lineup-help

[sour pond]

so and why does your eironn still gets banished first ? is it bc your eironn has higher atk or bc lyca dies too fast ? idk if its possible that she gets skipped bc of death

[granite apex]

okay i put blade on and now my lyca gets banished first

[sour pond]

good

[granite apex]

idk what other artifacts i should be running for this level

[sour pond]

the other artifacts seem fine to me. maybe also call on ainz if you want

[granite apex]

alright, i guess imma just go rng the fuck out of it, thanks

[sour pond]

ur welcome

last team - any ideas what would has the highest winning chance ?

[granite apex]

thanks for the help chonkachu I finally did it

saf was allowing my tasi to banish the other tasi before they could banish one of mine

[sour pond]

gj

[winged olive]

Stuck on this stage, pretty much any backline hero just gets insta-popped, any advice would be appreciated.

[summer cedar]

ty!

[proud edge]

Which enemy is giving you the most trouble?

[pale kettle]

ill wait till orion is done before i give you any advice

[winged olive]

It's quite hard for me to tell tbh, the fight is usually over in seconds which I think is because of the Hypo mages combining to one shot my 121 backliners (making Fawkes, Tasi, Nemora, Rowan, Rosaline useless). Both frontliners have CC which is making it hard for Saurus to do his job.

[proper glade]

Anything I can do except getting ohko d?

[sour pond]

help. still stucfk

[quartz bridge]

im stuck there too

[wraith wadi]

I get them like half dead then nemora heals then all up and makes the invincible. Tried to snipe her with both Nara and Fawkes with no luck. Ideas?

[scarlet hollow]

Stuck here :/

[sour pond]

:@@@@

[empty jasper]

@scarlet hollow send entire list with that many legendaries alrdy u should be able to clear it

[scarlet hollow]

Can’t use the mercenaries on the top left of the last list

[empty jasper]

was your choice carry the thoran?

[scarlet hollow]

That’s a reinforcement

[empty jasper]

from the mercenary event right>

[scarlet hollow]

My carry is joker tied to Angelo

[pale kettle]

A line up suggestion got too many hero I'm lost

Chapter 7

[empty jasper]

yeah thats fine, if you can swap thoran for tasi or another good wilder, since you have eiron itll make good synergy, then use the arden to stun them so they cant get farther

basically all of chapter 9 if you want to push hard is using a level 121+ joker with a pure wilder team; also saurus could be a good choice too

[jade prism]

Been stuck at 9-24 aswell
Help please!

[empty jasper]

@pale kettle ur set up looks a lot like wut my alt got stuck with, just change the team according to what the enemy has and try to be creative, dont set a choice team untill you have enough dupes of anything

[sour pond]

help plsss

[scarlet hollow]

Yea I wish I could use a mercenary Daimon so I can add shemira to the team for the faction bonus

[empty jasper]

@jade prism do you not have the joker/queen trial anymore?

[jade prism]

Nope

I can get queen for 3 days actually

[empty jasper]

@scarlet hollow sadly graveborn wont help u much for the next 2 chapters its wilders and lightbearers, also shemira is almost dog water now, i woulnd't suggest putting all your faith in her cause she'll only get worse later daimon though is op

[pale kettle]

@empty jasper hmmm OK 👌

[empty jasper]

@jade prism if you can change out savaes for belinda or shemira, ive seen quite a few other teams just use belinda to get through chapter 9 then try to possibly use tasi, saurus eiron and rowan, if that doesn't work just keep trying to make teams with syngery buff, it makes a huge difference against higher level teams

[scarlet hollow]

Shemira was great for me early and I built her bc I could tie a dimensional to her but yea my box is mostly too heavy towards graveborn as and maulers. I only have elite wilders and light bearers except for Eironn :/

[jade prism]

Ok I'll try it. Thank you

[empty jasper]

@scarlet hollow i beat all of chapter 10 with pure elite wilders and joker to carry

[scarlet hollow]

So should I wagon everyone and up joker past 120 and keep wilders at like 90

[empty jasper]

For reference this is what my team mainly was, though im in chapter 10 now

try to keep team at base 100, but joker at 121+ is crucial

[scarlet hollow]

Damn I don’t have those top three

[empty jasper]

they can be swapped out with others and if your reinforcements gives a legendary you can just pick up a legendary wilder which would be a big help, but keep in mind chapter 10 is maulers which is wilders weakness

oh you have pippa nice, a lot of people were using pippa in chapter 9, though i dont think i have one yet

pippa is very rng based which makes him perfect for story grind as he can either be very op or very bad

[jade prism]

@empty jasper Thank you, it worked!

[empty jasper]

np gough

[scarlet hollow]

I was thinking erionn pippa gorvo and Arden plus joker

[sour pond]

when i played afk arena in these low chapters, i didnt even know this dc and didnt spam away the real difficult stages

[empty jasper]

hicc

[sour pond]

cough cough cough ocuhuhughauisd

[scarlet hollow]

Who should I reinforce? Tasi not Saurus?

[empty jasper]

it seems the newer servers or at least server 802 that i put my alt in is highly competitive, everyone is hardcore grinding since their were a buncha perfectly lined up events to powerhouse up, first in 802 is already at 19-8 and its only been 3 days

also chonk, gl not even my main is in the 30s yet

[lime quiver]

@sour pond I have my 32-32 screenshot if you want it, maybe you can clear it with my formations

[sour pond]

yea it can only help, would appreciate it @lime quiver

[scarlet hollow]

@empty jasper I can’t get my joker past 120 should I put my exp into Erionn?

[empty jasper]

probably best if you could find the dust needed to get him past, have you done the peaks of time?

[lime quiver]

Try using brutus instead of gorvo

[empty jasper]

basically every 20th level is a huge level difference compared to every normal level, the hero will become way stronger, but you can put the remaining xp in either eiron or get more to 101

[scarlet hollow]

I’m stuck on the third one

[empty jasper]

but getting him to 121 is best

[sour pond]

ty : )

[scarlet hollow]

I only have 724/3000 :/

[empty jasper]

@scarlet hollow have your done; kren trials, the dreamscape event, and bootcamp challenges

if your in server 802 like me you should easily have enough to get to 121, but if your in 803 then it might be rough

[scarlet hollow]

I’m too weak for kren I did dreamscape and boot camp yea

I’m on s801

[empty jasper]

@scarlet hollow kren isn't based on your stats, they give you preset units, I could give yo uthe teams to clear it if you need

[scarlet hollow]

Ohhh I saw their levels and didn’t even try

[empty jasper]

just set up these teams and it should clear them all, though i think you might need to adjust units on the bottom 2 if you keep losing I had trouble with those 2

but the loot is defintely worth it and it gives a free elite

[lime quiver]

He probably don't have the majority of those heroes

[empty jasper]

i mean, i did the same on my first trial, i just took one look at the level and said yeah no

[scarlet hollow]

Thank you🙏🏽

[empty jasper]

np

also @scarlet hollow if you still have peaks of time left to do but trouble doing them I can friend you with my main, its not the best but it has a few ascended/mythic heroes you could use for mercenaries if you need

and finally make sure u do forest mania, its a super easy puzzle game and gives loads of loot

[scarlet hollow]

I did forest mania, just finished the kren trial, and yea I’m on “secrets of the forest” for peaks of Time

[scarlet hollow]

What’s your friend id?

[empty jasper]

alright, still odd for you to be so low on essence, do you buy essence daily from shop? also my id is 96176889, my alt is using my best mercs though so if you already have someone with ascended mercs, mine will probably be worse

[summer cedar]

KT 450?

[empty jasper]

@scarlet hollow

[scarlet hollow]

not letting me search by ID only name for some reason

[empty jasper]

the name is wolfie with some spaces after e, but theres like 100 people with the name wolfie.....

[brave oriole]

@scarlet hollow maybe there's space in front, from auto correct

[scarlet hollow]

:/ wont work im manually typing it too. mine is 121630515 Joker pfp

[empty jasper]

alr ill try that

@scarlet hollow i sent it

[scarlet hollow]

added!

[empty jasper]

that was fast

[scarlet hollow]

I just got out of my run lol lets hop[e it lets me use your merc

i have to wait 5 days it says 🙃

[empty jasper]

rippppp

if you have the merc though it should let you use it for other more important stuff, like peaks of time and arcane library, u can use them infinitely in there

[scarlet hollow]

This is how it’s going lol

[empty jasper]

if your still suffering on dust theres 2 ways to get out of it but both could harm u later on

1: your bag has chest that give you loot for certain hour increments, but their better if you save em as long as you can

2: you can reset the shop using gems and grind buy essence like crazy from the shop, but it cost more and more as you do it

[scarlet hollow]

I opened all the ones in my bag in despiration and im at 1344/3000 and i bought from shop

[empty jasper]

oh theres also the arcane lab shop, you can get 1000 from there for really cheap, though you should save all your arcane tokens, thats probably the one thing you can get from arcane lab if you really need

but dont get anything else if you want joker/queen before the collab ends

at any rate you might just have to wait it out a bit

[scarlet hollow]

i already bought joker bc i lover p5 lol but ill wait for daily reset bc i have some faction scrolls and ill summon on wilder to hopefully give me a push past this stage

[empty jasper]

oh speaking of which the only thing you need to save 10x summons for is gems because discount, theres no special buff for saving your scrolls for 10x summons.

anyways gl and have fun

[drowsy locust]

Hello, guys. Should I swap Belinda for Saveas before 160 lvl? Will he be better carry? Just for me Belinda lacks survivability and need too much time to store energy for ult ( which is her main damage source)

[scarlet hollow]

Thanks im hoping for some luck🙏🏽

[languid pier]

help pls

[summer cedar]

saveas behind a brutus is insanely good up to lvl 160. easily better than belinda

[summer cedar]

I would think brutus does better than talene here but not totally sure

[languid pier]

I have tried like 600 times with him no luck thanks tho

[summer cedar]

artifacts?

[languid pier]

had chalice on tasi, eye on ainz - nope

[summer cedar]

rowan wants call or chalice typically

[languid pier]

https://gyazo.com/00f7646d639287cc09240954c21ec6ab

https://gyazo.com/790d7ae82236d94859f64b94730e2cf3

what about this one, call on ainz and tasi, chalice on rowan

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-cry-reading-pepe-the-frog-sad-gif-17607942

if anyone got any ideas pls @ me

[pale kettle]

Help please

[summer cedar]

hogan izold saveas rowan arden

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=30&stage=31

[languid pier]

^ is there anything similar where you can select ainz only comps?

[onyx rapids]

https://prnt.sc/xzsee0 any tips for this Stage?

[cyan solar]

Howling waste trial of god-36. How the hell do i beat this?

[vital kernel]

Could really use some suggestions for this team and/or how to improve thoran cheese without rowan

[hollow palm]

If you have Ezizh, use him

[vital kernel]

I can usually get 1 ult off from thoran but for some reason enemies stop on both sides of him so he doesn't hit everyone, partially because talene reviving

[hollow palm]

even dead, Ezizh is free energy

[vital kernel]

I do have ezizh L but isn't the defence boost counter productive?

[hollow palm]

do you want to cheese without Rowan or not? 😄

run Thoran with weapon/boots only and you'll be fine

[vital kernel]

I'd like to save rowan for a different team

Even if I can get by without rowan in my 2 good teams I'll eventually need to do 4+ teams and will need rowan elsewhere

[hollow palm]

you have 3 options for energy battieries, Rowan, Ezizh and Raine, however in this situation Raine won't do much

[vital kernel]

Oh I guess I do have raine, nerds used her and ezizh in his team... I always forget about mercs

I'll try some more with ezizh. Should I drop talene for her or flora?

[hollow palm]

Raine can be used instead of Rowan in Ainz/Albedo teams, so she is nice to have

Talene is the better cleaner in this team, keep her

[vital kernel]

I've never pulled enough copies of raine oddly enough even before the wishlist changes

I'll drop flora, thank you. Need to pass this today

[hollow palm]

good luck

[brazen spear]

Could someone help me?

[summer cedar]

read the channel description. then I'd be willing to take a look. can't promise results tho

[brazen spear]

mkay

There you go :)

[summer cedar]

1. you only need to lvl up 5 heroes.
2. lvl up wukong to lvl 100
3. read the pins in #classic-questions for a lot of good advice

[brazen spear]

I dont know how or who to make a team with

[exotic trellis]

Due to hoarding habits I have 200k diamonds, should I start spending them all for summons so I can push farther? My current ascension goals are Hendrick maybe, Daimon, Thoran, Saurus, and Skreg/Tidus

[unique parrot]

it definitely couldn't hurt to lmao idk how u manage to hoard that much I blow it as soon as I get enough to do 10 pulls at once 😭😭

[pale kettle]

hey guys i’m stuck here, any tips?

[summer cedar]

swap rowan and lyca. more lvls into saveas

[brave oriole]

@exotic trellis well, its a big lost every month the hero of choice, build your heroes. I personally can't see any reason of saving that much, bcs in the end its the same thing , pulls. I only farmed on my alts for buying fragments later, and I

[pale kettle]

@summer cedar u think it would be useful for joker to replace lyca?

[summer cedar]

no idea. I'm f2p haven't used joker at all

[pale kettle]

aw icic

[summer cedar]

lvl 100 wu kong, hogan rosa estrilda numisu maybe. it doesnt matter too much who wu has beside him

[empty jasper]

Im stuck

[brave oriole]

@empty jasper izold it's not great yet, link with ainz. And then make a team with Saurus ainz rowan lyca and Brutus, you need Brutus up vs warek this stage
Lyca
Brutus
Ainz
Saurus
Rowan

[empty jasper]

This explains a lot tysm

[pale kettle]

8-20, not quite sure what to do besides just waiting to level everyone up. Also just now pulled lyca and daimon

[empty jasper]

My brutus is only elite and my lyca is elite+ though, wouldnt tasi or something work better?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle do not lvl more than 5 heroes, reset everything you lvled starting from Saurus. Then add the exp on Gwyneth, till lvl 140, and add rosaline in your crystal

@empty jasper not rlly, lyca gives haste that you need for ainz, and Brutus tank warek and saveas for a short time, but enough for ainz to get energy

[empty jasper]

Ainz cant oneshot though

[brave oriole]

Ainz should be middle, lyca up and rowan back of Saurus

[empty jasper]

Ainz doesnt even live long enough to shoot then

[pale kettle]

so having gwenyth, tasi, shemira, belinda, and grezhul be my 5 is good at least? or should i go like daimon instead of grezhul or swap belinda with rosaline n stuff?

[brave oriole]

@empty jasper well, how it's looks your team now? I'm curious if saveas is hitting Brutus on start

[empty jasper]

One sec ill send a clip soon my phone bout to die

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle if you use gwyn overlvled, don't need shemira, but rosaline. Try to get a rowan also. For support. For a while Gwyneth will kill fast everything

@empty jasper you close I see. Do you have arden? Maybe the root will give some time more. Instead of Saurus, maybe you can get a better tank for ainz, Lucius is one, then i think of tidus

[pale kettle]

so i should reset shemira too then

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle well, she's on crystal, I meant to reset the ones that are lvled out of crystal t get the exp back. You need shem for faction tower or so, soon if it's not yet unlocked

[pale kettle]

aighty, now to just wait for crystal slot cooldowns to finish i guess then

[brave oriole]

How's your heroes now? @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

i was able to get gwyneth to lvl 119, im way out of exp lmao

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle well, use Lucius tasi front, rosaline, gwyn middle and last one, Belinda or ferael etc

[onyx rapids]

Best Account of those 4? just started on new server https://prnt.sc/xzuh7f

[pale kettle]

aight thanks

[brave oriole]

If you need a slot in the crystal for Rosa, costs you 100 diamonds to remove the 24hrs CD

[pale kettle]

nah i have one slot thats only got an hour left

[brave oriole]

@onyx rapids way to early for picking one. Need maybe a few weeks to know. But, you can play all 4 anyway

[onyx rapids]

wdym play all how should i do that xD

[brave oriole]

Well, one hr costs a few diamonds, not 100 @pale kettle

@onyx rapids yeah, I'm Doing it, and it's nice

[pale kettle]

oh it scales nice

[brave oriole]

@onyx rapids you play normal on all, doing dailies etc, many ppls are playing with alts on this game

[waxen anchor]

because they dont like afking? @brave oriole

[vital kernel]

:( eironn refuses to ult

[summer cedar]

I used shroud on eironn for this one.

[vital kernel]

I can't switch anymore sadly and he's stuck with call

[summer cedar]

oh nvm this isn't helpful. ur doing stage 2

[vital kernel]

Bout to call it a day at this point and try again tomorrow

[summer cedar]

I might swap in tasi for rowan. but yeah tasi stages suck

[vital kernel]

Get rid of rowan for tasi?

Eironn still dies in .2 seconds either way

Ferael is fearing almost every attempt right after the pull

[summer cedar]

sorry. I'm out of ideas. I always try to save daimon/izold for tasi stage not sure how to 5 pull this

[vital kernel]

QQ I'll try over again

[summer cedar]

gl

[vital kernel]

done for now gonna try later lol thank you

[pale kettle]

hi, does anyone have a tips for this one?

[hybrid bolt]

Is there a reinforcement I can add to blitz through chapter 26-22?

[hollow palm]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d9fjVuaNM6p-mfNJTc9GyZw0DAM5AkQDYLz0PgF63tI/edit

This stage is so notorious, that there is a guide, made only for it

[lone thunder]

I use daimon ascended as my carry. Still new player so curious if I should finish Gwyneth to acended or focus on rosalina to buff daimon? I can get one more rosalina from choice chest in my bag

[grand perch]

Hello @lone thunder,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[unique parrot]

can someone help 🥺 this might be a situation where I just need to wait until I can level up or ascend but I'm super stuck with everything rn

[wraith wadi]

At a complete loss here, nemora just makes everyone invincible

[unique parrot]

try replacing fawkes with nara maybe? ud still get a faction advantage and she pulls whoever she's across from to her

[wraith wadi]

Yeah I've tried Nara and she gets her down to like half, I don't think it's beatable till I can burst down nem

All my heros die like immediately

[unique parrot]

do u have enough dust to level up nara? she's not level capped at 100 so u might just have to wait until u can yk

[wraith wadi]

I've been trying to max Shem just have Nara at 100 for crystal

Usually use Hogan and Fawkes for faction bonus

[unique parrot]

in the long run if u take ur top row out of crystal and get them to their current max level that will work better since rn they've gotten stuck at 100 but obviously that doesn't help now lmao

I think until u manage to level up some more heroes ur gonna be stuck :/

[wraith wadi]

Yeah, gonna try and do side content I guess

[pine marlin]

Am I outleveled? I feel outleveled lol

[real schooner]

@unique parrot I don't have any good suggestions for you with your current set. It seems like you're relying mostly on Brutus and Belinda for damage(?) but the enemy Grezul is going to negate 20% of your Belinda and Brutus isn't the best carry. He's more of a support for your carries. At that point in the game, I was shredding teams with Shemira. You don't have to use her since she's not too useful later, but I think you need a good carry like Daimon, Ainz, Eironn, or such. Or just level up your guys till they can just kill that team 😅. Or maybe rent a good carry next week!

[mild geyser]

Maybe a lyca but with those heroes you should be able to get to chapter 29

Maybe even chapter 30 tbh

[chilly condor]

for 9-20 what level should my heroes be? im kinda stuck 😦

[stuck trellis]

5 pulling tasi is a very bad idea

[brazen spear]

I just reset every other character then wu kong and I got 3 new pirple characters, can someone help me build a team?

[scarlet hollow]

@empty jasper yooo I beat chapter 9, on chapter 10 now, who should I legendary? Or should I just keep the elites and put them in the fountain?

[empty jasper]

@scarlet hollow for now only legendary fodder without using ascended units (units that you get at elite or higher), wait till you have 4 dupes of a ascended hero to legendary it

If you dont wait your units might all start getting stuck at legendary and itll really slow you down

So for now just get hogan to legendary using only fodder, then get him to legendary+ you can then easily use him later to make a good unit mythic

[scarlet hollow]

Okay thanks!!

[empty jasper]

Np

Also nice job getting to chapter 10 @scarlet hollow ur probably going to pass me soon xD

[scarlet hollow]

Should I run this formation?

Or swap gwyneth in for raine

[empty jasper]

@scarlet hollow you wont need to you mono lightbear too much early on, just stick to your wilders tell savaes starts showing up, also, only use one lightbear tank and swap the other out for gwen, shes very good at killing back row

[nimble fossil]

So I was told to use an Eironn comp, but the one I was told to use...I must be messing up the formation. What’s the correct placements?

[empty jasper]

@nimble fossil not sure if this will help, but it might give you an idea, this is what i used for my heroes of estria team and it worked pretty well

Also not sure if this counts as an eiron comp team or not, but i had a good friend of mine help me make it

[lime quiver]

That's a weird eironn comp, you normally want to use Tidus if you're using skriath 3/9, the eironn comp should be either Tasi lyca eironn rowan ferael/Safiya or eironn safiya skriath Tidus lyca

[lime quiver]

Gwyneth is only good if invested and at later stages, it won't do anything for him at early game once the enemies starts ramping up

[lime quiver]

Check the pinned messages in #classic-questions so you get an idea of what to aim for

[empty jasper]

Was it really necesary to ping me for that and furthermore in terms of what he had for lightbearers and conscerning the lack of resonating crystals early game, he doesnt have many alternatives

[lime quiver]

Try this if you can mimic it

It is, don't give bad advices to him because it will mess his progress

[vital kernel]

interesting setup, thank you. i have team 1 down again, still have either izold comp, ainz comp, or thoran cheese remaining for last 2

[lime quiver]

It's best to show him the pinned guides in questions so he can take his own conclusions, but gwyneth being only E sucks as a carry

[empty jasper]

Please dont throw around tier list labels they dont work in any game and their always biased

[lime quiver]

Yeah I've used thoran trial idk why, just to fill it out I guess and it worked out

[empty jasper]

Also i never told him to carry with gwen, hes been using joker since its easy to connect to any fodder unit and does decent aoe early on when u dont have other ascended units with high tiers yet

[lime quiver]

They're not tier list, they're just early game advises about wishlist and good early game carries, tanks, supports, etc.

[empty jasper]

"Being only E" doesnt count as a tier list mkay, so i can assume theirs no D C B Or A units gotcha

[lime quiver]

Whatever dude, I'm just trying to help him just like you also try, I'm just pointing out that it's not optimal for him what you're telling him to, nothing personal, I also said bad advises when I started playing for a few months 🤷‍♂️

And E means elite ascencion, not being rank E in a tier list

[empty jasper]

I dont mind you helping him out but theirs no reason to ping the other and complain to them, especially if you didnt read it all, everyone should give advice thats great but dont personally bring someone up and tell them their wrong unless your wanting to talk to them about it, otherwise i can understand where your coming from

[lime quiver]

If I wanted to ping you, I would've done this @empty jasper, I just replied to you, it's not my fault discord takes it as a ping, if it bothers you I won't reply you ever again, as I'm not here to feel pro throwing shit at people calling their mistakes out

We all make mistakes, we're all humans in here

[empty jasper]

I can understand all that, but if you want to talk it out more do it in dms or a different channel with me, im worried people are starting to avoid the chat

[lime quiver]

Nah, it's cool 👌

[empty jasper]

[stuck trellis]

@nimble fossil if u were given a formation screenshot, then u would read them like this

as for that stage, i would try something like

ferael
rowan
tasi
lyca
daimon

maybe swap fera daimon

[nimble fossil]

I
Do not
Have Ainz

I tried all these, but Brutus is screwing me over

[drowsy gazelle]

Try
Daimon

rowan
Ferael
brutus
Lyca/talene/tasi

[jovial moat]

I know I can beat this, I've gotten so close, but I can't figure it out.

[unkempt sphinx]

Any heroes must be up in chap 33? This is my heroes btw

[pale kettle]

Help ?

[narrow lark]

The Khasos on some Bs I swear..

[nimble fossil]

I think because there’s no formation bonus, I keep getting the same result. Like, how I’m being obliterated, every time, it happens exactly the same way

[drowsy gazelle]

Maybe throw in a thoran?

[nimble fossil]

I did it
Threw in Thoran and Eironn

[drowsy gazelle]

Gratz

[drowsy gazelle]

In case ya needs it

[nimble fossil]

Ooh ok

[muted stream]

This stage is so cancerous. Any ideas?

[nimble fossil]

I’m almost at that stage

[muted stream]

Ty!

Wow lyca frontline really worked this stage. I was hesitating because of brutus roar but somehow she still tanked so much

[drowsy gazelle]

Its much easier for you since youre 30 levels higher than me xp

[muted stream]

Yeah idk how ppl push that fast

Im using A 30lv up and still struggling

[drowsy gazelle]

Ypu need the correct comp and placement mostly. Synergy as they call it

[muted stream]

Which ch are you in now?
And what lvl are your heroes?

[drowsy gazelle]

Lvl262, 29-46

[muted stream]

Bruh

[drowsy gazelle]

Stuck here for eternity i bet

[muted stream]

U got 28 20?

[drowsy gazelle]

I only recently started saving ss, i dont have much chap28 clear. My friend literally screamed at me to save my clears, so i only have chap29 xp

[muted stream]

Damn idk why but i have 0 talene

[drowsy gazelle]

I just ainz for that since i cant get daimon to work lop

[muted stream]

Does alna play any role there or just for the faction bonus?

[drowsy gazelle]

Tank and faction bonus

[muted stream]

Can i add you so i can see the winning formation?

[drowsy gazelle]

I just added someone, so its full sry

[muted stream]

Ah ok

[dusky sentinel]

The enemy team is too durable

[river warren]

Suggestions, please!

[pale kettle]

Hardstuck still. Halp

[warm cobalt]

Any advice here? Getting one ult from Ainz but it’s not enough, Athalia is ulting and I’m done.
The Brutus is from reinforcements

[proven rock]

help pls

[pale kettle]

can someone tell me if i should replace lyca with joker? ;-;

You need to max savaes asap instead

Try using daimon instead of savaes a couple of times then with lucius, see if that helps

[pale kettle]

.

[crystal badger]

Could anybody help me with layout on this one?

[odd canopy]

What hero should i get from reinforcement event to beat this annoying athalia

[meager coral]

Should I make any changes to this? Starting chapter 8

[pale kettle]

i understand i need to max saveas asap but lyca or joker is btr in my lineup?

[pale kettle]

if you have to pick from the 2 go with lyca

alright thankiew

[warm cobalt]

someone? (:

[charred ermine]

How much hp is left on the enemy team w 1 ainz ult?

[loud musk]

Could somone help me out in figuring this one out idk how else i could line it up

[warm cobalt]

I’ll need to get the second one sadly, probably plus the 24 sec dmg

[wicked gazelle]

Tasi’s teleportation counters athalia tho she may not teleport ever time so you gotta try rng it; in short try swapping Tasi with Lyca

[empty jasper]

@pale kettle link savaes with joker and get rid of savaes instead

[pale kettle]

Oh

Then if I wna continue increasing the level of joker i should level saveas up?

[empty jasper]

When units are linked they share the same level and rarity so yes

But youll be able to level them even after linking them

[pale kettle]

ah

[amber halo]

I'm slowly aiming towards daimon comp, what team formations are good choices compared to what I have from ur experience?

[charred ermine]

Eirron and Chicken 3/3 with the 5 man pull is pretty good as well. But you'll eventually need Gorvo + Tidus or an Anoki inorder for him to survive the pull though

[loud scroll]

Is theowyn or Kelthur more useful for campaign/tower?

[bleak hawk]

Any advice on how to clear this one?

[fallow ruin]

Just a bit stuck

[silk drift]

I can’t beat this. When I focus Eironn on Eironn, Thane finish me off. When I focus Eironn on Thane, Eironn finish me off

[charred ermine]

if you can still merc, imo, it'd be good if you can borrow an Athalia or a Nara and temporarily stop Eirron while you deal with thane first (Not sure if your Elite+ Nara can do the job tho, but might as well give it a shot lol)

[silk drift]

For some reason Eironn can’t stop Thane now I guess Eironn isn’t strong enough to kill Thane befor he ults🤔

Thane staight up ignores Rowan and go for Eironn 🤔

[paper basin]

Im a little bit stumped here. Just wanna get a few more diamonds

[jagged pike]

Rowan
Daimon
Belinda
Shemira
Maybe tasi?

Idk

[velvet belfry]

Brutus/Hogan
Lyca/Tasi/Daimon @paper basin

[paper basin]

Thank you, and thanks baden

[velvet belfry]

You can put Rowan instead of Lyca as well

[fallen canopy]

Can i improve this ****?

[scarlet haven]

What is a good formation base on my heroes?

[sacred drift]

Once i ascend daimon, who should i focus on ascending next?
Bottom elites are saurus rigby nara werek and baden

[manic violet]

Being stuck there i can't takr down this nemora before all my team die

[still rune]

any tips guys ?

[outer gyro]

Need a hand

[hallow token]

What do I upgrade?

[narrow lark]

Dont use any L+ ascension tier hero as food. Just be patient

[lofty gust]

Any comp i shud try ... ? from my heroes

[empty jasper]

I got stuck they just nuke too hard

[silk drift]

I already beat it but thanks

[mild geyser]

probably dont need too good of a nara

[onyx rapids]

HeyHey need some help im stuck at https://prnt.sc/y1doeg

Those are my heroes would like if someone can get me out of this mess https://prnt.sc/y1dpjy

[vital kernel]

Have you tried swapping gwyn out for like lyca or something @onyx rapids

[onyx rapids]

i did... but still no chance sadly 😦

is nara good? idk for this stage

[vital kernel]

Well you can either try more supports to help daimon or try leveling Mirael instead for now

Could try lucius in the front so he can potentially get a shield off before dying as well instead of having daimon tank

And honestly you'd benefit a lot from not leveling everyone evenly and instead just hard pushing someone else to 120 like Mirael and the rest at 80

[errant wing]

Any comp with safiya, joker, gwyneth? I was thinking rowan as a fourth. Any idea for a fifth? Ill swap them up depending on need

[vital kernel]

@errant wing why do you want to run those 3 in a comp together?

[errant wing]

Aoe fast clears

[vital kernel]

Generally, 3 carries in 1 team is not a good idea

And just an E Rowan isn't too helpful, he can be good heals but you're missing his sig

[errant wing]

What about if i make joker ascended by binding with gwyneth and run safiya joker? Fill in with 3 others?

[vital kernel]

That could work sure, I don't know anything about joker though other than I assume he wants someone there to cc

[fallen canopy]

Hei guys, im pretty dumb, can you help me form a better team? Or should i keep this? Should i reset anyone?

[errant wing]

Any ideas on who? Maybe tasi?

[vital kernel]

@errant wing tasi yeah and rowan can be helpful for that too

@fallen canopy you're off to a good start but I'd recommend you build a saveas if you can, to replace ankhira

[errant wing]

Hmm so joker tasi... Safiya rowan Lyca?

[vital kernel]

Yeah test that out and see how it works

[errant wing]

Ill unbind joker from belinda then and bind with gwyn! Thanks

[fallen canopy]

Should i reset ankhira and upgrade saveas? I mean im at stage 7 and i am getting destroyed

[vital kernel]

You don't have a saveas yet, do you? I don't see it

[fallen canopy]

Oh nvm xD

My biggest problem is that i cant do lv2 lab and story is insanly hard

[unreal granite]

Any tips plz?, my team just dies soo quickly lol

[pale monolith]

I'd go with Thoran, Daimon - Front; Mirael, Rowan, Arden - Back;

[tribal steppe]

Any ideas?

[summer cedar]

merc a tidus. that's what I did

[radiant eagle]

Can anyone help out with stage 33-60? It is pretty much impossible, I am literally giving up on fighting anymore.

[candid lava]

what are the enemy's

[candid lava]

third team suares auther front then kren left then nara left oden middle

[candid lava]

fourth team theane and moler bear front earon and chicken with totom dude

[candid lava]

fifth team whatever

[potent lion]

Heyo can someone help me to beat this stage? Thats my current lineup and my heroes

[candid lava]

can i see all ur characters for every faction

[potent lion]

1 sec

[candid lava]

kk

wait

do u like solo leveling

[radiant eagle]

Sorry man, but the formations won't work

[candid lava]

ahh

try again

the rng could change the fight

[potent lion]

https://imgur.com/gallery/Sz8GKJR

Is it working?

[candid lava]

ya

fuse the luca with the hours thing then make it acended

[jovial moat]

I'm so close, please help, it ain't even a boss stage.

[candid lava]

@potent lion fuse khasos with totom dude and the guy with the cross bow then make him legendary+ then use the other two legendary+ characters to make him mythic+

[wraith wadi]

Think this is doable? Been trying a while now and don't even think it is tbh.

[potent lion]

So: lyca with ???, khasos with numius and vurk -> L Khasos and the other two to get him mythic + ? @candid lava

[candid lava]

the character that looks like hours fuse hear with lyca

u have two other l+ characters u can us them as food

[jovial moat]

Arash what level are you? This seems like a really short-sighted plan.

[potent lion]

Which lyca? The mythic or the epic+ one?

[candid lava]

chapter 16

the mythic

[jovial moat]

I wouldn't recommend fusing non-fodder heroes into your heroes ever, only use the ones that reach L+. If you don't have them, have patience.

[candid lava]

true but is he going to use them

think about that

[jovial moat]

Ya, and he may need to use the others at some point too, it's a waste, that's all it is.

[candid lava]

his khasos can get to mythic + while the others can't

[potent lion]

I already made khasos m+ but i dont want to use anything for lyca

[jovial moat]

Just wait, you're really close.

[candid lava]

that might work try

replace taci for khasos

[marsh solar]

Plz and thanks, I’m mad stuck

[potent lion]

Nope its the same as before, i get deleted but thanks for the help

[brazen spear]

Why did you build saurus? I was told that he is bad

I need help on learning who to build

[candid lava]

ur welcome

[urban egret]

What’s good for multi team chapter 31

[tacit slate]

@brazen spear Your first priority is making Legendary+ of the following heroes: Saveas Mirael Arden Silvina Hogan. These can be replaced with any heroes that start at blue/rare but you must have either Saveas or Mirael

[brazen spear]

But.. saurus is bad?

[urban egret]

Saurus is good wtf?

[brazen spear]

Thats not what I was told

[tacit slate]

Saurus is not useful to you at the moment but he is not bad

[urban egret]

Saurus is incredible late, for now build shemira

[brazen spear]

Ew

[urban egret]

Or Belinda

[tacit slate]

You need to have a proper wish list set up. You don't have enough heroes to make any strong decisions

[brazen spear]

Ok now my saurus is lvl 80

Was that a good or bad idea

[tacit slate]

It was a bad idea. Your Wukong should be lv100. Everyone else lv60 or higher

[urban egret]

I rlly think Saurus is fine lol

[brazen spear]

Wukong is lvl 100

115 actually

[tacit slate]

oh I see, right. You need to make the legendary+ heroes I mentioned because wukong will soon be level capped, and you will have to use mirael or saveas instead

[brazen spear]

But I dont like them

[tacit slate]

Then don't come to discord asking for advice

[brazen spear]

But there is another wukong in the shop, why dont I just get him and make him better

[marsh solar]

Need some help here thanks in advance.

[pale kettle]

Tried absolutely everything I doubt anyone will be able to tell me anything I havnt alrdy tried.

[tender mesa]

Have you tried totem dude

[pale kettle]

ofcourse.

[tender mesa]

He doesn't get to use anything I guess

[pale kettle]

yep even with a full support team they still get nuked

[tender mesa]

Is this kren trial or from the event trial ?

[pale kettle]

kren trial

ive tried him but he gets instantly killed like not even a second can pass

[tender mesa]

Maybe lyca to boost haste so arden can use roots

From the event trial

[pale kettle]

yeah that setup worked for people but the sad thing is im missing both

[tender mesa]

Can you get her from the trial event ? Reinforcements you have arden I can see his head

[pale kettle]

ohhh

yeah i can get lyca let me try one second

[tender mesa]

Think about something better tho

Don't hurry up I'm not that sure

[pale kettle]

alrdy got lyca ehh well ill try her w arden one sec

[tender mesa]

But I guess the fire lady will nuke you when she gets to ult so

[pale kettle]

yh only belinda or sometimes lucius survives that

[tender mesa]

You can add tasi to those two maybe and tank with belinda and lucius or even rowan just for the cart

Just give it a few retries with lyca and arden

[pale kettle]

yeah arden can only bind once before dying to axe throws and the rest instantly die followed by lucius and belinda

yeah ive been stuck on this stage so long i dont know what to do lol

[sonic aurora]

Please help me to create my team i tried everything

[empty jasper]

Last one of the chapter and the faction scrolls i want are out for only 4 more hours

[onyx rapids]

Yoyo i found an old account of mine i need some help please i dont know what i should use as a team

https://prnt.sc/y24033 https://prnt.sc/y2415h

[proud marsh]

im not great at it and i dont know all the names but id go with: pic 1: row 1 column 1, r2c3, r2c5, r3c1, r6c3.
interchange r4c1 and Ainz as needed

[onyx rapids]

What? im confused XD

[onyx rapids]

ooooow okey u sure?

[empty jasper]

link ainz to mirael or whatever witch lady is called and just carry ez

[onyx rapids]

shouldnt i use the 3th card of mine @proud marsh

[proud marsh]

Tbh im not familiar with her but probably

[onyx rapids]

https://prnt.sc/y25f6q

[empty jasper]

@onyx rapids lucretia is alrighht but nothing special, probably not something you need to focus on much right now

For now try to get ainz higher above all your others and get the rest evened out at level 101-120 then just make a team that stalls untill ainz wipes the field

[proud marsh]

i agree with the stalling for ainz, see if you can get a faction bonus to boost their hp.

1: will heal so she will keep people alive, 2 when lvled up makes a shield when ulting, 3 puts enemies to sleep, 4 groups enemies and then does aoe ability, 5 ainz is op, 6 makes decoys that will tank aggro

[empty jasper]

"5 ainz is op" lmao

7: speeds up your team so that other twam cant catch these hands

[onyx rapids]

hmm

and how should i place them

[empty jasper]

Also try to get more rowan copies if your can, hes litterally the best unit you can get aside from dimension/celepogeans

[unreal granite]

Any tips on how I could beat?

[empty jasper]

@unreal granite ainz behind Brutus with a rowan and a lyca and albedo for dmg buff

[unreal granite]

Alright

[proud marsh]

the paladin at the top second right would also make a good front liner

[unreal granite]

My Brutus is only elite tho 💀

[empty jasper]

1 albedo 2 brutus 3 lyca 4 ainz 5 rowan

@unreal granite mine was too but it doesnt matter u only need him for his immunity

Your basically stallling and retrying till ainz kills at least half and then if you have his sig item hell just keep ulting till they die

[unreal granite]

Yeah it’s at 29

Tried this but they all just die super quick

[proud marsh]

id put the paladin & #2 in front, #1, 5, and 3 or 7 in the back

[onyx rapids]

who is the paladin?

[proud marsh]

top row second from the right

[onyx rapids]

lucius?

[empty jasper]

@unreal granite does your rowan have sig item to fill ainz super fast?

[proud marsh]

maybe im bad with names XD

[unreal granite]

It’s at 20

[empty jasper]

You can litterally beat levels just by having only ainz alive as long as other team doesnt have immunity, is the vedan going batty?

[unreal granite]

Yeah and the niru is a huge tank cuz of the faction bonus

[onyx rapids]

https://prnt.sc/y274b2 like this?

[proud marsh]

should work

[unreal granite]

These are the only heroes I got if that helps at all lmao

[empty jasper]

Yikes, the only other idea id have is match it with a team of wilders or wilders + ainz engine

You could do an eiron comp but i suck at those

[unreal granite]

My eiron is not built AT ALL I think his sig is at like +10

[empty jasper]

Yikes, he might still work if you have the t1 and t2 gear but xdoubt

[unreal granite]

This is my main team but I’m saving up lab coins to get Arthur to replace wukong cuz he seems a lil out of place. They get wiped pretty much instantly

[empty jasper]

Just curious why you chose to build monkey over talene or twins though but yeah

If you get albedos sig 3 then you could defintely make a good dimensional team

[unreal granite]

Lmao the free ones in the beginning of the game and event chests 😂

[unreal granite]

That was my plan once I get ainz +30

[empty jasper]

Yeah defintely farm the chest for sig 3 looks like you need it for rowan + ainz + albedo whichll take forever

[unreal granite]

Yeah 🤦‍♀️

[empty jasper]

Just keep in mind rowans is probably the most important as he makes ainz do an ultimate almost immediately

[unreal granite]

Alright I just have 0 to upgrade

I’ve been starting to stargaze for talene as well so we’ll see how that goes

[empty jasper]

Next time an event like the one that recently came out does make aure to farm em, thugh i forget what the recent event was called

[unreal granite]

The sigil one

[empty jasper]

Yeah that one, defintely gave sum good stuff

[unreal granite]

Yeah I missed out on 4 chests 🥲 that’s like 80- true pain

[empty jasper]

Rippp, not to mention you couldve gotten twins/mehira/icey guy which is a good 25000 gems

[unreal granite]

Yeah 😭🤚 I only have them three at elite

[empty jasper]

Gl

[brazen spear]

I just got silas

[unreal granite]

Is Silas good?

[empty jasper]

Pog silas is nice, but dont build him untill you get 4 of him

[brazen spear]

No clue

Thats why I came here

[empty jasper]

Silas can shred early game and late game too

[unreal granite]

Oh- I have him M+ should I keep him in my wishlist then?

[empty jasper]

Hes good for killing one thing or getting rid of brutus shields/thoran lifes

[brazen spear]

Ohhh

[empty jasper]

If its not ascended then yeah hes def worth it

[unreal granite]

Oh okay ✅

[empty jasper]

Just dont keep stuff on your wishlist that are alrdy ascended

[unreal granite]

Really? Uh oh

[brazen spear]

I just reset gweneth so I could get silas to lvl 81

[empty jasper]

Youll get more dupes for ascended from plces that give random random elites but eventually you have to fight sets of 3 battles and then sets of 5 battles and so you need all your units to be built up

Now back to the big important question, how will my alt beat this before 3 hours ples halp

[unreal granite]

Do they kill you too quickly? Or do you lack damage ?

Talene op

[empty jasper]

Both

If i really make a good team then theyll live for a bit but then in they end they lack damage and also get one shot

[astral marsh]

Hey guys' any help for Kren Arena ? Please

[empty jasper]

https://preview.redd.it/egd6bxchlvc61.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=10687b26e6e65eb5be72bc33483d79d272f11e17

[astral marsh]

Ty

[empty jasper]

@astral marsh the bottom two on this guide are sometimes wonky, so you might need to move then around but im pretty sure it should work

[unreal granite]

What if you put joker in the back and then Brutus in the front to buy time?

[empty jasper]

Ive tried that formation too but i can always try it again

[unreal granite]

Did it get destroyed?

[astral marsh]

Got it perfectly with this Line UP. One shot all ( except the leftmost (in sand) i just move fawks in place 1

[empty jasper]

Ye

[unreal granite]

Damn

[empty jasper]

Not much i can do about it but ill keep trying

[unreal granite]

Alright, have you tried getting talene? 😂

[brazen spear]

I just made saurus legendary, I used a purple+ ogi and a purple+ eiren I think his name was?

[empty jasper]

a, sorry was working on sum work but yeah talene isnt that easy to get 4 days into a server... the only guy that got a talene in my server reached chapter 20 and everyone else is in 12 through 8 right now XD

@brazen spear ..... i told you not to build saurus yet and defintely dont use heroes like eiron.... eiron is practically the best wilder especially since later on he becomes op

only use fodder heroes never any other types to upgrade your heroes

[brazen spear]

Oh..

[empty jasper]

well at the very least dont waste the chance you just got @brazen spear make saurus as high a level as you can unless your team already goes past level 140, but untill 140 keep saurus 10-30 levels ahead of the rest of your team and quick grind to chapter 12

if you need help with team formation lmk

[brazen spear]

Got it!

I also made silas lvl 100

[empty jasper]

a friend of mine even passed me with a weaker team solely using saurus carry

He even beat the 10-40 im on rn

[brazen spear]

He doesnt seem very strong, but I cant tell

Oh wow

[empty jasper]

Make him much higher than the rest of your team and match him to the graveborns

[brazen spear]

My highest guys are wu kong which I maxed, Silas which I maxed, and saurus which is 87

[empty jasper]

The replay was basically his entire team except saurus died then saurus killed everything alone

@brazen spear only level 5 heroes the rest you place on a crystal and theyll automatically be the lowest level of the 5 you leveled

Change out wukong for saurus and then keep evwrything else at around 100

[brazen spear]

Ok I will level izold, wu kong, silas, saurus, and numisu

And everyone else goes on the crystal

[wicked gazelle]

I used saurus as my carry until around the start of chapter 30
He’s a great hero

[empty jasper]

kurr halp me clear 10-40 on my alllltttttt

[wicked gazelle]

I barely know what I’m doing lmao
Maybe mezoth or Lyca infront if vedan since I’m guessing joker is your main damage dealer

[empty jasper]

ya but joker can also tank, thats the weird thing joker only does damage if my team stuns, but he can do a massive amount if my team stuns a lot

[wicked gazelle]

I see
I don’t know much about joker aside from using him in trials

[empty jasper]

i wouldve easily just arden this but for some weird reason arden isnt doing anything

do they have some immunity or something?

[wicked gazelle]

That’s weird
Rng it til he works? I don’t believe they have immunity to his roots

[empty jasper]

well ive tried it countless times and his roots just dont pop up, they did once but it was 50 seconds into battle....

[wicked gazelle]

Hm I’m not sure tbh
I burned through most stages with saurus or shemira on my alt

[empty jasper]

my account got botched and pulled one of every wishlist rather than any dupes...

[wicked gazelle]

I feel that

[rotund idol]

Current line up for most content is lyca and talene in front, ainz, rowan and queen in the back, what should I be working on to improve my comp for end game?

[empty jasper]

rowan sig 3 and tasi

[wicked gazelle]

Don’t invest too much into shemira, unless you’re using her as link for ainz/queen

Also, saf Eironn comp is very much worth investing

[rotund idol]

Ainz is linked to seminars, i didn't invest too much i got all the copies for free from pulls

Shemira*

[unreal granite]

Same

[wheat gate]

What should I do?

[empty jasper]

i beaaaaaat 10-40

@wheat gate your using joker to carry enstead of daimon?

[wheat gate]

Yeah, its reinforcement

[empty jasper]

o nvm ic ic, okay so in order for joker to carry u need a lot of stuns/voids. use units like arden or rowan, or queen, every time 3/5 or so of their team is stunned joker will inflict massive aoe'

[wheat gate]

Yeah, I just overleveled mine and made him lucius link. I don't expect him to all out all of the time because I don't have much CC but his ult does a decent ammount of damage

[empty jasper]

@wheat gate your missing out, you could easily kill teams that are over double your rating with him by using his aoe stun which does more than his ultimate

First off you need joker in front, he changes to match the enemy so he wont take much damage, the side just leave something to stall

Fill your backrow with rowan arden and either lyca or someone who gets rid of the strongest ally

I dont see an arden though do you have one on legendary +?

[wheat gate]

Ok

[empty jasper]

Arden + joker is nuts every time arden puts roots one someone joker is pretty much gaurenteed to aoe

Like my alt just reached 11-4

Merely using joker, my main is lazy and stuck in the 20s though kek

[wheat gate]

Ok

[empty jasper]

Just beat that stage and the ratio of attack ratings was even higher so im sure if you keep trying you could do it too

[outer gyro]

Need a hand

[proud edge]

Swap shemiras levels into daimon and get him up to +20. Until then, try izold front, Rowan middle back

[proper orchid]

Literally any time I have a problem with Arden I Nara hook him. Mine is elite plus too and it almost always works

[proud edge]

Highburn Stronghold Tog stage, any ideas? Got the boss after this so trying not to lose anyone

[coarse cradle]

No twins I guess? Try swapping talene for fera

[proud edge]

L twins so I could use them. Where at?

[coarse cradle]

Wherever they don’t die

[proud edge]

Ain't that the problem. Swapped for who?

[modern matrix]

I need help on 15-40

[unreal granite]

I would nara the isabella

[modern matrix]

My heroes

[unreal granite]

I’d put thoran in front and Nara the Isabella

[modern matrix]

k

[unreal granite]

U could try and use tasi and shemira

[modern matrix]

alright

Not working

[unreal granite]

Sorry

[modern matrix]

Instead of nara I can use someone else but reinforcements end in 4 minutes

[unreal granite]

Um hmm

[slate flower]

need help 17-6 any tips ? waiting for dust 😦

[summer cedar]

show rest of box

[wintry agate]

Any advice?

[slate flower]

sorry just check your message sir

[summer cedar]

thoran brutus arden/lyca/tasi rowan daimon. I'm not totally sure which hero works best in slot 3 so play around

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar u have any ideas

[onyx rapids]

https://prnt.sc/y39x0a

[summer cedar]

can't promise it'll work but reset rowan to 220 and push daimon to 240

[maiden marsh]

If you're a daimon expert any advice for my roadblock a post or three up?

[summer cedar]

when did I claim to be a daimon expert?

[merry thunder]

Ohh really alright!

[maiden marsh]

I mean you have daimon in the name and seem to be ch33 so I thought maybe you knew some specific lineups or somethin

[summer cedar]

daimon>>> just means daimon is super frking strong. and I was really happy to get to ch33 lol

[merry thunder]

It’s working better but I’m having issues with the athalia

[maiden marsh]

lol I know the feeling. Either way I do need help with mine

[summer cedar]

that said, daimon likes stall so he can get his shield up. thoran brutus fera nara rowan tasi lyca etc are good allies.

[maiden marsh]

Here's the specific situation

[summer cedar]

what artifacts u running?

[summer cedar]

i have never seen 5pull with daimon. if it works it works, but I would think skriath is unnecessary here. lyca/tasi/fera are good subs

[maiden marsh]

Yeah I typically run a more traditional setup but 5pull has worked in places before so I was experimenting

[summer cedar]

tasi gets call. lyca gets eye or grace. athalia stages do tend to be high on retries just bc of dodge rng

5 pull drops daimon for more cc. problem is u don't have tidus or gorvo so I imagine some variant of daimon comp would do better here

[merry thunder]

And what formation do you think would work the best @summer cedar

[maiden marsh]

This is what I usually use and have been trying a bit but it goes quite sour

[summer cedar]

I run something similar but I have either tasi or lyca not getting rowan pot. fera always gets rowan pot if I run him

[summer cedar]

depends heavily on how much dodge ur characters have. I generally frontline rowan but that's cuz mine has maxed gear

[maiden marsh]

Yeah I move em around, atm I have ferael middle back which has the 'best' results so far

Best is quite relative when I can't get a kill lol

[summer cedar]

for this particular stage I'd run tasi rowan lyca fera daimon maybe. I find that daimon tends to kill estri faster than baden, which is big for the SI obviously.

[maiden marsh]

Poor guys just get absolutely melted and daimon can't do jack when he needs to 1v5 against ferael

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar

Thank you 🙂

[maiden marsh]

Nice job

[summer cedar]

gz

[slate flower]

oh okay thx b4 i will try it later..

it works with arden at slot 3 big thanks

[crystal trench]

hello, i need help with my line up

i have Lucius (lvl117), Gywneth(lvl134) front line then i have Tasi(lvl117), Lyca (lvl 116), Nemora(lvl116) backline

am I lacking anything?

[urban salmon]

@maiden marsh try this

[maiden marsh]

Thanks, will try

[rustic jungle]

Is this team/lineup where i want to be? Im struggling getting through chapter 11-20+ Am i just missing unit levels?

[summer cedar]

that's an endgame lineup that's heavily reliant on high dodge. it does not translate to ur level
you should not be building L heroes. read the pins in #classic-questions

[crystal trench]

Is there anything i can do to improve my lineup?

[stone halo]

need some help

[summer cedar]

swap ferael for nara here. gonna be difficult if u lack dodge gear

[stone halo]

eh only have elite+

[summer cedar]

doesn't matter. just needs to stop mehira's bats

[stone halo]

worked out ty

[summer cedar]

👍

[onyx ridge]

@crystal trench u can run rosaline instead of gwenth, and move rosaline to front and nemora to back

[crystal trench]

my roseline is only elite + :/

[halcyon igloo]

best set up for chapter 6 cause idk what im doin

[coarse cradle]

Read the pins in #classic-questions

[unborn cove]

Now the the reinforcements is gone, i'm really stuck on this stage. I'm not sure who to add to my resonating crystal, or what to do to progress. I used to have rowan in this comp with the event but now i'm a little stuck

[rapid path]

tips? 👀

[maiden marsh]

Moved eironn but it worked. You're a lifesaver

This game though. 30+ tries where everyone dies in 5 seconds and this one where no one dies and it's not even close lol

[urban salmon]

@maiden marsh glad it worked out for you! 👍

[maiden marsh]

Is there like a compendium of clears like this to browse or did I just get lucky you had this saved?

[urban salmon]

You can try to search the stage here and see if you get a hit. I usually save all my clears but for chapters 30 and below wouldnt be much help since i used solise as my carry haha we didnt have daimon then. Just so happens i saw your stage and that was where my alt was currently at 🙂

[maiden marsh]

That worked out nicely then 😅 thanks for the idea of searching the channel, usually I search reddit first but it's pretty sparse and not usually very helpful. Good luck in your own campaigns!

[urban salmon]

You too! Cheers 🤙

[drowsy gazelle]

Guess my replays of chap28 and 29 cant be shown to everyone huh. Since i used 3/9 grez instead of eironn+tasi

[manic violet]

Tips?

[scarlet depot]

Need help with this any tips?

[amber badge]

Can anyone help me with Wilder 229? I can get anyone for reinforcements

[small acorn]

Who does fawkes coffin

You have 3 tanks and 2x dps. If you can keep fawkes off belinda i would be running more sup heros

[raw rune]

Huh, I always fail with putting daimon in front of estrilda, I always move him to bottom/top bl is that wrong?

[mystic furnace]

Does anyone has a good comp for this?

[mint nimbus]

Who should I put in this last spot? I'm a little stuck, I'm aiming for lucius or any other healer but this is all I have for now

[drowsy gazelle]

You might be able to replace grez with tasi or any other tanks

[jagged pike]

Assuming you mean that circle attack grezhul beccause hes the only one that survives 15 seconds in

If your talking about placing a hero in the coffin no one

Poseiden ults and kills my belinda

And half the team

Thanes ult is a bigger problem

If 2 ults destroy all my team i cant do anything

That i know of

I could get 1 person to 240

[acoustic kestrel]

i think gwyneth to 240 is the best because shes an amazing carry and belinda starts to fall off end game

[jagged pike]

I dont have Gwyneth ascended

I might actually pay for the game for the first time and get a Gwyneth

[runic vine]

Hi i need some help with this lvl please

[quasi dirge]

Yo, i'm stop for more than a day on it, i could use some advice :)

[warm swan]

If you're gonna use Bel as a future dim link, might as well level her up.

[jagged pike]

Like i could get a dimensional

But ok

[warm swan]

Hence the "if" at the beginning of the statement

[pale kettle]

Been stuck here a while, just levelling up everything to 120 so i can continue power levelling my DD but its not going so well, any suggestions

[wet meadow]

I can't get this boss stage

And what artefacts do I use on these guys

[faint current]

I use Eye on Lyca, Call or Eye on Eironn, anything defensive on Lucius (I don't really use him in campaign since I have better options) Call on Rowan, and Kren I'm not sure, don't know enough about him yet.

[untold ginkgo]

This is in Howling Wastes. I don’t have Ezio. Help?

[unborn cove]

Now that the reinfocements event is gone I'm incredibly stuck. I lost my Rowan. I used to have to do my dailies for the day, top up my Mireal then do the boss, and repeat. Now even my dailies aren't enough (please ping if you respond)

[wraith wadi]

Levels are super slow going at this point, think I've tried just about every combination that makes sense. Any tips?

Similarly stuck in tower and just about everything else

[warm swan]

@unborn cove how are the rest of your fodders coming along? I see you can almost L your Arden. You also have enough copies to L that Silv.

[unborn cove]

Should I be pushing them to legendary, I wasn't really thinking about that considering I don't use them and I don't have enough copies if an a tier yet @warm swan

[warm swan]

You can L those heroes because they are fodders. You will get plenty of copies of them, making it easier to ascend them to L+, which will able you to reach 160 on the rest of your heroes easily.

[unborn cove]

I've been mostly following tree3 guide but I'm getting a bit stuck progression wise, someone else gave me advice here to change from the 5 fodder team to what I have rn and it helped me progress a lot

[warm swan]

Team comp changes. What you need is to set-up the fodder team for your resonating cyrstal.

[unborn cove]

My crystal is a bit of a mess atm, I'll send an ss, any suggestions of what to put in @warm swan

[proper orchid]

Can’t hook Arden like I usually do, and no stun is working

[unborn cove]

@warm swan

[brave oriole]

@proper orchid Lucius with call should cancel arden root there

[proper orchid]

It happens in the first 2 seconds, but hey I’ll try it

Yeah they don’t last even ten seconds

[brave oriole]

Have you tried to charm ferael?

[proper orchid]

Nah that’s a good idea hold up

[warm swan]

@unborn cove yeah, you should put those fodder-tier heroes on the reso crystal. Like what the guide mentioned, it will help you level up easily since their copies are abundant, hence, you will easily be able to bring the rest of your heroes to 160.

[unborn cove]

So, Arden, Silva, Hogan etc on the crystal?

[drowsy gazelle]

Yup

[proper orchid]

Ferael kills her before beguile is usable

[unborn cove]

I need to clarify, should I have them being levelled by the crystal, or have them as the ones I'm actually putting exp into, and reset the a tier

[drowsy gazelle]

Try putting call and/or some good boots on her

[proper orchid]

I did

[brave oriole]

@proper orchid that means that she needs more haste, better shoes, and maybe call

What's front of nemora?

[drowsy gazelle]

Have the fodders hero be the top5 meaning level them, then put the main hero you uses on resonating crystal to share their levels

[unborn cove]

Okay, I'll reset the others

[proper orchid]

Izold, he’s the only one I can get to knock over Arden

[brave oriole]

You may try to add lyca also

Elite, nvm, just for the haste

[proper orchid]

I’ll put her in the crystal let’s see

[silk drift]

This stage is killing me. I have been retrying for 3 hours straight

[proper orchid]

Damn, that didn’t do much either

[brave oriole]

@silk drift it's easy, you need rowan tasi front, eironn middle to pull silvina from tasi. Safiya back of rowan and lyca last slot

@proper orchid how looks your team? With artifacts

[silk drift]

Silvinia targets Safiya.

[brave oriole]

Oh, right, try a few times see if she can cast the mantra anyway. Put some good gear on

[proper orchid]

Antandra is always last alive

[brave oriole]

@proper orchid so okay, you need nemora still, that's why lyca in

[proper orchid]

Who do I swap

[brave oriole]

Try
Lyca
Rowan
Silas
Izold
Nemora

If Silas doesn't help, go for atandra

@silk drift you can replace safiya with daimon

[vast meadow]

Why my god comp is weak? Izold/Thoran/Daimon comp is way better.... I have Tasi +26 3/9 Fera +30 9/9 Orden A Alna 3/9 Saurus30 A as a substitute

[fallen canopy]

Hei, i just got a lucky pull. Im stuck at 7-5 chapter, my team comp are the first 5(blue circle)

[pale kettle]

Who should i use?

[warm swan]

@fallen canopy you pulled another Wu? Or is that the free Wu from sharing?

[fallen canopy]

Nah i pulled the guy from the left

But idk, should i reset anyone?

[summer cedar]

With haste Daimon should shield before estrilda charge. He does get the faction bonus too. Granted this was a direct comparison to baden only, and with his clones and dmg mitigation baden is harder to get a 1st kill on, or so I've found

[raw rune]

Oof daimon has never done that for me

Unless you mean after the initial sword throw

Because that's the bit I'm talking about

[pale monolith]

I'd go with Daimon, Skreg - Front;
Belinda, Mirael, Aden - Back;

[pale kettle]

One second, ive unlocked more

[pale monolith]

I'd go with Izold, Daimon - Front;
Mirael, Rowan, Arden - Back; Celestials and Hypogean won't be of much use unless you whale and for God's sake don't use Rare tier heros, their max lvl is 140

[pale monolith]

Same formation

[pale kettle]

Early game Lyca not good?

[pale monolith]

Yup, I'm mid game and she still doesn't do much even tho I have her to Ascended

[pale kettle]

Think I've reached a stalemate for the time being anyway

None of my heroes are even Elite+ let alone legendary

[pale monolith]

Bruh

[magic oriole]

lyca is bad until she gets her si+20

[pale monolith]

If she wpuld survive more than 6 seconds

[magic oriole]

nah she is just not worth that early on unless you have eironn

@pale kettle can I see your heroes?

[wet meadow]

I have put Gwyneth in for kren

[pale monolith]

I had 4 copies of Lyca E+ and I didn't even use her so I decided to ascend her

[pale monolith]

Ascend your heros to E+ ,all of them

[pale kettle]

When it's possible i will ofc, just isn't possible currently

[magic oriole]

ok, well you should also manually level only the heroes of the highest ascension, otherwise you are restricting yourself. You should also really get mirael as high as possible and use her as a dps carry until you can get daimon and gwyn at a decent level. As for belinda, she really drops off after chapter 30

[pale monolith]

Why do so many people hate on Belinda, I used her from Ch 1 to Ch 16 and then I got Ainz. She falls off but early game she is amazing

[magic oriole]

Because I'm on chapter 33 and I used her as my main dps carry until chapter 30 and I wanted to die at the end

because overinvesting in a 5 star full faction t2 armor and +23 si was a mistake

also I did do the rookie mistake of getting shemira to +30. never do that

[autumn totem]

I need a replacement for lucius, since he's apparently garbage after chapter 20. My usual lineup consists of Lucius, Saurus, Ainz, Rowan and Ezio

[summer cedar]

it's a question of long term investment. other units won't fall off, so belinda becomes a dim link, or sees occasional usage in LB tower. why make a good short term, bad long term investment if u can make a good short term, good long term investment for the same cost?

[manic violet]

Need some tips i 'm getting wiped by isabella

[pale monolith]

I like your funny words magic man

[candid lava]

Upgrade ur unites

[scarlet depot]

Can someone help, im hardstuck here

[summer cedar]

nemora instead of tasi to charm fera. if rosa is not ulting, swap for lyca/arden. if luci is not ulting, swap for brutus.

[red fable]

I'm just being destroyed before ainz can get is ult up

[sly ruin]

i kinda fucked up but tryna minimize damage before midgame

[summer cedar]

plz stop posting single hero pages. I have no idea what ur question is. Read the channel description. I'd also refer you to the pins in #classic-questions for early game advice

[sly ruin]

understood

my question is what general direction should i go here? which should i keep, what is my game plan? my fuckup was mostly spending gold on upgrading legendary and L+ gear so i wanted to show it

[red fable]

I'm being rekt before ainz can get his ult up

[summer cedar]

your next step is in the pins in #classic-questions. it's all compiled there

[sly ruin]

thank you

[agile wave]

Any tips on my Legends' Challenger Tournament formations?

[regal sonnet]

Any Tips for the Formation?

[river oxide]

Welp im stuck again

[maiden marsh]

@native compass what I used fwiw

[native compass]

Thx! I think I’ll need a Ferael Mercs since I don’t have him

[shut bluff]

25-1 has been kicking my butt all week! Any suggestions?

[brave oriole]

@shut bluff ofc, you should have your carry 240, having all 220 doesn't help you more

[autumn totem]

not using ainz
well there's your problem

[sharp locust]

I've been playing for just over a month(got the 30 day stamp the other day) and I'm trying to find the most optimal line up with what I have. May I please have some help?

Also want to find another aoe type to replace my mirael since she can't go above L+

[silk drift]

You can use either Shemira or Belinda

[summer cedar]

stop building L heroes. mirael is arguably, but most ppl agree, the best carry up to lvl 160, so stick w her until then
u shud only be upgrading 5 heroes at a time. read the pins in #classic-questions

[shut bluff]

Tried with ainz but he gets wiped

[proud edge]

Any help with 30-26?

[brave oriole]

@silk drift I dunno if works
Lyca
Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Eironn

[silk drift]

I get obliterated

[silk drift]

My Nara isn’t built 🤔

[mild geyser]

perhaps nara instead of skiarth to pull nem

[maiden marsh]

She may work at elite

[proud edge]

Never used thoran cheese, I basically throw in a full gear thoran and whoever?

[mild geyser]

you try to get the enemies to surround thoran and have him oneshot everything

[silk drift]

Oh lol I don’t have enough combat rating

[brave oriole]

You close, put some better gear and artifacts on your heroes

[silk drift]

I gave them the best gear I could

[brave oriole]

Well, make nara l or so then, I dunno.

Maybe enchant safiya si

[silk drift]

nah not worth it. I can just try another comp

[brave oriole]

Find a replacement for Brutus then, another tank, maybe thoran, rowan

[silk drift]

I am trying that right now but no good I will still give it a few tries

[brave oriole]

@silk drift only issues would be safiya to not cast the mantra

[red fable]

20-8 is kicking my ass I just need to have ainz survive long enough to get 2 ults off but I cant get him to live after the first ult

[brave oriole]

@red fable yeah, ofc, 0 support. No rowan at all, its bad. You maybe have a chance if cc arden, with nara or athalia

[red fable]

I have no cc heroes

[maiden marsh]

Nara and athalia are cc heroes

[red fable]

Would they work as elites

[maiden marsh]

They can

[silk drift]

she casts it but I guess my Daimon isn't strong enough to kill them all or rather fast enough. Also Eironn is absolutely useless he dies before doing any damage

[brave oriole]

@silk drift try lyca on brutus slot

[silk drift]

even worse lol

[red fable]

Thank you nara worked

[brave oriole]

@silk drift I dont know then. I usually put eironn on such situations front vs skreg, with dura's call, and Saurus back . Other option it's to build a wilder team with Nemora to charm ferael

[silk drift]

How can your Eironn survives that when I do it he always die before even ulting once

[brave oriole]

Well, gear, tree, rowan heals and so on

[maiden marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-dodge-neo-gif-13288848

[late sluice]

Can I post screenshots here of line up? As wel as ask for tips or would that be in #classic-questions

[silk drift]

I always thought my Eironn was well built. Maybe tree is the issue

[maiden marsh]

Just gotta rng for that dodge. As long as it isn't an intelligence hero, he can dodge it given enough retries

[silk drift]

that what I have been doing for the past few hours

[mint nimbus]

Who should I use as my last guy? I'm trying to get a healer but who should I use for now

[pale kettle]

Can't seem to beat this

[pale kettle]

I think you need a tank in your frontlines

[hallow kettle]

how the dump to pass this stage, i try killing ezizh off but numisu keeps healing. and thoran cheese won't work since ezizh disables thoran ult

[tulip swallow]

Just hit chap 4, using Hogan, Gorvo (E+), Gwyneth, Rosaline, and Saveas. Have now unlocked some other Ascended tier (Cecilia, Silas, Oden) and wondering if I should rework lineup.

[maiden marsh]

You can roll with overleveled saveas carry for a while before switching to a proper comp (preferably daimon)

[spice iris]

Im chapter 12 currently was wondering if i can improve my lineup

https://imgur.com/a/24wLrhQ

Im using miraie ofc and sometimes i barely win but sometimes lucky i got through

[steel flame]

Plz help, been stuck on this. I’m always so close

Also have Mirael Saveas and Hogan resonated

[exotic ore]

What level is Belinda and rose?

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=60 one of these will work. u need to get good rng such that athalia misses first strike and ezizh doesn't lock up ur daimon. hopefully fera would also stay up and interrupt enemy ults but that's no guarantee

[simple crescent]

New to the game...what’s a good lineup with what I have?

[red fable]

Lucius and brutus frontline tasi twins and wu kong backline

[summer cedar]

I recommend reading the pins in #classic-questions. put as many lvl as u can into wu kong early on

[austere geyser]

.

[summer cedar]

... u got a question?

[simple crescent]

thanks!!

[stuck trellis]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=60

theres even a 279 clear there so should be good enough

[dusky sentinel]

Any suggestions?

[stuck trellis]

@dusky sentinel what about something like

tasi
rowan
lyca
eironn
tidus

[dusky sentinel]

I'll try. Gear should be Eiron > tidus > lyca, right?

[stuck trellis]

yeah for this comp
im not the best at early game lineups so this might just fail completely

[dusky sentinel]

Yeah tidus instadies, rip. Honestly I don't think I can break through until I advance crystal to 161, but posted in case someone came up with a miraculous setup

[fossil solar]

Need help with this level

[bitter cloak]

Been stuck for ages who should I be working on?

[summer cedar]

you should stop building L heroes. also, ascension help goes in #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

this looks like a winning lineup to me. consider swapping 1-2 and 3-5 but this roster should work. I'm just not sure of the exact placements

[fossil solar]

I got it Bob thanks! Now I'm stuck here

[summer cedar]

nara/athalia for mehira, always. most of the time. but, pretty much always
altho I did cop a 5pull lineup on KT450 that beat 2 mehiras so...

[outer gyro]

Need a hand

[thin roost]

im stuck on 12-4. heres my heroes

[mild geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793318818839658497/801915074449113119/image0.png
That stage was cancerous

[worn pilot]

Stuck here for a few days, any help?

[steel flame]

110 Rosaline Belinda 100

[hasty merlin]

Any help with this? No one does enough damage to take out everyone, and as soon as either shemira or Vedan ults it’s game over.

[fossil solar]

@mild geyser do you have formation for this one? I can't for thr life of me get anywhere close

[mild geyser]

29-54?

[fossil solar]

Yes sir

[mild geyser]

i think i replied to you with it

it took a shit ton of retries

[fossil solar]

Haha thanks man. I will have to find a way to throw daimon in there. Without him I can't beat any level with eironn alone

[granite harness]

Is there any comp I could make to feasibly beat 10-40?

[valid quail]

Can anyone help me out with this? @ me if you reply please

[wraith stone]

Looking for help with this stage, 22-50. I’ve pushed to this point with my Joker, just got my Daimon to adscended (he also has si20). Just not able to survive at all.

[summer cedar]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=60

[summer cedar]

izold brutus rowan belinda rosa maybe

[summer cedar]

if anyone should be lvl 200 here, it's shem, so I'd reset lucius. also, move saurus to 2 to try to reduce the chance of fera interrupting 5stack

[pale kettle]

why can’t i beat this level?

[summer cedar]

hogan mirael lyca rowan rosa might work

[summer cedar]

daimon is not meant to frontline most of the time. he's not really a tank - u want him to survive and ramp up. try brutus thoran daimon rowan fera maybe

[summer cedar]

post the rest of ur box

[winged breach]

Can someone help please? I've been stuck forever.. [edit: I have two spots on my resonating crystal open]

[wraith stone]

that worked, thank you so much!

[valid quail]

Thank you @summer cedar

[pale kettle]

@summer cedar here man! thanks so much

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions. i dont really see a solution here. need some better carries

[summer cedar]

try swapping arden for queen. or just keep lvling, a 160 saveas would wipe this stage with ease

[winged breach]

Welp.. thanks for looking, I appreciate it!

[pale kettle]

@summer cedar damn, bought queen to fuse with my Arden hoping she could carry it - while she does better than Arden did, i still can’t beat it. Thanks heaps though man

@winged breach yeah i would get rid of Lucius and chuck in your Shemira - you need damage. also, you shouldn’t be making legendaries as you are unless you can make them legendary+ right away