lineup-help

[brave oriole]

@pallid nymph rosaline would be good to follow Saurus, talene also to tank saveas on start

[pallid nymph]

should i go rosaline L+ then? or just stay at E+

[brave oriole]

I would not, bcs then, on silvina stage, rowan would die, so Rosa would save him,if she's lower ascension

[pallid nymph]

ah thats smart ty

rosaline dies when estrilda charges 😢

[brave oriole]

Try Saurus back of Rosa

Keep lyca back of talene, not nemora

[pallid nymph]

like this?

[brave oriole]

Yeah

[pallid nymph]

it gets pretty close but talene dies in 1 or 2 shots and they kill all supports so saurus is 1v5

[brave oriole]

Mhm, swap Saurus with rowan, I'm curious if Saurus goes down

[pallid nymph]

he goes up but its really close i think with RNG i will win

[brave oriole]

If he goes up, then swap lyca with rowan

Try
Rowan
Talene
Saurus
Lyca
Rosa

[pallid nymph]

wow i just won ty you are like the sun tzu of afk arena

[brave oriole]

😢 np

Try to get a tank anyway for a strong Frontline, I would go for Lucius

[pallid nymph]

yea i wanted a good lucius but i only have him at E

i think i might just grind until lvl 160 then switch to shemira carry because i have her L+ already

[brave oriole]

Yeah I saw, she can work even from now, if you have some good gear

[pallid nymph]

i have tried her before but saurus alway seems better and i heard she gets really strong at lvl 161

[brave oriole]

Yeah, but i always used shem from start, and worked well. But, I had an Lucius also

[pallid nymph]

i think if i get a good tank or some really good gear i will switch but for now i stay with saurus

[valid coral]

Any tips to the Kill 3 backline first challenge in Misty valley?

[brave oriole]

Yeah, should work for a while @pallid nymph, deppends how fat you are getting Saurus mythic

[pallid nymph]

yea i need more wilder fodder and 1 saurus then i can get him to M+

i have barely any wilder fodder 😢 so it might take a while

[brave oriole]

@valid coral a strong Gwyneth merc

@pallid nymph no worries, it's time until you hit the 140 with the rest of your team

[pallid nymph]

i need some more L+ to get 140 because my team E+ cap at 120 now

[valid coral]

I have a decent Gwyn. Will try it out. Thanks!

[brave oriole]

@valid coral you have to cc eironn, to cancel the pull, Lucius with call would make it

[pallid nymph]

i hate saveas so much i thought i would win 11-33, it was only saveas left and he just heals through all the damage and i run out of time 😢

[lyric kiln]

Guys i need help im stuck at Stage 12-34, Shemira and Rosaline dies too fast

[brave oriole]

@lyric kiln make shem max lvl

[lyric kiln]

I dont have magic dust for that 🤓

[brave oriole]

@lyric kiln be magic, and reset ulmus to 140

[lyric kiln]

Ahaa thanks

[mortal dew]

If anyone got a suggestion I try use brutus to tank athalia but tasi then puts my team to sleep

[lyric kiln]

Big brain 🤣 imma try

[pallid nymph]

u know it is hard when you have to reset a hero to win

[brave oriole]

@mortal dew you should not have troubles yet, use your daimon.
Lucius
Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon

@lyric kiln don't push on Lucius lvl before of shemira. Max shem then lvl Lucius

[mortal dew]

ye i think i tried that already but i lost again

[lyric kiln]

Ok

[mortal dew]

Athalia just takes out my rowan then ults

[brave oriole]

Deppends of artifacts, @mortal dew daimon need call, rowan chalice etc

[lyric kiln]

I reset Ulmus but i still dont have hero's essence

[mortal dew]

even with the artifacts the team loses

[brave oriole]

@lyric kiln this its no possible, you need to lvl ulmus to 140,its not about dust

[lyric kiln]

Yeah i know i leveled him to lvl 140 but i dont have dust

[brave oriole]

How it was 160 then?

You had dust for him, should have for shem

[pallid nymph]

did u get scammed by the rickety cart? 😢

[lyric kiln]

WTF

[brave oriole]

Nah, he didn't

[mortal dew]

he must of reused the dust to level him back to 140

then the dust from 140-160 is all that is left

[brave oriole]

Still, the 141 dust should have be there

That's what he needs for shem

[pallid nymph]

his shem was only 140 at the start so he wont have the dust

[lyric kiln]

Yeah cart scammed me

[brave oriole]

Ulmus it was 160

[mortal dew]

you seem fine

[pallid nymph]

yea ulmas was 160, shem was 140. now shem is 160 and ulmus 140

[brave oriole]

Yeah lol

[past urchin]

Feed a Rowan to her @mortal dew
And put Brutus wherever she runs next.
Your Rowan wont ult anyway but the cart will last for a bit.

[lyric kiln]

Yeah bcs he says i need to may shem

Max*

[brave oriole]

Max possible

[pallid nymph]

yea its fine u didnt have the dust before nothing changed u just swapped the lvls with ulmus and shem

[brave oriole]

If you want more dust, reset Lucius to 160

[lyric kiln]

Ahaa xd im very stupid

[brave oriole]

Then you can lvl shem more

[lyric kiln]

Bruh yeah u are very big brain

[pallid nymph]

hahahaha

[brave oriole]

I have short hair, it helps 😢

[pallid nymph]

im getting stuck on normal levels now, not even bosses hahaha

[lyric kiln]

Yeah i do that now shem is 161 lvl should i lvl she more or wait dust for ulmus and lucius?

[mortal dew]

level her to 180

[brave oriole]

You should just lvl shem from now, yeah

[mortal dew]

man i still can't beat this stage

the athalia ult destroys me

[brave oriole]

@mortal dew Bradley, your rowan or Rosa can easy tank athalia, try
Rowan
Shem
Rosa
Lucius
Safiya or ferael lyca

[mortal dew]

i got it done by moving that formation around thanks

[pallid nymph]

this is so annoying. mirael ults and kills my entire team, the 2 tanks take too long to die 😡 😢

[raw rune]

if you're gonna use talene, put her frontline, never backline @pallid nymph

[brave oriole]

@pallid nymph try
Nara
Saurus
Rowan
Talene
Rosa

[pallid nymph]

i put lyca frontline because she dies fast anyway and this way she at least tanks a bit

[brave oriole]

Even if she dies, she still heals, that's the point of suiciding talene

[raw rune]

put rosa backline instead if you want lyca frontline

[pallid nymph]

their tanks take too long to kill so nara doesnt do anything 😢

[brave oriole]

She's pulling mirael close to Saurus

[lyric kiln]

@brave oriole Thank you soo much im Stage 13 now

[brave oriole]

Np@lyric kiln

[pallid nymph]

but saurus doesnt kill estrilda fast because he gets knocked back and not enough damage

[brave oriole]

Mhm, she dies hard, but check the combat log who's doing much dps

I think its the middle mage

[raw rune]

I know I'll most likely beat this after i get past 180 dust wall, but is there any way i can do this now? raine is really annoying for ainz, breaks his shield and slows, and thane is an annoyance with his crits and arden is annoying because daimon and ainz both get interrupted

[pallid nymph]

mirael is almost as annoying as saveas

[raw rune]

saveas you use brutus for, mirael is very annoying if you don't banish/coffin her yes

[pallid nymph]

i dont have brutus or fawkes 😢

[raw rune]

tasi banishes

[brave oriole]

@raw rune mhm, I dunno what to say, ferael can be used here and Saurus,
Something like,
Ferael
Saurus
Rowan
Rosa
Ainz

[pallid nymph]

yea true i also tried nemora charm but it doesnt work

[raw rune]

ferael is very useless at this point, need him at least 201 @brave oriole i've tried him on earlier stages

[brave oriole]

He's not useless, but well,

[raw rune]

i'll try it but i don't think it will work

[brave oriole]

Brutus it's a waste there, he doesn't help much, talene would be better to use

[pallid nymph]

I can get mirael really low but then she uses the flame shield and tanks then ults and kills everyone

and the flame shield damage kill saurus

[raw rune]

brutus stalls thane, talene is really not useful anymore

[brave oriole]

@pallid nymph yeah mirael stages are weird, but she's top, try to clear bottom side so her aoe won't hit you

[pallid nymph]

whoever is low health gets the flame shield and it kills anyone I put near them

[brave oriole]

@raw rune have tried Rosa front of ainz down? Not sure if she will survive, but if she does, Thane insta dies

[raw rune]

if you mean like this then it failed

[brave oriole]

With lyca instead of ferael, for haste

[pallid nymph]

should I try tasi to banish?

[raw rune]

yes

[brave oriole]

It won't never mirael

[raw rune]

mirael is usually the one banished in stages

[brave oriole]

It will be the middle mage I guess

[pallid nymph]

it banishes her but she just comes back, uses flame shield and kills everything

[dull trellis]

Any help? What heroes/level?

[brave oriole]

@raw rune your ainz get banish?

[raw rune]

nope immune to cc, but raine breaks shield and slows

[brave oriole]

@raw rune can albedo hold Thane? Albedo need si+ for giving more def

[pallid nymph]

ok tasi doesn't work 😢

[raw rune]

First time he ulted but it didn't do much and albedo died quickly

[brave oriole]

@raw rune can use talene instead of Saurus?

[raw rune]

maybe might work

[brave oriole]

What's your artifacts atm?

[raw rune]

call ainz rowan lyca grace talene drape albedo chalice

[brave oriole]

Mh, put call on rowan, eye ainz, drape albedo, lyca talene nvm

[raw rune]

?? why do i want eye on ainz

[brave oriole]

For crits and pr and faster attack speed

If rowan do fast the ultimate will stun Thane and dead

I have e never used call on ainz, he looks like he's charging faster the energy with eye

The more calls you use the lower effect it have, lower mspd etc

[raw rune]

eye is not a good artifact for him

[brave oriole]

It is now, bcs you are lacking crit

Later may be the new mage artifact, but i would not use call still

If you want a fast energy, swap with rowan

[raw rune]

eye works way worse than call, call is by far the better artifact, having 2 calls outweighs having one, only once you get over 3 does it become a problem

[brave oriole]

Well, up to you, but swap with rowan

[amber halo]

Well this is no easy task..

[brave oriole]

@amber halo have you tried ainz vs athalia? He should hold from a few tries

Maybe replace fawkes with rosaline or lyca/safiya

[amber halo]

Ainz get 1 shot 1812k

[brave oriole]

Try again

Athalia won't crit always

@amber halo but, Lucius would help you more being 240,maybe reset something for Lucius

[raw rune]

Rowan ult is so op I just won

[brave oriole]

Nice 👍

[amber halo]

900k still 1 shot him. I won't reset dmg dealer ainz and albedo is 10 times stronger than lucius

[brave oriole]

@amber halo I didn't meant ainz, but the others 220,can be just fine at 200,you need Lucius for a strong Frontline, so up to you

Albedo is there mostly for buffing ainz with his SI

[nocturne furnace]

Any recommendations for these lineups or nah?

[brave oriole]

@amber halo trust me, if you make Lucius 240, it would be much diff, Lucius with dura's call insta shield

[amber halo]

Tasi instead of fawkes did the trick after retries tho ty anw

The reason they are 220 is for champion arena

[brave oriole]

Well, i dont care much about pvp, but if you do, it's fine then

[pallid nymph]

this strat is the closest i can get (its not close at all)

[amber halo]

I don't it's for tokens only, so kinda care a little bit about ir

So u think Lucius 240 better than rowan??? But yeah now I'll just wait

[brave oriole]

@amber halo it's important that your front line to hold enough, Lucius shield it's pretty strong

The Backline can be lower lvl at all, just for support

[supple hemlock]

Hello guys, just wanted to get your advice as im absolutely clueless on what hero to level up and ascend or what to do to progress further. I'm always stuck on full graveborn comps in campaign with farael/shemira. I have lucius ascended +20, a lot of shemira copies. Should i focus on ascending shemira next and start using her as main carry or do that with belinda instead? Or should i prioritize rowan to m+ first?

[brave oriole]

@pallid nymph do you have any hypogean?

[pallid nymph]

no 😢

[brave oriole]

@supple hemlock yeah get shem a, and lvl as much you can

[supple hemlock]

Is that better than doing the belinda?

[brave oriole]

@supple hemlock ofc, Belinda is bad, rather ascend rowan

[supple hemlock]

The graveborn comps are legit giving me hell, even with tasi its a no go i still get melted and get stuck for 2 weeks even if its not a boss stahe

[brave oriole]

Shemira self sustain a lot, with Lucius ascended too, they both would Hold easy the front line

After shemira, you go for daimon, and from wilder work on eironn lyca Saurus already.

Brutus wasn't great ascension, not needed at all, but work on Safiya now

[pallid nymph]

is it worth switching to shemira carry now? saurus seems useless recently

[brave oriole]

@pallid nymph shemira with rowan rosaline works very well

But its about gear also, it makes a diff

[supple hemlock]

Yeah the only thing is, i only had brutus copies, and he helped me meatshield through a lot, even now i dont have copies of anything besides brutus to ascend

[pallid nymph]

and graveborn have advantage vs lightbearers so maybe mirael will die 😄

is there a way i can show what gear i have?

[brave oriole]

@supple hemlock I understand, but ppls usually keep elite + the copies for ascending something else before

[faint current]

Saurus and Shemira are both bad pre-161. Once you get Mythic Saurus, his +30 sig is one of the highest priority ones, and unlike Shemira he scales well into late/end game.

[brave oriole]

Brutus it's kinda the same elite +or a, for Camping, but for now he may help you

[pallid nymph]

yea but i have no good carry to 160 so im desperate hahaha

[faint current]

You did not ascend Mirael?

[pallid nymph]

i have saveas but no other maulers

[brave oriole]

Shemira is better than Saurus, with rosaline and rowan

[pallid nymph]

i need 1 more mirael E to ascend

[faint current]

Pre-161 even Mirael is better than Shemira

[brave oriole]

But i ve always saved guild coins until chap 12,so I could buy m gear for shem

[faint current]

So if you can build Mirael very soon then that may save you a whole lot of trouble.

[pallid nymph]

i cant get summons without beating stages tho so i cant get mirael

[brave oriole]

Mirael is complicated, you need a Frontline, you can't keep rowan middle etc

[pallid nymph]

• i have no good tanks

[brave oriole]

While shemira can hold the Frontline easier

But well, up to you, I'm for shemira 100%

Just having m gear after chap 12 it's a big thing

[faint current]

The community consensus is that Shemira isn't worth building anymore in 2021, she's been taken off of the only credible beginner guides I've seen.

[brave oriole]

That's bcs of daimon, not mirael

[pallid nymph]

yea i didnt buy her from lab, i just got so many copies from faction summons when i tried to get daimon

[brave oriole]

Guides are more for building daimon

[pallid nymph]

i have 0 daimon 😢

[faint current]

Even the pre-daimon guides I see don't suggest Shemira pre-161

[brave oriole]

They didn't, but ive lvled 5 accounts, and, worked all great

[faint current]

Were you pushing all 5 at powercap?

[brave oriole]

It makes a diff saving for m gear after chap 12

[faint current]

Easy fancy guide snippet

[brave oriole]

Mh yeah ofc

[faint current]

Not that I'm advocating building Solise any more than I am building Belinda or Shemira

[pallid nymph]

i have saveas L+ but no other maulers and no tank so idk how well he would work

[brave oriole]

Solise is good,just, i prefer ascending eironn or Saurus first

Deppends of everyone luck, with copies fodders etc

[pallid nymph]

idk if my team can survive long enough for shemira to be good lol

[brave oriole]

Rosaline, rowan, helps shem a lot

[pallid nymph]

yea, but the other heroes will all die so fast they cant help

[brave oriole]

That's why she's called a carry, she win the fight alone, others are just for support

[amber halo]

She doesn't win alone pre 161

[pallid nymph]

no one wins for me pre 161

[brave oriole]

Deppends of your game play. I have played from start for shem Lucius to a

[amber halo]

Me too but there are better options

[pallid nymph]

is saveas better? without any other good maulers

[amber halo]

I usually used him with Brutus khasos and some wilders

Or without khasos and trio wilder

[pallid nymph]

yea these are all my maulers

[brave oriole]

Deppends how you invested in shem, at chap 12 I could buy almost full m set for shem

[amber halo]

I full invested too and had shemira a after 15 days or so

Maybe 20 but still

[brave oriole]

If i start tomorrow a new account I won't play the same I guess, but that's bcs I've seen late game already

And i think diff of how to start an acc

My last acc for ex, I went for Saurus carry and si+30

Worked well tbh, meanwhile I ascended others and never used shemira

[amber halo]

It's objectively better to use others than Shem pre 161.

[brave oriole]

But it was still Lucius a for me

[pallid nymph]

i have no others better than shem pre 161 😢 do i just literally wait for afk rewards for a week until i am high enough lvl to win

[brave oriole]

Have you tried shem already? @pallid nymph

[pallid nymph]

i tried this and everyone dies too fast

[amber halo]

Did u use afk arena gift codes the recent ones are pretty generous

[pallid nymph]

yes hahaha i thats how i got so many shemira

[amber halo]

And includes even 20 stargaze cards

[pallid nymph]

i have 30 stargaze cards but i havent even unlocked it yet

[brave oriole]

Yeah, go for twins when you will be able to

You need e+ for militia

[pallid nymph]

yeah i tried them before and they seem really good

[amber halo]

Only 1 copy needed. Not 2 lol. Talene is better after u got e twins

[brave oriole]

He needs e+, if he got one, then one more

[hazy phoenix]

any suggestions for 32-20 comps?

[amber halo]

No he doesn't he just need e for guild boss

[pallid nymph]

i have e talene already

[brave oriole]

No, he needs for abyssal also

[amber halo]

Abyssal is ez even without twins lol

[pallid nymph]

this is as close as i can get everyone dies but shem gets 2 ults off

[brave oriole]

For some ppls it's not, they can't get the dmg for ranks

@pallid nymph swap rowan with Rosa

[pallid nymph]

shem does decent damage but not enough 😢

[brave oriole]

What artifacts atm?

[leaden turtle]

Nope stargazer priority is twin to E+ Talene to E+ than twins to A

[brave oriole]

@pallid nymph OK, so, call rowan, grace shem, eye Rosa

[amber halo]

Are u trolling it's twins to e then talene to mythic?

[pallid nymph]

wow it was rly close first try

[brave oriole]

@pallid nymph put rowan down, Rosa middle

[pallid nymph]

are artifacts a big difference?

i have this setup now

[brave oriole]

They are, grace gives Shield to shem, that saved for me a lot her ass

[amber halo]

No way u use grace over eye on Shem wtf

[brave oriole]

I did, you have no idea how good it was, haha, spcly 1v1 niru or Vedan

[craggy talon]

Use call imo, still have it on an alt and Shem has carried in c24

[pallid nymph]

the shield does help a lot

[amber halo]

Shem over ainz in chapter 24 aha? 🤣 Shem carry in chapter 24🤣🤣 say that on 1 st april instead bro

[brave oriole]

Ainz, need some specific team

[craggy talon]

Alt missed Ainz unfortunately so I gotta make do with what it has lol

[amber halo]

No matter what team he is in he is 10 times better than shemira

[brave oriole]

Maybe, but then you need tanks Frontline, while shem can hold still

I'm having a 9/9 ainz, bombing anything, but it's Arthur albedo help also

[amber halo]

Well i compared damage in many teams both a 240 in chapter 25. Shemira 600k power ainz 500k. Ainz do 15 million shemira does 6 million. So it's nowhere close

[pallid nymph]

also ainz is dimensional so not everyone can have him

[brave oriole]

Yeah, some ppls played smart and farmed dim gear and si artifact

I went for insta 9/9 and full set, and in half of day from chap 26 to 31

Ofc i had some exp dust saved there, but it wasn't hard at all, all the chapters, finished chap 30 with like 295 or so

I could have been a lower lvl, but no reason, since I. Want to hit chap 33 with alt

[amber halo]

If u use shemira at chapter 25 and on then you don't want to progress xD

[pallid nymph]

omg i finally won

time to get stuck on the next level 😎

oh god its saveas

[brave oriole]

Jusy keep shem team away from saveas, put talene and lyca or nara where saveas is

[pallid nymph]

hahahahah i try pull saveas with nara and he 1 shots her

i cant think of any way to make this better except maybe tasi to banish

[runic vine]

Hi, i need some help with this level, thanks!

these are my champions, i also have as mercs the ones you can see in 1st pic

[bleak rain]

This fight is going to make me losing my mind, I summon your wisdom, what should I do to win ?
Thanks for your time

[tender mesa]

Suggestions ?

[quartz glade]

I need help here, what would be the best lineup to go for or do i just need to improve my characters more?

[brave oriole]

@bleak rain try Saurus vs eironn, see if can cancel the pull

[pallid nymph]

is there any way i can improve this? rosaline dies early from saveas after he has killed talene and lyca

[still rune]

any one could help me build 3 lineups for challenger's tournament ?

[bleak rain]

@brave oriole Gonna give it a shot, thanks !

[brave oriole]

@bleak rain you win easier with ainz I guess. Better gear on Arthur than on albedo.
Lyca
Albedo
Rowan
Arthur
Ainz
, at least give it a try too

[pallid nymph]

this gets a bit closer but its still not good enough

[amber halo]

Normally Lucius shits on sav

[pallid nymph]

i dont have lucius or brutus 😦

[amber halo]

U need shemira backline against sav comps

[pallid nymph]

ye but idk who to put front, everyone gets melted

[amber halo]

Lyca with grace maybe and hope for dodge

[worn pilot]

Lyca works surprisingly well Frontline

[amber halo]

Exactly

[worn pilot]

Even if she dies early, its ok, because her biggest thing is the initial haste buff

[amber halo]

True tho lyca ult cc is a bit useful too

But yeah the haste is the important factor

[pallid nymph]

lyca gets 1 shot rip

[amber halo]

Try more since she can dodge

[pale jacinth]

I'm sorry, I still can't beat this damn stage. I swear, I didn't this one guy would be so tenacious to not let me win.

[amber halo]

@pallid nymph campaign has big rng factors

[bleak rain]

@brave oriole Gonna try it, Saurus didn’t work

[pallid nymph]

if shemira is back, rosa dies too fast

[tall seal]

getting just completely dumpstered on this stage. is there any way to make this work??

[amber halo]

Try to change position of rowan and rosa. So rowan got better focus of supporting shemira

[pale jacinth]

I DID IT THANK GOODNESS

[amber halo]

Huh?

[pale jacinth]

Finally beat 8-20

[pallid nymph]

congrats

[amber halo]

You are in for disappointment later then since it's much harder than so early in the game xD early progress is so much faster

[tall seal]

yeah, this seems to be a bit better

i just worry that i invested in the wrong heroes...

[amber halo]

No way I had almost same when i started and i got to chapter 20 within 30 days

I had Lucius baden rowan shemira and fawkes. Shemira carry early game is pretty good. And u need many ascended heroes anyways

[tall seal]

oh, that's cool. i will wait for more exp then. it's my third day so far, first account

[amber halo]

And rowan is beast at every point in the game

[pallid nymph]

rowan has carried me through so many fights

[amber halo]

Yeah rowan is op as fk

I use this now tho

[pallid nymph]

nice i wish i got the game when ainz was still in 😢

[amber halo]

Ainz carried me 10 times harder than shemira and yeah it's too bad

[pallid nymph]

ill save for joker and queen but idk if i will buy them, they dont seem that strong

[amber halo]

Ainz do 3 times more dmg than my shemira now even with 100k less power. So 15 million

Wow bro. They are u will regret it otherwise

[pallid nymph]

i tried them it seems like queen is pretty decent but idk about joker

[amber halo]

I think joker is way stronger than queen

He's a beast with tasi since he do all out attack on cc'ed enemies

[pallid nymph]

i think the cc on multiple enemies is nice, joker seems like he would be a carry in certain comps but i dont have any good comps

haha wtf i was just replaying the same strat like 30 times and it just randomly worked

[amber halo]

Ofc u will not have much to start with but later it will be strong and u can easily try to use him in a wilder team with Arden and tasi and maybe nemora or lyca I'm sure it's pretty strong since the wilder team has great cc. Especially when Arden is 141 then he cc 3 enemies and joker does all out attack so many times due to perma cc

Yes @pallid nymph there is so much rng in this game

[pallid nymph]

yeah, i have 40 days to save so by then i will probably have better judgement if its worth or not + ppl will have done good reviews on them both

[faint current]

Dimensionals will never not be worth it.

[amber halo]

First time I agree with nilas

[faint current]

That happens when you say correct things

[amber halo]

Which u rarely do but yes

[faint current]

Please let me know when you have the video proof you promised. I have proven you wrong many times and I am still waiting for the video you said would prove me wrong.

[brave oriole]

Proof about what?

[amber halo]

You only say things subjectively but you never have proof

[faint current]

Zakarr thinks that Tasi Banish and Fawkes Coffin target different people

[amber halo]

They do.

[brave oriole]

Yeah, it can be

[pallid nymph]

they always target the wrong person

[amber halo]

Against athalia they never target same person

[brave oriole]

I've seen it

[faint current]

What he does not understand is that they choose targets the same way, but due to in-combat factors THOSE will make them target different people.

Once he shows the video "proof" he promised I can point out exactly which factors are causing this discrepancy.

[amber halo]

I'm sending video proof to support not you

[brave oriole]

Well yeah, mostly the same person, very rare diff persons

Bcs of their a mount of haste I guess

[faint current]

He showed pictures of it happening, so I know what heroes were involved and what interaction is causing it, but he isn't posting the video so I cannot point it out to him otherwise he will make more excuses.

[amber halo]

I didn't have time to do it since I'm not at pc and whenever i get home I'm with my gf not afk arena

[past urchin]

Isnt that because they both target by highest attack rating which at the time the banish/coffin goes off may be changing because of hero interactions?

[faint current]

Correct

And based on the pictures he showed I know exactly WHICH interaction caused it, and another user actually said which interaction it is after Zakarr left. If he searches this discord he can find it.

[pallid nymph]

im glad im bad at the game so i cant argue about things like this

[faint current]

Honestly these interactions are really cool

I'll have to check, I wonder if stars/furn will get Wukong to an AR where he can soak CC of if that's unrealistic/impossible.

[pallid nymph]

is there any reason nara doesnt knock over some enemies? is it because they are a boss or something?

[faint current]

Depends. Some enemies are immune to CC sometimes.

[pallid nymph]

or just RNG

[faint current]

Tenacity can probably "dodge" the knockdown but idk if any campaign enemies ever have any tenacity.

[pallid nymph]

i think its just bad RNG with timings of abilities or something

[past urchin]

She may also get interrupted by heavy damage and what not at the time she tries to.

[faint current]

Yeah. That type of interaction is something I find hard to notice unless I slow the fight to 1x speed and sometimes even then I make a video so I can slow it down

Warek is often CC immune if I'm not mistaken

Yeah when he uses Bloodlust

[pallid nymph]

is there a reason nara would throw the hook at an enemy but not pull them in?

[faint current]

If they are CC immune it won't pull them. Like Ainz starts the fight CC immune

Wait nvm I'm incorrect

[pallid nymph]

it happens here

[faint current]

With Ainz I believe nara straight up picks a DIFFERENT target rather than failing to hook him

[past urchin]

Or again she gets interrupted.
If she gets stunned or takes a hard hit while the hook is still.mid air, she wont pull.

[faint current]

^ Probably that based on those enemies

Wait, is Estrilda charge hitting nara mid-hook?

Idk the radius of Estrilda charge. That IS pretty far up

[pallid nymph]

no he doesnt charge

[faint current]

Any way for you to take a video at 1x speed and post?

[past urchin]

I think its Morvus' blast Nilas.
He goes after the backline and hits pretty hard.

[faint current]

Oh good point

[pallid nymph]

I think it might be that, idk what a lot of ability animations look like but I just thought it was weird she would hook and not pull

[past urchin]

Anyway I wouldnt try hooking him in.
He will murder your heroes 1 by 1.

[pallid nymph]

yes i won by RNG anyway ahaha

[past urchin]

xD

[raw niche]

Ezizh is preventing daimon from ulting. How do I stop that?

[pallid nymph]

at this point I don't even change comp, just spam retry until I win by RNG

[tender mesa]

I would appreciate some help

[past urchin]

Is Queen your carry?

Because if she is...
Not to discourage you, I think that Belinda she is linked to would actually get the job done better at this stage.

[pallid nymph]

anyone got ideas for this? its hard getting shemira to ult and rosaline dies too early

[pale kettle]

@pallid nymph who is queen linked to also try saurus instead of hogan

[pallid nymph]

queen is linked to hogan

[pale kettle]

Yeah use queen instead of him

[pallid nymph]

queen dies so fast even behind talene

khasos is the big problem, im winning then his ult wipes my team

oh god i won by rng but the next level looks like a nightmare

[prisma spade]

Can’t figure out how to win

Why aren’t my picture loading

[pallid nymph]

this team has every hero i hate, if it had a saveas as well i would just stop playing this game

[native forge]

Hi👋, Im new in this game...can u guys tell me who should i focused in for character upgrade, and pls suggest me some line up for my team thx 🙏

[pallid nymph]

wukong can carry to lvl 100, lucius is a good tank but he will be level capped at 100 unless you get another copy, rowan is one of the best heroes in the game

[split ivy]

Rosa is great, so is Gwen

[native forge]

Oh ok, so... I should focus upgrading those guys right?

[tall seal]

so after 100 wukong is not that strong?

[native forge]

Umm... Can u guys tell me who should i replace with? Should i replace numisu with rowan? @split ivy @pallid nymph

[pale kettle]

Anyone got an idea?

[tall seal]

im new to the game, but i think that you should. rowan is considered to be one of the best supports

[pale kettle]

He is

He is the best nom dimensiomal or celestial character

[native forge]

Ok thx guys👍

[runic vine]

Can someone help me?

[fiery void]

Hello guys, been struggling in chapter 11. Any kind person got some advices?

[pallid nymph]

@fiery void do you have rowan?

[manic mica]

Hello everyone. Im stuck at 6-27 and cant figure out the right team. Any help please?

[fiery void]

Couldn't get him despite pulling LB over and over

[final star]

Check out pinned in #classic-questions

[pallid nymph]

rip, i used rowan through chapter 11 so idk what to recommend to you. i know that shemira + rosaline is good but you could try saveas carry with brutus as a tank@fiery void

but im stuck on 11-40 now 😄

[manic mica]

@πsu will do

[pallid nymph]

if u want to tag someone you can shift + click on their name

idk how to beat this, my energy gets drained then khasos ults and wipes my team

[valid pier]

What's the best plan for mauler tower? Can I do it with who I have? Who should I be working on to try to get the team further, preferably with synergy for main play? Is it with getting Tidus to +30 in the process?

[low apex]

Any good counter to Athalia here?

[pale kettle]

None is supposed to battle now LOL

[pallid nymph]

i hope somehow my heroes got stronger and i can finally beat 11-40 after maintenance is done lol

[pale kettle]

I can maybe help u i beat it up recently and yeah im at 16-20 rn

[stuck trellis]

daimon
rowan
lyca
tasi
ferael

usually having ferael tank athalia is the best option (assuming u have good gear on him)

[wooden tartan]

@low apex Do you have Tasi with 3/3 f? You can try Tasi Eironn Ferael Lyca Rowan. I guess i beat it that way. Rowan can tank Athalia also Ferael, Eironn n Tasi can do a bunch of CC

@pallid nymph Talene and Rowan frontline, Shemira n Roseline bsckline. Youre missing one tank like Lucius behind Talene for example. Lyca doesnt help without +20 SI also she only buff melee champs no Wizards. With e+ Talene I used her all the way till chapter 20 with a good comp and strong champ like Gwyneth or Eironn. Also Shemira or Belinda can help you a lot.

[low apex]

Ya my task has 3/3, I’ll try when maint is done

[manic mica]

any help please to get pass 6-27 with this?

[slate stump]

Focus on levelling mirael she should be 20-40 levels higher than your others, second priority should be hogan your tank and then the rest of your team should be supports

[past urchin]

Overlevel Wukong.
Hes a beast at this stage.

[manic mica]

@slate stump @past urchin Will try! Thank you

[past urchin]

Reset your Shemira :)
Its too early for her.

[manic mica]

okay 🙂

[past urchin]

Ferael isnt doing much either.

[manic mica]

so Mirael, Hogan, Wukong and best support/healer?

from what I have

[misty flume]

Hello people

[pale kettle]

Try get rowan

[misty flume]

:) I would like some help on my line up pls I'll send u a pic in a sec

[manic mica]

@pale kettle im trying. Have him on my whislist but no luck so far

[misty flume]

I also hav a saurus

[pale kettle]

@manic mica i see u dont like ulmus? Maybe link him to joker then cuz it doesnt seem like u want to lvl him and he isnt really good

[misty flume]

Oops I meant this 1

[manic mica]

@pale kettle joker will be gone in few hours. Im on trial

[pale kettle]

Ik

U can trial queen or u trialed her?

[manic mica]

not yet. She is any good?

[pale kettle]

I dont think so everyone prefers joker more me as well queen isnt really dmging for me but i mean better take it not leave it

[pallid nymph]

this is the worst lvl ever pls someone help

[pale kettle]

Do u have eironn

[pallid nymph]

yes but only E

[pale kettle]

It will work out i used him only for his wind ablity which pulls em ovet

[pallid nymph]

who should I swap for him? and what position

[pale kettle]

Try bursting of khaos idk ur bursters maybe saurus? Does ur talene even gets used here?

And with eironn try swiping mira to u so she dies up faster

[pallid nymph]

talene is just a distraction

[pale kettle]

Change shem to 5 saurus to 2 rosa to 1 eironn to 3 rowan to 4

Thats what i would do

Oh u cant cuz of server reboot

[pallid nymph]

it's up now

and if I do that everything just dies instantly

[pale kettle]

U need a healer i guess then

Or just try maxing ur shemira to 160lvl it might make diffrence

[pallid nymph]

yeah but getting to 160 will take like 3 days

[pale kettle]

U sure udont have any chests in ur bag like 24h of blue orb or smthin

[pallid nymph]

no 😢

[pale kettle]

Well then idk just try get some

[pallid nymph]

I can't burst khasos he's too tanky and he gets his ult and 1 shots

[pale kettle]

Can u make a gud arden the rare mage from wilder ? His roots are pretty decent hetr

[pallid nymph]

I have him E+

but I heard he's only really good after 140

[vapid field]

Help?

[desert edge]

I’ve been stuck for a while on this level, if anyone can help with a line up that would be great! ❤️

[meager parrot]

this formation doesn't seem to be working anymore

[quasi dirge]

Hey I started yesterday I want to go hard on pve, what lineup do you think is best and why ? :d
I was thinking of : Lucius / estrilda and Rosa / Gwyneth / Belinda or Eironn

[desert edge]

@meager parrot hey if your working on the joker arena of trials you can find an easy picture guide online if you search it up. When I searched it up it was on a Reddit post.
Hope this helps! ❤️

[meager parrot]

I'm referring to that guide, this is that posted lineup :)
it doesn't work anymore, possibly since the update

oh I just got it, adding tasi to your side instead of gwyn does the trick

[desert edge]

@meager parrot ok awesome glad you figured it out!

[pallid nymph]

it worked for me like that, I think it depends on RNG tho

[meager parrot]

there is no rng in the trials

[pallid nymph]

maybe I did the trial before the update?

[meager parrot]

most likely yes, the game got updated 45 minutes ago :)

[desert edge]

@quasi dirge hi! Welcome to afk arena. I would suggest going to questions section to ask about team building. There tends to be a lot more people there with more experience. There are also videos online for basic beginners tips that I found very helpful! Belinda is a good carry, and lucuis is a great tank to keep because of his shield ability that allows the team to heal up a bit.

[brittle musk]

Stack on every stage with farael and grezh, any counter for those two?

[south grail]

Need help

[narrow lark]

Brutus, Nemora, fawkes I found worked quite well against Grez + Ferael

[pallid nymph]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/f5oeq6/counter_guide_akahow_to_deal_with_certain_units/

[brittle musk]

Thanks guys, will try it out

[pulsar crest]

help! silvina jumps at rowan and then moves to brutus. ainz is the only one who gets to ult, but even with full crits and a lot of luck niru survives and finishes him off

[brittle musk]

Try make daimon carry, reset all heroes and max him as much as possible, carry works better than balanced team early on imo

Or belinda

[south grail]

I can’t level up daimon anymore rn. I need a grave born legendary

[brittle musk]

Jeez, how you get there? My ainz can nothing without rowan, so I add weaker mage beside brutus as decoy, if all goes well ainz able to wipe all out with rowan buff with 2-3 ults

[brittle musk]

Yup, mythic.. belinda good carry too tho, level matters to much anyway

[brave oriole]

@pulsar crest put back rowan in the middle, and replace lyca with some low mage, so rowan is free

But if you want, remove Brutus, and put lyca front and the mage back of lyca

[pale kettle]

Rlly hardstuck here what do I do

[pulsar needle]

Could u help me beat this stage i dont know what i van change to beat this shit maybe just my Heroes are shitty

[distant plume]

I can't get the queen lineup for the arena of trials to work for the lower two fights following the guide. Any alternatives I can use?

one use Queen -Orthros - Belinda - Rowan - Skriath

[summer cedar]

that's prolly bc of the reworks. unless someone has solved them again, nothing for it but to experiment

[pearl zinc]

Any high deficit 34-4-2 clears that dont take a 3/3 thoran?

[sly forge]

You could try this here. Working for one of my guild mates 🙂
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=13&stage=22

[obsidian island]

This fight won’t work for me in joker’s trials. It’s the same as in the guide.

[solemn sonnet]

Hows my line up? It works bout 70% of the time so I'm not complaining to much but always room for improvements

[lethal veldt]

Just got to mythic on Estrilda who should I work up?

[fossil solar]

Been stuck, any help

[knotty flare]

Cannot finish this trial, get mostly done then talene powers up izold and everyone dies

[brave oriole]

@knotty flare gwyn should nuke ferael and nara fast

[knotty flare]

It's the other three that have been my problem

[thorn thorn]

Can anyone help me with 29-60? I don't have Farael, he is only M+ 😦

[icy whale]

Im a bit new but id like help with what formation I should make im kinda stuck

[narrow lark]

How are the first 2 lineups, is there anything I should change?

[weary narwhal]

How does this look?

[mental narwhal]

does anyone have a setup for the last requirement?

[pale kettle]

Can anybody help me

[flat pebble]

can anyone help me wiht defensive lineups for HoE?

@pale kettle try to update the game in play store/app store

[pale kettle]

I have I have the latest version

[flat pebble]

reinstall

[daring kayak]

Who have screen of 33-20? (I don't have Talene & dimensionals.)

Just Arthur.

[pale kettle]

What if I loose all my hero’s

[flat pebble]

@pale kettle if u have your account link to google play or apple its literally impossible to lose them

[pale kettle]

Ok

[gentle quail]

Pls help @JaysonQ#4303, In the end, only vedan remains alive

[pale kettle]

Thanks it worked

[gentle quail]

@drowsy gazelle

[subtle wolf]

yo can someone help me out set up 3 Teams for Hoe?

[summer cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/798727978883350548/image0.png

[pale kettle]

Could anyone give suggestions for Heroes of Esperia comps? I didnt really get to spend time on it last time because I was focused on abyssal. Tbh I do enough pvp to get by but dont grind or research comps much for my level

[dull ruin]

anyone know how to beat stage 15 in the mysty valley, the 15 seconds one

[feral dune]

A recommendation for campaign progression would be nice! Thanks

[drowsy gazelle]

Shem

lucius
Rowan
wukong/brutus
Arden

[summer cedar]

Windbinder ainz, call on nara

[dull ruin]

@summer cedar i don't have windbinder yet 😦

[summer cedar]

it might work with call on ainz. problem is diminishing returns, my nara ulted brutus at the very last second so...

[gentle quail]

he always remains alive by continuously making the ulti and always regenerating his life to the fullest

don't I do him enough damage?

[drowsy gazelle]

Vedan is rely annoying, try rng it. If not then try putting in another healer in ur team

[pale kettle]

@feral dune #1, stop ascending heroes to L that you cant immediately get to L+. It is a gigantic waste of fodder. And just for the future, dont boost a hero past L+ unless you can immediately make them M+, and ideally heroes that you'll be able to get 4 copies of to make A tier until you can have at least 10 ascended. Spreading your fodder thin weakens your progress dramatically.

I would say Belinda, Lucius, Rowan, and Rosa are your core 4 and then you alternate putting shem, brutus, athalia, or tidus depending what the enemy team might call for. Try to get a copy of talene if you can too, she will help a lot with story

[feral dune]

Gotcha thank you!

[gentle quail]

Ok

[cyan solar]

anyone got an idea on how to beat this? ezizh is a real scumbag >:(,
also saveas does crazy damage as usual

[pale kettle]

@cyan solar you're honestly so far ahead of your crystal levels, if you've tried shaking up the comps then you might just need to merc. I would assume you would want to put eironn top so that he can take out saveas early. Also maybe have saurus back mid if hes dying early and put tasi up front if she can survive the initial damage?

[cyan solar]

wait im too far ahead? what
also, i tried ezizh back top but ezizh uses his mind control skill on eironn, making him useless up there, tasi instadies anywhere front row

[junior elbow]

HOE
what should be my second/third comp

was thinking ainz/albedo/talene/rowan, dont have arthur tho

[wide breach]

Currently have this on defense, anything I can rearrange to have two stronger teams in HoE?

[cyan solar]

did it, i reset my eironn and overleveled my saurus

, you were saying something?

[pale kettle]

Nice. Sorry didnt see second message before I typed that lol

Could anyone give suggestions for Heroes of Esperia comps? I didnt really get to spend time on it last time because I was focused on abyssal. Tbh I do enough pvp to get by but dont grind or research comps much for my level

[worn pilot]

Tried several lineups and formations, not getting this to work. Does anyone have any suggestions?

@pale kettle Link has a recent video on comps with f2p substitutes. Maybe check it and see if you have the heroes you need for some of his comps

[karmic valve]

Hey y'all what should my best lineup be

[teal hill]

Guys. Can i get suggestions for synergic teams for Challenger and Hesperia events?
I currently use.
1- Front: Lucius, Talene. Back: Ainz, Rowan, tasi
2- Front: Brutus, Mezoth. Back: theowyn, Ferael, Shemira
3- Front: Skreg, Seirus. Back: Nemora, Safiya, Rosaline.

I was advised to combine Pippa and Tasi, should i and leave twins in the first team?

[summer cedar]

why is ur E brutus in crystal but not ur E+ one? should not be building L heroes. try brutus luci belinda rosa lyca maybe?

[pale kettle]

What do I do here? I'm being completely shredded

[outer gyro]

Been stuck here for a few days, any help would be great

[valid comet]

I cant seem to find a team that works but have blew through everything else. Would hate to wait for a merc. The best one i had is shown i end up losing with thoran/fereal alive.

[tired dove]

Any lineup suggestion changes?

[narrow lark]

Try
Rosa, Brutus
Belinda, Nemora, Cecilia

I would also try to start building Ainz. Hes a much better carry then Belinda

[tired dove]

I was going to do ainz focus once I got Queen

[narrow lark]

Ah okay 👍

[tired dove]

Since then I can farm Phoenix lady and Arthur

[cosmic mountain]

Anyone?

[summer cedar]

try brutus instead of daimon mbe

[finite wind]

Looking for HoE line ups, trying to make energy cycle and stall teams if possible

[elder anchor]

I was told to use ainz to get up higher chapters so I’m wondering what team I should build cause I’m kinda stuck at the moment on ch 12 -26 any help is appreciated

[amber halo]

So many L that can't go l+ hurt my eyes

[timber gate]

Put rowan in frontlines, he barely moves and would be more helpful closer to the enemy and the damagers-tanks with his ult

[iron meadow]

Trying to push esperia tower, need help with team comp

[solar shard]

Who am I replacing with the borrowed Twins here? 👀

[small acorn]

@finite wind your misssing some key components of energy cycle meta.

I would consider

Eironn, fereal, lyca, gwyn, lorsan

Ainz, albedo, talene, arthur, nara (or nako)

Athalia, rowan, tasi, saurus, daimo

Wow that was tougher than i thought... maybe some testing, its almost like you have enougj heros for 2x strong teams but not quite 3x... pvp niche is so tight with what heros are good...

@solar shard numisu

[solar shard]

Thought that would be the answer, and I was hoping it would be the answer too XD

[lunar garden]

How could I improve my training?

[ruby drift]

Been trapped on this stage

[pale kettle]

Could try something like this:
Ainz
Albedo
Rowan
Talene
Tasi

[tidal sun]

Send help

[ruby drift]

Tasi dies immediately

[flat moth]

what are the 4 best light bearers to partner up with wukong

[iron tree]

I need desperate help. I’m not sure what to do and I’m stuck rn

[vast meadow]

How to cheese when Ferael CC

[hidden cobalt]

Anyone have suggestions ?

[pale kettle]

Take vedan and savaes out asap

[pale kettle]

Try daimon/lucius there. Or change Ainz and Tasi around. It might take a couple try. Btw who did Tasi banish?

[final star]

Any tips would be appreciated

[ruby drift]

No one, she just dies from belinda's auto

[pale kettle]

Switch Ainz and Tasi around then. And pray Rowan potion keeps your team alive long enough for Ainz burst

[ruby drift]

That niru keeps healing... tf is that..

[pale kettle]

Cause he keeps killing Talene as she revives i think XD

[ruby drift]

Omg thanks for that info... i tried lucius insted of brutus... i passed it

[pale kettle]

Well done 😄

[ruby drift]

Lmao now im stuck again lol

[pale kettle]

Switch your team around and test some different comps. No worries

[humble cloud]

Don't know what to do there

[pale kettle]

Try dropping nemora for Brut tank (in place of Rosa). Put rosa in the backline. Do you have Rowan?

[humble cloud]

I have elite + rowan 180

[iron tree]

I’m stuck can someone help me? I’m not sure how to progress right now and I’ve asked over 4 times

[rain zinc]

Any benefit of switching someone out for Joker?

[pale kettle]

You're all over the place. Where are you right now with progression?

[iron tree]

chapter 12

I was initially using niru and ira to break level cap but switched it to shemira and rosaline once I got them L+

[coral pier]

Maybe Lyca but I don't think Joker has many good synergies in that team

[frail panther]

Current team for chapters suggestions, changes?

[pale kettle]

You invest in too many LB. You won't get enough fodders to M+ your Lucius and Rosa on top of your main carry. You gonna need to focus on a wilder i think

[iron tree]

Lyca?

[edgy musk]

Any tips?

[pale kettle]

Sure Tasi or Lyca is good. But you need 4 copies of them first before you L+ them or else you will just have a bunch of L heroes. NEVER L a hero unless you can L+ them right away.

[iron tree]

yeah I got that. So i should try going for lyca or tasi? What if I get some eironn copies

[pale kettle]

Eironn/Saurus are good too but you already have your carry. Too many carry I'd say. You need support to keep your carry alive

[coral pier]

Estrilda doesn't do too much in that team, consider using someone else instead, as an example arden is great at that stage of the game with his 3 man stun.

[edgy musk]

I will try that. Any specific lineups? I cant see arden working pretty well there

[iron tree]

alright thanks bro

[coral pier]

Arden should work great there. He is just pretty much op at that stage because a 3 man stun is good for any comp.

[edgy musk]

All of the skills are pretty much ready to be casted but they died before casting them. Maybe i need better eq and higher levels before i can win the stage

[coral pier]

Using Lyca could work too for more speed. You should easily have enough power to blast through that stage. More retries could also work.

[edgy musk]

Who should i change for lyca?

[pale kettle]

Rosa probably

[edgy musk]

Will try. Yeah the faction bonus lost makes my lucius died before casting his

[coral pier]

Maybe Arden so you can keep the faction bonus

[edgy musk]

Oh finally i win it, thanks Laku and Silent. Arden works

[pale monolith]

I am beyond stuck

[vapid ridge]

What's the best team I could build for the esperia event?

[pale monolith]

Daimon, Hendrick, Queen, Rowan, Belinda/Tasi

[vapid ridge]

Thank you so much!

[pale monolith]

Np

[pale kettle]

Could drop Thoran for Talene. Maybe she can buy you enough time for Ainz's ult

[pale monolith]

Nope, its only worse. Ainz gets 1 ult but Niru just heals back up and Isabel survives

[polar sparrow]

My best lineup for heroes of Esperia? Normally I use
ainz
albedo
Rowan
brutus
Talene
But not sure how well they scale to level 240?

[pale kettle]

They are good. No worries. I'd say Talene tank in place of Brut. Drop Brut for Lyca

[graceful wind]

I am stuck at this level

[quartz crow]

What composition would you use to kill the front line first?

[nova chasm]

grezhul and ferael too annoying

[delicate osprey]

Wilders 370. Been stuck here for weeks.

[signal brook]

How can i beat this

[pale kettle]

Just wait it out. Level up a bit more and it should be easy. Or you could try hiring a Twin merc and crush it with power

[final star]

Help pls

[high tree]

With what should I change shemira later. I am f2p and been playing for 2 months. Should I focus on daimon being my main carry?

[final star]

Yes Daimon

[teal mulch]

Help pls i am stuck

[high tree]

So what should be team around her. And is joker,queen even worth? They did not realy amaze me tbh

[hidden cobalt]

What is my best team/am I missing a secret carry 10-28 been stuck

[high tree]

I am happy how my team preform for now but I dont know whats shemiras limit and looks like I am kinda close to it. Wish I went for ainz

[final star]

Dimensionals are always worth imo, never know how they might impact the meta, as for Queen/Joker, I haven't uses them much but have seem tests on ch35; Tasi, Eironn, Lyca, Saurus are good ones as they're used until end game and are very good units

Fer is also good for cc support with Daimon carry

[high tree]

Well I am collecting for them anyway coz as u said,u never know. I guess the plan would be to merge them with shemira and brutua in 2 months when I will be able to exchange

I guess I got luck on copys till now. Thank you for tips

[hidden cobalt]

@final star any advice for me on 10-28 mirel is always left last but she can’t beat bloke and idk if I am missing a 2nd carry or iv just walled

[final star]

Good choice, though missing out ok Ainz is a big stepback his scalings are insane

[high tree]

Yea that was my mistake. But hey,we live we learn

[final star]

What's the enemy and what team are you running

[hidden cobalt]

Bunch of nerds that’s what I call em

[subtle wolf]

can you help me out for Hoe?

[hidden cobalt]

Stupid bat boy goes into bat mode and is immune to my fire eagle

And I’m like 35 diamonds off summons

[final star]

I would suggest you read Arty's pvp guide here, covers pretty much the meta comps to use rn https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/kvuvsp/comprehensive_pvp_guide_by_arty_alpattex/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[final star]

Well I don't know what heroes you're running

[hidden cobalt]

I keep swapping them around or moving formation preying something will work tbh

That lv 133 red guy in front row like 1 shots anyone I have in front row opposite of him

[final star]

try switching rosa and nem, should be able to charm vedan; if u need to stall switch izold for brutus and see if that works

could also swap lyca for rosa for haste, helps with charming

[hidden cobalt]

Lyca for rosa ur crazy she double casts my fire bird

But na I’ll try anything haha

[final star]

if that's the case then keep rosa

[hidden cobalt]

Na didn’t work or at least I didn’t sweep will give it 4 more battles

[final star]

Main thing is that you can charm the Vedan I think, if he keeps oneshotting Izold just put Brutus in

[pulsar needle]

Could anginę help me beat this stage ?

[bitter rose]

Is there an ideal setup for this?

[final star]

Arthur should tank brutus, Thane makes Arthur turns around iirc

[hidden cobalt]

Idk I guess I’ll just sit on it and play out events and summons

[pale kettle]

Albedo dies too fast then every one focuses on arthur

[hidden cobalt]

Like I can’t make half my chars L+ so they just stay e+ so my crystal never goes up

Unless I just lv 5 fodder chars to 140 but even then idk if I have the resources or cards to do so

[visual skiff]

Any advice? Been stuck because grezhul reduce damage

[pale kettle]

Daimon
--> rowan
Ainz
-->brutus
Tasi?

[proper pagoda]

is anyone making HoE formations if I send my heroes?

[outer escarp]

Stuck..do i need to just wait on exp?

[visual skiff]

@pale kettle will try

Annihilated

[limber raft]

Am i just stuck until i get enough fodder units to raise saveas/mireal? My main dps is lvl limited already lol

[graceful wind]

What to do?

[wooden gorge]

Need help

[pale monolith]

Any ideas, those are all the heros I hate dealing with

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me build a better team?

[pale kettle]

I took a year and a half break and have no idea what I’m doing anymore lmao

I need help

[pastel isle]

using mostly lyca ainz rowan lucius and tasi atm for any content. are there other rwcommandations?

[jade patrol]

@pale kettle Talene and Lucius in front try switching if talene can’t come back fast enough, tasi lyca and shemira at the bottom

@pastel isle nemora daimon fawkes, grave born are useful like oden and nara

@pale monolith try to disrupt grezhul Isabella and shemera put ainz in front to tank a hit try using Rowan eironn nara fawkes zaphrael In different combinations so can ainz ult

[pastel saddle]

@pale kettle Try this setup - clear team and add in this order -
Lucius, Lyca, Kelthur, Shemira and Daimon

[pale kettle]

Tried and it worked up to 10-28, thanks

[sour pond]

Need to kill enemies in 15 seconds or less? I would be grateful for every hint

[onyx ridge]

Hey any help? Stuck at that brutus Niru Vedan combo :( Ainz is +16

[pale kettle]

Need help

[sour pond]

Try shemira and lyca front - on 1 daimon - 2 lucius 3- kelthur and if it doesnt work swap positions and play around

[sour pond]

In your level you can still use shemira and saveas. Integrate them in your comp

Put lorsan out. Put in saveas on lorsans position - put rowan front line - lyca on middle back

[onyx ridge]

Everything insta dies except brutus Ainz. Lorsan ensures 2 peeps die. Whats shemiras for. Is it stun or smt?

[sour pond]

For dmg, you need to get her ult out

[onyx ridge]

Yeah nothing really does dmg except Ainz, but he only survives for 1 before vedan bats him. Nothing gets ult except Ainz. Do I move call to shemira?

[sour pond]

And put rowan front then - he still heals after hes dead so a good hero that can die

[sour pond]

Yea call if her ult doesnt get out.

But keep lyca, rowan, brutus in - idk about lorsan but if hees so important then keep him too

And since your ainz is overleveled keep him too or try switch with belinda

Pls swap positions with rowan and lyca

[onyx ridge]

Shemira dies right after ulti :( then battle ends

Why not lyca front she has more health and just for haste only. Rowan frontline instadies

[sour pond]

Then place her back line or try without her

[sour pond]

She can deal good amount of dmg , rowan also still gives his pots after death. In position 3 her ult hits every enemy also

And pls just try positions can work wonders

[onyx ridge]

Ah didn't know Rowan gives pots after death xD

[jade patrol]

@onyx ridge change ainz to middle, Brutus where lyca is move lyca back to lorsan remove lorsan for nemora and put Rowan at bottom

[sour pond]

Need to kill enemies in 15 sec any ideas? Ty

[onyx ridge]

AYE I removed lorsan put in Arden and Arden shreddeddddddd with the roots xD

I used brutus and Ainz as tank Ainz still managed 3 ults hahaha

[jade patrol]

Joker and ainz

[pale kettle]

thanks, shemira and lyca at front helped but had to replace kelthur and move the people in the back around

[lunar garden]

Any advice or improvement?

[sour pond]

Saw that too. Didnt work for me. Whats the strat behind it?

[jade patrol]

@sour pond you should be able to crit with joker gives a passive stun, ainz kills with “the goal of all life is death”

But that’s 24 secs at lvl 3

[sour pond]

Yea im only lvl 313

[onyx ridge]

Ayo I'm back can I get help on 15-40? Everything survives even if Ainz roots and Rowan ults

[jade patrol]

Mmm @sour pond I think jokers stun stops the clock for a bit but ainz is able to fill the gauge with lyca and the twins

But you have get the animation stun I do have queen

[sand pelican]

I need help please, have been stuck here for a while

[sour pond]

Ty very much

[worn pilot]

Why so many legendaries

[jade patrol]

Do you have an oden?

[sand pelican]

Nope

[worn pilot]

@sand pelican

1. You need a carry 20-40 levels above the rest, maybe this is your difficulty
2. You have so many legendaries and not a single L+, meaning you're going to get capped at Lv140 for a while with the rest of your heroes, so your progress is going to get stuck

[jade patrol]

Can you screen shot your hero’s list

[sand pelican]

I'm new, so all advice is greatly appreciated

[onyx ridge]

Can I get some help with this? Fereals energy steal gets me every time :(

[jade patrol]

@sand pelican mmmm try orthros in front of veden, wukong next to him, Arthur behind orthros joker and the twins

@onyx ridge I’m stuck with the same enemy setup actually just higher up 😂😂😐

[pale kettle]

Need help

[sand pelican]

Will try that, thx so much

[sour pond]

Put talene front

[sour pond]

She has more use in dying

[scarlet depot]

Need help with this lvl pls

[onyx ridge]

@jade patrol xD fereals a pain hahahaha

[sour pond]

Or put kelthur in towards enemy mirael, since he has high level and also gb counters lb

[jade patrol]

It’s the grezhul he just runs everyone over if ainz goes off he has his minions summoned 🙄

[pale kettle]

I get wrecked hardcore 😂

[sour pond]

What did you try already. Try putting talene out for kelthur you could also try using tasi and do you have rowan already? Use him maybe

[pale kettle]

I have Rowan as well

[sour pond]

Swap kelthur with shemira. That what i meaned bc kelthur swaps positions with opposite oppponent

[sour pond]

Put him in crystal then. He is top tier hero

[pale kettle]

i would but idk who to use with him

[sour pond]

You can use him with almost every comp. he gives your team more energy and health with his potions.

[pale kettle]

i'll just have to reset someone then

[jade patrol]

@pale kettle sorry I couldn’t find the photo. Try talene in front of golus, estrilda knocks back so either put Brutus there the either orthros or ferael and the switch lyca and daimon in position

[sour pond]

Easy choice. Put satrana out. Rowan really is core he is the best supporter

[flat pebble]

hi everyone >.<
can anyone help me wiht lineups for HoE? appreciated smiling_face_with_3_hearts

[onyx ridge]

@jade patrol plz tell me when u get solution I made it close but Ainz is always half ultis away from winning

[pale kettle]

i took satrana out the crystal have to wait 24h

[flat pebble]

@onyx ridge call on ainz?

[onyx ridge]

Yee call on ainz

[jade patrol]

@onyx ridge I leveled past that stage I’m out of dust now .-. I need 50k in dust

@onyx ridge as in I leveled my hero’s high to get out of 15-40 ahahah

[onyx ridge]

Ohhhh xD I'm so close to stargazing I can't waitttttttttt 30 free tickets watch me pull 2 twins hahahaha. Stargazing was the reason I bought Ainz to faster push xD, even though I'll only use cards to stargaze it just seems so cool to me

[pale kettle]

i stood no chance lol

[jade patrol]

@flat pebble from my understanding you’ll just need to have a solid 2 teams to rank high

[worn pilot]

Suggestions?

[flat pebble]

@Ohemgeejeff#1465 eironn, skriath saff comp
and another wiht izold?

[pale kettle]

These are the characters I can reset, so should I reset for Rowan

[jade patrol]

@worn pilot eironn at the bottom to distrust Angelo and the middle guy, lyca and tasi in front is a suggestion but I’m not sure

[pale kettle]

Get super shredded here

[worn pilot]

@jade patrol tried, but I still got melted ;(

[jade patrol]

@flat pebble sorry I’m bot sure what that question is for, your team comp or mine

*as a suggestion to get over this level

[flat pebble]

@jade patrol oh, it is for my HoE comps lol

[drifting hill]

So I am absolute shit at coming up with lineups, so I struggle in PvP when I can’t just copy a single lineup.

Looking for some help crafting three lineups for HoE? Really appreciate it

[jade patrol]

@worn pilot who is doing the damage what are you having trouble with survival or getting energy

[flat pebble]

@jade patrol but what issue do u have with your comp on chp?

[jade patrol]

I’m stuck here I’ve tried a lot of combinations but I’ve been blessed with a lot of dupes but not the ones I need/want

[worn pilot]

@jade patrol Belinda is doing the damage, but I need her and Lucius to ult. Both of them die before they can pull their ults off (Luc to shield, then Bel to dish out damage)

[pale kettle]

Need help

[sour pond]

I dont know if talene is any good at this point. Put lucius or talene out and put daimon in also shemira front

Does lucius ult or not? If he doesnt ult put him backline pls

[jade patrol]

@flat pebble I’m not sure who your dimensionals are attached to. Remember the formation you put in is defensive, if you’re going to use the izold, I would do izold lyca skriath eironn Rowan for a team

[pale kettle]

Still have no clue what I’m doing lmao

[flat pebble]

@sour pond telene is useful at prety much every ascension tier

[sour pond]

For me she didnt work - there were always better options for me

[flat pebble]

of course, she does alot of dmg M+ and A

[pale kettle]

he ults when i use talene as well

[worn pilot]

Talene = God mode 😂

[sour pond]

Can your shemira ulta thats most important

[jade patrol]

@flat pebble if you’re going to do an ainz team it would have to be 2nd or 3rd set

[worn pilot]

I still can't figure out how to get past this stage...

[pale kettle]

after a while yes

[pale kettle]

after a while

rowan gets wiped

[worn pilot]

I finally managed to get Lucius to ult, but it still isn't enough.

[sour pond]

He still useful after death. His wood table still gives the potions to your team for health- and energy reg maybe you should put him front as tank when he dies anyways

[jade patrol]

@worn pilot Mirael and estrilda will kill lyca and push her back try putting fawkes instead of rosaline

@worn pilot honestly you might have a better chance with shemira doing the damage

[pale kettle]

This is probably a more helpful picture but idk what I’m doing

[brave oriole]

@worn pilot maybe replace tasi with a hypogean for some def

[pale kettle]

I can’t deal enough dmg so idk

[worn pilot]

@jade patrol you're right, but she's level capped, so I can't overlevel her like Belinda

[brave oriole]

Belinda should have eye, and Rosa something dps also, blade maybe

[pale kettle]

should i try get a mercenary? 😂

because i can't win

[wicked gazelle]

Been stuck here for awhile
Any ideas?

[jade patrol]

@pale kettle sometimes you just have to wait and level

[worn pilot]

Closer!

[sour pond]

For everybody struggling with misty valley stage 11 - where you need to kill frontline first , this comp did it for me after 2 tries

[flat pebble]

@wicked gazelle do u have skriath 3/3? that would solve the problem

[wicked gazelle]

Sadly no 😔

[flat pebble]

merc?

if u want to, add me, i have skriath

[wicked gazelle]

Completely forgot I could do that for a second lmao

What’s your ID?

[drifting hill]

Really need help with 3-team comps for PvE. I’m awful at this 😅

[jade patrol]

@wicked gazelle ainz and ezio in front twins top lyca bottom and eironn bottom

[tulip phoenix]

Help please

[little root]

Anyone got 33-12? Im tilted from these thane battles, especially the rowan is immune no matter what

[flat pebble]

@tulip phoenix eironn on 2 spot, nara on 3

[tulip phoenix]

I got it, stuck on a new stage xD

[flat pebble]

lol

send me your heroes

[sour pond]

I runned this comp pretty much all the time too XD its so good

Sometimes i had to swap ofc, but very rare

[tulip phoenix]

I was copying the comps people were using in front of me xD it works wonders at this point eiron just doesn’t do enough damage alone

[sour pond]

Yea daimon outdamages eironn totally he is such a beast

[final star]

Stuck here send help pls

[sour pond]

How did you get so far, im only 30-12 with crystal lvl 313 😦

[brave oriole]

@tulip phoenix if you want to daimon this, maybe use nara instead of eironn

[final star]

I spam retries and used yt

[tulip phoenix]

Ok I’ll give it a shot 👍

[sour pond]

I use yt much too but sometimes the comps dont work for me xd

[brave oriole]

Need some time to get good on setups

And deppends of how you geared your heroes, si, etc, not just the lvl

[sour pond]

Yea i too guess the gear is the reason too

[brave oriole]

@final star can't see, but do you have Arthur?

[final star]

Yes I do

[brave oriole]

@final star not sure how geared it is, but try
Ainz
Arthur
Rowan
Talene
Albedo

I would work hard to get albedo ainz si +20

Ainz bomb everything

[final star]

I'll give it a try, Ainz only +10 atm, Albedo +0

[tulip phoenix]

@brave oriole got it thank you 🙏

[brave oriole]

Well, make a priority their si to +20 and 3/3

@tulip phoenix np

@final star it's not necessary merc talene, can be Brutus or else there I guess

[final star]

alright will try to get them up but gear-wise my Ainz is very behind, only 1/4 faction gear

[sour pond]

Any ideas?

[final star]

@sour pond

[velvet mason]

Tips? I’m having trouble getting Ainz to ult twice, this is the closest I’ve gotten

[brave oriole]

@velvet mason can't see what Brutus it's doing there, try rosaline?

[sour pond]

Worked first try tyy my dear

[final star]

Dude your crystal and SIs are enough to go straight to 31/32

just need to know how to utilize them

[sour pond]

How do you want to know my SI‘s

[final star]

I looked from here, same as mine but with Fer +30, Saurus +30 and Ainz/Albedo +20 is very enough

[velvet mason]

@brave oriole That works a bit better with the faction bonus, but He still can’t quite ult twice and Rosa dies right away. Any other suggestions? My biggest issue is ferael

[mild geyser]

charm ferael

[sour pond]

How can you get insight in my team details?

[brave oriole]

@velvet mason you can use fawkes to remove ferael, or, nemora to charm

[sour pond]

[final star]

am haxer

[sour pond]

Did you look up my recent chats in discord or what do you mean by looking from here

[final star]

^

[brave oriole]

@sour pond the top left circles from faction, are diff at 0/10/20/30

[sour pond]

Ah ok ty very much a nice information

[final star]

@brave oriole Ainz&Albedo +20 first then Arthur?

[sour pond]

Its still very subtle so one needs good knowledge to differenct the sis

[brave oriole]

@final star yes, they all have to be +20,i usually put the faction gear on Arthur and Arthur front of ainz

[final star]

Sadly no dimensional gear on any of them

[mild geyser]

no ring = no si, just ring = +1, ring with 4 dots = +10, ring with fancier things = +20, ring with wings = +30

[sour pond]

Sb wants me to help utilizing my heros

[brave oriole]

@final star it takes some time. I m buying gear from a long time already, also, having an active guild, helps a lot with the guild coins

[mild geyser]

take thoran and nara out for tasi and lyca perhaps ferael for eironn

[brave oriole]

@sour pond maybe
Lyca
Eironn
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

[final star]

Ya my guild very active, soren almost daily; but im also focusing on gear for other carries atm

[brave oriole]

I would never buy for other than dims

There's drops and scrolls for the others

[final star]

Trying to get to chap 31 asap so I can stall for gear, 30% discount in guild

[brave oriole]

I think its 20 still

[final star]

Ya I meant buy stones

[mild geyser]

what crystal are you?

[brave oriole]

It's 30% on chap 33 if im not wrong

[final star]

Oh, 33

[brave oriole]

Yep,33, pushed my alts for this discount

[final star]

Drops you mean mythic trick? Also the scrolls are so rng-based, literally I never get what I need lol

[brave oriole]

@final star patience 😢, as about trick, I dunno how it works, my drops were fine always just playing

[final star]

Ah ty for the insight

[brave oriole]

I dunno what's rlly a must for the gear, eironn lyca tasi safiya gwyn rowan ferael Saurus ainz

[sour pond]

Thanks for your hints - still dissnt rework

[brave oriole]

And daimon ofc

[sour pond]

Btw - is there a possibility to kinda male presets for items?? Its kinda annoying to constantly swap gear one by one

[final star]

nope :(

[sour pond]

[brave oriole]

There is some short way to change the gear on the battlefield

If you keep tapped for a sec or two on the hero box

[sour pond]

Yea i already know this still ty but then i still need to switch them one by one bc other heroes are wearing it

[brave oriole]

Yeah, I know, boring

@sour pond it's easy for you to finish chap 30 atm, just use dims and rowan +lyca or talene

Like for this stage,
Ainz
Arthur
Rowan
Talene
Albedo
Should work
If talene doesn't work great, Brutus to hold then for a while

[sour pond]

Ok i managed it with safiya comp but i will try Your comp for next stage now appreciate your help 😇

Will this work with legendary talene?

[brave oriole]

Yeah

Sometimes lyca sometimes talene and that is

Just move the heroes around, but Arthur always front of ainz

[sour pond]

You were right ty very kind

[final star]

with your heroes it's wayy too ez

[sour pond]

Maybe but still kinda annoying to retry the whole time and figure out comps that even have the chance to bring a win

[final star]

bruv i do thousands with comps that have a 5% chance

[pale kettle]

How are those in terms of HoE? Dim links are Ezio-Belinda, Albedo-Nemora, Arthur-Shemira, Ainz-Khasos. Feel like I don't need those heroes at all, but dunno, maybe meta in HoE is different to what regular PvP Is. Anyway, these are probably my best heroes still. Earlier I swapped Daimon and Ferael, cos I feel that the first team is getting all the juice.

[sour pond]

Im again stuck at 16 - tried eiron safiya - tried ainz albedo arthur rowan lyca/talene and even tried with joker 😭

[pale kettle]

There is my full roster.

[brave oriole]

@sour pond here you maybe need to pull safiya with nara or cc with athalia

Try without rowan
Albedo
Talene
Nara
Arthur
Ainz

[merry thunder]

@brave oriole u have any clue for this stage

[brave oriole]

@merry thunder you need a lower def in Rosa, so silvina attack Rosa.

[merry thunder]

So what formation should I use? I have tried it with rose @brave oriole

[brave oriole]

Well, with current heroes,
Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Rosa
Shemira

[merry thunder]

I don’t even kill one enemy that way haha

[brave oriole]

Don't tell me that your shem is full legendary items 😢

[merry thunder]

No she’s all mythic T1 😂

Or do u mean furniture? Ya I only have 2 mythics

[brave oriole]

Well, you should win, how it looked like, your team?

[brave oriole]

Maybe fawkes doesn't help much, try lyca front and daimon back

[merry thunder]

It’s the vedan that kills me, when he gets his Ult off

[brave oriole]

Use grace on shem, the shield helps

[autumn pulsar]

Any ideas?

[cerulean cedar]

i c a n t w i t h t h i s s t a g e

[tulip phoenix]

Not sure, but you seem like you’re stuck on fodder at the moment? 😵🤪

[brave oriole]

Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Lucius
Ainz
, restart if didn't charmed ferael@Foxka#1960

[pale kettle]

Try
Tasi
Ainz
Rowan
Brut
Lyca

[merry thunder]

@pale kettle same story, the vedan wipes me out

[shell sequoia]

Idk what the best options are

This is my main formation

Is there a better one?