lineup-help

[proud edge]

I have Ezio, I was running talene because the link doesn't really matter for her. Tasi isnt at full energy so I cant stop the link

[hallow kettle]

yeahh u might wanna restart the map tbh, having tasi instasleep everyone at the start of battles is so incredibly powerful

[proud edge]

Yeah I'd rather not, took me a while to get her with the rng, hoping I can solve it rather than repeating

[hallow kettle]

u can try to use eironn+lyca to outsucc the... enemy eironn i guess by replacing twins and saurus/talene unless ur taking debuffs that decrease your haste/increase enemy haste or something

[pale kettle]

I’m stuck on this level

[proud edge]

Yeah they get haste increase below 60% health. So far Saurus, Tasi, Ezizh, Rowan, Twins gets closest. But ezizh gets popped somewhere along the way. Any idea on artifacts to use?

[hallow kettle]

artifacts don't matter on trials of god, they don't do anything. gear as well, only the factional bonus remains

[proud edge]

reset your heroes, get wukong as high as possible, profit until 100

[pale kettle]

This level is 5-36

[proud edge]

Also read the pins. Dont make heros L i fyou cant make them L+

[hallow kettle]

ur using way too many tanks and not enuf support units. do u happen to have rosa or rowan or something? try to throw in nemora

[pale kettle]

Ok I’ll send a picture of all my characters

[proud edge]

Yes

[hallow kettle]

lucius and gorvo are both tanks. gorvo not really the best early on as well i think. did u read the pins in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

I can pick a free character so that as well count as my characters

[hallow kettle]

nemora+rosa+belinda+lucius+tasi i guess? you can run frontline belinda btw, and a bunch of times if ur using her as an early game carry she is good at the frontline because she can zap 3 enemies at once with her ult, and rosa should be able to sustain her somewhat.

[pale kettle]

Ok thanks

[hallow kettle]

btw, don't spread out your fodder too much. raising too many units ascensions of the same faction will dry u up in no time, and you want to focus down ascensions. people tend to use carries early on that are easy to get copies of such as the legendary+ heroes that have 3 skills only

[proud edge]

Save the free character until you can use it to ascend someone

[paper basin]

Estrilda sucks

[south grail]

Ayo

[harsh cedar]

so im making teams for challenger but im not all to sure what teams would work best

[summer cedar]

u shud take a look at arty's reddit guide for pvp.
at a quick glance I'd run eironn for one team and ainz for another. maybe izold, maybe gwyn, maybe gwyn with eironn for burst. more details in arty's guide

[harsh cedar]

@summer cedar would you happen to have a quick link to that maybe>

[summer cedar]

not on this computer. sorry. search up u/afkarty or maybe #classic-questions has it

[harsh cedar]

thats okay

[proud edge]

Finally got there with a talene, twins, rowan, ainz, ferael comp, thanks for the help!

[proud edge]

@vocal sluice Am I missing something? First battle on that comp you sent and twins dies after first ukt every time

[vocal sluice]

The low ascension twins isn’t helping

Try shifting your team around

[proud edge]

67 runs and finally survived ugh

[vocal sluice]

Hopefully you have energy on them for the next fight

[proud edge]

Got to 4th stage and thoran wiped whole team, gotta start over

[wintry agate]

Does anyone have any idea how I can beat this? My team seems to die before I can even get my shemira ult off

[keen flame]

I need help I can't level up my Brutus cause he's capped at legendary, and my mireal and Hogan are at max level, and I don't have anyone who can go past 160 who's above legendary

[honest blaze]

any tips on this?

[outer quiver]

team for the unhinged without warek?

[merry thunder]

Any idea for a comp with the hero’s I have left?

@vocal sluice I remember you where higher stage lol

[fallow ruin]

This stage is killing me. Help?

[fossil solar]

Help with this lvl please

[idle marlin]

Can someone give me some advice? I've been able to get to just niru and ainz being left but I can't beat him

[summer cedar]

who does tasi banish?

[idle marlin]

belinda

[summer cedar]

I might swap either her or lyca out for brutus then. maybe

[idle marlin]

I'll try that, thanks

[idle marlin]

I finally beat the stage thanks to you 😄

[wintry agate]

Asking for help again

[proper orchid]

Are you willing to use your mercenary? If so, Talene Brutus Rowan shemira belinda would probably work

[crisp ermine]

Hi I’m just trying to get through low levels what’s the best rag tag team I can use for now?

[wintry agate]

In that order?

[proper orchid]

Yes

[desert drift]

can some1 help

[wintry agate]

Everything just dies within like a second. I guess I'm just stuck afking for a little bit

[proper orchid]

I got nothing. Work on bringing up the base level to 160 and prioritize nemora after shemira. Sometimes it’s just up to leveling up early game

[wintry agate]

Yeah. I was just hoping I could somehow cheese and push through this

[frigid vine]

how do i beat this

[sour pond]

any ideas

[acoustic cape]

I've been stuck on 15-40 for a day or two now can anyone help. ^^;

[frigid vine]

use wilder hero’s cuz they’re stronger against gravborns

[jagged pike]

Place lucius frontline and who does silas boost

[frigid vine]

talene i believe

[jagged pike]

Try Gwyneth top backline id suggest

[frigid vine]

alright

[past oxide]

And ingore the Eirron comp I was testing

[jagged pike]

Whats your hero gallery

[jagged pike]

Frontline: arthur brutus
Backline: Gwyneth talene ukyo

[past oxide]

Ok

[frigid vine]

lol i still lost

[past oxide]

Thxs

[jagged pike]

Frontline: lucius grezhul
Backline: safiya rowan silas
Just another guess

[past oxide]

@jagged pike Whereever I put author Warek goes there Warek in Middle is annyoying

[jagged pike]

Do you have a fawkes?

[frigid vine]

welp i think ima just level them up more

[past oxide]

@jagged pike Ye

[jagged pike]

He might help with warek

If he could trap warek in his coffin it would be good

[past oxide]

Ye But He Banishes Grezhul.....

And warek can reach author before he can do a move

[jagged pike]

Hhhhmmmmm
How long does Arthur survive against warek
If he survives long enough you can probably place belinda

[past oxide]

Author survives All attacks for a good amount of time expect that throw

All IK is he tanks grezhuls damage until Gwen kills him

Like hes immune to stuns that means Gwens arrows don't do anything. Like shemira Doesnt do anything anymore lol

[twin dove]

How to place ainz so he gets his ult

[past oxide]

Place Him In Godcom0

[jagged pike]

I recomend getting a mercanary if you can or mess around with the formation

[twin dove]

Wdym

[proper orchid]

Try this order: shemira rowan ainz brutus ferael

[past oxide]

I used this formation. Turns out Gwen Loses Authors Haste Buff Every Time Theres A Warek Here So I placed safiya for perm haste for Gwen to kill everything

[jagged pike]

Safyia has permanent haste?

[past oxide]

Ya

[jagged pike]

Oh wow

[twin dove]

It worked ty

[proper orchid]

The field she places on the back. As long as they’re in it, perm haste

[sour pond]

what about my lineup

[sour pond]

^

[past oxide]

1Author 2Abeldo 3Ainz 4Rowland 5Ezio

If didnt work so me the battle results

@sour pond

[gleaming flame]

hey im new / early game kinda could someone help me with a good formation

[sour pond]

i used ainz - albedo - arthur - rowan -ferael in first fight

[past oxide]

Rip

[sour pond]

which chapter are you

[past oxide]

20

[sour pond]

XD

[sour pond]

you can use eironn - belinda - rowan - lyca and talene maybe

[past oxide]

Belinda. Early-Mid Game Yeah I don't think so

[feral hare]

Ima tad stuck atm

[cursive lodge]

put arden into RC and use him instead of talene ig

[tepid gull]

Can someone help me
I have 3 graveborn ascended,2 light bearer and 1 wilder
Can someone guide me how to proceed further and with whom

And I am doing stargazing for talene is that okay

[cursive lodge]

too much L and L+ heroes.. , anyways do M rowan asap to +30 him

[maiden marsh]

Twins take priority. Better to go to #classic-questions , only really need main box screenshot

[feral hare]

Arden died

[cursive lodge]

wrong position, put him behind lucius/wukong

[feral hare]

In the middle or bottom?

[maiden marsh]

Try swapping him and lucius

[feral hare]

Still died

[maiden marsh]

How many tries

[feral hare]

Atm two

[maiden marsh]

Two's not very many tries.

[feral hare]

It’s the bad guy and the rat with a crossbow who are problems

[jagged pike]

I suggest placing grezhul and eirron on crystal

Eironn does well against graveborns

[feral hare]

Lucius dies then Rowan dies then Arden dies then Belinda dies then wukong dies, has happened for 5 tries

[full pulsar]

need help here.. most of the time coffin doesnt work on me and i am having survivability issue due to brutus immortality

[feral hare]

In place of who

[jagged pike]

That wilder you have frontline and belinda

[maiden marsh]

Arden is more useful than grez very earlygame

[jagged pike]

Oh

[feral hare]

I’m just gonna wait, talene will be epic + soon and Belinda l+

And like, levels

[jagged pike]

Its ginna be awhile to get one talene

[fiery cypress]

So anyone hear able to give me a General lineup, I can make mods as jeeded depending on stage just looking for preferred setup for general play

Was thinking thane/tidus up front, with rosa/rowan/and another unit in back

Should I use thane or albedo?

they are linked, I could add in ainz oul

Switch links for hest setup is fine as well

[proper orchid]

You should really invest in a wilder. Eironn, tasi, lyca, nemora. You have so much fodder

Idk if you plan on redeeming dimensionals but nemora is in the labyrinth shop

Also, unlock thoran’s sig. it’s super good even at base value

[upper path]

Need help for highburn stronghold I dunno why I can't post pictures

[fiery cypress]

I just mythic nemora

[proper orchid]

Her sig is good too. Idk what chapter you’re on but you should at least unlock them all.

[pale monolith]

First of all link Ainz to Tidus and Albedo to Arden untill you get someone else. Then go for:
Thoran, Albedo - Front row;
Ainz, Rowan, Rosaline - Back row,

[fiery cypress]

Who is Arden@pale monolith cannot find him

[pale kettle]

@fiery cypress arden is the 6th hero u got

The old guy with the white bread!

[fiery cypress]

Oh ok, i may have used him to mytbic+ Nemora so i will just link albedo to nemora instead

Shooud repost, made some changes

Going to mythic+ rosa asap

Ascend i have 1 treasure so i just need 1 more rosa from something

Still the same lineup? @pale monolith

[pale monolith]

Just link Nemora to Albedo, Ainz to Tidus and the line-up is the same

[pale kettle]

Can I even beat this?

[fiery cypress]

God damn, this is super strong compared to my old team, and Ainz insta cast is beast gotta beef that artifact up asap

[pale monolith]

Horn on Ainz and Rowan, Brutus fromt row so Thane doesn't target Rowan so Rowan gets to ult then Ainz double ults

[pale kettle]

It worked! Thank you so much

Guyz which is better as a main tank thoran or brutus?

[boreal edge]

Can i replace someone from my formation? I started playing yesterday

[neon nova]

For now take wu to 100 and I’d put Arden in Crystal

[boreal edge]

What does in crystal mean ?

[pale monolith]

I use both, Thoran is great because pf his high HP, SI and Revival Ability and Brutus is good when you are agaisnt an enemy that finishes your tank in less than 5 seconds. I use both in my line-up

[pale monolith]

^^

[fickle dove]

@lofty cairn thanks bud. I ascended ira and niru cause I just didn't think about who's best to ascend in each faction.

[ripe skiff]

Help 15-40

[boreal edge]

@neon nova

[pale kettle]

Oh i see mind if u send your fomation here?

[lofty cairn]

ya thats cool they are fodder so its fine you ascended them, you have a solid comp with mirael talene rowan lucius and rosaline probably with maybe rowan / lucius frontline next to talene @fickle dove

oh crap you have a brutus

use that instead of lucius and make rowan rosa mirael backline @fickle dove

[neon nova]

Resonating Crystal is the thing under the ranhorn tab, I forgot when it opens but you add heroes to it and they become the level of your lowest level unit. This prevents you from having to level very hero individuals and once your top 5 breaks 240 all hero levels will be the same

[fickle dove]

OK, I'll give that one a try. Is brutus still alright if he's only 120?

[lofty cairn]

yeah hes invincible and once you hit crystal 141 youll cruise through a whole chapter with that comp

[boreal edge]

Ah alright i know what you mean. Why should i put him in the crystal if i dont use him in my formation?

[ripe skiff]

15-40 help plz

[lofty cairn]

make sure you get mirael to 160 asap tho @fickle dove

[boreal edge]

@neon nova

[lofty cairn]

@fickle dove i ran that exact comp straight to chapter 14

[fickle dove]

She already is 😂

[lofty cairn]

oh yeah its hard to see because of the announcement thing

[fickle dove]

I'll give that comp a blast for sure tho

[lofty cairn]

@fickle dove around ch 14 which is where i am you ideally want to have another carry ready to switch to from mirael as this is when she slowly becomes more irrelevant

[fickle dove]

I have belinda at L+ to be fair

So I could use the mirael to get her to mythic.

[pale kettle]

Im Starting to get in mid game and im not sure anymore what.i should do tbh
So what formation should i use

I feel like i am the only person who hasnt used rare heroes as carries

[lofty cairn]

yeah she's the backup plan because ideally youd want someone like daimon for your carry so you could get rowan to mythic instead especially considering you have the copies for that. But you have no daimon copies so belinda is aight @fickle dove. But play it out, you never know. You may get more copies of a new person. When you start to get REALLY stuck and your crystal is at LEAST 140. Ask if you should switch carries and who to.

[pale kettle]

Id do lucious belinda tasi rosa talene

[fickle dove]

Fair enough, I do keep seeing people recommend daimon but I haven't found a single one 😭

[pale kettle]

Can confirm Stitchy is a beast even at mythic he carries chapter 18

[lofty cairn]

@fickle dove you also already invested fodder into belinda to make her l+ which was a slight mistakd. so im actually not sure why you aren't using her instead of mirael. It probably wasn't a mistake tho considering you have no copies of daimon or shemira

just reset your mirael and use belinda at l+ it makes no difference now that youve already ascended her

[fickle dove]

I got told mirael was slightly better at 160 compared to belinda, that was my only reason

But I have to admit, I did notice things be a lot smoother using belinda compared to mirael.

[lofty cairn]

im not so sure if thats true. but maybe it is. belinda doesnt require positioning compared to mirael so much easier to deal with lmao

i dont see a particular reason that makes mirael better than belinda at 160

pretty sure belinda at same level and ascension will outperform mirael

[fickle dove]

OK fair enough, I can certainly give it a try. Am I right in saying it's better not ascending belinda to mythic cause I don't have any copies to go with her

[lofty cairn]

probably not because belinda really isnt all that great past midgame but rowan at m+ si 30 provides use even endgame

so you ideally want rowan to be your first mythic lightbearer

so yeah just hold off on belinda

[fickle dove]

Okie doke, I'll try and switch in belinda, see how that goes.

[formal yarrow]

Based on heroes I have now should I spend my faction scrolls on wilder for eironn or gb for daimon ?

[pale monolith]

Graveborn for Daimon

[sand parcel]

any help guys?

[lofty cairn]

@sand parcel thoran instead of wukong maybe also you seem only slightly leveled

[woven lagoon]

Hogan can be good pre-100 too with his stun, but yeah you'll beat it just by levelling up by the end of the day at that level

[distant merlin]

Im in a similar situation

[vocal kettle]

Hali
Any suggestions? Tasi banishing kills my team.

[vernal gyro]

I don’t have any idea how to beat this, can someone help? 28-40

[vocal kettle]

I made it.

[warm swan]

@hidden cobalt so you want all heroes deleted basically? What relics do you have? How many times can Bel ult?

[hidden cobalt]

I have those and it depends if rosa gets her ult off

its just it can come down to the arrow guy and he just shoots through rosa into belinda or issabella grave whelles me to death

[warm swan]

Won't Lucius get one-shot immediately?

[distant merlin]

Help

[hidden cobalt]

by who? he gets 1 ult off maybe if im lucky iv seen 2

[warm swan]

Try it with Bel frontline. Bel, Brutus, Rosa, Lucius, Respen. Blade, Grace, Call, Drape, Eye.
On 2nd thought, maybe call with Lucius would be better

[hidden cobalt]

call for brutus?

[warm swan]

Bel-blade Brutus-grace Rosa-eye Lucius-call Respen-eye. Best gear you got on Belinda

[hidden cobalt]

i cant pick raspen hes trial

[warm swan]

Oh, right mb. Disregard his relic then

[hidden cobalt]

good news or bad news @warm swan

[warm swan]

Did you kill Vurk at least

[hidden cobalt]

bad news it was rolled

Readjusted and rolled them tho

[warm swan]

Nice. Gz!

[hidden cobalt]

all ur big brain

now to beat the dismal decent 😄

[spark iris]

nice

[warm swan]

Ignore it. I read dismal and automatically thought of dismal lab.

[hidden cobalt]

is that a rare or legend relic or smth?

[spark iris]

it's a tougher variant of the lab

[hidden cobalt]

oh its the elite camps that really get me good

[pearl ridge]

Need assistance on 18-13.

[low bridge]

How to beat this stage? Any ideas?

[ripe skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/811880786991120444/Screenshot_2021-02-18-10-43-18-215_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.jpg
help 15-40

[sudden flower]

Hey who should i use in full team for now? As 5th member
Im running
Arden

wukong
Mirael
brutus
Rowan
Was thinking swapping out mirael

[knotty flare]

Need a good counter to this

[fossil solar]

Any assistance appreciated

[solar kettle]

Been stuck for 5 days any tips

[warm swan]

@solar kettle did you try mercing, maybe a Fera to counter-heal?

[solar kettle]

yea didnt work 4 star ferael

[warm swan]

With si and furn? Woah that's tough.

[solar kettle]

yea max furniture and 30 SI

[sour ledge]

@solar kettle have you tried like
tasi
--Rosa/Rowan
Rosa/Rowan
--Daimon
Lyca

[solar kettle]

ill try

[sour ledge]

Daimon should survive frontline pretty good with only 27lvl deficit

[solar kettle]

nope cause daimon gets banished and then team dies then daimon dies

[drowsy locust]

any suggestions?

[solar kettle]

use eiornn belinda lyca brutus and lucious put eiornn infront of the vedan

[solar kettle]

ive tried many times just gets destroyed

[warm swan]

You're basically fighting a war of attrition there with Ulmus, Tasi and Nem. Need heavy cc to stall for Daimon

[maiden marsh]

Ferael's antiheal is also pretty much the only way you're getting past the sustain

[warm swan]

A 4* didn't work according to him

[solar kettle]

it shoulve worked

[maiden marsh]

how many times did u try with the merc tho

[solar kettle]

a few times then it said i cant use it anymore

[maiden marsh]

it looks like you've used your merc for this week

[solar kettle]

ik

[maiden marsh]

then try with maxed ferael next week I guess is my best advice

[solar kettle]

ok

[surreal fox]

I wanna fit rowan in this pve team, who should I take out?

[surreal fox]

I'm thinking maybe taking out saurus for the 2-3 faction buff

[trim fjord]

Help plz

[red sinew]

any ideas i should try out? vurk and shem destroy my team https://gyazo.com/1a1166ae62877ef6e18c9c107b054f8f https://gyazo.com/f9223fdf85adc18ea5ffc05397338497

[sharp bluff]

What could be the best line up I can currently do for campaign I'm at like 7- something

[scenic lynx]

Help im stuck on 9-32

[rigid birch]

1. Talene
2. Brutus
3. Saveas
4. Pippa
5. Put tasi in the crystal and take out ogi

[karmic dune]

How..

[coral oyster]

I'm having a hard time in these levels is this a good team at this time?

[rigid birch]

1. Brutus
2. Talene
3. Lyca
4. Gwyneth mercenary
5. Rosaline/Rowan

[karmic dune]

what about the merc saurus?

[rigid birch]

1. Talene
2. Thoran
3. Silas
4. Rowan
5. Izold

[rigid birch]

there's way too many cc for saurus to work/gwyn has the factional advantage/the 5 skregs advance forward so they can all get hit at the same time

[karmic dune]

Alright thanks I'll wait till someone accepts my merc gwyneth

[rigid birch]

are you on the live or test server?
i can give you my gwyneth

[karmic dune]

live

[coral oyster]

@rigid birch should I reset my other heros to lvl up those?

[rigid birch]

use the resonating crystal

[coral oyster]

Ok tysm

[scenic lynx]

is there a way to pass or are you guys deliberately ignoring me?

[sour pond]

Its just that low level campagin isnt that difficult and you can get all the knowledge by yourself in the pinned guides -

And ppl arent slaves here - nobody has to help anyone

[rigid birch]

just put like mirael + 4 support and you're good all the way up until she hits 160

[raw quail]

Any recommendations?

[rigid birch]

take out shemira and put in rosaline

[raw quail]

I was thinking about it lol

[broken jay]

https://i.imgur.com/nw4WoFV.png
https://i.imgur.com/FjzXjEl.png
Any recommendations will be nice :)

[shy onyx]

Can someone help me?

[rigid birch]

take out cecilia for fawkes

[shy onyx]

Let me try it

[rigid birch]

can u send your full hero list?

[shy onyx]

Silvina and Hogan is one of the biggest problems

[ripe skiff]

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help 15-40
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[rigid birch]

who does fawkes coffin?

[shy onyx]

Vedan

[rigid birch]

k maybe try

1. Talene
2. Brutus
3. Lucius
4. Rosaline with 2nd best mage gear/ grace artifact
5. Safiya

[ripe skiff]

please help with 15-40 its so hard ;-;

[shy onyx]

Nop

[rigid birch]

try swapping safiya in the middle

[shy onyx]

Nop, dead

[rigid birch]

that grezhul is the problem
probs gonna have to wait for merc

[shy onyx]

Yep

[ripe skiff]

h e l p

[proven veldt]

Help ples

[broken jay]

any ideas? :)

[rigid birch]

1. Talene
2. Brutus
3. Daimon
4. Rowan
5. Cecilia

[proven veldt]

Cecilia is lvl 1

[rigid birch]

put her in the crystal

[ripe skiff]

makro could u help please

[silk drift]

I am about 15K above power cap

[maiden marsh]

You should be gucci with this lineup since you have better SI/furn than I did

[silk drift]

tried this formation for eternity and still keep losing I will try again maybe I will have better luck\

[maiden marsh]

Daimon just kinda needs to get stupid lucky and power through nemora's healing. Tends to be hard for him.

[silk drift]

yeah I feel like not having 3/3 for Daimon is also an issue

[maiden marsh]

it is a pretty large boost, missed that first glance

[silk drift]

Rip

my daimon never did this much damage except once

And still lost

[silk drift]

That’s a weird line up you got there. Are you using Saurus as a carry? You can use Daimon instead

Maybe something like
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Saurus
Lyca

[broken jay]

I am trying to find a good line up with Joker, any help?
My Joker is linked to Shemira
https://i.imgur.com/26ZA4JW.png

[lofty gust]

Saurus is my carry rn daimon is weak for nw until hes acsnded

[silk drift]

Daimon is perfectly fine at M as far I know. I used him in chapter 26 and 27 when he was still at M

[lofty gust]

My saurus is currently 2.5x stronger than other heroes of mine so i have to use him for nw

[silk drift]

Yeah you can use him but I am not sure if he can carry🤔

[lofty gust]

Everyone xcept saurus brutus and Lucius gets 1 shot :(

[lofty gust]

He's strong but gets CCed to death

[silk drift]

Honestly I am not sure. Might as well wait for someone who has built Saurus. I only used him as mercenary

[lofty gust]

My saurus definitely carries me solo 1 v 5 in most levels xcept where cc

[broken jay]

Any recommendations please?

[lofty gust]

Omg finally

[silk drift]

Noice congratz

[warm swan]

@lofty gust can you try that with Brutus, Lucius, Lyca, Rowan, Saurus? Fml, too late. Ignore me

[lofty gust]

Nvm nvm thanks Idk how i was stuck from 6days and retried over 200 times and now casually tried talene ... she's a beast healer and she sustained everyone.. until lucius went crazy ulting 😅

[pale kettle]

Hi guys!

Any ideas how to beat?

[strange dune]

Been stuck for a few days looking for any help that I can get

[proud edge]

Maybe frontline rowan instead of brutus and add skriath/nemora/tasi/lyca/rosa

[woeful matrix]

I also have kelthur and rigby down there. Can someone help me make a good team

[proud edge]

Read the pins.

Make mirael your highest level. She will carry you until 160 or so. Rowan, tasi, rosa, lucius can round it out for now.

[hidden condor]

Just wondering if there’s a better team I could be running

[strange dune]

Darn just tried all of them a few times everyone just instantly dies. I think my problem here is level not team then thanks

[quaint kiln]

What is the best daimon line-up?I am at the end of chapter 29(around 45).

[maiden marsh]

depends on the stage. a standard one would be tasi rowan daimon ferael lyca

[quaint kiln]

Thank you

[maiden marsh]

btw using the right lineup you could definitely beat 29 and 30 with those levels and investment, assuming your other heroes aren't all unbuilt or whatever. daimon also works best with dura's call

[maiden marsh]

yeah you could 100% be in 31 rn

good luck pushing, be sure to check this site for comps should you get stuck:

[quaint kiln]

Appreciate it

[maiden marsh]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[proud edge]

You got this nic. I'm only 302 and in 31, just takes rng

[broken jay]

I am trying to find a good line up with Joker, any help?
My Joker is linked to Shemira
https://i.imgur.com/26ZA4JW.png

[quaint kiln]

Now i am stuck here....

[proud edge]

Read the pins to see how to get your level cap higher. Bind joker to an L+ fodder, use rowan, a tank, and two other supports

[proud edge]

stage number? It's covered by the banner. Did you check https://afkhelper.nax.is/ ?

[maiden marsh]

looks like 54

[silk drift]

if you have Athalia or Nara try using them against Mehira. you don't want her to release her bats. I have less than half your combat rating and I am in ch 29

[quaint kiln]

Congrats

[silk drift]

uh thanks? I am just saying with your combat rating you can go higher than ch 29

[scenic lynx]

can someone help me im stuck

[wooden roost]

Stuck in misty valley any suggestions ?

[maiden marsh]

try lyca, rowan, tasi, nara, daimon. should work fine

[scenic lynx]

i can change my hero levels too i think i have enough diamonds

[proud edge]

I used Lyca, Rowan, Tasi, Nara, Daimon, in that order. Takes some rng but people have done it in the 270s with that comp

[maiden marsh]

275 is the level of the comp I copied so at 307 you should be a-ok. plus you have daimon +30

[proud edge]

reset antandra. Max level mirael.

[scenic lynx]

Uh can I keep her at 101?

[proud edge]

sure

[quaint kiln]

I am gonna wait for a merch nara then.Thanks for help guys

[maiden marsh]

E should do the trick

[proud edge]

I used an E+ nara, no need for anything crazy

and my daimon was only +10

[quaint kiln]

I am working on grezul for now so have to wait a bit for that

[maiden marsh]

she's right there lol. E+. should work fine

[proud edge]

No just use your e+ one

[quaint kiln]

She dies when gorvo jumps in

[silk drift]

Nara can work at E+ as long as she is fast enough to interrupt Mehira

[maiden marsh]

she just has to pull mehira to stop her initial move

[scenic lynx]

What do i do with my extra blue leveling stuff

[silk drift]

give her a good boots and that will work

[proud edge]

its all rng

[silk drift]

in a previous stage I gave Nara a T1 GB boot and it worked

[proud edge]

I'd probably put it in your tank at your level

[scenic lynx]

Why is assassin so gay

[proper tapir]

Hey guys I'm super hard stuck and I've tried many combinations with no luck

[quaint kiln]

Ok done

[silk drift]

nice congraz

[scenic lynx]

Help

[maiden marsh]

chuck in a weaker mage like rowan to take the silvina hit

[proper tapir]

maybe put talene infront of ogi and swap antandra with lucius

[silk drift]

I am not sure if Joker is a good carry. never tried him but your formation does lack a good carry.

[proper tapir]

joker is a decent carry actually

i just need to deal with athalia who hard stomps me

[silk drift]

maybe try pulling Raine using Eironn. and Rowan can survive against Athalia

[proper tapir]

ill try pulling raine but nobody survives athalia right now haha

[silk drift]

I am not sure how Eironn would fare at M+ but you can try putting him mid back instead of Rosa. and put Brutus instead of thoran

[maiden marsh]

might be possible to thoran cheese that stage I suppose

though I'm not an expert on that

[silk drift]

I never managed to cheese not even once

[proper tapir]

it gets close once every like 20-50 tries its just athalia and thoran but he dies in the end

[quaint kiln]

Ok chapter 30✌️.Thank you guys

[maiden marsh]

made 29-60 look easy

[quaint kiln]

Ahahah

I tried just thrice

[maiden marsh]

I've tried a little more than three times

[quaint kiln]

The line up you suggested is very good.Just some change in position sometimes and it works for nearly all stages

[maiden marsh]

yep

[quaint kiln]

Now i will go back to grinding for saurus and grezul
https://c.tenor.com/zIWIc1UkzMoAAAAM/evacomics-kelvin.gif

[proud edge]

Saurus I get, why grind for grezhul? Thoran is probably a better investment, hes super handy in 30 and 31

just out of curiosity

[quaint kiln]

For twisted realm

[proud edge]

Ahh makes sense

[acoustic cape]

I'm stuck on this one can anyone help? The lineup I got farthest with is on screen but I still can't kill more than 1 person with it. ^^;

[quaint kiln]

And i have maxed daimon.SC30 eironn and rowan.I do not think thoran would be needed

[slate flower]

any tips for this one?

[maiden marsh]

you'll need thoran badly once you're fighting three battles

[proud edge]

Yeah Thoran is more for campaign. Using him to cheese can be really handy when you dont have 2 super strong teams for some multi stages, or not enough gear

[broken jay]

sorry for late reply, you mean rowan in front line? also JOKER should be back line right?

[proud edge]

Rowan at your level is usually back middle. Joker could be either I think, but I dont have him so not sure how he works

[broken jay]

I use him back middle ye, i'll check, thank you :)

[solid fossil]

I'm tryna pass this part of the lambryinth, here's the roster I have

[proud edge]

Wukong and Talene should get you there

[quaint kiln]

What do you mean by three battles?

[maiden marsh]

multistages

very soon, you will need to win two separate battles to pass a stage. then three. all the way on to 5

[mild geyser]

@proud edge do you remember what you used on 31-6? Beat 31-4-1 with your lineup

[proud edge]

Gz! Erionn, Lyca, Tasi, Rowan, Daimon

[broken jay]

@proud edge https://i.imgur.com/5vbDbcC.png thoughts?

[quaint kiln]

[mild geyser]

shroud on eironn?

[proud edge]

nah I think eye

[proud edge]

Thats fine, just take the levels off gwyn and get joker the highest level

[mild geyser]

did your eironn pull or was he interrupted by shem?

[proud edge]

i want to say interupted but I honestly dont remember

[mild geyser]

thanks ill try it

[broken jay]

In a guide I read it said I should lvl one carry from each faction, shouldn't I keep gwyn for future use or is it not worth it?

[proud edge]

No. You should read the pins and follow the beginner guide. That advice is for much later

keep her, just not levels on her

[acoustic cape]

Can anyone help with 15-40 ^^; I posted a bit ago but got posted over.

[broken jay]

aight, got it, thanks :)

[proud edge]

I recommend Tasi

[acoustic cape]

Okay thank you!

[upbeat obsidian]

who would you guys +30 after saurus, eironn, and rowan?

[maiden marsh]

a question for #classic-questions that also requires context. post a picture of your roster there

[silver remnant]

Pls help

[lofty cairn]

what com0

[pale monolith]

Rosaline, Talene/Saveas/Brutus - Front;
Daimon, Rowan, Arden - Back row

[silver remnant]

What should I do?

[pale monolith]

Fawkes
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Talene

Does Fawkes survive enough?

[silver remnant]

I don't have him

[pale monolith]

Oof

Then instead of Fawkes Eironn

[pale monolith]

Nice

[empty ibex]

It seems like my heroes have reached their limit. Tried every single comp but not a single one of the enemy heroes die, mainly because Vedan 3 stabs pretty much everyone even Daimon for some reason + Nemora making him invincible with his ultimate. Apart from that the rest of heroes simply move along waiting for Vedan and Nemora to finish the job. Suggestions? What could I be missing?

Oh, and that's not my main comp, i just started trying everything and said "Screw it" and put Mirael up front lol

[red fable]

Have you tried rowan instead of rosa

[empty ibex]

Yeah, everyone lasts a bit longer except for that one hero facing Vedan which dies immediately

His potions do help, but Vedan + Nemora combo eat everything regardless

[pale kettle]

Is the sheep girls Bernie good for new players or no

Which are my best heroes and what should my lineup be?

[drowsy locust]

Do i have better team for twisted realm?
I saw that guide that uses Saurus + Grez / Rosa + Rowan + Twins, but i don't know if Grez will work better than Lorsan at E with no furniture or mythic gear. The same for Raine and Warek (have them at E+ and E)

[maiden marsh]

Number one priority is put saurus and grez in front and twins in back. Last two slots can probably be rosa/rowan. Without grez, you don't abuse the key mechanic of twin's link, and furthermore have no defense against arden's lightning.

[ripe warren]

Any recommendations on a lineup would be great. I’m only on chapter 8

[drowsy locust]

got it, thanks

[drowsy locust]

and maybe I will ask right now for future: what should I use in Ice Shemira comp (she is next) instead of Ezizh?

[maiden marsh]

Ezizh is irreplaceable, only a few heroes can prevent her from ulting. Ainz is another, inferior substitute. Don't expect a great ranking without an ezizh in ice shemira

[drowsy locust]

okey, i just opened TR an hour ago, so it is like a whole new layer of game to me)

[pale monolith]

Brutus, Rosaline - Front row;
Belinda, Rowan, Tasi - Back row;

[gleaming oracle]

Anything else to try?

[ripe warren]

Thank you

[proud edge]

lucius if you just need to stall a bit, tasi if you need to isolate out that arden

[fallen canopy]

Please help im noob

[proud edge]

Swap mirael and rowan.

[formal yarrow]

I got like 4 copies of izold rn should I invest in him or be patient and wait for daimon copies ?

[proud edge]

Seen this comp work when Eironn pulls, but I can't get him to pull myself. Any ideas?

[proud edge]

Izold is doable as your main carry, but daimon is usually easier. Of you want to go izold, google some guides specific to that

[formal yarrow]

So he's viable but just not as good as daimon ? Cause I really want to get a solid carry for my team

[proud edge]

Yes, he requires a lot of investment. Daimon is easier to work with. You're super early, read the pins. Run Wikong carry to 100 and Mirael to 160. By then you'll be able to get a daimon to take over

[scarlet hollow]

Any suggestions? Using gorvo to proc jokers AOM but I’m having issues due to Ferael lowering my energy

[proud edge]

I'd pull lorsan for rosa or lyca or arden

[scarlet hollow]

Yea I normally run Arden for his root but with ferael stunning with his haunt he wouldn’t proc

[proud edge]

he should root before ferael stuns

[fallen canopy]

Thanks

[scarlet hollow]

Silvina targets Arden and 1 shots him :/

[proud edge]

what if gorvo frontlines and talene goes back?

[scarlet hollow]

he isnt hitting enough people with his dive bomb to proc aom in front, hes only hitting isabella

[proud edge]

I may be out of my element here, I dont have joker yet and I'm not exactly sure how he works

[scarlet hollow]

when 3 enemies are CC'd he procs AOM and it can be used 3 times a game

[zealous pike]

261?!?

can somebody tell me why rowan is good?

or the name of the person who’s ultimate throws the gold

[proper orchid]

Because one of his abilities allows him to tank by using energy instead of health, His healing ability is also good because it scales to characters Max HP and not his own level

[zealous pike]

oh nice

[proper orchid]

On top of that his signature item is a 400 energy potion at max level

[patent kestrel]

Hi all. Just started yesterday.. I know I have couple meta heroes. But I want suggestions for current heroes I have .. which to use
wanna keep rolan diamon and tyler
Should I utilize shemira ? If so , who should I replace with her ?

[proper orchid]

Let me see your heroes

[patent kestrel]

.

[proud edge]

Read the pins. The first one tells you exactly what to do

[patent kestrel]

Thank you I will later when have more time 👀

[proper orchid]

But to answer your lineup question, frontline Antandra and talene with Rowan Belinda and daimon in back for now

That should get you a decent way up

[patent kestrel]

Actually nice pin @proud edge thank you . Thank you @proper orchid
Question left is : I have deimon ( he is kind of carry as I understand) , but shemira is also carry and seems to be suggested by everyone ... should i leave her out ? Antandra , I thought is low tier

[maiden marsh]

shemira is an outdated suggestion, don't wishlist her and don't build her

[proper orchid]

Shemira is kind of old news

[proud edge]

Shemira used to be the top recommendation, but she falls off hard. Daimon is now the best option since he can be used into the end game

[patent kestrel]

Nice !! Thank you guys
Last question, am I lvling wrong heroes ? Or it does not matter as long as I do not level more than 5 of them ?

[proper orchid]

Antandra got a rework that helps with CC immunity and She’s always been a really good early game Carry

In the early game it’s important to invest your levels into who you can get the highest ascension tier, which is why it’s good to start off with legendary plus characters to get you up to 160.

As long as you can put your good heroes in the resonating crystal for now that’s all that matters

[patent kestrel]

Gg . Faster and better than any amount of googling/redditing
You rock guys ! Have a great day

[proper orchid]

If you need a guild dm me. Level 9 and free to join

[maiden marsh]

As a redditor I can say the discord is where you come for advice. Reddit is just for looking at the guides the smart people post

[proper orchid]

Reddit is probably the worst place on the Internet you could go for advice about pretty much anything except illegal things. Whitesushi got the hookup tho

[scarlet hollow]

if anyone can give me any advice ill gladly take it, i tried swapping in arden but his root isnt stunning silvina bc her shield

[mint bay]

LF someone with Mezoth to take for Gold Valley Quest

[maiden marsh]

#mercenary

[inland socket]

Probably doing something wrong here lol any advice?

Unsurprisingly the Saveas spear of doom is wrecking mr

[proud edge]

Read the pins! Overlevel Wukong, he will carry you

[inland socket]

😮 thank you! And sorry 😣

Except wukong isn’t there...or is he just an accepted carry as well beyond saveas and co

[proper orchid]

He’s a sub level 100 Carry. You’ll ditch him soon

[inland socket]

Ahh k

[woven flare]

Hey there, I heard I can ask for team help here?

[summer cedar]

read the channel description. if that applies to you, ask away @woven flare

[woven flare]

Basically I'm looking for a team composition that'd help me clear stages 8 and onward, cause I'm scared of the prospect of fighting enemies higher than lv100 with heroes that can only reach lv100, here's my box

[summer cedar]

• only upgrade 5 heroes at a time
• read the pins in #classic-questions. has the best pre-160 lineups

[woven flare]

I see, the reason I leveled up more is because my crystal doesn't have that many slots rn

[summer cedar]

then u shud remove some non-essential heroes from crystal. as is, you're splitting too many resources when u can only send 5 heroes into battle anywa

[woven flare]

I see, ty for the help, i think I understand more now

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[ebon hazel]

Hardstuck here

[ebon hazel]

Lyca
Rowan
Gwen
Talene
Arden

[proud drum]

Am I building too many units for where i’m at? 26-21

[pale kettle]

Do you have enough Sustain without Totem dude to survive for chickens ult and then use sophia's?

[ebon hazel]

What did you even type.

[proud drum]

Can you survive long enough without numisu to use Skriath’s ult and then safiya’s

[pale kettle]

I dont know their names :(

[ebon hazel]

No such thing, not much you can do past A for most heros

[warm swan]

@proud drum not building too many, but maybe spreading your fodders on maulers. Finish one first perhaps.

[proud drum]

Yeah I did get skreg and khasos to mythic for no reason i’m working on building skriath rn i need like one more for ascended

[ebon hazel]

So Nemisu Skkiarath and Safiya back or??

[fossil solar]

Anyone have maulers floor 211? I can't beat it

[honest blaze]

any tips on tower 400?

[fossil solar]

400

[pale kettle]

Need help

[summer cedar]

I might try brutus thoran silas rowan izold, but I'm no izold expert.

[icy parcel]

What am I supposed to do? Who shall I merc for this?

[summer cedar]

When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool

[summer cedar]

u shud have a fawkes in ur crystal. also why is estrilda eating up 68 lvls worth of resources...

[pale kettle]

I have no Brutus

[summer cedar]

u should. u get a free one for passing a certain chapter and he works really well even at E.

[pale kettle]

I made bad decisions

[icy parcel]

Crystal slot strats, level someone below top 5, but higher than the rest, then if you really need a free slot you Reset one of the top 5 for 20 diamonds, and bang, free slot

[summer cedar]

or... just leave a crystal slot open. I can guarantee you can take someone off and it will have at most a very minor effect
this just sounds like a waste of diamonds to me. points for innovation, but unnecessary

[icy parcel]

Besides in the scope of resources one whole lvl 61 hero is like less than one level for the top 5

[summer cedar]

shem brutus rosa rowan lyca might be your best bet here.

I repeat: just leave a crystal slot open. I still do that

[runic geyser]

comp is dead within 15s or so

[icy parcel]

Hard to have a slot open, only got 14 available, of those 3 are for Celestials, that's 11, then 2 tanks used for campaign, plus Nara and Tasi for campaign as well, rosa and grez for TR, down to 5, and then we got days where I there's 2 Faction towers open

[summer cedar]

perhaps lyca brutus rosa rowan shem then

[runic geyser]

same result

[summer cedar]

u do not have to do faction towers every day. just post ur crystal in #classic-questions I can prolly tell u one or two worth removing

you're literally not trying if you replied that fast. comps take anywhere from 20-50 uses before you give up on them

[runic geyser]

lol 20-50

[icy parcel]

I need to do them every day until I get them all to 80 and get all the mythic gear rewards

[summer cedar]

which 3 celestials? outside of twins and talene I can't think of anyone else who needs a slot that early

[icy parcel]

Alna

[summer cedar]

ah. honestly would remove rigby. he's just objectively bad

[icy parcel]

No worries, Rigby and Raine are there only for today tower, since I got other E copies, so I can feed the level 1 copy the one in crystal and then free crystal slot as well

[summer cedar]

if im not mistaken u can make E to E+ and there is no cooldown timer for crystal. ask in #classic-questions jic

[icy parcel]

That's exactly what I meant

[boreal edge]

Is my formation okay? Or should i change someone ? And who should i focus on

[warm swan]

@boreal edge You can focus on Wukong till 100. Then Mira or Sav till 160. Pins are on #classic-questions

[white sky]

What to aim next?

[ebon hazel]

Been stuck about week and a half.

[dull vale]

Can someone please PM me and give me some help with what and who I should be focusing on.

[ebon hazel]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[snow raven]

Hello I have been following the beginner guide using Wukong+fodder heroes and just unlocked the resonating crystal. I was wondering which E/E+ heroes I should swap in? I was thinking maybe Talene and Rowan instead of Silvina and Arden

[past oxide]

Sounds #classic-questions

[warm swan]

@snow raven Keep Silvina and Arden in the rc. They're easier to lvl up and ascend. Rowan and Talene can go in the slots below the rc.

[ebon hazel]

Don't worry and keep yuk fodders in, only worry about swap outs when you're capped

[warm swan]

@ebon hazel tried using Daimon carry instead of Gwyn on that one?

[pale kettle]

any tips? been stuck for 4 days now

[snow raven]

Okay yeah I was planning to keep leveling up my fodder units, just wanted to clarify Talene and Rowan are good choices to power up with the crystal. Ty!

[ebon hazel]

Tried every comp I can think of

[white sky]

Cecilia, Respen or Kren?

[warm swan]

If that's the case then I won't suggest any line-up.

[ebon hazel]

Tried using Izold Daimon Gwen and Antandra for carries

[warm swan]

Indulge me just this once. Try with Estrilda, Rowan, Lyca, Tasi, Daimon. Chalice, chalice, eye, call, call

[ebon hazel]

Like this?

[maiden marsh]

yeah

[ebon hazel]

First time using Tasi in a while

[maiden marsh]

she's stupidly good. get used to it for the next few chapters

[ebon hazel]

Kinda forgot about her after chapter 21

[fallow ruin]

How in the bloody world do i beat this stage?

[pale kettle]

daimon is normally placed in backline

[boreal edge]

Can i lvl lucius as a tank instead of hogan and saurus instead of mirae ?

[warm swan]

Lvl Hogan and Mira. Put Lucius and Saurus below the rc if you insist on using them. You'll get plenty of Hogans and Miraels later so they'd be easier to ascend beyond the early lvl cap.

[boreal edge]

Yeah i think i hit a wall rn its not easy to get diamonds anymore

Chapter 6

[warm swan]

If you've already used the active codes for additional pulls, then there's not much to do aside from afking.

[boreal edge]

Active codes?

[ebon hazel]

My entire right half is getting shredded by Brutus

[warm swan]

@ebon hazel Fk. They don't need to live. Just need to stall for Daimon. Oh well, I tried. Sorry.

@boreal edge redeemable codes. The ones that gives you freebies

[ebon hazel]

L brutus is a sad sight

[ripe warren]

yea i know

i need recommendations

[warm swan]

Put more lvls in Bel than Brutus so Rosa will follow her instead. Try Bel on pos 1, Brutus in pos 2, Rowan pos 4.

[ripe warren]

wow i didnt even know she followed the higher lvl thx

also what are the positions, like which position is which

[warm swan]

She follows the one with the highest rating (I forgot if it was atk or combat). Anyway, Rosa will refresh Bel's ult allowing Bel to ult immediately. Position 1 is top fwd, position 2 is below that. Position 3 is top back, and so on and so forth.

[ripe warren]

okay

[pale kettle]

any tips? been stuck here for 4 days and hoping to clear tonight for 95% chance mythic

i've tried using talene instead of the new wilder but that also doesn't work
arden gets his root off and dies so he's a shoe-in IMO
brutus stalls for a bit

[lone grail]

Help

[summer cedar]

I'd definitely put arden behind belinda. maybe try belinda brutus arden rowan lyca?

[pale kettle]

roger roger
is lyca necessary if arden gets 1 root off without her?

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=26&stage=48 my clear is on this site. you're much higher lvl so it shouldn't be a problem. there are others too

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar any idea for this stage on my mini? Lol don’t ask me how my main is chapter 33 but I can’t figure this out

[summer cedar]

I mean the lyca also boosts belinda's haste too which is always nice

[summer cedar]

have u tried swapping rowan and eironn? since skreg can't be pulled

[pale kettle]

swapping belinda with brutus has gotten me a lot closer to only 2 enemies alive (my best was 4 before lmao)

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar I have tried it but it results on my bottom side being prettt much insta wiped

Ok front lining tasi did the job lol

[summer cedar]

yeah I had a feeling. golus takes way too long to die was my assumption. actually, consider swapping lyca and arden. I don't think belinda takes too much damage where she is and the def break might help.

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar whenever I tell newer players to use Arden, I always imagine. How fucking OP would he be at Ascended

[summer cedar]

have you faced him in campaign? fuck that guy lol

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar tell me about it. Honestly the L+ heros give us the most pain in campaign

Ok Tasi is her own annoying ass tier but apart from her

What I hate the most about my mini is that I don’t have all the hero’s at A that I have. I’m like, ooo Fera+Nara is a done deal here. Oh wait, they are only E+ 😂

[empty ibex]

This... Why.

I reset Lucius to level back up Kong, since Lucius was just food at this point. Battle starts, Vedan three shots whoever is in front of him, mages down Daimon immediately, Kong rarely gets his ult and when he does it just gets obliterated right away, and when someone is exactly at one hp they dodge and then get healed back to full by Nemora. Vedan of course survived full hp every single time, and none of the enemy heroes died.

At this point, what is my best way out of this stage? Is there something I haven't noticed yet (apart from not having any L+s)?

[icy parcel]

freaking Angelo usually deals more damage to my team than the others

[merry thunder]

@empty ibex do fawkes and tasi imobilize the same person

[icy parcel]

you usually either need to kill Vedan before he ults, or delay it with stuns, I think hogan is good enough to keep him in check at that level

[merry thunder]

Imagine us using a Niru that’s ascended. I could totally imagine a comp with him and 4 trashy hypogs

Give him all the hypog buffs, and they die super fast to buff him up

[icy parcel]

budget Lucretia basically, the dream

[merry thunder]

@icy parcel yep, but could get too 5star in a blink of an eye

[empty ibex]

Yes, they both stop Nemora. Tried switching them up with Rowan and Talene and it ended up the exact same way

[merry thunder]

@empty ibex have you tried rosa? Swap out tasi with her

[icy parcel]

the perfect Dimensional Links at 5 star

[velvet belfry]

use rosaline instead of fawkes and rowan instead of tasi, hogan or ogi instead of daimon, put hogan/ogi in front of vedan

make sure your rosaline follows mirael and get mirael to 140

so it would look something like

rowan

hogan/ogi
mirael
wu kong
rosaline

[empty ibex]

Really? Man, i find that hard to believe, Lucius himself didn't stand a chance. I could try tho, but it will take some time to ascend Hogan to L

[velvet belfry]

lucius isnt really a CC champ

[empty ibex]

Tried her out aswell, went down with Daimon at the end

[merry thunder]

@empty ibex wdym by the end? Some stages can take 50+ tries with the same como

[icy parcel]

I didnt say Hogan would kill him, he just buys enough time by sending into the air and then smashing him into the ground

[empty ibex]

At the end of the attempt, when everyone is about to die

[merry thunder]

Then keep trying that combo

If it’s a close loss it should eventually roll in your favor

[empty ibex]

No no, i meant when my team is about to die. Enemy comp remains almost intact

[empty ibex]

Hmm I could give it a shot, struggling with hero dust right now but I guess it has to be done

[warm swan]

@empty ibex try frontlining Mira. Something like Wukong, Mira, Tasi/Fawkes, Rowan, Rosa.

[empty ibex]

Tried it out and got destroyed by critical hits. Not even close without enemy critical hits aswell

[warm swan]

There's only one thing left to do then...

[velvet belfry]

Ogi is the answer, he is one of the best vedan counters earlygame

[sweet nexus]

I’ve had some luck tying Vedan up with Arden so far. Long enough for Mirael to ult and usually finish him off unless I’m underpowered for the stage.

[viral pebble]

ive got 2 spots in the resonating crystal, who would be good?

im thinking thoran and rosaline, rosaline bcuz i have mirael as a carry

[velvet belfry]

lyca and ferael @viral pebble

[empty ibex]

I'm almost there, i just gotta open up a spot for my E+ Ogi on my reso crystal and hope for the best

[viral pebble]

what would the lineup look like?

[velvet belfry]

lyca and fera work in almost any comp,

mirael arden ferael

lyca hogan frontline

is an example. but you can also work in rowan

[viral pebble]

okay thanks

[pale kettle]

What team should I work on

Need help with this stage on alt warek throws rowan to insta death if i use as frontline

[empty ibex]

Something like this? @velvet belfry

Something like this happens: Ogi slams the ground, stuns everyone behind Vedan, Vedan dodges and then proceeds to three shot Ogi and continue with his ultimate

The guy behind Vedan is a Mauler btw, so Ogi is pretty much useless since Vedan critical strikes him to the ground along with that Ranger behind him

[pale kettle]

Someone halp me ^

[empty ibex]

Welp, guess I gotta keep trying until I win. No need to rush it, thanks for the advice

[signal lintel]

Any suggestions on this one?

[summer cedar]

#lineup-help message read my convo with pippi for details. this stage sucks

[signal lintel]

Thanks, I’ll check it out

[distant merlin]

A

Help

[timid thunder]

\

[pale monolith]

You got Brutus?

[tepid holly]

Has anyone got screenshots of 28-46? Preferably eironn comp/Dim comp. edit: accidentally used farel merc when I copied my friend’s comp. it auto selected his over mine.

[pale monolith]

Only screenshot I can find of the stage

[tepid holly]

Yiikes, lv 292 and 4*’s 😫

[pale monolith]

Worth trying, you have all the heros

[worthy steeple]

i really need arthur. Is he usable in Daimon comp?

[tepid holly]

Imo, at your chapter I'd run daimon into eironn comp. Arthur is exceptionally strong with albedo & ainz if you've got them. If not, I'd reccomend eironn, lyca, tasi, rowan, daimon

[worthy steeple]

I dont have eironn

and I'm using Daimon as My carry even though I have Ains

[viral pebble]

ive got 1 spot in the resonating crystal, i need a good tanky tank but if theres someone more needed ill take that, currently in ch 9-4 any ideas?

hogan dies way too quick

[tepid holly]

that's alright, I use daimon and still continue to all the way up to 28. He doesn't have a fall off point like ainz at around 25-27 if ainz doesn't fac bonus from dimentional gear (you can opt to slowly buy them off guild shop over time).

What's your roster? @worthy steeple

[worthy steeple]

Ones sec. Qnd I have no dimensional gear for ains yet

I mainly use Daimon, Tasi, Rowan, Brutus, Talene

[drowsy gazelle]

You can try replacing talene with ferael

[worthy steeple]

Rowan gets one-shot when he frontlines

[drowsy gazelle]

And you finally have M rowan, after youve been scream of not getting him for so long . Gratz. He needs faction boots and weapon

[worthy steeple]

I had to force the copies out of the game XD

He has weapon and hat... i cant seem to get intelect boots worth shit

[drowsy gazelle]

An example of how rowan performs with T2 boots and weapon only. Lvl272, 29-60. Tanking athalia head-on

[vivid hull]

Who would be better Queen or joker

[drowsy gazelle]

Joker

[vivid hull]

Thank you

[worthy steeple]

I have weapon, no boots... I can never get boots for intellect heroes

[tepid gull]

Any lineup suggestions or do ineed to upgrade them

[vocal kettle]

Hali-gali
Any suggestions? Atalia kills me. Brutus is there for Atalia first attack.

[pale kettle]

Looking for help with 3 teams thanks

[pine marlin]

I am really stuck on these grave born teams, there is this one and then another in kings tower that I need to get past

[tepid gull]

@vocal kettle t4y using antarda and safiya
Also put a healer if you have a good one I recommend silas

[cobalt ridge]

Can someone help me with 3 good pvp teams?

For what its worth, Links:
Arthur - shemira
Nakoruru - brutus
Ezio - grezhul
Ainz - skreg
Albedo - numisu

But i can swap of course

[low bridge]

Any ideas for this stage?

Btw I used full GB for the bonus not because its best

[pale monolith]

Nara

Brurus
Rowan
Thoran
Daimon

[low bridge]

Nice I did it, im in CH11 now

[spiral quail]

I cant beat this ive tried so many different variations (edit i just did no need for help)

[vivid hull]

How do I ascend this dude 💀

[pale monolith]

You can link JOKER at the Temple of Ascension with amother hero. JOKER will have the same ascension level and level as the hero you linked him with. You can't use JOKER and the hero you linked in the same formation. If you want to raise JOKER's ascension level you will have to acend the linked hero.

[vivid hull]

Yeah got it thanks man I was messing around with it and he’s now legendary 💀

@pale monolith can I bother you some more

I dead ass can’t beat this lmao

[rich storm]

ideas? saveas tend to 1-2 shots kill someone, khasos is a dps machine and neither can be locked down by eironn if he wants a 3 pull. Safiya is there to pull 3 into her barrier and slow them, seemed to help

[rich storm]

you have too few cc, try bringing respen in, hes strong against 3 GB there and he does some cc, i'd prob take out gwen, shes not great early as far as i know and shes weak against GB. For my experience also talene want someone else to help healing, so maybe swap joker and wukong, take out joker and place lucius, hes top so only 1 GB

[pale monolith]

Shemira

Brutus
Rowan
Rosaline
Daimon

[hybrid torrent]

Damn thanks that worked

[pale monolith]

No problemo

[shy pagoda]

Any suggestions?

[nocturne bane]

Switch mezoth with talene, remove mezoth and place arden instead

[shy pagoda]

Ok I'll give it a shot, ty

[torpid turret]

Stuck here, need idea

[shy pagoda]

Everything is just dying like straight away. Battle lasts maybe 15 seconds

[torpid turret]

Rose doing anything or just dying too?

[shy pagoda]

She's second last to die but never gets to use her ultimate

Think I need her are mirael to survive long enough to get mirael 2 ultimate uses, that's what normally helps me win

[torpid turret]

Try swap rose with tasi or rowan

[past urchin]

Drop Mezoth entirely mate.
He is useless at E ascension.
That to start with.

[shy pagoda]

Same result :/

[torpid turret]

Maximum it isn't ur time to pass it

[shy pagoda]

Yeah I've dropped dropped mezoth for arden and swapped him with talene like lxviss suggested

Think the problem is my front line are dying pretty much instantly so doesn't give my support or carry a chance to do anything

[torpid turret]

Somewhy can't send my all heroes photo, confused

[past urchin]

Do you have Brutus? Like any Brutus at all?

[shy pagoda]

Unfortunately not

[torpid turret]

Then try wait some, sometimes u got to wait, or just try try and try

Sometimes u need 200 tries to pass

[shy pagoda]

I've been waiting for ages it seems like 😂 taking forever to get more fodder

[torpid turret]

@past urchin any chance u can try give me idea? Tried few formats, went eeee, athalia yeeted the damage even tho brutus was alive

All heroes photo bugged, will try get another 1

Here, finally

[past urchin]

Wukong
Talene
Rowan
Rosa
Mirael

Swap Mirael with Rosa if she can survive up front (she should as she is overleveled)
Dont worry about centering Mirael in this stage @shy pagoda
You can wipe them out in 2 sessions.
Daimon instead of Wukong works too...though without SI your Daimon is not much different from a tanky mage.

Arden instead of Wukong would also be nice.
Though he isnt 141 yet.
You will need some retries for him to root the right targets.

[shy pagoda]

Managed to get 2 mirael ultimates, didn't kill them all but definitely closer. Probably just need to run it some more and hope for better rng. Thanks

I have enough resources to get arden up to 160 if that'd help? Only got him l+ yesterday and haven't really used him so haven't levelled

[past urchin]

141 is enough.
He will root 3 people rather than just 2 and thats massive.
From 141 to 160 he will just get a little sturdier.Not that impactful.

[fallow ruin]

Very stuck, help?

[shy pagoda]

Ok sweet

[torpid turret]

Done it, btw just try, I did like 100 tries since yesterday just playing with the format

[shy pagoda]

Got it, thanks @past urchin

[torpid turret]

Swap rose with the tank, talen forward, shemira I would say back

[past urchin]

Grats :)
Yup...thats what the campaign is.
People claim.its a challenge.
Personally I dont find retrying a stage 300 times challenging.
Just tedious.
Oh well...it is what it is :)

Grats you too @shy pagoda :)

[torpid turret]

mean u gotta use heroes if u want pass it

[past urchin]

Yes though the solution is obvious most of the time.
And the 'challenge' kinda limited to a million things happening for you and NOT happening for them.

[eternal lantern]

Any advice?

[fickle dove]

I feel like such a moron for having to use this channel so much recently but even after getting my units past 120 crystal, I'm still struggling with this specific stage

[past urchin]

Does Rosa survive Silvina's jump or instantly dead?
@fickle dove

[pale monolith]

Belinda

Rosaline
Rowan
Brutus
Any mage so Silviana doesn't targrt Rosaline,also if you unlocked Dura's Horn put it on Belinda

[lofty depot]

How do I counter this lineup? Doesn't work with Wilder lineup and this lineup doesn't work either because Ezizh charms Gwyneth

[amber halo]

Can it win? Albedo +29 ainz +30 rowan +30 arthur +20 lyca +7

[amber halo]

Change rowan and Nara for lyca and rosaline

[lofty depot]

@amber halo Doesn't work

[amber halo]

Rosa 3 Gwyn 4 lyca 5 not working??

[lofty depot]

What do you mean

[amber halo]

Positioning

[amber halo]

Nope change position of Gwyn + rosa

[lofty depot]

No it doesn't work because Ainz Insta-ult and kills my entire team within 10 seconds

[amber halo]

If u want to counter ainz use ezizh or ferael

Or athalia ofc

[lofty depot]

Doesn't work either I've tried everything

[warm swan]

@lofty depot

But if I were you, I'd just avoid that enemy.

[lofty depot]

I don't have Albedo, that guy is the only one above me in arena that's why I want to beat him

[warm swan]

Your best bet, like what the picture said, is a heavy burst. So Eironn, Lorsan, Zol, Lyca, Zaph. But even then, it's not guaranteed.

[azure kiln]

Hi guys. Newbie here. Was just wondering which ones should I focus on leveling that would be useful from now to endgame PVE?

[warm swan]

It's still quite far from where you are now to the end game. Between 1-100, Wukong is the recommended carry. 100-160 would be Saveas or Mirael. I suggest you read the guide on #classic-questions

[pale monolith]

Saveas is defenetly not a solid pick for end-game since you can't get him past lvl 160. I suggest that your carry shpuld be Belinda for the moment

[azure kiln]

Alright. Thank you both! Appreciate it. I'll read the guide as well. Cheers.

[pale kettle]

Help please

[pale monolith]

[amber halo]

Am I the only one hating gb teams?

[proven magnet]

Halp please

[warm swan]

Maybe Brutus instead of Daimon? Maybe he'd last a tiny bit more.

[proven magnet]

I’ll give it a go thanks

[worn pilot]

Any suggestions?

[vital kernel]

What do you need nara for in this comp? I would imagine someone like lyca could help more

[worn pilot]

Nemora to stop her from charming

[proven magnet]

Brutus just drops like ☔️

[amber halo]

Guys fkn ferael

[worn pilot]

@vital kernel unless you got better ways to deal with Nemora

[warm swan]

Well rip. You don't have anybody that can take Estrilda's charge. I'd hazard with Rosa at position 1 but that just leaves more opening.

[proven magnet]

Rip and afk

[warm swan]

You desperately need a Hogan at L+, lol. Speaking of which, why Rosa to L+?

[proven magnet]

I only found out the beginner’s guide into getting all fodders to L+ just 1/3 through the game when I just started

Thats why im waiting to get hogan to L+ right now but burnt out of fodders rip fr

At least for rosa, i can invest in her as she’s decent for later i guess but i’ll leave her at L+ for now. When do i start transferring all L+ fodder mains to better chars?? @warm swan

[warm swan]

When you're capped at 160. Assess which heroes you got the most copies of to get your first Ascended

[proven magnet]

When im capped at 160 on ALL fodder chars?

[worn pilot]

No, top 5 on crystal, typically your fodders

[warm swan]

If you got enough copies to ascend before that, sure. But most prolly, you'd need more copies for confirming, so ultimately yes, 160 on your L+ fodders.

[proven magnet]

Sorry I meant when im capped at 160 on my main 5

Thanks guys

[fallow ruin]

Need some real help. Been trying this for hours straight, everything ive tried fails

[worn pilot]

Show rest of hero box pls

[amber halo]

Lyca instead of joker will improve it for sure

[worn pilot]

Angelo can be annoying so a Nara could help with dealing with him

[amber halo]

Joker won't do anything in that comp

And ferael is the problem there not angelo

[worn pilot]

My Joker got me unstuck at 15-40 and took me all the way to Ch21 in 2 weeks
But you do need right comp

[amber halo]

Stun comp or he won't all out attack

Put him in a Gwyneth comp and he will shine

[worn pilot]

A good comp for Joker to consider:
Arthur
Gwnyeth
Estrilda
Joker
(I can't remember this last one)

[amber halo]

Rosaline or rowan

[worn pilot]

And not in that order. Estrilda and Arthur front line

I'm currently working on mine, but Gwyn and Rowan needs fodders
Rowan can go +30 as soon as he's Mythic, but damn dimensionals won't let me get Arthur

[amber halo]

Money can help u

But it doesn't matter against gb teams

[fallow ruin]

Any suggestions of a line up that might work?

[worn pilot]

Did you try Lyca instead of Joker like Zakarr suggested?

[fallow ruin]

Yeah, still get wiped

[amber halo]

Nemora lyca tasi remove shemira tallene and joker ez win. Or just remove joker and put lyca

Nemora must charm ferael. And u know rng is big part of the game

If you want to hard push u retry a lot and analyze the fights

[fallow ruin]

Yeah im aware, been trying for hours

[worn pilot]

This comp worked surprisingly well at low Ascension, wtf

[amber halo]

Try what i suggested and remove daimon and put shemira in

[worn pilot]

But Nemora problem, she heal and make it bad
If I kill nemora, ez win. Any suggestions?

[amber halo]

Daimon is trash pre mythic. Hes only good when he get si

[charred ermine]

if you have enough gears, try a

Tasi
Rowan
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca

[amber halo]

@worn pilot use Eironn and don't use rowan at that ascension

[worn pilot]

My Eironn lacks gear. He only has 1 Faction T1 gear. He's not so great when he doesn't have dodge gear

Plus, his SI is only +10 atm.

[amber halo]

I see i would try smth like tasi lyca Eironn rowan rosaline or smth like that

[worn pilot]

Rowan is what let my Joker get his All Out attack in, atleast that's what I noticed. His ult triggered All Out

[amber halo]

Or talene instead of rowan since she's better at e+ than rowan

[worn pilot]

Talene is already in

[amber halo]

I meant in the other comp i told u to try

[worn pilot]

K

[amber halo]

Right now u are using burst comp into invade comp. That's it's weakness

[worn pilot]

My Joker is my hardest hitter by far

Joker vs Eironn with gear

[amber halo]

Eironn with drape?!

[worn pilot]

It's wrong artifact, I know. I wasn't using Eironn

I put Call on.
Tried, comp dies relatively quickly

[amber halo]

Eye is better

[worn pilot]

Like I said, Eironn lacks dodge so he dies rapidly

[amber halo]

U need rng for dodge comp tho

[worn pilot]

Yeah, but it's much better with full T1

[amber halo]

Ofc but just use what you currently have. U need a stall fight not a burst with Gwyn joker against that invade comp

[worn pilot]

Eironn made it but he can't do much by himself

[amber halo]

I retry over 100 times usually so try more instead of 1 fights and say it's not working xD

[worn pilot]

It usually.takes me 2-5 retries for each stage

This comp is 1/3 of enemy.power vs my Joker comp at more than 1/2

[fickle dove]

Hey sorry forgot to check this. Silviana one shots whichever mage I put in lol. I don't really have a mage worth using that's weaker than rosaline unless I put in a nemora with no items.

[amber halo]

2-5 haha then wait later it takes so many. With 5 u can't even judge if it's good or not unless u die in 8 seconds

Yeah it might not work I'm just saying gwyneth joker comp is bad against that comp

[worn pilot]

I know, I don't usually use Gwyn. Trying to ascend her first

This is the usual that got me.this far

But it's not so useful no thanks to Warek, so I have to put sacrificial Talene on him

[amber halo]

Or just some interrupt xD

[fallen yoke]

Hi guys! I’m new and need help on what to focus on 🙂 I have read guides online etc but am still very lost

[polar lake]

Last boss stage of the chapter. Enemy shemira hits like a truck.

[jagged pike]

Rowan
Izold(probably)
Lyca(probably)
Talene
Daimon
Sauras
Eironn
Hendrik and brutus are ok
Also never use heroes that can go ascended as fodder

[amber halo]

Fawkes/tasi is good against shemira teams

[fallen yoke]

Team of 5? For pve what do u suggest

[amber halo]

Izold is trash if not invested in furniture 9/9

[jagged pike]

Frontline: brutus talene
Backline: daimon rowan sauras

Place hendrik and lyca on there

Start buiding wu kong though hes a carry

[fallen yoke]

I thought 5people max?

[jagged pike]

I meant crystal

[fallen yoke]

Was told to focus on units obtainable by summon, else can’t ascend

Difficult to ascend* I’ll focus on wukong then

[amber halo]

Focus is good at lv 100 until u get some ascension going and mirael is strong early game

Wukong*

[jagged pike]

I got a legendary wu kong on my 2nd account in chapter 11

[fallen yoke]

What do you consider as mid game?

[amber halo]

Midgame is chapter 25+

Imo

[fallen yoke]

I’m at chapter 4 now. How did you manage to get so many copies of wukong to make it legend. I just started hours ago

[maiden marsh]

Incorrect

[vital kernel]

Take what zakarr says with a grain of salt y'all and be sure to ask for other opinions

[jagged pike]

I shared when i got a new hero (you dont have to share) and labyrinth

[amber halo]

Izold needs investment lol

And he's telling a guy in chapter 4 to use izold and hendrick xD

[exotic crater]

i'm sure this is pretty silly, but would like to know if i'm able to push through (been stuck for 3 days)

[solar kettle]

use lyca

[jagged pike]

Try brutus

[amber halo]

Your comment is useless if you don't elaborate just fyi

[exotic crater]

lyca middle back, or frontline? i'm early game so she's still squishy and doesnt have enough dodge right?

[maiden marsh]

He needs 3/9, and can work before that. Not useless by any means.

[exotic crater]

who do i replace, and which position?

[amber halo]

I said he needs investment and he does compared to other carries no?

[jagged pike]

Lyca can be used as haste but i dont recommend

[jagged pike]

Try replacing hogan

[amber halo]

Ok 3/9 but a guy in chapter 4 doesn't have 3/9 tho

[jagged pike]

Huh

[maiden marsh]

Doesn't change the fact izold is still very good before 9/9

[solar kettle]

yes but lyca can still help alot vs vedan to get a jump on him and kill him fast doesnt really matter where preferably backline

[exotic crater]

i dont have enough dmg to oneshot him; i can only get him to about half and he ults and regenerates back to full

[solar kettle]

also do what the other guy said and use brutus to tank vedan or niru

[warm swan]

I think Lyca frontline is okay given her ascension and lvl + bonus against gb. Would need to proll slot in an Arden for his root for Vedan tho

[jagged pike]

I just got lightbearer mercenaries and they arent working that well any tips

[exotic crater]

thanks everyone for the help. finally got through with lyca and arden (getting lucky root at right timing)

[drowsy gazelle]

I used the exact same comp in the past but my replay is gone so here's my friend's.

Dont question the lvl1 hero, just put them in

[maiden marsh]

The 7 damage from Fawkes is essential, very thin margins.

[drowsy gazelle]

[solar kettle]

then im just sitting here stuck at 20-37 😦

[jagged pike]

All my team gets killed from the naras

[exotic crater]

HI, my next roadblock is now enemy Vedan + Silvinas + Kaz
i have arden for Vedan counter, but he gets jumped on by Silv and thus cannot root vedan.

Do i just put in a weaker mage to distract silv?

[drowsy gazelle]

I dont rely understand what happened. But basically you need those 3 backline to die and group all enemy together and let belinda ult to kill all of them. So rng might be a factor

[drowsy gazelle]

Thats an option yeah

[maiden marsh]

Rowan's a good option there since he can ignore the hit and contribute after his death.

[drowsy gazelle]

I cant rely see ur pic, can u resend? Or maybe let @maiden marsh help ya since my internet is bonkers

[jagged pike]

Belinda cant get her ult off even if she does she kills 1 person

[solar kettle]

been hardstuck 6 days

[drowsy gazelle]

Take out rosa, put tasi. If tasi is dying then change daimon and tasi's position

[solar kettle]

ok

[drowsy gazelle]

Hmm weird, try putting call on both rowan and belinda

[jagged pike]

I did do you need my formation