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don’t worry, @winged breach i did the same thing - despite spending $100 on the game, i went ahead started over and am now on a much more experienced, well paced path. just did a bit more research
@winged breach Ascend Saveas to L. Reset Fera's level and put it all to him. You now have a carry.
Anyone got advice for what my lineup should be? Kind of new to the game still and don’t really know what units compliments others
what do you need your team for? it depends on what ur trying to do, but if you just want a good team go with the strongest characters you have at the moment and make changes from there
@worthy bison
@worthy bison get your free Wukong. Overlevel him as much as you can till 100. He will be your carry. You can check the pinned guide on #classic-questions for further reading
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also id suggest leveling up ur elite plus heros a bit, they will be really good once you do
I'm actually super stuck here. Can anyone help at all? I get kinda close sometimes but it's a tossup
Help~ need advise. Is this good ?
Solid buy don't level hank i think his name is, only level characters that can ascend @orchid aspen
@orchid aspen I suggest you read the 1 page guide pinned in this channel
Wont tree's guide benefit him more? Its extremely detailed
Someone can help me with the line up against this stage please ? 😊
Any way I could beat this stage?
you could also use something like
fera
rowan
eironn
lyca
daimon
maybe take out lyca for talene, not sure tbb
Thanks! The first formation worked...I had tried it a bunch before but I didn't get the right rng. I finally beat it.
Hey guys' any Idea to pass this stage ?
@astral marsh what I beat it with was my line up but take out kren and put tasi I think
i'll try
@violet igloo I can reset hero though ?
This is in Trail of Gods howling wastes, i don’t have Ezio. Help?
@orchid aspen yes :) you can go to rickety cart
Nobody have an answer for Ezio sub?
I am dying help
Can you try doing a
Daimon
Lucius
Rowan
Arthur
Ferael
fera and dai both with haste relics
It takes 5 secs for the fire thing to activate
I am getting one shotted in such case
Also mirel does 2.6m on auto
Been stuck here for days, any suggestions?
Gwyn instead of mirel
Instantly dies
I got it. Put my new mezoth in instead of hogan. I always pass when I ask for help 😂 I'll be stuck for days, say I'm stuck and then pass it
Same here stuck for around 2-3 weaks i cant find a good comp for this qwq
@fresh ferry summon
Merc a not so terrible Eironn and middle pull it.
@fresh ferry
Basically whatever you do, you need to address Ferael.
Its gonna be really hard if you let him stand there stacking spirits.
Trails of God. Howling Wastes. No Ezio. What to do?
@untold ginkgo Well, with Ezizh it's hard but not impossible. The team you have is legit, keep trying until it works. I don't see any better replacement. Maybe Eironn instead of Rowan or Saurus
Hey guys, still have problem with this stage
Trying thoran cheese for the first time, is this setup okay?
@proud edge run it at normal speed first and see what happens. Will Lorsan be able to link Atha before on the dive? Who gets Rowan's mana potion first, Eironn or Thoran?
any ideas? Eironn 5 Pull doesnt work either, he only gets 1 ult off
Lorsan links safiya to nemora, which is good since nemora is the one I can't get close. Looks like potion goes to thoran. I've gotten close a few times, with kaz or tasi having just a sliver of health
Yep, might just be rng. Tasi can be tricky because you need to dmg her to trigger her tp to Thoran the moment he swings his ult
@warm swan finally worked! Tha is for the help
I didn't even do anything there. Lol. Gz
Haha moral support then
Pretty sure I did Eironn, Daimon, Lyca, Rowan, Tasi
Im no longer on the wall since last night pls help
Prioritize levelling daimon if he is your carry. Try tasi or arden instead of cecilia
Cecilia isnt doing you any good really
Tasi removing her would do the same, and also provide a whole team stun
The main problem is axe man is just destroying my team even when i lined him up against immune rowan
Tasi wouldnt give the 3 lightbear synergy and thus my entire team dies
Theyre basically barely living off rowan heals as is, they can suprisingly last 50 seconds but then get destroyed by axes
Don't get stuck on the team you are running right now. Look for a better one. Can you post your whole box?
Ive tried a ton of different teams and that post was pretty much my whole box in resonating but ill post the rest just in case
I also have farael eiron skreg and wolf guy on the bottom
Ive gotten a bit farther retrying this one with rng but my team just lacks damage and rarity to make carries to deal dmg
Not having a carry you can overlevel is definitely holding you back. Mirael or arden or saveas are the best at this point, so for you arden is the best bet. I would have said mirael, but you build a hogan and took rowan to L without a copy for L+ and wasted some LB food. You may need to wait for some fodder to either level or get a carry up to L
Heres a rough idea of how far i got
I wish i had chosen mirael for my first lightbear L+ but i was in a rush atm and linked a hogan to joker
Okay Daimon isnt doing you any favors right now, try arden
He does do some, hea not rn cuz im moving guilds so my links in library are messed up
Ive tried arden in the past but he just cant live long enough, but essentially daimon gives the dmg reduction needed to live longer
at e+ arden should do more damage. daimon needs to ult
Theres about 20-30 minutes till i finish moving guilds
The best run ive done daimon ulted about 5-6 times and they only guys left were axe man at full hp and the two infront with barely any hp
Heres with arden basically i lack the damage reduction later to give rowan time to refresh his stand
@hazy iron no arden?
Nemora
Joker
Izold
Rowan
Mirael
If possible get a better tank izold isnt very good early on, keep retrying till nemora beguiles savaes
tbh mito, ur using4 carries. there aren't a lot of actual supports. maybe throw in rosa and lyca for the haste boost and have rosa follow the main carry to double proc
If you have an e+ arden then do
Nemora
Joker
Arden
Rowan
Mirael
rosas good
plus jokers kinda weird, idk who he linked joker to for dimensional link
True you could but joker stun mixed with nemora beguile is funny
You just let the team kill itself and stay stunned, doesnt work well later on though
I have extra xp left should I use it all on rowan?
I mean you can but it doesnt really matter
Rowan is only infront to set up stand then get pushed back by the horsey, so youll tank can swap with him
Anything to change or simply need more levels and gear
Not sure if this will work but try
Shemira
Brutus
Rosa
Thoran
Safiya
Or
Belinda
Brutus
Rosa
Lucius
Safiya
Would be easier if you had rowan ona. Higher rarity
ye ive not been lucky with duplicates i keep getting new heroes, also izold is lvl 1? shall i remove someone from crystal
You should easily be able to clear it especially if some of your units are higher levels then them
Oh i meant thoran my bad
If those teams dont work you could try using rowan just to see if his heals proc fast enough
i shall try then out ty, noone ever gets an ult off, ill just have to hope to RNG gods i get some more copies
@trim fjord give eye to Nem and put her infront of Fera and see if you can charm him first. Belinda on position 3. You can't ult because of Fera's spirits. And I hope you have stopped ascending heroes to L now.
whats the trigger for nem's charm? she sometimes doesnt bother castin git
She needs haste. If Fera casts his own fear first then it gets stopped.
@trim fjord she only wont cast it if she gets stunned, it should be her second attack
If you could send a recording of how its going it might be easier to tell whats going on
ok ty, jsut alot of retrys i guess, i can get to just isabella elft and she kills belinda, thx for the help guys
Np
Someone, please help, I am desparate
The turtle thing never dies and eirron destroys my whole team when he sucks them in
are those the only units you have?
Pretty much
Help please
@brazen spear that's a really tough matchup for your team. You're gonna be cc'd till you die. Where is that? PoT?
Yea, what does cc'd mean
crowd controlled, aka stun effects and the like
Crowd control, basically disabled
arden and gorvo certainly aren't doing you any favors either
They. dont. die.
I'd suggest retreating for now and level-up more. Or when you get a better comp
dang ok
Why am I getting absolutely demolished in the very first stage
@brazen spear Sorry. You can keep retrying but much better to value your sanity. Also, I hope you have stopped ascending heroes to L without enough copies.
@silk drift Dreaf op ig. Seriously though, maybe position 3 Eironn with call?
wdym?..
Damn Dreaf. tried that as well but I still get destroyed
I'm referring to that L Saurus and L Silas. They're gonna be stuck there for a while unless you get extremely lucky with pulling 2 more copies for them. So that's not really advisable to do. Check the pins on #classic-questions
@silk drift Sub in Tasi. Hope she can help with the cc.
Here's what I used, if you have merc you could try 5pull I guess. Or tasi like taint suggested
But it makes them more powerful in the mean time?..
@brazen spear in the mean time, yes. In the long run, no. You're trading short term gain for long term loss
in short you're tying up fodder in heroes you may not get copies of for a while, along with levelcapping yourself at 140. Stunts your progress.
but I never took silas off my wishlist
Doesn't mean you may not get another copy for a month
ok but whats the point of leaving them at purple plus instead of getting their levels and pwer?
In my eyes, leaving them at purple plus stunts the growth rather then not
Because you're saving fodder for the dudes you get 4 copies of, whoever that is.
What if they suck though?
Making fodder L+ is fine since you'll feed them later. As for 4 skill heroes, your wishlist should only have at least decent heroes so generally the first one you get 4 copies of won't suck
Well my only bad wishlist is lightbearers cause they all suck
The disrespect to Rowan
Rowan took that personally I'll have you know
Well now you're disrespecting gwyn
the disrespect to gwyn and rosa. they're gonna take that personally 
Yeah rosa too, he's insulting all the children
I hate gwyn and the stupid maid
They hate you too buddy
Seriously though @brazen spear , you need to read Bob's name
33-4? or Daimon, my dream character
Next part
if ur hero lvls are below 160, the pins are fantastic
My heros are below 121
Even better
That's the same thing
wukongs damage is going down, how do I save him
You don't
W H Y
He's your friend for 100 levels then gets chucked in the trash till you ascend him through events and use him on your 4th team lmao
Seriously tho read pins
We can understand your apprehension and tbh we could just hoard this channel for every question you got but I think it would be easier for all of us if you can just check the guide first to get a general idea. And if you have questions after that, then just ask in #classic-questions
sorry, I just have alot to ask
We know, and that's a good thing. We don't want you parroting. But yeah 👇
nothing wrong with a lot to ask. but a lot of it is answered in the pins in #classic-questions already
I dont mean to bother you guys, I just learned alot of stuff, Ill head to questions so I stop flooding the lineup
Lol it's not a bother, do not misunderstand. We are not brushing you off.
Thank you
that's my best try in ~50 attempts, what can I change? :/
Horrific stage but here's what I used
@maiden marsh sadly my tasi doesnt survive position 1, guess i need to wait for my merc tasi to be accepted
@maiden marsh but do you remember the artifact you used on daimon? grace, drape or call?
always call
i used this @sour ledge
mehira did better than tasi
wait wrng reply my bad
lol
im seeing it, thanks to both of u ^^
@mild geyser wow 😄 first try with Mehira 😄 thank you
to think i'd have a mehira if that damn tiles event hadn't bent me over
yea that tiles event was rough for a lot of people
How can I beat this?
Who is giving you trouble?
Ira with her ult at the end if Joker and Lucius survives
Who is rowan giving mana potions to?
I'd try dropping lucius to 160 and bringing shem up to 180 and frontlining her
I don't have joker yet so I'm not familiar with how he works in comps
but lucius 160, shem 181+, joker, rowan, nara may do it
160, or 161?
Shem isn't great for late game, but she carried me through ch18 easy
joker likes comps that put out a lot of initial control to abuse all out attack
161 is great if you can do it for the upgraded skill
Yeah, Joker is fantastic for me. I only need to have him survive and he does all the work. That's what Lucius is for. And k one sec
In that case, get whoever joker is attached to the highest level
And maybe try fawkes instead of lyca for the extra control
sword if i remember correctly, havent used her since ch24
Who do I replace with Shem?
lyca maybe? you'll have to try it out
Joker is attached to my maxed M Belinda
And K, let me try.
unless you really need her haste boost
Okay, I tried Shem. She keeps dying really fast along with everyone else
you could try binding joker to lucius, have him carry even harder
Joker isn't doing his skill where he does the animation and boosts energy
True, but I'd lose Lucius as a tank
But on the other hand... I could put furniture on Joker
oftentimes tanks aren't what they seem. rowan is a good tank after all
Rowan is a good tank, but not at ch18
you could try thoran or brutus as a tank if you have them
I have Brutus
@maiden marsh @proud edge both of your suggestions together got me much closer to winning than before.
Several times, best positioning here but Lyca survives on a thread every time, then kills off my Shemira before she can finish Lyca
if its that close run it some more, sometime syou just need to let the rng play out
Wait until ch30+, these tasi stages are basically all rng. I just ran 30-26 over 300 times til it worked
tasi stages are brutal. often recommended to use izold/daimon for those since they can ramp and (hopefully) don't get one tapped
For real. You got any ideas on 30-29? It's got me stuck, cant find much info on it
just watched my daimon kill everyone but tasi on my current stage then she slept and onetapped him at a sliver of HP
died inside a little ngl
I forgot to screenshot that one. if u can post ur box and the enemies I can try but no guarantee
Stage cleared!! Thank you @maiden marsh and @rose flax
All I had to do was kill Lyca early enough then the rest was easy as pie!
Discord is telling me the photo of my box is explicit and I cant send it 🤷♂️
nara mehira or athalia
need a nara or athalia on mehira stages
draw on the photo
your box is just too sexy
You asked for 30-29 and sent 30-30 
try rowan arthur albedo ezio ainz
tbh at 291 they should absolutely faceroll that. if not you can try eironn comp
@proud edge try Rowan, Tasi, Eironn, Fera, Lyca. Chalice, call, call, eye, eye
I thought so too. I had a similar line up going but Rowan falls over so fast. Then everyone else just dies. perhaps it's just my gear on them not being high enough at the moment.
try swapping rowan and ezio and putting your best gear on ezio. see if he can dodge athalia
Alright I can give that shot. Thanks!
Worked perfectly switching up Ezio and Rowan. Thanks again
👍
What were your relics for this? I'm 294 but so far this has me closest to a win
rowan chalice fera lyca eye tasi call saurus i have no idea @proud edge
id assume eye? blade maybe?
Thanks, let me try those
Hey! Really struggling to progress any further, I'm still fairly new and have quite a low understanding so far! I red the beginner guide on fodder chars/how to level stuff but not sure if I've done it right!
Got any suggestions?
what's a pvp counter to ainzbedo
I'd go with Hogan, Shemira - Front; Saveas, Arden, Silas - Back;
Still getting pummelled, probably need to wait for dust/XP for more levels 😄
You're already over leveled in both lvl and ascension
What about Fawkes
Who should i replace to him?
Ezizh probably tho you won't get the +30%def
Ezizh is cool 
His passive really useful for ainz, since im using relic blade on ainz
Anyone have the winning formation for 22-34
Yes I've completley memorized every level
@pale monolith danggg thanks man
No problem 👍
Try Brutus instead od Ghezul, Rowan back mid row and Tasi instead of titan of time guy
Brutus will die instantly because of thane and tasi dies automatically
You dont really get hoe Brutus works do you
He needs to die so his shield would activate, lasting more than a normal hero because of his shield, he is really usefull for me since my hero levels are lower than yours
And switch around a little to try and make Tasi survive so he would freeze an enemy, an replacement can also be Fawkes
The chracters that survived were lucius belinda and tasi right before belinda ults they all die
Its the longest ive lasted on that formation
I've understood litterally nothing of what you said
Looking back neither do i
How do I get past this stage lucius keeps getting his shield off or grezul summon his minions and causing me trouble. If I need to show more of my box let me know.
Ive finished the stage a long with the rest
Who should I go for 🤔
Mehira
hi guys, any suggestions? 🙄

Put Brutus in front of Brutus, Lucius front; Nemora, Shemira, Daimon - Baxk
In this case go mehira but in general you're going to want to choose as many battles as possible to maximise relics and lab coins. If you have issues clearing, merc a strong carry like ainz to wipe lab for you.
Anyone have any ideas for 30-31? Been working this comp for a while with no luck
get daimon to 200 asap, should be fine after that (ascend him to m+)
@pale monolith My team just gets wiped, maybe I'm missing something silly?
Might be the saveas, put brutus in front of saveas for sure, not sure how shemira works though but try working around brutus being in front of saveas. But definitely work on getting daimon si to +20, much better carry than shemira
I don't have Brutus unfortunately 😦
Best team i can use ?
Im stuck halp
You need a carry, you dont have a damage dealer on that team.
Ik check the rarity of everything
Yeah cause you don't have a carry and are using hogan as dps
Wait nvm thats king tower
Heres sorry
Im trying to document every hard level i clear for future use
I essentially had nemora kill the team through savaes
Point stands, get a saveas or mirael for now and work on a proper early/midgame carry
Don't need luck to build saveas or mirael, they're legendary tier. You get them all the time.
At the time for hogan i made a poor decision for dimensionals link
Mauler wise i swear i have none also i only was able to manage hogan due to 7 day log in hogan
Hogan's fine for now, he's a tank and you'll eventually feed him to a proper LB like rowan
Yeah ik ik im probably going to use the rowan from event if i dont pull one since im one dupe off
Anyways i dont wanna sit n do nothing even if theres only a 0.001% chance of winning
Im 4 stages from being back on the wall 
The chance of winning will be a lot higher than 0.001% if you work on a carry. Btw don't level everyone the same, level your best unit as high as they'll go until they're capped then bring everyone else up
Im not leveling the same cuz i want to, its just i litterally dont have any carry option rn and im at least 3-4 multis away from a carry
And putting everything into hogan/rowan is doing nothing since they cant carry
You may just be stuck until you get an L+ carry or get your crystal up higher without a good carry
You could frontline rowan and put arden at 120 in the back, pull mezoth
Well i was able to beat a 141 team with my team so theres a possibility i can go until 160s
Pull mezoth?
Oh sure, theres a definite possibility, we ar ejust saying those chances are significantly lower without the damage
Pull mezoth, put rowan up front with hogan, put arden in the back as you carry
What does pull mean?
take him off your team
Also would a 141 hogan make a difference or no
better to get arden as high as possible, and put rest into rowan
Im using mezoth for 3 reasons though,
1 he gives stun and slow
2 he gives 30% team defense buff
3 his skill doubles his hp and defense making him viable
He tanks harder than hogan
Though i dont have his def buff yet i dont think
then try him instead of hogan
He is also super necesary when for example savaes is last alove his ult makes him a vegetable and does lots of dmg
I need hogan for synergy
you dont need 2 pure tanks, you need a damage dealer
Yeah but i domt have any damage dealers.....
You have arden
Arden deals dmg? Cecelia was procing more than him
I dont have the buff that makes his ult infrease his attack yet
Im 1 elite wilder away from making him legendary
Yes, Arden is a damage dealer with CC and a shield too
Yes. Tasi should help more than silas too
Also i have a free reinforcement change for the last 1 hour before the event ends, so if there any game changing unit i can get it in legendary rarity
I mean you just need a DD. What level would the reinforcement be? At this low part of me says just get a mirael for an hour
mirael would be a good option I think, shes usually the most recommended carry pre-160
Especially since its only an hour
I tried the team with tasi and arden out a fee times and so far its basically gettint one shot
I could try mirael but i just feel like thatd be an underwhelming choice compared to alternatives like persay lucius enstead of silas and then i could have full heal and 15% more atk and 20% more def and a shield, but then id be lacking dmg
Ig ill try out mirael
You need damage, not shields
Nvm mirae isnt an option
Also based on how i won the prior two games it was waiting for perfect rng to live and barely beating it before the clock ends, my team can live pretty well if i synergize it perfectly
Anyways whata the next best bet
Preferably a lightbearer for synergy but i could do graveborn with silas and daimon/thoran for a different synergy
I did it
Don't worry too much about synergies at lower levels, they're important, yes, but not a win condition early on, once you get a saveas or mirael L+ you'll be flying
gz
Should I ascend with my Lucius or wait it out
should be in #classic-questions
but no, wait unless you're running lucius in your main team for some reason
and have managed to dodge literally every single guide in the entire community
He’s my main frontline along with lucretia
Yea I did def didn’t look for guides when I first started
Made some HUGE mistakes
And I meant should I ascend Belinda with Lucius
I cannot get past this
Izold at 2

Izold at 2 would insta-kill him
I was just throwing out suggestions cuz he can’t do much better with anyone else. I was thinking just do sides until his team was strong enough to get past
Underleveled elite izold probably not gonna do much for him however he plays it
Yea exactly
Then much better say that straightforward. @mint nimbus Your underleveled Izold is prolly not gonna work there
Yeah
I have been Struggling with who to put in that last slot the other 4 are always pretty concrete
Try arden, mess with rosa's gear till silvina hits her and leaves him alone. He's really solid cc early on
You could also try nemora although I don’t think that will help
Try to at least max out your resonating crystal
If your wukong can't ult place him against golus so he can proc his clone and has a chance of ulting, I don't remember if brutus/niru procs it, other than that if you can get mirael to 140 resetting kaz to 100 maybe mirael can delete them all
?
And check the pinned messages in #classic-questions so you can get clear advises to progress properly, making kaz/ulmus Legendary are mistakes you could've avoided but not that it can't get fixed
M heroes can get to lvl 200? I don't remember, if they can you should reset nemora and make belinda 200, you're wasting too much fodder on lightbearers making three LB heroes M, one L+ and two L, you should only do one per faction with a maximum of two in only one of them
M can’t 200
You also leveled 6 heroes instead of 5, reset either skreg or shemira so you have more exp and dust to use and just place them in the crystal
Try using lucius backline and if you have talene replace lucretia with her, you're kinda stuck right now with no A carries
Belinda is the heaviest character I have the only one who can tank Brutus until lucius proc but I have no talene 😭😭😭 I’m gonna have to do sides😭😭
Got thru with a L thane 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
You can use brutus to eat some seconds with his passive
I think I’m about to do a mistake here, what’s the best move in your opinion ?
I wouldn't ascend any hero to leg unless u can get to leg+ bc then ull hit a level cap until u can ascend again
but I would aim to ascend Safiya again
Belinda or lucius
rowan lol
Oh?
Thank you, it kinda fit what I had in mind
rowan is really good support
Safiya seems the best choice but you don't have eironn to use her yet, just wait it out if you want, you don't need to rush anything for now
^^^
Why are you asking that, are you planning to use one of those L+ as fodder?
No rush then, thanks ☺️
Only the Belinda because I already have M I’m just trying to see if I should M+ someone or M lucius
Keep shemira at +20, she doesn't need +30 that early into the game
Just revert that L+ belinda in the cart, don't use ascended heroes as fodder
Yeah that’s what I’ve done so far, I’ve read about how much of an investment +30 was
@vagrant horizon why do you have an M Bel and L+ Bel?
Shemira only needs +30 for the nemora boss and if you're too much in love of shemira you can use her as a carry up until chapter 33, at least that's the maximum I've seen a shemira replay
Cuz I’m dumb
Rickety cart her?
Bear with me, she doesn’t show up in cart
How do you counter mehira? I athaliaed but its not working
Either athalia or nara, use lyca frontline and ferael instead of brutus, maybe that works out
I figured it out lol
Without brutus topside just melt
Huh, that's curious. Should be there on revert
This worked for me after nara flubbed
Yea I got it. I didn’t think you could descend 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Gz. Now don't do it again. Lol
Yeah that team seems pretty easy with skriath 3/9, they're mostly static heroes
saf kept annihilating me even if mehira did 0 damage so I took a different approach to deal with the entire backline
Guess im gonna have to wait to merc chicken or athalia
Need a hand
Mv - kill frontline first, any help or your winning comp
Also needing help here - need to win in 15 sec but this thorans second life makes it very diffuclt for me
Good team? ( Just started)
https://prnt.sc/yc8ovt
https://prnt.sc/yc8qys yeah.. i payed a bit in the game but i only got garbage sadly
anyone pleasE?
Is Rowan always > Lucius when we talk about bringing a unit to A? Iam at ch16 and my only A unit so far is my carry Belinda cause i had 8 copies of her very early on. Feels like i could push a lot with a proper tank. Is A Lucius an option or still go with Rowan? Have 8 copies each
I'm not an expert at all but lucius + Belinda took me very far, just stopped using her recently, at ch 26 now. I was lucky enough to get rowan A too
lucius will only see use for a few chapters before dropping off fairly hard
Can someone help me with this one
Any ideas?
try shem brutus daimon rowan lyca maybe
HELP PLS I SUCK IDK WHAT TO DO
@pale kettle try switching eironn and lyca also sub in Daimon instead of Safiya, might have to adjust positioning a bit but I feel like that should work
I'll try that in a bit. Thanks man 👍
Any suggestions for this. I'm stuck
I don’t need a team for like a specific stage or anything but idk if my lineup is good I was thinking. About ascending Belinda and replacing Angelo for mortas or mehira
Get to last 2 casters
Different question. Who should I vote for? Need the win for the 6wins achievement
Hhhhmmmmmmm id say the guy on the left
Dont trust me though
Im bad with battle wagers
I need help here
Grezhul gets one shotted by warek
If placed frontline
Actually he just gets knocked backline and dies
Aye, this stage be a curse. Ferael counter?
Any ideas
Ugh this is giving me cancer
@arctic forge does silv jump on rosa? or who does silv jump on
I've been trying this stage for a while but I just can't quite beat it. Can someone help me please?
would put belinda on bottom back definitely. u want her to hit as many as possible when she ults
Okay
Been stuck on this for a while. Between the heavy frontline CC and the mages near one-shotting my backline right at the start the fights only last a few seconds. I could ascend Saurus but Arden has been putting in work and I can't replace him yet. I can pop a bunch of exp chests to maybe get my crystal level to 140 (141 when labyrinth store resets in 3 days) if needed.
Try
Arden
Lucius
Rowan
Saurus
Fawkes/nemora/Tasi/lyca
How to get this one in 15s?
Any help?
try mine. or another one of these. https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=32&stage=6
I recommend u read the pins in #classic-questions. it's not advisable to build L heroes
I'm not sure I see a solution, but I know belinda is too far to receive rowan's pots which is a big no-no
consider swapping her to position 4. throw fawkes in crystal, as he'll likely be more useful than a non-A thane
Ty for responding Bob. I've since past that stage. I'm on 32-13 now so 7 stages passed 👍
need to see enemies too. positioning matters greatly
I often stick brutus in front of warek for that reason. warek's flips r annoying af but brutus doesn't need to do anything but take the damage
tasi/fawkes may remove ferael. otherwise nemora may charm ferael. altho paired with a brutus these stages tend to suck, losing dodge hurts
try rowan position 4, silas 3, remove nara
any help ?
- I can only see like 7 heroes. post the rest of ur box.
- I recommend reading the pins in #classic-questions.
hmmm. no brutus?
i don't have a single one
I figured it out I just swapped Belinda for Rosaline
basically it's just fodders after that 
They remove Brutus
Nemora is only E+ and not as useful
this just got a lot tougher. do u have an arden or lyca or rosa?
one elite lyca 
that helps. throw her in crystal she's a great support at any ascension.
try shem luci lyca rowan tai perhaps.
still, I'd recommend checking out the pins. in the long term, it'll help you avoid this channel (in a good way
)
it worked with this
gz
Thanks it worked
Am I looking good? Eironn/rowan/lyca/tasi/nemora (ferael/rosa) line up
I’ve been stuck on this shitty stage forever. Someone please help with Mauler 204 😦 I searched the whole discord and have tried every formation listed for 3+ hours each. Like I can swap mercs, I just need to know how to beat it 😢 😢
KT 500?
I need some help
Don't overlevel grez, overlevel belinda
Ill try it but i need good defense for her to survive
Grezhul isnt good defense tho is he
In my experience not particularly, can be niche though
im about to be stuck at lvl 140 until i get another copy of rosa 😦 or am able to make someone L+
U read pins?
me?
When belinda ults she killed 3 people but she was the only one alive on my team shes a squishy kinda
Help.. have no idea how to do it..
Still stuck on 30-31, anyone have any ideas?
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=30&stage=31. most of my lineups are on this site, as well as a lot of other peeps'
Thanks Bob, already checked there. Your's and pippi's solves dont work for me with me being 10-20 levels lower
if u have gear, the lvls shud work out. some of the units in that pic still don't have finished gear (I know I suck lol). also the only reason it took me so long to beat that was bc daimon wasn't A yet. as soon as he was, I flew thru stages
Haha my issue is gear, the dimensionals taking all my guild coins hurts. Daimon is all t2 faction, but borrowing a t2 lb weapon
ah. that's unfortunate. gear, SI, and furn can honestly account for 40+ lvls in a lot of cases
Do you remember your artifacts for this?
Any help please? Been here a while.
eye call call call eye. which might not be optimal tbh
I've since switched to shroud on eironn a lot of the time. and some ppl recc chalice on rowan cuz call gets reduced returns
Holy shit that worked
Haha never would have tried those artifacts, crushed it first go, thanks for the help!
👍
Stuck on 9-20. Any help?
I’m stuck on 10-27, just carted my team, any recommendations?
I would try
Arden
Joker
Tasi
Brutus
Filler
Who do you recommend as a filler?
Usually lyca but can't see her on your roster so probably alna I'd say
that position will almost immediately die no matter what you put there due to Khasos so you barely have any options, the other heroes I'd recommend at such low ascension would be something like Lyca as mentioned and E Talene and so on
Just try around a little bit, that's what I'd initially try
@scarlet hollow since all your heroes are lvl 1,just use 3x faction and one celestial
They're lvl 1 because he just reset carted them for us to tell him what to level
Yea I just carted all expect Angelo bc he was tied to my joker
Try and tell me if it works, otherwise I'll try to think of something
I got everyone up to 101 I’ll dump the extra xp into Brutus
I can get Brutus to like 124
wait
What does brutus lvl 121 give you?
Generally his only use is his shield, his dmg and everything is very trashy. I remember him dealing decent dmg quite early on but that was way too long ago so can't give much insight on that
Brutal defiance level 2
Who should I upgrade, my res crystal only has 2 slots
@scarlet hollow I think that's useful at your level, worst case you'll just reset. Did it work out so far?
@brazen spear I would do Rosaline and Lyca for the crystal
Yes now I’m on 10-40
Eventually I need to bring my team to 120 to push my joker to 141
Alright, but yeah your team is somewhat solid now. Got the CC and damage, it's just about positioning and sometimes enemy comps might be a bit annoying but that's the game
Idk if I should bring tasi and Arden to 120 or put the xp in Brutus so he can tank front row
He immune tanks anyways, put it in arden and the others for now so you can further increase joker's level cap
I’ll have to cart Alna and put her in the crystal and get another person to 120 to push Jokers cap
You want your highest ascensions in crystal to keep level cap high usually
I'm just getting rekt by 20-12
@red fable charm ferael
How
With nemora across from him
Put nemora middle
She just dies
Any Kren comps?
Skirath, Khasos, safiya, who do I upgrade, i have 1 spot open and I already have monke, theowyn, twins, and lyca
Safiya then skriath, you can leave khasos out
I went with hogan because I needed someone to take some hits
@red fable you have to restart until she's charming ferael
I've tried like a hundred times and she just gets killed before she charms anyone
Thoran is the only one that survives and sometimes he kills 4 of them
@red fable well, you may need lyca too then, I guess that numitsu one hit nemora. Try
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Lucius with dura's call
Ainz maybe with dura's eye or so
It's hard bcs you don't have any support, like rowan
I dont have lyca
Weird, you don't have many good heroes, not even elite, did you foddered them?
I think I maybe got one lyca months ago but I've just got really bad luck
If you got one you should still have it
You dont have tasi or eironn also, strange
I can get close but not quite, any suggestions?
@jovial moat nemora to charm ferael may be the best chance
Judging by their heroes they've been working with a wonky wishlist for a while
They should have been in your wishlist from a long time 😢
Hate to see it
Tasi has been on my wishlist since the start
The literal one reason I'm still not in chapter 15 or 16 is ainz
Yea, but still, you have to build the key heroes
@brave oriole Ferrell just scares her out of it guaranteed everytime.
Ainz will Only work for a while cuz of his lvl, then game over
Ainz isn't gonne work after a while because you don't have albedo
@jovial moat try some more haste on nemora, better shoes and maybe dura's call
@jovial moat try this
Lyca
Shem
Nemora
Rosaline
Lucius
I'm curious if Rosa can get to shem at all, if not, then use rowan back of shem up, and lyca front of Lucius
Id fawkes good? Just got him
He’s pretty good
Worth keeping around, can work at e+ for quite a while. Build rowan and rosa before him
Rosa is amazing. She lets your carry ult twice in a row which is huge. Don't sleep on her. Rowan is used literally everywhere, and you'll want to invest in him asap. Twins are great, but not used until much later.
What he said
Twins e+ are a must for everyone, once you hit chap 15 or 16,stargaze 2 copies of twins for e+
Anyone any tips for this lineup?
Lyca, Eironn, Tasi, Rowan, Daimon works at 240 so you should be good
Might need some rng, you should get your rowan up to +30 pronto, eironn too, and tasi to +15 if she isnt already. I like her at +20 personally
This possible?
rowan at 4, lyca at 3 might work"
stop building L heroes
try daimon brutus silas lyca fawkes maybe?
stop building L heroes
Thank you also what are L heroes
#classic-questions can help you out there. I need to go to class
Alr thanks
Any help here?
Would
1 - Your Carry So your main dps.
2 - Lucius
3 - Tasi
4 - Lyca
5 - Nemora Or Belinda
Thanks I’ll give this a go, 2 and 4 at the front?
Ah 1 and 2 at the front, still stomped though, guess I’ll keep levelling
Help :/
Stuck for days any tips would be much appreciated!
Need some advice on what to invest in or what to focus on next. I'm at ~ lvl 305. Just beat ch27 and beat first trial of gods easily to 28 points. I hit 3b dmg on wrizz, and about 2.5b on Soren and can get diamond on most of the bi-daily guild bosses so I'm pretty happy with my units for most content but still lacking talene and a few other important units. I've hit a wall on ch28-1 and tower but otherwise I've got everything beaten.
King's tower is at 373, all others 200-205 except brutal citadel still only 165 (I suck with that faction)
PS. I know I shouldn't enhance so many units to red but I didn't feel it necessary to waste fodder in units I don't use much but warek and eiron are both becoming quite good so I'll enhance them asap.
Saurus is 28/30 on his si.. ran out of emblems 😕
You're lacking mauler carries, safiya should be the M hero instead of warek, if you had her with skreg and brutus you'd be flying on mauler tower, and if you add Tidus after that he compliments very well with skreg-safiya
You should focus on +30 3/9 A eironn, +20 3/9 A Daimon, +20 A safiya
Gotcha. Ty
You also want skriath 3/9 sooner or later to make the eironn Tidus skriath comp which is super strong
And speaking about SI, ferael +20, Tasi +15, you'll want skreg +20 9/9 in a future, the ones I mentioned above, Tidus +20 3/9
Have you missed ainz and albedo?
I must have. I was away for a week or so a few weeks or months ago
Guild booted me. Just in a noobie one atm
That's sad, they're a must have heroes nowadays
I see there's a unit or two used in a lot of pvp or twisted realm comps that a lot of ppl have that I'm missing. I assume it's one of those (I think a dark faction support unit)
Was ainz free? Is he the large mage with the cloak?
Wait me, gotta do tr fuck
Sorry what's tr
you're thinking of mortas
he's risen to TR meta even at elite lately
Ah yeah I see him in a ton of comps
Yeah, mortas is in almost every twisted realm (tr) boss, he works at just E+
Maybe I should stargaze one
I gazed two for the abyssal expedition in case he's needed, but yeah one should be enough for tr
I remember doing the ainz trial.. not sure why I don't have one. Wasn't he just free for 3 days?
Yes, trials are available only for three days
Hmm. Ok well thanks a bunch for the tips.
Heya gang, my team for attack is fine but isn't very good on defense (attackers have priority so Eironn rarely gets to pull), what would be my best line-up for arena defense?
(attack team is first 4 and Eironn...
Defence is first 4 with Warek but unsure/untested)
But yeah tired of easily winning on attack but losing to everything on defense... Please help ^^'
Been on this for days I need help
read the pins to get an idea of why ascending a bunch of legendaries isn't a good idea and who to use as an early game hero (tl:dr mirael or saveas). atm you don't have a competent damage dealing carry
That’s tufff
Guys need some lineup advice. Should I use Belinda as food and go for rowan in the comp? Will Belinda have some use and regret it?
read pins for earlygame ascension and carry advice
I did read it, don’t recall seeing something about Belinda
i was more referring to the legendaries and the carry, belinda's one that will work for a while, though you'll want to switch to a better one like daimon, eironn, or both with time and draws
30-42, no mehira and no izold. Any ideas?
whats a good lineup i should use with the heros i have?
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=30&stage=42 can try mine or the others
try brutus at 1, daimon at 5. if arden is not rooting, throw in lyca.
Haha I've been trying your como, no luck though
Stuck, need help any suggestions on a better formation?
I can't do this level the line up I'm using a line up i saw in the winning line up thing
still cant work dont have enough dps to outdamage numisu+nemora heal duo
and numisu's red totem is annoying hard to kill o.O
i think i need mercen or exp maybe
finally finish it with more CP using talene thx for the positioning i replace lyca/arden with talene
Anyone see a way to do this without a merc or more levels?
if you're not abusing eironn with safiya she's not so helpful
@maiden marsh I was just trying out different things at this point
try nara across from arden instead of safiya
Any ideas
Any advice for what my lineup should look like? I’m just trying to go through campaign atm and maybe for Arcane Labyrinth and King’s Tower as well
check out the pins in #classic-questions
Ohh okie thank you
Tl:dr dont ascend things yet till you have enough dupes, just let wukong or snow lady carry you till your built up more
Okie
Ok so i was pushing farther again well waiting to mass pull tmr for a carry + respen and then this stage popped up...
Pls any ideas would be a huge help....
u don't have a carry. read the pins in #classic-questions
Please look at my list, or read my whole message, and tell me, where do i get a carry
Im not summoning till respen comes out so im pushing for fun
ur supposed to show ur hero pool in this channel...
I tried nara to stop mehira but safiya kept deleting me so I ended up using 5 pull/daimon and powering through
@muted stream
3/9 chicken huh? Maybe id merc that tmr
Ferael
brutus
Nara
rowan
Daimon
I think thats what i used, maybe try it
Stuck on 9-12. Most heroes go down in two hits. Tried a 120 Shemira lineup. Now trying a Gwenyth lineup but same thing. I’m getting wrecked. Can’t get other heroes above 100 as I need 4800 dust and only have 950
Any tips for this?
Alright first things first I see you got shem +20, cool, now pump the brakes and don't touch that sig item again lol
Try using arden and lyca instead of daimon and rowan to root the enemy first
Try linking queen to hogan instead and using arden to root them
who do I use frontline
Queen, talene and rowan are all competent frontliners
thanks man!
Any help on this stage?
Try moving brutus in front of shem to eat her beam. There is a bug where grez can end brutus' immunity tho so see if it's still a net positive
Holy shit, that one replacement clear the stage, thanks a lot!
Hi, can you help me with this stage please ?
Try putting Daimon front row instead of Brutus or Thoran and using Fawkes so he would coffin Mirael, giving enough time for Belinda to ult.
She can't use her ult, Fawkes need to be in the bottom to survive and Belinda must be in the top :/
Helppp i cant this stage
Try
Daimon
brutus
Rowan
shemira/eironn
Eironn/shemira
Omg thanksss i cleared it

Heya gang, my team for attack is fine but isn't very good on defense (attackers have priority so Eironn rarely gets to pull), what would be my best line-up for arena defense?
(My attack team is first 4 and Eironn...
Defence is first 4 with Warek but unsure/untested)
But yeah tired of easily winning on attack but losing to everything on defense... Please help ^^'
Sorry to bother again but who shohld j use to clear this?
Daimon
brutus
Rowan
eironn/shemira/lyca
Shemira/eironn
Should be adequate
Ahhh i kept getting killed lolol
I’m literally about to get so mad
It makes me so mad when I see heroes that can’t be ascended are ascended like ughh
@tidal sun Literally flip your formation. Grezhul has high magic damage resistance making Shemira useless against him. You’ll need the mauler to tank in front of her so that Shem can ult, Estrilda’s charge leaves her vulnerable otherwise. Swap reine for Nara so that she can deter ferael from draining energy for a bit.
Been stuck on this one for a few days. I’m 20k dust short on pushing crystal to 200. Any ideas in the meantime?
Rosaline out of these 2, but ideally Rowan before.
Dont have a single copy of rowan sadly 😔
Help with this one please. Brutus is op haha
guys why on earth can’t i beat this?
I’ve already tried that, having shemira on the other side.
A lvl 120 E+ Rowan cant frontline.
He is 200 free energy for the AI in this setup, put him middle back.
Then try it ten more times, and if it doesn't work try it a hundred more and trust in the variance
Ferael @tidal sun
Its gonna be really hard if you just let him stand there stacking spirits.
Pull it from the middle with Eironn or put Nemora in the middle back then repeat until she charms him.
Might take a bit.
Nemora is very rng heavy with her charm.
I did it with antandra and Rowan in front. Raine, numisu, and tasi in the back
I actually can’t believe it worked, I’ve been stuck on it for almost 2 weeks.
Gratz.
You will face Ferael more often though.
Nemora charm is the most popular way of dealing with him.
You charm him, he fears his own team and you win.
Long story short :)
Any help plz
Helpppp me plsss
Help please
Implement Fawkes. Or arden if You got him. You need a debuffer against that team
Also using 3 hitters is prob not a very good setup
Can anyone help me defeat this team
Try tasi, rowan, fawkes, brutus, shem@royal kayak
Thank youu i beat that stage
Sweet!
I’ve tried so many combos but they just die
Hey guys. Can I get some advice on how to counter Ezizh? Ty in advance
@raven hare He can be nasty. Best thing to do is to get rid of him quick. Place 2 hitters on him. Athalia is also a good counter
Lol he is. Thanks, I am going try both Athalia and saurus. See how it plays out
Seems like you have made the most common beginner mistake, which is to ascend to L without being able to ascend further. That's holding you back big time. At this stage you should not be having to many problems tbh.
I want to get that lvl done cus I want to get the 3 chests behind it and then start a new adventure
How should i clear this
Make Brutus fight Kaz his roar disables her dodge for one
KT 500?
There a chance someone could let me know what to do against this? Been trying different combinations but i can't make anything work.
Could someone please help me with a lineup? Units to focus on?
I've tried every standard formation I can think of but I can't get past this Mehira
Try this setup. I did at 286 so you def should do it easily
Thanks!
...guess I'll save those to try in a couple hours since the game is down now
Merc safiya probably not needed considering she did jack damage
Good evening guys! For those already familiar with AFK Helper, I've added a new section for Misty Valley suggested formations:
https://afkhelper.nax.is/misty_valley.php
tks! my eironn is pretty trash though at A but only +15 and lv220, lemme try
Pro tip.
Remove Ferael's weapon if you use him @wet violet
tks, but what is the reason?
oh is it because tasi will banish him?
Faster fear.
You may need it to disrupt the banish and outspeed enemy Ferael.
It apparently changes his skill rotation.
With weapon he will try to cast Accursed Arrow (takes forever) and then fear.
Without weapon he will auto (much faster) and fear.
See for yourself.
Loss on dodge doesnt really matter as Brutus roar disables dodge anyway.
@wet violet
Any ideas?
Try swapping rowan for lyca
If lucius can't even survive on the backline try lyca instead of lucius then. Or, try arden and lyca instead of lucius and rowan for the instant all out proc
Don't have Arden unfortunately
Okay, problem here is that without Lucius, my team falls apart.
I raised Lucius to 200. I'll try now
Lol, Lucius to 200 worked 
Help plz
Stuck here :/ plz help
Get more levels.
The only two I can level up are Arden and Brutus
Quick start guide in the pins
I'm confused
I just want an opinion on my lineup. I made sure to have at least one healer and have them all be the same faction
Being the same faction isn't important enough to bend over backwards making a team to achieve. The only important thing earlygame is picking a legendary tier carry like mirael and overleveling them.
I don't have any legendaries yet. I only have elites and elites+
This guide says rotate into shemira carry but common advice these days is daimon, he's much better
Yeah, I got this game the other day. Whether it was yesterday or the day before, I'm not sure but the point is, I'm new and looking for tips
When I say legendary tier I mean a hero with 3 abilities, the terminology overlaps a lot. Anyways, overlevel mirael and that'll do you well for a few chapters. Good supports are arden, lyca, nemora, and other CC/healers.
that seems outdated. better to refer ppl to the pins
I mean the ones in #classic-questions (lowkey forgot which channel I was in)
That is the pin lol
OOOHHHHHH you meant the pinned messages. I feel like an idiot
Should probably change that for this channel too then, it is very outdated
indeed
Anyone got a 30-28 team?
The pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions is much better, I recommend a read through
Will do
I should get around to uploading my clears there, have one for half of 26, all of 27 and 28
I've been stuck at 20-12 for awhile now I can very rarely kill all but one of them but thoran always gets killed before he can kill the last enemy any help would be greatly appreciated
Try swapping lucius and thoran then putting shemira in for lucius
I am stuck in 8. Send help
Still stuck on 9-20, is there anything I can do or do I have to wait to L / L+ someone?
thanks, cool website. My safiya will not be able to do that kind of damage unfortunately
@low apex do you have skiarth 3/3?
i cheesed it with five pull 
ya looks like a few people on my list did that too, guess ill just need a few more levels to brute force it with daimon
@mild geyser what did you use on 394 king tower?
i pinged you it in questions
that reminds me i should get to 400 for the new field of stars, at 397 right now
I didn't see it sorry. Thanks man
I am Struggling
Try instead of Arden use shemira
easiest solution is reset everyone to lvl 100 and take mirael to 140. u want the carry to have much higher lvls
Level up your heroes more
who to focus on go wu lv 120?
Your carry
Anyone able to help stuck on 10-19
I'm not sure if I'm going the right direction here...
And I have these to ascend but not sure which one to ascend here
Can somebody help? Any advice is welcome 😬
Don't make ascended tier heroes legendary if you dont have 8 copies of them. It really really hinders your progress by weeks or even months
You need/needed to focus on making 1 hero at at time from each faction ascended to increase your level cap and get your resonating crystal to 240
Any tips would be very welcome
u don't have a carry.
also, eye does best on high dmg or high crit characters, not on tanks
What should I do
I mean like something I can do right now to pass this stage
Anything I can do here better
Use Nara on the athalia, I assume she kills tasi really fast,
nara cannot pull athalia before her first strike. nobody can.
u lack a brutus which is unfortunate. try hendrik lucius lyca ainz rowan.
brutus isn't even good for late game after like chapter 18
brutus is meant to tank athalia. one of two obvious counterpicks until a player gets good dodge gear
also ch18 isn't late game at all
Oh really? I saw someone here mention nara for athalia before that's why i thought it's a counter
facts I'm stage 25 and still use Brutus from time to time when I just need someone to tank damage for a few second
I suppose I could be wrong. I've just literally never seen it before.
brutus and rowan are the two obvious counterpicks until u get high dodge heroes. talene/thoran too I suppose, but I've never seen nara do it
@summer cedar do you have any idea for the stage I posted a few messages ago
resp is too new I have no idea how viable he is or isn't. maybe try tasi rowan lyca eironn daimon. it's a team I commonly run but I'm unsure if ur gear will allow it to work
sorry I must have missed it earlier.
anyway if rowan is frontlining, I would not put daimon in the opposite corner. he usually doesn't get the pot or the coins there
That's the lineup I was trying but silvina kills the tasi. which is why I was trying resp lol
Also tried safiya where drez is but she doesn't deploy her shield
I backlined tidus here. dodge athalia's first hit, then fear her and get rolling
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=25&stage=32 maybe try this?
Who'd you put in the front
idk. might have been safi and vurk since brutus and skreg were tanking the athalia's? my maulers were not built optimally
Hmm... Keep trying but no luck
Can someone help in stuck
maybe switch rosaline with Belinda? u may just have to wait until u can level up more tho
Is there hope for me to beat this Misty valley level
grezhul stages are a pain with ainz but try moving brutus in front of ainz, then swapping antandra with ferael for more cc and stall
beat or complete the gold challenge?
Just beat.. bronze 🥲
Thx :D
if I were you i'd merc an arthur and use ainz comp to nuke em but you could do a number of things really. any super strong merc could probably sweep you to victory, and checking other's clears is helpful as well
If you use ainz
He can’t survive long enough
that's why I recommended the arthur merc, he could help with that
I had a merc ainz and I beat it
Help... any help
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=48 try one of these
Anykne have winning formation for king tower 399?
holy shit whoever made this is a god 👐
I'm stuck on this stage I need help😭
Hey guys could I get some help with this tower floor
Ty il try
How do i beat this one? its the last of the practice arena
Stuck for ages need some help
merc eironn maybe?
What is a good team for me to build out of what I have?
wukong carry till lvl120 then go mirael or saveas, check the pins in #classic-questions for more extensive introductions on that
arden lyca estrilda and rosaline are all good supports to round you out for now
Also thank you Bob. I macroed it, did errands and came back and tidus backline worked
how do you best 11-20?
try arden instead of queen
@maiden marsh queen has been working much better - already tried :/
ah well. try swapping saveas and queen, bottom seems like less dps incoming
i think it’s actually the top that gets hit hardest @maiden marsh i googled it and it seems this level is notorious for people to get stuck on
yeah, since the top has mirael that'll be more incoming damage, so better to have queen disrupt and tank it rather than saveas, your carry. have him towards the bottom to safely pick people off while everyone else stalls
side note: if you can reset others to 120 and push saveas closer to 160 that'll be a huge help
try replacing shemira for rowan then moving him middle back
Any one know how
Thank you but no luck 😦
do you have a nara?
daimon has problems against ferael, try using nara to hook and disable ferael. he's the problem here
What's a good joker comp? I havent had any issues yet but I wanna be more efficient
@upper wraith
ferael
tasi
athalia
rowan
daimon
actually swapping fera and daimon there probably better
the thing is that my whole team dies literally in one shot. gorvo jumps tasi and rowan dies. mehira instantly destroys everyone else.
so im wondering if i should just level up my crystal first
ferael
rowan
lyca
tasi
daimon
then for r2, something like
rosa
arthur
gwyn
estrilda
numisu/oden
ok this is a bit old fashioned, but try this
tasi
rowan
athalia/nara
lyca
eironn
tag sushiguy, he cleared this chap with lvl271, he knows more
Help :(
will give it a try, thanks 
I tried Nara (she’s only E+ lol) could work tbh maybe I’ll just keep retrying. Thanks again! Was stuck in a similar stage last week used the friend’s help to pass the previous stage today. Maybe have to wait till next week haha
Yeah ferael always sucks to fight with daimon. Hope you find a solution!
I need help, I can’t beat this level!
Rowan rosa front, Belinda lyca tasi back maybe unless you have better options
Just want like a general formation I can use. I've had this formation (well it was Thane instead of Gwenyth at first) since I hit like idk level 70 on ppl or something. Now I don't really know where I should go with it for faction combo and stuff (Thought about possibly doing things based on what I could summon but no point in relying on that I don't think) At the later part of Chapter 9 in campaign. All help is appreciated :)
Also I have enough stuff to ascend Antandra to Legendary
Go to the pins in #classic-questions and take a gander. That'll answer most early game questions you have
@maiden marsh ah yeah I read some of the google doc in pins and basically I gotta redo everything lol
Stuck in kings tower. I feel like i can brute force it but i just cant seem to make the last push to win the fight
With?
the best team could be
Go to #classic-questions and read the pins. All you need is there for you.
Any ideas ? Stuck by days
can anyone help me with a formation that could beat this fight in krens arena?
ive tried a bunch but i cant seem to beat it
also stuck on this level is there a possible formation i can use to beat it?
Help plz,
I can not defeat this.Help pls
Can’t last more than 15 sec with any lineup I’ve tried. Any advice appreciated. Stuck for days.
You dont have a carry
Daimon...
He/she does.
(Shemira)
The bigger problem is absolute lack of sustain untill Nemora ults.
Also Ferael is borderline useless pre lvl 221.
Im talking about the person above I know the most recent one does
Try remove erionn, maybe move rowan to mid back and put Lucius behind Talene
Worked somehow.Thanks
Yeah that Lucius behind Talene is a very strong combo
Anyway I came here cause I was stuck. I've been stuck here for the past 24 hours. I really don't know.
Advise
Joker
Thoran
Rosaline
Brutus
Fawkes
Make sure Fawkes survives so he can coffin Mirael and prevent her from using her ultimate
Tasi
Brutus
Mirael
Queen
Rowan
Need sole help saveas and lyca just deleting all my team before they can do something
Queen is linked to Mireal.
Well, i dont need to explain why this is a pain
Can someone help me with lineup for trial event of the bomber dude?
I’m struggling a bit with the campaign, I started playing 2 days ago
Here is my lineup and my box, could someone help me please ?
Any ideas?
@vernal mantle there's a guide for that one floating in afk.guide
@burnt lagoon get your free copy of Wukong and lvl him up to 100. He will be your carry. Also, have you used the available codes? And have you checked the pinned guide?
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@hollow cloak Is there a specific reason for Niru there?
@warm swan No xD
@warm swan do u have Any ideas for that line-up the mireal is literally insane
@burnt lagoon Click the link I posted above.
@hollow cloak Try switching their positions and go Brutus, Shem, Lucius, Arden, Tasi. Or maybe Rosa for Tasi.
Any tips ? Nemora in front of Ferael doesn’t work as she gets one shoted and in front of the enemy Nemora she gets her charm cancelled by Ferael, no matter if I run Lyca or not
Has anyone managed to get through LB Tower 367 since the Antandra buff?
@warm swan okay but besides wukong can’t I make my lineup better than what I have now
Later on I want to do an antandra team. Full of assassins that target the highest attack target thus benefiting from her SI and also letting her snowball from her active skill. Am I crazy?
@burnt lagoon not much you can do yet aside from using Wu till 100ish then switching to fodder-tier heroes till 160ish. Mira/Sav as carry, Arden for cc, Hogan for tank, things like that. Keep pulling heroes when you got 2700 diamonds. Just don't ascend A-tier heroes to L without enough copies and you'd be good.
Last stage
hey guys, whts the best lineup i can make from all this heroess?
Hogan,Saveas - Front
Daimon, Rowan, Arden - Back
whatt no lyca and lucius??
There's not much to go on with your pool yet. Just ascend those fodder-tier heroes first to L+. And "best lineup" would usually depend on the enemies. Also, Lucius is paper, most of the time

