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@hollow timber level up ๐คจ also little advice even putting there lvl 1 heroes is better than going with only 3 cos 5 heroes give higher factional bonus
you need assassins, or you need to burst down frontline before backline can ult
if you're only at lvl 149 i reccomend using seveas
Anyone who would look at my outdated teams for challanger?
Numisu would save you there
Have you tried tasi?
Try Lucius alna rosaline ainz lyca
If the problem is saevas and not Isabella, try nemora instead of lyca
can someone help me with good old 29-60
Any advice here? Iโm stuck at 11-26, ainz (or eironn but heโs too squishy now) are alternate carries, lucious and Rosaline staples, taelene in comp too. Every comp Iโm trying is dying too soon before ainz lands first ult, any changes or level up suggestions to make it last longer?
Nemora can be made L+ fairly soon, but it doesnโt look like my frontline is giving enough time to make it matter
First bit of advice, donโt level up anyone to legendary tear unless you have four copies of them. Youโre just wasting fodder and essentially getting yourself stuck with Ascension
As for the comp, let me see the enemies
The only way to deal with saevas is a back line dive. Try tidus and Antandra
Sheโs an early Carry and sheโs getting a buff rework soon. trust me you want her in your crystal
Antandra?
Yes
And it will synergies with ainz?
๏ฟผPut ainz in the middle. The way I see it, if he ults you win๏ฟผ
Thank you will try
I havenโt gotten here yet but I can try. What goes wrong and when?๏ฟผ
๐ข everything dies within 2 seconds
and when they dont die ezizh prevents my team from doing anything
By the time ainz energy reaches full athalia ults and kills my whole team;-;
@nimble hound show all heros
try for Twins any other hero. Maybe lyca or something else @nimble hound
hi! okay so, im not a pro, but i think you should go for the heroes that are Elite+. since your heroes aren't that high-level, you need to pull ressources from everywhere you can reach - and elite+ heroes are stronger than just elite. @solid yacht
you should go do a 10-pull and spend your diamonds :') also, check and see if you can unlock more spaces in the crystal.
for the cards you have now: put Alna and Daimon in the front, with maybe Ferael (? the graveborn archer), rowan and silas (? the graveborn healer) in the back
but i think your heroes are pretty weak, regardless of formation, sorry man :/ level them more!
Stuck on this stage for days. I can reset hero levels if required
This one โ๏ธ
Can I pass this stage if yes then which lineup, grezhul sheilds vurk and my nara dies to him tasi and fawkes target shemira
Also I've found that Lucius works best with call for me
maybe try putting the graveborn tank in the front with lucretia, with the twins, your graveborn 140 and shemira in the back? but idk
i haven't done that stage yet, but
wukong and Alna in the front maybe, with lucius, shemira and the fire-lady in the back, with the firelady in the middle back
Worked. Thank you
Any ideas? Isabella kills whole team and cant get her out. Eironn in middle dies too fast.
Get seveas, you're only lvl 140 avg. Seveas can be used til you're vsing 180s.
Eironn isnt an early game carry also
better off using arden + seveas + rowan
I heard he was meant to be good but he doesnt seem to do anywhere near as much damage as eironn. Will try him in a few places with same gear
he'll do a lot of damage and he wont die fast cos backline
and arden is super annoying with his snares, u should be using him until 180
So arden saveas rowan safiya and a tank maybe?
yeah add a tank and if thats still not working cos you're dying too early, get rid of safiya cos if she cant get ult off her damage is lower
can put rowan frontline cos faction difference
Eh? Wont he just die?
help please
dunno he might if he's dying then rotate positions around or go 2 tanks
i have 2 belinda , tasi , lucretia and rosaline ,,,, who should i focus for levelling
you're using 2 carries daimon and shemira. You should just choose 1 in the formation and everyone else supports
Seem to be getting ass kicked still. Might just be too underleveled at this point tbh
dont put rowan in the middle hes gonna die to isabella targeting him
if eironn is your main carry you're just gonna have a hard time vs maulers early on. esp brutus
Eh, saveas and arden seem to be getting me half as far. Gonna just give it a few days i guess.
you're welcome! :D
You can use either saveas or belinda, if you're planning to use rosaline go for belinda, as rosaline following saveas is garbage. Plus with Belinda being L+ you can start leveling her past 140 @twilit horizon
i have 2 belinda , tasi , lucretia and rosaline ,,,, who should i focus for levelling
If you don't have another carry belinda, but depends of your progression, what chapter are you on?
just started the game ๐คทโโ๏ธ currently on chapter 2
Pick up the free wukong copy and level both wukong/lucretia to 100 asap, they're gonna hard carry you until chapter 9/10
I have 3 mythic leather and only mythic cloth. Rosaline will always follow my leather guys
So id have to have no leather guy to do that which would gimp me more for now.
ok then , will se how to get wukong and do that
You can reset Safiya, make her 121, level belinda as much as possible and try
Rosaline/belinda
Belinda/rosaline
Rowan
Hendrik
Arden
Saveas pairs better with wilders than with LBs
That worked perfectly thanks.
Seems its much better to have a higher level carry and lower level supports
Of course, your goal now is to make belinda 160, after that you can start leveling tanks and supports for last
Shame about all that wasted leather gear though
Only have 1 mythic cloth gear and all my legendaries and epics are stretched to 4 chars now
try switching the spots of wukong and talene
will do~!
Nice managed to clear the whole chapter with Belinda suped up.
On floor 86 of mauler tower... just need some good comps for going forward (have room in crystal for whatever needed). All the replays i have are super overpowered so i cant really copy.
@earnest hinge are you moving your best gear ovet that often or not can make or break your runs.
My mauler factional floor is like almost 30-40 floors behind my other 3. (Ignoring strength cause they have no gear on) What should i ascend next?
btw if saveas starts to become unreliable @twilit horizon mirael + rosa is really really good until you can replace her with 161 belinda
Stuck on 13-24 for a while, any tips? Thank you!
Twins, Talene,Lucius, Rowan, Izold
Should i switch mains to izold tho? Or stick with mirael for now?
Is there a general counter to my enemies? I seem to always struggle against Hogan/Estrilda combo and there is always a Silvina that is another of my issues... I guess I could also AFK more since they have 2.5x my power
Getting my ass kicked again.
Who ever is mid backline keeps dying idk who is killing them, my nara is useless
Not a counter per se but I'd try hogan alna arden lyca daimon maybe
Eironn has v low survivability early game. Try arden in his place. If rosa dies before ulting, swap her and belinda
Silvina will one shot a mage, so I need 2 at least ๐ฆ
New player here, playing for like 2 days and I am stuck in campaign, just got lucius and I dunno how to use him. Anyone help?
Hello @flat narwhal,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
I switched to arden before but he doesnt seem to do, anything, really. Eironn was pulling backliners for me but switched saveas now for a go
I'm thinking it's Oden. His cc is hella annoying he portals one unit onto another one and they get rekt by aoe. Even so e+ nara does u no favors and if rosa doesn't ult neither does she. Would need to see more of ur box
Arden needs haste cutoff to be able to work
if he get his root interrupted you need more haste
Admittedly I struggled mightily against silvina early game. Do u have Rowan?
How to counter that? I keep dying I've never struggled on voyage of wonder before
Not a single one sadly
Oof. Sorry that's beyond my knowledge. I used to let Rowan's energy mitigation skill tank silvina
But with the power difference, Daimon dies really fast haha
I sometimes run eironn w dodge gear or A nara against oden. Is this the twister voyage? That would have been good info to have
Yes twisters voyage of wonder.
I'll idle a bit, I was in a "rush" because I'm 200 gem short of a 10 pull
Hardstuck here for a few days any help?
This one did feel abnormally difficult. Try shem luci lyca eironn and a support. W lyca haste eironn might pull oden b4 portal
ez trick, open it, don't touch it for a week (while you get stronger) then come back. It will lock the difficulty the first time you open it (or when the event start, idk)
What should I do btw?
don't make legendary heroes without a elite+ copy
I've done done, I am dust walled, I am stuck since beginning and there's 3 days left
I've been stuck on 9-40 for like an entire week
Also in lab and voyages, you can suicide a useless lvl1 hero if say thoran's taint would kill someone vital. Basically a 4v5 but if everyone important survives that's what counts
@unkempt field then fish for the best Relics. Get a good guild/friends to get good merc
show ur team
If one hero is guaranteed to die or take massive dmg, let it be talene or a lvl1
Also you can tap "auto" so you keep your energy for the next round
Yeah I'd recommend that except this is the first battle
it should be really ez with shem and lucius
but I'm early game with a single carry so idk if it's harder once you get a couple ascended
Lyca dying. Should I get her to M? Feed kaz or ulmus idk they're useless I think
Just fodder fodder heros...
yeah or if you have more than 4 elite+
I'm desparate I can't get fodder from misty valley, I'm getting destroyed.
Take a merc^^
Stuck at 5 16 need help
Even with merc I die.
show stages - Target & ur heros @unkempt field
patience or try agaiin. Wukong is the best hero until lvl 100 and he's free. (tap share on facebook but don't actually do it, it works and you can even tap that thing 2 time for the same hero)
Ill try to that that rn
Saveas is good after until 160.
where is ur wukong @flat narwhal ?
How do I do it though? I dont think my fb is connected
dont need be connected just press share
My shemira kidnapped by fawkes
When I click go it just redirects me to tavern
I already passed this stage I need 4 maulers to get blue fodder
lol summon a hero and share ur pull. don't you read the thing? @flat narwhal
Guess I didnt xD
@unkempt field
Tidus
Brutus
Numisu
Saurus
Saf
or
Saf/Numisu
Saurus
Numisu/saf
Brutus
Tidus
1st comp worked ty
Nara is a hard fawkes counter. Athalia also works. Other strat is to run 2 carries so even if one gets cc'd u dont lose dps
so gz @unkempt field
Help please
Daimon
rowan
Lyca
Ferael
Tasi
@plush dawn artefakts u need try, maybe u will need some tries
I just pulled a hero and couldnt share it...
Who should get T1 mythic upgrade? Eironn currently 3/3 and Lyca 2/2 with matching factions. Others have 1 or 2 matching faction mythics
@flat narwhal so it was no new one
so make eiron 4/4 ^^ @unkempt field
but just if the gear have any Fraktion bonus! dont care about withone -dont upgrade gear without fraktion bonus
Eironn agree also
I try to get 4/4 but not lucky with resets or direct purchase, need to save for ainz and albedo.
@pale kettle ferael insta dies
he have T2 gear or? 
Full t2 faction gear
so how he can die Insta? wth
retries for hope to "dodge".
works now?^^
What should I field for an arena defense team?
tasi luca rowan eironn ferael
u could try swap rosa for lyca or arden @edgy ore
I tried that, rowan for now is more uselss than rosa hahaha I need that double ulti combo
or there is no way around
shem is quite under leveled maybe you can reset some and give her exp
@edgy ore your team is looking quite decent. I would replace Wukong by Lyca so that Lyca can give haste to Shemira and she can ult faster. Try that
Done, also replaced with arden, they really need the wukong slow
@edgy ore I would recommend using arden from lvl 141, so that he can root 3 targets instead of 2
gwyn is my most complete hero by far, is she not good on defense?
would the twins replace lyra in an early game setup ?
@knotty flare I would do :
Ferael
Tasi
Eironn
Rowan
Lyca
AE need help
@edgy stream The difference is that twins give haste to team only when they ult, whereas Lyca will give haste at beginning of battle. I would use Lyca in early game, especially if twins are only E and die before ult
@unkempt field have you tried using Eironn and Lyca ?
I tried eironn he brings orthros time bomb to everyone I think
@unkempt field try and get a team that has a last 3 faction bonus :
Eironn
Lyca
Athalia
Ezio
Tidus
something like that maybe
No athalia
Any suggestions? I get shredded really fast
@icy plume only have one call. rowan or shem?
- Estrilda
- Rowan
- Fawkes
- Gwyneth
- Cecilia
try maybe swapping estrida with rosa if it dont work
@clever patio
^
don't have blade yet xD
eye on shemira then
@rigid birch thank you!!!
Tasi instead of lyca maybe?
not working guys I can't get any ults off
try swapping shem and rowan
Friends! I've been stuck here for days. I tried a crap ton of formations with the help of nytebyte11 but I'm still stuck. Any crazy ideas?
- Talene
- Belinda
- Lucius
- Arden
- Rowan
If rowan gets 1 shot by silvia try using smth else since u already got heals from talene. Rowan frontline is only good at ascended
Should I force Silvina to jump on Rowan or Talene you think?
Silvina will only ever jump to mages
Any tips for this?
There was a trick learned last night where you can remove some armor and make her jump to someone else even if a mage is in. So far it has only kinda helped lol
If Rowan doesn't get crit he survives for a little bit
she only targets mages, if no mage is present, she jumps to hero with lowest defence
Gotcha gotcha. Still learning, but man do I hate Silvina
he does survive, btu get banished by tasi and nemora outheals everything else
Someone like rosaline is better
Anyone have any ideas? I just get destroyed by athalia
You think something like
- Talene
- Belinda
- Lucius
- Arden
- Rosaline
U could try that if Arden survives
lyca instead of brutus, retry until she dodges, i might also switch positions of rowan and rosaline if rosaline is getting caught by athalia
another option you could also put rowan in the middle if he is tanky and then put rosaline behind shemira and then a tasi or sumthing instead of brutus
I'll give it a shot
I tried it a few times and Arden survives and gets the root , but still no dice. Damn I hate this level
Have I shagged my account too much? A little heavy on the lb, or maybe I'm overthinking guides?
20-30
Kinda stuck. I can keep smashing retry and maybe get a yes on a boss every so often, but now it's a mid and I'm getting spooked
Since when was lb a bad faction?
U should overlevel shemira
She's good early game
@sudden crag follow the pins of #classic-questions it'll tell you exactly what you need to do to get started.
Any chance i could get through this?
Please help :(
can I beat this with my current hero availability?
@royal thorn what about Nara to stunlock Thane?
@pale kettle Talene, Brutus, Rosa, Rowan and Belinda in that order
@gray schooner if RNGsus blessed you. But you'd probably have an easier time if you had Fawkes, Hendrik or Lucius
What formation did you rock on that?
How did you do it like that? Daimon gets banished and the rest wiped
Nvm, daimon still got banished and all of the others wiped. But i guess rng had my back. So glad i invested in
Daimon over shemira
sorry for the late response but my brutus just instantly dies ;/
Yes, thank you for the setup!
@pale kettle oh, I guess he doesn't have invincibility shield yet 
no he does just it doesnt last long
@pale kettle what about replacing Brutus with Saveas? He is a tank/dps hybrid. Idk if he'll last for you since he's only E+, but you could try.
Can anyone help me with some tips on how to pass this stage?
got it
Any chance I can beat this atm? https://gyazo.com/ab3ff7c80c926a52a402aab09df9ff65
https://gyazo.com/4babf314b742e094ece1f48e10502f39
Just took a little moving around and it got me there. Thank you very much ๐
is there a better comp than Talene Saurus Ezio Ferael Twins for the new Trials of God 36?
@upbeat fossil I used nemora instead of talene and ezhizh instead of fareal buh thats the only other one ive seen used
someone who can help me with this stage?
Swap thane and Wu-kong and then swap Rosaline and wu-kong
u did lot of mistakes as new player ,i read everything for beginners and im at 14-29
And this is y I dont ask discord anymore bc everyone gets mad at me for playing the game
People arenโt mad
who is mad,only mad are u bcs u cant finish stage cause you did mistakes at start
I made mistakes at the beginning and now Iโm on 20-34
Itโs about what you learn from those mistakes that counts
To me it seems like everyone is supa judgey and it annoys the shit out of me
We were all new once itโs okay to make mistakes
yea, im playing 3 weeks +- and im at 14-29 someone play 2 months and is stuck at stage 10 depends on your knowledge
@frank bloom you just have to find a mentor
If I could get a few more khasos I could go further
He is the reason I have gone a few stages ahead so I would like it I could get more
Wym
His life leach thing helped my heros
use this ,this might help you
I have already read that
When I started i did not have any guide I didn't even have discord
So I just roll with it and do what I can
Actually I dont know y I have this discord
then just be patient ,its a afk arena,not 24/7 arena ๐
god rly dont know how to beat this.proof
well. Now its look like that. But kelthur dodge 99%
So this is my first AE playing on the test server and I just can't hit 100m damage My tree lvl (outside AE) is 9 for all. I don't have Rosa or Cecila yet. I have tried Safiya, Shemira, Twins, Rowan, Belinda and got 86 million will 5.3 mage (Belinda, Shemira, Safiya, Skriath, and Zaph) and 5.0 support (Rowan, Twins, Nemora, Raine). Do I just need to wait for the last mythic dps mage relic or is there some other comp I should try? I have rangers at 5.3 (Eironn, Fareal, Vurk, Gwyneth, Lyca) Eironn is Mythic all other E+, tanks (Daimon, Skreg, Brutus, Grez, Torne) at 4.0, but only Daimon is Ascended, all other E+. Might (Saurus, Warek, Nara, Estrilda, Wukong) is 4.0 but everyone is E+ there.
I would w8 for the last one and tryd again^^
Is this a good lineup to help support and buff my mirael carry? Or should I still be using wukong carry
Are you getting ainz?
I was goin to but is hes gone by the time i get paid๐
Ye so albedo is linked to belinda so i cant use them simultaneously
you're past 100 so you're good, that's a nice lineup
try The isabella in for belinda, if tht doesn't work you might have to change links
Cannot beat this ToG stage without twins or Nimisu dying 
Could M twins make a difference ?
Its finally done thx for the help
np
maybe, if they're getting one shot might need asc +20
They're not, they dies when Khelthur revives
Or Nimisu dies if he telports to him
What non celepogean hero do I focus next? Or do I go for stars ?
Nara, Skriath, rain @subtle inlet
Hendrik, gorvo, skriath, nara, daimon,silas. Nara daimon and hendriks are must haves
Just got albedo and Arthur, using em with ainz, any recommendations for other two to try and build to use with them? Currently using Rosaline and rowan as my last main team was light bearers
Getting really tired of this wave. Any ideas anyone?
Not sure if this stage is doable, everything just gets one hit, any help?
@pale kettle
from now on use this team (with changes in positioning depending on the stage obviously)
fera
rowan
eironn
tasi
lyca
How can i get nemora to survive long enough to charm someone useful?
swap daimon and nemora? try swapping rowan and lyca as well
or u could just frontline daimon and place nemora in position 3
so like
nemora
brutus
rowan
daimon
lyca
Thanks @stuck trellis I have no clue what I'm doing with lineups in pve so appreciated
daimon is getting killed? try swapping him and brutus
Well...daimon in front of grezhul/farel gets insta killed. If i swap nemora and go
Lyca
brutus
Rowan
daimon
Arden
Vedan and the harp dude die, but the others three collapse on daimon and kill him
try eironn rowan lyca fareal lorsan @nova quest
hey guys i wanted to know whats the best possible lineup with these im stuck on 6-24
i was mainly using shemira wukong lucrecia tasi and nemora
reset shemira and take wu kong to 100 try wu kong lucius tasi nemora ainz
Are my heroes too weak to continue now?
Not really digger
I canโt really figure out what to do now
Can anyone help me out with advice for 15-40?
@normal condor get an arden on Crystal. Have him CC the boss + farael, reset until he does. That should buy you enough time for belinda
Alright i'll try that
Hi guys could anyone help me with clearing 12-1 please
@pale kettle @normal condor don't make heroes L unless u can make em L+
Don't make Legendary Heros you can't make L+.
Reason: If you get make [Belinda] Legendary, you just used Belinda E+ and 2 E+ fodder. If you only have one E Belinda, then you cannot make her E+. So now you have one Legendary Belinda, and one E Belinda. However, if you can't get any Belinda for the next couple months, but manage to get multiple Rowan, then you really need those two E+ fodder. You will really be regretting it because you could maybe have a M Rowan with SI activated, giving energy potions to your team.
Keep getting absolutely rekt on 20-12 before my heroโs can ult, any tips yโall? Iโm desperate here lol
@chrome halo use nemora vs ferael (whith call) and replace antandra or bel whith lyca
Any ideas?
@proud edge try eironn front vs hogan so you can focus the arden
gb tower 371 anyone have replies with thoran, daimon, nara, ferael, izold, silas? lvl 360
Still nada @ripe beacon :/
Been here for a couple days now. Any suggestions?
Any ideas for this stage? Fawkes coffins enemy shem, but Arden is the biggest problem, any int gear heros besides Rowan immediately die to assassin including Tasi, and Nara canโt take out arden. I can also use a merc, or use my trial for the new celestial
Guys I need your help with Howling Wastes (trial of God). I can't beat the final stage.
silvina always did give me issues. I might try lyca in place of flora and if that doesn't work, swap luci shem.
try shem alna rowan nemora rosa maybe. u need to retry a few times for nem to charm ferael, as his spirits will prevent shem ult
if u were to try a fawkes or tasi, who gets removed from battle?
rowan is a staple whenever I run this comp. any of the other 4 can be swapped out for daimon nara as needed, but never rowan. I might move eironn to 3 to pull arden and knock him down b4 he roots. rowan tends to frontline with proper dodge gear, but stage by stage this varies. gl
@summer cedar I can get Shem or Ainz to ult once, but I would probably need at least 2-3. It went a bit better with this but still no dice. Do you think I should use a merc?
what do ur artifacts look like? does luci ult? (probably not but I'd still rather he gets rooted than shem)
They Banish Vedan
The lineup that's there is one you recommended me a couple days ago and gets close sometimes but still hasn't worked so not sure what to change
@summer cedar I have eye on Tasi, chalice on Luci and Brutus, Call on Rowan and grace on Lyca all lvl 2, and yeah Rowan, a Lucius and Shem ult most of the times once
that's unfortunate. you're fielding a very strong team except the problem here is ferael. his constant energy drain sucks, as well as interruption. the 'best' counter is nemora's charm so I'd throw her in crystal and play her at 3, move ainz to 5 drop lyca maybe?
Sorry eye on Shem not Tasi
Alright, I'll try that, thanks! ๐๐ป
Any tips on what to use/focus on lineup wise, trying to be efficient xd
Any general teamcomp ideas on what to use? Currently 26-12 and using brutus(for invincibility),rowan,daimon,eironn,tasi)
tough call here. I always paired shem w rosa for double ult but obv that's just 200 energy for silvina and a 4v5. I typically ran blade on shem and sometimes call but i can't say that eye is a bad choice. play around with that but if all else fails u can merc the week is nearly over anyway. best I got
Thank you for the advice!
eironn rowan tasi form a strong core here. daimon +20 and brutus can slot in depending on the stage. unfortunately lyca and ferael and safiya aren't built or this would be one of the strongest comps around. might wanna ask in #classic-questions what to focus on next, but if they refer u back here, then ๐คท
Yea, working on lyca ferael safiya and gwen on their respective factions,but am mostly locked by copies, so waiting on hero choice for that
try luci brutus tasi arden ainz
Last fight before I can do my first stargaze, halp!?
@summer cedar Assassin girl one-shots arden before he can act and then it just holds until fire girl ults =\
Any advice on getting the damage benchmarks for final boss in AE?
Help please Ive tried everything
@proud edge ferael is. I tried fawkes but the 7 seconds of cc seems worse than arden
I think you need to redo your levelling. Get Ainz to the highest level if he is your carry, but you shouldnt have the rest at a weird level like 143 unless your carry cant get higher. That honestly might be all you need
I had ainz maxed at 160 with albedo and I was finishing out my 160 crystal when I got the fodder to mythic gwyn for ainz link. I figured more levels into him would be better atm. I know I can wait for levels as you can see I still have a few to go, but I was seeing if maybe there was something I can do. Tomorrow at reset I can just use a saurus or eironn merc and beat it that way.
I say drop all those 149's to 141, and get ainz up higher. albedo can drop too if it means ainz can get to 181
a few loevels on those supporting units wont help as much as the levels on ainz
I can only go to 180 with mythic link?
Not invested in mythic + gwyn with only 6 copies
Life sucks.... Im dead stuck....
go to 180 then. Still worth levelling you carry before supports
I will wait on the merc then and relevel then if I need to
Pls help me .....
You should try relevelling now, pass it, then use the merc later in the week
Okay thanks
Use mirael instead of safiya
Should I go for legend mirael? And use all mirael copy?
Sure thing. Always try to save the merc for just before reset, not after. It will get you farther faster
Hey orion could you help me some too?
Read the pinned beginner guide. Mirael can carry you until 160
Okay thanks... Orion appreciate you
Oh cool persona hero's just got confirmed @proud edge could you help me with 9-40?
Did you try atandra instead of talene or lucretia?
Any idea on how to beat it
hmm you may be stuck for now. You need copies to break through those level limits
I've been stuck for a week :(
put shemira on the front line, shes 12 levels higher than the enemy and can tank harder than anyone else on that team
So what do I do is my only option to pay?
@proud edge do u have any options on back row cause Iโve tried having her on front row but I canโt kill the Minotaur dude
No, you can wait for more copies. Looks like you havent been efficient with your copies. Read the beginner guide, focus on fodder to 160
I have read it;/
try daimon or lyca
Then why do you have a belinda at L? You shouldnt take anyone to L if you cant take them to L+. Also, a Mirael would be helping you more than your belinda is right now.
I ascended her before I had joined this discord
Gotcha. Well now you've got her, you have to work with it. Might just need to wait it out a little longer for the fodder or a lucky pull. It happens.
So like this
I think I used up all my luck I got the twins from normal summons lmao
You'll get a celestial or hypogean rarely, I got a free talene earlier today. Summon enough and they pop up. Just have patience and post in here when you have more fodder for guidance on who to ascend
Yeah I've gotten really lucky with celestials no hypogens though
I need some help with 31-44
If I try to take down the 2nd team with the eiron comp it won't work
I see all these newbies with elite + talene or twins and I pull one celestial and it's flora -_-
Haha rip
Rip is right. Still, better than nothing. Flora kicks ass in AE and can do a surprising amount of damage
What's your layout for Eiron team?
anyone got a wilder 363 clear at around level 348?
I just wanna finish out the chapter and chill with the progression
Ik there is a channel for this but inactive anyone has Niru Leg+ for library please? Would help me a lot as newbie, so if anyone have dm me for my id :///
Need Help on 25-54
So, I was just doing some rerolls (just to see if I could get anything interesting I'm super new anyways) and I got an interesting set of characters. I was thinking Grovo (Tank), Rosaline (Sup), Fawkes, Mirael, and Arden (Sup). I'm not sure if Fawkes can "Carry" if not Mirael can for the early game right?
your best bet is mirael for early
arden also great control
rosaline actually deals a lot of damage
Yeah Mirael is a great carry early game and can be paired up with Rose nicely. CC isnt needed as much in the earlier stages, but fawkes is still pretty good. Turtle dude is also a pretty underrated tank ๐
rosaline damage higher than saurus here
This is my lineup. Estrilda and Izold up front as tanks (estrilda with dura's grace) Zaph and Baden on the backlines as they are squishy damagers, and Angelo for buffs and heals.
If I get Silas or a debuffer, I will replace Baden with him.
Also, what are some good debuffers?
pointless to put daimon, shemira and zaph tgt. Stick to 1-2 carries max. Go lucius, shemira, rowan, nemora + maybe daimon or lyca?
i have them in for the team boost thing for shemira
yeah but thats not worth it vs losing nemora support
15-40 has to much cc and energy reduction
well your carries are all mages so you gotta deal with it
havent had any luck with my pulls looking for lucius bc i can get him to elite plus once i get 2 of him
I would suggest building seveas until lvl 160-180. He can be your main carry until lvl 180. Rowan and Tasi are good supports to focus on also. Lucius is decent also.
Is it safe just to reset heroes? Sorry I'm new
@cold cove do you thingk i should get estrilda higher with these heros or just wait?
ik its not smart to use some of those heroes as food but it might be smart?
never use ascended heroes for fodder
ok i figured
more ascended=more elder tree droplets
which translates to more max levels on the tree
ok
estrilda isnt too good tbh. Tends to die fast imo, shes got good suppport abilities later on but not a main carry
This shit is complicated... lol
focus on daimon, rowan, tasi, nemora, lyca, gwyneth
They will be strong late game and Rowan, Tasi are top tier supports. Esp rowan
yes very im on run 120 for my one campaign mission
Shemira dies off really fast 220-240. Shes fallen a lot from the early days. Same with brutus, dont waste too much time on them
im not i just want to get her assended then work on everyone else
Yes just costs 20 gems at the rickety cart. I would say focus on seveas as much as u can. He will carry you until 180, then see what other carries you've got and decide who to invest in instead.
@cold cove would it be worth me still doing 10x rolls or going for mythic gear?
you mean buying mythic with gems? I would say you should still build your roster up
ok
but you'll probably get a lot of scrolls over time so consider that also
your roster is definitely lacking a lot rn, I dont see tasi or rosa, also lyca is pretty low. I would say faction scrolls go into wilder, maybe you'll get lucky with saurus pulls + tasi and lyca
ok thank you
yeah put lucius front line, shift seveas to the back. Rowan, Skreg, Seveas, Tasi is your core, you can swap out lucius for situational picks
@round kraken thats what i used for 31-48, cheesing brutus should be doable for you even though u dont have +30 si thoran since you have talene
Could anyone help me make a better team for this please
@round kraken i would just experiment with it, replace either rowan or flora with your talene. saving rowan would be ideal, cause then you could just run eironn or daimon on the second round
@cold cove you're a champion man
I would say put brutus in there, he's strong early. Get rid of zeph, put lucius and brutus frontline. Eironn behind brutus, Belinda will get jumped by the assassin so she'll die fast, I would say put Nemora in instead.
main carry will be eironn + brutus with the rest supporting
@main solar hmmm.. try this maybe
tasi
rowan
lyca
eironn
fera/safiya
im assuming tasi banishes shemira here? if not then the lineup changes a little
@main solar and if eironn can live after pulling even without safiya field, then you could use daimon instead of fera/safiya too, thats a valid option there
I donโt think I have good enough gear for my Brutus and everyone dies very fast still
That worked perfectly 25-54!!! Thank-you very much!!!
congrats!
all of your lineups from here on out are going to be something among the lines of
rowan lyca tasi fera/daimon/eironn
rowan lyca tasi eironn safiya/ferael/daimon
it really depends on the stage, but those are the general lineups that you will use @main solar
once tasi gets acsended its going to be primarily her and rowan in the frontline, but for now you'll just have to settle for putting tasi in a safe position
Good to know, Thanks for that. Yeah Tasi is my next Wilder to be ascended
swap gear around so that the ones youre using have the best gear possible
Where can I get more gear? I donโt have much good stuff
Also look at the damage charts and see who's effective
up to leg gear is easily obtainable from your afk collection. you'll collect a lot over time
@main solar also feel free to ping me if u need help on a stage, im always down to help out with lineups that use those teams
Um so hard fight my backline is getting hit hard and when athalia ults it kills my team so they dont end up ulting. ;-;
@stuck trellis will do, Thanks
@pale kettle does tasi get one shot when silvina attacks her?
No
lyca
tasi
eironn
rowan
fera
try that out @pale kettle
or this one
lyca
tasi
fera
rowan
eironn
call on eironn tasi, chalice rowan, eye fera lyca
Tasi gets oneshot in the frontline
take off hat and chest armor on rowan, see if u can bait silvina to attack rowan instead
Niru just oneshots tasi, everyone is just dying very quickly, all of them die in 10 seconds
Athalia is gonna be a problem if she kills her target. I used the free alna to tank her when I did it
@pale kettle wait when tasi lives, she banishes shemira right?
or is she banishing athalia here 
Looking to expand my teams past the first lineup. Need a 2nd and 3rd line, for both PvP, and for PvE stuff. My base lineup is
Eironn/Rowann, Tasi/Lyca/Ferael.
Need 2 more lines. Gimmie what ya got, ONLY warrior/support/ranger. Anything goes, except i dont/wont get Nokoruru or Ukyo. Whats the best 2 lines i can get with all 4 base, 2 Celephagenes, and Ezio in Warrior/Support/Ranger.
Yes shemira
show a picture of your heroes
No need, literally anything goes, just those base restrictions.
Ok thanks
@pale kettle ok then run this one
tasi
lyca
eironn
rowan
fera
eironn tanks athalia, silvina dives rowan, eironn 4 pulls, tasi banishes shemira, then rowan ults, tasi ults, eironn ults, enemy gets CC chained and u win
thats what should be happening, tell me if something stops one of those things from happening 
I changed gear but silvina still attacks tasi, lyca just gets oneshot but ill try it, and tasi banishes athalia IF she is targetable
oh if silvina targets tasi here then it definetly wont work, hold on
reset rowan to 220 and level tasi up to 220?
I just broke dust wall with tasi and got her up to 220
then see how it goes
i forgot that everyone isnt equally leveld at your point in the game lol
and she still gets dived by silvina when rowan has no hatt or chest armor on?
The formation actually did work
oh
nice
With athalia untargetable shemira id banished and eironn tasi cc chains the team since eironn can tank athalia, fara does fara things since i made him +20 :)
What team comp should i be running though?
all of your lineups from here on out are going to be something among the lines of
rowan lyca tasi fera/daimon/eironn
rowan lyca tasi eironn safiya/ferael/daimon
it really depends on the stage, but those are the general lineups that you will use
usually rowan tasi frontline
I dont have a viable safiya or daimon rn
Been using ezio sometimes ainz depending on the stage
yeah so u would just shove in fera until safiya and daimon are built in that case
i could see ainz or ezio working better than fera in some cases, so just experiment depending on the stage
if it works then it works lol
I need a lot of fodder to get daimon up to A but fara is getting A first, ezio often cleans up with his execution
Yeah so i cant reach the belinda or other fire witch so im having a hard time, nara dies to quick, fawkes dies too quick so i cant make use of him. Athalia doesn't live so long either, and i cant put eironn in the front to pull them
who does tasi banish
Morvus
damn 
Oh it worked, i guess its cause tasi ported so fara wouldn't get hit with the bouncing attack from the fire witches basic attack so he could do some work
i can explain the reasoning behind that lineup if u want
I would like to knoww
morvus gets banished here, which means you dont have to worry about him. assuming eveyrone lives, by the time he gets out of the banish your CC chain will have already started
belinda is dangerous, but her main damage comes from her ult. her other attacks can just be tanked (to an extent). by placing fera across her, not only will he fear her (which prevents her already limited damage), but he will also drain her energy and stop her from ulting long enough for the CC chain to start.
now your only problem here is mirael's damage, and lucius shields, which would stall long enough for the enemy to kill your team. so, by pulling both mirael and lucius, and freezing + killing them quick, you solve that problem too.
basically, you just have to identify what the problems are, whos doing all the damage on their team, and then figure out ways to fix those problems
once you know that your team is setup right, its just a matter of retrying for dodge/damage rng
Thank you for the insight ill try to use my brain now when i play afk
arthur x 4
I won't get 240k coins in 15 days
Which hero work well against Mezorth ?
@pale kettle you should safe coins for Ainz and Albedo. They would be good choice
its once a month, so over 4 months get arthur
Right so tasi banishes fire witch but she still manages to mess up my team enough to not win
only one other than arthur I might reccomend is Thoran or Wukong. Maybe Skreg but tbh he's only gonna be used in faction tower
Well lightborne can help you early and you can either invest in grave borne or wilders for mid to end game
@stuck trellis 
eironn
tasi
lyca
rowan
ainz
Seveas until lvl 180 as main carry.
From your current heroes, Nara, Thoran, Rowan, Nemora, Daimon are all strong.
@pale kettle try that out, honestly im not sure how well it'll go. you typically counter tasi with daimon or safiya but u dont have either
I bumped daimon to M
Not first to die but second to last. Doesnt doo much damage though
Oh nvm
How do i position daimon in this case then?
Any suggestions?
@ZuzuZulu#9001 tbh id just day keep it like that and keep retrying
or take eiromn out and put ferael in
@pale kettle
I've already done that fight, now im stuck with an arden carry and not sure what to do because my team dies even if he gets cc'd
The fight usually ends a few ways, arden ults and everyone dies is first, if arden dies then the team gets widdled down by ira and losing, or lucian just ults and my team cant kill anyone after arden dies, so i need more damage and i need to keep fara in, but if i replace tasi then arden isnt banished and will more likely ult
But without lyca in without the haste bonus eironm wont kill his pull as easily
What are your thoughts on this @stuck trellis
Anyone here got 33 12 i seem to be struggling
Okay it worked
nice
My brain isnt big enough for this lol
anyone got 29-54 ss?
thank you
Just use eironn comp
@stuck trellis how is silas cc countered?
silas?
Seirus
But nara instead of Saf
ah
u just sort of ignore him and pull the more important targets
Do i want to always try to pull the carry with eironm?
Fawkes gets banished here, fawkes also targets rowan first and does massive damage, ankhira cc's eironn so he can finish off vurk and dies
brutus and skreg are extremely nasty to fight against with eironn comp
honestly I'd try taking out eironn and putting daimon in
or this (eironn uses eye here so that ankhira gets pulled)
fera
rowan
eironn
tasi
lyca
@pale kettle
Yes I know Iโve messed up a lot from the beginning. But what should I be doing more Iโm stuck at 13-15
@vagrant horizon swap rowan and belinda's levels
This happens
Thatโs what Iโm aiming for right now
But I still donโt have any good fronts
@pale kettle experiment with replacing fera for daimon (exact same positioning), see which works better, and then mash retry until it works
@โ โแตแตแถปแตโ#1135 no I mean go to rickety cart, reset rowans levels, and get belinda to lvl 180 right now
then u could run belinda and rowan frontline
@vagrant horizon
Ahhhhhhh
if u have brutus he is a great tank and would help lots
Eironn gets fawksed and skregg kinda just roflstomps, ankhara and skregg are the biggest pronext to fawkes cc
fawkes is getting pulled in but he can still coffin?
Yeah


what if u run call on eironn
he still doesn't freeze in time?
I ammm

ok but on runs where eironn does freeze, does fawkes still coffin?
No. That point fawkes gets cc chained and vurk cleans up or skreg
oh then u good
retry more :bongosolise:
stages with brutus and skreg in it are just retry hell
Godd every time its skreg ulting througg the whole team then they all die xD
Tasi sometimes banishes brutus instead
I switched out lyca for ezio and it worked out since everyone was under his execution threshold
Any advice for graveborn tower 240?
@pale kettle
I don't have daimon ascended, he dies instantly when I try to use him
daimon instantly dies even though u have 30 levels up on him? even with call so he shields faster?
I mean maybe I was unlocky the 5 times I tried it?
yeah retry more than just 5 times lol
Any tips? i get like, super demolished
@thin wind you want to CC/charm the ferael
i see. nara isn't an option, she gets demolished. Arden too. Do i have to switch maybe tasi and hope she banish farael?
You could try that, also nemora works quite well for ferael stages
tasi will banish vedan i think, its possibly ferael for this stage so give it a shot
put tasi away from estrilda tho
yeah tasi banish vedan
Any ideas for this?
lyca nemora and nemora charms fera
question, are you level 311 with that many mythics? you should focus your fodder on one hero per faction to get them ascended, lv 212 should have a crystal level of 350-360 ish
if i put nemora in position 5 she charm angelo. Position 3 she gets demolished by estrilda
@rigid birch i'm not levelling very often, i could go to level 335 with my heroes
Any suggestions ?
put her in pos 3, swap daimon and bruts see if estrilda still runs over nem
but i mean the voyages are scaled to the player's power
@thin wind you need to make sure you are using lyca to get the charm off sooner. 1 charm on ferael should be enough
i know, im speaking about ascended heroes, at 311 i probably had twice as much because i was focusing 1 hero at a time, instead of spreading fodder @slender blade
@slender blade the issue is that you have far too many M heroes.
Good morning all, so I've been looking through my heroes, trying to piece together a great lineup to run through the campaign after 10-38 my formation current is this
Front Line:
140 - Skreg
120 - Lucius (crystaled)/ 120+ Hogan
Backline:
140 - Belinda
140 - Numisu
120 - Rosalie / 120 - Elijah + Lailah
Attached is my hero list, if you want to help switch it up
Hello @mellow blade,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
mhhh with this now estrilda run over both daimon and nemora lol
You really should not he making heroes L if you can't make them L+ @mellow blade
play as you like, as long as you're having fun, im just informing you
No idea what I can do to get past this stage
@rigid birch thanks, i took notice of that ^^
@lusty wren try ferael/lyca instead of fawkes
I made the Ls mainly for Quest board so I could do the legendary quests
I'll give those a shot
so, any suggestions for a team for the first battle of the voyage? ๐
put nara on oden,
- Shemira
- Ferael
- Rowan
- Nara
- Lyca
Anyone an idea for a good team comp? ๐
thanks, i'll try that ^^
read pins in #classic-questions
brutus, golus in front. back shemira,arden and tasi could work with that. But do get the free wukong to carry you at this stage of game
Hali-gali!
Any suggestions?
send heroes @vocal kettle
What 5 heroes should I use for my comp, so I can reset the others?
I personally use Belinda in My formation, strong DPS, quick energy refill with Rosalie, to constantly pop off Ult @frosty slate
Already have Mythic Shemira
Do you have a Numisu that you can Reso? Helps for heals with his AOE heal shrines, however he's easily countered by that annoying assassin
shemira, belinda will fall off late game
shemira will fall off too
belinda is in the budget formation for kane
shemira is meta for nemora
@frosty slate Any of the wilder trio. Arden, Tasi for cc. Lyca for haste. Also, I hope you already stopped ascending A tier heroes to L.
I would say use saurus as your main dps and focus on him
I can't seem to beat this level, anyone I should be using that I'm not?
invest in seveas until 160-180, use him as main carry
Alright only reason I didn't is he isn't as high of an ascension level
Also arden until 160-180
And then rowan, then find 2 tanks and you're good to go
seveas is only max 160, once u reach avg lvl 160 you can revert him and use as fodder
but tbh I think seveas can carry until 180, arden even better you can use until 200 to counter enemy arden
iโve been stuck on this stage for like a week now... i get wiped immediately no matter what combo iโve done haha any suggestions?
arthur and lyca front
Lucius behind lyca, Shemira and Tasi. Ideally you shouldnt use shemira as carry for this cos grezhul gives MR to all allies
But honestly you have no physical damage carries so...
maybe if your lyca is really strong, run Arthur, Lucius, Lyca, Tasi, Nemora. Focus the scythe guy first
@rigid birch
- Lucius
- Antandra
- Flora
- Tasi
- Skriath
- Brutus
- Rowan
- Fawkes
- Daimon
- Ferael
thanks! ill run it
- Lucius
- Brutus
- Belinda
- Nemora
- Pippa
@rigid birch is tht for me?
ye mb forgot to mention
Didnt work๐ญ
- Brutus
- Tasi
- Ferael
- Daimon
- Rowan
maybe put you can take out pippa and switch between lyca and oden, and retry a few times with each oen
celerity relic level?
all lvl 3 maxed except sorcery
get a guildie to kill battle 1 and you kill the 2nd battle
I asked in chat, hopefully someone responds
did you share the tile?
What should my team comp be at this moment?
idk how to share it
Nvm my question got anwsered
click on the tile, and there is a tiny bubble bottom left with an arrow. click on it and click milita chat
gl getting the t5
Is that the city?
t5 is town 2, t6 is city 1
Aa thank you
Now I just have to wait for someone to answer, only 2 people in the entire militia seem to be active in the chat , luckily both of them are on my side of the map
Need help lineup struggling to take t5.
Same issue as me, try to ask for team mate for help in chat
Gywn is getting cc'ed somehow she auto attacks once in a while
you can't take out t5 with level 3 relic level on your own unless really lucky or perfect team
cc'ed by ezizh, ferael, baden and numisu
anyone got wilder 256 ss ?
Trying another.
- Tasi
- Eironn 30
- Lorsan
- Lyca 20
- Saurus 30
trying for a while with +20 3/3 tasi 9/9 +30 eironn 9/9 +20 lyca and 9/9 +30 saurus didn't worked ๐ฆ
the stage has rosa, you gotta retry like 100 times +
tasi call, eironn eye, lorsan windbinder, lyca grace, saurus chaos bringer @worldly wharf
ty i'Ll try it
any ideas?
swap fera and daimon
ok ill try thanks
It actually worked! Thanks a lot!
Help please
Any help?
anyone have a 33-4-2 that is NOT gwyn?
For the love of god someone please help me out here. Getting so sick of this stage.
Tasi Rowan Daimon Eironn Lyca maybe... why is your eironn not 240?
well I had him at 240 and tried him out, and even with 2 t2 gear he really is useless.
Need to get his SI up too. I dont see any +30s???
I'm at ch31 w only 3 gear on eironn. it works, w enough retries ofc 
yeah he's SI is low true. Would 20 be enough?
Get him to at least 25, but 20 is a good start, and get daimon to +20.
with 30 SI?
ok thanks. I'll work on it
yes. im not expecting u to have 30SI at ch24, but the point stands. eironn is very, very good, but rng dependent.
if you cant get him up there, daimon +20 is probably the moet key
ok thanks guys. Reckon I could use him as main carry from here on? Once I increase his SI ofc.
Closest I've gotten was to just Thane and Shemira. Shemira is Shemira and Thane is just like a worse Silvina
yeah. You really dont want to invest in dimensionals at this point like ainz. They're fun, but they dont help you go up the faction towers. I wouldn't screw around with dimensionals except maybe arthur until wayyyyy later
got it. Ok I'll focus on eiron from now on.
Daimon is also super viable, even with a level deficit. Just get him to +20 and hes a MOSNTER. He relies on enemy stats, not his own
yeah I've only got him at m+ but even so he is insane
wait till you've got him at +20. Thats when he really takes off
Lucius, Elijah & lilah , Zaphrael
What role or what champ should my last 2 be
Thinking of belinda and rowan
Help
Am I going about this wrong? Using brutus and alna for invincibility to buy time for ainz ult, but his ult isn't really killing. Any ideas?
Ainz is +9, literally 25 emblems away :S, so for now i have to actually buy time for 2 ults
Pls help
Can tasi pull off her ult soon enough?
So they don't run off the screen (strilda) or do too much with minions...@hollow timber
daimon doesnt rly fit in this comp. id personally swap talene for rowan and daimon for lyca or tasi
Ikr i was thinking along that line
ive tried doing lyca/tasi, lyca/nemora, tasi/nemora
that was at lvl 146 tho but the charm + banish wasnt doing enough
nah tasi still bites the dust too quick
Dont just do 2 supports
Maybe tasi + shemira so u can aoe that stuff or instead of shem
Maybe put skreg at front and have alna at the back
shem will get 1 shot,probably skreg too
literally the only thing keeping my frontline alive is their invincibility passive
ya skreg dies before ainz ult every time
best i can get is killing mirael, but tasi just cant live long enough to ult
Maybe it is a matter of ascending then
especially sucks cuz i have 3 E+ fodder for like LB, GB, and wilder but it keeps spreading my fodder rolls thin and i cant ascend anyone lol
Yea i was thinking get rosaline to 160 and as she has a skill that allows her to be semi tanky when following someone she should be able to pull off ainz x2 ult
If you swap talene to front so brutus avoids a bit of tanking at the start until she goes rebirth will that work
Need help
Fighting 300k vs 400k
Your antandra is probably one shotted, maybe skreg?
I'd try Luci-Tasi-Rosa-MotherShem-Fawkes
Whom does the Silvana jump on?
Prob the shem
Any advice? I also have two crystal slots open if you think any of the other heroes I have will be of help
How is the mother?
on shemira
Have you tried hogan-brutus-shem-belinda-rosa?
I'm hoping MotherShem (shemira) in the center will provide enough DPS with Rosa's buff
Any help
Any suggestions?
I try it, not working, but thanks ๐
Walron no problem :)
One more labyrinth, and I could buy another epic shemira (I have 439xx coin) then I could ascend shemire to mythic .
At the moment this formation was the best result .
The whole backline is the problem, if i dont target arden he'll kill when he ults, if i dont target vurk he ults and kills everyone, when i do target vurk hes too tanky to kill -.- warek cc kills rowan quickly and brutus is brutus.
im gonna try and see how it goes
the problem is that silvina 1 shots rosa
Ferael
rowan
Daimon
Lyca
Twins
@pale kettle u could try that. if vurk is a problem.
Eiron
rowan
Ferael
Lyca/Tasi
Daimon
Try Tasi instead?
The second formation worked better but brutus and varek are just left free to kill afterwards, varek is the biggest problem now
Without the haste from lyca vurk will survive and eironn dies
show me artefacts
omfg! 24-22 is driving me crazy. Never been this stuck before
Eironn, call
Rowan, fara eye
Lyca drape
Daimon chalice
It turns its a 2v1 varek and arden, it goes fine till arden ults and kills daimon
St this point its just a matter of rng
try rowan call or dodge -
eiron call or eye
Daimo chalice or call
@pale kettle
I dont need help with anything so far in chap 17. But i was wondering what would be the best lineup i should use for now.
Put shemira fawks spot. Put hogan fawks spot switch tasi shemira
what does spot means
Shemira or Tasi
Lucius
rowan
Hogan
Tasi/SHemira
I think he mean this @stark summit
oh he prob meant to switch the spot like their place, ye
y its would be more easy if they wrote the comb and not switch 300 x an hero^^
Wondering how to break chapter 22-60
The cc support dies to early to affect anything
Lyca/tasi
Talene
rowan
Saurus
Twins
@distant plume
@pale kettle thank you! Waited for the right rng, but Tasi managed to stall until Saurus could stack up, and the faction bonus helped a lot
ur welcome ๐ wish u still nice progress
Anyone got an SS for 31-15 by chance
@vital kernel
maybe try other artefacts or just more times the same random is real
Suggestions?
Tasi
rowan
Lyca
Brutus/Lucius
Ainz
Lyca
Lucius/Brutus
rowan
Brutus/Lucius
Ainz
@narrow lark
Help pls, athalia boss suks
Tasi
Lyca
Daimon or Eiron
Rowan
Brutus
u could try that @marsh nymph
Hali-gali, Everybody!
Any suggestions?
This game, the level 13-20 power was 420k now thw 13-21 is over 540k..
Tasi
Skreg
Shemira
Lucius
Atara
@vocal kettle
Thanks, not worked. They do 350k dmg in a few seconds. Half team died.
The formation what I posted was my best result.
The backline to strong
My current heroโs I can use really stuck on 19-20 anyone got any advice on a lineup?
Fawkes
Lucius
Shemira/Estrilla
Wukong
Antara
@vocal kettle
show the enemys @fallen condor
Thank you, I will try it.
Fawkes
Brutus/Lucius
Rowan
Shemira/Belinda
Rosa
@fallen condor
nah they got nuked in about 5 seconds
Brutus survive with his passiv 5 or 6 seconds. thatsn ot possible bro
I mean, brutus survived, but on hes own and then when he's passive went off he died
well its a wonder that u dont have acedend hero...๐
and team died also if u have 5 LB heros in one team after 5 sec? hell...
Belinda
Rowan
Rosa
Lucius
Fawkes
I have bad luck when it comes to pulling heroes
but ur wishlist is fine or?
ye, I change it often when I need more of a specific hero etc
show me
Thane out and Belinda in... after belinda gwyn
GB Izold > Grezhul
I mean, I can do but I only ever pull blues and greens xD I spent the 2700 diamonds all the time, only get blues and greens
rare that I get a purple
all 30 cards u should get one elite.
like I say, I rarely do, and the ones I get are rarely the ones I need on top of that ๐ I just need one more shimera to make it ascended
technically u can pull 29 normal summons, 29 faction summons, and infinite friend summons and not get a purple. wouldn't that suck 
friends sums dont have a save "legi" if I'm not wrong
I dunno, I just don't seem to have the best luck when it comes to pulling heroes, took me 4 months to pull one Lucius
thx, got it with daimon>tasi and eironn back mid :)
gz ๐
How the hell do I beat this stage??
have u an E ezizh?
Yep
Ezizh
brutus
Daimon
;Lucius
ferael
Aight, Ill try it, thanks
works ? @charred root
My Ezizh is too squishy, he dies in like 2 seconds. Been retrying, but it won't work. I think im just too low of a level/ascension on my heroes rn
need help asap, frontline shatters quickly
Tasi
this new light hero
rowan
Shemira
arden
@edgy musk
Will try.
Ah, it doesnt work
Nvm. It does work after i retire my mirael and spend all on shemira
so gz ๐
Thanks for the help
does tasi have banish? swap tasi for nemora if she has banish, then see who tasi banishes
also consider swapping arden and seveas positions, arden on the side should snare frontliner and niru if you've got 2 snares unlocked
Alright, I'll test it out
Arden didn't place any roots nor did tasi banish an enemy, I've got them unlocked @cold cove
saveas
saurus
rowan
ucius
arden
@red sinew
^ try that
I dont know why tasi isnt banishing if she has it unlocked, possibly she's getting interrupted by an ability
@pale kettle didn't work
try tasi again but change position, I suspect its an interrupting skill thats stopping the banish
can even put tasi frontline vs the graveborn cos faction difference should mean she can tank
hes chapter 8 should he not his first L hero? 
for who? dont wait L+ for leg heroes
For saveas
he have just one silvana as food
ascend him, its not too hard to get 6 fodder to make a E+ seveas
harder to get dual copies of an ascended hero
u cant ac saveeas lol
i mean ascend him to L
Help on 30-26?
we had same level @stuck trellis 

@stuck trellis what artifact did you have on daimon?
any help for me here?
Alright. I'm back again. I find myself stuck on 8-20. I find myself running out of time more than anything.
early game best read pins in #classic-questions @steady grotto
Thanks!
Who is giving you trouble? If its Warek, put damage dealers on his side and burst him down quick. I dont know who your main carry is, if shemira then she definitely shouldnt be frontline vs 2 wilders.
its mainly eironn and carry is shem
anyone know how to stall for long enough so that ains can ult? i die before the guy can even do anything
Your heroes arent really built around stall... I would run Lucius, Lyca, Tasi, Rowan + Carry for stall. In your case you've got a bunch of squishies, best off not betting on stall
i'm just mercing ainz so i can pass this stage lol
Stage being mean to me
Place shemira backline, Keep lucius, Rowan, Daimon, Add numisu. Numisu heal should hopefully keep frontline alive. Shemira should be able to carry once she gets an ult off and starts stacking kills.
-Top
Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Daimon
Numisu
-Bottom
Bad merc choice imo. Nothing in your roster says stall to me. Maybe run Saurus, Daimon, Rowan, Lyca, Ainz?
@sly cobalt call
k thanks ill try that
Shemira-Call
Lucius-Chalice
Rowan-Chalice
Daimon-Chalice
Numisu-Call or any tank artifact
I v been getting some hypogeans and celestials 'ately should i start implanting them into my comp? (haven't t been using them since they r only on elite)
definitely use twins, they're a premier support. Considering how you're still using E+ in your formation twins is a good swap out. Use it over that other wilder, the one in backline with tasi and lyca
I use twins in boss fights (guild ones) but th twins get oneshited in campaign while solice buffs the team defense rating and summons an add that can tank znd reflect dmg
in that case, other useful ones you have probably khazard, wukong, orthos? Still very niche uses considering they're only E. Wukong has a good accuracy debuff, orthos is a decent tank, khazard gives good control
athalia is the easiest free celestial to get and also most useful free celestial
Ferael is a pain and charming him with Nemora isn't doing it
Tasi/Fawkes aren't much help either
Need help tried safiya comp/eironn comp/budget god comp/daimon comp over 50 tries each
Hey fellas, any tips? I realise I most likely just need a few extra levels but thought asking wouldn't hurt ๐
the usables list
Other than swapping Lyca and the maid positionally for better coverage with Lycaโs ult, you might need to wait on those levels
Any help would be appreciated, I get nuked off the face of the earth. Tried the Talene swap but sheโs too low ascended to be effective
thanks!
Can't really say what comp will work for you.
If ferael is a problem, position a damage dealer, ideally a ranger opposite him and he'll take some damage.
Other option is destroying one of the flanks and then your flank can come in and kill faeral, your best bet is getting rid of grezhul and seveas. Only problem is Grezhul is a MR tank and your carry seems to be daimon who does damage from spells.
I think i countered this strat with my own fareal.
Suddenly stuck here
Need some advice to defeat them plz let me know Artifact also ty
Is this a good team?
what sort of comps can I make with these in abyssal expedition? I can't get a town 2.
there should be an AE guide somewhere in the discord
You're doing AE wrong so my advice would be read the guide, change your lineup
Heavily stuck here with no chance of winning other than to overlevel
Is overlevelling my only chance at this
Well, this is Wut I was trying to win with . AE so close yet, so far ..
So just got to 33-60. Any suggestions to pass it? Without mehira or ainz&albedo if possible.
Need help with 5th team
Is there any heros I should be looking to build I've been focusing on: daimon, and will soon focus on: talene and flora
anyone got solutions for wilder 363 and gb 355?
@thorn vigil any chance you have gb 355 too ๐
thanks brother
Rosa, Rowan, Tasi, Nara are all strong and can be put in your comp with daimon
Also thoran can be used in a Daimon comp
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