lineup-help

[pale kettle]

Am I still early game?

like he may as well get ulmus to A since hes already put all the fodder into him

[exotic crater]

nope. early game up to 160

[small mesa]

Oh that’s cool lol I just randomly thought of it myself when it happened on accident once

[pale kettle]

Nooooothinggggg woooorkssssss

I might just give up

[maiden marsh]

yes

[pale kettle]

It is not worth my time anymore

[tender jay]

What can i do better to pass this floor

[languid pier]

any big brain advice around?

[past oxide]

Show me ur heros

[warm swan]

@languid pier Don't you want Ainz to get Rowan's energy potion first?

[languid pier]

it was a random #4322 combination in hopes of magic 😛 no thought went into it

[languid pier]

nope no bueno

[warm swan]

Ask Q or Tru7h if you see them lurking around. They should be close to your campaign.

[summer cedar]

if ur rowan is geared, swap brutus and rowan

[languid pier]

ty, moment

nope he weak boi even with chalice cant survive, he only missing 2 faction bonus :\

[maiden marsh]

Do ya got a thoran?

[languid pier]

no

[maiden marsh]

Ask Q then, he used trash goblin here

Hey @drowsy gazelle give ned here your 30-49 comp

[drowsy gazelle]

i dint save?

[languid pier]

sadge

[drowsy gazelle]

u also dint save did u, @maiden marsh

[maiden marsh]

I cheesed that shit 99% chance

[drowsy gazelle]

if im not wrong, i used
ainz

brutus or something, tanks
rowan/ferael
ferael/rowan
daimon

i cant really remember what shit i used, just try throwing random garbage around and it will works

[maiden marsh]

@languid pier ^^^

[languid pier]

ty ty on it

[drowsy gazelle]

i rmb removing ferael weapon btw

[languid pier]

got it with this one, ty ty now onto next one 😛
chapter 31 today hopefully!

whats the last stage, who should i merc in advance?

[maiden marsh]

last stage is mehira, if you don't have ascended nara, you'll need to merc that

[languid pier]

ty 🙂

[weary trench]

Anyone got a brain blast for me?

[languid pier]

^ perhaps lucius instead of daemon? idk x)

just try throwing random garbage around and it will works

is best advice

[drowsy gazelle]

thats what i did for the entirety of chap30 anyway. you can ask truth lol

[languid pier]

every stage except perhaps 29-60 😛

[exotic crater]

i'd personally wait mirael in centre to maximise aoe dmg, since rowan doesn't have replenish potions yet, and not sure if he can survive that long
but if not lacking in dmg. then lucius provides good tanking and also heals so he'd be goodd to put in as well

[weary trench]

Lucius has trouble getting shield up because they're graveborns and Niru snowballs really bad and poodoos good runs

[exotic crater]

if you wanna cheese, the easiest way is to reset someone, max level daimon now, push hard with him, then reset him later.
other than that, it's just gonna take a bit of trial & error, rng, and time

[weary trench]

Well, the cheese worked

[mossy perch]

I know I should be able to pass this level wise but im stuck. I used all the comps from afk helper but none worked so far. Any ideas?

[languid pier]

what now bruvs

nara is a must isnt she

why does this exist.. :\

[drowsy gazelle]

U have no more mercs? Dint the merc resets today

[languid pier]

I have I have, everyone offline tho :^)

[drowsy gazelle]

Then wait abit? 1-2 day delay in completing it doesnt really matter

[languid pier]

absolutely 🙂 ✌️

[devout cedar]

Sorry for the interruption, but do u have anything that helps here?

[languid pier]

sorry for not really helping but you should absolutely stop making L heroes, you'll brick your account - find a begginer guide asap so you dont make any more mistakes

[devout cedar]

Oh, alright then, thank you anyways

[exotic crater]

do what ned says, you can find more guides in the pinned sections at both here and at #classic-questions (click pin icons, read the guides - i'd start with questions channel first then come here for the rest of the guides)

for your current battle, you'd need a farael, nemora, or nara to counter their farael. i'd also try to kill their niru asap as niru is weaker early and gets stronger as the fights go on (feeds off dead allies/enemies)

unfortunately you have already invested in some of the weaker heroes, so just be extra patient

[ember rune]

Need help

[pale monolith]

Shemira and Belinda are goinf to fall off soon so that's why you are struggling. I suggest looking for a new carrier, maybe Daimon if you have enough copies?

[stuck trellis]

here was my 32-60 clear

[jagged pike]

I think if you place lucius frontline and replace rowan for eluard you can do it

[proven magnet]

How to counter heavy healer packs?

[jagged pike]

Are you trying eironn comp

I dont think eironn will last long does he?

If he dosent i recomend replacing him with rosaline and placing tasi frontline assuming she dosent die instantly

[proven magnet]

Oh i just screenshotted this with eironn as i was trying out randoms lol

[jagged pike]

Ah

[proven magnet]

Tasi gets dropped first and quickly

[jagged pike]

I was hoping she was going to teleport out and heal after taking damage does she contribute to ur team in backline?

If she doesn't you might have to drop her for talene

[proven magnet]

I tried this. They withheld abit longer but slowly dies one by one

My team

[jagged pike]

Oh

Daimon isnt a very good tank

I know it isnt that good of advice but messing around with formations helps or at least for me

[proven magnet]

Yeah i tried for the last 30 mins haha 😦

[jagged pike]

Can you try this formation

[proven magnet]

Still not working for me

[jagged pike]

I dont know a lot of help i can do can you mercanary?

[proven magnet]

I used it up for 20-30 this morning lol

Im out of mercs 😦
Maybe im underleveled?

[jagged pike]

Do you have a guildmate that has passed that

[proven magnet]

Yeah i think so

[jagged pike]

Ask them they can give more help than me also if ur gonna level up someone do it to rowan

[proven magnet]

Will do. Thanks alot. Much appreciated 👍🏼

[jagged pike]

Also place dura's call on Rowan if you haven't already

[proven magnet]

Yesss!!! Done it with the dura’s call on rowan hahaha thanks brooo

[jagged pike]

I just meant that as a tip but it was more than that

[proven magnet]

[pale kettle]

What should I focus on? To progress on campaign?

[pale kettle]

Ainz
Brutus
Rosa/Tasi
Talene
Lucius/Tasi

Try this maybe

You can also take Ainz out and use Belinda instead, I just realized his sig is still rather low

[gusty moss]

i replaced talene with queen and rosa with talene and it worked

[pale kettle]

Oh, alrighty then. Good job

[gusty moss]

they all insta die always

[jagged pike]

Daimon eironn and fereal use wu kong as ur current carry though

There are many other characters you can focus on too

For example lyca safyia rosaline and rowan

And many more

Rowan is the best out of all of them

It depends where you are but mieral and saveas are good

Just a tip: never use ascendable heroes as fodder

And dont stock up on legendarys its a waste of fodder

You can go to #545929173471068170 for ascension help

[pale kettle]

Idk

What do youthink @jagged pike ?

Ascenable heroes, are the natural epic?

[jagged pike]

Very good formation where you are at

[jagged pike]

Ascendable heroes can only come in elites so yes if you want more info go to portraits

There are 3 roles ascended tier legendary tier and common

[pale kettle]

I justo got Lyca, maybe if I get tasi I switch the graveborn?

[jagged pike]

Im not good at deciding so id say do what you want to do

[jagged pike]

Frontline: brutus tasi
Backline: merial rowan lyca (place her on crystal)

[pale kettle]

They survive all 5 lmaoo

[jagged pike]

Does tasi die instantly

[pale kettle]

She use banish and dies like 4sec later

[jagged pike]

So she isnt that usefull AAAAH why does this happen so much

[pale kettle]

Her Ult charge time isn't even worth running her
My team dies most of the time amd then she ults

[jagged pike]

Can you reset hogan for daimon

[dark wind]

Any suggestions on killing all of em in 15 sec ?

[jagged pike]

Is that misty valley?

[dark wind]

The brutus is a pain 😅, yes

[jagged pike]

Daimon instead of lorsan?

[dark wind]

Also this if u know some nich ways

Lorsan for burst ? Maybe change rowan, if only i had a spot for safia

[jagged pike]

Rowan is quite useful

[dark wind]

But for bursting wont help

If only i can show u a replay

[jagged pike]

Is lyca for haste

[dark wind]

Yeah

109 sec needs to be 115 or lower

...

[jagged pike]

That tough

Can you mercanary a sig. 30 ains

[dark wind]

That brutus f it

I think ainz will take long to ranp up and if it dose kill everyone there is brutus

Best one but idk how people get under 15 sec

[jagged pike]

Maybe twins and ainz? You may be able to drop lyca and go for rosaline

Hopefully twins can ult fast

[jagged pike]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

[dark wind]

Lets see of my own eiron works

[jagged pike]

Actually with haste ur sauras is good and ive realised you cannot mercanary 2 heroes at the same time

[dark wind]

Btw i ahd 1:14 past 5 runs but twinz r better then daimon

Yow the rain did it

On the dot xD

[jagged pike]

I had terrible advice

I thought raine was only usefull with guild bosses

[dark wind]

No worries at least u gave me insights

Rain is actully prity good now

With aniz and other comps, because of the furniture

[exotic crater]

1. you'd want to get past your current level cap asap. you have enough fodder to ascend to L (it's ok to L for fodder heroes only).
   prioritise your carry first - not sure if you're using savaes or mirael - 121 esp should be a good dmg boost.
2. a good core to keep is brutus + rowan + carry
   for this stage, you'd want to also have either arden, nemora, or farael to cc the enemy vedan (just beware it's rng based, and also their enemy nemora can charm you! it will take few retries to have everything go well)
   the last spot can go to any number of heroes. e.g. if you're using mirael then perhaps a beefy tank would be nice.

lastly, semi-related advice is to reset your brutus after this and put the levels into a fodder hero such as silvina - notice how you can't progress in levels due to the cap and not having enough copies of brutus

[pale kettle]

Can i use oscar to ascend mirael. I only have 1 elite+ copy of him

[pale monolith]

I don't see any use to Iscar so you can use A tier heros as fodder

[pale kettle]

I need help getting past this level

whatever i try seems to fail, i even tried filling my team with lightbearers since they are strong against maulers, it didn't work

[warm swan]

You can prolly reset that Gwyn and Saurus and pour all that lvls to your Saf (assuming she is your carry). And give her blade

[vital pine]

Is there any way?

[safe falcon]

any tips?

[maiden marsh]

Understand that if you recklessly feed A tier heroes, you run the risk of bad ones being reworked, or even being crystal capped due to lack of A heroes later on. Any A tier foddering should be carefully considered and risk analyzed. Rule of thumb: if you need to ask if it's ok to feed an A tier hero, just don't.

[split ivy]

Any suggestions?

tasi banishes Ira, and there was one time where after banishing Ira she banished Athalia.

[pale kettle]

Understand that it is my only chance to progress further in early game there wasn't any other solution to escape the lv cap and oscar is literally useless anyways

[maiden marsh]

The other solution is to wait literally a few days for fodder. And oscar may become useful with a rework, if you bothered to read my message.

[marsh nymph]

suggestions?

[pale kettle]

I have 20 other even better chars than him so i rly dont care

[maiden marsh]

Your funeral.

[lofty gust]

Is this even possible at my level 🙄

[maiden marsh]

If you can start the battle it's possible

[glacial wagon]

@pale kettle come to #lineup-help and take no help, kinda dumb ngl dw you're not the first to do so though.

[pale kettle]

??????? Wtf are u speaking

[glacial wagon]

I'm speaking to someone who disregarded advice given to them.

[pale kettle]

I hope ppl bully u for a little mistake as of ur breathing

[marsh nymph]

try replacing eironn with rowan, and also rowan should be 30si first, so if ur not working on that alr, start now

[lofty gust]

+26

[maiden marsh]

What on earth are you talking about

[pale kettle]

U guys are so low and toxic

[glacial wagon]

[maiden marsh]

[pale kettle]

Look his pfp cuphead lmao

[glacial wagon]

I'm the only one being toxic lmao those other guys genuinely tried to help you

[pale kettle]

He no lifes this game hes insane im sry bro

[marsh nymph]

@lofty gust rowan, brutus, eironn, daimon, and lyca

[lofty gust]

Are u pissed because u are stuck at a stage ? this isn't the place to release frustration

[marsh nymph]

Try that, chalice on rowan also @lofty gust

[maiden marsh]

[glacial wagon]

yes me "no lifing this game" is the reason you cant take simple advice. You hate to see it

[wispy tartan]

That's one punch man, not cuphead smh

[marsh nymph]

disrespecting opm

[maiden marsh]

I was wondering who they were calling cuphead smh my head

[glacial wagon]

talking about me

[marsh nymph]

is chalice on rowan?

[wispy tartan]

Oh I thought that was supposed to be garfield lmao

[maiden marsh]

[lofty gust]

Yeah Chalice + T1 faction boots

[noble sky]

Any suggestions? I just started playing today

[lofty gust]

Warek throws him off before pull

[glacial wagon]

@noble sky ngl its really early game so leveling could simply solve your issue

[maiden marsh]

Best thing to do for yourself is take a readthrough of the first two guides pinned in #classic-questions

[noble sky]

Ok

[marsh nymph]

maybe wait a bit or retry for a while. Like staring his boots or t2ing it.

[lofty gust]

Let me retry 40-50times ill get bak

[lofty gust]

5star but no t2 stone

[marsh nymph]

I see, keep working on his boots and eironn A.

[lofty gust]

ggwp done Thanks 32nd try

[lofty gust]

Eironn 1 copy short

Just swapped chalice with call.. rowan ultied and cc'ed

[split ivy]

So, uh, any help?

[safe falcon]

this lineup defeat it

[weary trench]

Who should I trial so I can push further in Campaign?

[simple breach]

Any suggestions?

[pale kettle]

listen i am back and i cleared ch9 with saveas and mirael in same comp

and that mirael dmg was so clutch it was worth foddering oscar i swear,and i foddered oscar like before advice stuff so u were literally attacking me

@glacial wagon

[glacial wagon]

Fun Fact: You can literally use just about any character in chap 9 and it'll work. It's chapter 9 but you'll understand sooner or later that you don't just fodder characters off a whim especially for a character whose max level is 160

[pale kettle]

bro but ch9 was rly hard vedan ult was so clutch and niru just healed insanely

i was like 160k vs 220k

started playing few days ago

Could use some advice

[maiden marsh]

definitely didn't need to fodder oscar to beat chapter 9 but you don't seem to be asking for advice anymore so good for you

[pale kettle]

i guess it was a beginners mistake but it felt so good xd sorry for flaming yall

[unkempt merlin]

I'm stuck and need advice

[woven lagoon]

What are you using currently

[pale kettle]

Please help me beat this

[unkempt merlin]

@woven lagoon I'm using manly Joker Lucius Rowan Brutus and Tasi

[pale kettle]

How do I beat this? Not even mercenaries help me :(

[neon nova]

try cc-ing the fareal, merc a nara or athalia

[pale kettle]

I'll try that, thx

[warm ocean]

29-12 help

[safe falcon]

Is this some sort of power check thingy? hyperduper cc

[chilly rampart]

Can you help me with my lineup I can’t pass this level

[narrow lark]

Tasi, Rowan
Lyca, Eironn, Safiya

Takes some rng but with your level it should work pretty easily

[simple breach]

Ideas?

[junior temple]

I’m stuckkkk.... none of my combos are working... my SIs are low 😭

[pale kettle]

anyone have any idea for floor 100 of LB tower?

[distant merlin]

Need help. Seems you guys are the master strategists here since you guys come up with stuff i would’ve never found out and without even testing plus not even knowing the builds i have

[velvet belfry]

give up on shemira and start building saurus or daimon. in the meantime

Shemira

Rowan
Arden/Rosa
Lyca
Nara

[near pond]

Need anything to counter Athalia somehow. Any ideas?

[maiden marsh]

do you have merc available?

[near pond]

@maiden marsh oh i totally forgot about that! I haven't used them in a while as i didn't had a need for. What should I Merc?

[maiden marsh]

try rowan, brutus, merc ferael, daimon, lyca

[near pond]

@maiden marsh did not even need to Merc him. Used my E feral and the setup like you said and after 5 tries with new setup i got it down. Thanks! Welp time to start Chap 25 i guess

[weary trench]

Could I merc somebody to make this possible?

[white sky]

Alna or Luc?

[weary trench]

That being Lucretia? Where would I stick her in my formation?

[twin socket]

I just need a lineup

[proper lodge]

I need some help figuring out a team for this one

[glossy kayak]

Whose better the twins Rowan or numisu

[thorny pendant]

daimon rowan tasi eironn ferael and luck

[proper lodge]

Thanks ^_^

[drowsy gazelle]

check out afkhelper on google, various clears by various people using various comp

[ashen dragon]

What should my lineup be? Who should I be focusing my general resources on. Don't plan on getting many new heroes in the near future. The cursor hero is a 56 lucius

[wary cedar]

Any ideas??

[silent epoch]

Hi. Since I'll be finished on my beginners progress,I'd like to ask what would be my next step? My main carry is Joker :) Thanks in advance.

[thorny pendant]

Do you have Rowan on your wishlist?

[silent epoch]

Yes but sadly, I wasn't able to pull him. Stupid me getting WuKong on that last chest where i should've picked Rowan still haunts me.

[past urchin]

You'll need a better carry soon @silent epoch
Id scroll GB heavily.
If you can get 2 more Daimons, you're set til ch 23 or so.
Possibly further, but you will need Rowan at some point else your Daimon will have a hard time ramping up.

[distant crag]

@ashen dragon you are very lucky with your heroes that you have them

[silent epoch]

Hmmm.. I think the new event will have 2 copies of Daimon. Would it be a good investment for me since im still early in the game?

[past urchin]

I know nothing about new events 😅 , sorry.

[silent epoch]

Just saw it earlier on Reddit lol

[past urchin]

Ah this kind of event.
Well regular heroes are always bad value in those.
The best thing you can exchange for usually is red emblem stones.

[silent epoch]

Ohh i see. Guess I'll make do with what i have for now. :) My plan would be:

Make Belinda to M then link her to Joker and level to 180
Make Ferael M then all other units to 160

Would that be good?

[drowsy locust]

i believe you will not be able to get two copies anyway as f2p

[fossil acorn]

Need help clearing this stage. Been stuck here for more than I thought I would be

[rain vigil]

Hey guys i need help plz

[pale monolith]

Daimon

Brutus/Hogan
Rowan
Tasi
Arden

[pale monolith]

Go ahead

[rain vigil]

What is the best line for it?

[pale monolith]

I guess Ferael is wrecking your team

[rain vigil]

Yeah right she kill all with Löw hp

[pale monolith]

He is a dude but he can be quite annoying. Another Ferael can counter the enemy Ferael but I've noticed that Ferael uses the "Fear" ability the quickest when in the middle so that would be the ideal place. What is your current line-up?

[dire plover]

Any suggestions on how to proceed or what could be improved? Apart from levelling up obviously XD

[fossil acorn]

thx, but didn't really understand what you meant

[pale monolith]

Rowan isn't a tank yet. Put Tasi front row and Rowan mid back row

[rain vigil]

Front Brutus and lucius
Back
Rosa
Shemira (ainz from friend)
Cecilia/than... Idk which from both is better

[split oar]

@pale monolith i think its the first time in the last 4 chapters that rowan worked better in backline rather than frontline. thx

@pale monolith what about this? Brutus comps always fuck me up

[pale monolith]

Looks good @split oar

[pale monolith]

Instead of Ceclia pur Ferael and hope for some good RNG

[rain vigil]

And the other are good... And should i take ainz?

[pale monolith]

No,don't merc except if you are absolutely stuck

[rain vigil]

Thx

[pale monolith]

No problem

[jagged pike]

Take the blues off crystal and reset hogan for izold (i guess place hogan on crystal)

I don't know if hogan is good or not where you are

Also put auto reset on greens

And reset the people you arent using like Arden and mirael though both are good they're squishes

[lucid trench]

Plz help nothing works and I have no idea how im gonna do all 20 floors

[empty ibex]

I got invincible Shemira issues here. Everyone dies but Shemira is at full hp every single time. Right when every enemy hero is down she Ults and crits everyone immediately + heals back to full. What can I do?

[lucid trench]

Idk man I cant help im waiting for help myself

[normal carbon]

Someone pls tell me how to combat mehira bc she's abt to cause me a stroke

[maiden marsh]

nara with call across from her

[empty ibex]

Athalia and Nara work well against her

[exotic crater]

are you able to get a faster clear if you swap daimon and mirael positions

[empty ibex]

This comp is the one that has got me the "closest". Fawkes takes Shemira out temporarily, the rest is pure RNG. The closest I've been was leaving Vurk half hp and Shemira at 1 hp, but that was it even with really good RNG

[exotic crater]

just to clarify, have you tried with mirael at top side (position3)?
it's more efficient than bottom side because of the +25% faction dmg advantage

[fickle dove]

Anyone got an idea about this? Estrilda and grezhul just cc lock anyone who's in front till they die

[empty ibex]

Don't worry, somehow Thoran and Daimon trapped both Shemira and Vurk and won, literally best case scenario. Thank you!

[exotic crater]

that's great to hear, congrats

[past urchin]

Drop Lyca.
She isnt doing much in this comp.
Try Tasi or some other crowd control heavy hero.
@fickle dove

[fickle dove]

Oh wait, I thought I took the pic with Talene instead of lyca

I realised after one try that lyca is p pointless. I'll try tasi, she doesn't seem to banish anyone though when I've used her before?

[gusty moss]

Hard stuck lol

[marsh nymph]

suggestions?

[past urchin]

She probably gets interrupted by the hypogean warlock @fickle dove

Try.
Shemira
Rosa
Rowan
Talene/Brutus
Tasi
@fickle dove

Or
Shemira
Brutus
Rowan
Talene
Rosa
If Rosaline dies up front.

[jagged pike]

Id say frontline: lucius talene
Backline: belinda daimon rowan

[edgy linden]

maybe backline: Daimon, Nara, Numisu
Frontline: Lucius, Brutus/Talene/Rowan

[weak briar]

Can't beat 9-40, Just need to wait for level up? Or need changes?

[edgy linden]

need stronger shemira imo

[weak briar]

They crush me so Hard :(

Unfortunely don't have 1 copy of shemira for leg+

[edgy linden]

you would either need some kind of stall combi like lucius + gorvo for daimon, a strong enough carry like shemira or belinda+rosaline or enough peeps with cc like eironn + gorvo + tasi etc from what i can see

[distant plume]

What's the best GB team I can setup against Arden? Want to incorporate Izold into the TR, but don't know the best support (It's on a GB focused account)

[shut bluff]

Please help guys !! This stage is literally making me want to pull my eyeballs out !!!!!!!

Oh bugger!! Wrong stage screenshot .... this stage.....

[left ridge]

Im still a little new to the game what characters should i focus on to make the best lineup

[maiden marsh]

read the first two pinned guides in #classic-questions

[edgy linden]

@shut bluff looks like a typical case of eironn + safiya combo needed

[shut bluff]

I’ve tried. Oh how hard I’ve tried haha

Safiya just getting absolutely wrecked by the boss tasi

[maiden marsh]

are you willing to use merc/have merc?

[shut bluff]

I am@more than happy to use merc haha

I’ve been stuck on this one for too long

[maiden marsh]

My clear

[left ridge]

What do you mean the first 2 pinned guides?

[maiden marsh]

the thumbtack

[edgy linden]

maybe you are also just underleveled. that stuff happens too.

[weak briar]

I probably tried something with luc, but they died Just in start, thanks anyway for advice, need testing)

[maiden marsh]

level is fine, daimon just has problems with stages like this

[maiden marsh]

were you to attempt to copy this clear you would merc 3F skriath and need at least level 15 on the fortitude branch of the elder tree. another option is mercing a maxed out ferael

[shut bluff]

Was that a 5 pull?

[maiden marsh]

yes (into thoran cheese), hence the 3F skriath requirement

[shut bluff]

I don’t know anyone with a 3 furniture skriath 😦

[edgy linden]

i have a 3 furn skriath

[shut bluff]

Problem I’ve got is I can’t get any dmg on those enemies

Sheilds are insane ! And seirus is mega tank

[maiden marsh]

healing is too strong for daimon alone, you need either a cracked ferael or a different approach

[shut bluff]

Yeh true 😦 tried farael but he gets taken down befor his ult

Hey electro maybe I could add you as friend and use and abuse your skriath? 😂

[edgy linden]

i would just repeat try 100 times with a eironn, saf comp and hope that it works once amongst those

logging in rn to see if hes still free

[drowsy gazelle]

Me: using a grezhul . Look at my clears you peasant

[shut bluff]

Grezhul be handy you reckon ?

[maiden marsh]

Q is an expert on different approaches

[shut bluff]

I’ve got a grezhul I can merc

[drowsy gazelle]

Nah dont follow me, my clears are all garbage

[maiden marsh]

depends how stacked it is, Q's reinforcement grezhul was quite stacked

he says that but sometimes they work

[drowsy gazelle]

I really~ doubt u can follow me

[shut bluff]

I’ve tried all my possible combinations of the heroes I have 😦

[maiden marsh]

that other guy seems to have disappeared so here's my ID for merc skriath
108749280

[charred halo]

Any better LineUps/Adjustements?

[shut bluff]

Amazing I’ll add you bud

[maiden marsh]

you can request the skriath whenever

[shut bluff]

Sweet just done mate hopefully it’ll help. I’ve never actually played the 5 pull comp before, is there a preferred placement for skriath ?

[maiden marsh]

you can copy my placement, skriath's doesn't really matter as he's just there for the furn effect

[weak briar]

@edgy linden LUL, just beated 9-40 after changing Lyca to Tasi and ~15 attempts

[shut bluff]

Damn thoran doesn’t stay alive long enough to ults 🙈

[maiden marsh]

put call on thoran and no one else, he should ult after resurrecting @shut bluff

[shut bluff]

Whoa got so close!!! Hahah he did 56mil damage in one swoop 😂😂

[maiden marsh]

then it's possible, just a matter of rng now

[edgy linden]

@weak briar Tasi op

[weak briar]

@edgy linden now stuck on 10-20, but will try. Also after defeating stage 9-40 got diamonds and was lucky to obtain another copy of shemira 🙂

[shut bluff]

Problem@ive got now is everything is dead so nothing to follow up after the cheese

[maiden marsh]

ideally the cheese kills them all in one shot is the idea

[safe tusk]

I’ve been repeating for a very long time and switching positions as well as some swaps for ferael, any ideas on what to do here?

[pale kettle]

No matter where I am, tasi keeps bullying me :(
Pls help

[proven magnet]

Help guys?

[candid chasm]

Same i need help i can't clear this level 😢 - i want to add that i don't have enough gear for "dps/wizard"

[native grotto]

What the fuck is that old mf doing smh and that deer hoe

[undone sand]

I'm pulling for graveborns since the start, thinking on switching for wilders just so I can ascend eironn. What do you guys think?

ch19-10 and pushing

[shut bluff]

Oh my days. It took some rng but it worked thanks man

[maiden marsh]

[ashen dragon]

On 6-34. Can anyone recommend a general purpose lineup until things actually require a specific formation?

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Talene - Front row;
Shemira, Rosalinse, Tasi - Back row;

[ashen dragon]

Oh, ok thanks. I keep seeing Nemora always being talked about.. what hero would i need that would change this formation to include her?

[pale kettle]

Who do you see talking about nemora? She is quite low priority for wilders and for us early game noobs she has no use

[worthy steeple]

I fell like i'm one of the few people who didnt get shem as first 5 asc

[languid pier]

Please assist

[pale kettle]

I didnt either..my first was her son daimon though.

[worthy steeple]

Same!
My second, anyways

[pale kettle]

Nice, game feels like ez mode with him lol
Until chapter 24..pure cancer

[ashen dragon]

I regret not playing this game 3 years ago when they were spamming adds... so many missed dimensionals

[undone sand]

Up

[maiden marsh]

Still graveborn imo

[undone sand]

Ok

Would an elite talene help me right now? I’m lacking on sustain, daimon does almost everything and sometimes someone that is behind him can survive too

[pale monolith]

It's normal for the carrier to do everything so it's nothing wrong. You are already lvl 180 with your heros and I don't think Talene could help you. She is good really early and late game

[undone sand]

They’re all 140 actually, but I get what you’re saying. My tanks will start to do their job only when they catch up on level, too?

[maiden marsh]

someone like brutus can do the job irregardless of level

[undone sand]

I need to get him to 141 rn, almost doubles his immunity time

[pale monolith]

^^ Facts. Brutus is great to keep busy heros like Athalia or Thane that immediately kill any other tank. Also always keep a 40 lvl gap between carrier and others

[undone sand]

Noted

[brave oriole]

@languid pier try tasi instead of ferael

[languid pier]

same outcome

[brave oriole]

@languid pier move around your heroes, tasi should tank shemira up, so put down Arthur ainz

[languid pier]

kk ty will try

[proven magnet]

Any help?

[brave oriole]

@proven magnet easiest would be nemora middle to charm ferael, then fix the rest, replace fawk with nem, and maybe upside rowan front of daimon, chalice rowan, call daimon. If doesn't work well, replace Fera with talene Frontline up and see how's going

[pale kettle]

No matter where I am, tasi keeps bullying me :(
Pls help

[candid chasm]

up 😢

[proven magnet]

Tried it all still nothing atm lol

[pale kettle]

Hey guys! I'm new to the game and so far I got this. I was happy at the beggining, but now i'm really lost with the account.. what should I aim towards now? I can get a second wukong on lab store

I was thinking if I should rerroll my account on a new server. I'm 100% F2P as well

[mighty sage]

Any ideas

[proud edge]

31-53 Any ideas? Seen this comp work for others but can't seem to get a kill with daimon to snowball

[raw rose]

Hey, any good suggestion on formations for Lucretia cheese? (f2p, so no god comp or full hypo 😄 )

[past urchin]

Isnt this like instant game over cause Mehira gets her bats off undisturbed ?
@proud edge

[proud edge]

@past urchin I'd think so too, but multiple people at afkhelper have it posted as their successful comp

[rose lark]

help :| stage 8-20, I've tried a lot of formations, it's always vedan, the hypo mage that heals, and Niru that is insanely annoying

[fossil acorn]

help plz

[marsh nymph]

Eluard
Shem
Rowan
Izold
Nemora

Whoever gets Eluards shield in the beginning (shem or izold) put in front of vedan
@lemon fried wends#1348

[marsh nymph]

Mehira back mid, wukong front, take out silvina for eluard maybe

[fossil acorn]

thx. why mehira mid? (wanna learn)

got destroyed btw

won with this btw, and lucky pippa rng

[rose lark]

shemira dies to Niru and the warrior at the front and barely does any dmg to them, after vedan kill iznold, vedan goes in bat form and disturb rowan and goes to Elunard, the healing mage apparently targets rowan after that. him and Niru goes to Elunard and insta kills after his shield goes off.

Before this, I tried similar formations with shemira and izold, but izold ended up dying to fast due to vedan, and my carry is kelthur. Hes about the only one that does some form of damage.

overall dont damage any of them enough

[north tree]

Ideas ?

[summer cedar]

if rowan or tasi are geared, frontline (drop talene) then daimon to 4 and your pick of tasi/fera for 3.
alternatively, brutus rowan lyca eironn daimon

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

try saveas 1 lyca 3 mbe

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

lvl 100 wukong.

[pale kettle]

any ideas? i tried tasi in for lyca but she petrifies raine which isn't super helpful. idea behind the lyca is more energy for daimon to ult faster and hopefully get that first kill and get snowballing, but it hasn't been successful so far

[summer cedar]

try brutus thoran fera rowan daimon. must get lucky with fera interrupting luci shield. 1/2 can swap
alternatiely u can cheese this but thane is... unpleasant, shall we say

[pale kettle]

thanks, will do! so the idea is a bulky frontline to let fera interrupt lucius shield so daimon can get that initial kill and start the big snowball?

[summer cedar]

yep. that's a typical tank stall variation since u said the dodge/cc variation wasn't working.

[pale kettle]

presumably dodge variation scales better with T1/T2 gear than the tank stall variation?

[gilded shard]

Are there any tips for comps that can deal with tasi/fawkes?

Most of the time when I see them in pve I hit a block

[summer cedar]

sort of? dodge variation needs gear but tank can use whatever. on a stage by stage basis one will do better

[summer cedar]

fawkes can be dodged or blocked by shroud. both can be flinched

[pale kettle]

both at the same time try to interrupt tasi with something like nara and dodge fawkes
just one i try to use nara to interrupt the first CC

[gilded shard]

I’ll keep it in mind ty

[pale kettle]

is it chapter 24? 24-10 was a real bitch with both tasi and fawkes

[small mesa]

Idk what to do I get killed in like 10 seconds 😥

[summer cedar]

luci brutus lyca rowan shem

[small mesa]

ok I’ll try ty

[pale kettle]

any modifications to make luc cheese better? daimon is in for cap stuff

[summer cedar]

twins suicide. maybe a lyca.

[dull bay]

Just can't beat this :/

[pale kettle]

Do you think there is any way I can beat this level with the heroes I have?

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=57

[undone sand]

@pale kettle you need to cc ferael

[pale kettle]

Yeah even when I put eironn in the middle I still get clunked

[dull bay]

@pale kettle put eirron in where grez is ?

[undone sand]

how easily? try putting pippa too and remove lyca. also eironn front and saf mid back

[pale kettle]

I'm trying all these things idk if maybe I'm too underleveled

[summer cedar]

show a screenshot of your hero pool

[pale kettle]

These are all my heroes

[safe falcon]

Actually impossible

[summer cedar]

• reset the second eironn.
• stop building L.
• throw brutus in crystal.
• you chose to build off meta so u will struggle, but try brutus thoran safi eironn lyca maybe? idk this might be doomed.

[pale kettle]

Okay thank you for the advice, I am trying to do all of that, hopefully I can get lucky with some draws and get some ascensions

@summer cedar what is bad about legendary's may I ask?

[maiden marsh]

it's a tiny power boost that takes a decent amount of fodder that's locked in that hero until you get two more copies of them. better to save for more copies then invest the fodder

[pale kettle]

Hmm okay

[thorny garden]

Someone help me with a good lineup please for stage 12 plus

[summer cedar]

• reset shem it's wasted rss
• try luci thane saveas nemora tasi.
• read the pins in #classic-questions for a good wishlist
• stop building L

[undone sand]

Can I do it with just one ult?

[distant merlin]

Can someone help

[zenith tapir]

What is a good lineup that includes shemira

[distant merlin]

I would say roasline

Rosaline rowan shemira

[zenith tapir]

What about for forward characters

[nimble fossil]

Ok, any formation I can use for this?

[summer cedar]

brutus rowan fera daimon tasi or something like that. there's a variety of options here

[gaunt sleet]

Help anyone?

[solar igloo]

need help with this

[nimble fossil]

Some of these fights are annoying me Who can I use here?

[pale monolith]

I guess Athalia is wrecking your tram right?

You can try using Brutus in the back mid row so he would buy you some time

[thorny pendant]

rowan eironn tasi lyca daimon?

[pale kettle]

I need your assistance!

[empty ibex]

This seems impossible. Best attempt was leaving Vedan and Shemira both full hp, Isabella gets cursed by Thoran but it's not enough to stop her. This comp does resist for a while on its own, but as soon as Isabella Ults it's all over since she one shots everyone, no exceptions. Is this even possible?

[bleak bridge]

Try ainz albedo talene arthur rowan

[dark roost]

Hi!
I've been stuck on this one for a long time now. Even using a merc didn't help much.

Any ideas? Seems that all variations of my standard Ainz comp can't do it, everything dies too fast. Can't survive 15sec for ainz passive. Eironn pull seems especially annoying.

[pale monolith]

Maybe a Ferael instead of Daimon? Also Brutus in front of Eironn

[gilded needle]

should i post again or ?

[south grail]

Yeah

[gilded needle]

thank you in advance for helping

[south grail]

Belinda
Izold
Nemora
Brutus
Shemira

[gilded needle]

belinda in first row ?

[pale monolith]

Izold isn't good without SI and Furniture and Nemora is trash. Switch Nemora with Rosaline

[south grail]

They work out early game

[pale monolith]

Idk about Izold but Nemora was trash for me early game

[south grail]

She was a life saver. Her ult does crazy healing early one

[pale monolith]

Niru was way better than Nemora for me

[gilded needle]

hmm tryed 1 story fight and didnt work so good so far :/

[pale monolith]

Click the button in the right bottom corner and send a picture of it

[gilded needle]

the one where the crystals are ?

[pale monolith]

The stats

Something like this should apper

[gilded needle]

sry dont find that score

[gilded needle]

but next fight went better

[pale monolith]

CLICK THAT BUTTON AND SEND A PICTURE OF WHAT APPEARS

[gilded needle]

i dont find any button upper right iam on android if that helps

[pale monolith]

IT LITTERY IS CIRCLED IN RED IS IT SO HARD TO FIND IT

[gilded needle]

where ? no red circle

[empty ibex]

It's on the defeat screen/ victory screen

[gilded needle]

ahh ok thanks mom

nope

[pale monolith]

CLICK WHERE IT'S NOT RED

[gilded needle]

but the formation seams to work out so thank you Italian 27-1

[pale monolith]

I'm going to slay my wrists

[gilded needle]

thanks i try mom

[pale monolith]

Instead of Belinda front row put Brutus. Also since Shemira is your carry you might as well replace Belinda with Numisu for more healing

[errant wing]

When running a dimensional team (joker and queen now) should i garrison ainz or albedo

[pale monolith]

You shouls garrsion Albedo for the SI

[sterile dove]

Been stuck here for some time now :/ any smart people around?

[errant wing]

Yeah thought so it was albedo si or ainz opness basically :'D thank you

[pale monolith]

No problem but it's not reccomanded to run 2 carriers (JOKER, Ainz)

[gilded needle]

thanks fresh

[pale monolith]

Shemira

Rowan
Ferael
Lucius
Daimon

[pale monolith]

Which heals the least,Rowan or Nemora?

[sterile dove]

Aint got no crystals for Ferael :/

[pale monolith]

I think he would be the key here since you kill 2 birds with 1 stone. You prevent the enemy Ferael from giving the evil spirits to your team and also giving the evil spirits to the enemy

[sterile dove]

Eh, will have to wait 24hrs. You got any other ideas? Thanks btw

[pale monolith]

Maybe a Fawkes but I think he will get killed instantly. Also Lorsan has an quite unique ability but since you got no crystal room that won't work

[sterile dove]

Aint got either of them :/ oh well buddy, thanks anyways

[gilded needle]

fresh thank you again it realy helped alot iam off again see ya next time and thanks for the patient with me

[pale monolith]

Ok, sorry for getting angry

[dark roost]

@pale monolith that was my standard and initial comp. Brutus and fera instead of Lyca and Daimon.

Might just need some RNG

[pale monolith]

You're not extremely underleveld so I think some RNG would do it

[compact breach]

Please help. Can someone who is very informed about PVP tell me how about these formations? I just got Ainz and this is the first time I can use a comp with him

[pale monolith]

Generally the comp used in PvP with Ainz is exactly what you use except for Tasi which is switched with Lyca

[compact breach]

The problem is that I necessarily need Lyca in Eiron's comp .. Tasi is a good substitute for Lyca more or less, right?@pale monolith

Or maybe Talene is better

[pale monolith]

Generally yes, a good replacement for Lyca can also be Ferael but since you are usinf Daimon Comp that's not going to work

[bleak bridge]

I use almost the same Ainz comp, only talene instead of tasi, but 9/9 +30 is recommended then. Ferael can also be a good alternative.

[compact breach]

Yes, my Talene is +30 9/9. If I use Talene, where should I put it? On the front line with Arthur?@bleak bridge

[bleak bridge]

I prefer albedo front with arthur. With grace on and 3/9 she becomes a solid tank.

fyi the whole comp is +30

Also I highly suggest getting ainz 9/9. Makes him really op

[lucid trench]

@pale monolith nemora

She heals the least it says from my last battle

[compact breach]

@bleak bridge Okay, thank you very much for everything. So are my comps for now. Good heroes like Tasi, Saurus are left out, but .. there is not room for all in 3 comps

[bleak bridge]

Np. Your Comps looks pretty solid.

[lucid trench]

I tried switching nemora for fawks it works sometimes then fails

[proud venture]

sorry, i'm new here and i'm hunting a friend to lend me an albedo. can anyone help?

[pale monolith]

Unfortunately I don't have Albedo but you can request one in #mercenary

[mighty sage]

Any ideas

[undone sand]

HELP

[muted turtle]

Don't know what to do here, even close, plz help

[drowsy locust]

Hello, need help. Trying to clear that stage in Misty Valley. 3 req is Celia and Eluard in team. Don't have Cecilia, so forsed to use her as merc. Zaph is appearing inside my formation and then everyone dead) and Cecilia can't win alone

[earnest thicket]

I'm not sure if you have Nara or not, but she can pull Zaph and stop him from teleporting into your formation

[drowsy locust]

i do have her

[earnest thicket]

Have Nara pull Zaph and place Joker in front of Orthos, as for spot 3 i personally used athalia

[drowsy locust]

I don't have cecilia, and you think that I will have her "upgraded" celestial version?)
Anyway thanks, will try

[earnest thicket]

Technically cecilla can decrease her target's attack rating, athalia can't do that but she controls her target immediately which is great for initiating Joker's All Out Attacks

good luck though lol

[rigid birch]

Cecilia
-------->Talene
Safiya/Rowan
-------->Eironn
Lyca

[drowsy locust]

but you forgot Eluard)

[rigid birch]

ah right
take out mid back position and put in eluard

if it doesnt work
Cecilia
------->Lyca
Eluard
------->Eironn
Rowan

[drowsy locust]

Did it with Eluard + Talene / Cecilia + Nara + Eironn
Thanks, everyone)
@rigid birch my E+ Rowan shows himself not really great

[night sequoia]

Damn how do you get through Safiya Baden Mehira Brutus and Nimisu

[rigid birch]

slap some gear+ call on rowan and hes good

[night sequoia]

My AinzBedo can't make it

[rigid birch]

is that a mv stage @night sequoia ?

[rigid birch]

probably gonna need a nara vs that mehira
and take out rowan or ferael

[night sequoia]

Even Lyca 20 not helping 😭

[rigid birch]

yo i think u can use ezio vs that mehira

[drowsy gazelle]

@night sequoia

[rigid birch]

formation god back at it again

[distant plume]

Struggling with this as Isabella plows through. I can manage to get Tidus to fear her, but he dies right thereafter, and the rest gets deleted

[rigid birch]

@distant plume

[distant plume]

Don't have Kren in the crystal yet, but I can switch things around for friday

[rigid birch]

you can merc mine

[distant plume]

Sure, ign is the same and I use Satrana as pf

[night sequoia]

@drowsy gazelle made it mercy Gwen 😎
Ainz Gwen magic 28-58 https://imgur.com/gallery/3TNNi0b

Now chapter 29😎

[proven magnet]

Help guys?

[stoic cipher]

Drez or satrana for floor 300+ of mauler tower?
Tidus skreg brutus numisu skirath safiya kren ascended already

[empty jasper]

Try farael for early cc

[empty jasper]

Drez most likely

[undone vessel]

Advice on who I can use to beat this stage? It's kicking my butt even when I switch around heroes or formation, especially Numisu

[autumn ginkgo]

Who should I tie ainz to? (Btw I will ascend tasi later today)

[jagged pike]

Belinda

[distant merlin]

Help idk what to do

[wispy tartan]

@mild geyser do you have 30-60? don't see it on afkhelper and replays only show me my friend who did it at lvl 350 lol

[maiden marsh]

just copy my lineup smh my head

[mild geyser]

its the standard clear so i didnt bother putting it up

[wispy tartan]

eironn daimon?

[mild geyser]

nah eironn saf

[wispy tartan]

oh okay

just 200 saf?

[mild geyser]

I think 300 would be ideal

could probably make it work with 200

but i think it would require more retries

[wispy tartan]

hmm okay, thanks

[mild geyser]

pretty sure blade on saf

[real schooner]

So 5-set has been reached, and I'm thinking I can't do it till I build up Izold, but I wanna check. I'm currently using: Ainz, Eironn, Daimon, Gwyn for my 4-set. Do I have any team I can make for my 5th, or am I gonna be waiting for Izold?

[maiden marsh]

thoran to 30 is an option for 5th team

[real schooner]

I thought I didn't really have the support heroes necessary to get Thoran cheese going?

[maiden marsh]

nara kelthur ezizh athalia lorsan and the like around like E will work fine afaik

@stuck trellis any insight?

[real schooner]

Hmm I could give that a shot, and then the question will become: Do I put my emblems into Thoran to get him +30, or do I keep them for Izold?

[maiden marsh]

thoran over izold imo

[real schooner]

I'm actually reading Pippi's guide now xD. Hopefully that'll help, and with the event maybe I can get enough chests that I'll have both Thoran and Izold +30 before long 🙂. Still gotta get time to do Saurus one day too xD

[stuck trellis]

you absolutely have teh supports nessescary for thoran cheese

might wanna open up some crystal slots and take off people like ulmus/baden/izold (for now since he is just M)/skreg (since he is just L+), etc. so you can put actually valuable units like lorsan in

[real schooner]

Awesome, I'll give it a shot once I get the emblems! Thanks @maiden marsh and @stuck trellis . Also thanks for the guide Pippi! Very very good timing for me 🤣

[pale kettle]

Guys any suggestions in this level 16-12?

[real schooner]

Take Rowan out for Fawkes or Gwyn. Silvania should be attracted to Belinda in that lineup. Maybe take Daimon out since he has no SI yet and probably isn't super useful and sub in another DPS.

[sonic ocean]

which lightbearer should i ascend? raine, fawkes or cecillia? i already have rowan, belinda, estrilda and rosaline

[empty ibex]

Sorry, I'm still new so I can't help you with this one, try asking in #classic-questions

This stage is not much worse thant the last one. In short, Kaz eats Thoran, Arden traps Daimon (and Ogi cancels his shield) Mirael is useless and Rowan just drops dead as soon as the Frontline heroes are down. 🆘

[jade pelican]

Help

Nvm got it

[nimble fossil]

Stage 14. Who can I use with Ainz?

[summer cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/609275505526439974/819381526164013056/Screenshot_20210310-202911_AFK_Arena.jpg MV 14, 15s. my clear

[nimble fossil]

Don’t have Fawkes
Or Arthur
Or Albedo

I have Ainz as a Mercenary

And I do actually have Rowan

[fossil acorn]

Ideas?

[real schooner]

Anyone here willing to help me try and setup a Thoran cheese for this fight? (I've never done before)

[zenith fern]

Top left build @real schooner

[maiden marsh]

thoran cheesing thoran is going to require cleanup most likely

[real schooner]

Thanks @zenith fern I don't need the heroes who are part of it, I'm wondering more about how to get the line order right so it happens against that particular comp

[maiden marsh]

strong cleanup, like ascended talene or kelthur

[real schooner]

Crapo I used Talene earlier xD. Maybe I should try cheesing the 4th battle instead of the 5th.

[maiden marsh]

there's probably a better battle here to cheese yeah

[fossil acorn]

anyone?

[real schooner]

3rd line is: Niru, Grez, Isabella, Silvania, and Kelthur, would that work better?

[distant merlin]

Halp

[distant merlin]

Dont use arden until hes at 141

[maiden marsh]

grez is problematic but not nearly as problematic as thoran. all things considered I'm not the greatest to advise for thoran cheese lol

[fossil acorn]

😮

What then?

[distant merlin]

Damion and fawkes are good at elite

[fossil acorn]

daimon + ainz?

[distant merlin]

That could work. Ainz and rosa sounds good too if you got her

[fossil acorn]

I have her

could you tell me the position of each hero, plz?

[distant merlin]

Im not good at building comps but i would say rowan middle is his best position. thoran at top front and i would put ainz above thoran and rosa below rowan

Can someone help me tho

[languid pier]

elp

oh wait i got it nvm, ezio op

[maiden marsh]

come meet me at 31-20

it sucks

[languid pier]

we'll see 😄 whats ur main form

[maiden marsh]

my main form is homo sapien

[maiden marsh]

fr tho what does main mean lol

[languid pier]

formation, team

[maiden marsh]

ah, usually something like what you have shown

[languid pier]

ainz abuser alright 😛

now I cant beat first team again easily

[maiden marsh]

I also use thoran cheese and daimon where applicable

[bright sigil]

Tried nearly everything

Saurus and Eironn is +30, the rest is +20

[pale kettle]

tasi petrify goes on shemira

daimon comps i've tried:
two tank: brutus/thoran/daimon/rowan/fera
dodge comp: rowan/brutus/daimon/fera/tasi

attempted to use a thoran comp, but is difficult since i am unable to do it optimally (daimon has to be in for power cap which leaves me no way to deal with one of the enemy backliners since i can only pull 2 in range of thoran)

tried using nara in place of tasi but she gets oneshot before pulling. even when the fawkes box is dodged, daimon is unable to do enough damage to get the first kill. if he does, he ends up oneshot by mirael ult (which is why he's positioned at 3)

is it time to wait until i can merc this stage?

[mighty sage]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

arden can be a god if he manages to get one root off
i'd prefer him over talene for most stages if he can get that root off

[mighty sage]

I tried it main problem is my Brutus gets destroyed fast even with his shield so there’s no chance to root or so damage

[worthy basin]

Moin, is this a good Team?

[pale kettle]

i'd try swapping saveas and talene and putting in arden for talene if khasos is hopefully hitting brutus and not arden

[mighty sage]

Khasos goes straight for the backline I tried swapping them back with Arden at top which worked better but still didn’t work

[dull bay]

Good daimon comp pls

[maiden marsh]

tasi rowan lyca fera daimon

[dull bay]

That order?

[maiden marsh]

ye

[honest night]

starting to see these heroes in some combo together more often, whats the best way to tackle a stage like this?

[safe falcon]

any tips? literally impossible

[lusty osprey]

Any ideas on a good lineup?

[night sequoia]

What artifact fields of stone give at chapter 29?

[maiden marsh]

Beating 29 is windbinder

[ashen dragon]

What's a replacement for Belinda on this team vs Wrizz?

[thorny pendant]

mortas

[nimble fossil]

I need some help on this level. That formation I’m using? Someone else cleared this level with that exact formation at level 287. I’m at 307. How the hell is this level so hard??? Who should I use instead of this??

[blazing holly]

I would probably put saurus in front of hendrik to help burst him down after eironn pulls. If you have a vurk put him across from athalia and see if his poison traps won't slow her down. And I don't know what else to tell you to try here really, could remove daimon and put in lyca/gwen/ferael/safiya but no guarantee any of that will work, would say safiya/vurk/saurus changes would be the ticket.

[maiden marsh]

Level 269

[amber halo]

mehira is a bitch

[sharp oriole]

Hm seems to hard now.. Any reccomodations?

[nimble fossil]

I keep getting stuck at these stages. Who should I use?

[amber halo]

wait u have nakururu but not ainz? wait what?

[split oar]

any ideas?

[somber pawn]

Try eironn position 2 or 5, switch the new lb hero with tasi

[split oar]

@somber pawn nothing works no matter position or heroes, welp gonna wait until i get another L+ food cuz i can make eironn ascended

[somber pawn]

Which hero is tasi putting to sleep @split oar

[broken cloud]

hi, any help here?
#classic-questions message

[night sequoia]

For some reason I couldn't complete trails of God for Chaos bringer. Will trying again make it harder? 80% health regeneration reduced screws u up

[faint current]

It's the same difficulty each time. It does not scale to you or anything like that.

Martial ratings system is used instead

[sterile dove]

Any ideas? Ainz is garissoned so can link him to Shem or Lucius and make him ascended

[cold reef]

I've recently started so I would like to know which lineup for campaign would be perfect

[sterile dove]

Lucius, Wu Kong, Belinda and Lucretia are all strong

[celest vessel]

Who should i put on my pvp team, just started 2 days ago almost on new server

[sterile dove]

You Will have to change lineup for certain stages tho

[cold reef]

1 more? xd

[sterile dove]

Antandra is p strong but its whatever if you just powerlevel Lucretia

Antandra gets shit later on tho so dont invest too much

[celest vessel]

Who's antranda

[sterile dove]

Its @ kiri

[celest vessel]

Oh aight

Sorry

[sterile dove]

Np
Chicken and Belinda can synergize quite well but I'm not great at pvp sorry

[celest vessel]

What about for campeign.

[sterile dove]

Eironn carry

[celest vessel]

Is that elf dude?

[sterile dove]

Safiya quite good too later
Belinda stronk early
Lucius is a great tank for now

Yush

[celest vessel]

Ok

So basically what i was already doing lol

[sterile dove]

Yeah probably haha, quite intuitive

[celest vessel]

I just though those peeps looked cool xD

[sterile dove]

Also little undead girl got a buff, she can deal good damage now

If she stays alive, quite squishy still

[celest vessel]

Ok, i also made a server 1 account yesterday imma switch to, to ask some questions

Who should be on my main team for this box?

[warm swan]

@cold reef @celest vessel there's not much going on with your boxes. Your best bet as mentioned in the guide is Wukong. He will be your carry till 100ish.

[cold reef]

Any good choices to pick from new event

[celest vessel]

for my first account or my second account? or both

[warm swan]

@cold reef don't pick any regular heroes from the event. They will eventually come to you as you progress and when you unlock select summons. Red chests are the best value, but seeing as they are not yet unlocked for you, I'd go Twins or fodders

@celest vessel I'm sorry, I didn't see the first box. But yes, both.

[celest vessel]

yes sir

[low bridge]

Any help to beat this stage?

Tasi and Nemora are

[honest night]

If you manage to get it let me know, same boat as you

[plucky slate]

Any advice what would be my best bet? Stuck in campaign and peaks of time, and labyrinth.

[low bridge]

Done. Place arden in. I used Daimon, Brutus, Arden, Lyca, Rowan

Arden
Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Lyca

Shift them around if needed

[honest night]

got it, i'll give it a try, guessing tasi nemora tree is going to be standard moving forward

[low bridge]

1 stage ahead, maulers one. Ever harder lmao

[fossil acorn]

Help plz

ainz dies before he even casts his skill

[pale kettle]

Any tips?

[vapid ridge]

Ideas for this stage? Or is the power difference just too big?

[warm swan]

What relics you got in them?

[somber pawn]

Which hero does tasi make sleep?

[vapid ridge]

Lyca

[maiden marsh]

Call on tasi, take it off rowan if that's too many for your tastes

[warm swan]

@vapid ridge might've saved you some trouble by just clicking that button in the blue box. Call on Tasi. Chalice in Rowan myb

[somber pawn]

Put regeneration on Daimon

[vapid ridge]

Oh yeah, that's great too know, thank you! Okay, will do

[rigid birch]

Looks like a good Gwyneth stage, you can try that if all fails

[somber pawn]

That's what I thought too, but no Arthur or rosa

[vapid ridge]

Yeah, sadly, I'm at 15 shards right now for Arthur, with 60k lab shards waiting and 6 rosa copies, will ascend her next for lbs

[somber pawn]

Does the Sivas spear one shot rowan?

[vapid ridge]

It's way closer already, I'll give it some tries with the new artifacts, that might do it

[rigid birch]

Lyca
----->Eironn
Gwyneth
------>Rowan
Lorsan

[vapid ridge]

Nope, sivas doesn't one shot rowan

[rigid birch]

You need to pray hard for Rowan/Eironn to not get hit once, but it's worth a shot

[somber pawn]

You can still Nara on 3 , eironn 4 tasi 1

[rigid birch]

Can also sub Lorsan out for Joker, just for some extra damage

[vapid ridge]

I am trying some of your suggestions rn, thanks! :)

This actually ended up winning

[rigid birch]

gz

[somber pawn]

Gj

[vapid ridge]

Thanks! I'm really happy with my progress after 75 days :)

[plucky slate]

Any idea on what I can do to progress?

[rigid birch]

It's only gonna get better from now, getting more ascended heroes and SI and furnitures

[plucky slate]

I am stuck on campaign, and peaks of time and labyrinth lol

[rigid birch]

Stop ascending heroes to Legendary if you don't have enough for Legendary+, Your carry should be a higher ascension/level than any support(In that case you should pick a carry to mythic[preferrably Daimon] so that Rosaline shifts roles to support)

As for the formation:
Arden/Rosaline
------->Lucius
Rowan
------->Brutus
Belinda

[pale monolith]

Izold is not a tank

[plucky slate]

I can't change the ones that are already ascending can I?

[pale monolith]

Also why run 2 carriers and no healer

[vapid ridge]

Yup, it was kinda crazy how I got my gwen furniture so quickly lol, my plans are to ascend lyca next in wilder, get her to si20, with saurus being my next si 30 after eironn @rigid birch

[rigid birch]

sadly you cant revert ascensions

@vapid ridge exactly how it went for my second account lol keep up the good work

[plucky slate]

Rip, tried the lineup suggested got slapped, brutus dies super quick.

[rigid birch]

probably gotta wait for a mythic carry then

[plucky slate]

I only need one more belinda i think to move her to legendary plus.

[rigid birch]

good, afterwards get her to mythic and get her as high as you can
rosa now follows her and you have good damage

[proper wagon]

any way i can clutch the last 4 stages?

[maiden marsh]

Swap flora for lyca, izold for tasi

[rigid birch]

take out izold, daimon and flora and put in talene, nara and lyca/tasi

[proper wagon]

is izold bad?

[rigid birch]

he just doesnt tank before he gets his signature item

[proper wagon]

is it normal that i came so far with this lineup?

lile this once i can put em into tje resonating crystal again

[rigid birch]

Take Daimon out and put in Talene

[proper wagon]

but then there is no tank?

[rigid birch]

not every team needs a tank, despite daimon being a tank he is fairly squishy before stacking his signature item
he also needs ascensions and is usually backlined

[proper wagon]

is flora bad? bc i really like her design

[celest vessel]

he's a tank? I've just been using him for aoe defense oop

aoe attack*

[velvet belfry]

She’s not bad but she requires high investment and is usually more PvP oriented. She’s one of the lowest priority celopogeans so trying to build her early is not very smart in terms of preparing for endgame meta

[amber badge]

Any suggestions? this stage is brutal. Can merc

[velvet belfry]

Put Brutus across from athalia and take izold out for someone else, he needs his SI and furn built to carry

[amber badge]

My izold outperforms my Daimon consistently and has carried me. Any suggestions on who to replace him with? I actually can’t merc :/

[sterile dove]

Anyone smart online? Ainz is garrisonned so can link to whoever

[exotic crater]

probably need to deal with that farael, though i suspect you know the drill for that: your own farael, or nara, or nemora. heavy rng though
btw does lucius last long enough for ainz to ult

[low bridge]

Any ideas? I die so fast.

Switching around this comp doesnt help much btw

[sterile dove]

yeah Ainz cant ult but its not super strong. i really need to get a farael lol

[exotic crater]

i doubt lyca does much but ultimately i think you need more levels mate. 4x 160 vs 229's is kinda big difference.

[low bridge]

Hm yeah, thats true. Guess I have to afk a bit.

Powerlevel diff is not that big though

[exotic crater]

haha you're at 3x if measuring by power, at this stage that's still already impressive imo at this point. what does afkhelper say

[low bridge]

@exotic crater something like this

180-200 generally

[exotic crater]

yeah as i suspected. 4x 160 level diff is too big

[low bridge]

I dont have enough copies to push past 160 though. Not even considering pushing them to A tier

[exotic crater]

means you're gonna be stuck for awhile, don't really see much choice.
you alr have 2 at M, just need 2 more and i see your alr have wilder and mauler food ready, so you've already done fantastically up till now

[low bridge]

Great to hear, focussing on Rowan M rn to make his SI 30

[exotic crater]

yup yup, i think you already knew all this in your heart but nothing to do except wait and hope for good rng mate. you should be holding up your account for newbies as a fantastic example of what can happen with good planning.

[low bridge]

Thank you for the nice feedback! Im 30 days in now. And I learned from my previous mistakes!

[low bridge]

I did decide to already borrow Ainz and work on him and Albedo. Not sure if that will be optimal but we will see

[exotic crater]

i don't have much experience with them but afaik it's optimal to start as early as possible if/when you can afford it. won't be an instant payoff though, will take many months to get them up to a useful point i suspect

[low bridge]

Thinking the same. We will see, cheers!

[pale kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568025210498842633/821560729244008448/unknown.png?width=313&height=676

tasi petrify goes on shemira

daimon comps i've tried:
two tank: brutus/thoran/daimon/rowan/fera
dodge comp: rowan/brutus/daimon/fera/tasi

attempted to use a thoran comp, but is difficult since i am unable to do it optimally (daimon has to be in for power cap which leaves me no way to deal with one of the enemy backliners since i can only pull 2 in range of thoran)

tried using nara in place of tasi but she gets oneshot before pulling. even when the fawkes box is dodged, daimon is unable to do enough damage to get the first kill. if he does, he ends up oneshot by mirael ult (which is why he's positioned at 3)

is it time to wait until i can merc this stage?

[somber pawn]

I thought everyone meant position 5 for the placement that you have your diamon , not 3

Your thoran should be in position 2 and tasi in 1. Also it may be possible that if you put tidus in 2 he would be able to stun /fear the Fawkes before the boxing

[pale kettle]

tasi dies before being able to petrify in position 1

oops yeah i mistyped that, daimon is at 5 in the pic but i've alternated between 3/5 with no luck for him

[peak ingot]

Any ideas guys ?

[pale kettle]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/kings_tower.php?floor=500 here are some clears but idk if it'll be useful for you

[peak ingot]

Thanks

[lusty osprey]

Any ideas on a good lineup?

[worthy steeple]

switch erion and rowan

[night sequoia]

Heroes that can use chaos bringer? Saurus and who??

[thorny pendant]

warriors, so izold, warek, estrilda, etc.

[hidden condor]

Not sure if I’m just stuck due to level or running a bad comp

[pale kettle]

Your comp isn't bad at all but I'd drop that belinda completely since you have daimon as carry already, instead I would have used the fodder for lucius but too late now :(. Lucius would help you tons, especially since you have 4 copies already. Also make sure to try out that talene, even at elite she's an amazing healer at that early stage.

[hidden condor]

Didn’t have the Lucius copies when I was getting that Belinda up unfortunately

[cold reef]

Is Tasy anything good or should I keep 1st 5 for Campaign

[distant plume]

Stuck on this stage in the misty Valley. Is there a way I can clear it and not ask for help?

With the 100 diamonds in game I mea

[worthy steeple]

What do i use against 2 lucious, 3 numisu at crystal 200?

[cerulean cedar]

my only actual advice is aoe, maybe try to ainz it
is your problem the stage or the framerate

[worthy steeple]

its the stage.

how do i outdamage a bunch of healers with shields and taunt totems

[maiden marsh]

daimon will need a stacked ferael to have a chance, try mercing either that or a strong ainz

[cerulean cedar]

i would say really fast aoe, maybe joker with animation thing

[worthy steeple]

i already used my merc

I dont have joker, and my ains is only +22, 1 furn

So I'm stuck?

[maiden marsh]

probably

[worthy steeple]

Welp

[cerulean cedar]

honestly i would

1. spam aoe units
2. "just macro it"
   but who am I to talk I'm stuck on 281

[worthy steeple]

Xd

Not sure how i'm atill farther than you

[maiden marsh]

it's in the name, they're a pleb

[safe falcon]

also stuck on luciux2 numisu x3. cant do shit

[worthy steeple]

glad i'm not the only one

[narrow raptor]

any help ?

[inland socket]

Any ideas to not get shredded?

[honest night]

any ideas? lose after 5 seconds of battle lol

[summer cedar]

if tasi doesn't banish fera, brutus talene daimon rowan lyca.

[summer cedar]

u need aoe or high burst. daimon can't handle all these heals. try ainz merc and use fera to hopefully interrupt ults

[past urchin]

Eironn pull from the middle @worthy steeple
Rowan up front and make sure Daimon is out of range of Rowan's potions.

[worthy steeple]

eironn is e+

are you sure that will work?

[past urchin]

Probably not.
He will pull and die :/

[worthy steeple]

Ye0

Yeah, um... not sure whatels i can do

[atomic pond]

Zolrath and ezizh who is better

[maiden marsh]

the answer is still ezizh

[muted dust]

What lineup should I use? Daimon is +20, rowan +20, eironn +10, ainz +10. The general problem I face is that tasi banishes my daimon then thane kills everything else.

I've tried using nemora to charm, stacking dps on thane, using ferael to fear tasi, but the best result I got was thane at half health and I never managed to kill anything

Do I just wait for friend mercs, and if so, who should I use?

[past oxide]

@muted dust link ainz to eirron and replace eirron with him

[muted dust]

nvm. I'm fairly confident that using nara and lyca will work out

100 tries later, and I managed to kill thane and lucius 🙂 given some luck, it should be possible

[noble sky]

Who should be on my team?

[pale kettle]

read the pins in #classic-questions
do the two most recent infographics first to get a geenral idea, then tree's guide if you want a more thorough guide

[fossil acorn]

Any ideas? Ainz does not survive enough to cast his skills

[pale kettle]

got an E or E+ brutus to stall for him?

[fossil acorn]

no brutus so far 😦

@pale kettle Any other ideas?

[pale kettle]

not sure tbh i was still using saveas in ch 12 i think

[ornate ridge]

Been stuck for way too long

[untold ginkgo]

Is this still a good comp for Wrizz guild hunt?

[royal coral]

Currently using Daimon carry team of: Daimon/Lyca/Rosaline/Rowan/Tasi

Who should I replace with who for better optimization/synergy with Daimon.

[toxic flame]

@royal coral silas has great synnergy with diamon. Replace rosaline.

@untold ginkgo it looks fine but there are better comps out there

[untold ginkgo]

I like to think im stacked with heroes and would like to use better comps

[royal coral]

Thanks it worked well, would you suggest a lineup position for them?
Daimon, silas, Lyca, Tasi, rowan not in that order.

[toxic flame]

Lineup position is almost always dependent on enemy formation. Daimon is usually gonna be frontline. Rowan will usually be middle back.

Aside from that, it is better to overlevel your carry rather than having everyone be lvl 180. Usually u would have daimon 200 and everyone else 160, then bring everyone else to 180 followed by daimon to 220, etc.

Right now ur limited by ascensions which is a little strange because 180 is not supposed to be a block. Unless u foddered ascended tier heroes to get there. @Bla#9241

[lusty osprey]

Arden is so annoying. Anything I can do?

It's not even a boss level and I'm having so much trouble

Nothing I do comes close

I just can't with this level

[lusty osprey]

...

[thorny pendant]

is that skriath doing anything?

[lusty osprey]

Why? What are you suggesting?

[maiden marsh]

Skriath isn't good here without 3F

[lusty osprey]

So, what should I do instead?

[maiden marsh]

Lyca ig

[lusty osprey]

Arden is making this impossible

It's not working

Every time I get close, Adren ults and destroys everything

[warm swan]

Try it with Brutus, Thoran, Eironn, Rowan, Lyca. Call on Eironn and Rowan.

Dealing with Arden using Eironn is a pain. His shield makes Eironn melt

[lusty osprey]

Switching from Safiya to lyca and Skriath to Ferael worked

[valid mantle]

Can I get some help if I should continue to build Saurus? And Pippa, Nemora, Gorvo, and Daimon

And what should I get from lab tokens?

[exotic crater]

for under level 160 pls refer to the pinned guides at #classic-questions (click pin icon; if on mobile swipe left/right to find it)

focus on fodder heroes (those with only 3 skills) first, e.g. mirael, silvina
in general don't use tokens to buy heroes except for arthur

[valid mantle]

Thanks!

[outer nacelle]

only question I have here is should I replace the monkey...If so then with who? This formation is the same as KT/AOH/AL/GH

[exotic crater]

wukong can serve as carry up to 100. you should be levelling him ahead of others as he's your carry

once at 100, reset him and level mirael as your carry (your carry should always be 20/40 levels ahead of all others

[outer nacelle]

Ok i havent play in nearly a year so didnt know this rule O_O, any specific reason why a blue after monkey hits 100? @exotic crater

[exotic crater]

levels are important, and ascensions are used to increase level cap.
to do ascensions, you'd need multiple copies.
since fodder heroes (3 skill) are much easier to get than A-tier heroes (4 skill), we use them first all the way up to 160

you can refer to the pinned guides at #classic-questions , esp the first one by Tree3, to catch back up on everything

[royal coral]

Stuck a bit on here, furthest I've gotten was Daimon's first ult, might be able to make it if he can pull another, but tried replacing Ferael from Silas and got melted even faster.

[stuck trellis]

@amber halo

fera
albedo
ainz
Arthur
joker

can swap arthur and albedo if u find that works better

joker will stop arden temporarily and also do some damage when fera triggers all out attack

wait hold on this is 30 3 ainz.. hmmm

[crude obsidian]

Im very stuck atm, need some help if i can get it

[amber halo]

ainz +30 rowan +30 albedo +30 arthur +20 lyca +20. Ainz 8/9

[amber halo]

my ferael is dogsht. +1 legendary gear XD

[stuck trellis]

so does it work?

or fera too weak for the lineup to survive

[amber halo]

no way. ainz get 0 energy

[compact breach]

I am able to complete all the stages except this one. I need a mercenary to take down everyone by himself. Who do you think can carry me? I have tried with Ainz (it is very strong) and I can't. Is there a hero who is capable of defeating a team easily?

[mint nimbus]

Any suggestions for who to put in that last slot?

[stuck trellis]

nice

[spiral quail]

I cant beat this for the life of me. Saurous gets almost oneshotted from the belinda or gets stunned but tasi

[inner quest]

how much of an investment is required for Raine to do well?

[pale monolith]

Rowan

[west skiff]

31-60
beat three team
need a suggestion

[west skiff]

i mean which team should I build to pass the boss

[pale monolith]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=60

[fossil acorn]

I've been told daimon is backline, since his shield will be up for longer and therefore he will deal much more damage

[inland egret]

@west skiff any comp ur overleveled

[mellow swan]

Looking for assistance with this stage, and here is my hero selections

[maiden marsh]

nara with call across from mehira

[thorny pendant]

I don't think they have a nara, but that athalia might work

Also you gotta stop making so many L units

[maiden marsh]

good point, athalia across mehira. should be a piece of cake as long as mehira doesn't bat

[indigo fable]

Hey there, wanted to ask for new ways to change my LCT and Arena comp up, any ideas that could work better?

[jagged pike]

I've been stuck on this for a day or two this formation lasts the longest

[fossil acorn]

Been stuck here for way too long. Help?

saveas nails my team hard

[pale monolith]

Ainz

Thoran
Rowan
Rosaline
Arden

[fossil acorn]

I don't understand the ">"

[maiden marsh]

those are the frontline heroes

[fossil acorn]

rosa front? She will die in 1 hit to saveas (like all my front guys u.u)

[pale monolith]

Does Arden root Saveas

Try instead of Rosaline Brutus

[fossil acorn]

he roots noone

I don't have brutus

this time he rooted golu -.-

thing is: my guys are dying without doing skills -.-

[pale monolith]

Arden gets to root Saveas => Buys time=> Ainz ult => Gg
You can also try to put Thoran in front of Arden but Ainz might die

[fossil acorn]

as I said, arden is dying before rooting anyone

[warm swan]

Ditch Ainz. Thoran, Antandra, Arden, Mira, Rowan @fossil acorn

[maiden marsh]

without at least M for the SI ainz is hot garbage

[fossil acorn]

wish I knew it before I read in tree's guide we should garrisson him in the 100-160 point in the game

I've lost the chance to buy magic mythical gear because of the guild coins used for him

[maiden marsh]

that's fine, they're better spent on ainz anyways

[fossil acorn]

Even if I can't use him?

[maiden marsh]

you'll just have to protect ainz better to get his ult off since he needs to charge it

[pale monolith]

Ah forgot that he took time to ult

[hallow forge]

Any tips on how i can get 100 dmg on boss? Only need that for prince

[maiden marsh]

#816792283688730645, they have a pinned comp guide