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Hey guys what are the best lineups for Respen campaign 29+ , floor 350+ tower, or pvp?
Need help any ideas or tips
I need help
What is the best line up to push through chapter 26? I'm stuck
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alright lets go through the basic thought process you wanna have while making lineups
Is my lineup to low level?
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If you're higher level than the enemy you are definitely not too low
issue I see is your dps is the lowest level among ur team, should be the other way around
first of all, whos causing all the issues when you try to beat the stage @manic ravine
is it vurk deleting your team too fast? is it fera making your team unable to ult?
I think vurk sometimes kills my guys too fast. I don't seem to see tasi being an issue. Ferael could be lowering my haste. But if I use ainz comp, he does get an ult off. But too late and it doesn't one shot ferael and vurk. And brutes will just proceed to clean up
Yeaa I’m tryna level up Belinda
Daimon comp is worse. Everything just dies.
I just had her at e+
and who does tasi banish if you use her (u should really have her in crystal btw)
you dont need to "try", go pay 20 diamonds, reset Silvina and use the exp to level belinda up to 160
@stuck trellis brutus. Yeah I had her there but I kept tinkering and she was left out of crystal due to timer
Dumped my ainz comp to try this. But didn't work
okay, so there are 3 problem units here then. fera, whos disrupting your team, vurk, whos doing a ton of damage, and brutus, who lives for a long time and also does a lot of damage.
now lets look at your positioning there.
you have tasi, who will blink away after getting hit, or just die instantly, and you have fera, who is a squishy support unit behind her. this means that when you start the battle, tasi gets hit, she blinks away, and leaves fera completely exposed
the two units who do the most damage on their team according to you, brutus and vurk, are on the top side. but you essentially are leaving that side completely exposed, which lets them run through your team and kill everything quickly
since fera is the one who is keeping your team alive in the first few seconds with his fear, you really dont want him to be exposed like that
so you see the problems there right
Yeah I get that
now lets think about how we can deal with that. rene gave you these units as a reccomdation to use with daimon : Rowan tasi/lyca/fera/thoran
Yeah I tried tasi lyca fera. I just tried to swap ferael and tasi down. It looks like my front line gets wiped too quickly
right the frontline is getting wiped too quickly. so by putting a tankier unit such as rowan/brutus across brutus and vurk, your frontline ends up living much longer
rowan is a dodge unit, and he also has an ability where he can become immune to some of hte damage taken
that leads to him being a very effective frontliner
brutus lives for like 8 seconds, so he would also be much more effective to use there instead of lyca who dies in 3 seconds
Yeah but if by any chance daimon goes off, his ult doesn't do much.
we solved the problem of your top side being exposed and dying instantly, now the issue is keeping daimon alive and having tasi + rowan ult to start the cc chain
when u look at that SS, you see that tasi and fera, who are in positions 3 and 5, are completely untoched.
so u know that when rowan is tanking the damage, those two positions become safe
so daimon, who you want alive, would go in one of those slots
so going back to this point, we solved one of the three problems. by having rowan tank brutus, theres enough time for tasi to banish him + rowan tanks him very well, so we dont have to worry about him too much anymore
now you want to stop fera and vurk from doing a ton of damage. since tasi doesnt banish any of them, you need to rely on ferael's fear, tasi's ult, and rowan's ult to stun them and keep the fight going
cause of that, you want tasi to ult as fast as possible, and you want ferael in a safe position so he can fear and apply his debuffs
if we look back at the screenshot, lyca has died. that means damage is coming her way. we also see that daimon is nearly dead, so we know positions 2 and 4 arent safe
we also know that units gain energy when they get, meaning units who are taking lots of damage will ult quicker. so by having tasi in the frontline tanking golus, she would ult quicker, and you would be close to solving the vurk/fera problem
Hmm interesting analysis. Let me test abit
you said you hadnt used Daimon much before this right? see, Daimon isn't a Burst hero like Ainz, he borrows stats from the enemy when using his shield, then is able to deal quite good single target damage with normal attacks, plus he recovers 150% of the damage he has received on the last 9 seconds.
As long as the enemy cant overcome the Shield + Daimon HP in 9 seconds you should win, key point is not being attacked by all 5 enemies at the same time, you want to distract some enemies and get some early kills in order to diminish damage income.
Top diversions are Thoran/Brutus or Talene, do you got any of those?
I need some help?
Is your main carry Daimon or Eironn
you are 6 levels below the enemy, you Shouldnt have much trouble, got Safiya? she is huge help for Eiron, then add Lyca for haste and some tanks so Hogan/Estrilda dont bother you much
Im 40-80 levels behind the enemy
who is your carry? I need better deficit friends for replays
So Eirron or Daimon
also put Eiron in the top position, get away from saveas
I use eironn
I'd suggest you use
Shemira/ Damion
Lucius
Eironn
Brutus
Fawkes
You need Brutus for his shield to protect Fawkes which coffins up Saveas or the wheel guy, with the main damage dealer out of the way it should be easy
Oof
Help 😔
Everyone but Lucius and eironn dies lmfao
THE POINT IS FOR FAWKES TO SURVIVE
I KNOW THAT LMFAO he just kinda like dies you know lol I guess I gotta wait for some food for him now
No he can aurvive in a positon because there is no Anthalia, no Hypogean Mage,no nothing to target back line
@stuck trellis tasi at the front to build energy dies too fast. And I just feel the enemy is building up energy way faster than me. Getting rowan to ult seems impossible
@karmic mortar You can also try using Cecilia on Saveas
Front or back?
i need some help on 26-48 i dont have discord on my phone but i can tell you what i got
Damn I guess I’m just trash or underleveled or both cause I die 100% of the time lol
Thanks for the help tho
Any help is appreciated
help me with 26 48 LOL, 1 Skreg 2 Diamon 3 Eironn 4 Rowan 5 Silus
Should I change positioning?
@icy parcel I actually used him after 160 to 200 as my carry. I have talene thoran etc. But I find thoran not that good a distraction as he diverts enemies away from once he triggers. Brutus is better in a way they will still continue to attack him through the immunity
Actually no, You only have to put it in manual and i would consider using Rowan instead of Grezul. U need to ult 1 time with Rowan (manually) and all the other times with Saurus
This boss has a limited ults he can take on so you need to play it safe and use only Saurus ults and Rowan once to actually make it worth it 🙂
Thanks. I could get to dia 2 at most. Lets see if I can push to dia 1. I dont know much about this new boss, just checked Legend teams
No worry I got D2 with a friends help 🙂
@slow mirage Could you help me with that? 🙂 #lineup-help message
then thats a 4th problem with golus(I'm assuming?) doing too much damage
you can deal with that by cc'ing him harder, or by moving tasi and putting a tankier unit in that slot like we did with rowan
that could involve taking lyca out for something like brutus if u can fit within power req, or just frontlining lyca and having her be a meatshield
Any can help with 3 team formation arena?
i got dia 1 with ainz comp lel
Hello can i get help with my team,nim not sure what to ascend and my heroes are max, ive got 40 factional scrolls which i mightbuse lightbearers or graveborns..?
I die in seconds no matter the combination (also ik about the ascension stuff I'm not trying to play too seriously)
Hard stuck here and have no idea what to dooooo
@stuck trellis I got closer with this line up. Rowan gets off his ult. Best result was all enemies dead except brutus because of his stupid immunity
Am I just stuck until I get better upgrades?
@gilded dome try tasi front and replace Brutus with safiya Backline
@gilded dome take out Brutus, put nemora backline instead. Or try with Belinda backline so she can boost Daimon
What to do?
Any advice?
Reckon I should go graveborn woth my faction scrolls, try get that daimon happening? Or go else where with my account?
I've also been told to possibly focus on Brutus & Mireal to help progression
Realistically I probably wont get much from 30 pulls but I'm trying to save up all gems & scrolls from event and pull when it ends. Should make some headway then
Stuck at 23-60. Any help would be appreciated.
try talene instead of queen
it should work but if it by some mysterious reason doesnt then tasi instead of queen
and u want to put rowan in spot 2 or 5 so he can stun thane
preferably spot 2 if his si is high enough for him to dodge
no worries what made it work?
Used talene and Rowan got the stun up front. Gave my Ainz enough time to get a double Ult.
perfect and yes talene is very good in this comp to keep ur team alive
Help
maybe u could put lucius in there instead of ferael. Should be helpful
rowan in 4 talene in 5 or 3. Lucius in 2 shemira 1 for example
I need fereal to stop the enemy fereal's fear so i can get anything done
well if u really want to counter ferael then u should use nemora and charm their ferael
and a banisher like tasi/fawkes is good against enemy shemira teams
Faweks doesnt do anything due to fereal same thing with tasi and nemora doesnt get her charm off by the time she dies
u should retry couple of times since most times rng and a nemora e+ will charm ferael eventually
fawkes is just used to coffin shemira
Whats a good pvp comp with what I have?
Whoever made stage 15-40 should be fired
Yeah i know but he doesnt do it cause of fereal
reposition him he dont need energy to do it. And it will get a lot worse in the future
this stage took me ages
So I just got a lot of wilders from my pull session what should line up be? I hit a wall in chapter 6 :/
Hes too low level there to be disgusting.
Wait for when he's >221
@pale kettle
Who should I put to L+ first ? I'm playing a lot with Belinda Lucius Rowan Rosa and aa 2nd tank. Can't really seem to find who to replace to use Fawkes or Raine
(Also I have a red chest that would allow me to have another lucius or 10 faction scrolls, other choices are meh since I don't have them in multiple copies)
Any suggestions?
oh trust me i've been dealing with 260 fereals i know the strugg xD
Fun isnt it xD
it's just the worst thing ever i literally most of the time use my merc for that and then push a chapter if there is no fereal in sight xD
Lvl260 ferael? Arent u at chap15/16?
Need help. I cannot beat this floor and it's the only one I am missing to complete so I could obtain all my 5 main heroes mythical gear (quest for 80 floors beaten on all 4) any help?
Ps. Vurks deal at least 700k dmg no matter what config
use a merc?
I should have 1 more slot free but no clue which one would work on this setup
Welp these are my options
add me ill give you a good eironn #98443793
Sure
Sent
Wow your eironn just well. Destroyed them as fast alone as they destroyed me previously. Thanks! @low apex
np
Help plz
someone help with pve lineup & a separate pvp lineup
this is the one i use currently
anyone have a comp for this deficit level?
Looking for help with the legends tournament. Need 3 teams
before anything, check out the pinned guides and stop making heroes legendary
4th time i’ve been told that lmfao it’s a bit late but yeah i’m focusing on shem so i can get her ascended
as for pve,
mirael/tasi/nemora backline
lucius/lyca frontline
will probably be good
dont focus on shemira, its a trap. focus on daimon
for pvp, you can just use the same thing
tyty
shemira will seem nice cause it will help you breeze through early to midgame, but daimon can do the same thing, and not completely fall off and be useless after
just using mirael will be good for where you are rn as a carry, once you hit a wall post 160, feel free to ask me or other people at #classic-questions who to take to mythic
Okay, first off, you are killing your progression by making any unit L if you dont have the copies to make it L+ right away. It is a huge waste of resources.
For LB focus on Rowan, then Rosa. Stop ascending the others for now or it will slow you down.
For GB silas is good, odin less a priority.
For Wilder Tasi and lyca and Eironn are your core.
For Mauler Tidus is a decent build but not used much outside of mauler tower. Eventually youll want safiya, skriath, and skreg.
At your level, Mirael would be your best carry, but you don't have any of her. After 160 belinda, shemira, or ideally Daimon will carry you far until you start using eironn teams much later.
Your progression may stall a bit as you build up a better carry, but it will catch back up as opposed to trying to force through what you've got right now.
@proud edge please advice me teams for Tournament from my heroes
Use your strongest 5 at this stage. Once you have some M's come back and ask again. That low level it doesn't matter too much in arena
@proud edge thanks for the response! I messed up with the many Ls I made, and I probably need a better carry than the wukong
but on Tournament we have now 250+ lvl for all heroes, so i am kinda asking for two teams for time of that event
it is not about "strongest", as I believe
more about synergy between teams
i am using as my strongest team right now: Lyca + Brutus / Arden + Tasi + Saveas
Wukong falls off hard after lvl 100 until he is ascended, and even then he's mostly for pvp
I see, so is Eziz my next choice for damage since I can get a couple of copies? or should I just hope to pull a Daimon or something?
Nooooo, ezizh is used later in god comp, again though he needs to be ascended. You want mirael at L+ to lvl 160, then Daimon, shemira, or belinda from there
For legends tournament? Same thing applies. Put your strongest heroes in, you are too low level to be competetive and I wouldn't focus on it
so, you just don't want to waste time on me)
okey, thanks
You don't have many units built. I'm telling you, you can put in your strongest and do fine for now.
if i just put my strongest i will have Saveas, Belinda and Eiron (3 carries) and only 1 support and 1 tank
so your advice is far from relevant
ya but at your level that works fine lol
maybe, but for tournament i need at least 2 teams
in second i tend to use belinda+rosaline
you're not even high enough level to get all the skills that makes supports/tanks good. so just do your highest ascension and highest level and you'll do fine
sorry, but i already said multiple times
i am asking advice for Legends Tournament
i will have heroes at 255 level
yep, and my tree will still be at 13 lvl, but i still will have a chance to beat stronger teams)
How do you kill both frontline heroes first? Misty valley stage 10.
I’ve been stuck on 370 for weeks. I have every wilder hero ascended with atleast 10, ussually 20 SI. Any advice?
should i make a mythic+ lucius or rosaline or mythic fawkes?
Rosaline
ok ty bro
You've had two people now tell you to put your strongest heroes, plus AM was nice enough to drop that chart in for you. Ascensions and Furniture are what matter in Legends, and you don't have those on any of your heroes yet, so there's not much you can do besides put your strongest heroes. No one is trying to waste your time, or not answer your question. There just isn't really a better strategy to offer you at the moment
As a rule of thumb, dont take anyone past M unless you have the copies to make them M+. It's a big waste of fodder and will slow you down in the long run
MV 10, frontline challenge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/807055459377872896/image0.png
I'm sorry if I offended you with my tone. You just said me to "not focus on it". But it matters to me, even at my lvl. I am getting many coins, so I will have both dimensionals from exchange and now, in time of that "phoenix"" event i am getting a bunch of diamonds every day, based on rank. I am not trying to get in champions rank, because i know, that it is impossible. I am finishing in daimond and happy with that. But right now it more matter of a luck for me, win or not. So just was seeking for some advises to create solid teams.
1 tank in frontline
1 support in fortnline
2 supports in back
and 1 carry in back or am i getting this wrong
I’ve been trying that comp and it hasn’t been working. Like maybe I need double shroud and just don’t have it idk
What are the meta lineups against the mage in TR?
I don't see why shroud would be necessary there. and jus use saurus god comp that's 3* on every artifact at least
Saurus hod comp is chaos on saurus right?
yes
I’ll just keep retrying I was hoping respen would save me from retry hell
Pretty but not even he can save me from this dumb tower
Gonna be L+ing my daimon soon, have 3 slots open on ascension crystal, any suggestions for what kind of comp to use? I’m on 10-24, been using daimon Silas talene and hogan mostly. I also have an E gwynn that got cut off
AND I GET STOPPED BY TIMER FML
sorry i wasnt on discord until now. i'm a Wilder player so I didnt have any problems vs Graveborn teams on Campaign. sorry 😦
😦
Heyo any recommendations?
the best I got so far was lyca dying the same frame as mezoth resulting in failure of the challenge. twice
then try these https://afkhelper.nax.is/misty_valley.php
first one in there worked great, thanks !
I can merc anyone needed too
All good dude, wish I had more advice for you. The graphic AM sent you is great, but like he said you're missing a lot of the units to make the effective teams work. Maybe use those as a base and slot in other units where you can, then work on building those units. You're missing. Seems like you could run a rudimentary belinda team and a basic eironn team at the moment.
Lorsan is common against skreg, the link ignores his damage reduction so that can make taking him out way easier. Maybe worth a shot
@clever patio ppls normally use lorsan to link skreg
Yeah I’ve tried that and all the winning formations either have tree/kaz others and none has Lorsan. Also lorsan has to be in either my saurus or nemoras spot for his link to go to skreg. Which still kinda destroys my army
Let me check my tower setups
And skreg still does mass damage to my heroes. All of them have t2 gear
Except nemora/turtle/lorsan which shouldn’t really matter except for maybe the nemora
Well, try eye call shroud in eironn
I don’t have shroud. I have up to mage one
Lyca needs grace or shroud surely, nemora call
Anyway, put lyca and Saurus front, nemora eironn and lorsan back. Then try with eironn call eye, keep grace on lyca, call on nemora, and chaos is fine for Saurus
What do I want on lorsan
Doesn't matter much lorsan gear, just to link skreg
Maybe shem instead of sav, other than that worth a shot
Maybe Twins?
I just thought that Saveas will deal initial damage while Belinda getting her mana for ult
Any recommendations on how to move forward?
I have my 5 L+ as recommandé , I don't know who to add on the crystal to push the campaign(actually chapter 12-1), and did I remove Nara from the wishlist or I wait to have 4 more copy of her before?
Don't really know where to go with my heros
you only need one copy of Nara for her to do her job, you can take off wishlist, you still can push levels to 160, try to faction scroll Wilers to get 2 more Eironn copies or GB in hopes of Daimon
Ok thanks i will swith her, i'm a bit lost with my team composition, actually doing Brutus / joker in front line and Shemira / Nara / Arden in back line, but i think i have to switch and don't really know what to do
there's no such a thing as team composition pre-Mythic, you have your carry and everyone around him try to help him do its job, this could be distract enemy damage dealer, disrupt enemy cc or buffing your carry, each stage requires diferent things
Screenshot (Feb 10, 2021 2:51:05 PM)
thinkin on how im gonna get thru this
that's mirael an belinda in the back btw
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pulling Brutus sounds like a bad idea, you are gonna burst him, he is gonna reach low HP, thats gonna increase his attack , he is gonna get his damage immunity and then he is gonna spin all over Eironn and Saurus
i see
what should i use here,this will unlock LC if i am not mistaken so need help :3
try mirael rowan arden for backline
and wukong and saurus for frontline?
i am dying faster this way
@summer cedar do you have wilder 234 ss?
if it's not on the site I don't have it
ah thanks anyway
I didn't screenshot stages in the past bc I didn't think anyone would need 'em
@pale kettle
ainz
saurus
rowan
brutus
rosaline
ainz
lyca
rowan
brutus
rosaline
ainz
brutus
nemora
lyca
rowan
all come to mind as things to experiment with
the nemora team is one you would reset until she charms ferael, that can sometimes be the difference between a win and loss
if u post the enemies I might be able to figure it out
hogan brutus rowan eironn arden/lyca might work
Placing eironn in the middle leads to instant loss, bottom leads to shemira nuking, top sometimes leads to one left but never enough hp for eironn to finish ://
does eironn pull succesfully?
Not as successful at my existing comp :(
Might have to just wait till I get everything to 160 so I can level up eironn more
Or until I can use mercs or smth
eironn without dodge is v difficult to make work
Getting him ascended was the reason I've gotten to this chapter but ye the occasional comp just shits on him
Yes, cant ult because of the nara lockdown though
Lineup?
brutus lucius shem rowan tasi or something like that. reset rowan so shem is lvl 200 instead
in what order I’m dumb
switch out talene for brutus at the very least, talene probably not doing much here.
keep eironn top, its probably just a matter of resetting tbh. lyca would be big here, or arden with higher ascension at 160
The order he listed
very helpful orion
it is helpful. clear the board. tap in the order I listed.
This^
I'm one copy off of getting him back to L+, Talene just provides the sustain required for keeping Hogan alive a bit longer
I will try that tho ty
how fast does Hogan die? if hes dying in a second or so, use brutus instead of him, and just use the last asp for some guaranteed breathing room (about a second or two more)
if arden is not cutting it, im thinking how good that skriath might be- whats his SI at? for that matter, what is eironns SI at?
some comps to try:
Eironn
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Skriath
Eironn
Brutus
Rowan
Hogan
Lyca
Eironn
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi
Eironn
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
19 eironn, 0 for skriath but i have like 180 of the currency
ye thats what i heard, i need 5 more of the currency to get eironn to +20
can you reset the shop for gold emblems or no?
yes
I could ye
+20 eironn is a nice power boost
Lucius and shemira for sure
But idk who can I Pack in the back
alright, i have like 50 red chests as well unopened
as usual, read pins, and stop bringing heroes to L, you have wasted a lot of fodder
lucius, shem, estrilda, rosa, cecilia might be ok for your purposes. if rosa follows lucius tho, it wont work, she has to follow shemira
thats ok, i usually on refresh twice a day myself and dont get it either. its smartest to just wait
yeah
keep hoarding them red chests from the event if you can, eironn +30 is so good
Ah sorry 😑
Why shouldnt she follow lucius?
also got tomorrow to get some of the events currency
rosa follows the character with highest combat power, and she works as an energy battery with which your carry can instantly ult twice in a row for huge burst damage potential. if she follows lucius, lucius is just gonna shield over his first ult shield, which is totally useless
and get emblem from that
it's not totally useless since shields stack. however, it is far LESS useful than the carry ulting twice
true, not totally, thats fair. but i dont see a point in rosa not following your mage carry
I always thought it is good if she follow lucius.. Ok thx for the explain
i guess in the event you want to stall enemies with lucius sustain its a nice idea, but thats a very niche strategy outside of something like low level pvp
and in PVE stall wont work without some sort of damage to finish the fight anyways, so youd want rosa on your carry (in this case, shemira)
Ok
. I will test something and makes shemira a lil bit stronger.. Thx 4 Ur Support
no problem, anytime. just make sure you only ascend heroes if you can get them to L+ 🙂
Can I put Joker in?
probably in place of Cecilia, yes
my turn to ask for advice, posting box after slowmode
got tasi E+, Mehira E and Talene E sittin below
Really nice... I won and im now chapter 15 🕺
congrats!
Just starting & spent a bit of time reolling - Have pulled Daimon, Izold+, Thoran, Eironn - will this be alright to keep as im bored now of rerolling =p
theres little point to rerolling in this game, since you need 8 copies of each hero and theres a chance you may never pull the copies of heroes you start with until much later. so dont worry about rerolling. thats a good start but what matters is how you use faction scrolls and diamonds and such
eironn, thoran, daimon, izold all of them require investment and copies to reach their potential, you may find that once you get further the rare carries- mirael and saveas are better to push earlygame campaign with
oh btw. feel free to upload your clears too. sorry I don't remember this one tho
I have been, I'm in the top 10 contributors :)
I see a clear with saurus tasi lyca eironn pippa. it might be rly difficult tho
Yeah I tried it with nemora or lorsan instead of pippa, but neither one works
Help plz. Will also be used for the next boss.
@nocturne bone @maiden marsh here? Idk why it cut off bottom
yep. show us your box too
Which enemy is causing the most trouble? Try looking at replay stats
let me see
in daimon's case the most troublesome enemy is almost always ferael
belinda is doing the most dmg by a long shot
If you have Nara, maybe try Nara on the opposite side of either Belinda or Ferael
also you don't usually want daimon on the frontline
especially not across from belinda
ive tried a bunch of different formations
Try rowan, brutus, daimon, nara, lyca
my nara is lvl 1 and only elite
Stick 'er on the crystal then
ok
who in what positions
1-5 as I said them. If you empty the slots, the ground is numbered
Gotta try more than once
tried 4 times
Still not really enough but anyways, lets check artis. You got call on daimon?
yes
Alright try tasi instead of rowan. Tell me who she banishes
belinda
Pretty good. Close to winning?
Alright. Another thing to take note of: is daimon popping ult with bloodshield still active?
well replacing brutus for thoran let me win
Nice
epic
rowan instantly dies in frontline tho
He's often better backline before ascended with proper gear yeah
ok
@ Joker and/or Queen owners
I need a good team build using one or both (preferably the latter)
I don't have them yet but I need build ideas plz
Which heroes fit well with joker?
Hey guys it's me again ✊😔
JOKER Gwyneth, JOKER Ferael, used them in PvE
Who do I build next
@pale kettle
daimon
lyca
nemora
brutus
joker/arden/tasi
What are the monsters? Take an ss of that I don’t remember the stage
Can u show the stage
Lucius, daimon, Belinda, respen, izold
Back: nemora, eironn, daimon Front: Lucius, izold (left to right as top to bottom)
Try switching Lyca for tasi
Thanks to both of you, I'll give those a shot. Will a little RNG on my side should be good
I still got destroyed @solemn creek
Don't think I have tasi
Back: Tasi, eironn, Rowan. Front: Brutus, talene. (Right to left as top to bottom)
Tasi was for the tnt person
Ok
Still lost pretty badly
Is ur eironn dying right away?
No, he’s usually last alive
If he is, then I’m not too sure what to do
Try switching Tasi with lyca
Wasn’t that my original lineup
Brutus and talene are front line
Was Brutus on top or bottom?
Np
merc M AoE carry like Belinda Daimon Ainz Gwyneth
Ok where should I put it then? @vast meadow
backline
Ok for who tho
Bit different from what others used from what I saw, so posting so people can find it, 32-56:
https://i.imgur.com/JHvr5jJ.png
Which heroes are worth the investment.
Any ideas? I need to deal with both Isabella and ferael, and Brutus always lives too long and kills anyone who survives
Ainz comp, god comp, eironn comp; ainz/god comp best for arena
Stop making legendaries till yoi have more dupes
Try front row lucius + rowan, back row ezhih + daimon + rosaline
If that doesnt work play with brutus to see if you can get rosaline + daimon to pull off fast enough
Just ainz
Tried it, one ult doesn’t kill Isabella and she proceeds to one shot everyone. And ferael delays that ult so everyone else dies
You also have the team for god comp but its a bit squishy
Does your ainz have his sig 20+?
Even 10+ should be enough, if he kills 3 of them he will automatixally ultimate again, especially if rowan has sig 30
No just +11 or 12. He can’t kill 3 because Brutus and golus face tank, and the other three are slightly off damage
Is she wiping your team with an ultimate?
Yeah. Which she gets fast because she kills he side in the first few seconds
Use ezizh hell lock her out after ainz ult
He also gives passive energy buff so ainz can ult faster
Ainz lyca tasi and some other stuff u need haste + cc to easily beat that
Hello, can u tell me on which Heroes to focus, so I could run story a bit easier
Depends on what you have
Started a game not so long time ago 😂
So got time to explore those Heroes, but maybe I got alrdy some good
@umbral blaze if you're new, I'd suggest you check the pinned guides over at #classic-questions
👍
Very close.. time runs out
I got it with this, thank you again
How to deal with the tree? Can't kill it before he Ults and once he does that he just heals back the damage, tried pulling Nemora with Nara but Daimon would be too busy fighting tree and not trying to kill her
Ferael for anti-heal if you have one.
you need someone to burst/cc them. ferael,tasi are viable choice. and if youre willing to try, throw grez in there, if grez can survive then he can kill tree guy faster than daimon can
Any recommendations pls?
@manic ravine
wukong away; rosa on his spot and put tasi in aswell (then you'll have a little extra health aswell)
Do I even have 3 good formations here for legends challenger? I have 1 lineup as lucius, tasi, rosaline, gwyneth, and belinda, but no idea for the other two
No one gets an ult off and nemora gets 2 shot
Ah whoops forgot I have a brightness filter on, it's 3 am rn lmao
Try mercing an eironn, and getting thoran to resurrection early, i used eironn + ainz in some way, oh nvm you have eironn
try eironn instead of arthur
Gonna give it a shot, thanks !
So i got
Shemira mythic + lyca mythic and eiron 1 star
As main characters
Wanted to know who to look for to add in team,
Thinking tasi as 4th character and have no idea about 5th one
Any help who to have in team as 4 and 5th characters? Currently at chapter 16. (id like to use f2p friendly chars)
Can you take a screenshot of your whole roster @sudden flower
@raw rune will have eiron 1 star in 10 hours and can ascend lyca to mythic too
This is the lineup that got me till ch 16
ok, reset everyone but eironn to lv140 @sudden flower and level him up as much as possible. Also consider using him mid backline he's much better there. Consider removing shemira from your team when you can, she won't add much, a better mage to use with him is safiya but skriath also works if you get his 3/9 furniture. Also stop getting stuff to legendary without getting them to legendary+, it's a waste of fodder that could be used on something else that has more copies. Try and build daimon asap in gb, tasi is fine to build before lyca, and work on either safiya or skriath (safiya is the safer one). Also definitely put that brutus on crystal, he has a ton of use in campaign. Also I'd recommend you adjust your tavern wishlist to the pinned guide in #classic-questions
Can someone help me with that ? The Abysmal Delves . Camp next to a ice hammer 🥺
@raw rune so something like this?
Safiya eiron daimon
Tasi lyca
Also which artifact should eiron have?
enemy team doesn't have much damage, I'd use ainz and stall until his HP chunk and try to finish them off with an ult
@raw rune also at what point should i swap in tasi safiya and daimon when i get them to legend +? Cuz tasi gets one shot instantly
Any tips ? Silvina and Isabella are dealing way too much damage
This Lucius duo is a pain in the ass
if you have a fawkes, you could try timing his ult to right around the 1:08 mark in preparation for ainz to finish them instantly
I finished it already ☺️
eironn either eye or call, whichever works better in the stage. Start working on your mythic gear, even legendary+ heroes can live with some gear,especially tasi. Daimon you can start using when you get him Mythic +20 signature item. Tasi start using asap. Safiya is mainly there for the pyramid, so she should be fine at l+ as long as she isn't targeted at the start. But brutus and/or alna can definitely be slotted in there. You can change lyca tasi daimon depending on stage
Currently hardstuck at 11-38 please help.
In the future work on getting a tank up, and dont make legendaries if you dont have enough dupes, id say do front row: shemira, saurus back row: farael talene nemora
I dont know what stage your trying to do but judging from the lack of elite+ compared to elites im guessing your using ascended heroes to make your legendaries, dont do this. Wait to make legendaries with fodders, then later make legendaries with your ascended when you have enough dupes or youll get locked out later
Ah ok, you havent used ascended ones then?
wait do u mean when ive ascended heroes at the temple of ascension
Ascended heroes are heroes that start at elite rarity when you get them
Fodder are heroes that start at rare
ive been getting loads of rare shards so ive been summonin gheroes which i am then upgrading
Alright then, for now focus on only making your fodder legendary+ untill you have 4+ dupes of an ascended hero
ah ok
If you dont youll be stuck with tons of legendaries later, and be sitting in campaign for awhile
read the pins in #classic-questions for early game guidance
^^^
Any advice lads? Been stuck here for ages
Need some help passing this stage, what should my line up be?
Any ways to deal with Isabella ? She deals a mind-numbing amount of damage (1 million whereas the rest of the ennemies does 150k)
Try nara on her, you don't need that cecilia
Problem with Nara is that i loose the faction bonus if i use her, then Rowan dies instantly and so does Lucius
Well i passed it by using cecilia to reduce isabella's power, then some weird rng magic happened and Lucius ult blocked shemira silence so my shemira was able to ult. Thank you for the help tho <3
How did u get to 17 with that line up
Idk what she good for
She can CC enemy for 3 seconds and thats works so good against Ferael
Thst is pretty good
I been using my same line up for ages only changed 1 so can’t complain
I dont really have a main line up lol that was from switching stuff around
I dont really have the best luck with the better heros rip
how is lucius doing? is he living long enough to make an impact?
Wareks a beast
He can ult once and then he dies
just replace him with lyca or brutus then and see if that gets you anywhere
Alright sounds good
lyca is probably the best adjustment there, brutus is just to use his shield passive to buy time for belinda
raine and fawkes could also give some ok support here if you wanna experiment with them
and another idea would be lyca/lucius rather than lyca/estrilda. play around with it. e+ heroes are definitely still viable in chapter 17, i beat 16 and 17 with stuff like e+ tasi, nara, flora and vurk
@stuck trellis pippi do you have your 31-4 ss?
Don't rely on faction bonus, having a better team synergy is gonna be more impactful. Sure it's nice, but don't aim for it. Cecilia is most likely not gonna be your best option to use in campaign
Is oden good?
Finally beat 17-24 with
Fawkes
Belinda
Lyca
Lucius
Rowan
Just took me a bunch of retires lmao
Some ideas ?
Who do I put on my resonating crystal, I have 7 slots
What should my team be built out of
Looking for some help on my arena team is there a better team for my available heroes?
Read the beginner guide in the pins. Build Mirael to L+, she will carry you to lvl 160
Hey guys, some advices for this Stage ? I have athalia too
Any idea ? Thanks for the help !
Is there any way to do this without Albedo getting the 400
The mana from Rowan? Swap her with Lyca?
Ok I’ll try that out
Didn’t work, she moves to the front of the line where Rowan is
Rowan's mana pots go to whatever hero hits 600 energy first. What artifacts are you using?
Bedo chalice, Ainz Blade, lyca Blade, Rowan and Tasi call
Try bedo and rowan chalice, ainz and tasi call, lyca is on eye or grace, shes not a dd and doesnt benefit from blade
any ideas or should i just afk
Does rosa instead of daimon for the double mirael ult not work?
Or frontline mirael, remove thoran, put rowan center back, add rosa
@proud edge na ive daimon works better recently but i havent tried it for this stage so ill try all your suggestions
ah yeah it worked, probably situational depending on how fast rosa dies
Ayy nice!
@proud edge not sure how helpful this will be since it was before antandra change, but there u go
Did you merc that Izold?
yep
That's what I'm considering
Help@pls
I’ve been stuck in this forever and Mehira one shots
cancerous stage
Lmao. My Nara is not strong enough and absolutely agreed
you just need nara to pull mehira before her bats spawn
Someone pls help
i need help getting past this stage (28-42)
Try Eironn instead of luc
Excuse my bootleg battle report but I forgot to screenshot
took a few retries with it but it worked thank you!
👍
Any1 got an idea
Any tips on how to make more synergied comps?
Can I get some help please?
I have no idea what you're asking. what game mode?
Its for Chall Arena... I was wondering If i could better synergise my defensive comps
expect to lose on defense as attackers have significant adv. for LC you only need 2 teams. the third team is largely irrelevant, which also means you should still expect to lose by virtue of having a throwaway team.
that said, it'll be easier if u just posted ur full box
Alright give me one moment
And also, I won one with my throwaeay, so its now all throwaway
I’m been trying for a while
is this 29-60?
Yeah
some winning lineups https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=60
obv these need a good deal of retries due to rng dodging athalia and getting ult timing b4 ezizh
Here is my box and crystal... i can switch out heroes if I need to
Main reason I'm asking is becasue I dont know how synergies work, and I was looking for some tips
I'd try to get daimon to 20 asap
daimon has synergy with stall and cc. so does ainz. they need a bit of time to get rolling and then they do work
I have daimon +19
I would get +20, but i was told not to get golds
Also, I'm asking cuz I dont know what stall and cc means
And I dont know which heroes do that. All I Know is Ains and Daimon are in different teams in multi-team
And cc is stuff like Tasi sleep, charm, and skraith?
something like
albedo talene ainz rowan arden
brutus thoran daimon nara lyca
and whatever for the 3rd team.
questions like what stall and cc are belong in #classic-questions
Arden at 140?
why would he be 140?
Hes not in crystal... i meant 240
His max lvl is 140
Non crystal heroes are capped at 240 in challengers
id get aren to 141 asap. consider swapping talene for lyca or just afk some more
@summer cedar arden hardly ever works how do i make him work better
arden's max is 160 tho?
and yes throw him in crystal
You don't he's a Legendary+ tier hero so you can't stick with him for long
oh i posted the wrong box
as long as he survives long enough to root, he provides invaluable CC
he shines from lvl 141 to 160. that's when he gets his triple root which is probably the second best cc in the game
ah ok that makes sense, who would i replace?
oh u have a brutus. nvm stick brutus frontline. mirael loves having brutus tank everything
He 240 put of crystal... is he really that good L+?
triple root is fantastic. also, your rowan is purple, but he's still good. asc don't make or break every hero
Who do I replace In my crustal... I'm keeping good TR heroes in for that reason
And I'm saving a spot for when I get wareek, also for TR and guild hunt
it's a little early to have raine in there. sorry but baden is garbage
shem shud also be removed. if she's not your carry and isn't Ascended, she's kinda useless. u can merc a better one for TR.
I merc saurus for everything though
Any suggestions as to who i should add from my box? I'm assuming Alna might be one
TR stages that use saurus do not overlap with TR stage that uses shem (which is only evil nemora)
Oh, okie... thank your for telling me
So, Saurus and Shem mercs... neither In crystal, or can I keep saurus and just take shem Out?
thoran arden lyca. this is also #classic-questions territory and I need to start a lab report so they can help
Okie, thank chu
I didntbknow crystal counted for questions... I apreciate your help
doing a lab report rn and this reminds me i should probably stop procrastinating
I have Lyca in Crystal already,
Okie, I edited my teams based on what someone told me... is there amy suggestions someonr can give me, or is this as Good as I'll get currently
I guess I'm not allowed to ask for help anymore...
Any advice on what lineup I should be using? Progression is getting slow and more difficult.
Try shemira 1/ Rosalin 2 / Saurus 3 / wukong 4 / Lucius 5
Okie, I edited my teams based on what someone told me... is there amy suggestions someonr can give me, or is this as Good as I'll get currently
@worthy steeple swap numisu in team 1 instead of talene, get nara backmid on #2, get talene in team 3. Ngl not much you can do, maybe people will get baited by team 3 because of celepog
Is arden worth having?
He is since he brings good cc, but people can counter him easily with nara/athalia
and i can show my box if theres other heroes i should use instead
Esp since you can have yourself a lvl 256 arden during the martial rating challenger
But afterwards hes not worth it?
Once he goes back to 160 you can take him out yeah. As a general advice I'd suggest you to hcp 3 copies of rowan asap
You have 1 ascended hero right?
I just got him e+ yesturday
I have 2 now, Belinda and Daimon
Who can I replace arden with when he goes off the cap?
Also, Should I link Albedo to Gwenyth or Safiya? Who will I end up using more at Mythic
You could get twin in
Twins e+?
I think so
I'll try that... also, if I do Numisu in comp 1, does that force rowan frontline?
Also, Should I link Albedo to Gwenyth or Safiya? Who will I end up using more at Mythic
@worthy steeple keep the link on safiya you won't need her till later on for pve
As long as numisu use his 2nd skill on ainz buffing his haste he can die, Frontline won't really matter ig
Okie... so Twins when Arden is off cap, Numisu instead of talene, nara mid-backline, and talen in third comp. Any other tips, like who I could Add if i can get them?
Arthur would be a good fit in comp 1, comp 2 is mostly solid, team 3 really wack, but as of now you can't really do better on 3, maybe get lucretia out for someone else
Lucretia stays... she won me a game
she prevented me going to plat 3
I'm working on getting arthur right now. need 45 shards to go. Is cecil or Gwenyth better for team three than drez?
@worthy steeple gwyn need a strong Frontline and is easily counterable in pvp so I wouldn't count on her.
I never do anyways
Cecilia is actually really good cc? Should I use her, or keep what I have
Cecilia has no cc, mostly used on attack to reduce attack of one enemy in front of her
Oh, thats how it works? I thought circle did reduce attack to all enemies in it?
Oh, thats how it works? I thought circle did reduce attack to all enemies in it?
@worthy steeple yep, but that's not exactly cc imo
Oh, okie
Is she worth using curently, or no?
I really appreciate your help @feral eagle... if you need anything in return, I'll try
Need help pls
Is she worth using curently, or no?
@worthy steeple I'd say no. Also if you ha e ezizh getting him in ainz comp makes more sence than twins I guess, no worries for the help, the more you advance through the game the easier it. Will be for you to set up actual teams.
@raw rune ok thanks for help
so use Ezizh in ains comp? is Alna worth having E? and can I use her anywhere?
Any funky ideas?
Any advice on which to push to si20?
I am a lil bit stuck here. Wanna clear the chapter but idk lol.
@gilded dome i dont think you need a super busted nara
whats not clear
- rng exists
- lucius isnt a nara replacment
Well I don't have a Nara replacement if you can't find something in my party I posted lol
well i can only see 12 heroes
you can also use an e nara as long as she pulls tasi in before banish
true that also would work if it stops the banish
@wispy tartan
E+ Nara works even worse than Lucius :0
@maiden marsh switch rowan and tasi and maybe try ferael instead of tasi if tasi doesnt work
gotcha
yeah srry not 100% sure, I think I didn't use eironn in that stage tho, ferael instead maybe
yea you might not need eironn if ferael can fear before the hypo mage uses his backline attack and the enemy feraels fear
Here is what I have to work with
try tasi rowan lyca fera daimon. it's my go-to for most stages. problem is ur tasi lacks SI as does eironn. those matter way more than levels do. and rowan shud be frontlining most of the time anyway
thanks for the suggestions guys!
I got thanks,,,
What should my second line up be for campaign? I’m using pull 5 comp for first line up
daimon fera
Second this
Cant seem to win this one, any suggestions?
I tried turning my lucius into lvl 220 so he had more hp before but it wont work
try lucius brutus shem rowan lyca
Should i turn my lucius into lvl 220 again?
The lucius died after one shemira laser thing even after being level 220
The statistics show the best fromation i used
Is there a way to beat this rn or should i wait for mercs to be available again/level up my heros in the waiting game?
Stage 15 last boss btw
Can i get any suggestions pls dont jnow what to do
What do you need
What stage is it?
32-6
Oh I don't have a screenshot of it, but I either done it with Izold comp or eironn skriath, and looking at Tasi I've probably done it with Izold comp
Try
Nara
Rowan
Tasi
Izold
Lyca
Hardstuck plz help
@lime quiver main issue is izold dying before he can ult
@strong comet who does silvina kill?
Try
Tasi
Rowan
Lyca
Nara
Izold
Goes for tasi, but tasi stays alive somehow then she just moves her way up
You need Izold Lyca Tasi rowan and a filler for single stages Izold comps, try moving him around until he can start snowballing
@strong comet who’s killing your team
It’s a massacre dude
Use rowan instead of eironn
Doesn’t help much
That team is bad for belinda as grezhul gives magical damage mitigation and golus gets tankier when his health is low
So I should take her out?
Try your lyca instead of Belinda @strong comet
I don't know, you don't have a decent eironn comp, you could try
Tasi
Talene
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
That worked, thank you
Who replaces for flora
@summer cedar thnx
Damn it I don’t have albedo 😦 guess I wait till mercs come out haha
there are other lineups including mine. scroll down @merry thunder
Ayy you’re worked ❤️ @summer cedar
Light vs grave??
It's the light tower?
Floor 70
Oh lol
Faction advantage is irrelevant 90% of the time
Try
Rose
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Gwen
Swap gwen and estrilda to other side if it doesn't work
That worked after about 15 tries lol
That floor seems crazy for so low
@summer cedar any ideas with the hero’s I have left? Ezio and Arthur will probably have to be included
Anyone know the ideal arena placement for the Ainz/Albedo/Rowan/Twins/Ezizh comp?
help?
🤮
@dusky lion any suggestions
Best lineup for burning broot?
You’re going to transition from wukong to mirael + Rosaline, but you can keep on using wukong for now since you have E+ and he caps at 120. He’ll probably be a decent tank for the time being. Level mirael to as high as you can and ascend her to L+, she even served as a frontline when you’re over leveled.
Arden is going to be op, especially when he hits 141. Decent support to throw in. Think Rowan will serve well in your lineup, and You can try lyca for the haste, or Tasi for the banish/cc. Early game it’s going to be a lot of moving stuff around and retrying to see what works but that’s whY I’d do.
Not sure, I think you’re best bet is check the top legends teams and try to copy what one you can. Watch the replay to see when and who they ult. Early on it’s hard to have the meta heroes built
https://gyazo.com/e99fa727964199eb06c948bb8c8eda33
Is this actually do-able?
Ty but like where do I put them in formation? Like who goes 1,2,3 and such
That’s really going to depend on each battle. Early on you’ll retry stuff that shouldn’t work and yet that’s what gets you the win. I’d do wukong up front, and if mirael is 40 levels ahead like she should be and you’re using her then I’d try her up front too. I’d have Rowan behind her to give potion, Rosaline 1 over and then your next support behind wukong. But in theory sure in practicality it may be something totally different. Not really a one size fits all. Even now for me there’s the picture lineup but that doesn’t always win. You have to move stuff around when you fail to see what’s happening and how to fix it
Who should I ascend @dusky lion
Mirael and Arden for fodder in LB and wilder respectively, the other 2 idk if there’s much difference. I just chose what I could ascend easily but maybe someone is more useful. I didn’t end up using them aside from leveling for crustal
Is this a good lineup?
Any Suggestions?
Hey guys, cosmi playing today and I would like to know how many times I can do with these characters
Eironn, Daimon - Front row;
Lyca, Rowan, Mirael - Back row;
Please help. Normal line up isn't cutting it.
Is it worth buying emblem choice with challenger coins. I have max and would like to spend some since some are expiring in mail. I can’t buy Ezizh since I won’t have enough for the dims
You can get 30 Emblem Choice Chests from the event for 65 feathers things but Challange Coins aren't so important so you can go for it
I've had a really hard time winning much of my legends challenger matches. Do I even have enough characters for 3 synergetic/good formations? My main team is Gwyn/rose/lucius/tasi/belinda but no clue for the other two, or if separating them would lead to better teams. They all normalize to lvl 250 if that matters
@pale monolith yeah I mean emblem choice chests aren’t really my problem but my challenger coins are maxed out.
Pepega idk whether i should have two carries, how can i improve my lineup
Rosa will always go to savaes
pls help?
Heres my roster
Team comp for joker?
🥲
i need help :')
so do I, I am literally sobbing
who's considered a carry?
shemi beli and daimon, I suggest you stop invensting in belinda and shemira
bit too late xD
give up on them, use them as links literally
go all in on daimon and build team around him
cant shem be around him tho?
shes garbage ch23+, shes turbo good early game only - rest no no
who is better than her
daimon is best shit ever man
dude
Anytipps for These burning Woods Bosses? Did the Others one without Problems
i used so many of those graveborn red skill things on her
shes nearly maxed like level 27
if you have E+ alna you can go with first one or something similar
whos alna?
black skin lady above daimon
you're lucky you have daimon ascended so dnt think all is lost
Solved
i used alot of diamonds to get him tho
no regrets!
ofc they do
the budget one doesnt have any..
alna is celestial
shes not in the budget one.
how does one disable Silvina? as in, which hero is a hard counter to her? 8-24 has been kicking my ass for 3 days now 😦 Vedan turning into bats also cost me once
Nara she can drag her away from whoever she tps to
so i need to get lucky and pull her. sucks, but thanks
You can try making her focus someone you dont care about or outheal her dmg
kinda hard to do with level 100 heroes. if i manage to kill her, Vedan becomes perma immune to damage because he keeps on turning into bats forever until everyone's dead... i guess i'll just stay here for a few more days i guess..
What's your lineup
Help me?
Try eirom top backline
Just dies this one stage just everyone dies insta but before i did well
Lyca shoulsnt be in front of kaz
help 15h trying nada works save me
sorry for taking a bit, had lunch. very basic lineup, my account is 7 days old today. i also have about 100 summons saved up and i will get Talene in two days from War of Wits, so if she would help a lot, i can wait another two days i suppose
Stuck on 26-48
Eironn, Brutus - Front row;
Belinda, Rowan, Wu Kong-Back row;
Can i get a lineup for 30-60?
thanks, worked like a charm. took a few retries though
Anyone have useful info on Respen yet?
I’m tempted to try and get more copies of him.
Help
Could someone suggest me 3 pvp teams from this?
1st team: frontline: thoran talene
Backline: fawkes nara rosaline
2nd team: frontline: tasi arthur
Backline: mehira nemora fereal
3rd team: frontline: arthur albedo
Backline: ainz twins daimon
Just suggestions they probably wont work
3rd team: frontline: arthur albedo
Backline: ainz twins daimon
Just suggestions they probably wont work <-- probably they do; but I would put nakoruru in there instead of daimon
talene/albedo front line: ainz, arthur and nakorur backline - perhaps
remove talene if you wanna create a lock-out team for against ainz 😉
upgrade rowan's SI to 30 ASAP; but you might wanna try: saurus brutus @ frontline and shemira, rowan and tasi backline
Apparently Fera and vurk don't take damage here, what do?
tried ainz instead of daimon/
No, I don't use ainz. He's too squishy and I dont have mage gear upped
and belinda's
i think massive damage helps here
otherwise try replacing lucius with saurus; he heals
Belle dies in 1 hit lol
T1 gear is not good
could be usefull: tasi/saurus frontline: lyca, eironn, rowan backline
i mean gwyn instead of rowan
Tasi is L+ lmao
go upgrade your heroes 🙂
Face it, I'm doomed
nah should be doable - 100+ level caps are easy to be done (though esspecially when SI and furniture are build)
I could try getting daimon to 30
helps allot
Could be possible if I had food
well waterboy is food @ wilders...
Saurus frontline against 3 Maulers including 2 bulldozer tanks?
Good luck with that.
i just noticed he doesn't have si30 - otherwise it would be very doable
I'm thinking either daimon or ferael...
they both need tobe si30 anyway
Yeah well I only have 200 red chests so far, and I don't spend money so it's only one for now
300 once I claim event red chests
rowan needs to be your first si30 IMHO!
i shall order some glasses 🙂 anyway i'm not sure who would be a better first: daimon or fereal... - perhaps focus on eironn aswell
Any tips ? Bottom down is Ascended Safiya, Thoran and Nara + Mythic Talene
If you build eironn and gwyneth more you could do eironn comp
Always daimon first
Just ainz jt lmao, it might take a few retries but with rowan (mythic ir higher hopefullly with his sig) and lyca and some ccs youll be fine
Rowan EQ is all T2 with Sig +30. Well i will try with Ainz but he is literally sig+10 and 2/9 furniture
Daimon is at +29, missing 15 stones for +30...
alright
For now focus on Wu Kong until he is level capped. After that you lvl the 5 fodder heroes mentioned in the #classic-questions pins
Are elites not worth it? Ty
Usually sig 10+ is enough since ainz only needs to double ult
Nope, you can get the fodder heroes to L+ a lot easier
ferael merc makes it super ez
Any help?
30-44 is hell on earth
Tried that comp countless times , at least over 500 and I’m higher level 😦 rngesus is not with me
Any ideas? Help 🙂
Mauler tower, any ideas?
I need help with this I literally have no idea how to beat this stage
Tasi is your friend
for who and where tho?
lyca or sav probably
For this boss, what hero should I use instead of Mortas? I already have Saurus, twins, rowans and grezhul.
not sure who to gaze after talene and twins tbh. mehira? zolrath? lucretia? any tips are welcome
slowmode memeing me lineup inc.
desperately need this tower for the last field of stars upgrade any help appreciated
which artifacts should i equip here?
Stuck at 32-56. Tried afkhelper and using stage info but not have 3 furn skriath or viable thoran/izold makes it so I can't match any existing lineups
Saurus (chaos)
Grezhul (Eye)
Warek (chaos)
Mortas(Call)
Twins(Call)
The optimal Soren comp doesn't use grezhul though. It is saurus, raine, rosaline (follows saurus), mortas/warek/lorsan (differs per person honestly) and twins
I don't have raine, will be working on her. Do i need to have her at a specific point for her to be good against soren?
just checked, only raine i have is E lol
She needs 3 furn. So I'd merc her
so to use her non merc i'd have to ascend her. good to know. Mercing it is lol
brutus and tidus backline. the rest don't matter too much, tidus can carry this assuming he has dodge gear. merc if necessary
He is +20 now with 3/9, he ults 2 times but i still loose lmao. first ult does like no dmg to anyone
I got it with safiya, Vurk, Brutus, skreg, Tidus
i was able to get it eventually with good tidus rng
Kinds tower 397, any ideas?
Help
Edit: Nvm got it
can you god comp r2?
Eeeh! Another Lexi!
there are many of us xD
So last time I used Nara to avoid Tasi banish, she is on Frontline now, how do I avoid banish?
On stage 25-8. Please help
What hero should I merc to beat this
My mehira and ezizh are leg and leg+ respectively so prob not
@boreal ingot hmmm. alright copy this round 2, then do some eironn or ainz team for r1
since rowan is open, shouldnt be too bad to make something up
then for r3 you could run a team with saurus twins in it
any ainz players around?
albedo out for tasi?
Sure I'll try that. Thank you. I can't do it now but will try later. I tried eironn team for round 1 and failing miserably though too. I tried ainz and got closer but we'll see... What do you recommend for team 3 with saurus and twins if I did team 1 with ainz (I'd probably do ainz, Arthur, albedo, and 2 others that I'll mess around with to see what works.
I have, didn't work
https://gyazo.com/efe083727d669ed2f3598aefcdc14190
it makes no fucking sense
even when alna gets to activate immunity i get blown up
its a tough eironn for sure. maybe try this for round 1 when you get to it?
estrilda
talene
rowan
twins
saurus
https://gyazo.com/30cad4e955d8f9e5c7ed0c8de1834bdb
absolute bollocks 🙂
ideas?
lyca
arthur
ainz
rowan
tasi
rowan is full t2 and he gets blown up xd
can you screenshot the thing that shows all your units used (icon with the two arrows)
either swap rowan and arthur then or retry more (until rowan dodges everything)
@pale kettle this was my 33-20, maybe you can copy some of hte comps used
Newbie here any suggestions
@pale kettle since your daimon is strong and your ainz is weak, you would probaby be better off using daimon for round 2, and maybe moving rowan to round 1 if you have no skriath with 3 furniture
read pins in #classic-questions
thanks for trying to help at least m8, good to see someone actually helping after hole day of desert
thanks but ainz and albedo weak. So I need try something else. but maybe need rly this rowan on lineup 3 ill see
I'm finding this version of the Misty Valley extremely hard (100+ tries to finish some levels) and I'm wondering if I leveled too much? If so, what are my options?
give up on it
That's one option, for sure. @languid pier How would ascertain if I've leveled too much?
get a good merc or something ._.
Any tips? Im stuck here
Any ideas plz
Help 18-40
stuck on 18-40 as well
Care to provide a picture of the stage, I can't memorate 1000 stages
sorry i was saying that to DanielStoSve but here
You have Fawkes?
ye but he really squishy even when i put my best gear on him
this is my box if you need it
You have to find a spot where he gets to survive a bit, but I'm not seeing it because of the Arden, Brutus in front of Niru might be able to buy you some more time,also you want Rowan to super so he can quickly recharge Daimon's and Belinda's ultimates, so I'm not sure if him being front row is the best. Try to find a way where Rowan survives enough so he can ult
@pale monolith arden roots daimon and chips a good amount of health and roots Rowan right before he gets enough energy + rowan drinks his own energy potion. I think my current best bet is to wait until merc reset
I figured out that, Arden can be quiet annyoing
25-8 please help
WHO DO I BUILD NEXT??!!
Suggestions?
I beat it after like 50 retries I used my Brutus+Mezoth front, Daimon+Ferael+Talene back
ight
any suggestions? wanted to win this before reset to get gaze cards
reset is in 2 hours you should be fine, but my best guess is to have Skreg against estrilda. I don't really know anything else
WHO DO I BUILD NEXT??????????????????????????????
please don't spam this channel but Daimon is a great choice
nah bruh no one responds
because it doesn't belong here. it's not a lineup question. move to #classic-questions and stop spamming
Need some help
That comp didn't work after macroing it too. The first comp on worked when I did Arthur, Brutus, ainz, Rowan, albedo.
I tried your comp for team 2 and I couldn't do it either after macroing it. Didn't even try 3
oh well you got the team 1 
r2 is the hardest fight in this multi
Help pls
Yeah cause mehira + Tasi ugh
What hero should I merc and put on crystal to beat this
Any help??
nara
brutus
rowan
talene
tasi
maybe?
ive heard merc khasos does well against that enemy lineup
Yeah, khasos is the mauler tower 80 hero
any tips for this one?
Yo I just got the game recently what should I do at the beginning I’m very bad any tips are appreciated
Been stuck here forever it seems
Reckon I'll shelf Shamira when I get Talene and build her instead. Dont need 3 carries
talene doesn't work as a carry, especially at E. and if you were to gaze talene before doing anything else as a carry, that'd be either a monumental waste of diamonds, time, or both
though even not using her as a carry, she's just a healbot at E, you'd want other, more reliable (and buildable) support to work on
Well I have izold or Daimon as a carry
daimon is certainly your best option here, granted you can get his copies. izold doesn't work well before ascended 30SI and 3F, whereas daimon works at mythic +20