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[pale monolith]

#816792283688730645

[hallow forge]

Ohh, sorry

[fossil acorn]

still died, but worked way better. The positioning here is 1 2 3 4 5, right?

question is: how?

[maiden marsh]

brutus, thoran, and cc stall like arden

[fossil acorn]

ok, even losing, now I can see light in the tunnel (and it's not the train)

[warm swan]

Yep, like that. Myb switch Arden and Mira. I don't wanna use Ainz in that tier, he's squishy just like what Tru7h said.

[fossil acorn]

ty guys. It has been hard to find help in here, and you gave good ne

@warm swan @maiden marsh

[mellow swan]

@thorny pendant and @maiden marsh thanks for the assist athalia worked

[magic cape]

Can I get help on a best line up with mirael as carry?
Currently using: Thoran Horan, Daimon Mirael Rosalind
Chapter 9 currently

[past urchin]

Drop Thoran.
Aggro reset will get you killed.
If not now then very soon @magic cape

[magic cape]

Who should I use to replace though?

Lacking in the tank department lol

[mellow swan]

Wukong

[past urchin]

Id get Rowan from reinforcements.
Your comp lacks sustain.
Any sustain.
E Daimon is nothing special.He needs his signature item to shine.
And yup.
Rowan
Wukong/Hogan
Mirael
Hogan/Wukong
Rosa

Something like that.

Or Rowan in the midle when you feel.like you can kill stuff in 2 series with Mirael.
Yes mid back is her ideal placement, but she doesnt need to be there at all cost.
Hell...you can even frontile her as long as she is ahead of the enemies with levels.

[magic cape]

Okay thanks guys!

[jagged pike]

Ive been stuck on this for a few days This formation seems to last the longest

[past urchin]

Im pretty sure Daimon is a better carry choice here than this Ainz.
Especially with just Ainz.
He doesnt do damage mate.

You will never in all life outdps this Ulmus or kill him before he ults with this comp.

[jagged pike]

Ty it worked

[maiden marsh]

getting ainz's SI unlocked at the very least will boost your team hilariously well

[jagged pike]

I recently did that only by 1 though

[maiden marsh]

having the instant ult is a gamechanger

[jagged pike]

When he charges energy points at the start?

[maiden marsh]

his SI makes it so that when he ults, he doesn't have to chant anymore
he just instantly casts it

[jagged pike]

Oh

Nice

[lilac shore]

This stage sucks

The Isabella changes have screwed me in campaign

[marsh nymph]

suggestions?

[desert heath]

Is it actually possible to charm ferael with nemora before he uses terrorize? Even with lyca nemora is too slow

[faint current]

It is definitely possible. I have done this many times. You just need to give Nemora enough Haste. She may need Dura's Call artifact, better gear, better Elder Tree, and/or signature item.

[desert heath]

Thanks, that's what I thought. I already gave her Call and the best boots I have. So I just don't have good enough gear at this point and my elder tree is only level 14

[faint current]

It's very possible. With call, +10 sig, T0 factioned gear my Nemora sits at around 47 haste. Not sure off the top of my head where all of that haste comes from but if you're super far below that it might be really difficult to get her to Beguile fast enough.

[desert heath]

Most I can get is 23, so there's the problem. I'll have to try something else for this stage then

[faint current]

Best of luck!

[proud otter]

Feeling a little unsure of where to go from here. Was working towards Gwyn comp but rng kinda made me switch towards budget burst. It's not going so great though. Should I try to get an Eironn comp? Or a different one? Any advice would be appreciated.

My current team is
Eironn
Queen
Lyca
Brutus
Gwyn

[faint current]

Have you considered putting Gwyn middle back? This way her AOE arrows will hit more enemies.

Actually then Eironn will pull enemies near Gwyn. There's some anti-synergy there

[proud otter]

Yup its confusing tbh...

I do that sometimes though. Like when the opponent has low damage or someone in the middle I need to snipe

I also often times replace Brutus with Estrilda depending on their damage

[faint current]

The more heroes you build, the more options you will have in terms of teams to build. I think most of the heroes you build for Gwyn comps are mostly useful only in Gwyn comp, however many heroes can fit into Eironn comp that are useful on other teams as well. For this reason you may consider building into Eironn comp.

[proud otter]

Yeah that's been my biggest issue is that I kinda wanted to go all in with Gwyn x_x

I'm gonna get M Lyca soon which should help Eironn a lot

[faint current]

The good news is that she's useful in LB tower and multibattle.

If you're really wanting to force Gwyn comp on all the stages right now I think you won't progress as quickly

[proud otter]

I don't care to stick with her for any reason other than feeling in too deep

[faint current]

Nah it's time to start swapping to other teams

You can go back and finish her team for multibattle/LB tower later

[dire plover]

Hey people, whatsup?
Line-up question from a beginner:
Should I ascend Saveas and Silvina feeding the others as marked?

[proud otter]

Okay cool. I'll work on switching to Eironn then. Should I go Eironn comp or 5pull?

[faint current]

5pull is a type of Eironn comp that requires Skriath's 3f effect. So...both

[proud otter]

Oooh okay ty!

[faint current]

You have 6 copies of Daimon, Tasi, and Lyca and those heroes are incredibly versatile. Daimon does well with many different teams, and Tasi and Lyca are "throw them in just about any team you want and do well" type of supports. This is an oversimplification but building those will just make your life much easier.

[faint current]

I would recommend reading the two most recently-pinned guides in #classic-questions , they'll answer anything you ever wanted to know about who to ascend first.

[proud otter]

Ya I know lyca is amazing and Tasi seems great too. I've been thinking about ascending daimon but was worried about using fodder that I might directly be able to benefit from in my main team

[faint current]

That's a valid concern. If you want when you're feeling like you want to ascend someone, you can post your roster, separated into 4 main factions, into #classic-questions and ask who would be best to ascend next.

[proud otter]

Awesome, thank you for the help!

[snow snow]

hi any idea how should i place them to beat 16-12?

[late echo]

Can I get AE help on final boss?

[maiden marsh]

#816792283688730645

[late echo]

Ahh okay

[dire plover]

@faint current thanks. That helped :)

[faint current]

Anytime!

[snow snow]

Anyone can help?

[rapid sage]

Hi I'm big noob in afk, been playing for like 4 days. I have a question cuz I heard you souldn't level up more than 5 heroes with exp, than who should I be putting in this thing? The 5 characters that I have most copies of and reset every time I get someone that can be leveled up further than the current lowest one?

[lean latch]

First few weeks just level up the 3 ability blue (rare) heroes as your five and put heroes you use in campaign on the crystal @rapid sage

You'll be able to take those to 160 and you need fodder to ascend things to mythic. Mirael is a good dps carry till chapter 12-13 ish

[rapid sage]

Hmm okay, I thought those legendary heroes were useless, tysm for the help. Also what team do you suggest out of my current box? @lean latch

I am on chapter 8-21 rn

[lean latch]

Mirael lucius Rosaline is a good early game core, supports like lyca and arden are good too

[vital pine]

Suggestions for progression?

[lean latch]

Don't ascend things to legendary without four copies or more bc you'll get stuck waiting to take them further

[rapid sage]

So keep things elite + for those premium heroes?

[lean latch]

Usually early game you can just use mirael lucius rosa and pull and plug the other two as needed, tanks with immunity like brutus thoran are good, CC like arden, tasi etc

Yeah you need four copies to go legendary+ to mythic+, 8 for ascended

Use the rare heroes to 160 and then pick one hero per faction to use fodder on

[rapid sage]

I'll screenshot this convo tysm for the help bro

I'm really enjoying the game so far and I wanna progress in a good way

[lean latch]

If you take too many heroes to legendary/mythic you'll not be able to ascend the first ones you get 8 copies of

So be careful using your fodder to not get stuck

[vital pine]

Ainz is best carry

[rapid sage]

Okay, and about spending diamonds, there is no such things as banners with X amount of characters right? So I should summon whenever I have 2700?

[vital pine]

Yeet

[lean latch]

Yes diamonds should only be spent on 10 pulls until later

[vital pine]

Buy elite gems in the store

[lean latch]

Later you can refresh store to buy extra dust every day, and fast rewards, but don't do that until later

[rapid sage]

These?

[pale monolith]

Yes, epic sole sole stone

[lean latch]

Yeah those, labyrinth store you should work to build Arthur. The elite four faction heroes are not good value

Make sure you have a good wishlist set up, don't change it until you get those heroes to 8 copies

[rapid sage]

What about this? Should I save my medals for this exchange?

[lean latch]

No don't exchange this early in the game

Guild store save everything until you can get mythic gear and mythic upgrade stones

[rapid sage]

Okay, got it

That's how my list is looking

[lean latch]

-new lightbringer +raine -anoki +tidus -nemira +pippa -shemira +thoran

[nova zinc]

Hey guys, newb hree. I am stuck on 5-40. Should i change my team with what i got?

[lean latch]

Is the best strategy. Shemira used to be good but she's outclassed by daimon izold ferael and not a good investment

[pale monolith]

Why Rain? Bad advice

[lean latch]

Raine is underrated, needed for TR and guild boss, viable with daimon and especially ainz

[rapid sage]

I saw a guy on YT saying she is crazy good early carry

[maiden marsh]

Raine is extremely good, not even underrated.

[pale monolith]

I seen her used in Twisted Realm but never used with Ainz or Daimon

[lean latch]

She's an excellent teammate with ainz in multi battle stages

You need +10 3/9 minimum but yeah

[rapid sage]

How to get Ainz? 🚶‍♂️

[lean latch]

Shemira is good 180-240 but you shouldn't use your fodder ascending a hero that will become useless

[pale monolith]

Can't, you can get Dimensionals only for a limited time and Ainz passed but you can Garisson

[lean latch]

She has a bad signature item and furniture so she is outclassed later. It might not seem like it now but you'll get 8 copies of things and be stuck waiting on fodder

[rapid sage]

I can get him on fresh account?

[lean latch]

So ascending shemira is a waste when gb have much better heroes

No ainz was a previous dimensional, you can garrison him much later but not worth early game

He's useless without his signature item even if you had him now

[rapid sage]

Okay, ngl I was thinking of getting him

Guess I'll wait with that

[pale monolith]

No

[lean latch]

You should wait, maybe when you need 3 teams for campaign

[rapid sage]

Aaand these? What can I use them for?

[lean latch]

Focus on making a good daimon or eironn team first, and use your faction scrolls on wilders or gb

They upgrade signature items 20-30, you need 300 for every +30

[rapid sage]

So summon these 5?

[lean latch]

Yeah pick wilders or gb and use all scrolls on one until you can ascend fully a few heroes

[rapid sage]

Okay, will do that 👍

[lean latch]

If you pick gb shemira needs to be off the list for sure

[rapid sage]

And of the 2 which do you think is better?

[zenith fern]

Gb is better

[rapid sage]

To summon on

[lean latch]

They're about the same but daimon is easier to make a good team

Eironn needs specific teammates and more investment

[rapid sage]

So I'll just roll with gb ig

[lean latch]

Yeah, build order is daimon or izold, ferael thoran

Build daimon or izold but then wait on the other till later since they're both carries that want their own teams

[pale kettle]

What do I use for this stage? Having trouble

[rapid sage]

@lean latch is my list correct now? Kinda confusing since I don't know most of the names and how characters look

[lean latch]

Change nemora (centaur girl) to pippa (glasses wearing)

Change bucket hat to silas

And horned mauler to tidus the dog

[distant merlin]

Remove izold

Put nara

[lean latch]

That's also probably good but if you get unlucky daimon you can go izold as carry

[distant merlin]

Izold needs furniture to be good right

[lean latch]

3/9 but daimon needs that too tbh

[zenith fern]

I dont have furniture on my izold and he shreds

[distant merlin]

Also you dont need pippa until later

[pale kettle]

Izold is pretty good. I’ve used him and he tears through lots of stuff

[lean latch]

Pippa is better than nemora though

[distant merlin]

Maybe

[lean latch]

Nemora is really not very good without a lot of investment once you're past early game

[zenith fern]

@rapid sage There are a couple guides pined in the questions channel, I recommend you take a look at them if you haven't already

[rapid sage]

And change anything in the first row?

[lean latch]

Change hooded guy for pink haired girl

[rapid sage]

I will do that too thank you, been on the server for like 40min

[lean latch]

That's The last change everything else is good

[pale kettle]

Wait did I post my screenshots in the wrong channel? I thought this was also like a lineup for stages and stuff.

[zenith fern]

it is

[pale kettle]

Oh ok sounds good

[rapid sage]

@lean latch

[lean latch]

He asked about early game and I wanted to help him with his wishlist, and perfect @rapid sage

Just leave those till you get 8 copies and then swap stuff after

[rapid sage]

Thank you so much for taking all this time helping me @lean latch 🧎‍♂️

Ok, I uprade legendary units till 8 copies of someone

[lean latch]

Make sure you use the redemption codes and check out some guides for other advice

[rapid sage]

Redemption codes?

[lean latch]

Well legendary heroes till you can go past 160 level. Google it piotr you'll find a list of codes for free stuff

[rapid sage]

Okay I will do that

[pale kettle]

Yeah those are it

To redeem you have to go to a separate website to log in and redeem them

[lean latch]

There are newer ones if the Chinese New year ones are still active

[topaz rain]

What is a good mehira counter?

[lean latch]

Looks like a good stage for Gwyn team if you haven't tried

[topaz rain]

Gonna try

[lean latch]

Or eironn too, daimon you'll be waiting to rng cc to stop mehira ult

[distant merlin]

What about eironn. Theres lots of rangers i would try him

[topaz rain]

Well mehira shreds me with gwyn comp... what is the eironn team? I did not try him in campain

[lean latch]

Eironn safiya lyca tasi ferael since you don't have the 3/9 for bird

Or -ferael +rowan

Move eironn around, roll dodge rng, profit

[topaz rain]

Bird needs to be 3/9 to be usefull? Without +30?

[lean latch]

3 gives eironn his pull on all five

Don't need +30 until 35+ probably

I've used +10 3/9 in the early 30s on my main but that was with tidus instead of rowan/ferael

[topaz rain]

Oh ok thanks 🙂 i’ll put him in the furniture wishlist

I’m gonna try eironn we’ll see

[lean latch]

He's a very high priority 3/9 especially with your 30 eironn already

[topaz rain]

I didn’t know that, i must admit that for now, daimon was my only carry, he got me to 29 all by himself

[lean latch]

I literally never see replays on multi stage without five pull, it's one of the main teams even for whales

[wooden roost]

struggling

[topaz rain]

Five pull?

[lean latch]

Skriath eironn is five pull since he sucks all five with the 3/9 bonus

[wooden roost]

skriath + eironn @topaz rain

[topaz rain]

Oh ok thanks 🙂

[past urchin]

Except that wont work.
Eironn doesnt stop Mehira from getting her bats off and if she does you are dead.
Use Nara or Athalia.
Both work even at E @topaz rain

[topaz rain]

Nara on mehira?

[past urchin]

Or Athalia, yes.

[topaz rain]

Ok i’ll try that ! With eironn comp or daimon comp?

[past urchin]

Something like
Tasi
Rowan
Nara
Eironn
Lyca

Give it a few tries too :)
@topaz rain

[topaz rain]

@past urchin oh god it worked ! Thanks a lot !

[past urchin]

No problem.
Glad it worked :)

[last trench]

Is this formation good or should I replace one of my units with something else

[frigid hinge]

Fairly said, you can use wukong instead of the butcher as a frontliner.

You can also consider taking out Talene or Belinda to add in Lyca, boost up the speed of your Gwyneth.

[topaz portal]

Should be able to beat it with this comp, but getting terrible luck. Any suggestions or should I just spam the retry button for like an hour?

Happy to merc someone if needed as well

[stark valley]

Eliot you have ainz and albedo the strongest combo in the game but opt for eirron

[maiden marsh]

without furn or SI ainzbedo pretty sad

[topaz portal]

They get one shot because I didn’t opt to put resources into them

Casual so info didn’t get out to me very fast lol

[amber badge]

Y’all I’m on 23-60 and stuck as hell, please help 😦

[mint nimbus]

Who should I take?

[thorny pendant]

hold on to it, but it's either going to be flora or saurus

[safe falcon]

wtf is this xd

[shut glacier]

@topaz rain usually use Nara to stop Mehira from releasing her bats

@amber badge u need Rowan Mythic+20 , and place him front of Izold.remove Nara, place Talene front and bring Lyca back. If does not work, remove Lyca and add Farael

[amber badge]

I appreciate the help but I got 23-60 with this:
Daimon brutus farael Rowan thoran. Farael needs weapon and level 220. Got it second try with this form after 6+ hours of resetting

[shut glacier]

Ah 6 hours of resetting!!!

U play on PC?? I think any phone cannot bear it.

[forest cliff]

How do you beat this

[shut glacier]

@forest cliff I used +30 Eiron with Ezizh , back are A.tier Talene mercenary , Rowan ,+30 Arthur. I think other comps that should also work are Thoran cheese and Izold +30comp

[forest cliff]

you used eironn, ez, and arthur in lightbearer tower? teach me senpai

[shut glacier]

Oh I just realize it is LB not main.... Hahaha

[forest cliff]

so anyone else got some real advice?

[eager helm]

Does Rosaline work with Vurk? got them both early on, but idk if Rosa even follows Vurk right

[forest cliff]

she will follow the highest power no matter who it is

[eager helm]

does she have to be ontop of the other character to use her abilities though?

Because when he ults he just runs around like a madman

[hard hemlock]

@forest cliff not sure if this helps but

Took tons of retries tho

Shroud on gwyn (to tank athalias dmg at the beginning)

[high marlin]

You want the cellophage imo. Since they are rare

[twin socket]

Almost 3 days i have tried everything i can think ofc

[vivid hull]

Who can I replace talene for she’s not doing much for me anymore 💀

That’s the team I’ve been using it’s gotten me pretty far

[nimble fossil]

I need to know who to use here

[exotic crater]

you'd be better off using your shem instead of ainz
reason1: shem works better at low investment / chapters
reason2: your shem is level 160, compared to ainz 146 - levels matter A LOT

i'd try: 1. lucius, 2. shem, 3. talene, 4. rowan, 5. daimon

you're also having poor fodder management by putting heroes at L. i'd suggest to take another look at the pinned guides both here and over at #classic-questions to read up on efficient ascension again

[twin socket]

What frontline what backline also thank you

[exotic crater]

from your hero box, farael and tasi are useful; arden is also useful at your level, but it seems you've chosen (poorly imo) to ascend ira instead.

apart from that, my personal experience with talene was quite positive - she can provide good heals and a bit of stall if needed. i'd switch out flora since i feel she's weaker early but i have not much experience with flora so i may be wrong on that.

[exotic crater]

i have already listed their positions.
clear everyone out first, you can see the numbers on the battlefield
1 & 2 are frontline, 3 4 5 are backline, from top to bottom in order

[weak briar]

Are there something i can change for win? Cuz i don't have idea and now Just afk for leveling lowest heroes to 120,and then max daimon to 160

[dire carbon]

@weak briar would be a good strat to save a bit for the dimensional month exchange and get ur self a strong dimensional, i recommend linking shemira to that dimensional and u could push campgain alot faster

[weak briar]

Save what?)

[dire carbon]

resources

[weak briar]

Exp and gold?

[dire carbon]

get your self maybe a ainz (no resources are labyrinth, guild, hero and challenger coins)

[weak briar]

Oh, this resources, i don't spend them and Just wait for 250k cap, how prefer in guides

I Just asking about my situation atm)

[dire carbon]

buy 100 dimensional stones, then request an ainz from one of ur friends/or guild members an they eventually lend out that dimensional

[pale kettle]

Halp

[dire carbon]

u can spend other coins aint matter

[pale kettle]

Way overleveled and still getting my shit pushed in

[dire carbon]

lmao im 300 crystal f2p at 30-20 but anyway ill try help

[pale kettle]

No shit. I'll take any advice

[weak briar]

Ok, i'l think about that, but no one has him 👍

[dire carbon]

ainz maybe couldif u make him survive for an ult, maybe eironn in middle with lyca for faster void pull

[dire carbon]

find someone in chat channels ask them to add u for there ainz and u may eventually get it

gl on the stage anyway

[weak briar]

Which resources are better to spend for that? The most i have guild coins and lab, but guild coins i think i don't need until mythic gear unlock

[dire carbon]

guild coins are the most ez to get

yeah i recommend using them most

[weak briar]

Thanks :)

[dire carbon]

welcome 👍

[amber halo]

Maybe I'm too weak?

[thorny pendant]

Who else do you have?

[inland socket]

I can’t crack this 😂

[dim glacier]

hello, i just unlocked twisted realms. it seems like all the top comps require the twins, who i do not have. is there an alternative workable setup i can use? or should i just use my strongest units? this is what i have

[past urchin]

Unfortunately there is no Twins replacement.
Did you unlock stargazer already?
@dim glacier

[dim glacier]

i have just cleared chapter 12 of the story. stargazer is field of stars, right? i’ve only unlocked sands of time

[past urchin]

You need to beat ch 15 or 16 I think.

[dim glacier]

ah. so should i just throw my strongest team in and hope for the best? the boss description says it flees after a certain amount of ults have been used, though, and my team is reliant on belinda’s ults

[past urchin]

Pretty much.
The truth is you should not worry about TR much at this stage in the game.
You have much more important aspects to focus on.
Such as building your first A hero and then 5 of them.

[dim glacier]

okay, thank you. i was just planning to gather as much mats as i can and get a head start before i actually get around to worrying about it

[past urchin]

You will still get twisted essence.
Thing is your TR floor is too low to get Poe coins.
And thats mostly why its not worth pulling your hair ;)

[dim glacier]

ohh i see. i suppose just patience and rng for me then

[past urchin]

As for Twins.
Just be patient with the ongoing exchange event.
Dont exchange anything until the last day.
If you can get a hero to mythic by that time (Id ask in #classic-questions , its not worth rushing a terrible mythic just to have one) you will have red faction emblems unlocked for exchange.
If thats the case, they are your best call.
If you dont have a mythic hero at that time, grab Twins and 9 fodder cards.
Also this is completely off topic for this channel.
Oh well 😅

[dire carbon]

Yes they do actually alot, one of the top tier hero's, but for now looking at ur account seems like belinda gonne be ur main damager in there, so i recommend using: belinda for burst, rosaline for buffing belinda, lucuis for sustain, rowan for heals and lastly Talene cuz she's overall a nice healer bette put in crystal lmao

[woven mason]

I m trying thoran chesee for the first time but it doesn t really work. Tasi banishes lyca or eironn so she always survive till thoran ult and enemies spread out. I managed to kill everybody except tasi once but since then I didn t have any result even close to that. Any advices?

[pale monolith]

Instead of Athalia Nara

[woven mason]

it worked incredibly but I don t understand why

athalia pushed same as nara would plus nara stopped shemira from attacking so they dealt less damage to thoran

[unreal condor]

https://i.imgur.com/CIny24H.png Mauler tower?

[woven mason]

at least that what I saw from my perspective

[past urchin]

Did you clear it? @woven mason

[unreal condor]

Every lineup I've seen is like I have, with Safiya, but I've never seen her get an ult off at all

[woven mason]

yeah, after like 3 tries on auto, I didn t even need manual

[past urchin]

Good rng :)

[woven mason]

but it s not just rng, I was doing something wrong with athatlia and I need to figure it out. Every time I tried with nara thoran killed everybody except Ogi and with athalia he would deal almost no damage.

[fast anvil]

thoran cheese is an art form that has a ton of different interactions. nara passive might've changed enemy ult timings to land within thoran's ult window? nara's lockdown could've ended at a different time than athalia's that changes how much damage thoran takes during ult? stuff like that

[past urchin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/m5wji8/a_comprehensive_guide_to_thoran_cheese_even_for/

[woven mason]

yea, you re right. I notice that even small changes in equipment would change whole battle. I need to experiment a lot with it. Thanks again

[fast anvil]

yep - usually you want to take chestplate off thoran (and sometimes weapon if you don't need the accuracy) so that he takes and reflects more damage

[woven mason]

thanks, guid seems great, I ll read it completly 🙂

[warm swan]

@woven mason you are def asking for rng in that battle. Tasi is rng incarnate herself who would usually require a Flora just to proc her to tp close to Thoran at the right moment. Plus, Grez shield weakens Thoran's retaliation dmg.

[past urchin]

^^
Especially when Tasi is in spot 4 like here and you cant Lorsan link her.

[fast anvil]

you can prob lorsan link tasi from position 2 or 5 because silvina teleports, but I doubt he'd meet power reqs after that

[past urchin]

Oh he would :)
He's higher lvls here than I am at 29-60.

[fast anvil]

using 2+ elite heroes might not meet power reqs even at that level, but it's just a guess

[languid pier]

what else could I try?

[languid pier]

cant kill thoran and mehira

[slender scroll]

Any suggestions on how to beat this stage?

[worn pilot]

Can I get some help with this please?

[drowsy gazelle]

Well i mean, i dont really use joker as a carry. So im not sure how to help u

[sweet pasture]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=23&stage=16

[worn pilot]

My Eironn is offended

[worn pilot]

Thanks but I don't see how I'm gonna make any of those comps work with what I have

[maiden marsh]

no time like the present to switch to daimon carry

[worn pilot]

Number of Daimon copies: 0
What's wrong with Eironn?

[languid pier]

hes not masculine enough

[worn pilot]

[tulip cloud]

what i can do?

[pale monolith]

Can you send stats of the battle

[tulip cloud]

y mean this?

[pale monolith]

No this

[tulip cloud]

and this

[pale monolith]

Is Lucius good for anything

[tulip cloud]

tbh im not sure
i tried talena instead but no difference

[pale monolith]

Try a Ferael where Lucius is now to stun Arden and make Shemira lose

[tulip cloud]

fera is epic+

no difference

[pale monolith]

Dosen't matter

I use him being L+ and passed some stages cuz of him

[tulip cloud]

like he's not using fear

[pale monolith]

Try like 10 times

[tulip cloud]

kk

[pale monolith]

Uses Fear?

[tulip cloud]

even if he use its change nothing

[pale monolith]

Try a Lorsan because of his linking ability

[tulip cloud]

no slots in crystal

[pale monolith]

Maybe try manualing leveling up to lvl 81 or something for that ability

[tulip cloud]

sec

errrrr no money

need only 3 more lvl to get it

[pale monolith]

=(

[tulip cloud]

ig i'll just wait sunday if i can't do it

anyway thx for trying

[pale monolith]

No problem. Usually Fawkes, Lorsan and Ferael are the cheap way to pass a level

[tulip cloud]

i can try fawkes leg

[pale monolith]

Probably going to die instantly in every position

[tulip cloud]

btwwww not bad at all

[pale monolith]

Wdym

[warm swan]

@tulip cloud can you try Shem, Grez, Rosa, Rowan, Lucius? Give Shem the blade.

[pale monolith]

Wouldn't it be better to have Call

[tulip cloud]

forgot to take screen of stats
my luc even ult and every enemy hero had like 20% hp

fawkes is good

[pale monolith]

Alright, may the RNG be with you

[tulip cloud]

just had no time left
shemira x shem 1x1

i'll try blade on shema

[pale monolith]

I'm suprised Isabella isn't wrecking your team since the buff

If Shemira has enough time to ult def go with Blade

[tulip cloud]

isabella buffed but stages with her is debuffed

yaaaay thx guys

[pale monolith]

Nice👍

[warm swan]

You're battling against attrition there. The longer the battle takes with Ulmus heal, Shem heal, and Grez shield, the stronger the dmg from blade.

[pale monolith]

I'm used to the battles taking 15secs

But yeah Shemira is one of the few mage heros that it dosen't need to get more ults

[warm swan]

If you need more ults from Shem, use Rosa+Rowan combo. Blade+ult+ult again

[tulip cloud]

my rosa btw dying before even 1st ult

[split oar]

My team gets almost insta killed. Any ideas? Or just wait until i get eironn asceneded / all team 160

[fast anvil]

doesn't saurus just insta-die to saveas spear in that position? I'd try swapping rowan/saurus positions at the very least because rowan can dodge/immune the spear pretty often

[blazing fulcrum]

Who should I go for?

[languid pier]

twins

[bleak bridge]

^

[feral hedge]

Currently at 9-12 and using Shemira as my carry. Any suggestions on how to readjust for maybe better pushing power?

[tulip dagger]

Any idea? Isa is always killing my entire team, tried hooking her with nara already but silvina is making it hard too

[bleak bridge]

You have wasted alot of precious fodder. Also numisu gwyn and especially thane are not heroes you should focus early game.

[feral hedge]

Good to know, any suggestions where to focus?

[bleak bridge]

Shem before 160 really is not all that good

Saveas or miraell works best until then. you can fodder them later on

[feral hedge]

In not a whale but can toss some gems to smooth the shift

[bleak bridge]

Tho at this point since you have focused eiron aswell, Try eiron, lyca, nemora, brutus tasi. Start working on getting rowan to mythic now

[feral hedge]

Will do, thank you.

[plain venture]

Is it possible to beat this with out using my mercenary’s

I don’t wanna use them because this is level 39

[proud otter]

I definitely think it should be

[plain venture]

I’ve beat 25-38 with no problems so that’s why I think it should be possible but I don’t know the line up that can beat this

[proud otter]

Should be fine with Arthur, Daimon/Lucius, Belinda, Rosa, Saurus

[plain venture]

Those are my mercs

[proud otter]

Ohh derp, right

Phew that was dumb xD
I still think Lucius, Daimon, Shemira, Rosa, and Raine should do well

[plain venture]

Ok I’ll try it

[proud otter]

Not a whole lot of synergy, it should still work though I would imagine

[cerulean cedar]

it's early game, whatever works works

[proud otter]

Ya pretty much xD
There's certain things that help though of course

[plain venture]

It worked

[proud otter]

Woo

Don't be afraid to retry btw

[plain venture]

My pulls are about as lucky as a rhino getting stuck in your China shop

[proud otter]

There's a lot of rng between matches.
And ya I get that. I have pretty horrible rng lol.

[plain venture]

Put it this way it’s get 50+ pulls since my last epic

[proud otter]

There's a pity timer thing that makes sure it doesn't get that long but I get it. It feels that way to me too

[plain venture]

I’ve got epics from shards and cards but damn bro my tavern luck is zero

Just did 20 more pulls no epics 😭

[faint current]

There is a pity timer for regular summons and faction summons that triggers after 30 pulls and the average is 22. (Separate timers) This means two things:
A) While having good luck certainly feels good, there really isn't such a thing as "bad" luck in this game since the pity is so close to the average.
B) You're right at the pity timer for both categories. 25 in each category means an epic awaits you in the next 5 pulls for each.

[snow raven]

I garrisoned Ainz to try and replace Mirael but none of my heroes are even casting before getting run over. Anything I can try here or just need to wait for more team levels?

[plain venture]

That’s how it works? I’ve pulled 20 from hearts 20+from gems and 20 from factions with no epics

I’ve done 40 total pulls today no luck also we might wanna stop talking about pulls in this channel

[red fable]

Even with my newly acquired mythic+ daimon I cant seem to get past this stage

[maiden marsh]

and both factions and diamond summons are short of the independent 30 pity in your case

[meager mural]

Try flipping your units 1brutus, 2thoram, 3daimom, 4rowan, 5hook lady

Thoran vs luc faction advantage brutus will soak atalia and ranger fps and nemora will be hooked

[shut bluff]

After all your expert help again.!!!! 29-60! It’a an absolute bastard of a stage !!! I’ve tried so many recommended line ups !

I think I need Eironn in there for damage but he just dies

[plain venture]

With my current hero’s what’s my best pick from this chest

Rest of my hero’s are just fodder so the only one I have a match for is Nara

[sudden bluff]

basically always celepogen so get flora

[plain venture]

Ok I was thinking flora or saurus

[sudden bluff]

and also stop making legendarys ur wasting fodder and can get capped

[plain venture]

Then who out of my legendary should I not continue to build an use as fodder

[sudden bluff]

don't fodder ur ascended tier heros. What i mean is stop ascending e+ into L if you can't get them to L+ since then u'll be relieing on rng to get the other 2 needed coppies. There is no rush to ascend heros unless it's for a major break point like to M where u unlock signiture item or A for furniture or when you are level capped

[plain venture]

Ik about the 8 copies thing

Most of my L where made before I knew about it thou so I’m where I am now

[sudden bluff]

have u completed divine realm on peaks of time?

[plain venture]

Yes

Also I can make Numisu M is that a good idea

[sudden bluff]

maulers are pretty bad early game though, since no cc

[plain venture]

Cc?

[sudden bluff]

crowed control

[plain venture]

Oh

[sudden bluff]

how many copies of shemira do u have?

[plain venture]

One

[sudden bluff]

and also the l+ and e+ right?

[plain venture]

Yes but I was told to wait till I get daimon M first

[sudden bluff]

daimon signiture item is really good, but if you end up having enough to ascend shemira i would to unlock the hero choice pull, just don't invest in her furniture or signiture item

[plain venture]

Ima buy my last daimon pair for the spring event

Then get him M after that I’ll see what I can do for her

[sullen lance]

Can someone help me with this lineup? I get so agonizingly close to victory and just get team wiped at the last second

[plain venture]

Do you have different mercs

[sudden bluff]

i'm guessing mirael wipes u? if so put athalia to the oposite side of her

[sullen lance]

Ah right, here’s the mercs

[sullen lance]

Mirael does some damage, but not enough for a full team wipe. It's mostly the A tier axe guy in front bottom that snipes my mirael over and over

[sudden bluff]

try putting athalia in front of him

[plain venture]

Oh yeah I remember that level it was a pain

Ended up putting a tank in the back to soak his axes

[sullen lance]

Hmm. Running athalia infront of axe guy she survives longer, but the rest of my team dies first

[sudden bluff]

remove eluard maybe, and why isn't mirael in the middle?

[sullen lance]

Biggest problem is my mirael only does 80% of their HP in a single ult, and dies before she can get a second one. And if I put Rosaline in I don't have the 3 tanks it takes to hold them off long enough for a single ult

[sullen lance]

Mirael was just getting sniped by axe guy constantly so I tried moving her around

[sudden bluff]

try again now that athalia can distract him?

and also u can friend my alt if u want, it's not the best but the mercs are probably stronger than the ones you have currently though someone else is borrowing them

[sullen lance]

talene crumples like wet toilet paper and they all go straight for mirael, and if I move rowan and talene around, talene doesn't ever get hit and never heals

[sudden bluff]

try brutus for immunity

[plain venture]

Try get a stronger merc than M tier

[sullen lance]

...Oh wow. I forgot I added a guy who has been playing this game for ages this week. Who should I request?

[sudden bluff]

just one with good signiture item

[sullen lance]

Thanks for all the help guys

[sudden bluff]

just click on one and see which one has the best signiture item and furniture

[maiden marsh]

daimon eironn and ferael are all good options, ainz when he's available is also pog

[sullen lance]

I applied, just waiting for a response

[plain venture]

When I get aniz I just speed run lab

It’s quite fun

[sudden bluff]

shemira works too

[plain venture]

Aniz is faster

[sudden bluff]

definitely

[plain venture]

Literally Insta one shot with Rosa

Or him self if he gets all 5 first shot

[languid reef]

I know this is pre-chapter 10, but i'm really getting stuck here. Are there any linups that would help me progress a decent amount from here?

[pale kettle]

Help

[dull trellis]

This kind of stage is just stupid, any help?

[pale monolith]

In front only Rowan and Belinda, in the back lvl 1 heros

[dull trellis]

Why level 1?

[pale monolith]

Idk was struggling on the same stage, watched a replay of someone doing that and worked for me after 3 tries

[dull trellis]

Was your Belinda well equipped? Mine basically instadies

[pale monolith]

Best gear on her

[dull trellis]

Ok, I'll keep trying, thanks

[pale monolith]

👍

[plain venture]

@sudden bluff @maiden marsh

I got my epic

[crude obsidian]

I am mega stuck

I cannot not do this

[split bolt]

Any ideas? Been stuck here for a while

[shut bluff]

Come on guys help a brother out! This is doing my head in... so close!!!

[warm swan]

Tasi, Rowan, Eironn, Lyca, Daimon? Call, chalice, call, eye, barricade

[shut bluff]

Will Give it a go 👌

[summer cedar]

brutus lyca daimon rowan tasi maybe

[fossil acorn]

Ideas?

[fair lily]

Please help. I’ve been stuck on 19-8 for over a week now.

[fossil acorn]

over a week? Just use a merc

[fair lily]

Let’s pretend I don’t have one.

GB are always tricky for me. They melt me 😦

[warm swan]

@fossil acorn switch Thoran and Antandra's position? And also Arden and Mira's. Who does Thoran taint btw?

[tepid sequoia]

Mirael and Athalia been a pain in the ass. Could someone help

[fossil acorn]

how can I see?

[warm swan]

Uhh, run in it normal speed ig? Thoran will throw a purple thingy at the start of the fight.

[languid pier]

have u tried tasi instaed of ezio

[hard forge]

Or drop the dim comp and run rowan daimon fera

[rapid sage]

Stuck on last one before 9 😭 can someone please help?

[tepid sequoia]

It doesn’t work still, if I take away ezio my dim comp gonna be weaker. I tried daimon farael rowan also didn’t work

[fossil acorn]

Doing on normal. Is the taint animation a purple fireball like thing?

[warm swan]

@fossil acorn Yes. So it's Isa. Can Antandra in position 1 kill her fast? Have you tried the set-up I suggested a couple of posts up? Antandra, Thoran, Arden, Rowan, Mira.

[fossil acorn]

top back girl

[fossil acorn]

yes I tried

ends up with antandra 1v3 after a while

I can share screen via dm, if u wanna watch the fight

[warm swan]

Won't be able to watch it anyway. Have shtty internet right now. Images here won't even load properly

But anyway, switch your team around. Keep Ant alive and rolling. Maybe Ant, Thoran, Arden, Mira, Rowan

[fossil acorn]

I think the problem is rowan is dying before he ults

[empty ibex]

Isabella is unreachable, not even Nara pull helps. Once Isabella Ults it's game over, not a chance. What can I do? She's the only one making this stage extremely busted

[honest night]

need some help, struggling to deal with isa/shem/fera, is it just level diff?

[devout path]

Levels shouldn't be an issue there. I would try switching Brutus and Talene, or Talene and Daimon and seeing if anything changes.

[honest night]

thx, surprised the talene/daimon swap worked up front after a few retries

[devout path]

np

[summer cedar]

brutus thoran arden rowan daimon

[autumn ginkgo]

Suggestions to beat this? Or is the level difference just way too big lol

[empty ibex]

Tried this out and it didn't end well. Lyca gives Isabella early advantage making Arden pretty useless

[broken cloud]

Who should i promote and how should my lineup Look Like?
additional i have an e talene, e fiora, e Monkey, e azizh and joker

[proper orchid]

This one sucks

[magic cape]

Is this possible to beat with just E+ heroes? I’m currently stuck at this stage for awhile

[fast anvil]

yeah should be easily possible. I don't think you need saveas in that comp if you're using mirael as your main carry. Try replacing saveas with another support like arden/nemora? also you probably have enough fodder to ascend mirael and get her to level 140 which would help a ton

[bleak rain]

Hi ! What comp should I play for the championship ?
Thanks for your time and advices !

[pale kettle]

New to the game, so kinda stuck here.

[sharp dove]

Need help for VoW

[devout path]

@pale kettle Read the pins in the #classic-questions tab. You should be leveling more fodder heroes, especially Mirael. She can help carry.

[pale kettle]

Alright thannks

[mighty sage]

Any ideas

[marble bone]

Any help ?

[summer cedar]

this question is better suited to #classic-questions but I would M gwyn and tidus. do not make them M+. wait until they're 180 and ask again.

[summer cedar]

u need a dodge tank or rowan or thoran or talene in position 3. str units get bullied by athalia's

[summer cedar]

hogan daimon safi rowan saveas maybe

[summer cedar]

belinda daimon arden rowan lyca might work, but it'll be awkward. need some better frontliners

[summer cedar]

swap brutus and daimon. saveas likes getting kills and brutus shield prevents an early one

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions

[jagged pike]

Maybe blade for daimon and ainz?

[summer cedar]

I'd just drop ainz for tasi

[jagged pike]

Ty

It didnt work should i mess around with the formations?

[somber pawn]

Put regeneration artifact on daimon, it helps a ton with his survivability with the ult , change ainz for tasi and maybe put rowan front line and gwenyth in position 4

[covert sedge]

Im stuck at 24-54 any tips with my current setup

[abstract plover]

Hey guys, I'm stuck 3-7, have mostly LB so suffering against GB. I'm after some team comp ideas for this and Tower if anyone could please help?

[pale kettle]

sorry im confused, you mean chapter 3 in the campaign? or

@abstract plover

its probably not but what does 3-7 mean if its not campaign

[golden hull]

I am stuck at 90M atm, anyone know a better line up for the Boss in Abyssal Expedition that can get me to 100M+?

I saw the Pins in #816792283688730645 It was no help with the current heroes I have

[abstract plover]

Lol oops 13.7

[rigid birch]

sending your heroes would help

[pale kettle]

ohh that makes sense

[thorny pendant]

What are your relics at?

[cursive lodge]

@golden hull you could ask any questions relate to AE in #816792283688730645

[golden hull]

Relics are at 5, 5.2 for Mage and Support @thorny pendant

[shut bluff]

Gonna pull my hair out on this one! Tried all recommended line ups

[somber pawn]

I would say put rowan at 4, eironn at 3, and maybe ainz at 5? Which one does tasi sleep?

Having trouble with the first team

[proper orchid]

Position three isn’t the problem, Antandra is usually the second to last alive. If I can pick off one of the athalias izold wins but they always ult one after the other before he gets a kill

[summer cedar]

if u have the winning formation, ezizh and athalia are retry hell. so just pray for rng. gl

[summer cedar]

who is silvina diving?

[proper orchid]

Rowan

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/kings_tower.php?floor=375 maybe try one of these. I'm 99% sure I frontlined daimon for this one bc my izold wasn't done yet but i dont have my exact lineup

[shut glacier]

@somber pawn I am stucked at the same stage32-56 now. First team can be done using +30 Thoran, the 3rd team can be done using Arthur Daimon Ainz but I cannot make it the second team both my Izold and Eiron don't make it. So I am waiting for Lucreti a Mercenary to clear the second team

[fickle thistle]

What other heroes do you have?

[shut glacier]

But the second team is a real hell. +30 9/9Eiron cannot make it. Izold cannot either

[noble sky]

Vedam keeps on surviving till the end life leeches and then kills all my hero’s

[shut glacier]

@noble sky Gwyneth not good until level 241+. Farael not good until level 221+. Use Belinda and Daimon as carries. Use Arden to Control.

[vapid field]

Help?

[shut glacier]

@vapid field remove Rowan and add Tasi

[vapid field]

My tasi just gets one-shot by Silv unfortunately.

[proper orchid]

Literally the first one worked thx

[somber pawn]

I dont even understand how you can be so far in the campaign level 315 lol, I'm 25 levels up and struggling on this one

[noble sky]

Ok thanks

[shut glacier]

@somber pawn I saw another one at 33-17 lv 315 too hahaha 💩... My Thoran already made it 1st stage, and the 3rd I cleared it as u see..... But the second one I am waiting for a Mercenary Lucretia. It is dam difficult here 32-56

[tender salmon]

Am I too weak to go any further for now you think? If not im open to formations wanna get to and beat 11-40 before Daimon trial goes away

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Brutus - Front row;
Daimon, Rowan , Arden(bottom placement) - Back row;

[pale kettle]

They nearly oneshot my Tanks, and i make no dmg, what can i do ?

Pretty clueless on how to get past this. Sending hero pool in a sec

[pale monolith]

Izold, Hogan - Front row;
Daimon, Rowan, Ferael - Back row;

[pale kettle]

I will try it out, thanks! :)

What can i do ?

Equip and all Heros at End

[pale monolith]

Instead of Belinda Ferael,also make sure to put Dura's Call only on Shemira

[pale kettle]

Dont have ferael

[pale monolith]

Arden maybe?For the stuns

[small mesa]

What should I do 😟

[slender scroll]

How to beat this

Maybe bump iodized to l+?

[maiden marsh]

Bump daimon to +20 and stop spreading fodder thin is my answer

[slender scroll]

He is almost +20

[empty ibex]

Every single comp i tried failed miserably. Best attempt was with this comp (tried Brutus instead of Talene and ended up the same) leaving Grezhul, Shemira, Niru and Ferael alive and full hp except Grezhul with half hp(yes, that's my best attempt). By the time Isabella is dead every other enemy hero has their ult and every single one of my tanks are already dead. Any ideas?

[lusty osprey]

I'm not even coming close to beating this level. Any suggestions on what to do?

[chilly mortar]

cant beat not sure to place talene ezio or Lyca

[final steeple]

Hi! I’m still pretty new to AFK; I’ve read a bunch of guides, but still feel like I don’t know what I’m doing haha. I usually get stuck every 2 stages, and have to reorganize a formation and try 4 versions before I clear and get stuck 2 more stages later. (A lot of the guides seem to imply you can get really far a few days in; I’m 1 week in and feel very behind)

[coarse cradle]

Did you read the guide linked in the pins in #classic-questions ? That’s relatively up to date. You can merge all your blue heroes and ascend fodder tier heroes (Mirael, arden etc)

[final steeple]

Yep! I wasn’t sure if I should be feeding my fodder into Mirael, or resetting Wu Kong and dumping levels into someone else, or if I’m just not supporting the right Carry with the right characters?

[coarse cradle]

Feed fodder into Mirael and then move levels to her from Wu kong and use as carry. You can still use Wu Kong as a tank

[dull onyx]

Newbie looking for advice. What should my line up be (including resets if needed)

I was told to max Wu until I can make Mirael 100

[pale kettle]

@dull onyx

Red
Yellow/green
Red/green

Formation

[rancid saffron]

Complete newb here, do I have anything that can work together well? Currently seem to be having sort of success with daimon, izold, numisu, silas and rosaline, but really I'm just poking at things blindly. Would appreciate some guidance, hope this is the right place to post

I'm currently at 7-36 in the campaign, can't get past that with my current efforts, can probably push further once I get max lvl on everyone but I'm more looking at if I have some synergy in my available heroes that I'm not aware of and could utilize to push

[past urchin]

Read the messages pinned in #classic-questions
They will help you a ton.

[rancid saffron]

oh, will do that then, thanks

[exotic crater]

you should be switching over to mirael as carry - she's good up to 160.
carries should also be 20/40 levels above others. reset daimon and wukong and put their resources into fodder heroes such as arden
if you haven't already, do read the pinned guides at #classic-questions , esp the first one by Tree3 (click pin icon, swipe left/right if on mobile)

[wheat scarab]

I require some help here. I have no idea why they deal so much damage to me

[rancid saffron]

@exotic crater yeah I'm currently looking over the pins, when you say good up to 160 do you mean they can carry you through 160 lvl enemies in the campaign, or they are good until they hit 160?

[past urchin]

Thats a pretty good starting roster btw.
Overlevel your Mirael, rush her ascensions all the way to L+ and use her with Rosaline.
Use your faction scrolls on Graveborn and pray to get 3 more Daimons.
Its really a good starting roster, maybe lacking a tiny bit in tank department but its not really a biggie.
You will be fine.
@rancid saffron

[exotic crater]

good until you hit 160. it's explained in the guides.

[rancid saffron]

yeah I got the impression that I got some good pulls from just the names I've heard mentioned

aight, will get onto this thanks people, sorry for bothering :D

[past urchin]

You ascend 5 people from the pins and level them up because they are much easier obtained than ascended tier heroes.
Ascensions limit a max level a unit can have.
Elite(E) - 100
E+ - 120
Legendary(L) - 140
L+ - 160.

You ascend 5 guys from the pins, level them up and put everyone else you like using UNDER resonating crystal.
That way you bypass ascension caps.
For example, if the 5 heroes you level up are 140 and you put your E Daimon under the crystal, he will be 140 too even though its normally impossible to break 100 with E ascension.
Then by the time these L+ heroes fall off you have enough copies to ascend your better heroes to Mythic (M) and beyond and you use the 5 L+ from the pins as fodder.
1.Make sure your wishlist is set properly.
2.DONT make ascended tier heroes L if you cant make them L+ right away (4 copies).
It will hold you back.
@rancid saffron

I still need a few stages to get there myself, but afaik you DONT pull Rosaline in campaign.
Her cups likely 1 shot whatever they touch, no?
@wheat scarab

[languid pier]

what to do here

[gilded needle]

can someone help me please, maybe a allaround lineup ?

[outer escarp]

How do i finish this chapter?

[languid pier]

why so hard, pls assist with other ideas

[pale kettle]

how am i supposed to beat this, the golus is like so hard to beat, when the golus is literally like on 10% hp and he singehandedly takes out 3 of my heroes and my gorvo does like barely any damage to the nemora (the boss)

[sharp cradle]

Any help? deficit getting high

[brave oriole]

@sharp cradle Brutus and talene not necessary both. Try rosaline instead of talene, or put talene upside and lyca or so down for haste. Rowan should do well Frontline tbh, he's the best tank for ainz if no Arthur

[fossil acorn]

Ideas?

[gilded shard]

So, I've had Monkey King ascened for months now but I can't seem to see anyone talk about him

Does he have any use atm?

[exotic crater]

you should be switching over to mirael carry already; your wukong is level capped.
a standard formation at lower levels is to have mirael at position 3 (middle back) and have 2 strong tanks / frontliners in front

check the pinned guides over at #classic-questions , esp the first one by Tree3 for early game strats

[exotic crater]

generic questions over at #classic-questions , you'll get a better reply there

[pale kettle]

any tips on beating them

[pale monolith]

Got Rowan?

[pale kettle]

nope

what do i do, im trying to get rowan, haven't had him on my wishlist, im low on gems too, i got to a 1v1 but sauvs is like straight up hacking, he just starts healing like as much as nemora heals alone and does insane damage @pale monolith

[pale monolith]

You need a healer, Grovo kinda trash and who is your carrier?Belinda or Safyia

[pale kettle]

well i have lucius as a healer, and im not using gorvo anymore, i guess safiya is my carry for now

[pale monolith]

Who are you using instead of Grovo and Belinda

[pale kettle]

unsure about that, i was just trying out different heroes

i have brutus and lucius in the front right now and isabella safiya and belinda at the back @pale monolith

[pale monolith]

Semd stats of the battle

[pale kettle]

like stats as in just a screenshot of their power or like winning formations stats? @pale monolith

@pale monolith

[pale monolith]

This

[amber halo]

dude this sht is too satisfying. - khasos nice try https://vimeo.com/526906218

[worn pilot]

Please help me with this stage.

[languid pier]

maybe try
eironn

skregg
rowan
brutus
lyca

@worn pilot

[worn pilot]

Thanks, but it goes much better with Joker

[vital torrent]

Any clues? Have tried most

[dull trellis]

How to position eironn?

[distant plume]

Wanted to press to chapter 26, but can't get past this stage, what do I use?

[marsh nymph]

help pls

[wispy tartan]

i used this,couple higher levels than you tho

[atomic pond]

Oscar, Rigby, estrida, hendrink, fawkes, what is their order of priority

[pale kettle]

Need help with a lineup, currently stuck and got the game a week ago. Please explain as well, I would like to learn

[pale kettle]

I've been stuck for some time now. I am not sure if I should level a carry 20 levels above the others, or level all 5 to 100?

[summer cedar]

brutus rowan daimon tasi lyca or something like that

[summer cedar]

eironn pulling rosa is suicide. i dont really see what vurk or gwyn are doing there. try the site

[brittle zinc]

Biggest issue I see is team comp

When you don't have the investment in the game to pump summons, get better loot early, etc.

Having that 5 man team boost makes a huge diff

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions?

[bold meteor]

Helppp I'm hard stuck

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/the_world_tree.php?floor=278

[clever patio]

Get squad whipped

[weary trench]

Anybody give me any help?

[ebon hazel]

Ideas for anyone else able to intercept Athalia?

[faint current]

Anyone with high dodge. Ferael and Lyca are popular choices. Can also use Brutus sometimes

Don’t be lazy: whoever you choose to put opposite Athalia, swap the best gear you possibly can onto them.

[low bridge]

Can someone help? I cant share the screenshots in Discord for some reason

[reef drum]

Hey, what hero should I focus whith the hero's choice pls?
I thought about daimon or ferael

[pale kettle]

I need help getting on track with the optimal progression. Made some mistakes with some A heroes and not leveling fodder (just read the guides 😬). Currently I’m stuck at chapter 10-18.

[low bridge]

Can someone please help me out here?

[pale monolith]

Your line-up is a mess
Lyca

Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

[low bridge]

https://streamable.com/wyrdzz @pale monolith

[pale monolith]

I'm not really aware of how Daimon works since I never used him, maybe try an Ainz?

If you put Dura's Call on Ainz only you might get an ult

@low bridge What's the outcome?

[low bridge]

Still not working after some retries. My Ainz is top weak as well @pale monolith

[pale monolith]

Wdym, he's one of the strongest carriers

You got SI right?

[low bridge]

Hahaha yes but I have no furniture and high SI on him

My Daimon is only +20

[pale monolith]

+20 Is good for lvl 20

Ferael doing the damage?

Or Niru

[low bridge]

Mostly Ferael. I think your comp is good but needs more retries. Imma gonna leave it on with autoclicker

[pale monolith]

Another Ferael countres the enemy Ferael. I noticed that Ferael uses his Fear ability the quickest when in the middle but Rowan is there so you might want to try instead of Lyca tho only 1 in 5-10 tries your Ferael will stun first. Also maybe a Lorsan can help?

[low bridge]

Ill give it a shot thanks!

[pale monolith]

👍

[warm flare]

Who can help? Im new player need help for my team , what is the best comp?

[grand perch]

Hello @warm flare,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[pale monolith]

Don't listen to Dyno he is lying

[pale kettle]

Team for that please? Somebody answer pls. I’m noob :(

[pale monolith]

In terms of tanks you have no tanks
Try using the giftcodes to get a bit more heros( Search in YT: Volkin Codes) then send a picture of your heros. Also you might eant to read the pins in #questions

[pale kettle]

I alr used most of codes

But ok maybe i find new codes.

[pale monolith]

Impossible to get so little heros

[small mesa]

How do I kill this mezoth?? It takes like no damage at all 😣

[fast anvil]

reset belinda to level 200, raise daimon to level 220, and replace belinda on your main team with a support like rowan. you should be able to push at least 2x power deficit with an ascended daimon, and probably more than that after he gets SI 20

[pale kettle]

@pale monolith

Nah no, i was used all codes

[faint current]

What relics do you have?

[fast anvil]

try using rowan instead of pippa, and move saurus down because mezoth is gonna stunlock him. you want saurus to get 5 stacks to buff your whole team

[small mesa]

Well I have the relic that greatly reduces all enemy’s health at the beginning that’s all the damage I got to do to him

[pale kettle]

@pale monolith you here?

[small mesa]

ok I’ll try that ty

[faint current]

Mezoth is tankiest at the start of the fight so most of the time you’ll end up killing him last

[pale monolith]

Make Belinda your carry and get rid of Safyia and Vurk. Front row - Tasi, Ghezul
Back row - Belinda, Arden, Oden

[fast anvil]

this relic kinda sucks if you don't have uber burst (killing all enemies within 10 seconds) because the enemies will heal a shitton over time

[faint current]

I almost never choose that relic

[small mesa]

Oh well I finally killed them just now after a lot of retrying ty

[pale kettle]

What mean make belinda carry?

[pale monolith]

Carry = Hero that deals the damage

[pale kettle]

Any advice?

[lusty osprey]

I'm not even coming close to beating this level. Any suggestions on what to do?

[pale kettle]

Still cant

[ebon hazel]

Gwen or Daimon for this stage?

[summer cedar]

nemo position 4

[summer cedar]

belongs in #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

what are you asking? if you've read the pins in #classic-questions you should know what to do next.

[summer cedar]

brutus lucius arden mirael rosa perhaps. read the pins in #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions. lvl 100 wu

[summer cedar]

daimon over saurus. play around with formation

[ebon hazel]

Bob doing gods work.

even though all of it just links to questions

[summer cedar]

daimon pushes high deficits better, why are those your only options?

[ebon hazel]

Only two I have properly invested in.

[summer cedar]

right supports around them matter too. show box

[summer cedar]

am I wrong tho? if it aint broke...

[summer cedar]

arthur rowan fera daimon lyca(fully geared). if lyca dies too fast brutus instead.

[ebon hazel]

Lyca intercept?

[summer cedar]

idk what u mean by intercept but she should dodge athalia's first hit

[ebon hazel]

Be the one to get smacked by Athalia yes.

Like this?

[summer cedar]

indeed. fera will rng interrupt lucius which would otherwise prevent a daimon kill.

alternatively u can try brutus arthur daimon rowan fera but that gets awkward if lucius procs. in this case, fera gets the gear.

[ebon hazel]

And between Lucretia Ainz and Fareal, who's SI should I get +10 first?

[vapid field]

Help pls

[remote umbra]

Any suggestions on if I need to change anything on mine if I even should?

[summer cedar]

can't speak for lucretia but fera's 10 is more useful than ainz' imo

[pale kettle]

Retried w daimon for about an hour no luck.

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=30&stage=26 daimon works and shud never take an hour at that deficit.

[pale kettle]

I'll take a look and keep trying. Never knew about that ty

[eternal ocean]

Help please

[summer cedar]

show a screenshot of your hero pool

[steep sun]

What should I do I'm very new

[pale kettle]

Eironn

[bitter cloak]

Any ideas? Thanks

[summer cedar]

perhaps arthur brutus ainz rowan albedo?

[vapid field]

@summer cedar I actually finished it/the chapter. Thank you though 🙂

[bold meteor]

My rowan is e plus...

[maiden marsh]

get daimon to +20 and hcp rowan copies to M and +30 him asap
in the meantime, run something like tasi lyca daimon numisu eironn, experiment a bit

[bold meteor]

My eirron is M I need a L plus to get it to A and my Lyca is L plus

[maiden marsh]

Those ascensions are fine for now, the issue is your team composition. Drop belinda and lucius, you have an A daimon, they're worthless to you now.

[fast anvil]

E+ supports can still be decent, especially for heroes like lyca/rowan that do something instantly at the start of battle (haste/potions). either way, resetting your belinda levels and giving them to daimon would probably be a good start. I'd make belinda level 180 and numisu level 200 and try using him tbh

[slender scroll]

How can I beat this stage

[lusty osprey]

I'm not even coming close to beating this level. Any suggestions on what to do?

[slender scroll]

@lusty osprey Garrison ainz imo

[lusty osprey]

I don't know what you mean

[slender scroll]

Google it

[lusty osprey]

This isn't abyssal?

[marsh nymph]

friends>garrison (tab on the bottom)

@lusty osprey

after u get him link him with belinda

[lusty osprey]

👍

[zealous acorn]

need help with floor 500

[summer cedar]

needs a lot of rng. barricade chalice call windbinder call

[zealous acorn]

thanks i finished it

[shut glacier]

Anyone got more screen shot of 32-60?? I looked at Afk help already

[delicate shoal]

Hello friends. I am still quite new to this game (Lvl 60) and was hoping for some help with my lineup and what I should be aiming for.

These are the heroes I have right now. I'm running Lucius frontline, and my Respen frontline because I don't have another frontline hero leveled high enough to really go on frontline. My Belinda, Rowan and Eironn are all backline.

Some of what I have looked at wilder guide wise seems to think I should look at leveling up my Tasi or my Lyca? Is what I have workable, and if not which unit should I possibly be looking to change out

[pale kettle]

New player here. Can ask which account is better (1, 2) to start off. Planning to buy the achievement package. Thanks

[empty ibex]

Absolutely nothing gets me close, Khasos/Saveas/Vurk/Numisu ult = Instant defeat no matter which hero i switch. There's no close attempt on this one. What should I do?

[still ivy]

I can’t find a way to beat more than two of them if anyone has any suggestions

[sterile dove]

Morning people :) Hard stuck here.. :/ Any big brains around?

[fast anvil]

you should link your ainz to shemira since you shouldn't be using them together

[exotic crater]

1. not really a big deal, but ppl will only refer to hero level - player level has no bearing on the game
2. unfortunately, you have fallen into some common newbie mistakes; you can refer to the pinned guides over at #classic-questions for details, esp the first one by Tree3. (click the pin icon above. swipe left/right if on mobile)
3. tasi and lyca are both great units, but shouldn't be what you're leveling / concentrating on right now.
   have a good read through the guide, and if there are any specific parts you don't understand, you can ask over at questions channel

key takeaways:

• stop making heroes to L if you don't have at least 4 copies beforehand (fodders - those with only 3 skills - are exempted from this)
• update your wishlist to the current meta (lucius and respen are not high priorities)
• try to overlevel your carry before the rest (it can go 20/40 levels higher)
• level fodder heroes up to 160, before choosing what A-tier heroes (those with 4 skills) to focus on based on what you get

[sterile dove]

Cheers for that :) Never really used Ainz, but will change that

[exotic crater]

no point in deciding which account is better since you're so early in the game. rng plays such a big factor that it'll be meaningless to speculate
a better thing to do is to make sure you're following the updated wishlist and guides (i see thane on both accs)
check the pins over at #classic-questions for details

[exotic crater]

if there's no close attempt = nothing to do except wait for levels

[sterile dove]

before u reply to me Phorcys then I figured it out lol so nvm

[exotic crater]

lol you've gone past me in campaign anyways, so i can't help XD
only good for below chapter 20

[sterile dove]

xd
been getting really lucky w summons and stuff lately lol

[pale kettle]

What? I didn’t understand anything, why u also say lvl 100

[eternal lantern]

I just have a hard time with this kind of enemy comp. Tried to move everyone around, just can't buy enough time for Shemira. Any advices?
Thanks in advance

[heavy yacht]

How would you pass this one guys

[worthy island]

lineup for KT 554?

[pale monolith]

Send stats of the battle

[heavy yacht]

Yup

[shell ocean]

Im having a hard time with this one. Any suggestions?

[exotic crater]

you'll need to counter their farael.
either by your own farael, nara with close range fighters to kill him off fast, or nemora to charm him
other than that, put eye/blade on shem, call on rowan i believe

[exotic crater]

seems rather hard since your carry is not the one at 200...
i'd try putting shem 4 and daimon 5 at the bottom side to attack through niru first, but you'll prolly need to wait for merc or levels

[exotic crater]

if your daimon can't do anything might wanna swap for tasi or smth else

[heavy yacht]

I'll give it a try but yeah, sucks about my carry not being overleveled, will getting ainz and linking to shemira to use it instead will resolve anything ?

[heavy yacht]

gave it a try but tasi = os 😦

[exotic crater]

try 1 lucius, 2 shem, 3 rosa/numisu, 4. mirael, 5 numisu/rosa

[exotic crater]

to my knowledge ainz needs quite some investment otherwise he'll get oneshot. but since you're still in the early-mid game might work.

[heavy yacht]

I was thinking about that but idk if that's worth because the stones are like hella expensive

[pale kettle]

I need help with this, this level is difficult cause of the saveas and golus mostly

[placid swift]

What's a good lineup I can make for this one considering my box and level deficit?

[pale kettle]

someone help me pls

[pale monolith]

Who's your carrier? Safyia, Belinda or Isabella. You shouldn't run 2 sub-dps

[drowsy gazelle]

@placid swift

[placid swift]

Artifacts?

[drowsy gazelle]

@native compass i forgot, u still rmb them? i believe rowan call, eironn call, ferael eye, ainz convict/blade, daimon is barricade i think

[native compass]

Daimon was call. You get barricade at later right? Maybe eironn eye. You often used book on ainz

[placid swift]

Oh I have barricade now, I don't have windbinder yet.

[amber halo]

Use nemora instead of talene and make nemora charm ferael

Help this is aids

[amber halo]

Maybe this is easier to do for you

[placid swift]

kinda don't have arthur yet, can probably get him now but I don't have the resources to build him properly yet

[amber halo]

Oh i see mine was just 2 t1 wrong faction and +20 but yeah hard if u don't have him

[amber halo]

Book on ainz is not possible before completing chapter 29

[native compass]

true, so call then

[worthy island]

Lineup for KT 554? no lucretia 😢

[faint current]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/kings_tower.php?floor=554

Have you tried this site before?

Many of the lineups used seem to be 5-pull with Izold

[worthy island]

Haven't heard of this site before, thanks so much!

[faint current]

Anytime!

[fossil dome]

Hey !

Can someone help me please?

[thorny pendant]

daimon rowan tasi eironn ferael, might take some tries though

[exotic crater]

the pinned guides over at #classic-questions will take you to 160 and more importantly teach you the basics - go there, click pin icons above; swipe left/right if on mobile
namely, use fodder heroes (those with 3 skills) for now, and over level your carry over the others (it can be 20/40 levels higher)

[fossil dome]

Okay thanks so i'm going to do Lyca Tasi Saveas Brutus Arden with Saveas lvl 120. I think i got it

Oh i don't have Elite+ Saveas or Mirael

[exotic crater]

you should be able to pull 10x or 20x every day, so it should come soon.
don't use the "smart ascend" function at the temple, do it manually; only auto ascend is ok

if you have any specific parts that you don't understand or are unclear about you can post back at #classic-questions again

[fossil dome]

I feel like i'm more stuck than before but thanks i think it will be better with saveas or mirael

[idle marlin]

Could someone help me? I just can't figure out how to beat this

[maiden marsh]

just reset belinda to 200 and pump those 40 levels into daimon. try to get him +20 asap as well

[idle marlin]

Should I link ainz to daimon then?

[maiden marsh]

for now just don't bother with him too much, he's best linked to belinda but you need the supporting cast and preferably 9F to push the same deficits as daimon

[idle marlin]

Alright, thanks

[empty ibex]

I see.... Thank you. I managed to bring it closer without levelling up, i think I found the winning comp but still needs more levels

[fair lily]

How do you deal with GB in campaign? I get stuck on these stages forever.

[slate elbow]

Pls save my soul from this vampire

[thorny pendant]

What's your top row?

[fair lily]

all borrowed our used

[ebon hazel]

So I've been doing this comp, but Fareal is fearing lucius before he sheilds. So he still gets the shield off

Is there anything I can do about that?

Or anyone else I could use to CC him?

[empty ibex]

I did it. I was just having busted bad luck every single time, didn't need to level up

[native compass]

I need ideas for this stage

[ebon hazel]

Did you try gwyn? All three in the back are stationary do maybe.

[native compass]

My Gwyn is +0 so she won't do any dmg. maybe for the CC?

She's my link to Albedo haha I can't use her .. lmao

[vernal gyro]

Any ideas? Feels so hard after the Isabella rework. 30-1

[pale kettle]

Need help with this story

[past urchin]

Tasi
Rowan
Ferael
Eironn
Daimon
@vernal gyro
Legendary weapon at best on Ferael.
If Eironn cant pull and ult take call off Daimon and give him chalice.
If he still cant pull and ult somehow - Barricade on Daimon.

[vital torrent]

trying again, can’t seem to get past this stage, no matter my lineup

[celest bloom]

@vital torrent try swapping Brutus with Saurus.
Swap Lucius for Tasi.
And Swap Fawkes for Ferael.

You want to burst down Orthos before he starts ulting. And need Tasi and Ferael to try to help cc the backline.

[safe falcon]

any tips? maybe getting Gwyneth to +20 SI

[summer cedar]

need high dodge (fawkes w gear) or rowan in position 4 or athalia probably ruins your day. yes 20 gwyn would help but don't hinder ur campaign progression to do so.

[safe falcon]

yeah athalia fist me hard

[brave oriole]

@safe falcon swap lvls just to pass a few lb towers, a few diamonds only, that if you want to progress 10 stages today at all

[safe falcon]

just bought monthly sub, fck it

[brave oriole]

@safe falcon you can just make something 240,instead of what you are having now, for this tower, then put the lvls back in your carry

[woven mason]

am I doing something wrong or gwyneth is doing no damage compared to belinda?

I m comparing those 2 because I built belinda on all other accounts and passed this stage easily with 15 levels less then this one but on this account I don t have belinda built

[tired galleon]

Hey guys,

This is all I've got for Maulers.
What lineup is best for tower? I feel like Skriath and Tidus don't synergize at all, and Skriath and Safyia together is also bad. Brutus doesn't seem too tanky, nor does he deal enough dmg.

Do I swap in Anoki and/or Skreg?
And who do I get rid of, if at all?

Only one crystal slot left.

[ivory hollow]

Newbie here. I am in Chapter 8 and the game has slowed down tremendously. I am not certain on what units I should be prioritizing, but a couple guides said I should try a wilder team, so I've been doing that with Saurus as my carry. With the listed characters, should I revamp my team at this point?

Any advise will help.

[faint current]

I just swapped from +20 3f Belinda to my freshly-built +20 0f Gwyneth, and Gwyneth is doing way, way better for me.

[distant merlin]

Stuck aaaa

[shrewd sorrel]

need some help

[pale monolith]

Saurus is never a carry. As for teams you can go with whatever . Your line-up is grest but again Saurus is not a carry. Try going with Mirael as a carty. The golden rule is to always keep carriers 40 lvls above normal heros. And don't worry about slowing down, this game is slow and for me sometimes it takes days to get past a stage

[shrewd sorrel]

so bcs of a miscount my Gwyneth is M+ so thats why all the heroes are 200....

[pale monolith]

Ffs make Ainz your carry here in the game he is SOOOOO MUCH BETTER than Gwyneth. Unlink Ainz from Shemira and link him to Saurus. Instead of Saurus try going with Thoran, he is amazing with his Signature Item. As for the line-up for this stage I'd go with
Ferael/Lorsan/Fawkes

Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Ainz

[shrewd sorrel]

okay well i cant make him carry for all game its a garrissond and ill try!

[pale monolith]

Yes you can

[pale monolith]

Ainz

Brutus
Rowan
Saurus
Ferael

[shrewd sorrel]

i dont own any of farael lorsan or fawks..

[pale monolith]

Bruh

[shrewd sorrel]

yeah haven't pulled him somehow lmao

[ivory hollow]

@pale monolith is this in response to me? If so, what comp should I be running to support mirrael?

[night sequoia]

4+30 can kiss my ass. Doesn't work. Baden Grez minions Fera and Tasi bitch take you down

[brave oriole]

@night sequoia you don't need talene there, try rowan front with arthur and ferael instead of talene

@pale kettle u can't find at suggested setups?

[tranquil fable]

Any ideas? This stage keeps steamrolling me and I just want to unlock stargazing. D:

[distant crag]

what's the best of it?

[maiden marsh]

limited dim events > dim garrisons > arthur > dim emblems > red emblems

[distant crag]

@maiden marsh i dont unterstand what you mean

[maiden marsh]

use them on limited dimensional exchanges first of all. then I would spend on ainz if you don't have him from garrison. then buy arthur until he's done, then the dim emblems that replace him

[distant crag]

Ups

I'm new to the game so I don't know what are limited me dimensions? @ Tru7h

[maiden marsh]

events that come around and offer limited-time heroes that can only be acquired afterwards through garrison, such as ainz

[distant crag]

So should I save now?

[maiden marsh]

you can earn enough for them by saving from the start of the exchange period, but it doesn't hurt to save up if you aren't sure

[distant crag]

When do these limited-time events always come?

[maiden marsh]

no clue, next one hasn't been announced yet

[distant crag]

Und wie viel kostet sowas wie aliz

I am so dump i wrote in my normal language

[maiden marsh]

around 100k labyrinth coins, 40k hero coins, 40k guild coins, 200k challenger coins

[distant crag]

@maiden marsh Do you only need 1 or all of them to buy such a hero?

[maiden marsh]

all of those. guild coins aren't an issue, hero coins aren't usually either for someone doing tavern summons, challenger and labyrinth coins can be saved up over the exchange time

[lone thunder]

Any advice? Can hire another merc if needed. Thanks

[maiden marsh]

call on the first three, grace on lyca, eye on ferael with a legendary weapon

[lone thunder]

My tasi is a bit shit she has only 10SI and no faction gear

[maiden marsh]

as long as she has t2 boots and weapon, and if you can, get her to 15SI. she's fine there for a long time

[lone thunder]

I might have to borrow a tasi for that stage. dont think I can get her SI to 15 for a bit and she has not T0 gear.

[maiden marsh]

you don't have two sets of mage gear t2? that hurts yeah

[lone thunder]

yeah only 2 months into the game 😦

[hidden condor]

Any tips?

[maiden marsh]

merc a the best fera you can is my advice

[dusky hatch]

Need help stuck on this.

[kind nest]

I am not super much into this chat. But there is a website that shows a lot of winning formations if you interested: https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[pale kettle]

can you merc an albedo +30? that would probably blast you through the stage i imagine

[dusky hatch]

Albedo not +30 I can get Alexander +30

[kind nest]

I suppose you mean Arthur. Won't help you much. Can you put Rowan frontline and Let Eironn backline to get Safiya?

[dusky hatch]

I tried that... Can't get Ainz to ult 2x

Is this the appropriate chat for stage help?

[maiden marsh]

yes

[dusky hatch]

Any other ideas?

[kind nest]

Could try the +20 albedo, to see if it makes Ainz live longer

[dusky hatch]

I tried, didn't work... Seems like I am right on the cusp.

[kind nest]

Its okay, give it a few days, then push again. Sometimes you just hit walls, where you need to be stronger, or different heroes.
Alternatively go into #mercenary and befriend someone with +30 Albedo

[dusky hatch]

OK ty

[lilac shore]

The mirael one shots my team before anyone can ultz and if I put nara in the middle Belinda 1 shots her

[pale kettle]

nara isn't getting pull off on mirael before dying?

[summer cedar]

estrilda with belinda is actually an annoying combo as the frontliner gets knocked back and bel's aoe will often hit the backliners too

[summer cedar]

perhaps talene brutus lyca rowan daimon? bit of a tough one w that roster

[warm crypt]

Anyone have a good team for Kren? Want to put him together with units that can push the opponents in to the mines. Have to slowly start working on it.

[safe falcon]

you guys think there is a chance or just gotta wait?

[slate elbow]

I need some help here am I underleveled or is this stage actually possible with my team cause I have rerolled many times the closest is when daimion and vampire 1v1 but i lose the 1v1 cause daimion has lower hp also which should I use taisi or Arden ive been testing both

I just got a run where I had Arden succumbus and daimion alive daimion with full hp but i lost to 1 vampire Bruh

[languid reef]

I need to know who i should level up in order to progress decently

[pale kettle]

How do people deal with Athalia?

[onyx ridge]

Any help? I been stuck for like 3 days :(

[fast anvil]

if you have good enough t1/t2 gear, you can dodgetank athalia with some agi/int heroes like ferael/rowan (bonus points for vurk since if he dodges he can stun athalia with trap). if you don't have dodge gear yet, you can try some immunity stallers like brutus/thoran and sometimes talene

[fast anvil]

need to get albedo's SI up asap to make the dimensionals a lot tankier. maybe try swapping arthur/brutus since arthur doesn't like getting knocked back? belinda might do too much damage though... also if you're having trouble surviving, maybe swap rosaline for a support with CC? might help you survive to 24 seconds if that's not already happening

[vagrant ibex]

@onyx ridge albedo ,arthur ,lyca rowan ainz

[valid mantle]

I’m stuck on stage 9-20

[pale monolith]

Rowan isn't a tank yet. Mehira will be useless. Try putting Rowan where Mehira is and finding a new tank

[pale monolith]

Izold, Saurus - Front row;
Daimon, Numisu, Lyca - Back row;

[valid mantle]

Thx

[ruby gulch]

Am I just doomed or can I power through this?

[wet meadow]

I can't do this one

[pale monolith]

Belinda

Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Ferael

[amber halo]

Ainz 8/9 albedo 2/9 please help this level is annoying as fk

[short zephyr]

Ainz should always be behind Arthur I think for crit bonus , u could try to swap out Rowan for Joker

[amber halo]

Ainz is already behind arthur what do you mean? xD joker does nothing for me he is not geared either

[short zephyr]

The screenshot that you send ... Ainz is behind Albedo , but anyway your Ainz and Albedo are infinitely close to their furniture powerspike , i'd reckon the stage will be a breeze once you acquire those

[somber flax]

how to win under 15 second in this ?

my rooster

[short zephyr]

I think you could try to use Fawkes to manually remove the shield from Brutus

[somber flax]

damn, i never play manual, always auto

[pale monolith]

L Fawkes will die instantly

[short zephyr]

Yea I always play auto too 😂

[amber halo]

I mean rowan ferael and ainz is behind arthur? And alright

[pale monolith]

Add a Lyca and that's Ainz comp

[short zephyr]

Rowan and Fereal are considered behind Arthur , while Ainz in that position isn't , atleast I think thats how it works

[kind nest]

You'd want Arthur in front of Ainz to buff Ainz with crit etc.

[loud kraken]

Not only crit, you'd want him to force Ainz to AA faster = more quickly will he obtain energy for the doomsday. Do note if your Arthur was at +30 Warek couldn't CC him or anyone else.

[inland niche]

Hi all. So I can hire an Ainz. It'll take all my challenger coins, guild coins and a few lab coins. I can only link him to a m+ though as I have no ascended heros. So no furniture etc. Is it worth it? Will he still be powerful enough?

[amber halo]

Yeah u right and lol i underestimated joker he's sick when ferael is there

[olive void]

You better keep your resources for heroes like Arthur and Ezizh. Ainz will not be as effective at the point in the game as you are now

[inland niche]

That's my thinking. Cheers @olive void 👍

[amber halo]

His true potential comes when he's +30 and albedo +30 too and arthur helps so much too. I used him at mythic and it's ok in campaign but not op