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@lean kindle just throw some tanks and cc around him to keep the enemy occupied while he gets rolling
Oden, hogan, Tasi all good options
Oh i see thanks mate
Any suggestions here? The Athalia and Silvina combo has had me stumped for 2 weeks.
perhaps try shemira, thoran, rowan, lyca, tasi and hope for lyca dodges
Holy crap, took 5 rerolls but it worked. Thank you so much!
ive been stuck on this for a few days
Love to hear it
Tasi doesn't sleep anyone
When lucius dies belinda dies
Even if belinda ults she ults at skreg which does close to nothing or brutus at that point he has that barrier
anyone got a 30-60 ss without saf or ainz <300?
Any help please
Can anyone give me some guidance. I want to make sure I’m not going in the wrong direction with my heroes
how do i beat? please don’t say Arden - he doesn’t work any better
Try swapping thoran with talene, and then thoran with rowan. Put dura’s call on rowan
Who should I get from the talene hearts desires thign
I'm about to fucking kill someone
Can someone pls explain how everyone is unkillable?
u have 3 elites in...
I got +20 daimon, and it still does nothing against Ulmus
U have 3 elites in.
I tried with my mythics, it still did nothing
Start making a front line
With what?
U have only backline units upgraded
I dont have any copys
Then wait for them.
So i'm stuck... god, i hate people sometime
Hello. Help please .. with this formation i killed almost all it was shemira Vs shemira and i lost
I was told daimon would carry at +20... i wasnt told that Ulmus is fucking god
I'm sorry... I'm just kind of ticked right now
Hey need help with finding the best formation
Hogan, Estreldia - Front row;
Numisu, Mirael, Silas - Back Row;
hello I am just new and are there specific roles appropriate for a row?
Why is mortis good for guild bosses.. and will the furrent guild boss meta be nerfed?
Are you still stuck here?
No, i had to 2 carry the damn tree
Lol 😂
I fucking hate Ulmus with all my heart now
Morning all
Sb have a 5 team lineup for championship?
Oh i know ur feelings. One of my stages where there is tasi, ulmus, nemora. I cant kill anyone at all lol
I hate Thane and Ulmus
Tasi cc, ulmus heals, nemora heals. Full health+extra shield(nemora ult). Its nightmare
Thats the stage i was on!
3 Nara and 2 Wareks
Anything better than the damn tree
Those only appears in towers thankfully
Then wait for 4 trees and Nemora 😂
Ah also, daimon is weak against hero that can heals a ton. Which is why ulmus is a really hard stage for daimon
God no
I noticed
I need fereal, but of course my rng wont give him to me now
Lucius, numisu, nemora, ulmus, those are stages daimon would struggle at
Hes been doing fine against evwry healer but fucking ulmus
Yeah ulmus is god at healing lol. You literally cant kill him fast enuf
Any ideas? Beside leveling up
I would just put grez at joker's place and joker at nara's place
Tried it 💔Thane is painful
Could rowan ult?
Yup, but Tasi cant put them on sleep
Try changing places of tasi with joker
Try,
Grez
brutus
Rowan
joker
Tasi
As long as grez can survive, he can half thane's dmg
what next? im thinking probably grezhul https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532962034787155999/810097754227343360/Screenshot_20210213-113900.jpg
or it it worth to hold off until i can get daimon bigger?
Hey there i have a Problem with my line uo... I always löst the fight
Can I post a screen?
Maybe Tasi instead Nemora and hook Ferael with Nara?
Hello i just started the game and id like to ask what team and wishlist i should use for chapter clearing for now
Im stuck any suggestions?
I will test
Saved up for a decent pull, pretty sure I was unlucky as hell.
Who should I build/focus on? Also build Shamira or wait for Daimon copies?
Stuck on 13-5
Also just got another copy of Shamira, so that gets her to asended
Ideas that giant oaf just tosses anyone around in that lane
Nvm got it
But now I’m stuck
Hey i just got back to the game after a long long time and idk which heroes to focus and which to use and which ones I should try to get
@fallow ruin @misty wave @stuck ingot @shut sentinel check out the pins in #classic-questions
you don't have a carry. try running mirael instead of tasi.
Iv tried that one before how would u suggest the lineup of 1-5
(Also waiting 12 more days or whatever for queen pickup)
id run brutus and [talene or lucius], but not both. swap one out for tasi or lyca.
I’m preying I get another tasi so I can L+ her then I can get crystal over 160 but u know easier said then done
ascension questions belong in #classic-questions
can u post your full box?
I am lestuck
try brutus lucius rowan mirael lyca/nemora/rosa. rosa only if she follows mirael otherwise scrap her
In that order ?
yeah that's 1-5
Mirel gets Insta zapped down by Belinda
Help please 🙂
For one, take call off brutus. He's just reducing shem's energy gain
if ur tanks are getting burst down, try swapping in brutus.
@maiden marsh i swapped it with rowan but still no chance
move rowan to 4 as well. shem does not receive the healing pot as it stands (I think)
Yeah she's outside the circle in the ss
backline lucius is also borderline useless. u have 2 "tanks" alrdy. maybe fawkes instead
Rowan gets insta by silvina
doesn't matter so long as he still sets up stall
That's good, he's taking the hit for shem
I got it with this team cause nemora got double heal off one before their mirel ult (put my team low) and thanks to rosa one after so back up to full
Nothing works..
Is there ever a point u can buy mythic gear with gold (I presume not)
Im capped dust and I cant get higher levels for now..
Just guild coins and diamonds
brutus lucius shem rowan lyca may work. chalice chalice/call blade/call chalice/call eye
those are artifacts. if there's a slash, pick one
I still dont understand sorry..😅 🤣
Give brutus chalize, lucius chalice, shem call, rowan call, lyca eye would be an example here
brutus gets chalice
lucius chalice/call
shem blade/call
rowan chalice/call
lyca eye
@dark socket
Anyone got a pic of 26-48 daimon?
One sec
Brutus helped but ainz still isn't able to ult, I think I'm a bit stuck for a while until I get rowan ascended
try swapping brutus and ainz to the bottom instead. estrilda may be knocking brutus into ainz and ainz is taking splash dmg
I have Daimon (M) and Rowan (M) as my two highest level heroes in early game. I'm looking to take one of my Maulers to M as well. Safiya, Skreg, or Skriath? I have 4 copies of each.
Can someone help me make a team I’m still semi new and suck at making teams
Gonna need the box to make a team
Shem and rosaline will be your core, and you can put in any mixture of brutus, tasi, rowan, arden, lyca and the like depending on the stage. Need more cc? Arden or tasi. Need protection against burst? Brutus
Okay ty @maiden marsh
Can someone help with this?
Excuse me but how is this humanly possible?
what would be the best team and charcters to focus on rn ?
Need help on the first battle of 31-60
Can someone help me create a proper beginner team?
read the pins in #classic-questions for an idea of how to play earlygame
read the pins in #classic-questions and ask them about your box.
maybe saurus thoran talene [flex] daimon?
tried a few times, not working
i got it
How can I beat safiya?
First go to rickety cart and enable auto recycle because green heroes are not useful
Second I suggest this comp
Hogan
Antandra
Lyca
Tasi
Daimon
any tips or am i screwed for right now
Yep , like this
saveas, satrana, and brutus all die instantly
i really don't think that team will work. there's no real carry. post your full box probably need some subs
Yeah post your heroes
i didn’t think so either
optimally u want a high dps carry that is 20-40 lvls above everyone else. so post your full box and let's try to budget that
I'd reset satrana and saveas first off. and put those rss into mirael and silvina. this will push ur crystal to 160
ok
Okay I gotta say you gonna have your first A early and that's cool , also try silivana coz she can kill mirael easily
get mirael to 160 and use her as carry for now. do u have rowan?
not sure, i’ll check
E rowan might not work
yes, only elite th
E rowan works fine. just there for the stall
You better aim for L , he's legit
u don't aim anyone for L. that's bad advice you'll get fodder locked
yeah i’m one elite lucius away from Ascended and three elite Lyca i think away from Ascended
your team will be something like
brutus lucius [mirael rowan] lyca. swap mirael and rowan as needed.
gotcha, thank you so much
also check out the pins in #classic-questions for general advice
wait, do i use Rowan or Silvina
How can I beat Safiya?
silvina goes in pentagram, but u put rowan in crystal and use him
level up Silvina, but use rowan
got it
@summer cedar thanks for the help but i think i’m just gonna have to grind more, rowan, mirael, and brutus all basically insta
brutus by definition can't insta-die. what are their levels?
u rly want brutus to be 141 if possible.
only had 19m so i couldn’t get silvina to 160 yet, that might be part of why
a little more specific. what are the levels of the team i sent you?
180, 160, 160, 140, 128
who is who? there are certain levels that are significant breakpoints is why I'm asking
lucius 180, lyca 160, mirael 160, brutus 140, rowan 128
lucius has basically carried me through the past few chapters he’s so good on god
maybe reset lyca a bit then. brutus needs his skill upgrade from lvl 141. lyca losing a level or three is less impactful.
ok
did u place them in the right order?
Oh lol, my bad wrong channel 😂
ferael merc makes it ez
hey @summer cedar thank you so much i beat the stage using the team you suggested
👍 glad to help
Thanks, any other suggestions to play around with while I wait on him?
What should i focus/build next?
Get rowan sig +30
nah ferael is pretty important for that stage. He prevents saf from casting static field, numisu from oneshotting you, and ezizh from locking you out
Ok will do but other than that what should i character should i start looking for
get daimon to +20 asap
Gotcha thx bud.
Alright so rowan and daimon first thanks guys
Who should i go for next
Eironn
Eironn sounds good to me heres the rest of my wilders
I dont really need much help with this stage im just stalling for gear, thought id show where im at
reset others to 200 and pump shem to 240
Don't stall for gear, if you're gonna do it better of doing it on chapter 26 for the t2 stones
maybe brutus instead of talene and arden/lyca/rosa instead of daimon
Got any tips @summer cedar
Can anyone build a winning deck out my junk pulls
Lucius, daimon, nara, shemira, rosaline maby. But I'd make sure my carry would be the higest Lv, not my tank
Because of
@summer cedar I’m doing this stage according to your lineup, should I change my artifacts around?
tasi always gets call. if ur worried ab too many calls, then rowan switches to chalice
@summer cedar ok yes that definitely is a noticeable improvement, tasi gets her ult off once. Guess it’s time to just keep retrying the stage 😂
Don’t we all just hate tasi stages 😔
Doesn’t work but I’ll try again when I level them up thanks thou
@plain venture try Lucius, Wukong, Daimon, Nara, Rosaline
I’d also reccomend resetting your Lucius and making Daimon 140
Lucius is my main man
Lucius will fall off real soon, meanwhile daimon is one of the best carries in the game
Focus on getting Daimon to 141
I think you should be able to do that now, not sure how much dust you have
Early on Brutus is a better tank then Lucius
He got me to C16 without problem and I'm still using him daily
It worked thx
@plain venture perfect! Keep getting that Daimon up and you should see decent progress
I got plenty of dust
Hey raylan got any tips for me :) while your at it :D
Show me your box @fossil acorn
I think my biggest issue is lacking rowan, so far joker, Rosa, nara, Brutus, fawkes got me pretty far, but now I'm starting to struggle hard
@fossil acorn have you stargazed before?
Yes today for the first time got 2 copy's of twins from it
Gimme plox
Ya concentrate on using faction scrolls on light bearers, also whenever it gives you the hero choice card do lightbearers. Shemira and Belinda are both carries since you have some gems, reset Belinda and make Shem 180, then use her and Joker at the same time
Mmh
Won't I need mythic. Shemira to get to 180?
Ain't she is capped @160 @Legend+
Ahh drats I forgot about that
loool
Ye I'm trying to
Concentrate on Rowan then at this point
Wish I had him 😅
I've been stuck here for a while. Thane+ gets destroyed quickly and Kong gets to use his ultimate 30% of the time and the other 70% he dies before using it. Kong and Shemira are simply not enough to carry. Help would be much appreciated 🙏
And yeah, i know there's a 15000 difference there, even tho I was having 0 problems on completing stages before this one. Every time I try i get defeated, but it always ends up being close
Did you use the recent 30 scroll code
30 scroll code? I think I did... Let me check real quick
I think I did
Oh, yeah, i remember using those scrolls
Wu and shemira look like they’re competing for carry. Put all levels into woo right now since he’ll be better than shem for a while
It could also be bad rng if battles are close
Should I change Thane+ for a tank? He's being doing really good everywhere, but this time he gets obliterated way to fast
Use tasi instead of rosaline
i still get wiped @red fable 😟
Idk then
maybe it's a gear's problem 🤔 ?
Is wu kong dealing any damage
no 😢
Then replace wu with silvina
If you use fawkes who does he coffin?
please i need help ;-;
@wintry sierra what stage is that
How close do you get with it @wintry sierra
not so far
Replace Nara with tasi
all ddie in 16 s
Lmk how that goes
i also tried tasi but thoran throws the thing on her and she dies behind raine
and thaats a defeat
Do you have a Brutus?
Yes
Ik assuming thane kills your Shem really fast?
I don't think Fawkes is going to cut it, he's still quite squishy at lv 45
yup, she gets to use her ulti when lucius is behind her but still dies
Also how are you looking dust wise?
i can record but it still doesnt work
also wdym bt dust wise
I’d recommend resetting Lucius or your mauler to 140 and making Shem 161 if you have the dust for it
Oh i made it
You beat it? Great! What comp @wintry sierra
@wintry sierra definetly start concentrating on Belinda or Shem making one of them 161
@merry thunder I tried swapping Rosaline for Fawkes and lost because of timeout
Without timeout i would have won
You want your carry to always be the next level up
@empty ibex show me the lineup?
I mean, the crystal lvls up everyone instantly
If this is what youre talking about
Oh U are past 240 😂 I didn’t notice I got your levels messed up with someone else’s post
Please end my suffering
@sacred drift Rowan, lyca, Daimon, einron, tasi
I did it @merry thunder. Thank you for helping me out :)
@wintry sierra swap Lucius and Shem?
ill try that
Athalia does a sh*t ton of damage
@merry thunder i was so close to winning, ima keep trying it
@wintry sierra tasi swap with Lucius
Help please the borrowed ones are expired
@pale kettle show me your box
Doesn't work, good thing tasi blocks athalia but thane is carrying after
@wintry sierra put Rowan center and Brutus where he is
His shield will hopefully buy you enough time
@pale kettle Tasi, Rowan, Belinda, Lyca, Rosa
@merry thunder their hp gets down like rlly low, but then nemora just... heals...
Alright
@sacred drift can you show me the formation
its the same formation as above
@merry thunder this is the enemy formation
@wintry sierra replace atandra with tasi
@sacred drift swap your daimon and einron, if he can drag nemora hopefully she dies before heal
I've been stuck on 20-26 for a couple of days now I can get close to winning but grezhul always survives
OH nvm i beat it @merry thunder used same formaation
It gives me some time but still comes to a defeat
bro thank you so much
No problem!
I guess ill just wait for friend heroes because its impossible for me lol
@sacred drift I still use that formation at chapter 35 lol
I can send you a good merc
sure, add me 20574053
oh lol
anyways ima try to ascend my eirron so i can start using him as a carry
@sacred drift einron and daimon should be your focus
yah
@wintry sierra added you
@merry thunder that line up only kills one enemy before my defeat
got it, now lets wait 20 mins
10 minutes
This stage is killin me
Have you tried tasi in the middle yet? You could also bring Eironn where tasi is to pull in safiya
Sec just lost my farael merc to daily reset. Getting a 5 star one
Athalia melts tasi immediately
Nvm needed good RNG. Ty sir.
I asked before about optimal soren setup, but whats the optimal wrizz setup?
Advice on this level please
Need help with these two levels @ me if you can help please
Stuck
Anyone have 31-46?
Thank you, interesting sight. And jeez that stage was just a rng nightmare.
I need help with this one. Thane+ is deleted from existence the moment he faces Brutus, Rowan and Rosaline give Kong enough time to build his ultimate but it's simply not enough. I had two fights where Shemira and Saveas were the only heroes alive, but then Saveas gives himself haste and survives REALLY low on hp.
What can I do?
anyone got a Mortas i can Mercenary? i see him on leaderboards all the time and i wanna c how he does with what i got
Should this be okay for going through most of 15? Or should I switch the positions/change out stuff. Can add Lyca in if needed and I have Nara in my pocket for a tech pick if I get any assassins
Obviously need to get everyone to 141 still
what u got looks decently built for where u are, tho im not sure if u are asking for general advice or this stage specificaly
looks good but i might cycle rosa arden and lyca in positions 3 and 5 depending on the stage
did not see that channel existed, tnx
General advice, I know i'll need some swaps for specific stages. Especially if i'm trying to keep Rowan alive against someone like Silvina (not sure if she's in ch15)
Would love to replace Arden with Tasi soonish but still lagging behind on copies, need one more for M
I'd argue arden 141-160 actually outperforms tasi
true
that so? i'll save it until he starts lagging behind more then
mainly just been getting clapped whenever theres one of those hypogean mages or whatever, always interrupts him
if u have a brutus then that won't happen before he roots.
Just got him from the last chapter clear, but not sure if he's useful at E
brutus is mainly used for his invincibility thing, not much past that, he used to be realy good when game was new
Is it possible to clear the first stage with Daimon or lucretia (M+)? Cleared the 2nd with green-sand-wolf, and 3rd with khazard-control.
most tutorials use Thoran cheese, so can't get any help there
Is there a better choice against Mehira?🤔
30-10, still able to advance. In which direction should I take this account? Who should I build next? Don't keep up to date with much, I just play, but would like to go the most optimal route.
I guess Ferael. And it would be better if you asked that question in #classic-questions
Gotcha and gotcha, my bad buddy. I actually finished misty and got my very first copy of Farael, I merc'd him and he helped me clear 29-59 lol.
Will delete the post and repost it in #classic-questions
Yeah Ferael is amazing. Definitely one of the most useful heroes
He fits in my team very well. I got lucky with a lot of heroes but I only got my first copy of him today.
I guess it doesn’t matter but in #classic-questions you will get responses faster 
Gotcha. Thanks man
NP
No just make sure she is fast enough to interrupt mehiras bats. As for lineup I would do
Daimon/ferael
Rowan
Eironn/daimon/ferael
Eironn/daimon
Nara
She does interrupt her but dies pretty quickly 🤔 Also Daimon dies fast in frontline
Nara is only there to prevent mehiras bats. If daimon dies too fast in frontline then move him
Ones I removed Lyca, Nara can’t interrupt Mehira in time
why not merc an athalia 
I was going to save merc for the last stage🤔 it has Athalia as well
Any suggestions here guys? I'm already using in the other teams:
Tasi, fereal, Rowan, talene, daimon, ainz, albedo, Arthur, fawkes, ezio
Just put better boots on her
You have a good thoran to absorb atha's dive anyway. I think -60 is more doable since who cares about Silvana and Shemira 
Had to give her Daimon boots to work
Maybe but I want to finish last stage easily

Have you tried using Eirron comp? I did a:
Lyca
Rowan
Eirr
Tasi
Athalia (but E+ nara in your case
)
at 265 on that one
I will give it a shot. I think this one might work eventually.🤔
Yeah both comps pretty much have the same chances. It will be RNG from now on. Thanks
Help
Any ideas,or do I need to wait until someone actually accepts my merc requests?
For that stage I replaced lyca with tasi but otherwise ran the same
Is their a team comp I can use with these or do I need more hero? I'm chapter 20 rn
read the pins in #classic-questions
i already did
try call or windbinder on safi
so... what's the problem?
I already used Twins, Saurus, Lyca, Safiya, Eironn, Fereal, Rowan, Tasi, Talene, Daimon.
i want to know which should be on my team
@boreal ingot looking one second
ezio brutus fawkes albedo ainz was my lineup for that
Too late! Used my merc and lucretia with ainz lmao
lol
guess that works too. gz
yeah luc breaks things
PLanning to build her right now. Only mythic tho
Is my Daimon broken or something because even with all this damage no one died
Alright got it.
This is more of a updated lineup I’m new and have no idea what I’m doing so any help here is appreciated! Played idle hero’s for a while so I’m taking some of that knowledge and hopefully incorporating that into this game
check out the pins in #classic-questions
@summer cedar if you had a nickel for every time you’ve said that 😂

🤷♂️
Best general PVP formation I could make with this please?
@south gull Anything really with Ainz, Rowan, Lyca
Are there any variants to five pull or daimon that are particularly good as later game pvp formatting? I mostly only see then mentioned in pve discussion.
n
Any suggestions?
I'm looking for a good whrizz comp
@devout idol This is what I have... if you have a hero to siggest for crystal, i can tell you if I have them
Any suggestions?
What lineup would you guys recommend?
Somthing like
Daimon
Talene
Rowan
Tasi
Lyca
hi 👉👈 i might use some help with my formation
Any tips?
How do you beat this?
I have more heroes outside crystal i can add if need be.
I'm just looking for good synergy to help me atleast not got completely floored
For 3 teams, right?
Yes, 3 teams for Challengers... crystal is 180 once martial ratings are over
The pic is what i currently have as my three lineups
https://amp.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/kvuvsp/comprehensive_pvp_guide_by_arty_alpattex/
Even if you cant build the exact comps its pretty good to at least get an idea.
@worthy steeple
r/afkarena: A Community-run subreddit dedicated to AFK Arena, a Mobile RPG.
Change 3rd team to lucius brutus rosa gwyn lyca
1st team to:
Thoran Daimon Nara farael tasi would be my suggestions. rough cause right now you have very low ascensions for the most part and I'd put lucius and farael on crystal for now
Thank chu so much for the tip
So Thoran is enough for daimon?
You're in a tough spot with not that many front liner potentials but daimon should be fine at the front for now with the heroes you have.
Once martial rating goes away the E/E+ celehypos won't do much. You can try substituting twins in for haste over nimu but they'll be super squishy.
Id also move Brutus to Ainz team.
Drop Talene.
The way it is:
Talene dies - aggro reset.
Albedo moves around like she does.
And your backline gets obliterated.
You need something that will hold the line for Ainz at least till he ults.
So could I just switch butus and Talene places? Move brutus to second and talene to third?
So something like this?
Id drop her entirely.
Brutus in front of Ainz.
Albedo second front.
Drop Numisu for Ferael.
Just keep in mind that wont work when the event goes back to normal cause 180 E+ Ferael is practically useless.
So wait, now I'm confuses who goes where, I was told fereal goes woth Daimon. Who do I use instead of talene?
Oh.
Yeah thats cool too.
He can stick with Daimon.
so if not Talene, who could be better?
Due to not having any frontline heroes built other than Albedo
and she's only plus 10. Holding off so I can build Daimon when he gets mythic
Dont worry about the 3rd team.
Make 2 really strong ones.
As strong as you can.
You only need to win 2 out of 3 fights.
On offence.
Move the team around so your weakest is against their strongest.
On defence
They will likely do the same so you will get clapped anyway :)
Sorry but thats how PvP works.
So on the two teams, Ains and Daimon, do they look good as can be? Do i need to switch someone around or add sombody to crystal?
I could try doing some comps, and see how those go
Honestly, I just want to stay where I am so I can finish returning the flowers i was given
Lyca for Nara in Daimon team.
You want the haste.
You want fast banish and Ferael fear.
I have most of the heroes I need... just missing the hypogeans like mezoth and others like Eironn and Arthur. I'm currently halfway with arthur shards
How to beat this stage i am stuck more then a 4 days on without using merc yet?
And I guess Talene for Numisu in Ainz team.
Talene Brutus front.
Brutus in front of Ainz
Albedo can start in the back.
She will teleport around anyway
@worthy steeple
Okie, thank chu for helping me
This is what I'm rockingnnow
Safi
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
Tasi
@zinc steeple
At least try.
One is for sure.
Eironn cant frontline this since mages cant be dodged.
Belinda will annihilate him.
Mages cant be dodged my ass... Khaz doesnt care
Any other tips or suggestions? Heros that might work better that you cant currently see?
Can somebody help me... I have nö Idea, how can I beat him
Beat whom?
Try moving Hendrik where Luscious is, and put Athalia instead of Wu Kong
Is that Solar Plane?
@rain vigil
Us mehira instead of wukong
And I would honestly forget Baden.
The only thing Baden can kill is your fps 
Lucious instead of Baden, perhaps.
XD okay.. I thought He is strong... I will test it... I do no dmg
He is BADen.
Somewhat good at surviving but thats about it.
Use Mehira instead of wukong and Luscious instead of Baden
He is immun against pysical dmg
I need help
Which is why you want mehira
Stuck.
How u get that far with level 145s wtf
My shemira is too weak... I will hire another one
haha I didn’t even get daimon at all till 14-20
You got Fawkes?
1 copy
Suggestions anyone?
Fawkes has an ability to remove enemies temporarily from the battlefield, try using him and see if he survives to coffin Shemira
I personally would go with:
Lucius, Damion - Front;
Belinda, Rowan, Tasi - Back;
wow I did not know about the coffin, I got extremely close to beating and probably can sort something out, thank you
No problemo
I have some good lightbearer and wilder heroes but I've been told that Shemira should be my carry. Any thoughts on what my team comp should be?
Thanks!
Shemira starts struggling after Ch22 so she's not an long time carrier, I'd go with
Saurus, Brutus - Front;
Shemira,Rowan, Tasi - Back;
Is it not too important to be building a team comp to take advantage of faction bonuses?
Not very, my team comp dosen't even have 2 heros of the same faction and I'm doing pretty good

Help please
IMO best help w screenshot is say what is happening and who is dying first. Easier to swap replacements. Also it’s a major game skill as you go (knowing why you failed - is it impossible or rng)
I’d maybe try swapping Lyca and daimon spots to give him more cover and Lyca has a faction advantage. If possible, make sure Silvina jumps to Rowan by being the weakest (vs ainz)
All the Elite copies to Elite+
Thats safe to do.
Just be careful after that.
Should I get joker or queen?
Dont go past E+if you dont have enough to L+ right out.
For instance.
Its perfectly safe to combine these Thorans, Isabellas and Feraels into E+ copies of themselves.
Just be careful with getting them L after that if you dont have enough to L+ them right out.
@feral radish
My best attempt the only one left was Kaz with low hp. If the RNG is good, everyone gets to use their ultimates, if not Lucius immediately goes down. What should I do?
@empty ibex Only level 5 heroes. You can reset some of the heroes to lvl 1 and use the returning resources to overlevel Wukong up to 100.
Oh wow I never thought of that. Let me try
Cant even knock out one before my entire team is slaughtered. Might just be a wait and hope to either level up enough to brute force it or just wait for luck on drawing heroes for ascending
I got him to lv 71
Rosaline, Nara, Rowan.
Same story.
E+ them.
Its totally safe.
@feral radish
@empty ibex remind me again because I forgot already. Does 4 of your heroes have to be lvl 80 in order to bring the 5th one to 100?
I could try resetting other two that are not useful to me anymore. Kong and Shemira managed to survive and leave Kaz at ONE hp
If only dodge RNG wasn't so rough
On my last attempt with lv 71 Kong
@sour knoll try Rowan, Lyca, Tasi, Eironn, Fera. Or some variation of it. Chalice, blade, call, call, eye respectively.
@empty ibex you ever only need to lvl 5 heroes. The rest that you use can go to the crystal slots. Might I suggest also going through the pins on #classic-questions
Thank you!
I did it, thank you for the help @warm swan
Gz!
Do you think this is possible with a "couple" more retries or should I change something?
Anyone you recommend me switch out ? Not having a problem beating the chapters but wanting to optimize as much as possible
Any help please
Idk how to get passed the shemira
Hali-gali
Any suggestions? Tasi banishing my shemira.
(New game code 9biwud4xrt)
Nemora out for Daimon
Stuck here. Been trying afkhelper and stage info but no luck
So how to bust past tower 404. I think i am underleveled for the job. Lucretia didn't work, and i don't think thoran comp is possible due to enemy thoran
This is what I used
This is what I used
@upper depot and the stage ss? 🙂
Just got nara ascended what's next
Any line up recommendations?
who to build belongs in #classic-questions
check out the pins in #classic-questions
31-4, I've got the first team worked out. Any ideas for the second? I've check afk helper
If only I had +30 Arthur, +30 albedo, and +30 9/9 ainz
My best lineup please?
Too early to tell, but I already answered you xD
Thank you 😊
Daimon, Pipa, Tasi, Izold and Saurus
Any suggestions? Shemira can use ultimate ones then dies
You hava Nara to pull goatman?
I made it🙂
How you people go against those without Nara and Tasi? xd
Any recommendations for this? Maybe I’m not using the right artifacts
I'd swap Tasi and Rowan, and swap Eironn out for a Talene or Brutus for more stall
Hi i m new to the game, what would be my best lineup ?
Any suggestions?
do you have skiarth 3/3?
E+ Brutus work? The lineup in my screenshot worked for some 2 levels lower but I’m 400 tries in and Rngesus is not on my side
Only have an L+ skriath
oof i five pull cheesed it
Mirael center back and Rosa to carry, Rowan Tasi to support
E+ Brutus will forever work xd
okey thanks
Oh ya I saw a screenshot of 5 pull with thoran as a successful comp
Should do, else it's a lot of invest to get his +20 
i default to cheese and if i cant i use daimon or something 
Meta comps that's been best for me with Daimon is Talene/Tasi/Ferael/Rowan/Daimon
Can flex in Brutus and Lyca
I think thoran is going to work, just did it with a kelthur instead of Belinda and nearly won but Belinda was just slightly out of range. I’ll try a Lorsan next
Belinda the best mage for linking 
Who should I put all my resources into?
Can someone help with this? Eironn dies pretty fast
Daimon were good hero
Any suggestions?
youre missing 1 character here
whos the 5th?
Any tank
Stuck on 25-22. Please help
finally got a thoran cheese comp to work with lorsan and various amounts of undress on thoran lol. seems like the next stage is more of the same except a brutus
congrats!
Tough one, easiest would be Eironn/Saf team with Eironn in slot 5 but your missing Rowan..
Maybe swap Lyca for Eironn, and Lucius for Brutus to buy Shem enough time to ult
read the pins in #classic-questions
Any ideas?
tasi rowan lyca daimon eironn is what I'd try
Okay let’s see. Thanks for your suggestion 🙂
My clear
90-/+/*+
Is this a good lineup?
Read the pins in #classic-questions
@shrewd pawn A core of Shem+Rosa combo with Lyca for buffs, Tasi for cc, and maybe a tank. And I know you only asked for lineup but I'd suggest you limit your ascension to 1 hero per faction so as not to spread your fodders thin
okay thanks i’ll try that
I tried Gwyneth comp and Eiron comp, both did not make it.... I need Izold here??? I tried Daimon too, his best try was about 110M but failed
Both Gwynrth team and Eiron can clear the 1st one which has higher power but not the second one due to Mehira.
What do you guys think the best lineup for me would be with the elites I have? Currently struggling in ch 5
u need nara/athalia to disrupt her bats. whatever team fits around that
I actually 5pulled that. i dont recall why I chose to do so...
read the pins in #classic-questions
@summer cedar ok thx...seems like Thoran cheese is ineffective against Mehira. 😫
sergio managed to thoran that stage https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=32&stage=8
read the pins in #classic-questions
@shut glacier cheesed that one. Had 9 lvls above you tho so I'm not sure.
@carmine charm what Bob said. Can't go wrong with a carry Wukong that early
@summer cedar thx a lot , I will try tomorrow 😋
@warm swan yeah, I will cheese as per esergio but must be tomorrow. Today feel too tried
@summer cedar @warm swan
Mirael and athalia just straight up melt me
I made it
Thx a lot ☺️
Not sure if u can use this, but its worth a try
Mercenary available on this one
Suggestions?
I either get melted immediately, or knock Brutus vurk and khasos, then die
not sure what exactly I can do here
Does daimon work better in ainz comp or fereal?
I'm thinking of:
Team 1: replace mehira with Tasi
Team 2: replace Tasi with Skriath and fereal with tidus
Team 3: replace daimon with fereal
Good changes or bad?
Why two carrys in one team?
Which one?
From what I've seen it's a pvp comp I saw used in HoE
I'm thinking put saurus with god comp, talene with dimensionals and change the eironn comp to a more budget burst variant with gwyn. Absolute nonexpert opinion
Any idea what those would look like? I'm Def open to experimenting around. My gwyn is only +20 though. I don't like gwyn... Lol 😂 😂 I'll use her if I HAVE to
my assumption for ainz+daimon+ezio is
ainz knocks off 50% current hp. then ults. daimon then removes 26% of max hp from 3 enemies. then ezio executes below 27%. that's some damn good synergy.
granted I suck at pvp. I'm just speaking on how the synergy/reasoning might work
I dont like gwyn either
Without 9/9 ainz is unlikely to do goal of all life in any meaningful time
I'm thinking Arthur albedo ainz talene ezio for the dim comp, your current god comp with saurus for talene, then for the burst comp you could either do budget burst so something like eironn estrilda lyca gwyn lorsan or go the other direction with 5 pull and something like tidus lyca safiya eironn skriath
You don’t need to wait for 15 seconds if the first ainz ult one shots you 
With windbinder. Thats perfectly true. After i got to chap30, with 3* windbinder no one dares to touch my 9/9 +20 ainz lol
9/9 ainz 
😩 now i wanna finish 29 even more
Ty. I'll try once I get 3/9 skriath
I mean, the dude above ya is the dude that cleared chap29 at lvl271 with the most optimal comp unlike me
Well will you look at me, here at 271
I cleared it at lvl272. But i do have ainz, so
I also have ainz 🤷♂️ no arthur doe so sad times
Smh you guys should take a break and stop pushing. It pressures me.
push and stop pinging me 
More people using daimon need to post to the website for 29, thinking for myself is hard
Why shouldnt i poke you

read the pins in #classic-questions. looks like saveas carry to me
read the pins in #classic-questions. wu carry
ok
help with 500 KT plox
rowan position 4. play around with the rest, probably lucius/talene frontline. saveas shud be really high lvl, higher than ev1 else, but sounds good
Can I get a top 10 list of heroes to try and get that will be viable from start to end?
I'm just starting game
Read pins in #classic-questions that will be much more helpful
This is what I'm working with for now. From what I've seen/read Thoran will be an ok choice for now?
#lineup-help message the rng was hell. read the full convo for details
yep ive seen this comp, thanks, what resonator level were you if you remember?
saveas is the damage dealer here and he vastly outperforms ferael in that regard. fera is good for cc but he really only gets strong later in the game, lvl 221
I literally just beat it today since I finally got the daimon30 merc. 345 so uhhh... gl 😅
big oof, hey at least i can try merc a mehira since ive got my own daimon
thank you for halp
👍
Thoran, Daimon - Front row;
Rosaline, Mirael, Rowan - Back row;
Need some help with this one
Help! Mages & Mireal destroys me. Also Eironn can't pull anyone in for some reason.
Could use some advise, I use fawkes to lock 1 wizard and nara to pull the other but still I get rekt 😅
Eiron won't be of use either he just gets 1 shot if he pulls in the enemy's, even tho he is mythic geared
Tried using Tasi to make them all sleep? If she can survive
I should try put belinda, rosa and shemira on backline and use thoran for the horse guy and try tasi next to him
Or with Lyca for haste
yeah building lyca's SI gives you per 5 points extra haste
Or someone that can cc enemy carry (Nara, Tasi, Fawkes)
I cant beat the ancient ruins
are my guys just too low level rn or is my team just bad
I can beat this fight but i get wiped on all the other ones
Leveling Golus instead Lucius is your biggest mistake, also use Fawkes instead Mehira
enemy level is 117 in this fight and lucius still dies before he can ult lol
i was told to level my l+ instead of mythics for now
should i spend 20 diamond to swap lucius and golus
Because is lvl 123 and not 160
Tbh I never used Saveas as carry cause his limit is 160, but carry should be 20-40 levels above others which is not possible here
What will be the best lineup to complete chapter 18? Also, which heros should I even focus on? I have just returned so idk what the meta is like.
Your team has 3 L+ tier heros and 2 Celes/Hypo. L+ tier hero can't be lvled up after 160 so they will he useless soon, also Celes/Hypo aren't very usefull unless you whale, your line-up is a complete mess, send a picture of all your heros
I'd go with Lucius, Golus - Front; (Except for Lucius you don't really have any good tanks), Belinda, Rowan, Saveas - Back;
Someone suggested him to upgrade Golus... Saveas can be fine but Golus is literally useless
is taline really not good
i get her to epic+ tomorrow
Talene is whale hero so not really useful there
You can't level Golus after 160 so ge will be litterally useless soon, same goes for Saveas
I said that Celes/Hypo aren't good if you don't spend lots of money into to game,but she is good
Would someone mind taking a look? :)
Send me heroes in private, slowmode is annoying xd
Finally got Rowan, any nice new formations that I can make (even if I have to do some swapping around at resonant crystal)
I'm decidedly overwhelmingly bad at making teams looking at my arena challenger win ratio 😩
Saveas,Tasi - Front row;
Belinda, Rowan, Rosaline - Back row;
oh wow just tried it on campaign and its like, perma tasi sleep lmao
Just wait for enemy Tasi then

yeah im glad i got tasi as one of my very first pulls in the game 
I would focus more on getting carry 
Im glad I got Ulmus as one of my very first pulls in the game and never used him 
But yeah focus on carry(Belinda) first
Belinda is still haunting me
Belinda best carrier untill Ch20🔝
True, but I got Joker at chapter 16 
Silence P2W
I just bought him 😕
supporting the game is always good
Im excited to get Joker next Sunday, I heard he's great and really good in Ch30,I can link him to Lyca since she's useless but Ascended 1*
I am waiting to switch Nara or Brutus with ascended Queen next week 
Maybe Brutus cause he is leg, and Nara mythic
Brutus is really good if you are 100 lvl below the enemy because he survives the most
I can send my team here if you wanna check
Sure, just saying Brutus is good when the other heros die <10 secs
oof, calling Lyca useless sure is a questionable statement 😄
Sure I've seen some really nice stats of her, but for me she is lvl 200 and my enemies are lvl 310, she barley survives and does no damage
Looks good tho I'm not sure about JOKER being front row,he's not really tanky
Trust me, he survives longer than any tank at this stage
Who should I replace with Queen? I need 1 leg+ fodder and 1 elite Nara for ascended
Still not a good idea to put him front row, he will survive more back row

Prob. Nara or Warek
After Queen time for daddy Arthur and Gwen
still busy with ainz and albedo
Gwyneth is good later-game and I say she really stars to shine after lvl 240, don't rush her
gwyneth kinda disappoints @ chapter 33 and further though
Too many Gwens 
I have her Ascended and don't use her but I have just tons of fodder lying around and if I have enough copies for A I'll do it

She works great with Joker
When she gets SI to 20 so it might be worth ascending her
Ainz +30 LET'S GOOOOO
Rowan +25...
OH yeah I almost forgot why I was really searching for a new formation in the first place lmao. Second to last fight in labyrinth floor 3 hard mode.
I just have those 5 cart heros but maybe they change something?
Thoran,Queen - Front;
Saveas,Gwyneth, Tasi - Bwck;
Beat the stage yesterday, but this one seems to be so hard. So I’m asking for some help again 🙈
Also uou can use Dura's Tears
doesnt kill a single one of em /: i have one duras tear so yeah maybe
oh wait what if i mirror comp them lmao
nope lmao
What am I supposed to do?
Am I just totally outnumbered here or is this a lineup issue?
I tried a bunch of stuff but all my mages/supports get one shot except for rowan, so my options seem limited
@vernal gyro call on Eironn and Tasi?
@warm swan Yes call on both, but the fight only lasts like 5 seconds, because all get oneshot
Ow, that's rough. Was hoping Eironn can cc Mehira fast enough. Might need to use a Nara or Atha on Mehira then
No unfortunately not. Only have Nara on E+ and no Athalia. May need wait a week for a merc
Nara just have to disrupt mehira's bats, try it with the E+ if the power cap is friendly
Just beat it with. Rowan, Daimon, Safiya, Eironn, Tasi on 252
Thanks guys 🙂
@shut glacier Yea already used this site, it’s very helpful
He alrd cleared it dint he
Yea I cleared it 🙂 Thanks for the help
Any advice my team is getting wiped
Is she good? Just now got her for free from a task. Dunno if she's worth leveling up or not
Anyone got an artifact guide?
Put her on crystal, it's good to have her but won't be extremely useful
If you could just refer to the pinned guide on #classic-questions , many of your questions will be answered.
Sorry i thought u mean the videos in #545929173471068170
This belongs in #classic-questions
Thanks for the help bud, someone said to me earlier I could do with more cc in my formation but am not totally sure who could bring that to the table here?
This is the bottom half of the box, if it makes any difference.
Early on that role falls to arden usually, which improves at lvl 141. Brutus works ok here but he'll really shine at lvl 141.
Who does fawkes coffin?
Khasos
At that point mirael switches to the golus which then ends up with morvus and enemy mirael destroying everything lol
I'd swap fawkes for either lyca or arden maybe. If not could always afk
I feel like I'm really on the cusp of being a able to push my crystal higher, just gotta get a few more blue heroes
If rosa does not ult she's kinda useless, so then swap her out for lyca/arden as well
Yeah she usually just dies pretty quickly
Yeah that's what I suspected. Lyca can die early but she provides a team wide buff which rosa doesn't. And Arden's cc helpa mira survive
I swapped out Rosa for arden and I'm already seeing better results, I'm losing still but when I can put lyca in my crystal (no slots) and swap her for fawkes I should see a clear
How can I beat this?
Thanks a lot Bob 😀
👍
Does estrilda walk towards talene or tasi? Do u have a Brutus?
I have a brutus and she walks towards talene
Any tips to beat this ?
Try brutus talene lyca rowan ainz then. Who does tasi banish?
Guys any good substitutes for Lucius?
Nevermind, as I was checking who estrilda walks towards I got really good rng and with ainz and I beat it lol
I've been trying for days but now when I look for help it suddenly works
Can anyone help me with 20-37
Help
I imagine kelthur is messing up Arthur's direction so my first instinct is swap arthur/talene and ainz/bedo
Never mind then
Someone help please
Daimon doesn't really belong here until he gets SI. Swap in rowan
Alright! Do I go tasi or falkes ?
The main problem here is Saveas, critical RNG helps him destroy whoever is on his lane, Brutus is kind of an issue as well but only when he spins around. The closes I've been is leaving Saveas alive with a quarter hp... What should I do?
if u read the pins wu kong shud be level 100. then this is an easy clear
Oh, right... Carries should be 20 levels higher than everyone else... I'll try it out

Need help deciding if I should get Queen and Joker...
I focused too much in leveling up for the crystal :/. I got Kong to 87 and made it through the level easily
Joker if only one
read the pins in #classic-questions
I have
Thx for the advise I'll try it out
Hey guys need help with mercenary . Can anyone help .
Any insight on this stage?
If I pull fera he doesn't drain me as much but Safi oneshots
If I pull Safi, ferael drains and fears
Can you guys help with this I've been here for 2 days, you can see my full roster
@raw niche I would pull saf. Also I would switch out Brutus and throw tasi in your lineup.
What would you recommend for pve?
Hali-gali
Any suggestions? Tasi banishing shemira.
Try resetting shem and getting daimon up to 140
Read the pins. You've wasted a lot of fodder getting people to L without being able to take them to L+ and its slowing you down. Until 160 Mirael or saveas are your best carry options. After that daimon
Your lineup looks good for this chapter, but may need tweaking for the spcific stage. Who is giving you trouble?
generally pulling saf is the way to go. Skreg and Brutus stages arent fun, hang in there.
wrong channel, post in #mercenary
Ye, figured that, shemira and eironn were in crystal but had to get them out.
I started seeing guides pretty recently so it's from this point to manage progress.
Thanks
Thank you, but I already solved it by pulling saf and RNG blessed me with Rowan dodging everything and giving me enough energy for daimon to ult 3x and winning. I've cleared the chapter already. Brutus I can handle, skreg is more of a pain at this stage of a game.
All good! glad you found them now. It will help you progress so much faster. Feel free to post in #classic-questions for guidance of who to build first based on what youve already got
Way to go! I recommend building a lorsan just to E+ to deal with skreg. Any damage he takes from a lorsan link ignores his damage reduction, came in handy a few times in ch28-30 for me
I have e+ lorsan already, but he's weak and gets oneshot by anything really. Hell even Brutus looking at him and he's like 😵
Same thing with Fawkes, I can barely rely on Nara for one pull and bam oneshotted
Lorsan is basically just there for the link, he dies quick after that
No idea what the link does. I never used him
The link makes 2 unites share damage. Basically you can link him to a weak unit and he takes all the damage the weak one does too, completely ignoring his damage reduction passive, making him way easier to kill
Any ideas for this stage? There's too much crowd control, if Lucius triggers shields no way to kill, if nemora triggers heal shields also come so doom as well, if Seirus ults I get washed away and stunned, and on top of that Nemisu totems distract or kill someone at random
Some advise plz
Nara to hook totem dude instead Tasi? I think that Tasi banishes Lyca
Try Brutus and Thoran front, Joker, Tasi and Rosaline back
What line up should I use?
Nara instead Talene to hook Vurk, Lucius front bottom maybe? And Theowyn front
you are right, Tasi was banishing Lyca which bought time but was not that helpful, I managed to time the Daimon stun and get the kill on Lucius, maybe it can work with some more retries
That is actually soo helpful, thank you ❤️
I got you
Line up?
I just unlocked the first trials of God and it's kicking my arse xD
check the guides channel. +30 saurus makes ToG way easier.
Lol it actually worked xD
What
My formation for last level
Ah lmao
Who does Tasi banish?
Dunno
I don't even have L+ saurus :/, I completely ignored him. Prio was lyca and Eironn now I'm building tasi. I thought saurus was like for bosses only, so I can Merc him. Fuck.
Who turns green and doesn't move?
With this halfass Daimon comp it's a bit hard with those debuffs
Me stuck at 22-60 
murder victim I mean hm yes that's the question for the lad above sorry
anyone wanna help me get my best team out of this? I'm stuck and need to reformat i think
Wu Kong, Rosa and Tasi back; Talene and Lucius front
wow that worked so well thanks bro
are there any other character i have that would be worth switching out, they'd be leveld afterwards of course
Fawkes/Nara is pretty good for CC , Eironn as carry and Shemira ealry carry
Can I get some help on a thoran comp for 31-4-1?
I think tasi dies too fast
Found it, muriel
Tasi is stupid sometimes, but op if pulls ult so keep trying with different position for her
Its muriel
Is there any way I can do this or am I just too low level
Nemora charms Daimon?
No, Tree fucking floors daimon. Nemora is not the problem
And estrilda always attacks brutus
You need some high burst against that tree, mostly glass cannon mages
That will be bad for you then 😕
Could i try bursting with safiya?
Of course
@proud edge tbh i think its way too hard to cheese r1. You gotta get numisu to not totem thoran, thoran to survive and ult on his first life, and you gotta get him to not oneshot everyone on his first ult or else he wont be able to take out brutus on his second life
ive gotten close but its always brutus vs thoran and thoran doesnt dish out enough damage
Ooof. Maybe I try to cheese round 2 then. Let me get my r1 eironn saf comp set then work on r2 thoran
whats your eironn saf comp? I can beat r2 pretty easily but r1 sucks
for r2 I cna do eironn, saf, tasi and two random filler with no gear and its like 95% win rate at rc301. Working on that comp for r1 though.
These are what I’m trying. Ezio is pretty useless so you can probably use whatever
Its muriel, where should I put tasi?
Tasi banishes Hypo Mage. Enemy Tasi banish Daimon. Minions and enemy Ferael are annoying
What's the stage #
damn announcements
29-15
Restarted on a new server and trying to power through to level 9-20 as fast as I can having a spot of trouble
Any ideas?
@wispy tartan my krabby patty recipe for mehira stages: the 5 pull into daimon and literally just powering through the bats because daimon is a monster
interesting lol, ive never done 5 pull with daimon before
I've actually used it probably 30+ times in the last few chapters. Something about it just clicks
without +30 eironn you might need that extra damage anyway
Yeah eironn literally just pulls here, he never ever ults. No one ults except daimon actually lol
Hey guys
Can you help me with my team and suggest me which heroes should I upgrade ?
Since it's super earlygame the guides pinned in #classic-questions will have more information than we can reasonable relay to you. I can say to stop making L heroes right now though.
And what do you suggest me to do
Build fodder to 160 and amass copies to hopefully waste less fodder in the future. All this is explained in the beginner's guide.
So basically just max out your hero count then lvl fodder to get more space then do it again till we have 8 copies?
I am officially stuck
Hey guys i need anyhelp for my line up what should i keep and what should i change?
@wispy tartan last one I'll need from you but you wouldn't happen to have 29-59? 🥺👉👈 or anyone really lol
I only save boss stages or very tough ones but I prob used something similar
Thanks guys, I'll give it a shot
actually looking at it I'm 99% sure I used classic 5 pull
I really want to use this team but the game said no unfortunately
Need help
I need help... this level is stupid
Nothing i try works... I think i'm just stuck until i can +30 rowan
ngl i think i cheesed that although i dont have the replay
Thoran or lucretia?
thoran
Lol ok
@mild geyser got this working for 2, need to set one now
tasi and anatandra 
I really need help
@mild geyser if you're still stuck, this just passed first try with minimal gear
did your ezizh do anything besides pull numisu?
I really need help
occasionally my ezizh has survived but idk if its important
Nope. He had literally just the zero star tidebearer artifact and no other gear
thanks ill give it a shot. sadly my saf is only +20 so i think it will require more retries
Yeah it might, but having gear should offset the +30 I think