lineup-help

[wide gust]

@pale lagoon i dont have nemora i do have fawkes tho and i will give it a go for 15 rounds and see if it works so thanks! hopefully it works ive been stuck for like 4 days now

[narrow lark]

Fawkes Banish is real nice 👍🏻

[pale lagoon]

Nemora wasn't really needed. Only until 20-60 I realized I had no gear on nemora, talene :<

They dont deal much DMG overall, except if dreaf pops off

[wide gust]

ive tried to put him but he cant banish the ulmus i have no idea why and he banishes dreaf and it does nothing since i cant deal with the healing

[small cove]

Any suggestions? Grezhul and Feareal destroy me

[pale lagoon]

Ulmus doesn't deal DMG. Dreaf does a lot of dmg

[wide gust]

true but i cant surpess the heal of both nemora and ulmus i feel like they are 2 tanky for some reason

[pale lagoon]

@Sonya#9813 9813 nemora instead of Nara. Try to charm ferael. Rowan instead of lyca.

Talene

Lucius
Nemora
Rowan
Shemira

Or

Talene

Rowan
Nemora
Shemira
Lucius

[narrow lark]

Any suggestions

[summer cedar]

who gets coffin. what is rowan's dodge?

[narrow lark]

Vedan

Rowans dodge, what do you mean ?

[summer cedar]

rowan cant rly frontline w out a high dodge stat. vedan doesn't warrant coffin imo- was hoping for fera. try alna brutus lyca rowan ainz. will need retries in case fera interrupts too much

[narrow lark]

Will try that! Thanks 👍

[raven obsidian]

I unlocked this mercenary friend thing. What does that do?

[pale lagoon]

U can rent your friends units to use

[narrow lark]

You can request to use a friend or guild members heroes. Mainly used to get higher ascended heroes to help in different aspects of the game

[onyx mason]

Can't clear the stage. My backline gets webbed, and it kills their energy regen so they can't ult, and that gives that asshole with the double axes time to ult and kill everyone

[wide gust]

@pale lagoon ive tried all the 3 comps (first two with lyca/arden and one silmiler to what you did) and its a lose time after time it looks like its not even close any other idea? or i just have to be stuck untill i get daimon to +20?

[raven obsidian]

Hmmmmm, I feel this renting unit thing could help me

[fossil mural]

Thoughts? I almost have lyca’s 20 and am gonna continue pushing feraels.

[brave oriole]

@fossil mural why don't you use rowan?

At this stage you mostly need Brutus front cuz of saveas

So then maybe
Shem
Brutus
Rowan
Rosa
Lucius dura's call
But if saveas hits Rosa first, put her back, and put Brutus up or down, just to get hit by saveas

[wide gust]

yo @brave oriole im still stuck on the same stage any chance u might have a diffrient formation? im so desperate to beat it and cant seem to do it

[brave oriole]

@small cove charm ferael

@wide gust I don't know what arden does, replace him with Rosa maybe?

[wide gust]

he does roots 3 enemies as the battle begins and sure i can try

[brave oriole]

Well, root helps on huge dps at all, not On this

I would start to gear rowan and use him Frontline, Brutus it's a waste for now

[wide gust]

i jnust cant deal with the huge amount of heal and tasi banish daimon 2-3 times

[twin dove]

Last stage I need some help

[wide gust]

@brave oriole thats the best gear i have for the class is it enough?

[brave oriole]

Nah, rowan need mostly the shoes

For mspd

[small cove]

Tried using nemora, didn't work

[wide gust]

thing is that 3 stages from now i get a M shoe for him but i have to beat 20-40 and well im stuck hard at 20-37

[brave oriole]

Keep trying until she charm ferael, then adjust your team

@small cove try
Rowan
Shem
Nemora
Rosaline
Lucius dura's call

@wide gust don't you have l+shoes? Enchant to +3 or so for mspd

[wide gust]

sadly no i have no idea how thats the best gear i curently have

[brave oriole]

You can enchant your gear, you know?

Like 2 3 4 5 stars max

[wide gust]

ik but what will i get from it ofc daimons gear is enchanted max hat shoe and helment

[brave oriole]

I'm not saying to +5,but +3 it's cheap

[wide gust]

the wepon and hat?

[brave oriole]

From shoes you get more mspd for ex and others

[wide gust]

ohhhhh so i should just get it +3? for now?

[brave oriole]

Well, if you want a strong rowan I would +3 if factional. Gear

[wide gust]

ofc but i should get all his gear or only his shoes? if so i will do it now just quite a bit of gold thats why i ask

[brave oriole]

Well, for rowan shoes are the most needed. It's not an emergency the rest, but, your Frontline should be hella geared if you want to advance

Until to this chapter, I had mostly 5 heroes geared with t1

[wide gust]

so i will get all his gear to +3 that much i can do and i hope to get him M shoes soon

t1 is normal M right?

[brave oriole]

Or i forgot when t1 drops

No, it's mythic t1, updated. Mythic

[wide gust]

oh i dont have that how can i do that?

[small cove]

Tried that
Even if she manages to charm ferael, the effect is short and then the team decimated me

[brave oriole]

They drop but ive forgot when, t2 stones drops from. Chap 26

[wide gust]

oh i think its chap 21 the t1 then

[brave oriole]

@small cove oh, true, bcs your Lucius it's m, and shem l+ so Rosa doesn't help and. Shem also. You need a carry urgently

If you want a noob advice, fodder Isabela to shemira, you will never miss isabela

Then reset Lucius to 160,and plus shemira to max you can

[small cove]

Hopefully tomorrow I will be able to m shem
Didn't have luck with my pulls, almost no graveborn
Isabella is the reason I started playing so she is staying with me

[brave oriole]

Yeah, I understand. But you don't have a carry at all. Shemira should be mythic by now, and it would be hella diff your team

If there's 15 gb heroes, Isabela it's like 14th on top

[steady imp]

Please help. So Hard

[faint ibex]

you could always t ru replacing arden with someone like brutus if he can't tank the damage for long enough

[fickle loom]

lya rowan tasi safiya eironn
thoran talene daimon rowan nara

[wintry sierra]

I need help

[narrow lark]

Ayy I'm stuck on that same stage

[wintry sierra]

🤝

[supple hemlock]

Anyone have any idea for a better lineup to beat this. Feeling noobish 😂

[halcyon kettle]

What caomp could I build around nara? Rly love her ult alot

[narrow lark]

Daimon and Fereal work well with her and then just pair them up with Shemira and rose

[little ferry]

Im at the last hard mode stage of the labyrinth

Please help theyre all lvl 200 and i managed to kill eironn with my weaker heros

Anyone ?

[plush patrol]

Need help with this

[tall wagon]

Is she worth a spot in my top 5?

[little ferry]

Bro i really was hoping for a secomd someone would help me
Well anyway

[wet violet]

merc a saurus?

[little ferry]

@wet violet uh wdym

@wet violet wdym by merc a saurus

[wet violet]

or you can use dura tears

[little ferry]

Ok im gonna try

[wide gust]

any chance for help? im stuck so bad

[glad citrus]

Can someone help me

[summer cedar]

@plush patrol

[little ferry]

Ok so @fiery oracle i tried it out and it worked pretty well

[wide gust]

and thats it? @fiery oracle ive tried both before didnt work the healing is 2 much i cant beat it since tasi banishes daimon 2-3 times

[little ferry]

I still have some good heros so

@pearl zinc ok so i tried someone ses suggestion and it worked 80% can u help me ?

[hallow kettle]

Bruh how the dump do u do this. All the nemora heal so Much that daimon can't even kill one person for Sig item, and ezizh just ruins ults

[little ferry]

Damm bro thanks @fiery oracle got lota of good rewards

[stark dew]

Soooo what y’all think best team is

[little ferry]

Arthur would be good at the front with another good attacker like brutus

[wide gust]

thanks i will try!

[glad citrus]

anyone got any ideas

[wide gust]

daimon indeed have call on him

[royal thorn]

Any tips on this?

[tepid shale]

I finally got my boi daimon and Farrell 🥺 someone please build me the best team I can rn

I’m working on dust for him

[glad citrus]

Seems like just izolt and shemira

But if I need to I can reset them to change the lvls to help

Ok I’ll try thanks

[tepid shale]

I’m not the best at building teams so if anyone can help that would be great

[glad citrus]

Nah it didn’t work they couldn’t take the damage

[plush dawn]

Been stuck for a while help please

[glad citrus]

Yha same thing he got 1 shot

Probably gonna have to wait and lvl up my units

[summer cedar]

need a nara or athalia directly across mehira in pve or it'll be hell. but i dont have the lineup for that particular stage, sry

[velvet belfry]

@tepid shale it really depends on the stage.

Daimon/Rowan/Estrilda/Lyca/Ferael is probably a good general team. Fawkes, Talene, Nemora, Rosaline and Lucius as needed.

Satrana can work as a carry instead of Daimon if you can keep her from dying quickly

[wide gust]

@fiery oracle so after like 15 min of retries i can say its not close not even once i die all the time when they are all full hp

[glad citrus]

Kk thanks @fiery oracle

[velvet belfry]

@wide gust you need initial burst or CC on Tasi to give time for daimon to get momentum, Tasi is the reason youre losing most likely

did you post your hero box anywhere?

[wide gust]

it is the reason @velvet belfry i know that much but i have no idea what to do im stuck for 4 days now about to be 5 yeah ill post it again

[velvet belfry]

dont worry too much about how long you are stuck. eventually you will break through, its not a race

have you tried nara on tasi?

[wide gust]

true but like im stuck and i want to get to chap 21 at least since thats where i can get gold emblems at the shop so i can progress the si of rowan and daimon

[velvet belfry]

nara + rowan support might give daimon enough time to get going

[wide gust]

yeah ive tried same result since they she dies 2 quickly ive tried nara on nemo and tasi but no good outcome

[velvet belfry]

also, have you tried using alma frontline? she works ok as a tank... but i also think your crystal level is very low for chapter 20

yeah i forgot tasi just blinks away from nara

but also, rowan should be frontline like monti said

or daimon backline, so you can sac people to give enough time for daimon to live

[wide gust]

didnt try and use alma much tbh i can try that and yeah im aware since i pushed hard cuz i got lucky with A daimon rather early (chap 13) and ive come this far cuz of him and i dont even have a month in the game so i dont have much hero essense

yeah ive just played 20 min with what he said rowan frontline and it was better but still didnt change much i cant even kill one of them idk

[velvet belfry]

the lack of a proper built roster caught up with you, its ok though, what i think you need is a 180 or 200 crystal and youll be golden for the next couple chapters

since A daimon is a very good carry

[muted stream]

Any ideas?

[wide gust]

yeah i thought it might be the case but i have a feeling i can keep on going untill chap 21 since daimon is strong and hopefully tomorrow he will have +20 si to carry me

[velvet belfry]

try alma rowan frontline, lyca daimon ferael backline?

[muted stream]

Yeah i jumped from 25 22 to 26 23 with daimon +20

[wide gust]

but i dont know if it will change much honestly its the first time since i started playing i got stuck this hard and was beaten that hard to the point i aint doing much dmg to them so im kinda desperate 🙂

[velvet belfry]

you can also play around with twins or mehira, since mehira is tanky as shit and twins just need to get one ult off for daimon to snowball

[wide gust]

and ill try

[muted stream]

Oh yeah alna i havent claimed her. Ty will try it

Mehira and twins are both E tho..

[velvet belfry]

mehira at E is still good

[wide gust]

ive tried mehira but she gets one ult off but since they have no dps its not worth much and twins i have yet to try but i doubt it since they are E and kinda weak

[velvet belfry]

in the case of twins if you can let them get an ult off they have done their job

[muted stream]

Yeah

But idk about twins tho

[velvet belfry]

i dunno ir eally feel like people sleep on using twins for the first ult

[wide gust]

im a hardcore beliver in daimon since i got carried hard all the way to chap 20 its mad to think that since ive been playing for 3.5 weeks now id use to have days where i completed a whole chapter in 1 day @fiery oracle

[velvet belfry]

even if they die after its a big gamechanger

but yeah, at your stage theyd prob struggle too much

[wide gust]

but arent they will just died since they are weak at E? like get one shoted?

[velvet belfry]

depends on their position

the only time its for sure is if your tanks also get one shotted or they got like a silvina or something lol

twins with lyca or rowan to get their ult up faster usually can get an ult off before they die

[wide gust]

well everyone gets one shot but daimon for me though i am super underlvl in the crystal

its 60+ diffrence

[muted stream]

Got em with alna @velvet belfry

[velvet belfry]

alma stalls thane so hard i love it

[wide gust]

congtz

[velvet belfry]

glad it worked @muted stream

[wide gust]

if so i should be able to get it its 730k vs 1600k idk if its also for chap 20 tho i know later on thats the case

[hollow timber]

Is there any hope for this lol

[velvet belfry]

no probably not

[hollow timber]

I managed to get 1 kill but there's no configuration I can find to get daimon safe for long enough

[velvet belfry]

what was the comp?

if you get thoran on the crystal, you might be able to stall for daimon with thorans ult

[wide gust]

ok so any idea if i can beat this? instead of the campain the tower? its the same situation with the healing its 2 much @velvet belfry

[velvet belfry]

lol i remember this tage

[wide gust]

nightmere

[muted stream]

Theres a meme from it too lol

[velvet belfry]

the 4 ulmus flanking the nemora always get me weak

[wide gust]

i cant its 2 much i mean comeon

ive tried eironn didnt help 🙂

[summer cedar]

I'd slot in arden over fera here

[muted stream]

Ferael have healing reduction right?

[velvet belfry]

i believe i won that stage with nara on nemora

[summer cedar]

he needs si, but yes. not relevant for him tho

[wide gust]

so nara instead of lyca?

[muted stream]

Yeah then i would swap fera out

[velvet belfry]

i dunno if it would matter with your crystal level

[wide gust]

u got a point

[velvet belfry]

my nara was probably like M+ 200

[wide gust]

mines E+ 160 :d

[velvet belfry]

E+ Nara snapped for me for awhile but i always kept my crystal pretty current

[wide gust]

the dmg is there but the healing always goes off and its a nono

[velvet belfry]

put rowan backline, daimon front?

[wide gust]

i can try

[muted stream]

Try
Fera
Tasi
Daimon
Rowan
Lyca

[velvet belfry]

oh yeah tasi would be good there

[muted stream]

Oh wait no healing reduction

[wide gust]

i have her E i can put her at the crystal if needed

[velvet belfry]

well shell probably instadie unless ur willling to spend a long ass time resetting till she gets the ult off

[wide gust]

idk if she would hold even when i will reset at the front and sure im ready to do retries i mean thats how i got so far i dont mind it that much

its so close but i cant finish then before they heal back

[velvet belfry]

you just need to build up your support pool a little more

your daimons good but hes missing the support

[wide gust]

isnt rowan enough? i know tasi is really good to have but i just wanst lucky enough to get copies of her

[velvet belfry]

rowan is great yes but 2v5 is tough when the rest of the team dies before they can get anything going

you still should work on a deeper roster, your daimon is set for now

[wide gust]

who do u think i should do i know i should build fera and lyca and im working on it missing the dust hero essence and well food so yeah

[velvet belfry]

my solo carry got me pretty far with just an E+ Rowan, but I used a lot of other support champs like Lyca, Twins, Nakoruru etc

looking at your box, eironn rosa and skreg would be good candiates to build as well

have a built mauler to tear into these wilder healers is always a good call

[wide gust]

i can get lyca M and im going to do it i just been told not to use arden as a food for her and as for fera im missing 2 E+ to M him as well and rosa i can build 2 since i have 6 copies of her and thats about it i think

is safiya any good for me atm? i have 4 copies of her and i can make her M if needed

[velvet belfry]

safiya is good period

but she needs investment

i would prioritize safiya to build as your first ascended mauler

[wide gust]

shes the only maulers i have with 4 copies everyone else i have 2 or 1

and because of that i have alot of food there just dont know what to do with it

[velvet belfry]

imo Eironn Safiya or Ferael either of those 3 should be your priority

then Rosa once youre done with Rowan

[wide gust]

so i should M safiya i can pretty much do it now

eironn im missing 1 copy to get him anywhere since i have 3 copies of him but fera i have 5 so im planning on the gb to build him working on it

[velvet belfry]

i dont think you should ascend people from L+ unless you have eough copies for ascended, unless their sig is worth the power spike

but thats just my opinion

[wide gust]

yeah ik that much and thats why im keeping my food tbh i have 8 copies of gwyneth and shes M atm but ik shes not good for my team so there is no reason to waste more food at her for now as i have better things to build

[woeful yacht]

I hope I don't derail anything here but I've been stuck on this stage for about 4 hours lol

I can show the rest of my heros if that would be helpful

[pale lagoon]

@woeful yacht Heroes?

[pale lagoon]

@Shadow2400#8663

Belinda

Rosaline/Brutus/Rowan
Nemora/Fawkes/arden
Rosaline/Brutus/Rowan
Arden/Fawkes

If using nemora she has to go in the middle and charm the rat. Otherwise go Fawkes + Arden and pray for good Arden RNG.

[woeful yacht]

Forgive me, this is my first time asking for help. In your list you're suggesting multiple people to try in each slot yes? I don't think I've tried any of those combos yet so thank you for the suggestions.

[silent summit]

Could use help on 32-56. Merc available.

[pale lagoon]

@woeful yacht yes I was haha

[silent summit]

Won’t let me post my roster...

[woeful yacht]

Thank you very much! I'll try those options soon. I was rolling through campaign ever since I got to 160 on the crystal, and then I hit this wall.

[pale kettle]

Anyone know the current wrizz/Soren meta teams?

[pale lagoon]

@pale kettle saurus + twins

[silent summit]

@pale kettle Saurus +30, Rosa, Warek, Twins, Raine 3/9

[pale lagoon]

u can also use cecilia instead of the mauler guy for soren

more soren teams

[pale kettle]

thanks a bunch, I guess raine has a place now, I foddered her before she got reworked

any good raine replacements?

[desert drift]

rowan?

[limpid hill]

damn guys it seems like i'm at a moment in the game where i absolutely need to ascend few char to move forward

[viscid oak]

Trying to pass 9-20 but I can't kill more than 2-3 enemies, does anyone have suggestions? =)

[pale kettle]

Try moving Rowan in the middle, arden was a badass too because of his root ability

[viscid oak]

Badass enough to offset the lost faction bonus? Let's try! 😄

[vast meadow]

stuck

[teal tree]

Saveas and Lucius die first need help

[onyx basin]

any trial of gods fallen souls team and trial ?

[robust pelican]

I’ve been struggling and don’t really know what to make my team at this point, any suggestions?

[fading veldt]

they're quite tanky and painful, any ideas?

[onyx basin]

How would i beat the last battle of the trials? Without the 3 ult thing

[proper glade]

How can I beat this? They just don't want to die

[hushed timber]

I can't even fight these heroes. Athalia goes on brutus, then everyone else just dies to saveas while fawkes coffins daimon.

[proper glade]

Nvm I just did it

[mossy nova]

Team comp for Ainz and Albedo? I’m grass heavy currently so was thinking three of them. Can also grab Arthur if he is needed.

[hollow timber]

im literally stuck on 16-12 as well

i dont have 160 on my crystal yet, just an ainz hypercarry at 176 but he cant get off 2 ults in time

[pale kettle]

What do I do?

Basically my hero's die almost instantly

[junior vortex]

What would my best line up be? Im new but im just throwing anything together and hitting walls

[twin dove]

I need some help the shotgun guy kills my rowan before my lucius gets shield then my whole team dies

[vast meadow]

You need Ezio or Arthur to make Ainz work in PvE high level deflicts. Only using Ainz &Albedo is only for PvP. I recommend atleast Ainz +20 SI, 3FI and Albedo +30SI, 3 FI for the dimentional comps.
Recommended Ainz & Albedo mates: Ezio, Arthur, Tasi, Rowan, Lyca, Ezizh, Talene, Brutus, Hendrik(Need high SI Lv), Alna

[mossy nova]

Okay sounds great! @vast meadow I’ll work on getting either of them soon. I’m on chapter 18 so long way to go for PVE

[faint ibex]

Try switching the spots of Lucius and Alna or Switching out Lucius for Brutus, both of them have damage immunity for a good amount of tiem which can stall for your ults

[twin dove]

Thing is that rowan dies 4 sec into the match everytime

Rowan dies and everyone else is half hp to the shotgun guy and he's not even the boss

[pale lagoon]

@woeful yacht btw did they work? The teams I gave you

@twin dove post all Heroes

@junior vortex use wukong until 100, mirael or saveas after until 160. It's hard to give teams because you don't have many Heroes yet

[pale lagoon]

@Fire#4572 You can use:
Ice lady/Lucius

Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Belinda/Lucius/Nara

Take fereal out of crystal, he sucks at your level. I would have leveled mirael of saveas and breezed through these stages with em, but ur almost at 160 so thats kinda irrelevant now

[junior vortex]

@pale lagoon i can buy any from the lab store, should i buy another wukong?

[pale lagoon]

No

@junior vortex what are your units rn

[junior vortex]

This is what im currently using

Alot of them max at 100 too

[pale lagoon]

Wukong doesn't become strong besides in PvP after level 100. Other units just catch up and pass him in usability

You can either 1) save for dimensional Heroes

2. shemira
   I'm an older player so I went for shemira, but daimon is better now

[junior vortex]

i have 2x hogan E+ spare so i can make a light to legendary, either Hendrik, Estrida or save to make Mirael Leg

[pale lagoon]

Mirael L+ first

Hendrik estrilda super niche

Unless lb is your carry faction, Rowan should be your first promoted light bringer.

[junior vortex]

Dont have much to work with

[pale lagoon]

Yeah, just try to get mirael leveled and keep trying to progress

[junior vortex]

is brutus worth making 101?

[pale lagoon]

Btw Lucius is strong

[eager gust]

hard stuck

[pale lagoon]

Save the dust, you want your carry to be hitting the level cap first before any other units

@eager gust post all Heroes

[pale lagoon]

Vedan messing you up huh

[eager gust]

yea

i can kill everyone but then my shemira cant kill him fast enough

[pale lagoon]

Belinda (eye)

Shemira (blade (or drape))
Rowan (get his SI up ^-^) (call)
Lucius (call)
Nemora/alna/lyca/Rosaline (Grace I think works best)

Hope that works...

[junior vortex]

should i swap wukong with lucius?

[eager gust]

vedan still fucking me

[pale lagoon]

@junior vortex get Hendrick out of there

@eager gust I'm heading to bed, just screw around and pray for rng. If you 2 ( u and Nyle) have any questions just dm and I'll answer tmrw

[junior vortex]

just got another brutus and my first gwyneth

[eager gust]

alright

[pale lagoon]

Nice, both are strong. Gwen is only strong later on though

Gn

[tepid shale]

@velvet belfry thank you

And honestly one team can get through a lot in the beginning form what I’ve seen

[velvet belfry]

no problem

[tepid shale]

My teams been good but I heard estrilda gets squishy so I’m just thing to better it

[velvet belfry]

estrilda with investment and gear is an ok tank, she functions well in gwyn comps

[amber halo]

I swear ferael makes all my units go afk in 21-53

[velvet belfry]

@amber halo charm him with nemora

its basically the best counter

[amber halo]

My nemora is l+ and my main heroes are ascended so not a good idea either even if I charm ferael but yeah nemora is kinda the way to deal with ferael

[velvet belfry]

you dont need nemora to live

[tepid shale]

This was working but it got squish so it just doesn’t anymore tbh

[velvet belfry]

you just need her to get the initial charm, which will give your heroes enough breathing room to get whatever they wanna get started

[amber halo]

No clue who to take out since I need the frontline to not get deleted in seconds

[velvet belfry]

swap fawkes out for Nemora and put her in Shemiras spot, and you can reset till she charms him first, see how that works out for you

[tepid shale]

Like this? @velvet belfry

[velvet belfry]

if you have estrildas SI, its better for her to be frontline

[tepid shale]

Oh should I switch her with Rowan

[velvet belfry]

Rowan can tank, it really depends. You could probably switch her with Daimon

[tepid shale]

H ok! Ty for being patient I. Just started this not long ago

[velvet belfry]

no worries 🙂

[grand void]

Stuck on last boss of dismal lab. Smooth so far but this stage I can’t even kill 1 enemy. Any tips? Different merc?

Still have all 3 of my tears to use so I can grind it out even if it’s 1 kill at a time

[velvet belfry]

@grand void maybe put ezio or rowan across from athalia

[tepid shale]

This for second (I’ll work on their power I just need help formation lol)

[velvet belfry]

@tepid shale switch fawkes and lucius and that looks good... but you do lack damage there unless you are relying on nara to carry

who does rosaline follow there?

[tepid shale]

I feel like such a Betrayer not using satrana lol

[velvet belfry]

my suggestion is to put your gwyneth there instead of nara

[tepid shale]

And maybe talene idk 🥺 im sorry

[narrow lark]

Rowan is very good, you can throw him in there too

[tepid shale]

Ok I’ll do that but who do I replace

[velvet belfry]

with rowan? lucius fawkes rosa can all be replaced by rowan there, since theyre all support

actually rather than gwyneth you might as well put belinda there

[tepid shale]

Ok haha

[narrow lark]

Not sure. Try this lineup

1. Estrilda
2. Talene
3. Fawkes
4. Belinda
5. Lucius/Rose

Dont need any more damage since you have Estrilda and Belinda

[tepid shale]

Okie and idk if I understand estrildas sig

Does she give energy or can I not read right lol

[velvet belfry]

it reduces damage on the backline as long as shes in front and survives

[tepid shale]

Ohhhh ok

[velvet belfry]

so if shes in frontline, she will be buffing your backline

[narrow lark]

I wouldnt focus too much on her SI tbh. Getting SI 10+ should be good

[velvet belfry]

plus her offensive buff

[narrow lark]

Rowan SI is a must though

[tepid shale]

So these are the two which is better dw about power I have copies of stuff just lacking fodder rn haha

I already messed up and hers is like 20 no judging pls LOL

[velvet belfry]

switch lucius for rowan in the bottom one

[narrow lark]

^

[velvet belfry]

ad that would be a good composition

[tepid shale]

Ok btw I kept the other I just like to have two just on case one doesn’t work

[velvet belfry]

lucius is gonna start to fall off for you, rowan will be good till the very end

you just need to prioritize Rowans SI

[tepid shale]

Ok so these are two different line ups any other comments on them haha

[narrow lark]

2nd

[tepid shale]

Yeah I k I messed up on si for a little till everyone told me she’s squish and it was a bad thing lol

[narrow lark]

But maybe switch Rose for Talene or Estrilda

[velvet belfry]

yeah switch out rosa, unless she follows belinda

[tepid shale]

Ok which would be better

[velvet belfry]

if she doesnt, shes gonna be useless

[tepid shale]

I only need one more talene copy to get her to legendary 🥺

[narrow lark]

Shes gonna follow Rowan

[velvet belfry]

lolll rosa following rowan is always so funny

[tepid shale]

So maybe her? Idk haha

[narrow lark]

Damn you're 1 away from L Talene? I don't even have a copy yet

[tepid shale]

I’m bad at line ups like irl what they do I just don’t understand ahah

I stargaze her a lot tbh 👀

[velvet belfry]

either works. it will depend on the stage. but generally, talene will give you a bit more utility than estrilda at your stage. estrilda really shines best on gwyneth comps when everyone is built

[narrow lark]

Oh you have Lyca and Daimon?

[tepid shale]

I also one time threw in 500 just to try and see what I’d get and I got her

Yes lol owo

[velvet belfry]

i need one more copy of twins for L Twins

[narrow lark]

In that case try running

1. Estrilda
2. Talene
3. Lyca
4. Rowan
5. Daimon

[tepid shale]

I’ll make a third like up haha

[velvet belfry]

you could actually probably run satrana as a carry rn lol

but youre better off with the comps youve already worked on

but if youre ever stuck, it doesnt hurt to try and slot her in

[tepid shale]

Satrana is a babe she always does everything

[velvet belfry]

satrana was my earlygame carry

unfortunately i never got copies of her since

[tepid shale]

👀it lowkey make me sad she’s just sitting there

[narrow lark]

Could always swap her with daimon as well

[tepid shale]

Honestly she’s cool she heals tanks and does good damage so she is good still for now idk how she is late game tho so 👀

[velvet belfry]

satrana is someone you would run in lieu of daimon or belinda

[narrow lark]

And if you're creating different comps Daimon works a lot better with Nara and Ferael

[tepid shale]

I heard daimon is better I k it’s for the best I just like her

I gotta build Nara I have farael at leg plus

[velvet belfry]

satrana has been good in lategame since her rework/furniture but rn where you have her shes just a niche unit

[narrow lark]

Yeah the synergy between the 3 is nice

[amber halo]

@velvet belfry when nemora charms my whole team is dead xD

[tepid shale]

Can u believe I still have no tasi even tho she’s been on my wl since day one

[velvet belfry]

once u get mauler tower, that satrana is gonna do a lot of work

[tepid shale]

And I’ve spent scrolls for her on faction 😩

And I heard she’s amazing but she hates me

[amber halo]

i got 7.. its tilting me that im not getting the last one ive played for 55 days

[tepid shale]

I have tower already haha I just don’t have a grave team

[amber halo]

tho i never spent scrolls on wilder faction xD

[tepid shale]

I use my cards to get her I just gave up the

[narrow lark]

@tepid shale what gb heroes you got?

[tepid shale]

I just will accept I won’t have tasi

[velvet belfry]

youll get her eventually

[tepid shale]

I’m ngl I’m not wasting my time on shem so not her

[velvet belfry]

ive pulled so many shem copies naturally i got to use her, but all my mats have gone towards dimensionals

[tepid shale]

But here they are and I k she falls off so that’s why I won’t invest

I’m also ngl I fed the ninja guy to daimon cause I heard he sucks bad

[narrow lark]

Kelthur?

[tepid shale]

And I’m not building him like I k we shouldn’t feed them but it’s ok

[narrow lark]

Yeah Kelthur overall is pretty bad. I find he does decent in AE tho

[tepid shale]

I needed this more than him atm and yes

[velvet belfry]

i wouldnt do that again tho

[narrow lark]

^

[tepid shale]

I fed a legendary plus serius to my lyca so 😌🤷‍♀️

[velvet belfry]

almost every champ has a place.... besides ulmus

[narrow lark]

Even if they're bad, the meta could shift at any point so not really worth using ascension tier heroes as food

[tepid shale]

Yeah but I’ll just Yanno try for them later

[velvet belfry]

ive only ever fed ascended once and it was ulmus back when i didnt know anything

[narrow lark]

I did the same when I first started. Used Cecillia to feed my Belinda to M

[tepid shale]

Tbh I just asked players who are at chap 30 and they said it shouldn’t affect me really unless they get a giant buff

Just those 2 tho the others are no

Oh I wanted to feed Cecilia to my Rowan

[narrow lark]

Cecillia is really nice in AE

[tepid shale]

But they told me no 👀 so I listened

[velvet belfry]

yeah thats the thing they could always get buffed

[narrow lark]

Cecillia is pretty good. Just no heroes really synergize with her

[tepid shale]

Well ty guys for the lineup help owo

[narrow lark]

👍

[small cove]

Suggestions? I die no matter who nemora charma

[amber halo]

also when ferael is charmed??

if yes u can maybe change rosaline with lyca to get the haste boost maybe it will do the trick

@small cove

[small cove]

Yeah when ferael is charmed grezhul kills shemira

[amber halo]

im against the same fking team at 21-53 just where niru and ferael positions are different. But just put shemira 5 lyca 2 lucius 1 rowan 3

ur lucius need heals from rowan. Best case would be rowan in 2 if he doesnt get 1 shot to heal both lucius and shemira

@small cove

but if u got shemira in the back she might survive. and with lyca haste and rowan healing lucius he should be able to ult

alna trial should also do the trick since shes immune the first 7 seconds and is pretty strong if shes frontline and ur shemira is backline like alna 1 lucius 2 shemira 3 rowan 5 nemora 4... too bad rowan cant be in 4 tho

maybe u win if u forget nemora (if ferael doesnt 1 shot u) alna 1 lucius 2 shemira 3 rowan 4 lyca 5

There are a lot of formations u can try and im sure one of them will win that battle for sure

[small cove]

Thank you for your help! Going to try those

[restive pike]

Need help with a team for Campaign 11-35

No idea why the lion guy is in there rn, usually i got lucretia in

[amber halo]

lucius shemira ferael rowan rosaline u can try that. I just said shemira since its the easiest way to form faction bonus, u could use ainz instead of shemira which might even be a better choice in that lineup where ainz is in the back. In that pick u sent u should have rowan in middle. right now he cant heal lucius

[restive pike]

ferael in front?

[amber halo]

brutus doesnt really fit in what u have there and ur ainz should be in line with mirael since ainz would maybe get 1 shot. put rowan 4 ainz 5 at least. Maybe more changes are needed but at least that

nono ferael in back my friend :D. ferael 3 in what i said with shemira xD

and rowan should be in spot 4 in any case to be able to heal and refill energy to everyone

[restive pike]

But who goes in front then? Rosaline?

[amber halo]

lucius and shemira

[restive pike]

Why would i use shemira, she deals way less dmg than ainz and he's my only dmg source atm

[amber halo]

true thats why another comp is way stronger with lucius 1 brutus/lyca 2 rosaline 3 rowan 4 ainz 5

in early game shemira is tanky carry which was the only reason why i told u to use her as she could serve the purpose of both

but u should never have ur carry in the same line as the enemy mirael thats suicide xD

but u should experiment with the comps since if u use shemira u can use ferael + get full faction bonus in the first team i told you @restive pike

[restive pike]

She dies way too fast in the frontline

[amber halo]

did u try ainz in 5 from ur pic and lyca in 2 instead of brutus for haste buff with rowan in middle back?

[restive pike]

omg

I use lucreatia for the 30% defense buff

[amber halo]

why u use lucretia u need haste buff from lyca xD. And u only need 1 carry. right now ainz + lucretia is ur carries

i see so u already tried with lyca or?

[restive pike]

No i didnt try her yet, i dont really see that working better than having lucretia in for the buff alone to keep lucius alive longer

[amber halo]

lyca makes everyone on your team ult faster

[restive pike]

But thats useless if they dont survive long enough to ult :D

[amber halo]

so lucius wont ult a single time with lyca even if u retried 10-15 times?

i try many different comps and retry like 100 times to know if they work or not xD

i dont understand why u havent tried it. how can you say everyone is dead before they ult if u havent tried it xD

[restive pike]

The most important thing with my team is to get ainz ult of twice in a row.
And with lucretia that happens 80% of the time

and the 10 times i tried with lyca he only managed to do so once

[amber halo]

well then u can have lucius in 2 and lyca in 1 so lucius wont die to mirael. either lyca in 1 or lucretia. But i never see how lucretia would work

[restive pike]

As i said, the 30% defense she gives to everyone helps them survive long enough for ults etc

[amber halo]

but if ur losing u have to do smth different am i right? xD

[restive pike]

So after trying with this one which works better 20 times youre telling me i have to use your lyca thing 150 tiems otherwise "i havent even really tried it"?
Yeah ill just stick to my own plan lmao

Which btw just worked

[amber halo]

The reason I say u shouldn't be using Lucretia is because she is a carry and so is ainz. No team is made of 2 carries and she's only e+ u need a support there instead. Only comps u use multiple carries is Safiya Eironn comps. Alright good i just told u few suggestions. And it's from my own opinion. I saw u used ainz in 3 which is not good since mirael is in line on the other side to 1 shot ur ainz. And that rowan wasn't in middle back to heal ur whole team. I just tried to help and I'm glad you made it through!

I just gave you suggestions since ur the one who can test it i can't xD

[amber halo]

u could use fawkes instead of cecilia to coffin one and dont have belinda lined up with nemora since ur belinda might get charmed

and probably lyca instead of thoran is a better choice

@pale monolith

• fawkes counters their brutus

isnt alna a better choice than brutus? if not then tasi since u need cc to shut them down. If not u can try albedo instead. I just think there are better choices than brutus in ur lineup

and what is the reason that rowan is not in middle back or in position 2? is his si +30?

alright but wouldnt alna stall as much? shes immune to damage first 7 seconds of battle? she looks stronger

and i guess u can stall more if rowan is in position 4

[pale kettle]

Which are my best 5 ascended

[amber halo]

why did u level up so many? u should only level 5 and put the rest in resonating crystal?

[pale kettle]

Because ascended is better than legendary heroes

I leveled them up before i unlocked it

[amber halo]

u could reset them and get resources again to make some of ur heroes 61 or even 81

[pale monolith]

Fawkes kept getting rooted by Arden so I switched Brutus with Cecilia and it worked

[pale kettle]

That would cost gems though which ate for pulls

[amber halo]

@pale monolith awesome great work @pale kettle its only 20 diamonds to get all resources back its never a bad idea

[pale kettle]

Which are the best 5

[tranquil radish]

Would like some help

[amber halo]

@pale kettle its hard to say since u dont have any elite + heroes yet but probably the top 5

[tranquil radish]

Ignore heroes al lvl 3 and 2😅

[pale kettle]

I meant in terms of hero tiers/which heros are the more powerful heros to try and lvl up

[amber halo]

@tranquil radish why is ur shemira so close to mirael? thats just asking to get 1 shotted xD

@pale kettle in early game u should focus on the heroes u get highest ascension first and focus on one carry hero

[tranquil radish]

That's the formation that got me closest to winning tasi banished her when she was about to ult

[amber halo]

did u try lucius 1 shemira 5 arden 3 and root mirael?

[tranquil radish]

Lucius dies instantly

[amber halo]

lucius maybe 2 if he gets oneshotted and alna 1

[tranquil radish]

Alna doesn't gets to activate her immunity when at 1

[amber halo]

rowan instead of tasi maybe

[tranquil radish]

Still no help😭

[amber halo]

talene might be better tho - u desperately need the healer

or even lyca isnt a bad idear

[tranquil radish]

Am I at the point where I need to just go afk for two-three days

[amber halo]

not sure but arden tasi lyca + shemira and alna or shemira and lucius try that maybe

[tranquil radish]

Pray for me Imma go try

[amber halo]

with ur current power u should be able to clear chapter 13

[slate zinc]

Hey, i‘m fairly new to this game and was wondering, if you could give some help creating teams for challenger arena

[tranquil radish]

No help :(

[amber halo]

that sucks. u got duras blade on shemira?

[tranquil radish]

I don't have that in chapter 13🙄

It's from viper's marsh that unlocks after 14-4

[amber halo]

oh i see. When having shemira carry rowan is kinda needed since it helps her out by a lot

[tranquil radish]

Alna can't prock even with lyca against astrilda

[amber halo]

fawkes and lucius too and then some kind of tank/support like alna yeah. I see. u can see what i got and it worked pretty well so far. Tho a wilder team like lyca tasi and arden is pretty strong early game

[tranquil radish]

When does rowan atarts refreshing his potions

[amber halo]

I use this and i think it was 141 not 100÷ sure

[tranquil radish]

I can't see your image

[amber halo]

but the energy is just as important since shemira ults pretty fast then when u have duras call on rowan

u should be able to see the image in a moment

[tranquil radish]

I can now

[wide gust]

any chance for help? i cant beat it been stuck for days now

[tranquil radish]

So I'm thinking of shemira alna rowan/rose lucius fawkes

[amber halo]

yes 100% thats pretty good and if u get ainz hes way better than shemira or even daimon

[tranquil radish]

I will be able to get only one of them amd will get ainz for sure

[amber halo]

@wide gust ainz instead of daimon lyca in 2 ferael in 3 rowan in 4 ainz in 5

and link ainz with shemira since shemira is easy to ascend @tranquil radish

[wide gust]

does ainz need +10 since i only unlocked his si? daimon is stacked tho

[amber halo]

@icy plume well against that team ainz can oneshot them no?

[wide gust]

not really

so daimon? or ainz?

[amber halo]

daimon maybe... i just didnt get the luck for daimon so i use ainz xD and im hardstuck at 21-53 xD

[wide gust]

well im hardstuck at 20-37 and i got really lucky with daimon so i will use him but im so desperate rn to beat been stuck for days was hoping maybe someone can help me beat it

[amber halo]

exactly me too xD @icy plume didnt talene and rosaline help you quite a bit on that fight? xD

yeah tho i think in my case i just hope for eiron safiya carry god comp after i finished ascending and making 240 on my main team it should be pretty strong xD

rn shemira is falling off hard. Im soon counting her as "trash" xD

and lucius attack rating is so damn low so his ult is getting trash too xD

yeah i see and lucius fall off as well im sure of it xD

[outer gyro]

Can I get a hand please? I’ve been stuck on this stage for ages. I just get nuked tf out within the first few seconds before I can get any heals off

[pale kettle]

Just got drez should i replace antandra with drez for 70% defense reduction

[raw rune]

do you have fawkes or tasi?, they should be able to get rid of mirael @outer gyro

[tranquil radish]

It worked

[amber halo]

@tranquil radish what did u do to make it work?

[tranquil radish]

Talene(drape) alna lucius(call) fawkes(drape) shemira(eye)

It was a clutch save by Lucius

[amber halo]

nice one when u get rowan to l+ or further u should use him instead of talene it will be a pretty solid comp for now

tho normally u would use drape on lucius and grace on fawkes

and call on rowan

[tranquil radish]

Yup but I needed those shields quick so used it on him

[amber halo]

yeah nice work 😄

[tranquil radish]

😁 thanks for the help 🙏😉

I had moved on from fawkes

Thanks for bringing back my faith on him

[amber halo]

haha no worries yeah hes pretty solid 😄 great support

[tranquil radish]

Will bother you guys when I'll be stuck on 14-4 😄

[amber halo]

haha good luck xD and please get rowan up quickly hes a god xD

[amber halo]

@pale monolith use lyca instead of thoran

[pale kettle]

Should i replace antandra for drez

[pale monolith]

She dies in 5 seconds at max

[polar wagon]

Need help

[amber halo]

shes mostly used for the haste buff tho its hard to say what else u can do maybe rowan 2 and lyca 4 or lyca 2 rowan 4 maybe u can win with retries?

[pale monolith]

Ill try thx

The problem is that Niru cuz he heals 500k

And if I manage to kill him it's Brutus

[amber halo]

if u manage to kill niru are u not doing manual to fawkes ult when brutus immune since it removes his immune?

[pale monolith]

I realised that Brutus immunity is not affected by 2x or 4x so I usually remove the 2x so the shield goes down faster

[pale kettle]

Why is nobody answering my question in here or in the questions section

[amber halo]

@pale kettle u should use ur highest ascension tiers and only use one carry. U can get a lot of free pulls if u search on google "afk arena gift codes" then u can get some higher ascension to know what team to build. Remember to have a stable wishlist before u start summoning. When u only got elite heroes its hard to say what u should go for

[pale kettle]

But certain heros have to be better then others as a unit in any given team

Also that's awesome to notate about free pulls o.o thanks a mill

[pale monolith]

Passed it thx alot @amber halo

[amber halo]

well but u are not guaranteed to get copies of them and when u get to summon heroes u might get others in higher ascension = they are stronger. When i was in early game i focused on shemira in the labyrinth store

@pale monolith perfect and forget about thoran for now hes only elite + xD

[pale monolith]

No, he is a great meat shield and he does 200k every match

[amber halo]

ok but imo lyca is way stronger right now xD

[pale monolith]

Ye underestimated her, she dealt quite alot

[amber halo]

• it helps ur team ult way faster and its good for ur belinda carry xD

the only damage u need right now is belinda tbh xD and brutus for stall

[pale monolith]

Idc what others say Belinda op as hecc if they are stacked team goes away innone Ultimate

[amber halo]

exactly and lyca helps a lot too with that

her buff is amazing

[polar wagon]

Estrilda also gives energy

[pale monolith]

Also I have alot of copies for Thoran

And Lyca,I can get Lyca to ascended cuz I have 2 more copies of her to E+

[amber halo]

dont get me wrong thoran is op lategame. I would focus lyca and belinda to ascended asap 😄

[pale monolith]

Thoran cheese 👀

[amber halo]

and rowan signature item to +30 hes a god when he gets that. Oh yeah thats good too @pale monolith it depends on what u want to focus on in ur team 😄 u got a lot of options

[pale monolith]

K

Now that Farel is really annoying

[amber halo]

if u have nemora he counters ferael with charm thats how i usually dealt with ferael xD

[pale monolith]

Ye I have her on Crystal but replace her with what

[amber halo]

yeah u will win that fight with nemora in 4 with rng to charm ferael. Instead of fawkes

[pale monolith]

K

Oke I took him out now only need some RMG

[polar wagon]

If someone could help me with that

[amber halo]

@pale monolith yep xD

The only way you win is when u charm ferael @pale monolith

@polar wagon im sure u need fawkes + rowan in that fight

@polar wagon rowan 1 tasi 2 safiya 3 eironn 4 lyca 5.. ohh where is ur tasi?

[polar wagon]

E+ only

[pale monolith]

Oke oke I won but charmed Belinda

[polar wagon]

And i dont even have enough copies to make a leg+

[amber halo]

@pale monolith wauw haha good job

@polar wagon u could thoran cheese like this oh jesus where is ur ezizh? xD

but usually goes like this ezizh 1 thoran 2 lorsan 3 athalia 4 nara 5

[polar wagon]

My ezih does not exist tbh

[amber halo]

ohh i got the best idea

lorsan 1 thoran 2 ferael 3 rowan 4 nara 5

[pale kettle]

After putting in all the codes i got 4 free 10 pulls wich only got me to elites which ascended wu kong and tidus, then from the factional i got torne

Do i need to reroll this game

[amber halo]

or kelthur 1 thoran 2 lorsan 3 nara 4 rowan 5

@polar wagon did u try those comps?

[polar wagon]

Yes

Trying also the multiple combinations of its

And The Best result was taking 4 of enemies, while Niru only survived

[amber halo]

Maybe needs rng

[polar wagon]

will try

[pale monolith]

Help I get melted instantly

[slender scroll]

Been stuck here for a while any suggestions on how I can possibly beat it? I have an open slot in my crystal if I need to add someone

[slender scroll]

@pale monolith why no ainz?

[amber halo]

@pale monolith rowan in 4 lyca in 2

[pale monolith]

Im F2P, and I'll try

[polar wagon]

Isabella decided to survive and to fuck me

[ivory parrot]

Any tips?

[sand breach]

Any tips to beat this lvl?

[split peak]

@sand breach put eironn where rowan is and switch lyca with tasi

Plus u need to work on farael if u want to effectively use this team shem doesnt belong in this comp

[bleak bridge]

Need some help

[split peak]

@bleak bridge downgrade all of ur 220s and make ur carry heroes 240 especially thoran should not be at 220 he needs to be at 240

[pale kettle]

Is there legit any hope of me beating GB tower 200 without using a merc?

[amber halo]

she needs to get hit 1 time before she starts getting immune but there she got 1 shotted so it didnt proc xD

oh well actually not hit but enough time to use the ability since its not a passive. When she get 1 shot this fast she dont have enough time to do the ability hehe

[barren loom]

Pleas help i cant kill safiya. Is there any Linup to kill her easyer ?

[amber halo]

usually she gets hit 1 time and then uses the ability @icy plume

[tranquil radish]

Made it this far using this line-up in various formations

I guess this is enough progress for one day or can I get pass this?

@amber halo what do you think 😃

[amber halo]

yes u can for sure try lucius 2 shemira 1 tasi 3 lyca 4 arden 5. If it doesnt work u need the full faction bonus using mirael instead of shemira

[tranquil radish]

Will she be able to do so?

[amber halo]

only one way to find out

[tranquil radish]

And what works best on tasy and lyca

[amber halo]

u mean artifacts?

[tranquil radish]

Yes

Still no blade as it's a bit hard to do vipers marsh

[amber halo]

eye/grace on lyca and tasi with duras call

lucius with drape

[tranquil radish]

Arden?

[amber halo]

arden call/eye

[tranquil radish]

Ok

[amber halo]

how is it going?

u could also keep talene and just sub daimon and nara to arden + lyca

@tranquil radish

[tall falcon]

line up for dealing with 4 Tasi and Saurus?

[tranquil radish]

Talene replaces whom?

Sorry my noti is off

[thorn stag]

hello um i have a little problem with my friendship points that dont get more i had 99 points yesterday i collected today but its still 99 .

[amber halo]

@tranquil radish i meant where u kept talene and sub the other 2

[tranquil radish]

Arden Tasy lyca was working better but don't seem to be able do it

@tranquil radish i meant where u kept talene and sub the other 2
@amber halo didn't work got rekt

[amber halo]

yeah alright the first one i suggested might work better maybe retry with macro to see if rng does it

[tranquil radish]

It's just comes to Lucius dying and team getting rekt

[austere lichen]

Which would be my best lineup?

[bleak bridge]

I'll give that a try. Thanks.

[split peak]

@austere lichen u need to stop making L heroes without having two e+ beforehand

[austere lichen]

@split peak but why

[split peak]

Because u will get stuck u are never guaranteed to get enough hero copies and fodder is always on short supply

[austere lichen]

@split peak ok but L is better than only Elite or Elite Plus i think

[split peak]

Thats not the point u need a path forwards L heroes might as well be E+ the difference is small but with E+ there is no investment until when the need arises

[amber halo]

@pale monolith fawkes is essential against teams with shemira

[tranquil radish]

Lyca wasn't doing much so decided to bring in Tasy and still used call on lucius and it worked after like 10 retries 😉

[austere lichen]

@split peak ok ive thought my Elite + are useless when having L

[amber halo]

haha well done @tranquil radish progress feels nice

[tranquil radish]

Very nice😁

[midnight girder]

Need help: (

[amber halo]

@midnight girder dont you have fawkes? hes essential against shemira teams tho u can use tasi if she banish their shemira

[split peak]

@austere lichen as u can see even L+ is only 25% better than e+ same lvl thats nothing when u can use that fodder for a carry hero and take it up to m or m+ where u will have a carry hero rated 100+% better than ur other heroes

[midnight girder]

@amber halo no i don't have him, not even one drop, is there any comp you reccomend?

[rigid birch]

tasi is a good fawkes sub
nara can even work when fawkes doesnt banish the backline you want for example

[amber halo]

yes like he said

[nimble shore]

i need help with team building and lucretia or the lightning guy to choose from. i need a lineup for general campaign ~ hope to have a nice time

im from server 770 , if that matters!

do i make eiron my main carry?

[rigid birch]

id say choose lucretia, and talene that early is amazing
1.Talene
2. Wukong (highest level
3. Lucius
4. Rowan (get rowan)
5. Arden

[nimble shore]

ok!!

[rigid birch]

eironn doesnt become a carry till chapter 21/22 ish

also do all faction scrolls lightbearer till you get 4 rowans and then switch to wilders

[nimble shore]

got it, will try to get rowans as i progress. thanks for the help. @rigid birch have a nice day

[rigid birch]

you too

[random bay]

Any ideas?

[rigid birch]

1. Talene
2. Shemira
3. Brutus
4. Rowan
5. Nara

try swapping rowan and nara a few times

[ionic kestrel]

Any suggestions?

[random bay]

@rigid birch it worked. Thanks man 👌

[rigid birch]

link ainz to belinda

[rigid birch]

gz

[sudden aspen]

Really trying to pass this since is the last stage of ch 14

nvm just beated it with this

[bleak bridge]

@split peak thoran at 240 def helped. Thanks:)

[queen matrix]

Starting to hit the plateau in the campaign with this lineup, any tips? I'm at 14-7 now.

[split peak]

U need a new carry hero thats why u have hit a wall all ur heroes are lvl160 choose a hero and push it to lvl200 as soon as possible

@queen matrix and please stop upgrading stuff to legendary u are waisting fodder at the most crucial junction in the game

[queen matrix]

Ooh gotcha. Thanks, I'm probably going to be picking LB to focus on in that case. Just gotta pick a hero to 200.

[bleak bridge]

How am I doing hero wise? Should I have more A ones by now?

[rigid birch]

doin great
just wasting fodder

[bleak bridge]

Yeah wanted to get all kings tower factions to 110

[pale kettle]

Are the two new heros ( celetestial and the dark girl) trash because you cant awaken them

[split peak]

@bleak bridge u will be regretting that amount of fodder waste badly especially since u choose two of the worst heroes to get to legendary

[bleak bridge]

Rain and satrana? Yeah def would do some things differently if I could start over

[split peak]

@pale kettle they are not trash but celestials and hypogens are very expensive unless u get super lucky its common to spend 20-30k gems to get just one copy from stargazer

@bleak bridge nope isabella she is terrible

[pale kettle]

So its a whales game

[bleak bridge]

Oh yh forgot about her XD

[rigid birch]

well yes, but actually no

[bleak bridge]

Alot of patience is needed for this game.

[rigid birch]

but if you have money you dont need patience

[bleak bridge]

Have you spent much getting to ch32?

[mellow kestrel]

can someone who passed this stage tell me how he did it ...

[bleak bridge]

Jesus 500...i'm stuck at 299.

[mellow kestrel]

u ill get there dw to meet this hell

[carmine igloo]

arthur, rowan, rosa, gywn, farael, in order respectively

[velvet belfry]

now that shemiras falling off, should I HCP/gaze for gwyneth or eironn? Also with dim link on Shem will Ainz suffice as a carry to push till I build one of em? I have Nako and Albedo built up- and will probably link Nako to Tidus soon.

[mellow kestrel]

ill try that thx!

[carmine igloo]

ill link a pic very soon

[mellow kestrel]

thx alot ! what was your Lineup power back then any idea?

[carmine igloo]

with that exact same lineup, its 36mil right now

theres a difference of 7 levels from that image and present time

[mellow kestrel]

got it thx alot!

[carmine igloo]

no worries, you're doing well for your level, impressive level deficit

[mellow kestrel]

thx! daimon is a monster tbh

[somber shoal]

Anyone could help me out? I'm also stuck in the Tower against the same comp

[high pivot]

Any ideas for this stage?

[onyx mason]

I’m still just getting ANNIHILATED. Please @ with any help, unless I just need a bunch more levels.

[high pivot]

@onyx mason try
Arden
Tasi/Lyca/Estrilda
Mirael
Brutus/Ferael
Nara

[onyx mason]

Lemme go try that

[high pivot]

Give it like 10 tries with each comp u test out and let me know who's dying to what and killing who

[onyx mason]

Ok

The issue is Khasos. Everything goes ‘okay’ until he gets off his ability

The team with Estrilda/ Brutus does the best.

[muted stream]

Who to build next? Im thinking eironn but thoran and saurus also seems pretty good

Ch 26 30

[high pivot]

@onyx mason swap estrilda and brutus' position. If that doesn't work try replacing brutus with either ferael lyca or tasi

[brave oriole]

@muted stream Wilders without eironn, are like a Tesla without battery

[onyx mason]

Beat it! @high pivot swapped grappling hook and arden

[muted stream]

Yeah its the old meta of 3 wilder and shem brutus frontline from abt 1.5 yrs ago. I stopped playing before eiron got realeased and now replaying it so i dont have him build yet

[high pivot]

@onyx mason congrats dude hopefully i can beat this stage soon ive been stuck on it for like 4 days

[onyx mason]

Same. This was day 4.

[onyx mason]

I love how I unlocked stargazing, but I can’t do anything with it 😂 for like a bunch more progression

[high pivot]

LMFAOOOOOOO THE NEXT ATTEMPT

[brave oriole]

@high pivot you can easy beat this, you have a mehira? So silvina would leave rowan

[onyx mason]

Gratz!

[high pivot]

I don't have a mehira sadly though silvina wasn't actually the issue at all.

[brave oriole]

@high pivot when you see shemira, tasi and rowan are the best front

[muted stream]

Ah by anychance you got a ss of 26 30? @high pivot

[high pivot]

I can check but i don't ss all my stages sadly @muted stream

[onyx mason]

What should I focus on now? Leveling, new ascensions,

[muted stream]

Dont know if shem is still worth anymore

[onyx mason]

Shem was a mistake

[brave oriole]

@somber shoal you have fawkes?

[high pivot]

@muted stream oldest i have is 26-41

[muted stream]

She used to be good because she is easily obtained from lab but with all the dimms coming rn i dont think you should build her.

[high pivot]

And i was using a gwyn comp with a flex daimon

[muted stream]

Yeah its ok thanks

[onyx mason]

What store should I hoard currency in?

I just need some guidance 😂

[high pivot]

All of em 😤

[onyx mason]

Srsly? Ughhhh lol

[rigid birch]

man i think gwyn was the flex here

[lusty wren]

I've been stuck on this stage for a few days, is waiting for dust for levels the only thing I can do?

[quick lion]

any ideas on how to beat 32-56? can't seem to figure out three comps to deal with two Tasis and a Rosaline

the first team wins by a landslide thanks to the new artifact, second team takes a lot of retries but I think Izold can do it

third team idk yet

I've tried variations of Gwyn Arthur Rosaline Talene Estrilda Wu Kong Rowan Ferael Fawkes for the final team with no success

the enemy Antandra jumps someone and they don't live

[clever patio]

Hell

[high pivot]

Gwyn in chap 23-25 gwyn and daimon would often be doing about the same amount of damage. Gwyn would open up really hard and then daimon would finish as they started to crash.

[blazing halo]

Any suggestions to beat this i suck vs ferael stages

[pale kettle]

Best possible team to beat this please?

[clever patio]

@pale kettle I’d put ur vadan in crystal and use him in place of maybe thoran. He might be better

[pale kettle]

They destroy me anyway

[rigid birch]

its just a matter of the backline being melee or ranged

[high pivot]

Yep now i have more units so i dont need to use daimon with gwyn anymore

[rigid birch]

wait for fodder and get daimon to Mythic

[inland warren]

Any advice how I should build my team composition right now with what I have

Because I'm kind of stuck at a plateau where I can't level up any of the heroes

[summer cedar]

I beat this w shem thoran fera nara daimon, and thoran was only L+ so it should be doable

[nocturne furnace]

reset the base elite heroes and put the levels into the legendary and legendary plus heroes. from that you will be able to go past level 100

[cerulean cedar]

what the hell is this bullshit

[summer cedar]

brutus alna (flexible) rowan belinda is prolly the way to go. arden or lyca probably for 3rd slot

[undone trench]

Any thought on how to beat this one? I come very close but Saveas, and the gunner dwarf barely survive.

[summer cedar]

hogan thoran mirael rowan lyca might work. otherwise throw brutus in crystal and try brutus hogan, same backline

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar

[whole heron]

Hi

Can someone advise me which to choose?

This is my team right now

[teal tree]

Need help on 9-20 and saveas dies so fast

[summer cedar]

why'd u tag me? this lineup looks like a win, except mbe swap brutus/alna. retry until shem double ults, ez

[summer cedar]

show enemies

[merry thunder]

@summer cedar Shem doesn’t even get her ult off one time

And when she does she gets insta killed by a 1v5

[summer cedar]

no brutus or rowan makes this difficult. try hogan alna arden mirael and ig saveas? not a great 5th option but is what it is

[summer cedar]

try alna shem arden rowan rosa. alternatively, since idk alna that well, try alna brutus rosa rowan shem

[stuck trellis]

@limpid cape

[wicked verge]

Just started playing, any units i should invest?

[wraith salmon]

Should i replace lyca with rosaline or Tasi? (also i am currently trying to get belinda so when i get a L+ belinda im replacing Saveas)

[ionic abyss]

I can't seem to get past this. lucius and albedo die too fast

[static stag]

Hi. Ch 11 atm, 7 days in. I want to go for Ainz-albedo comp from the start. what other 3 heroes should i get in and what substitudes? i assume i need another dimensional for albedo stone max value. I guess its arthur or the next Dimensional they announced recently. So basically who to get into free slots? rovan teline? Daimon? or some others?

[red sinew]

Need help with this

[vital portal]

Hi I need help please. Belinda or Lucius. And who is better in the shop

[rigid birch]

labstore: arthur, also dont get either up since you dont have a 2nd elite+ to get any to L+

[twin dove]

I thought everyone said to buy shemira

[eager igloo]

theres more viable carries now

[summer cedar]

in the olden days that was good advice. she's been powercrept hard. still usable up to like ch23

[glossy furnace]

Can someone please help me out i have been stuck here for a while

[rocky lily]

Here is my issue

Right now I'm going for lb bonus since I pretty heavily rely on rowan. Estrilda is cc. They still do too much damage but best I can come up with

[vital kernel]

You need more cc, try using arden instead of estrilda

[rocky lily]

Tried that, he just flops

[vital kernel]

The factional bonus is negligible honestly

[rocky lily]

Well hogan still lives longer than thoran and stuns as well, I just thought maybe it would help lol

I can try arden again

[atomic forge]

stuck

[summer cedar]

#lineup-help message

[atomic forge]

funny how my heroes got higher level , more stars , better furn and better SI

yet am stuck and this img guy passed it with the exact same comp

[summer cedar]

gear. plus rng matters a LOT when it comes to ezizh, just retry

I'd argue dodge does more for survivability than 50 levels of hp and defense

[atomic forge]

well am confident its not gear difference since i got 3 heroes full T2 faction gear and the 4th 2 out of 4 gear is faction..

as for 5th ( fereal ) well just T2 but 0 faction

[summer cedar]

eironn comps tend to have success rates below 1 in 50, but they work, eventually. since ur admittedly much higher, just keep trying

[vital kernel]

Dunno if this helps but this was my 29-60

[atomic forge]

am able to survive till athalia just uses her ability and one shot all my team

[summer cedar]

also, artifact should be grace on whoever is across from athalia.

[vital kernel]

Just get lyca to dodge athalia, will take some rng but it's possible

[atomic forge]

its rowan that is across athalia and he already dodges almost 90% of her attacks xD

[pale kettle]

32-19 Hero level 330 - any screenshots?^^

[vital kernel]

Rowan in the front though so he can tank

[summer cedar]

tf?? both pippi and stonehit's screenshots suggest not putting rowan there. should be trying their lineups as they are, not just the same heroes

[atomic forge]

nvm got it

[vital kernel]

He can tank brutus more efficiently than lyca imo and you have a better chance of getting potion to eironn

[atomic forge]

for some reason eironn just had 3 tornadoes roaming the fight freezing everyone

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions @dull barn

[vital kernel]

I'd recommend asking in #classic-questions

[dull barn]

Got it 👍

[vital kernel]

Were you being facetious lol

[summer cedar]

that was in response to mogdy, not you. I agree with you, rowan frontline is p good

[atomic forge]

passed it with rowan in the middle :P

thing is i got no problem tanking that brutus for days.. its athalia that wipes me once she uses her ability

[summer cedar]

feel like ur missing the point here. fully kitted lyca has better dodge than fully kitted rowan, and so athalia is likely to miss more swings and charge her ult slower. stage by stage, rowan works fine at 4, but for this particular stage, lyca tends to do better there

[pale kettle]

tried switching saf+eiron also - dont wanna use merc

[pale kettle]

@agoros#4399

[brave wagon]

Have you tried cheesing?

Nvm didn't see your thoran

[meager sedge]

no need to cheese. thats a free izold stage

[pale kettle]

I tried izold. He ult but oneshot😁

[stuck trellis]

@ThePlaqueRat#9753
merc reset coming soon anyways

[meager sedge]

u need to put him in front of skreg. the mini skregs trigger his sig passive for some reason after he ulted

[stuck trellis]

wait I can't read

[pale kettle]

thanks @stuck trellis

@meager sedge y and Izold oneshot by Eiron

[meager sedge]

so you put the nara on eironn. also once izold ulted and triggered sig a few times there is no way he dies to eironn

[pale kettle]

all my heros alife - Izold ult -Izold died as first all other died @meager sedge

[meager sedge]

i repeat. izold needs to trigger his signature item or he does not survive

triggering sig means ult then enemies need to die

[hard forge]

@stuck trellis do you just screenshot every stage that you pass lol

[stuck trellis]

yep

[velvet belfry]

hey thats a good thing to do

helpful reference for other players

[stuck trellis]

started in ch 28 and haven't stopped since then

[hard forge]

Wow, that’s crazy, good idea though

[stuck trellis]

my gallery is pretty funny though

[hard forge]

Eironn safiya, daimon, and thoran cheese the go tos?

[pale lagoon]

Depends when u are in the game
@stuck trellis if u need help I can help u out in half an hour or so?

[stuck trellis]

eironn 5 pull, daimon, thoran, gwyn are my most common for multis

[pale lagoon]

Anyone got any ideas? Estrilda DMG tho is disgusting

[stuck trellis]

does shem get poisoned there? @pale lagoon

[pale lagoon]

@stuck trellis yes and do u mean webbed lol. Are u actually 4-32? U seem... Knowledgeable

[hard forge]

32-4 maybe?

[pale lagoon]

Lmao

[stuck trellis]

swap shem and rowan, nemora out for tasi/fawes/lyca

if lucius isn't casting, swap him out for brutus

32-20 right now

[pale lagoon]

Where is my DMG then

[stuck trellis]

shemira
ur just moving her back

[hard forge]

Shem

[stuck trellis]

if she gets poisoned she won't cast her ult so u lose

[pale lagoon]

Oh I see
Tasi
=Rowan
Shemira
=Talene
Brutus/Lucius?

[stuck trellis]

yep

[pale lagoon]

KK Ty :)

[pale kettle]

@meager sedge ur right - Signature items need just tigger - fun^^

@meager sedge thanks

[pale lagoon]

Anybody know a formation guide?

[glossy furnace]

Can someone please help me out i have been stuck here for a while

[pale kettle]

@glossy furnace

[pale lagoon]

Poor fareal got tapped

[pale kettle]

Saurus, Tasi, Rowan, Twins call- ferael attack speed if I remember right @glossy furnace

[glossy furnace]

@pale kettle worked, thanks m8

[pale kettle]

ur welcome 🙂 wich u nice progress @glossy furnace

[glossy furnace]

Used faweks instead of ferael by mistake but worked as well

[pale kettle]

u have more heros as me - so if u stuck ping me, I have normaly screenshots for stages u missed just Izold @glossy furnace

[proud edge]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

try skreg for Satrana @proud edge

[proud edge]

@pale kettle no luck, satrana seems to do better

[pale kettle]

so change skreg with tidus

[proud edge]

no dice. Tidus and safiya last the longest by far

[pale kettle]

show me artefacts u use

[pale kettle]

Give Brutus Vitality also, saf call - Tidus blade/Attack speed - Skriath call

[proud edge]

That and a swap of tidus and skreg, plus numisu fro skriath did it, thanks

[pale kettle]

gz

[pale lagoon]

@red sinew what did u need? if u need u can DM me because it takes a while to text here (slowmode timer haha). anyways, i would use ainz instead of cecilia maybe?

[red sinew]

@pale lagoon just struggling vwith this level. Ainz for Cecilia didn't work. Plus my frontline gets shafted quickly

[pale lagoon]

whos dealing most of the dmg? kaz? u can try albedo instead of lucretia. does lucius get his ultimate off?

[forest cliff]

I need some help. Tasi and lyca kill me, and nemora just negates any dmg I do

[pale lagoon]

@forest cliff u've tried swapping it (upside down) right?

[forest cliff]

uhh that worked, thanks

[supple hemlock]

Anything I can do here or is it RIP till i can level up more. The damage on shemira is beyond insane

[red sinew]

@pale lagoon nevermind, somehow made something work 😅

[summer cedar]

who does tasi banish?

[supple hemlock]

Lemme check, I swapped to Rowan because I was getting melted too quickly

the graveborn guy in the backline center. Ferael, Farael, something 😄

[granite pier]

Possible to do this without Nara?

[summer cedar]

that's good. fera's spirits are awful to deal with. try brutus alna belinda rowan tasi

[supple hemlock]

No Talene? alrighty

[summer cedar]

talene healing isn't always necessary, esp since rowan is there

[summer cedar]

technically athalia is an option too. It might be possible without either, but I wouldn't advise trying it, as I can't guarantee it'll work.

[granite pier]

@summer cedar would E+ athalia or nara work😂

I guess I can try

[summer cedar]

I don't even think powercap will let you but it did get decreased. I wouldn't bother as you may be trying 100+ times for no reason. I'd merc a nara just to get to next chapter

[tidal spear]

Anyone got a good setup for the most recent trials of god (fallen souls)?

[granite pier]

Yea it got decreased I should be able to

Yea worst case I’m gonna merc

[supple hemlock]

@summer cedar Got melted twice as fast 😂 rowan is only E+ so thats why prolly

[summer cedar]

most lineups warrant at least 20 tries before calling it quits, assuming none of them got close- if u were one ult away or something I'd keep trying. gimmicky lineup- brutus belinda arden rowan tasi

[stuck trellis]

@glossy furnace

[glossy furnace]

@stuck trellis tnx already got it

[stuck trellis]

oh nice!

@Jaaku#8931 also btw tasi is almost always frontline
in front of lyca

[forest cliff]

mine likes to die though

[fathom sage]

Looking for some help from some top tier PvP guys. I need 2 more lines for my Legends Challenger Tourney team lineup.

My first team is Eironn, Rowan, Tasi, Lyca, Ferael.

Looking to add 2 more teams, and im fine with figuring it out long term (leveling up a character or two to fill out the team properly). I dont play Tanks or Mage's, all Ranger, Warrior and Support.
Some heroe's I have geared and ready to go. Izold and Talene are SI 20, full T2, 3/9 inn. I have an Ezio but getting him faction gear has proven difficult. I have Wukong, Saurus, Fawkes, and Warek at M+, Nara at M, Twins at Leg +, Gwyn and Ezizh at Leg, and Athalia, theowyn, Zolrath at Elite +.

What team 2 and 3 can i put together with those options (willing to level up the Legendary/elite's to ascended, just want to know what to focus). I would LIKE to be able to use Izold, Talene, and Ezio in these comps if possible.

[muted stream]

Why does athalia atk rowan in this case?

Shouldnt she agro the alna?

[slender scroll]

Any suggestions on how I can beat this? My backline gets nuked in a few seconds

[cold cove]

ur lineup sucks for this ngl

I used a skreg for this iirc, borrow one as merc if u dont have

[tepid shale]

I have to use 5 different faction hero’s to win the final prize can anyone help

[twin oracle]

Any kind souls have a suggestion

[summer cedar]

alna luci lyca/tasi arden daimon (No rowan??!! I cri)

[twin oracle]

ye still 0 rowan pulls

who in frontline @summer cedar ?

[summer cedar]

so I share formations from 1-5 (they're painted on the floor if u remove all heroes from ur side on formation screen). so alna 1 (top front) luci 2 (bottom front)
tldr, wipe the screen and tap them in the order I typed them.

[twin oracle]

ok ty ty

luci is lucretia ight?

[summer cedar]

luci is lucius. sorry ab that. lucretia isn't really playable in campaign at E+ past lvl 120ish

[twin oracle]

aha ok ty

[summer cedar]

bouncing around too many channels at this moment. my b

[twin oracle]

just seems ill be stuck here till i get some ascended heroes , when mirael ults everything melts

[proud edge]

Any ideas?

[faint ibex]

I've been stuck retrying this for 3 days now, I broke the 141 lvl cap today, so I was wondering if there were any new suggestions. The only big change I noticed was brutus' invincibility time increased

[pulsar crest]

pls help fix

[rugged bane]

It's very hard to get to Isabella and Morvus who just one-shot when they ult