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[pale monolith]

Rowan is 100x better than Talene

[lapis sparrow]

Ouhh

[pale monolith]

4 grammatical mistakes

[lapis sparrow]

Estrada or throran

[pale monolith]

It's Rowan not Rowland, overuse of the word And, capitalizing the first letter of And, not capitalizing the first letter of Daimon, 5 question marks, capitalizing the first letter in My, no period at the end.

[pale monolith]

Thoran over Estrada

[empty ibex]

I'm on that stage as well, that comp looks fine but remember there's no comp for everything, sometimes you'll have to change positions or heroes depending on the enemy comp you're facing so keep that in mind

[pale monolith]

Nice, but now Belinda becomes useless and you already have 2 supports

[lapis sparrow]

Ya

So how what should i do

[pale monolith]

I swear to god if being an annoying little bitch was a violation of the rules you would've been long banned

What are you doing, deleting your messages to frame me that I violated the rules?

[empty ibex]

Nice! But I think maybe changing Belinda for a control hero would be better since you already have Daimon and Thoran in your comp. Just saying, that comp should be useful for now

[pale monolith]

^^ Good advice tho there is not people you can change for

[lapis sparrow]

Why is his saveas so kuch atronger than mine

[pale monolith]

Ascension level

Also where I am Niru just heals 10m but when I use him he does nothing, that's how it is

[lapis sparrow]

Ooo

[pale monolith]

If Saveas is troublesome consider using Fawkes

[past oxide]

He also means level deficit.

[pale monolith]

Maybe the other way around, his Saveas is 4 levels above his

[past oxide]

I'm blind

[lapis sparrow]

So how

[past oxide]

@pale monolith Just Said

[empty ibex]

Enemy Saveas' seem to have a lot higher crit rate than usual, i think that's why

[lapis sparrow]

Ouhhh

[sand parcel]

whats the best formation of this team? added my two common formats, is there better optimization?

[lapis sparrow]

What stage are u at?

@sand parcel what stage are u at

[sand parcel]

12-15

[vivid trellis]

/no?

oops wrong tab L

[lethal rivet]

will this be doable with enough retries or should i just restart and swap teams

the mehira is giving me a lot of trouble

[summer cedar]

are u trying to cheese or izold? cuz I'd honestly move izold to 3 and have him kill vedan quickly, then steamroll

[lethal rivet]

was trying to cheese, the izold is too squishy and dies immediately

[minor cairn]

Help?

[maiden marsh]

a good start is to put nara across mehira to interrupt bats

[minor cairn]

yep thats what ive been doing but nara literally dies in a few seconds

[maiden marsh]

doesn't matter, she's just there for the hook

[minor cairn]

should i just spam retries then lmao

[maiden marsh]

that should work fine

[minor cairn]

k

[autumn ginkgo]

New player here. Where to spend faction scrolls?

[grand perch]

Hello @autumn ginkgo,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[cobalt gust]

Help pls, would really appreciate it

[true radish]

My hero pool right now

In tower I can't beat this one, tried pulling with Eironn and Nara but that isn't enough to kill Arden in time and I still can't get rid of Shemira's inicial damage even when using Tasi to get her g r e e n, she eats 80% of my frontliner's HP in a single second, the closest I've got is activating Ezio ult but he's the only one standing by then and dies easily targeted by all enemies

In campaign I can't beat this one, I just die too quickly and no matter the backline I pull my team still dies to the fire shield

[vapid field]

Help pls?

[gray rune]

Is this even possible? Ainz not maxed yet. Maybe I just need more levels

[proper orchid]

You gotta get that 3/9 for izold for sure

[pale kettle]

Ninja were u asking for help?

[proper orchid]

Yes

[pale kettle]

I would put in Brutus and ainz

[proper orchid]

Swap for who

[pale kettle]

For feral and silas

[proper orchid]

Aight I’ll try it

[pale kettle]

But put him front line

[gray rune]

Izold worth? I was thinking of investing Daimon instead since their roles are similar

[proper orchid]

10000% yes. ESPECIALLY since you already have a good ferael

Ainz was a good call. Thanks

[pale kettle]

Nice😁

[proper orchid]

@pale kettle how about this one

Silvina beams ainz or Nara but Ferael is the main problem

[eternal pumice]

Any help

[gray rune]

Try having your brutus facing enemy brutus, and Talene frontline against enemy Gorvus with Joker behind her.

[gray rune]

Does Izold require +30 3/9, or does +20 3/9 work well enough?

[proper orchid]

30 is highly ideal but against low CC teams you’re fine

I would definitely recommend it

[full hound]

Any tips for this stage and further stages? Idk where to go from here. (I know it’s early lol I’m a noobie)

[proper orchid]

Sub 100 you should full invest your levels in wukong. Amazing early carry

[pale kettle]

@proper orchid sorry my phone was down did u get it

[proper orchid]

Nah

[pale kettle]

Ainz is really a good power house I'd say just try him

Maybe instead of silas

[gray rune]

Gotcha, just need 2 more furn then

[warm swan]

@proper orchid Try it with Brutus, Rowan, Silas, Eluard, Izold. Barricade on Brutus if you have, otherwise chalice. Chalice also on Rowan, and call on Izold.

[proper orchid]

Swapped izold and eluard but that worked

[ruby drift]

Help

[pale kettle]

Lil stuck rn

[wary cedar]

Smth is not adding up cuz another player had lower leveled and ascended heroes yet they still beat this :0

[pale kettle]

@wary cedar your team looks like it's missing damage mainly

Maybe if you put the sword artifact on feral

[open viper]

help

[pale kettle]

I would try Albeta and Lucius in the front and Belinda rowan and eironn

[open viper]

its got 1 shoted by athalia T.T

[pale kettle]

Rip maybe swap the Frontlines

[river lintel]

Everyone dies right at the end when they are low. I've tried to switch things around but no luck. Suggestions?

[pale kettle]

Can u send a picture of the current artifacta

I would say use Belinda with the horn artifact maybe swap for Damian

But the assassin will go for them so try to set up protection so set her in the mid

[river lintel]

How can I show the current artifacts-?

[pale kettle]

The little icon above charters before the fight

[river lintel]

Ah!

[pale kettle]

Ya swap Damian for Belinda

[river lintel]

Alright

With horn artifact?

Alright so how do I protect Belinda

[pale kettle]

So put her in the mid and hopefully that's enough

[river lintel]

Its not, she dies instantly

[pale kettle]

Dang ok try swapping front line and swap belinda with the top hero

[river lintel]

Improvement, but still fail

[pale kettle]

Maybe swap the dimensional with safiya

Wait swap here with shemira

[pale kettle]

Give shemeria the sword if possible

[river lintel]

Same issues as started

[pale kettle]

Dang idk then you could keep fighting till u get a lucky battle

[river lintel]

Yeah

I dunno either. Thanks for trying though

[pale kettle]

Hope you get through it

[river lintel]

I did it!

Elgard

Brutus
Tasi
QUEEN
Daimon

[fallow ruin]

I'm pretty stuck here

[vocal kettle]

Hali-gali
Any suggestions? Shemira and diam get banishing from fawles and tasi

[foggy grove]

Can someone help with second stage? Tried pull 5 but they all die right after eironn pull

[worn spire]

Need help for that trash level plz

[narrow lark]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/the_world_tree.php?floor=395 could try that

Oh I see its the same. uh Retries ig

[worn spire]

Yes.. But all the time pippa die in first she never play dont know how guys win with that

[narrow lark]

yeah im not sure. If I had to guess they probably just got good rng or just spammed retries

[hushed wadi]

wilder 365, pls, help
i can merc any other hero, i also have A + O gorvo, L+ lorsan

[inland socket]

Trying to push 😅 any advice?

(Swapping eluard and Rowan just leaves vedan alive)

[exotic crater]

not too sure about the new hero eluard, but my noob gut feeling is too many dps heroes, swap one out for a support - too many dps and too few supports means your heroes can't stay alive long enough to deal dmg.
lucius can also provide heals as long as you put him at the top side for this stage. personally, talene and numisu also got me through a lot of the early stages.

lastly, since you have daimon M, might want to try leveling him up as your carry instead of mirael, and have him frontline
edit: sorry didnt see daimon was trial, ignore this part

post the rest of your box / video of the fight if you still can't get through

[inland socket]

Thanks! Him and eluard are trial . Eluard has carried 20 stages so far...he’s insane. But yeah I just don’t know what dps to get rid of

[exotic crater]

well, just change them up and see what works better. a huge part of the game is learning how to adjust your team accordingly - both team comp and position wise. there's no such thing as just slapping 5 heroes on and expecting them to perform well

for now, my noob advice

1. swap out either daimon or eluard for a support
2. put daimon and brutus in front, then mirael and 2 supports behind
3. if that doesn't work, then lucius and brutus in front (lucius top), then mirael + 1 other dps + 1 support behind

for better advice you'll need to post box, (and video of your best fight) - per the channel rules

[inland socket]

@exotic crater This is what happens. All of your combos just get literally one shot .

It could be a case of needing to level up the team

[rich storm]

best wrizz time for my level?

[dull trellis]

How?

[pale kettle]

I don’t even know what’s wrong, I just can’t get past this

[pale monolith]

First merc for a good Saurus, then replaxe Lyca with Cecilia

[rich storm]

isnt merc working for only 1 boss a week? or i am dumb?

[terse cliff]

Help

[wary cedar]

Try switch shem and talene

[twin dove]

Merc works for guild bosses unlimited

In twisted realm also

[pale kettle]

It worked, thanks

[rich storm]

gosh, i wish i knew it before... so many wasted guild coins...tyvm!

[twin dove]

@rich storm unlimited in voyages and peaks also and lab

[rich storm]

ty

[wary cedar]

Ohh that’s neat :0

[wary cedar]

Np 👌

[fallow ruin]

Help! I'm just getting rolled time after time

[royal coral]

Looking for line up/team comp (preferably Shemira main) for chapter 14-10 onward, more like optimizing tho, like which heroes would have better synergies, position adjustment, etc.

Currently using 1->5: Shemira, Lyca, Silas, Daimon, Tasi in that order. Melt lots of things with minor formation readjustment (aka randomly switching them around and cross my fingers)

Not sure if that's the best from what I currently have yet. Tho I figure there'd be a HUGE jump in power once i hit 161 shemira and 141 on the rest, I hope...

Artifacts too, I only have Call Grace Eye Drape atm, Divine Realm blue rotation is a bit too difficult (green ezpz).

Shemira Grace
Daimon Drape
Lyca Eye
Silas Call

Not sure if im equipping them wrong

[pale kettle]

No idea how to beat this one

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me please

[pale kettle]

How do I beat this? Athalia is really giving me trouble..tried it with brutus too
I also have JOKER and QUEEN if any of them would help somehow

[pale monolith]

You might want to consider putting Brutus instead of Talene so he will buy some time, if you have him unlocked

[split oar]

pls help brutus always remains last and ults 1shotting all my heroes

[pale kettle]

I'll give it a try, thx

[sterile dove]

Stuck for a few days now.. any thoughts?

[simple fjord]

Am i just too underleveled for this? Or can i improve my lineup? I have brutus lucius silas lyca and twins too if those can help (i can put them in crystal)

[pale monolith]

Nara/Tasi/Rosaline

Thoran
Rowan
Brutus/Talene
Daimon

[pale monolith]

Unlimited

[rich storm]

tips? ferael initial cc is there as it's what saveas daimon and eironn, if i dont kill saveas early usually he melts my entire team

got 2 crystals slot usable

[past urchin]

Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Talene
Daimon

@simple fjord
Gotta give it a few tries.

[stone holly]

what do/would you guys use for this?

[low bridge]

Help is appreciated

[wheat gate]

What do I use for thane?

[worthy steeple]

I find using Brutus or Talene opposite of Thane usually works with RNG

[low bridge]

@worthy steeple He just gets oneshot (Daimon)

Oh you werent talking to me, sorry lmao

[worthy steeple]

Its okay. Let me look at yours

[worthy steeple]

For one, I would suggest getting Daimon +20 as soon as possible. 2, Daimon is not good for frontline. Try switching brutus, rowan, and daimon so that Daimon Is behind brutus

[low bridge]

His SI is 16 rn, working on it since day one hahaha

[worthy steeple]

Good to hear. Trust me, once he is +20, it will greatly help your Daimon's consistency

[low bridge]

Yeah, till that time Im hardstuck for days now lol

[worthy steeple]

I would try a few times with daimon backline, and see if you can get lucky. Or you could always wait a bit since your not level capped

[low bridge]

Yeah true, ill just keep spamming. Cheers!

[worthy steeple]

No problem

[rancid drift]

very very early game, got an elite faction card, anything i should go for specifically that could make good synergy?

[chilly mortar]

help

[karmic dune]

last stage till ch17, anyone got suggestions

[arctic forge]

Help please

I just get nuked lol

[cerulean cedar]

i honestly don't understand how you can't beat that
(not as in "oh ur baaaad", as in "you have 2 Ascended on that comp")
Try to get Joker to start snowballing and link him to someone higher

[arctic forge]

Who should I link? @cerulean cedar

[cerulean cedar]

if Lucius isn't really tanking, then lucius

[arctic forge]

@takuuuuLmao#1355 still get nuked

@cerulean cedar

[cerulean cedar]

hmm idk
I personally used Daimon but it doesn't look like you have copies of him

[maiden marsh]

Joker can't dodge shemira. He'll never survive there, try mirroring the team for starters

[arctic forge]

@maiden marsh

[maiden marsh]

if you have dura's call unlocked, try putting that on alna so she isn't blown up before casting immunity. if still no, then swap the mirror back, move joker to rosa's position, and swap rosa for brutus maybe

[haughty plover]

Kinda clueless what to do here 😅

[exotic crater]

you'll need a support to round out your comp - prolly rosaline.
going forward you'll want to put more supports in your crystal: you need at least 2 supports in your team

[haughty plover]

Rosaline dies very fast

[exotic crater]

unequip arden and put it on her.
alternatively eluard may be able to work, but i don't have any experience with him since he's new.

otherwise, just wait to level
if you want to push right now, you can post a video for me to try to analyse

[haughty plover]

in which Order would you place them ?

[exotic crater]

does she follow belinda or lucius rn? i.e. who has more combat power atm
nvm: should be belinda

[haughty plover]

lol nvm, just did it 😄

[exotic crater]

congrats

[haughty plover]

thanks

[cerulean cedar]

I used something like
Daimon
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
Joker
for it, I don't think that's the exact comp tho
(daimon 200 M+, rowan 200 M+, eironn 180 L+, Lyca 180 M, Joker 200 M+)

Try just spamming dps sources, Eluard should work pretty well with it actually

[sleek hatch]

Any tips on getting hero exp? im on chpt 22 and stuck on that.

[tulip dagger]

Any advice on team setup for that stage? Currently saving up fodder for my rowan and his SI

Merc not available anymore :(

[velvet belfry]

Eluard Rowan Belinda backline Grez Tasi frontline

[tulip dagger]

Hm getting better results but still not good enough, ferael preventing too many ults with his spirits
Will try some more

[velvet belfry]

You can switch out Eluard for Nemora and put her across from Ferael to try charming him (it can take resets since it’s rng based who she charms first)

[tulip dagger]

Nemore too low, worse results will retry with the first setup
Who should i level up more belinda or grez?

[mortal mural]

I’m so close to the point of unlocking legendary gear and I’m stuck at this part, can someone give me some advice?

[exotic crater]

suspect the breakup of faction bonus is the difference maker since your fight was close
if nara hooks farael can you kill him quickly?
I'm noob so just thinking out loud

[tulip dagger]

The problem, despite the annoying spirits, is that even if i survive the first barrage of attacls bel focuses her ult on niru who tanks it easily
Really need two more mythic heroes for my res crystal to go above 161 with all

[velvet belfry]

Your carry should always be the highest geared and leveled

[tulip dagger]

That would be belinda.. just gave grez some so he would survive more abd maybe get his ult off

[velvet belfry]

Nemoras level isn’t really the issue, it’s just her getting the charm off since fera will put his spirits on the enemy team. But yes Belinda should be max leveled ASAP and geared. You can try switching grez for Lucius to get 4x faction bonus. If the problem is grez dying before he can do anything you can also put Brutus there just to buy an extra second or two with his shield. You can also switch tasi with Lyca since it doesn’t matter if lyca does you just want the haste for Rowan and Belinda

You do want Belinda on Niru since Niru gets stronger the more people die and you generally want to burst him to death ASAP

[exotic crater]

Your primary carry can/should be frontline during early game, esp since you have a Rosa to follow it. Getting hit = more energy regen = more ults = more dmg

Apart from that, not sure you really need the oden, 1 carry is enough. Sub with a support is ideal, maybe tasi.

Lastly, pls only level 5 heroes in this game - your level 40 numisu sticks out like a sore thumb. Reset him and put all resources into only 5 heroes

[tulip dagger]

I see will try, thanks!

[velvet belfry]

I wouldn’t call oden a carry, he works fine as CC support

[mortal mural]

When they all die, the supports aren’t worth adding when oden ccs more quickly

[exotic crater]

My bad. Not had experience with him so just went off his mage class

[velvet belfry]

No supports are still worth adding, just oden isn’t the biggest issue here

Talene is probably useless. Try Daimon frontline and Ferael, Lyca or Tasi backline

[mortal mural]

A level 40 doesn’t get enough resources to be worth the reset, at least when all level ups cost somewhere between 200k-300k, 40k doesn’t justify the crystals

[velvet belfry]

You should reset, it’s only 20 crystals

You will find that dust and exp walls necessitate as much as you can get

40 is actually a significant enough amount to say, definitely reset. It’s different if they’re level 10 or below

[summer cedar]

try lyca rowan daimon backline

[icy parcel]

@tulip dagger post the stage you are stuck and your heroes ; nevermind, saw above

[tulip dagger]

Already did above haha

Dont think its possible just now, can only kill 2-3 enemies on my best runs

[mortal mural]

My main problem is that ranger kills everything in one shot

[velvet belfry]

If you’re killing 3 it’s def possible with some rng but don’t feel rushed

[icy parcel]

do you got Hero Exp items? (2 hrs and such) ; probably would be worth to reset Grez and push Belinda to 200 since carry always oughta be 40 levels above the rest to do best @tulip dagger

[icy parcel]

the one with daggers or the one with the Bow?

[mortal mural]

Bow mainly, dagger can too

[icy parcel]

do you got Nara, she is good to keep her busy

[mortal mural]

No

My units are above

[exotic crater]

What would you think about Numisu with a good totem pole rmg to attract aggro

[tulip dagger]

@icy parcel maybe one or two? 😅

[icy parcel]

Then do that, reset Grez so you can use Dust and Exp on Belinda

[tulip dagger]

Used my 2h xp orbs and maxed belinde, left grez as he was

Cant go to 181, not ascended

[icy parcel]

Oh, right, sorry, didn't put enough attention and thought she was M+

[tulip dagger]

Dw, might max grez too?

Running out of ideas haha stages before were a breeze

[icy parcel]

Might as well do and see if levels help, the root problem is Belinda nor Grez are great carries

[tulip dagger]

Aaaaaaah only shemira with half hp was left

So its doable! Maxed grez and belinda now and swapped elucars for my good old servant.. tasi is helping a lot though thanks!

[tulip dagger]

Waiting for new heroes and fodder, know that already haha
Did a lot of useless stuff back when i startes the game, just came back from a few year break like two weeks ago

[dusty olive]

Am i going in the right direction here? I have the feeling that i should be higher then 9-32...

[pale monolith]

Lyca

Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Ferael

[dusty olive]

Will try that!

[tulip dagger]

Beat it, thanks for the advice guys!!

[dusty olive]

I had no Change. Maybe the heroes are to low in levels

[dense coyote]

Someone who could help me with my lineup for Chapter 32-36? Got hard Mistakes in my champion Priority, but maybe u could help me..

[hidden condor]

Been stuck at 10-40 not sure if it’s a level problem or a team problem, running Lucius and Wukong front row with Rowan Rosalind and Mirael back row

[exotic crater]

Show the stage you're trying to beat.
Lineup and positions have to be adjusted based on enemies

[exotic crater]

Same thing show the stage. Read the rules pls

[hidden condor]

Sorry,

[lofty cairn]

@woeful matrix what stage r u on in campaign

[woeful matrix]

11-11

[lofty cairn]

thats very low for a person with a mythic rowan lmao

[woeful matrix]

Just got him today lol

[lofty cairn]

did you read the pinned stuff in #classic-questions ? your box is a little messed up for the early game

if not its ok since jts early game you can easily salvage it

[woeful matrix]

I did read some of it

But is there anyone to replace wu kong cause I can’t evolve him anymore as of now

[lofty cairn]

@woeful matrix well use daimon since you prematurely ascended him to L for now but really you want more copies of mirael/saves so you can get them to L+ and use them up to chapter 15

campaign team wise i suggest
talene brutus daimon rowan rosaline

[woeful matrix]

Daimon is alr on my team. My team is the top 5 heros

Isn’t Brutus terrible?

[maiden marsh]

Brutus is awesome lol

[lofty cairn]

lol no hes really good for the guaranteed 4 second stall you get especially considering you have no other tanks

[woeful matrix]

I have Lucius?

[lofty cairn]

you could use thoran instead as well i suppose actually

lucius is very mediocre and hes basically crap later

[maiden marsh]

Lucius works ok early on, but later when he gets oneshot he doesn't do so nice.

[woeful matrix]

Oh.

[pale kettle]

any suggestions? been hardstuck for quite a while

[woeful matrix]

That’s a huge yikes

[pale kettle]

ive tried daimon/rowan/tasi as core with belinda/lyca/ferael/talene in last 2 slots

no luck so far

[woeful matrix]

Alright can u give me the slots they go in each?

[maiden marsh]

Tasi brutus joker rowan daimon perhaps

[lofty cairn]

@woeful matrix i gave it to you in 1 2 3 4 5 order just click them in the order and theyll go how you need them to

[woeful matrix]

Oh ty

[pale kettle]

ferael ult is still a big problem for me, do i just pray it doesn't kill daimon?

[real schooner]

When people say Brutus is terrible, they're usually talking late game, and what they're saying is don't invest heavily into him for like SI, furnature, stars, etc. His job is to stay alive and stand on the front line to take damage/agro for your back line, and he can do that without a ton of investment.

[maiden marsh]

Try putting nara across him then

[real schooner]

If Daimon is your carry, then you're always praying that nothing kills him 😉 But yeah try to lock down Feral if possible with Nara/Athalia/Fawks/Tasi, etc.

[woeful matrix]

Just tried out the new team it did not go so hot

[real schooner]

Shuffle heroes around a bit and retry! That's how progress is done in the game! Endless retries x_x

[woeful matrix]

Any

[lofty cairn]

@woeful matrix make sure they all have the ideal gear and artifacts as well also what dae314 said

[woeful matrix]

Alr

[lofty cairn]

if you want you could sc the stage and i might be able to suggest smth @woeful matrix

[maiden tundra]

if i were to do an all graveborn comp for general use/pushing, what are my picks and what slots are they best in? anyone I'm missing?

new (be gentle)

[pale monolith]

Id tou want to do just a Graveborn team I'd go with:
Thoran, Daimon - Front row;
Silas, Naraa, Ferael - Back row;

[maiden tundra]

cool thanks! that was what I had been using for now, but Oden for Nara and Izold for Thoran since i hear Thorans no good till you get his item or something. any specific slots youd recommend aside from front row back row? Nara seems to want to be in " the right spot" when she pulls

[pale monolith]

You mean Signature Item, you unlock it when asceding hero to mythic. I've used Thoran for a lot of time and can say he is good without SI(Signature Item). Oden is a temporary hero so you won't have him after. As for Izold, he is not a tank

[maiden tundra]

oh good to know, I'm used to games where roles are true to what they do, this ones kinda all over the place

[pale monolith]

Usually they are, but there are exceptions

[maiden tundra]

what -is- Izold? lol

[pale monolith]

Well

Izold is a carrier. Weird right? Well you already found out about SI but when you ascend a hero to Ascended you unlock the Oak Inn. In the Oak Inn heros have their own rooms and they can have furniture. The best furnite is Mythic, and when you have 3 or 9 mythic furniture you get overpowered abilities. With +30SI and 9/9 Furnite Izold can be a carrier

[maiden tundra]

oh jeez, that seems so far away at the rate I'm rolling dupes and ascending

[pale monolith]

You would get to that point after 1-2 months of playinf. I've been playing for over 4

[maiden tundra]

par for course with gacha's, I wish I started sooner

[pale monolith]

Waht

[maiden tundra]

when i play games of this style i always wish i started at launch

[pale monolith]

Yeah, same goes for me. Every now and then new Dimensional Heros are added to the game. I missed Ezio just a bit and he is overpowered. The bad thing is that devs don't plan on making Dimensional heros avaliable again

[quasi jolt]

Any tips to get pass this?

[maiden tundra]

i refuse to roll for them if they're that limited

especially if you need 8 copies of any hero to max them

[pale monolith]

JOKER

Rowan
Lyca
Brutus
Silas
Make sure that Rowan gets his ult, if not kight want to consider putting him back row.

[pale monolith]

Dimensionals work a bit diffrent. You "link" them to a hero and after that they have the same ascension level and level as the linked hero. The only downside is that you can't use both in the same formation

[quasi jolt]

Ok I’ll try it but Rowan is having a tough time even surviving first 3 seconds lol

[pale monolith]

How? Mine survived with an 80 level gap and your dosen't with a 50 level gap

[quasi jolt]

I just tried it 20 times haha he gets to 75 percent ult then falls over lol

I wish I could send replays

[pale monolith]

Put Dura's Call on him only

[tough bear]

I'd use belinda instead of joker to be honest

[pale monolith]

I'd not

[tough bear]

My ascended belinda solo carried me on chapters 20-21 with just a legendary Rowan

[pale monolith]

My Belinda fell off on Ch16

And for a lot of people Belinda stopped working around Ch18-20

[tough bear]

On chapters 19-21 I had an ascended ainz as mercenary and didnt even bothered changing belinda for him.When you play f2p and a millisecond is what matters the instant cast of belinda never dissapointed me

[graceful rivet]

how do i beat this vampire dude hes unkillable

[pale monolith]

Damn bro I forgot we had professional opinion givers around here, my bad didn't mean to disturb Your Majesty by being a F2P

[tough bear]

🤦‍♂️

[pale monolith]

In Campaign Brutus works really well to deal with Vedan/Thane. Also you might want to use Rowan even tho it's not permanent, he's the best healer

[tough bear]

I said belinda is fine for chapters 18-21,that's it

She actually can solo carry pretty much the whole chapter

[pale monolith]

Well I say that unless you are going to link her she becomes an investment that is not worth it,just like Shemira

[graceful rivet]

o how does brutus deal with him? i had him in resonating crystal before but took him off because he lives for like 4 seconds then just dies while the vampire dude goes around giving stds to my whole team

[pale monolith]

Well, he buys lots of time with his shield

[graceful rivet]

i can use reinforcements, is there any unit that hard counters him i have nightmares about him he is so annoying i wanna kill him so bad

[tough bear]

Well I dont have an opinion for later or end game,but for now she seems solid

[pale monolith]

Shut up

[slender scroll]

Any thoughts on how I can beat this floor?

[pale monolith]

In AFK Arena there aren't really heros that counter each other. If you don't want him to wreck your team it's best to just put Brutus against him

[tough bear]

Jesus you are actually a moron,my bad wasting my time

[graceful rivet]

ok ill try again with brutus ty

[pale monolith]

Damn forgot we had some opinion givers around here

[maiden tundra]

WHOA THATS WEIRD

[pale monolith]

Well they are a one-time purchase so you can't really ascend them

Usually Dimensional heros are pretty overpowered and can be great support/carriers

And there is Arthur, the non-limited Dimensional

[graceful rivet]

😦 brutus didnt work he just turned into a bat flew past him and killed my team

[maiden tundra]

Oh thats kinda cool. can you reasonably attain them with in game currency and often enough to not pick and choose when you buy one?

[pale monolith]

Well if the problem is him turning into bats you might consider Fawkes

[graceful rivet]

ooo he can banish him right?

[pale monolith]

Yes you can

[maiden marsh]

The exchange rates in game are reasonable enough that as long as you save for them when they're announced, you can exchange for every one f2p (barring ukyo)

[pale monolith]

He has an ability to lock enemies in a coffin for 7 seconds but he might not survive

[graceful rivet]

anythings worth a try i need to end this vampire dude and get out of ch 9

im so tired of fighting him

[pale monolith]

You can merc(request a powerful hero from a friend)

I might be able to help but I think all my Ascended heros are lent, tho I still have 2 Support M+ and 1 Tank M

[graceful rivet]

😅 already used one earlier on another stage with the vampire guy then realised every other stage is the vampire guy

[pale monolith]

My Thoran, Lyca and Tidus aren't lent

[pale monolith]

Well guess you just have to wait till Sunday

[graceful rivet]

damn im so sad im trying to beat ch 9 before the faction resets away from graveborne feelsbad

ch 9 reward is a bunch of faction scrolls

[pale monolith]

Wait till you get to Ch20 and above

[maiden marsh]

Worst case scenario you have to wait 3 days, nbd

[pale monolith]

And I can't even merc, f*ck Niru,Brutus,Thane,Ferael,Athalia

[ruby gulch]

--.-- my Belinda would've aimed at the solo guy --.--

[woven lagoon]

I too complete chapter 17 at level 260

[blissful sequoia]

This stage is killing me. Any ideas here? I can't drop a single enemy no matter what I throw at it.

[heavy yacht]

Any tips here?

[worldly parcel]

So stumped been stuck forever last one I need to pass 240 🥺👉👈

[ruby drift]

Hey guys i need help?

How do i pass this stage?

[pale kettle]

Please help me with the line up

[late echo]

Help with this boss over here please

[jolly stirrup]

All my heroes get one tapped, any suggestions welcome

[mighty sage]

Whats a good core 5 to focus on? I’m using saveas as the carry rn but probs gonna switch to shimera

[pale kettle]

don't take characters to L if you don't have the resources to take them to A (with the exceptions of rowan/daimon)

comp wise, yeah
saveas/brutus/talene/rowan/tasi should be a fine comp for now

honestly you're not going to have a "core 5" to focus on for a while because you're going to end up ascending to A whatever the game gives you the most copies of

i have A belinda/numisu/daimon/tasi and i only use daimon/tasi in my teams regularly

[onyx basin]

I'd need help with 34-60, teams without god comp or at least without proper mehira/twins

[mighty sage]

Okay cool ty

[uncut widget]

Did you look on Bilibili (the Chinese YT)? In my opinion it is the best place to find good end game comps. https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=剑与远征 "34-60"

[unreal granite]

Any ideas?

[onyx basin]

i will take a look, thanks

[worthy sand]

Athalia kinda sweeps me

ping me ok?

[exotic crater]

try swapping out rowan for arden, then move mirael to centre or bot
hope to root vedan and/or kill him before he ults (may take a few retries to get rng right) - that's how i did mine if i recall correctly

post a video of your best try if still can't beat

[hidden condor]

Pretty sure it’s just a level problem, wukong and Lucius die almost instantly.

[exotic crater]

brutus to buy time, but if still can't then yeah just afk

[summer cedar]

brutus rowan lyca daimon [flex] might work

[manic ravine]

Would like some help how to best 30-4

[drowsy gazelle]

truth, send him the comp

[maiden marsh]

swap ainz and albedo, then rowan and tasi. I used daimon for this stage Q

[drowsy gazelle]

he dont have daimon?

[drowsy gazelle]

u have daimon?

[manic ravine]

I have +20

[maiden marsh]

20 is fine, it's what I have

[drowsy gazelle]

@maiden marsh send him my comp then, i dont even know wtf i use now

[maiden marsh]

i didn't save mine for 30-4, and I can't see yours now that I'm past it

[drowsy gazelle]

ehh

[manic ravine]

Tasi insta dies at the front. Should i use brutus there?

[maiden marsh]

She's across ferael and hendrick, so it should just be a matter of dodging

[maiden marsh]

Also: you'll almost always want Ainz behind arthur.

[manic ravine]

Ok ok ill try. I tried daimon tasi fereal lyca rowan. Totally wiped. Still can't find your comp? @maiden marsh

[maiden marsh]

108749280 is my ID. Add me and hopefully you should be able to see my clears.

[manic ravine]

Oh man. Im on the test server. Can't add you @maiden marsh

[maiden marsh]

Aw rip. I can't remember what I used, but it was something along those lines I believe. Lineup was most likely copied from https://afkhelper.nax.is/ anyways

[manic ravine]

Is my level too low? I'm at 272 @maiden marsh

[maiden marsh]

A bit lower than me but if you can attempt the stage, you aren't too low. Q and I are both nearly powercapped in ch30

[sterile dove]

Y'all got some thoughts? Eluard actually stays alive longer than Brutus

[snow meteor]

What should i use for campaign/ go for

[sterile dove]

Look at tier lists for Early game

[meager summit]

To early to really gun for anything deathly specific, but just some info.
Don't L something you can't immediately L+

[sour burrow]

Help

[lusty owl]

wow just got 1 daimon and 1 nara from 10x faction pull

[pale monolith]

I'd go with:
Brutus, Lucius - Front row;
Belinda, Tasi, Safyia - Back row;

[cerulean bloom]

Can someone help almost done with this chapter

Whats the best lineup for it

[manic ravine]

@maiden marsh managed to somehow pass using lyca. Lol. Rngesus is a pain

[vale bane]

Im currently new to the game
Should i upgrade shemira?

[warm swan]

Nope. I would recommend reading the pinned guide on #classic-questions . It's tailored for beginners

[vale bane]

Oh ok thanks

[pale kettle]

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[vital kernel]

Yeah you should reset tasi and level that ankhira instead @pale kettle

Also level daimon as far as you can

Idk how you can be stuck at ch13 with what you have, seems like you should be quite a bit further

[pale monolith]

I'd go with: Daimon, Lucius/Tasi - Front row;
Daimon, Rowan, Rosaline/Eironn - Back row;

[vital kernel]

Btw your question can be asked in #classic-questions instead of here since you're asking for general team advice and not for a specific stage

[pale kettle]

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[marsh nymph]

suggestions? The enemy team shreds me

[cerulean cedar]

no ascended

[proven magnet]

Halp please?

[south grail]

Very questionable characters you built ngl

[pale kettle]

I get that a lot

[south grail]

I think you screwed yourself over. It’s just gonna cost you time

[warm swan]

@proven magnet try it with Daimon, Tasi, Rosa, Rowan, Eluard. Call, call, blade, chalice. Or myb switch Daimon and Rosa's positions.

[pale kettle]

If I get my 1st ascended will it help?

[sweet pasture]

The problem with building off-meta heroes is that no one can help you clear stages. Most players have no experience with your unique set of heroes, so you'll have to find almost all of the stage solutions on your own

[south grail]

You’ve built a lot of characters that won’t really help you down the line

[cerulean cedar]

it'll help but it's not required to beat it at all

[pale kettle]

@sweet pasture @south grail so I basically dug my self into a hole and can't get out of it?

[south grail]

You can. But it’s just gonna take awhile to get the certain copies you need

[sweet pasture]

it's only a hole if you don't want to be there. If you want to play efficiently and follow the meta I would honestly just start over

[south grail]

That’s why I said it’s gonna cost you time. Rather than hitting your head against the wall trying to figure out a weird off meta comp. just could get a decent carry and work off that

[cerulean cedar]

^ would definitely take less time than resetting your account

[pale kettle]

I can buy 2 Belinda get an ascended get the select summon, and dig myself out...would that work?

[south grail]

No. Let me explain

[cerulean cedar]

for a couple seconds, yes. If you want to break past chapter 20, definitely no

[sweet pasture]

I actually think resetting would be faster lol

[cerulean cedar]

depends on how developed their main carries are

[pale kettle]

I have spent a lot of time on this game...I am reluctant to reset

My carries are Theowyn and Joker

[cerulean cedar]

Joker carry is understandable tbh

[sweet pasture]

did you spend any money on the account? You could start an alt and play super meta based while playing your main and see how it goes. I think you would catch your main in chapter progress in 3-4 weeks

[south grail]

I remember being around chapter 20 a bit ago. Mages lose carry potential (like Belinda and Shemira) and you want to move towards more of a warrior or tank carry near this part of the game. I’ve spent awhile with both Belinda and Shemira as my carry but they both fall off around early 20’s

[pale kettle]

A little, I have an alt on a different server so I can switch between the 2

[south grail]

I’m not including ainz or dimensionals in that*

[cerulean cedar]

Survivability is the main problem for most carries

[maiden marsh]

which is why you build around that

[south grail]

Especially with mages^ their less equipped to deal with having all aggro on them (except specific ones)

[onyx basin]

for people struggling on 34-60 (like me) it was crap but this worked

[slender token]

Any chance? No mercenaries left, who could help anyway? Ferael or Fawkes?

[cerulean cedar]

put eironn in for thoran, put rowan in for talene

[sudden flower]

Um can someone help?

[cerulean cedar]

use the merc daimon and try to just shove your most leveled/ascended heroes in there

I'm stuck on the exact same one tbh

[sudden flower]

@cerulean cedar tried but im getting deleted, ive heard mv scales but now stuck at stage 6. But last time i cleared all 20 stages with first try

[cerulean cedar]

Try to level more I guess, my box is weird so idk what to say

[strong comet]

Rowan gets merked instantly

[cerulean cedar]

Rowan's potions still heal when he's dead

[sudden flower]

@strong comet mostly wholw point of rowan is his potions

[strong comet]

I don’t know why im stuck all the way down here when I see people with heroes the same level as mine beating others 20 levels higher

[past oxide]

Pls help

[maiden marsh]

The reason for that is likely shemira. Someone like daimon or ainz can push much higher deficits, not to mention the team you're using is very far from ideal

[past oxide]

Help

[strong comet]

So how do I fix it? I don’t usually use shemira it’s just the team I’ve been trying to force thru with

[past oxide]

Gwen and author solid 👍

[strong comet]

I have neither of those lol

[cerulean cedar]

Try to build a more solid/ideal carry and stop investing in shem or belle for now

Arthur Gwyn is for much later game imo

[strong comet]

Like who?

[maiden marsh]

Gwyn's not the carry to shoot for anyways, long term you'll want a great hypercarry like daimon, but for now eironn will suffice. Try using something like rowan, brutus, lyca, eironn, safiya

[cerulean cedar]

^

[past oxide]

Me please?

[maiden marsh]

Try swapping rowan and eluard

[past oxide]

OMG TYTYTYTYTY

[maiden marsh]

I figured silvina was targeting rowan and making arthur turn around, watch out for that in the future

[past oxide]

Ok thxs

[pale kettle]

Ijusr have no idea how to beat that

[pale kettle]

I always merc that stage its always the hardest one in that chapter xD

[pale monolith]

Maybe try putting Brutus in front of Ghezul and Thoran in front of Ulric

[strong comet]

😐

[pale monolith]

Try this:
Lyca

Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Belinda

[strong comet]

that didn’t work

[pale monolith]

That's crazy

[sharp crow]

I’m building saurus rn as my main carry but daimon seems to be doing a lot more damage

[pale monolith]

Saurus will NEVER be a carry

[sharp crow]

should i focus on daimon then?

[pale monolith]

Yes, Daimon hands down one of the best carriers

[sharp crow]

gotcha, tyvm. should i keep saurus in the lineup tho or swap him out for someone else

[pale monolith]

He's going to work for a whileso don't worry. Also Saurus is AMAZING in Boss Fight

[sharp crow]

ye he very much is. ty for the advice 🙂

[strong comet]

I also just got a daimon mercenary

[sterile dove]

Any thoughts? ;_;

[lilac glacier]

I'm stuck on this stage and can't beat it

[proud edge]

Standard shem team is probably better than Eironn comp at your level

[proud edge]

Check the pinned beginner guide, wukong will carry harder than daimon for now. Build a mirael and she will carry until 160

[lilac glacier]

oh ok someone told me to build daimon so I tried that

[proud edge]

Daimon is great, but he will take over as carry at 160. Before then you have better options to main

[lilac glacier]

ok thanks

wait I don't have mirael right now who should I replace with

[proud edge]

Saveas can work too. But mirael is best. You'll get plenty of copies of her

But right now just make wukong 100 instead of daimon

[lilac glacier]

oh ok got it 👍

[lusty osprey]

Can someone please help?

I don't know what to do

[humble cloud]

Switch thorax and eiron

Rowan in the middle

Need help

[lusty osprey]

Not even close

[maiden marsh]

brutus rowan safiya eironn lyca

[lusty osprey]

It just doesn't work because 2 out of the 5 are elite

I can make Brutus legendary, but, I don't know if that's a good option

[maiden marsh]

the issue isn't the ascensions, and making brutus legendary would be a monumentally terrible choice

[lusty osprey]

Then what what is the issue?

[maiden marsh]

team composition, placements, certain enemies, gear, etc. brutus and lyca being E is far from a problem atm.

[maiden tundra]

Best all graveborn team and positions for general use

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[maiden marsh]

positions cannot be given beyond stuff like thoran probably frontline and fera probably back. it's also massively detrimental to limit yourself to GB outside of their faction tower, but if that's what you wanna do that's perfectly fine. Graveborn are a flexible faction, with several hypercarries and some of the best cc in the game. One GB team would be incredibly hard to give, as you can build around daimon, izold, or thoran, supporting them with any variety of ferael, oden, nara, etc.

[maiden tundra]

it's for an alt, I'm running variety on my main and this one for fun

I'm also brand spanking new basically, thanks for the tips!

[hazy plaza]

hey guys I'm pretty stuck, was thinking I need to rearrange who I have leveled/crystaled. any suggestions? not pictured at elite: golus, skreg, Brutus, and ferael

jk they are pictured lol

[maiden tundra]

so on a fresh account. what do you want the level spread to be like? I've heard to hyper invest but by how much?

example what am I building here?

ignore commons i guess

[maiden marsh]

level wukong until he can't be, and only level others so he can then be leveled higher. this applies to your carry all the way until crystal break

[maiden tundra]

i don't understand the second part... when will he be capped and require investment in the other 4? you really mean i can leave everything at level 1 far into the campaign?

[maiden marsh]

one hero can only be at most 40 levels above the others. once that happens, the rest need to be leveled to allow the main carry to be pushed further

[maiden tundra]

oh wow cool thank you

wu kongs the best choice here?

[maiden marsh]

until level 100 yeah. then he's boned because he's E and you likely aren't getting any more copies, not that he's much good past this point anyways

[ruby drift]

Help here pls?

[maiden tundra]

sprry for the bad questions but... player level 100 or whenever he hits 100?

[maiden marsh]

when he hits 100. player level is generally unimportant.

[maiden tundra]

well hes 65... thats a bit more than 40 ahead of everyone else lol

[past oxide]

Only worry about thane, Everyone else dies...

[maiden marsh]

swap rowan and eluard. if rowan cannot survive, replace eluard with brutus and frontline him instead

[past oxide]

@maiden marsh OMGGGGG TYSM

[pale kettle]

Yo tru7h got an idea about

[hazy plaza]

anyone willing to help a stuck noob?

[summer cedar]

shud read the pins in #classic-questions

[hardy steeple]

Any suggestions on what faction to use my 52 faction pull scrolls on?

[pale kettle]

standard recs for scrolling are wilders/GB

[brave wagon]

@coarse cradle @coarse cradle@coarse cradle@coarse cradle@coarse cradle@coarse cradle@coarse cradle halp

[coarse cradle]

[coarse cradle]

I alrdy gave u the key to success

[brave wagon]

[coarse cradle]

I got the advice from a wise man

[distant merlin]

Help

[pale kettle]

Alright I've been stuck on this damn floor for like 2 weeks

I'm also all for mercing someone but don't know who I'd even use

[dark socket]

Help please.

[exotic crater]

if your team is dying too quickly, lucius /eluard may be useful here - swap in place of rosaline (or one of the others, depending), then adjust lucius to frontline

alternatively, tasi can banish if you feel like you just need a bit more time to get going.

try out different combinations and post a video of your best fight if you need more help. also posting the rest of your box would be helpful

@pale kettle and @dark socket the more experienced players are asleep; this place is usually a bit dead until they get back in ~8-10hrs time

[dark socket]

@exotic crater You should give it a try 😅 🤣

[exotic crater]

mate i am low level - never seen any of those guys before xd

[warm swan]

@pale kettle oh sorry. Wrong stage. Mb. I saw 2 Thoran and immediately thought of 240.

Here you go. Try this @pale kettle

[sacred drift]

i need help

[wraith salmon]

Is this a good use of my Artifacts?

[pale kettle]

These relics fine? Retry spamming but not seeming great

Figured cecilia and estrilda relic don't matter

[warm swan]

Yeah, it was more of Bel. And it was pretty much rng. They all had to gather in the middle so Bel can ult them together.

[exotic crater]

for generic questions like these, head over to #classic-questions ; you'll prolly get a faster reply as well

[wraith salmon]

ok thanks!

[pale kettle]

Yeah she does that but it's just not enough, might try merc a stronger belinda

She kills them all a couple times but the kelthur ghost while thoran res

[warm swan]

Can maybe try to switch in Lucius instead of Estrilda. Seeing as yours has furn. Myb he can survive longer

[sacred drift]

can anyone help me clear floor 300 of kings tower? i posted pics above

[pale kettle]

Belinda gets double taint then so not sure that'll work, I'm gonna try merc a +30/9 bel and use that got a couple in guild

[warm swan]

@wraith salmon eye on Lyca myb? Or on Nem if you want her to charm.

@sacred drift sorry man. I can't seem to find my ss for that floor

[sacred drift]

Oh ight

[pale kettle]

Please help me beat this lvl

[rustic oxide]

I need some help bad.

[inland socket]

Am I right in thinking I can’t push this until I level up a bit?

[drowsy gazelle]

Does
Daimon

brutus
Rowan
thoran
Ferael
not work?

[wary cedar]

How to get past this 🤔

[pale monolith]

Perhaps using Fawkes in the back row instead of Eurald and Eurlad instead of talene🤔

[wary cedar]

Surprisingly I didn’t pull fawkes

[pale monolith]

Damn, his coffin ability is really good

[wary cedar]

It looks super useful

[pale monolith]

Maybe Ferael instead of Fawkes in the last line-up

[pale monolith]

He is but dies extremly easy

[wary cedar]

Shoot that seems hella more useful

[pale monolith]

It is, passed lots of stages cuz of him

[high mica]

good or bad lineup?

[snow snow]

hello im stuck at 12-15. What will be best team to push further?

[high mica]

Hello @snow snow if i may suggest,
Front: Talene and Saurus
Back: Ferael Daimon and rowan It might just work Might

[snow snow]

someone in game told me if my power is more than 50% of enemy it could be doable with good formation

[high mica]

i cant say he's right or not but its up to you

[snow snow]

welp i have no choice cause im stuck for few days and still cant go further

[high mica]

good luck!

[pale kettle]

rlly needing some help here

[dreamy mirage]

I'm getting slapped instantly

[wicked helm]

Hi what 2 teams should i make for pve

[toxic parcel]

I would also appreciate any advice on how to proceed. I can’t quite finish chapter 11, just have a few stages left.

[sand parcel]

been trying for a bit and have gotten close, ira's ult keeps bombarding daimon

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Saurus - Front row;
Rosaline, Rowan, Belinda/Eironn - Back row.
Your carrier is Eironn right?

[pale monolith]

You got Fawkes?

[sand parcel]

yes but my crystal is full

[pale monolith]

I HIGHLY suggest to put him on Crystal

[sand parcel]

that coffin can save me in cases like this right?

[pale monolith]

Yes, probably going to coffin Ira

[sand parcel]

also kaz debuffs defense so he could cleanse too

thanks

[toxic parcel]

For me, my Saurus has been carrying. I had been using Talene for her repeated healing, but I’m at the point now where she insta-dies

My only difference from the suggested was Talene and no Belinda / Eiron, who are new acquisitions

[pale monolith]

Saurus isn't going to carry to you much more,I sugeest chaging him

[toxic parcel]

A shame, he did me good for a while. What does Eiron or Belinda need to get up to snuff? Just levels and gear for where I’m at (chapter 11)?

[pale monolith]

I suggest going with Belinda. She is good till Ch16-20 but then falls off. Eironn is a good carrier but after lvl 240 and is very gear and Signature Item depended

[toxic parcel]

Got it

I’ll play around and see how it goes

[wicked helm]

Hi that's my Heroes what 2 teams should i make for campaign

[fluid bison]

Any LB 380 help

[proper orchid]

Must contain Cecelia and eluard

[urban olive]

Any help with this stage of mystic valley?

[idle marlin]

Any ideas on how to beat this?

[pale monolith]

Ainz

Brutus
Rowan
Eulard/Albedo
JOKER/Tasi
Note:If you decide to go with Albedo than JOKER is a must

[urban olive]

Thank you!

[pale monolith]

Worked?

[worn pilot]

How to beat this..?

[pale monolith]

If your carrier is Eironn than it's not a goodidea to put him up against Brutus. I'd go with:
Eironn

Lucius
Rowan
Lyca
Brutus
Also put this artifact only on Eironn and Rowan. If Rowan dosen't survive enough ti get his ult than just on Eironn

[worn pilot]

I can just use Joker instead, my Eironn has full T1 but only 2 are faction match

@pale monolith tried, but only way Eironn survives is if he's on Brutus

All heroes have a set of Mythic

[urban olive]

Not yet, I'm trying still

[wicked helm]

Hi that's my Heroes what 2 teams should i make

[river notch]

It's Shemira messing you up, at this point you need a new carry.

[maiden marsh]

^

[river notch]

You should make a Ainz team and a Eironn team

[pale kettle]

when in doubt mauler it up

[pale kettle]

ainz with rowan rosa lucious and the 2nd one wi th either thoran cheese or chicken eiron

[river notch]

Maulers are the worst faction lol minus Safiya

[maiden marsh]

graveborn

[pale kettle]

it was a joke xD

[worn pilot]

While.yall are here, can you help me out with this stage?

[worn pilot]

No excuses Ch20 boi
You're here now

[hardy steeple]

Yeah figured, thanks tru7h <3

[pale kettle]

why are't u using skreggles

[worn pilot]

Cause I don't know how to use him
I know he's decent, plus he helps me towards breaking 200 wall

[river notch]

replace fearal with Tasi or rosa maybe possibly skreg

[worn pilot]

No, Ferael's stun is necessary for Joker's All Out.
He helps make him more effective

[maiden marsh]

[worn pilot]

[river notch]

When Tasi puts them all to sleep he also does it

[pale kettle]

omg that emote is godlike

[worn pilot]

that's true, but Ferael activates much faster atm because Tasi doesn't have +30 Rowan yet. She'll likely die before getting her ult off

[river notch]

Tidus is Legendary+

[worn pilot]

Ye

[river notch]

Tidus could scare them

replace new lightbearer with Tidus and they should all be scared possibly

[worn pilot]

New LB is good tho
Tried with Tidus + Ferael
Tidus doesn't activate since he's only.scaring 2 enemies. Ferael is a guaranteed activate for me every time. Plus, Tidus with full Mythic is dying instantly

[river notch]

Ive never used tidus so i would never know anyways lol

I do know the new lightbearer can be good

[worn pilot]

Yeah, he helped me push

[river notch]

Honestly i need to see the rest of your heroes, or if in doubt use talene

[worn pilot]

Talene isn't doing much good for me on this stage

[river notch]

ooooooooh I didnt see Eironn with my blind self

switch the Queen link to shemira and use Eirron

[worn pilot]

Same set of gear*

I can't get Eironn to work, he survives really nicely but he can't do enough damage just yet

Enemies outlast and eventually overwhelm him

I've got enough emblems to take Rowan to +30 once I have him Mythic, that's why I haven't done +30 here yet

[river notch]

ah ok um Eirron tops in back middle so maybe put Rowan 1 Joker 2 New lightbearer 3 Eironn 4 and Fearal 5

[river notch]

Thats a good SI to wait for

[proven magnet]

Halp please or is it just my level deficit being too low now?

[river notch]

Use Tasi, Rosa and Talene instead of the back 3 you have
I could also be more help if I could see the rest of your heroes

[worn pilot]

It's sorta working, I'll keep trying. Thanks @river notch

[river notch]

[river notch]

Did what I say help at all, or no?

[proven magnet]

Im getting dropped

[river notch]

Talene 1, Rosa 2, Damion 3, Rowan 4, Tasi 5 Maybe

[proven magnet]

Still getting dropped 😦
The back 3 dont survive lone enough to pull ults

[river notch]

ok, mess around with those heroes because those are probably the best heroes you can use at the moment maybe change artifacts if you have any

[south haven]

How can I pass this stage if possible?

[proven magnet]

I’ll give it ago thanks bro

[river notch]

[river notch]

I hate that tower

[south haven]

The Antandra just kills everyone, so stupid, all other towers are 370+

[river notch]

how good is your skraith

[south haven]

3/3 full gear +0 right now

[river notch]

switch skraith and numisu, replace skraith with vurk to poison antandra

[south haven]

I'll try!

[river notch]

ok

[south haven]

You are actually a genius!

Did it after 5 attempts

[river notch]

I'm genuinly suprised that it worked, but sweet 🙂

[dreamy mirage]

@river notch what other units do you use in Eironn teams im building one atm

[river notch]

Rowan Tasi Safiya/Fearal, Eironn, and Lyca

[dreamy mirage]

Got everyone of those mythic + except Safiya

[river notch]

you can use fearal instead of her, but i recommend getting her unless you want saurus

The other team is Rowan Tasi Lyca Eironn Saurus

[vast ruin]

Please help

[river notch]

Saurus, Tasi, Safiya, Eironn, and Lyca possibly

I am not good at countering kelthur

[vast ruin]

Nope didn't work

[river notch]

I was stuck on that floor forever

I only had a Gwyneth to work with

[rotund idol]

Should I ascend izold or Silas next? I have the 2 epic+ for both of them

[hushed dragon]

+Cecilia, Odin, and Baden (all E).
I’m going to run Mirael carry to 160. Thoughts on the rest of the lineup?

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions

[stone halo]

help

[proven veldt]

Help

[maiden marsh]

rowan, tasi, daimon, nara, ferael. try something like that, be liberal with positioning changes depending on what happens tho

[rustic oxide]

@drowsy gazelle Im trying now Sir

[drowsy gazelle]

Eh, youre outting alot of pressure on me lol

[rustic oxide]

Its just a game, your good.

[brave oriole]

@stone halo eironn won't do much there, try Brutus rowan Frontline, lyca nara daimon back

[woven mason]

guy I would need some suggestions for defense PVP team, I keep getting hammered to plat everyday and it s annoying. I would just need 3 average teams so that I can defend from some attacks

[rustic oxide]

@drowsy gazelle It does not look good.... I swapped Brutus out for Arthur but that still does not work... Ill keep trying for better RNG.

[drowsy gazelle]

One thing, is ur ferael equipping any weapon? T0/T1/T2 M gear will make him scare slower

[maiden marsh]

^

[rustic oxide]

T2 5* Wep and T1 5* Helmet

[drowsy gazelle]

Take off his weapon, it does more harm than good on ferael since it messes his attack sequence

[rustic oxide]

really?!? Dang. What is the optimized gear for him then?

Well Fera scares quicker now but hes the first to die lol

[maiden marsh]

just forgo the mythic weapon

[drowsy gazelle]

He requires boots as well since it gives a significant dodge

[brave oriole]

Eironn should be enough to kill, but it's too much to scroll up for your heroes to see what and what.

[woven mason]

why weapon affect speed of fear?

[maiden marsh]

don't ask me, ferael's just weird like that

[agile flare]

Ello

So who do I replace kren for? (The top ones are my mains)

[rustic oxide]

I have +20 Full T2 5* gear for Erionn.... still cant get past this damn stage. Daimon is +20 with gear too

[maiden marsh]

first things first, read the guide pinned in #classic-questions

[agile flare]

Ok

Now what

[maiden marsh]

you read all 43 pages

[agile flare]

Yes

[maiden marsh]

so tell me, is shemira a good carry?

[agile flare]

Shemira

Yes I have her

[rustic oxide]

👀 🍿

[maiden marsh]

yes, is she a good carry according to the guide you read

[drowsy gazelle]

Pls stop spamming this channel lol

[brave oriole]

@rustic oxide just repost the stage and your top heroes

[agile flare]

@brave oriole any idea?

[rustic oxide]

@brave oriole

[agile flare]

WOAH

[brave oriole]

@rustic oxide my eyes, just post your heroes box, not all the factions

It's easier to set up a team for me at least

[rustic oxide]

ok np, stand by

[brave oriole]

Try
Eironn
Saurus
Lyca
Rowan
Safiya

[rustic oxide]

ok, let me play around with the comp.

So far, the first 10 tries dont look so good. Saurus insta dies and the rest of the team follows shortly after

[maiden marsh]

any reason thoran doesn't work here?

[rustic oxide]

Having the hardest time grouping everyone up. I can cheese 4 out of 5 heroes.

Get Aurden to ult with Thoran, gg but cant seem to group/link everyone up

[waxen viper]

Whats was your thoran setup?

[brave oriole]

@rustic oxide what's your artifacts atm?

[rustic oxide]

I cant rmember, I was trying to cheese about 2 days ago. Spent all day. I should of saved it. I get a great setup where Arden would always ult after Thoran dies his first time. I could kill 4 of them pretty consistently.

[brave oriole]

Is easy this stage, relax, take a ss with the artifacts on

Eironn should work Frontline with call, if estrilda doesn't cc him

But usually, rowan chalice, eironn eye and rarely call

[rustic oxide]

I cant recall how to show what arts are on what heroes in the hero screen. I know there is a way but I havnt looked at that in a whil.e

[drowsy gazelle]

The little eye above ur hero box

[brave oriole]

There's an icon on middle screen in fight

But honestly, until chap 31, ainz all the ways

[rustic oxide]

Arthur Ainz Albedo all +20. Albedo going to +30 next. Im at 150 reds.

[brave oriole]

Try ainz then,
Nara
Arthur
Ainz
Rowan
Albedo

And i would go ainz first to +30

[maiden marsh]

I would say albedo

[rustic oxide]

Albedo already at 3f Ainz only 1f. I want to +30 Ainz when I get closer to 9/9. I got 8 red cards saved up lol.

Ok so that Ainz comp you posted, not so hot. Only got Ainz to ult once so far. Ill try some more rng

[brave oriole]

Well, i would not use more than 3 or 4 cards for 9/9

[rustic oxide]

haha ya ya ya I heard all the stories about using cards

[brave oriole]

I like eye on ainz, call to rowan and chalice Arthur albedo

[rustic oxide]

kk let me try

[brave oriole]

Later a bit the new mage artifact is much better

Once you unlock it, no idea when

[drowsy gazelle]

Chap29 clears for wind

[brave oriole]

If you want ainz to ultimate faster, works with ainz middle and rowan back of arthur down

[rustic oxide]

yah I hear the mage art is killer for Ainz. I want to get that Ainz nuke cycle going

[brave oriole]

Like
Nara
Albedo
Ainz
Arthur
Rowan

[rustic oxide]

So changing up the arts makes the comp work a little better.... Ill keep trying for rng

[brave oriole]

Well, i guess that your tanks ain't yet full t2, but focus on weapon shoes first

[rustic oxide]

Correct.

[brave oriole]

Nara it's needed for a few stages only, when arden mehira etc, other than that can be easy talene front of albedo

Maybe even now would work

[rustic oxide]

Albedo and Arthur have junk gear for sure. Ainz has weapon and helmet.

Talen infront of Albedo not to bad. Albedo and rowen stay alive a lot longer now.

[brave oriole]

Well, try with rowan middle also, if now it's ainz

[rustic oxide]

yeap, trying that now. Trying dif ainz comps now

[brave oriole]

Save stones and guild coins for ainz gear, albedo die anyway lots, Arthur can be fine for a while without faction gear, you are not yet underlvled a lot

[rustic oxide]

ok cool, thanks for the advise

[brave oriole]

Np, you will pass the stage after a few tries anyway, on chap 29 you will unlock the new arti for ainz, op

[rustic oxide]

Lyca
Albedo
Rowen
Arthur
ainz

Getting consistent ults from Ainz now but Luc shield and nema heals are hard to overcome...

[brave oriole]

Try lyca front

To save insta dead albedo

[rustic oxide]

kk

[brave oriole]

Honestly, even ferael would work for arden
Ferael
Arthur
Ainz
Rowan
Albedo

[rustic oxide]

haha Im doing that comp now. Sub lyca for Fera and getting better results

[slate granite]

What I can merc to get past this? I can also put in the crystal one of the heroes shown there (I have also L Belinda but didn't include her out of shame for L without +)

[woven mason]

there was one trick that I saw in friends replays and I did it as well

put 3 level 1 heroes in backline and strongest belinda and rowan in frontline

I had to do it with a little twist: I took lucius 5star merc in backline and put my 1 star belinda with rowan in frontline

point of this is that nara gets to front line and they pump energy to belinda so belinda can ult and oneshot them and serius

you ll need a lot of retries if your belinda is weak and dies before she can ult but it should work

[pale kettle]

🤔

[rare karma]

Could someone assist with F280 of Brutal tower? They heal too fast and Belinda wipes my team

[leaden thunder]

Stuck on 24-60. Not sure what I could do. Athalia (sp?) Just murders my team.

[pale kettle]

I'm assuming I'm gonna want celerity over sorc?

[gray token]

Cant stop orthos, please help

[lucid trench]

I need help

[limber lotus]

I dont know how to get it, can you help me please?

[ruby gulch]

My front line disappears in second ;-;

[brave oriole]

@leaden thunder try Brutus, ferael back down

[pale kettle]

you have to beat the team that is there with anoki in your team

[dense estuary]

Anyone have any advice on what heroes to persure next? saurus is almost 5 star and im wondering where to go next

[maiden marsh]

oof...stars are worth very little statwise and you have quite a few, instead of more ascended heroes.

[autumn pulsar]

Not sure what to do here :( my normal line up is

Tasi
Lucius/hendrix
Arwen
Lucius/hendrix
Ainz

[idle marlin]

Please help

[real schooner]

Some options:

• Use Gwyn in the middle back to try to get rid of the Saveas asap
• Use Nara to pull Safiya and get rid of her shield if Saveas is too OP for your Gwyn
• Rowan might be OK on the front line in front of Brutus
• Your Ainz/Shem will likely carry you if you can keep them alive

No guarantees, but something like:

Rowan, Hendrik, Nara, Gwyn, Ainz/Shem

Might be worth a few retries to see if it might be viable

[autumn pulsar]

Main issue is everyone getting blown up too quickly

[high mica]

@limber lotus you need anoki there

[real schooner]

You just need to shuffle things around till you get your Ainz to stay alive long enough to ult. Unfortunately it looks like you don't have any great stalling tanks to use. Skreg at M+ might help, but I'm not sure.

[real schooner]

Everyone else can blow up except Ainz/Shem kinda. If it's Ainz, as long as Ainz kills a few enemies with his first ult he should gain enough energy to do a second ult which should seal the deal. If it's Shem, she just needs to ult and hopefully not get murdered by Saveas since he's a butthole lol. That's why I was thinking Gwyn might help get him dead faster 😛

If you need your backline to stay alive just a little longer, maybe use your own Safiya instead of Nara on the top back and make use of her shield to keep them alive.

Since your Rowan isn't +30, he might not be helping too much, so you could try using your 2 tanks as frontlines and just skip Rowan completely. That might turn out worse though since he helps heal your backline.

[high mica]

wait why isnt he using Lucius tho

[real schooner]

If Lucius gets nuked before he has a chance to ult, he's not so great. Hendrik has more HP than Luci, so if neither of them get to ult, at least Hendi stays alive just a little longer.

[high mica]

if only it wasnt a graveborn enemy team

[maiden marsh]

Factional advantage isn't huge enough to worry about, synergy is more important

[high mica]

[idle marlin]

What would be some good stalling tanks

[maiden marsh]

Brutus or thoran

[real schooner]

Brutus, Thoran, Arthur, Hendrik, Skreg, Mezoth, Alna

[zenith fern]

What a good early/mid game shemira team comp?

[autumn pulsar]

Rowan, lyca, shemira, brutus, anyone else

[flint marlin]

Suggestions?

[vivid trellis]

Any suggestions to pass this fight? Been stuck for a few days.

[inland socket]

Any advice here? Waiting on fodder for eironn and Daimon ...

[paper basin]

I got stuck here. I used shemira, rowan, feral, alna, elouard, try use a similar team maybe

[stuck beacon]

Help creating a belinda team

[exotic crater]

this place is for help in beating specific stages; for generic questions like these you should post over @ #classic-questions

[exotic crater]

my noob advice:
try using eluard or silvinas in place of rosa.
if you have beefy frontline heroes such as brutus or thoran might help too

pls post the rest of your box (per rules) or a video of your best fight for me to look through if you still have issues

[warped geyser]

Suggestions? Can't kill the frontline quick enough to get to the backline before they ult and destroy what's left of my comp

[exotic crater]

my noob advice:
you can try moving your daimon around; if the enemy estrilda does her charge / hogan does his sword swing, and daimon may get knocked down which interrupts his dmg output.
you can also try swapping silas for cecilia - if she stays alive long enough the enemy mages can actually ult the wrong way thus saving your team

beyond that, i work better with video; record your best fight and show me if you still need more help

[warped geyser]

Ended up winning with:
Rowan

Izold
Silas
Talene
Daimon
Needed some rng so Izold didn't die to first charge

[exotic crater]

nice, congrats

[vivid trellis]

@exotic crater simply switching eluard in for rosaline worked will see if i get stuck soon after. Oh and sorry for not adding the last row of heroes i didnt think it mattered or was against the rules.

[iron crest]

Can someone give me a hand here? Idk which team comp I should use. Lucius is from test event

Ow nvm this ch is for specific stages

[sudden flower]

@iron crest rowan tasi lyca (shemirs eiron) (wukong shemira) (gwyn Rosa) (gwyn wu)

[iron crest]

Ty

[sudden flower]

@iron crest its temporary tho dont invest in that firstly get ur fodders to l+ read pins in #classic-questions and make ur carry 20-40blevels higher compared to rest level others after, dont split levels equally

[exotic crater]

congrats!
well cos if we can't see your heroes it's hard to make an informed decision - a lot of times ppl have better heroes that they didn't put onto crystal

[sudden flower]

@iron crest

[feral mauve]

Just wondering if someone could help me out with a team suggestion just for general play and any other tips if needed

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions

[sand parcel]

anything I can do? fawkes traps lyca which isn't optimal

[exotic crater]

sorry noob question, why isn't that ideal?
also what's going wrong in your best fight now

[vivid hull]

Is this decent ? I dead ass can’t beat this 💀

[exotic crater]

1. try to get one of your carries frontline; in early game they should be able to do so, since getting hit = more energy = more ults = more dmg
   prolly get them in front of golus (horsey guy) for this stage, then brutus in front of vedan (bat guy)
   try belinda first since she's the higher level
2. alternatively, you can try killing vedan fast before he ults - arden can counter vedan, using his root ability (assuming arden targets vedan), or nemora with a good charm timing

you gotta post the rest of your hero box for more advice

[sand parcel]

iras ult and ardens root destroy my daimon in the end. coffining ira would help but he goes against lyca

[vivid hull]

@exotic crater I did what you said and they kicked my ass 💀

Ignore the ira gold my brother was playing 💀

Just pulled this dude idk if he’ll help or 💀

[mortal mural]

Should I L+ skreg with what I have or just L+ savaes?

[frank dew]

@mortal mural read the latest two pinned guides in #classic-questions

[mortal mural]

I’ve read the guides, and just wanted to confirm if skreg is good enough to L+ first.

[frank dew]

And for ascension questions it's better to go to #classic-questions too but what I can say is that you can make Mirael L+ by feeding those two Hogans and then the extra Mirael after

The guides tell you to ascend fodder heroes pre-lvl 160 and Skreg is not one of those

[vivid scaffold]

Hello guys,
I am stuck on this level for 6 days now, while I really destroyed the previous one. I just die so fast, Daimon is barely able to run 1 ult when 3 would be required to kill everyone.

What can help to win here? Let's include whatever mercenary in the team, I can try request it to someone.

Thanks!!!! 🙂

[exotic crater]

sorry just saw this. i'm heading off already so can't help much.
in general, you might want to play around with different team comps as well the positions they are in - sometimes one change in either thing can make a huge difference.
this also serves as good practice in learning how to adjust your tactics accordingly, as there are many different kinds of fights in this game
ssorry couldnt be of more help atm; you can try posting again later for someone else to give you better advice

[frank dew]

@vivid scaffold If you switch Rosa for Tasi, who does she banish? I'm thinking the problem might be the Ferael, you can also try positioning your Nemora opposite the Ferael and retry until she charms him.

[vivid scaffold]

@frank dew Actually, she banishes... no one?
Like the banishment is when an ennemy turns green, right? If so, this does not happen at all.

I agree with you that Ferael is often a problem, as he delays a lot Daimon's ultimates.

[frank dew]

Try the nemora strat

[vivid scaffold]

It turns out Tasi banishes Belinda, after 10 seconds of the fight. Unfortunately 😄

About the Nemora's strategy @frank dew, what is the visual effect of Nemora's charm?
I've actually never used her for this skill (rather for her healing), that's gonna be interesting to try out 🙂

[frank dew]

Pink heart

[vivid scaffold]

She dies very soon, it seems she always charms frontliners

[frank dew]

There's also the potential of using Lyca and Nemora or Nemora and Tasi instead of Rosa and the merc. Might have to do some repositioning

[vivid scaffold]

Tried 20-ish times

[frank dew]

@vivid scaffold I just noticed that Eironn merc, try Rowan and Brutus front in 1 and 2. Daimon Eironn and Lyca backline

[vivid scaffold]

I won.

First try. You are a genius. Thanks so much!

[frank dew]

[vivid scaffold]

And if finishes Chap 20! Big big help here. Thanks again Kevin 🙂 🙂

[frank dew]

No problem

[quaint crest]

Need any changes? Or make other heroes or something? help me please

[exotic crater]

pls dont crop out the enemies - both team comp and position depend heavily on enemy

[tired terrace]

Can't beat this level idk why but I made it up here with these heroes

[quaint crest]

sorry, I mean if I should change a hero or anything since I can upload some more

[exotic crater]

my noob try, pls bear with me
in order: brutus, eironn, tasi/twins, rowan, twins/tasi

not having high hopes cos eironn not as high level

[empty ibex]

So uh... Vedan is no longer the problem i think. So this is what happens: Silvina jumps straights to Rowan and deletes him in the first 8 seconds of the battle, Vedan eats through Talene and Fawkes is melted as soon as Talene is down. The last two survivors which are Daimon and Mirael start damaging the rest, but then Vedan ults Mirael and Silvina ults Daimon right when his energy bar is full, so yeah, Silvina essentially one-shots Daimon. Any ideas?

[exotic crater]

swap out one dps for a support or frontline. generally you only need 1 carry, or +1 subdps if needed.
can't see the rest of your box so try out my advice according to what you have and see what works

[summer cedar]

brutus daimon arden [rowan<-->mirael]. stop building L heroes

[empty ibex]

Arden is useless, instantly deleted

[summer cedar]

talene queen tasi rowan bel. share hero box if this fails

[summer cedar]

show a screenshot of your hero pool
sorry about that I always forget about silvina bc she's actually a free hero these days.

[summer cedar]

swap arden for lyca. if daimon is not living long, consider swap for talene

[empty ibex]

Daimon is the last one to go down actually, the only thing that takes him down is the absurd amount of damage Silvina deals when a hero has a full energy bar

[tired terrace]

I got couple levels and stuck again

[summer cedar]

hmmm good to know. daimon didn't exist when I was at that level so I'm not totally sure of his capabilities/limitations that early

[mighty sage]

Havin a lot of trouble with this stage any ideas

[summer cedar]

honestly try flipping top and bottom. steixius is easier to get a first kill on

[mighty sage]

Tried it didn’t work. I guess I’m still a little weak for this stage

Would shemira be a better carry at this level? Or is saveas still better

[summer cedar]

saveas is way better. shemira is kinda garbage this early

[mighty sage]

Okok

I’ll keep leveling him for a few days ig

[pale monolith]

Maybe try using Fawkes somewhere instead of Talene? Make sure he survives

[mighty sage]

I’ve tried taking out her or Rowan but my Brutus gets shredded without some heals usually

[sacred talon]

my team survives for a while and then dies immediately after Ferael uses his ult

oh and these are my heroes

[fossil acorn]

https://imgur.com/a/snlcMXr
What's the best team with this roster?

[eternal wagon]

What shouls i use?

[fossil acorn]

have 2 spots on resonating crystal

[plain venture]

Should I fodder a L+ Nuri to make a mythic shemira

[tulip dagger]

Could anybody help me piece together two decent ae teams? 😅

[pale kettle]

Any advice?

[exotic crater]

early game roster is covered extensively by the pinned guides over at #classic-questions
tl;dr, use whatever works - if its your first time, using mirael as your main carry + 2 tanks + 2 supports will be your best bet
from there, learn how the fights / game works and you can adjust as you go along

[maiden marsh]

Stop making legendaries and spreading fodder thin. I recommend the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions

[exotic crater]

generic questions such as these can be asked over at #classic-questions
same for you too mate @tulip dagger

this channel is used for help to beat specific stages

[fossil acorn]

For that acc I follow tree's guides

[pale kettle]

@maiden marsh thabk you. I will check that out

[exotic crater]

that's great! from there, you'll still have to learn how heroes and combat works.
there's no one best team in this game. you'll always need to adjust your team comp and positioning according to who / what you wanna defeat.
thus, asking "what is a good team" doesn't really help.. you'll end up with generic advice which has already been covered and thus ppl are usually sick of repeating it

if you need specific help such as trying to beat a specific stage, you can come back with the necessary screenshots and questions again

[fossil acorn]

thx

Nice 🙂

[ebon hazel]

Been stuck in a similar stage in KT too.