#lineup-help

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autumn needle
steel patrol
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Hey guys what are the best lineups for Respen campaign 29+ , floor 350+ tower, or pvp?

karmic mortar
young summit
manic ravine
stuck trellis
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show stage

maiden marsh
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^

manic ravine
stuck trellis
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so

do you want to learn more? or do u just want the answer to beating hte stage

manic ravine
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Learn more

stuck trellis
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niiice happytasi
alright lets go through the basic thought process you wanna have while making lineups

young summit
manic ravine
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🤓

maiden marsh
icy parcel
stuck trellis
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first of all, whos causing all the issues when you try to beat the stage @manic ravine
is it vurk deleting your team too fast? is it fera making your team unable to ult?

manic ravine
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I think vurk sometimes kills my guys too fast. I don't seem to see tasi being an issue. Ferael could be lowering my haste. But if I use ainz comp, he does get an ult off. But too late and it doesn't one shot ferael and vurk. And brutes will just proceed to clean up

young summit
manic ravine
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Daimon comp is worse. Everything just dies.

young summit
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I just had her at e+

stuck trellis
icy parcel
manic ravine
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@stuck trellis brutus. Yeah I had her there but I kept tinkering and she was left out of crystal due to timer

stuck trellis
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now lets look at your positioning there.

you have tasi, who will blink away after getting hit, or just die instantly, and you have fera, who is a squishy support unit behind her. this means that when you start the battle, tasi gets hit, she blinks away, and leaves fera completely exposed

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the two units who do the most damage on their team according to you, brutus and vurk, are on the top side. but you essentially are leaving that side completely exposed, which lets them run through your team and kill everything quickly

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since fera is the one who is keeping your team alive in the first few seconds with his fear, you really dont want him to be exposed like that

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so you see the problems there right

manic ravine
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Yeah I get that

stuck trellis
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now lets think about how we can deal with that. rene gave you these units as a reccomdation to use with daimon : Rowan tasi/lyca/fera/thoran

manic ravine
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Yeah I tried tasi lyca fera. I just tried to swap ferael and tasi down. It looks like my front line gets wiped too quickly

stuck trellis
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right the frontline is getting wiped too quickly. so by putting a tankier unit such as rowan/brutus across brutus and vurk, your frontline ends up living much longer

manic ravine
stuck trellis
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rowan is a dodge unit, and he also has an ability where he can become immune to some of hte damage taken
that leads to him being a very effective frontliner

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brutus lives for like 8 seconds, so he would also be much more effective to use there instead of lyca who dies in 3 seconds

manic ravine
stuck trellis
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see how rowan lives there and is still healthy?

manic ravine
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Yeah but if by any chance daimon goes off, his ult doesn't do much.

stuck trellis
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we solved the problem of your top side being exposed and dying instantly, now the issue is keeping daimon alive and having tasi + rowan ult to start the cc chain

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when u look at that SS, you see that tasi and fera, who are in positions 3 and 5, are completely untoched.
so u know that when rowan is tanking the damage, those two positions become safe

so daimon, who you want alive, would go in one of those slots

stuck trellis
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now you want to stop fera and vurk from doing a ton of damage. since tasi doesnt banish any of them, you need to rely on ferael's fear, tasi's ult, and rowan's ult to stun them and keep the fight going

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cause of that, you want tasi to ult as fast as possible, and you want ferael in a safe position so he can fear and apply his debuffs

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if we look back at the screenshot, lyca has died. that means damage is coming her way. we also see that daimon is nearly dead, so we know positions 2 and 4 arent safe

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we also know that units gain energy when they get, meaning units who are taking lots of damage will ult quicker. so by having tasi in the frontline tanking golus, she would ult quicker, and you would be close to solving the vurk/fera problem

manic ravine
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Hmm interesting analysis. Let me test abit

icy parcel
# manic ravine Yeah but if by any chance daimon goes off, his ult doesn't do much.

you said you hadnt used Daimon much before this right? see, Daimon isn't a Burst hero like Ainz, he borrows stats from the enemy when using his shield, then is able to deal quite good single target damage with normal attacks, plus he recovers 150% of the damage he has received on the last 9 seconds.
As long as the enemy cant overcome the Shield + Daimon HP in 9 seconds you should win, key point is not being attacked by all 5 enemies at the same time, you want to distract some enemies and get some early kills in order to diminish damage income.
Top diversions are Thoran/Brutus or Talene, do you got any of those?

karmic mortar
pale monolith
icy parcel
# karmic mortar I need some help?

you are 6 levels below the enemy, you Shouldnt have much trouble, got Safiya? she is huge help for Eiron, then add Lyca for haste and some tanks so Hogan/Estrilda dont bother you much

pale monolith
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Im 40-80 levels behind the enemyhoganLUL

icy parcel
pale monolith
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Ainz

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My Ainz - Lvl 240
Thoran - Lvl 220
Rest lvl 200

karmic mortar
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Eironn daikon dies fast

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Daimon

pale monolith
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So Eirron or Daimon

icy parcel
karmic mortar
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I use eironn

pale monolith
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I'd suggest you use
Shemira/ Damion
Lucius
Eironn
Brutus
Fawkes
You need Brutus for his shield to protect Fawkes which coffins up Saveas or the wheel guy, with the main damage dealer out of the way it should be easy

karmic mortar
karmic mortar
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Everyone but Lucius and eironn dies lmfao

pale monolith
karmic mortar
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I KNOW THAT LMFAO he just kinda like dies you know lol I guess I gotta wait for some food for him now

pale monolith
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No he can aurvive in a positon because there is no Anthalia, no Hypogean Mage,no nothing to target back line

manic ravine
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@stuck trellis tasi at the front to build energy dies too fast. And I just feel the enemy is building up energy way faster than me. Getting rowan to ult seems impossible

pale monolith
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@karmic mortar You can also try using Cecilia on Saveas

karmic mortar
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Front or back?

pale monolith
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Back

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Cecilia makes a circel that reduces the damage an enemy deals by 60%

marsh solar
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i need some help on 26-48 i dont have discord on my phone but i can tell you what i got

karmic mortar
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Damn I guess I’m just trash or underleveled or both cause I die 100% of the time lol

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Thanks for the help tho

amber halo
marsh solar
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help me with 26 48 LOL, 1 Skreg 2 Diamon 3 Eironn 4 Rowan 5 Silus

orchid cypress
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I need help with Chapter 23-34 MP if needed Im open to every suggestions 🙂

slow mirage
manic ravine
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@icy parcel I actually used him after 160 to 200 as my carry. I have talene thoran etc. But I find thoran not that good a distraction as he diverts enemies away from once he triggers. Brutus is better in a way they will still continue to attack him through the immunity

orchid cypress
# slow mirage Should I change positioning?

Actually no, You only have to put it in manual and i would consider using Rowan instead of Grezul. U need to ult 1 time with Rowan (manually) and all the other times with Saurus

orchid cypress
slow mirage
orchid cypress
stuck trellis
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you can deal with that by cc'ing him harder, or by moving tasi and putting a tankier unit in that slot like we did with rowan

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that could involve taking lyca out for something like brutus if u can fit within power req, or just frontlining lyca and having her be a meatshield

daring prawn
floral minnow
mint nimbus
pale kettle
manic ravine
gilded dome
brave oriole
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@gilded dome try tasi front and replace Brutus with safiya Backline

violet igloo
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@gilded dome take out Brutus, put nemora backline instead. Or try with Belinda backline so she can boost Daimon

amber halo
fallow ruin
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I've also been told to possibly focus on Brutus & Mireal to help progression

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Realistically I probably wont get much from 30 pulls but I'm trying to save up all gems & scrolls from event and pull when it ends. Should make some headway then

pale kettle
amber halo
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try talene instead of queen

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it should work but if it by some mysterious reason doesnt then tasi instead of queen

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and u want to put rowan in spot 2 or 5 so he can stun thane

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preferably spot 2 if his si is high enough for him to dodge

pale kettle
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I’ll give it a try! Thanks 🙏🏽

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You’re amazing. Thank you 🤘🏽

amber halo
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no worries what made it work?

pale kettle
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Used talene and Rowan got the stun up front. Gave my Ainz enough time to get a double Ult.

amber halo
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perfect and yes talene is very good in this comp to keep ur team alive

amber halo
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maybe u could put lucius in there instead of ferael. Should be helpful

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rowan in 4 talene in 5 or 3. Lucius in 2 shemira 1 for example

pale kettle
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I need fereal to stop the enemy fereal's fear so i can get anything done

amber halo
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well if u really want to counter ferael then u should use nemora and charm their ferael

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and a banisher like tasi/fawkes is good against enemy shemira teams

pale kettle
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Faweks doesnt do anything due to fereal same thing with tasi and nemora doesnt get her charm off by the time she dies

amber halo
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u should retry couple of times since most times rng and a nemora e+ will charm ferael eventually

amber halo
digital crest
pale kettle
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Whoever made stage 15-40 should be fired

pale kettle
amber halo
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reposition him he dont need energy to do it. And it will get a lot worse in the future

pale kettle
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Anythig with fereal is just disgusting

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Finallydone with that

cerulean otter
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So I just got a lot of wilders from my pull session what should line up be? I hit a wall in chapter 6 :/

past urchin
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Hes too low level there to be disgusting.
Wait for when he's >221
@pale kettle

sullen bone
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Who should I put to L+ first ? I'm playing a lot with Belinda Lucius Rowan Rosa and aa 2nd tank. Can't really seem to find who to replace to use Fawkes or Raine
(Also I have a red chest that would allow me to have another lucius or 10 faction scrolls, other choices are meh since I don't have them in multiple copies)

steep forge
pale kettle
past urchin
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Fun isnt it xD

pale kettle
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it's just the worst thing ever i literally most of the time use my merc for that and then push a chapter if there is no fereal in sight xD

drowsy gazelle
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Lvl260 ferael? Arent u at chap15/16?

near pond
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Need help. I cannot beat this floor and it's the only one I am missing to complete so I could obtain all my 5 main heroes mythical gear (quest for 80 floors beaten on all 4) any help?
Ps. Vurks deal at least 700k dmg no matter what config

low apex
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use a merc?

near pond
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I should have 1 more slot free but no clue which one would work on this setup

low apex
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add me ill give you a good eironn #98443793

near pond
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Sure

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Sent

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Wow your eironn just well. Destroyed them as fast alone as they destroyed me previously. Thanks! @low apex

low apex
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np

pale kettle
low apex
opaque crow
velvet belfry
pale kettle
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4th time i’ve been told that lmfao it’s a bit late but yeah i’m focusing on shem so i can get her ascended

velvet belfry
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as for pve,

mirael/tasi/nemora backline
lucius/lyca frontline

will probably be good

dont focus on shemira, its a trap. focus on daimon

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for pvp, you can just use the same thing

pale kettle
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tyty

velvet belfry
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shemira will seem nice cause it will help you breeze through early to midgame, but daimon can do the same thing, and not completely fall off and be useless after

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just using mirael will be good for where you are rn as a carry, once you hit a wall post 160, feel free to ask me or other people at #classic-questions who to take to mythic

karmic dune
proud edge
# karmic dune

Okay, first off, you are killing your progression by making any unit L if you dont have the copies to make it L+ right away. It is a huge waste of resources.

For LB focus on Rowan, then Rosa. Stop ascending the others for now or it will slow you down.
For GB silas is good, odin less a priority.
For Wilder Tasi and lyca and Eironn are your core.
For Mauler Tidus is a decent build but not used much outside of mauler tower. Eventually youll want safiya, skriath, and skreg.

At your level, Mirael would be your best carry, but you don't have any of her. After 160 belinda, shemira, or ideally Daimon will carry you far until you start using eironn teams much later.

Your progression may stall a bit as you build up a better carry, but it will catch back up as opposed to trying to force through what you've got right now.

drowsy locust
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@proud edge please advice me teams for Tournament from my heroes

proud edge
karmic dune
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@proud edge thanks for the response! I messed up with the many Ls I made, and I probably need a better carry than the wukong

drowsy locust
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it is not about "strongest", as I believe
more about synergy between teams
i am using as my strongest team right now: Lyca + Brutus / Arden + Tasi + Saveas

proud edge
karmic dune
proud edge
proud edge
drowsy locust
proud edge
drowsy locust
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if i just put my strongest i will have Saveas, Belinda and Eiron (3 carries) and only 1 support and 1 tank
so your advice is far from relevant

low apex
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ya but at your level that works fine lol

drowsy locust
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maybe, but for tournament i need at least 2 teams

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in second i tend to use belinda+rosaline

low apex
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you're not even high enough level to get all the skills that makes supports/tanks good. so just do your highest ascension and highest level and you'll do fine

drowsy locust
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sorry, but i already said multiple times
i am asking advice for Legends Tournament
i will have heroes at 255 level

low apex
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lvl 250 you'll still be missing the important signature items and furniture

drowsy locust
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yep, and my tree will still be at 13 lvl, but i still will have a chance to beat stronger teams)

full finch
dusty elk
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I’ve been stuck on 370 for weeks. I have every wilder hero ascended with atleast 10, ussually 20 SI. Any advice?

narrow sleet
narrow sleet
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ok ty bro

proud edge
# drowsy locust yep, and my tree will still be at 13 lvl, but i still will have a chance to beat...

You've had two people now tell you to put your strongest heroes, plus AM was nice enough to drop that chart in for you. Ascensions and Furniture are what matter in Legends, and you don't have those on any of your heroes yet, so there's not much you can do besides put your strongest heroes. No one is trying to waste your time, or not answer your question. There just isn't really a better strategy to offer you at the moment

proud edge
# narrow sleet ok ty bro

As a rule of thumb, dont take anyone past M unless you have the copies to make them M+. It's a big waste of fodder and will slow you down in the long run

drowsy locust
# proud edge You've had two people now tell you to put your strongest heroes, plus AM was nic...

I'm sorry if I offended you with my tone. You just said me to "not focus on it". But it matters to me, even at my lvl. I am getting many coins, so I will have both dimensionals from exchange and now, in time of that "phoenix"" event i am getting a bunch of diamonds every day, based on rank. I am not trying to get in champions rank, because i know, that it is impossible. I am finishing in daimond and happy with that. But right now it more matter of a luck for me, win or not. So just was seeking for some advises to create solid teams.

ripe skiff
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1 tank in frontline
1 support in fortnline
2 supports in back
and 1 carry in back or am i getting this wrong

dusty elk
valid coral
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What are the meta lineups against the mage in TR?

summer cedar
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I don't see why shroud would be necessary there. and jus use saurus god comp that's 3* on every artifact at least

dusty elk
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Saurus hod comp is chaos on saurus right?

summer cedar
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yes

dusty elk
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I’ll just keep retrying I was hoping respen would save me from retry hell

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Pretty but not even he can save me from this dumb tower

tulip mountain
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Gonna be L+ing my daimon soon, have 3 slots open on ascension crystal, any suggestions for what kind of comp to use? I’m on 10-24, been using daimon Silas talene and hogan mostly. I also have an E gwynn that got cut off

dusty elk
slow mirage
potent lion
strong comet
full finch
full finch
clever patio
proud edge
proud edge
brave oriole
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@clever patio ppls normally use lorsan to link skreg

clever patio
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Yeah I’ve tried that and all the winning formations either have tree/kaz others and none has Lorsan. Also lorsan has to be in either my saurus or nemoras spot for his link to go to skreg. Which still kinda destroys my army

brave oriole
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Let me check my tower setups

clever patio
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And skreg still does mass damage to my heroes. All of them have t2 gear

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Except nemora/turtle/lorsan which shouldn’t really matter except for maybe the nemora

clever patio
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Yeah I saw that.

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He’s got better saurus. 9/9 I’ll if that’ll make a dif

brave oriole
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Try diff artifacts on your heroes

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What do you use atm?

clever patio
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Mk like what for who xD I’m not the best for artifacts

brave oriole
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Well, try eye call shroud in eironn

clever patio
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I don’t have shroud. I have up to mage one

brave oriole
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Lyca needs grace or shroud surely, nemora call

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Anyway, put lyca and Saurus front, nemora eironn and lorsan back. Then try with eironn call eye, keep grace on lyca, call on nemora, and chaos is fine for Saurus

clever patio
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What do I want on lorsan

brave oriole
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Doesn't matter much lorsan gear, just to link skreg

proud edge
drowsy locust
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Maybe Twins?

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I just thought that Saveas will deal initial damage while Belinda getting her mana for ult

meager basin
potent lion
icy parcel
# low apex

do oyu got source for that? is too low res to zoom in

clear yacht
icy parcel
clear yacht
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Ok thanks i will swith her, i'm a bit lost with my team composition, actually doing Brutus / joker in front line and Shemira / Nara / Arden in back line, but i think i have to switch and don't really know what to do

icy parcel
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there's no such a thing as team composition pre-Mythic, you have your carry and everyone around him try to help him do its job, this could be distract enemy damage dealer, disrupt enemy cc or buffing your carry, each stage requires diferent things

burnt sierra
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thinkin on how im gonna get thru this

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that's mirael an belinda in the back btw

icy parcel
# burnt sierra Screenshot (Feb 10, 2021 2:51:05 PM)

pulling Brutus sounds like a bad idea, you are gonna burst him, he is gonna reach low HP, thats gonna increase his attack , he is gonna get his damage immunity and then he is gonna spin all over Eironn and Saurus

burnt sierra
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i see

vernal mantle
summer cedar
vernal mantle
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and wukong and saurus for frontline?

vernal mantle
proud edge
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@summer cedar do you have wilder 234 ss?

summer cedar
proud edge
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ah thanks anyway

summer cedar
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I didn't screenshot stages in the past bc I didn't think anyone would need 'em

velvet belfry
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@pale kettle

ainz

saurus
rowan
brutus
rosaline

ainz

lyca
rowan
brutus
rosaline

ainz

brutus
nemora
lyca
rowan

all come to mind as things to experiment with

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the nemora team is one you would reset until she charms ferael, that can sometimes be the difference between a win and loss

summer cedar
half agate
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Super stuck here considering every stage before this was ez

summer cedar
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hogan brutus rowan eironn arden/lyca might work

half agate
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Placing eironn in the middle leads to instant loss, bottom leads to shemira nuking, top sometimes leads to one left but never enough hp for eironn to finish ://

summer cedar
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does eironn pull succesfully?

half agate
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Or until I can use mercs or smth

summer cedar
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eironn without dodge is v difficult to make work

half agate
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Getting him ascended was the reason I've gotten to this chapter but ye the occasional comp just shits on him

proud edge
sweet badger
summer cedar
# sweet badger Lineup?

brutus lucius shem rowan tasi or something like that. reset rowan so shem is lvl 200 instead

sweet badger
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in what order I’m dumb

velvet belfry
# half agate

switch out talene for brutus at the very least, talene probably not doing much here.

keep eironn top, its probably just a matter of resetting tbh. lyca would be big here, or arden with higher ascension at 160

proud edge
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The order he listed

sweet badger
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very helpful orion

summer cedar
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it is helpful. clear the board. tap in the order I listed.

proud edge
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This^

half agate
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I will try that tho ty

velvet belfry
# half agate I'm one copy off of getting him back to L+, Talene just provides the sustain req...

how fast does Hogan die? if hes dying in a second or so, use brutus instead of him, and just use the last asp for some guaranteed breathing room (about a second or two more)

if arden is not cutting it, im thinking how good that skriath might be- whats his SI at? for that matter, what is eironns SI at?

some comps to try:

Eironn

Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Skriath

Eironn

Brutus
Rowan
Hogan
Lyca

Eironn

Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi

Eironn

Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi

half agate
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19 eironn, 0 for skriath but i have like 180 of the currency

velvet belfry
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get eironn to +30, dw about skriath rn

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skriath needs furn too generally anyways

rain vigil
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Which is the best line?

half agate
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ye thats what i heard, i need 5 more of the currency to get eironn to +20

velvet belfry
proud edge
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yes

half agate
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I could ye

velvet belfry
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+20 eironn is a nice power boost

rain vigil
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Lucius and shemira for sure
But idk who can I Pack in the back

half agate
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alright, i have like 50 red chests as well unopened

velvet belfry
half agate
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I didnt get any emblems from refresh

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rip

velvet belfry
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thats ok, i usually on refresh twice a day myself and dont get it either. its smartest to just wait

half agate
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yeah

velvet belfry
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keep hoarding them red chests from the event if you can, eironn +30 is so good

rain vigil
half agate
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also got tomorrow to get some of the events currency

velvet belfry
# rain vigil Ah sorry 😑 Why shouldnt she follow lucius?

rosa follows the character with highest combat power, and she works as an energy battery with which your carry can instantly ult twice in a row for huge burst damage potential. if she follows lucius, lucius is just gonna shield over his first ult shield, which is totally useless

half agate
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and get emblem from that

summer cedar
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it's not totally useless since shields stack. however, it is far LESS useful than the carry ulting twice

velvet belfry
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true, not totally, thats fair. but i dont see a point in rosa not following your mage carry

rain vigil
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I always thought it is good if she follow lucius.. Ok thx for the explain

velvet belfry
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i guess in the event you want to stall enemies with lucius sustain its a nice idea, but thats a very niche strategy outside of something like low level pvp

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and in PVE stall wont work without some sort of damage to finish the fight anyways, so youd want rosa on your carry (in this case, shemira)

rain vigil
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Ok
. I will test something and makes shemira a lil bit stronger.. Thx 4 Ur Support

velvet belfry
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no problem, anytime. just make sure you only ascend heroes if you can get them to L+ 🙂

rain vigil
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Can I put Joker in?

velvet belfry
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probably in place of Cecilia, yes

rain vigil
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Really nice... I won and im now chapter 15 🕺

velvet belfry
weary skiff
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Just starting & spent a bit of time reolling - Have pulled Daimon, Izold+, Thoran, Eironn - will this be alright to keep as im bored now of rerolling =p

velvet belfry
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eironn, thoran, daimon, izold all of them require investment and copies to reach their potential, you may find that once you get further the rare carries- mirael and saveas are better to push earlygame campaign with

summer cedar
proud edge
summer cedar
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I see a clear with saurus tasi lyca eironn pippa. it might be rly difficult tho

proud edge
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Yeah I tried it with nemora or lorsan instead of pippa, but neither one works

trim fjord
solar kettle
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@nocturne bone @maiden marsh here? Idk why it cut off bottom

maiden marsh
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yep. show us your box too

solar kettle
nocturne bone
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Which enemy is causing the most trouble? Try looking at replay stats

solar kettle
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let me see

maiden marsh
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in daimon's case the most troublesome enemy is almost always ferael

solar kettle
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belinda is doing the most dmg by a long shot

nocturne bone
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If you have Nara, maybe try Nara on the opposite side of either Belinda or Ferael

maiden marsh
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also you don't usually want daimon on the frontline

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especially not across from belinda

solar kettle
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ive tried a bunch of different formations

maiden marsh
solar kettle
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my nara is lvl 1 and only elite

maiden marsh
solar kettle
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ok

solar kettle
maiden marsh
solar kettle
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ok

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nope still got clapped

maiden marsh
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Gotta try more than once

solar kettle
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tried 4 times

maiden marsh
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Still not really enough but anyways, lets check artis. You got call on daimon?

solar kettle
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yes

maiden marsh
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Alright try tasi instead of rowan. Tell me who she banishes

solar kettle
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belinda

maiden marsh
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Pretty good. Close to winning?

solar kettle
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nope still getting destroyed

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imma try swapping thoran for brutus

maiden marsh
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Alright. Another thing to take note of: is daimon popping ult with bloodshield still active?

solar kettle
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well replacing brutus for thoran let me win

maiden marsh
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Nice

nocturne bone
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epic

solar kettle
#

rowan instantly dies in frontline tho

maiden marsh
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He's often better backline before ascended with proper gear yeah

solar kettle
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ok

prime dock
#

@ Joker and/or Queen owners

I need a good team build using one or both (preferably the latter)

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I don't have them yet but I need build ideas plz

thick relic
#

Which heroes fit well with joker?

pale kettle
vast meadow
iron tree
stuck trellis
#

@pale kettle

daimon
lyca
nemora
brutus
joker/arden/tasi

mortal coyote
#

Stuck on 11-12, need halp!!!!

strong comet
strong comet
# mortal coyote

What are the monsters? Take an ss of that I don’t remember the stage

solemn creek
strong comet
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Lucius, daimon, Belinda, respen, izold

solemn creek
# mortal coyote

Back: nemora, eironn, daimon Front: Lucius, izold (left to right as top to bottom)

solemn creek
mortal coyote
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Thanks to both of you, I'll give those a shot. Will a little RNG on my side should be good

strong comet
#

I still got destroyed @solemn creek

mortal coyote
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Don't think I have tasi

solemn creek
solemn creek
mortal coyote
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Ok

strong comet
#

Still lost pretty badly

solemn creek
strong comet
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No, he’s usually last alive

solemn creek
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If he is, then I’m not too sure what to do

solemn creek
strong comet
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Wasn’t that my original lineup

solemn creek
#

Brutus and talene are front line

strong comet
#

I love you that worked

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Tysm bro

solemn creek
#

Was Brutus on top or bottom?

solemn creek
strong comet
#

I just get raped every time man wtf

vast meadow
strong comet
#

Ok where should I put it then? @vast meadow

strong comet
#

Ok for who tho

summer thicket
urban notch
#

Any help please and thank you??

wide pilot
boreal ingot
#

Which 3 teams are best for challenger? And best team for arena?

hasty merlin
#

Any ideas? I need to deal with both Isabella and ferael, and Brutus always lives too long and kills anyone who survives

jade prism
#

Stuck at 12-7

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Help please

empty jasper
# boreal ingot

Ainz comp, god comp, eironn comp; ainz/god comp best for arena

empty jasper
empty jasper
# jade prism

Try front row lucius + rowan, back row ezhih + daimon + rosaline

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If that doesnt work play with brutus to see if you can get rosaline + daimon to pull off fast enough

hasty merlin
# empty jasper Just ainz

Tried it, one ult doesn’t kill Isabella and she proceeds to one shot everyone. And ferael delays that ult so everyone else dies

empty jasper
#

You also have the team for god comp but its a bit squishy

#

Does your ainz have his sig 20+?

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Even 10+ should be enough, if he kills 3 of them he will automatixally ultimate again, especially if rowan has sig 30

hasty merlin
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No just +11 or 12. He can’t kill 3 because Brutus and golus face tank, and the other three are slightly off damage

empty jasper
#

Is she wiping your team with an ultimate?

hasty merlin
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Yeah. Which she gets fast because she kills he side in the first few seconds

empty jasper
#

Use ezizh hell lock her out after ainz ult

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He also gives passive energy buff so ainz can ult faster

amber halo
#

Ainz lyca tasi and some other stuff u need haste + cc to easily beat that

umbral blaze
#

Hello, can u tell me on which Heroes to focus, so I could run story a bit easier

amber halo
#

Depends on what you have

umbral blaze
#

Started a game not so long time ago 😂

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So got time to explore those Heroes, but maybe I got alrdy some good

frank dew
#

@umbral blaze if you're new, I'd suggest you check the pinned guides over at #classic-questions

umbral blaze
#

👍

jade prism
jade prism
icy parcel
past urchin
#

Ferael for anti-heal if you have one.

drowsy gazelle
#

you need someone to burst/cc them. ferael,tasi are viable choice. and if youre willing to try, throw grez in there, if grez can survive then he can kill tree guy faster than daimon can

raw rune
karmic dune
#

Anyone got suggestions?

vagrant olive
# karmic dune

wukong away; rosa on his spot and put tasi in aswell (then you'll have a little extra health aswell)

pale kettle
#

Do I even have 3 good formations here for legends challenger? I have 1 lineup as lucius, tasi, rosaline, gwyneth, and belinda, but no idea for the other two

trim fjord
pale kettle
#

Ah whoops forgot I have a brightness filter on, it's 3 am rn lmao

bleak rain
#

Any idea ? Best time is 16 sec 🥲

raw rune
#

try eironn instead of arthur

bleak rain
#

Gonna give it a shot, thanks !

sudden flower
#

So i got
Shemira mythic + lyca mythic and eiron 1 star
As main characters
Wanted to know who to look for to add in team,
Thinking tasi as 4th character and have no idea about 5th one
Any help who to have in team as 4 and 5th characters? Currently at chapter 16. (id like to use f2p friendly chars)

raw rune
#

Can you take a screenshot of your whole roster @sudden flower

sudden flower
raw rune
#

ok, reset everyone but eironn to lv140 @sudden flower and level him up as much as possible. Also consider using him mid backline he's much better there. Consider removing shemira from your team when you can, she won't add much, a better mage to use with him is safiya but skriath also works if you get his 3/9 furniture. Also stop getting stuff to legendary without getting them to legendary+, it's a waste of fodder that could be used on something else that has more copies. Try and build daimon asap in gb, tasi is fine to build before lyca, and work on either safiya or skriath (safiya is the safer one). Also definitely put that brutus on crystal, he has a ton of use in campaign. Also I'd recommend you adjust your tavern wishlist to the pinned guide in #classic-questions

eternal mountain
sudden flower
maiden marsh
sudden flower
#

@raw rune also at what point should i swap in tasi safiya and daimon when i get them to legend +? Cuz tasi gets one shot instantly

pale kettle
#

Any tips ? Silvina and Isabella are dealing way too much damage

eternal mountain
maiden marsh
eternal mountain
#

I finished it already ☺️

raw rune
# sudden flower <@276765444268883969> also at what point should i swap in tasi safiya and daimon...

eironn either eye or call, whichever works better in the stage. Start working on your mythic gear, even legendary+ heroes can live with some gear,especially tasi. Daimon you can start using when you get him Mythic +20 signature item. Tasi start using asap. Safiya is mainly there for the pyramid, so she should be fine at l+ as long as she isn't targeted at the start. But brutus and/or alna can definitely be slotted in there. You can change lyca tasi daimon depending on stage

hollow turtle
pale kettle
empty jasper
empty jasper
# pale kettle

I dont know what stage your trying to do but judging from the lack of elite+ compared to elites im guessing your using ascended heroes to make your legendaries, dont do this. Wait to make legendaries with fodders, then later make legendaries with your ascended when you have enough dupes or youll get locked out later

pale kettle
#

no no no

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im using elites to make my legendaries i think i got a bit lucky

empty jasper
#

Ah ok, you havent used ascended ones then?

pale kettle
#

wait do u mean when ive ascended heroes at the temple of ascension

empty jasper
#

Ascended heroes are heroes that start at elite rarity when you get them

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Fodder are heroes that start at rare

pale kettle
#

ive been getting loads of rare shards so ive been summonin gheroes which i am then upgrading

empty jasper
#

Alright then, for now focus on only making your fodder legendary+ untill you have 4+ dupes of an ascended hero

pale kettle
#

ah ok

empty jasper
#

If you dont youll be stuck with tons of legendaries later, and be sitting in campaign for awhile

maiden marsh
empty jasper
#

^^^

chrome halo
sweet badger
pale kettle
#

Any ways to deal with Isabella ? She deals a mind-numbing amount of damage (1 million whereas the rest of the ennemies does 150k)

raw rune
pale kettle
#

Problem with Nara is that i loose the faction bonus if i use her, then Rowan dies instantly and so does Lucius

pale kettle
drowsy finch
#

Any ideas with this one?

lean zodiac
#

How did u get to 17 with that line up

pale kettle
#

Why you people don't have Nara at that point...

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Tasi and Rowan elite+ 🥺

lean zodiac
#

Idk what she good for

pale kettle
#

She can CC enemy for 3 seconds and thats works so good against Ferael

lean zodiac
#

Thst is pretty good

#

I been using my same line up for ages only changed 1 so can’t complain

drowsy finch
#

I dont really have a main line up lol that was from switching stuff around

#

I dont really have the best luck with the better heros rip

velvet belfry
# drowsy finch

how is lucius doing? is he living long enough to make an impact?

lean zodiac
#

Wareks a beast

drowsy finch
#

He can ult once and then he dies

velvet belfry
#

just replace him with lyca or brutus then and see if that gets you anywhere

drowsy finch
#

Alright sounds good

velvet belfry
#

lyca is probably the best adjustment there, brutus is just to use his shield passive to buy time for belinda

#

raine and fawkes could also give some ok support here if you wanna experiment with them

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and another idea would be lyca/lucius rather than lyca/estrilda. play around with it. e+ heroes are definitely still viable in chapter 17, i beat 16 and 17 with stuff like e+ tasi, nara, flora and vurk

proud edge
#

@stuck trellis pippi do you have your 31-4 ss?

raw rune
brazen spear
#

Is oden good?

drowsy finch
#

Finally beat 17-24 with
Fawkes
Belinda
Lyca
Lucius
Rowan
Just took me a bunch of retires lmao

brazen spear
brazen spear
strange dune
proud edge
reef drum
bleak rain
steady blaze
proud edge
steady blaze
#

Ok I’ll try that out

#

Didn’t work, she moves to the front of the line where Rowan is

proud edge
steady blaze
#

Bedo chalice, Ainz Blade, lyca Blade, Rowan and Tasi call

proud edge
lofty cairn
proud edge
#

Or frontline mirael, remove thoran, put rowan center back, add rosa

lofty cairn
#

@proud edge na ive daimon works better recently but i havent tried it for this stage so ill try all your suggestions

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ah yeah it worked, probably situational depending on how fast rosa dies

proud edge
#

Ayy nice!

stuck trellis
#

@proud edge not sure how helpful this will be since it was before antandra change, but there u go

stuck trellis
#

yep

proud edge
#

That's what I'm considering

woeful matrix
pale kettle
pale kettle
#

Lmao. My Nara is not strong enough and absolutely agreed

mild geyser
#

you just need nara to pull mehira before her bats spawn

woeful matrix
rare jewel
proud edge
maiden marsh
rare jewel
maiden marsh
#

👍

dire cape
worthy steeple
worthy steeple
#

Can I get some help please?

summer cedar
#

I have no idea what you're asking. what game mode?

worthy steeple
summer cedar
#

expect to lose on defense as attackers have significant adv. for LC you only need 2 teams. the third team is largely irrelevant, which also means you should still expect to lose by virtue of having a throwaway team.
that said, it'll be easier if u just posted ur full box

worthy steeple
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Alright give me one moment

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And also, I won one with my throwaeay, so its now all throwaway

pale kettle
summer cedar
pale kettle
#

Yeah

summer cedar
worthy steeple
#

Here is my box and crystal... i can switch out heroes if I need to

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Main reason I'm asking is becasue I dont know how synergies work, and I was looking for some tips

summer cedar
#

I'd try to get daimon to 20 asap
daimon has synergy with stall and cc. so does ainz. they need a bit of time to get rolling and then they do work

worthy steeple
#

I have daimon +19

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I would get +20, but i was told not to get goldstiltdus

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Also, I'm asking cuz I dont know what stall and cc means

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And I dont know which heroes do that. All I Know is Ains and Daimon are in different teams in multi-team

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And cc is stuff like Tasi sleep, charm, and skraith?

summer cedar
#

something like
albedo talene ainz rowan arden
brutus thoran daimon nara lyca
and whatever for the 3rd team.
questions like what stall and cc are belong in #classic-questions

worthy steeple
#

Arden at 140?

summer cedar
#

why would he be 140?

worthy steeple
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Hes not in crystal... i meant 240

pale monolith
#

His max lvl is 140

worthy steeple
#

Non crystal heroes are capped at 240 in challengers

summer cedar
# lofty cairn

id get aren to 141 asap. consider swapping talene for lyca or just afk some more

lofty cairn
#

@summer cedar arden hardly ever works how do i make him work better

summer cedar
#

arden's max is 160 tho? whatthefawkes and yes throw him in crystal

pale monolith
#

You don't he's a Legendary+ tier hero so you can't stick with him for long

lofty cairn
#

oh i posted the wrong box

maiden marsh
lofty cairn
summer cedar
lofty cairn
#

ah ok that makes sense, who would i replace?

summer cedar
#

oh u have a brutus. nvm stick brutus frontline. mirael loves having brutus tank everything

worthy steeple
summer cedar
#

triple root is fantastic. also, your rowan is purple, but he's still good. asc don't make or break every hero

worthy steeple
#

Who do I replace In my crustal... I'm keeping good TR heroes in for that reason

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And I'm saving a spot for when I get wareek, also for TR and guild hunt

summer cedar
#

it's a little early to have raine in there. sorry but baden is garbage
shem shud also be removed. if she's not your carry and isn't Ascended, she's kinda useless. u can merc a better one for TR.

worthy steeple
#

I merc saurus for everything though

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Any suggestions as to who i should add from my box? I'm assuming Alna might be one

summer cedar
#

TR stages that use saurus do not overlap with TR stage that uses shem (which is only evil nemora)

worthy steeple
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Oh, okie... thank your for telling me

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So, Saurus and Shem mercs... neither In crystal, or can I keep saurus and just take shem Out?

summer cedar
#

thoran arden lyca. this is also #classic-questions territory and I need to start a lab report so they can help

worthy steeple
#

Okie, thank chu

#

I didntbknow crystal counted for questions... I apreciate your help

maiden marsh
worthy steeple
#

I have Lyca in Crystal already,

worthy steeple
worthy steeple
#

I guess I'm not allowed to ask for help anymore...

errant sapphire
peak stratus
feral eagle
#

Okie, I edited my teams based on what someone told me... is there amy suggestions someonr can give me, or is this as Good as I'll get currently
@worthy steeple swap numisu in team 1 instead of talene, get nara backmid on #2, get talene in team 3. Ngl not much you can do, maybe people will get baited by team 3 because of celepog

worthy steeple
#

Is arden worth having?

feral eagle
#

He is since he brings good cc, but people can counter him easily with nara/athalia

worthy steeple
#

and i can show my box if theres other heroes i should use instead

feral eagle
#

Esp since you can have yourself a lvl 256 arden during the martial rating challenger

worthy steeple
#

But afterwards hes not worth it?

feral eagle
#

Once he goes back to 160 you can take him out yeah. As a general advice I'd suggest you to hcp 3 copies of rowan asap

worthy steeple
#

I'm trying!

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Game refuses to give me rowan, period

feral eagle
#

You have 1 ascended hero right?

worthy steeple
#

I just got him e+ yesturday

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I have 2 now, Belinda and Daimon

#

Who can I replace arden with when he goes off the cap?

#

Also, Should I link Albedo to Gwenyth or Safiya? Who will I end up using more at Mythic

feral eagle
#

You could get twin in

worthy steeple
#

Twins e+?

feral eagle
#

I think so

worthy steeple
#

I'll try that... also, if I do Numisu in comp 1, does that force rowan frontline?

feral eagle
#

Also, Should I link Albedo to Gwenyth or Safiya? Who will I end up using more at Mythic
@worthy steeple keep the link on safiya you won't need her till later on for pve

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As long as numisu use his 2nd skill on ainz buffing his haste he can die, Frontline won't really matter ig

worthy steeple
#

Okie... so Twins when Arden is off cap, Numisu instead of talene, nara mid-backline, and talen in third comp. Any other tips, like who I could Add if i can get them?

feral eagle
#

Arthur would be a good fit in comp 1, comp 2 is mostly solid, team 3 really wack, but as of now you can't really do better on 3, maybe get lucretia out for someone else

worthy steeple
#

Lucretia stays... she won me a game

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she prevented me going to plat 3

#

I'm working on getting arthur right now. need 45 shards to go. Is cecil or Gwenyth better for team three than drez?

feral eagle
#

@worthy steeple gwyn need a strong Frontline and is easily counterable in pvp so I wouldn't count on her.

worthy steeple
#

I never do anywaysturbongosolise

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Cecilia is actually really good cc? Should I use her, or keep what I have

feral eagle
#

Cecilia has no cc, mostly used on attack to reduce attack of one enemy in front of her

worthy steeple
#

Oh, thats how it works? I thought circle did reduce attack to all enemies in it?

feral eagle
#

Oh, thats how it works? I thought circle did reduce attack to all enemies in it?
@worthy steeple yep, but that's not exactly cc imo

worthy steeple
#

Oh, okie

#

Is she worth using curently, or no?

#

I really appreciate your help @feral eagle... if you need anything in return, I'll try

pale kettle
feral eagle
#

Is she worth using curently, or no?
@worthy steeple I'd say no. Also if you ha e ezizh getting him in ainz comp makes more sence than twins I guess, no worries for the help, the more you advance through the game the easier it. Will be for you to set up actual teams.

sudden flower
#

@raw rune ok thanks for help

worthy steeple
#

so use Ezizh in ains comp? is Alna worth having E? and can I use her anywhere?

gilded dome
gritty lagoon
paper basin
mild geyser
mild geyser
#

whats not clear

gilded dome
mild geyser
#
  1. rng exists
  2. lucius isnt a nara replacment
gilded dome
#

Well I don't have a Nara replacement if you can't find something in my party I posted lol

mild geyser
#

well i can only see 12 heroes

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you can also use an e nara as long as she pulls tasi in before banish

paper basin
#

Could use erionn as nara replacement

#

The drag has a similar impact

mild geyser
#

true that also would work if it stops the banish

maiden marsh
gilded dome
#

E+ Nara works even worse than Lucius :0

mild geyser
#

@maiden marsh switch rowan and tasi and maybe try ferael instead of tasi if tasi doesnt work

maiden marsh
#

gotcha

wispy tartan
mild geyser
#

yea you might not need eironn if ferael can fear before the hypo mage uses his backline attack and the enemy feraels fear

gilded dome
summer cedar
# maiden marsh <@!108647491112550400>

try tasi rowan lyca fera daimon. it's my go-to for most stages. problem is ur tasi lacks SI as does eironn. those matter way more than levels do. and rowan shud be frontlining most of the time anyway

maiden marsh
#

thanks for the suggestions guys!

gilded dome
#

I got thanks,,,

foggy grove
#

What should my second line up be for campaign? I’m using pull 5 comp for first line up

summer cedar
#

daimon fera

serene tulip
edgy musk
#

I tried turning my lucius into lvl 220 so he had more hp before but it wont work

summer cedar
#

try lucius brutus shem rowan lyca

edgy musk
#

Should i turn my lucius into lvl 220 again?

#

The lucius died after one shemira laser thing even after being level 220

jagged pike
pale kettle
#

I need line up help

loud musk
#

Stage 15 last boss btw

young summit
floral minnow
merry thunder
#

Is anyone here stage 35+ lol

#

*32 not 35

lime quiver
#

What do you need

merry thunder
#

I’ve tried about 300+ attempts at this @lime quiver

lime quiver
#

What stage is it?

merry thunder
#

32-6

lime quiver
#

Oh I don't have a screenshot of it, but I either done it with Izold comp or eironn skriath, and looking at Tasi I've probably done it with Izold comp

#

Try
Nara

Rowan
Tasi
Izold
Lyca

strong comet
merry thunder
#

@lime quiver main issue is izold dying before he can ult

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@strong comet who does silvina kill?

lime quiver
#

Try
Tasi

Rowan
Lyca
Nara
Izold

strong comet
lime quiver
#

You need Izold Lyca Tasi rowan and a filler for single stages Izold comps, try moving him around until he can start snowballing

merry thunder
#

@strong comet who’s killing your team

strong comet
#

It’s a massacre dude

lime quiver
#

Use rowan instead of eironn

strong comet
#

Doesn’t help much

lime quiver
#

That team is bad for belinda as grezhul gives magical damage mitigation and golus gets tankier when his health is low

strong comet
#

So I should take her out?

merry thunder
#

Try your lyca instead of Belinda @strong comet

lime quiver
#

I don't know, you don't have a decent eironn comp, you could try
Tasi

Talene
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca

strong comet
#

That worked, thank you

empty jasper
merry thunder
#

@summer cedar thnx

#

Damn it I don’t have albedo 😦 guess I wait till mercs come out haha

summer cedar
#

there are other lineups including mine. scroll down @merry thunder

merry thunder
#

Ayy you’re worked ❤️ @summer cedar

vapid field
twin dove
#

Light vs grave??

vapid field
#

It's the light tower?
Floor 70

twin dove
#

Oh lol

icy parcel
#

Faction advantage is irrelevant 90% of the time

twin dove
#

Try
Rose

Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Gwen

#

Swap gwen and estrilda to other side if it doesn't work

vapid field
#

That worked after about 15 tries lol
That floor seems crazy for so low

merry thunder
jolly quest
#

Anyone know the ideal arena placement for the Ainz/Albedo/Rowan/Twins/Ezizh comp?

languid pier
languid pier
#

🤮

ebon hazel
#

Anyone able to help?

#

Ping me

woeful matrix
uneven dock
dusky lion
# woeful matrix <@!263207160266096640> any suggestions

You’re going to transition from wukong to mirael + Rosaline, but you can keep on using wukong for now since you have E+ and he caps at 120. He’ll probably be a decent tank for the time being. Level mirael to as high as you can and ascend her to L+, she even served as a frontline when you’re over leveled.

Arden is going to be op, especially when he hits 141. Decent support to throw in. Think Rowan will serve well in your lineup, and You can try lyca for the haste, or Tasi for the banish/cc. Early game it’s going to be a lot of moving stuff around and retrying to see what works but that’s whY I’d do.

dusky lion
# uneven dock Best lineup for burning broot?

Not sure, I think you’re best bet is check the top legends teams and try to copy what one you can. Watch the replay to see when and who they ult. Early on it’s hard to have the meta heroes built

vapid field
woeful matrix
dusky lion
#

That’s really going to depend on each battle. Early on you’ll retry stuff that shouldn’t work and yet that’s what gets you the win. I’d do wukong up front, and if mirael is 40 levels ahead like she should be and you’re using her then I’d try her up front too. I’d have Rowan behind her to give potion, Rosaline 1 over and then your next support behind wukong. But in theory sure in practicality it may be something totally different. Not really a one size fits all. Even now for me there’s the picture lineup but that doesn’t always win. You have to move stuff around when you fail to see what’s happening and how to fix it

woeful matrix
dusky lion
#

Mirael and Arden for fodder in LB and wilder respectively, the other 2 idk if there’s much difference. I just chose what I could ascend easily but maybe someone is more useful. I didn’t end up using them aside from leveling for crustal

gaunt umbra
karmic dune
oblique fractal
#

Hey guys, cosmi playing today and I would like to know how many times I can do with these characters

pale monolith
grand widget
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Is it worth buying emblem choice with challenger coins. I have max and would like to spend some since some are expiring in mail. I can’t buy Ezizh since I won’t have enough for the dims

pale monolith
pale kettle
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I've had a really hard time winning much of my legends challenger matches. Do I even have enough characters for 3 synergetic/good formations? My main team is Gwyn/rose/lucius/tasi/belinda but no clue for the other two, or if separating them would lead to better teams. They all normalize to lvl 250 if that matters

grand widget
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@pale monolith yeah I mean emblem choice chests aren’t really my problem but my challenger coins are maxed out.

spice iris
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Rosa will always go to savaes

languid pier
spice iris
fallen canopy
languid pier
arctic flax
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i need help :')

languid pier
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so do I, I am literally sobbing

arctic flax
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cant beat this been on it for a few weeks :')

languid pier
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belinda out, brutus on rowan place

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also u dont need 3 carries dud

arctic flax
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who's considered a carry?

languid pier
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shemi beli and daimon, I suggest you stop invensting in belinda and shemira

arctic flax
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bit too late xD

languid pier
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give up on them, use them as links literally
go all in on daimon and build team around him

arctic flax
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cant shem be around him tho?

languid pier
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shes garbage ch23+, shes turbo good early game only - rest no no

arctic flax
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who is better than her

languid pier
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daimon is best shit ever man

arctic flax
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dude

arctic flax
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i used so many of those graveborn red skill things on her

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shes nearly maxed like level 27

languid pier
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you shouldnt have, mistakes broski - big mistakes - but better stop now

arctic flax
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so i have to use budget one?

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somehow get a nara

languid pier
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if you have E+ alna you can go with first one or something similar

arctic flax
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whos alna?

languid pier
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black skin lady above daimon

arctic flax
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oh

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i dont own her

languid pier
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you're lucky you have daimon ascended so dnt think all is lost

arctic flax
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i used alot of diamonds to get him tho

languid pier
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no regrets!

arctic flax
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from the 3000 for a roll thing

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so synergies dont matter when u play diamon??

languid pier
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ofc they do

arctic flax
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the budget one doesnt have any..

languid pier
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alna is celestial

arctic flax
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shes not in the budget one.

lost tendon
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how does one disable Silvina? as in, which hero is a hard counter to her? 8-24 has been kicking my ass for 3 days now 😦 Vedan turning into bats also cost me once

pale kettle
lost tendon
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so i need to get lucky and pull her. sucks, but thanks

pale kettle
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You can try making her focus someone you dont care about or outheal her dmg

lost tendon
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kinda hard to do with level 100 heroes. if i manage to kill her, Vedan becomes perma immune to damage because he keeps on turning into bats forever until everyone's dead... i guess i'll just stay here for a few more days i guess..

pale kettle
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What's your lineup

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Try eirom top backline

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Just dies this one stage just everyone dies insta but before i did well

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Lyca shoulsnt be in front of kaz

languid pier
lost tendon
# pale kettle What's your lineup

sorry for taking a bit, had lunch. very basic lineup, my account is 7 days old today. i also have about 100 summons saved up and i will get Talene in two days from War of Wits, so if she would help a lot, i can wait another two days i suppose

simple skiff
pale monolith
hidden kraken
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Can i get a lineup for 30-60?

lost tendon
steel patrol
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Anyone have useful info on Respen yet?

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I’m tempted to try and get more copies of him.

pale kettle
wheat gate
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Help... me

gleaming viper
jagged pike
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1st team: frontline: thoran talene
Backline: fawkes nara rosaline

2nd team: frontline: tasi arthur
Backline: mehira nemora fereal

3rd team: frontline: arthur albedo
Backline: ainz twins daimon

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Just suggestions they probably wont work

vagrant olive
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3rd team: frontline: arthur albedo
Backline: ainz twins daimon
Just suggestions they probably wont work <-- probably they do; but I would put nakoruru in there instead of daimon

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talene/albedo front line: ainz, arthur and nakorur backline - perhaps

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remove talene if you wanna create a lock-out team for against ainz 😉

vagrant olive
# wheat gate

upgrade rowan's SI to 30 ASAP; but you might wanna try: saurus brutus @ frontline and shemira, rowan and tasi backline

raw niche
vagrant olive
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tried ainz instead of daimon/

raw niche
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No, I don't use ainz. He's too squishy and I dont have mage gear upped

vagrant olive
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and belinda's

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i think massive damage helps here

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otherwise try replacing lucius with saurus; he heals

raw niche
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Belle dies in 1 hit lol
T1 gear is not good

vagrant olive
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swap it with shemira's?

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and what are your M(+) heroes?

raw niche
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Gwyneth

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Gearless gwyneth

vagrant olive
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could be usefull: tasi/saurus frontline: lyca, eironn, rowan backline

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i mean gwyn instead of rowan

raw niche
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Tasi is L+ lmao

vagrant olive
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go upgrade your heroes 🙂

raw niche
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Face it, I'm doomed

vagrant olive
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nah should be doable - 100+ level caps are easy to be done (though esspecially when SI and furniture are build)

raw niche
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I could try getting daimon to 30

vagrant olive
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helps allot

raw niche
vagrant olive
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well waterboy is food @ wilders...

past urchin
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Saurus frontline against 3 Maulers including 2 bulldozer tanks?

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Good luck with that.

vagrant olive
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i just noticed he doesn't have si30 - otherwise it would be very doable

raw niche
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Waterboy is not food

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He's a dim link

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Who is also e+ because he's not in my wl

raw niche
vagrant olive
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they both need tobe si30 anyway

raw niche
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Yeah well I only have 200 red chests so far, and I don't spend money so it's only one for now

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300 once I claim event red chests

vagrant olive
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rowan needs to be your first si30 IMHO!

raw niche
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He IS 30

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His gear is just not fully maxed

vagrant olive
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i shall order some glasses 🙂 anyway i'm not sure who would be a better first: daimon or fereal... - perhaps focus on eironn aswell

warm girder
empty jasper
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I hate grezhul

empty jasper
empty jasper
warm girder
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Rowan EQ is all T2 with Sig +30. Well i will try with Ainz but he is literally sig+10 and 2/9 furniture

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Daimon is at +29, missing 15 stones for +30...

hard merlin
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Who to use and ehance

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Help please

low ravine
hard merlin
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Are elites not worth it? Ty

empty jasper
low ravine
dull trellis
low apex
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30-44 is hell on earth

reef drum
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Hey guys any ideas please?

low apex
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Tried that comp countless times , at least over 500 and I’m higher level 😦 rngesus is not with me

proud edge
hasty nest
hasty nest
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for who and where tho?

proud edge
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lyca or sav probably

slow mirage
frigid eagle
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not sure who to gaze after talene and twins tbh. mehira? zolrath? lucretia? any tips are welcome
slowmode memeing me lineup inc.

lethal rivet
frigid eagle
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huh upload keeps failing

autumn totem
boreal ingot
boreal ingot
boreal ingot
autumn totem
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I don't have raine, will be working on her. Do i need to have her at a specific point for her to be good against soren?

autumn totem
lethal rivet
boreal ingot
autumn totem
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so to use her non merc i'd have to ascend her. good to know. Mercing it is lol

summer cedar
warm girder
boreal ingot
lethal rivet
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i was able to get it eventually with good tidus rng

proud edge
languid pier
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help

worthy steeple
lethal rivet
icy parcel
sullen narwhal
twin dove
iron fiber
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How do i beat this stage with these heroes

boreal ingot
stuck trellis
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@boreal ingot hmmm. alright copy this round 2, then do some eironn or ainz team for r1

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since rowan is open, shouldnt be too bad to make something up

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then for r3 you could run a team with saurus twins in it

languid pier
stuck trellis
boreal ingot
languid pier
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even when alna gets to activate immunity i get blown up

stuck trellis
languid pier
pale kettle
stuck trellis
languid pier
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rowan is full t2 and he gets blown up xd

stuck trellis
# pale kettle ideas?

can you screenshot the thing that shows all your units used (icon with the two arrows)

stuck trellis
viral birch
stuck trellis
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@pale kettle since your daimon is strong and your ainz is weak, you would probaby be better off using daimon for round 2, and maybe moving rowan to round 1 if you have no skriath with 3 furniture

stuck trellis
languid pier
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thanks for trying to help at least m8, good to see someone actually helping after hole day of desert

pale kettle
daring wedge
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I'm finding this version of the Misty Valley extremely hard (100+ tries to finish some levels) and I'm wondering if I leveled too much? If so, what are my options?

languid pier
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give up on it

daring wedge
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That's one option, for sure. @languid pier How would ascertain if I've leveled too much?

languid pier
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get a good merc or something ._.

young ice
cerulean cedar
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stuck on 18-40 as well

pale monolith
cerulean cedar
pale monolith
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You have Fawkes?

cerulean cedar
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ye but he really squishy even when i put my best gear on him

pale monolith
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You have to find a spot where he gets to survive a bit, but I'm not seeing it because of the Arden, Brutus in front of Niru might be able to buy you some more time,also you want Rowan to super so he can quickly recharge Daimon's and Belinda's ultimates, so I'm not sure if him being front row is the best. Try to find a way where Rowan survives enough so he can ult

cerulean cedar
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@pale monolith arden roots daimon and chips a good amount of health and roots Rowan right before he gets enough energy + rowan drinks his own energy potion. I think my current best bet is to wait until merc reset

pale monolith
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I figured out that, Arden can be quiet annyoing

sullen narwhal
iron tree
young summit
young ice
cerulean cedar
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ight

pulsar crest
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any suggestions? wanted to win this before reset to get gaze cards

cerulean cedar
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reset is in 2 hours you should be fine, but my best guess is to have Skreg against estrilda. I don't really know anything else

iron tree
cerulean cedar
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please don't spam this channel but Daimon is a great choice

iron tree
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nah bruh no one responds

summer cedar
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because it doesn't belong here. it's not a lineup question. move to #classic-questions and stop spamming

fossil solar
boreal ingot
stuck trellis
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r2 is the hardest fight in this multi

vapid field
boreal ingot
twin dove
wintry sierra
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I really need help on this stage

rare umbra
languid pier
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nara

brutus
rowan
talene
tasi

maybe?

mild geyser
lime quiver
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Yeah, khasos is the mauler tower 80 hero

crystal osprey
pale kettle
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Yo I just got the game recently what should I do at the beginning I’m very bad any tips are appreciated

simple skiff
fallow ruin
lean kindle
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Hello

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Can you help me choosing a good team for daimon

maiden marsh
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though even not using her as a carry, she's just a healbot at E, you'd want other, more reliable (and buildable) support to work on

fallow ruin
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Well I have izold or Daimon as a carry

maiden marsh
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daimon is certainly your best option here, granted you can get his copies. izold doesn't work well before ascended 30SI and 3F, whereas daimon works at mythic +20