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merry thunder
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This worked out

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@warm swan any idea for this one

warm swan
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Same formula, use Daimon kHAHAsos

Something like Lyca, Talene, Daimon, Rowan, Tasi. Eye, n/a, call, chalice, call

edgy flame
crystal vale
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I don't do well against stall-out teams. And fighting this one ends in not only getting stalled out, but perfectly stalled out. As in, the enemies have taken zero damage. Even using the three-star merc does nothing.

celest fern
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onyx rapids
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HeyHey Can anyone help me build my team?

languid pier
pale kettle
languid pier
stone halo
pale kettle
amber badge
amber badge
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I got it thank you so much! I ended up using eironn comp and winning instead right before I seen your message, I greatly appreciate it.

autumn pond
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What should I use? I want to incorporate like my Joker Ainz or something like that

haughty furnace
dusky pawn
worn pilot
cursive lodge
cursive lodge
lofty gust
cursive lodge
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who did tasi banished

lofty gust
cursive lodge
# lofty gust Thane

swap saurus and brutus position, put lyca to frontline and saurus to backline or try daimon instead of saurus

lofty gust
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Tried almost every combination possible with all heroes Without getting coffined sad af

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Evrytime it's the same... That posidon stuns thane strikes and all dead 10-15secs

elfin haven
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Any suggestions plz??

pale kettle
unborn cove
onyx rapids
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Can anyone Help me With lineup PM me If so REALY Need help

manic violet
vocal kettle
onyx rapids
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Do you See any good Characters?

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Started 2 days ago not much but i hope its Something

wise bridge
onyx rapids
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Aaaaay im Rank 6 Arena 😂🙃

cursive lodge
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u have good start heroes, use lucius wukong rosaline mirael and rowan atm, then focus on some proper carries as daimon/saurus if you could achieve them cuz they are good . i suggest some more supports like tasi lyca ferael and rowan to build a good team

wise bridge
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need lineup help. should I ascend shenira or daimon first?

pale kettle
onyx rapids
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The Team U typed im using right now acctualy only Rosaline Not

cursive lodge
# wise bridge

wait till u have 4 copies of 1 hero, atm you could use daimon wukong rowan hogan and shem

wise bridge
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cheers

onyx rapids
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Should i reset then With diamonds to Level The Others?

cursive lodge
cursive lodge
onyx rapids
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Fear But dont i lose my 25% buffs and why unnecesarry how should i Level Thema

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Sorry im on Phone right now so hard to Type Here cause autocorrection from 4 language

cursive lodge
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wdym, smh i cant get it elethathink

onyx rapids
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25% buff If in have 5 light units

timid adder
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buffs are good to have but not essential to climb

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hero & comp quality is better

cursive lodge
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celestials count as LB/Mauler/Wilder/GB, my comp i suggested have 25% buff too nakorurusip

timid adder
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also in that screenshot you're vsing graveborn which deals bonus dmg to your 5 lightbearers

onyx rapids
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Wait

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Didnt U suggest this

cursive lodge
onyx rapids
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Fuak

timid adder
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I mean you don't send level 1 units, I honestly forgot what its like to be at your stage

cursive lodge
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smh theres the reason im not a community supporter homegalul

cursive lodge
onyx rapids
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Okey and should i Go for mirael legendary or wait for someone else

timid adder
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What I would do is look up best early/mid game heroes to carry and make that hero your highest level

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Daimon or izold is a nice example

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and then flex your team around your main carry

onyx rapids
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Hm okey what about thoran is he Good

timid adder
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he is a meat shield

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later in the game you can do a thoran cheese but not at your level

onyx rapids
timid adder
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who does silvina jump to

onyx rapids
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I mean normaly is there a go this way Like 90% of The time not this mission

timid adder
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Do you mean to say is there a comp that just works most of the chapter than just this one?

onyx rapids
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Yes... I think? xD yea Like how should i Position my Units

timid adder
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Who is your main carry

onyx rapids
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DAAAAME Rosaline is so Strong and even With Rowan Just gets better Ty @cursive lodge

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İTS mirael

wraith wadi
cursive lodge
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mirael is proper carry till ch 12 13-ish if there are good supports, and then find some better carries as daimon, saurus or even oldish like shem and belinda nakorurusip

timid adder
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@wraith wadi You can definitely pass it

wraith wadi
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Alright well time for trial and error I suppose

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All of my tanks suck, well other than izold

timid adder
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On my campaign I'm at a 140 level deficit

onyx rapids
vocal kettle
magic turtle
cursive lodge
magic turtle
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i tried ainzbedo with tasi rowan and ezio/arthur

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not with lyca tho, also both ainz and bedo are only si20 since i have a shortage of reds rn

cursive lodge
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send ss of ur stage atm

cursive lodge
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ever tried nem to charm ferael ?

magic turtle
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actually no

cursive lodge
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tasi banished brutus or mirael ?

magic turtle
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lemme get back to u

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answer is neither, she gets exploded too fast lol

cursive lodge
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put her on backline and lyca on frontline ?

magic turtle
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hmm yea that worked

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do u reckon this lineup can push past ch28

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or is additional investment required

cursive lodge
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i did with eironn and gwyn comp for ch28, for further are thoran and safiya till ch30, u r good to deal with ch31 when already have 2 proper comps nakorurusip

limber lichen
balmy vessel
balmy vessel
pale kettle
bleak bridge
fervent dragon
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Need a bit of help on this one. I went ascension crazy a little bit when I started so possibly screwed myself a little.

bleak bridge
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Yeah that's def holding you back

frosty spindle
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Help

warm swan
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@frosty spindle I have an ss but involves a Fera on position 3, then Tasi in position 1. No Talene

onyx ridge
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Double ultis kills everything but the niru :(

frosty spindle
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@warm swan can u show me

trim fjord
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still stuck after 5 days, i have nemora from other posts but she never charms anyone.

past urchin
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Try Eironn pulling from the middle.
Retry a few times.If it goes well Belinda will 1 shot everything.
Belinda
Rosa
Eironn
Brutus
Lucius

Or Lyca instead of Lucius if the pull isnt fast enough.Any Lyca will do.Its just for the haste.
@trim fjord

warm swan
past urchin
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Did it work? @trim fjord

vocal kettle
candid silo
dusky kindle
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Currently working on bringing Shemira to l+, best possible combination?

candid silo
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Stuck on this stage, what hero would be help me the most from reinforcements ?

onyx ridge
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@pale monolith yo does thoran have SI? My Rowan is the free trial SI +4 only. J can make Thoran to M if needed but idk about si

past urchin
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Try to charm Ferael @vocal kettle
It wont happen from where your Nemora is.
Nemora
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline

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Maybe Lyca instead of Rosa if the charm doesnt go off fast enough.
Also be prepared to retry a million times as Nemora is very RNG based :)

trim fjord
past urchin
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Basically.
Make sure Ferael gets charmed BEFORE he fears.
Otherwise its pointless @vocal kettle

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You want him to fear his own team

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Does the pull go off without Lyca?
@trim fjord
If so, use your Lucius instead of her.

trim fjord
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it does but doesnt always work which is weird

past urchin
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Knockback.
He gets interrupted by taking a big hit.
Try to give him Dura's Call.

trim fjord
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doesnt help lucius and brutus die in the first 5 seconds

past urchin
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Eye on Belinda.

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Drape on Lucius (or chalice if you have it).
Brutus can do without an artifact, he will go immune anyway.

vocal kettle
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Best result is 2 shemire ulti

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but cant survive 4/5 enemies

past urchin
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Try Rosa up front @vocal kettle
She cant be targeted once she starts sweeping, might buy Shemira time to heal up.

vocal kettle
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I use lyca, but try it in front but then shemire couldnt ultimate

past urchin
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Ferael is a pain...I know :)

vocal kettle
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Yeah... My hardest mach is where Feareal and Grezhul

trim fjord
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think im just gunna need to overlevel this fight, fareal jsut jumps back to position and belinda ahrdly ever gets an ult off

past urchin
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Well he comes back literally every 3 stages from the moment he 1st shows up...all the way to ch 26.5 where I currently am.

candid silo
orchid cedar
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Is there a list for the artefacts which of those are good for certain heroes?

fallow ruin
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Should I build Ferael or wait to get another copy on my Shemira as shes my carry? Stuck on 9-12 with only E+s

past urchin
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Tank her with that Talene and Thane with Brutus @candid silo
You dont want him in the midfle of your formation.

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Ferael is practically useless before lvl 221 @fallow ruin

pale kettle
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Can anyone help me? Nothing is working at all, I've seen people beat it with much less power the only difference is they had 240 daimon, is eironn that fragile in comparison??

past urchin
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Does your Ferael fear before enemy Ferael? @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Sometimes he gets interrupted and fears and sometimes not, can't remove his weapon to fix the bug since he's reinforcement, but at that spot he almost always fears at same time with the enemy fera

past urchin
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Oh hes reinforcements.
Sorry.Didnt notice.

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Tasi banishes Morvus I guess?

pale kettle
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Yep. The closest I reached is the 3 bottom die but by that time morvus and tasi wipe out everyone, in some retries tasi dies too but eironn's left with 20% hp 1v1 morvus

past urchin
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Maybe drop Fera since he isnt completely reliable.
Eironn pull from 4
Lyca 3
Rowan 2
Nemora 5
And retry untill she charms Fera.
Id try that.

pale kettle
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Alright I'll give it a try

daring prawn
pale kettle
pale monolith
daring prawn
wheat gate
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Any help?

candid silo
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@past urchin Thanks a lot, that worked !

low ravine
# wheat gate

Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi
Try something like that

wheat gate
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Rowan and tasi get insta killed but i'll try

fallow ruin
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In a Daimon/Gwyneth, Izold, Shemira, Rowan & Rosaline lineup should I build Silas instead of Rosaline?

wheat gate
low ravine
wheat gate
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Should I use this same team comp for the future stages?

low ravine
wheat gate
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I got completely wrecked in the next stage lol

low ravine
past urchin
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Maybe give her call even.Move gear around @pale kettle
I dont have any other ideas, sorry.

wheat gate
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That's actually my old team comp but my supports just get deleted

past urchin
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What supports? @wheat gate :)
You have 2 tanks and 3 dps there.
No wonder you are having a hard time.That lineup has no sustenance and no crowd control.

wheat gate
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I’ve been switching around to no avail

past urchin
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Isnt Rosaline following Lucius?

wheat gate
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Yes

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But usually she doesn’t even have time to use her ult she gets deleted

past urchin
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Thats quite unfortunate.
Double Shem ult would be much better.
Anyway.

wheat gate
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I wish I could but my lucius just has better gear and higher ascension

past urchin
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Try
Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Shemira
@wheat gate

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Or play around with it some more.
Basically I suggest Brutus where I suggest heh.
Anything else will get demolished there by Vurk poison.

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If Tasi dies before banish, try Rosa instead.
She will waste a bit of time running, but might actually survive.

limber lichen
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If i complete here prob i make a M Belinda.

wheat gate
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I keep getting demolished lmao i’ll just wait until I can ascend my lucius

past urchin
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If anything pls work towards getting a better CARRY @wheat gate
A tank like Lucius wont win you the battle by himself ever.
He does no damage at all.
Even if he can stay alive forever, you will lose when the time runs out.

wheat gate
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@past urchin Problem is I don’t have the materials to ascend my characters

sour knoll
daring prawn
tame parrot
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Guys, need advice on the lineup. Should I sacrifice estrilda/mirael and make one legendary, and which one? 🤔

lilac gulch
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@tame parrot pour all fodder into mirael until lvl160( L+). Do not sacrifice A tier units(estrilda)

pale kettle
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Is there anything I can do here? Chapter 20 has been pretty hard so far. Am I just to low level/ascension?
Tried many different comps but no chance..daimon gets cced and i can't do enough damage

tawny vessel
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completely stuck on this

past urchin
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That comes with time @wheat gate
Cant really be helped.

daring prawn
silk drift
lofty gust
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Need line-up suggestions for Misty Valley Frontline hero challenge. I'm f2p lvl106 Chap 22-34

brave oriole
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@stable peak should be easy you need rosaline. taleen being front wont help ya. try

brave oriole
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Try
Lucius call
Talene
Rowan
Rosa
Shem dura's grace
Restart if shem didn't dodged fawk coffin

pale kettle
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within 24 hours I can choose another support hero in Tasi's place, which one should I get to pass this stage?

brave oriole
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@midnight girder fawkes get rid of shem, I guess that ainz can hold athalia.

brave oriole
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@pale kettle Brutus can hold front top, fawkes to remove shem back of Brutus, rowan middle of have, shem Rosa back if have,, bottom

midnight girder
pale kettle
brave oriole
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@pale kettle Brutus,, elite m or ascended doesn't make any diff

pale kettle
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sure

warm swan
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@proud edge Try it with Eironn, Rowan, Fera, Lyca, Tasi. Call, chalice, eye, eye, call

@lilac gulch Try Rowan, Tasi, Eironn, Fera, Lyca. Same relics as above.

lilac gulch
warm swan
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@lilac gulch I don't have my ss from 30-24 to 30-36. Idk what happened between those stages homegalul

lilac gulch
pale kettle
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I'm early game, chapter 7 free to play, currently using Mirael as my damage dealer but been told she gets capped at legendary, i have enough food to take her to legendary or i can take belinda to legendary, i don't know which one to do, i know mid game belinda is better because she isn't as capped as mirael but mirael is meant to be a solid early game carry

pale kettle
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Not currently

pale kettle
narrow lark
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Make Mirael L and work on making her L+. Use those fodder tier carries until 160

cyan hatch
pale kettle
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I wasn't really that into the game early on, so i made a few dumb mistakes and wasted my labyrinth coins on a useless hero, but im saving up for a Shemira now to use her as my damage dealer

cyan hatch
cyan hatch
warped moat
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K

pale kettle
warped moat
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They all got killed early

cyan hatch
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oh

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can't you level them up?

warped moat
pale kettle
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Maybe pivot to saveas. You have him at L+ and he is very good until 160..he carried me pretty far @warped moat

warped moat
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Kren and rowan are trial

warped moat
pale kettle
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Hmm...he and mirael are pretty much the best carries you can have at that level...

cyan hatch
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why do you use resonating crystal on lucius?

warped moat
warm swan
# warped moat 120 capped

You're not supposed to be capped. Reset those levels from your Pippa, Saurus, Lyca, etc and put them in the crystal slots instead. Ascend either one of Silv, Isa or Vaden to L. Do the same to Mira, Angelo, or Hogan. Now you've got 2 L+ heroes, and 3 L heroes, taking your cap to 140. Overlevel whoever your carry is. And wait for more fodders for those 3 L heroes, which will be coming frequently anyway. Now you got your cap to 160.

chilly creek
summer cedar
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KT 450?

arctic hill
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Oh

atomic tinsel
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Ive been stuck here for a while, the Silvia ends up killing Isabelle and with kaz quickly kills everyone. I tried using safiya for the buff but silvia stuns and one shots her before she can set up the buff.

manic violet
wraith wadi
vale stump
boreal ingot
eager galleon
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I’m trying to beat these level but don’t know what I should do at this point

summer cedar
onyx rapids
summer cedar
summer cedar
summer cedar
boreal ingot
eager galleon
onyx rapids
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i enjoy Daimon alot tho is he bad?

eager galleon
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He’s been really good for me

summer cedar
summer cedar
boreal ingot
summer cedar
boreal ingot
onyx rapids
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@summer cedar Do you think Thorwan is good early? like 100-120lv?

summer cedar
onyx rapids
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Should i use brutus or thoran now tho

summer cedar
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... u don't have a brutus tho? I alrdy gave u a team

onyx rapids
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nvm i thought i had him bcs u named him mb

pale kettle
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also don't make any champ into gold unless you plan to keep them around for a long time, i learned this the hard way

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im now stuck with lucius and others which are individually good characters but they dont make any progression when it comes to team composition and synergy

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i recommend ranking up side character which are easy to acquire to legendary + so that you can eventually use them as fodder when the time comes

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based on line up for early beginners i would recommend graveborn team comp because of potential, i have some characters on mind but i think a couple of youtube vids will help with that as good as i can explain

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anyhow have a goodday everyone

narrow lark
summer cedar
narrow lark
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I'll try that 👍

summer cedar
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for most tasi stages I prefer daimon tho, as ainz may still get rekt by her TP

narrow lark
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Yeah it's always ending up with Ainz and Tasi and she just destroys him. Would use Daimon but he doesnt ult fast enough without any artifacts

boreal ingot
onyx rapids
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@summer cedar

twin dove
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Imo I would reroll no rowan or shemira

dusky kindle
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As far as I remember you can get 1 free shemira from code.

onyx rapids
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how

twin dove
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There's no code for shemira

dusky kindle
twin dove
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Purple stones there is

dusky kindle
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Then I remember wrong.

brave oriole
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It's from forest mania

pulsar crest
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any suggestions here? belinda and estrilda are doing too much damage and ainz dies before 2nd ult. brutus is from Reinforcements so I can change him for any non-celepo hero btw

daring prawn
jagged pike
daring prawn
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Farael block ainz ulti

jagged pike
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Replace celestial with izold
And place izold and nara frontline

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Hopefully nara can get her ult out on fereal

jagged pike
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Where does fereal go at the start and stay

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Lyca

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Or lucius hes an actual tank

daring prawn
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Laucius insta die

jagged pike
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Sometimes i go lucius backline since he shields for a bit the person above him

jagged pike
wintry sierra
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not rly

jagged pike
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Who goes near him

wintry sierra
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he dies by the poison, antandra supporting

jagged pike
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So hes useless?

wintry sierra
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I tried lucius but that does nothing, and yes

jagged pike
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What about estrillda

wintry sierra
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Lemme try

jagged pike
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You're way above me so i cant give the best advice

wintry sierra
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That was a close one

jagged pike
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So estrillda's useefull?

wintry sierra
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But she's dying like tidus

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I tried again but it went worse

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I can record the battle if you want

jagged pike
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Let me see the battle

wintry sierra
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Man vurk's too op

jagged pike
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How long do you last in the fight

wintry sierra
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Around 30 seconds

jagged pike
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Can numisu do anything and distract the enemies

jagged pike
wintry sierra
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Not reallu tbh

summer cedar
wintry sierra
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Oh it actually worked O_O

jagged pike
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Holy shit lol

wintry sierra
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Haha thank you

pulsar crest
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any suggestions here? belinda and estrilda are doing too much damage and ainz dies before 2nd ult. brutus is from Reinforcements so I can change him for any non-celepo hero btw

jagged pike
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Let me get a guess on here
Frontline brutus tasi
Backline daimon rowan Gwyneth or ainz

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Is albendo 30+

pulsar crest
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nope. ainz and albedo +20, rowan +30, daimon +19, gwyneth +0

jagged pike
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Albedo does no damage without +30

pulsar crest
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yeah she's there for the extra def, otherwise ainz gets 1 shot

jagged pike
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Does anyone go behind brutus and does brutus die quickly

pulsar crest
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brutus' invul procs 3 secs into the battle and lasts 9 secs, so he lasts 11 secs total (dies at 1:19)

jagged pike
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Who stays alive the longest

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Id say you need ainz to survive

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Im not smart about these though

rain monolith
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Please help, I’m stuck on 15-40 and my brain isn’t working

pulsar crest
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tasi seems to get 1-shot when in frontline, tried around 10 times.
with the original formation ainz and albedo live the longest, usually albedo dies last because of her 3/9. I think if ainz could ult twice I could win with some rng, but I gave it many tries and he always only utls once

jagged pike
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Srry man but i dont know any more way i can help you

pulsar crest
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daimon doesn't seem to do anything, prob because he's not +20 yet

jagged pike
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Try a strong mercanary i guess

pulsar crest
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no worries thanks for trying.
I'll give it a few more tries and merc if it doesn't work. I want to finish this chapter by the next reset to get one more set of rewards from misty valley so I gotta be smart with mercs. have 2 uses for 4 stages

jagged pike
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Id suggest thoran since he ressurects and is a hefty tank

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I wouldnt trust it though id trust guild mates that are ahead of you

pulsar crest
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ok that's weird, I tried the original formation but with queen in the frontline instead of albedo and it worked for some reason???

jagged pike
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Afk arena is jsut afk arena

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You can put on the weirdest team formation and still win

pale kettle
rain monolith
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YES

pale kettle
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; ) I remember Tasi was key

rain monolith
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that sleep helped ainz get his second fallen down off, it saved the 4th attempt

pale kettle
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Currently stuck on this battle, i know i need to level up and stuff but was just wondering if any specific heroes in a specific formation might be able to do this?

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Or am i simply underleveled? kazThonk

warm swan
alpine mulch
fossil solar
warm swan
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@alpine mulch Can you merc a +30 Saurus? And do you have a Cecilia? Do it like Saurus, Rosa, Twins, Rowan, Cecilia. Might be squishy though

@fossil solar That already looks like a decent line-up on defense. Team 3 might have some issues with the E+ Ezizh but your 1 and 2 is gonna be tough and will force your opponent to choose carefully.

fossil solar
crystal badger
warm swan
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@fossil solar I'm gonna be honest, your opponent was somewhat noobish in countering your team. That would have been pretty easy with a burst comp. But a win's a win. That's why I said it's already decent. It makes your opponent choose, and if he chooses bad, you win. Gz btw

fossil solar
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Haha I know. Plus his ainz and bedo are not built right.

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@warm swan ok thanks brother
I need yo work on my albedo and ainz as well. They are just heavy investment imo

warm swan
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They are. I haven't even built mine yet. ulricry
Also, regarding pvp, Arty made a guide about team comps several days ago, if you haven't checked it out yet

fossil solar
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I havent, I will check it out for sure. Do you have a link by chance?

lilac gulch
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@warm swan no si30 ferael, cant replicate it

fossil solar
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@warm swan thanks again. I don't have half of those people leveled up yet and ready for pvp. But its a good reference on who I need to work on

lilac gulch
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Worked after I card tasi to 3/9. How about 43?kazThonk

warm swan
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We gonna do this till ch32? homegalul

lilac gulch
warm swan
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43 is Daimon stage. That's all I'm gonna say talenelaugh

native compass
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Is 2 line up good enough for LC? Or 3 would be better? (LC not LCT)

lilac gulch
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@warm swan daimon melts in 2seconds

warm swan
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Sorry to hear that. I used a merced Daimon there because mine wasn't ascended yet.

lilac gulch
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mines ascended si20kazThonk

warm swan
#

The one I borrowed was +30 3/3 kHAHAsos

lilac gulch
lilac gulch
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that worked kazThonk thanks

warm swan
#

I don't have 44, I swear.

lilac gulch
warm swan
#

Really, I don't. I take an ss on stages that took a couple of retries on my part. So if I don't have an ss of it, that would either mean it was relatively easy, or I misclicked skriwrath

icy parcel
nimble fossil
unborn cove
boreal ingot
jagged pike
solar shard
boreal ingot
#

I no longer need help on mine, passed it

solar shard
#

Oh wait, I'd also need to take out Numisu

olive osprey
drowsy gazelle
#

Anybody have 29-15?

narrow lark
drowsy gazelle
#

Thx

pale kettle
#

i plan to replace grezhul with either seirus or estrilda or skreg

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any tips

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How do i beat

past urchin
#

Read the messages pinned in #classic-questions
Start ascending and leveling fodder heroes mentioned there @pale kettle
Otherwise you will get ascension capped soon.

pale kettle
#

but what should i replace grezhul with? seirus estrilda or skreg

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current lineup being nemora joker gwyneth and lucius

past urchin
#

You dont need that many tanks.
1 overleveled carry that you put up front
1 tank (Lucius)
and 3 supports in the back

pale kettle
#

oh

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what could be my carry tho joker?

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js started like a week ago everythings new to me

past urchin
#

At your level Wukong.
Nothing even comes close to him at this stage.

pale kettle
#

hm okay

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so lucius wukong at the front, the back nemora joker gwyneth ? dun rly have all those lyca tasi rosaline right now

past urchin
#

Yeah Nemora is fine.
Joker too if you like him.
Gwyn wont do much this early on.

pale kettle
#

oh, then what should i change my gwyn with?

past urchin
#

Arden, Tasi something like that.
Rowan if you manage to get 1

pale kettle
#

oh okay! fereal saveas eironn safiya shemira no?

past urchin
#

Not Safiya and not Shemira.
Id go with Arden honestly.
He is very good and becomes even better at lvl 141

pale kettle
#

orite, thank u kind sir

past urchin
#

Yw.
Just make sure you read the pins in #classic-questions
And most important set up your WISHLIST as shown there.
Otherwise you will be pulling completely random stuff.
All heroes have some uses, but as always some of them are a little better than other.

narrow lark
pale kettle
#

i rly hope i get lyca tasi rowan ;-; love those cute characters

past urchin
#

They are staple heroes.
Good you like them.
LB - drop Henrik until you get 1 Cecilia.
Maulers - drop Kren, Satrana
Everything is in the pins.
Good luck :)

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@narrow lark
Im 4 stages before that.
Ezizh is a PAIN.

pale kettle
#

thank you @past urchin

narrow lark
#

Oh yeah that stage.. ezizh is a huge pain

past urchin
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Does your Fera fear before the enemy one?

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Sometimes a bit faster fear makes a huge difference @narrow lark

narrow lark
#

Yeah most of the times. It's just the Daimon vs Tasi that screws everything up. Cant get his last ult off to finish her

past urchin
#

Remove Ferael's weapon.
Im dead serious.

narrow lark
#

Really? I'll try that

past urchin
#

Its a bug Q brought up to my attention one day.
With weapon he would go
Accursed Arrow->Fear
WITHOUT weapon he will do
Auto>Fear
It makes a huge difference since arrow takes him forever to cast.
And you dont really need the weapon when he is relatively safe and doesnt need to dodge
@narrow lark

narrow lark
#

Oh okay. Weird mechanic. Seems to be more consistent without weapon, just gotta keep retrying. Thanks for that 👍

past urchin
#

Good luck.
See you there when I find a way to kill Ezizh lol

narrow lark
#

Yeah for sure! Ezizh has been my biggest pain as of lately. Same with other feraels 😅

sharp adder
#

Need help

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My heroes list

past urchin
#

Do you remember how you beat that Ezizh by any chance @narrow lark ?
Im out of ideas

narrow lark
#

I have the screenshot. Doesnt use "normal" heroes like Eironn or Daimon though

past urchin
#

Pls go on.
Anything is appreciated :)

narrow lark
#

I found that putting blade on Ainz instead of Call did a lot better since it was able to 1/2 shot them with ults rather then 3+

past urchin
#

I'll try that.No Arthur, but Brutus should do I think.

narrow lark
#

Yeah my arthur died relatively quick. Just the rng of hoping Rowan gets his ult off before he dies 👍

past urchin
#

I managed to burst him down a few times, but then there goes Nemora charm...and Eironn.

narrow lark
#

Yeah the Eironn goes crazy. Just gotta pray for good rng 😅

stuck trellis
#

all 3 clears there are basically teh same thing

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3rd clear there is 290 crystal so should be good enouhg for u

scenic ginkgo
sour knoll
stuck trellis
#

@sour knoll who gets banished by your tasi

sour knoll
#

I just played it multiple times and I don’t see her banishing anyone

stuck trellis
#

? u sure she's not banishing brutus or something

sour knoll
#

No I’ve played it at normal speed and am looking at everyone

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She should banish at the start of combat right?

stuck trellis
#

nah, doesn't happen instantly. she casts it a few seconds in

try backlining her, just so that she is safe and has time to cast

sour knoll
#

Ok who should I put in front?

past urchin
#

Yeah.
She gets interrupted by knockback.

stuck trellis
#

ferael
rowan
lyca
tasi
daimon

sour knoll
stuck trellis
#

oh nice

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I guess when ur 320 at ch 29 daimom front is better

sour knoll
#

Maybe

sharp adder
thorny hound
tardy hinge
edgy flame
brave wagon
#

Help plz

wraith wadi
pale kettle
#

This discord sucks never any help

lilac gulch
#

Try this
Nara
Rowan
Thoran
Tasi
Mehira

silk drift
warm swan
#

@lilac gulch Eironn+Saf bomb

fallow ruin
chilly mortar
cursive lodge
chilly mortar
#

il try

cursive lodge
#

i suggest albedo-rowan-queen-lyca-ainz for the position nakorurusip

lilac gulch
mild flame
#

Can someone help me out?

cursive lodge
# mild flame

try brutus lyca ainz rowan numisu , though im not sure if it could work or not kHAHAsos

edgy flame
stiff sandal
#

Any tips?

warm swan
#

@lilac gulch You pull the enemies towards Eironn and Saf bombs them all with her ult.

stiff sandal
#

How do I beat 23-18? It’s impossible

#

I HATE IT SM

vale dune
warm swan
#

@stiff sandal Ainz has a tough time against Grez shield. How many times did your Ainz ult?

stiff sandal
#

Not even once

#

The dang silvina always does something

vast meadow
#

@stiff sandal Where is your rowan? Did you put dura's call to Ainz?

stiff sandal
#

Yes

vast meadow
#

Counter Strategies for Grez : Lorsan, Ezizh/Lyca + Rowan

stiff sandal
warm swan
#

Bait her with Rowan instead. Something like Brutus, Tasi, Ainz, Rowan, somebody. Maybe Daimon, maybe Nem. Make sure Ainz gets Rowan's mana potion first.

stiff sandal
#

How do I set them up?

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Even with ainz ult I can’t beat them

warm swan
#

Then remove Ainz homegalul
Switch to Eironn+Daimon combo. Same line-up as you posted, but instead of Ainz, maybe Nem.

keen field
outer shore
warm swan
#

@outer shore Get your free Wukong. Have you used the available codes?

outer shore
#

Yea i just used them today, how do i get the wukong?

fallen canopy
#

Btw i can buy 1 purple from lab shop soon(if that helps)

warm swan
#

@fallen canopy there's a really good guide for beginners pinned on #classic-questions and it tackles team comps as well, so I recommend you give it a read

fallen canopy
#

Thanks

warm swan
#

So you got your team?

stiff sandal
outer shore
#

Alright got the wukong

warm swan
#

Gz. Now he's your carry to 100.

shut token
#

To mythical belinda or to not mythical belinda... What's the best way to get that last lucius copy :(

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Also God gave me 4 shemira copies or I wouldn't have gone with her.

warm swan
#

You're not level-capped yet. No need to rush to ascend to M.

shut token
#

I need a 5th legendary tho, that legendary daimon is a reinforce event

warm swan
#

Ah, mb, I'm going blind. I'm still not sure about M Bel though, seeing as your using Shem as mage carry already.

stiff sandal
pale kettle
#

Wukong doesn't work well for me right now

glacial gate
#

Can I ask for some help here. I don't have nether one copy of rowan so don't suggest him.

warm swan
#

@pale kettle Gwyn comp is a late game meta and would need investment in Gwyn + Arthur. You are better off starting with the usual Mira+Rosa combo or Sav carry at that stage.

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@glacial gate Interesting pool. Maybe frontline Talene instead. And sub out Bel seeing as you already have Shem carry. Have you tried Cecilia against Fera?

pale kettle
#

@warm swan it's just that I have to face saveas and I only find Gwyneth as a counter against him and In tanking its really hard with only thoran or hogan

warm swan
#

Maybe it's because none of your heroes are even past E? And even if you insist on Gwyn, you would find it hard to ascend her beyond L, and you'll just be stuck

glacial gate
#

@warm swan i did with talene front row and Cecilia back, Cecilia dies asap

past urchin
#

Mirael with Rosa would be much better than Gwyn @pale kettle
Saveas does a lot of single target damage but also hurts himself a lot in the process.
Double Mirael ult = dead Saveas.

forest lance
#

I got use the shemira carry comp for a long time, but I guess Shem is getting useless the further I go.

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I just got queen, and trying to get joker exchanged. Now I have just no idea what heroes to combine them with, or link them with

blazing venture
#

if I'm f2p with only 3 ascended tier units currently (Shemira, Brutus, Estrilda) and I can only afford to exchange for 1 of the 2 dementional heroes, which is the safer pick? Sad I missed out on ainz and albedo because they seem to own and I dont want to mess up this time

cursive lodge
blazing venture
#

at the rate i gain currency, i wont have enough lab coins for both 😦

cursive lodge
blazing venture
#

i got laid off from work recently would be irresponsible for me to spend money (even a little bit) on games 😦

cursive lodge
#

sad news, hope you could get a new work soon pippoggies

blazing venture
#

thanks, me too

glacial gate
#

I went for joker

warm swan
twin dove
narrow lark
cursive lodge
narrow lark
#

Yeah I tried him for about an hour last night but he cant finish off the Niru

cursive lodge
#

u replace who ?

narrow lark
#

I replaced him with Ainz?

cursive lodge
#

yes

#

or try albedo rowan ainz lyca ferael ? swap lyca and rowan could be another placement

twin dove
narrow lark
#

I'll try that thanks 👍

cursive lodge
narrow lark
#

Ah okay

jovial moat
#

hmph

#

Can I please have some help, I know I can beat it but I've been here a while.

cursive lodge
jovial moat
#

Yeah, it won't let me, says it was "explicit"

cursive lodge
#

try dm me

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even when idk if i could help u or not kHAHAsos

brave oriole
#

@lunar garden try to charm ferael

opaque spruce
#

What hero can I choose from reinforcement to help me push campaing, I'm at 30-56. My main team is ainz cleave. Either something to help kill, or something to keep him alive longer

warm swan
#

@opaque spruce Arthur would give you the most benefit but dims are not available as a reinforcement. From what I could see, you could just run Albedo, Talene, Ainz, Rowan, Tasi

opaque spruce
#

my tasi dies in 0 seconds :/ even with best equip on her

#

essentially if my hero isn't dimensional it dies in 0 seconds

onyx rapids
warm swan
#

@onyx rapids Get Wu as high as you can. I'm sorry. I typed too much. Just read the pins. Lol

Tanks would be Brutus, or Hogan. Support can be Rowan. And Arden. Just focus on legendary tier heroes first.

onyx rapids
#

(English bad i guess)

#

I can go legendary on Daimon Rowan and Numisu but is this Numisu even good?

warm swan
#

No, no. Don't L those heroes just yet. You don't L A tier heroes because you will need E+ copies of them to ascend, and that could take weeks to arrive.

onyx rapids
#

only if i got some copys? but how much when is the time for that

terse frigate
loud musk
onyx rapids
#

So what do i do? Bring Hogan to L with Mirael?

warm swan
#

@onyx rapids It's too long to type. Check Tree's guide in #classic-questions . There a progression stage there for 1-100 and then up to 160. It's more comprehensive, and easily understandable.

onyx rapids
#

Okey thanks im waiting

#

okey and from who exacly is the guide @warm swan

warm swan
#

Tree3SL. He's there just now

onyx rapids
#

the first one?

warm swan
#

Yes

onyx rapids
#

Thanks ill take a look

silk drift
kind ferry
topaz mirage
#

I need to kill Frontline first

glacial gate
#

@warm swan i did it in the end I swapped hawks and Cecilia with Belinda and Shamira. Cecilia worked well against fearel

wheat gulch
stiff sandal
#

Help me?

sour knoll
boreal ingot
#

Also nvm, I passed it

mild geyser
sour knoll
# mild geyser

Did you redo it a lot? Because my entre team gets one shot by athalia

mild geyser
#

well yes you retry stages a lot

sour knoll
#

Alright ty

uncut prism
pale monolith
marsh nymph
sour burrow
neon nova
sour burrow
#

Also why is Fearel out of Crystal? Just replace ulmus or whatever his name is

#

Also why is Fearel out of Crystal? Just replace ulmus or whatever his name is

solemn token
sour burrow
#

Also why is Fearel out of Crystal? Just replace ulmus or whatever his name is

sour burrow
solemn token
#

I'll run it out a few times not getting there I cant use another merc for like a week

pale monolith
sour burrow
#

Nah brutus aint ready also bel is good enough to be in front with izold so she can knock out 3 heroes

#

Its literally bloodsnarl he wont hurt bel that much

pale monolith
sour burrow
#

Idk if he has good gear or no but he might not make it cuz of gear

pale monolith
#

Idk if gear matters that much early, but I had a point of the game where Brutus was my carrier

sour burrow
#

Mine was belinda and I loved her ultimate too much cuz she can kill 3 enemies

#

And yeah I agree Brutus is too good for his shield

pale monolith
#

Belinda was also my carrier untill Ch16 when I got Ainz. Brutus was unintentionally my carrier for a short period of time when I unlocked a new ability of his

sour burrow
#

Joe is stage 10 so he might wanna AFK much more

pale monolith
#

Wdym by might wanna AFK

sour burrow
#

Like a day or so

solemn token
#

I think imma have too everyone dying to quick I'm short on dust too

sour burrow
#

Geardrop

pale monolith
#

Im looking down on people who have 5 legendaries in Ch 10 when I git my first legendary in Ch12 no offense joe

sour burrow
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pale monolith
#

Ah yes good ol' Volkin

#

Btw @sour burrow I heard a couple or more people say that Joker carried them through 30-31, can relate?

solemn token
#

It's cool fesh I'm pretty sure ur farther progressed

sour burrow
#

I just hit chapter 30 and cant manage to pass first stage but I can say Joker is a good hero because of his faction changing ability and the ultimate along with 9/9 furniture and 30+ SI

pale monolith
#

On my free trail he didn't do very much, but guess because I am 20 lvls under the normal lvls for my chapter

sour burrow
#

You might want him into your team instead of Queen , her ultimate can't do damage at all

pale monolith
#

Still need to wait 20 days to exchange

wooden comet
#

Try putting Ainz behind Brutus? Might be a more reliable tank

pale kettle
#

Yeah it doesn't work. You think I should get a new hero from reinforcement?

idle marlin
fossil solar
wooden comet
wooden comet
wooden comet
vestal lava
wooden comet
#

Wait first don't put anything important across from Estrilda because she'll try to run them over

#

Also is Lucius in the back for his knockback?

hazy iron
wooden comet
#

You don't need both Mirael and Belinda, just one of them as a damage dealer

vestal lava
wooden comet
vestal lava
#

yeah... either from niru or estrilda coming forward

wooden comet
#

Hmmm not sure what to do about that

#

Also have you not invested in a shemira?

vestal lava
#

Isn't shemira not a very good carry? like bad in end game or something?

wooden comet
#

Shemira only shines during this midgame time

#

And she caps out Chapter 27 at the latest

vestal lava
#

So... should I switch from damion to shemira?

#

or build both?

wooden comet
#

To be honest you should be fine with Daimon. He's probably the better choice because he's good endgame too

twin dove
#

Both are fine since you can use shim as dim link and she's good in other stuff

pale kettle
#

graveborn: Daimon, Izold, Thoran are main carries
Ferael and Nara best support along with Silas now

#

Shemira is only good for twisted realm, nothing else 🙂

noble vault
#

Anyone got a ss on 34-15 idk what to do about this khazard nara sheeit

wraith wadi
stiff sandal
proven rock
warm swan
#

@proven rock If you can, merc a +30 Saurus. Most guilds have at least one for sure. That would make your Rosa follown him.

proven rock
#

aight noted

jagged pike
#

Ima try lyca

#

Didnt work and neither did shemira

#

I could get 1 person 240

summer cedar
# lofty cairn

consider:
mirael brutus rosa rowan lyca/arden
or
lyca brutus rowan mirael rosa
either way, mirael and rowan are too far apart rn. mirael won't get the health pot

dark narwhal
sour pond
# lofty cairn

Rowan middle - rosa front and who does rosa follow? She should follow your mirael

wooden comet
wooden comet
wooden comet
barren lintel
wooden comet
summer cedar
#

32-56? (no luc or thoran)

tough whale
jagged pike
#

Wrong first image

#

I tried lyca

dusky lion
#

I hope you know to not level anything else to L now yes? Big mistake there lol. Unless that was wrong.

I’d try lyca over ainz maybe

#

With Tasi? Rowan and maybe Brutus to tank idk

jagged pike
#

Where should i place lyca where she can ult when she dosent die along with everyone 15 secs in

#

I could get 1 person to 240

dusky lion
#

Also maybe use lorsan to link. I see the eironn is from reinforcements not yours I would have said level him, and no daimon

bronze tapir
#

That hurts my@eyes seeing all those legends

#

That’s why you only have 2 acended at lvl 139

jagged pike
#

3*

dusky lion
#

I know 🥺 hurts a lot

bronze tapir
#

Theirs sooooo many

jagged pike
#

I suck at this game

bronze tapir
#

My alt is chapter 23 lvl 92

#

Idk it prob hurts to hear but I restart

#

Id

dusky lion
#

If you go that route I would restart and just play both. See how new account goes and keep playing old one. I think it’s worth trying

bronze tapir
#

Yea

jagged pike
#

I died 13 secs in

dusky lion
#

You’re going to be stuck for awhile I think campaign wise because of the L heroes

bronze tapir
#

^

#

Never L unless you can L+ even then you don’t L+ random heroes at first

tough whale
#

did anyone see my question?

jagged pike
pale kettle
#

seems most players use sth like this to complete the first round

languid pier
#

how do I beat those. grave born degens

lone imp
#

is there a good team i can put together to push through ch 20

drowsy gazelle
pale kettle
#

Np buddy.

granite apex
#

30-60 help? I don’t have athalia, and my nara insta dies from the mehira after pull and doesn’t even stop her bats. Ping if you can help

amber badge
#

Any suggestions to beat this level? I can swap reinforcements if needed

languid pier
languid pier
#

^ why is it so hard?

pale kettle
rustic bobcat
pale kettle
#

this subreddit is genuinely useless; no one helps ever

wicked gazelle
tacit meadow
unique parrot
#

server is kinda dead rn but whatever lol this is probably a situation where I just have to wait until I can level some heroes up but anyone have ideas to see if I can push through?

tacit meadow
#

Currently using top 5 for my line up

unique parrot
tacit meadow
#

Okay thanks they seem to be working well get stuck but then level them up again and they keep going.

unique parrot
#

yeah that's definitely how the game is lol

tacit meadow
#

Just thought some of the other heros might be better lol since I'm pretty new dnt know alot about the game yet

onyx rapids
wicked gazelle
onyx rapids
#

Also got some Tips for me so i can pass this Level? 😅

drowsy gazelle
#

Dint fultsch gave a tips? Reset wukong. Up daimon to lvl120

wicked gazelle
drowsy gazelle
#

Put rowan at middle as well

wicked gazelle
#

You can frontline Lyca since she’s just there for haste
Better to have her die than a hero you need to ult

onyx rapids
#

Hm... Still doesnt Work sadly but idk how to get Stronger

wicked gazelle
#

It’s mostly a waiting game
The longer you wait the more stuff you get to upgrade heroes
Have you used redemption codes to try pull more heroes?

#

You can also rng it skriathderp

onyx rapids
#

I did and i Tried The Level over 50x

wicked gazelle
#

I don’t know much about thoran since I never built him so I’m unsure if he’s helping the team
I can suggest removing him, front lining Daimon and having Arden in the back for his roots ability
If that doesn’t work just and do dailies so can level your heroes

manic violet
jagged pike
#

Hhhhmmmmmmm
Id say drop rosaline for eironn

#

Place nara frontline

terse frigate
pale kettle
#

I have tried everything possible in 11-40 and I cant complete it I've rotated everything around, tried every hero possible and nothing has worked for me. Idk what to do anymore

night lichen
shut token
pale kettle
#

alright ill try that

lapis oar
warm swan
#

@lapis oar Can you try Tasi, Rowan, Fera, Eironn, Lyca? Call, chalice, eye, call, eye

lapis oar
#

Giving that a go

#

That worked O_O
Thank you so much

fossil acorn
#

👍

unique pulsar
#

Need help with 29-24, think i tried like everything already so looking for ideas

languid pier
vast meadow
#

Lucius is god (only) in lb tower

languid pier
#

i merced him but he didnt seem to do the job

warm swan
#

@unique pulsar Try it with Eironn, Tasi, Saf, Rowan, Lyca. I forgot at which chapter you can have access to windbinder, but if you have it, give it to Saf. And call on Eironn and Tasi, chalice on Rowan. Eye on Lyca, unless enemy Tasi banishes your Eironn, in which case equip her with blade.

vast meadow
unique pulsar
languid pier
#

ok ty

left ravine
potent lion
jagged pike
#

Fawkes over hogan brutus frontline ezizh over lucius

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Or estrillda over brutus

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Focus on lyca athalia ezizh prob fawkes and shemira

potent lion
#

Do you mean swap hogan for fawkes or position him above hogan?

jagged pike
#

No hogan

potent lion
jagged pike
#

Tbh ezizh might not survive to long try it though if he dosent work replace him for estrillda

potent lion
#

Okey thanks ill try it brb

jagged pike
#

Did it work

fallen canopy
potent lion
#

Still trying, had to adjust some equip

jagged pike
fallen canopy
#

Can someone help me line up my team?

jagged pike
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Yea

fallen canopy
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I read that i should get these 5 heroes to L+ first

jagged pike
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Frontline: Thoran joker
Backline: daimon rowan izold

potent lion
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Now it worked with ezizh and brutus as frontline thanks a lot

jagged pike
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You dont have to get them L+

fallen canopy
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Joker has only 1 day left, what should i put after?

jagged pike
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Gwyneth or wukong

fallow storm
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I need help with a team please.

jagged pike
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Can i see?

fallow storm
jagged pike
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Uh

fallow storm
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Wrong pic 😂

jagged pike
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What youre stuck on too

fallow storm
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6-21 atm.

jagged pike
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I do not know what that stage is

fallow storm
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Maulers enclave?

jagged pike
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Screenshot the stage pls

fallow storm
warm swan
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@potent lion You're almost at the cap. It's time to think about M heroes.

potent lion
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What color do i want my M heroes to be?

jagged pike
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Dont talk about my lineup ik it sucks

warm swan
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@potent lion That would be red. M+ would be next to that. Type .ascensionguide on #545929173471068170

potent lion
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Okey thank you

fallow storm
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Which heroes that I have @jagged pike

potent lion
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@warm swan ah sorry what i ment was what faction they should be from

warm swan
jagged pike
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Try
Frontline: brutus flora
Baclkine lucreita rowan Belinda

fallow storm
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Thanks

jagged pike
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Np

fallen canopy
sweet badger
jagged pike
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Is albedo 30+

sweet badger
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My guy i dont even have a 20+ I suck at this game

jagged pike
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Shes not that useful then try to replace lucius for lyca for her hastee

sweet badger
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alright thanks

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ok so it was a tire fire

jagged pike
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So it worked?

sweet badger
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lol it didnt

jagged pike
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Oof well try her backline

sweet badger
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who should i switch with her?

jagged pike
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Belinda she could sometimes work idk

chilly mortar
jagged pike
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Idk but try sauras with +30

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Im not smart with those

potent lion
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@warm swan thanks again ill go grave but that will take time cuz its my worst faction right now

sweet badger
languid pier
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defeat the enemy!
tasi

luci
row
brutus
belinda

sweet badger
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already beat it sorry 😅

languid pier
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xd gz

sweet badger
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thanks for the lineup tho

solid yacht
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Well... just passed it with Tasi...

sweet badger
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thats pretty pog good job @solid yacht

solid yacht
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Likewise, man! 👍🏻

lusty osprey
pale monolith
lusty osprey
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Will do, thanks 👍

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It's not working

lusty osprey
warm swan
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@trim fjord You're not. You're basically the same level as the enemies

trim fjord
pale monolith
nimble fossil
sour pond
woven bramble
wooden comet
wooden comet
woven bramble
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@wooden comet the ones at the highest level

wooden comet
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That's not a bad team overall with Lucius and Skreg as tanks, although you might want to switch out Ankhira for Belinda or another damage dealer

brave oriole
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@sour pond if you want to cheese this, you need a weak team around of luc. Try some hypogeans around with nara to cc arden etc

wooden comet
sand breach
wooden comet
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You don't need both Ainz and Safiya technically, unless you plan on using Safiya's field to increase attack

brave oriole
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@sand breach should not be so hard. Try
Lyca
Brutus
Albedo/tasi
Rowan
Ainz

wooden comet
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You could replace Ainz with Rowan to help with survivability and energy cycling, especially since you have a +30 Rowan

sour pond
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do you consider it doable at this point. i tried with ainz-comp, with gb comp. im stuck at this first fight already

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i even switched back to lucretia after i knew how to get her 9/9 furni and used 500 diamonds. but cant do it with her neither

wooden comet
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Might need either a Lyca or a tank with Barricade artifact so Eironn doesn't get bursted too fast. Or maybe a Tasi to help with Crowd Control?

brave oriole
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This stage, should be hella eash with gwyn, just you need the new arti for Agility so fawkes won't coffin

nimble fossil
wooden comet
sour pond
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burned out from all this retries

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shouldnt switch in lucretia for 500 diamonds but shows me that she isnt almigthy - still fuckin strong

brave oriole
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@sour pond I dunno all your heroes, but if you have Arthur
Athalia/nara /ferael
Albedo
Ainz
Arthur
Rowan

woven bramble
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@wooden comet should I switch Ankhira for Grezhul

wooden comet
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No, because Grezhul is a tank and you already have Skreg and Lucius, two very good tanks

woven bramble
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Ok

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So what about Shemira?

sour pond
brave oriole
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Well, ainz get faster energy from rowan positioned like this

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As about Arthur front of ainz it's for his buff, I always put Arthur front of ainz for buff

sour pond
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does he get it faster, when rowan is near to less heroes ?

brave oriole
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Yeah, bcs if rowan it's center there's more heroes so it goes random

sour pond
sour pond
brave oriole
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With rowan like this its only Arthur and ainz in his circle

sour pond
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ainz - rowan - fera - arthur - albedo already used

onyx rapids
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HeyHey Atm im HARDstuck at stage 8-24 (Vampire bat guy) I cant find any way to climb stuck everywhere right now what should i do to get beyond? Please help
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Lightshot

Captured with Lightshot

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@faint current i did read the guides but still im on top ranks on my server Ranked top 25 Tower Top 25 but still i cant pass

brave oriole
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@sour pond first, nara have to pull safiya to cxancel the buff. Then you can add diff heroes. For luc to cheese, you need weak heroes front and luc back, put some hypogeans see if she survives

onyx rapids
sour pond
tacit slate
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@onyx rapids Why? I can't read that language

brave oriole
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@sour pond not rlly, lvl 1 should be okay, just for the faction buff etc. Maybe talene front also

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All you need its to get lucretia ultimate

sour pond
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ok i try now

onyx rapids
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@tacit slate because they r my 5 Characters that i cant reset bcs they in crystal u know what i mena

sour pond
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should lucretia face hendrik or antandra ?

tacit slate
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@onyx rapids Just reset Brutus anyway and bring him to level 81. Use the extra xp on Daimon. If he is still not 120, do the same thing to Lyca. Also ideally you should only be leveling heroes that are Rare at base, as opposed to people like Brutus and Lyca

brave oriole
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Should be Backline, put something else front, talene and ezizh or so

sour pond
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ah kk

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middle back or top back if it does matter

brave oriole
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Where ever she survive

sour pond
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by now she didnt manage to do one ult in all my tries xd

brave oriole
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Well, add more cc, athalia to cc morvus

sour pond
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dont have one copy of her

brave oriole
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Kelthur?

sour pond
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im tryhing with 4 hypogeans now

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seems to work better she ultimated sometimes and took some enemy out be fore she died - yea i got kelthur

brave oriole
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Just move around heroes until she's better

sour pond
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does kelthurs swap cc morvus a bit ? or whats the idea behind kelthur, i didnt put him in crystal

brave oriole
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@sour pond yeah, but well, try Brutus front with talene down, see how's going

granite apex
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Can I get some help? Not really sure how to counter the mehira, I’ve been recommended nara in the past but she doesn’t really do anything for me here- ping if you can help, Thanks.

rustic oxide
summer cedar
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32-56 anyone?

rustic oxide
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mbe?

wicked gazelle
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maybe

rustic oxide
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thanks @summer cedar Ill play around with this set up.

brave oriole
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@granite apex well, yeah, nara should help. But if you play with eironn middle, you need dura's call on, to cc fast ezizh. Ainz may work too, but this would need Arthur I guess. Maybe you can find a replacement for Arthur, ezio?

sour pond
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no success - dont know if its possible to cheese this with lucretia- should i try another comp without lucretia

granite apex
sour pond
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do you got a lyca - she has higher atk than eironn so enemy tasi bans her first

granite apex
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yes

sour pond
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then use lyca with eironn so tasi bans your lyca first

granite apex
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yeah my eironn still gets banished first

sour pond
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then put blade on lyca

granite apex
sour pond
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it that little in front of ainz rowan ?

granite apex
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wdym

sour pond
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who that hero in front of ainz is ? should be rowan

granite apex
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thats rowan in front of ainz

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and tasi beneath rowan