lineup-help

[amber halo]

And he requires some investment

[inland niche]

Cool. So Arthur and Ezizh first.

[amber halo]

But when u have the investment he does mad damage I've done 100 million dmg with him in campaign but usually 60-80 mill and yeah for sure. And without albedo i wouldn't use ainz tbh

I just didn't care and fanboyed ainz and never regret it

[pale kettle]

I just don’t deal enough damage and rowan and silas get melted instantly, anything I can do?

[loud kraken]

You want to use your lab coins to buy Arthur. Once you buy Arthur, you'll want to start garrisoning Albedo. All of this will take you a huge chunk of your resources if you plan to garrison heroes + exchange (new Collab heroes) it's going to be very difficult to do so.

[loud kraken]

You're using basically 4 healers. Remove either Lucius or Silas - remove one that doesn't get to cast the ultimate and input Tasi. You'll need Rosaline to make your Shemira work in camping.

[inland niche]

Yeah, that's my concern that I'll not get enough resources to get any new dimensionals if I spend them all. I'll prioritise Arthur and then hopefully hoard some resources for a bit

[pale kettle]

Tasi suffers the same fate as silas

Who should I replace shem with? Or do I fodder her to get daimon to mythic?

[loud kraken]

Try by placing Talene upfront, put Tasi/ Daimon behind Shemira. See how it goes.

[inland niche]

@pale kettle try afk arena helper. It'll show you a load of winning formations that can give you an idea. It's what I've been using and it's helped tonnes

[loud kraken]

Shemira is a very outdated carry, you either go for her or you'll fodder her or keep her (which I wouldn't do at the state of the game she's at). If you're patient enough to get your Daimon to M, leave Shemira for graveborn tower (that she'll have minimal usage in) or for TR- nemora. Either way, your E+ Daimon will do as much as your L+ Shemira.

[random sonnet]

cant beat this stage
any suggestions

normally I have tayline where skreg is

[pale kettle]

Sadly I don’t have enough fodder to get my resonating crystal up and I can’t get an E+ daimon at lvl 160 through it

[loud kraken]

Consider placing Rowan where Skreg(remove Skreg) is. Ferael where your Mehira is, and try it out. If your Mehira ultimates should an easy battle. You can also consider removing Ferael and bumping Safiya from bottom so Daimon gets to live a bit longer.

[random sonnet]

I tried (in order from top to bottom)
Mehira rowan gwyneth daimon safiya
and my entire topside got obliterated in half a second

that one doesnt even last 5 seconds

ah
5th retry daimon got to ult on 1hp so he lived to mehira ult and it worked thx

[loud kraken]

Welcome.

[amber halo]

Tasi over silas tbh

[amber halo]

Maybe outdated but it still works like it always have been. He should just use tasi over silas that would win that fight 100÷

[loud kraken]

Trash unit is a trash unit. In the ranking label she's among the worst units. You'd either have to be very ignorant or plain dumb to raise a Shemira over Daimon and others (unless you're new to the game)in current era.

[random sonnet]

arent the lategame ratings only about how units function in late game content while fully maxed

shemira and lucius both rate awfully in late game
but theyre super strong early i think its fine to have them

worst case u get to l+ and fodder later

[cerulean storm]

Do you have some tip? I have Rowan SI23 for now and i'm stuck at 20-21

[pale monolith]

Please don't tell me you gave Shemira SI at +20 or +30

[faint current]

You can see that he does not in the picture.

[pale monolith]

I'd go with:
Lucius, Tasi - Front row;
Shemira, Rowan, Lyca - Back row;

[pale monolith]

Wdym

[magic scroll]

the circle on the hero portrait implies your SI

[faint current]

This is his Shemira

[pale monolith]

I tought it was ascension

[faint current]

This is the SI

This is the ascension

[pale monolith]

Crazy

[faint current]

Be more mindful of your ascension and fodder spending. You should stop ascending heroes unless it is with the direct goal of getting them fully ascended like your Shemira. Once you have 5 fully ascended non-dimensional heroes, you will be able to break the lvl 240 level cap.

[sterile dove]

Ainz is linked to Shem.. Any ideas? Far always fucks me man

[amber halo]

Daimon op af not even 3/9

[ocean pawn]

ideas? power cap is 320k below what i have there

[amber halo]

Any daimon mains?

[rigid birch]

Talene/Brutus seems nice in the place of Lyca
maybe even put rowan instead of lyca and then sub them in

[amber halo]

Yeah brutus worked after some retries

[heavy yacht]

Any idea on this one ? I'm kinda stuck on it

Here are my heroes as of now

[bold meteor]

Help I'm stuck

[fair lily]

Been stuck here for days. Help please 🙂

[final zenith]

Can i get some help? Im new to the game, and i cant beat this lvl

[proper linden]

Honestly you had really bad starters heroes.

Shemira was strong a lot of time ago, now all better early-mid game (f2p) composition use or Daimon as main carry, or Wilders comp.
You have no one that is really a tank, your group il all about support/cc/dmg but you are using shemira and she have no burst, she is more constantly dmg

Anyway, you can use rowan in your first line up, and another kind of tank, put shemira in the back in a safe place, put off the hypo gear heroes and use 1 celestial so at least you take a bonus faction

[heavy yacht]

need help on this one

[final zenith]

Then should i use this account, this is on the exact same lvl

[proper linden]

Honestly I like a bit more this one, but the important things is the wishlist as you going on

[faint current]

Stick with the first account. Having a copy of both Mehira and Athalia this early is great luck and great value. Lvls 1-100 you should be using Wukong anyway, which you have, other than that lvl 1-160 you should be leveling and ascending Mirael Hogan Arden Saveas and Niru

Be more mindful of how you ascend your fodder. You should try and combine R+ into the elite that you want using as few R+ of that hero as you can to make sure you get matching elites for E+, and another E+ when it comes time to ascend to L+

[proper linden]

I suggest you to start think at your ideal comp, and take the hero most usefull.
For example daimon nara//lyca tasi eiron// rowan rosaline //

[proper linden]

For scure it’s great luck, problem is that celestial/apogean are really hard to find/stargaze

[faint current]

Irrelevant. Both Athalia and Mehira are very useful at E.

[proper linden]

Ah ok I saw you change about fodder, kk i agre now

@final zenith the real big problem for f2p is the 160 above, becouse only legendary+ heroes can arrive at that.
Do you have to plan accurately which hero use as foodder (for example you can use shemira epic+, and when you will have 4 copy of her, make her L+, using as foods the non ascensional heroes).

[heavy yacht]

nevermind it worked

[proper linden]

Honestly I reroll untill I found daimon + rosaline and talene from event, first day I reach stage 8 without spending money, just about daimon artifact and shield works, and spam ulti with rosaline. And talene is my personal favorite celestial.

Before that I found only eiron lyca rosaline, can compete with daimon. Shemira is strong, but not so early.

[final zenith]

Should i do the same, and reroll?

[proper linden]

@final zenith look what he said. If you want going on here, you have to use wukong

And you will see what you got after that.

I rerolled a lot, but it’s not so nice do it...
So it’s up to you. But the important things is your wishlist!!!!
You have lot of heroes that are not so usefull, I think you made the wishlist to fast without thinking too much at it

If you want going on from there, start using wukong-a Thalia in front, rowan middle, shemira and nara in the opposite

[final zenith]

Ok

[proper linden]

So you will have 4heroes bonus faction, and you can push a little.

[final zenith]

So my main dps is wukong

[heavy yacht]

until 120 yes

[final zenith]

Okie

[faint current]

Until 100

[heavy yacht]

oh yeah mb thought it was 120

[faint current]

Regular Elite (One copy) is capped at lvl 100 so he won't be able to go past that unless either he obtains more copies, which is not optimal unless he gets really lucky and pulls one, or if his crystal is above lvl 100, in which case he'll be unable to be his carry since he'll be the lowest lvl hero on the team.

[heavy yacht]

You can get 2 copies of wukong easily actually

[bold meteor]

I couldve made him A by now but I chose not to bc I dont think hes good for mid to late game

[faint current]

Easily yes. Optimally without luck? No. Wukong usually comes from event chests. This early in the game you'd be better off using those for one of the other choices. You can also get him from Lab store but you should be spending Lab Tokens on other things

[heavy yacht]

You get one from sharing (free) and the other one I can't remember but I didn't get it in a summon either nor lab store

[bold meteor]

Yea ik, I chose other choices instead of him

Wanna help me Nilas I'm hard stuck xd

I'm stuck on campaign and king tower as well xd

[faint current]

Looks like Arcane Lab or a peaks of time or something. I cannot help you without a screenshot of which relics you chose, and unfortunately my advice will likely be to point out what relics you should probably not choose in the future.

[final zenith]

Athalia dies so easily, would there be a better replacement?

[bold meteor]

I'm thinking of waiting till I get my eirron to A to upgrade it bc I just need fodder for him as well as I need ONE hogan and I can get my rowan to M plus then I could upgrade him but I'm not sure and ok lemme get a ss of relics for u

These r the relics @faint current

[faint current]

@bold meteor Ok so for starters, in the future avoid picking both of these together. You should choose 1 or 2 heroes to be the damage dealers on your team, and support them as much as possible. Personally I choose agility heroes, but you could choose Int or Str instead (unfortunately STR one gives defense instead of damage but you can still make it work)

[bold meteor]

By str u mean heroes like daimon and lucious right

[faint current]

Yes

[bold meteor]

Ok I'm thinking str or int then idk tho

What do u think, also can u pick a team for me please.

[final zenith]

Still cant beat it, any ideas

[faint current]

@bold meteor So these relics are generally ones I would recommend avoiding entirely. I'll post the 2nd page in a sec

[bold meteor]

Alr tysm but can u also pick a good team for me and do I go with int or str

[faint current]

@bold meteor Ok so those relics I'd avoid. Let me see if I can find a team for you

[bold meteor]

Ok ty also can u tell me which relics to pick every time I get the choice if not its fine I know u prob have better things to do

[faint current]

If I had your heroes, for Arcane Lab, Peaks of Time, etc., content where you get relics and HP does not refill between battles, I'd use:

Daimon

Lucius
Numisu/Eironn/A merc'd +30 Rowan/Literally anything actually
Tasi
Lyca

It might not work though since your heroes are not equal level yet (lvl 240) and so Lucius might be too frail until then

[final zenith]

Somebody wit high iq help

[bold meteor]

Do u have a +30 rowan Nilas

[faint current]

I do but my friends list is full in-game :/ Try #mercenary . If you ask there for a +30 Rowan I'd be shocked if no one reached out offering theirs.

[bold meteor]

Ok ty also can u send me those pictures of what relics to not choose in dms

And can u send me that team in dms as well and do I pick str or int for that team

[faint current]

You could pick STR so that Lucius has more def, but if Lucius is surviving just fine it won't help. The main damage sources in that team are Daimon, and a little bit of Lyca. So Agi damage will help but won't be super strong there.

[heavy yacht]

Oh no mb missread

[proper linden]

Invert wukong with athalia, put of tasi and put rowan instead of here. Invert nara and shemira. Than try 20/30 times

[faint current]

Athalia's purpose at E is to interrupt and die. This is only worth it when there's an enemy casting a single ability that really needs to be interrupted at the beginning of battle, such as Mehira summoning her bats, although you won't run into that for a while.

[lilac shore]

These tree stages are annoying, there is too much healing for my daimon to break through and the trees rocks do a ton of damage

[bold meteor]

Lmao I think I'm stuck on that stage too which is embarrassing if u were to see my heroes

[lilac shore]

I've been told that I am pushing a ton for my level/heroes

[proud edge]

@faint current can I dm you one for advice? Discord is giving me the explicit photo block and won't let me post it here

[faint current]

You can try re-sizing, cropping the photo a little, or scribbling a tiny bit on the photo to make Discord stop deleting it.

[proud edge]

ToG Fallen Souls Final battle, any ideas? Saurus twins tidus ferael numisu are all dead 😭

[pulsar badger]

Beginner that may or may not have went in over my head aiming for end-game and neglecting knowledge of early game and hitting snags in chapter 6. Also, wasted some amount of upgrade mats on Mireal and potentially Gwyn before I got Eironn and that's entirely my b.
Apologies for potentially unnecessary bloat, idk if all of this is entirely necessary being new.
I got interested in Arty's "Five Pull" comp with Skriath, Eironn, Lyca, Brutus, and Rowan for context of where I aim to go.
Not sure if I'm just needing to upgrade current heroes more or if because I'm making due with Nimisu, Lucius, and Saveas while missing Rowan, Brutus, and Lyca, if it kinda throws a wrench in the gears of how the comp should work (plus missing furniture bonuses being so early on)
Lucius is just mega squish right now facing Golus on 6-12 (I'm sure his level plays into it but he gets legit one shot which seems strange to me).

[maiden marsh]

tbh this is more fit for #classic-questions
just real quick, 5 pull won't work for a long while (needs skriath 3 furniture) so you'll be wukong carry till level 100, mirael to 160, then either ainz or daimon carry past that until multistages

[pulsar badger]

Was wondering if it was fit more for questions tbh. Funny enough, first typed it up in there but copied into here.
Appreciate the quick reply and honesty in finding a replacement for what I'm currently doing.
Thanking

[maiden marsh]

best advice I can give without writing an essay is to read tree3's pinned guide in #classic-questions . it includes everything from wishlist to the aforementioned carries

[pulsar badger]

Will do, I neglect pins and might or might not have joined just to ask this.
I enjoy learning about systems like this so the more reading on why's and how's the better, so thanks again for cluing me into that

[pale kettle]

Help

[sullen lance]

Can someone help me with a lineup for this quest? I just get rocked every time because brutus just spins through my carry

[pale kettle]

Help please

[sullen lance]

Try swapping around lucius, rowan, and shemira and seeing if one setup works better

[robust storm]

I’m stuck what do I do

[woven lagoon]

stop making legendary characters, replace tidus with a tank

[nocturne furnace]

switch rowan and tasi places, replace daimon with safiya
the comp ur using already should work tho

[pale kettle]

Help please

[proud plover]

Need help for The Contorted Realm 310 mobs.

[marsh nymph]

s u ggestio ns? b een on here for a while

[sacred zephyr]

I beat this yesterday, but I did it with 5 pull (and I see you don't have the investment yet). Lyca with Ainz comp could work, but you'll need to merc an Albedo

[proud plover]

Need help with the 310 mobs in the Contorted Realm. Suggestions please?

[wicked wolf]

Umm so should I go with rowan or nemora in my lineup? Using Ainz Joker Luci and Talene as the other 4

[hollow hatch]

Rowan

[steep sun]

How should I make my team

[hollow hatch]

try checking out someone the guides in #classic-questions they have info on how to build teams in a lot more depth than an answer you'll get her

[desert heath]

Can someone explain why I can't root before the enemy arden when I have Ainz in front but when I put Shemira instead it always works even without M boots? Also, any tips on how to beat this stage are welcome

[hollow hatch]

@desert heath iirc Ainz starts a little bit backwards, is your Arden getting interrupted?

[desert heath]

Yeah he gets interrupted by the enemy roots when I have Ainz out. But when I use Shemira instead of Ainz my Arden always roots first

The problem with Shemira is, that she just doesn't do enough damage and dies to quickly. Even when I get her ult off two times it isn't enough. I feel like Ainz would be a bit tankier if I just could root the enemy first

[coral glacier]

Hey all, I am really new to the game, literally second day. Just curious what sort of line up I should make with the following heroes. I have watched a few videos which is why I have chosen what I have but not sure it is right. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Also side note: should I be burning through my gems every time I can afford a 10x summon?

[limpid wadi]

Hey folks, looking for some help with the kill two frontline first quest for this. Any ideas?

[desert heath]

Hey, I've been using Tree3's beginner guide. It has a small progression guide, worked out pretty well for me. You can just google Tree3's AFK Arena Beginner's Compendium, should be the first reddit link. You should level fodder units first, they're easier to get to L+. You can then put other heroes you want to use on your resonating crystal. And yes, you should spend your diamonds on 10x summons in the beginning to get more heroes

[maiden marsh]

It's also the first thing pinned in the #classic-questions channel

[coral glacier]

oh sweet thanks, will have a look into it!

[pale kettle]

@nocturne furnace thx bro

[robust storm]

I am stuck

[heavy yacht]

How would you guys do this

[shut glacier]

@heavy yacht remove Lyca. Talene front. Add Arden

[heavy yacht]

Talen front Instead of Rowan?

[shut glacier]

Yes, Talene front with chalice Artifacts

[robust storm]

what should I do for mine richardo

[heavy yacht]

And will arden do the job as he's only e or e+?

[shut glacier]

Rowan middle back
But I'f it does not work, try to use Nara to pull Shimera on the ground

[heavy yacht]

Have you tried swapping your tanks?

[robust storm]

yes

[shut glacier]

Yes, equip gears for Arden, he works fine....

[heavy yacht]

Oh wait I can't use arden no slots left on crystal

[shut glacier]

@robust storm try to borrow Atier Farael 3F mercenary, he can prevent Vanden to transform into bats

@robust storm or Nara front to kick Vandan down the ground.

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=30&stage=44 I cleared at same level. also other clears. ezizh and tasi need rng

[summer cedar]

highly recommend a fera against ezizh stages to slow down the cycle and give more chances to break it. some 290 clears here https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=30&stage=41

[summer cedar]

try swapping brutus and ainz

[pale kettle]

Chapter 9-36. Isabella rework is absolutely melting my teams. Any assistance?

[summer cedar]

brutus hogan saveas rowan arden/lyca/silvina perhaps. if arden, u gotta root isa (rng targeting). if silvina, she should get a couple of strikes on isa.

[proud plover]

Stuck on stage 24-2 should I change my lineup or wait until my heroes get stronger?

[summer cedar]

there's not enough cc here for joker to shine and even if there was he's placed improperly for faction adv. either flip the lineup, or try brutus lucius lyca rowan belinda.

[pale kettle]

This is rough...I swear she is making chapter 9 almost unplayable. Didn’t have this much trouble before.

[summer cedar]

yeah she's been rather painful lately. quite annoying. keep in mind saveas needs the kill before vedan ults, if not try flipping.

[pale kettle]

He keeps switching to Kaz and I can’t figure out why

[pale kettle]

He starts on Vidan but as soon as Kaz comes forward he switches. Dunno how to prevent that

[robust storm]

my team is getting obliterated

[mortal mural]

I should choose graveborn and aim for two more damion, correct?

[nocturne furnace]

yes

[slate elbow]

Abit of help here thx

[slate elbow]

^^^

[dull bay]

Yo can someone who's good at the game go in dms with me and help me form 3 Teams ? I dont have 3 solid teams yet

[maiden marsh]

just paste it here, lets see what we have to work with

[dull bay]

Cant send the ss?

"Explicit content cant be sent to the recipients"

There we go

[maiden marsh]

long term:
ascend skriath and get 3F asap for 5 pull
focus on thoran 30 for cheese
garrison albedo, buy arthur and get bedo 30 + ainz 9/9 for dim comp
max that lucretia for another team

in the meantime, I would use something like daimon for one battle, scuffed eironn comp for another, try to fit gwyn in somewhere if you can, try scuffed saurus cycle in other places maybe. you have the raw levels to brute force stuff I imagine

[dull bay]

Im bout to have Arthur so I can do the gwyn comp maybe?

[maiden marsh]

yeah arthur would make that usable at least. he'll get stolen by ainz once he's built tho, gwyn's not nearly as good as ainz generally

[dull bay]

Mk

[pale kettle]

I’m not really sure how this worked, but omg somehow it did, lol

[shut glacier]

Arthur Gwyneth is best for ArcaneLab , but outside Ainz steals Arthur from her

[maiden marsh]

ainz comp works better in lab anyways

[scenic relic]

Does anyone have team formation for the kill 3 back line enemies in mist valley?

[maiden marsh]

Here's one

[scenic relic]

Ty

and the formation position?

[maiden marsh]

1-5 as ordered in ss

[shrewd sorrel]

help needed hehe

[agile urchin]

Help

[hollow hatch]

@agile urchin try Lyca and Rosaline instead of Nara and Daimon

[agile urchin]

I just leveled up my heroes a bit and that fixed the problem

[pale kettle]

How come this man can beat this stage, but I can't.

Nevermind I got it.

[manic ravine]

Need some help for this stage

[hollow hatch]

@manic ravine try
Nara

Arthur
Ainz
Rowan
Albedo

[manic ravine]

@hollow hatch you're the champion. Thanks!

[hollow hatch]

👍

[half delta]

Any recommendations and/or tips? Newbie here 🙂

[stiff sandal]

Help please

[thorny pendant]

nara or athalia opposite mehira

[half delta]

anything for me?

[thorny pendant]

how many times have you run it?

[outer escarp]

Thoughts on a lineup for new isabella?

[half delta]

what do you mean?

[outer escarp]

So far i paired with farael and odin. Not enough damage. Like heroes to go with her. Psi reap is really good 3/3

[random sonnet]

is this the best lineup i have
should i just retry spam

[hidden crescent]

Any ideas? :/

[loud kraken]

In order: Thoran, Tasi, Belinda, Rowan, Rosaline

[amber halo]

im stuck there as well XD

[manic ravine]

@amber halo @Lun try
Nara

Arthur
Ainz
Rowan
Albedo

This worked for me

[amber halo]

ohh thanks ive been trying with almost like that but didnt work. albedo 1 arthur 2 nara 3 rowan 4 ainz 5. Ill try urs it should work.

@manic ravine im getting rekt so bad i only have albedo 2/9 ainz 8/9

[thorny pendant]

no red card for that last slot?

[manic ravine]

I think it helped that I had 3/9 and 9/9

[amber halo]

ohh wtf ofc it does

Ainz 9/9 is ez mode

[tulip cloud]

hey again, what i can do?

[amber halo]

Use brutus instead of nara for that fight or put nara middle

[amber halo]

U won or not?

Brutus front shemira back

[tulip cloud]

sec

[amber halo]

What about shemira lucius rosaline rowan fawkes?

[tulip cloud]

close but no

[amber halo]

Just retry there is so much rng in the game

[tulip cloud]

retried +-50 times

[amber halo]

Rosaline 3 fawkes 5 and yes it should win 100÷

[shrewd sorrel]

need sup help

[tulip cloud]

ty man

[amber halo]

np

[wet meadow]

I need help with this

[tulip dagger]

Is it possible to beat this?

[wet meadow]

Just FYI save some more fodder for them and get nemora to accented

[tulip dagger]

Already got two R+ copies ye

[glad heath]

Any ideas?

[faint current]

Is Nara pulling Belinda helpful here? You could consider using Ferael instead. Also, Ferael's signature item is incredibly powerful, you should bring it up to +20 ASAP

[glad heath]

I just do it because otherwise Belinda insta kills daimon, so I'm just trying to delay that with the pull and the thoran fear after he revives

[faint current]

Makes sense

[glad heath]

she does die, the problem is thane and athalia

[robust storm]

So close to 16-1 but my team keeps getting obliterated

[pale monolith]

No Rowan?

I'd go with:
Belinda

Brutus
Ferael
Ghezul
Lucius

[robust storm]

Brutus is only E and so is Fereal but I’ll try it

[pale monolith]

Brutus because of his shield, Ferael for the Fear ability and the evil spirits

[robust storm]

Didn’t work my team got slammed

[pale monolith]

Your team is a mess

[robust storm]

Yeah I get told that a lot

I rarely ever get good elite pulls

[pale monolith]

With a good wishlist?

[robust storm]

Here’s my wishlist

[pale monolith]

Safyia instead of Khasos for Maulers, Izold instead of shadow clones guy, rest is good

[robust storm]

ok

[pale monolith]

Also maybe Eironn for Wilders

[faint current]

I highly recommend checking out the 2 latest pinned guides in #classic-questions . They are up to date and the 2nd one has a wishlist on it.

[robust storm]

do you have any idea of how I could beat 15-40 with the current people I have?

Fereal is the one who’s really messing me up because he keeps ruining my Lucius ult which gets 3 of my guys decked before he does it

[pale monolith]

You got Lorsan?

[robust storm]

Lemme check

[faint current]

Beating 15-40 unlocks Stargazing which especially given your current roster, you should be avoiding. You should be focused on beating the level cap issue ASAP, you are level-capped hard due to ascension mistakes.

[pale monolith]

You should also only Stargaze for Shemira

Only stargaze for Celestials/Hypogean or it would be a waste

[marsh swan]

[faint current]

@pale monolith Begging your pardon?

[robust storm]

I’m trying to get Shemira to Mythic

[pale monolith]

It was a joke genius

[robust storm]

I just need 2 copies and a Fodder L+

I get 1 if I beat this level

[pale monolith]

You have Lorsan?

[robust storm]

no

[pale monolith]

Fawkes I guess dies from Ferael

[faint current]

It's only funny if everyone knows you know better than that.

[drowsy gazelle]

do you have nemora? if possible, slap some boots and call on her to charm ferael

[robust storm]

Yea I have Nemora Legendary

[faint current]

The point still stands. You are giving advice to someone who does not know which one is correct. You just end up confusing them.

[robust storm]

ok I’m gonna get an Arden up to at least E+

I was looking on Reddit and I saw a formation I could do

[pale monolith]

Send it

[faint current]

Arden is incredibly strong starting at lvl 141.

[pale monolith]

Till lvl 160

[robust storm]

This was what I saw

The thing is this was before the rework and now Isabella is incredibly strong

bruh I almost just won.

but Shemira killed Belinda last second

[pale monolith]

They nerfed Isabella stages

[tulip cloud]

bruh

[pale monolith]

Fawkes survives to get his ult?

[tulip cloud]

no one is ulting

like literally

[pale monolith]

Put Call on Rowan only

[pale monolith]

Looks good

[tulip cloud]

but no one survives and deals dmg

[brittle prism]

23-12 now

Who should I ascend in GB and Wilders?

Thanks

[rigid birch]

gb Ferael and SIlas, wilder Lyca, Tasi, Saurus in that order

[low apex]

Grezhul or izold next?

[burnt kestrel]

Does anyone have a ainz I can garrison? Please add me! ID: 125010162

[faint current]

#mercenary

[burnt kestrel]

Sorry thanks

[faint current]

Anytime

[unkempt geode]

any ideas? 😩

[ebon hazel]

Lucius ult is stopping my Daimon hard

NVM lol

[gilded shard]

I’ve been trying this one for a while. Not sure which comp would be a good idea

I also have L twins/brutus/tasi

I keep getting bursted down by shemira and ferael just stops most of what I try, guessing the lack of a decent cc comp like eiron doesn't help me

[inland egret]

collect thoran and ez reach 500+ floors

[shrewd sorrel]

trying for help 4th time? stuck on the level for 6days

[ebon hazel]

Drop gwyn for lyca

[pale kettle]

Been stuck for a while and would appreciate some help. I will send hero pool in a second.

[drowsy locust]

Is there any way to pass that stage under 15 sec?

[pale kettle]

pretty sure that's the exact comp i used to get it
just took an assload of retries

Whats a good lineup for this one?

Nvm found out and cleared

[faint current]

https://www.afkarena.net/bountiful-trials

[torn pumice]

Too soon to ask for help?
New to the game so not sure who to focus on

[sinful apex]

hi everyone, any help for 15-40? i cant seem to find any up to date advice online.. i tried a lot of different lineups

[drowsy locust]

better read that
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZLSDhbeAwX8_RU9nJL8RG3oWA0D10QEjuSWpMxx8zg/edit?usp=sharing

[torn pumice]

great thanks

[minor cairn]

help?

[stuck trellis]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=54

[minor cairn]

ill try the stuff there thanks

[safe falcon]

Any tips? cant do shit

[ebon hazel]

Try
Daimon
Rowan
Gwyn
Brutus
Fareal

[robust storm]

I’ve been stuck on this shit for a while now

Lucius takes way to long to ult which gets at least 3 of my guys killed before he does it

[ebon hazel]

Lyca
Luc
Belinda
Tidus
Grez?

[robust storm]

I’ll try it

[ebon hazel]

Or drop belinda for Shemira

[robust storm]

Tried both lineups and they got decimated

The first one at least killed two of them before they all died

Shemira is what’s really making it hard

[ebon hazel]

Drop luc for brutus? Or Grez for brutus?

[past urchin]

Ferael is much bigger of a problem.

[robust storm]

Fereal and Shemira combined is obliterating my team

[past urchin]

Charm him with your Nemora.
Put her in the midfle and retry until she charms him.
He will destroy his own team.

[robust storm]

Nemora keeps getting so close to her ult and Lucius is using his shield but they some how manage to INSTAKILL my entire team

[cerulean cedar]

your hero investment is wack tbh
Try using Eironn to grab whoever's causing trouble

[quaint bone]

Any ideas?

[past urchin]

Daimon
Tasi
Lyca
Rowan
Ferael
I think thats how I beat it.
Apparently this game wont let me check... @quaint bone

[quaint bone]

I'll try, thanks

[past urchin]

I corrected it.
Swapped Ferael and Daimon.
Im pretty sure I wanted Tasi to take the potion.

[quaint bone]

Actually just got really close with that corrected comp, so hopefully I'll get it soon, thanks a lot

[cerulean cedar]

tasi just decides to not banish anyone

[bright sigil]

Any tips?

[bright sigil]

anyone?

[pearl zinc]

Shemira and ainz are both carries - add more support for ainz and take shem out. Maybe Rosa or tasi or lyca

[bright sigil]

i only had shem in to showcase all heroes available, rosa tasi and lyca has already been used

[maiden marsh]

maybe that arthur poking his head out there

[pearl zinc]

Arthur or Thoran both good there

[bright sigil]

my original line up for that was Arthur - Albedo - Ainz - Rowan - Ezio

but it didnt go, tried 100 times at least

[pearl zinc]

Isa is tough now. Could try Windbinder pippa w/ rowan and RNG the tasi ult

try to toss more heroes in front of arthur

[bright sigil]

yes, and i only have +10 on arthur and ainzbedo

what lineup would that be? the full team

[pearl zinc]

Could also try Lorsan Rowan Nara/Athalia Thoran Ezizh. Thoran isn't +30, but it should work on that group

will need ot RNG the Kelthur dodge

or Rowan Thoran Lorsan Ezizh Pippa

either should work @bright sigil

[bright sigil]

ill try, give me a few min

[past urchin]

Is you Daimon eating all the banishes or Lyca high enough ATK already?

[ebon hazel]

Either Lyca or Tasi gets banished

[languid pier]

What do I do here my amigos?

[bright sigil]

@pearl zinc still no luck with neither of the teams

[pearl zinc]

Is thoran ulting?

[bright sigil]

yes but only once

[pearl zinc]

Does he have call on?

[bright sigil]

nope i can try with call

hes getting his second ult when using athalia but he dies the moment he ults @pearl zinc

[pearl zinc]

he is ulting though? is everyone clustering around him?

[bright sigil]

not isa, only when i use nara

[pearl zinc]

should be able to clear that stage with 1 ult. Pippa will throw him at her, or nara will pull her to him depending on which you're using

make sure noone else has call on the team

[bright sigil]

ezizh does lol to sec

[past urchin]

I did it with
Ferael
Lyca
Mehira(E)
Rowan
Daimon
@ebon hazel

[ebon hazel]

Fareal only SI0 though

And no Mehria

Are you able to see non-boss stages

[past urchin]

Ugh..thats a problem.
Daimon
Tasi
Lyca
Rowan
Ferael
Maybe.
Not sure how geared your Tasi is but worth a try.

[ebon hazel]

Max on faction except boots are off

[past urchin]

Try then.
Might work.

[ebon hazel]

What arti?

[bright sigil]

still no luck @pearl zinc

[ebon hazel]

Just standard artist?

[past urchin]

Yup.

[ebon hazel]

Wait but isn't Daimon out of range of Rowan there?

[past urchin]

On purpose, yes.
I was after a fast Tasi ult.
Daimon potion isnt always the best imo.

[ebon hazel]

Can't believe I'm staying this, but ulmus is sweeping my team still.

[winter ember]

In a bit of a dilemma here. Should I ascend Belinda, Hogan, or the woman on the horse? The three of them are Elite+, but I don't know which one I should keep. Any reccomendations?

[past urchin]

Hes a pain.
Even more with Nemora...
First encounter at 29-8 @ebon hazel

You may try giving Ferael an elite weapon too.
@ebon hazel
It helps sometimes.
Might get lucky and interrupt banish.

[ebon hazel]

Elite weapon?

[past urchin]

Yup.
Faster fear.
Sometimrs comes in play.

[ebon hazel]

What's an elite weapon?

[past urchin]

A purple one.

[ebon hazel]

OH

How does that make fear faster?

[past urchin]

Changes his skill rotation.
With L or better weapon and Lyca he will try to cast accursed arrow and then fear.
That takes forever to go off.
With a purple one he will autoattack and fear.
Much faster.

[faint current]

I thought that was only with his 9f causing accursed arrow to be his first attack guaranteed

[maiden marsh]

cursed arrow is first even without 9F if his weapon is mythic

[faint current]

TIL

So what’s the interaction with his 9f?

[past urchin]

Yup.
Legendary without Lyca.
Purple with Lyca.

[ebon hazel]

So does Lyca have gear prio then?

[past urchin]

Shes up front in your case so yeah.
But its just the weapon for Fera.
The rest doesnt matter

[faint current]

Just confirmed that even without 9f you’re right, but there was a big to-do about unequipping Fera’s 9th piece of mythic furn.

Not sure what it was about then

Oh wait....Bc then it’ll happen no matter what

Don’t mind me

[ebon hazel]

If I don't have a purple weapon then what do I do?

[maiden marsh]

no weapon

[past urchin]

Oh yeah I heard about disabling his 9F on purpose.
Cause with 9 he wont auto ever.

[faint current]

You just need his haste low enough that he fires regular arrow then fear instead of cursed arrow then fear Bc cursed arrow is slower. Agility weapons give hidden haste.

[past urchin]

^^
Pretty much.
And he has a very low haste breakpoint apparrently.
Simafuhan had the whole math for it the other day.
But its too comlicated for my simple brain.

[frosty arrow]

I know for 100-160 your team is basically your fodder but is there anything in here I should place in the crystal and use over the fodder?

[faint current]

Tasi, Rowan, Brutus. Lyca, Warek, Lucius, Thoran imo, and potentially wukong.

Lucius only for Arcane Lab/Vow etc, Warek only for 5v1 bosses. They might not do much in campaign

[ebon hazel]

But how does that help him?

[frosty arrow]

I have Ros and Nara too that wouldn’t fit. So a regular 5 would be mireal tasi Rowan Brutus and someone like Damian?

[faint current]

It makes his first fear sooner.

[maiden marsh]

the faster AoE fear comes out, the more control you have of the battle

[ebon hazel]

It feels like it's doing worse once I removed it.

[faint current]

Not sure. This early in the game heroes don’t have most of their abilities unlocked. You’re better off trying out yourself and adding/removing heroes from crystal yourself and seeing what works.

[past urchin]

Might be that 1s Daimon needs to get bloodshield off, Tasi banish or whatver.

[faint current]

Yes sometimes it’s better with the weapon on. It depends on the fight.

[frosty arrow]

Awesome, thanks for all your help. Really appreciate it

[faint current]

Rowan isn’t in range to help Daimon

[past urchin]

Yeah its not some ultimate tactics.
I mostly usrd it to outfear enemy Feraels.

[faint current]

Anytime

[ebon hazel]

Revo said that was the point, so Tasi ults fast

[faint current]

Sometimes it is.

Sometimes having Rowan feed energy to Daimon is better. Depends on the stage.

[ebon hazel]

Well you see the stage

[past urchin]

I did, yes.
Actually Nerds showed me that.
Keeping Daimon out of the cart range.
And I beat entire ch 29 that way with quick Tasi ults and Eironn freezes.

[ebon hazel]

So Eiron might help?

[faint current]

What I mean is, many players rely on re-trying a couple of times to see how the fight plays out, then swapping and re-trying 2-5 times to see how THAT is different to see what’s better.

Brb

[ebon hazel]

Im on my 80thth something attempt

[past urchin]

I dont think he will in this stage specifically.
He wont pull from the top cause Ulmus roots.
From the middle you would pull 2 buldozer tanks and a Tasi who will blink out anyway right in the middle of your formation.
And bottom pull is just pointless imo.

Tbh I have no idea why its giving you so much trouble @ebon hazel :/

I dont have a SS for 54, but look how much lvl advantage you have over me.

[languid pier]

helpmi 🙂

tried rowan, ezio, fera instead of tasi no luck

[ebon hazel]

Because my Mehira is still grey, and only SI4 Fareal

And no Mehira mercs

[brave oriole]

@languid pier need rowan

[past urchin]

Its just slightly weaker debuff.
I honestly dont think it would have that much impact.
Like...if you didnt have a +30 Rowan, sure.
But I think this Fera sig is meaningless.

[languid pier]

I have tried him on talene tasi and albedo spot instead of tasi, wasnt succesful

[brave oriole]

No, rowan have to be front. Try
Lyca
Rowan
Ainz
Arthur
Albedo

It should work if lyca survives long enough

[stuck trellis]

do u have joker?

[languid pier]

Yes, @brave oriole think I'll merc lyca mine is crap

[stuck trellis]

ok then run something like this

albedo
fera
ainz
arthur
joker

experiment with swapipng fera and joker, or with swappign fera and ainz

[languid pier]

sec ty

[autumn girder]

Hi. As a new player (started a couple of hours ago) I could use some line-up advice. Tier lists seem to be all over the place. With the following characters, what should I focus on for a well-rounded team? I was thinking on going 4x lightbearers and Talene, but I would love to hear suggestions so I know what to commit on leveling more

[grand perch]

Hello @autumn girder,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[maiden marsh]

4 LB + talene is a pretty stellar way to bone yourself as hard as possible.
check out tree3's pinned guide over in #classic-questions

[autumn girder]

Alright. Thanks!

[hidden condor]

Any advice? Just waiting on purple dust to get everyone past 180

[maiden marsh]

rowan out for lyca, thoran out for tasi in general
E rowan isn't doing you much good

[brave oriole]

@hidden condor if you reset Brutus to 180,wont you have enough for daimon 221+?

Like 30k dust it is, for 221

[hidden condor]

Would his 221 be better than having my Brutus above 180?

[maiden marsh]

yes

[brave oriole]

220, would be max, my bad, but Brutus lvl 160 or more, not a diff

Try Lucius instead, he should tank nice with Brutus, but he need 200,not Brutus

[hidden condor]

So run both Lucius and Brutus? Or just reset Brutus and get Lucius to 200?

[brave oriole]

You need a Frontline, Brutus and Lucius are good, just swap positions by the stage. Rowan is okay even elite, put some nice gear in him. And daimon try to get good gear, factional, and with dura's call artifact, and you will be good. Last hero by situation, talene nara fawkes, lyca, etc

Usually, when saveas, put Brutus there to tank. When shemira ferael, need fawkes Backline to coffin

[fossil acorn]

Suggestions?

[amber halo]

Why the fk i cant win. This brutus always 1v9 me

[summer cobalt]

I'm on chapter 24, anyone I should switch out?

[short zephyr]

i wouldn use izold since he's not invested , switch out izold for lyca and lucius for a brutus could work

[vapid field]

Halp?
https://gyazo.com/0adf4033db8c321e8736a44e40a62526

[summer cobalt]

what do you mean he's not invested lol

izold is my main tank

[short zephyr]

he glimmers at 20 si / 3 furniture , shines at 30si /3 furniture and later on needs 30si/9 furniture for survivability

just give it a try , it doesn't cost anything , maybe it'll help you

[summer cobalt]

also

i've only ever gotten 1 brutus, my entire time lol

[short zephyr]

but thats why brutus is one of the most cost-efficient tanks , you're getting 7 seconds of invulnerable with a physical dmg buff , and at 221 it goes form 7 > 8 seconds , so it doesnt matter which ascencion-tier he's at

[summer cobalt]

he's elite atm, only 1 copy since i've been playing lol

[maiden marsh]

Elite is fine as crown is saying

[quaint bone]

@past urchin do you happen to remember what you used here?

[nimble fossil]

I’ve been stuck for what feels like a week. I tried some formations from people outside the server, but they proved ineffective. Can I please get some help?

[quaint bone]

@nimble fossil Beat it today with Daimon
Tasi
Lyca
Rowan
Ferael

[random garnet]

Any ideas? :(

Nvm... That lineup worked after the 50th try 🤦‍♂️

[quaint bone]

@maiden marsh Any chance you saved your clear on 29-59?

[worn pilot]

Can I please get help with this? Stuck

[short zephyr]

getting lyca to +20si would be such a huge spike for your roster, does switching skreg with brutus stall longer?

[worn pilot]

Nope to Brutus

Closest I can get... 1/10th of Brutus's healthbar

[full patio]

Is there a Chapter Guide anyone can use?

[short zephyr]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[full patio]

Thank you @short zephyr ! I Appreciate it Very much so.

[nimble fossil]

I have more than enough levels to clear this chapter, but goddamn, I’m getting stuck at almost every stage. Can I get some help?

[short zephyr]

Yea it's an incredible community effort , both from the creators and screenshot-uploaders

[quaint bone]

@nimble fossil Try the link Crown posted just above, and find a team you can copy, with your levels you should breeze through pretty quickly.

[full patio]

Yeah, going to need to apply to some friends for short term garrisons, not enough on my list for 4 teams

[quaint bone]

@maiden marsh I'm going to have to merc a brutus to get above power cap I think, I'll try it if I manage to merc one overnight, thanks for your help.

[worn pilot]

@short zephyr managed to.clear it, Joker had 1 hp left (how it looked) vs Brutus

[onyx ridge]

Any help? After first ult Ainz always gets frozen by tasi and when he comes out he just dies

[slate elbow]

Can I get some help I have a free swap if I need a certain hero for this stage

[amber halo]

Lyca instead of talene. Is albedo +30?

[onyx ridge]

Ah alr won using lyca instead of Talene :) albedo +10

[slate elbow]

Help help unless it’s not possible until I get more lvs

[woven lagoon]

Swap arden and Rosa

[amber halo]

Most campaign fights you are not using talene but either lyca or ferael in the place. Ferael seems better. And u need albedo +30 asap

How do u keep cool rng forever? I tend to get frustrated

daimon is rng nolife comp tbh

[empty ibex]

I can't find a way around this. I simply can't ignore anyone so I can focus on just one entry. Numisu healing is basically a full health, Saveas one shots Nara and Oden so I can't switch their positions, Khasos ult is an instant team wipe and Niru simply ramps from the dead bodies. Any suggestions? Don't worry about Daimon frontline, i was just trying that out and seeing if it worked out lol

[amber halo]

why dont u pull sav with nara?

tho ur better off using some of ur l+ heroes instead of elites

[empty ibex]

Saveas one shots Nara terribly

[amber halo]

thats fine its just so u can easier kill him but still i wont use ur elite heroes. only exception would be brutus and he can stall saveas for a bit

[lapis shard]

Hey Guys, Chap 25 Shemira still good or better switch with Belinda? (Comp : Rowan, Brutus, Queen, Tasi)

[amber halo]

belinda but u should focus getting a better carry since they fall off

[lapis shard]

Yeah got Eiron Ascended, i'm waiting to get Mythic T1/T2 and SI 30 for him (and build the team around him)

[amber halo]

oh nice i dont even have him ascended yet

[orchid kestrel]

When do I start getting t2 stones

[signal pond]

can someone help me?

[desert heath]

[17-20] any ideas? I've been stuck here for a while now. I tried many different comps, but everything gets destroyed either by silvina or vedan. Also not having much luck with my pulls

[pale monolith]

Ainz

Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Nara

[desert heath]

Definitely working better then everything I've tried so far, was almost able to get off Ainz second ult. But Vedan is still wrecking me. If I'd just survive long enough to get Ainz to stun. But I'll play around a bit with this comp, thanks!

[dull trellis]

Any ideas?

[faint current]

Have you tried Ferael instead of Shemira, as well as repositioning Daimon backline?

[shell ocean]

Im really stuck here. Any ideas?

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Saveas - Front row;
Arden, Shemira, Rosaline - Back row;

[desert heath]

Switched Nara for Daimon because I noticed I was just lacking a little bit more damage and it worked! Thanks!

[faint current]

Have you tried:

Arden

Hogan
Mirael
Saveas
Rosa

?

[jagged pike]

The statistics were the farthest i got in the battle but tasi killed my ainz before he could ult again

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions for 35-18?

[nocturne furnace]

rowan, brutus(talene might work too)
daimon, mehira, fareal

[pale kettle]

That Solise is just deleting everyone

[nocturne furnace]

maybe ezizh over fareal then put daimon bottom, im not on ch35 so i may be stupid

[pale kettle]

Kk

[pale kettle]

Aye that’s the trick right there!

You may not be Ch 35 but you have the knowledge to be here

@nocturne furnace

[nocturne furnace]

thx lmao

[pale kettle]

I keep getting smashed no matter what I use. Any ideas?

[quaint bone]

What did you use for 29-60? @maiden marsh sorry to keep pinging you,I'm done pushing for a while once I hit 30 lol

[maiden marsh]

no problem at all

[quaint bone]

Thanks,I imagine if this is possible I'm going to need a lot of retries lol

[frail lodge]

any tips laneup or who to merc ? thx b4

[maiden marsh]

yes

[quaint bone]

@glass kelp try switching hogan and mireal?

[glass kelp]

thx

[ripe flax]

Help please ^^

[quaint bone]

@maiden marsh what artifact should tasi have?

[maiden marsh]

tasi always has call

[quaint bone]

So daimon,rowan and tasi all with call?

[maiden marsh]

that's what I did

[winter mortar]

Was thinking of building rowan my next accended is probably gonna be saurus but idk who to get after

[glass kelp]

who should i get rid of on my top row so that i can add in Atandra?

[woven lagoon]

Ogi

[glass kelp]

fr?

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions

[glass kelp]

but how does that answer my question?

[summer cedar]

if u read it, you would know the answer is wu kong. clearly, you haven't read it

[glass kelp]

did you even look at my characters i dont even have a wu kong

[faint current]

I recommend that you read the pins in #classic-questions and you will see how to get a wukong.

[gloomy shard]

Then get one :+1:

[glass kelp]

no i saw but i dont want to use facebook to get a character

[gloomy shard]

You don't have to get Facebook tho

[tepid holly]

Ainz comp is out

[glass kelp]

wwhats the other way?

[gloomy shard]

Click on the "share", it works even if you're not logged with fb

[drowsy gazelle]

1 thoran/brutus 2 lyca 3 daimon 4 eironn 5 ferael. actually, dude, you can just use eironn comp man, you have it right there

[tepid holly]

Farel is also out

[drowsy gazelle]

then tasi

[tepid holly]

Alright I’ll try

[dark roost]

Alright so I don't often ask for help here, but I don't see any solutions for this stage.

Rowan (T2 matching weapon, T2 boots) dies before ult no matter where I place him.
Frontline dies extremely fast as well, except if I use Brutus but he can't protect Rowan enough.
If I frontline Albedo, she dies as well, before immunity from 3/9 triggers.
The only position for Joker to proc an all out seems to be the top back which seems no ideal, but maybe that's the solution?
Fera is near useless. Not even sure he can shoot more than once.

On the few tries where Ainz was able to Ult after 15s (have him 9/9) this wasn't enough to kill anyone. I need a proc before and after the 50% HP (like in most stages at this deficit).

Can't use a merc also, they are already used.

Any idea would be welcomed. Thanks!

[past urchin]

@dark roost

[dark roost]

I don't have +20 Daimon yet. Tomorrow if I can buy at least gold emblems once in store.

That was my plan B tbh, but I'd really like to clear ch29 before MV ends, so I can get a HCP from that. Would be tremendous in my situation to get one last Rosa copy :p

[bold meteor]

Help plz...

I got daimon +20 and I can get him to +30 if I want

[past urchin]

Exactly why I tryharded and pushed at power cap.
Farming gear now in 30 and I dont feel like pushing at all @dark roost :)

[dark roost]

@past urchin I didn't start hard pushing (ykwim) until very recently. But yeah, hopefully Daimon is the solution tomorrow. Have Tasi and Joker linked also which is far from ideal but that was the best solution during AE.

[past urchin]

You will be fine.
At least thats how I can help.
I dont know how to utilize the dims tbh.
Got everything from Ainzbedo onwards and believe me or not I havent used them once.

Daimoned my way to 30 and the few stages I couldnt get I just cheesed with Thoran

[dark roost]

I trust you. I think I'm gonna rely on Daimon tomorrow. Thoran will be my next GB probably. One copy away only, which is fine for HCP imo.

[past urchin]

Goodie.

[vagrant ibex]

Any idea , cant do thoran cheese because of rowan immunity

[nocturne furnace]

im not sure what your hero pool is but i used
talene, thoran
fareal, rowan, daimon

[gilded shard]

Yea dims are cool and all but like, they also need a decent chunk of effort (gear is a pain)

[vagrant ibex]

Daimon as damage dealer?

[nocturne furnace]

yes

[summer cedar]

@vagrant ibex

[vagrant ibex]

I have only legend+ talene

[summer cedar]

daimon is one of the best carries in the game. why not?

[vagrant ibex]

My daimon is only 20 si

[nocturne furnace]

i would probaly go for bob's suggestion then

20si is fine

[dark roost]

@gilded shard not sure gear is my issue. Sure it's non matching but that shouldn't be the main issue here. Lacking Arthur is more of a problem.

[maiden marsh]

20 is fine

[vagrant ibex]

Okie i'll try thanks

[bold meteor]

Any help?

[gilded shard]

Yea, I was just thinking that, though ainz looooves every little bit of damage iirc

[gilded shard]

Rowan is generally able to tank nara a bit better, I'd imagine belinda just melts into nothing

[south grail]

Send a pic of all your hero’s and stage you’re on

[molten jasper]

new to the game, any suggestions on who i should prioritize and stuff

level 6-37

[south grail]

Look at pins in #classic-questions for starting game but for a lineup I would use Lucius,Shemira,wukong,Tasi and lyca

[molten jasper]

ok thanks ! is it worth it to spend my lab coins on wukong btw?

[oblique berry]

I really need help with this stage can anyone help?

[tulip cloud]

what i can do with it?

[mint nimbus]

Who should I pick for the spring glee thing

[cerulean cedar]

try to get a daimon, and grab that mirael

[pale kettle]

Would appreciate any help :)

[cerulean cedar]

try to pull isa with eironn

[pale kettle]

Tried. My whole team just dies too fast. What formation should I try?

[south grail]

Replace estrilda with saurus. Replace mirael with Rosa

[tulip cloud]

fawkes close mirael

[cerulean cedar]

oh then maybe take fawkes out for Safiya?

[pale kettle]

@south grail It is closer, but I guess I'll have to wait a bit for extra resources, or I will have to level my heroes different

[cerulean cedar]

The problem with mages is that they're very ult-dependent
@tulip cloud might just have to stall for Daimon ascension.

[tulip cloud]

okie, ty anyway

[past urchin]

Rosa
Wukong
Mirael
Lucius
Rowan

@pale kettle
And give it a few retries.
Call on Rowan
Grace on Mirael
Eye on Rosa
Drape on Lucius (or chalice if you have it)

[pale kettle]

Thanks. It is getting pretty close. Rose is a trial hero so I can't equip an artifact sadly. Wukong dies instantly, should I replace him?

[past urchin]

Yup.
Hes doing nothing as we can see.
Not sure what to replace him.with though.

[pale kettle]

I guess anything would be better. Doens't Estrilda boost attack damage or something?

[past urchin]

If she lives long enough.
You can try.
You'll also get a 5hero faction bonus that way which is actually quite big this early on.

Whom does Silvina jump btw?
@pale kettle
Rowan?

[pale kettle]

Yes

[past urchin]

Does he survive to ult or instadead?

[pale kettle]

50/50

Actually he dies like 90% of the time

[past urchin]

Hmm.
Then try like this.
Silvina bait
Lucius
Mirael
Rosa
Rowan

Silvina bait being an INT hero with defence lower than Rosa , Mirael and Rowan.

[pale kettle]

I used belinda instead of shemira because I can't reset any of the other heroes and she is only elite. Belinda gets 1 shotted by Silvina and after that lucian dies from her too

[past urchin]

Ok.
Then abandon that idea.
Try with Estrilda and pray for rng until you can get some lvls.
All you can do.

[pale kettle]

Alright. Thanks for the help :)

[glass kelp]

who should be in my linup?

[cerulean cedar]

whatever works works

[exotic ore]

this early anything works. Id say wu kong can carry you up to lvl 100

[glass kelp]

yeah but i wanna make the right choice

[cerulean cedar]

no such thing as the right choice that early

[maiden marsh]

The right choice is overleveled wukong

[glass kelp]

yeah my characters all lvl 55 for my mains and im up against 61's and im beating them

[maiden marsh]

Wukong to 80, everyone else to 40

[split oar]

help

@pale kettle eironn saurus rowan lyca + lucius/pippa/arden. Make eironn saurus and rowan 120 the rest 101 (higher if u have enough exp) play with that comp until it works. That similar to what i use and im at ch20. Been playing eironn saurus rowan since begining

[grim bolt]

Any tips?

[split oar]

@grim bolt maybe some faction synergy will do it...

[grim bolt]

@split oar I've tried it with Rosaline replacing daimon for the fac bonus but no luck

[split oar]

hmm

ainz
daimon/brutus
rosa
rowan
lucius

or switch rowan lucius spots

i assume ur daimon wont insta die and sometimws try smth else than ainz

[maiden marsh]

abuse rickety cart, reset ainz, level daimon to 240
get him +20 asap
for now, try tasi, brutus, daimon, rowan, lyca

[opaque juniper]

Any tips on a good team I can make out of the characters I have? (Daimon is reinforcement)

[nocturne furnace]

i would prolly go with
wukong, lucius
tasi, rowan, lyca
but ur super early game so i doesnt really matter atm

[visual spire]

ideas?

[pale kettle]

I'm preparing for Peggy's release and I'm imagining a team ... I've been playing for about a month and I'd like to use this

[pale monolith]

Belinda and Lucius are trash late game

[pale kettle]

Oh

who could I use their place?

[maiden marsh]

hard to theorize teams for peggy when we don't know how effective she is in practice yet

[pale kettle]

you are right

[pale monolith]

^^Facts
+There are not many good LB teams late-game

[pale kettle]

this thing does not reassure me

[maiden marsh]

did you just turn green

[pale monolith]

Yee finally got that green name

[maiden marsh]

nice

[pale monolith]

Does Shemira survive front row?

But I'd be better to put her back row anyway because of Safyia's Force Field. I'd go with:
Rowan, Tasi/Lyca - Front row;
Shemira, Safyia, Ferael - Back row;
Make sure to put Blade on Shemira and if Rowan survives Call on him to ult quicker

[visual spire]

thanks!

[pale monolith]

👍

[visual spire]

oh wow rowan died quickly

[pale monolith]

As expected, he isn't really a tank untill you get some good boots & weapon and +30 SI

[visual spire]

well i'll just wait til i upgrade my team a little

[sour burrow]

Who should I ascend first?

[summer cedar]

daimon, then fera. also, #classic-questions

[frail lodge]

hello sorry to ask, any tips for laneup or merc?

[summer cedar]

• don't be sorry
• that's literally the lineup I would use, barring rng. perhaps fera not being 20 is hurting tho.
• what are your artifacts?

[maiden marsh]

Never apologize for asking, it's why we're here

[frail lodge]

Well i am glad to be replied then thx b4

Ohh so better go for fera si+20 ?

Okay tru7h thanks will note it

[summer cedar]

daimon gets call. the person who recommended drape is theoretically correct but something went wrong in the translation and it doesn't work as intended.

[frail lodge]

oh yeah forgot to mention i already use call previously and rowan using the grace b4..
so using double call is good? i dont know if its stacks

yea i am trying to use the artifact guide recommend from some top website in google result..

[summer cedar]

double call is fine. diminishing returns but 2 works great anyway.
better to ask in #classic-questions as guides become outdated very quick.

[maiden marsh]

googling guides for afk is mega sketch lol, best to check the pins in #classic-questions or even just ask if anyone has an up to date/accurate guide

[grand void]

Need help with 29-48. Most of ch29 pretty easy. Stuck here for 5 levels now. Tried a lot of different comps. Any advice?

[maiden marsh]

tasi rowan daimon ferael lyca. now sweep the rest of the chapter and the next

[frail lodge]

ohh i see that's great to know will try it..

yea well this is my alt.. my main acc is stuck at ch 24 if i am not wrong coz using lucius & shemira following old guide haha

i will edit this info after 10 try
passed it with some RNG haha thx

===
yeah sadly.. the writer dont update their guide.. yeah discord is the one i follow now or arty and the rest for guide now haha

[twin socket]

Almost done with chap15 please help ( i made things legendary before i knew not to unless i could take them L+

[muted flare]

Is there any heros that is with using that I have

[glass kelp]

someone told me to do this and i did and now its not working and honestly idk how to keep going

[muted flare]

Dont

[glass kelp]

yeah but i asked and no one else gave me help so i took their advice

[muted flare]

Well it works but just level other too

[summer cedar]

read. the. pins. in. #classic-questions

[glass kelp]

i keep failing and i cant seem to lvl up my characters enough

should i try leveling them one by one

[glass kelp]

stop telling me that ive done that and its not helping me

[grand void]

@maiden marsh jeeeze man that comp you recommended is insane. BREEZED through the rest of ch29

[maiden marsh]

[river notch]

Link ainz to shemira and swap Damion and brutus

[rigid flax]

Why does my opponent seems to always ultimate with his ainz first?

Both ainz are si30 and 9f, I'm higher level and have rowan at si30 9f as well

[twin socket]

His ainz is just cool like that

[thorny pendant]

What's your artifact?

[slender scroll]

How can I beat this stage?

[agile urchin]

Everything just gets melted

[rigid flax]

Here

[simple sierra]

Who should I use in my line up

[slender scroll]

@simple sierra da faq do you have so many heros lvled?

You only need to lvl 5

[simple sierra]

I don’t know

I need help

@slender scroll who should I be leveling out of all my characters in a team

[simple sierra]

Thanks

[lunar garden]

What change could you make to these formations?

[mighty sage]

Any ideas? I make it close to the end and then isabellas ult 1 shots most of em or smthn

[empty ibex]

Thoran doesn't get to curse anyone no matter where he's placed, Daimon survives but he simply doesn't have enough damage to carry. Tried changing Talene for Brutus, Fawkes for Oden and Ferael and still, no attempt is close enough. Any ideas? Hogan usually goes down but the other 4 enemy heroes melt the rest immediately after

[short zephyr]

hello , you could use more supports for your team , and your rowan positioning is a bit weird , he prefers central-backline or frontline , unless you want to potion someone specifically , but I dont think talene/saveas benefit that much from rowan.

Try putting in Lyca instead of daimon and position saveas where daimon originally is , so he can priorize killing isabelle faster

[short zephyr]

hello , try to change thoran > brutus and fawkes > arden , and position rowan in middle-backline , does this work?

[empty ibex]

Arden gets one shot by Silvina immediately sadly

[short zephyr]

hello, you could try putting lyca instead of fawkes and try to rng-dodge the silvina with your rowan

[empty ibex]

Hogan died and everyone else survived for longer, yet everyone dies eventually anyways and the only enemy hero that goes down at the end is Hogan

[short zephyr]

Could also be a power-level issue , does changing up your formation do anything for you? I think general rule most of the time is to always position daimon behind brutus

[empty ibex]

Thoran is my main meat shield for Daimon, usually switching Thoran and Brutus positions ends in Daimon dying early

[short zephyr]

ooh apologies I don't have any experience with Thoran , does he really hold out longer than Brutus? Brutus can survive for 7 seconds at 141

[empty ibex]

Thoran revives giving Daimon enough time to ult + Thoran's stun, allowing Daimon to survive for longer. 7 seconds is good, but my Brutus simply drops dead immediately after leaving Daimon alone

[mighty sage]

hey i tried that but same thing happens, saveas wont target issabella for some reason

[short zephyr]

Could be a power level issue , you'll beat it eventually

[mighty sage]

oh i tried ainz instead he worked lol

[exotic crater]

since you're level capped, if you have a lot of exp stored you can put a few levels into rowan; it's not ideal but you will eventually put levels in anyways
also check your artifacts, call should be on rowan since he should be able to tank silvina for a while, then i think grace on talene, drape on daimon / tank, eye on subdps
if you do put in lyca, try to position for her and daimon to hit same targets for faster clear if possible - e.g. rowan frontline and lyca middle back

[high marlin]

Kinda stuck atm, is there anything unit wise I can fix? Or should I focus mainly on upgrading gear?

[thorny pendant]

Is your Ainz linked to rowan or safiya?

[empty ibex]

Nothing happens, the results are pretty much the same every time. The closest I've gotten is taking out Hogan and Estrilda and the rest of enemy heroes take everyone out immediately

[ashen dragon]

Who do I have to level to beat 15-40?

[violet hound]

You should be power leveling safiya she should always be at least 20 - 40 levels ahead and many as the game will allow you to be ahead

Need help with my wrizz setup and soren what is my best team and who should I merc (if anyone)

[thorn coral]

Any tips on how to beat this?

[pale kettle]

Anybody able to help me with "the unhinged" guild boss?

I know I can create a better composition.

[short zephyr]

u can try brutus where athalia is going to jump, so central-backline , but that stage is just plain annoying

[pale kettle]

@short zephyr niceimprovement. Ty.

[short zephyr]

Glad it helped , you could always copy what the players in the legend-tier are using , and dont forget to switch gears/artifacts , they really do make a big impact on your final score

[pale kettle]

They have Mortas and someone else I am missing. It's tough to replicate. I just do with what I got.

[floral cipher]

Any ideas I been stuck for so long:(

[weary trench]

I retract my question. Try again was the answer for some reason

[pale kettle]

Eironn top back, brutus in front of athalia, lucius in front of lucius, tasi back mid, and shemira bottom???@floral cipher I dont know shit but give that a try

[floral cipher]

Hmm no luck but thanks:)

[daring prawn]

Hello guys any can help end 23?

[hollow palm]

Where is your Rowan?

[past urchin]

Do you have a Rowan ?
@floral cipher
Unless Kren was asking the same person lol.

[slate elbow]

Help help thx

[languid pier]

daimon

brutus
rowan
wuk
tasi

[slate elbow]

If needed I can use maid Arden and stuff

[languid pier]

[slate elbow]

Btw wukong is there for faction boost and for his slow pole he can’t take 1 hit

[high marlin]

Safiya, but I already beat it mb

[slate elbow]

I doubt you can reach chap 10 in 24 hours without cashing cause vedan + Isabelle gonna make u cry a lot

Just use daimion and like 4 supports u can reach chap 7 east

[past urchin]

His signature item is.
He needs mythic ascension.
Without it you will be much better off with Mirael and Rosaline.

[high marlin]

Saevas can carry you for a while

[past urchin]

Read the guides pinned in #classic-questions
Well the most recent 2.
Tree's and something.
The rest is a little dated
@swift storm

[thorny garden]

Lineup help? Thanks!

[high marlin]

Wu Kong can carry you til he gets to level 100

[past urchin]

Overlevel your Wukong :)
Use him and 4x whatever.
Ez chapter 7-8
Then switch to Saveas/Mirael ez chapter 15
And then you'll see where rng gets you.

[high marlin]

This is still useful to keep

[sand parcel]

best formation?, Belinda gets coffin

[high marlin]

Sorry for the second ping, but in #classic-questions in the pinned section there's a few guides that are very helpful

Tbh you have a lot of support and not enough dps.

[thorny garden]

guys can you DM me cuz here got the slowmode which is annoying

[high marlin]

Lucius, rosalina, and rowan isn't enough dps to kill imo, especially against nemora who can heal and increase deff for her team

[sand parcel]

that did it after thirty retries, what's the best lb tower team i should be working on?

who would get replaced with gwyn? fawkes?

[past urchin]

Tbh I got to floor 120 or so using E+ Cecilia with blade
@sand parcel
Though she might fail in this particular stage cause Vurk traps.
Not a hero you wanna dive really.

[lunar quarry]

Hi all, i'm newbie and actually stuck in the game, which team do you recommend to use with my lists?

[past urchin]

Isuggest you read the pins in #classic-questions :)
@lunar quarry
You are entering a phase where you might make mistakes that will slow you down a lot.
Better not to.

[hollow palm]

@sand parcel problem with LB tower is that whatever you end up using, you'll most likely have to retry a lot, especially when you get to stage 300+, since almost every team is a Gwyn counter, Belinda is super fragile and Cec needs +20 9/9 to carry alone, provided she doesn't get bursted down in the first 10-15 seconds

[lunar quarry]

RevoemaG do you speak about Rafkarena? and all guides?

[past urchin]

Nope.
This discord.
#classic-questions
And the guides pinned there.
I dont know how up to date external guides are, but I wouldnt give them too much credit.
From experience.

[pale kettle]

Hi. I have been stuck at this stage for a while and I have tried nearly everything. I would appreciate help and suggestions

[amber halo]

Tasi can't dodge athalia?

[amber halo]

Remove Eironn from that comp and put in lyca for example. Eironn isn't that good at early ascension and low level.

I would ascend hogan and put him in place of saurus as well. And u shouldn't ascend ascended tier heroes to L if they can't go l+

[languid pier]

how do I do this, no tasi or rowan

[drowsy locust]

Any suggestions?

[amber halo]

Why u use mehira over ferael there?

[languid pier]

its random setup, but somehow she outperforms him there

both crap

[amber halo]

Saurus might be a thing if he got +30

[languid pier]

waiting on it:)

soon tm

[amber halo]

U can always check what other people clear it with. Afkhelper.nax.is

[languid pier]

I have I have thank you no luck

[violet hound]

Need help with guild boss lineups please also consider mercing someone if I dont have them/they arentbwhat they need to be.

[timid lintel]

have the option to change a reinforcement hero which one would help this lineup best?

[languid pier]

you dont need 3 carries in team, you dont want to be making heroes L

[timid lintel]

Yeah I realised that when I joined the discord lol but who would you replace in the lineup?

[high marlin]

Keep Shemira bc she's the highest level imo lol

[thorny pendant]

link ainz to shemira and you can use brutus as a tank

That'll also allow you to unlock his sig

[timid lintel]

Ok thanks for the help I’ll try that

[sand parcel]

whats the best formation here?

[languid pier]

did you win there

[timid lintel]

Nope😂😂

Still have a reinforcement hero to choose but not sure was thinking m+ daimon

[languid pier]

tasi

lucius
rowan
brutus
shemira

same shit?

[timid lintel]

I beat it😀 rowan does the job thanks for the help

[languid pier]

no prob, you'll want to use rowan everywhere, and you'll want his signature item +30 first

[wispy night]

Any suggestions?

This my hero

[cobalt obsidian]

anyone can help me on 27-24, i can show the stage and my rooster

[pale monolith]

Instead of Thoran put Brutus and put Dura's Call on Ainz only

[drowsy locust]

@pale monolith any advice for me?

[pale monolith]

Send a pic @drowsy locust

[drowsy locust]

there

[pale monolith]

It's good that you run Eironn comp with Safyia. How much damage does Daimon do?

[cobalt obsidian]

anyone can help me on 27-24, i can show the stage and my heroes

[pale monolith]

Maybe I'll try

[cobalt obsidian]

and also what heroes should i use for the hero swap?

[drowsy locust]

i got M Daimon not long ago and added him to formation
and he is pretty good
but this time all guys except him are dead very fast
and then Belinda finish Daimon

[pale monolith]

Instead of Lyca maybe a Ferael to suck energy from Safyia and instead of Lucius maybe Lotsan

[pale monolith]

Then instead try putting Safyia where Daimon was and instead of Daimon a Ferael

[drowsy locust]

nope)
all dead in instant
and with ferael i have like 737k vs 1588k power
looks like underpower
i just need 1 copy of Eironn and Safya to ascend them

[pale monolith]

You're the underpowerd one

[drowsy locust]

haha, ok

[pale monolith]

My thinking was that Ferael wouldmake the enemy Safyia lose energy so she won't ult,I know hoe annoying she can be

[drowsy locust]

safya not ulting anyway)
i am dead before

[pale monolith]

Send the stats

[drowsy locust]

oh, i checked stats and found out that Safya did most of damage even without ult
so, will try to kill her with Eironn

[pale monolith]

Daimon

Brutus
Safyia
Lyca
Ferael/Nara/Fawkes

[split oar]

help me this shit stops my progress to finish the chapter

[wispy night]

I put dura call on ainz&daimon,do what artifact for daimon?

[pale monolith]

Does he die early?

[wispy night]

He died last

[pale monolith]

Does Ainz ult or gets cose to 2nd ult?

[wispy night]

Sometimes ainz ult once/twice then died

[pale monolith]

With Horn?

Then it'd be best to put Dura's Blade or Dura's Conviction on Daimon

[wispy night]

Okay I'll try it thanks

[ebon hazel]

Brutus and Baden are sweeping me .

[slate elbow]

Help help

[pallid horizon]

what is/are the best daimon comp for chapters 24 to 30?

[ebon hazel]

Fareal Rowan Tasi Lyca

Just kinda the default support team

[pallid horizon]

oh alright, thanks!

[inland crescent]

any tips? maybe i just gotta wait to raise levels and ascension

this my heroes

[shrewd sorrel]

help

[onyx basin]

any recent passes of 387 mauler under lvl 400?

[pale monolith]

Send stats?

[pale monolith]

Yup
https://afkhelper.nax.is/the_brutal_citadel.php?floor=387

[elfin wren]

Any advice? My tanks die before Ainz ults.

Roster photo

[orchid kestrel]

Help

[pale monolith]

Ainz isn't that great without Signature Item. I suggest you make Mirael ypur carry and go with:
Thoran, Hogan - Front row;
Arden, Mirael, Safyia maybe - Back row;

[pale monolith]

Go ahead

[orchid kestrel]

I can't post my ss

But in stuck at 2660

[pale monolith]

26-60?

[orchid kestrel]

Ys

[pale monolith]

Wdym you can't send ss?Maybe try to DM me

[maiden marsh]

discord nsfw filter is unreliable, try recropping it

[slate elbow]

Help help

[inland crescent]

move rowan to center lol

is that mehira i see? try putting her in

also u dont need 2 carries

try some cc or more support

and idk if this is that important but... i do try to get a 3 faction buff atleast in all my team, normally 3-2 but only 3 is fine

[maiden marsh]

faction buff is remarkably unimportant

[marsh nymph]

suggestions? im at that point where im stuck every single stage

[inland crescent]

really?

i thought of it as the holy grail of team building lol

[maiden marsh]

Most people don't even consider it no. Actual synergy is vastly more important

[ebon hazel]

Currently trying
Rowan arthur
Lyca Daimon Nara

[heavy yacht]

How would you guys pass this one

[cerulean cedar]

Try activating Joker's skill with Ferael instead of Thoran

[heavy yacht]

Wait but who's supposed to tank then ? Daimon is getting os-ed so idk what to do

[violet hound]

Thanks friend

[cerulean cedar]

tanks aren't the most important if you have a reliable win condition

[heavy yacht]

I mean, true but if I remove Toran I'm scared the rest of my team might get os-ed, who should be frontline instead of thoran ?

[short zephyr]

hello , here is the original reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/kzdavv/wrizz_and_soren_visual_guide_credits_剑与远征攻略君/ , in the comments section they translate what additional things are written in chinese

[cerulean cedar]

this isn't a voyage, you can fail as many times as it takes

[violet hound]

I hadn't seen a guide that was updated to mortas very helpful

[jolly flare]

I'm stuck on this stage too haha, but my hero's are level 304...

[heavy yacht]

Idk but who should be Frontline? Some things Def don't work :(

[jolly flare]

i have ainz, arthur, rowan, ferael and talene/mezoth

[lapis shard]

Hey guys, what team for Eiron ascended at chapter 25? I'm trying to switch Shemira, she's getting pretty useless
I'm thinking Tasi, Rowan, Rosaline and Queen

[maiden marsh]

no albedo?

[jolly flare]

no im working on that 1

I got Ainz 2 days ago and pushed like 35 stages with him it's insane, plus i finally got Arthur so it's going well

[maiden marsh]

at 304 you could be in chapter 31 at least even with a poo roster just sayin

[cerulean cedar]

joker

[jolly flare]

well i got into the game ages ago and had a super shit meta team back then now im back

It's kinda frustrating to know i played the game so bad i could've been way further rn 😛

[maiden marsh]

good thing you can soon take your 203 shemira or whatever and turn it into a daimon

[jolly flare]

mmm yes, she's 25si hahaha, i will definitely turn her into damion

[latent marlin]

for gb heroes i have daimon/ferael/izold/grezhul A, should i go thoran next or oden? currently at 30-31

[maiden marsh]

thoran

[latent marlin]

mm ok thanks, it only needs si30 right

[maiden marsh]

thoran 30 is very good, his 9/9 furn is also quite nice to lessen the support he needs

[latent marlin]

yea i merced 1 and it seems pretty cool

[rigid birch]

if you also happen to have eironn+skriath 3/3 and a thoran you'll breeze through kings tower so long as there is no ezizh

[livid grove]

can i ask here if ppl are willing to help me create a general team formation?

[maiden marsh]

that's what the channel's for yeah

[livid grove]

yeah no i just asked cause i looked at the pins and wanted to make sure

[maiden marsh]

be aware one single formation will not work in every situation

[livid grove]

i did try many formations for this boss however i cant seem to progress

[velvet grail]

plz help im at the last boss in the trial of god idk what to do

[rigid birch]

oh wow
level 5 elite + heroes only and put the heroes you use in the crystal, reset everyone but Lucretia, Rowan, Fawkes and Lyca
if you need to break the 120 level cap, i highly suggest ascending mirael to L+ and making her a carry

[livid grove]

if i wanted to have at least 1 tank which one would i have to take then?or are they not that improtant?

[rigid birch]

brutus

[cerulean cedar]

put wukong on the crystal

[livid grove]

no slot

[cerulean cedar]

tanks are usually just stall to get your carry ramping up

[livid grove]

oh ok. thanks again. now my formation looks like this now

[proud plover]

I'm always stuck on this stage as Warek and Farael seem to be OP since on interrupts my heroes and the other scares them to inaction. Anyone got recommendations for which relics and which heroes to lineup with?

Is there no hope for me in this stage then?

[velvet grail]

i think you can still use shemira as a carry

over lever her and use her with the LBs

[proud plover]

Use shemira instead of Lyca? Also does that mean I should use Belinda instead of Joker?

[velvet grail]

maybe try brutus lucious shemira rowan rosa

[proud plover]

Shemira died in 5 seconds. Gear is not good enough. Not much improvement with Belinda either.

Recommendations for this floor in terms of hero lineup and relic combos?

[cerulean cedar]

why do you have conviction on belinda and cecilia?

[proud plover]

I thought the attack rating increase would help. Got a recommendation?

[ripe flax]

help please ^^