lineup-help

[cerulean cedar]

pain

[drowsy gazelle]

Try sending it for me to understand whats happening

[drowsy gazelle]

Daimon

brutus
Rowan
lyca
Eironn/safiya/nara/nemora

[cerulean cedar]

that's my closest so far but the enemy brutus manages to get the last hit in right before invincibility wears off
I probably have to wait until either merc reset or more Daimon copies

[solar kettle]

thats what i said to myself and then i got a tripple daimon pull got daimon to ascended 1 star and am now hardstuck on the same level for 6 days

[cerulean cedar]

oh rip

oh i just got it putting in nara instead of saf thanks Q

[solar kettle]

being f2p is tough 😦 lots of griding

[cerulean cedar]

ye

[solar kettle]

u f2p?

[cerulean cedar]

bought like 3 1 dollar deals but nothing else

[solar kettle]

ah

[drowsy gazelle]

You can also try
Daimon

brutus
Rowan
thoran
Tasi

[solar kettle]

ok

[proud otter]

Idk who I should focus on this team... I'm mostly getting copies of tanks and supports

[mortal mural]

I read on a guide that you should get wukong to level 100, with some fodder, then stop once he’s at 100, so where should I go from here?

[proud otter]

You should auto ascend

You have an E+ daimon who is really good, id focus on him as much as possible. I've found he competes with shemira in early game and is one of the best characters for end game.

[mortal mural]

I’m f2p btw

[proud otter]

Also I would reset niru and give those levels to daimon

[mortal mural]

So I should reset wukong and level Damian?

Oh ok

[proud otter]

Id leave wukong as is, but it depends on your team.

[mortal mural]

I don’t really have a team, for scenario I’m running wukong, skreg, numisu, talene, and mirael/argen

[proud otter]

I personally would go skregg, estrilda, Talene, daimon, and (wukong or mirael when you get her to E+). But if you're struggling with survival, lucius would be better than estrilda.

[mortal mural]

In scenario, I am pretty much stopped at 5

[inland socket]

So I sort of get 1 shot

I tried multiple combos this is the one that gets me beyond 3 seconds . The issue is the gunner

[proud otter]

Oof. My alts are around those levels and are in chapter 8. Could be further but been lazy pushing campaign.

My biggest advice is auto ascend. There's no reason to have 3 base Elite daimons @Phoenix#6075 and all the fodder makes it hard to see what you have to work with.

[jagged pike]

Daimon shouldnt be frontline place talene there

[mortal mural]

So there’s no reason to keep rares except to use as ascension material?

[jagged pike]

Yea it could help a lot

[mortal mural]

Also, what does auto ascend do? I’m on my second/third day of playing

[proud otter]

Correct. I mean there's the library stuff but you want them to be high as possible anyways.

[inland socket]

And suddenly it was really really easy...smh

[jagged pike]

When you have large amounts of heroes you can ascend all those

[inland socket]

Thanks man 😂

[jagged pike]

Get wu kong lvl 100

As soon as you can

[mortal mural]

I already have him there

A couple messages up are all my units

So once I get another damion, I should try and make him legendary plus, correct?

[jagged pike]

YES

Do you have any fodder

You need 2 legendary+ fodder to get her legendary + then mythic

Then 1 more piece of fodder for mythic+

2 elite + for ascended

[sweet plover]

Rate my set up, should I buy the Joker?

[jagged pike]

Who are you gonna soul fusion

And what chapter are you in

[sweet plover]

I have no idea what you mean

[sweet plover]

11-21

[jagged pike]

Soul fusions are when a dimensional steals the characters level

Kinda

[sweet plover]

Hold up my screenshot app decided it needed to update right this second

[jagged pike]

Im not smart with deciding dimensionals ask one of ur better guildmates or a smarter memeber of this server

[sweet plover]

Oh I see what you mean now

[jagged pike]

Yea

[sweet plover]

Fair and brutal honesty I like it

[sweet plover]

I think that's just what it set to can I change that?

[jagged pike]

Yea but it costs diamonds i think

[sweet plover]

I don't have a lot of those I went through and summoned as much ten summons as I could

This is my first purchase ever too, I'm just wondering if I even need the Joker

I just got rowan, heard he was good

[jagged pike]

Just ask ur guild mates

[sweet plover]

Ok

[jagged pike]

The dimensionals fall of late game though

(Joker and queen)

[sweet plover]

Hmm I see, so it's kind of like paying for a temporary boost and then later off it's not going to be as worth it, I might hold off then since I'm not having too much troubles right now

[jagged pike]

Focus on eironn

[jagged pike]

Yes rowan is probably the best lightbearer

One of the best characters in the game in my opinion

[sweet plover]

Ok thank you

[jagged pike]

Also daimon is pretty good so is silas and thoran

[twilit idol]

OK so before I end up wasting any more precious upgrades, who should I be using in my lineup? I'm new downloaded the game yesterday and now I'm stuck

[mortal mural]

Who should I pick? Or should I save?

[proud edge]

Rule of thumb is to save all the chests like that until you have 7 copies of a hero and you need the 8th to ascend them

[proud edge]

Read the pins in this channel! There is a guide that tells you exactly what to focus early game. Wukong carry to 100, mirael 100-160, daimon after that. Build fodder to L+ first to push your level cap

[bleak bridge]

Maybe save for now, but I would def go with wukong

[pale monolith]

Rowan for sure

[sage beacon]

Is this a good line up or should I go with something else

[zinc steeple]

What to do here?

[proud edge]

You could try swaping saf and nara for tasi and daimon

[proud edge]

Read the pins. Mirael is you best carry option until 160. Always max level your carry first.

[jade prism]

Can anyone help?

[narrow lark]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=25&stage=24 could try this. Mythic Daimon should be fine

[hidden condor]

Struggling on campaign, currently running Wukong Lucius front row with Rowan, Mirael and Luca back line

Lyca*

[proud edge]

Put the lucius levels into wukong,

lucius, wukong, mirael, rowan, tasi

[proud edge]

You are building too many people in each faction. Stop building shem and belinda, and gwen and lucius. focus on rowan and daimon. Lucius, rowan, belinda, brutus, and arden should have this

Any ideas for 31-28-2?

[jade pelican]

Is this a decent lineup?

[proud edge]

For what part of the game? I'd say no. Belinda falls off hard, Raine is used in some guild boss comps and rare late game, warek is alright for mauler tower but nothing crazy, odin is situational, gorvo is situational. If you want a more constructive answer, post your box and I'll give you some guidance

[blissful sequoia]

Any help here? Feels like I'm barely don't any damage.

[proud edge]

Is shem ulting? Do you have a rosa to make her ult twice in a row?

[jade pelican]

I'm at 17-16.

[proud edge]

I meant campaign, arena, tr, guild boss, tower, lab, etc

[jade pelican]

Campain

[blissful sequoia]

Shem gets about one ult off but it's most mitigated by Lucius shield

[proud edge]

Definitely not a good comp. Post your box, I cant help you unless I can see what you are working with

[proud edge]

You could try to swap out lyca for belinda and run two carries

[blissful sequoia]

Shem is also Tasi's CC target, so she's in and out

[proud edge]

Put her on call so she still gets energy while shes out

[blissful sequoia]

Didn't think of that. Let me give it a shot. Was running blade on her

[mild geyser]

havent fought rosa yet but general advice is dont pull her with eironn

[blissful sequoia]

Yeah, still nothing. Getting ults off but Lucius' shield is almost permanently up so, carries getting wasted

[pale kettle]

How should I do this? I always get really close but that Wukong makes me run out of time

[proud edge]

What's the interaction there?

[mild geyser]

rosa sweep and teacups are deadly

[sage beacon]

gorvo and seirus front, raine rowan and respen back

[blissful sequoia]

Finally got it had to run Fawkes and go manual to bust shields then shem ult

[pale kettle]

Thanks

[grand rampart]

I’m new to this game could anyone help me out

[proud edge]

Read the pins, great beginner guide there to follow. Rowan, lucius, tasi, rosa, mirael should get you a long way

[grand rampart]

Ok thanks

[proud edge]

You know the cheese better than I do, any recommended comps here?

[low apex]

Beat the first team but used all my heavy hitters and now 2nd team is giving me a run for my money

[mild geyser]

@proud edge oh its cheese that changes things. Move eironn to 2 and swap flora for ezizh

[mild geyser]

saf out for ainz and maybe try putting brutus in

[low apex]

Ainz only +20 so he ults once and it whiffs, I might need to split up thoran from my daimon/eiron team and cheese one stage

[thick quest]

Any recommendations? For a new formation? Or should I just wait and upgrade my current lineup, mainly Shemira

[proud edge]

what's the purpose of ezizh there?

[proud edge]

Build mirael, use her as your carry until 160, then use daimon

[mild geyser]

energy gain

[scenic lynx]

uh any tips or a better lineup?

[mild geyser]

if you can ult fine without ezizh then probably use lorsan

[thick quest]

@proud edge Thank you

[proud edge]

Put mirael center, put antandra front, remove estrilda and put a support in, preferably rowan

[knotty flare]

Need help with this lab fight, my saved comps are all coming up short

[proud edge]

giving it a go, thanks

[mortal mural]

What would be a scenario team for me to do? Like I know I’m supposed to raise fodder and get carried but I can’t legendary+ mirael or saveas yet, and I can’t get their unless I do scenarios for crystals and summons.

[scenic lynx]

antandra is one shot

[proud edge]

swap rosa and gwyn, with that lineup you are just letting athalia wreck your carry

[proud edge]

Keep using Wukong as your carry for now. You'll get fodder soon enough

[proud edge]

Then try putting talene in front, or putting wukong in for antandra

[spark stream]

Are we allowed to ask lineup ideas and who to focus on if we only 2 days in?? 😯

[low apex]

Read the pins in question channel instead

[mortal mural]

wukong isn’t carrying, I’m stuck on 7-24

[spark stream]

@low apex thank you!

[thick quest]

@mortal mural I would have focused on Ferael instead of Wukong for a hard carry. I would put Lucius upfront. Talene in the back to restore health of Lucius and cycle the shields while Ferael takes care of DPS. Maybe put Skreg or Izold in front (preferably Izold because he can self heal with ability). Finally put Daimon or Rosaline in the last spot in the back.

[shrewd sorrel]

need sum help

[fallen yoke]

What can i replace Ezizh with? For alternative team* i have everything other than ezizh

Am new, chapter 6-20 right now. am stuck

[shrewd sorrel]

need some help quick

[rich storm]

that 2 hypogean mages oneshot my backline constantly in less than 2 seconds from start, ideas?

[shrewd sorrel]

@rich storm try saurus at slot 2 rowan 5 lyca 3 and talene 1

[rich storm]

nothing 😦 the 2 hypo mage have something that instantly oneshot most of my heroes, never happened before

[shrewd sorrel]

try using silvina she'll cc one mage normally

i used saurus, brutus, lyca, gwyneth, rowan comp

[sand breach]

Any tips to beat this lvl?

[rich storm]

tried silvina, she stun and dies instantly, i feel 100 is too low for my crystal heroes

[shrewd sorrel]

ack try leveling thgem and if a comp almost works keep trying its rng based so it can take days or just a minute to beat it

[rich storm]

did it 🙂 tried for a while with nara to stun at beginning but wasnt working, i think i got lucky with RNG or something

[shrewd sorrel]

greatttt RNG can b on your side or can b your worst enemy haha

oh lmao didnt notice u had tasi

[distant merlin]

Need help i have been stuck on this stage all day

Also i could use some advice on who to put in my crystal, im clueless

[pale kettle]

why so much heros level 10?!

shemira
Lucius
rowan
Brutus
Lyca or arden

try that

[distant merlin]

Ok

[maiden marsh]

Unsure of what my current pvp comp should be. Not sure if my Ainz cycle components are too monstrously scuffed to be used to any effect tho. I'll post the box if anyone has ideas for a team. Thanks in advance.

[distant merlin]

Doesnt work

[rich storm]

eiron instead of brutus, lyca instead of saveas. Underleved saveas is underforming and you already have enoguh frontline. Eironn will suck ira into melee

[distant merlin]

Eiron isnt workimg for me

I need to level up my heroes but i do t know which

[ebon hazel]

Any help?

[rich storm]

you are slightly under me and im at 11-7, level is fine, you need CC, your comp has no CC at all. I called Eironn as its the only CC you have leveled

[ebon hazel]

I use a Gwen pull, Eiron Gwyn Estrilda rosa and Lyca

[ebon hazel]

Lyca
Rowan
Shem
Talene
brutus

[distant merlin]

I tried it and it worked but i swear i have already done it

[maiden marsh]

I'm fairly sure I want to have ainzbedo in there at least. What with ainz 9/9 and all. Mostly asking for the last three slots, one of which is surely rowan, other two indeterminate.

[rich storm]

RNG is massive on eironn perfomancer because of 30% to ignore def. Always give like 5 tries to each comp because trying next, RNG might make you see a comp terrible when you just got unlucky

[distant merlin]

Got it

[ebon hazel]

Never used Ainzdo so take with a grain of salt,
Lyca is a staple in PVP
Fareal can provide a lot of support and decent damage

So
Ainz
Rowan
Fareal
Alba
Lyca

[maiden marsh]

Sounds good. Was thinking lyca since I just got windbinder too. For the quick ult and all.

[ebon hazel]

More about the free haste tbh

[maiden marsh]

Of course.

[worn pilot]

Wait, you have Ainzbedo? @maiden marsh

[maiden marsh]

Ye it's in the pic

[inner trench]

Hi, im stuck in lvl 5-32, can someone help me make a good team for that level and the next ones? Thanks

[maiden marsh]

Can't promise the next ones but we can try for this one.

[inner trench]

Okey

[worn pilot]

You continue to surprise me at every turn Tru7

[maiden marsh]

I am surprising aren't I

[worn pilot]

Ch20, and now Ainzbedo but still Ch20
How
Ainz is Op

[maiden marsh]

Takin' my time. Tortoise wins the race and all.

[inner trench]

So

[maiden marsh]

Go ahead and post a picture of the stage and your hero box

[inner trench]

I'll send you my heroes

[maiden marsh]

Reset everyone, bring your top 5 to lvl40, level wukong to 80, then distribute the rest of the levels to the other 4

[inner trench]

Okey

Thanks :D

[empty ibex]

Thanks to everyone who helped me, I finally made it through stage 9-20

[snow raven]

Hi, I was wondering if I have any better team for guild boss? Currently running Wukong/Alna/Rowan/Talene/Rosa

[gleaming oracle]

Pls halp, have tried lots of variations but still stuck :(

[empty ibex]

Tell us what happens during the fight, who dies first and which enemy hero is giving you the most trouble

[gleaming oracle]

Talene dies pretty much instantly, followed by ferael and rowan when estrilda ults, cant get their ults off. Running silas instead of thoran usually does better, but even with lucky silas ult on daimon no one survives past belinda ult

[empty ibex]

Have you tried something like Izold or Thoran instead of Talene (up front)? If your heroes are not even getting their ultimates that would suggest that they're not strong enough and are starting to have trouble

[empty ibex]

Use Lyca or Tasi instead of Ferael, put Thoran up front and/or an assassin right in front of Belinda, like Athalia

[lofty cairn]

nvm i got it i decided to frontline daimon like onestarhotel was doing

[empty ibex]

Good! I was about to suggest changing Rosaline for Arden or Fawkes and adding more burst damage with something like Mirael

[lofty cairn]

arden cc is great but i lose alot just for a short cc that happens after half my team is dead even when he survives, idk about mirael she might work tho

@gleaming oracle im on 14-40 rn and this stage is no joke!

[maiden marsh]

sounds hard

[lofty cairn]

pure damage on enemy team :(

[maiden marsh]

damage tends to hurt yeah

[hazy iron]

what should my line up be?

[solar shard]

So... I can't get past this

[solar shard]

Should I level up Saveas and change Mirael over to him?

[pale kettle]

need a team for chapters (don’t tell me not to make legendaries because i know that, it’s just too late)

[fossil solar]

For the life of me, I cannot beat this level, been 3 weeks. Any help would be appreciated

[lofty cairn]

they both do the job well i wouldn't say u should switch

[summer cedar]

ezizh is the best pick here by a mile. otherwise solise, skriath, and khazard are decent, but nowhere near as good as ezizh

[foggy hazel]

I’ve been using Lucius daimon talene rowan and the twins any changes ?

[brisk marten]

Hey guys been stuck on this level would appreciate the help

[empty ibex]

You don't really need Saveas when you already have Shemira as carry. Try changing him for Rowan in mid backline

[brisk marten]

Ok thanks

[warm swan]

You only need to lvl 5 heroes. Reset the rest and overlevel your carry

[maiden marsh]

Damn, 40+ heroes leveled. Someone didn't realize the crystal existed

[empty ibex]

True, reset every hero above lv 40 and use their resources on your comp, mainly your carry

[brisk marten]

Lol honestly I only now unlocked the crystal 😂😂😂

[maiden marsh]

Well now you'll be resetting like 50 dudes to pump the exp into your 5 with the highest ascension. Rest you want to use go on the crystal

[warm swan]

And maybe now would be a good time to recommend the pinned guide

[empty ibex]

I'm kind of surprised actually, not using the crystal for so long and still having relatively high lv heroes in your main comp. Still, you should reset every hero above lv 40 @brisk marten

[brisk marten]

Ok cool

[brisk marten]

Alright

[empty ibex]

Stage?

[upper pebble]

9-8

[warm swan]

@upper pebble maybe you can now auto-retire those green heroes. Unless you need them for bounties?

[crisp ermine]

What’s a decent comp that’s based around joker for early levels? (120-160ish)

[empty ibex]

Ascend your Lucius to E+ @upper pebble

[crisp ermine]

I think I have everyone except most hypo/celes heroes

[empty ibex]

Also, you need some good support heroes

[warm swan]

I'm sorry, you already have all the heroes?

[maiden marsh]

don't feed ascended tier heroes (4 skills)

[empty ibex]

@upper pebble Try putting Tasi on your crystal. For como suggestions I would go with this:

Rosaline

Kong
Tasi
Lucius
Silvina

[crisp ermine]

Err I have most of the characters on the higher half of most tier lists I guess? I tried looking around for joker comps but couldn’t find any but did find a lot of tier lists and other good comps and I realized I had most of the characters included in those comps except hypo/celes ones

[warm swan]

Sorry if I have my doubts. But you did mention lvl 120-160, right?

[crisp ermine]

Yup

[maiden marsh]

If they've been changing their wishlist after like one copy of heroes that could explain it. Terrible idea tho

[crisp ermine]

Yea I’m kinda newish so I did do that :/

[maiden marsh]

The order is as shown. Arrows indicate frontline

[warm swan]

Can you send us an ss of your hero pool, if you don't mind @crisp ermine

[empty ibex]

Exactly how truth said, arrows indicate which heroes go in front

[maiden marsh]

For the future, easiest way to tell lineups is by simply saying the characters in slot order of 1-5. Number of slots is shown on the battlefield when you look at the ground after removing a hero

[warm swan]

@crisp ermine thanks. It's not so bad. Only 2 L heroes. That can be fixed with time. In the future tho avoid ascending A tier heroes to L without having enough copies to L+. Actually, might be better to just straight up tell you to check the pinned guide on #classic-questions

[empty ibex]

No problem :)

[crisp ermine]

Yea I played afk a long time ago before I knew anything and recently got back into so yea I haven’t touched the legendaries yet since then haha yea I’m going straight off the beginners guide rn

[fallow ruin]

Should i build Gweneth?

[warm swan]

@crisp ermine sounds great. I'm sorry I couldn't answer your original line-up question tho, I don't have Joker unlocked myself so I don't know his comps.

[crisp ermine]

It’s alright thank you anyways!!

[warm swan]

@fallow ruin wait till capped maybe and re-assess which hero you got 8 copies of so you can straight A.

[fallow ruin]

What do you mean by capped?

[warm swan]

When you can't level up beyond 160

[brisk marten]

Thanks guys in chapter 10 due to the advice

[empty ibex]

👍

@crisp ermine imo Joker is not much of a team player (and definitely not a carry), so I would use Joker in a standard comp as you would normally use a warrior. That means 2 supports, 1 control/mage, 1 warrior/assassin and 1 tank

Joker doesn't really have that much hp he's kinda squishy actually, so if I would use him in a comp i would use something similar to this one (depending on the stage it might change):

Belinda

Daimon
Rowan
Joker
Tasi

[crisp ermine]

Ok thank you! And is there maybe a replacement for Belinda? Because I don’t really like using her but if she’s bis then it’s fine!

[empty ibex]

Shemira should be fine, but I heard she is not as good as she was before or at least not as useful. She should work just fine tho

[warped geyser]

Been stuck here for a day, suggestions?

[empty ibex]

Change Silas for Belinda and Brutus for Arden

Arden (with a bit of luck) can paralyze Vedan for long enough for everyone to destroy him with burst damage, that's where Belinda comes in

[warped geyser]

Thanks, should have another Crystal Slot soon, so can put Arden in the leveling group, and Belinda in the slot

[empty ibex]

Before you do that, can you tell me some more details about that fight? Like who dies first and which enemy hero gives you more trouble. Also what was the closest you've been from victory

[warped geyser]

I had a 2v1 with Rowan and Talene and lost, every other time I don't have the dps or interrupts. Usually Daimon dies first even with the triple healing. And yes, Vedan is the worst in the team.

[empty ibex]

You could also try double burst heroes, something like Mirael + Belinda, that way they can melt Vedan and help the rest of heroes survive. Remember to retry a certain amount of times just to make sure your defeat is not caused by bad RNG

Wait, i just noticed, have you tried overleveling Daimon? If he's going to be your main carry you should overlevel him as much as possible @warped geyser

[warped geyser]

I only have the 2 copies, he can't go higher than 120

so I'm pretty close already, waiting for more purple dust

[mellow orbit]

My first boss I’m stuck on any suggestions?

First boss I’m stuck on any suggestions?

[frail chasm]

Would Joker or Queen be better for me to get? And any other advice for a better lineup?

[worthy steeple]

Surely to god I can pass this level at 180 crystal

[summer cedar]

When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool
my first instinct is to drop talene but I have no idea who to replace with

[worthy steeple]

This is the level and my heroes... I honestly think I literally cant go further withpout +30 rowan

[summer cedar]

try brutus tasi daimon rowan lyca maybe. it's about that time where talene's heals won't do it for you anymore.

[worthy steeple]

I'll try that again... i cant put daimon at top or hes instakilled by saveas, but at the bottim he's flooded with totems

[summer cedar]

by definition daimon can't be instakilled by saveas bc there's a brutus in front of him...

[worthy steeple]

as soon as brutus dies, saveas ults and kills daimon

[summer cedar]

strange. guess I'm underestimating how good +30rowan is

[gray rune]

Any help with this stage? Is the lvl/power deficit just too high?

[summer cedar]

first instinct is swap tasi and ainz. if you can start, the deficit is not too high as to be unbeatable.

[worthy steeple]

#VRecorderApp made with @VRecorderApp

Any tips on which formation will have the most luck? Cuz I'm clueless

If i dont put brutus in front of saveas, saveas instakills all my other heroes

[gray rune]

Everything that's not Ainz or Brutus/Alna just dies almost immediately in frontline

[summer cedar]

if u rng enough tasi should blink away a few times. even so it seems like ainz is getting rekt b4 he cna pop off 2 ults where he is.
can try rowan brutus tasi albedo ainz but idk how geared ur rowan is

[gray rune]

My albedo doesn't see to do much if Ainz is backline (she's si10 only) so I tried this, gets pretty close with Ainz ulting twice

[gray rune]

How geared does rowan need to be? I have t1 LB boots and hat, the rest are different faction not stoned. I feel like him being only lv200 may be an issue for tanking. He already has trouble tanking that Silvina

[summer cedar]

a combination of high-ish dodge and his energy mitigate skill
my rowan has 638 dodge which is good for an intel hero but bad for a agi hero. makes up the diff and then some with his skill

[gray rune]

Holy shit I beat it!!! Ainz lucked out on dodges near the end as the sole survivor, thanks

[summer cedar]

👍

[gray rune]

My Rowan only has 358 dodge and the energy mitigation still at 80 instead of 50 per attack.

[snow raven]

Any suggestions for clearing here? I can change up my Reinforcement (Rosaline) and/or resonating crystal units

[summer cedar]

energy loss doesn't actually matter too much in terms of pure tanking. just slows down the ult. the low dodge hurts tho

[summer cedar]

try talene where hogan is and play tasi or lyca at position 5.

[gray rune]

I see, I guess the dodge mainly comes from T1 T2 gear?

[snow raven]

try talene where hogan is and play tasi or lyca at position 5.
@summer cedar Thank you! 5=Talene’s current position?

[summer cedar]

just weap and boots give dodge, but t2 factioned is 540 dodge from just those 2

[summer cedar]

yes. if u empty the formation, u can see the numbers on the floor.

[fallen yoke]

Help please. Stuck at chapter 6-24. No gear to enhance, no hero exp to level. Oh my god

[summer cedar]

When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool or the campaign stage that you are stuck and try to explain what you exactly need because just saying "help me” is not specific enough to help you.

enemies too plz. they should really change the channel description to say AND

[fallen yoke]

yea mb, am stupid for typing the message on my desktop and then sending the picture on my phone lmao lol.

[lofty cairn]

any ideas?

lmao the gold and exp

[summer cedar]

try talene wu tasi rowan twins maybe. if tasi or twins do not ult, swap for lyca.

[fallen yoke]

@summer cedar im actually trying to build this team. it isnt viable for me? am missing one dude

[gray rune]

I see, wow

[summer cedar]

not viable. this is a late game lineup. things do not translate across that many levels. id stick to the pins in #classic-questions

[maiden marsh]

That is a very, very high investment team that will only disappoint with low ascension in most cases

[fallen yoke]

Correct me if im wrong, you can only ascend if you have the same unit, thus it will be better to focus on common units instead?

[drowsy gazelle]

common units cannot be ascended, and yes, fodders is generally better to be ascended at early game

[summer cedar]

if rosa doesn't ult, swap her for lyca/arden/tasi. or just afk till daimon is lvl 180.

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions. you are mistaken about how ascension works.

[fallen yoke]

thank you. so i should actually focus on easier obtainable units like rowan instead of twins and wukong. I shouldnt invest in those rarer units anymore?

[drowsy gazelle]

any celepogean are mostly late game focus. and if youre still at early game, only ascend rare/blue hero to L+, put the elite/purple hero/A-tier hero to crystal

[pale kettle]

@cursive lodge

[summer cedar]

try this site: https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=33&stage=57

[cursive lodge]

5 pull against rosaline is dumb idea.. , i suggest using thoran/daimon

[lusty osprey]

I don't even know where to begin. I can't even kill a single enemy

[pale kettle]

Was doing daimon variants first 20 min

[fallen yoke]

tried what u suggested.. still cant

[cursive lodge]

@pale kettle this comp, change position or swap lyca with brutus ig

[summer cedar]

then u just have to afk some more. that's often the answer this early

[pale kettle]

Yeah that worked thanks

[cursive lodge]

[maiden marsh]

classic daimon comp. ol' reliable

[lofty cairn]

which wilders do i put in my crystal for tower

[cursive lodge]

might be nemora

[lofty cairn]

who else!!!

[cursive lodge]

no one else atm, and better ask questions in #classic-questions

[lofty cairn]

didnt know if this was more lineup cuz asking about my wilders team

[eternal pumice]

Hey

I'm stuck on 8-20

Any help?

[summer cedar]

Post enemies

[summer cedar]

Brutus grezh arden/lyca rowan mirael maybe

[eternal pumice]

Any certain level they have to be and position?

[summer cedar]

1-5

[eternal pumice]

Thank you

[sturdy siren]

question for those experienced with pvp, who should I group with +20 3/9 Ainz?
Eironn +20 3/9 -- Lyca +20 3/9 -- Tasi +10 3/9 -- Albedo +20 -- Ezio +10 -- Rowan +30 -- Daimon +20 -- Lucius +20 -- Rosaline +10 -- M+ Talene +10

[rugged whale]

How should I set up this team with the current wilder heroes I have? I’m not too familiar with how good certain stuff is or isn’t. Just mainly looking for something as a generalist team

[narrow lark]

Best bet would probably to make a dim comp so Ainz, Ezio, Albedo, Rowan, Talene. Would sub out Rowan or Talene when you pick up Arthur

[lofty cairn]

good rng lets me kill most of them so its close to winnable

[sturdy siren]

thanks Rice! yeah these dims keep pushing my Arthur back, or this comp would be a lot easier to make myself lol

[narrow lark]

That early into the game, pvp isn't that big of an issue. Seeing as your approaching Lvl 100 for top 5, I would just work towards making L+ fodder until 160

[narrow lark]

Yeah it has made getting Arthur a lot harder. But he makes a significant change in regards to Ainz's damage

[lofty cairn]

ferael is main issue on enemy team, shemira usually cant outdps daimon heal

[narrow lark]

Could try
Rowan, Talene
Daimon, Arden, Lyca

When you face Ferael, generally you want to put someone like Arden, Nara, Nemora in front of him so he doesnt fear as often

[rugged whale]

I don’t think I’m following here

[narrow lark]

Ah my bad. Are you trying to find a comp for just Wilders? Or just a comp in general

[rugged whale]

Mainly just Wilders, if comp in general then I’d be using Lightners I think they’re called

[lofty cairn]

lol good try rice but i reckon im merely too weak

[rugged whale]

Lightbearer my bad

[maiden marsh]

Lightbearers have rowan, but otherwise not many good heroes to make a comp out of, especially for pvp

[narrow lark]

Oh okay. I dont think you should limit yourself to a single faction, but I'd take a look at the pinned guides in #classic-questions . At your point there is no "general comp", but you can start building Carries such as Mirael to build a team around

[solar igloo]

any chance at a decent pvp lineup?

[rugged whale]

Well here’s just a general list of characters that I have, so...

[twin dove]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[maiden marsh]

For general roster advice, use #classic-questions , if stuck on a particular stage, come here. The pins in questions are indeed good for earlygame players to read

[zinc peak]

I'm still a nub so forgive me for the unimpressive lineup, but I'm stuck on 9-20, any suggestions?

[narrow lark]

Could you send the enemy heroes?

[zinc peak]

Ping just in case

[late rampart]

who should I upgrade/use in my team?

[proper plover]

Lucius and Talene are incredible supports. Wukong is a good damage dealer, and you can round it out with any 2 of Belinda, Solise, Tasi, Ira, and Mirael.

One recommendation I will give though is to invest in Saveas. His raw damage output in the early to mid-game is ridiculous

[zinc peak]

Just pulled estrilda, if that works better than what's already there

[odd spoke]

can someone help me with a general lineup. if anybody can recommend me a unit to grind out that would be great.

[proper plover]

Well for starters have Solise be one of your actually leveled units, since her level cap is 240

[onyx ridge]

Any help? Everything gets instakilled

[hidden cobalt]

Just feel I don’t have the dps

[hidden cobalt]

I beat it nvm

[languid pier]

help bros

[languid pier]

come on, any ainz bros?

[blissful tapir]

Should I get queen or joker?

[brave oriole]

If you can only get one, I guess that joker is better for now.

[pale monolith]

Joker

[brave oriole]

@languid pier I dunno, without albedo it's not great. Have you tried instead of tasi, fawkes?

I would try with rowan upside so ainz gain faster energy

[languid pier]

albedo gets blown up even when i put t2 from arthur on her

ill try to get merc fawk and ill see ty

[trim fjord]

Help plz

[fossil acorn]

Any advise?

[onyx ridge]

Plz halp

[hollow turtle]

Who should I mythic next, Eironn of Saurus?

[pale monolith]

Eironn

[pale kettle]

Been stuck on my alt for 4 days. Any help would be greatly appreciated

Can someone help me please

[cobalt ridge]

Can someone help me with 3 good pvp teams?

For what its worth, Links:
Arthur - shemira
Nakoruru - brutus
Ezio - grezhul
Ainz - skreg
Albedo - numisu

But i can swap of course

[brave oriole]

@languid pier that doesn't matter if dies, the buff will stay on ainz Arthur still. If anything, just try with talene front of albedo

[summer cedar]

what stage is this? it's often recommended to nara/athalia against mehira

[warm swan]

@cobalt ridge Seems like you could run a dim comp there as 1 team, and a Eironn-Daimon comp as 2nd.

[pale kettle]

28-40

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=28&stage=40

[pale kettle]

Ty

[scarlet depot]

Need some help, cant pass the lvl

[summer cedar]

try shem brutus rowan nemora rosa. nemo to charm fera
alternatively stick with what ur running and put call on shem and rosa

[scarlet depot]

@summer cedar

[brave oriole]

@scarlet depot nemora middle, and restart if didn't charmed ferael first

Try
Rowan
Shem
Nemora
Rosaline
Lucius dura's call

[scarlet depot]

@brave oriole Lucius gets one shoot

[brave oriole]

Even back of rosaline?

It's shem Rosa front, and Backline rowan top, nemora middle and Lucius

[scarlet depot]

Yes

[brave oriole]

Well, restart until you charmed ferael

[scarlet depot]

Ok

[brave oriole]

You can use talene if need more heal front of Rosa down and remove Lucius

[brave oriole]

Try with talene how I've said

[scarlet depot]

In front of Rosa?

[brave oriole]

Yes, down

[scarlet depot]

@brave oriole i tried more than 20 times and its the same 👆

[left junco]

does someone know a good lineup for a beginner?

[warm swan]

@left junco there's a beginners' guide pinned on #classic-questions

[left junco]

ok thanks

[brave oriole]

@scarlet depot well, maybe you have to adjust a little, like to swap top with bottom heroes. Shemira should tabk just fine Belinda

[stable rampart]

Looking for some suggestions

[brave oriole]

@stable rampart ainz team should be nice still, maybe you need nara to pull mehira

On my alt that ive passed a few days ago, I've used
Ainz
Arthur
Rowan
Tasi
Albedo

[stable rampart]

Something lile this?

[brave oriole]

Try with tasi how I've said first, it may be better.

[pale kettle]

Stuck on my alt. Your help would be greatly appreciated!

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle not sure if will work,
Lucius dura's call
Talene
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan or Rosa

[stable rampart]

I had a couple close ones so see you in an hour or so

[brave oriole]

Personally I would try to get Lucius m+ soon for lvl 200,will help more than rowan 200

[pale kettle]

Aight I'll try that. Thanks

[feral hare]

Just got daimon, probably gonna kick wukong from the team in favor of daimon, anything else I should change in the team apart from positioning

[wheat gate]

Stuck for a few days anything I could do to pasa this?

[proud edge]

Trials of god frosted final battle. Any ideas?

[mint bay]

Cant do it all week (т-т)

Need to beat it for Golden gates

[brave oriole]

@proud edge you should pull first if add lyca

[warm swan]

@mint bay what was the requirement for that one again

[mint bay]

Formation of one Class @warm swan

[mild flame]

Anyone able to help me out here?

[blissful sequoia]

Any help here? Lyca sometimes dodges the Athalia attack but between Lucius' shield and my Shem being being perma CCd, it's not enough before Athalia ults and just deletes my team.

[warm swan]

Is your Celerity tree buffed? Can you merc?

[rigid birch]

a brutus in the place of lyca will do really good

[mint bay]

@warm swan Celerity at 25 i can Merc easily

[warm swan]

Looks like Celerity heroes is your best bet there. Seeing as you have Eironn, trial Respen, Gwyn, Fera. I forgot which comp I used and I cannot see my own clear tho.

[languid vine]

Am i in a good place right now idk much

[drowsy hawk]

hey, I have Talene and Rowan and Im wondering what is best early progress PVE team for stages and tower. I obviously want to use those two and I have access to pretty much every character from four basic factions. Also is it good to get Arthur soon and should I aim to add him to early PVE progression comp with Talene and Rowan?

[mint bay]

Arthur himself is not a Priority

Rowan + Talene is one of the best heal engines in the game and you can use them with any Carry you happen to have Near Ascended (8 copies) first

[warm swan]

@languid vine a few common mistakes but nothing that can't be fixed with time. As long as you don't repeat it again. Have you checked the pinned guide on #classic-questions ?

[brave oriole]

@blissful sequoia is the 23 60 or so?

[blissful sequoia]

It's 24-60

[brave oriole]

@blissful sequoia I don't think that your Rosa will follow Belinda, it would be easy with Belinda. Make a test
Safiya
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda

[stoic dust]

Is my lineup good or should I level and switch characters out? If so could I get help with which ones should be switched?

[pale monolith]

No offense but your line up looks like you made it with your eyes closed. I'd go for:
Wu Kong, Estreldia - Front row;
Belind, Tasi, Rosaline - Back row;
You don't have alot to work with,you can use giftcodes to get extra heros. (https://youtu.be/rO3_pyXuuwE)

[glacial jasper]

So I started yesterday and have no clue what I’m doing who should I use or switch out as soon as possible

[stoic dust]

No offence taken, that's why I asked. Thanks for your help.

[pale monolith]

Send a picture

[maiden marsh]

Read the pinned guide in #classic-questions

[pale monolith]

Use the giftcodesto get some extra heros then send a pic of what you got (https://youtu.be/rO3_pyXuuwE)

[maiden marsh]

AFTER setting wishlist

[pale monolith]

Yes yes

[glacial jasper]

Who I have now

[warm ocean]

KT 384 keeps coming down to tasi and Rowan v tasi either no dmg happens and time runs out or their tasi one shots with teleport

[mint bay]

Do you need Skriath 3/9 +20 to try 5-pull comp?

[warm ocean]

Don't own a single copy

[mint bay]

if you can Merc still i can give you

[warm ocean]

Sure, I haven't merced just coming back

Don't know what 3/9 means or what that picture means either lol

[clear arrow]

any tips im new to the game and so far it's doing good

[lusty osprey]

Please, can someone help me. I don't even know where to begin. I can't even kill a single enemy

[glacial jasper]

I’m stuck and my team wasn’t working so I reset everything and looking for something new who should I start using I’m new so I don’t know. 5,36 in the campaign

I can upgrade 5 to about 62

[summer cedar]

get wu kong as high as possible. follow the pins in #classic-questions

[glacial jasper]

Ok then who

Or just use everything on him

[summer cedar]

everything until the game tells you no further

[glacial jasper]

Ok

[summer cedar]

u can 5pull with 3f +0. that's what I'm doing. skriath's SI is either +0 or +30 everything in btwn is worthless

[glacial jasper]

Wu king needs someone to help him other than level ones who should I level up as his support or distraction

[summer cedar]

probably either lyca or arden behind him.

[mint bay]

i gave him my Skriath with +21 3/9

[glacial jasper]

I need someone to tank the damage so they don’t die in 2 seconds

[summer cedar]

what level is wu? what lvl are ur enemies?

[glacial jasper]

80 wu and enemies 73

Lyca is lvl 80

[summer cedar]

oh you have more rss than I thought. did not expect that.
try
lyca 60
wu 80
anyone (up to 60 if gorvo is alrdy there)
gorvo up to 60 if u can
anyone

[glacial jasper]

Ok

[summer cedar]

if u somehow have the rss for 4 lvl 60 teammates, take wu to 100.

[glacial jasper]

Ok I don’t think so tho

[languid pier]

ty dud, always helps 👍

[glacial jasper]

Hey thanks it worked but it was close. It’s working way better now I was in a boss battle

[summer cedar]

what order are u placing them in? and show enemies too

[summer cedar]

that looks like you'll need to afk more then. formation looks good to me mostly

[glacial jasper]

Yeah

Thanks again

[summer cedar]

👍

[woven zodiac]

Hey all, looking to get some advice on formations for Legends Challenger lineups. I can get to Diamond-I, but often drop back down to lower Diamond or Platinum.

[feral hare]

Ima bit stuck here

[sinful comet]

Anyway to get that stage done, that ezih basically disable my daimon

[feral hare]

Any suggestions?

[sinful comet]

Put monkey and talene in front , Lucius top behind , Rosalind in mid and Belinda bot behind

[pale kettle]

Idk what to do

[woven lagoon]

Any disruption comp, or outburst them with Ainz

[silk drift]

any ideas?

[summer cedar]

there are some clears here but all higher than u. gl https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=38

[silk drift]

yeah looked it up can't copy any of them

[maiden marsh]

Just merc skriath at reset

[brisk raven]

Help

[civic mortar]

I need 3 good teams for chapter 32

[vocal kettle]

Hali-gali
Any suggestions? Brutus is for atalia. Silvana starts with shemira and kills her. Then atalia kills the rest with ultimate.

[maiden marsh]

if it's the one I'm thinking of you just need to have 3 wilders on your team

[brave oriole]

@vocal kettle then don't use shemira, and she will jump on Brutus too. Use Saurus. Other option is to use rosaline close of shem, and silvina would die faster

[maiden marsh]

you can just post your box here. that's what it's for

Saurus skreg tasi eironn rosa or something like that

what's the enemy team again?

are you dying or timing out

try replacing skreg for brutus. also watch to see if saurus is surviving

try brutus, wukong, saurus, eironn, tasi

peaks of time don't scale with you so you can always come back with better heroes

and btw, an actual merc saurus with +30 would probably work, not L from reinforcements

[fossil acorn]

Do I stand a chance? Feels like I get rekt the second I start the fight even if I go for the stone challenge 😅

[summer cedar]

can u show enemy formation too? enter the formation screen but don't start the battle?
stop building L heroes

[fossil acorn]

Someone helped me but thx, and yes I know grave mistakes have been made already started a second account just wanne see what I can do with this one

[summer cedar]

cool. gl w the other stages

[fossil acorn]

Thx

[trim fjord]

Any ideas plz

[proud otter]

Should i link queen to antandra?

Or maybe Belinda since I literally never use her. I might be getting Joker too though if I saved enough. So he would link to her in that case.

[mint bay]

Move Belinda back and use Lucius instead of Lion so you get Faction 3+2 bonus

[mint bay]

Id go with Brutus unless you have 8 Antandra copies (total) already

[proud otter]

Oooh okay ty I am only 1 brutus copy away from M+ as well

[mint bay]

Id Link Joker to Nemora (Sheep) for Gwyneth lvl 221 stun

As it Will be viable combo for progression

[proud otter]

Awesome, ty!

[mint bay]

Btw you can M Brutus with Saveas already Just sain

I assume you meant Ascend

[proud otter]

Ya I just figured I would wait, since who knows when I will get 3 more brutus copies. Plus I have heard that Brutus M isn't that much better after like L+

Since he is mostly used for his temporary invincibility.

[mint bay]

It is my own bias as i see him better than Antandra cause of +20 SI and 3/9 Furniture giving me 11 sec invincible wall who turns dodge off

[proud otter]

That is quite good indeed.

[mint bay]

But at your point there is no real diff between E or A brutus

Wish you good pulls to get 2 more A heroes and make Gwyneth a True carry (no stun = pain)

[proud otter]

I don't really have any other maulers to ascend tbh. So I think Brutus might be it.
Ya thats very true. Stun would help me a lot

[mint bay]

Mine is build to a good enough point

[proud otter]

Oh wow

[proud otter]

If I link queen and joker to ascended heroes, will that count as 2 more ascended heroes?! That would be awesome!

[mint bay]

I dont know i got my first dims around 242

[proud otter]

It would be awesome if it worked that way!

[mint bay]

Id say no (logic) but some times games are no logical

[proud otter]

Ah okay 😦 I'll give it a try atleast.

[warm swan]

For FoS bonus? Nope it doesn't count

[proud otter]

Nope. In order to level my gwyn further, it says I need 5 ascended heroes.

[mint bay]

Basically for Crystal pre 240

[warm swan]

Huh, I genuinely cannot remember if it does

[mint bay]

Me too cause for me it is ~ 4 months back

[summer cedar]

dims don't count for pentagram. I'm like 99% certain

[mint bay]

Good to know

[proud otter]

Oh

Guess I will be stuck here for another month

[mint bay]

Dont forget to push Faction towers they give good Dust income

And you Will get T1 stones from them eventually

And SG cards

[summer cedar]

I'm also 99% sure faction towers do not drop stones, but their quests technically do

[mint bay]

You know what i meant

[summer cedar]

I do. the asker may not have.

[proud otter]

Ya.. I am mostly restricted by lack of fodder though. Dust and stuff I am fine on.

[primal cedar]

Hello there! I, uh. Wanna finish chapter 23, but the very last battle is giving me so much hell

[summer cedar]

shem lucius lyca rowan brutus maybe

[brave oriole]

@primal cedar this worked for me long time ago

[sinful comet]

Need daimon carry for cheese 😉

[summer cedar]

...what?

[past oxide]

Pls help Why Am I losing To A Spider Boss

[sinful comet]

u need another front line tank , joker is squishy to be front line

[past oxide]

But we need atitlla(Whatever her name is) to stop the vurk from putting traps

[tight swallow]

Should i get Joker or Queen, sry the answer isnt clear for me as when i search on reddit all i see is that both are good, who would be better for my account?

[primal cedar]

I could also get a mercenary Daimon...?

Yeah, I got a mercenary Daimon and Solise

[past oxide]

^

[placid loom]

Is this formation good? I'm pretty new to this game. Any suggestions if it is bad?

[proud otter]

Its not that bad. I would personally replace respen with Thane or Shemira

Also you can reset heroes to get exp/money back so that you can level up a different hero.

[placid loom]

Alright thanks!

[spiral quail]

I cant beat this stage their 2 front liners dont want to die plz help me

[proud otter]

Pretty sure Joker doesn't fit on that team (lack of CC). I know rosa goes well with Saurus though.

[spiral quail]

Ive tried using eirron and joker actually does his slashing thing but then they all die

[placid loom]

How do I reset heroes?

[proud otter]

Rickety cart in ranhorn

Eironn isn't very good until you have his SI and furniture I believe.

I'd pick shemira over him in that scenario tbh

[spiral quail]

No i mean for his pulling cyclone thing to get jokers anime opening throat slashing scene

[placid loom]

Also, Estrilda is a trial character. I don't know who I should substitute her for when her trial ends.

[proud otter]

I think the problem is that joker needs pretty consistent cc. Which your team doesn't really have.

So I think replacing Joker with Shemira might be better.

[spiral quail]

Tried it ( she died before she even attacked )

[proud otter]

She will be your squishiest so I would put her behind Brutus

[placid loom]

Is Belinda+ a good hero for beginners?

[proud otter]

Yes, she is great during levelling

[placid loom]

Cool.

[proud otter]

Wait... is that an E+ Talene?

[placid loom]

Is she or Niru better?

[proud otter]

Oh sorry that was thanos's nvm

[placid loom]

Niru regular not +

[proud otter]

I think Belind = Shemira early on. Shemira becomes much better in the long run but since you get free copies of her Belinda is good early.

Niru is fodder. He's not awful but not great (one of the better fodder imo).

[placid loom]

So Be'linda early on then switch to Shemira?

[proud otter]

Yup exactly.

[placid loom]

Alright.

[proud otter]

Also niru and belinda have far different roles. Niru is more of a tanky support. While Belinda is a dps

[maiden marsh]

don't invest in shemira. simply avoid her. take her off the wishlist, don't bother

[proud otter]

[placid loom]

[maiden marsh]

just use daimon carry

[placid loom]

So is this a better lineup?

[proud otter]

Yes that is far better, I personally don't like hogan much since he is a fodder (not one of the better ones like mirael). I also think Tasi might work there?

[placid loom]

Cool.

Is my formation good?

[proud otter]

I forget at what level Tasi becomes a little tanky. with her dodge and teleports.

I'd just put estrilda where hogan is for now.

[placid loom]

Okay.

So put Estrilda where hogan is for now, until her trial ends, then put Hogan back?

[proud otter]

Hopefully you get someone better than hogan by then. I personally would put Tasi there before him, but whatever works.

Most fights in the campaign earlier on have at most one side that has heavy damage. So I just switched my brutus around accordingly.

[placid loom]

I won so easily.

[proud otter]

[placid loom]

With my new lineup.

[proud otter]

Glad to hear!

[placid loom]

Thanks for the help.

[proud otter]

np!

[hazy vector]

Any suggestions?

[scenic lynx]

best lineup?

[glacial jasper]

I’ve heard that shemira is good so should I save and replace gorvo or keep gorvo and get another wu Kong or something. Also I know I’m way to far for my levels

[proud otter]

Probably lucius, talene, monke, mirael, (not sure who to put last. Ogi might not be bad to put beside lucius, or maybe ferael)

[proud otter]

Wukong kinda falls off in a couple chapters so 1 copy should be fine. I personally like Gorvo for early chapters, but Lucian is a better front line (until late game) so hopefully you get more copies of him. It might be good to use joker in place of theowyn. Not sure though how that would work at that level.

[empty ibex]

Replace Gorvo with Ogi and put Lucius in front. Lucius should tank and charge his ult so his shield affects Kong's clones aswell as the entire team

[glacial jasper]

Like this?

[strange dune]

Can anyone advise on a better arena team?

[empty ibex]

Yeah, and also you need more support heroes and an overleveled carry, try overleveling Kong. I would suggest you get Rowan or Tasi since they're really good atm. You could also put Lucius on front and put Respen instead of Gorvo in the backline, like this:

Lyca

Kong
Respen
Lucius
Theowyn

[clear arrow]

can anyone tell me if my line up is good for where i am, and if i need to change anything

[sand parcel]

switch wu kong and talene

switch Rowan and rosa

your levels are too spread out too, you only need to level up 5 guys and the rest you want need to be on the crystal.

you should go to #questions and read the guide in pins. it really helps with crystal set up

[pale kettle]

Does anyone got like suggestions on what to work/ teams that might work i seem to be just getting stomped with everything currently.

[clear arrow]

just read it thanks, i fixed everything up now

[mint fox]

Is there anyone i should switch out?

Or start using?

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar how da fuck did this lineup work for you

[summer cedar]

retries

holy shit that's embarrassing. only a a 95 lvl deficit. but yeah just retries. might help to have a 37 support branch for the haste - hopefully pop off a few key ones before ezizh goes off. or just have fera interrupt all of their ults and drain energy constantly

[merry thunder]

Any artifacts I should change?

[agile urchin]

Any ideas?

[merry thunder]

Idk how the fuck you managed to keep that ezizh at 0 damage. He kills my tasi in the first 2 seconds lol

[summer cedar]

yeah I ran triple call lmao. prolly not optimal tbh

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar Me just spamming retry 😂 cause that tasi dies right away

[summer cedar]

are you geared?

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar fuck me that’s embarrassing. I forgot I changed some gear around for faction towers 😂

[summer cedar]

[merry thunder]

Beats it first try with gear :/ 😂

[sand parcel]

np glad to help :)

[summer cedar]

gz lolll

[fiery orbit]

Currently using a graveborn team, at 9-4, could use some help as I am stuck

[pale kettle]

Who's my best bet to merc for mauler tower? I'm just trying to get a little progression with mercs while my maulers are so far behind

[wheat gate]

Been stuck for a week or so

[clear arrow]

does this look good ?

[hazy wagon]

It’s solid

[clear arrow]

yeah i get non stop heals, so far it's pretty good

[hazy wagon]

That healing will definitely help keep on pushing 👍

[brisk ridge]

Guys, i could really use some help with this one, been stuck here for a while now

[narrow jacinth]

Guys help I have been trying different formations according to Youtube and retrying a lot each but I never got even close to passing, always get wiped in like 2s.

[radiant vine]

Who should be my first LB to M? I dont need to do this right away, not quite level capped, but I'm close

[tired juniper]

Rowan is normally a pretty good call from what I’ve heard. Also this should have been in #classic-questions just saying

[sand parcel]

any help? I really want to beat this level because I'll unlock the legends challenger and possibly get joker

[summer cedar]

swap brutus for thoran

[sand parcel]

one person isn't even dying :/

[zinc peak]

Any suggestions?

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

mirael should be lvl 140 and the formation works. just afk a bit

[lusty osprey]

Please, can someone help me? I don't even know where to begin. I can't even kill a single enemy

[sand parcel]

would replacing the tank with albedo or Arthur work? I could merc them

[lusty osprey]

...

[nimble fossil]

Who should I use against this team?

[valid timber]

how on earth

[fossil solar]

Any help please

[onyx tinsel]

Any ideas on how to beat?

[eager holly]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

Pls help almost done with the chapter

[frank dew]

@eager holly tasi, Rowan, Lyca, Eironn and Nara (opposite Mehira) try this

[pale kettle]

Need help with this now

[unreal storm]

Super early game... 4-32
Running Eironn (carry), Hogan, Pippa, Arden and Ira. 24K power vs. 34K Ogi, Lyca, Kaz, Nemora

Do I:
a) Just wait for resources, upgrade this team and then sort things out when I unlock the crystal?
b) Replace Hogan for Ogi for full Wilders team
c) Replace Hogan and Ira for Daimon and Izold

[lofty gust]

omg I'm stuck at same spot rn

[worthy steeple]

I'm guessing there is no way to counter fawkes, is there

[lofty gust]

Lineup Advice

[pale kettle]

Nvm beat the chapter got my erion ascended to

[drowsy gazelle]

equip gear on ainz, he should have more att than daimon iirc

[pale kettle]

Tidus doesn't know I have children, comp suggestions?

[worthy steeple]

I used nara, lyca, and talene

and beat the fucking level... I am god tier

[worthy steeple]

I nara'd the shit out of Fawkes with Lyca... finally got it after like 40+ tries

[drowsy gazelle]

gratz

[woven lagoon]

try Hendrik - Rowan - Gwyn - Rosa - Lucius

[glacial jasper]

uhhh who should I use. Campaign Storie 7,30 I need to afk more ik

I know I need Rowan or someone like that I’m trying

[lofty gust]

Retry is best option for fawkess xD

[low bridge]

How to beat this one ?

[round kraken]

Every comp I have seen was like 50+ levels higher than me

[elder cape]

Currently on Chap 5-36, anything I should change and add?

[chilly mortar]

lyca or tasi pvp team?

[bleak bridge]

with joker and ferael I would def go lyca

[slate flower]

hello guys, wanna ask any tips for this 21-9?

[unique pulsar]

Any improvements i can do to 3 teams?

[mortal mural]

What would be a good unit to use my resonating crystal for?

I have an empty slot

[past urchin]

Tasi Id say.
Or Cecilia for guild bosses.

[dark socket]

Help

[eternal ocean]

I'm on stage 24 what should my lineup be

[stiff sandal]

How

[mighty path]

Help stage 29-60

[fallen yoke]

Hi please help. Am stuck here and unable to progress. I do not have purple powder to go above lv100

[versed briar]

Can I beat this (without using mercs)

[sour pond]

I need to beat this stage for a new field of stars perk ✨ ( already used my mercenary )

Any ideas? 💡

[warped geyser]

Breen stuck here two days now. I have 2 resonating crystal slots open, and 3 Mercenary hires. Was thinking maybe slotting in Elite+ Belinda and Elite Lucius?

EDIT: Solved this using Daimon, Talene, Arden, Rowan, Tasi

[sour pond]

Yea spam more 👏🏼

Ppl complain about stucking 2 days insane

[scenic meteor]

We're asking for help same as you

[sour pond]

Go read the pinned guides in question 🙋‍♂️ thats all you need to know

[sour pond]

.

[bleak bridge]

Dude this is line-up and they need help with their lineup. Let them ask.

[sour pond]

Yea but spamming 1. 2. this early . Guides help for early lineups

[bleak bridge]

@warped geyser try arden on nemora. Replace silas

[worn pilot]

Any ideas?

[sour pond]

Help - mauler tower 240

[native compass]

@wispy tartan @maiden marsh I need your help guys! The level of the enemies in my tower is 10 over this stage, idk what to do

[maiden marsh]

Ez

[native compass]

Thx bro! Gonna try it now. Same level as you. But my rowan is mythic 😦

[drowsy gazelle]

as long as hes T2 weapon and boots hes fine. my rowan is M+ up to 29-60

[maiden marsh]

Shouldn't make a diff. My rowan gear is meh anyways

[drowsy gazelle]

maybe thats why your rowan cant tank athalia like mine can

[native compass]

Which artifact on rowan?

[drowsy gazelle]

just call should be fine

[maiden marsh]

Same as my rowan gear. I either ran call or chalice. Probably call

[native compass]

How many tries?

[maiden marsh]

However many it took for eironn to dodge a few times I imagine. Probably not an excessive amount

[native compass]

Alright. 4 call is ok?!

[bleak bridge]

@scenic meteor ainz, rowan, tasi, albedo, Thoran. Brutus would have been really usefull here agianst lucius. Pretty sure that's how I beat that stage.

[maiden marsh]

Put eye on eironn, maybe chalice on rowan

[native compass]

I like grace on rowan

Chalice is good? How about drape for more healing?

[maiden marsh]

He doesn't heal himself. Grace is ok I guess but also kinda ass lol

[native compass]

I do it for the dodge lol

Idk how many try I’ll need. I’m getting destroyed lol

[maiden marsh]

Yeah that's really only why you would do it

[drowsy gazelle]

huh? do what

[maiden marsh]

Use grace. For the dodge.

And hp i guess

[drowsy gazelle]

che, you dont even use my comp.

[slim comet]

Can anyone help me build 3 PvP teams? I've looked at most of the guides but I don't have celepogeans for most of the lineups and some need the same hero 😦 I know it's a lof of work but any help is appreciated!!

[versed briar]

Can I beat this without mercs

[maiden marsh]

Maybe, but that's a level worth mercing imo

[versed briar]

Well I want to save them for 20-60

[maiden marsh]

What's 20-60 again?

[maiden marsh]

Not nearly as bad as 20-58 if you ask me

[versed briar]

Ok then which merc should I use?

[versed briar]

I’m losing even with mercs lol

[unique marsh]

Very new to the game, is there anyone I should replace with skreg or gwyneth?

[pale monolith]

Your heros?

[unique marsh]

Yeah

[pale monolith]

A pic of them

[feral hare]

Current lvl of top 5 is 120 and until I replace wukong with , probably a fodder l+ from maulers, currently on ch11, what would be the best team for me to a. Have now and B. Invest in in the future

[pale monolith]

If you're looking forward to the future ( late game ), you don't have the greatest team since L+ can't go over level 160 amd Belinda and Lucous fall off. Still Belinda is still a solid carrier for another 5-10 chapters. I would go with:
Lucius, Niru - Front;
Belinda, Rowan, Arden - Back;

[pale monolith]

Wu Kong, Brutus - Front row;
Eironn, Rowan, Safia - Back row;

[feral hare]

I know 160 isn’t permanent, I’m asking on characters I should focus on for a generally non fail team to build for going through

Long term investment options and stuff

[pale monolith]

Just go with the team I said,you have 0 heros if you're thinking about late game

[unique marsh]

So no gwyneth or skreg

[pale monolith]

No

[feral hare]

This looks neat at all and I see but in the note of how Rowan isn’t going to get over 120 until I get a 5th l+, what’s the purpose of niru and Arden

[pale monolith]

Rowan best support in the game

[feral hare]

That’s not what I asked

[unique marsh]

Rowan and wukong seem very op

[feral hare]

Rowan is great support, wukong drops off around 130, or so I’ve heard

[pale monolith]

Wu Kong <100

[worn pilot]

Like, any help? Lolz

I'm quite a bit over half the enemy power, I should be able to beat this stage
2/3 power

[feral hare]

Keep pushing?

[worn pilot]

That's what I'm trying to do LOL
Can't keep pushing if stuck

[pale monolith]

Tried Fawkes ?

[worn pilot]

Yup.

[pale monolith]

Dies toobearly?

[worn pilot]

This discord is officially cursed.
I try Fawkes several times to no avail

Then someone asks if I tried Fawkes, so I have the idea to try the same comp again and it passes first try

2-3 times this has happened

[pale monolith]

Try Brutus in front of Estreldia so she dosen't get into your hald

[worn pilot]

I'm good, I passed
RNGesus

And yeah I tried that too. Joker seems to do better against Estrilda, she seems to activate his all out attack ability for some reason

[feral hare]

Rng is somehow a big factor in this yeah

[worn pilot]

Great, Warek and Saveas

[pale monolith]

Joker is op tho you need to pair him up eith someone who controls the enemies like Ferael or Gwyneth

[worn pilot]

Yeah, my Gwyneth isn't built enough yet.
Fawkes seems to be activating his All-Out Attack

[feral hare]

I’m not rich enough for joker 😩

[pale monolith]

My Gwyneth is A tho she doesn't do good enough since my lvl gap is 100

[worn pilot]

Mine is M and only needs fodder for A

[maiden marsh]

a proper gwyn team can work well past a 100 gap. just very finicky

[scenic lynx]

What chapter are you on

[pale monolith]

Ainz is my main carry and I'm not thinking about changing him

[maiden marsh]

not recommending it since ainz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gwyn but just for the record

[pale monolith]

^^Facts

Tho I still want to have Gwyneth since she is amazing late-game

Same goes for JOKER, I heard people they cleared Ch30 easily cuz of JOKER

[worn pilot]

I cleared 3 chaps in a day thanks to Joker after being HARD STUCK

[maiden marsh]

find that hard to believe, clearing 30 because of joker

[pale monolith]

I cleared 4 Chaps in a week thanks to Ainz

[worn pilot]

Nice, I wasn't around for him.
My old acc was around way before Arthur but I quit early on so I never got to see those early Dims

Wouldn't have come back if it wasn't for my f2p C34 friend

[pale monolith]

Daamn

[worn pilot]

Hes 334M*

[pale monolith]

Ch34 and F2P, that's a rare sight

Gtg

[worn pilot]

Cya.

[nimble fossil]

Who should I use?

[inland socket]

any solutions? I tried replacing eironn with talene / tasi / the other healer...all to like 0 success

[sour pond]

I need to beat this stage for a new field of stars perk ✨ ( already used my mercenary )

Any ideas? 💡

[summer cedar]

I ran a backline merced tidus for that one. he can dodge and then fear athalia but idk if that'll work at M

[sour pond]

Ok ty 👌🏼

[languid pier]

someone smart please assist, those graveborn cunts always always give me issues

[rose steeple]

Any ideas for a 5th hero? Working on a pvp team idea

Can be anyone. Just want to make daimon good in pvp

[maiden marsh]

try mirroring your comp

[clear arrow]

should i change someone or move someone?

[hexed lark]

Any help on a good lineup or someone I should maybe add to my crystal. Capped at mid chap 23 currently and I’ve read about people sailing to 25 at a similar level I feel. Also should I leave oden at M and start focusing on daimon? Finally got enough copies to get daimon to A but oden is so close, just not sure if he’s worth it.

[sour pond]

Try more wilders like saurus, eironn, lyca you are dealing with graveborns

[sharp junco]

arthur albedo front, ainz rowan tasi back, try switching ainz with tasi and albedo with arthur(at the same time) too..use the book artifact for ainz if u have it

[feral hare]

11

[summer cedar]

for single team just put rowan at 4. daimon is always gonna be better at pve bc he scales to enemies, but when enemies are pretty close to you, it's not gonna perform as well.

[empty ibex]

Daimon up front, you don't really need Eirron there, try changing him for Talene aswell

[lofty gust]

Need 2 ( if possible 3 ) Lineup for Legend Arena please.

[empty ibex]

@inland socket If you still have trouble against that stupid Vedan, maybe what you need is more stopping power (Burst damage), in that case just put Daimon and Talene up front and change Eirron for Belinda like this:

Belinda

Talene
Rowan
Daimon
Shemira

[brisk marten]

Is any lineup without using the mercenaries possible to beat this level?

[alpine charm]

What are some good lineups to add/use with Joker & Queen?

[inland socket]

Thank you so so much!

[hexed lark]

@brisk marten I would probably take some levels off your other characters and max out Saveas. You should be able to take him to 160 and he can carry you for a bit. I’d also cut down on making so many legendary heroes You should really focus on getting 5 to ascended putting all your efforts there. Look at ones you can get in the stores to start off (ie shemira, nemora). Otherwise you are wasting a ton of fodder and kneecapping yourself.

[brisk marten]

I already did only 5 are leveled and the rest are in the crystal

[mighty path]

Help! stage 29-60

[unique marsh]

New to the game, are there any heroes I should swap out?

[mighty path]

i don't have Ferael 😦

[maiden marsh]

Not a single copy?

[mighty path]

it's just too weak

[maiden marsh]

Might still work. You have 40 levels on me after all

[low bridge]

Does someone have tips?

[quartz bridge]

Try
Daimon
Brutus
Eirron
Talene
Mira
🤔

@low bridge

[low bridge]

It didnt work, but it was a lot better than previous tries. Thanks! @quartz bridge

[maiden marsh]

If you only tried once that's not enough btw

[quartz bridge]

Probably swap out Mira for Nara if it wont work after a couple of tries

[low bridge]

@quartz bridge It worked thanks man!

I didnt think about that setup, works pretty good

[quartz bridge]

@low bridge im glad it worked, usually with Daimon you have to hide him in a corner behind a tank

[past oxide]

@quartz bridge Yo Hey Phiree hElP mEh

[quartz bridge]

@past oxide wow fancy seeing u here 😆

[past oxide]

Ikr

@quartz bridge You dead? You Got Thoarned Cheesed? I guess he did 💩

[quartz bridge]

@past oxide have u tried using Shem?

[past oxide]

The Top 1 Baddest Graveborn? Nah She Won't Get Her Ult

[quartz bridge]

Idk how to work with Gwen :v

Even with call artifact?

[past oxide]

She needs Duras Blade

[inland socket]

@empty ibex sadly this results in a literal one shot

[pale kettle]

She works good with Eye too, she wont work very good against that team as most of them move up and her arrow isnt going to hit the back row as it usually does.

[maiden marsh]

she likes eye, and she hates not having her stun skill unlocked

[quartz bridge]

I told him that 😆

[pale kettle]

Her stun unlocks at like 221 or somet right?

[maiden marsh]

201 I think

[past oxide]

Your early game and levels are VERY important at that stage

I suggest you use Dreaf(I mean the Eirron You Merced If You Can't level up

[quartz bridge]

@past oxide does joker's all-out attack skill proc?

[past oxide]

Yep He sometimes does more damage then gwen without the author buff

[quartz bridge]

Huh i thought that only proc if u CC 3 or more enemies

[past oxide]

Yeah when joker gets his all out attack after using his ult

[quartz bridge]

Try
Ferael
Arthur
Joker
Brutus
Gwen
if you havent

[past oxide]

@quartz bridge Thxs It Totally Worked!

[unique marsh]

Should I swap anyone?

[maiden marsh]

you aren't understanding the lineup they're suggesting. ferael backline, brutus front

[pale kettle]

if i put eirron in the middle would that help it?,idk how to counter that healing

[quartz bridge]

@past oxide idk how u got this wrong lmao

[past oxide]

You should use dreaf I mean Tasi To Banish

[pale kettle]

i tried that but she still manages to heal somehow

[past oxide]

Welp you have nara?

[quartz bridge]

@unique marsh its a great lineup... Eirron pull comp

[unique marsh]

I see a lot of people running gwyneth, should I not swap her in for anyone?

[twin hare]

mauler tower 300 - is this winnable?

[pale kettle]

lol i had nimora left and lost on timeup

[quartz bridge]

Maybe not, someone said she works great with her stun but you wont unlock that till she's lvl 200+

[unique marsh]

I heard wu kong becomes less useful later on, would she be someone I swap in for him or someone else?

[pale kettle]

Wukong is just good till you get him to 100

You should check #classic-questions for starting tips.

[quartz bridge]

@unique marsh you can try and read the beginners guide... Really useful

[pale kettle]

What to do ?

[quartz bridge]

What happens if u put Gwen in the middle?

[pale kettle]

She gets webbed and the rest of the team get wipped, in a few hits.

[hidden kraken]

Can i get a lineup for this stage? This satrana pissed me off really bad

[quartz bridge]

Maybe Seveas carry? 🤔

[pale kettle]

Should I derank Gwen for it ?

[quartz bridge]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=52

[quartz bridge]

No no. Maybe swap him out with Daimon

Then Feral from Rowan? 😐

[pale kettle]

Still no work, this might be just a time to wait for level ups or wait till i get joker maybe.

[hidden kraken]

Thank you very much!

[quartz bridge]

Final try
Ferael
Shem
Rowan
Gwen
Fawkes
🤔🤔

[pale kettle]

The gwenth tank.

[quartz bridge]

I saw a ss with Belinda L+ tanking... Maybe Gwen can do same?

[pale kettle]

She can tank, however Fawkes banishes, the first unit she's about to hit with the first arrow. But everyone else seems to die.

[quartz bridge]

Aweee

Fawkes swap for Seveas then? He did decent dmg

[pale kettle]

He basically did nothing but i swapped him to stitchy and he did okay

[shut sentinel]

Im kinda stuck on ch 10 what should i use as lineup

[pale kettle]

You should read the starter guide for one, you seem to be wasting alot of resources too early.

[shut sentinel]

Well fuck. Guess thats that xD

[distant merlin]

Help (please dont ask why i have so many lvl 10’s unless your genuinely curious for some reason so many people here ask me, practically everytime i show my heroes)

Also should i use my shemira. From my experience shes trash

[shut sentinel]

@pale kettle question is should i just start a new acc or is it still saveable for now xD

[distant merlin]

You should only be getting heroes to legendary if you can make them legend plus since you might never get another copy and it would just be a waste of fodder. You can still save your account though

[pale kettle]

Yeah what they said however if you find your self not really having fun and the account being too slow i'd start a new one and just go in with new things that you've learnt.

[distant merlin]

Should i start a new account? I have been stuck on ch 9 for 3 days

[shut sentinel]

dunno man ive been having fun with Daimon but im just having trouble surviving in ch 9 and 10

not sure if its lineup problems or just generally being underlvled

ch9 seems to be a choke point due to bat dude atleast thats how i felt

[cobalt rain]

Can anyone help me here with the line up? They kill me really fast...

[cobalt rain]

Daimon helps me against Vedan quite a lot

I try to put him opposite

At lvl 1 yes

[shut sentinel]

i hope i didnt fuck my acc too much ... didnt think i fucked it that much and bought the Chapter clearing thing so uhhhhh

[cobalt rain]

No free slot in crystal and she is e

Thoran you mean?

Don‘t think that‘s working

[haughty peak]

Did tasi get even close to sleeping?

[worthy steeple]

Any help? Why is campaign lucius thane so fucking OP campared to player Lucius and thane?

[cobalt rain]

Not sure, how do I tell? Most of the time she’s killed quite fast. Once in a while she might be close but never got her so far that she could cast it

[haughty peak]

Try putting her on the middle back and lucius in her previous spot. Pay attention to her during the fight to see if she stays alive enough to stasis and how close to sleep she gets

If you have gear on lucius that is