#lineup-help

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fallow ruin
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Yeah I was aiming for daimon, saved up a bit for a pull session after this event & hopefully can get him to M+

lean kindle
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Guys what are the best team for daimon here

pearl zinc
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@lean kindle just throw some tanks and cc around him to keep the enemy occupied while he gets rolling

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Oden, hogan, Tasi all good options

lean kindle
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Oh i see thanks mate

blissful sequoia
maiden marsh
blissful sequoia
jagged pike
jagged pike
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Tasi doesn't sleep anyone
When lucius dies belinda dies
Even if belinda ults she ults at skreg which does close to nothing or brutus at that point he has that barrier

mild geyser
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anyone got a 30-60 ss without saf or ainz <300?

fossil solar
dull vale
pale kettle
tulip phoenix
# lofty cairn

Try swapping thoran with talene, and then thoran with rowan. Put dura’s call on rowan

mint nimbus
crystal osprey
arctic flax
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...

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@mint nimbus i would say wukong or rowan

worthy steeple
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I'm about to fucking kill someone

arctic flax
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u have 3 elites in...

worthy steeple
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I got +20 daimon, and it still does nothing against Ulmus

arctic flax
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U have 3 elites in.

worthy steeple
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I tried with my mythics, it still did nothing

arctic flax
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Start making a front line

worthy steeple
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With what?

arctic flax
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U have only backline units upgraded

worthy steeple
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I dont have any copys

arctic flax
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Then wait for them.

worthy steeple
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So i'm stuck... god, i hate people sometime

dark socket
worthy steeple
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I was told daimon would carry at +20... i wasnt told that Ulmus is fucking god

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I'm sorry... I'm just kind of ticked right now

warm nimbus
pale monolith
terse cliff
leaden spruce
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hello I am just new and are there specific roles appropriate for a row?

fossil mantle
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Why is mortis good for guild bosses.. and will the furrent guild boss meta be nerfed?

drowsy gazelle
worthy steeple
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No, i had to 2 carry the damn tree

pale kettle
worthy steeple
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I fucking hate Ulmus with all my heart now

daring mica
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Morning all
Sb have a 5 team lineup for championship?

drowsy gazelle
pale kettle
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I hate Thane and Ulmus

drowsy gazelle
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Tasi cc, ulmus heals, nemora heals. Full health+extra shield(nemora ult). Its nightmare

pale kettle
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3 Nara and 2 Wareks

worthy steeple
drowsy gazelle
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Those only appears in towers thankfully

pale kettle
drowsy gazelle
worthy steeple
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I need fereal, but of course my rng wont give him to me now

drowsy gazelle
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Lucius, numisu, nemora, ulmus, those are stages daimon would struggle at

worthy steeple
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Hes been doing fine against evwry healer but fucking ulmus

drowsy gazelle
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Yeah ulmus is god at healing lol. You literally cant kill him fast enuf

pale kettle
drowsy gazelle
pale kettle
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Tried it 💔Thane is painful

drowsy gazelle
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Could rowan ult?

pale kettle
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Yup, but Tasi cant put them on sleep

drowsy gazelle
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Try changing places of tasi with joker

drowsy gazelle
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Try,
Grez

brutus
Rowan
joker
Tasi
As long as grez can survive, he can half thane's dmg

blazing grail
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or it it worth to hold off until i can get daimon bigger?

rain vigil
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Hey there i have a Problem with my line uo... I always löst the fight

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Can I post a screen?

pale kettle
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Maybe Tasi instead Nemora and hook Ferael with Nara?

shut sentinel
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Hello i just started the game and id like to ask what team and wishlist i should use for chapter clearing for now

orchid cypress
crystal osprey
rain vigil
fallow ruin
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Also just got another copy of Shamira, so that gets her to asended

hidden cobalt
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Nvm got it

misty wave
stuck ingot
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Need a good line up for 10-28

summer cedar
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@fallow ruin @misty wave @stuck ingot @shut sentinel check out the pins in #classic-questions

low apex
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good till 160 then you can start questioning your lineup

summer cedar
hidden cobalt
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Iv tried that one before how would u suggest the lineup of 1-5

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(Also waiting 12 more days or whatever for queen pickup)

summer cedar
hidden cobalt
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I’m preying I get another tasi so I can L+ her then I can get crystal over 160 but u know easier said then done

summer cedar
hidden cobalt
summer cedar
hidden cobalt
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In that order ?

summer cedar
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yeah that's 1-5

hidden cobalt
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Mirel gets Insta zapped down by Belinda

maiden marsh
summer cedar
dark socket
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@maiden marsh i swapped it with rowan but still no chance

summer cedar
maiden marsh
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Yeah she's outside the circle in the ss

summer cedar
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backline lucius is also borderline useless. u have 2 "tanks" alrdy. maybe fawkes instead

dark socket
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Rowan gets insta by silvina

summer cedar
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doesn't matter so long as he still sets up stall

maiden marsh
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That's good, he's taking the hit for shem

hidden cobalt
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I got it with this team cause nemora got double heal off one before their mirel ult (put my team low) and thanks to rosa one after so back up to full

dark socket
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Nothing works..

hidden cobalt
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Is there ever a point u can buy mythic gear with gold (I presume not)

dark socket
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Im capped dust and I cant get higher levels for now..

maiden marsh
summer cedar
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those are artifacts. if there's a slash, pick one

dark socket
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I still dont understand sorry..😅 🤣

maiden marsh
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Give brutus chalize, lucius chalice, shem call, rowan call, lyca eye would be an example here

summer cedar
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brutus gets chalice
lucius chalice/call
shem blade/call
rowan chalice/call
lyca eye

dark socket
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Still nothing

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Never mind.. ill merch tomorrow and get it

frank dew
bleak hawk
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Anyone got a pic of 26-48 daimon?

maiden marsh
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One sec

autumn pulsar
summer cedar
sage harbor
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I have Daimon (M) and Rowan (M) as my two highest level heroes in early game. I'm looking to take one of my Maulers to M as well. Safiya, Skreg, or Skriath? I have 4 copies of each.

night dragon
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Can someone help me make a team I’m still semi new and suck at making teams

maiden marsh
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Gonna need the box to make a team

night dragon
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Okay one second

maiden marsh
night dragon
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Okay ty @maiden marsh

foggy grove
pale kettle
simple patrol
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Guys which is the best lineup in chapter 15?

pale kettle
bright sigil
crystal osprey
placid saddle
maiden marsh
summer cedar
summer cedar
bright sigil
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i got it

sour burrow
sour burrow
buoyant gust
sour burrow
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Put lucius behind and saveas in front

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Also put brutus in front of hogan

buoyant gust
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k

sour burrow
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Yep , like this

buoyant gust
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is this right?

sour burrow
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Yea

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It should works so Lucius can recharge his Ult without dying

buoyant gust
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saveas, satrana, and brutus all die instantly

summer cedar
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i really don't think that team will work. there's no real carry. post your full box probably need some subs

sour burrow
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Yeah post your heroes

summer cedar
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optimally u want a high dps carry that is 20-40 lvls above everyone else. so post your full box and let's try to budget that

buoyant gust
summer cedar
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I'd reset satrana and saveas first off. and put those rss into mirael and silvina. this will push ur crystal to 160

buoyant gust
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ok

sour burrow
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Okay I gotta say you gonna have your first A early and that's cool , also try silivana coz she can kill mirael easily

summer cedar
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get mirael to 160 and use her as carry for now. do u have rowan?

buoyant gust
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not sure, i’ll check

sour burrow
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E rowan might not work

buoyant gust
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yes, only elite th

summer cedar
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E rowan works fine. just there for the stall

sour burrow
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You better aim for L , he's legit

summer cedar
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u don't aim anyone for L. that's bad advice you'll get fodder locked

buoyant gust
summer cedar
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your team will be something like
brutus lucius [mirael rowan] lyca. swap mirael and rowan as needed.

buoyant gust
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gotcha, thank you so much

summer cedar
buoyant gust
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wait, do i use Rowan or Silvina

summer cedar
buoyant gust
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level up Silvina, but use rowan

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got it

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@summer cedar thanks for the help but i think i’m just gonna have to grind more, rowan, mirael, and brutus all basically insta

summer cedar
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brutus by definition can't insta-die. what are their levels?
u rly want brutus to be 141 if possible.

buoyant gust
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only had 19m so i couldn’t get silvina to 160 yet, that might be part of why

summer cedar
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a little more specific. what are the levels of the team i sent you?

buoyant gust
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180, 160, 160, 140, 128

summer cedar
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who is who? there are certain levels that are significant breakpoints is why I'm asking

buoyant gust
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lucius 180, lyca 160, mirael 160, brutus 140, rowan 128

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lucius has basically carried me through the past few chapters he’s so good on god

summer cedar
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maybe reset lyca a bit then. brutus needs his skill upgrade from lvl 141. lyca losing a level or three is less impactful.

buoyant gust
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ok

summer cedar
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did u place them in the right order?

buoyant gust
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ok

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lyca is now 140, brutus 141, silvina 140, mirael, 160, lucius 180

summer cedar
icy parcel
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Oh lol, my bad wrong channel 😂

mild geyser
buoyant gust
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hey @summer cedar thank you so much i beat the stage using the team you suggested

summer cedar
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👍 glad to help

jade prism
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Stuck at 12-24. Please help if you can!

pale kettle
fierce verge
twin dove
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Get rowan sig +30

mild geyser
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nah ferael is pretty important for that stage. He prevents saf from casting static field, numisu from oneshotting you, and ezizh from locking you out

fierce verge
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Ok will do but other than that what should i character should i start looking for

maiden marsh
fierce verge
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Alright so rowan and daimon first thanks guys

rain quarry
twin dove
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Eironn

rain quarry
maiden marsh
lime quiver
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Don't stall for gear, if you're gonna do it better of doing it on chapter 26 for the t2 stones

summer cedar
# lofty cairn

maybe brutus instead of talene and arden/lyca/rosa instead of daimon

plain venture
fossil acorn
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Lucius, daimon, nara, shemira, rosaline maby. But I'd make sure my carry would be the higest Lv, not my tank

merry thunder
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@summer cedar I’m doing this stage according to your lineup, should I change my artifacts around?

summer cedar
merry thunder
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@summer cedar ok yes that definitely is a noticeable improvement, tasi gets her ult off once. Guess it’s time to just keep retrying the stage 😂

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Don’t we all just hate tasi stages 😔

plain venture
merry thunder
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@plain venture try Lucius, Wukong, Daimon, Nara, Rosaline

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I’d also reccomend resetting your Lucius and making Daimon 140

plain venture
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Lucius is my main man

merry thunder
plain venture
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Ok den

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I’ll just put luc in my array

merry thunder
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Focus on getting Daimon to 141

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I think you should be able to do that now, not sure how much dust you have

fossil acorn
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He got me to C16 without problem and I'm still using him daily

plain venture
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It worked thx

merry thunder
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@plain venture perfect! Keep getting that Daimon up and you should see decent progress

plain venture
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I got plenty of dust

fossil acorn
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Hey raylan got any tips for me :) while your at it :D

merry thunder
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Show me your box @fossil acorn

proud mantle
fossil acorn
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I think my biggest issue is lacking rowan, so far joker, Rosa, nara, Brutus, fawkes got me pretty far, but now I'm starting to struggle hard

merry thunder
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@fossil acorn have you stargazed before?

fossil acorn
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Yes today for the first time got 2 copy's of twins from it

fossil acorn
merry thunder
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Ya concentrate on using faction scrolls on light bearers, also whenever it gives you the hero choice card do lightbearers. Shemira and Belinda are both carries since you have some gems, reset Belinda and make Shem 180, then use her and Joker at the same time

fossil acorn
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Mmh

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Won't I need mythic. Shemira to get to 180?

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Ain't she is capped @160 @Legend+

merry thunder
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Ahh drats I forgot about that

proud mantle
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loool

merry thunder
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Make your Brutus Mythic though

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Oh ffs I saw that wrong, it’s only E+ nvm haha

fossil acorn
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Ye I'm trying to

merry thunder
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Concentrate on Rowan then at this point

fossil acorn
red fable
strange sparrow
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anybody have a wilder 375 lineup post-antandra rework?

empty ibex
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I've been stuck here for a while. Thane+ gets destroyed quickly and Kong gets to use his ultimate 30% of the time and the other 70% he dies before using it. Kong and Shemira are simply not enough to carry. Help would be much appreciated 🙏

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And yeah, i know there's a 15000 difference there, even tho I was having 0 problems on completing stages before this one. Every time I try i get defeated, but it always ends up being close

red fable
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Did you use the recent 30 scroll code

empty ibex
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30 scroll code? I think I did... Let me check real quick

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I think I did

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Oh, yeah, i remember using those scrolls

hasty merlin
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Wu and shemira look like they’re competing for carry. Put all levels into woo right now since he’ll be better than shem for a while

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It could also be bad rng if battles are close

empty ibex
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Should I change Thane+ for a tank? He's being doing really good everywhere, but this time he gets obliterated way to fast

candid chasm
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Someone can tell me what should i change for clearing this stage ?

red fable
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Use tasi instead of rosaline

candid chasm
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i still get wiped @red fable 😟

red fable
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Idk then

candid chasm
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maybe it's a gear's problem 🤔 ?

red fable
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Is wu kong dealing any damage

candid chasm
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no 😢

red fable
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Then replace wu with silvina

merry thunder
merry thunder
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@wintry sierra what stage is that

wintry sierra
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@merry thunder 24-58 it is

merry thunder
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How close do you get with it @wintry sierra

wintry sierra
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not so far

merry thunder
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Replace Nara with tasi

wintry sierra
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all ddie in 16 s

merry thunder
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Lmk how that goes

wintry sierra
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i also tried tasi but thoran throws the thing on her and she dies behind raine

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and thaats a defeat

merry thunder
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Do you have a Brutus?

wintry sierra
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Yes

merry thunder
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Ik assuming thane kills your Shem really fast?

empty ibex
wintry sierra
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yup, she gets to use her ulti when lucius is behind her but still dies

merry thunder
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Try putting Brutus infront of thane and Shem behind him

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Lmk if that’s any better

merry thunder
wintry sierra
merry thunder
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I’d recommend resetting Lucius or your mauler to 140 and making Shem 161 if you have the dust for it

wintry sierra
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Oh i made it

merry thunder
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You beat it? Great! What comp @wintry sierra

wintry sierra
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I used talene in front of shem

merry thunder
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@wintry sierra definetly start concentrating on Belinda or Shem making one of them 161

empty ibex
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@merry thunder I tried swapping Rosaline for Fawkes and lost because of timeout

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Without timeout i would have won

merry thunder
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You want your carry to always be the next level up

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@empty ibex show me the lineup?

wintry sierra
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I mean, the crystal lvls up everyone instantly

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If this is what youre talking about

merry thunder
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Oh U are past 240 😂 I didn’t notice I got your levels messed up with someone else’s post

sacred drift
merry thunder
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@sacred drift Rowan, lyca, Daimon, einron, tasi

empty ibex
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I did it @merry thunder. Thank you for helping me out :)

wintry sierra
merry thunder
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@wintry sierra swap Lucius and Shem?

wintry sierra
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Lemme try

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nope

sacred drift
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ill try that

wintry sierra
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Athalia does a sh*t ton of damage

sacred drift
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@merry thunder i was so close to winning, ima keep trying it

merry thunder
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@wintry sierra tasi swap with Lucius

pale kettle
merry thunder
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@pale kettle show me your box

pale kettle
wintry sierra
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Doesn't work, good thing tasi blocks athalia but thane is carrying after

merry thunder
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@wintry sierra put Rowan center and Brutus where he is

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His shield will hopefully buy you enough time

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@pale kettle Tasi, Rowan, Belinda, Lyca, Rosa

sacred drift
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@merry thunder their hp gets down like rlly low, but then nemora just... heals...

wintry sierra
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Alright

merry thunder
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@sacred drift can you show me the formation

sacred drift
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its the same formation as above

sacred drift
wintry sierra
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@merry thunder it goes like this

merry thunder
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@wintry sierra replace atandra with tasi

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@sacred drift swap your daimon and einron, if he can drag nemora hopefully she dies before heal

red fable
sacred drift
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OH nvm i beat it @merry thunder used same formaation

wintry sierra
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It gives me some time but still comes to a defeat

sacred drift
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bro thank you so much

merry thunder
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No problem!

wintry sierra
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I guess ill just wait for friend heroes because its impossible for me lol

merry thunder
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@sacred drift I still use that formation at chapter 35 lol

merry thunder
wintry sierra
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sure, add me 20574053

sacred drift
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anyways ima try to ascend my eirron so i can start using him as a carry

merry thunder
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@sacred drift einron and daimon should be your focus

sacred drift
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yah

merry thunder
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@wintry sierra added you

pale kettle
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@merry thunder that line up only kills one enemy before my defeat

wintry sierra
sacred drift
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10 minutes

pale kettle
serene tulip
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Have you tried tasi in the middle yet? You could also bring Eironn where tasi is to pull in safiya

pale kettle
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Sec just lost my farael merc to daily reset. Getting a 5 star one

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Athalia melts tasi immediately

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Nvm needed good RNG. Ty sir.

autumn totem
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I asked before about optimal soren setup, but whats the optimal wrizz setup?

fossil solar
valid quail
limber lichen
rocky crescent
rocky crescent
empty ibex
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I need help with this one. Thane+ is deleted from existence the moment he faces Brutus, Rowan and Rosaline give Kong enough time to build his ultimate but it's simply not enough. I had two fights where Shemira and Saveas were the only heroes alive, but then Saveas gives himself haste and survives REALLY low on hp.

What can I do?

eager echo
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anyone got a Mortas i can Mercenary? i see him on leaderboards all the time and i wanna c how he does with what i got

granite harness
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Should this be okay for going through most of 15? Or should I switch the positions/change out stuff. Can add Lyca in if needed and I have Nara in my pocket for a tech pick if I get any assassins

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Obviously need to get everyone to 141 still

eager echo
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what u got looks decently built for where u are, tho im not sure if u are asking for general advice or this stage specificaly

summer cedar
eager echo
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did not see that channel existed, tnx

granite harness
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General advice, I know i'll need some swaps for specific stages. Especially if i'm trying to keep Rowan alive against someone like Silvina (not sure if she's in ch15)

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Would love to replace Arden with Tasi soonish but still lagging behind on copies, need one more for M

summer cedar
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I'd argue arden 141-160 actually outperforms tasi

eager echo
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true

granite harness
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that so? i'll save it until he starts lagging behind more then

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mainly just been getting clapped whenever theres one of those hypogean mages or whatever, always interrupts him

summer cedar
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if u have a brutus then that won't happen before he roots.

granite harness
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Just got him from the last chapter clear, but not sure if he's useful at E

eager echo
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brutus is mainly used for his invincibility thing, not much past that, he used to be realy good when game was new

distant plume
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most tutorials use Thoran cheese, so can't get any help there

silk drift
pale kettle
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30-10, still able to advance. In which direction should I take this account? Who should I build next? Don't keep up to date with much, I just play, but would like to go the most optimal route.

silk drift
pale kettle
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Gotcha and gotcha, my bad buddy. I actually finished misty and got my very first copy of Farael, I merc'd him and he helped me clear 29-59 lol.

silk drift
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Yeah Ferael is amazing. Definitely one of the most useful heroes

pale kettle
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He fits in my team very well. I got lucky with a lot of heroes but I only got my first copy of him today.

silk drift
pale kettle
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Gotcha. Thanks man

silk drift
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NP

mild geyser
silk drift
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She does interrupt her but dies pretty quickly 🤔 Also Daimon dies fast in frontline

mild geyser
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Nara is only there to prevent mehiras bats. If daimon dies too fast in frontline then move him

silk drift
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Ones I removed Lyca, Nara can’t interrupt Mehira in timestressedfera

charred ermine
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why not merc an athalia kHAHAsos

silk drift
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I was going to save merc for the last stage🤔 it has Athalia as well

boreal ingot
mild geyser
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Just put better boots on her

charred ermine
silk drift
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Had to give her Daimon boots to workthaneoof

wheat gate
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Completelty stuck here

silk drift
wheat gate
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Just used a merc for it

charred ermine
silk drift
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I will give it a shot. I think this one might work eventually.🤔

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Yeah both comps pretty much have the same chances. It will be RNG from now on. Thanks

naive kelp
quaint bone
maiden marsh
trail vine
summer cedar
naive kelp
summer cedar
summer cedar
boreal ingot
naive kelp
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i want to know which should be on my team

pearl zinc
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@boreal ingot looking one second

summer cedar
boreal ingot
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Too late! Used my merc and lucretia with ainz lmao

pearl zinc
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lol

summer cedar
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guess that works too. gz

boreal ingot
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Lol thanks! I was like...hmmm, wouldn't hurt to try,...

pearl zinc
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yeah luc breaks things

boreal ingot
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PLanning to build her right now. Only mythic tho

naive kelp
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yo how do i get respen

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wrong channel

silk drift
pale kettle
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This is more of a updated lineup I’m new and have no idea what I’m doing so any help here is appreciated! Played idle hero’s for a while so I’m taking some of that knowledge and hopefully incorporating that into this game

merry thunder
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@summer cedar if you had a nickel for every time you’ve said that 😂

summer cedar
pale kettle
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🤷‍♂️

south gull
merry thunder
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@south gull Anything really with Ainz, Rowan, Lyca

valid pier
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Are there any variants to five pull or daimon that are particularly good as later game pvp formatting? I mostly only see then mentioned in pve discussion.

leaden spruce
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Is my team good?

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I am in early game tho

median wind
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n

viral birch
fossil acorn
worthy steeple
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@devout idol This is what I have... if you have a hero to siggest for crystal, i can tell you if I have them

half mural
placid saddle
half mural
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Somthing like
Daimon
Talene
Rowan
Tasi
Lyca

rain vigil
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Hey can somebody help me?

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Wares always kill all...

fast plume
bright sigil
sand parcel
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best squad?

stiff sandal
worthy steeple
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I have more heroes outside crystal i can add if need be.

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I'm just looking for good synergy to help me atleast not got completely floored

tawny cloud
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For 3 teams, right?

worthy steeple
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Yes, 3 teams for Challengers... crystal is 180 once martial ratings are over

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The pic is what i currently have as my three lineups

past urchin
tawny cloud
# worthy steeple

Change 3rd team to lucius brutus rosa gwyn lyca
1st team to:
Thoran Daimon Nara farael tasi would be my suggestions. rough cause right now you have very low ascensions for the most part and I'd put lucius and farael on crystal for now

worthy steeple
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So Thoran is enough for daimon?

tawny cloud
#

Once martial rating goes away the E/E+ celehypos won't do much. You can try substituting twins in for haste over nimu but they'll be super squishy.

past urchin
#

Id also move Brutus to Ainz team.
Drop Talene.
The way it is:
Talene dies - aggro reset.
Albedo moves around like she does.
And your backline gets obliterated.
You need something that will hold the line for Ainz at least till he ults.

worthy steeple
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So could I just switch butus and Talene places? Move brutus to second and talene to third?

past urchin
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Id drop her entirely.
Brutus in front of Ainz.
Albedo second front.
Drop Numisu for Ferael.
Just keep in mind that wont work when the event goes back to normal cause 180 E+ Ferael is practically useless.

worthy steeple
#

So wait, now I'm confuses who goes where, I was told fereal goes woth Daimon. Who do I use instead of talene?

past urchin
#

Oh.
Yeah thats cool too.
He can stick with Daimon.

worthy steeple
#

so if not Talene, who could be better?

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Due to not having any frontline heroes built other than Albedo

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and she's only plus 10. Holding off so I can build Daimon when he gets mythic

past urchin
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Dont worry about the 3rd team.
Make 2 really strong ones.
As strong as you can.
You only need to win 2 out of 3 fights.

On offence.
Move the team around so your weakest is against their strongest.
On defence
They will likely do the same so you will get clapped anyway :)
Sorry but thats how PvP works.

worthy steeple
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So on the two teams, Ains and Daimon, do they look good as can be? Do i need to switch someone around or add sombody to crystal?

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I could try doing some comps, and see how those go

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Honestly, I just want to stay where I am so I can finish returning the flowers i was given

past urchin
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Lyca for Nara in Daimon team.
You want the haste.
You want fast banish and Ferael fear.

worthy steeple
#

I have most of the heroes I need... just missing the hypogeans like mezoth and others like Eironn and Arthur. I'm currently halfway with arthur shards

zinc steeple
#

How to beat this stage i am stuck more then a 4 days on without using merc yet?

past urchin
#

And I guess Talene for Numisu in Ainz team.
Talene Brutus front.
Brutus in front of Ainz
Albedo can start in the back.
She will teleport around anyway
@worthy steeple

worthy steeple
past urchin
#

Safi
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
Tasi

@zinc steeple
At least try.
One is for sure.
Eironn cant frontline this since mages cant be dodged.
Belinda will annihilate him.

worthy steeple
#

Mages cant be dodged my ass... Khaz doesnt care

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Any other tips or suggestions? Heros that might work better that you cant currently see?

rain vigil
#

Can somebody help me... I have nö Idea, how can I beat him

past urchin
#

Beat whom?

worthy steeple
#

Try moving Hendrik where Luscious is, and put Athalia instead of Wu Kong

past urchin
#

Is that Solar Plane?
@rain vigil

rain vigil
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On Hard

worthy steeple
#

Us mehira instead of wukong

past urchin
#

And I would honestly forget Baden.
The only thing Baden can kill is your fps homegalul

worthy steeple
#

Lucious instead of Baden, perhaps.

rain vigil
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XD okay.. I thought He is strong... I will test it... I do no dmg

past urchin
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He is BADen.
Somewhat good at surviving but thats about it.

worthy steeple
#

Use Mehira instead of wukong and Luscious instead of Baden

rain vigil
#

He is immun against pysical dmg

young summit
worthy steeple
#

Which is why you want mehira

karmic dune
young summit
rain vigil
#

My shemira is too weak... I will hire another one

karmic dune
#

haha I didn’t even get daimon at all till 14-20

pale monolith
karmic dune
viral birch
pale monolith
# karmic dune 1 copy

Fawkes has an ability to remove enemies temporarily from the battlefield, try using him and see if he survives to coffin Shemira

pale monolith
karmic dune
pale monolith
#

No problemo

devout needle
#

I have some good lightbearer and wilder heroes but I've been told that Shemira should be my carry. Any thoughts on what my team comp should be?

pale monolith
devout needle
pale monolith
#

Not very, my team comp dosen't even have 2 heros of the same faction and I'm doing pretty goodlaishrug elishrug

plush dawn
quaint spire
#

IMO best help w screenshot is say what is happening and who is dying first. Easier to swap replacements. Also it’s a major game skill as you go (knowing why you failed - is it impossible or rng)

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I’d maybe try swapping Lyca and daimon spots to give him more cover and Lyca has a faction advantage. If possible, make sure Silvina jumps to Rowan by being the weakest (vs ainz)

past urchin
#

All the Elite copies to Elite+
Thats safe to do.
Just be careful after that.

robust crow
past urchin
#

Dont go past E+if you dont have enough to L+ right out.
For instance.
Its perfectly safe to combine these Thorans, Isabellas and Feraels into E+ copies of themselves.
Just be careful with getting them L after that if you dont have enough to L+ them right out.
@feral radish

empty ibex
#

My best attempt the only one left was Kaz with low hp. If the RNG is good, everyone gets to use their ultimates, if not Lucius immediately goes down. What should I do?

warm swan
#

@empty ibex Only level 5 heroes. You can reset some of the heroes to lvl 1 and use the returning resources to overlevel Wukong up to 100.

empty ibex
#

Oh wow I never thought of that. Let me try

untold flint
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Cant even knock out one before my entire team is slaughtered. Might just be a wait and hope to either level up enough to brute force it or just wait for luck on drawing heroes for ascending

past urchin
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Rosaline, Nara, Rowan.
Same story.
E+ them.
Its totally safe.
@feral radish

warm swan
#

@empty ibex remind me again because I forgot already. Does 4 of your heroes have to be lvl 80 in order to bring the 5th one to 100?

sour knoll
empty ibex
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If only dodge RNG wasn't so rough

empty ibex
warm swan
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@sour knoll try Rowan, Lyca, Tasi, Eironn, Fera. Or some variation of it. Chalice, blade, call, call, eye respectively.

@empty ibex you ever only need to lvl 5 heroes. The rest that you use can go to the crystal slots. Might I suggest also going through the pins on #classic-questions

empty ibex
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I did it, thank you for the help @warm swan

warm swan
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Gz!

sour ledge
#

Do you think this is possible with a "couple" more retries or should I change something?

rain zinc
verbal flume
fossil solar
lilac agate
vocal kettle
woven lagoon
#

Nemora out for Daimon

boreal ingot
hallow kettle
#

So how to bust past tower 404. I think i am underleveled for the job. Lucretia didn't work, and i don't think thoran comp is possible due to enemy thoran

sour knoll
upper depot
#

hi guys im stuck at 25-22 for weeks now any tips?

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28-22* and im f2p btw

grim bolt
boreal ingot
dark socket
#

@upper depot and the stage ss? 🙂

subtle inlet
placid saddle
summer cedar
summer cedar
proud edge
proud edge
modern shell
pale kettle
#

Too early to tell, but I already answered you xD

vocal kettle
pale kettle
#

Daimon, Pipa, Tasi, Izold and Saurus

vocal kettle
pale kettle
#

You hava Nara to pull goatman?

vocal kettle
#

I made it🙂

pale kettle
#

How you people go against those without Nara and Tasi? xd

low apex
#

Any recommendations for this? Maybe I’m not using the right artifacts

woven lagoon
#

I'd swap Tasi and Rowan, and swap Eironn out for a Talene or Brutus for more stall

violet acorn
vocal kettle
mild geyser
low apex
low apex
mild geyser
#

oof i five pull cheesed it

woven lagoon
pale kettle
#

E+ Brutus will forever work xd

low apex
woven lagoon
#

Should do, else it's a lot of invest to get his +20 skREEEEEEE

mild geyser
#

i default to cheese and if i cant i use daimon or something kHAHAsos

woven lagoon
#

Meta comps that's been best for me with Daimon is Talene/Tasi/Ferael/Rowan/Daimon

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Can flex in Brutus and Lyca

low apex
pale kettle
#

Belinda the best mage for linking smuglucius

modern shell
foggy grove
violet acorn
#

whos the 5th?

woven lagoon
#

Any tank

hazy iron
#

nvm I beat it

low apex
mild geyser
#

congrats!

woven lagoon
#

Maybe swap Lyca for Eironn, and Lucius for Brutus to buy Shem enough time to ult

mortal coyote
#

Trying to get through ch 12, any lineup suggestions????

summer cedar
vernal gyro
summer cedar
vernal gyro
#

Okay let’s see. Thanks for your suggestion 🙂

maiden marsh
vernal gyro
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Yea tasi Rowan seems to work best here

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Thanks too 🙂

crystal trench
#

90-/+/*+

mystic dirge
maiden marsh
shrewd pawn
#

i’m currently on ch 18 ^

twin dove
warm swan
#

@shrewd pawn A core of Shem+Rosa combo with Lyca for buffs, Tasi for cc, and maybe a tank. And I know you only asked for lineup but I'd suggest you limit your ascension to 1 hero per faction so as not to spread your fodders thin

shrewd pawn
#

okay thanks i’ll try that

shut glacier
#

Both Gwynrth team and Eiron can clear the 1st one which has higher power but not the second one due to Mehira.

gentle fox
#

What do you guys think the best lineup for me would be with the elites I have? Currently struggling in ch 5

summer cedar
carmine charm
#

Can someone just circle who

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Or tell me

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Help

shut glacier
#

@summer cedar ok thx...seems like Thoran cheese is ineffective against Mehira. 😫

carmine charm
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@summer cedar what should my team be

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Or @warm swan

summer cedar
warm swan
#

@shut glacier cheesed that one. Had 9 lvls above you tho so I'm not sure.

@carmine charm what Bob said. Can't go wrong with a carry Wukong that early

shut glacier
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@summer cedar thx a lot , I will try tomorrow 😋

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@warm swan yeah, I will cheese as per esergio but must be tomorrow. Today feel too tried

pale kettle
#

This stage is hell on earth please help :)

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Nvm got full crits

shut glacier
muted stream
shut glacier
#

I made it
Thx a lot ☺️

drowsy gazelle
proper orchid
marsh nymph
rapid path
boreal ingot
#

Does daimon work better in ainz comp or fereal?

I'm thinking of:

Team 1: replace mehira with Tasi

Team 2: replace Tasi with Skriath and fereal with tidus

Team 3: replace daimon with fereal

Good changes or bad?

worthy steeple
#

Why two carrys in one team?

boreal ingot
worthy steeple
#

Ains and Daimon

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Why in the same team?

boreal ingot
#

From what I've seen it's a pvp comp I saw used in HoE

maiden marsh
#

I'm thinking put saurus with god comp, talene with dimensionals and change the eironn comp to a more budget burst variant with gwyn. Absolute nonexpert opinion

boreal ingot
summer cedar
#

my assumption for ainz+daimon+ezio is
ainz knocks off 50% current hp. then ults. daimon then removes 26% of max hp from 3 enemies. then ezio executes below 27%. that's some damn good synergy.
granted I suck at pvp. I'm just speaking on how the synergy/reasoning might work

maiden marsh
#

Without 9/9 ainz is unlikely to do goal of all life in any meaningful time

maiden marsh
mild geyser
#

You don’t need to wait for 15 seconds if the first ainz ult one shots you hoganLUL

drowsy gazelle
mild geyser
#

9/9 ainz gwynhands

maiden marsh
#

😩 now i wanna finish 29 even more

boreal ingot
drowsy gazelle
maiden marsh
#

Well will you look at me, here at 271

drowsy gazelle
#

I cleared it at lvl272. But i do have ainz, so

maiden marsh
#

I also have ainz 🤷‍♂️ no arthur doe so sad times

warm swan
#

Smh you guys should take a break and stop pushing. It pressures me.

summer cedar
#

push and stop pinging me mezothgun

maiden marsh
#

More people using daimon need to post to the website for 29, thinking for myself is hard

drowsy gazelle
summer cedar
viral pebble
#

any good comps i can make?

summer cedar
viral pebble
#

ok

nimble hound
summer cedar
#

rowan position 4. play around with the rest, probably lucius/talene frontline. saveas shud be really high lvl, higher than ev1 else, but sounds good

hoary sierra
#

Can I get a top 10 list of heroes to try and get that will be viable from start to end?

#

I'm just starting game

maiden marsh
hoary sierra
#

This is what I'm working with for now. From what I've seen/read Thoran will be an ok choice for now?

summer cedar
nimble hound
summer cedar
#

saveas is the damage dealer here and he vastly outperforms ferael in that regard. fera is good for cc but he really only gets strong later in the game, lvl 221

summer cedar
nimble hound
summer cedar
#

👍

pale monolith
# lofty cairn

Thoran, Daimon - Front row;
Rosaline, Mirael, Rowan - Back row;

bitter cloak
lone grail
fallow ruin
fossil acorn
#

Eiron won't be of use either he just gets 1 shot if he pulls in the enemy's, even tho he is mythic geared

pale kettle
#

Tried using Tasi to make them all sleep? If she can survive

vagrant olive
mild flame
#

Could someone give me some advice?

vagrant olive
#

to which question ?

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tried replacing talene with daimon ?

pale kettle
#

Or with Lyca for haste

vagrant olive
#

yeah building lyca's SI gives you per 5 points extra haste

pale kettle
#

Or someone that can cc enemy carry (Nara, Tasi, Fawkes)

random sonnet
#

I cant beat the ancient ruins
are my guys just too low level rn or is my team just bad

I can beat this fight but i get wiped on all the other ones

pale kettle
#

Leveling Golus instead Lucius is your biggest mistake, also use Fawkes instead Mehira

random sonnet
#

enemy level is 117 in this fight and lucius still dies before he can ult lol
i was told to level my l+ instead of mythics for now

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should i spend 20 diamond to swap lucius and golus

pale kettle
#

Because is lvl 123 and not 160

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Tbh I never used Saveas as carry cause his limit is 160, but carry should be 20-40 levels above others which is not possible here

low bridge
pale monolith
random sonnet
pale monolith
# random sonnet

I'd go with Lucius, Golus - Front; (Except for Lucius you don't really have any good tanks), Belinda, Rowan, Saveas - Back;

pale kettle
#

Someone suggested him to upgrade Golus... Saveas can be fine but Golus is literally useless

random sonnet
#

is taline really not good
i get her to epic+ tomorrow

pale kettle
pale monolith
pale monolith
low bridge
pale kettle
#

Send me heroes in private, slowmode is annoying xd

#

I'm decidedly overwhelmingly bad at making teams looking at my arena challenger win ratio 😩

pale monolith
pale kettle
#

oh wow just tried it on campaign and its like, perma tasi sleep lmao

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Just wait for enemy Tasi thenkHAHAsos

late escarp
pale kettle
#

yeah im glad i got tasi as one of my very first pulls in the game tasiwink

pale kettle
pale monolith
#

Im glad I got Ulmus as one of my very first pulls in the game and never used him ulmuspeepohype

#

But yeah focus on carry(Belinda) first

pale monolith
#

Belinda best carrier untill Ch20🔝

pale kettle
#

True, but I got Joker at chapter 16 vedan360

pale monolith
#

Silence P2W

pale kettle
#

I just bought him 😕

vagrant olive
#

supporting the game is always good

pale monolith
#

Im excited to get Joker next Sunday, I heard he's great and really good in Ch30,I can link him to Lyca since she's useless but Ascended 1*

pale kettle
#

I am waiting to switch Nara or Brutus with ascended Queen next week ulmuspeepohype

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Maybe Brutus cause he is leg, and Nara mythic

pale monolith
#

Brutus is really good if you are 100 lvl below the enemy because he survives the most

pale kettle
#

I can send my team here if you wanna check

pale monolith
#

Sure, just saying Brutus is good when the other heros die <10 secs

pale kettle
#

One second

sour ledge
pale monolith
pale monolith
# pale kettle

Looks good tho I'm not sure about JOKER being front row,he's not really tanky

pale kettle
#

Trust me, he survives longer than any tank at this stage

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Who should I replace with Queen? I need 1 leg+ fodder and 1 elite Nara for ascended

pale monolith
#

Still not a good idea to put him front row, he will survive more back rowlaishrug elishrug

pale kettle
#

After Queen time for daddy Arthur and Gwen

vagrant olive
#

still busy with ainz and albedo

pale monolith
#

Gwyneth is good later-game and I say she really stars to shine after lvl 240, don't rush her

vagrant olive
#

gwyneth kinda disappoints @ chapter 33 and further though

pale kettle
pale monolith
#

I have her Ascended and don't use her but I have just tons of fodder lying around and if I have enough copies for A I'll do itelishrug laishrug

pale kettle
#

She works great with Joker

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When she gets SI to 20 so it might be worth ascending her

pale monolith
pale kettle
#

Rowan +25...

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OH yeah I almost forgot why I was really searching for a new formation in the first place lmao. Second to last fight in labyrinth floor 3 hard mode.

#

I just have those 5 cart heros but maybe they change something?

pale monolith
vernal gyro
#

Beat the stage yesterday, but this one seems to be so hard. So I’m asking for some help again 🙈

pale monolith
pale kettle
#

doesnt kill a single one of em /: i have one duras tear so yeah maybe

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oh wait what if i mirror comp them lmao

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nope lmao

zinc steeple
inland socket
#

Am I just totally outnumbered here or is this a lineup issue?

obtuse rock
#

I tried a bunch of stuff but all my mages/supports get one shot except for rowan, so my options seem limited

warm swan
#

@vernal gyro call on Eironn and Tasi?

vernal gyro
#

@warm swan Yes call on both, but the fight only lasts like 5 seconds, because all get oneshot

warm swan
#

Ow, that's rough. Was hoping Eironn can cc Mehira fast enough. Might need to use a Nara or Atha on Mehira then

vernal gyro
#

No unfortunately not. Only have Nara on E+ and no Athalia. May need wait a week for a merc

lime quiver
#

Nara just have to disrupt mehira's bats, try it with the E+ if the power cap is friendly

shut glacier
vernal gyro
#

Just beat it with. Rowan, Daimon, Safiya, Eironn, Tasi on 252

#

Thanks guys 🙂

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@shut glacier Yea already used this site, it’s very helpful

drowsy gazelle
#

He alrd cleared it dint he

vernal gyro
#

Yea I cleared it 🙂 Thanks for the help

split peak
hoary sierra
fleet terrace
#

Anyone got an artifact guide?

pale monolith
drowsy mist
#

Deem theis please is dead

warm swan
#

If you could just refer to the pinned guide on #classic-questions , many of your questions will be answered.

drowsy mist
summer cedar
fickle dove
summer cedar
#

Who does fawkes coffin?

fickle dove
#

Khasos

#

At that point mirael switches to the golus which then ends up with morvus and enemy mirael destroying everything lol

summer cedar
#

I'd swap fawkes for either lyca or arden maybe. If not could always afk

fickle dove
#

I feel like I'm really on the cusp of being a able to push my crystal higher, just gotta get a few more blue heroes

summer cedar
#

If rosa does not ult she's kinda useless, so then swap her out for lyca/arden as well

fickle dove
#

Yeah she usually just dies pretty quickly

summer cedar
#

Yeah that's what I suspected. Lyca can die early but she provides a team wide buff which rosa doesn't. And Arden's cc helpa mira survive

fickle dove
#

I swapped out Rosa for arden and I'm already seeing better results, I'm losing still but when I can put lyca in my crystal (no slots) and swap her for fawkes I should see a clear

idle marlin
fickle dove
#

Thanks a lot Bob 😀

summer cedar
#

👍

summer cedar
idle marlin
#

I have a brutus and she walks towards talene

solar kettle
summer cedar
#

Try brutus talene lyca rowan ainz then. Who does tasi banish?

leaden spruce
#

Guys any good substitutes for Lucius?

idle marlin
#

I've been trying for days but now when I look for help it suddenly works

solar kettle
#

Can anyone help me with 20-37

stiff sandal
summer cedar
stiff sandal
#

Never mind then

solar kettle
summer cedar
inland socket
empty ibex
#

The main problem here is Saveas, critical RNG helps him destroy whoever is on his lane, Brutus is kind of an issue as well but only when he spins around. The closes I've been is leaving Saveas alive with a quarter hp... What should I do?

summer cedar
empty ibex
warm swan
silent forge
#

Need help deciding if I should get Queen and Joker...

empty ibex
#

I focused too much in leveling up for the crystal :/. I got Kong to 87 and made it through the level easily

maiden marsh
plain venture
#

And unfortunately i can’t use mercs

summer cedar
plain venture
#

I have

fossil acorn
sly cave
#

Hey guys need help with mercenary . Can anyone help .

raw niche
modern nacelle
fossil solar
#

@raw niche I would pull saf. Also I would switch out Brutus and throw tasi in your lineup.

clever pine
vocal kettle
proud edge
proud edge
# clever pine What would you recommend for pve?

Read the pins. You've wasted a lot of fodder getting people to L without being able to take them to L+ and its slowing you down. Until 160 Mirael or saveas are your best carry options. After that daimon

proud edge
proud edge
proud edge
clever pine
raw niche
proud edge
proud edge
raw niche
#

I have e+ lorsan already, but he's weak and gets oneshot by anything really. Hell even Brutus looking at him and he's like 😵

#

Same thing with Fawkes, I can barely rely on Nara for one pull and bam oneshotted

proud edge
raw niche
#

No idea what the link does. I never used him

proud edge
#

The link makes 2 unites share damage. Basically you can link him to a weak unit and he takes all the damage the weak one does too, completely ignoring his damage reduction passive, making him way easier to kill

icy parcel
#

Any ideas for this stage? There's too much crowd control, if Lucius triggers shields no way to kill, if nemora triggers heal shields also come so doom as well, if Seirus ults I get washed away and stunned, and on top of that Nemisu totems distract or kill someone at random

pale kettle
pale kettle
fluid halo
pale kettle
#

Nara instead Talene to hook Vurk, Lucius front bottom maybe? And Theowyn front

fluid halo
icy parcel
raw niche
proud edge
fluid halo
raw niche
#

I just unlocked the first trials of God and it's kicking my arse xD

proud edge
#

check the guides channel. +30 saurus makes ToG way easier.

pale kettle
fluid halo
pale kettle
#

My formation for last level

fluid halo
#

Ah lmao

pale kettle
#

Who does Tasi banish?

fluid halo
#

Dunno

raw niche
#

I don't even have L+ saurus :/, I completely ignored him. Prio was lyca and Eironn now I'm building tasi. I thought saurus was like for bosses only, so I can Merc him. Fuck.

pale kettle
raw niche
#

With this halfass Daimon comp it's a bit hard with those debuffs

pale kettle
#

Me stuck at 22-60 zaphtears

raw niche
sand parcel
pale kettle
sand parcel
#

wow that worked so well thanks bro

#

are there any other character i have that would be worth switching out, they'd be leveld afterwards of course

pale kettle
#

Fawkes/Nara is pretty good for CC , Eironn as carry and Shemira ealry carry

gritty lagoon
#

Any help on this one please

proud edge
fluid halo
#

Found it, muriel

pale kettle
#

Tasi is stupid sometimes, but op if pulls ult so keep trying with different position for her

worthy steeple
pale kettle
#

Nemora charms Daimon?

worthy steeple
#

No, Tree fucking floors daimon. Nemora is not the problem

#

And estrilda always attacks brutus

pale kettle
#

You need some high burst against that tree, mostly glass cannon mages

worthy steeple
#

I have no burst

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Safiya?

pale kettle
#

That will be bad for you then 😕

worthy steeple
#

Could i try bursting with safiya?

pale kettle
#

Of course

mild geyser
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@proud edge tbh i think its way too hard to cheese r1. You gotta get numisu to not totem thoran, thoran to survive and ult on his first life, and you gotta get him to not oneshot everyone on his first ult or else he wont be able to take out brutus on his second life

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ive gotten close but its always brutus vs thoran and thoran doesnt dish out enough damage

proud edge
mild geyser
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whats your eironn saf comp? I can beat r2 pretty easily but r1 sucks

proud edge
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for r2 I cna do eironn, saf, tasi and two random filler with no gear and its like 95% win rate at rc301. Working on that comp for r1 though.

mild geyser
fluid halo
silk drift
silk drift
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damn announcementskHAHAsos 29-15

narrow lark
maiden marsh
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@wispy tartan my krabby patty recipe for mehira stages: the 5 pull into daimon and literally just powering through the bats because daimon is a monster

wispy tartan
maiden marsh
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I've actually used it probably 30+ times in the last few chapters. Something about it just clicks

wispy tartan
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without +30 eironn you might need that extra damage anyway

maiden marsh
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Yeah eironn literally just pulls here, he never ever ults. No one ults except daimon actually lol

vital tangle
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Hey guys

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Can you help me with my team and suggest me which heroes should I upgrade ?

maiden marsh
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Since it's super earlygame the guides pinned in #classic-questions will have more information than we can reasonable relay to you. I can say to stop making L heroes right now though.

vital tangle
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And what do you suggest me to do

maiden marsh
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Build fodder to 160 and amass copies to hopefully waste less fodder in the future. All this is explained in the beginner's guide.

plain venture
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So basically just max out your hero count then lvl fodder to get more space then do it again till we have 8 copies?

worthy steeple
pale kettle
maiden marsh
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@wispy tartan last one I'll need from you but you wouldn't happen to have 29-59? 🥺👉👈 or anyone really lol

mild geyser
wispy tartan
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I only save boss stages or very tough ones but I prob used something similar

maiden marsh
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Thanks guys, I'll give it a shot

wispy tartan
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actually looking at it I'm 99% sure I used classic 5 pull

maiden marsh
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I really want to use this team but the game said no unfortunately

fossil solar
worthy steeple
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Nothing i try works... I think i'm just stuck until i can +30 rowan

mild geyser
fossil solar
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Thoran or lucretia?

mild geyser
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thoran

fossil solar
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Lol ok

proud edge
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@mild geyser got this working for 2, need to set one now

mild geyser
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tasi and anatandra gwynhands

proud edge
full merlin
proud edge
mild geyser
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did your ezizh do anything besides pull numisu?

full merlin
mild geyser
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occasionally my ezizh has survived but idk if its important

proud edge
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Nope. He had literally just the zero star tidebearer artifact and no other gear

mild geyser
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thanks ill give it a shot. sadly my saf is only +20 so i think it will require more retries

proud edge
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Yeah it might, but having gear should offset the +30 I think