lineup-help

[pale kettle]

Yes... you gonna need to think about heroes with signiture items soon

[cerulean cedar]

i'd say Belinda would work better than Ankhira, and maybe use the Athalia

[autumn pulsar]

I don't got a brutus

[languid pier]

this is my current 'line up' @ 24-40
should I get joker or queen and who would I replace?
tnx in advance

[shell sequoia]

if i use athalia who should i replace with her

[cerulean cedar]

depends on which you think is doing the least in your team

[shell sequoia]

hmm

[sour pond]

Tried unfortunately didnt work i ty

[ivory glade]

Anything I can do here?

[grim nova]

any1 got 33-54 clear

[forest dirge]

@ivory glade

@grim nova I was a few levels higher because I did it before they nerfed power requirement, but this might still work

[grim nova]

i appreciate it i actually just beat it with this tho LOL

[forest dirge]

nice gz

[grim nova]

i see so many replays with 30 safi but i still dont feel like using emblems on her

just more retries as always

[forest dirge]

You don't need her +30.

[grim nova]

yea i considered it for mauler tower but that was before i ascended tidus lol

[sour pond]

Any hints?

[pale kettle]

Advice?

[subtle inlet]

Pvp Comp need 3 ):

[ancient relic]

Help with this stage please!

[pale kettle]

@ancient relic well at first put belinda at back

[sour pond]

Try lucretia she is pretty nuts

[pale kettle]

Advice?

[sour pond]

Help

[proven gulch]

Hey guys I have sig items for albedo and ainz. Who should I unlock a sig for next?

[sour pond]

Rowan first to +30 then eiron to +30 then saurus to +30
Daimon lyca to 20

Ideas? 💡

[lyric kiln]

Guys i need help, they really fast kill Ulmus 🤓

[ebon hazel]

Anyone know why discord keeps marking my box as explicit content?

[sour pond]

Ulmus is worst hero from wilders shouldnt upgrade him in the very first place

[lyric kiln]

My is myhtical

Fffffffff 😭 I have worst herooo

[sour pond]

XDD

[summer cedar]

sometimes u gotta draw on it. im not sure why that is it hasn't happened to me yet

[lyric kiln]

Im gonna do suicide

[ebon hazel]

Does it seem possible to do 24-36 with that box?

Warek should just be removed from the game

[summer cedar]

warek is great for bosses. +80% dmg is busted

[ebon hazel]

Not great to fight though

Gonna need to +30 Izoid just to kill him

[lyric kiln]

Guys which hero should i use for Ulmus or how to say, to remove Ulmus and use new 🤓😅

[ebon hazel]

Rarity wise id keep him, but not progress him more then levels.
Brutus is a good full tank to use, estrilda is an okay replacement for CC and CC countera

[lyric kiln]

What is CC? Xd

[magic oriole]

crowd control

[sour pond]

Help me ty

[misty flume]

Hello guys, I would like some help too pls

[lyric kiln]

Thank you too much i transfered Armor from Ulmus to Estrilda and i won stage tyyy

[misty flume]

I'm pretty early game and new to the game as well so I don't know much about line ups

I'm struggling to be 9-20 in campaign though

Beat*

[ebon hazel]

Cc is stuff like stuns knockdowns and sleeps, stops the enemy from doing something

[sour pond]

Nice hero choices for a newbie 👍🏼

[sour pond]

Try to get rowan, u can use arden/ saveas until 160

By now use daimon - lyca - rowan - tasi - arden

Make an arden legendary + and use him as sup

[misty flume]

I watched some volkin teir lists for early game and stuff like that I just didn't know who to put in my team

[sour pond]

Daimon tasi eironn lyca are also awesome in late

[misty flume]

Ok

[leaden thunder]

Just started a new account. Hella mad, I haven't even pulled twins on my main and I got them on this account.

[misty flume]

:0

[leaden thunder]

Is this a decent start for a Izold carry? Is there any heroes I should look out for?

[lyric kiln]

@ebon hazel Can you say me some hero that is good at 140 lvl?

[ebon hazel]

You should stop making yellows until you can get them to yellow with corner

[lyric kiln]

Ik that xd

[ebon hazel]

Thoran Sevaes Fawkes and Brutus can all do their job at 140 or below

[lyric kiln]

I need someone for this stage

[narrow sleet]

Was thinking of upgrading fawkes

[ebon hazel]

Move Shemira to the center and try that, maybe drop rowan or Rosa for nemisu

[ebon hazel]

Focus more on getting levels up then M Fawkes

[worn pecan]

any idea for this one ?

[narrow sleet]

Should i just level up my estrilda since u said go for levels?

[ebon hazel]

Sure? She can get to 160 so not bad choice

[narrow sleet]

Also shall i go for saurus or tasi legendary?

[ebon hazel]

Neither, don't make L unless you can instantly get them to L+

[narrow sleet]

Ahh ok

[ebon hazel]

Avoid hitting the points that ask for copies of the hero

[lyric kiln]

Bruh Rowan and Thoras dies fasr

[ebon hazel]

Drop rowan or Rosa for brutus or nemisu

Thoran is meant to die, but maybe not usable if he dies too fast after his revive

[lyric kiln]

Yeah he dies fast after

[ebon hazel]

Something like this could work

[lyric kiln]

Okay imma try thanks 🤓

[violet igloo]

@lyric kiln try and get Shemira to lvl 189 before leveling Lucius

[lyric kiln]

They still die fast

[lyric kiln]

Okay i doin that

@ebon hazel Sry for using ur time xd

[ebon hazel]

It's alright, I'm just in a math test .

[lyric kiln]

Say if u need help xd

[dark socket]

Help 🙂

[teal hill]

Guys. Can i get suggestions for synergic teams for Challenger and Hesperia events?
I currently use.
1- Front: Lucius, Talene. Back: Ainz, Rowan, tasi
2- Front: Brutus, Mezoth. Back: theowyn, Ferael, Shemira
3- Front: Skreg, Seirus. Back: Nemora, Safiya, Rosaline.

I was advised to combine Pippa and Tasi, should i and leave twins in the first team?

[sour pond]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

Advice?

[sour pond]

Does your rosa follow belinda or eironn???

[pale kettle]

Bel

[sour pond]

Ok then right positioning

[pale kettle]

Arden roots eiroon so hes pretty useless

[sour pond]

You could try to switch position from lyca with rowan

[pale kettle]

And nemora also charms bela so she betrays her rosa

And it doesnt work

Eironn
->rosa
Bel
->rowan
Lyca

How do i killarden

[magic oriole]

nara

[lyric kiln]

Something just kill they idk what some splash dmg

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle Belinda is your main dps, Eironn is kind redundant but not useless. Does he survive enough to ult?

[pale kettle]

Nope cuz arden roots him always him nit anyome else

And then ogi yeets hin away

I mean hes the one who carries me sometimes

[sour pond]

Again asking. A small hint/ counter suggestion is appreciated already

[lyric kiln]

Im nub and i wanna ask u why u dont wanna use 3 stars herroes?

[sour pond]

Okay got it by myself ignore

[pale kettle]

Gorvo tried to carry...

[vocal kettle]

Hali-gali, Everybody!
Any suggestions? I can't def my team. No lucius ultimate, and shemira also maybe could cast it.

[lyric kiln]

I still need help 😅 Rowan, Brutus, Thoran, Dies fast

[summer cedar]

@sour pond

[proper glade]

Anything I can do?

[summer cedar]

15 heroes aren't enough context for proper help

[proper glade]

lmao

At best, Saveas and Isabella are still there and Saveas just one or two shots everything

[brave oriole]

@vocal kettle I would rather put Cecilia on Isabela. But your Lucius dies bcs he doesn't use call, and not Backline. Try
Lucius call
Brutus or lyca
Nemora to charm ferael
Shemira
Rosaline

[vocal kettle]

Thank you.
Too weak my nemcsak and Brutus for here. The biggest problem is with faraels terrorizal skill

[brave oriole]

@vocal kettle this its why nemora, restart if she didn't charmed ferael

[proper glade]

What's Call?

[brave oriole]

@proper glade the artifact, durss call, helps Lucius to shield up faster

[proper glade]

I see.

[brave oriole]

@sour pond ainz should tank athalia just fine with arthur front

[sour pond]

Whats the best artifact in campaign for ainz tho

[brave oriole]

I dunno, i use eye or the new mage artifact

[sour pond]

Kk i also used windbinder or blade but i will try eye this time

[summer cedar]

I use call on ainz. do u need the lineup still?

[brave oriole]

39 47

[summer cedar]

brutus albedo lyca rowan shem would be my pick

[brave oriole]

From some alt of mine

[summer cedar]

mine if u don't have 9f ainz.

[sour pond]

Ow do i need my ainz to have 9 furnis to make his comps work

[brave oriole]

Nah

[summer cedar]

I mean it certainly helps but not required

[fiery void]

is it a good idea to rush Shemira to 161 before I continue the others?

[sour pond]

Are the artifacts okay?

[woven horizon]

i need help with this campaign mission, i need 2 support heroes in the lineup for this

[brave oriole]

@sour pond I'm not for ainz with call, eye for attack speed and crits looks better to me

[proper glade]

Not bad. Still death for everyone

[robust forum]

I can’t seem to get past this stage, does anyone have any advice?

[sour pond]

Oof totally hardstuck

[summer cedar]

did u try my lineup? it should work I didn't even have my gear done at the time

[sour pond]

Ok will give it a try again

What are the best relicts for each of them

[summer cedar]

daimon and tasi always gets call. rowan shud too, unless mbe chalice. fera and lyca like eye but if u lack dodge gear they may need grace.

altho looking back I'm genuinely shocked I played tasi in that position...
🤷 I mean it worked, so...

[sour pond]

Alright ty maaaan ty!! I used the resources in my bag to level my heroes up for this stage

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[mild geyser]

Sorry thought i was in wrong chat

Shem Brutus tasi Rowan Rosa?

[pale kettle]

Shem and Brutus front?

[mild geyser]

12345 order

[pale kettle]

@mild geyser didn't work

[mild geyser]

Perhaps arden instead of tasi

[serene juniper]

im a new player this is my current comp and randomly just pulled twins, who i put them in for? https://gyazo.com/b5efa4fbc44174dfe0ecfb4a47953707

[grand perch]

Hello @serene juniper,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[cedar nexus]

Can some one give me 3 strong comps out of my hero’s? For the hero’s of espria event

[raw rose]

Heya, I am incapable when it comes to PvP involving more than 1 formation, Any advices about good line-ups for Heroes of Esperia from my champ pool? (ideally tag me/pm me, so i notice :). )

[deft plaza]

I'm at chapter 13, any characters out of my list that might be able to help me out?

[sour pond]

Any tips - got it already

[ebon hazel]

Any idea how to deal with a front Tasi

[brave oriole]

@sour pond pulling Brutus for what? Just put front rowan Brutus, and make a Backline with daimon lyca and maybe safiya or tasi

@ebon hazel not rlly, maybe the new artifact for Agility

If you have ainz, he may be imune of tasi tho

[ebon hazel]

No ainz, can't get specialized artifacts in W24

So two carries sounds like best option?

[brave oriole]

This is gwyn nightmare, tasi or fawkes

[ebon hazel]

Yeah just had to move Nara in for fawkes but can't get Nara to survive for tasi

[brave oriole]

Do you have a safiya? You may survive longer, and maybe swap rowan with Rosa

[gentle magnet]

misty valley, killing 2 frontliners first stage 11 gold chest, eiron pull kills fereal too easily, anyone cleared this ?

[ebon hazel]

Safiya still L+, where would I put her?

[brave oriole]

On Brutus place

[ebon hazel]

Safiya
Estrilda
Gwen
Rosa
Rowan?

[brave oriole]

Yeah

[somber shoal]

Any help here? Kinda stuck her for a long long time now

[brave oriole]

@somber shoal kinda weird your team, I mean, you can try
Nara
Lyca
Lucius dura's csll
Shem
Daimon/Rosa

[gentle magnet]

try to place eiron on tasi's place, and switch lucius with daimon ? and replace lucius with tasi.

[knotty flare]

What should I field as a defense for HoE with martial ratings?

[ebon hazel]

Not working too well

[sour pond]

Helpu

[brave oriole]

@sour pond ainz team

I will search a ss of mine

[gentle magnet]

thank you ill try

[low apex]

beginning to think this stage is not possible at my current level

[mild geyser]

rn im trying rowan tasi lyca nara eironn

tasi can sometimes dodge and ult

although my eironn isnt very built

[low apex]

this guy beat it at lvl 280 https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/kgtya5/2954_can_anyone_help_me_beat_this_stage/

[proper pagoda]

can someone make me 3 HoE formations if i send heroes?

[sour pond]

How can you win this stage with such lower level i feel so bad now xd and my talene doesnt work for me at legendary . She is just punching bag

[jagged pike]

Any help on this?

[summer cedar]

show box

[jagged pike]

Like all my characters

[summer cedar]

ya

[low apex]

its tough cause you don't really have a carry, i guess belinda technically is but i wouldn't even recommend resetting grezhul to make belinda 220 cause she falls off very soon for you

[summer cedar]

I'd try grez brutus tasi rowan belinda. also u shud stop building L heroes ur splitting ur fodder

[low apex]

oh wow i just saw all those L heroes, ya that's going to slow you down by months unfortunately

[jagged pike]

So take them off the resonating crystal?

[low apex]

no its too late, you already used fodder on them

[jagged pike]

Oof

[low apex]

the best way to progress is to leave all your heroes at elite+ until you get 8 copies of them so you can send them to ascended rigth away

[jagged pike]

Ok

[summer cedar]

it's not about putting them on crystal. you've burned 2 E+ fodder on every L hero, when ur main 5 could have used those fodders to get to say, Ascended, by now

[serene juniper]

Is this best positioning for this comp? https://gyazo.com/d91fed7ec10316a9b4c8da1cf458944a

[low apex]

at that level any random thing works lol, i wouldn't worry about positioning too much just yet

also it will always depend on enemy position too

[summer cedar]

I would run another tank or support in place of eironn. but this always varies by enemy position

[ebon hazel]

This ain't working.

[low apex]

it's such a low level that most abiltiies aren't even unlocked yet so everyone is basically just a stat stick

[summer cedar]

show box

[jagged pike]

I died 18 seconds in is there a certain position i should place them

[brave oriole]

@ebon hazel you can use fawkes to remove Belinda, dunno if it helps

[ebon hazel]

Fawkes E dies too fast even geared

[summer cedar]

I give lineups from 1-5. granted I'm not perfect u can mess around w it

[brave oriole]

Deppends where you place him. Niru usually one hit if going on his side @ebon hazel

[ebon hazel]

Put him where saf is

[sour pond]

Made it - to which stage can i push with my current repertoire??

[low apex]

@summer cedar any thoughts on this stage? Been stuck for a very long time.

[brave oriole]

Bscly, deppends of your second team, if you have one available carry, and you should, chap 32

[brave oriole]

@low apex daimon it, but use nara to pull mehira

[low apex]

I did try rowan- lyca - tasi - nara - daimon around 400 times already with no luck lol. I might just be underlevel

[ebon hazel]

What level is multi fight added

[brave oriole]

I would try
Lyca
Brutus
Nara
Rowan
Daimon

[low apex]

hmm never considered brutus yet, ill give it a bunch of tries!

[brave oriole]

Brutus debuff should help,

[low apex]

ill try it for 20 mins and let you know how it went lol

[brave oriole]

All i can remember is that I had rowan front of eironn, and pulled mehira with nara, then rowan stunned her, used call on rowan for stun, but i can't remember the upside heroes, I passed the stage too many times

[warm girder]

Any tips ? I managed to get to only Tasci and Lyca surviving against my Tasci but thats it xD

[brave oriole]

@warm girder usually, you need safiya to kill tasi, or Saurus

[warm girder]

i have a m+ safiya

[brave oriole]

Should work

[warm girder]

Instead of ? I just got completly oneshot when i put Ferael away

[brave oriole]

Try then
Nara
Lyca
Eironn
Rowan
Safiya

[brave oriole]

Rowan chalice or grace I guess, eironn can be call to freeze faster

[warm girder]

allright, will try both !

appreciate it guys, thanks alot

[mild geyser]

also if you ferael a tasi expect a lot of retries

[brave oriole]

I like Brutus when daimon, the debuff is great 😢

[warm girder]

Managed to beat it with @mild geyser formation, thanks mate ! I just needed to put Daimon Top Backline, otherwise it worked perfectly.

[mild geyser]

congrats

[sour pond]

Double stage begun

[low apex]

No luck, tried the comp for the last 40 mins straight lol

[lone grail]

What’s the meta for hoe

[mild geyser]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/kvuvsp/comprehensive_pvp_guide_by_arty_alpattex/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
this has some comps

[sharp spoke]

any help pls

[fathom flare]

Help? Lucius die to nearly any hero to replace it?

[sharp spoke]

try lucius-estrilda and backlane tasi-shemira-roseline

[fathom flare]

Help? @sharp spoke it did not work

[sour pond]

Did pve got more difficult after introduction of furniture?? All the old yt comps dont work for me and they beat the stages with much lower levels..

[fossil solar]

Please help. Idk why this lineup isn't working

[opal ermine]

This stage is so hard, i almost run out of dura tears 😭

[sour pond]

Any ideas?

[summer cedar]

athalia does nothing here, esp not at purple. rowan tasi fera etc work WAY better

[thorny hollow]

Can anyone help with this stage ?

[summer cedar]

brutus

[fossil solar]

@summer cedar i was using this

[summer cedar]

ur eironn isn't si30

[fossil solar]

True. I was just trying

[thorny hollow]

Guys help me with this stage please... beeen stuck for 6 days

[fossil solar]

Haha same level

[thorny hollow]

lmao

[brave oriole]

@thorny hollow you need to pull safiya

With nara I guess

[summer cedar]

try tasi 3 rowan 4

[thorny hollow]

It worked -_-

[fossil solar]

Lucky. Not working for me

Nimishu is a pain, throws daimon all over chasing

I tried tasi 3 and rowan 4, and also configurations with nara, no luck

[cold cove]

Need help getting past this stage. Everyone I have dies way too fast. I’m trying to merc a gwenyth to help.

[worn pilot]

Is my lineup good? It isn't beating this stage

[true tree]

Is the faction bonus (3 graveborn 2 lightbearer) important enough to warrant keeping daimon in over putting Saraus in his place? Sauras has more health defense and damage so I'm thinking it would go better if I replace daimon with him

Not having any trouble on this stage I'm just wondering like in the long run if sauras would be better

[brave oriole]

Only with high si

[vast meadow]

I used Ainz 9/9, Albedo 3/9 and Ezizh

[true tree]

high si?

[brave oriole]

@true tree yeah, the signature item, that you unlock after mythic. But all in all, its okay to have Saurus first wilder ascended, helps a lot everywhere

[true tree]

ah i see ok thanks

[worn pilot]

Still struggling

[velvet belfry]

@worn pilot replace daimon with hogan and lyca with rosa

you can also reset thoran and level up wukong or estrilda instead as frontline. pay attention to faction bonus, your frontlines are at disadvantage

[worn pilot]

I reset WuKong because he hit lvl cap at 120

[lucid flume]

help what lineup need to push chapters? 2days old server

[velvet belfry]

thats fine but he can still be useful here

[worn pilot]

I also just tried the newly adjusted setup, the problem is their full team shield that keeps me from dealing damage

[velvet belfry]

do you mean nemoras healing?

[worn pilot]

Not sure because it's blue bubble, but she is a problem

The bubbles are impenetrable

[velvet belfry]

put thoran in front of ogi and hogan in front of the skeleton, and rowan in the bottom so ogi wastes time on him after thoran dies

your win condition is gonna be mirael double ults with rosa so focus on buying time for that. rosa does follow mirael right?

[velvet belfry]

daimon hogan niru tasi rowan

[worn pilot]

Yeah, she does. Let me try first setup

[lucid flume]

thx

[worn pilot]

Okay @velvet belfry I tried
What happens is either: after Hogan dies, they go for Rosa or Mirael. Mirael dies fast and so does Rosa

But so far, Rowan and Thane do their jobs

[sweet tinsel]

Anyone got advice for this stage?

[brave oriole]

@sweet tinsel you may need nara to pull safiya, or athalia
Try
Nara /athalia
Arthur
Ainz
Rowan
Albedo

I may find a ss from some alt of mine

[solar shard]

So... I've hit a wall here

[nova chasm]

this grezhul/ferael comp always stops me in campaign

[lucid parrot]

Whats a good lineup for shemira carry?

[solar shard]

So... I'm stuck here

[nova chasm]

did you try adding daimon?

hes the best char i see there

[stuck beacon]

Daimon silas combo rly good

[lavish oak]

Any suggestions for beating this stage? I’m pretty stuck

[nova chasm]

saveas 1 shots lucius?

[lavish oak]

No he gets one shield off but then dies usually

[nova chasm]

ive been using brutus to cheese shots from damage dealers for many chapters

i dont know much of eironn

pulling brutus and golus makes it worse probably

just try switching positions for eironn maybe

[sweet tinsel]

@brave oriole Thanks for the advice. I'm trying the team that you used for your completion right now. Did you have to retry a lot to get it?

[nimble fossil]

Can I get some help with my lineup for Stage 19 in Misty Valley?

[summer cedar]

merc available. that's essentially my roster. gb tower 280. advice appreciated

[summer cedar]

possibly saurus brutus tasi rowan daimon?

[nimble fossil]

Retried 5 times, I survive for a bit longer each time, but I still end up getting clapped

[final star]

Usually I just merc an Izold

[sour pond]

Bc of your taunt i pushed until 31-06 and ended up playing campaign half of the day

[final star]

Nice now push 32

[sour pond]

[nimble fossil]

Now I need help on Stage 20 I need some way to kill Zolrath early so he doesn’t go back in time

Because I can kill all of them, but when he goes back in time, I get wiped out in 5 seconds

[sour pond]

Did you try to athalia him

[final star]

Atha can't stop him, only option is to burst him down or survive the déjà vu

[sour pond]

Hmm

Maybe burst with eironn + athalia can this work?

[final star]

Just run the usual Tasi Rowan Fer/Safiya Eironn Lyca comp or Ainz, should be ezpz

[full pulsar]

i need suggestion guys.. what should i do to make my eirron carry my team

[sour pond]

sHoUlDnT hE bE iN mUcH hIgHer ChApTEr wItH CRysTaL LvL 289 ?‘!.?

[nimble fossil]

But who’s all in which spot?

[final star]

I said it respectively, 1-5

Wait nvm, your Rowan isn't +30

Lyca Saurus Tasi Eironn Rowan for a change maybe, Saurus should get Rowan potion and just kill everyone 🤔

[nimble fossil]

My Lyca Isn’t built either, sadly

[charred mason]

Should Queen be the main dps or added as a 2nd?

[nimble fossil]

Just tried it two times, and Zolrath still ends up turning back time

Nevermind, I finally got it on the 5th retry. Thank you ^^

[final star]

Ayy nice, sometimes it's about more retries

[mortal loom]

So,how bad is this line up?

[west ruin]

Should i just forget about gwyneth and use her to ascend belinda eventually? Didnt plan on getting enough gwyneth copies to ascend her lol...

Or is gwyneth actually more useful

[final star]

Gwyn is more useful, also don't fodder asceneded heroes

[west ruin]

already have fodderd stuff like thane, hendrik and raine lol

[final star]

Thane is meh, the other two are very useful later on

[west ruin]

I cant have everybody, if i just save everyone ill never progress lol

[final star]

Not really, I progressed just fine without feeding any asceneded tiers

[summer cedar]

I'm in ch32 and I've saved everyone...

[west ruin]

O? Damn every hero ascended

[final star]

Generally don't fodder ascended heroes unless you know for sure what you're doing

[west ruin]

100% not gonna use thane hendrik or raine on any of my teams so it was meh

But gwyn is pretty solid so idk

[final star]

Not yet that is

[west ruin]

Nah i know i wont use those 3 anway

[final star]

You're not at a point in the game when they're useful but trust me they will become useful 🤔

Welp if you're sure about it then go for it, I'm just here to recommend stuffs

[pure horizon]

Any ideas for a lineup for a beginner

Oh btw the reason I have a lot of heroes is cuz I got scrolls from redeeming codes

[final star]

I suggest you read pinned in #classic-questions @pure horizon

[pale kettle]

any tips in general for stages where my tanks just too quickly for my supports to use their abilities? i think i definitely want rowan in there and using tasi/arden for cc. i tried swapping arden with fawkes but didnt have much luck either. am i just too weak for the stage?

[marble coyote]

Alright. So. I'm caving in. And asking here. I've been stuck on 20-42 for days now. Any comp suggestions?

[stuck kelp]

Help

[dense dew]

Can someone point me to a guide for pvp line ups for the event

[round kraken]

Any ideas ?

[iron meadow]

Any ideas for pvp teams for esperia

[lament whale]

Yo guys is this good?

[pale kettle]

Can someone help? Chapter 11 was hard, but this is ridiculous. Mirael deletes my whole team, i tried every combination already.. and its not even a boss!

[pale monolith]

Rowan mid, switch Daimon with Belinda and maybe a Cecilia on that Mirael

[thick bloom]

I got stuck on that level for so long. I think I finally beat it by hooking mirael with nara and repeating until I got good rng with my heroes lol

[pale kettle]

Thx guys, I get a few more crystal Spots later today. Ill definitely try with cecilia and nara. Maybe even reset my belinda and get daimon to 140

[mint sail]

can I know current meta/best line-up for Wrizz and Soren (Guild Bosses)?

[delicate gyro]

Roseline/good DPS
Saurus
Rowan
Grezhul
Twins

Try to make it so Roseline supports Saurus or Twins

@mint sail

[vital torrent]

ideas for artifacts? Shemira can almost kill them all with duras call, but dies at Niru

[vast meadow]

You have to wipe out niru first because Niru powers up when you defeat other opponents

[vital torrent]

Hmm, not sure how tho

[spare portal]

would try resetting shem and levelling daimon to 220, definitely a better carry. Can try eye on nemora if she doesn't have also

[vital torrent]

I do have eye on nemora - I thought shemira would be hypercarry till ch 25 then u swap out with daimon, but I might be wrong, because daimon sustain isnt insane rn

[pulsar crest]

similar-ish stage, been struggling with it for the past couple days. any suggestions?

[vast meadow]

Do you have Nara or Cecilia? Brutus isn't a good damage dealer

[vital torrent]

I have elite+ nara and elite+ cecilie aswell @vast meadow

I have some fodder to get htem both to legendary, maybe Nara to legend+

[pulsar crest]

btw in this case is it better to get each hero to 220, one at each time, or work on getting all to 200 before so I can make ainz 240?

[winter sparrow]

Can someone make me a 3 team please?

[final star]

Godcomp and Ainz probably

Last comp would be Eironn but it's kinda weak due to no Skriath for 5 pull

For Ainz maybe run Arthur Lyca Ainz Ezio Albedo, try to get Albedo +20 and Ainz +20 respectively

Godcomp is pretty self-explanatory, Talene tasi Twins Rowan Ezizh

[sharp spoke]

help pls

[agile cipher]

Anyone have some advice for 3 good pvp teams for heroes of esperia?

[lyric kiln]

Guys i need helpp they dies really fast

[final star]

well you can't really make "good" teams with those heroes

[lyric kiln]

Can you help mee? Xd

[final star]

uhhh have u tried using shem as frontline so she gets her ult off faster? 🤔

[lyric kiln]

Frontline? Switch with? Xd im very nub

[agile cipher]

Shemira and lucius as frontline

[final star]

do u have arden? could use him as a replacement for ulmus at 141

[lyric kiln]

Wait switch with Ulmus shem?

[final star]

try switching shem with luc first, does luc get his shield off?

[lyric kiln]

He cant dies fast

[final star]

then put him backline and see if he gets the shield off

[lyric kiln]

Ok

[final star]

this is hard cuz I can't test things for myself lol, usually I just spam things

[agile cipher]

Yeah sometimes just changing the position of your heroes can make a big difference

[lyric kiln]

When Lucius is backline he get his shield but also die after some time imma try Esperilda or how names switch with Rowan

Also die....

[final star]

keep trying with that line up, rowan helps with energy for shem

[lyric kiln]

Okay thanks xd

[brave oriole]

You can replace ulmus with a hypogean and put it front of Lucius, Lucius should have dura's call

[lyric kiln]

Bro some little killing Shem and Rowan from back, and Rosaline diess fast

[brave oriole]

The 30%def would help you

[lyric kiln]

Thank you imma try

[brave oriole]

Try
Lucius dura's call
Hypogean
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan

[brave oriole]

I would use dura's grace on shemira or so

[lyric kiln]

Which

[brave oriole]

Doesn't matter, any

[lyric kiln]

Okay thanks

U think this @brave oriole ?

[brave oriole]

No
Lucius
Hypogean
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan

[lyric kiln]

Ahaa thanks i know now

Again rowan and hypo dies fast

[final star]

thank god xperta is here

[brave oriole]

Hypo it's supposed to die fast, did Lucius shielded up?

[lyric kiln]

Yeah Lucius shielded and Shem and Lucius been last

[brave oriole]

Okay, what's shem gear?

You need to buy from guild shop, weapon and shoes Mythic first for shem, then shoes for Lucius

Rowan and rosaline mostly need shoes with stars too, for mspd

[lyric kiln]

This i have 2 artifacts or how it named

[brave oriole]

Mhm, where's your guild coins? 😢

You should have till now mythic items on shemira

[lyric kiln]

Xd i buyed legy items... Im idiot

[brave oriole]

Oh, very pro

[final star]

[lyric kiln]

Thanks thats me 🤓

[brave oriole]

Did you finished the misty valley run? It gives some guild coins, not sure when it's unlocked the second chest

But they may help you,

[lyric kiln]

Valley run?

[brave oriole]

From voyage of wonders

It's unlocked or not yet?

[lyric kiln]

Durex xd condom gg 🤓 Sry smile time xdd

[final star]

[lyric kiln]

I cant even touch nothing

[brave oriole]

Oh, it's not there, where the peaks are, on that map

[lyric kiln]

Wtf is ur team

[brave oriole]

Ahh, wait it's not unlocked then

[brave oriole]

You need to finish more chapter to unlock it 😢 anyway, keep trying

[lyric kiln]

I dont know how to do Rest In Peace

[brave oriole]

You may need a strong mercenary, like a rowan +30

[lyric kiln]

Strong mercentary what? Rowan +30 what?

[pale kettle]

i think you can

[brave oriole]

Do you see mercenary options on friends box?

[lyric kiln]

Ik

[pale kettle]

im too nervous to request a 5 star from any of my guild

[lyric kiln]

Im not nervous to do that xdd

[pale kettle]

Just get a good ainz from mercs. He only has to ult and most enemies just insta die. It gets easier the further you progress due to the relics too

[brave oriole]

Since you are under 240,a dps would be a too low lvl, supports are better

What's your merc lvl?

[lyric kiln]

Merc?

[brave oriole]

Mercenary, yeah

[pale kettle]

I cleared it with 60 Level difference just yesterday too..ainz ftw. So sad i didnt play when he was available

[vital torrent]

im doing all 200 so I can get to 240 + heroes in crystal gets 200 too

[lyric kiln]

U think this?

[brave oriole]

Well, if you want an advice, next time get rowan Saurus +30

[lyric kiln]

U say to me?

[brave oriole]

Yeah, for labs peaks etc

[lyric kiln]

Idk what u wanna say xd advice for peaks or?

[brave oriole]

Peaks of time, where you can't finish it

Rowan will help you a lot, your shemira and Lucius will stay alive

So return this vurk, and look for a +30 rowan

[lyric kiln]

Kk thx

[brave oriole]

I may have one on my alt, let me see

Add this and take the rowan

[lyric kiln]

Ok

Thx but i cant wtf

[brave oriole]

Will help on labyrinth a lot and peaks of time, guild hunting

[lyric kiln]

Ahaaa okayy thanks

[brave oriole]

Yeah, you can once each week, but can be used in guild hunting, labyrinth, peaks, etc etc

There's no limit for

Well, now try to finish your peak of time

[lyric kiln]

Thanks u are reallly good for other people and that things for helping big thanks 😀

Ok

[royal thorn]

Any tips on this one?

[brave oriole]

@royal thorn maybe eironn where talene is

[royal thorn]

Nvm, just did another random retry and got it done xD

[neat scroll]

I am new in game, my lineup is good?

[pale kettle]

idk but i think maybe put joker in backline

when i used him for trial run he died instantly in frontline

[neat scroll]

Ok, thnks

[past urchin]

He wont die.
He is 20 levels above the enemies :)

[pale kettle]

yeah but in later game he needs to be backline

early game it would be fine

maybe up to like stage 10-40

[past urchin]

Its a trial joker.
3 days and he is gone.

[pale kettle]

yeah

[tender mesa]

Hard stuck please help

I tried 10 different comps atleast

[untold osprey]

I actually play Shemira/Brutus/Arden/Lyca/Tasi, but I don't have enough dps bc Shemira si not L+. What should I put L+ here ? Mirael like the guides says or Belinda ? I'm at 11-21
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/799224441577144331/Screenshot_20210114-112937_47e34770686d588e926c728cacae2c43.jpg

[outer gyro]

Eiron Queen Lyca Brutus Lucius

[tender mesa]

In that order ?

[outer gyro]

Eiron pulls them into queens spin

currently erionn is pulling them onto rowan, who melts I'm guessing. You want him to ult

[lyric kiln]

Guyss i dont know when im here

[outer gyro]

You need Lyca and Kaz to unlock the stone

They're in the recruit camps, use them against the final boss and the stone unlocks

[lyric kiln]

I have

[tender mesa]

@outer gyro arden roots me super fast and I can't do anything

[lyric kiln]

Where is final boss wtf?

[outer gyro]

The one in the top left where you get the second or third Kaz message

1000 reps or get levelling @tender mesa

[tender mesa]

Yeah I know

[lyric kiln]

There but i dont have kaz to kill him

[tender mesa]

Focus eironn with the levels ?

[lyric kiln]

I cant use Kaz for killing him*

[untold osprey]

I had the same issue, I had to redo it. You have to cancel the 3 traps, then do the camp on the top and finally go here

[untold osprey]

Any advice ?

[lyric kiln]

Aha thanks

[outer gyro]

Just realised you're below the 50% power of the opponent. You need to be above that to have a chance. Stick queen and the other female mauler in front, have eiron back centre for the pull, rowan back top and lucius back bottom

[brave oriole]

@tender mesa I would link the queen to eironn, then reset silvina and atandra to 140,and then put the rest of exp on Belinda

[quaint kiln]

Help pls

[pale kettle]

So im able to get daimon to M, but have to sacrifice my silvina who actually did a good job
I should probably still do it, right? Who do i replace her with? My main team is Belinda/Daimon/Rowan/Silas/Silvina

yes, get rid of silvina
get daimon to +20 ASAP

[hidden cobalt]

10-40?

Iv attempted to put nem at bottom but the bat guy never gets charmed :/

[undone zenith]

What should my mains be I'm new

[pale kettle]

Kk, should i replace her with farael or cecilia?
I also almost have enough fodder to get rowan to M. Which sig is more important?

cecilia is good for decreasing damage done by enemy carry, she is basically silvina 2.0
ferael goes REALLY WELL with ferael, but only after he is lvl 221

so... cecilia

Alrighty, thx mate :)

@pale kettle if u have 300 red emblems, get rowan to +30
if not, get daimon to +20 then get rowan to +30

[pale kettle]

Oof i dont even have 50 red emblems.. well, Daimon it is 👍

oof, yea daimon +20 is rly good

[neat scroll]

can someone help me make a good line up?

[cobalt radish]

Hey guys, what's a good lineup for King's tower? I'm stuck at 405 and can't get any traction.

[sick light]

need help making a line up for 13-27

[warm swan]

Maybe put more levels on Shem than the rest of team, and try her on frontline. Rosa and Lyca for more boost to her energy.

[hidden cobalt]

Ideas ?

[warm swan]

Did you try charming Vedan? Who does Tasi banish? How many times can Mira ult?

[hidden cobalt]

he avoids it like the plauge

from nem

[outer gyro]

You've messed up your ascension order a little bit, but it's not irredeemable. Focus on getting Lucius/Belinda to Legend+. You can't ascend the mage past L+, so you're going to his a power roof very soon

[hidden cobalt]

someone said i should get her to 160 for carry

well like a youtuber kinda said she carries to 160''

[outer gyro]

For the moment focus on raising levels, you're at about 50% of your opponents power which means its going to be nigh impossible to beat the stage

Belinda carries well into mid-game, focus on building what is known as the lightbearers team. You have belinda, lucius, and rosaline already. Try to get fawkes and rowan too

[hidden cobalt]

like i can get belinda l+ i think but ppl r saying i should wait for 6 copies of her

[outer gyro]

Don't sac your current heroes to get belinda to L+, only use fodder heroes

[mild geyser]

@quaint kiln

[round kraken]

Looking for someone who knows much about pvp

[quaint kiln]

It worked.Thanks

[mild geyser]

congrats!

[hidden cobalt]

who should i drop for belinda?

nvm i cant even get her l+ fml

WTFFFF mirel had legit 1 hp left i reckon she got ult off and i won i guess the game is luck based with crits and stuff

[twin jolt]

What should my core team be I'm at 6.4 campaign

[quaint bough]

@twin jolt i would use Saurus Brutus Tasi Thoran Eironn { focus on eironn hes really good!~!}

[sour pond]

Any tips? Ppl say i could push more

[raw niche]

Don't suppose you got a fix for this stage? Lmao this is pure cancer
Can use a Merc if really needed, just need to know which one

[lime quiver]

Maybe
Lyca

Eironn
Ferael
Rowan
Tasi

[warm swan]

@sour pond Rowan in position 1 instead of Fera. Fera's spirits trigger Tasi's tp a lot. I used Rowan, Tasi, Eironn, Daimon, Lyca in that stage. Ig Nara can sub for Eironn

[spring marsh]

What Should I Do To Improve Team In case I Can Do Anything?

[compact finch]

How did you do the "kill in 15 seconds" in misty valley?

[sour pond]

Tried your comp before too now im trying with ainz arthur rowan lyca albedo

[sour pond]

Oh wait thats the front line kill

[outer gyro]

Thoran's reanimation animation is about 5 seconds long, so you need to be able to nuke him to death in 5 seconds twice

Not many teams can do that

[pale kettle]

Any ideas how to beat them? What Heroes i should focus on to improve?

[sour pond]

With this

[dusky crypt]

should I replace lyca with daimon?

[mild geyser]

you would probably replace ezio tbh

[sour pond]

Yes thats right

[dusky crypt]

ok thanks

[outer gyro]

How I eat it

[austere coyote]

Are my heroes in the right slots?

[tulip tundra]

I think I’m stuck now

[compact finch]

I dont have Ezio and Joker

[warm swan]

@austere coyote I'm not sure about Shem. Belinda might be better given the faction bonus. You can try running that comp at slow speed and hit pause and retry if you see you are about to be wiped out by Wrizz.

[austere coyote]

Ohh it's not just for Wrizz, just in general, but thank you!

Also, what about the order they're in? Like slot 1,2,3,4,5

Also Shemira is my carry so there isn't much I can do there sadly

[warm swan]

Oh mb, I thought it was for Wrizz. If it's for early game, I would suggest using the usual fodder-tier heroes first, like Hogan and Mirael. If you got Wukong he could work also till 100ish. You might want to check out the pinned guide on #classic-questions

[austere coyote]

Thank you!

[manic jackal]

What should I pick?

[vast meadow]

Wukong and use Dim hero in the trial period. You can go 2 chapters using dim hero effectively during trial

[fiery zenith]

who should be the fifth hero in my lineup?

Wu Kong,Pippa,Rosaline and Silas is my currently lineup

But idk who should be the fifth?

[warm swan]

@fiery zenith Maybe Hogan. You need a tank

[frozen badger]

what do you say about this lineup? I'm currently on chapter 3

when joker will expire I'll use shemira

[past urchin]

That it wont get you far.

[fiery zenith]

@warm swan but Brutus? Is he much better than rogan in earlygame?

[frozen badger]

any suggestions?

[past urchin]

Read the pins in #classic-questions :)

[fiery zenith]

@frozen badger be sure u change ur wishlist

[warm swan]

@fiery zenith I don't see Brutus though, or am I blind, sorry. But yeah he could work later on when you have unlocked his Last Gasp skill

[fiery zenith]

@warm swan u dont see him in that picture cause I just got him 1 min ago

[past urchin]

Id swap Rosa out.
She mostly works with AOE nukers.
Besides after your Wukong ults hes no longer on the battlefield and she will go after another hero which may possibly be useless.

[fiery zenith]

Ok thanks for advice

@past urchin what hero to put instead of her?

[past urchin]

What do you have at your disposal?
Sorry.That discord implement there covers half the screen ;)

[vapid iris]

Ascending hero’s... Thoran or Torne?

[vast meadow]

Thoran is a really good character

[marsh nymph]

Help pls, mercs allowed

[sour pond]

Still in need of help countless retries with many comps

Ok did it now wtf

[fiery zenith]

Nice lol

I dont understand how

[fossil solar]

Anyone here good with pvp? I need help building my 3 teams

[tulip tundra]

I’m stuck on that too hahahah

[marsh nymph]

Lol ik the ezizhs are rlly annoying

[vast meadow]

Safia Eironn, Gwyn LB, and Daimon GB comps. Grez is garbage in PvP

[shy anchor]

any ideas? i'm being hard stuck on this stage

[sour pond]

Switch skriath with tasi could work wonders

Maybe switch safiya with daimon also if you have him

[sour pond]

And pls swap rowan with lyca. Your eiron and safiya dont get rowans pots

If your comp still dont seem to work swap safiya with eironn or daimon

[shy anchor]

my daimon is only at E+ lol

[sour pond]

Then dont usw him

Did you try what i said already

[shy anchor]

already

actually the one with tasi was what i did from the beginning

[sour pond]

It still has better chances to win i think but im no expert - is your chicken ascended?

[shy anchor]

ye. he's also 3/9

[sour pond]

Hmm ok

[shy anchor]

thank for the help though

[sour pond]

Ur welcome - but sometimes you just need the rng favor to win a stage

[shy anchor]

yeah i saw people went pass the stage with much lower attack power by using daimon. kinda annoy me a bit tbh

[sour pond]

Choose the comp with the best results and retry several times

[brave oriole]

@shy anchor you lose cuz of the wrong pull

[sour pond]

Yea get him ascended asap - use your hero choice pulls for daimon

[marsh nymph]

if ur still stuck on that stage, u can use this as a reference. Idk if the merc ferael on mine made a big diff, but u can try with ur A one.

[pale kettle]

Help

[brave oriole]

Try fawkes for a sec, instead of Silas @pale kettle

[misty flume]

What do y'all think I'd the optimal line up for me rn

[pale kettle]

@brave oriole tried it he dies instantly

He coffins shemira then isabella 1 shots hum

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle huh, Isa?
Try Brutus with fawks back, upside, rowan middle, shem Rosa back down

[orchid delta]

Any help on this one?I also have Ainz,just not linked yet

[cinder pollen]

I’m getting stuck hard, any help with a good line up would be super helpful!

[past urchin]

Do you uave Brutus @orchid delta ?
Any Brutus.Even E

[pale kettle]

@brave oriole that did not work xD

[orchid delta]

nope

[past urchin]

You actually do.

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle swap Rosa and rowan

[orchid delta]

oh,wait,I totally didn't see him xD

[past urchin]

Id put him under the crystal.
And try like this.
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Daimon
Rowan

Silvina kills Tasi and goes for invincible Brutus.
Meanwhile Nemora charms something and Daimon gets to ramp up.
No Rowan mid.
You dont want his potions wasted on what is dead anyway
@orchid delta

[orchid delta]

ok,thanks,I'll try!

[modest basin]

Hey guys, hope y’all are doing well! I recently started my account and im wondering where i should go from here since i think i hit a plateau.. i was using atandra as my carry because she can sustain, but before i mythic someone i am wondering who i shoul focus on to be my carry(i can always reset my antandra to put the ressources on someone else). I know it depends on the copies i have but on who i have currently who should i put as a carry right now? Thank you 🙂

[pale kettle]

@modest basin a good early game carrier is shemira!

[vocal kettle]

Hali-gali.
Any suggestions? Silvana kills my shemira.

[granite kraken]

Been stuck for a while, any advice?

[final star]

you should ascend 😓

[modern surge]

Need some help rn, im giga stuck
Should i level my other heroes or can i beat this with what i have?

[past urchin]

Bait her with another mage @vocal kettle Swap Saurus for that mage and Cecilia for Brutus.She is 200 free energy against Vurk poison and vs an overleveled Grez

[granite kraken]

i dont want to ascend daimon cuz I only have 3 copy, but do I foddle ardon to L+ tasi?

[final star]

no arden is usable for root

[past urchin]

I wouldnt do that.
Build Arden instead.He is decent and becomes even better at 141 @granite kraken

[granite kraken]

Yeah so I dont have anyone to ascend?

[final star]

ascend mirael, read pinned in #classic-questions

[sour pond]

Any ideas? Tried eironn safiya and eironn daimon and ainz-comp with many positions

[final star]

lyca should get hooked, arthur always in front of ainz

[sour pond]

Yea as i said its just random positioning i already tried with arthur in front of ainz and lyca getting hooked

[haughty furnace]

Need help

[granite kraken]

yeah I did she‘s not ascended cuz I m using hogan as tank...ig I just wait for now, thx

[amber fable]

Stuck on the last stage of chapter 10

[haughty furnace]

Don’t make Mireal L

[granite kraken]

Why not?

[haughty furnace]

Never make L without u knowing u can make them L+

[subtle inlet]

The new event lineup ?

@haughty furnace isn't mireal fodder ? I don't think it matters that much.

[haughty furnace]

She is but if u use her don’t make her L never make anyone L without knowing u can make them a L+

[pale kettle]

7 36

who should i use

[pale monolith]

Safyia, Belinda, Brutus, Lucius, Lyca

[pale kettle]

in that order??

[pale monolith]

...

Brutus, Lucius front

[pale kettle]

ty ty

[pale monolith]

Np

[lyric kiln]

Guyss i know this is not for lineup help but can you say me how to do Divine Realm?

[trim dawn]

I feel like my team comp could be better but I'm not sure. Any suggestions?

[lyric kiln]

I feel like u are better than me 100 x times

[vocal kettle]

Too weak my team. 😩

[trim dawn]

😅 Honestly I just fudge my comps

Also any suggestions for PVE cause I don't feel like I do well there

[low apex]

im still stuck here if anyone has suggestions, i may try to replace nara with an athalia

[lyric kiln]

WHAT THE **** 24090 KKKKK WHAT THE

[low apex]

https://www.afkarena.net/the-divine-realm

[lyric kiln]

Thank you!

[fossil mural]

22-60 Thane is ulting and wiping my team, and athalia is a pain

[pale kettle]

Who should I use for heroes of esperia?

[open breach]

what would be the best team comp for me, im stuck since few days and cant seem to progress. tryin to build a team that would help me. looking mainly for tower/campaign.

[frail panther]

Stuck on 8-40 , any tips?

[cursive lodge]

ur account is decent, though u dont have any hard carrier but Lucius-Tasi-Belinda-Rowan-Rosaline is quite good at early game, then invest more on Saurus-Tasi-Lyca-Eironn-Rowan(Daimon OP too) , and the most important, as i said, watch videos of some youtuber like Volkin or Linker to explore more about the game

[ocean pawn]

please advise.. new antandra skills make thoran cheese against her impossible with that 60% energy reduction

[toxic flame]

@frail panther not necessarily for that stage but in general making heroes L before you can make them L+ is a very bad idea. 140 lvl cap is gonna hit u like a truck.

[ocean pawn]

not as major early on cause u get exp walled fast

i legendaried my carry on alts without being able to l+ just to increase overlevel

[toxic flame]

It is extremely likely he will reach 140 cap before getting all the heroes he needs

[ocean pawn]

true

[toxic flame]

If you know what ur doing, its ok to L your carry, just one hero, and hope to pull enough copies

[ocean pawn]

my 3 day old alt got stupid lucky and already has an l+ saurus and 1 from l+ eironn with almost enough food to mythic one

[toxic flame]

I did that on my alt and it paid off, got 2 more daimon copies the next day. Not everyone is that lucky lmao

[low apex]

nobody that asks for beginner lineup help in this discord "knows what they're doing"

[ocean pawn]

lucky is 3 talenes from summons before even unlocking guaranted first stargazer

[toxic flame]

This is my point

[ocean pawn]

before chap 14

any ideas for my battle though?

[bleak rain]

I summon your wisdom, best comp I’ve found is this one but it seems complicated, any suggestion ?
Thanks for your time

[toxic flame]

I always tell any new player to not make any L heroes if they cant get it to L+.

[low apex]

i go a step further and say dont make any L heroes unless you have 8 copies of them

[ocean pawn]

do u have gorvo tony? or any super tank

[low apex]

except for fodder heroes they can go L and L+ anytime

[bleak rain]

No, but I can make him L+ @ocean pawn

[ocean pawn]

nvm

[toxic flame]

Looks like that one was a thoran cheese for me @bleak rain

[ocean pawn]

what is thorans SI at

[bleak rain]

+10

[ocean pawn]

lol was boutta say that exact team

[toxic flame]

Mine wasnt +30 either so ur probably chillin @bleak rain

[ocean pawn]

thoran is best with +30 imo

[low apex]

is there anyone who isn't best when you max their SI? like are weaker if they are +30 ?

[bleak rain]

Yeah but I’m working on Albedo +30 first :X

[ocean pawn]

u can merc mine i have 1 friend slot and thoran free ...or not hes not free lol

[toxic flame]

No but thoran in particular gets a huge boost at +30 @low apex

[ocean pawn]

yeah the two unkillable ults

unlock is nice, +10 20 meh for hp boost +30 busted

[toxic flame]

@bleak rain check out my screenshot. I did that stage with a +20 thoran. U should be fine with +10

[bleak rain]

Gonna give a shot to Thoran 🤔

[ocean pawn]

give him call

[low apex]

anyone have a screenshot for 29-54? been stuck over 1000+ retries with various teams

[bleak rain]

Afraid of him dying quickly since I’m only 290

[ocean pawn]

that way he gets energy first to grab rowans energo pot

athalia apparently negates the mehira spawning bats

and shes the only real threat there

[errant wing]

Going super slow any team updates or should i keep this?

[toxic flame]

This is what I did @AM

[ocean pawn]

do you just screenshot everything? lol

[toxic flame]

@ocean pawn yes I do

[low apex]

i think my safiya is weak, ill try to merc a good one

[toxic flame]

I have a folder @ocean pawn

[ocean pawn]

where u at in grave tower? i need a formation with new antandra rework for 387 grave...New antandra skill makes thoran really hard there

[toxic flame]

I dont think im there yet @ocean pawn

[ocean pawn]

i had a decent run with nara doing 5v1 where she died to khasos but havent been able to repeat

[toxic flame]

I would probably use fera but mine is 9/9 @ocean pawn

[ocean pawn]

can i borrow?

[toxic flame]

Uhhh lemme check if he is available

[ocean pawn]

mines 6/9

[toxic flame]

He is merced out rn. Reset is soonish tho @ocean pawn

[ocean pawn]

ok ill keep trying with this team since it had a close loss b4, maybe i just need rng for nara to live

is nara free and/or at +30?

+30 may be huge help

[toxic flame]

My nara is worse than urs

[ocean pawn]

im borrowing one lol. +20 3/3

[toxic flame]

Oh

[ocean pawn]

but i know that +30 removes the execute threshold
u can see it lol says someone elses name

[toxic flame]

Ur account is actually more advanced than mine tbh lol. Im only 356

[ocean pawn]

lol

time to run the macro i guess
try and get the rng

[brave oriole]

I guess that you need a 3/3 thoran

[ocean pawn]

i forget what 3/3 on him does

[brave oriole]

Pulls the enemies closer when he revives

[ocean pawn]

ah. wont help me here i think: A i need this merc nara, B hp isnt the issue its energy gain and that khasos giving antandra tidus and numisu so much healing from life leech
theyre already all stacked within his range when he ults

[manic mica]

Stuck at 8-20. Can anyone please help me build team with this so I can go like 15-1 with those heros?

[brave oriole]

It worked better for me with oden instead of daimon, and Kelthur on khasos

[ocean pawn]

really

[brave oriole]

Kind of

[ocean pawn]

where was izold

so this?

[brave oriole]

Front down

Yeah this one

[ocean pawn]

i can merc a 9/9 thoran

O.O 9/9 may help

[sly forge]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=54

[low apex]

nice website ty

[sour pond]

What are those macros you all are talkin about

[sly forge]

Thanks. Hope some of the suggestions there can be helpful 😄

[ocean pawn]

part of an emulator, bluestacks has a built in macro. basically i record clicks and just have it repeat i can make it retry a battle for me infinitely till i stop it

or win

[sly forge]

Is Lilith actually okay with people doing that? As it can be considered botting.

[ocean pawn]

idk lol. i legit only do it for retries

[toxic flame]

I have not heard if anyone getting banned for it but there is always a risk

[ocean pawn]

because other wise id have to sit and try it like 500x manually for hours and hours on end

[sly forge]

I guess since it's being discussed openly on their Discord server and they themselves haven't said anything, I must assume that they are alright with it 😛

[sour pond]

I wouldnt risk using it for minimal results and maybe losing the acc

[ocean pawn]

i only use it when im trying to beat a wall

liek 34-8-1 was so hard and annoying

[sour pond]

Can lilith even see people who use it? Like is it provable that sb used it?

[low apex]

the bluestacks macro just repeats human clicks so its impossible to detect i think, but ya it's technically cheating

[toxic flame]

Unless Lilith has it in there terms that it isnt allowed I think the risk is minimal

[ocean pawn]

and i read those and i didnt see it mentioned lol

[low apex]

bluestakcs macro literally lets you record clicks for x amount of time, and then you just turn the macro on and it repeats all the clicks you just did

[ocean pawn]

^exactly

[toxic flame]

That would actually be really easy to detect, assuming there is some kind of record of clicks @low apex

[bleak rain]

I did it ! Thanks for the help !

[toxic flame]

Because no human would ever have a perfect loop of the exact same clicks for hours. If that were to be detected its an obvious sign of a bot @low apex

@bleak rain gzz

[ocean pawn]

theres not i believe because bluestacks would A: have to give them permission to see their data, B, theyd have to know the account for the particular instance of bluestacks..also ark, i could do the exact same clicks for hours i would just be BORED AF

[low apex]

you think the app keeps a record of our clicks?

[ocean pawn]

they dont

[low apex]

It's easy to detect but impossible because it would be a huge violation of privacy law to record user clicks lol

[ocean pawn]

bluestacks anyways

[ocean pawn]

yup

[toxic flame]

Im not condemning macros at all. In this game I dont rly have a problem with it. I just always think there is a risk.

[low apex]

section 16 of the terms and conditions explicitly disallows macros though. like full out says you can't use them

[ocean pawn]

really?

[low apex]

it says you can't use "third party software designed to gain an advantage, perceived or actual, over other Members". So using a macro is literally under that definition

[proper glade]

Can this be described as gaining advantages?

[low apex]

but again, it's physically impossible for them to detect the bluestacks macro

Gaining campaign progress without actually being present? it fits under the "perceived or actual" umbrella yes

[toxic flame]

@proper glade perceived or actual it says. Macros easily give a percieved advantage at least.

[proper glade]

But over other members?

[low apex]

its a blanket ban on third party software of any kind

[proper glade]

Well yea

[low apex]

yes gaining campaign gives you more advantage because you progress faster and therefore get stronger and beat other members in pvp

[ocean pawn]

i never did it till i started spending 2 hours+ retrying a single part of a multi boss

[low apex]

all that being said, 0.1% chance liltih will catch your bluestack macro so you're probably safe

[ocean pawn]

i rarely do it

[cinder pollen]

Pretty new player, any help with team setup would be awesome! Thanks and cheers in advance.

Currently running:
Wukong
Rowan
Rosalind
Hogan
Tasi

[proper glade]

Maybe use the integza bot to click lmao

[ocean pawn]

take out hogan for gwyneth or lorsan

[ocean pawn]

put wukong rowan front rosalin gwyneth tasi back

try and get gwyneth to be stronger than anyone else so rosaline follows for the ult spam

wukong is a decent follow too ig

[cinder pollen]

Thanks! I’ll use this advice and save that guide!

[ocean pawn]

im just partial to gwyn cause she is absolutely insane late game

[barren lintel]

Any tips this is my main acount and I’m getting smoked at 11-12 Every one dies then saveus gets destroyed

[ocean pawn]

screenshot ur heroes. kinda helps for people who would help

[ocean pawn]

use brutus lucius front. then belinda gwyneth cecilia

gwyneth back middle cecilia back bottom brutus front top lucius bottom

[low apex]

You telling him to get rid of his lvl 160 saveas lol?

[ocean pawn]

yes lol

[low apex]

he needs to reset it then, not gonna beat the stage with lvl 120 heroes

[ocean pawn]

imo Never level up fodder if u have 5+ elite tiers

[low apex]

max lvl of e+ is only 120

[ocean pawn]

reset saveas and pump the fodder ppl up to 130 as well as brutus

[barren lintel]

Ok

[low apex]

you're too high level to remember the struggles of low lvl lol

[ocean pawn]

false. i have 3 alts around there lol

so i still know how rough it can be

[low apex]

you're telling him to get rid of his 40 overleveled hero to use a team of 5 lvl 120s? he's gonna just lose again

[ocean pawn]

no he wont. because he can reset saveas and level everyone up higher

[low apex]

ogi is the clear problem in that comp i think, can't have the carry directly across from saveas

he can't... max lvl of e+ is 120!!

[ocean pawn]

he can level up the other fodders, mirael arden, silvina and brutus

[ocean pawn]

to increase crystal

[low apex]

his real problem is running 4 carries and 1 tank

[ocean pawn]

why arent u using belinda? brutus estrilds front, tasi belinda rowan back.. ez

[vernal garnet]

She doesnt do any dmg

[ocean pawn]

how? she has advantage! Put her behind brutus

[narrow lark]

Backline her then and run call

[low apex]

give her some gear she has faction advantage

[ocean pawn]

exactly

[errant wing]

Progress is going extremely slow any tips? Cant make any legendary+ yet to boost lvls

[low apex]

hogan should not be your carry

[narrow lark]

^

[errant wing]

I know but i cant make any other legend+

[ocean pawn]

^

[errant wing]

To have the +30

[ocean pawn]

that sucks. have u used all the codes in #classic-updates ?

[narrow lark]

Reset Hogan and feed Saveas then

[errant wing]

Yeah :(

[ocean pawn]

ouch. that luck sucks

[ocean pawn]

feed the two silvinas to daimon and get him to 140

[errant wing]

Saveas is legend not + was a mistake xp

Is 140 good?

[pulsar crest]

any suggestions? silvina jumps at rowan and nemora charms ferael. ainz ults once and barely takes 30% of the enemies' hp, feels like I'm very far from a shot at winning this one

[narrow lark]

He'll do more damage then Hogan will

[ocean pawn]

its levels and daimon is a SICK carry. also feed the two ardens to eironn and level him up

[errant wing]

I can make tons of legends not legend+ thats why im stucl xp

[ocean pawn]

get daimon and eironn to 140 and you will have much better luck

[proud edge]

I'm so stumped here, any ideas?

[narrow lark]

Try using Lyca instead of Albedo. And if Ainz dies quickly, try running grace on him. I went through 23 pretty fast with grace Ainz

[ocean pawn]

both are carries, then have tank and healing in there. try daimon eironn nemoa brutus izold front

get eironn and daimon to L and level them up

both of them will do easily 3 or 4x the damage hogan does individually if not more than that..esp since daimons damage scales with enemy strength

arthur lucius front, belinda rowan rosaline @proud edge

Belinda
Arthur
Rowan
Lucius
Rosaline

if that doesnt work flip them, lucius and arthur swap and belinda bottom behind arthur

i know for sure though i beat that with belinda spam. make sure belinda is strongest so rosa follows

[proud edge]

@ocean pawn that does way worse than my wilder team, instant wipe any way I try it

[ocean pawn]

hows ur fawkes look?

rip, you can borrow mine. i beat that with lucius, rosaline fawkes rowan belinda

[proud edge]

only L+ and one mythic piece

[errant wing]

@ocean pawn so getting a legendary in carries is ok instead of +

[proud edge]

I put in a request for a friend 5 star fawkes but hasnt come through yet

[ocean pawn]

if you have the horrid luck as u seem to have had, yes

[fossil mural]

halp plz, final boss of this map, athalia is a pain and thane keeps wiping me w ult

[errant wing]

Tons of e+ and e combos xp

[ocean pawn]

i beat that with eironn daimon rip

[ocean pawn]

yeah so get daimon and eironn to L and watch the magic

i missed the shemira can u make one more elite niru?

[pulsar crest]

still not quite there, ainz only ulting once

[fossil mural]

Daimons L+ rn

[ocean pawn]

oof

have u already used all ur mercs?

[fossil mural]

yeah ;3;

And i have eironn M rn

[pulsar crest]

I also tried lyca instead of albedo but things do downhill way too fast there

[ocean pawn]

@pulsar crest screenshot everyone of ur heroes please

and have u used all mercs

[pulsar crest]

yeah have used all the mercs unfortunately

[ocean pawn]

ouch

who is albedo linked to?

[pulsar crest]

safiya

[ocean pawn]

damn

horrible evil mean nasty question.. do u have 200 diamonds to waste?

[pulsar crest]

not right now but reset isn't that far, what would you suggest me doing?

[fickle loom]

why bother, it's fine for now.

[ocean pawn]

unbond both ainz and albedo, then rebind ainz to safiya and albedo to lyca then you have two huge damage mages free

[pulsar crest]

and actually use belinda?

[ocean pawn]

really sucks your rowan only e+

hey dont knock her, she was my carry from chap 23 onward on main lol
belinda spam is fun

[fickle loom]

lyca in the same comp is far better than another damage imo

[pulsar crest]

yeah I think stuff would be way smoother if I could get rowan to M (still one more copy to go), especially since I have emblems saved up to get close to +30

[ocean pawn]

put silas back middle, albedo top front ainz behind, brutus front bottom belinda behind

[fickle loom]

unless you actually mean using albedo and ainz in two separate comps which is confusing

[ocean pawn]

i mean free up belinda because her one skill will also make ainz do more damage

[fickle loom]

who does tasi banish

[pulsar crest]

ferael
and sometimes vedan actually

[ocean pawn]

i beat that with eironn on my alt but my alts eironn had talene daimon silas support

with a brutus for tanking

[fickle loom]

does ainz live in lyca's spot

[pulsar crest]

let me try ainz in front of vedan. I tried against grezhul but he reduces ainz' damage and his ult barely scratches the enemies

[fickle loom]

i don't know what you've tried but i'll put my thought process out, feel free to experiment or ignore:

• trying to put rowan into a corner so front ainz and middle back tasi are the only ones that benefit from cart
• albedo and lyca can go wherever
• since rowan will likely die quick, no reason to keep him in a good spot

[barren lintel]

@ocean pawn

[ocean pawn]

damn

[barren lintel]

Any tips on gear better gear

Getting

[ocean pawn]

time

[barren lintel]

welp time to. Afk for a few weeks

Cause my maxed purple gear is ass

[fickle loom]

...you shouldn't need to afk for weeks while using purple gear. actually, gear should not be the thing that's blocking you at all.

[pulsar crest]

I'll give it a few more tries and see if tasi manages to ult

dammit I'd kill to get another rowan copy and actually be able to ult consistently

[ocean pawn]

that sucks

[fickle loom]

doesn't look that great but that's what i'm thinking, yeah. these stages are never easy though, plus it's not too surprising ainz has a harder time compared to like, wilders against graveborns.

[ocean pawn]

if u hadnt used all mercs id loan u my +30 3/3 rowan

[raw niche]

Still stuck...

[meager token]

Hello, any ideas please