup

[burnt smelt]

hey why does this delta guy have a similar pfp to the cs phoenix

[pale kettle]

what?

[burnt smelt]

nothing, just a weird coincidence 🙏

[pale kettle]

his pfp is a ice cube

[crude thicket]

[high marlin]

I've started to slog hard in chapter 24, is there anything with my characters I need to change? Or is it mainly upgrading SI?

This is my main formation

[tulip dagger]

Spot 1 getting instantly oneshot, tried using brutus but that wasnt good enough.. need two dmg dealers, fera alone isnt enough even though tasi got her ult through

[pale monolith]

Ferael isn't a carrier

Go with
Belinda

Brutus
Rowan
Tasi
Ezio/Ferael

[tulip dagger]

He carries me through the last 20 stages after i've been hopelessly stuck and does as much dmg as bel haha
Will try thanks :)

Brutus getting killed, bel nearly oneshot pretty early..

[past urchin]

Belinda carries you.
Ferael is a support that slows the enemy down to a crawl.
But he can never carry anything, no :)

[tulip dagger]

Understood haha
But levelling her SI isnt worth it right? Well other SI are better

Bel+rosa carried me all the way but she is getting too squishy in the past few lvls

[past urchin]

Rowan is your uttermost priority.
Get him to +30 asap.

And yes, dont invest in Belinda's SI

[tulip dagger]

27 already getting there

[cold reef]

Campaign: 7-34
Using top 5-6 heroes but I got more now, any other hero to focus on from now?

[short zephyr]

hello , you only need to level 5 heroes , not 6 , so you can reset either antandra or lucretia , personally I would reset both and level your E+ Hogan

[tulip cloud]

can anyone give me advice?

[short zephyr]

u can try frontlining shemira against fereal and let nara pull the isabelle , also I would highly advice to stop making L heroes , you've wasted an extremely large amount of fodder

[tulip cloud]

its not working bcs of fearael's fear

thats why i put my main cc on him

[short zephyr]

can you let brutus tank the fereal? you can always retry-rng the fereal fear

[tulip cloud]

idk what to do

[onyx ridge]

Any help? All the solutions have lvl 260 teams or ascended +30 +3/9 diamons or full dims

[thorny pendant]

Have you tried putting rowan in the center?

[hidden cobalt]

I got it just down to Oscar and took the L was sad any ideas ?

Nvm got it by swapping joker in over nemora

[rigid birch]

you should really swap ainz and joker's ascensions

[hidden cobalt]

Only recently got ainz from garrison and don’t have the gold emblems to SI 20 him also joker kinda slaps I am aware but

[heavy yacht]

How would you pass this one guys, kinda getting destroyed

[elder badge]

been stuck here for days. I can't tell if it's just level defecit catching up or if I'm getting bad rng.

I've tried swapping tasi out for lyca, ferael and talene but none of them worked. I also tried swapping ainz and Arthur's position with albedo tasi and it's not helping either.

any advice would be great, thank you!!

[maiden marsh]

Ainz 9/9 and albedo 30 will allow you to push proper deficits with ainz. Until then, I would stop using him as main carry and get daimon to +20 and use him.

[frosty arrow]

Any ideas? I can flip things around in the crystal

[elder badge]

would it be worth it to spend mythic cards on 9/9? i dont see myself pushing for any other 9/9 any time soon. Ainz is on 1/9 rn

[maiden marsh]

Efficient? No. Worth it is another question. I (and many others) have heavily carded ainz to 9/9, and as @vale stump has said, if you aren't close at all to any other 9/9, the card hit isn't too bad even in the long term and it can be worth inefficiently carding ainz to 9/9 to huge short term progress.

[topaz rain]

In misty valley floor 14, is there any way to proc beutus shield fast enought to ainz the team before 15 sec?

[safe ridge]

@topaz rain yeah, do enough dps in one hit

[topaz rain]

What would you advice me to try? Eironn doesn’t work

[elder badge]

ahh so its just the delayed gratification. aight, thank you so much! ill hold on as much as i can

[sand parcel]

I'm hard stuck af, but I really want the mv reward and to do graveborn pulls. any help?

[maiden marsh]

I will say this: if you were to card ainz to 9/9 right now, you could probably immediately beat 1-3 chapters. Getting albedo 30 would be another chapter. Food for thought.

[thorny pendant]

Have you tried that Ainz? Mercs will reset later today so no need to save

[elder badge]

whoa, thats a lot of progress. will think about it for sure. never knew it'd be that big of a deal

[sand parcel]

I have tried, he either dies too fast or his ult doesn't do a significant amount of damage

[maiden marsh]

Ainz's 9/9 is one of the top 3 furnitures in the game for a reason

[sand parcel]

who should I replace for ainz? joker? and should the formation be changed?

I can spam retries for a bit if the team is optimal

[thorny pendant]

I'd give that a shot and see how it goes

Is that what you were trying before?

[sand parcel]

oh wow thane was last alive, I can do it. thanks!

his anime dashes🙄

less go

[thorny pendant]

good times

[heavy yacht]

Any idea here?

[kind nest]

Rowan, Thoran , Daimon, Lyca, Shemira - try that, if not work, I can’t do much

[heavy yacht]

Did you say this like 1,2,3,4,5 or should I try comps between them

[outer dagger]

swap joker and daimon

[kind nest]

12345

But you can try to switch - Shemira is really only there to chain Isabella so you don’t get one shot

[heavy yacht]

I'm getting nuked here, I don't know what's going wrong but I'm getting pretty much one shotted

[kind nest]

It’s Isabella, try switch around or use Nara to grap her

[heavy yacht]

I can upload a video if needed it won't take too long, okay! :)

[kind nest]

Aren’t there any winning formations you can use?

[rigid birch]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=20&stage=12
@heavy yacht

take a look here, lots of formations, maybe stumble upon one

[heavy yacht]

I've checked into the game but they pretty much use wilders, which I don't have or mercenaries

[heavy yacht]

Thanks! I'll check that real quick

[rigid birch]

@heavy yacht this one is closest to your hero box ascensions

[heavy yacht]

Yup I have all of them except daimon, I was trying this one but I'm getting nuked as well, is the difference between M and M+ so huge on Daimon?

[rigid birch]

daimon in this formation has 20 extra levels, so thats probably it

[kind nest]

You should +20 your daimon, if you can

[rigid birch]

if you're getting dropped fast, try rowan instead of ferael

[heavy yacht]

I'm doing that, currently 16 out of 20!

[heavy yacht]

I think it might get worse because the fear at the beginning leaves time for daimon to ult

[rigid birch]

naras already on ferael, so maybe either can work, try experimenting with both and see the best results

[heavy yacht]

Holy, actually I can't ult at all even with or without Rowan

[rigid birch]

yep, isabella

[heavy yacht]

Actually that's the Shemira that keeps killing daimon

[rigid birch]

have you tried this but with daimon instead of joker?

[heavy yacht]

I'll try but my brutus is only e so I'll see

[rigid birch]

brutus at e works as good as any other ascension, his SI and furniture only give like 4 secs of immunity more

[heavy yacht]

Ooh nice, sadly I don't have a slot for arden is there an equivalent?

[rigid birch]

sadly no, his cc is one of a kind
maaaaybe ferael? also cc's 3 people but for a shorter period

[heavy yacht]

Damn, I'll try with ferael then!

Yeah the biggest problem is that Daimon can't ult with any comps

[rigid birch]

try call on daimon if you haven't

[devout vine]

this is my current setup and i've been struggling on this level for a bit spent all of my exp on leveling my team but it appears i've hit a brick wall i've only just started a few days ago and open to changing my team

[heavy yacht]

The artifact?

[cold reef]

why lvl up when i can put him in crystal and be lvl 100

[heavy yacht]

Oh wait I already use call

[rigid birch]

is this your best gear?
thats a really big oof if every single pc of gear daimon has is non faction

[heavy yacht]

I was damn unlucky, didn't get any faction on my M stuff

And my other M weapon is faction less as well

[short zephyr]

because E+ has level cap of 120 , E only has level cap of 100

[rigid birch]

you're safe to upgrade non factional gear to 3*, only do it on your main carry tho

[heavy yacht]

Yup, i checked all my heroes and here is how it looks

[heavy yacht]

Why 3 and not more? Any reason?

[rigid birch]

becomes wayy too expensive and resource consuming, and you're better off spending it on faction gear so it isnt a waste of money
you can also feed it later if you want

[heavy yacht]

Oh okay didn't see it this way thanks :)

But I think I will have a hard time here, I'll need M+ daimon else I'll get destroyed

[kind nest]

You should not invest in factionless gear.

[maiden marsh]

M > M+ daimon is an insignificant upgrade

[kind nest]

What you need is +20 daimon, not M+

[heavy yacht]

I mean it's still 20 more lvl and I'm 7 out of 8 copies so he'll get instantly A after that

[rigid birch]

eh, im pretty sure not long ago going to 3* only was safe

[maiden marsh]

that's quite nice but +20 literally doubles the power of his stat steals

[heavy yacht]

Yup, getting closer to it

[kind nest]

Everything is “safe”
It’s just a waste of resources, as factionless gear is useless poop.
You can’t even upgrade it to T3.

[rigid birch]

ah i gotchu

[heavy yacht]

Doesn't he need to kill someone tho? If he gets os-ed I might still struggle sadly :(

[maiden marsh]

he doesn't need to kill someone to steal their stats, only to permanently keep them
+20 will make him much better at killing people

[heavy yacht]

Oh didn't know about that one thanks

[kind nest]

The +20 is daimons breaking and optimal point

What makes him insane

[heavy yacht]

Good to know!

I'll just sit here and wait +20 then

[past urchin]

Lyca

Brutus
Nemora
Rowan
Daimon

Im almost sure you can beat that stage with some retries.
@heavy yacht

[rigid birch]

try till nemora charms ferael

[past urchin]

Exactly.

[heavy yacht]

is there any visual to know he'e charmed ?

[rigid birch]

a pink heart appears above his head with "charmed" written in blue if he's on the enemy, and red if he's an ally

[heavy yacht]

Damn, is there a timer before it triggers ? She's almost getting one shotted

[rigid birch]

try putting call on her

[past urchin]

Whats important is that she needs to charm him before he casts his fear.
Else its completely irrelevant.

Hence Lyca in my suggestion.

[heavy yacht]

The only thing I can see is 'Def 🔽 "

[heavy yacht]

wdym ?

[rigid birch]

probably grezhul's steal or another status

oh and maybe lyca's armor break

[past urchin]

Basically.
If she charms him before, he will use it on his own team.
And if he manages to get it off uncharmed, you are dead.
Long story short :)

[rigid birch]

^ chapter 20/23 feraels in a nutshell

[heavy yacht]

I'm at around 30 retries and still Haven't seen the color of the charm 😦

[rigid birch]

try sending a clip of whats happening if possible

[heavy yacht]

Sure, let me upload it on youtube then because discord doesn't want me to upload over 8mb

https://youtu.be/1FcZQoIcvAk there you go, multiple speed and fights to see various results

[past urchin]

Try giving her call.

[heavy yacht]

she does have call 😦

she did charm but i got nuked after that

[past urchin]

Still too slow.
Do you have any other calls on?

[heavy yacht]

One on Daimon and one on Nemora

[past urchin]

Remove the one from Daimon.
Give him drape or blade.
Rowan chalice
Lyca eye
Brutus whatever really.

[heavy yacht]

i must be really unlucky on charms because it doesn't work anymore

[agile roost]

Help with formation

[heavy yacht]

send your whole roster here

[past urchin]

Yeah...
Nemora is rng heavy @heavy yacht
The other ways to deal with him would be a strong Eironn merc and pull from the middle.
Or your own Ferael and you win the fear battle.

I suggest you read the 2 most recent pins in #classic-questions
Those legendary heroes are slowing you down.
A lot since you have many.
@agile roost

[proud plover]

Do I wait until they level up or is there a chance for me to advance?

[short zephyr]

you need a joker enabler , since I assume he is the main carry of your team? Fereal synergizes incredibly well with him past 201+ , and Lyca SI+20 also buffs jokers/fereal/lyca's dmg alltogether , so personally i would swap lucius/rosaline with fereal/lyca

[proud plover]

I'll have to increase the state and armor/weapon specs on feral and lyca then.

[proud plover]

That suggestion was perfect. I'm glad you gave me insight for how to make joker a better carry. So far many users don't have him or have little knowledge to utilize him most effectively.

[short zephyr]

Hey glad you could use the advice , I used estrilda before i discovered fereal , and the difference was night and day between those two. Fereal is just there to help trigger joker's all out , and lyca is just to speed up the battle/debuff/buff , if you do manage to let rowan cast once that almost has a 100% trigger rate for joker's all out aswell if its off-cooldown

[past urchin]

I would say that you will need another main carry anyway.
Joker is a nice secondary dps or a clean up, but he just wont do enough damage on his own.
Like this is what...50 lvls deficit and and he is struggling.
It will only get worse.

[heavy yacht]

Agreed, he did carry me through ch 19 but now he's getting dunked on

[lofty gust]

Merc Available. Plz suggest.

[tardy hinge]

King's tower 510 :/

[lilac shore]

The combination of Isabella and shemira just shreds me especially bc I can't just Oden the tank in front of them bc there on separate sides

[worn spire]

Do you have nara elite ? To grab one od them ?

[lilac shore]

Yes I have 1 nara

These are the rest of my heroes

[worn spire]

Uplevel her and tey to grab one of them 😁 and you can put daimon in front too

[undone thunder]

Hi! I started the game 4 days ago and this is my lineup. Is there anything I should change? I was thinking of maybe resetting Belinda and replacing her with eironn?

[outer dagger]

Don’t know how to deal with Tasi and Fawkes, just banish my daimon over and over again until he’s the last one left and they one shot him instantly

[worn spire]

Upgrade only 5 heros and never food ascanded heros. Play wukong rowan ferael shemira early its fine

[undone thunder]

Is eironn good too?

[worn spire]

You need more dps, daimon in front of top should be fine, try to grab fawk with eironn too or nara

[worn spire]

Yes very good and late game too we all play him

[undone thunder]

Ah ok, so is it better I level him up now or later?

[worn spire]

Hm i dont know early game if he is good, sorry :/

[undone thunder]

Ah, no worries, thanks so much for your help!

[worn spire]

You can find heros good late game on the web, and never food heros ascanded 😁 and upgrade level from 5 heros

[maiden marsh]

I will note that googling guides without knowing who to look for (eg Arty) is disastrous, as many complete fools put out guides that show up just as well with a cursory search

[atomic cosmos]

Halp pls

[mighty sage]

Any ideas

[proud mantle]

Any ideas for this mv where i needa beat with Eluard and Cecilia

[faint current]

Have you tried Nara on Khazard?

Instead of Talene?

[worn spire]

Try lyca to boost your team,

[proud mantle]

ok let me try

oops I read wrong earlier

Zaphrael blocks the hook

[faint current]

Unfortunate :/

[worn spire]

Hm very hard Ith your comp do you have eluard lvl 1?

[proud mantle]

Nope , forced to use Eluard merc cause no Eluard

[worn spire]

Ah okay i see, so i dont think you can win here with your team sry :/

[proud mantle]

oof ok thanks anyways

[mighty sage]

instead of rowan? or a damage dealer

[maiden marsh]

could try hooking zaphrael

[worn spire]

@mighty sage saveas deal dammage or not ?

[mighty sage]

he does

main issue is isabella ults which idk how but it just wipes everyone out fast af

[worn spire]

Try to grab her with nara so and try with saveas varry

[fiery cipher]

Please help i am so tired of this tog stage this is the last thing I need

Shem, nara, ezio, ferael, & thoran are gone

I'm so tired of tog 😩 its not fun I just want my 60 purple gems

[wise schooner]

Is it ever a good idea to use a team of all 5 lightbearers?

[maiden marsh]

In LB tower it's a great idea

[scarlet seal]

@fiery cipher if u still need help, then try godcomp budget: tasi, saurus, ferael, rowan and fifth maybe alyca, rosaline, lucretia

[fiery cipher]

ferael is gone i've been trying tasi/saurus/twins or ezizh or aniz/rowan/luc but it's been hit or miss, mostly miss. i need luc for the assassin, atm i'm working on numisu bc his totems suck and also lag my phone but i've only been able to down him once, so i think it was just luck. i'm open to anything at this point, though, i just wanna be done with this

[restive quest]

I haven't hit a block like this yet but I don't know what to do

[woeful solar]

What team should i make for PvP and PvE ?

[high marlin]

This and other guides are in the pinned section of #classic-questions

[orchid raven]

Why tf do you have a Mythic and a legendary nemora

[high marlin]

Bc it's 500 gems to reset the legendary one lol

[restive quest]

Ya know I have no idea what the crap I'm doing

[high marlin]

Also he can still fodder the L nemora to tasi or a different wilder

[vapid field]

Help pls?
https://gyazo.com/5c5fcbf857a95bfe99a77ec59b9ec7e6

[lilac shore]

What merc would help me beat this stage?

[safe falcon]

any tips? what merc would help?

[high marlin]

Saurus would probably work

[maiden marsh]

yeah I don't quite think saurus will help here

[high marlin]

Well a wilder would probably get rid of those naras, so probably eironn

[lilac shore]

It's lightbearer tower smh

[maiden marsh]

don't think eironn can help either ^^^

[high marlin]

Bruh I'm stupid

[thorny pendant]

How long do you last now?

[high marlin]

Belinda then my guess

[safe falcon]

xd, I'll try belinda or cecilia

[high marlin]

Well wilders have the faction advantage over graveborns, so probably don't put diamon in front of one imo

[random sonnet]

either way my frontline dies in half a second

[maiden marsh]

faction advantage and bonus is like
not very important in the end

[high marlin]

Don't most people put diamon in the back?

[maiden marsh]

depending on the enemies yes. here is a terrible place to frontline daimon, bel would just smack him

[high marlin]

Yeah both the enemies in the front are pains, so I'd probably put talene in the front

[random sonnet]

should i be leveling my gwn or my daimon

[high marlin]

Whichever you're planning to be the main carry

[maiden marsh]

(daimon)

[high marlin]

I would probably start looking at diamon comps then

[full pulsar]

need help here

[tidal spear]

With the new changes to gloomy girl, what am I supposed to do?

[sand parcel]

what should I do here, this level is absurd

[leaden bear]

Hi new to the game! Can anyone help me make a team?

[high marlin]

Hi there are guides for that in the pinned section of #classic-questions

I recommend making either your Saevas or Mirael as your carry til they're level 160

[vagrant ibex]

@full pulsar swap daimon for tasi and put rowan frontline

@tidal spear call 911

[tidal spear]

Lol

[vagrant ibex]

@sand parcel put that wuf frontline

[vapid field]

Help pls

[unborn cradle]

thoran or izold for tank spott?

im pretty new i dont know anything

[high marlin]

Oh boy this is hurting my brain

[viscid pine]

You can use Eironn to pull him, he has a knockback attack, could be possible to keep him CC'd with Joker if he stays alive.

who does Tasi banishes anyway

[high marlin]

Ferael, but the run usually falls apart near the end due to his fear

[viscid pine]

Have a strong Gwyneth? She should pop-off here since the majority are Maulers

Nvm there's a Warek

[high marlin]

I borrowed a Belinda so I'm hoping to nuke the maulers

[viscid pine]

idk, just merc an Ainz or something

Or keep on reforming and RNG it

[viscid pine]

Brutus and Golus is very hard to nuke

[high marlin]

I'll keep trying tho ty

Omg it's so annoying lol

[south grail]

Best merc I can use here and if I can take it from someone

[worn spire]

Lyca and remove talene, and after try to remive shemira for daimon

[past urchin]

You gotta hard counter Mehira @south grail
Stop her from getting bats off.
If she does, you are dead no matter what.
Nara or Athalia opposite to her.
E works.

[south grail]

🙂

[sand parcel]

what should I do? I think ferael is draining literally everyone's energy by 110 like every 3 seconds and only lucius can ult once

[past urchin]

You can try throwing Cecilia at him or just tank him between Rowan/Lucius.
Not much else LB can do as they are pretty bad outside a few heroes.

[slate elbow]

pls help

[edgy lotus]

I usually let Nara catch Rosaline. Give her and Fawkes the eye relic.

[edgy lotus]

Can you send a screenshot of your main hero collection page?

Use Ainz instead of Shemira. Put call artifact on Ainz. If Lucius dies to fast, replace with Brutus so Daimon can slowly stack more energy.

If Ainz can survive Vedan's hits, then you can put in front so that he can get Rowan's energy potion to wipe as much enemies as he can. Hopefully before Isabella ults

[clever helm]

Hi guys who should i prioritize next for my graveborn? Ferael or Silas?

[past urchin]

Ferael.

[clever helm]

Got that man, thanks!

Ohh btw i wasn't able to show my full line

[pale monolith]

Ainz

Brutus
Rowan
Luciusl
Feraeo

[dire mist]

so this is my line up, can you tell if this is an okau line up? I have Skreg and Wu Kung also. Should I put them in my line up and who should I replace?

[pale monolith]

It sucks and you have nothing to work with. Make Shemira your carry and check the pins in #classic-questions

[twin socket]

I dont have fareal

[dire mist]

Yess, I was planning Shemira is Carry, still my 2nd day though, I am currently resesearching which hero to put.

[pale monolith]

Again,do as the pins say but idk if Mirael or Shemira is better

[dire mist]

What do you mean do the pins?

[pale monolith]

Lorsan

[twin socket]

I dont have lorsan

[pale monolith]

Than just put Arden and hope he roots first

[dire mist]

Hey I have Rare Arden should I level him up to 140? sounds like a waste of resources to me

[twin socket]

Arden gets 1 tapped

[pale monolith]

Just go with whatever works best

[pale monolith]

He is pretty decent early game so leveling him wouldn't be a waste

[twin socket]

Nothing works best thats why i am asking for help

[pale monolith]

I LITTERALLY GAVE YOU A LINE-UP, YOU HAVE ALREADY4 HEROS IN PLACE,IS IT THAT DIFFICULT TO CHOOSE ONE

[past urchin]

Invest in your Daimon @twin socket
And Rowan.
You already have the most efficient low investment carry ever there.

Rowan to +30
Daimon to +20.
And you wont ever need any goddamn Ainz until ch 30 if you play your cards right.

[twin socket]

So focus daimon and rowan si stick with shemira

[past urchin]

Just unlock Daimon's SI for now.

[twin socket]

Ok

[ruby drift]

Agree, i have ainz comp and god the investment is hellla huge

I had to buy his equipment with luck

[past urchin]

Its powerful.
Im not saying its not.
But a +20 Daimon with +30 Rowan
a Tasi and a Ferael carries singles equally well.
If not better.

[high marlin]

Ainz is good late game, not early

[edgy lotus]

Try this...

Brutus Lucius
Daimon Rowan Ainz

[past urchin]

Yeah thats where you may start thinking about a Dim comp realistically
+30 Albedo
Ainz
+30 Rowan
And a third dim to max out Albedo's SI.
Like it is on @ruby drift 's pic.
An uninvested, unsupported Ainz wont carry shit just because he is Ainz.

[edgy lotus]

Arthur is a good third dim there I reckon

[twin socket]

Are my artifacts good or

[ruby drift]

Yeah i gonna have my ainz 30+ soon just need more lab coins. But yeah, ainz comp really need investment. Especially with his 9/9 furni

I run my rowan and ainz with dura call

[twin socket]

@pale monolith @past urchin @ruby drift @edgy lotus thank u guys for all the help

[edgy lotus]

Sword on Daimon. Eye or Call on Ainz. Bell looking artifact on Brutus. Drape on Lucius.

[twin socket]

Ok

[edgy lotus]

Call on Rowan. Eye on Ainz.

[ruby drift]

Uhhh if you are gonna run ainz comp. You'll need albedo. Her 30+ works well with ainz and one more dim

[twin socket]

Ok

[onyx wadi]

Can anyone help with this stage? Isabella and Mehira is such a pain with frontline hendrik

[past urchin]

How many SI emblems do you have?
@twin socket
Screenshot your bag pls.

[twin socket]

Ok

[past urchin]

Yeah...
Hendrik is a pain for Lucretia in general.

[sand parcel]

rip

[past urchin]

Rip

[twin socket]

I can delete old ones one sec

Only ones with Si

[twin socket]

Is this what u asked for?

[agile roost]

Someone help

[ruby drift]

Dont invest on shamira... she falls off rrally quickly

[ruby drift]

Try brutus lucius
Ainz gwenth lyca

[twin socket]

I stopped building her si im waiting for swap scrolls to come out and maybe use that idk

[past urchin]

Yup.
So...
Get every red emblem you can from the event.
Daimon to +20
then
Rowan to +30
And then say hello to ch 25 without blinking an eye.
At which point you will need things like Tasi and Ferael.
@twin socket
Also dont use your swap scroll!!!!!
You only get 1 ever.
This is nowhere near worth swapping.

[high marlin]

Why is your carry?

[twin socket]

Ok

[agile roost]

Thnx it actually worked

Now I'm stuck on 12-30

[ruby drift]

Ohh and dont upgrade equipment unless its mythic with faction

[agile roost]

Lucius is my carry and saurus

[twin socket]

Ok

[ruby drift]

Lmao send pix

[high marlin]

Lucius is not a carry

[twin socket]

Me?

[ruby drift]

Nah gorilladesu 😅

[high marlin]

In the pinned section of the questions channel there's some guides you should check out Gorilla

[twin socket]

@past urchin @high marlin @ruby drift
I am gonna head to bed any last tips?

[past urchin]

Sleep well :)

[twin socket]

I will 🙂

[high marlin]

Check the guides

[slate elbow]

Help pls thx

[sand parcel]

what should I do here? really want those 60 stones

[ruby drift]

Try
Rosa Lucius
Fawkes rowan Belinda

[solemn bramble]

is this line up good?

[pale monolith]

No

[solemn bramble]

how should i change it?

[signal pond]

can someone help with my lineup?

[pale monolith]

Well why aren't you using Belinda as your carrier? Also don't use Twins, Celestials/Hypogean are good late-game. Wu Kong shines untill lvl 100 then he is useless, so replace him.
Also why use Numisu if he is only lvl 21?

So:
Numisu

Estrilda
Tasi
A tank
Belinda

[edgy lotus]

Maybe try

Rowan Thoran
Daimon Tasi Saveas

[solemn bramble]

idk i tryed to use numisu when twins dont work but i dont have xp to lvl up

[pale monolith]

Also stop ascending heros to L if you can't ascend them to L+

[high marlin]

Who is your carry

[solemn bramble]

yea i know i made that mistake

[signal pond]

ainz & daimon

[high marlin]

That's not gonna work. You need to have 1 carry and have them 20-40 levels over the rest of your team

[solemn bramble]

i cant replace wu kong bc i dont have any other good tank

[signal pond]

ainz is in the highest level rn

[high marlin]

Replace diamon with rowan, Lyca with one of the tanks

[signal pond]

okay thanks

[high marlin]

For ainz comps you wanna stall the enemy until Ainz can ult

Talene and Rowan also enable him very well. @signal pond try tasi instead of lyca.

[signal pond]

thank you! it worked

[pale kettle]

so how far i couldve go with this roster

[high marlin]

Which enemy is giving you the biggest problem

[pale kettle]

brutus

and tas

oh

[high marlin]

First put rowan in the center so he can reach everyone. Second you can use Tasi to try to banish him or Fawkes to casket him

[high marlin]

What's your main formation

[pale kettle]

Safiya/Joker Lyca
Eironn Rowan
Antandra

[high marlin]

Did it work Fenix?

[timid mauve]

been trying this for half a day now, no rng in my favor. am I doing something wrong? got this lineup off 2020 reddit

[high marlin]

Antandra doesn't really fit into any comp besides the Skreg one

But since Eironn comps are very flexible she should still be useful

[warm swan]

@timid mauve does your Rowan have decent gears? Try it with Rowan, Lucius, Bel, Fawkes, Nem. Put chalice on Rowan so he can tank Athalia and keep her occupied. Put eye on Nem for the haste and see if she can charm Fera quick so he fears his team instead. Can also try Nem charming Arden so he roots his team. I just hope you end everything quick before Athalia ults.

[timid mauve]

he's on full t1 with SI 30. but let me try what you said

[rocky merlin]

Who should I put

[warm swan]

@rocky merlin for ascension? None

[timid mauve]

i'm assuming like this

[agile roost]

Help pls

[quasi dirge]

Hello :) I don't really know what to focus know, I can ascend Gwyneth (need a bit of food) or estrilda, Skriath will be ascend soon, my Lucius is kinda usless and I donc know what I should use instead of him

[warm swan]

if you clear your entire hero formation, the blank slots goes 1-2-3-4-5. So when players say Rowan, Lucius, Bel, Fawkes, Nem, 99% it usually means Rowan in position 1, Lucius in position 2, and so on and so forth

[timid mauve]

^ sounds great, i'll keep that in mind. thanks!

[past urchin]

Do you have any Skriath furniture in the bank by any chance?
@quasi dirge

[quasi dirge]

Only one for now, started the game not really long ago so I'm working on it, does it power him up a lot ?

[past urchin]

With 3 he enables a really powerful setup called 5 pull.
Id aim for that since you have a built Eironn and Gorvo.
Well and Rowan though he needs his +30 like now ;)

[quasi dirge]

Ok, my rowan is +25 but the event is nice for red chest, eironn is +30. Do I need skriath +30?

[past urchin]

Nope.
Not right away.
Just 3F.
It pulls the backline enemies to the center at the start of the battle.
Then your Eironn pulls all 5 from the middle.
Then Gorvo jumps and then they die.
+30 Skriath allows him to contribute to the damage, but its not a priority.

[quasi dirge]

Nice nice, so eironn skriath gorvo rowan and Lyca maybe for faster kills ?

[sand parcel]

@worn spire @ruby drift I tried both of your forms for like 100 retries each and neither are doing it

[sand parcel]

I'm okay with switching a crystal slot, what hero could surely help me beat this?

[past urchin]

Yup.
Something along these lines.
Its not updated to the newest standards, but the major premises stayed the same pretty much.
Find your 5 pull :)
@quasi dirge
https://amp.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/le0b0p/visual_guide_to_end_game_pve_formations_by_arty/

[sand parcel]

think an e Cecilia could stall the not coffined shem enough to beat it?

[quasi dirge]

Thx a lot for your time :)

[tepid holly]

Ainz comp is used

[maiden marsh]

Eironn needs to be highest power to take daimon barricade if I remember this stage correctly

[tepid holly]

He got the barricade, I still fail to hit the rng on approx 300-400 runs

[maiden marsh]

[tepid holly]

Still no 5p cause skriath loves to stay at 2/9

I shouldn’t be getting stuck at a stage like this lmao 😩

[silk drift]

will 5 pull work against Antandra?

[sand parcel]

who should I sub in here, I got a crystal slot

[wise schooner]

What’s a basic team I can use for story. I don’t want to invest into the wrong heroes

[tepid holly]

for the stages before the one I'm stuck on (36) ainz comp generally pops her with farel to cc but you'd need at least 209 ainz, I ran 309 and +30 bedo

[silk drift]

I do have both but I am asking if 5 pull works since my ainz comp gets powercapped

[tepid holly]

I don't have skriath to A or the last furn for 3/9. Try @maiden marsh sry for the ping

[silk drift]

oh it's alright. I thought you might have an idea since you wanted to use it

[tepid holly]

I did but I left skriath at M+ with 2 E copies cause I was on 2/9 till now, I saw tru7h run some 5p comps so yeah. As for powercap, try switching ainz's artifact to windbinder if the power cap diff lets u, I'm also hard stuck at power caps and need to compromise

[muted stream]

Im gonna swap shem with izold when the patch come out so who do i put in the wishlist íntead of him now?

[marsh nymph]

help pls

[frail lodge]

hello wanna ask about laneup at 25-60, anyone can help? for merc or any formation? thx b4

[final steeple]

Been stuck here (8-16) for a few days, and am now level capped on many of my heroes. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong?

[past urchin]

Daimon

Brutus
Eironn
Rowan
Ferael
@frail lodge

[delicate forum]

Help please😁

[frail lodge]

thx it works..

[past urchin]

You want Eironn to take the energy potion, hence Daimon is out of the cart range on purpose.
Basically you gotta burst down Ezizh and Lucius cant ult.
Else your Daimon will get locked no matter how many potions he gets @frail lodge

You may try Tasi instead of Brutus if she can frontline.
Even better.

[frail lodge]

oh yeah good explaination haha.. placing him in the middle is not really popup in my mind.. coz i always aim that safiya haha my bad to not takedown ezizh and luci first oh okay noted for that
yea but its works thx again

[past urchin]

It will take some retries...
Every Ezizh stage does.
Good luck.

[frail lodge]

well only need 3 retry b4 now i am already at 26-3 btw haha

[past urchin]

Oh you got it.
Grats.

[frail lodge]

yep thx again for the 3rd time haha okay at least i can get misty chest b4 they done now back to afk again haha

[wet shuttle]

Hi, I just returned after a long hiatus, left around the time Rowan was introduced, so I kinda had Shemira focused quite a bit. I'm currently at Chapter 20, and very lost with the new meta. Any suggestions for which of the meta lineups I should aim for?

Sorry, I can't seem to post my heroes, it keeps saying it is explicit content

https://ibb.co/9t1nPsx

[woven lagoon]

I'd continue with classic Shemira comp since you are invested in her already, around chapter 24/25 you can change to Daimon

They are releasing a swap scroll next week so you'll be able to swap her for Daimon or Eironn for either or their comps until 31

[lilac shore]

There is so much healing I can't kill anything

[low ravine]

I don’t know what’s a good team with my heroes and now I’m stuck

[tulip dagger]

Absolutely stuck, dont want to use merc as i might need it for -40

[low ravine]

You don't have a damage dealer in your team. Swap out Lucius for Belinda or maybe Ezio/Tidus

[final zenith]

Need some helppp

[tulip dagger]

Bel/tidus getting oneshot, ezio survives some more but still not enough

Any other ideas? :(

[low ravine]

Rng is important, and swap heroes around. If the top side is too bursty put Brutus there and put your carry at the bottom

Also Ferael and Tasi, just swap them and see which does better

And if you get somewhat close just keep retrying for rng

[tulip dagger]

Frontline getting almost oneshot no matter what i put, luc shield is whats been keeping me alive so far

Well will keep trying

Heh mercd that stage, got the other one ez and lucked out on 40 with ezio

[agile roost]

Help

[woven lagoon]

read a new player guide

[summer cedar]

Brutus thoran tasi rowan daimon

[summer cedar]

Try belinda for fera perhaps. Stop making L heroes

[delicate forum]

Status update . I completed 25-48. Now I'm stuck on 25-53 Please send help. Thanks in advance

[pale kettle]

Any advice? Athalia sucks

[delicate forum]

Rowan dodges the first CC dive. That is the easiest counter in my opinion

I almost never use Talene in most of my teams. Ainz is my guy. Saurus can cover for much healibg anyways

[delicate forum]

If you have a good agility hero with good gear aswell they'll dodge the inital attack

[delicate forum]

How does a match turn out? Who dies first etc.?

[hidden condor]

Lyca, Ferael and Luscius all die around the same time

[delicate forum]

Tried brutus on the other side?

[hidden condor]

Same result, don’t think I’m outputting enough damage at the moment

[past urchin]

Do you have any more LB fodder besides these 3 Miraels?
E+ fodder I mean.
@hidden condor

[hidden condor]

Nope, I’m probably one LB pull away from having enough to get the Mirael L+ to feed the Rowan I have

[past urchin]

Yup.
Exactly what I was aiming at ;)

[delicate forum]

Tasi is very good. I don't have her built but you could probably use her.

[past urchin]

I also suggest droping Lucius like a rock.
Its time for him.

[delicate forum]

True

[hidden condor]

I’m pretty much saving my emblems for Rowa!’s Myrhic, should have him +25 as soon as I get him, and yeah I know Lucius is trash, just unsure who would take his spot

[past urchin]

Rowan.
With +30 SI and T2 boots/weapon he can tank practically everything and anything except mage heroes

[delicate forum]

Like I use Rowan and mine is normal legendary. I need one more copy😜 He still works though and I'm on stage 25-53

Im stuck though

[ruby drift]

Who is ur carry?

[delicate forum]

Ainz ofc

[ruby drift]

Ohh samw

[delicate forum]

SI 30

Still need 9/9 furniture but he works

[ruby drift]

Same i am just waiting for lab coins then ill him as 30+. Still reluctant to use my red cards for him.

[past urchin]

As for this stage try like that.
Ferael

Brutus
Rowan
Lyca/Lucius
Daimon

@hidden condor

[delicate forum]

Any tips for me @past urchin

[ruby drift]

Me too 🙂

[past urchin]

Give Ferael a purple weapon if you use Lyca and a legendary one if no Lyca.
@hidden condor

[hidden condor]

Both of them have Mythics at the moment

[hidden condor]

Finally beat if, feels like it was incredibly lucky but thanks for the lineup!

[past urchin]

Grats.

Yeah its gonna take some retries.
Your heroes are solid but the comp is kinda slow without Rowan energy pot.

[proper orchid]

Brutus times out the damage mitigation every time

[past urchin]

Id try something like.
Albedo

Arthur
Ainz
Rowan
Ezio

Drop Joker for now.
You are lacking sustain and you dont really have anything to enable his all out.
@delicate forum

[proper orchid]

Brutus Talene daimon ferael lyca

[past urchin]

Ferael

Rowan
Silas
Brutus
Izold

Legendary weapon on Ferael
@proper orchid
Have you tried something like that?

[proper orchid]

Yeah, Rowan is dead before he can heal izold even once

[past urchin]

Yeah...Saveas and Brutus roar disabling dodge :/

[proper orchid]

Nvm I got it with the formation in the screenshot

[past urchin]

Gz.

[agile roost]

Any formation suggestions

[pale monolith]

Shemira

Lucius
Rowan
Lyca/Rosaline
Safyia/Lyca

[pale monolith]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/the_brutal_citadel.php?floor=360

[rigid birch]

thanks btw

[pale monolith]

👍

[sick siren]

Any tips?

I can swap Tasi to Ainz

[pale monolith]

Send all your heros

[pale monolith]

Why prioritize Saurus SI over Ainz

[sick siren]

I got Ainz a day ago😅

[pale monolith]

Ainz

Brutus
Daimon
Saurus
Lyca

[sick siren]

I swap the connection?

[pale monolith]

I am have brain damage

Too bad you don't have Rowan

[sick siren]

I have just as elite

[pale monolith]

Still, use him as healer

[sand parcel]

who should I swap out so I can win?

[pale monolith]

It's useless to put Sword on Rosaline without Signature Item, there is litterally 0 reason to put Call on Fawkes, that's a mistake, does Roean survives enough to ult?

[sand parcel]

no he doesnt

which artys should I put on those two then?

[pale monolith]

Put Call only on Belinda and in Rowan something for health regen like Cape

As for Fakwes maybe also a cape and slap some boots on him for dodge

@sand parcel

[grim bolt]

Could I get some help with this?

Here's my lineup

[rigid birch]

@grim bolt ^
put alna in the crystal, remove belinda

[grim bolt]

@rigid birch how should I place them?

[rigid birch]

1. Lyca
2. Brutus
3. Rowan
4. Ainz
5. Alna
   in that order

[grim bolt]

Okay thanks, I'll run that through a couple dozen times and hopefully get it

[mighty sage]

Any ideas

[delicate forum]

I hate to tell you but I don't think it will work. Have tried for a while now.

Arden's root is quite painful and Mirael aswell

[grim bolt]

@rigid birch Is ainz supposed to be able to 1 hit them?

[rigid birch]

probably yes

[grim bolt]

@rigid birch Yeah my Ainz isn't able to do that yet :/

[rigid birch]

which artifacts do you have

[grim bolt]

Using dura's eye on Ainz right now

[rigid birch]

if you have this weeks merc, merc a +30 albedo and put her instead of brutus

[grim bolt]

Sadly already used mine

[rigid birch]

try sending your box
(hero list)

[sand parcel]

what arty for rosa and lucius?
and is that form good, or should I switch it?
and gear priority for Belinda, rosa, and rowan?

[rigid birch]

Belinda>Rowan>Rosa

@sand parcel

[sand parcel]

I'm definitely getting closer, I put eye on rosa and chalice on lucius, should I change those?

[rigid birch]

Eye -> Belinda
Call -> Rosa and Fawkes
Chalice -> Rowan and Lucius

[west fog]

Mehira keeps beating me up really hard. Do i have to just keep replaying 1000x, or am I missing something here?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/825867678706565150/unknown.png?width=384&height=682

ah, nvm, i just needed to put in daimon.

[sand parcel]

daimon mvp

[west fog]

ainz still did most damage

[delicate forum]

I did it! i adjusted it like this though
Ainz
Arthur
Rowan
Albedo
Ezio

[sand parcel]

finally got it, all for naught

[rigid birch]

welcome to faction towers

[woven mason]

some advices?

[shrewd sorrel]

yello help needed

[low apex]

Any suggestions who I can merc to beat this? Don’t have any friends with +30 Lucretia and I’m out of duras tears so what you see there are the only options I have

[grim bolt]

Anyone got any tips?

Here's my lineup

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/c6f4f82b6b4987c00a8d21bb9f542ac2
Help pls

[unborn cradle]

hi, i don´t know too mucho about the game, what can i do? what lineup use, and what characters go for

[pine wing]

Struggling in the campaign. I don’t know what team to make

[gentle compass]

Can I get some help. I cant think of what to do because of that guy who WONT STOP TANGLING MY HEROS.

[pine marlin]

The amount of L heros you have is concerning... But if I were you I'd just move more investment from antandra to belinda. 220 bel might be able to do it

[gentle compass]

Okay any other tips

[pine marlin]

Read the pins, they'll help

[gentle compass]

Okay thanks

Olay didnt help

[pine marlin]

That wasn't advice for you, it's a bit too late for you I'm afraid

[gentle compass]

Dang

Is there any positive possible way for me to defeat this ?

[unborn cradle]

good heroes for a new player?

[grand perch]

Hello @unborn cradle,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[slate elbow]

Save my soul

[elfin jackal]

how to win

[elfin jackal]

put in arden for saveas

[mighty sage]

Any ideas

[slate elbow]

He dies instantly

[elfin jackal]

is he able to get root ability off? oh wait nvm maybe dont use him then he becomes op at lvl 160

[summer cedar]

brutus lyca daimon rowan [flex]. show hero pool

@unborn cradle @pine wing read the 2 most recent pins in #classic-questions

[vapid field]

@summer cedar Actually managed that one by borrowing a tasi. Am still stuck on this though if you have any ideas. https://gyazo.com/b903efbd29f6637de07fe9eb5f8fcc1d

[summer cedar]

nara/atha the mehira. if ur trying to luc cheese, I'd swap brutus out for someone who dies and buffs luc off the bat. twins for ex

[summer cedar]

what part of show hero pool didn't you get? I need more to work with

[vapid field]

Rip me https://gyazo.com/54d75120220cc73d59d986c74be9ec71

[elfin jackal]

oooo good idea also finally beat the stage :DDDDDD

[summer cedar]

perhaps brutus arthur albedo rowan ainz. this is p close to a comp I use but without ainz or bedo 30 it'll be tough

[karmic valve]

How am I doing? Who should my main campaign lineup be? I'm mid ch 25. Currently using albedo daimon queen Rowan ainz

[vapid field]

Swapped Brutus for Farael and it worked. tytysm

[summer cedar]

doing good but could also go further. brutus rowan lyca eironn daimon or variations thereof will get u to 26 easily

[karmic valve]

Brutus and Rowan front?

[high marlin]

Starting to stall out mid chapter 24. I'm using eironn comp but is there anything I can do unit wise to push through this wall? Or is it just gear/SI I need to focus on

I'm working on ainz so just ignore him atm

My main formation

[summer cedar]

yes. geared rowan is a great tank

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609275505526439974/812096394981539870/image0.gif

[summer cedar]

you'd be past 24 if u managed ur fodder correctly.

• stop making L heroes. go straight to A or don't use fodder
• revert the second kren in rickety cart
• get rowan 30
• this belongs in #classic-questions

[bold meteor]

I'm HARD stuck

[high marlin]

-Ive done about 150 pulls this month alone and didn't get one copy of Lyca or tasi (both only need 1 more to ascend)
-i did revert kren just now
-my rowan is +26 but my heroic ship is finished so I can't earn anymore chests from that.
-sorry I was mainly asking about my formation, next time will be in questions

[bold meteor]

Challenger shop is a option if ur THAT desperate but in my opinion u should just wait for your 2 monthly pulls of any normal hero copy u want, that's what I am doing with my rowan currently he is M plus and I only have one e plus copy of it so I'm waiting for my 2 monthly pulls

[bold meteor]

But any1 wanna help me with this XD I tried so many different lineups

[high marlin]

I can only do 1 hero choice bc I technically only have 4 ascended. Lyca would've been my 5th for the upgrade

[karmic valve]

Daimon, Talene, tasi, Rowan, eironn@bold meteor

[bold meteor]

Oooo I didnt try talene!!!! Wait so daimon talene front then tasi rowan eirron back in that order?

[karmic valve]

Yes try that

[bold meteor]

Kk brb ty

[open quartz]

What and how can i improve my team

[karmic valve]

Don't make Legendary heroes unless you can get them to Legendary+

[bold meteor]

UR LEGIT A BLESSING FROM GOD O MY GOSH

[karmic valve]

Reset orthos and put him in the crystal

[bold meteor]

It workedddddd LES gooo ur amazing

[karmic valve]

No problem dude. Glad I could help. Talene is awesome. I use her in ch 25 at E+ use her more often

[open quartz]

Oh Ok uhm question is getting a wukong legendary+ good??? And thank you

[bold meteor]

Kk can I add u and msg u if I ever need help again?? Ur too good

[karmic valve]

Not in my opinion. @open quartz wukong is good early game but falls off pretty hard

[open quartz]

Ahhhh ok thank you very much

[bold meteor]

To be honest what I did when I was at ur stage was I had mirael L plus at 140 and 120 as my carry, wukong is better at lvl 100 and below

So no dont make him L plus

[open quartz]

Oh ok thank for the advice

[bold meteor]

Np and you kind of make a mild mistake making those 4 heroes L

[karmic valve]

More than mild sadly. It's a lot of wasted foodder. But you're still early game so you can recover. Just don't do it anymore lol

[bold meteor]

U should NEVER make a hero L without being able to make em L plus right away as I think LeFond said

[open quartz]

Ahhhhh i see i just kinda did cause it said i could of and i didnt think much of it XD but thanks ill keep that in mind

[bold meteor]

I know XD but I dont wanna scare the man by telling him he screwed up his acc and slowing down his progress by like a month or more lmfao

[open quartz]

Also question what are some unit i should try to get

[bold meteor]

Honestly I think ur a bit too early to worry about units, for now just have a decent team with a good carry for early game like a L plus saveas or mirael and I'm pretty sure arden is good as well

[bold meteor]

If u have any more questions msg me btw

[open quartz]

Ok thank you

[bold meteor]

No problem I am glad to help you

[pale kettle]

Can anyone give me some advice? Been trying and trying and idk what else to do. Don’t want to use my op friends yet

[pale kettle]

Brutus grezhul tasi daimon shemira

[maiden marsh]

Some massive fodder misallocation going on here with all those L heroes. And those mercenaries are mmm...not good lol. Some better options would be ainz, daimon, whatever high tier character you can find. Those are actual stagebusters.

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle how should I line them up?

@maiden marsh unfortunately I realized this too late but trying to fix it.

[maiden marsh]

The lineup you were given is in 1-5 order, numbers are on the ground of the battlefield

[pale kettle]

Just like i said.

Place heroes first From left to right

Oh ok thanks

Not so fast.

Make sure it works first

I already did it ...

Sorry 😅 I tweaked it a bit but go through

[tall dew]

shemira, safiya, thoran, silas, rowan, izold, rosaline, lorsan, lyca

what lineup would be the best for campaign? please help me

im currently using shemira, safiya, thoran, silas, rowan

[summer sundial]

Need a little help on who I should SI 30 next

[bold meteor]

Bro I said I was waiting for my 2 monthly pulls but HOLY SHIT IM SO LUCKY I just finished ch 21 and got 20 fac scrolls so I used em for lightbearers (used 300 gems) and then each 10 summon with em I got a rowan SO NOW I AM ABOUTA MAKE A A ROWAN BB LES GOOOO

[short zephyr]

hello , you can ask this in #classic-questions , just post your unit-roster

[thorn coral]

What hero’s are good on chapter 22?

[safe falcon]

any tips on positioning?

[icy parcel]

Do NOT put Gwyn farthest from Ezizih, you are asking to be mind controlled

[pale kettle]

@icy parcel there is 9-40 lineup and my roster

[icy parcel]

First, don't put Ainz in Frontline
Put Lyca in frontline instead
2nd put Nara in Crystal and make her face Isabella or Arden

[pale kettle]

My lyca is like 38k hp

[icy parcel]

Doesn't matter if she dies, if she gives the haste her job is done

[pale kettle]

Ahh ok

[icy parcel]

3rd, take Gwyn out of crystal and put Talene instead, the heals are good

[pale kettle]

Remove tasi or rowan for nara?

Also i removed gwen for nara just now, do i remove brutus and put talene?

[icy parcel]

Nah, Brutus is great, better than Lucius

Yeah, limited slots is a Pain early

[pale kettle]

Nah didnt work

Yeah i think i just gotta wait till i can ascend more or lvl ainz more or something, dunno

@icy parcel ty for tryna help

[royal coral]

From your listing, try this team instead: tasi brutus daimon rowan silas, swapping around as needed but that's the team im still using at chapter 21 now, or replace brutus with lyca. I haven't used lyca after getting my brutus high enough, he could tank an incredible amount of dmg before dying and with silas's ult that's even longer. Only at Mythic+ tho, before that Lyca seemed to be better while brutus dies too fast.

Daimon should get the job done fairly comfortable.

Shemira can also carry the whole fight by herself at chapter 9, either her or daimon, and they both pair really well with silas's invulnerable ult which can buy some extra time for those 2 to nuke with their ult.

[pale kettle]

@royal coral thing is, during the fight, no one is able to get their ult off

Theyre all dying before they can cast their ult, except ainz sometimes but he dies mid chant cuz it takes forever, but also hes like 60k hp or something

[shrewd sorrel]

yelp

[jovial sable]

I'm stuck at chapter 19 and i have no idea what i should change,any suggestions?

[pale monolith]

Got Rowan ?

[jovial sable]

Yeah i do

[pale monolith]

Use him instead of Daimon, maybe a Fawkes to coffin crissbow guy instead of Tasi

[shrewd sorrel]

could u help me?

[shrewd sorrel]

can't he use belinda ro counter isa?

[jovial sable]

I haven't ascended em much since i got belinda to mythic+

[shrewd sorrel]

ah alr, im syuck on ascensions 2 atm :(

but tomorrow the update is here

@pale monolith any recommendations

[icy parcel]

I see multiple issues with your box
But first and foremost, I assume you don't got the Fodder to take Daimon to M?

Get Nara in Crystal, use her to keep Arden busy
Saurus and Rowan Frontline, Ainz in a corner, and probably Gwyn so her flame arrows don't let Ulmus heal much

[shrewd sorrel]

my graveborn and maulers have the least fodder out of all of them

alr

[icy parcel]

You shouldn't have taken any of your current M to M+ heroes without having at least 7 copies

[shrewd sorrel]

nje ik atm im fixin the account bcs i went south when i started

lmao nara gon'

[icy parcel]

Alrighty, they are only 30 lvls above you, shouldn't be much of a problem

[shrewd sorrel]

the big problem here is shem cz saurus is rlly vulnerable against her

[icy parcel]

Shemira only targets up or down for the Soul beam, swap them around, or disregard Saurus and put Brutus

[shrewd sorrel]

did that she always b on saurus

[frosty spindle]

Help

[half delta]

Got 3 copies of Lucius, Shemira, Rowen, and Gwyneth. I have 6 days old acc, should I exclude Ludius and Shemira from my WL since they fall off the end game meta or conitinue with them until I get the copies?

[pale monolith]

Make Shemira your carry for the moment but you should be always looking forward to other carriers such as Daimon. And Lucius will be okay for the moment, you will reach end-game in about 6 months so you don't have to think about that now

[ruby remnant]

Need help, currently stuck at 29-60, trying to push through to chapter 30 asap for the extra hero copy from misty valley
My mercs are Shem, Ezio and Saurus

[half delta]

thanks

[drowsy gazelle]

does the replays at afkhelper not work?

[ruby remnant]

I'll check it out rn, gimme a minute

[drowsy gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/826029780422885426/Bluestacks_Ts1jWkyO6r.png

[pale monolith]

[jovial sable]

I got stuuuck again,i tried a bunch of comps from searching on reddit and twitter but none of them work maybe cause i dont have many characters ascended,anyone got any suggestions?

[pale monolith]

Does Fawkes coffin or he misses most of the time? If he coffins does he die shortly after?

[jovial sable]

Not shortly after but yea its pretty quick to die

[pale monolith]

You got Lorsan?

[jovial sable]

Yeah,E+

[pale monolith]

Use him instead of Fawkes but put him in the upper corner so Silviana would target him, giving Rowan enough time to ult and also linking 2 enemies to recive more damage

[jovial sable]

I'll try rn tysm

F it didnt work,pretty much the same result as before

[pale monolith]

Send stats

[jovial sable]

Of whom?

[pale monolith]

The battle( After the battle is finished there should be a button in the lower right corner)

[jovial sable]

Oh ye 1 sec

[pale monolith]

Does Rowan die close to using ult, what artifact is on him?

[jovial sable]

Sometimes yes sometimes not,his artifacts is the longhorn (i think,the game is in italian for me)

[royal coral]

From what i learned it's not over yet until you tried the same formation 100 times and somehow made it through

[pale monolith]

The one on Ainz?

[jovial sable]

Yeah

[pale monolith]

Who else has that artifact?

[jovial sable]

Belinda and lucrezia

[pale monolith]

Remove it from Lucretia and try again, also maybe try Dura's Cape on Rowan

[jovial sable]

I'll try with both options

[pale monolith]

The more heros have Call equipped, the less energy it generates @jovial sable

[jovial sable]

ohhhh i didnt know that,also it didnt work with both

[pale monolith]

Bruh

[jovial sable]

Yeah, bruh

[pale monolith]

How much does the battle take

[jovial sable]

As in time or stats or idk

[pale monolith]

Time

[jovial sable]

I had 58 secs left

[pale monolith]

Put Dura's Sword on Belinda, call only on Rowan and hope he ults

[jovial sable]

Alright if it doesnt work I'll just give up for now,its taking too much time xjxhdidid and yeah

[pale monolith]

There is the last option of using a mercenary

[jovial sable]

what would u reccomend?

[teal rock]

Wanted to replace Saveas with Belinda, sounds like a good idea?

[hollow hatch]

Looks fine except thoran prob a better tank than Daimon

You want Fawkes behind Belinda also

[drowsy gazelle]

i think putting daimon at fawkes's place, and put thoran at frontline is better

[hollow hatch]

And Lyca is good, but sometimes you want Rosaline instead, it’s stage dependent

[drowsy gazelle]

daimon at E+ does a pretty decent amount of dmg

[teal rock]

Hmm, to be fair I always considered Daimon as a tank lol

Ofc, Belinda is not yet ascended, gonna do now

[hushed wadi]

[pale monolith]

Ainz maybe but at your stage any carry hero is good at an high ascension lvl

[jovial sable]

I dont have ainz but someone from my friend list always lends me it so

ill try tysm and sorry for the waste of time

[pale monolith]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/tower_of_light.php?floor=363

[pale monolith]

No problem

[hushed wadi]

I've tried their formations, does being about 10 levels lower make it impossible for me, also my Hendrick is like +0

[pale monolith]

Crazy

[slate elbow]

Help

[pale monolith]

Send pic of all your heros

[sullen bone]

Any idea?

[teal rock]

What am I doing wrong here? I few that Belinda should go back, but no idea who could be replaced. Lyca is required for energy, rest are for utility. Any help?

[pale kettle]

probably fawkes with arden

since he can disable 3 heroes as opposed to one, and that's usually valuable early/mid game

[teal rock]

But Belinda should stay in front? Cause she is getting killed before ult.

[pale kettle]

try with arden a couple of times, if that doesn't work then replace her placement with arden

but you're in a tough situation if you can't kill Isabella fast due to the rework that she received

[teal rock]

Yeah, can’t kill, she is my headache, killing either Arden or Belinda.

[timid lintel]

Any ideas?

[dapper oyster]

Which lineup would be best for me right now? Currently running tasi rowan saurus eiron lyca

[dusk verge]

Any tips to make this lineup better for an easier climb through campaign? I tend to use Eironn, Rowan, Tasi(trial), Thoran, and switch between Arden and Rosaline for some stages. Currently still attempting to beat 8-8

[woven mason]

I don t know where did you get trial tasi but you should ascend to L+ mirael or saveas for pre 160 and after that use daymon or shemira or some other good carry. Eirron is not good before it s ascended

[warm swan]

I think that's a reinforcement Tasi

[woven mason]

make ainz 180, get his SI to 20 and he ll carry you forever

[timid lintel]

I’ll give that a try thanks

[dapper oyster]

Which lineup would be best for me right now?

[woven mason]

and also you need rowan 30 SI asap, that first thing you do when you get M rowan

[maiden marsh]

Daimon comp, something like tasi rowan daimon lyca feral
Frankly you could be ch31 with those heroes and levels

[woven mason]

I just passed chap 28 with this but you need 3 fur on skriath

[dapper oyster]

yeah well seems kind of impossible as at ch 28 they seem to destroy mine am i douing something wrong?

[sullen bone]

Any idea? Mirael or Isabella ult =wipe
I tried with Brutus and alna which buy some time to Daimon but not enough to kill Grezhul or estrilda (or when he does he either get an old from mirael or isa or both and dies)

[maiden marsh]

Well what lineup are you trying rn

[dapper oyster]

oh i see and every hero is T2?

[dapper oyster]

mm its usualy
tasi
rowan
eion
lyca
saurus

[timid lintel]

Will remember that when I get more copies thanks

[woven mason]

no, only full eirron and boots and chest from rowan, rest is mythic

[maiden marsh]

Pretty scuffed eironn team, use the daimon comp I suggested in positions 1-5 and you can sweep at least 2 chapters

[dapper oyster]

allright will try thank you @woven mason aight thank you too long way to skriath f3 yet for me

[woven mason]

it will be worth it, but I also think that daymon comp is even better, I just don t have daymon ascended

[dapper oyster]

Yeah im gonna definitely try that as i have him asc +20 3/9 so i think he should do well

I just lack gear on those heroes so im gonna steal from eiron and other heroes

[woven mason]

you can also combine eirron with daymon since eironn pull can make daymon ult faster

[dapper oyster]

hmm allright im gonna try different approaches if i get stuck then thanks

[woven mason]

and btw this is kinda standard eironn/skriath pull

[dull bay]

I need help with lightbearer 300

[pale monolith]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/tower_of_light.php?floor=300

[west spire]

Is this a good starting account? or should I reroll again?

[pale monolith]

I mean can't tell yet

[woven mason]

can somebody give me advice for this stage? wherever gorvo jumps it instant kill my heroes

[pale monolith]

Try Brutus to keep Grovo busy?

[woven mason]

he just jump over him

[mighty sage]

Any ideas, I’m level capped rn so not sure what else to try

[slate elbow]

Can I win or am I underleveled

[velvet grail]

What my 3 best teams would be for the 3team arena

[dusk verge]

Oh okay. Thanks! Rental Tasi is from some event that I forgot the name.

[dusk verge]

Ah yes it's from the reinforcements event. Tagging @woven mason as well, as this answers your question

[woven mason]

push belinda or shemira to mythic, connect ainz to them and them get ainz SI and make him 180 level

[woven mason]

I m not very good at PVP and I don t see that you have some finished comps from guides but you have ainz, eirron, and izold which can be carries and then just build supports and tanks around them. You should get albedo and arthur for ainz comp and skriath 3/9 fur for 5 man pull

[mighty sage]

oh yea i can make shemira mythic someone told me not to and wait for dameon which is why i didnt yet

[woven mason]

well they are right but you can wait for that forever, I don t know how many copies of daymon you have

[mighty sage]

right now i need 1 more and he can be mythic i think

so idk if i should wait or just go with shemira

[woven mason]

well I could tell you to wait but I personally have never waited. But you will need to wait until you get some mythic carry. Another thing you can do (and I don t know if that s good idea) is connecting ainz to rowan and try to push some stages that way

Pushing ainz to mythinc is game changer so I can t tell you what you should do but what you can do

and last thing you can do is pushing some wilder to M and connecting ainz to that

[mighty sage]

hmm yea i could connect him and not use rowan? is rowan a big loss or nah

[woven mason]

rowan is big deal but maybe ainz can carry few stages without rowan. I personaly have never tried it since I played those stages before ainz was introduced

[mighty sage]

so right now ainz dies too quick to gt his ult off more than once max, would getting him to mythic help that?

[woven mason]

you know that ainz SI allows him to ult instantly without casting?

[mighty sage]

oh hahaha didnt know that lmao okay ill try it out

[woven mason]

you need to read what every skill does at least from you main carries. It s a lot of work but you miss important stuff like that 🙂

[warm swan]

He'd still need to gather energy tho. Which Rowan could help with his potion. Not to mention the health potion as well for added sustain

[slate elbow]

^^^^

[woven mason]

I doubt that you re underleveled but I might be mistaken. I don t know how good is daymon before M because before mythic I use only rare heroes as carries

[warm swan]

@mighty sage you can just ascend Shem to M instead using that Niru. Then link Ainz to her. That way you get both Rowan and Ainz at M.

[mighty sage]

yea true i can do that i dont think itll delay my dameon too much

[warm swan]

@mighty sage Or wait. Wait. How's your lb fodder? I see that L+ Bel with 2 e+ copies ready. Are you closer to making her A instead?

[knotty island]

How do I lvl up my hero’s?

To max cap

[maiden marsh]

I am somewhat afraid but please send a pic of your roster.
You need more A heroes to level crystal further, you can see by tapping it.

[knotty island]

Me

[agile roost]

Helps

[mighty sage]

i was close but i decided to make rowan mythic instead

now i need 2 more lb at l+ to get her to a i think

[tall dew]

what lineup would beat campaign easily?

[warm swan]

@mighty sage bringing Rowan to M first is a good call. Fodders for lb are more abundant than the rest of the factions anyway. If you are willing to wait, you can bring Bel to A, then link Ainz to her. That way you would unlock your hcp also for Daimon copies. Rowan can stay at M for a while since you only need his si for the earlier part of the game.

[mighty sage]

okay cool, maybe ill wait a bit and see if i can get luck if not ill try shemira to mythic

[warm swan]

That is one option, yes. But then you'd be forced to ascend Shem to A as well eventually. Which will delay Daimon. It's ultimately up to you. Weigh your options carefully tho. Always think about the long-term

@tall dew pre-100 is just Wukong. After that is fodder-carry territory. Then after that either Eironn/Daimon/Ainz

[tall dew]

pre 100 round or pre lvl 100s

[warm swan]

Hero lvl 100

[mighty sage]

yea ur right i guess ill wait and try to get bellinda to a now or switch ainz to rowan, ty for the advice

[tawny vessel]

just ascended 2 chars , what should I do now with Hogan? Do i reset Him and level up someone else since he's no longer L+?

[mighty sage]

damn so isabella still manages to ult and wipe the party i guess i should just wait for bellinda to mythic so i can have ainz and rowan together?

[pale kettle]

Hello i have difficulty to build a good team with my heroes any idea for this chapter ? ty ;)

[bright sigil]

Tips?

[orchid raven]

Idk what to do against this

[warm swan]

It's what I'd do. Also, Isabella had just been reworked so yeah, you would def have a hard time with her

[woven mason]

reset levels to all heroes except saveas and then raise saveas to 120 level and put rest of levels in somebody else, probably wukong

[pale kettle]

ty i'll try 🙂

[woven mason]

your rowan and aint should already have at least 20 SI. Ainz should be pushed to 220 before you put rowan 200 and rowan is not a tank

[orchid raven]

I maybe wasted some ressources into shemira before i had ainz :/

I'm going full Ainz/ Rowan now tho

I've been swapping around my characters, usually Talene/Lucius are frontrow but lucius just dies instantly

[woven mason]

that will happen more and more because lucius is pretty bad late game bcs he dies too fast if he doesn t get his shield

[orchid raven]

Ah man that sucks, so i should look into building some other Tank ? Who would you recommend

[woven mason]

albedo and arthur are No 1 for Ainz but I built skreg and thoran since I don t have first two and they work fine in most of situations

[orchid raven]

I have Skreg m+ currently linked to joker 👀

[woven mason]

other then that, you can use rowan as tank when you get his T2 boots but also his T2 weapon will be usefull and maybe tasi when she gets ascended with furniture

[bold meteor]

I'm stuck .-.

[woven mason]

I think you need more tank then damage dealer like joker

[orchid raven]

I really like the combination of Jokers def reduction + Ainz ult, but thx for your advice i'll see what i can do ! :))

[woven mason]

you should build fareal instead shemira

[bold meteor]

Hmm I know ferael would be better but my shemira is already L plus and it takes a while to gather fodder for graveborn for me

[woven mason]

doesn t matter, it would be like building fodder at this point if you keep building shemira

[bold meteor]

But ye I will do fereal I dont need either of them rn either way

[woven mason]

beside that, I would say that you use eiron, rowan lyca, daymon and tasi

or switch somebody for nara so you stop zaphrael teleport

[knotty island]

Who else should I put in the crystal?

[bold meteor]

So in that order? Eirron rowan front and lyca daimon tasi back

[woven mason]

well that depends who can survive how much so you ll need to experiment, plus it depends if you ll use nara or not since I guess that zaphrael one shots your entire team

[bold meteor]

It doesn't one shot my whole team it kills a few then orthus finishes off my last heroes alive

[bold meteor]

This did not work at all...

[woven mason]

so you will need nara and then I would put in bottom backline eirron and daymon in front of him and on top frontline I would put rowan and behind him lyca or tasi