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[primal jasper]

I used my 1st 10x stargaze on rowan to be fair he's so hard to pull :p

[slender scroll]

Same

[primal jasper]

Anyone kind enough to help me? Every hero is getting 1shot by kaz..

Mu luci has call but she's immune to his knockdown anyway

If I'm lucky enough to survive, Mirael just oneshots everyone so it'a been hard. I'll try putting in tasi to banish mira. But then again I need mira to die

Aaand tasi gets oneshot by silv. Hmm not an option I guess

I've tried about 50 times but nothing.

[midnight dew]

id level rowan and put him in the front, his ult will help you a lot, then id put shemira behind lucius on the 4th or 6th slot so she gets to live until she pulls an ult that hopefully turns into two ults with rosas help

[primal jasper]

I'm waiting till his 20× to put him in front

He's at 17. I heard his 20+ increases his dodge, before that he isnt viable frontline

But I could try what u suggested. Do I rickety luci and bring him to 160?

[midnight dew]

hes still a higher ascension level than the rest of your heroes, im pretty sure he can tank better than shemira. it wouldnt hurt to try and youre gonna need him at 161 sooner or later

[midnight dew]

im not so sure about that

[glossy pagoda]

Alway try brutus, if lucius dies faster than 7 seconds

[midnight dew]

oh also i dont think any of your heroes can take a belinda ult so id try to keep the heroes i need the most on the other side of the field. its safe to put rosa in the 6th slot since shes gonna follow shemira to the 4th slot

with a bit of luck rowans ult will stun kaz and help lucius activate his ult

[glossy pagoda]

@raw rune try
Tasi
Belinda
Rowan
Lyca
Arden
And atleast 20 time
Mehira in rowans place is also always worth a try

[primal jasper]

Ok @nota noted :p

[midnight dew]

btw im a little bit behind you by like 10 or so stages but this is the kind of logic ive been using to get this far so dont yell at me if this doesnt work

[raw rune]

tried 20 times and it didn't work, mehira didn't work at all

[glossy pagoda]

Did u already try Belinda in the lower Frontline, where actual damage is incoming, how well can she tank it, if rowan is around?

[raw rune]

she can tank fine actually, it's just the rest of the team...

[midnight dew]

i just checked and im at 16-32

[glossy pagoda]

Other options are
Is using brutus or thoran to stall in the 2nd FL spot, and use all three Wilders in backline

[primal jasper]

@midnight dew let me know how it goes :p

[raw rune]

i can literally only kill grezhul without rosa fawkes

but then belinda is dead by the time niru is alone

[rigid birch]

yo can you reply to the msg with the stage you stuck at? @raw rune

[glossy pagoda]

I would recommend
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Belinda
Arden
With just restart any try where arden roots grezhul u want to hit estrilda lyca and niru, and then blast estrilda and niru first with Belinda

[rigid birch]

if that doesnt work maybe
Arden
---->Brutus
Rowan
---->Belinda
Fawkes

[glossy pagoda]

Because both estrilda and niru buff nirus stats when anyone on ur team dies

[raw rune]

shemira isn't even banished

[rigid birch]

put your best gear on fawkes

[glossy pagoda]

To who does niru walk?

[raw rune]

ok nvm shemira is but occasionally
always top front niru walks to

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe switch arden and tasis positions, if arden can root estrilda befor her charge, that is

[rigid birch]

Fawkes
---->Brutus
Arden
---->Belinda
Rowan

if niru runs up ofc

[raw rune]

tasi just dies to shemira that way and even if estrilda is rooted she still charges right after
and no, arden has call

[glossy pagoda]

Does tasi have call?

She should banish befor silence with call

[raw rune]

i doubt arden can root without it

[rigid birch]

maybe arden wont work here bc estrilda and niru

[glossy pagoda]

Ur call is still 1*?

[raw rune]

yes, dismal descent is ridiculously hard, as soon as i reach the saveas mauler fight i lose

[rigid birch]

swap talene and belinda's positions?

also take out arden for tasi

[glossy pagoda]

I found descent surprisingly easy with both tasi and mehira in team, but I had shemira on that account not Belinda, so not sure if u could replicate that

[raw rune]

shemira has silence so maybe that would help

[raw rune]

everyone gets oneshot by saveas

[rigid birch]

brutus in for talene

[glossy pagoda]

And nara for belinda

[raw rune]

and plus I'm not there rn i reset I can get there quickly

[glossy pagoda]

Nara on vurk

[raw rune]

what team should i use and what arti

[glossy pagoda]

Well u have the saurus to depend on so its best to use early fights to charge useful ultimates such as tasi and mehira

[raw rune]

so use tasi and mehira at start and then what do i replace them with until then?

[glossy pagoda]

If u don't mind a bit of gear swapping that is😅

[raw rune]

currently i have
rosa

belinda
rowan
saurus
fawkes

[glossy pagoda]

I could c
Rosa
Talene
Mehira
Saurus
Rowan as good to go team(sometimes mirrored depending on enemy,

[rigid birch]

^
sometimes swap rosa out for tasi and you can manual so hers and mehiras dont overlap

[raw rune]

ok so charge tasi's ult on rosa's slot at the start?

[rigid birch]

charge tasi's and use her+mehira for the hard battles

[raw rune]

alright

[glossy pagoda]

Replace rowan in easy fights to charge the other heroes ultimates so u can use them as u c fit such as fawkes for brutus, Belinda for burst and tasi for more cc

[raw rune]

so not replace rosa?

[glossy pagoda]

Just try what works best to u, its a long time ago I did this stuff, and we didn't had mercs for that at the time

[uncut stone]

Stuck. Help?

[raw rune]

dang this really is good, i'm struggling less on fights i struggled on before even while changing out rowan, mehira is op in this

[glossy pagoda]

Ye she certainly is

[raw rune]

ok the last morvus fight was hard though i had to use both belinda and mehira ults

are the only ones i need to save mehira belinda fawkes and tasi?

or should i just save all of them

[glossy pagoda]

Well if u c that u win without any more ults there is no need to use them ofc

[raw rune]

alright

[lime fjord]

When i get ainz, who should i link it to? I have a one-star oscar and antandra, and the rest are mythic+ down

[glossy pagoda]

Probaply the one who is ur overleveled carry most of the time, so u have the option to switch from melee carry to ranged

[lime fjord]

Thx i thought i should link it to like second best so i still have other good heroes

[glossy pagoda]

Well this would be an option, if u team is generally good at surviving until ainzes all life is dead thing, otherwise his only use is carry

[uncut stone]

Now this i need help with. Anyone?

[glossy pagoda]

Do u happen to have a nara or athalia or an e+ arden further down ur box?

[uncut stone]

nope

very unlucky with rolls. 1 in 5 chance for an elite copy of a particular hero

[glossy pagoda]

Tasi banishes Isa?

[uncut stone]

Vurk is the one wrecking my entire team

[glossy pagoda]

Ye I would have recommended nara on vurk

I don't think Belinda Frontline is good here, since vurk gonna poison, doesn't he?

[uncut stone]

i havent seen the poison once because everyone just falls once the battle starts

[glossy pagoda]

Who has lower defense Stat between rowan and tasi, do both of them have mythic gear?

[uncut stone]

been hating golus and grezhul as enemy frontlines for some time now

[uncut stone]

nope. still trying to obtain more mythic gear at the moment

rowan is having the lower defence stat

[glossy pagoda]

Hmm ok can u change that, by giving him chalice for example?

[uncut stone]

wish i could, but i cannot clear the PoT for that

[glossy pagoda]

What about the other artifact that grants defense, does it give enough, I think trying to let tasi dodge silvina in the beginning might enable
Lyca
Lucius
Belinda
Rowan
Tasi

[uncut stone]

ok imma try it out

silvina aims for rowan first then tasi, which cause them both to die immediately

[glossy pagoda]

Ye she targets mage with lowest defense, that's why I brought it up, might be worth to give Belindas boots and robe to tasi for this

Err only boots

[uncut stone]

when vurk finally dies, isa becomes the next problem

[glossy pagoda]

Tasi needs more dodge rowan needs more defense

[uncut stone]

yea i think imma just wait a few more days to beat it

thanks though

[glossy pagoda]

Wasnt one of the earlier stages in ch 19 the exact same comp, maybe u still know what u used there, 19-8 or something

[uncut stone]

nvm switched around some positions and managed to beat it

[raw rune]

ok so who do i use @glossy pagoda

I'm sure I'll lose again but maybe i can clutch it

ugh it's warek who is the problem since he won't sleep for a while

does fawkes get rid of his shield thing?

[glossy pagoda]

Hmm I'd try the following first:
Arden
Saurus
Mehira
Belinda
Tasi
Saurus and mehira ult instantly, hopefully saurus shield stops warek throw
And he punches through the shield, than u use tasi when mehiras ults end and burst Belinda as soon as saurus has max stacks

[raw rune]

he can't be rooted but yeah ill try that, and artis?

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe fawkes instead of arden to dispel shield right after mehira ult is actually better.
Mehira call Belinda blade I'd say rest seems less important

When the shield is down, warek can be stunned by saurus

For a few seconds atleast

[weak plinth]

Any help pls ? I try many comp , maybe i have To ascended my lucius? he get destroyed

[glossy pagoda]

Rather use lyca than him, speed is more likely to help

[raw rune]

hm... i dont have full energy on saurus so i cant ult

mehira ult first then?

...yeah saurus just dies really sad

[glossy pagoda]

Than try
Belinda
Brutus
Mehira
Saurus
Tasi

And wait with Belinda ult until saurus has maxed stacks hopefully that is enough to get the bear

Maybe saveas will dent him a bit too for u

[weak plinth]

dont work with lyca

[glossy pagoda]

Also use silvina instead of Talene deju, this will atleast stun one of the pesky mages

[raw rune]

if i can with belinda dead, do you think it's worth it?

because warek is dead now, tasi saurus and mehira are left, vurk numisu and saveas on the other side, currently under mehira's ult

[glossy pagoda]

Uh, the 4 skregs are still ahead aren't they?

[raw rune]

uh probably since i haven't seen them

but can't tasi + mehira deal with those?

[glossy pagoda]

Skreg is cc imun if he ever gets to ult, I think I would try, weither Belinda can manage to hold on in the best case

[raw rune]

ok ill retry

ok i think she will just die everytime to saveas i forgot about tasi ult so lemme keep retrying

omg thank you sooo much

[glossy pagoda]

Nice warek

[raw rune]

lmfao

what about here? i just got the spider silk cocoon thing

[weak plinth]

@glossy pagoda Thanks to you it worked 🙂

[glossy pagoda]

Cc chain should work, right?

[raw rune]

i guess

who should be replacing brutus there

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe arden to make even more cc, and charge Belinda back

@weak plinth your welcome

[raw rune]

yeah it worked very easily with arden

in conjunction with that op spider silk artifact lol so glad i got that

[glossy pagoda]

Gl, if I remember correctly befor the skregs is an easy fight, so u can savely charge ur ults

[raw rune]

does this look doable yet?

[stable peak]

Made a new account, stage 6-17. Dont need help with that stage but I just wonder what to do? I can buy a hero from lab but not sure which one. I want to use mirael but don't have the copies

[raw rune]

wu kong is fine at that point, just try aiming for faction bonus

[glossy pagoda]

With the spider silk it might be doable, do u have to try anyways, or can u return later? (I think 4 million enemies are the two endboss es, not sure tho, was long ago)

[raw rune]

i can return later yeah was just wondering, because I'm failing to get to the other bit rn lol

[stable peak]

Any ideas what I should do with lab coins? Maybe thoran cause I do t have a good tank

[leaden turtle]

Get Arthur, than wukong

[glossy pagoda]

Do u use the guide (without it would be such a pain, since different pathes differ wastly in difficulty)

[leaden turtle]

Than emblems

[stable peak]

Isn't Arthur going to take forever?, seeing as I only get 15 pieces out of 60

[leaden turtle]

You only need one copy

[glossy pagoda]

A normal hero needs 8 copies, so would also take long

[stable peak]

What is Arthur good for?, haven't played in ages

[glossy pagoda]

Best Tank for gwyn comps

[raw rune]

i'm using the soviet gaming's guide, should i try another

[stable peak]

So if I don't have a gwyn he's not good?

[leaden turtle]

And very decent otherwise

He's juste a most for Gwyn comps

[stable peak]

Alright

Any heroes I should add to my lineup? From that picture I sent of my heroes

[leaden turtle]

At this point Rowan, saveas until 160

[glossy pagoda]

If the guide tells u which path has enemies at which powers and explains that u need to go on every green teleport to reach last boss, its alright I think @raw rune

[raw rune]

he shows what to do, but when I tried it it didn't work

[stable peak]

Don't have rowan on this account, meant what I could change from the heroes I have

[glossy pagoda]

We have a guide linked in the discord I used that one back in the days

[raw rune]

the soviet one is in #545929173471068170 , there's also a furry hippo gaming one there

[glossy pagoda]

Pippa Silas and numisu Probaply more useful rn than warek and edtrilda

I didn't use a vid but one that was on a website to read iirc

Probaply just afk Arena. Net

[stable peak]

Did you reply to me?

[glossy pagoda]

Ye sry should have added pings to avoid confusion

[stable peak]

No worries, ok I'll remove those and add the ones you mentioned

Hope i can start using mirael soon, I feel like wukong is already lacking damage

I really need a healer I feel like, he can't solo anymore

[raw rune]

ok cool i finally got there

what now?

if you're saying that someone will die should i change my formation @glossy pagoda

[leaden turtle]

Saveas can self heal at 120!

[glossy pagoda]

@raw rune
Oops haven't seen the ping til now, well since u have spider silk u can try
Tasi
Rosa
Rowan
Saurus
Belinda
Get saurus to max stack use Rosa ult on him then fire Belinda and rowan away use tasi if u need more cc to reach there

Or is Belinda higher power than just use Belinda Rosa rowan Belinda

[pale kettle]

im at stage 6-1 and im not stuck i just dont know who i should be using

[glossy pagoda]

U should have most heroes at 60 and either wulong or lucretia at 80+ imo

Use that carry together with nemora lyca Rosaline and silvina /solise

Or Khasos, if the lifesteel already allies to non maulers might be only after level 140 tho

[raw rune]

should i tasi ult straight away, again he doesn't have his ult...

[glossy pagoda]

Only after the web ends

[raw rune]

he dies to the thing that kills you

oh... belinda is higher power now that's bad

wait i'm using my own saurus instead of merc LOL

[glossy pagoda]

Lol

[raw rune]

hmm... he's still dying, i can't get him to 5 stack quick enough

[glossy pagoda]

So one skreg gets out of Web early and disrupts?

[raw rune]

the one in front of him i think and does the red charge thing

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe fire tasi as soon as he brakes out

Or try the big burst once they brake out, if that doesn't work its time to change to mehira stuff

[raw rune]

so belinda ult?

[glossy pagoda]

Does merc have higher power or Belinda?

[raw rune]

merc i was just using my own saurus before lol he's only e+

[glossy pagoda]

OK has rosa full energy?

[raw rune]

yeah, everyone has full energy

[glossy pagoda]

If yes use her ult a bit befor the skreg breaks out and use saurus ult to shield him

I hopthid gets u to 5 stacks

[raw rune]

ok hm she's not able to ult before it does

try call on her? i dont have mehira on team anyway

[glossy pagoda]

Is she to far away, or busy sweeping the ground around saurus?

[raw rune]

lemme check, although i put call on her and she did ult but then she died instead of saurus

i don't think she gets to sweep

[glossy pagoda]

I think losing Rosa at this point is acceptable, the end bosses can be beaten with cc strategies

[raw rune]

nvm she does, ok sure

tasi is dying as well

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe if u change it to
Rosa
Rowan
Belinds
Saurus
Tasi, that way rowan can also stun em and immune a random attack hopefully

[raw rune]

well that way saurus 100% dies

[mossy cedar]

yall got a new players guide? i play idle heroes but i just downloaded this

[grand perch]

Hello @mossy cedar,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[glossy pagoda]

What if u use tasi a bit earlier?

[raw rune]

then 3 of them die instead lol

should i attempt the gb fight first to get stronger?

[glossy pagoda]

If u can return there, sure

[raw rune]

yeah there's a red teleporter

[glossy pagoda]

OK
Tasi
Rowan
Mehirs
Saurus
Arden just do it slowly and chain ur ccs together

And when last enemy is left save energy

[raw rune]

yeah i'm doing all of these slowly, and ok

[spring robin]

oof need help pls

[glossy pagoda]

Get a mehira merc, ull likely be able to see comps that beat I with mehira daimon rowan tasi and lyca in the replays

[raw rune]

rowan and saurus ended up with a bit less energy

[glossy pagoda]

Probaply good enough, what relics u got offered?

[raw rune]

which one here

defense looks like the best

since things were dying quickly

[glossy pagoda]

Ye but it may only work with wins that u do after u got it, but u have no small battles left right?

[raw rune]

no

[glossy pagoda]

The unmounted heart it is then

[raw rune]

the skreg and then there's the common after it, lemme check in #classic-questions about that cos if it stacks from earlier it is worth it

[glossy pagoda]

Yup do that, else take the heart and hope it strikes early

[raw rune]

hm... just found a reddit afk arena tier list, not good news...
Shield of Fortitude** (If you take it too late it's a D)**

Ragespike (If you take it too late it's a D)

uh... i'm very confused

[glossy pagoda]

Ye it confused me also, not sure if anyone did testings lol

[raw rune]

tbh it might be worth waiting until i know the answer since 40% could be game-changing

looks like i'm going with the unmounted heart @glossy pagoda, maybe i can keep resetting until the stun happens at the right time

[glossy pagoda]

Gl

[tepid shale]

What formation would beat this (I can change hero’s out)

Or are these supposed to be hard to beat I’m confused

[glossy pagoda]

U have any relics yet, if yes any focus?

[tepid shale]

I do have relics 1 strong 2 on mage

Is that not enough if so I didn’t know I’ve never done these before lol

[glossy pagoda]

Well it's not a crazy hard battle, only antandra and Isa are threats
Belinds
Satrana
Rowan
Estrilda
Talene might work

[tepid shale]

Ok I’ll try it

@glossy pagoda like this

[raw rune]

ugh the same thing is happening again... tasi and rosa are dying

[leaden turtle]

Satrana estrilda front
Belinda Rowan talene back

[tepid shale]

Okkkkk

Yikes maybe I’m just not strong enough yet

[leaden turtle]

I don't think so

[tepid shale]

Ye prob need more relics

😌 it’s ok I tried

[leaden turtle]

Tier 3?

[tepid shale]

No it’s 2

[glossy pagoda]

Did u got the call frsgmentd atleast, from the undead fight @raw rune u can either try for luckier rng or hope that endboss is doable without tasi, ur choice

[leaden turtle]

Shouldn't take too long

[raw rune]

nope it wasn't call it was 400 gems

[tepid shale]

Ok good I only need that to rank up

So that’s why I’m trying to defeat one lol 😂

[leaden turtle]

Focus on celerity branch at first

[tepid shale]

Idk what I chose tbh

[glossy pagoda]

Also in future just use slower speed and abandon battle if things go south, will save u stamina

[tepid shale]

I just chose that one most people did

Ohhhh ok owo

[leaden turtle]

I'm talking about the upgrade priority

[tepid shale]

Ohhhh

[raw rune]

sigh...

[glossy pagoda]

How does this screen look for u blank?

[glossy pagoda]

When u click on celerity

[leaden turtle]

No in the AE menu

[tepid shale]

Ohhh

[glossy pagoda]

Well any of the screen works just so we may find out if u have enough heroes there

[raw rune]

is mehira 100% needed for the boss fight?

[leaden turtle]

Like the artifacts you get from tiles
Focus on the celerity since you got 5 Heroes

[tepid shale]

Idk how to get there

I’m sorry I’m still new to this so I’m confused

[glossy pagoda]

Click the green symbol in the tree and it shows ur celerity heroes

[glossy pagoda]

And they only have 4 Cele in current team, Talene is sus

[raw rune]

and also there's another common fight after skreg before the boss fight, so can i try mehira?

[leaden turtle]

My bad

[tepid shale]

This

[leaden turtle]

It's still the better option

Yess upgrade celerity first

[glossy pagoda]

Well ye trie to cc them cool gl keep an eye on the energy, no skreg is allowed to ult

[raw rune]

i can replace rowan with mehira?

[glossy pagoda]

Ye or rosaline

[tepid shale]

Where is celerity I’m confused what that even means

[leaden turtle]

Don't upgrade other branch, so you can carry, and get stronger way faster

Celerity is the green lance

[tepid shale]

Ohhhhh long rang or whatever

The people with bows

[glossy pagoda]

Ye archers and lancers basically

[leaden turtle]

Ranger I guess

Pointy stuff from afar

[glossy pagoda]

And random wolves

[tepid shale]

Haha ty for teaching me a new word I’m slow

[leaden turtle]

No worries

[tepid shale]

😌 I was like bro I’m too dumb for this

So I upgrade all of those basically first?

[leaden turtle]

Yeah so you can get better relics and settlements faster

Than you upgrade the rest

[tepid shale]

Once I get to baron should I add any of these?

I just realized I got the wrong talene in the crystal

[glossy pagoda]

From left to right the classes are named might , fortitude(fort/tank), celerity(Cele), sorcery (sorc/mage), sustenance(sus). Hope this will help u with conservationd in this server

[tepid shale]

Ty it will

But should I add anyone once I get to baron

[raw rune]

ugh... i seriously don't know how to beat this without 3 people dying at least

saurus dies most of the time i have to keep retrying until he barely lives

[glossy pagoda]

Just a little crazy thought, u could try to thoran those skregs, by sacrificing 4 less important heroes

[raw rune]

lmao game froze when i tried to use thoran it doesn't like him

would arden be one of those?

[glossy pagoda]

Probaply

[raw rune]

where would thoran go

[glossy pagoda]

I mean at least someone need to stall a bit so thoran gets energy

If u have a lorsan throw him in too

[raw rune]

well there's lyca to speed everything up, skriath for a small bit of damage ig, what position?

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe arden behind thoran, and if he deals like half damage to them, it's Probaply good enough for ur main team, do u think so too?

Talene could be in skriath place if u get close to thoran ult but not quite

[raw rune]

ok ill try that formation first

well

i couldn't reset in time and he didn't ult so rip

1 at half health another at 3/4 the rest just took a small bit

[glossy pagoda]

Well hope it atleast helps

U happen to have an izold available as merc?

[raw rune]

uh... nope just m+ the only a is already rented out

[glossy pagoda]

Well it would need one at 30 3/3

[raw rune]

that one is only +20 anyway

should i request in #mercenary?

[glossy pagoda]

U think its still to hard to burst them with Belinda now?

[raw rune]

the lowest one gets banished

if the lowest one wasn't banished then a slight maybe

but it is so 🤷‍♂️

[glossy pagoda]

Daimon could work I think

[raw rune]

this looks fine?

[glossy pagoda]

Ye

[raw rune]

so what would the positioning be

[glossy pagoda]

U got him?

[raw rune]

ye

[glossy pagoda]

U don't have onather e brutus u could place in crystal do ya?

[raw rune]

no unfortunately, this one was from chapter rewards

[glossy pagoda]

I remember I switched from one e+ rowan to another for descent on one account

But u have no spare heroes like that at all I suppose?

[raw rune]

no doesn't look like it

[glossy pagoda]

OK Talene and rosa FL tasi mehira daimon back and try the cc dance

Rosa and Talene may die

[raw rune]

well talene can't be killed

[glossy pagoda]

Yep only if whole team loses

[raw rune]

ok im getting close maybe with a bit of rng only rosa will die

[glossy pagoda]

Gl

Atleast mercs give u a bit more leeway now, I remember people retrying pots to get the perfect relics over and over

[raw rune]

ok the tries since then have been horrible...oh i don't have call on rosa

tasi is always dying

yeah no matter what i do she dies

[languid bloom]

Hi guys I am new to the game. Can you help me for line up? What’s the best combination of 5 based on what I have? A lot of them can’t ascend past 100 and I am stuck. Purple powder is so rare in the game

[raw rune]

well i got past it after losing almost everyone i presume it is over now but do you think i can somehow do it with these heroes @glossy pagoda

there's still the boss fight after this

[glossy pagoda]

Well I hope the next time u have motivation to try it, u can do it with building up ults on ur mercs too

[raw rune]

so this isn't possible now right?

[glossy pagoda]

This fight maybe, but the one after unlikely, I mean there is no harm in trying but mehira was ur secret carry for the most harder fights wasn't she?

[raw rune]

i guess yea but also tasi, and they're both dead

i guess there's no harm in resetting

[glossy pagoda]

To bad it didn't work out completely, sry I was new to the merc concept to, so I didn't Strategize enough around it

U can also keep skippable easy fights to replenish energy befor attempting a hard battle, to have more options available

And if u didn't knew about this, if u get offered three bad relics u can sometimes chose non so they won't get offered again

As long as u can walk around the loot

[raw rune]

usually you can't

[gray merlin]

currently early game lvl 120-140 and my current lineup is Lucius, Mireal, Rowan, Nemora, Lyca I want to keep Lucius Mireal and Rowan but for other supports I have Arden, Tasi, and Fawkes can I make a better PVE team than I currently have with any of those?

[gleaming dawn]

Help

[summer cedar]

try wu mezoth bela rowan lyca/arden maybe

[gleaming dawn]

Sadly didn’t do the trick

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/ad61e58a8083d78f0fc7452089becb90 Is this even do-able?

[outer pewter]

brutus rowan
lyca ainz lucius

hope for ainz rng @vapid field

[tranquil walrus]

any help here?

[pale kettle]

Stuck on 9-16 what should I do here?

[outer pewter]

full hero pool plz

[pale kettle]

That's all my lvl 100s

But sure

[outer pewter]

rest orthos flora and lucretia to 1, they are not early game hero

remove antandra and belinda from resonating crystal and level antandra and belinda up as much as posisble (belinda being the highest ~ lvl130 i would assume)

your comp can be

talene brutus
belinda rosa tasi/nemora

@pale kettle check out #545929173471068170 for beginner guide

[pale kettle]

Ty SM

When should I start using luceriata? She's my favorite.

[outer pewter]

she starts to carry after lvl 240 unfortunately

[pale kettle]

Ty!

[outer pewter]

NP, gl on your grinding

[pale kettle]

You're the best

@outer pewter I still lost 9-16 what should I do?

[outer pewter]

your hero pool again

[outer pewter]

brutus talene
tasi rosaline belinda

[sour pond]

How to win that? I only see people with ascended talene who completed this quest where you have to use shemira + lucretia to win it ..

[outer pewter]

should wait for belinda breaking 121 for hyoer carrying

[sour pond]

I tried many comps and cant win this , so pls. Im not lazy

[pale kettle]

Nope nothing still

[pale kettle]

My brutus just instantly dies

[outer pewter]

oh brutus doesnt have the invincible shield

[pale kettle]

I leveled up Belinda though

[outer pewter]

tough, you have to wait for more levels, your only vaible carry atm is belinda

[pale kettle]

Oh

[sour pond]

Some winner comps but cant copy them

Im lacking A talene..

[pale kettle]

Wait moving Belinda to the middle worked

[outer pewter]

ncie

[outer pewter]

lucretia 30 3/9 should carry you, put her at position 5

rowan brutus
daimon lyca tais/ferael

chalice chalice
call eye call

got a trick that i used a long time ago

you can reset shemira to 180, and you can bump up your rowan to 220

that willlbe 240 220 200 200 180

i am not sure if it works for now, was useful long time ago

definitely worth a try @icy plume

rowan tank beginning 240

you have your carry daimon at 240 already

ideally

240 220 180 180 180

240 220 220 180 180 etc

you can try the trick i mentioned above, hope it worked lmao

dw, have hero at 240 and rest at 180 wont break the game

that was my secret i kept to myself lmao

hehe good luck on your grind

dm if you have more questions

[pale kettle]

5 o 6 teams @outer pewter ?

[sour pond]

Ty unfortunately only maximum mythic lucretias with no sig item levels in my fl - but i wrote in mernecary channel now - ty i appreciate your act of help

[outer pewter]

33-60 is five teams @pale kettle

Good luck on you grinding for the winning formation @sour pond

[pale kettle]

ah well. I dont have t1/t2 gear for 3 team- so stuck atm without merc^^

[sour pond]

Ty - do you have by chance an +30 lucretia and wouldnt mind to lend her to me? xd

[pale kettle]

dam I did that with level 1 luc @sour pond

[sour pond]

You would help me more if you give me some hints or your comp

The comps i saw always included A talene which i dont habe

[outer pewter]

ha

[pale kettle]

@sour pond

[outer pewter]

i used a super budget build and i forget what i used

[sour pond]

XD ty very much noticed i will try it out when i got one A ezizh

[stuck trellis]

@sour pond eironn lyca fera maybe fera out for rowan

[outer pewter]

pretty sure I used talene daimon/ talene rosa gwyn

[pale kettle]

show ur hero list maybe we find something^^

[sour pond]

Eironn rowan ferael 30 saurus 29

I tried comps with eiron, rowan, lyca, daimon, gwyn, wukong, safiya

[pale kettle]

so try my comb and just switch eziz away for any else shit. ^^ maybe the test hero or lyca or rosa or lyca or ferael or or or or try it with ur L eziz^^

[outer pewter]

@sour pond

[pale kettle]

Nara Si > Daimon SI? Idk just asking^^

[outer pewter]

both at 20
there are others going 30 first

[pale kettle]

I ask cause ur Nara is 30 and daimon 20^^

[outer pewter]

that's a whale from my guild

[pale kettle]

[sour pond]

Ty it worked after several tries
@pale kettle ty too your comp almost worked too, maybe it would have bring me the win after few more tries but then i saw the new comp. i replaced ezizh with eironn. Ty all this help rly isnt taken for granted

[pale kettle]

yw^^

[outer pewter]

np glad to help out

[hazy iron]

nvm i did it

[tranquil walrus]

any help here?

[summer cedar]

who does fawkes coffin? stop building L btw

[tranquil walrus]

lyca...

[summer cedar]

pity. was hoping he'd coffin arden. try lyca instead of fawkes
rosa is best paired w shem for double ult but she's too low ascsension

[tranquil walrus]

didn't work 😦 ogi kills shem i think...

[twin dove]

I need some help batman keeps killing my team

[summer cedar]

then try talene brutus luci rowan shem

[summer cedar]

try brutus luci shem rowan lyca

[pale kettle]

Rosa/lyca
Shemira
rowan
Brutus/Lucius
Nemora
@tranquil walrus

[tranquil walrus]

ira kills shem ima keep trying though

[tranquil walrus]

i think kaz is the one killing shem here

[twin dove]

Doesn't work

[pale kettle]

Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
@twin dove

[twin dove]

Brutus and luci dies 1 sec into the game

[summer cedar]

im doing my best here. shem doesnt shine until 161 anyway but i dont see a mirael or saveas

??? brutus literally cant die for at least 6 seconds that's the whole point?

[pale kettle]

[twin dove]

I mean he does 0 damage to them

[summer cedar]

that's also the point. he's a tank. other than daimon grez and skreg in the far future, tanks are meant to deal 0 damage essentially

[twin dove]

0 damage

[outer pewter]

you are underlevelled and belinda doesnt do much with a level deficit, come back later

[lusty wren]

Anyone have any suggestions for this stage? I can't seem to have rowan live after the first 2 seconds

[outer pewter]

shemira rowan
rosa lucius tasi/lyca

you might want to merc an ezio and try if he can 1v5

i think i used arden for this stage long time ago

got a trick that i used a long time ago

you can reset tasi to 180, and you can bump up your rowan to 220

that willlbe 240 220 200 200 180

i am not sure if it works for now, was useful long time ago

definitely worth a try

[lusty wren]

I'll give those suggestions a shot, ty!

[outer pewter]

np glad on the grind for rng

[cyan solar]

brutus is usually the last guy alive, and the goat heals so hard

yeah it's hard ash to kill brutus

[solemn basalt]

Well i use fawkes for him

[cyan solar]

passed it with tasi lol

[lusty wren]

yes! finally got it, managed to do it after taking rowan to 220 like your suggestion, thanks again!

[little ferry]

Uhh someone help plsss

@solemn basalt can u help ?

[solemn basalt]

cant im only chapter 15

[little ferry]

This is the morvus challenge @solemn basalt

[solemn basalt]

ooh i finished that

[little ferry]

@outer pewter can u help cus idk

[solemn basalt]

i reccomend use rowan and wu kong

[little ferry]

Where

Say like front or back and slot 1-2 ans 1-3 from up to down @solemn basalt

[solemn basalt]

front

[little ferry]

Both ?

@solemn basalt like doesnt work with them

[solemn basalt]

use rown at back mid

[little ferry]

K

Other heros ?

@solemn basalt

[low ravine]

U can just google morvus bounty thing you get the entire map with formations

[little ferry]

Bababooey1

[pale monolith]

Bababooey

[hollow timber]

Who should I crystal next? I'm thinking thoran, brutus, or numisu

[outer wasp]

I'm new at afk Arena game and I'm good at this game but I didn't understand how you lvl 9 or lvl 5 or 3 idk are can in you clan-gilde when you more guys have or how because I didn't understand it...

[hollow timber]

i dont understand a word you said

[pale kettle]

I would prefer brutus @hollow timber

[hollow timber]

im just looking for heroes that can buy a lot of time for daimon/ainz, so that's what i was thinking with his invincibility lol

[pliant holly]

Need some help thanks 🙏

[pale kettle]

Ainz
Brutus
rowan
Lucius
Rosa/Lyca/fawkes
@pliant holly

[pliant holly]

@pale kettle should I reset my ainz tag and tag him with Shem

[pale kettle]

no why^^

[pliant holly]

Not doing enough damage, he gets ult off but lineup doesn’t work

[pale kettle]

no one of this 3 Lineups works? try this 5-10 times

[summer sage]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/kbytk6/need_help_with_ascensionsi_priority/

Help thread on reddit!

[pliant holly]

Nah they don’t work

[pale kettle]

Nara
Brutus
rowan
Lucius
Ainz
@pliant holly

Any ideas? Would izold be better than daimon here?

swap shemira and narw @pale kettle

Tried that, got very close but still fails, Safiya deals most of the damage

Also if I leave Shemira alone she disables my daimon

Shemira (call artefact)
Daimon
Ferael
Thoran
Nara

[pliant holly]

Yeah nothing is even close I get wiped In like 10 seconds

[pale kettle]

wtf why so idk

[outer pewter]

Nice! Gz on completing chapter 22

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@little ferry

[charred radish]

I’m new to the game and am starting to struggle on each campaign. Any suggestions on a new team? I’m down to reset a bunch of units and take some off the resonating crystal.

[pale kettle]

shemira for 161 +
Arden in crystal

Nara
Lucius/Izold
Mirael
Rowan
Lyca
u could try that
@charred radish

[charred radish]

I shall try that ty

[old ore]

How the hell

[slender scroll]

Any advice on how I can beat this? I can add someone to my crystal if need be

[pale kettle]

swap saf and tidus @slender scroll

[slender scroll]

I still melt, maybe I need to ascend someone?

[pale kettle]

just w8 a bit - and soon Saf to L+

[nocturne scaffold]

I have 0 clue who to run or use. I'm a bit dumb when it comes to setups

I just ran light bearers and celestial to get the 25/25 bonus

[warm swan]

@nocturne scaffold Something like this. This is part of the guide pinned on #classic-questions

[nocturne scaffold]

Huh...

[toxic pagoda]

Halp pls!!

[wary osprey]

So I'm really new to this game, but I LOVE the graveborns style, is a graveborn exclusive lineup valid? Even if it's just in lower levels for now?

[charred radish]

Any thoughts on what are some good lineups I can make for arena of heroes and legends challenger tournament?

[candid summit]

Just started playing today any suggestions

[wide echo]

Suggestions?

[rain zinc]

Would you guys change anything with my current team before I waste time investing in the wrong characters ?

[wary osprey]

Which lightbearer do I evolve and which do I use for food?

[pale kettle]

How do i cheese this? First time trying thoran cheese he dies before ulti

[stone halo]

can someone help me ? i literally tried everything so hard this stage, cant kill athalia before she ults
mercenary avaiable

[pale kettle]

@stone halo use lyca to tank athalia retry untill she survives athalia combo
Eironn to pull shemira fill rest

[stone halo]

god damn ur a genius, cant believe it thanks bud

[supple tiger]

Umm I’m really trying here but I can’t do this to save my life

[sly cobalt]

Help on this misty valley battle? Need mortas and drez

[candid summit]

Everyone just posts characters but are people actually giving advice?

[charred topaz]

i’m not sure what to do here

[stuck trellis]

@pale kettle r1 positioning would be

safiya
rowan
eironn
tasi
ezizh

tbh this lineup sucks because its so rng, but i mean it works lol

[stuck trellis]

id say its definetly doable now because of how strong the graveborn faction is at this moment. your best option would be something like

nara
thoran
silas
daimon
ferael

[pale kettle]

Trying it rn about 10 tries in they survive about 10 secs at best

[stuck trellis]

its eironn comp, its always going to be like that lol

on the bad runs they survive for 5 seconds and die, on the good runs they survive for like a minute striaght and kill everything

i tried really hard to cheese round 1 as well, and what i found was that anatandra would always turn thoran so the cheese woul dfail

[digital dagger]

Not sure how to get this

[stuck trellis]

@digital dagger

fera
lyca
eironn
rowan
tasi

eironn has call here

[pale kettle]

@stuck trellis you are a saint was almost done few more tries

[stuck trellis]

[digital dagger]

Thank you it worked

[stone halo]

ehh stuck again

[valid comet]

Any opinions?

[pale kettle]

@stuck trellis it was beautiful everyone ulted at once eironn double ult all 5 freezed in same spot twice

[stuck trellis]

niiiice
congrats on beating the tutorial

[hollow timber]

Best I can get is 1 kill, brutus and gorvo buy enough time but daimon and ainz can't do enough damage in the end. I'm dust locked for now so ainz is stuck 160. Any ideas?

I've been using talene the whole time as well, same idea, buys time but no damage

[pale kettle]

[white cliff]

How should I be building my team?

[toxic pagoda]

Help pls. 😭🥰

[sinful comet]

Need help with current twisted realm boss lineup( I borrowed ascended talene from friend ).

[pale kettle]

Seirus, lyca and arden are the biggest problems for me in this fight, seirus consistantly stunning, arden with his lighting as well as lyca does a good amount of damage this fight as well, im going to try twins but they may not live long enough

[robust steeple]

Been stuck for a few days please help

[hollow timber]

Best I can get is 1 kill, brutus and gorvo buy enough time but daimon and ainz can't do enough damage in the end. I'm dust locked for now so ainz is stuck 160. Talene does the same thing, just buy time for no damage. Any ideas?

[sacred zinc]

Does anyone have an updated Tier List with Albedo and Ainz Ooal Gown on it?

[cyan solar]

is there any way possible i cant beat this stage LMAO

[spring sleet]

Does anyone have Brutal Citidel 345 solution?

[split peak]

@cyan solar try rowan mid back and move eironn to where talene was and get rid of talene

[cyan solar]

@split peak replace talene w who?

oh wait nvm

his suck gets interupted at the very start

[split peak]

@cyan solar try either side up front see if u can have his pull work

[cyan solar]

it pulls, and i can kill the top 3, but then isabella ults and my team dies

[split peak]

Try to pull isa with nara

[cyan solar]

yeah that's what i did^

[split peak]

Try using tasi instead of brutus

[cyan solar]

insta dead lol

[split peak]

Try lyca somewhere in the back

[gentle magnet]

anyone has a sugestion what i should change on lucretia team on AE ? most of the times it doesnt work too well, either someone dies or just get shredded

[undone trench]

No idea what's happening to my team, no matter the comp they just explode within the first 5s

[cyan solar]

hypo mages do that, do you have anything that'll bring those guys to you? (eironn, nara)

[undone trench]

No o don't have either of those heroes

[prisma needle]

What should i use for arena of trials? Can't seem to beat this and one other stage...

[stone halo]

its either shemira gets oneshoted or ults with 1hp and dies

[raw rune]

https://afk.guide/bountiful-trials-event/

[prisma needle]

Thank you :)

[slender scroll]

Any suggestions for this? I can add a hero to my crystal if need be

[undone trench]

@faint current

Now that I made Mireal L where do I go from here so i can complete thos stage, and move on to chapter 11?

[stark summit]

arena of trias help

[undone trench]

@stark summit google it. People have done full guides for Mortas and Alna.

@stark summit Actually just scroll up.

[stark summit]

i ve just seen a guide up here tysm tho

[dull ruin]

anyone an idea :p

[pale kettle]

can anyone help with this? been stuck for months

[royal thorn]

Would anyone care to help? Daimon gets coffined and the rest of the teams gets wiped in the mean time

[mortal radish]

Any suggestions? Or happen to have a ss for wilder 236?

[summer cedar]

someone beat this at 281, saurus tasi nemora eironn lyca. rng might suck real bad tho. I beat it fairly easily at 310, same lineup, but that's cuz I finally got my saurus +30

[mortal radish]

Thank you!

[faint ibex]

I was wondering if I could have some suggestions for beating this lvl, ty!

@astral jay can I have some help ;-;

[astral jay]

@faint ibex use this
Rosalina
Brutus
Cecilia
Nuru
Arden

[faint ibex]

okii Ill try it

I got insta popped :/

[urban olive]

Can someone help with this stage? Been stuck for a while

[summer cedar]

sav
brutus
rowan
(someone)
arden
might work. I hate writing like this but I couldn't figure out a good secondary tank

[urban olive]

Thanks a lot! I'll try with eziz

[primal jasper]

3 days no luck yet. Got a brutus mercenary thats pretty op atm. My arden and tasi combo gets oneshot by silvina. Any other methods?

[pale kettle]

if u use a merc.. use a good merc not an L+ merc

[mortal radish]

Suggestions for wilder 238?

[ionic mortar]

the first was the wrong one lol

[pale lagoon]

@ionic mortar find which battle ur on, and use the formation here

[white cliff]

What team would be my best bet? Shemira, lucretia, Belinda, brutus, and nermora?

[hollow timber]

Just getting cc'd to death, ferael makes it impossible to ult like 90% of the time, buying time isn't helpful if I can't ever you

[acoustic gyro]

Hello everyone, I've been playing the game for 10 days. Can someone help with this stage. I've been stuck at this level for about 2 days. I cleared all slots on resonating crystal, so I can try team that you might suggest ( I have 8 spot ). Thanks

[hollow timber]

@acoustic gyro try silas, daimon, tasi, shem, izold/lucretia

[twin dove]

I had to beat the stage yesterday was so hard I had to use my friend hero to beat it lol

[royal thorn]

Any suggestions in this stage? Would be much appreciated!

[acoustic gyro]

@hollow timber thanks but I tried every comp of that team, it didnt work. Vedan just kills my frontline in 2 sec after that he kills entire team in 6-7 sec

Vampire batman is too stronk lol

[undone trench]

I think I ended up doing the same thing.

[acoustic gyro]

I just beat that stage using lucius instead of izold, thanks again man

[wise oxide]

Anyone can help with last stage of Labyrinth? Hard mode, used Tear to try to win with no avail yet. Final battle and no tears left to use. Can list other heroes if needed

[lone shale]

Man, 28-58 is hard but I wanna kill this chapter.

Any lineup ideas?

[primal jasper]

Seems like un need tasi to banish ferael maybe? Nemora to charm grezhul.

[pale kettle]

Stuck here for a month

Tried safiya comp/god comp with mehira merc + L ezith/daimon comp/thoran cheese/eironn ferael comp nothing works

[wise oxide]

Hard mode labyrinth, can only use lightbearer, mauler, hypogean and dimensional

[mortal radish]

I used this. Chalice call grace eye eye. Otherwise you could try rowan, tasi, safiya, eironn, nara/athalia

[summer cedar]

im also stuck but some lineups that beat it were
at 293, daimon brutus fera ezio nara (3f except daimon 9f)
at 315, rowan tasi fera lyca eironn (3f except lyca none)
at 319, rowan thoran tasi daimon fera (3f except daimon none)

[dusky sentinel]

So far my "standard setup" that has given me the best results is Izold, Zapharel as frontline, Shemira, Silas, tasi as backline (sometimes swapping tasi and zaphael works better)

I struggle A LOT against burst dps because they kill my comp with higher raw numbers before it can start to function as it should
Also I have trouble against specific assassins that jump straight to my backline.

Any recommendations as to how I can improve these 2 type of matches?

[wise oxide]

Anyone can help with last stage of Labyrinth? Hard mode, used Tear to try to win with no avail yet. Final battle and no tears left to use. Can list other heroes if needed (posting 2nd time because the lab closes in like 3 hours and I would love to get the rewards)

[pale kettle]

show more heros. @wise oxide maybe u need attack with 2 teams

Belinda
arthur
ainz
Ezio
Tasi I would try as first. on 1x speed maybe thats enough @wise oxide

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle My other heroes are: (all ascended) Warek, Brutus, Rowan, Rosaline, Safiya, Khasos, Gwynneth (si10), Numisu, Cecillia, Skreg, . Ezizh Mythic+, Mehira Mythic, Legendary+ Hendrik

[pale lagoon]

@dusky sentinel Rowan helps with his potions, I don't see a reason to not use him. Put him in the middle. Also, at this level, mirael and saveas work best (Shemira can't heal with her ultimate yet)

[pale kettle]

@wise oxide no tasi?

[wise oxide]

Lab mode prohibits use of wilders, graveborn and celestials @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

ahh well I remember

[wise oxide]

Otherwise it would've been easy :)

[pale kettle]

so try brutus on last slot I hope dat team burst enough

[wise oxide]

The problem is, even with everything going off, I only do like 10%-20% to each character at max..

[pale lagoon]

@acoustic gyro
Arden (root vedan)
-shemira/rose
Rowan
-lucius
Belinda (needs to burst vedan)

Or

Shem
-lucius
Rowan
-belinda
Arden

[dusky sentinel]

In some scenarios I have swaped rowan with Tasi, but generally speaking Tasi has worked better (her teleport makes her survive longer). Otherwise, what do you suggest I swap him for? I need a frontline that rn is Izold and zaphrael, Silas has been godly so far, and I imagine I need dmg somewhere, which is the role semira is filling in. Don't have neither mirael not saveas at a high enough tier

[pale lagoon]

U can try swapping Rowan with zaph?

[pale kettle]

so..

Ainz
Belinda
rowan
Rosa (run to belinda double ult)
brutus or fawkes

if that not enough dmg idk

   @wise oxide I know that rosa and belinda get first ccd

[pale lagoon]

Shemira will deal DMG with tasi, use their ultimates at the same time

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle Ok, I cannot finish it with that BUT I do kill Fareal in the process and damage 3 of the remaining 4 characters for about 40%-50% damage. So if I want to do a second run with 5 other characters that would be an option.

BTW I haven't done it yet, all options are on the table.

[pale kettle]

saf
Skreg
Khasos
Warek
Brutus

@wise oxide maybe that could be wave one before other set up test it

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle Doesn't work, Safiya ALWAYS get canceled by Nara during her ult, for some reason

[pale kettle]

Wukong or belinda??

I can max she to yellow tomorrow, my wukong is still epic

nara dont pull brutus?@wise oxide

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle No because brutus cancels her pull with his ult, tried doing it manually without brutus ulting but Safiya gets feared or canceled by Fareal otherwise

[pale kettle]

saf have full stamina for ult or not? so if game starting she should instand ult.@wise oxide

[wise oxide]

She has full ult, from Dura's Tear, but doesn't immediately start ulting. Takes about 5 seconds before she decides to ult (other characters do immedialely ult)

[pale kettle]

What do I do here been stuck for a few days

af. so swap skreg and saf.. hoping she ult after cc instand@wise oxide

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle Works.... But her ult does like 0 damage to anything

[pale kettle]

[wise oxide]

Yeah, that was my face, SI 24 btw :)

[pale kettle]

my saf got sl 20 so dont care

Is there anything I can do besides wait

[wise oxide]

But maybe if I go for the first team with Fareal kill and damaging the other Safiya can finish it? Or do you have any other idea's

[pale kettle]

fawkes
rosa (run to belinda)
rowan
Belinda
Lucius

just for fun testing fraktions bonus.

@wise oxide

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions for early game @candid summit

Can someone answer please :/

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle That does surprisingly well, killed everything but Nara on 20% HP and Fareal on 100% hp

and maybe a character in Fawkes box, but I can't see that

[candid summit]

Still would like a suggestion based on what I have

[pale kettle]

swap belinda and rosa and retry or retry same matchup again so that u can look. if just 2 heros alife u should win with next 5 heros. u still have ainz @wise oxide

What do I do here

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle I'm trying it again with worse results, hehe, I'll try to swap around and to replace Fawkes with Ainz for once or twice

[pale kettle]

@wise oxide
ainz
saf
khasos
skreg
brutus
@wise oxide if that matchup kill one or close to one u can maybe win after that with lb set up

Can anyone see my messages

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle new formation doesn't seemto do anything, still trying with 5 lightbearers but having less success now

@pale kettle The 5 lightbearer team can also kill Fareal with a bit of luck, but can't seem to kill anything more with that, otherwise I might be able to kill two at the bottom if lucky

[pale kettle]

I think we can just try out more if u risk to lose the line up and killing 2 people@wise oxide

[strong comet]

I don’t understand how to make the best team possible

[pale kettle]

hows?@wise oxide

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle 5 seconds after your message I managed to kill two by manually doing some weird shit :) - killed Nara and Shemira with all others on 80%-90% hp LEFT and 50% energy

Although it too me like 40-50 attempts..

[pale lagoon]

@strong comet what do u need help with

[strong comet]

I don’t understand how to make a team using those

[pale kettle]

I dont know yet u beat it or not?^^@wise oxide

[pale lagoon]

I see ..

[strong comet]

Do I just take my top 5 and throw them in a team?

[pale lagoon]

Well, ur units are L which is pretty rough

Don't make Legendary Heros you can't make L+.

Reason: If you get make [Belinda] Legendary, you just used Belinda E+ and 2 E+ fodder. If you only have one E Belinda, then you cannot make her E+. So now you have one Legendary Belinda, and one E Belinda. However, if you can't get any Belinda for the next couple months, but manage to get multiple Rowan, then you really need those two E+ fodder. You will really be regretting it because you could maybe have a M Rowan with SI activated, giving energy potions to your team.

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle No, haven't done it yet, like I tried to say, 3 are alive and two are dead. The three alive have 85% hp LEFT and 50% energy filled

[pale lagoon]

Explanation @strong comet ^

[strong comet]

Dude idk what any of that means lol

[pale kettle]

show how its shows now@wise oxide

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle Give me a second

@pale kettle There you go

[pale lagoon]

Otherwise, I think
Izold
-rowan
Mirael
-talene
Belinda

May work?

Depends on the stage @strong comet

[strong comet]

Ok thanks

[pale kettle]

warek
ezio
Khasos
saf
Skreg
@wise oxide

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle can't kill with that, can get one of the three killed using Ainz instead of Ezio

[pale kettle]

ah didt saw u have still ainz😅@wise oxide

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle I did it! switched Khasos and Skreg with Gwynneth and Ainz and won with Gwynn having 5% hp left :)

[pale kettle]

gz! 1 1/2h left before reset

[wise oxide]

Holy shit mate, you saved me a lot of materials <3 - Not gonna do hard mode for the upcoming labs I suppose hehe

I don't want to spend three hours doing this again ;)

[pale kettle]

@wise oxide ur welcome :) I forgot u could use merces too 🤣🤣

[wise oxide]

@pale kettle Yeah I was aware of that, but I didn't know if I would get a merc in time

[pale kettle]

well, now we got it that's the most important thing

[wise oxide]

Yeah indeed, thanks again, hopefully I never have to do something this drastic again for such amount of resources. (although I would lie that I would never do it)

[pale kettle]

[bright sleet]

Any idea?

[lunar garden]

Help, please :(

[undone trench]

Just need to beat this stage to unlock the next peak.

@lunar garden Can't help but appreciate the profile pic.

[idle marlin]

How can I beat this? I've got a free slot in the crystal

[river rivet]

Been trying this stage for some time, cant find a good team to beat this

Also crystal available low level is fine

[eager igloo]

get mirael to 160 first

[river rivet]

Not enought exp

[eager igloo]

you can reset the spider girl i forgot her name

or just wait a bit haha mirael can still carry for now

[river rivet]

Spider girl is one of the 5

🤔 yeh i should prob just wait it out lmaooo tyty

[eager igloo]

ummm you can replace her with rosaline if you want to it may work if she attaches to mirael and gets off double ults

you can try haha its alot of luck in the end

[undone trench]

@idle marlin Rowan, Lucius, Belinda, Tasi, Flora.

[river rivet]

Hmmm i might try that before i decide to wait it out

[eager igloo]

hogan is another good tank if you need one for now

[undone trench]

@river rivet You definitely don't need to be 160, I'm trapped at 120, and completed this stage.

Rowan, Lucius, Silas mid, Daimon, Flora. Could potentially put Eiron center to pull everyone in

[river rivet]

Oo ok ill try that out, thanks

[pale kettle]

Best artifacts for this team? Was thinking of tidebearer on ezizh, call on tasi/twins, chalice on rowan, and blade on talene

[idle marlin]

@undone trench I tried and everything just dies

[undone trench]

Interesting. The only difference in your team and mine was unused Daimon instead of Belinda.

[idle marlin]

what positions did you put them in?

[pale kettle]

can anyone help stuck on 7-31

[undone trench]

@idle marlin any of these three formations, or swap Flora for better healer or CC

[idle marlin]

thanks, I'll try them

[faint ibex]

Flora isn't a healer tho

[idle marlin]

@undone trench I did it after switching flora for arden

[undone trench]

No, but she does a decent job at it while also dealing damage.

@idle marlin glad it worked out.

[summer cedar]

try luci hogan arden rowan belinda. u shud read the pins in #classic-questions

[wheat scarab]

Need help here. Last level of today's lab

[royal thorn]

Anyone have any ideas for this stage? Would be much appreciated!

[pale kettle]

lorsan
Lyca
rowan
Tasi
belinda
I hope for belindas burst @wheat scarab

[modest arrow]

Am I just too low lvl?

Am I just too low lvl?

[cyan solar]

try

safiya
lucius/rowann
eironn
thorann/daimon
lyca/tasi

[torn bramble]

any comps?

[frank bloom]

I am stuck

Anyone

Help pls

[terse lintel]

@frank bloom full hero page plz

[hollow timber]

Just can't get enough energy and damage out without getting slapped

I can reset daimon to level up ainz, but not sure he'll ever get 2 ults off, and i dont think 1 ult will 1 shot

[desert edge]

@hollow timber typically from what I have heard from other people Ainz dose much better at level 200 or at later levels so you might want to focus on a different heroes until you get there.

[hollow timber]

well literally everyone but belinda is capped at 160

[desert edge]

You might just have to wait idk I’m not as experienced as others.

I’m stuck on this if anyone has suggestions? I’m so close to the end of chapter 20.

@hollow timber also Gorvo is not a reliable tank and you could try using some more support like isabella, Rowan, and Lyca.

[hollow timber]

ya ive tried lyca and rowan but they dont really contribute much

[dusky hazel]

Pls

I've also tried with tasi instead of mehira

[summer cedar]

@dusky hazel this was my clear.

[frosty bay]

I stuck on 12-30 for 2 weeks, anyone knows how to pass it?

[summer cedar]

brutus for lorsan, tasi for flora

[frosty bay]

My poor lineups

[summer cedar]

and stop building L heroes

[frosty bay]

ok i try it now. L heroes means legendary?

[summer cedar]

ye. E+ straight to L+, or don't do it at all
disclaimer: it's ok to do so w fodder heroes.

[upbeat cedar]

Any help?

[frosty bay]

thx, i dont know why tho

[summer cedar]

so E+ to L consumes two E+ fodder. you with me?

[frosty bay]

ye

[summer cedar]

but then L to L+ consumes one E+ SPECIFIC copy of someone. it's completely up to chance whether or not you'll get that E+ copy for a very, very long time.

meanwhile, you're building so many L heroes and nobody can break upwards to L+. you've spread the E+ fodder all over the place, and now your main 5 can't progress any further bc you've split them so far apart. @frosty bay

[desert edge]

Any suggestions I’m so close to finishing the chapter

[upbeat cedar]

I want to optimize my team, I have the feeling I am doing it wrong

[frosty bay]

Thx I understand now.

[desert edge]

@upbeat cedar you should only make hero’s Legendary if you can automatically make them legendary+ otherwise is a waster of feeder heroes. Its ok I made the same mistake when I first started

You could have already had shemira up to mythic plus by now. It’s sucks but you at least know now @upbeat cedar

Also if your looking for some more tips on team building go to questions there are typically really good players there that can give better tips then me.

[royal thorn]

Any suggestions on this stage? Would be much appreciated

[strong comet]

How tf am I supposed to beat this

[cyan solar]

full hero page @strong comet

[cyan solar]

eironn back middle

[pale kettle]

What to do here? I really need to get to 9-20 for the new coins for ainz

@pale kettle you only need to lvl up 5 heroes max. Maybe reset one and pool it into the others. Everyone else go into the resonating crystal

[pale kettle]

So lvl up Belinda and lucerita and reset the green dude?

My problem is it feels all my hero's die in 2 seconds besides Belinda and talene

@pale kettle put Rosaline into the crystal after lvling up your carry (which is Belinda) and have her double ult.

Who should I take off?

@pale kettle Izold. He won't be good til you've completely maxed him out and have strong support. He's not a tank til he can ult at least twice and even then, he's more about dealing damage than tanking.

Should I move rosaline somewhere? She stands infront of Belinda and takes all the hits

@pale kettle it depends on the enemy team. Usually she's squishy bc it's early game so you lack gears and you're at low ascension. Put her in the back for now.

This is so frustrating I've been trying on this all day

I almost won though just one enemy left

@pale kettle keep trying. Get that good rng

So this is what I'm using now what should I change?

@pale kettle I think I used all my RNG up getting the twins today hahahahaha

Damn it it's that stupid bat guy who always survives

YES FINNALY I just needed to max out Belinda and enhance rosas gears and we won

Now time to suffer thru 9-20

@pale kettle good luck. Lol

Actually was considerably easy

This arena leagues pretty hard lol I don't have many good heros

@pale kettle don't worry about Legends', it's the realm of whales. Just focus on doing well in pve and you'll outlive about half of them. (Not trying to say that they'll die soon or anything )

[cyan solar]

ridiculously hard :(, entire backrow are pests

[pale kettle]

Whales are pretty cringe I just want the stuff for ainz lmao

[dusky hazel]

Any stats?

[summer cedar]

@dusky hazel screenshot library finally seeing some use

[dusky hazel]

thank you

[summer cedar]

👍

[dusky hazel]

last team worked out after a few retries so thinking this one should as well

hoping I don't have to pump my heros by a few levels

[summer cedar]

this was just when I got my daimon A and pushed a lot of lvls. and these teams don't even have full gear except tasi and rowan (and saf when I use her) smh me. so it should be quite doable before 315

[dusky hazel]

yeah but levels are always huge helps

tbh I might actually have to level. something is one shotting my daimon lol

that's with full T2 gear

[summer cedar]

im 3/4 on daimon. ezizh stages do take a lot of rng ngl. I think i struggled on that one

[pale kettle]

Currently in PVE my twins can barely stay alive what should I do??

[dusky hazel]

they are squishy

@summer cedar it took so much lol

[summer cedar]

gratz! the struggles of dodge comps lol

[stuck trellis]

@pale kettle do u have any advice for my pvp teams? just saw the pvp goddess in your name lol

[wispy eagle]

Who should i take out for ainz?

[stuck trellis]

@wispy eagle belinda, and swap talene and lucius's positions there

[pale kettle]

Could someone help me build a team or send me info on the best characters in the game

Im new

[empty knoll]

Which one should I ascend to legendary: Estrilda or Raine?

I got 2 elite+ Estrilda and 1 Raine

[pale kettle]

@stuck trellis In pvp, you essentially build three types: stall, burst and a battery comp. Nako is usually frontline to interrupt someone right off the bat, so enemy units like Thoran or Estrilda are less likely to use their first skill (Knock back and Curse). I think you should replace Tasi with Lorsan if you have one. Whenever I see Eironn, that's instantly a burst comp in my eyes and Lorsan fits that to a T. Doing this can free up Tasi for either team 2 or 3. Even Elite is okay bc you really want his life link more than anything. Stick him behind Nako, Safiya back center and Lyca behind Eironn. You have a decent number of units that can make a good burst team (Gwyn and Skriath included)
Tasi will probably fit better in Team 3. Mehira is best when she has +30 SI, so perhaps swap her out for Tasi until she's ready to be put back in. Or maybe you'll never use her as Tasi is good enough.
And as for team 2, it's not too bad. Maybe consider Wu Kong for your team 2 later down the line, which I'm assuming is your stall comp.

@stuck trellis idk if you're gazing for Talene, but she can fit with your God comp or your stall comp. Very versatile.

[stuck trellis]

@pale kettle oh wow thanks for the indepth answer
so how effective would a skriath burst team be on defense? because i think thats the most effective comp burst I can make, but it also seems like the one that is easiest to counter

[pale kettle]

@stuck trellis So long as the enemy doesn't have Zolrath, I think you'll be fine. Haha

[stuck trellis]

and would tasi go on frontline instead of saurus for faster ult? or exact same positioning but with tasi in middle back

@pale kettle alright, ill just make skriath burst as team 1 then.

[pale kettle]

Alpacalypse taught me the three teams actually. He said to treat it like rock-paper-scissors. @stuck trellis

[stuck trellis]

huh. yeah thats a good way to think about it actually

[pale kettle]

@stuck trellis I'd probably put Tasi frontline. Blinking will allow your team to gain haste and Twins will link Tasi and Saurus together to survive better.

[stuck trellis]

noted for god comp

so in this case, would safiya be more effective than gwyn? and how about tidus/gorvo instead of nako?

[fathom siren]

Anything I can do here? My team just gets stun locked or obliterated instantly or I time out and Brutus tanks over 1 million dmg.

[rigid birch]

Swap the formation to the other side

[fathom siren]

Uh ok... I put Tasi and Rowan in front and cleared it on the first try.

[pale kettle]

@stuck trellis yeah, I'd go for Eironn, Lyca, Saf, chicken and Tidus (in no particular order as I'm sure you know the right positioning lol). If you have Lorsan, you can switch it up and use Eironn, Nako, Lyca, Lorsan and fifth member could be anything really, so long as it fits with a burst team. I believe the current meta for burst is Eironn, Lorsan, Lyca, Zolrath and Zaphrael.

[stuck trellis]

@pale kettle alright, thanks for all the help

[tribal lynx]

Hey, so im pretty new to the game (i guess in the grand scheme of things) and I'm pretty stuck here, and was wondering what advice i could get concerning my hero lineup and who i should focus on?

[rigid birch]

1. Rowan always in the middle
2. If the enemy has Arden, use Nara.
3. Shemira frontline but put her away from kaz/lyca/ira

[rugged bane]

Lucius and Nemora make it near impossible to win when they ult cause of massive shields. Tasi banishes Lyca so I assume that Fawkes would coffin her too. Advice?

[pale kettle]

@rugged bane Try Lorsan instead of Tasi and Talene instead of Brutus.

[rugged bane]

Same positions?

[pale kettle]

@rugged bane yep. And if that doesn't work, Rowan instead of Brutus.

It's possible that you might be below power req. Lol But we gotta try something new! 😂

[dusky hazel]

@stuck trellis are you f2p?

[stuck trellis]

nah, ive spent around 100$

[dusky hazel]

Oh cool. I always wanted to see what a light spender was like at this point of the game vs a dolphin

I only ever see whales or f2p so

[forest cliff]

How can I kill the 2 front lines first

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff Eironn back center worked for me.

[stark summit]

best formation i can make to synergize and pass that stage?

[rugged bane]

I wasn't below power req, and I ended up beating it with the Talene setup \o/

[pale kettle]

@rugged bane ayyy

[rugged bane]

I also beat another Lucius/Nemora combo on my own after realizing that Fawkes could just dispel their shields lol

[forest cliff]

@pale kettle that doesnt work athalia dies too fast

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff who does Tasi banish? If she can get Athalia,maybe put Saurus and Saf as backup damage dealer against Arthur and Grez. Either way, I used at least a Saurus as backup damage against that monster of a tank Arthur. Took a lot of tries too.

@stark summit try Lucius, Shem, Lucretia, Rowan and Fawkes

[forest cliff]

she banishes shem, and i am using saurus on arthur, ill try using saf too

[stark summit]

tried 4 times, no succes

[pale monolith]

Rowan,Lucius,Shemira,Gwyneth,Safyia,Lucretia,Tasi

[shadow trellis]

Need help please been stuck for 4 days now

[rigid birch]

take out belinda and put in arden

[shadow trellis]

In that same layout

[hushed timber]

@shadow trellis did you beat your level?

[shadow trellis]

No sadly😔

[hushed timber]

@shadow trellis keep your layout, swap izold for brutus, swap belinda for arden

[shadow trellis]

Like this @hushed timber

[hushed timber]

Yes, run it like 5 times, if it doesnt work, swap arden for lyca @shadow trellis

[shadow trellis]

Ok

[hushed timber]

I mean swap arden for lyca oops @shadow trellis

[shadow trellis]

Ok lol I already ran it 5 times they died so fast oof

[hushed timber]

@shadow trellis what order does your team die in, who dies first

[shadow trellis]

On which try

[hushed timber]

Majority

[shadow trellis]

With Lyca or without ?

[hushed timber]

With lyca instead of arden

Is saveas doing the most damage to you? @shadow trellis

[shadow trellis]

Lucius Brutus lyca mirael tasi and yes he kills my Lucius fast

[hushed timber]

Swap lucius brutus

Then let me know if that does better

Also, before you level anymore of your heroes, take mirael straight to 160

[rugged bane]

It's hard to control Shemira when Silvina omae wa mou shinderu's my Tasi or Fawkes

Nevermind I got it lol

[rugged bane]

Although this level is giving me trouble now

Everything's fine until Arden ults, then it's a wipe

[crude elk]

Halp

[dapper oyster]

Whats the best lineup i can run with?

[sacred zinc]

What formation should I use for this stage?

[low ravine]

Rosaline
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Lyca
@dapper oyster prob the best Eironn comp you can build

Rosaline
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius
Silas
@sacred zinc try something like that

[sacred zinc]

I hate Saveas so much...he is 2 shotting my Shemira...

[low ravine]

If it doesnt work, try switching the frontline heroes with each other or the backline heroes
And if you get close, retry it about 10 times until you get better rng

So in this case you wanna put your tanky boi Lucius in front of the Saveas @sacred zinc

[sacred zinc]

Yeah, I tried that too. He gets stunned by Ogi then gets destroyed cause he can't heal himself...im just gonna have to wait until I can level my guys some more because apparently a level 140 Tank is just too weak.

[low ravine]

Nah you should be able to beat that stage pretty easily, if Lucius doesnt heal in time, try putting in a different healer. Can I see your roster?

[low ravine]

Okay well first of all stop ascending heroes to L, second of all, put Lyca on the crystal and try putting her on the team, switch heroes around and retry a lot of times, you should be able to do it

[sacred zinc]

Who should I take off the Crystal in place of her?

[cyan solar]

you have wayyy too many legendary heroes

[low ravine]

Prob Grezhul or Hendrik maybe

[sacred zinc]

Okay, can you help me with Artifacts real fast? I dont k ow if I have the 4 I have on the correct Heroes.

[low ravine]

@sacred zinc
Eye on Shemira
Grace on Lucius/Rosaline
Call on Rosaline/Lucius

[sacred zinc]

I hate this stage...

[muted stream]

Any ideas? Daimon didnt work out and luc just got perma targeted by sav

[sacred zinc]

Omg...it took so many retrys but I finally got it.

[pale kettle]

Who should i use?

[warm snow]

Push as far as you can with tasi, Belinda, ezi imo. Then focus on your most ascended ones and lvl then. Daimon, eironn, tasi are top tier both early and later

[pale kettle]

who is imo?

[warm snow]

Just stands for in my opinion. 👍 Basically level your highest ascended ones, as elites have a low lvl cap. You can reset lvls later if needed

[pale kettle]

so i level up daimon and who to use fifth>

flora and skreg are bad? should i reset them?

@warm snow ?

[warm snow]

Both are pretty alright early and good later. But you will be level capped

[pale kettle]

so who to use fifth?

[toxic pagoda]

Athalia is the BANE of my existence. 😭😭

[warm snow]

@pale kettle try experimenting, early levels fly by and you will reach caps pretty often

[pale kettle]

ok thx for help

[warm snow]

No worries 🙂

Ugh

[mild shale]

What should i use?

[pale kettle]

make legendary belinda

and lvl up tasi

[mild shale]

should i really make belinda l?

[pale kettle]

i think so

[warm snow]

Oh it worked! 22-26 is pounding me, any clues or tips? 🙂

[teal wagon]

wish i could help, I'm hardstuck at 21-43

[warm snow]

I feel you, that one was horrid

[teal wagon]

uhhh, have you tried twins & rosaline on back with ainz