lineup-help

[dreamy dust]

Tried eironn chicken (skreg always stayed alive at the end n stomp me) tried it with saurus lyca ferael tasi talene every possible combo but ezizth is fuckin me and skreg is not budging

[warm swan]

@dreamy dust Did it with this comp

[dreamy dust]

Nvm did with guess who
THE BOI LORSAN HAHA thx anyways man

[slender scroll]

Any suggestions on how I can beat this stage

[undone trench]

@warm swan 5 keys

[warm swan]

[slender scroll]

Ouch lol

[narrow lark]

Suggestions?

[summer cedar]

fera's not 221 yet so I'd put in albedo for him

[narrow lark]

I first Tried Albedo for around 20m and she didn't do the trick

[final star]

@stuck trellis which artifact do u usually use on safiya,v

[edgy musk]

Is it possible for my team to win? I coudlnt get the right formation

[hollow timber]

Just can't get enough damage out in time, kaz just rips through everyone

ive tried every configuration i can think of of those 5, also subbed in tasi (she wont banish most of the time), nemora (she NEVER charms anyone), numisu (the haste and totems aren't effective enough), and rosa on both daimon and ainz, neither of which did enough dmg in the end

[trail vine]

Can someone give me some advice im stuck on 15-40. It seems like my frontline no matter who I put gets killed very fast

The enemies

[stray jungle]

is your einronn geared enough? he's also good against GB in general (use faction bonuses if you can). Also, i think you're leveling weird. Why do you have levels 160/159/158?

[split peak]

Try shem brutus up front eironn mid lyca and tasi to the sides

[trail vine]

Currently what he has

[stray jungle]

well get SI+10

that might help and i think you're doing something funny with your resonating crystal. but i could be wrong

[trail vine]

I was just trying to get them to a similar level and they're stuck like that because no more exp atm

[sly ingot]

More efficient leveling of units would be beneficial

[stray jungle]

i thought you just level 5 heroes and drop the rest in crystal

[trail vine]

Crystal

[stray jungle]

oh heh. that's ok

should get to 160 for all cuz you get skill bonuses then focusing on shem.

[trail vine]

So should I reset my levels and only focus on a few? If so what level do I stop for the rest

[stray jungle]

then it's pretty much 160 all, shem at 200

if it costs diamonds, don't have to i think

[split peak]

Make sure to get yellow and red emblems any chance u get

Its never too early to start saving them up

[trail vine]

My bag

The big chest gives me options for red stones but didn't open yet because I wasn't sure what to prioritize

[split peak]

U dont need to open them bud they stay like that then when u upgrade a hero they will auto convert to the faction needed

[trail vine]

So something like this? What artifacts should go to which hero?

[pale kettle]

Tasi and Lyca were key for clearing 15 - 40
only at elite + and elite
for boss battles it can also help if you look up winning formations ingame ( there is a button )
I remember many players also use Arden for this

[sly ingot]

If that doesnt work try tasi frontline with brutus behind her and lyca top position

[pale kettle]

or Lucius instead of Shemira to help them stay alive , let Eironn finish them all off

[trail vine]

I dont have anymore fodder for wilders

[split peak]

Lucius will do zero he is super squishy at that stage in the game

[pale kettle]

ok, then any other tank. He also has Thoran even though at low ascension

[sly ingot]

You also need to read into fodder management as you've spent a lot of fodder on a wide range of units

[trail vine]

I assume the sword artifact will go best with eiron. Right?

Yeah I didn't think to look up guides until after I already got my first team stuck at legend

[split peak]

Call does pretty well with him depends what u need from him

[pale kettle]

what about putting Eironn on position 1 or 3 ? so he can pull shemira and knock her out fast before she can go havoc

[sly ingot]

With the fereal in this fight I think call would be better suited to shemira

But yeah in most situations call is great on eironn especially in PVP since it gives first pull

[coarse cradle]

Your carry (shem) should be 20-40 lvls higher than your other heroes

[split peak]

Oh yeah u guys dont have more than one spot on artifacts

[sly ingot]

He may have a second artifact for some of them but probably not call

[coarse cradle]

You can also try shem lyca rosa (or numisu) nem tasi

[trail vine]

I tried that formation and eiron sucks up the enemies and dies before he can do his ult

[sly ingot]

Give this one a go probably wont work but worth a shot.
Estrilda/Shemira Ainz/Numisu/Lucius

Might keep the ferael busy enough for shem to ult

[trail vine]

Like this?

[scarlet depot]

Help

[hollow timber]

Just can't get enough damage out in time, kaz just rips through everyone. ive tried every configuration i can think of of those 5, also subbed in tasi (she wont banish most of the time), nemora (she NEVER charms anyone), numisu (the haste and totems aren't effective enough), and rosa on both daimon and ainz, neither of which did enough dmg in the end. any ideas?

[sly ingot]

Bit busy to go through your heroes however you may need more cc

[hollow timber]

would joker or queen help out here, i tried ccing but it just doesnt go off half the time

[feral stag]

Advice on which ones I should focus on?

[narrow lark]

Try to build L+ Fodder heroes which can carry you until level 160. In the meantime try to get E+ copies of Eironn, Daimon or other solid heroes like Lyca, Rosa, Tasi etc.

[lean latch]

Should I take nara up to mythic given I only need 2 for ascend? I probably goofed on daimon ik. No ascended yet so I want to unlock hero choice still

[hollow timber]

id wait for another copy of daimon and make him mythic. he will hard carry you for quite some time

[lean latch]

I have ainz/bedo and am putting tokens into their SI if that makes a difference xander

[granite apex]

yo can I get some help? I am not sure what to do as most ppl advise running nara against athalia but my nara gets one shot every time(I tried 30+ times for rng) ping if you can help pls (for reference ainz is linked to my lucius, albedo to nemora, ezio to bel, and nakoruru to shem)

[astral jay]

@granite apex try this
Ainz
Rowan
Tasi
Talene
Rosalina

[hollow timber]

i have a mythic belinda that i linked my ainz to and use both ainz and daimon as carries, but thats cuz i happened to have enough fodder

[granite apex]

Alright I’ll try it

[celest sigil]

Is this team good? (Rowan is L+ now)

[astral jay]

@granite apex ainz with mage artifact rowan grace talene drape tasi call Rosa call

[hollow timber]

i dont think anyone knows what comps joker/queen are good in rn

[astral jay]

^

[granite apex]

I don’t have mage artifact

[celest sigil]

They work pretty well so far carried me through from ch14-16

[granite apex]

also

[astral jay]

@granite apex eye then or blade

@granite apex change Rosa and Tasi places

[celest sigil]

Level difference is too high?

[hollow timber]

im lvl 180 facing lvl 212s in campaign, the level gap keeps increasing

his power is actually almost half of the enemy team which is usually fine

[granite apex]

my tasis dodge is only 393 which is why she gets one shot I think

the one time he manages to ult

[granite apex]

^

I have ainz si at +26 btw

chat goes dead :(

[astral jay]

@granite apex try more time . Don't let Rosa die . Tasi should ult.

[granite apex]

uh hehe my Rosa is following my rowan... oops

so I may just have to wait now till I can get my ainz stronger :(

fuck even with all my bel’s t2 lb gear I’m still 20k short

well then

[stuck trellis]

blade

[granite apex]

fuck this I’m goin to bed

stupid fucking ainz doesn’t want to let me raise his combat rating 16k for Rosa to prioritize him over rowan

[astral jay]

@granite apex gear off rowan not all just for cómbat rating

[granite apex]

why tho I have never seen the point of it

[granite apex]

how do I gear him down?

[astral jay]

@granite apex change armor between rowan and ainz

[granite apex]

hm is there one piece that would be best for me to switch out?

[astral jay]

I said armor

[granite apex]

yes I’m aware

all three pieces besides staff are called “padded armor”

eh fuck it I’m tired of playing it over and over and not killing a single one I’m goin to bed

[narrow lark]

Stuck at 23-51. Any suggestions?

[astral jay]

@narrow lark try this
Farael
Albedo
Rowan
Lyca
Ainz

[narrow lark]

Alright 👍

[honest latch]

Is anyone able to help w this

[narrow lark]

Worked after a couple of retrys, thanks!

[narrow lark]

What other heroes you have?

[honest latch]

I have 2 free resonating crystal spots too

[narrow lark]

Try
Mirael, Brutus
Rose, Rowan, (Lyca)

I'd put Lyca in Res crystal

[honest latch]

Okay

Who should be in frontline?

[narrow lark]

Mirael and Brutus

[honest latch]

Mireal frontline?

[narrow lark]

Yeah, shes leveled above them so she can be frontlined and she'll get energy quicker

[honest latch]

That guy with the sythe just finishes everyone off

[floral trout]

https://imgur.com/a/vla9KNx
hero pool in album

shem has SI+15, either dies early or gets an ult off and does 0 damage, only to die shortly after

[shy crag]

Stuck, need help

[onyx ridge]

Any help with this? Been stuck for a day. Always close, but most of the time 2 enemies left standing cos Ainz only has 1 ulti without the charge :(

[floral trout]

@onyx ridge my go-to team around that stage was estrilda and lucious front, belinda rowan rosaline back, if that doesn't work substitute rosaline with fawks.
the trick is with estrilda pushing the enemy frontline back for belinda to AoE them

[urban olive]

Can someone help with this stage?

[onyx ridge]

@floral trout ah thank you :)

[shy crag]

@urban olive i may be new to this game, but i dont see anyone in your team comp that can deal enough damage to kill them all, someone like Saveas

[honest latch]

Isnt daimon a carry?

[torpid stirrup]

Who to stargaze next?

[undone iron]

Which unit do I max out first as the carry?

[urban olive]

Oh ok

[pale lagoon]

@onyx ridge try ainz behind Brutus:
Ainz

Brutus
Rowan
Rosaline
Lyca

Flip if needed

@undone iron wukong is best carry until level 100. Then mirael or saveas until 160. Use redemption codes as well

[pale lagoon]

If you are new please try not to give misguiding help. I know you are trying to be helpful, however, so don't feel bad please! Saveas is an Legendary tier hero, meaning he can only be leveled until level 160. After that, shemira or daimon are strong carries. Daimon is strong forever basically, while shemira tends to fall off around ch 23.

@urban olive switch daimon onto the other side, try using tasi instead of Fawkes. Daimon can be charmed there, lowering his DMG output. If that doesn't work (because daimon gets bursted), put Brutus in front of daimon, and Rosaline on the other side:
Daimon

Brutus/Rosaline
Rowan
Rosaline/Brutus
Tasi

@shy crag try:
Fawkes (if coffins mirael) /Tasi (if not)/Nemora (if charms mirael)

Brutus
Shemira
Talene
Lucius

[dim sequoia]

Helps pls

[pale lagoon]

@dim sequoia post all Heroes please. Where tf is your damage usually when you don't have queen...

@floral trout does Lucius shield if in front of Arden?

[dim sequoia]

I'm actually so unlucky on pulls

[pale lagoon]

Ur account is pretty screwed ngl... 1) dont make L Heroes anymore

[dim sequoia]

Sadge

I got back to back silas

[pale lagoon]

2. take farael, numisu, Raine out of crystal. And ulmus

Yeah you wasted a lot of fodder...

This is rough to look at I ain't gonna lie

[dim sequoia]

Sadge

Ulmus is linked to queen

Only reason. He's legendary

And wukong was my dmg until queen dropped

[pale lagoon]

Oh k. Try:
Belinda

Estrilda/the mauler guy (forget his name)/Queen or Joker
Rowan
Rosaline
Tasi/Silas

(estrilda Rosaline frontline)

[vocal kettle]

Hi, any suggestions?
I get only 28 keys:

[floral trout]

No, he sometimes survives past the initial burst of damage but his energy is way off and shemira is already dead by then

[pale lagoon]

@floral trout nemora keeps failing to charm right? Try:
Lucius

Brutus
Rowan
Shemira/Rosaline
Rosaline/Shemira

If doesn't work try flippin it

[urban olive]

Tried this but still no luck, someone phases Daimon out, he becomes green unable to act and by the time it ends everyone is dead so it's 1v5 for Daimon

[pale kettle]

Been stuck here for more than 6 months now

Hi are joker and queen any good?

[deep ice]

Last stage sooooo frustrating

[quasi axle]

[22-15] Been stuck here for a day, was wondering if someone could coach me

[onyx ridge]

@pale lagoon Ainz still getting only 1 ult leaving estrilda alive always :(

[deep ice]

Shinobi can you help me whit mine you past the stage where im stuck at

[quasi axle]

@deep ice I can try lol. I’m not too good myself.

[thin canopy]

halp. who do I keep and who to use as fodder. should I doubledown now on graveborn?

[cyan solar]

raine and belinda do massive damage, and warek kinda screws over eironn and joker

[quasi axle]

Have you tried using queen to lockout the back row? Joker should also trigger off of queen 🤷🏽‍♂️

[cyan solar]

hm, how should i place queen?

[quasi axle]

Maybe try in place of safiya? And then try switching Eironn and Rowan. I’m not sure, just something to try. Queen has been helping me a lot and I think she’s even better with joker (whom I do not have)

[cyan solar]

eironn is linked to queen

[manic breach]

Guys help me, Silvinia is stupid this chaoter and always strikes my Solise amd my team remains defenseless, what should I do to combat her ?

[haughty swift]

Current Team (Top)
Roster atm( Bottom)
Anyone or anything I should change?

[slender scroll]

Any suggestions on how to beat this stage

[brave oriole]

@slender scroll shemira should work better, shem and Rosa front where ainz Brutus are

Fawkes
Lucius call
Rowan
Rosa
Shem

Or
Lucius call
Lyca
Rowan
Rosa
Shem

[slender scroll]

@brave oriole that team gets wiped out in 8 seconds

[manic breach]

@haughty swift
I am not an expert, but have you though about leveling up Tasi ? You already have 3 copies, that's good

[haughty swift]

Hmm I never thought of leveling up Tasi

[slender scroll]

Tasi is amazing

[manic breach]

She is one of the best heroes in game
Especially late-game, but also early-game
She makes all the enemies sleep, she saves herself by teleportation and also banishes the enemy and has a cute butterfly which can actually kill & heal
She is my personal favorite hero in this game

[haughty swift]

Hmm okay i see

[barren thistle]

Guys team suggestion for clearing story

[haughty swift]

@manic breach I have resources that I can put into her, should I do it?

[pale kettle]

Stuck at 20-60 Help would be appreciated :)

[manic breach]

It's harder for you to have resources now, but it should be easier after you play a few days

Also, yes, do it

[pale kettle]

@icy plume thanks. Didn't work at first but then I switched Rowan and Daimon and beat it

[errant wing]

Hey everyone! I just started playing yesterday because of the persona 5 collab. Im looking for a team that will carry me at least through the early-mid game. This is what i currently got. Is it good or does it need improvements. I based myself upon tierlists and combining same realm

[wide gust]

help help im stuck so bad

[warm swan]

@errant wing Might I suggest you read the beginners' guide pinned on questions. Tierlists are somewhat tricky to use since they are not mostly applicable to early game. Also, welcome to the game!

[errant wing]

Alright i will. Thnks!

[wide gust]

sure why not m8

u are lvl 111 right?

then ive sent the request

indeed

tho u had more lvls then me u had base of 200 and daimon at 240 but ill try the same formation anyway

u cant do 240x180 u have to have everyone 200 to take daimon to 240

thats why i didnt do so myself

well thats what im doing and hope i can pass it somehow

[wooden gorge]

Can anyone help,Im stuck on this one

[normal stratus]

Hi, can anyone help me, i loose because I take too much time, thx

[warm swan]

@normal stratus You are making too many L heroes. You're gonna have trouble later on. And your carry should be over-levelled than the rest of your line-up. For that stage, I would've suggested a Bel+Rosa combo but seeing that your Bel is underleveled, it will not be possible. Another thing I noticed, you have more than 5 heroes that are leveled. I'm sorry if I'm just pointing out the mistakes, but these are the things that slow down your progress.

[normal stratus]

Thanks for your help, that gonna help me a lot

[chrome onyx]

What's should i go for Carry im stuck on stage 9

[atomic marten]

I've tried every possible lineup combination but I am not even close to beat that, anyone already beat it ? 🤔
I have +30 Talene Ferael Gwyneth Lucius Rowan Saurus

[pale kettle]

Por favor help

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle have you tried to pull Khasos with call on eironn? But you need eironn tasi front

[atomic marten]

Tasi opposite to Nara, Eironn prolly backrow middle and Lyca front, also Fera can help

[warm swan]

@chrome onyx Mirael or Saveas.

[sand breach]

Any tips to beat this lvl?

[pale kettle]

I also need help

[silver cedar]

I think my team is too weak lol

[pale kettle]

need a line up for the forsaken winter boss fight

[vale quiver]

Seriously need help been stuck here for a long time now and it's getting frustrating

[pale kettle]

need a lineup for forsaken winter boss fight

[past urchin]

Eironn
AoE nuker(Ainz)
Rowan
Lucius
Rosa
@pale kettle
Have you tried something like that?

[pale kettle]

replace the lucious with the elite twins. try put your nemora/belinda/shemira gear on her and use the comp @past urchin said

[past urchin]

Or that :)

[pale kettle]

ive tried it but with eironn in the position of rosa, only manages to kill niru @past urchin, aite @pale kettle

[charred ermine]

is that the 3 bosses one?

[pale kettle]

yeah

[pale kettle]

use eironn comp
ferael eironn lyca middle ferael
front line rowan tasi. will take 1-50 retries

[past urchin]

I havent tried Ainz myself.
No +30 on mine...Im not sure he can pull it off with his ult channel downtime after the instant ones.

[silver cedar]

Ainz is really nice

[pale kettle]

i have belinda built if that helps

[silver cedar]

but my absolute fav is nakoruru

[past urchin]

But hey, you have infinite tries.
Just play around and see what makes the cut ;)

[pale kettle]

try investing in a +30 saurus. you kill all the bosses in 20-30 seconds with him

[charred ermine]

try finding someone to replace daimon. Shem works well

[pale kettle]

was planning to +30ing ainz/eironn, dont see saurus with that much if a use other than guild hunt tbh

[stone sail]

I need help with them :3

[pale kettle]

Been stuck for more than 6 months now

[past urchin]

Mine is as crap as yours @pale kettle xD
I just merc one.
And I prioritized Eironn and Lyca over him.

[pale kettle]

dont have estrilda built rip

[stone sail]

Lucius, Rosalie, Tasi, Rowan, Belinda @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Use eironn to replace talene to counter eironn. replace brutus with rosaline and put gwenyth where eironn is

[pale kettle]

The other eiron counters mine

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle
Lyca
Tasi
Eironn
Rowan
Ferael

[pale kettle]

it shouldn't try putting him in the front/middle/ where talene is he should pull the enemy eironn before yours. if that doesn't work try also adding a lyca instead rosaline

[pale kettle]

take your daimon M if possible and take him +20 he is gonna carry you long way
for now try replacing thoran with ferael

[stone sail]

@pale kettle thx worked

[vale quiver]

Did it with this formation in the end

[cinder robin]

Any tips regarding strong heroes I don't use or good comp?

[past urchin]

Read the pins in #classic-questions
@cinder robin
Dont upgrade ascended tier heroes to L if you cant make them L+
You can get away with Shemira as she is easily obtainable, but chances are you will wait for that Lucius quite a bit.

[undone iron]

Should I use waukong or saveas to carry me to 160?

[past urchin]

Saveas or Mirael.

[cinder robin]

Thank you @past urchin :)

[undone iron]

Ok thx

[past urchin]

Saveas will be better if you pulled strong crowd control heroes (Tasi).
Mirael is a walking ult so she typically needs Rosaline.
@undone iron

[mellow kestrel]

anyone finished this stage can show me his team

[foggy fox]

I can use all Heros. I only want to beat this stage

[past urchin]

Id try Eironn mid, Rowan front bottom, Nemora back bottom.
Repeat untill she charms Ferael.
Then he haunts his own team and then you likely win.

[mortal crag]

Can I get some help with a arena team

[raw niche]

Thane keeps inserting his rapier in my booty hole. Help...

[pale kettle]

any units i should use to help with 6-40 or is this teamcomp fine

[frosty spindle]

Help

[warm swan]

@frosty spindle What relics do you have on them?

[warm swan]

Switch Lyca and Saf. And maybe eye on Lyca, call on Eironn.

[vernal berry]

Help the cecilia just wont die

[frosty spindle]

Thanks

[cyan solar]

any idea on how to deal with this? saveas kills everyone and everyhthing, and arden does arden thing

[compact breach]

I need help. It is my first stage with 5 teams. Who can I use here? I can request any mercenary of a very good level since I have very good friends. What hero could defeat this enemy formation alone? (Well, with the support of Rowan and those you see who are available)

[idle marlin]

Can anyone help me?

[raw niche]

Feeling a bit stuck here.... LMAO

[polar sparrow]

Any ideas?

[pale lagoon]

@errant wing try to get wukong from the Facebook share event. Then you should use him as your carry (level him highest)
Wukong

Rosaline
Nemora
Brutus
Arden?

Use redemption codes and summon for lightbearers with faction scrolls. Set your wishlist using the guide in #classic-questions!

@idle marlin try switching Cecilia for Rosaline and then swap Rosaline and ainz.

[topaz rain]

Any ideas on how to kill the backline first?

[pale lagoon]

@cyan solar try Nara on Arden, eirron where joker is. I think I did this 2 days ago with:
Brutus

Talene
Rowan
Albedo
Ainz

[cyan solar]

i passed it

[pale lagoon]

GZ!

[cyan solar]

required some luck haha

[pale lagoon]

Yep haha

[autumn pulsar]

Tips?

[errant wing]

I want to use joker tho! Any team with him? Anyone else is open for me. Currently he's serving as my dps. I just changed my wishlist and sadly already used all faction scrolls

[cerulean bloom]

Can anyone tell me what should i use as my backline

[slender scroll]

@errant wing too soon to tell a good team with him just have to figure out who works well with him and such bud

[robust forum]

How can I get past here, I need those Stargazer cards!!

[cunning topaz]

Anyone have a thought on which is better for a defensive team in LC, first or second?

[scarlet depot]

Help pls

[pale kettle]

Any tips? This comp is very scuffed but it got me thru all of 21
problem here is by the time eironn kills the 3 bottom shemira ults and deletes everyone, he can't pull in pos1. Lucius and albedo are completely useless here too

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle usually Brutus tank well shem

[narrow lark]

@pale kettle I was stuck there with the same ascensions. I passed it but using

1. Ainz
2. Lyca
3. Rowan
4. Tasi
5. Nemora

[pale kettle]

@brave oriole brutus is E only :d
@narrow lark haven't tried ainz in that spot, I'll try now

[strong pebble]

Any suggestions for this enemy?

[narrow lark]

Try
Belinda, Brutus
Rosa, Nemora, Lyca

[pale lagoon]

@strong pebble try:
Lucius (if doesn't shield use Rosaline)

Brutus
Nemora (has to charm farael)
Rowan
Belinda

[narrow lark]

And dont make legendary units unless you can make them L+ as well 👍

[honest latch]

Im hardstuck here if anyone can help that would be huge thanks

[narrow lark]

Brutus, Rowan
Nara, Mirael, Lyca

[pale kettle]

@honest latch lvl ur main hero 20/40 lvl over all

[honest latch]

Yeah i got stuck there bc of the elite+ max

[pale kettle]

@honest latch u can lvl mirael ob 140 u cant?

[strong pebble]

Everything is insta-dying pretty much x.x

[honest latch]

Need dust

[pale kettle]

nara/lyca/Tasi
Lucius or Brutus
rowan
Saurus
Belinda
@Illya#0001

[strong pebble]

Everything is insta-dying still other than Belinda

[pale kettle]

Brutus cant insta dying

[strong pebble]

He's dying quickly too, just not insta-dying

[pale kettle]

Nara/Lyca
Lucius
rowan
Brutus
Belinda

[strong pebble]

Nada

I think that's as far as I can do unless I get better characters

[pale kettle]

idk from power all fine. but ur heros not rly high. my belinda was in chap 13 acedend😅

u take all codes or?

[strong pebble]

I believe so?

[pale kettle]

well so idk sorry

[strong pebble]

Yeah I have

[obtuse harness]

Hi, who would I be using for campaign? Unsure of how setups.

[brave oriole]

@strong pebble rowan should be back of Belinda, nemora middle. Try
Fawkes
Brutus
Nemora
Belinda
Rowan
Restart if nemora didn't charmed ferael

[rich ruin]

Any suggestions?

[proud otter]

I want to increase my resonating crystal level. I'm stuck at 140 because I don't have any more L+. Who should I get to L+? I was hoping to get lucius or a tank but they feel hard to get. I'm also not sure if I should use another lightbringer. I have also considered getting queen (p2w) but idk...

[rich ruin]

Prob Shemira bcz you already have 3 lb L+ and you will get mor shemira copies

[strong pebble]

OMG I just swapped Brutus and Belinda, and did it 30 or so tries and FINALLY managed to beat it. Thank you so much

[rain zinc]

Should I change the lineup up? I also can get a new dimensional hero for 14.99 so would/should he replace someone in my current setup?

[brave oriole]

@rain zinc from exp, it's better that Arthur to be front of ainz, and maybe lyca front oof albedo, you need the haste anyway, and it's better to get ainz to 220, then the others to 200,so maybe reset someone to push ainz lvl

[thorny yacht]

this comp has been going crazy 4 me <3 it’s so good

[sand breach]

Any tips to best this lvl?

Beat*^

[proud otter]

Thanks!

[versed anvil]

i need help trying to pick which is good for tower

[rich ruin]

Use Lucius and Fawkes, but stop levelling more than 5 heroes, you're wasting dust and exp @versed anvil

[narrow lark]

Dont make L heroes if you cant make them L+. If you havent seen them, check the pins in #classic-questions

[robust forum]

Could someone please help me with this floor?

[pale kettle]

Nara
Thoran/Izold
Ferael
Shemira/Izold
Daimon
idk try that @robust forum

[robust forum]

Thanks, I’ll give it a shot!

[pale kettle]

Daimon with call i think
Ferael attack speed/dodge

[slim sedge]

Could anyone help me identify who I should be focusing on to help me get through the campaign

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions @slim sedge

[slim sedge]

Ok thank you @pale kettle I didnt see that

[slender scroll]

How can I beat this?

[pale kettle]

Belinda
Rosa
rowan
Lucius
Lyca/Nara
@slender scroll

[slender scroll]

Dies is like 5 seconds

[pale kettle]

Rosa run to belinda?
Lucius (vitality/Call)
Rosa Attack speed
belinda call/blade
rowan call
?

[slender scroll]

Rosa runs to lyca

[pale kettle]

put some amor out so that rosa run to belinda

[slender scroll]

They last 10 seconds 😢

[pale kettle]

did lucius ult? if not give him call

[slender scroll]

He didn't

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle all heros pls

Ainz albedo useless

[slender scroll]

They get wiped before he can use his shield

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle

That's some beast sarus. Ok thanks

Belinda
rowan
Nara
Rosa (run to Belinda)
Lyca
maybe that @slender scroll

What artifact u use on feral?

[slender scroll]

Na I think it's just out of reach

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle I think attack speed

[slender scroll]

The difficulty curve is crazy but not much I can do till I can lvl up more

[pale kettle]

Ainz
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus/Talene/Lyca
Rosa( run to Ainz)
@slender scroll

[sand breach]

Any tips?

[slender scroll]

@pale kettle Rosa makes it to Rowen and the team dies

[pale kettle]

try maybe swap Rosa and Eiron and Lyca and Tasi but not rly idk @sand breach

U wanna tell me - rosa run to mystic rowan and not to Ac ainz sl 30 2 stars? @slender scroll

[slender scroll]

No she makes it to Rowen and the team wipes

[pale kettle]

Ok i didnt have top sarus but daimon worked. Thanks for the hint

Ur welcome @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

I didt tell u this lineup - I never would use Ainz frontlane

[slender scroll]

@pale kettle that was an old attempt

[pale kettle]

shows better

Ainz
Lucius
rowan
Lyca
Tasi

@pale kettle ill need ur 30-44 too

@pale kettle

[slender scroll]

@pale kettle

Maybe after the reset I can pull another tasi and ascend her

[pale kettle]

Ok that sarus is a damn carry haha

Swap lucius out for Brutus @slender scroll

@pale kettle its just sl30 9/9 and 2 or 3 furniture +1

[slender scroll]

@pale kettle swap Rosa back in over tasi?

[pale kettle]

u can try

else swap heros up to down and down to up

[slender scroll]

@pale kettle my best attempt ainz was able to pop out two ults

[pale kettle]

try swapping lyca and brutus also

[slender scroll]

That swap is a step back

[pale kettle]

okay.. did tasi ult

[slender scroll]

No she either gets one shot or can only get a banish off

[little root]

anyone got 32-16?

[autumn pulsar]

Ideas?

[slender scroll]

@pale kettle should I make tasi's si+10?

[pale kettle]

@little root

@slender scroll thats not the problem. try ur hero list to swap.tasi to any else maybe something works

[little root]

ty

[pale kettle]

idk try joker oder the other one , or saf .... maybe something works or Talene^^

[slender scroll]

Albedo did it, thank you so very much for your help 😊

[pale kettle]

after feeling 2 hours. gz!

[slender scroll]

Thank you!

[pale kettle]

Lyca/tasi
Brutus
Ferael
rowan
Daimon
maybe @icy plume but power diff. is rly high^^

u mean niru?^^

[slender scroll]

Chapter 25! And 60 faction scrolls to use now!

[pale kettle]

Ferael
Brutus
rowan
Daimon
Tasi/lyca

nice to hear @slender scroll good luck

[slender scroll]

Thanks I'm waiting for wilders Tonight to use them

[stuck trellis]

@little root

[little root]

I got it, now im hardstuck on 32-19 😅

[stuck trellis]

[rain zinc]

Any dimensional heroes I should get to replace Rowan or Lyca?

[little root]

@stuck trellis what artifact did lyca and tasi had?

[stuck trellis]

daimon tasi call, lyca fera eye, rowan chalice

[little root]

kk ty

Yay got it, thanks again!

[tepid holly]

Could use some help

[pale kettle]

Are the persona 5 characters worth buying?

[tepid holly]

My opinion, nah

[narrow lark]

They limited time so 100p

[pale kettle]

Ty I just started and missed previous characters

[narrow lark]

Yeah I'd say they are just because the only dimensional who's been rereleased is Arthur

[pale kettle]

Plus they are 85% off and loved persona 5 😁

[weak breach]

what teamcomp should i make

[autumn pulsar]

Am stuck

[pale monolith]

Daimon Gwyneth Lucius Rowanand Safyia are good

[weak breach]

who should i max as a carry?

[pale lagoon]

@weak breach depends what your level is/who you have. upload heroes

oh. i would use wukong for now @weak breach

[weak breach]

ok ty

[pale lagoon]

@autumn pulsar does lucius shield?

[weak breach]

should i use my diamonds for resets?

[pale lagoon]

i would use:
Shemira

Lucius/Brutus (if no shield)
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi
@autumn pulsar

[neat lion]

I’ve been running Lucius with Mira/Arden(?)/Rosaline/Daimon but he’s been squishy lately since I haven’t been able to ascend him. Which hero should I use as replacement for now?

[pale lagoon]

squishy as in he can't shield before he dies?

[neat lion]

Yep.

[pale lagoon]

usually we substitute brutus for lucius when lucius dies. if his shield is needed you can put him behind brutus so he can get his ability off that makes him take less dmg and gain energy. Also, work on leveling your carry first, then work on other people (i see you have 1 E copy of mirael left, gj)

[vital kernel]

Ideally you'd make 5 legendary+ fodder so you can get up to level 160 on your crystal

Especially if you can't get the 4th copy of daimon any time soon

[keen venture]

Hard stuck...any tips? Or am I just underpowered for it lol

[vital kernel]

Just keep trying with daimon, push him to 180 instead of belinda

[fossil solar]

Anyone good at pvp? I need help building my three teams

[vital kernel]

Sorry lineups are actually my worst part past the first team

[neat lion]

@vital kernel @pale lagoon 🙏

[vital kernel]

Hope that helps, I know building fodder first sounds backwards but I promise it's beneficial @neat lion

[neat lion]

I’m following this image right here. Can I use the heroes from the Wishlist area as Fodder to ascend the heroes in the Ascensions area to Legendary+ or do I wait until I get other heroes not in the Wishlist area to use as Fodder? @vital kernel

[edgy musk]

Is it possible for me to win this one?

[vital kernel]

No absolutely do not fodder ascended tier heroes at any point @neat lion

[neat lion]

What are Ascended tier heroes?

Would they be the heroes that have 4 Abilities?

[autumn pulsar]

yeah he can get his shield off but not before everyone else dies unfortunately

[proven thunder]

hey guys, I just came back from a super long break, what is the general meta right now? what should I do with my current set up?

[hasty merlin]

Any help? Fawkes coffins the hypo mage

Arden lasts about two seconds against Silvina

No, thanks for the suggestion. I’ll just level for a bit

[wraith salmon]

I still Still havent gotten a responce from anyone

[hasty merlin]

Actually, that’s a good point. I’ve been abusing him a bit for Belinda’s ult, but he may not be useful. Silv would go for Rowan in that lineup

Thanks, will do

[supple hemlock]

Anyone know how to deal with the farael, its not even a boss battle but his ghosts and damage are unreal

[subtle inlet]

Got this today what to connect with?

[supple hemlock]

Thanks, will give it a shot

[granite apex]

really depends on which dimensional

[subtle inlet]

Aurther

[granite apex]

put him with someone who isn’t used in the normal Arthur/gwyn comp or any counter heroes like nara

like maybe saf or fereal

yknow what I mean

[subtle inlet]

But I heard that in multifights If I have aurther then I won't be able to use fereaor safya anywhere

[granite apex]

what level are you on?

[granite apex]

then maybe fawkes ig?

[subtle inlet]

These are all my heros

[supple hemlock]

@icy plume Nope, she doesn't charm anything at I get wiped out in 10 sec xd

[nocturne furnace]

Any ideas?

[granite apex]

I’d say fawkes then bc he is the least used hero in multi fights there

[subtle inlet]

K

[pale lagoon]

@proven thunder just came back a couple weeks ago, meta is relatively the same as 7 months ago, however daimon is top DPS. if you left before saurus, hes super good for hunts. Furniture made lots of heroes better/worse

[fossil solar]

Anyone here good with pvp lineups?

[flat narwhal]

I am just completley stuck and need help

Stuck for couple of days and have no idea how to progress

[honest socket]

Is it even possible to win this stage with my team?

[flat narwhal]

Need help, I am stuck at this stage for couple of days already

[nimble fossil]

Who can I use here?

[wide oxide]

I’m pretty new and just wondering who I should invest in

[pale kettle]

Kings Tower 365 is kicking my butt. Daimon comp fails me, as does Eironn. Any suggestions would be welcomed.

[iron tree]

Who should I get from winter warriors ?

[pale kettle]

Belinda can be your carry for now, but eventually try to get Eironn and focus on him with Lyca and Tasi

[pale kettle]

WuKong is the only correct choice. Free celestial is always priority.

[wide oxide]

gotcha, thanks!

[dry blaze]

Which heros use in dismal?

[golden marsh]

is there any counter to ferael?

[solid yacht]

Please, please, please. I need help with a lineup for forsaken winter. 😢

[dry blaze]

Nara, eironn, satrana, athalia,cecilia

[velvet belfry]

nemora as well

[golden marsh]

does it still work if my nara or nemora is 40 levels underleveled

[velvet belfry]

if she doesnt die instantly, and gets the charm off, nemora can still work

nara probably not if shes just gonna die before she starts her stunlock combo

though nara can probably still work if the rest of your team is good

levels hardly matter, power rating and smart composition is usually the best metric

[golden marsh]

ohhh i see

[shadow jay]

Hey guys - I am currently stuck on 8-8 and have tried numerous comps. My resonator is about to have its slots off cooldown - any advice on a core 5 to level as a team so I can make better choices for the resonator?

[nimble fossil]

Sooo, is there any formation I can use?

[dreamy dust]

@nimble fossil u are overleveled, should do it with daimon rowan saurus ferael eironn/tasi

@shadow jay check guides in pinned in #classic-questions

[shadow jay]

@dreamy dust Ohh thank you - didn't notice those.

[dreamy dust]

np

[solid yacht]

Can someone help me with the formation I posted above? I’m trying to get 60 keys or somewhere above 30 at the very least...

[flat narwhal]

Need help, I am stuck at this stage for couple of days already

[faint current]

@hard forge Lucius/Brutus/Ainz/tasi/Fera is what I personally would do. If you can have Rosa instead of Brutus and if she follows Ainz that might be even better

I’m not great at formations so if someone else has recommendations don’t force mine.

[hard forge]

She does follow ainz actually, I’ll give that a go thank you

[faint current]

Np

[raw ice]

I'm a little low level I know, but I've been stuck on this stage longer than I'd like to be. Any thoughts?

[mild geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745485693572218933/794249768699297812/image0.png
im pretty sure thoran pops both brutus shields first life, dies, kills them with second life. I manualed it ezio didnt do anything also you want eironn to die immediately after suck

[pale kettle]

Thanks much. I’ll give it a go.

[flat narwhal]

Guys I really need help. I am hardstuck on this chapter and people told me to first get fodders to l+ and level them to 160. I started doing it(saevas is done), but I have no idea how to progress at this point with him as carry. I would really like to get some help since I havent gotten viable answer so far.

[solemn sonnet]

This is my current line up and it seems to work but im always looking for a good replacement for a f2p person.

[pale lagoon]

@solemn sonnet that is f2p?
also, dont take mirael any higher than L+ unless you get 6 more copies (3 more E+). shes not very good right now, and only purpose really is just as a dimensional hero link. Same kinda deal with Lucius... Focus your LB fodder into Rosaline or Rowan

[round kraken]

Guess I'm not getting any help

[solemn sonnet]

@pale lagoon everything i got is luck draw outside of Lucius who was a crate/draw. Also which one is mirael? I've looked through all my heroa and didn't see one matching that name.

[dreamy dust]

@flat narwhal keep overleveling saveas

[flat narwhal]

Whats the teamcomp I run him with? What I run now seems fing awful

@dreamy dust

[ocean wharf]

How's my lineup? Should I try and change anything?

[dreamy dust]

Well i mean u got no units basically lol
Once y get enough food get rowan to mythic then sig 30
Focus wilders on scrolls

[marsh nymph]

Help pls, I feel underleveled

[dreamy dust]

@ocean wharf thats not gonna work past lvl 100

[ocean wharf]

Wym

[dreamy dust]

Luc mortas wukong cap at lvl 100
U not gonna push past that if ur main heroes are stuck
Check guides in #questions (pinned)

@kiri#3018 maybe a lil since ur crystal aint 240 yet but its still doable given u got ainz and daimon

Wtf is this discord man why its aint pinging for shit
#classic-questions
@marsh nymph

[gray schooner]

is this stage doable for me at this level? what if I added another crystal hero

[dreamy dust]

Its doable when u dont put rowan in the corner

[flat narwhal]

What teamcomp should I uss

[dreamy dust]

@flat narwhal check guides in pinned #classic-questions

[gray schooner]

@dreamy dust the reason for that is that Ira targets him, and putting him elsewhere just gets her closer to other things which led to overall worse matchup. Swapping Bel and Lucius above (idk why I printscreened it at that lineup lol) is the best result I get from my testing

[dreamy dust]

And u have belinda on nara... @gray schooner

[flat narwhal]

@dreamy dust I did and they aint helping in this case..

[quiet tapir]

Idk how the line ups work

[dreamy dust]

@flat narwhal i said this

[ocean wharf]

@dreamy dust I changed my wishlist and immediately got an elite tasi, tysm for showing me that

[dreamy dust]

@gray schooner doesn't matter if whoever targets him
At least he is spreadin his potions more

@ocean wharf np dude

But to be fair its a hard stage for belinda anyways without proper support

[solemn sonnet]

I take it my line up i posted above is all over the damn place.

[ocean wharf]

Should I use 2 elite+ iras to get a legendary tasi?

[dreamy dust]

@ocean wharf u didn't read the guide did u
It says there never L heroes
Either E+ or L+ is the general rule

@quiet tapir what u need?

[ocean wharf]

Ok

[dreamy dust]

@ocean wharf btw u see what @quiet tapir is doin
Dont do that

Great example of ruining ur account

[solemn sonnet]

I fell into the same trap but I think there is hope for me :/ if I get lucky on some damn pulls

[high cradle]

Hm?

[dreamy dust]

20 heroes thar are stuck bcz no copies are available at either L or M+
Gonna take insane time to compensate

[ocean wharf]

This game is alot harder than i thought

[high cradle]

I hardly play so dont know much

[quiet tapir]

My heros aren't that good what should i get up to high lvl

[pale kettle]

Adding thoran did the trick. I used Talene, Thoran, Tasi, Rowan and Daimon

[dreamy dust]

@solemn sonnet ye dw ur are early af lol u gonna get those copies
But for the other dude his account is pretty much doomed besides he got ainz carry goin on for em

[pale kettle]

Thanks @mild geyser took three days but I got it!

[mild geyser]

congrats

[high cradle]

Im just confused

[dreamy dust]

@high cradle bruh just ask lmao
Sayin u are confused is confusing me

[quiet tapir]

What am i doing

[high cradle]

I have no ide

Idea*

[dreamy dust]

@quiet tapir u pretty much self destruct your account

[high cradle]

Hold up

[solemn sonnet]

@dreamy dust yeah im pretty much at a wall, just trying to build a team to keep pushing my account without having to reinvested every 5 fights in a new hero.

[quiet tapir]

How

[dreamy dust]

Gonna take a long ass time to come back from that lol
so many L heroes (not even good ones at that) and M+ which each need 4 copies
So u got only ainz to work with

[pale kettle]

You blew all your fodder making stuff legendary

spreading fodder into anything

[high cradle]

Ok

[quiet tapir]

Ik i been f2p and i did not have any luck with getting the same heros

[final star]

@stuck trellis 29-43 pls

[high cradle]

Did I mess up be honest?

Also ignore my profile picture I have problems

[pale kettle]

You want to just collect until you have four e+ of ascended tier heroes

wow ! you raise more then 5 heroes biggest mistake ever

[stuck trellis]

@final star https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Bu-0g1Hcm7f9I0xCxvRo-XjG_BIJoP_Q?usp=sharing

[high cradle]

Thank you I try my best at making mistakes

[stuck trellis]

@final star probably should have given this to u way sooner lol, forgot i even made that

[final star]

I was gonna ask for the entire collection so I didn't have to ping u every time lmaoooooo

[pale kettle]

reset everyone except you 5 highest tier
then bring up a L+ fodder of each faction
in the meantime you collect copies of ascended tier heroes

[high cradle]

Too much information

[pale kettle]

pretty simple ; )

[high cradle]

Sure :^

[dreamy dust]

Omg this fuckin discord man how is a screen of a box is nsfw

Whatever I'll dm u

[fossil solar]

Anyone here good with pvp? I need help building my formations

[pale kettle]

the team worked, thanks a lot bro!

[nimble hound]

anyone got 31-13 cheese solution

[stuck trellis]

@nimble hound show stage?

i didnt beat that stage using cheese but i might be able to help out

[nimble hound]

pls and thank you

[stuck trellis]

and u want to thoran cheese this one right

or are u fine with daimon?

[nimble hound]

anything to get me past

daimon not looking too hot tho

[summer cedar]

@nimble hound

[nimble hound]

ill give that a go thanks

[mild geyser]

Use mirael

[stuck trellis]

@nimble hound spent a while looking for a specific SS but coulndt find it i would try

fera
rowan
tasi
lyca
daimon

you dont want rowan in range of daimon because he will eat rowan mana potion. you want tasi to get that instead

[nimble hound]

thanks so much for looking for me

[nimble hound]

ah thats a good point, all this time ive been wanting daimon to eat mana potions 👀 ive been doing it wrong

[stuck trellis]

if you have skriath 3 then you can just turn your brain off and do

lyca
thoran
eironn
rowan
skriath

[latent sail]

@pale kettle put rowan in the middle.

[nimble hound]

oof unfortunately not 0/3 chicken furn after 2 months! thanks so much i will try the ferael daimon formation now

[latent sail]

.4 Nara needs some levels, can u add her to the reso xtal?

[stuck trellis]

@nimble hound or just standard thoran lineup, so something liek this (assuming ira gets tainted)

nara
thoran
eironn
rowan
lyca

[nimble hound]

i dont think i can use nara bc powercap 😦

[stuck trellis]

thoran ideally eats arden and ira ult while charging, and then he kills 4, then slaps the 1 hp ira and kills her

oh

[nimble hound]

oh he does taint ira!

[latent sail]

.4 u may want to post he team you're tying to beat, th team you're trying with and maybe some of the champs u have. i.e. screenshot the entire thing.

[nova chasm]

am i too low level for this?

[stuck trellis]

thats fine then, do this

eironn
thoran
saurus
rowan
lyca

[latent sail]

try with both

[stuck trellis]

eironn pulls arden, saurus just there for power. he can die instantly and it wont matter

[nimble hound]

oh cool thank you

[dreamy dust]

@nova chasm yes

[nova chasm]

damn too scrub for pot

[dreamy dust]

Belinda early game
Eironn mid game and above

[nimble hound]

oh rip ulmus hits the thoran from too far away

[stuck trellis]

instead of izold merc i would aim for a +20 daimon instead

[nimble hound]

guess i cant cheese this stage

[dreamy dust]

Generally speakin u will either use shemira or belinda past 160-till 240.lvls (if u dont get daimon or eironn copies)
Before that its saveas or mirael
After 160 its eironn izold daimon ainz ....etcccc@.4#5403

[stuck trellis]

just use proof tactics and u can cheese any stage

nah but seirously, this stage is definetly cheesable, but its probably easier to just fera daimon it

less thinking required

[nimble hound]

i cant cheese with my heroes bc of powercap haha

[stuck trellis]

yeah true

[dreamy dust]

Baby early game

[nimble hound]

but yeah defs looks cheesable

[dreamy dust]

After 240 lvls

[stuck trellis]

terms like mid game early game late gaem are super subjective, but id say ch 26ish is start of mid game

again though, SUPER subjective so you will get different answers

[dreamy dust]

Late is debatable
But ch30-31 is the start of late game

Also for these #classic-questions

(There is a guide in pinned)

Tasi lyca or some sort of support/healer buffer

[neon nova]

Anyone have a good/not weird 33-44 comp?

[stuck trellis]

@nimble hound by the way just out of curiosity, how close are you to power req when you use standard fera daimon team?

im curious about what level range power req is at now for ch 31

[nimble hound]

when i put in lyca my team power is just under 7800K

[neon nova]

Tysm

[stuck trellis]

damn, so power req is around lvl 283? something like that? interesting

[nimble hound]

i think the new powercap is around 20% of enemy power

[stuck trellis]

just means anybody not pushing at power req is overleveld now

[nimble hound]

hahaha

[stuck trellis]

that was because power req stopped people from pushing that hard though

im sure way more will appear now

but yeah u are pretty insane for pushing that hard

[nimble hound]

yeah and back in the days im pre sure they didnt have furnitures either so thats been helping me 😄

[stuck trellis]

definetly worthy of your name

[nimble hound]

thank you sir and thanks everyone for help. time to retry a billion times

[cosmic relic]

31-60 cleared, level 316, hope this helps ppl without thoran cheese / god comp 🙂 happy new year https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716768669262413824/794179922067193877/unknown.png

[nimble hound]

grats on finishing chapter 31!

[cosmic relic]

thx

[round kraken]

Need help with this one

[velvet mason]

Any suggestions on who to replace saveas with? I have two crystal spots open

I have all maulers either E or E+

[pale lagoon]

Happy new years noobs

[pale kettle]

@velvet mason I think I would early take the L+ heros from rank

[gray sleet]

Hello! I am 7 days in and still learning. I would love some advice on my comp.

[past urchin]

Read the guides pinned in #classic-questions
Dont upgrade ascended tier heroes to L if you cant make them L+ immediately.
It may take a while now to pull Rosalines/Lycas and the fodder is gone.
Doing this will get you a few stages faster, but it will set you back A LOT in the long run.

[scarlet depot]

Good lineup? I know i shouldnt upgrade to L

[velvet mason]

@pale kettle Sorry what do you mean?

[frail kraken]

First thing i will point out is ur sun; there is nothing wrong with using them but u will find it will limit your resonating crystal max lvl as celestials are not the easiest class of hero to acquire; i would swap its levels with belinda or gwyneth as they are far more common than sun to pull

[pale lagoon]

@gray sleet 1) dont make L heroes (i can post reason if u would like)
2) shemira only becomes strong at level 161 (as a raid boss carry)
3) I would use saveas or mirael for your carry, they are very strong until level 160 (cannot be upgraded further). mirael is better because you have rosaline though.
4) for mirael comp you can use:
Lucius

Lyca
Mirael
Rosaline
Ainz (link ainz to shemira, they are like polar opposites basically, so you wont be using both of them in the same team comp)

[scarlet depot]

What is Sun?

[pale lagoon]

Once Shemira is 161 she becomes a lot stronger because she heals based on her damage dealt with her fart cloud. Good shemira comp:
Arden (Grace/Drape)

Shemira (Blade/Drape)
Lyca (Eye)
Rosaline (Call/Grace)
Tasi (Eye/Grace/Call)

Nemora can replace any of the backline if you need to charm someone (shes very strong against Farael)

[pale lagoon]

I think he means your resonating crystal. eventually you won't be able to upgrade your top 5 heroes because wukong is a celestial and hard to ascend (to raise his level cap)

just reset wukong and level arden instead

[frail kraken]

Wu kong; he is a reference to the god sun wukong

[pale lagoon]

that big ball in the sky

|| thats a safiya nuke ||

[frail kraken]

Haha facts

[pale kettle]

@velvet mason ur L+ heros for the first stages into crystal

[tender mesa]

Can I get some help ty

[final star]

@stuck trellis thanks for the help chief, i am now once again asking for the ch 30 google drive

[nova quest]

Any help is much appreciated :D

[tired halo]

anyone think they can help me with this?
my elites are also quite good, so i could use them if necessary

[onyx ridge]

Any help? The estrildas been a pain :( Ainz only ever gets 1 ulti off

[charred ermine]

@onyx ridge have you tried placing him behind brutus

[quasi zealot]

;herotierlist

[tender mesa]

Can I get some help

[onyx ridge]

@charred ermine he dies even faster xd

[brave oriole]

@onyx ridge I would try Rosa front of ainz vs estrilda

[onyx ridge]

Ei I flipped the formation me after 13 tries it worked hahahaha

Stuck 3 stages later trynna get to 11-4 for the PoT xD. Everything dies (tried all heros I have) instantly except brutus and Ainz(1 ulti then dies right after). Do I just wait for higher lvls or is there secret combos I don't know of

Would thoran cheese work or would I need his SI or smt

[drowsy gazelle]

thoran cheese would only work if the enemy is significant more powerful than you i think. who does silvina aim? rowan or rosa

[dark juniper]

Need help with this

[timid sun]

anyone who can help me with 19-20?

[daring plank]

Hi guys,
Can you help me build a good team for early game.
I'm having trouble knowing which heroes to focus on and which team to put around. Thank you.

[vast meadow]

Daimon

[cerulean bloom]

Need help stuck at 8-16 what to have as a lineup

[pale kettle]

I just can't seem to. Deal enough damage. Even with Ainz. I honestly have no clue how to go about this stage

[topaz sandal]

Help pls

[compact breach]

I need help. It is my first stage with 5 teams. Who can I use here? I can request any mercenary of a very good level since I have very good friends. What hero could defeat this enemy formation alone? (Well, with the support of Rowan and those you see who are available)

[hazy phoenix]

try to swap rowan in i think he can be useful instead of fawkes @topaz sandal

[topaz sandal]

Ok ill try

[nova quest]

Help

[topaz sandal]

@hazy phoenix tysm it worked

[vast meadow]

Stuck. Only Mehira survives against the 3 Ainz ult

[vast meadow]

I’ll try it!

[vast meadow]

Worked like magic!!!Thank you so much!!

[rare karma]

Can someone help with F239 of the mauler tower please?

[sand breach]

Any tips to beat this lvl?

[mint viper]

Is this possible? Estrilda keeps blocking Nara's hook.. Tasi banishes Daimon everytime

[obtuse harness]

What team should I focus on for campaign? Working my way through chapter 9.

Stuck on 9-16

[pale monolith]

Daimon, Rowan, Brutus, Shemira, Belinda

[scarlet depot]

What team is better?

[stone holly]

some help´?

[pale kettle]

anyone got screenshots for 32-8

[forest cliff]

Any ideas? My team just dies after the pull

[idle marlin]

Is there a team I can make that has a chance against this?

[brave oriole]

@forest cliff maybe
Nara
Rowan
Eironn
Dunno about the up slots, tasi and lyca but check who and what

I see one of my accounts had the lineup
Safiya
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Lyca

But chalice in rowan surely, as about eironn try eye and call

[tepid holly]

Welp

[tepid holly]

Brutus blocks estrilda from hitting Nara

[mint viper]

Nah doesn't work.. Estrilda interrupts Nara anyway

[dull trellis]

Any suggestions?

[primal jasper]

@dull trellis tasi rowan shemira lucius nemora try, call on tasi

And put nemore in bottom

Some help needed

[dull trellis]

Like this? My nemora really bad tho

[primal jasper]

@dull trellis u just have to make sure ferael and belinda get ccd so u can survive to deal dmg

[blissful sequoia]

This stage has had me locked down for a week and a half now. I can't figure it out. Any help here?

[primal jasper]

@blissful sequoia I recon that silv locks down tasi or belinda? Vurk just spews u down aswell

[idle marlin]

Please help me🙏🥺

[normal stratus]

Can someone help me for this lvl? thx 😁

[primal jasper]

@idle marlin Lucius with call to stop estrilda from running ur team over, if hes still not fast enough use tasi aswell for extra haste

[vital kernel]

Lyca for haste right? Not tasi

[primal jasper]

@normal stratus u need to cc mirael or khados with arden or tasi with call

[vital kernel]

@normal stratus also please read the pinned comments in #classic-questions as you have already made a lot of legendary heroes and that's hurting your progress by quite a bit

[idle marlin]

Other than Lucius and lyca what else should I use?

[primal jasper]

Yes sorry lyca for haste :p

[normal stratus]

Ok thank for your advice

[proud edge]

The dreaded 27-52, who's got ideas?

[idle marlin]

I got it thanks to ainz

[limber raft]

is it better to put rowan in the back mid, or lyca?

[proud edge]

Depends on the lineup

[bleak hawk]

Any tips for this level?

[fossil solar]

@bleak hawk I beat it with this team

[bleak hawk]

Yee gonna need Daimon SI 20

[fossil solar]

Gotcha. I think you will be fine id you were to replace breutus with lyca and have tasi behind

[stone holly]

any suggestions?

[normal dove]

Can someone help me find a comp for this level

[stone holly]

nemora
tasi?
rowan
brutus
ainz

[normal dove]

Instant wipe out but ill try to give them better gear one sec

[proper tapir]

Hey guys I'm stuck in 20-58, I can get two shemira ults in this position but i still die

[stone holly]

use tasi not fawkes

pray her ulti saves u

[proper tapir]

aight cheers, ill give it a go

[fossil solar]

I am looking to make my team better with daimon as a carry. I heard eirron or fereal would help. Which one should I focus on to help?

[normal dove]

Ouch

[pale kettle]

This is my new account and I have one legendary plus I’m exited but I don’t know what to do next

[normal dove]

I’ve been told fereal is really good with daimon,

[stone holly]

oh ur ainz is +0 ._. okey....

[normal dove]

Yeah I only got the ascended shem and daimon recently

[unkempt field]

Need help with VW.

[vital pine]

Not sure how to progress

[stiff lintel]

Thoughts?

[earnest horizon]

Idk if i should upgrade someone and add them in

[hearty jackal]

Need good lineup for Forsaken Winter

[inner jolt]

Someone got an idea of great comp ?

[violet igloo]

Hi @inner jolt I recommend you read the guide pinned in this channel it'll help you a lot. Also the guides in #classic-questions are great too

[final star]

use Atha/Nara to cc mehira

[violet igloo]

@wide gust try and get a faction bonus. Also since you're already using Daimon as DPS (which is a good idea) you don't need Ferael. I would try :

Rosa
Daimon
Rowan
Talene
Lyca

Or

Tasi
Daimon
Rowan
Talene
Luca

See how that works

[wide gust]

Ok thanks I'll try

[rare umbra]

Can anyone help me pls

[limber raft]

Any advice for my lineup? Stuck at 5-28, enemy brutus wipes half my team with his ult lol

[fossil solar]

Can anyone help me best this level?

[narrow mural]

Help me to obtain wu Kong? Somone?

[summer cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/f8orxw/for_those_who_cant_figure_out_how_to_share/

[narrow mural]

Witch set up to use ?

[undone iron]

How to beat this boss?

[dreamy dust]

@fossil solar that lvl was essy for me with eironn

[rigid birch]

any recommendations to get passed this?

[summer cedar]

try brutus tasi saveas lyca nemora a few times

[cloud fossil]

any ss for 30-27?

[summer cedar]

#classic-chat message

[stuck trellis]

damn congrats

i havent made a ch 30 drive yet

ill do it sometime today or tommorrow tho

[glacial brook]

best mauler heros for tower?

[undone iron]

@summer cedar wow it worked thx man

[pale lagoon]

@glacial brook safiya, skreg, tidus, Brutus, numisu is pretty strong. Skriath is also strong with furniture!

[celest sigil]

Is Shemira better than Ainz?

[celest sigil]

Take ainz out and put joker in

[nocturne furnace]

Any help?

[graceful oyster]

my current lineup and all my heros, is there anything I should do to improve my lineup?

[brave oriole]

@nocturne furnace a vurk merc would help, as about safiya, if she cannot land the mantra, try call for

[hazy phoenix]

@nocturne furnace

[pale lagoon]

@graceful oyster 1) stop making L heroes (i can post the explanation if you need
2) Mirael/Saveas are best carries at your level.
As for lineups, for now I would use:
Fawkes

Lucius
Mirael
Rosaline (you can get a free copy from the event) / Tasi
Nemora/Estrilda

[fossil solar]

Why is my Brutus not showing up as ascended?!

[lapis shard]

Yo, got kinda a mess here. Should i get the crystal to 201 or get the Brutus to 240 first? Also, which signature items should i upgrade?(I use Shemi, Brutus, Tasi, Nemora and someone between Lyca for the Haste or Rowan for the heal, Lucius just dies too fast right now). Any advice for the comp in general is really appreciated 🐧 Thank you !

[subtle tendon]

Anyone have a great idea for lineup? I keep getting wiped. Sometimes 1 will survive long enough to ult

I don’t mind using mercenaries but they don’t make much of a difference as they usually die instantly as well

[brave oriole]

@subtle tendon maybe
Shem
Rosa
Rowan
Lyca
Lucius dura's call

But from experience, I'm telling you, you better lvl your heroes one by one to 240

[subtle tendon]

Like this?

[brave oriole]

Like, Lucius being 240 now would be hella diff, and yeah this

[subtle tendon]

Yeah I’m just trying to collect the dust for it. This formation seems to work decently as both Lucius and Shem gets their outs off but then they get instantly killed. Guess my level is just too low

[fossil solar]

@brave oriole are you any good at pvp lineups?

[brave oriole]

@subtle tendon I mean, to reset something tback to 200,and push Lucius to 240

@fossil solar not rlly, I'm having fun on pve mostly

[fossil solar]

Ok. Not worries mate

[subtle tendon]

Hmm I guess I could try that ty for advice

Damn it worked

Ty @brave oriole 👍

[brave oriole]

@subtle tendon np

[vapid field]

Help?
https://gyazo.com/883b54b130bc0df6152972acc9d42b92
https://gyazo.com/211ec50c069d3a63004130ce68692443

[brave oriole]

@vapid field usually work with Nemora to charm ferael, but i would keep using shemira for a while. Just shem 200 then 220,keep Lucius 180 until shem it's 220.

[vapid field]

I can't level up past 200 because I don't have 180 in crystal

[red inlet]

Hi
Just encountered zolrath
How the @#$! Do you beat him?
Thanks

[brave oriole]

I know, but when you will be able to. What I mean, right now, shem should be 200 and Lucius 180. A good team would be shem Lucius, Rosa rowan and fawkes lyca etc

[signal depot]

Returning player here. Can I get some help on a lineup?

[vapid field]

Is rowan good even at e+?

[brave oriole]

Yeah, middle Backline

Work to get him the next lb ascended

[vapid field]

I've been trying. I think the game just replaces all rowans with Luciuses for me tbh. Also, you think Shem is better than Ainz with +19w?

[brave oriole]

Honestly, I think she is cuz she can self heal etc, and she can Frontline. Ainz will be better, but later. Shemira right now, with some decent gear and Lucius , can easy push to chap 26

[vapid field]

Is her weapon worth investing?

[brave oriole]

Yeah, she must have a nice gear, so she can easy pass chapters. Usually I've used dura's grace for shem, I love that shield after ultimate, and Lucius dura's call . As about rowan by situation, chalice call etc. Rosaline also by situation, def or attack relics. Fawkes elite or lyca or else would be okay for 5th hero

Ainz is very good but you need a decent team, and gear, which costs some guild coins

Reset Lucius to 180,theb lvl shem to 200,then you can use by situation shem or ainz but rowan middle it's a must

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/5855abfd8c3dd3e617d8f26bf5aeb50b This is the best I can do for gear atm for shem/ainz

They're both 200 now actually

[pale kettle]

lyca
rowan
tasi
Saurus
Daimon or nemora
@Arten#6055

maybe swap tasi and rowan if not working

I think I need some help, I can reset some hero’s if it’s needed

[wise wigeon]

Best lineup for me?

[stone halo]

my frontline just dies

[vivid harbor]

Any tips? I've consistently gotten 60x keys everyday, but today the highest I could manage was 45x keys

[vivid harbor]

Nvm, I got it. But it took like 40 retries

[prime aurora]

Did you check the gear @vivid harbor ?

[vivid harbor]

Yea, but I don't have enough mage gear for the twins, so they kept dropping like flies.

[tawny birch]

Started yesterday so I’m super unaware of team comps, I’d prefer to have Queen in the team if possible

[split peak]

@tawny birch how in the hell do u have so much fodder if u started yesterday

[tawny birch]

i redeem a lot of the codes and used diamonds on 10 pulls

[modest robin]

any can help? i acnt pass 7-40 story my team its really squishi i think

[vivid harbor]

@tawny birch id auto ascend all that, lol. It's taking up quite a lot of space I imagine

[split peak]

Ok well make all that into r+ and ascend mirael to l or l+ make sure to not use ascended tier heroes in the process

@modest robin post a pic

[modest robin]

but i no have discord on my celphone

my team is: wukong nemora mirael lucius

strilda in this room its really strong

[split peak]

Download discord then not hard bud cant help u without knowing whats going on

[wet violet]

How do I pass this? @wispy tartan @summer cedar

[split peak]

@wet violet use lyca in that team and take out brutus

Use tasi or rowan up front

[wet violet]

The saveas 1 shot everyone if I do that

[split peak]

Well then u might just have to try rng beating it or lvl stuff up before retrying being stuck is a part of the game

[wispy tartan]

idk, you don't seem to have anything to counter tasi. I used my own tasi or nara but it doesn't look like you have them

[wet violet]

Does nara E+ work?

[wispy tartan]

yeah mine was only L+, just needs to get the first kick on tasi to prevent the banish

[split peak]

Bud tasi isnt the problem is saveas just one shots stuff

[wet violet]

Tks for the lyca idea bro I passed

[split peak]

U might need fawkes to coffin saveas

[wispy tartan]

brutus eats it for long enough for daimon to get rolling, unless tasi banishes daimon

[split peak]

@wet violet haha told u it works

[wispy tartan]

at least that was my experience

[wet violet]

I removed thoran instead

[wispy tartan]

also getting good gear on rowan is nice for saveas, basically makes him trivial once she can start tanking

[split peak]

Wait isnt rowan a boy lol

[wispy tartan]

but yeah, without +30 daimon really wants both lyca and rowan +30 if he can get it

uhh idk I justa ssumed a girl, longish hair and small

[wet violet]

Yeah my rowan is +29 rn

[split peak]

My man over here moving mad haha

[wispy tartan]

daimon is nuts

actually insane how fast he can push with the right positioning and support units

[split peak]

I didnt have daimon back then it was horrible

[wet violet]

What do yall think? @split peak @wispy tartan same problem this time and it seems like I lack dmg

[split peak]

Dont do lyca up front

[wispy tartan]

when I use brutus I almost always have daimon behind him so he gets the 50% dmg increase from the roar

and yeah lyca frontline is kinda bad most of the time outside of some eironn comps, it exposes your backline to dmg cause she starts the battle without running in. Depends on stage tho.

[wet violet]

Hmm tasi gets one shot so I have to use lyca, and idk how but if I place daimon behind brutus here he gets banished while if I place daimon on the other side he does not get banished lol

[split peak]

Put brutus in front of daimon then

Regardless ur hero lvls are lacking u will be stuck sooner rather than later

[vast meadow]

stuck with Mehira

[split peak]

@vast meadow get that ezizh out of there pls

[vast meadow]

Thanks!! Worked like magic!

[split peak]

Haha

[stone halo]

once lucius gets his ult its pretty much over, also top frontline seems to get oneshot everytime

[narrow lark]

Suggestions?

[brave oriole]

@narrow lark charm ferael

Lucius call
Lyca
Ainz
Rowan
Nemora or fawkes

[lapis crane]

Is Kaz worth keeping her or should I sacrifice her to make tasi or eliorn mythic or mythic+ here?

[brave oriole]

@lapis crane I would take it slow. Nemora m+ before of eironn it was a mistake at all. Save fodders for eironn first then lyca tasi Saurus. As about kaz, I personally used as fodder, some ppls like kaz, some not. All in all, I've never seen kaz a big loss for my gameplay

[lapis crane]

Yeah I only had one eironn at the time but I got three yesterday (I had like 40 of the black scrolls)

[brave oriole]

My advice @lapis crane, it's to keep most of your heroes e+ for a long time, until you decide on who to work on. Even if you would have let's say 4x gorvo e+, keep him e+, until you ascend something that's more useful first. I do this and works well

[lapis crane]

Okay thanks for the advice and that makes sense

[autumn pulsar]

Hard stuck :(

[brave oriole]

@autumn pulsar you will always get stuck, simple bcs Lucius it's 220,instead of shemira

[autumn pulsar]

lucius doesn't drop off until end game and he's needed to make sure ainz can even ult

[fossil solar]

Looking for help in this level

[brave oriole]

Even so, ainz dmg would be low, simple cuz he's low lvl. Other than that, you will have hard times cuz of your all l heroes

So stop making l heroes and just work on each faction carry, eironn, rowan, daimon and safiya. Save fodders

@fossil solar can't see your heroes list, but try this if you have nemora
Daimon call
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Nemora
Restart if didn't charmed ferael

[fossil solar]

Which art for nemora?

[brave oriole]

Well, nemora at this point need mspd or attack speed. So, some good shoes , and call or eye I guess. Just if you put call on nemora and daimon, use something else for rowan, chalice

If she dies to early, then some def arti

[fossil solar]

Nemors just gets one shotted

[brave oriole]

@fossil solar try rowan front down to see if he can tank, then put daimon middle
So like
Lyca
Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Nemora

[fossil solar]

No luck. My namora is too low to do anything

Thanks though brother

[brave oriole]

Then fawkes, he should remove ferael

[fossil solar]

I will get a mec namora tomorrow

[leaden turtle]

Really need help on this one, mehira is causing me a lot of headaches

[brave oriole]

@leaden turtle not sure what I've used but try
Lyca
Tasi
Nara
Rowan
Eironn
I'm not sure about tasi lyca positions, but the others I am.
If you want to pull mehira with eironn, then you need safiya and ferael Backline

You can also try
Safiya
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Lyca, and I think that eironn need call

[leaden turtle]

This one I tried, I'll try the first one cheers!

[brave oriole]

@leaden turtle yeah, maybe you did, but the artifacts make a diff

[pale kettle]

need a lineup to prevent from crashing

[brave oriole]

What crashing?

[void vessel]

Any idea?

[fossil solar]

Xperia what about tower lineup?

[brave oriole]

@fossil solar add safiya Backline should help vs numitsu totems

[fossil solar]

Take out fereal?

[brave oriole]

Thoran it's not rlly helpful, so put ferael front and safiya back

[pale kettle]

Try Ainz, it will ignore totem with his ult

[limpid breach]

Can someone help me what line up I should use? All my heroes die instantly

[sly ingot]

This one got me truly stuck for now I think any ideas?

[silk cosmos]

can I have some help here?

[onyx ridge]

Everyone insta dies except Ainz and brutus. Any help?

[urban olive]

Any help with this stage?

[west fog]

This one has been brutal for me. Suggest a lineup pls? Grez+Farael really hurt

Thinking of getting numisu +10 but saving up for when I get Rowan M (1 dupe off) and I have enough mats to +30 immediately

[proud otter]

Replying to previous post so you can see my team setup without reposting. I was wondering if I should diversify my factions. I feel like I'm very low with lightbringer fodder but I have a bunch for the wilders. Should use up the fodder to get my Nemora mythic? Or Eironn to L+? Or neither?

[primal jasper]

@west fog I'm at the same level, the comp is, 1.shem 2
Lyca 3 rowan, 4 tasi, 5 nemora. I cant beat it tho I'm too weak xd

It's supposed to work, saw a vid

[scarlet depot]

Help

[pale kettle]

Lucius is not needed with Ainz
Ainz / Albedo and Queen let me finish chapter 21 - 50 onwards @autumn pulsar
imo Queen > Joker for this dimensional comp
as 4th and 5th I used Rowan and Ferael

[autumn pulsar]

i dont got albedo unfortunately lol

[pale kettle]

@west fog link Rosaline to QUEEN
Queen / Albedo / Ainz / Rowan / Tasi for example could work with what you have

[autumn pulsar]

i also opted for joker over queen :C

[pale kettle]

yes, I saw that ^^

save up ressources for Queen so you get her in 7 weeks
and also a major mistake I see
you put 2 elite + fodder into anything
maybe because of the red dots in the temple of ascension ?
anyways ... they're stuck there and you dont have any use of it

[onyx ridge]

Any help with this plz :)

[warm cobalt]

Some help here please, been stuck for days now, can’t get to the 24 sec stun of ainz and in most formations (except this only when Lucius succeed to ult one time) all of the rest are done in seconds

[pale kettle]

@onyx ridge instant death sounds like a bit patience is good advice
level your team to 160
maybe use Rowan instead of Lyca. If you don't mind spending some $ get yourself a Queen for frontline

[warm cobalt]

Im sorry this is the comp that was most successful, not the previous one I shot, the previous one was just one of the desparate trials

[pale kettle]

15 - 40 = Tasi and Lyca will help out in backline. YOu can also look up winning formations ingame
some players also use Arden

[warm cobalt]

the winning formation are using a lot higher level teams 😦

[pale kettle]

at that point I didnt have Ainz
it's the last fight of chapter 15 right ?

[warm cobalt]

yup

[pale kettle]

well. Elite + Lyca and Elite Tasi pretty much won the fight for me

maybe I used Eironn / Lucius and Nemora or ROwan with it ... sth like that

[warm cobalt]

I want a tasi badly 😮

[fallow forge]

Hi can I ask some lineup help? Here is my current line up.

[stuck trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/765357087261589514/Screenshot_20201013-013529_Gallery.png

[stuck trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/793719114458726430/Screenshot_20200922-141404_AFK_Arena.jpg

[raw python]

Any recommended setup or who should I be focusing?

[pale kettle]

@raw python only level 5 heroes
all other get their levels by being put in the crystal slots . otherwise you waste ressources by spreading on more then 5
bring up a Legendary + fodder of each faction ( Saveas / Arden / Mirael / Niru for example )
don't level Queen / link her to highest ascension tier hero available

[normal stratus]

Hi, can anyone help me, i can't find a good team for this event ?

[barren thistle]

Guys help on 6-4 i know its still early but yeah can’t seem to get pass this
Team i use in 1st, all my elites at 2nd

[pale kettle]

@barren thistle read pins in #classic-questions

[barren thistle]

Will do

[west fog]

Both of the suggested lineups (shem lyca rowan tasi nemora), (QUEEN, albedo, ainz, Rowan, tasi) did worse than the lineup in pic. Any alternate suggestions?

[pale kettle]

ascended Queen only with lv1 SI equipped works really well for me with Ainz / Albedo both SI 10 atm
I would try out more combinations and change positioning