lineup-help

[sinful comet]

May be wait until ur shemira is lvl 161, she gets really strong after .

May be try getting Arden with ur Nara ?

[manic sandal]

I've tried that too, no success it's a full sweep.

[full merlin]

@sinful comet I have her level 165 now, what lineup should i use?

[sinful comet]

How about talene in front followed by Lucius, lyca in mid and shemira and joker at the corner . If ur Lucius can survive and managed to pull@ulti off, u might win

[sinful comet]

May be trying putting her in front to see if she can tank .

[sinful comet]

If u r still struggling, try tinkering around with dura arti and upgrade their weapon to 3 stars at least .

[full merlin]

she cant

[sinful comet]

Do u have talene ?

[full merlin]

yes

but the fight is getting close

[sinful comet]

Use talene in front followed by Lucius , shemira with call artifact( if u have one ). At the back , then saevas and Rosalind

Put Rosalind in front next to talene, rowan in mid

Try both way

[full merlin]

Talene just doesnt work at all on elite+

[sinful comet]

@full merlin

[sinful comet]

Umm I still use E talene till chap 22 then got another copy of E later on

[wheat relic]

how to beat this

[full merlin]

oh wait, now its getting close all the time

[proper orchid]

My only advice is try ferael stun

[full merlin]

i did it! ty a lot

[sinful comet]

Np 🙂

[wheat relic]

I've tried ferael :'(

@proper orchid thank you

[proper orchid]

It was worth a shot. Good luck

[wheat relic]

thanks I'll keep trying some things.

[empty jasper]

Hurr durr grezhul and estrilda go brr brr

[undone vessel]

In campaign is E talene generally better than E+ Hogan? I was getting crushed in the previous level or two until I found out talene was a tank rather than a dps like I expected from her design, and I actually broke through even though her ascension and items are worse than Hogan's. Lucky swap in a niche fight where she's better or just the better choice? Team comp for reference

[empty jasper]

Shes not a tank tbh.... but she heals your team when she takes 10% of her health as damage, hogan is a stunner, and he would defintely work better as a tank, also make mirael your highest level not silvia as mirael is a much better carry

Overall in the long run talene >>>>>>> hogan but their not used for the same thing so you cant rlly compare em like that

[undone vessel]

Ah, I assumed she was a tank as I kept seeing her in the front row in PvP. I'm using Mirael as my carry, but ended up being able to ascend Silvia to L+ waaaay earlier and had spare XP there (I still sometimes swap her out for Rosaline or somebody, but in certain fights she's been helpful)

[empty jasper]

Overall your doing great, im guessing your following some guides, but yeah talene is better later and put in front so she can take lots of damage to heal her team members and ultimate faster

[undone vessel]

Yep, there's still a ton of areas and heroes and things but I've tried to read some guides and stick to ascending the fodder tier characters to L+ (skipping L) and throwing everything else neat onto the crystal I'll stick with Hogan for now then and just use her as a maybe-this-will-work when I get stuck in the campaign again

[modern nacelle]

Mainly fereal and Shemira, but all of them are annoying

[proud edge]

Try lucius, rosa, mirael, rowan, tasi

[modern nacelle]

in that order?

[proud edge]

Yes

[inland socket]

Who, if anyone, would I replace eironn with in this lineup?

[proud edge]

@mild geyser Good news, 31-5 to 31-12 is super easy, its a nice change once you break that 31-4 wall

[proud edge]

I wouldnt

[inland socket]

Alright thank you! At this point I presume I just have to level up a bit

[mild geyser]

thanks. Something ill look forward too

[proud edge]

any luck with the comp I sent you?

[mild geyser]

This is the closest I’ve gotten

tasis just a pain in the butt

[proud edge]

Hmm I had 6 crystal levels on you as well

You may just need more tries. How's your gear?

[mild geyser]

pretty good. Eironn is has maxed gear, tasis has t2 5* weapon and boots, saf is running t1 boots and weapon and rowan has t2 5* boots and weapon and t1 3* hat and chest. I really should give saf better gear

[proud edge]

Can you put anything better on them? Ignore the faction bonus if its a tier higher or full 5 star

[mild geyser]

yea i can im just a lazy bum

[proud edge]

Do it and you'll breeze this!

[mild geyser]

haha thanks. Ill give it a shot later

[shadow onyx]

Ello may I ask for help
Been trying rowan tasi eironn ferael lyca but there isn't enough damage

[proud edge]

groot is currently fucking me up on 31-13

[proud edge]

what stage is that?

[maiden marsh]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=60

[shadow onyx]

29-60

[maiden marsh]

I know it's 29-60 since I'm stuck on it too

[shadow onyx]

Tried that but the only formation I can do is the one I said above
Just not enough dps so was wondering if you had any other ideas

[maiden marsh]

at 311 it sounds like a gear or artifact issue if you still can't clear it with a proven team

[proud edge]

Agreed, I cleared 29-60 at like 287 or so. Think with that comp

[shadow onyx]

That's fair enough
The gear is full T2 with right faction but the SI is only +10(for eironn)
I'll level that up and hope

[proud edge]

Oof yeah I had eironn at 30, tasi 20, lyca 20, ferael 20, rowan 30

[shadow onyx]

Makes sense thank you

[empty ibex]

I'm stuck here, not even the boss stage.

Merek's healing is just too much, Mirael's ultimate 70% kills at least two heroes, survivors take down everything they can (survivors are Rowan, Kong and Shemira) and only leave Lyca with half hp and 1 hp Merek. Suggestions?

I also changed the comp a bit and went a little better, changing Fawkes for Athalia directly at Mirael's face

And Kong on front of course

[proud edge]

wukong front is a good call. try swapping fawkes for tasi as well. And lucius backine

[empty ibex]

Ok, I'll try it out and see if it works

[empty ibex]

Winning comp, thanks for the help 👍

[proud edge]

Nice!

[clever oar]

Attempted this well over a reasonable amount of times over the past 24 hours...is it possible with current levels or should I wait for level 220

LB tower floor 120, it’s the last one I need to 120 to open the finch stars, the rest of them had ascended carries at lvl 220

[manic sandal]

Yeah everyone insta dies. Most have mythic 3* weapons, but no other mythics other than tali chest

[hidden kraken]

Rosa rowan front lucius belinda gwyn back

Or try to swap belinda with fawkes if hes coffin cc doesnt get cockblocked

[clever oar]

doesnt even get close to killing one person. i'm just too underdeveloped on the LBs at the moment. My friend's 3* belinda merc will do the trick once it refreshes next week

[maiden marsh]

For those that have done this stage, how important is the maxed SI/furn ferael on a scale of 1 to 10? Possible with this, or are we talking stupid amounts of attempts?

[mild geyser]

merc ferael made it extremely easy in my case

[maiden marsh]

Jeez I haven't even managed a kill yet lol

[mild geyser]

i ran grace on lyca

[maiden marsh]

Makes sense

[mild geyser]

i think chalice on rowan too

but i beat the stage within less than 10 tries with merc ferael

it felt like the lock out was just much smoother

[maiden marsh]

Damn

Might as well keep trying I suppose lol

[bright sigil]

Please help

[modern shell]

Who should I use

[quaint bone]

Any ideas?

[bitter cloak]

Need some help on this one

[ocean merlin]

Help with lineup (i switch between rowan and Kelthur) but id like to know whats best mainly for pve and pvp separately

[pale kettle]

How do I beat this level

[merry thunder]

@lofty cairn replace talene with Rosa

@summer cedar what is that site u always link with comps that worked for stages

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/kings_tower.php?floor=523

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar thnx!

[summer cedar]

👍

[solar kettle]

Any tips ?

[summer cedar]

thoran brutus daimon rowan lyca at a quick glance
stop building L

[solar kettle]

What

[charred ermine]

^ he meant that if you can't build a hero straight to L+, dont bother ascending it to L. It's just a waste of fodders

[violet acorn]

Whats the best team I can do rn?

[charred ermine]

oh no...

[violet acorn]

?

[charred ermine]

Only level your top 5 heroes in regards to whoever is highest in ascension, put everything else in the crystal. You're wasting experience/resources if you continue to level different heroes other than those 5. But with your question, I personally would go Izold, Daimon, Nara, lyca, Tasi

[solar kettle]

well the thing is i have plenty of fodder atm just need the elite coppies of like rowan

[violet acorn]

okey i will do it

[warm swan]

The point is you're spreading your fodders too thin. M Rosa needs L+ fodder. L+ Bel needs 2x L+ fodder. L Rowan gonna need 2x L+ fodder soon too. You have at least 3 heroes per faction that needs continuous fodder to bring them to A.

[plush mauve]

can anyone help, im stuck on 9-30

[solar kettle]

put rowan middle and swap talene and lucious maybe

[solar kettle]

oh ok

[plush mauve]

@solar kettle it worked, thanks

[solar kettle]

np

[manic ravine]

Need help how to beat this

[wraith venture]

Can someone give me 2 good teams?

[sand parcel]

how should I put Rowan in here, who to switch and their formation?

[modern shell]

Who are my 2 best support

[summer cedar]

why? what game mode needs 2 teams?

[wraith venture]

Challengers tournament cause we'll im i dont have the best teams

[summer cedar]

try talene wu tasi rowan rosa. wu should be lvl 100 asap

[wraith venture]

See

[summer cedar]

problem is u dont really have a second carry

[wraith venture]

Yea ik =/

But idk who to build that would be a good carry

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar any idea of who I should ascend next? Obv just waiting on copies for M+ and fooder for my Silas

[summer cedar]

ascension questions in #classic-questions

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar got it

[wraith venture]

Wait would joker be a good carry?

[summer cedar]

daimon should be next. idk anything ab joker f2p

[wraith venture]

Alright buh who should be on daimons team?

[summer cedar]

irrelevant since you haven't built him yet, but brutus lyca fera tasi rowan thoran etc are good teammates.

[wraith venture]

Alright thx il work on daimon then

[pale kettle]

@summer cedar any recommendations on how I can beat this level?

[summer cedar]

I suck at mauler tower. that said u don't really have a carry. safi or tidus, even vurk or kren, would do wonders, but without them it's a bunch of supports and tanks so I can't solve this.

[pale kettle]

Ok thank you

[sand parcel]

is this in order for their formation?

[summer cedar]

yep

[empty jasper]

Tasi & rosaline, try to get better ones

[pale kettle]

Help

[coral vault]

I just need a general lineup help (pretty new) chapter 7 campaign

[empty jasper]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[slate flower]

any tips for 20-30?

[pale kettle]

any advice? should i change my team? it’s working okay, just need to level more. any recommendations otherwise?

[wraith venture]

Probably get rowan to mythic and upgrade his si

[manic ravine]

Any help welcomed

[open thunder]

Hey all, just found out about the discord server. Any suggestions for this roster or should i just cut my losses and start fresh?

[maiden marsh]

Not great but not irredeemable. Ask in #classic-questions for this sort of thing

[daring vortex]

What’s a good comp for Joker? I usually just put him on my Ainz team but I don’t think he helps much

[daring vortex]

Definitely get that rowan to mythic ASAP

[lofty cairn]

ty this worked

[merry thunder]

@lofty cairn great!

[bronze nebula]

Need some help on deciding who to level

[merry thunder]

@bronze nebula looking at your current hero box concentrate on wukong

But you are really early game so your carry can change within a few summons

[bronze nebula]

So I should only level wukong

[solar yew]

You should level and focus your eironn he's a nice carry

[empty ibex]

I Know this comp is able to win this one for sure, the closest I've been is a literal 1 hp Vedan, but I lose because of his seemingly busted ultimat which boosts him to full health and kills the timer. What can I do to destroy that Vedan?

Nevermind, Tasi finally got him 👍

[dim glacier]

hello, i’m noob and i just pulled a bunch of new units. i don’t really know what to do with them. can someone help me craft a pve team?

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Thoran - Front;
Belinda, Rowan, Rosaline - Back;

[dim glacier]

i’ve been using those, except tasi in place of thoran. been having trouble with progressing, so maybe this will help. thank you

[pale monolith]

👍

[sinful comet]

may be follow the guide from #545929173471068170

[amber halo]

Will it work?

[dim glacier]

ah, okay. i’ll have a look at it. thank you

[sinful comet]

@dim glacier not trying to be bossy, from ur pic, some of the units have been prematurely ascended which can be corrected given the time. if u r unclear about guide, u can ask in #classic-questions .

[twin socket]

This is my current lineup just wondering if anyone gad some suggestions on what to change / upgrade btw i have a Legendary daimon this was taken before i ascendid

[pale monolith]

Brutus instead of Talene

[amber halo]

Nah Brutus/ tasi instead of shemira u don't need multi carries. Daimon is enough

Talene is amazing healbot in early game and gives time for daimon

[pale monolith]

His Shemira is already at L and his Daimonis only E, also Shemira is great early game. If he should switch someone with Tasi that should be Daimon

[amber halo]

He said his daimon is legendary that's why I said it.

[amber halo]

But honestly in early game i would use mirael at l+ until he get enough copies for ascended tier heroes

[pale monolith]

Then yeah it would be better to use Daimon as a carrier since you can keep him for the whole game but Shemira falls off

[amber halo]

And u should never make ascended tier heroes legendary without being able to make l+ it's waste of fodder.

[sinful comet]

ye but getting daimon depends on luck whereas, shemira is lab guarantee hero

[dim glacier]

no worries! i skimmed over the guide. i’ll be more careful about ascending them. i was just a little ticked about the flag that indicated they could be ascended lol. i’ll read the guide more closely later when i have more time

[pale monolith]

Yes but having an 5* A Shemira isn't going to do much after Ch 23

[amber halo]

Still in his current state daimon is 10 times better than shemira and ur lab coins should be used for dimensional heroes

[twin socket]

Im on chapter 9 so i think i want to build her untill i dont need her

[sinful comet]

still can be usable on some TR and tower climbing + linking with dimentional..

[pale monolith]

Yes sure go ahead and use all your resources on her, if you are still gonna play in a few months you're going to regret it and in the best case scenario she will be linked to an Dimensional

[amber halo]

Use lab coins on dimensionals not shemira

[pale monolith]

^^

[pale kettle]

Heyy guyz i need some help with my team who should i keep and level and should i change and to what im in chapter 10 right now??

[twin socket]

Thats what ive been doing i bought her once which was a stupid move

[amber halo]

And when u used them on dimensionals buy arthur in lab or save for next rotation. Yeah ik i did that mistake too

[pale monolith]

Tasi front row, switch Antandra with Rosaline

[amber halo]

And don't star up characters change ur wishlist whenever u get 8 copies of them. But that's for later

[twin socket]

Ill keep that in mind as i progress

[amber halo]

Put rowan on ur wishlist asap

[twin socket]

I got this and put i on daimon was that a good desicion

[amber halo]

Fine his best one tho is drape/call

Idk at what point u get that

[pale monolith]

Dura's Grace sucks once you get out of early gme

[pale kettle]

Alright thank you!

[pale kettle]

Had em in it since the start still didn't pull one out!

[amber halo]

Still a few heroes need it later but yeah it's far from as good as duras eye for example

[signal lintel]

Can someone help me make 4 teams for chap 33?

[tepid holly]

Welp

[sour ledge]

Which merc should I be looking for? A good Skreg?

[vernal gyro]

Anybody else did this with this lineup? Tasi Lyca Arden are annoying 😄 28-20

[drowsy gazelle]

Idk if you can follow, but this is what i used

[vernal gyro]

Yea I can I think

Weird that I works, isn’t it?

[drowsy gazelle]

Yep

[vernal gyro]

Hm, my albedo is too weak I think

[warm nimbus]

Hey, need hella help with what I got. What would be the strongest build?

[vital torrent]

any suggestions?

[warped geyser]

Looking for advice for 3 lineups for the Legends Challenger Tournament

And for the normal arena/campaign I guess. Trying to get more copies of Daimos for carry atm, but gatcha isn't being nice :(

[sand breach]

Any tips to beat this lvl?

[vernal gyro]

Use einronn I guess

For lyca tasi or Brutus

[leaden spruce]

Any good lineups?

[neat light]

Help

[wheat plover]

What heroes should I use?

[turbid mesa]

I keep getting shredded but im not sure whether I just need to ascend/level my heroes higher or its a problem of hero placements and artifacts, I just wanna know if this is possible with my currently hero pool

(I could use a mercenary but im about to beat the chapter and wanna save it for that final fight)

(artifacts)

[queen wolf]

Any help here?

[charred ermine]

How long does Rowan survive after getting jumped by Silvana?

[queen wolf]

Seconds 😂

[queen wolf]

Too quick for him to have any effect

[frigid vine]

how can i make this better

[queen wolf]

Your too early in the game to give much advice dude, see the pinned newbie guides, just keep playing and pulling heroes

[crisp ermine]

Hi came back to afk arena after not playing for like a year, what’s a good pve comp?

[frigid vine]

yeah but are my other hero’s better than the ones i currently have in my line up? @queen wolf

[queen wolf]

Your good for now with what you are using

[queen wolf]

Stop making legendary heroes if you can’t get them to legendary plus, you will regret it later

[crisp ermine]

sorry im confused about the game haha, what does making it legendary do? ive just been ascending whatever i can lol

[queen wolf]

Legendary is good but you may not get the card you need to ascend higher for a long time, so it’s best to wait until you have enough copies to go straight to L+.
What could happen now is you get other characters who you could ascend but you’ve already used that fodder

[full merlin]

Anybody got an advice?

[frigid vine]

how should i line them up

[woven lagoon]

try replacing Lucius with Arden then swapping Arden and Shemira. May require some RNG to not get charmed by Nemora

[woven lagoon]

At that level, pretty much any way you like, get everyone to level 60 at least then boost Wu Kong to 100 he will carry you for a bit

[frigid vine]

alright thanks

[queen wolf]

@woven lagoon can you take a look at mine? Not too far up, thanks!

[woven lagoon]

That is a real hard one, might want to use a merc. Either Lucius or Talene slot 1, and Belinda slot 3 to try and burst vedan before he can ult. Can try replacing Fawkes with Lyca for more burst and Nemora to try and cheese by getting their Shemira to ult her own team

Can replace Fawkes with a squishy mage as well to try and bait the Isabella so she doesn't burst rowan

[queen wolf]

Yeah it’s a rough one for sure! Ok I’ll give those a go, I was holding off on a merc in case I needed one to complete the chapter, thanks for the tips

[sand breach]

Any tips to beat this lvl?

[brittle pivot]

Anyone to help out with a 3 teams setup for legends tournament?

[maiden marsh]

I can try

[stoic cipher]

Any idea who I should 30 Si next? I was thinking ainz or albedo for synergy later

[narrow lark]

Ainz, Albedo, Izold would all be solid options

[fleet thistle]

can't make it im stuck

[brittle pivot]

Why is it that I can't upload a screenshot?

[solar kettle]

Any tips

[proud edge]

Where are you in campaign? Thoran is definitely a good option in addition to the ainz/albedo combo, and may help you more in the near future

[fleet thistle]

maybe bigger than 8mb?

[brittle pivot]

Nah, 771kb

[proud edge]

Maybe a daimon comp?

[proud edge]

Use rowan instead of lyca

[fleet thistle]

daimon comp?

[summer cedar]

might have to draw on it

[solar kettle]

i just lose even worse

[proud edge]

What's giving you issues?

[brittle pivot]

There. Any hints would be appreciated

[brittle axle]

Think im going down a good road for a team?

[solar kettle]

i just realized i replied to the wrong one but they are just outhealing my damage

and outshielding and no enemies are dying

[summer cedar]

... did you have a question or did I miss it?

[fleet thistle]

he flexin

[brittle pivot]

Yup. Asked above. I need some suggestions for the 3 teams combo

Needed in legends challenge tournament

[summer cedar]

are you hoarding emblems? I have some teams in mind but they really need SI to shine

[brittle pivot]

I maxed out saurus, rowan and ainz. Got about 200left.

[summer cedar]

ainz isn't maxed? I only see +20 there
I'm also considering your purple and gold emblems.

notably gwyn and fera's 20

[brittle pivot]

Ffs yeah. Ainz is si20. Got over 1500 each

[summer cedar]

...why? use em

tasi 15 fera 20 gwyn 20 at the very least

[brittle pivot]

Doing it now

[summer cedar]

team1: ainz albedo ezio {flex flex}
team2: eironn fera
team3: (expect to lose 3rd team is almost always a throwaway) saurus+ (bel or shem) maybe

more details found in u/afkarty's reddit guide

[brittle pivot]

Eiron to 20 is enough?

[summer cedar]

not really. u want him +30 but u said u don't have the emblems so it is what it is

[brittle pivot]

Ty. Much appreciated

[bleak rain]

I need your wisdom, how to beat this fight ? Any advice ?
Thanks for your time !

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=53
most common solution is to swap in nara to interrupt mehira

[bleak rain]

@summer cedar didn’t know this link, what a good idea ! Thanks !

[proud edge]

@summer cedar any ideas on 31-16? I've seen this comp work at a lower level. My Eironn pulls then gets melted. Already checked afkhelper

[idle marlin]

Can someone give me some advice on how to beat stages like this I always end up having to use a merc but I'd like to avoid that if possible

[summer cobalt]

What can I do to make my lineup stronger?

[mild geyser]

@proud edge perhaps barricade on daimon

[proud edge]

aw man thank you 🙂 now just to figure out team 2.

Did you get 31-4 settled?

[mild geyser]

nah. Im going to try again once i get more levels

[stoic cipher]

@proud edge @narrow lark chpt 32 but ya I was considering those and an off meta comp I recently learned of. Portal party comp lul

[summer cedar]

nobody there should melt him if he's geared and u get good rng. rowan's duck is hardly gonna kill him
p sure eironn can get melted anyway. let daimon do work

[proud edge]

I think its the other Eironn, but Sushi's barricade suggestion works so all good there. Now working on team 2. trying to cheese but I cant get enough energy on thoran

[proud edge]

I'd say thoran is the best option then. Ainz and albedo will take a much larger investment

[proud edge]

I say run it with a macro and get through it

[mild geyser]

i dont really like macro tbh. Kinda boring

[proud edge]

more boring than sitting there for two hours rerunning a stage manually?

I know a lot of people just use macro to try a comp overnight

[mild geyser]

i like to feel like im playing the game but im usually doing something else in the background

[proud edge]

for sure

@summer cedar @mild geyser I'm new to the cheese, any ideas?

[mild geyser]

toss ezizh in there

[proud edge]

for luc?

[mild geyser]

ye

also maybe talene frontrow so thoran can live longer

[proud edge]

@mild geyser you're my hero today

[mild geyser]

ngl cheesing without rowan is a lot harder than i thought

[empty jasper]

Cheese is killing everything except thiran, you need lyca get rid of lucius and talene ezhih behind or center thoran to pull backrow, and eironn in center or behind thoran to pull back row as well

[proud edge]

Thanks wolf, sushi's add of ezizh and talene front did it

[empty jasper]

I cheesed all of chapter 13

And 12... and 14..... i rlly needa stop this meme...

[idle marlin]

can someone please help me idk how to beat this!

[empty jasper]

Ainz to level 220, so you cna do more dmg

Im lower and on the same part

dont have a talene

Oh wait ncm your talene is elite... why are you using a talene

[idle marlin]

cause she heals a lot more than any other hero I have

and she doesn't die

[empty jasper]

Technically she does, and then grezhul will hit your ainz

Grezhul halfs your damage output of whoever hes hitting, you cant let him hit ainz or your screwed

[summer cobalt]

Is there anyone or places I should change for my people

[idle marlin]

so what do I do about it?

[empty jasper]

Im currently testing it, alna is working really well to immune grezhul, but since i dont have sig 20 rowan im only popping one ult

I havent pushed on my main in a few days so gimme a sec

[warm nimbus]

Need hella advice please lol, I need a stronger set up

[woven lagoon]

@warm nimbus I'd read some early game guides you are making a few beginner mistakes with ascending + You need a carry really

[proven magnet]

Any halp guys?

[empty jasper]

Your lacking a carry, get a joker if you can

[empty jasper]

I was testing around and cant seem to get it perfect, but ive gotten it down to 2 left, its really just whether or not the tasi and ainz ukt fast enough

[keen scroll]

Just made it to chapter 31 and need help working on a 2nd lineup other than wilder eironn

[maiden marsh]

show us what you got, though the second lineup is unlikely to remain static, as well as the first

[idle marlin]

alright

[empty jasper]

Swap tasi for talene maybe? Youll get a better team buff

That or place rowan in

[keen scroll]

I have been stargazing for twins, but feel like I need a carry

[proven magnet]

Ill give it a go. Thanks

[maiden marsh]

pretty much your only options are gwyn and thoran from what I can see, so you do really want another reliable carry like daimon asap

[empty jasper]

Just commit, your almost done with twins, then get the talene for god comp

[empty jasper]

He has eironn wdym?

[maiden marsh]

for the second team

[empty jasper]

Ah ic ic nvm mb

Welp he could thoran cheese with thoran ezhih and some others

[keen scroll]

Does thoran cheese still work

[empty jasper]

He even has flora

[maiden marsh]

without SI30 on thoran they'll want a more flexible second team. thoran cheese does work though

[empty jasper]

Thoran strat works wherever you want it to work

[empty jasper]

Ive thoran cheesed chapter 12 through 14with my alt for fun, and it definitely works its just pure rng and lots of retries

[maiden marsh]

iirc you're doing it at a level higher than the enemy which is anything but thoran cheese

actual thoran cheese works at theoretically infinite level deficit

[empty jasper]

Oi near chapter 14 and ive done sum in 15 their a higher level and ive one shot em all

[keen scroll]

I'm at a 60 lvl deficit. Just need a 2nd lineup for boses and I'm not sure who to gaze for

[empty jasper]

Also theoritically anything works at infinite level deficit to an extent, but if the thoran dies before it ults then itll never happn

[maiden marsh]

gaze? twins to ascended 100%

[empty jasper]

Link albedo to an ascended, otherwise why even use her in ainz comp

Unless you at 2 teams alrdy i guess

[maiden marsh]

to an extent means they eventually don't work, however for thoran if it's a stage he works against, it doesn't matter if the enemy is level 10 billion

[woven lagoon]

Brutus for Talene, Eironn for Ferael or Lyca

[empty jasper]

It does if his energy bar isnt full before hes dead

[silk drift]

I don't use Ainz comp. I am still saving to get her SI to +30 first

[empty jasper]

But yeah i get your point

[empty jasper]

You honestly dont need si 30+ for it to work though

[maiden marsh]

His energy bar only needs to be at 450 actually

[inland socket]

Have I reached the game breaking point

[empty jasper]

Fr? Never knew

[maiden marsh]

Gains 150 on rez with 9F, then another 400 from rowan

[shut sentinel]

Im stuck at 8-40 what team should i make to progress better

[silk drift]

she is still +10 anyway not strong enough. once I ascend Rosa I will link Albedo with her. just need E+ fodder

[maiden marsh]

7 level deficit? anything but impossible

[empty jasper]

The only reason your stuck is cuz your carry is shemira dogwater

Im in the same chapter and my highest is 161 and the rest r 140 ;-;

[inland socket]

Ikr it’s sad. This is what happens when you leave for 2 years and have none of the new stuff

[empty jasper]

Wait wait tou left for 2 years? Pvp will suck, might wanna reset

[inland socket]

I literally get 2 shot 😅

[maiden marsh]

That implies pvp is important lmao

[empty jasper]

Get a arden to stun em

[woven lagoon]

Yeah because your Shem is frontlining vs Belinda

[silk drift]

this formation is much better than mine. I wil keep retrying hopefully it will work. Thanks

[empty jasper]

Wait what? Oh god, i didnt know such words were banned

[inland socket]

I put her in back line it just made zero difference as CC dies. Dunno who to put in front...was thinking thane but he’s only 3

[empty jasper]

Anyways how else will i give flowers to catfish

[woven lagoon]

np, swapping Eironn for Ferael gives you the meta Daimon comp pretty much, I find it much strong than Eironn/Daimon comp

[empty jasper]

Dont match kaz to your shemira, get a factional buff so you live longer

[silk drift]

I really need 3/3 for Daimon. even when he does tons of damage he doesn't kill enemies. Ferael helps him but Ferael is like glass dies easily

[empty jasper]

Literally just level that daimon, and put sum supports behind it

[inland socket]

Swapped position of Shem and brutus and added nemora for fac buff...did little sadly lol

[empty jasper]

Nemora bad arden chad

Also two wilders =/= faction buff

[empty jasper]

Lyca frontrow swap brutus for tasi, and fawkes for nemora i guess, but arden would be better

[shut sentinel]

If i knew who of mine are supps...

[inland socket]

I swapped nem for talene and won

[empty jasper]

Rosaline, mehira, talene, rowan, arden, respen. For a tank use thoran or wukong i guess

[empty jasper]

Congrats

Nemora = arden but can only distract one unit enstead of 3

[empty jasper]

Also make sure lyca is on your wishlist, shes very versatile and works in tons of teams

[sacred drift]

Helphelphelphelphelphelphelp

[karmic dune]

Fawkes gets me a bit closer, but im just not dealing any damage at all

[warped geyser]

New player here, I was going Graveborns, but gatcha isn't being kind so I'm swapping to Mireal carry. Thinking of using Rowan and Lucius, what should I slot in the for the latest two? Also, Mireal in the middle?

[grand perch]

Hello @warped geyser,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[empty jasper]

Dont use lucius commit to wilder be chad

You could use mortas and arden and tasi and mirael and rowan, or swap out rowan for pippa or swap tasi for rosaline

[lethal rivet]

any suggestions?

[maiden marsh]

[tepid holly]

Can’t use your comp, I tried it from friends list but I haven’t got 3/9 ferael or tasi

Tasi 10/10 times gets one shotted on every rng line

[maiden marsh]

tbf her getting oneshot is less of a 3F thing and more of a gear thing

[tepid holly]

I ran wilders gear, max haste on boots with fac bonus 😭

Reckon I should try spam rng

Nvm @maiden marsh ur lit😂

[maiden marsh]

I figured as much

[tepid holly]

[red fable]

All my heroes die before anyone can get an ult off

[tawny vessel]

stuck on this, any suggestion?

[maiden marsh]

try changing silvina for arden

[hollow hatch]

and talene for rowan

[vagrant sandal]

A constant issue that i come across with saurus is that he isn't able to kill warrior units quickly enough to get his stacks going, any ideas on what i should use or build to remedy this? normally i would be able to teleport the two frontlines on top of each other and kill both, but pippa doesn't seem to be able to do that to warriors(?)

[wintry agate]

I've tried running lucius instead of brutus but my entire team just dies way too early, am I just stuck here?

[proud edge]

Honestly your best option is to get daimon to 240 and use him as your carry

[grim coyote]

Who is the best counter for Brutus?

[vagrant sandal]

alrighty, thanks

[proud edge]

tasi or rosa may be better for you than fawkes

[grim coyote]

I'm stuck on a tower level that has two Brutus characters and since they're magic immune it's giving me a tough time

[proud edge]

fawkes

[grim coyote]

Thank you! I don't have him yet, though. Dx I want to get him soon he seems really good. Is there anyone else that might be good against Brutus?

[proud edge]

post your box and I'll see what youve got

[empty ibex]

Floor 93? Or is it higher?

[grim coyote]

It's 280-something I believe

286

[empty ibex]

Oh, i see. Yeah, try to get Fawkes, he does really well against Brutus

[wintry agate]

What about my positioning or brutus/lucius choice

[empty ibex]

If not, Tasi should do the trick since she can get him out of the game

[proud edge]

post your box and maybe I can help

[wintry agate]

I have one reso crystal spot too

[wintry agate]

I'm still fairly mid/early game. Please don't be mad at my mythics >.<

[tawny vessel]

Passed it , thanks!

[proud edge]

Is your carry Shem? If so, take the levels off tasi and put them on your carry. Carry always gets the levels first. For lineup, your top row there may be your best bet, with luc for estrilda to stall better

[grim coyote]

Shem's my carry, but I put them on Tasi for now because I don't have the purple dust needed to up Shem right now.

Thank you!!

[icy parcel]

exactly, if you reset Tasi you also get the dust back, so you can break cap on Shemira and then have tasi at 180

[proud edge]

You're early game until you hit 240 at least on your crystal.

Your mythics make me want to rage, be smarter with your fodder and you'll progress faster

Take the extra levels off luc and put them into shem

Tasi and rosa may be better than talene and fawkes here

[proud edge]

What Gabe said, reset tasi

[grim coyote]

Thank you!!

[icy parcel]

regular tower or faction specific tower?

[grim coyote]

regular

[empty ibex]

Stuck here. Silvina eats everyone and is at full health no matter what. I'm considering resetting someone since I doubt my carries will be able to burst through at this level. What do you guys think?

Athalia makes it a little more manageable, but it's not enough

[twin dove]

I need help on my alt

[wintry agate]

A lot of my mythics are just waiting for more l+ fodder which just takes forever. I didn't use any non fodder to get my L+ to L+ or Mythic though, It's just been taking me a while to get to L+ Fodder.

[proud edge]

You shouldn't take anyone to M if you cant take them to M+. Same for L to L+. If it takes a while to get those copies, you slowed yourself down and capped your level

[icy parcel]

the real question is, do you got the 4 extra copies for Shem, Brutus, Lucius and Nemora?

[proud edge]

Exactly. If you dont, you are going to have a real slow time getting your crystal to 240

[wintry agate]

I'm missing 1 shem, 1 nemora, and 2 brutus and 4 lucius

[icy parcel]

4 lucius, then why did you even go the extra mile to make him M+? Shem and Nemora should be alright that being the case

[wintry agate]

That was my super early on mistake before joining the discord. I saw he was good on as a tank and boosted him early

[proud edge]

It's not the end of the world, just going to slow you down a bit

[icy parcel]

understandable

[sour pond]

yo any good line-up. which hero should i borrow for this

what the actual fuck....

[proud edge]

Delete that post and post one shot of the stage and one of your box

[icy parcel]

I would vote Skreg for disruption

[icy parcel]

why is there a greyed out level 329 Tidus??

[proud edge]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/the_brutal_citadel.php?floor=238 vurk could also be an option with your lineup

[sour pond]

bc im using borrowed tidus

[proud edge]

He has a merced one in play

[icy parcel]

didnt see the icon, my bad

[sour pond]

okay ill try to borrow skreg /vurk now ty for your ideas

[languid pier]

please help bros?
I have over 3000 tries, nothing worked.

[sour pond]

arthur in front of ainz - rowan near to ainz

[proud edge]

that athalia isnt helping you

[woven lagoon]

I completed it same level as you with Tidus/Skreg/Numi/Skriath/Saf

[sour pond]

okay ty 🙂

[woven lagoon]

Replace Athalia with Nara opposite Mehira

[languid pier]

what else to use? I tried nara I tried without athalia arthur albedo ainz rowan tasi no bueno

[proud edge]

scrap tazi for nara pulling mehira

[slow sleet]

What do I do

[midnight bay]

Can anybody help me?

[empty ibex]

Have you tried Tasi instead of Joker?

Daimon front, Tasi back. Use Tasi ult so she can stop Vedan from slaughtering everyone, support using Rowan ultimate so he can charge Lucius and survive as long as possible until you win

[sacred drift]

i still need help aaaa

closest ive gotten was throan brutus eirron daimon lyca, but athalia always just kills daimon and eirron with the ult

[empty ibex]

Have your tried using Fawkes? Faction advantage should give you the upper hand aswell

[sacred drift]

i forgot if i got fawkes or not, but if i do, where should i put him? @empty ibex

[empty ibex]

Fawkes in three should do it since it doesn't really matter the place he's put on he'll always delete the strongest enemy temporarily

[sacred drift]

alright well ill try

[empty ibex]

Good luck, if it doesn't work then patient and keep upgrading and levelling up until you win 👍

[lethal rivet]

mehira keeps surviving with a sliver of health

[languid pier]

how many fucking more millions does he need to do to beat this shit?
pls help with other ideas.

https://gyazo.com/6ecd14da1212573e5cbc1b223d8c1fd9

and I still lost :c

[inland socket]

Sorry for the repeated questions but ...how do you deal with a wilder back line like that with crazy CC. My instinct with Fawkes but he gets one shot

[languid pier]

did you try daemon instead of shemi

[inland socket]

She’s no where near high enough level

As she’s a trial I can’t hear her

[languid pier]

daemon is a boy!

[inland socket]

Him*

[empty ibex]

Try using an assassin right on her face. Athalia can win some time for your other heroes to charge their ults

[lethal rivet]

its mauler faction tower...

[languid pier]

🥲

[empty ibex]

Oh, I didn't notice. Sorry about that.

[lethal rivet]

xD

[empty jasper]

You arden the arden

[hazy wagon]

Can anyone help me beat 17-7?

[cerulean cedar]

If the ascended hero isn't working then I can't help you man sorry

[hazy wagon]

Is there any support i can swap?

[cerulean cedar]

Try taking out tasi

[empty ibex]

Tell us which are the enemy heroes that are giving you trouble and the closest you've been from winning

[hazy wagon]

Ill run through it a couple times and get an average

[empty ibex]

Ok

[hazy wagon]

I beat it.....

[red fable]

Can someone help me I cant kill a single enemy before all my heroes die

[empty ibex]

Great! Which comp did you use? Maybe you were having bad RNG all along

[hazy wagon]

This was the line up

[twin socket]

I need a wilders lineup

Any lineup with 3+ wilders

[empty ibex]

I don't think having Brutus up front is a good idea considering he's at a disavantage against Hogan. Have you tried putting Lucius up front?

Maybe using an assassin like Athalia directly at Mirael's face would work

[warm swan]

@twin socket without any further context, I'm just gonna say the Wilder trio

[twin socket]

This is what im facing

[warm swan]

That looks like a pain to deal with. But why 3 wilders specifically? Also, why you have so many L heroes?

[hazy wagon]

Uhhh idk how to work with this

Maybe replace Tasi with Brutus?

[twin socket]

Its the secret of the forest thing idk why i have so many L im at a position where i cant get anything

[languid pier]

elp

[idle marlin]

How can I beat this? Ferael is so stupid

[warm swan]

@twin socket you should really check the guide. Brutus for Tasi is a good suggestion as mentioned by Moped as his roar makes Kaz vulnerable.

[twin socket]

What guide?

[warm swan]

Pinned beginners guide on #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

a somewhat common counter is to place nemora opposite him. he'll spirit his own team

[dull trellis]

Is it possible at this level?

[idle marlin]

I tried that but she doesn't do anything

[summer cedar]

well no, not really. she just makes ferael wreck his own team

[idle marlin]

she always goes for grezhul

[summer cedar]

then u try again. it's rng

[idle marlin]

ah

[lusty osprey]

The hardest part about this level isn't the boss but the Brutus. It just seems like he just will not die. With that said, what can I do for this stage?

[idle marlin]

do I have to put nemora front line?

[valid timber]

will i need a merc for this

[summer cedar]

? I said to place her opposite him

[fossil solar]

Any help please 🙏

[waxen tinsel]

feel like i'm stuck on 6-29 because i want, anyone can tip me out on how to build this?.. or i should summon more to figure out a team?

[summer cedar]

I imagine saurus is getting wiped by shem so swap tasi and lyca
alternatively could try nemora at 3 and hope she charms correctly

[twin dove]

Help on alt

Daimon and silvina dies early

[wheat gate]

I get completely wiped

[fossil solar]

@summer cedar I tried, Brutus shreds through everyone

[brave wagon]

the problem with that team is that you have no dps carry, joker is more of a cc support than a dmg dealer

[maiden marsh]

putting joker across grez leaves him vulnerable to have his stats stripped away, try swapping joker and brutus

[wheat gate]

I still get completely wiped already tried putting eiron and shem in

My team doesn’t have time to ult before they all get completely wiped

[brave wagon]

try talene frontline, and shem instead of joker

shem behind brutus btw

[wheat gate]

I get completely shut down no matter what I change am I just going to be hardstcuk for a while again..

[leaden spruce]

Any good substitutes for Lucius?

@wheat gate I see your heroes are underleveled, try upgrading them and also their gears

Also if you have some good light bearers try putting them at the front lines, prolly a tank like lucius

[wheat gate]

Lucius is the only one but if I put him in I don’t get damage my shem just instantly vanishes

Vladimir just deletes everyone when he gets his ult or whatever his name was

[wheat gate]

Rowan instead of cecilia

[summer cedar]

this is a loaded question with a lot of answers. can u be more specific

[wheat gate]

I would put belinda in for her atk boost but she’s underleveled

[summer cedar]

try saurus rosa ceci rowan twins

[lofty cairn]

i have slots in my crystal btw

[summer cedar]

unless u have a warek or lorsan, what I said is probably the best team u got

[lofty cairn]

alr

@summer cedar just remembered i have E lorsan

[proven magnet]

Need help on arena of trials

[summer cedar]

check afk guide

[summer cedar]

this early on I'm not sure he'd survive tbh. stick with what I gave u cuz there's nobody there I'd remove just yet. later on u won't need rowan but u probably do to keep ceci up

[bleak rain]

Guess it’s the end of the grind for now, unless you have an idea ? This first team wreck me so hard
Thanks for your time

[summer cedar]

search ur stage https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=16. p sure u can run my lineup

[summer cedar]

try brutus talene rosa mira rowan maybe

[bleak rain]

@summer cedar gonna give it a shot, thanks !

[lofty cairn]

@summer cedar did not work for kings tower but accidentally worked for my campaign stage so thanks!

[bitter cloak]

Any tips for this one?

[summer cedar]

don't put gwyn where athalia's gonna one shot her. maybe swap her and talene. also don't need 2 carries, run ainz or gwyn but not both

[frigid vine]

ok guys i need help on finding a 5th

[warm swan]

Arden

[candid plover]

What would be the best team to build with these units?

[gaunt umbra]

Maybe this is a good team

[candid plover]

Gonna try it thx

[warm swan]

@candid plover Daimon + whoever he needs to survive and ult many times. So maybe Lucius, Rowan, Tasi, flex

[eternal pumice]

Can't get passed this

[pale kettle]

Who gets ascended?
Who do I choose >.<

[fading inlet]

eirron, rosaline or shemira

[pale kettle]

Hmm
I'm guessing I lose 2

[twin dove]

Choose wukong or rowan from the hero chest

[narrow lark]

I'm trying to get through 9-20 asap and I'm stuck here, could use some help.

[warm swan]

@pale kettle Wait till you're capped, then re-assess who has the most copies to get straight to A. And keep the chest for the meantime

[eternal pumice]

Need help passing chapter 8.

[stray jungle]

Is wilder trio + eironn + shemira not working for you?

You also have arden which is amazing (back then)

maybe you just have to afk more. you got pretty good celapogeans. wow

[hidden cobalt]

Stuck for 2 days

[cerulean lynx]

Any suggestions on this?

[neat light]

Help pls

[tepid holly]

Arden ogi tasi + haste 🤬

[worn pilot]

Any ideas on how to beat?

[lunar garden]

Heeelp

[scarlet hollow]

Stuck :/

[icy parcel]

Suggestions? Can't seem to pop Grez before tombstone nor Verdan before bats

[icy parcel]

Do you happen to have Gorvo? I see you use Arden to trigger Joker AOA, but he is being killed by Silvina

[scarlet hollow]

Yes only 1 copy

[icy parcel]

That should suffice, get him on crystal, he does a dive from the air which stuns enemies and triggers AOA

[scarlet hollow]

Okay thank you I’ll give it a try. Up until now I was using lorsan instead of Rowan for the chain damage but this stage had me stuck for a whole day lol

[sudden flower]

Which character fits for last slot better
Rosaline, rowan or who?

[jagged pike]

I think muhtar can be good

[sudden flower]

@hidden cobalt put in carry instead of 4 supports 1 tank to deal damage

[hidden cobalt]

Iv tried saurus in there but it just doesn’t seem to work idk who I have that is a real carry

[sudden flower]

U could try belinda since she is mythic , but carry should be at least 20 levels ahead of ur other members

[hidden cobalt]

I was going to link joker to her when exchange opens should I use her for now then drop her later ?

And if so should I buy her SI

[sudden flower]

Cant give you advice on that try asking in #classic-questions

[meager parrot]

any help on 32-60 fight 3?

[fallow ruin]

This level feels Fn impossible

[hidden cobalt]

@sudden flower na I got Belinda to lv 180 and just nothing that stupid golum is so tank hfhsnfudoaofjfjea so frustrating

Then that stupid Isabelle does her grave wheel of fortune that kills anyone such bs

And like my team gets their ult bars to the end and I aware they just don’t activate them for the hell of it

[vale stump]

@drowsy gazelle if you get a sec here it is, I'm sure this is winnable with rng but enemy eironn oneshots eveything so little room to work with.

[quaint phoenix]

Need a luc cheese comp

[vale stump]

i beat it btw took a lot of retries tho

[hidden cobalt]

Dragging my skull across the ground

In good news I have gained 1 more daimon copy

[drowsy gazelle]

I was eating my lunch lol

[vale stump]

its ok i was on the throne, op op

[drowsy gazelle]

You should be able to see my 28-52 comp right? Just copy it

[vale stump]

shush, i beat it without your dummy grez

joux switched to 5 pull which i dont have, so time for tree to do his thing

[drowsy gazelle]

Well technically my comp is original as well so

[vale stump]

its grez therefore it bad mhm

[drowsy gazelle]

U just dont see the appeal of grez carry

[vale stump]

i just dont have grez lmao

[sacred drift]

still stuck lol rip

[knotty island]

So apparently my Belinda should not be up front... Um I’m all for another whole formation idea or just a form I can go by?

[amber halo]

How do I win this?

[fresh comet]

New player looking for suggestions on starter lineup with what I have summoned

[pale monolith]

Daimon, Skreg - Front row;
Wu Kong, Mirael, Numisu - Back row; Also check pins in #questions

[fresh comet]

Thanks ! I did check pins but I will do that again :)

[amber halo]

Remove shemira put tasi in frontline and belinda where shemira was. In some cases lyca instead of tasi

[vale stump]

@drowsy gazelle

I've played with like eironn too, i havent figured out one yet

[drowsy gazelle]

i believe you can 3 pull this
put
safiya

daimon
eironn
rowan
ferael/tasi

[vale stump]

Tasi banishes tree, so solution probably doesn't involve her

Eironn daimon fera rowan was closest idk 5th slot

I'll try saf sure

[supple pulsar]

i think fereal probably works better that saf against brutus

[pale monolith]

Fuck Fereal

[sturdy fractal]

So these are the heroes I have, can I make any decent formations for Arena/pvp or so? Even if the heroes arent strong right now maybe formations for a bit later? Because right now i just throw stuff together and hope it works

[supple pulsar]

albedo/rowan/joker/ainz/lyca probably works ok

[sturdy fractal]

That's the main team I'm currently using, was wondering if maybe I had any other strong formations I didn't know about, because my second team for like Challenger tournament is just basically whatever ascended I have left

[shy pecan]

Was hoping for help with a decent pve team, any ideas?

[sacred drift]

Still cant beat is, best ive done is kill thane before athalia ohkos daimon

[cursive lodge]

daimon brutus tasi rowan lyca ig

[violet igloo]

@sacred drift well you got a really strong carry. You'll have to position him correctly. Id say something like :

Belinda
Daimon
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi

Maybe replace belinda with lyca. Belinda is here only to give you faction bonus and to boost Daimon attack. Then play with positionning. If Lucius dies before ult, replace with him Brutus. GL

[pale monolith]

Throran, Brutus - Front row;
Daimon,Rowan , Eironn - Back row;

[narrow lark]

Help?

[pale monolith]

Rowan instead of Gwyneth

[violet igloo]

@narrow lark read the guide pinned in this channel. It's 1 page, and will help you a lot. You ahve too many DPS heroes, and you need to put 1 hero +40 levels higher than other hero

[sacred drift]

Yeah nah nothings working 😦

@violet igloo the problem is that if i put daimon frontline he dies coz lucius and raine do too much dmg to him when he doesnt have his bloodshiels up

[violet igloo]

@sacred drift it's not lucius doing the damage it's rain. Also it's normal that he dies, that means that he's not in the right position. Keep changing around positions and moving around your heroes until Daimon doesn't die. If nothing works, you need more levels

[sacred drift]

Alright

[narrow lark]

The team was wiped almost immediately

[violet igloo]

@narrow lark did you read the guide ?

[sacred drift]

Actually paddy, what artifacts should i use for each hero?

@violet igloo

[violet igloo]

@sacred drift do you have all artifacts ?

[sacred drift]

Ive got up to chalice of vitality @violet igloo

[violet igloo]

ok

well try with call or drape i'd say

[sacred drift]

Alright

Yeah nothings working, i probs need to lvl up my heroes. Welp

Ty for the help anyways @violet igloo

[shy pecan]

Any help for a good pve team?

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Thoran - Front row;
Shemira, Rowan , Rosaline - Back row;

[violet igloo]

@shy pecan I strongly recommend you read this 1 page guide 🙂 https://bit.ly/afkarena_quick_start_guide you have too many heroes stuck in legendary

@sacred drift most of the time, Daimon will be on call

[shy pecan]

thank you, will read it when i have the chance

[narrow lark]

If I follow your guide I’ll have one to two lvl 120 heroes and everyone else will be stuck at 80. How does that help me get past 9-19 and 9-20?

[violet igloo]

@narrow lark you don't understand. You need to put your DPS hero lvl 120 in your case, and other heroes can be lvl 100 or 110. Then you when put your DPS to legendary ascencion, you can put that hero to lvl 140.

🙂 you haven't got any hero to legendary yet

you can put Saveas to legendary actually

[narrow lark]

No I don’t have nearly enough Fodder to do that

[violet igloo]

you do

put him legendary, then put him lvl 140 and other heroes lvl 100.

Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Wukong

you'll see you clear like 20 levels in one go

[sacred drift]

I wish i can do that lolz

Oh welp brb gonna finish my peaks of time stuff coz i got nothing better to do

[violet igloo]

gl

[sacred drift]

Thx

[shy pecan]

im stuck on this, ive tried all sorts of team comps but they end up getting deleted

[narrow lark]

It didn’t work, but thanks for the help

[violet igloo]

@narrow lark you can do it

[narrow lark]

I did once I got rid of Wukong >.> monkey dude sucks

[violet igloo]

Go to temple of ascension, and put Saveas E+ and then Ankhira E+ and Golus E+. Saveas will transform into Saveas Legendary

[narrow lark]

I did that

[violet igloo]

I circled them for you

[narrow lark]

He’s as high a level as I can make him

[violet igloo]

Now put Saveas lvl 140, reset your other heroes

[narrow lark]

Only had enough for 134

[violet igloo]

Ok, well keep trying the battle. Does Lucius ult?

Move around Saveas position until it works 👌

[narrow lark]

The Lucius is borrowed he’ll be the same as the highest rarity, my actual Lucius is just an E

[sacred drift]

oh i forgot to ask @violet igloo at what lvl should i replace my daimon with eirron as carry?

[fossil solar]

Looking for help with this level

[undone vessel]

Maybe a super dumb question but after rereading some guide I noticed that they suggest running three support heroes, a carry and a tank. Does this mean your carry should be on the front line, like in my screenshot? I've been putting Mirael middle back behind two tanks or similar as the game tutorial told me too, but I'm not sure how else to place 3 support + 1 carry + 1 tank

[tepid holly]

Anyone have screens of 28-26?

[maiden marsh]

Of course

[tepid holly]

Thanks g

[worn pilot]

Any help please? No answer the past few days

[burnt citrus]

Anything I should change and focus on?

[worn pilot]

Any help please?

[split ice]

Not sure what you read, but you can put some supports in front

[split ice]

Based on my experience, I'd say "Don't make A heroes L/L+ unless you can get them to Ascended" -> you should build strong "future fodder" heroes to L+ and later use them as investment to your M/A heroes. Mirael, Saveas, Arden, Silvina are the way to go imho

[trim hazel]

What would be the ideal lineup for heros?

[worn pilot]

That is such a vague question

[split ice]

There's no rule imho. Very basic setup is with tank/warrior in front, support + carry back, but there are many different Teams which are different than that and work well.

[elfin frost]

why aren't you using your shemira/belinda?

[maiden marsh]

key issue here is joker bound to eironn. rebind to shemira, level shemira to 200 probably, maybe even take the last 20 from lucius and put them in eironn. eironn can help activate jokers AOA so they work well together. plus eironn is the last person to dim link especially if you don't have dim keys and literally have the shemira right there lol

[split ice]

Shemira up to lvl ~240 is usually the answer/all you need 😄

[worn pilot]

Whoops, you're right. Only recently got Shemira up. I still need a second set of Mythic gear for Eironn

[maiden marsh]

M+ so capped at 200

[worn pilot]

Thanks for recognizing my need for Lucius

[elfin frost]

another thing, Warek flips your lucius and kills him straight away, since he's your most ascended unit and only tank, you shouln't let him facing warek ever. Put talene in front of him as sacrifice since she will die regardless, remove lyca and put shemira or belinda in her place, behind lucius in the botton, and tell me how it went

[maiden marsh]

soon enough lucius will become a dim link too

[split ice]

True

[worn pilot]

Mhm. For Arthur

[split ice]

This might work well. Also binding any dimensional to Eironn is no go.

[nocturne bane]

You can do it with keys

[worn pilot]

I hate Warek

[sudden kettle]

hi, I'm new here, can you tell me, on what i should change & focus on?

[split ice]

Why waste keys, if you can use your Shemira/others 😄

[worn pilot]

But it works better for sure, I haven't tried Eironn yet

[elfin frost]

warek gets a shield every 5 seconds if you cc him, avoid using cc heroes on him to not giving him a shield, and try bursting him down

[split ice]

Based on my experience, I'd say "Don't make A heroes L/L+ unless you can get them to Ascended" -> you should build strong "future fodder" heroes to L+ and later use them as investment to your M/A heroes. Mirael, Saveas, Arden, Silvina are the way to go imho
If you don't know which hero will be your next Ascended it's usually safe to go for heroes which are close to it and you can buy their copies from the store.

[worn pilot]

It worked with Belinda, stage cleared!

Thank you Matt! And thank you for the input @maiden marsh , I will unlink Eironn

[trim hazel]

Congrats @worn pilot I'm glad your 2 days of waiting are now over

[elfin frost]

@worn pilot just a friendly reminder: don't use eironn into warek

[worn pilot]

I'll keep that in mind. Always learning something new

[trim hazel]

Aside from the obvious low level (because I'm new), what should I change? Because these 5 are helping progress me pretty well

[solar kettle]

try to keep one hero 20-40 levels above the others

[maiden marsh]

reset everyone to 60 and pump wukong to 100

[solar kettle]

^ wukong can carry for a while in campaign

[maiden marsh]

once wukong can't carry further because level cap, you'll probably want to build mirael as a fodder carry while you amass copies. I wouldn't use shemira carry if I could avoid it.

[solar kettle]

I mean shemira can carry extremely well until like chap 23 then she falls off a cliff and looses almost all value besides deimensional link

[maiden marsh]

but if they manage to grab 4 copies of daimon by the time they need to make mythics to break cap he'll carry 10 bajillion times better than shem right off the bat and on till multistages and beyond

[solar kettle]

well yea thats what I did I got ridiculous daimon luck i pulled 3 daimons in one faction summon

[trim hazel]

Are Baden or Silvina worth leveling?

[solar kettle]

Baden is awful

[maiden marsh]

silvina is food and baden is just bad. you may level silvina simply because you're at the stage where you build fodder for level cap though

[solar kettle]

Just make sure if you use them in ascension to reset them to get the resources back

[amber halo]

Baden is pretty good in Soren hunt tho

[maiden marsh]

far from optimal

baden's still not worth building, period really. bottom three graveborn to ascend for sure

[amber halo]

not according to whitesushi tho https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zgXJFL7ajDsFIIfh0liFZsclrSSsMLiTCnqht8V7_VE/https/i.redd.it/ig6l2u7cdg751.png?width=262&height=467

[maiden marsh]

what a remarkably old guide you've found

@amber halo here's a recent guide

[pale monolith]

Is Mortas good even at E?

[maiden marsh]

Yep. Most you'll need is E+ for abex

[proud otter]

Why Lorsan?

[pale monolith]

Soul linking thing

[proud otter]

Doesn't that link between two enemies? Which don't exist in wrizz fight?

[maiden marsh]

soul linking doesn't work against one enemy but he has another ability that increases allied ult damage against an enemy

[proud otter]

Oooh I see.

[pale monolith]

Didn't know that, been using Belinda, Saurus, Twins,Rowan, Rosaline

[proud otter]

Who is the damage dealer in top mid? Saurus?

[maiden marsh]

damage dealer is saurus in all of these

[pale monolith]

Yup,and Belinda does 10% of the damage. More of an energy farm with Rowan,Twins and Rosaline

[proud otter]

Interesting

[amber halo]

Alright thanks

[worn pilot]

@maiden marsh Eironn + Joker works pretty well. Eironn manages not to die despite only having 2 non-upgraded Mythic pieces

It's a niche setup, though. Doesn't work for every stage obviously

[maiden marsh]

with good gear eironn becomes very dodgy and hard to kill with enough retries

[worn pilot]

Yeah, I'm working on it 😎

I forgot to give him my Wilder T1 boots

[rich storm]

Entire chapter 10 is filled with khasos and saveas and my main heroes are wilders, in 30 sec will send my roster, sorry i cant find how to paste more images into 1 post. Generally saveas almost oneshot most of my heroes and khasos too, wondering if i shouldnt put some GB or LB into crystal to help. Nara plan was to sacrifice to keep saveas busy, helped with previosu stages

[pale monolith]

Hogan, Talene - Front row;
Eironn, Rowan, Tasi/Daimon - Back row;

[drowsy gazelle]

what you nid is a tank to soak up some hit, you can potentially put either thoran/brutus and make them to tank saveas's dmg

[amber halo]

Brutus or Lucius is maybe a better choice cz saveas will put thoran instant in regen mode

[rich storm]

trying that, im barely defeated! for tohers, lucius is merc, i dont have brutus

WOHOOO, @pale monolith your comp made the trick, tyvm

[pale monolith]

No problem 👍

[loud ledge]

What would be my best line up choice

[rigid trail]

what would be a good story push team. i’m in world 10 currently

[sudden flower]

@rigid trail 161 shemira 120 lucius

Ur main lvl up order should be shemira>daimon>rest
Or daimon >shemira>rest

[rigid trail]

@sudden flower i would level up daimon if i had enough essence

[frigid vine]

What are some good wilders?

[scenic lynx]

What I do bruv

[cerulean cedar]

@scenic lynx antandra in place of raine

[scenic lynx]

Bro it worked

teach me your ways

same lineup?

[radiant field]

Stuck on 32-56 ... can anyone give me some advice on teams?

[umbral obsidian]

Hi i am new. Any advice on what should i do. My cuurent heroes rn

[vernal gyro]

Anybody has a solution for 28-29, around the same level?

[vernal gyro]

Thanks, I’ll try

[warm mauve]

What heroes u have@radiant field

[warm mauve]

I assume rain and mirana get sniped @scenic lynx

[scenic lynx]

I dont understand

[warm mauve]

Try Lucius on antradas spot and put mirael in middle

[scenic lynx]

Ok

[warm mauve]

No luck?

[scenic lynx]

Swap raine and valene?

Havent began the battle yet

[warm mauve]

Try

[scenic lynx]

It worjed

[warm mauve]

Gg

[scenic lynx]

Please teach me your ways

[warm mauve]

Playing this game almost 2 years 😂

[scenic lynx]

@warm mauve You must be good at chess

It worked

So always keep tank on frontline?

[warm mauve]

Lol why u borrow mirael, numisu not rlly good

Well depends, i run diff comps, sometimes 2 tanks on front, sometimes1 , depends from enemy formation

[scenic lynx]

idk i thought I could ascend

I started like 4 days ago

[warm mauve]

If u need tips u can msg me

@scenic lynx

[scenic lynx]

Can I add you

[cerulean cedar]

whatever works, in that stage there's not really any optimal synergies thanks to the lack of skill ups

[nocturne bane]

reset your heroes

[vernal gyro]

@maiden marsh did it with einronn instead of ferael. Did you do the whole chapter with this line up?

[maiden marsh]

I varied a lot. Used eironn often as well, and occasionally 5 pull

[vernal gyro]

Okay, don’t have 5 pull yet. Do you have your solution for 28-32? Tried so many times already. Can’t seem to find a solution

[maiden marsh]

Same lineup lol

[vernal gyro]

Thanks so much! 🙂

[karmic mortar]

Been stuck for the longest now

[tall needle]

Are these good enough for smth

[maiden marsh]

Damn that's a lot of yellow. Stop making L heroes and spreading fodder

[tall needle]

Wut

[dark socket]

Is this possible with what I have? Help 🙂

[twin dove]

Yes

[tall needle]

I think it actually is

[vernal gyro]

@maiden marsh Thanks, did it again. Did you need so many retries as well?

[maiden marsh]

probably

[dark socket]

@twin dove Help then if its possible😅 🤣

[twin dove]

U need to spam retry

[maiden marsh]

Don't put shem across grez, he'll strip her stats and neuter her

[dark socket]

Im stuck by 4 5 days.. everyday i retryed

[tall needle]

You're lucky to be there

[twin dove]

Try different comps and spam

[dark socket]

@maiden marsh Help me with a formation bc i have no idea with what I have

[tall needle]

Im still on chapter 17

[maiden marsh]

Because you don't have a carry

[tall needle]

What do you mean

[maiden marsh]

None of your mythic heroes or even L heroes are very good at clearing things on their own. Belinda is the best of the worst from what I can see, but she's capped, lost in the sea of yellow

[tall needle]

Well i still have to get her on another elite

[maiden marsh]

Also this kind of advice is better suited for #classic-questions

[tall needle]

I just remembered is there any chance for the makers to put Ezizh's legendary look in the game

[maiden marsh]

Try talene, brutus, lyca, rowan, shemira

[dark socket]

@maiden marsh

[maiden marsh]

How many tries?

[dark socket]

Shemira cant ult

[maiden marsh]

Try swapping brutus and talene

Also if you're just trying once then giving up you'll never pass stages

[dark socket]

No results.. I can try them 1000 times but if shem ults cant show up theres no chance.. when ill get shem ult ill try them again and again🙂

[maiden marsh]

Whether shem ults or not will depend entirely on the attempt, it can change every time

[solar kettle]

can anyone help me with the stage im on 20-37

[maiden marsh]

Honestly? That's pretty much a nightmare scenario for daimon. I wouldn't be against just chilling for merc since you don't really have any alternatives.

[solar kettle]

who should i try and get as a merc

[maiden marsh]

I almost wanna say 3F skraith for 5 pull thoran cheese but there's probably a simpler solution lol. Plus thoran can't cheese tasi w/out 15 in tank tree. I usually clear heal-heavy stages with ainz but that's not exactly applicable here.

[solar kettle]

sooo who do you think

[maiden marsh]

Yeah I confirmed it first but your best bet is probably mercing a maxed out ferael.

[solar kettle]

i dont think I have and friends that have that

[maiden marsh]

No guild mercs either?

[solar kettle]

what do you mean

[maiden marsh]

You can choose mercenaries from guild exemplars. If you have a good guild with a bunch of whaley exemplars, mercs are abundant

[solar kettle]

well I dont think I do i just joined some random guild

[maiden marsh]

A good guild is always a worthwhile investment

[solar kettle]

yea im going to try and find one

[pale kettle]

Really stuck any ideas?

[solar kettle]

maybe using talene instead of nemora

[pale kettle]

@solar kettle thanks, been switching rowan for talent but still no luck. Usually I use zaphrael with joker As he activated jokers special ability and that usually does the trick but because of Isabella or silvina zaphraels jump ability is stopped, stopping jokers special too 😦

[solar kettle]

hmmm

wait i didnt realize nemora was your carry didnt realize he was 180

[maiden marsh]

Nemora is not a carry

[solar kettle]

ik

[pale monolith]

Thoran instead of Saurus, Belinda instead of Nemora

[solar kettle]

also maybe swap joker to the other side so grez wont summon on him

[maiden marsh]

Put nemora across ferael so she can charm him

[pale kettle]

Nothing seems to work I think I may have to just wait till I can power up equipment or maybe increase their levels

[lunar belfry]

Hello I'm new in this game, May I have some help to build a good pve team please?

[maiden marsh]

@native compass

[native compass]

Worked after 2 try thx! 28-57?

[maiden marsh]

[native compass]

wow ez. 28-58?

[maiden marsh]

Have fun

[native compass]

I think I'm fucked, I'm curious for 59 and 60, if I don't need a merc for them I'll use my last one here

[maiden marsh]

59 ez, 60 has an athalia. Pick your poison

[native compass]

kk, 60 will require a ferael (merc) so I'm fucked XD

thx a lot for your help 😄

[maiden marsh]

Didn't use ferael on 60

[native compass]

what did u use?!

[maiden marsh]

Eironn just gotta dodge like a god

[native compass]

ahh I see

[wispy tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803028398028226580/805121989727354900/Screenshot_20210130-085402_AFK_Arena.jpg I did this

[native compass]

You have 58 and 59 too?

[wispy tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803028398028226580/805121989428641833/Screenshot_20210130-082005_AFK_Arena.jpg

no 59, I only save hard stages and bosses

[native compass]

okok thx

[maiden marsh]

Said 59 was ez

[proud edge]

ToG stage here. I think this lineup should work, but I need positioning and artifact help

[nocturne furnace]

im pretty sure i just flipped the lineup with that stage, maybe replaced tasi with ezio

[proud edge]

ezio seems to be the go-to, but I started right after his event ended

[nocturne furnace]

i dont think hes needed buh its more rng without him

[valid timber]

brutus and skreg just have too much health

[native compass]

@maiden marsh thx bro. Like 5 tries only

[maiden marsh]

[proud edge]

This trial feels like an exercise in getting fucked by orthros

[raven hare]

Hey everyone. Am I missing something here?

[late rampart]

Hey who should be in my lineup?

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Talene - Front row;
Belinda, Tasi, Wu Kong - Back row;

[pale monolith]

You got Fawkes?

[scenic lynx]

Who oh yeah

no i dont

[pale monolith]

Switch positions between Mirael and Talene, Brutus in front of Vedan

[hidden condor]

Struggling in campaign, any help on lineups?

[pale monolith]

Hogan, Skreg - Front row;
Shemira, Rowan, Wu Kong - Back row;
Focus on leveling up Shemira

[hidden condor]

Should I unlevel the Saveas and pump it into Shemira?

[proud edge]

No, Saveas and mirael are better than shemira until 160 or so. And after 160 daimon is better than shem anyway

[paper basin]

Estrilda sucks

[hidden condor]

Got it, so I’ll just use that formation but sav over Shem

[proud edge]

Yeah that should be fine for a bit

youll phase out hogan and skreg and wukong quick. Rowan will be key for a long while

[proud edge]

Trial of Gods Howling wastes, this stage is awful. Any ideas?

[hallow kettle]

lyca instead of talene perhaps? is your tasi 100% energy so it can make everyone sleep at the start of the fight and disable lorsan from linking+stop eironn from succing. can attempt to throw in ferael to try to hiss at the zolrath and decrease everyones heal a bit. do u happen to have ezio btw, ezio can kill zolrath while he is hiding inside his portal