lineup-help

[rose canyon]

i also had problem and lucius + flora and my graveborns made it

[primal jasper]

I get killed within 5 seconds full blast

[final star]

Oh nice same situation here

[rose canyon]

on x4 or x2 speed xDDD

[primal jasper]

2x

[rose canyon]

i was yoking

[primal jasper]

Full dead at 1:16

[rose canyon]

wait till tomorrow and lvl up shemira

[summer cedar]

try swapping brutus and shem. otherwise rng I guess

[primal jasper]

I get maybe 1-2 levels a day here bro

[random bay]

Can I get some help on this one?

[primal jasper]

I have swapped em severap times xd

[summer cedar]

id drop daimon for a support. arden lyca tasi or whatever

[rose canyon]

daimon for rosaline imo

[random bay]

Problem is my shemira doesn't do enough damage on her own to kill a Vedan and a Shemira, also those wilder supports get deleted here, I've tried that

[rose canyon]

maybe tasi to get some time?

[wheat panther]

I'd actually drop thoran

For rosaline

[random bay]

Thoran is the one who buys me some time so I don't get deleted there's no way I'm dropping him

[wheat panther]

I'm not disputing that. But you want a team that will win. If you have rosaline behind shemira then you take silvina off of rowan. Vital for any hope of winning. If you dont wanna remove thoran then swap him with daimon, put shemira top left and rosaline back left

Silvina will focus shemira building her ult

[forest cliff]

How can I beat this

[rose canyon]

What about that?

[summer cedar]

kid you not, I dropped vurk for skriath so silvina wouldnt slaughter my saf. if she ults it's basically a win but takes some rng

[forest cliff]

yea that doesnt work, i tried that so many times

[summer cedar]

flora and daimon lack synergy in this comp. do u have rowan?

[rose canyon]

Nope unluky

[summer cedar]

try brutus at 1 and saf at 3. otherwise I'd have to check the pass logs

[summer cedar]

try brutus luci shem tasi arden perhaps. also wish u had a rosa but it is what it is. I'd also reset saurus and put tasi in the pentagram so u can get baseline 160.

[covert hearth]

Any suggestion on the next step? I was waiting to get Rowan to Mythic but I'm stuck...should I just ascend Belinda?

stuck here btw

[summer cedar]

try luci brutus rowan nemora saveas. will need rng for nemora to charm fera.

[rose canyon]

need one saurus to legenedary + will wait till that time

he is rly nice on boss fights

[summer cedar]

just merc one

[covert hearth]

I used my merc already...I always have one saurus for guild run tho

[covert hearth]

Bleinda pop Brutus passive with 2 auto, then proceed to destroy everyone...

[summer cedar]

try luci talene saveas rowan brutus.

[unkempt field]

22-60 Tried swapping talene and brutus with each other. Can't figure it out.

[covert hearth]

I get demolished, can't even start to damage them...I guess I'll wait untill I can Mythic someone

[summer cedar]

does nara actually stop arden root or does he root anyway?

[unkempt field]

She stops root. It's athalia and thane obliterating everyone. Tried to put tasi but she doesn't ult with call before enemy lucius.

[summer cedar]

try shem luci lyca rowan nara perhaps. lmk if luci never ults no matter rng

[unkempt field]

Tried but my rowan is E+.

[summer cedar]

rowan is meant to die. the potions stall is what I care about, hoping Shem w health pot lyca haste and call can proc quickly w out dying

[brave oriole]

Use arden

[summer cedar]

🤷 couldnt tell if Rook had one tbh

[brave oriole]

Well, that's his problem then, ppls should have arden

[unkempt field]

My Lyca ate my Arden fodder

[wheat panther]

I dont have arden. Another option is using eironn in nara position. A pull and ice sword may give you some time from arden

Though against a lineup like that my real fear is raine

[brave oriole]

@unkempt field I don't know then, @unkempt field but Lucius with dura's call surely.
Try
Rosa
Lucius
Brutus
Shem
Rowan

But arden root its bad, so maybe try nara or athalia vs arden if doesn't work that well

Or if you want to use eironn, you would need a Backline with safiya

@covert hearth do not ascend Belinda, be patient, bcs then it's hard to ascend your Lucius rowan for support. You better get more shemira copies and push to m, m+. It's easier to use diff factions in your team, less fodders from each faction

[unkempt field]

After initial dive athalia just kicks shemira wherever I put her.

[pale lagoon]

Any ideas?

[grizzled juniper]

Any ideas?

[brave oriole]

@grizzled juniper maybe add daimon

@pale lagoon replace talene with Brutus and
Lucius dura's call
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Rosa lyca etc

[gray geyser]

@tough prawn

[weak island]

Ideas? No I don't have Rowan and no my Lucius isn't good front line, idk why

[rain nova]

Anyone that can help that will b nice I'm at 13-33

[unkempt field]

Pog I did it 22-60

[nova karma]

Any suggestions

[pale lagoon]

Give Belinda eye, Rowan on call, Rosaline on grace.@rain nova. Rosaline in front of Belinda, Lucius behind talene. Ur ckmp is strong u just need it move your heroes around as needed

@nova karma faereal isn't the play rn, he's not too good until much later. Thoran has to be used in specific team comps to do well and izold has to be played around. I would do:

Arden

Talene
Daimon
Rosaline
Fawkes

Maybe switch daimon and Rosa, not for sure

@brave oriole no luck

Tried with Fawkes, nemora, Rosa, talene...

[rain nova]

@pale lagoon

[pale lagoon]

Try using Nora to hook mirael

[rain nova]

Any specific artifact on her all my Best Equipment is on the current 5 u c

[pale lagoon]

You can try drape or call I guess?

[rain nova]

Who am I replacing

Sorry I'm still new to game learning as I go

[minor peak]

Any help

[lusty osprey]

For a stable line up, who should I use?

[grim bolt]

Any advice on this one? I do have a free crystal spot coming up in an hour or so, so I can show the rest of the heroes I have (not many lol) if that would help as well

[cerulean hamlet]

@grim bolt Who does Silvina jump on? If it's Tasi and she doesn't live to ult you may want to move gear so that she jumps Rowan instead. Otherwise, an option would be to go Tasi-Lyca-Arden backline instead for CC but again would rely on whoever gets jumps surviving

[grim bolt]

She goes after rowan, Tasi still doesn't always get her ult off though because rowan goes down pretty fast

I was originally planning on putting arden in my crystal, so I'll stick with doing that

[cerulean hamlet]

A "general" comp with your heroes would probably look something like Mirael/Saveas - Hogan - Rowan - Arden - Someone until you pull more heroes that you can fill in. Reading the pins in #classic-questions would probably help too if you didn't already

[cerulean hamlet]

You could probably move Rosaline to the top and swap with Tasi at least, as that'll cause Rosa to start giving benefits to Shemira earlier which may help

[lusty osprey]

Thanks

[cerulean hamlet]

If you're looking for a general comp with that box, probably Lyca (+Arden, build him) + Tasi + Nemora as support core + Brutus/Lucius + Ainz/Shemira (post 161) as carry would work best, potentially though you'd want a carry that can double as frontline until you get better dodge gear so building Saveas may still be useful

[grim bolt]

Yeah true, forgot to swap them from a previous comp I had. Would you recommend dropping Rosa for Lyca maybe?

[cerulean hamlet]

Probably not without Arden, or if anything drop Rowan for her. The faction bonus while not necessary is decently helpful so you may want to do that over Tasi-Lyca-Rowan/Rosa

[grim bolt]

True on the faction bonus. I'll stick with Rowan. Would wukong work for CC at all + faction bonus, or nah? I will put Arden into the crystal when I have the spot open to try those three

[cerulean hamlet]

Wukong might work as alternate damage source but his CC is practically non-existent, potentially if he can clone him over Lucius with 3 wilders backline may perform better though I suppose

[summer cedar]

anyone have 30-30?

[grim bolt]

I'll give that a shot once I have arden, thanks for the help mate. In the meantime just gonna keep hitting try again and hope for some godly RNG lol

[cerulean hamlet]

Nara

• Rowan
  Eironn
• Tasi
  Lyca

Or if you use Daimon, Ferael/Nara in top slot and Daimon over Eironn

[summer cedar]

ty 🙂

[pale kettle]

@summer cedar but i think u dont need anymore

[granite kraken]

Been stuck here for a while, any suggestions?

[summer cedar]

yeah I beat it a few mins ago and got the new artifact. ty tho 🙂

[grim bolt]

How would you recommend I set them up?

Like is that a good order for the backline, or need to move them around?

[cerulean hamlet]

Lyca should generally be in the middle unless someone else would want that lot more, Arden positioning should be based on the enemy half with the most threatening enemies, Lucius uh, is probably a bit weak if you can't ascend him in which case another tank would be better but yeah something like that

[cerulean hamlet]

Though I suppose a most general setup would be:
Arden (behind Shemira

• Shemira
  Lyca
• Tank
  Tasi
  Move frontline to match enemies

[grim bolt]

Thank you, and yeah I can't ascend Lucius yet sadly

[lunar garden]

HELP :((

[obsidian island]

Any suggestions on how to beat this? Final stage of the new trials of gods 😦

[cerulean hamlet]

@obsidian island
A higher burst option would help more than trying to stall as time does favor Orthros, there's some variations on what you can do but the easiest is probably Eironn over Ezizh and placing him in the middle. Not sure what other heroes you have but higher burst will help over Ezizh here

[cerulean hamlet]

Ferael

• Eironn
  Lyca
• Rowan
  Tasi

Should work better with current comp, alt Safiya over Ferael if you plan to have Eironn in back-middle

[obsidian island]

Ok I’ll try

[cerulean hamlet]

There's some other options you could try for that stage like Athalia + Ferael but it depends on heroes I can't see. Though I see Ezio is linked to Ferael?

[lunar garden]

Ty, now I can 😄 ❤️

[velvet mason]

I could use some help with this stage, Fawkes coffins vurk

[obsidian island]

@cerulean hamlet this is my roster. Eironn comp is getting smashed 😦

[cerulean hamlet]

You could try optimize your comp - Shemira and Lucretia are both carries but neither are good at low levels or ascension, you should instead look to replace them with supports to support your current carry (Saveas) - something like Tasi - Lyca - Arden + Brutus and Saveas would be better if you could focus Saveas for ascensions to L+ or so

[cerulean hamlet]

There's a couple option I see that should work:
Daimon

• Rowan
  Ferael
• Saurus/Tasi/Nako
  Twins
  Or some variation of that.

Arthur + Twins + Gwyneth + Ferael + Athalia against Safiya might work too if possible.

[cerulean hamlet]

How does it do if you replace Fawkes with Tasi?

[velvet mason]

@cerulean hamlet She ult once, but not able to kill everything

[hexed rivet]

This setup slaps, thank you for your time @cerulean hamlet 💯 💯 💯

[velvet mason]

Worked with Tasi and Fawkes instead of Lyca though😀

[lunar garden]

I'm trying to get through chapter 29, I do the Ferael and Safiya variation, but several times I can't get through stages like this. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong or some advice?

[cerulean hamlet]

Positioning is very important for stages like those + RNG is a large aspect too.

Usually you should play around with where your heroes are in a comp, e.g you could try Lyca front with Rowan giving you something like:
Tasi

• Lyca
  Eironn
• Rowan
  Safiya
  Ofc, in this case this requires Tasi to dodge 1-2 spears from Saveas and need you not to get destroyed by the enemy Tasi but would let Safiya clean up bottom side without having to go through Brutus for an example

[random bay]

Can someone give me a tip on this one please?

[lunar garden]

TY<3

[cerulean hamlet]

Generally, at your stage in the game, you'd want overlevel Shemira/your primary carry but:
Arden

• Shemira
  Lyca
• Brutus/Thoran
  Tasi assuming Isabella jumps her and she survives long enough to ult would work or so?

[random bay]

@cerulean hamlet will give it a try. thanks
I need more shemira copies 🙂

[hard forge]

I can’t get past this kt stage. If I put Rosaline in she just gets snipes immediately by the morvus

I don’t feel like it should be that hard though, things aren’t dying too fast

[weak island]

Ideas?

[summer cedar]

try brutus talene rosa shem luci

[hard forge]

It’s not even close, morvus just immediately destroys rosaline and then shemira before they can do anything

[brave oriole]

@hard forge
I would not play without rowan. So try
Lucius dura's call
Lyca???
Rowan chalice
Shem grace
Rosa blade eye or so

If you don't have an elite lyca, then use lucretia instead, for 30%def

[hard forge]

I ended up getting it after another 15 or so tries actually, thanks though. I also dont have rowan unlocked yet unfortunately, have had him wish listed forever too @brave oriole

[brave oriole]

@hard forge use hero of choice for rowan, he's very good

[hard forge]

that was my plan once I unlock it, heard he does big things

[thin wind]

Help pls? I've been stuck here for a while, can't find a way past it

[slender scroll]

Any suggestions to beat this team?

[chrome halo]

Any advice for a chap 17 push lads?

Went through 16 ez but 17 is clappin me

[hollow hatch]

Anyone have a Wilder 253 at around level 300?

[undone trench]

How do I deal with Arden/Nemora on this stage?

[raven musk]

Anyone have any suggestions? Feel like this should be easier.

[pale kettle]

I think if luca can give Eironn fast enough, you can use eironn in 1st position to pull them both @undone trench

[north topaz]

there a reason i cant beat this?

[undone trench]

@pale kettle This reply had to be meant for someone else. I don't have Eironn.

[north topaz]

nvm i beat it lol

[pale kettle]

It was for you. I thought you had Eironn. Sorry

[undone trench]

@pale kettle

Those are my heroes. Also who is Luca?

[pale kettle]

Lyca*

[undone trench]

???

I didn't even have Lyca on the team in the screenshot. Sooo confused.

[pale kettle]

Haha, its cuz i saw her head in the bottom of the screenshot

——

Double Tasi

:pepeSad:

[slender scroll]

Any suggestions on how to beat this?

[pale kettle]

Have you tried mirael front and rowan mid?

[charred radish]

Yep

[slender scroll]

Have you tried nara in the middle to cc Isabella?

[warm swan]

@slender scroll At first glance that's already a good setup imo. Maybe just a matter of switching positions. Swap Lyca in Ainz instead?

[slender scroll]

My lycas gear probably needs more work to be effective in the front line tbh

[warm swan]

Lyca doesn't really need to survive. She's just there for the haste buff so Ainz can ult fast

[slender scroll]

Ya the team just dies too quick for him to pop off

[grim bolt]

Any advice, or do I just gotta wait on more xp to level them a bit more?

[warm swan]

@slender scroll Not even a single ult? Oof. Let's see..

[slender scroll]

He can get one off about 50% of the time

But it's not enough to nuke the enemies down

[warm swan]

@grim bolt Get that Rosa+Shem combo running. Put them in front.

[slender scroll]

@grim bolt have you tried to swap out tasi or the goatman for ainz?

[grim bolt]

Rosa on front just gets melted super fast, I'll try it again though. Haven't tried Ainz in, will give that a shot as well

The Kaz and Ira hit super hard, especially the kaz

I also have Albedo, but she's linked to my shem which I didn't know meant I couldn't use both of them at the same time

[slender scroll]

Her ability asists ainz so maybe you could try to use her and ainz tougher?

[warm swan]

@slender scroll What happens if you sub out Tasi for Numisu?

[grim bolt]

Got somewhat close with this setup so I'll run it through a couple times more and see what happens

[slender scroll]

Ainz can get his ulty off all the time but it's still not enough to wipe the team before he dies

[warm swan]

@slender scroll Best I could find close to your heroes. Didn't have Ainz back then. Sorry

[real sequoia]

What five do yall recomend, currently using roselina, saurus, estrilda, rowan, and cecilia

[thorn coral]

Who should I work on next?

[lone grail]

Helppppp

[slender scroll]

I'll give it a shot later thank you

[silk cosmos]

please help

[warm swan]

@lone grail

[stuck trellis]

@dusky hazel

@silk cosmos

if ur not running daimon, dont try to fera a tasi stage. fera vs tasi hurts

[rugged bane]

I think the problem I'm having here is mainly Mirael, because when she ults it's over. This lineup is also the furthest I've gotten, having killed all but Mirael and Angelo iirc.

Had to send this separately because it's supposedly explicit content...

[stuck trellis]

so daimon stays alive and can tank belinda damage on good runs>?

also who doers tasi banish

[rugged bane]

Yeah, until Angelo touches him, where he then just eats it. Tasi banishes Belinda

[lone grail]

@warm swan should I change any relics?

[rugged bane]

Scratch that, she banishes Mirael

[regal olive]

What is the go to team for ainz? Like I don’t have any more of his groups but yeah

[stuck trellis]

@lone grail call on tasi and eironn, chalice on rowan

[neon nova]

He doesn't really have a "go to team", he just works with a lot off different things. I believe he'll shine best in a team with like an albedo +30 and some other dimensionals

[north topaz]

advice?

if i put eironn in he just gets blown up

[neon nova]

Is he geared?

[north topaz]

yea all wilder t2

[coarse cradle]

Nara or athalia on mehira

[stuck trellis]

this is what I used. if safiya doesnt seem to be doing enough you could try ainz, but i dont think ainz without furn or si will do much

[north topaz]

my nara is L and i dont have athalia

[neon nova]

Have u used a merc?

[north topaz]

yea

[stuck trellis]

just try using the L nara, see how it goes

[rugged bane]

@stuck trellis nevermind I did it lol

[coarse cradle]

Nara at L may be fine

[stuck trellis]

nice

[north topaz]

what else do i run besides her?

[coarse cradle]

gucci just posted an ss

[raven musk]

Any advice? I just die instantly.

[neon nova]

Can ainz replace saf or is her burst necessary?

[stuck trellis]

nara or athalia are ur only options because u need to stop her from summoning bats at the beginning @north topaz

[coarse cradle]

It’s prob more her field that is useful

[neon nova]

well he doesnt have her eother

[coarse cradle]

Yes he does

[warm swan]

@stuck trellis Thank you so much

[stuck trellis]

honestly the field might be whats keeping nara alive
but i have no idea, so probalby worth for him to just try ainz out

@warm swan congrats

[north topaz]

nara comp isnt workin for me, and no i dont have athalia

[stuck trellis]

is nara getting one shot immeidatly after pulling?

[north topaz]

not really

[stuck trellis]

oh then youre fine, just keep retrying

if she is doing her kick/beat down thing to mehira then you can beat that stage

[neon nova]

play for rng

[north topaz]

i mean mehira 1 shots her once she stands up after 2nd pull

[stuck trellis]

@raven musk try this out
arden
belinda
rowan
rosa
lucius

@north topaz so mehira gets kicked down after pulling, and when she stands up she kills everything

i mean if thats the case then u just have to retry more and you will beat the stage. eironn comp is very rng but it has higher pushing potential

[north topaz]

ill keep tryin but not lookin good lol

[regal olive]

Final question but who would work good with a Ainz line-up (keep in mind I’m a level 76 and the highest lvl character I have is a 140)💗👁👄👁💗

[narrow lark]

What heroes you got

[north topaz]

@regal olive idk if ainz is good at that low level, his ult is a nuke but dont know of it works like that at low levels

[raven musk]

Belinda dies before she can get anything off. Surviving longer though lol

[narrow lark]

Hendrik, Lucius, Rowan would all be good with Ainz

[raven musk]

Oh wait it worked that time. Thanks! @stuck trellis

[stuck trellis]

rng is op, just gotta keep retrying

[regal olive]

Thanks 🙏 I’m only play for ainzs because of the anime 

Playing*

[stuck trellis]

@regal olive energy gain supports such as rowan and rosa are good for ainz, as well as stall units like tanks (lucius hendrik brutus hogan), CC supports (arden)

[regal olive]

Thanks 😊

[inland bison]

Anything else I should try here? I’ve been swapping in tasi and moving placements around but to no avail. Even tried swapping relics around. Not sure what to keep trying.

[stuck trellis]

lyca
brutus
rowan
mirael
tasi

@inland bison

[silk cosmos]

Hehe I passed it smooth thank youu

[stuck trellis]

nice

[wooden oyster]

Guys, any help on this?, the Shemira killing me too quick

[rugged bane]

Everything is fine until Ulmus roots, and then it's a sudden wipe.

[silk cosmos]

urg now this, I tried Fera/Safiya and switched Eironn to pull the enemy Safi/Mehira

[inland bison]

THANK YOU. I don’t know why I didn’t think of putting her in the front.

[wooden oyster]

Anyone have suggestion?

[stuck trellis]

@silk cosmos scroll up and you'll see it. you basically need athalia/nara for mehira stages from here on out

@inland bison nice!
yeah since she is th ehighest level she is also the tankiest

[silk cosmos]

oh wow thank you for that info

[pale kettle]

@wooden oyster I think it's better to make Arden above 140 than Silvina bc of triple root cc

[stuck trellis]

@wooden oyster
brutus
rosa
rowan
mirael
arden (141)

or take out rosa put in talene

[distant sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/786077589794062376/image0.png
random question what would be the best team i can make out of this just got back into the game after a year

on stage 13-34

[hard forge]

I do not know what to do, I’m having Rosa cross over to shemira and silvina takes her attention of Rosa, onto Lucius after the initial hit and is full healed by talene

[pale kettle]

@distant sparrow you should put Rowan in the crystal and group him with Rosaline and Belinda. Rowan and Rosa almost always goes together when you have limited options

[rugged bane]

Anyone?

[distant sparrow]

ty

[pale kettle]

Try Talene instead of Tasi and swap Daimon to where Tasi used to be. Hopefully that works

[distant sparrow]

so this @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

@distant sparrow yep

[distant sparrow]

so what should i upgrade next?

[pale kettle]

@hard forge what about using Fawkes and see if he can seal Ferael. Frontline Shemira where Brutus is and put Fawkes top left. So:
Fawkes
Shemira
Lucius
Talene
Rosa

[grim bolt]

Do I have any shot at beating this lol?

[narrow lark]

Cant nuke Vedan fast enough. Any suggestions?

[hard forge]

i just started trying fawkes actually, but i havent tried the frontline shemira, i will give it a go @pale kettle

[dusky hazel]

Worst stage I've dealt with since starting the game lol. Hope everyone has better luck. Two alternative team comps. Hopefully it helps. 30-32

[narrow lark]

Damn Brutus and Tasi would be annoying to deal with

[dusky hazel]

Literally accumulated hours of retries lol

[narrow lark]

Wont get to ch 30 for a while but I'll save those comps for when that day comes 😅

[dusky hazel]

Winning comp took an hour for the right rng and before that another suggested comp took a few hours before I finally gave up

[narrow lark]

Sheesh, must've been tiring, nice job!

[rugged bane]

Doesn't work even when I switch everyone around. Ulmus still tanks too much.

I can't even kill the dreaf

[dusky hazel]

For early ulmus stages I did different stuff like stacking carries to kill him quickly.

Try using shemira, Rowan front line, then Belinda, lyca and safiya

@rugged bane

[robust steeple]

Been stuck for a day or 2 and would be grateful if someone can help

[north topaz]

@stuck trellis we got it

[shadow trellis]

Help needed

[north topaz]

tips on this one?

[forest dirge]

You’re gonna want someone to disrupt Mehira, like Nara or Athalia

[north topaz]

@forest dirge tried that, no luck. my nara only L ascension

[modest arrow]

Potential ae lineups?

[rigid birch]

just slap any 4 celerity with talene for team 1
and another 4 celerity with rowan for team 2

personally im doing
team 1: Eironn, Rowan, Fawkes, Lucretia, Cecilia
team 2: Tidus, Talene, Lyca, Gwyneth, flex

[rigid birch]

is this golus' trials?

[crude wasp]

I think so

[rigid birch]

talene, satrana, khasos, skriath, raine

[crude wasp]

I'm guessing
1 talene
2 stars a
3 khasos
4 skraith
5 rains?

[rigid birch]

ye in that order

[crude wasp]

@rigid birch what about goku's

GOLUS

[rigid birch]

oh lol i forgot it was his trials

[crude wasp]

Who shall be replaced?

[rigid birch]

raine or khasos

[hollow hatch]

anyone got wilder 253 at around level 300?

[rigid birch]

ill see formations when i open the game

[shrewd moon]

My team will look like this:

Belinda tasi rowan

brutus lucius

Any opinions????????

[rigid birch]

Rowan in the middle
or swap belinda with tasi

[low ravine]

Yea Rowan should be back mid in almost every case

[upper sequoia]

Complete novice but have been trying to understand the guides and such and would love input :D

This is my current line up but ascension has me a bit stomped as well as tank/healer/dps etc. I know I read that dps should be 20 plus levels, so should I just fo us on my dps for now? All help is appreciated!

[junior jacinth]

Can anyone comment on my lineup atm or is it too early?

[rigid birch]

replace lucretia with arden

[rigid birch]

take shemira out for arden

[junior jacinth]

Wow really? I would’ve thought Shemira was a great addition based on the beginners guides I’ve read. So I’ll put on Arden on the Resonating Crystal and give it a go?

[rigid birch]

you already have a carry in your team, having 2 non synergistic carries in the same team can hurt you, you take one out for support

[rigid birch]

also reset everyone and get wukong to 80 and then get everyone to 61

[junior jacinth]

Wow okay, great advice. Thanks I’ll get right on it.

So my top 5 is ok but make Saurus the main Carry and get a support... Is Tasi > Arden? So Silas shouldn’t be in the line up at all?

[junior jacinth]

I’ve passed the level thanks to your help. I have resonating crystal slot on cooldown however. So I subbed Belinda in atm instead of Arden

[unkempt field]

Why I can't pull belinda?

[rigid birch]

saurus cant carry that early, he needs signature and furniture. wu kong is a better carry till level 100. silas doesnt work well with wukong because he uses his ulti on 1 clone only. early game supports are tasi, arden, lyca, nemora, etc

@unkempt field belinda interrupts eironn with a normal attack

[junior jacinth]

you’re a master, thanks heaps for that info. I’ll use tasi for now.

[rigid birch]

aw its nothin lol but thx

[unkempt field]

Ok I swapped him mid

I legit have no more clue where to put everyone. Numisu fucking up my comp

Wilder tower. Floor 113 best.

[north topaz]

why is this shit impossible?

[stuck trellis]

@north topaz hmm. maybe swap out safiya for talene again? and use nara instead of athalia

[ivory parrot]

Any tip?

[split peak]

@ivory parrot estrilda and lucius are useless at that lvl

[brave oriole]

@unkempt field charm it

@ivory parrot add rosaline in your setup

[rose canyon]

What about that?

[weak island]

Ideas? Still don't have Rowan sadly, Idk how many pulls I've had now

[unkempt field]

Got it thanks

[brave oriole]

@weak island maybe replace arden with lucretia, since he dies fast there

[covert parcel]

What m i doing wrong ?

(used Eironn Safi comp for first battle)

[brave oriole]

Maybe charm numitsu, and thoran to be pulled

[stuck trellis]

numisu probably screwing things up
and idk if nara is even in range of thoran ult there

lorsan
talene
athalia
thoran
nara
@covert parcel

also if ur running thoran cheese then take out daimon. if ur running daimon thoran then take out lorsan for extra stall

[weak island]

@brave oriole it's better, but they're still left with a Niru and top back row hypogean

[stuck trellis]

I could see something like this working too, but it could change depending on who thoran taunts

daimon
thoran
talene
brutus
nara

[covert parcel]

Ok thanks for the tips i'll try

[brave oriole]

@weak island well, remove Brutus
Daimon
Belinda
Rosa
Lucretia
Lucius dura's call

[thorn canyon]

Is there anything I can do to beat this?

[brave oriole]

@thorn canyon dunno, try fawkes, lucretia or so

[thorn canyon]

It worked once kinda, but then it stopped working lol.

[thin wind]

Any tips?

[brave oriole]

@thorn canyon try Brutus instead of hogan

[thorn canyon]

Okayy.

[brave oriole]

@thin wind maybe replace nara with some low mage

@sour knoll I dunno sure, if it will work, but i would try Brutus rowan, fawk Rosa Belinda, if Rosa follows Belinda

[sour knoll]

Okk ty

[brave oriole]

@sour knoll if not works, just go Wilders
Safiya
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Lyca

[sour knoll]

Yup it worked, ty so much

No wilders didn’t work, that’s why I wanted to ask someone

[brave oriole]

Yeah, you are lacking a good tasi, fix it

[sour knoll]

Yeah I’m trying to build her, but early on I messed up my wilders with kaz-Nemora so I got lyca now I have to get tasi

[topaz oriole]

Need help pls

[cosmic current]

Just increase you hero level. And maybe lucius frontline

And resett you elite hero's and level elite+

[primal jasper]

I've been stuck here for 2 days now

@topaz oriole yo, use tasi instead of eiron. Luci front with mira, do u have rowan?

[brave oriole]

@primal jasper try
Shemira
Rosa
Rowan
Lyca
Lucius dura's call

[primal jasper]

Tried many times, lucuis doesnt get to ult :/

[brave oriole]

With call?

[primal jasper]

Aah hence the call. Ok I'll try

@brave oriole

He cant ult whatsoever xd

[brave oriole]

@primal jasper you don't follow my lineup

Rosa lyca front, shemira rowan Lucius back

[primal jasper]

Mate that'a even worse

[brave oriole]

Swap shem with Rosa

Or, replace lyca with Brutus

[primal jasper]

So now luci ulted but rosa gets shredded in this stage by estri

So I'd rather remove rosa, tbf

[brave oriole]

Yeah, but she dodge sometimes

[primal jasper]

This is a hard stage

[brave oriole]

Do you have any hypogean?

[primal jasper]

Got an E+ zaphrael

[brave oriole]

Nah, hypogean, they gives 30%def

[primal jasper]

He might do the trick here giving rosa enough time for the shemrosira combo since he drops into enemies?

[brave oriole]

What's your artifacts?

[brave oriole]

I mean on the battlefield, tap on the center icon to see em

[primal jasper]

Rowan had call, and luci drape

[brave oriole]

Keep call on Lucius for shield, but, put grace on shem

Now try with rowan back Of shem

[primal jasper]

Ok, and drape on brutus and eye on rowan maybe they'll pop

[brave oriole]

Would be better eye on Rosa for pr

[brave oriole]

Did shem ult?

[primal jasper]

She always ult, but only once at 20%hp, mira just shreds her

Luci never ults neither does rosa

[brave oriole]

OK, swap them, up/down

[brave oriole]

Try with rowan middle first

[primal jasper]

A bit better, shem ulted at 50% hp now, noone else ulted tho, imma try 5 times for rng

[brave oriole]

Try again lyca instead of Brutus

[primal jasper]

Now shes close to ulting twice tbf

[brave oriole]

Does Lucius ult?

[primal jasper]

NEVER xd

Noone ults except shem bro.. :/

[brave oriole]

What's Lucius shoes? He.needs more. Mspd

[brave oriole]

Mhm, not great, try rowan front of Lucius for a sec

[primal jasper]

Rowan dies in a second, tried this before

Pfffft noone ults now xd

[brave oriole]

Then it's bad. He can't tank. Try Rosa front of Lucius

[brave oriole]

Did she died insta?

[primal jasper]

I'm close to foddering luci for rowan M+ OK

Yes rosa died in .1 seconds

[brave oriole]

Oh, no, that's why you can push, you ascended rowan instead of Lucius

So you don't have a Frontline

[primal jasper]

I was jk but didn't know that

[brave oriole]

You have a fawkes , right?

[primal jasper]

No, just mercenary

I can ascend luci soon

2 more E+ fodder

[brave oriole]

Yeah, I can see that. But keep trying first setup, with shem Rosa front up, rowan middle and Brutus Lucius back

It was good a hypogean elite but you don't have any

I can't think of something better than Brutus front of Lucius, and Btw, I would get. Mythic shoes for Lucius

Maybe replace Brutus with a lb, for 4x faction. Buff

[primal jasper]

Where do I get mythic shoes

[brave oriole]

Well, guild shop should be unlocked after chap 12

But if you save for ainz, later then

Mhm, try this celestial instead of Brutus

[primal jasper]

Ainz?

Im running estrilda now instead of brutus

[brave oriole]

And works better?

[primal jasper]

Like 10% shemira is ulting 2x now but not fast enough

And whoever is on 5. Survives longest if shem is on 1 to soak

So I tried rowan on 5, almost ults

[brave oriole]

Maybe try call on rowan

[primal jasper]

Nope

Everything I try seems to be worse, I just had 2x good rng givig me hope but it wasn't near as much as I needed

Without the shemrosira combo I aint doing it

Maybe wait a bit for shem to be 180, and lvl luci

[brave oriole]

Yeah, mythic Lucius would help. Keep lvling Lucius and leave rowan how it is

[primal jasper]

Ok, will do, thanks for trying mate

[shrewd sorrel]

ohhh help need help

[distant nymph]

Can someone help me with this stage

[small acorn]

@distant nymph whats with your 2x bels 2x tasi 2x daimo. Big issues for progression

[distant nymph]

Yeah I didn't realize I had two cards when I did that

[small acorn]

@distant nymph you did it to 4x heros lol

[distant nymph]

I thought they were the only copy I had

Yep I actually did it to 2 more

[small acorn]

@distant nymph key on that stages is stopping fereals 1st haunt

[distant nymph]

But Idk why it seems impossible for me. I usually use Lucius, Thoran, Belinda, Shemira and Daimon. But I saw that I couldn't get through with that level so I tried using eiron

[quick island]

Any good for

Dont know any good formations for this... Any advice

[shrewd sorrel]

help-:

[warm swan]

@quick island

[primal jasper]

@brave oriole I just unlocked the elder tree class upgrades, sorcery for shem dmg or tank for lucius?

[cyan solar]

still stuck on this, either isabella ults and kills my team or shemira and nimu just destroy my units, any help?

[golden bluff]

Hello, can you give me advice to form my team or a future team? I've been playing for a month and still don't understand the heroes much

[shrewd sorrel]

idk what to do pls help mates

[golden bluff]

Also, is there a way to get specific heroes besides summoning? I wanted to promote Daimon but lacking on copies

[pale monolith]

I'd go with Belinda, Tassie, Daimon,Rowan

[wheat panther]

@shrewd sorrel swap the sides. Put eironn and saurus on the left and gwyneth far right behind brutus

[shrewd sorrel]

alright so lyca middle?

[wheat panther]

Yea

[shrewd sorrel]

ight imma try

[primal jasper]

@wheat panther Yo how u doin mate

[wheat panther]

Pretty good XD! Being lazy and not trying any campaign stages

[primal jasper]

This is where I'm stuck on today haha

This full GB comp is sickening

[wheat panther]

Take out brutus, put rosaline in that position and put tasi behind lucius

Your shem is more than strong enough to nuke out this stage

[topaz oriole]

no i dont T_T

[pallid horizon]

pretty sure your team comp is enough to clear it @primal jasper , i've a similar comp with similar level and im at ch 18

[primal jasper]

@wheat panther Thats a big nono xd luci and rosa get 1shot again

[pallid horizon]

most of the time is just rng

[nova chasm]

so close to stargazer
help

[wheat panther]

@primal jasper put shemira in front of rosaline then

His team is much stronger than mine was at that stage. @pallid horizon i only got shemira to 161 at chapter 16. @primal jasper your team is very strong for your stage. Shouldnt be a big challenge

[pallid horizon]

yeah same, i didnt have (and i still dont) rosaline, i use fawkes sometimes

[wheat panther]

@nova chasm if you take out the hypogean support and put lucius in that position you should have a shot

[nova chasm]

i tried that but lucius got deleted

[wheat panther]

@nova chasm i think thats the successful setup. I still run that composition. Maybe consider taking out rosaline and using tasi in her position. Should reduce the damage lucius takes

[primal jasper]

I got em, why is it so challenging then ffs. Now I'm up against this CC team 1shots Luci and doesn't let shemira ult with their cc

Nvm got em too, it is rng all the way it's eerie xd

[nova chasm]

you should be easily able to complete chapter 15

your shem is higher lvl than mine

[wheat panther]

Shemira is literally all you need from now till 20s

And mythic rowan SI makes her that much better

This is my main setup. I usually just swap around positions as needed

[languid skiff]

should i choose wukong or shemira based on my current lineup?

[pale kettle]

Help ?

[cerulean kite]

I'm a little new here, I started playing yesterday but uhh I want to switch out izold since he just dies every battle

I got Belinda and antranda and ulmus to choose from

[hard forge]

Should I be overleveling wukong or daimon here?

[cerulean kite]

Bro lucretia is a madman she can stand up to a team 4x the power solo

[primal jasper]

@nova chasm @wheat panther then idk why I keep hitting walls..

[hard forge]

She’s hard to get copies of, so I can’t commit to her long term

Daimon is much easier and can hard carry

[primal jasper]

A wall again just killing me within seconds, y'all say I'm overleveled but then why isnt any hero able to even ult once.

[hard forge]

Just keep swapping positioning and see what gets close

[queen coyote]

HOW!?!

[hard forge]

Then rng that a few times

[queen coyote]

You guys are so much better than me at this game

[hard forge]

If Lucius can survive frontline then let him do it @primal jasper

[queen coyote]

Ay raidkiller

Who do you have attached to the 181 guy

[primal jasper]

Wdym?

[queen coyote]

Oh I read 181 and not 161

[wheat panther]

@primal jasper ah that lineup. Put lucius behind brutus, rosaline in the mid in back and rowan behind shemira

[primal jasper]

They all die without ulting bro

[wheat panther]

Problem in that stage is vurk nuking out rowan because of his piercing bullets. Rosaline will walk from the slot meaning he will only be hitting brutus

[warm swan]

What gears and relics you have on them?

[primal jasper]

They die in second, shemira doesnt last at all..

I tried call on Shem, but by the time she ult vurk has his ult and deletes her

Spider bitch keeps cocooning also

[warm swan]

The only way I can think of adding another haste buff for your team is Lyca. But that line-up is gonna be squisher.

[primal jasper]

They do too much dmg. If I survive the saveas, it's vurk+brutus combo that oneshots

Just gonna wait a bit and hope I can M my lucius by tomorrow

[warm swan]

15-40 is a common wall for early game and yet I don't see much players sharing their winning comp. Searching this channel doesn't give anything

[brave oriole]

It's easy 15 40,charm ferael

[nova chasm]

finally!

rng-esus is kind

[wheat panther]

@primal jasper give rosaline call. She will charge the fastest in your entire lineup. Give shemira blade.

[warm swan]

If only they have a reliable Nem, then easy yes.

[wheat panther]

I think i one shotted that stage imo.

Back then brutus was my carry

I had rosaline following brutus XD was the BEST!

[hard forge]

lol

[stable rampart]

already tried a bunch but im out of ideas, any suggestions?

[brave oriole]

@stable rampart charm ferael, or, daimon team, pulling up its a bad idea anyway. You can just put rowan eironn front, tasi lyca Saurus

[stable rampart]

Ty gonna try it

[brave oriole]

But, eironn may need dura's call tho

[warm swan]

Yep, call on Eironn

[uncut crystal]

How is ur heroes lvl 305 and in ch30 mine is 313 and still in ch 29

Well guess im bad

[brave oriole]

Not the same heroes si etc?

What's your heroes?

[uncut crystal]

Its not letting me send a pic..

[elfin frost]

if it makes you feel better, i reached ch 30 with heroes at lv 322

[weak island]

Ideas? Belinda dies quick in both front lines, but when I put her behind, everyone else dies and the she ults and dies

[high pivot]

Are you trying to not use mercs for this fight? Just wondering.

[weak island]

I know, I still don't have a Rowan, but yeah no, preferably not

[high pivot]

Belinda
Tasi (If she doesn't get one shotted)
Nemora
Rosaline
Lucius

Make sure to move gear/artifacts to other characters if you're getting close. You might have to try a few times for RNG on charm for nemora

@weak island any luck?

[golden marsh]

whats a good counter to warick?

[high pivot]

@golden marsh do u mean warek?

[wind sable]

help pls 😭

[slender lagoon]

can someone help me i’ve been stuck for a few days who should i focus on and what should my lineup be ?

[golden marsh]

@high pivot ye warek mb

[high pivot]

He gains a shield from CCs so either overwhelm him with several CC character or keep him busy with a staller type character like brutus.

@wind sable Try
Nara
Rowan
Safiya
Tasi
Lucius

Make sure your artifacts and best gear are on your characters as they can be the difference between winning and losing a fight

[ivory sandal]

Anyone able to help me with 28-6, everything just gets 1 shot, so I cant even get any ultimates off

[empty spear]

I'm extremely struggling with this

[wind sable]

@high pivot okay

[empty spear]

It's a problem because Vedan and Saveas are on the same side

[high pivot]

@ivory sandal Might not work but try a few attempts with
Ainz
Albedo
Rowan
Talene
Ferael
Hopefully ferael can CC ezizh long enough for you to get some ults off

[wind sable]

didnt work sadly @high pivot

[high pivot]

Were you able to kill anyone or was it a one sided stomp?

[wind sable]

one sided stomp

[high pivot]

The biggest problem i see for you is you don't have a reliable carry at the moment

[wind sable]

😟 ill probably just have to wait until i could use a mercenary again wouldnt i?

[ivory sandal]

Didn't work , ezizh isn't really the problem

Its everyone else 1 shotting my guys

[high pivot]

I was about to say have u tried the eironn safiya lyca tasi ferael comp but then i realized u don't have tasi ascended :/

[empty spear]

Any input on mine?

[high pivot]

Let me take a look rumi

[ivory sandal]

I've tried that anyways, issue was the same , everyone gets 1 shot

Especially eirron who suicides by pulling them all to him

[high pivot]

Rosaline
Belinda
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi/Ferael/Arden

Until RNG Procs a favorable fight

Is what I would try @empty spear

@ivory sandal is rowan able to survive against brutus or no?

[warm swan]

@ivory sandal Try a variation of the dim comp with Ainz behind Arthur. Then Albedo, Talene and Rowan. See if the buff from Albedo's SI can help you survive a bit longer so Ainz can ult

[brittle vine]

I'm gonna build a fully graveborne team, is Silas better than switching in Nemora?

[shadow trellis]

Help please

[brave oriole]

@ivory sandal rowan should tank saveas with chalice, sometimes does sometimes not, so just restart if he dies. And just try daimon back of rowan.

But eironn need dura's call to cc in time ezizh

[ivory sandal]

@high pivot nope

I never understood how people say rowen is a good tank or can tank at all, mine is 4* ascended with 3x t1 gear and t2 boots, and no matter what occasion or scenario, rowen is always 1 shot or the first to die somehow

Hes also at si 25

[brittle vine]

Rowan is good if there's another healer to help him

Apart from that, he suffers from the Shemira problem of dying too quickly

[high pivot]

It's mostly because of his damage control skill, but I find he's quite reliable as a tank and if he gets his ultimate off in the frontline he just CCs for days as well.

[brittle vine]

Yeah, Rowan ult is stupid good in frontline

Stall is broken for AoE mages in mid

I mean, I wouldn't really know since Silvina always oneshots him in campaign

[high pivot]

I try to place him in a position where he doesn't get blown up at the start of the fight but if he works lined up with saveas that works. I was gonna suggest trying
Daimon
Rowan
Ferael/Twins
Talene

• 1 (Not really sure who here)

The important thing is that you find a comp that at least lets you get an ultimate off to start before anything else

[brittle vine]

My main team comp is
Nemora
Brutus/Sivlina
Mirael
Silvina/Brutus
Rowan

[brittle vine]

I always get Silv to ult but hen enemy Silv delets her

[brittle vine]

I'd recommend switching King dude and Rowan since he can die and come back

[rocky nimbus]

@ivory notch Talene should be in front line I would think. Also, Daimon should be your highest level.

[ivory sandal]

Twins are stupid weak, I dont have the resources to invest in their SI atm, tho +10 and 3/3 i would have thought would be fairly fine on them

But nope, confused how to make them viable in campaign

[brittle vine]

Honestly the main problem I have is I never get the heroes I need to ascend

[ivory notch]

My lineup feels a little lost

[brittle vine]

I'm one Nemora away from Ascended so pbht

[high pivot]

@ivory sandal actually you could actually try something like this
Daimon
Rowan
Ferael
Brutus (For the stall against saveas)
Talene (She'll move up for after brutus dies)

[brittle vine]

Or switch Farael and Talene since Talene takes forever to revive compared to Farael

[brave oriole]

Rowan can tank easy saveas there

[ivory sandal]

@high pivot si 20 daimon , but even when he shield the Brutus just walks up and taps daimon and he gets 1 shot even when shielded

[brittle vine]

Maybe, Saveas crits are terrifying

Dude one shot my Nemora once

[high pivot]

Xperta what comp would u recommend, you always give solid advice in this channel

[brave oriole]

He's missing a good tasi, but
Safiya
Lyca
Eironn call
Rowan chalice
Daimon call/ferael eye, Saurus etc.
Not sure how lyca will work front, possible to need Saurus and rowan front

[weak island]

Sorry about the wait, Tasi does in fact get oneshotted. If I swap her with Rosa, she lives a bit, but not much of a difference

[brittle vine]

imo, Tasi is good very early game

Any other time she gets one shot or staggered too much

[high pivot]

@brave oriole that was the initial team i thought would work but then i saw no tasi 😭

[brave oriole]

Well, eironn with eye or else will never cc in time ezizh, only with call

[high pivot]

@weak island swap brutus for tasi

[ivory sandal]

@high pivot we talking about me ? I just got my tasi to mythic, I just some fodder for a legendary + so I can ascend her

[high pivot]

When i was referring to xperta that was the comp i originally wanted to recommend to you

[stiff plaza]

What team should i make cuz i cant progress anymore

[summer cedar]

read pins in #classic-questions . if u dont understand anything there ask in that channel for clarification.

[wide gust]

any chance for help?

[empty spear]

I got it, but the team was cursed as heck

Arden was definitely the play, thanks for that. Brutus basically just fell over immediately where Albedo didn't, and having athalia meant Isabelle got more central and she was a distraction away from belinda

[summer cedar]

id run arden over nara here, esp since he's 141. im unsure if frontline daimon works this early without +20

[wide gust]

@summer cedar indeed he dies way too fast but i have no idea who to put in the front ive just tried doing alot of thing thats why nara is there and not arden tho he is most of the time the one to cc

and my daimon atm is +17 not quite the +20 yet

[idle nest]

any help please? i feel like this should be easy but i get wiped.. idk if there’s a solid team i can use i’ve been kinda just swapping everyone out and just hoping something works lol

[warm swan]

Try Brutus, Lyca, Shem, Tasi, Lucius?

[summer cedar]

I'd try brutus shem frontline, tasi rowan lyca backline. brutus/shem can swap, tasi/lyca can swap. brutus is there for guaranteed ~8secs of tanking, but luci can swap in assuming he lives long enough to ult.

[high pivot]

@empty spear glad to hear I actually just beat chapt 26 so im super amped about that

[pale kettle]

🤔🤔 best end : Ferael vs Skreg

[idle nest]

this worked thank youuuu

i think i just need to get better armor ...

[pale kettle]

my izold can stay 5 vs 1 but he cant kill one Zzz

[west sluice]

I need some help

[summer cedar]

try hogan brutus lyca rowan belinda. stop building L heroes

[proven gulch]

Hey guys I am having a difficult time on this level. Any obvious changes I can make?

[summer cedar]

nara is not great at front. try brutus in her place. can swap mira and rowan too

[proven gulch]

Yeah I’m on using Nara to stop the vampire. He is broken 😡

[gusty ocean]

Switch nara and rowen

[proven gulch]

Okay I’ll try that

[gusty ocean]

Therefore isabel dies and if nara get her ultimate she gain shield and could take the vampire out

[proven gulch]

Still not cutting it. Nara dies too quick 😦

[gusty ocean]

Sorry then cant help

[proven gulch]

Yeah going to afk a bit and upgrade items more. Thanks so much @gusty ocean

[thorny stirrup]

Would anyone be able to help me out with making teams for challengers tournament?

[hard forge]

I need an adult

[cloud fossil]

This is so tough

[outer pewter]

@cloud fossil

[wide gust]

any ideas?

[outer pewter]

@thorny stirrup

[thorny stirrup]

I’ll give those a try thanks!

[outer pewter]

Ideally, rosaline need to follow gwyneth for team 3

[open fossil]

Hey all. I feel like I should be able to progress more, but my team building is maybe sub optimal. Any tips/suggestions?

[outer pewter]

Rowan front with talene, sub ferael/eironn/tasi/ daimon for ainz

Call twins, chalice rowan, blade talene, eye lyca, tasi/daimon call @open fossil

[open fossil]

@outer pewter thanks! I'll try it out!

[wide gust]

any ideas?

[outer pewter]

anytime 🙂

[summer cedar]

id swap arden and lyca. call on arden and he should root b4 estrilda charges

[wide gust]

ill try and since i only have one call atm what should i put on daimon since he has the call @summer cedar

btw he dies (arden) within the first 3 sec he gets oneshoted even with the call

[desert edge]

Any ideas? This team takes me out fast.

[hushed timber]

Any help?

[desert edge]

@hushed timber maybe try switching out your safiya for Belinda or Shemira? Make sure they have the top armor on and whatever relic works best for them in this battle. 

I always forget to switch around armor lol

[hushed timber]

@desert edge when you fight your stage, who does silvina attack on your team?

[desert edge]

@hushed timber Belinda

I hate silvina so much

[hushed timber]

@desert edge maybe try putting nara where belinda is, and then try, and if that doesnt work try swapping shemira for belinda

@desert edge nara will pull silvina and lock her down

[pulsar crest]

stuck pls help

[desert edge]

@hushed timber when it’s Nara and shemira she goes after shemira and then if it’s Belinda it gets close

[hushed timber]

@desert edge keep trying with belinda like 5 times

@pulsar crest put lyca bottom back, mirael mid back, and rose front with lucius

[feral tulip]

is this still meta? also who is front and who is back?

[outer pewter]

there are variation of god comp, this one works

[feral tulip]

these are my teams and i wonder if god comp is worth it. its doable rn

[outer pewter]

@feral tulip i can create three teams for you, need your hero pool

[feral tulip]

Thanks i will DM you :3

[pulsar crest]

that's working much much better but still only able to kill 2

[hushed timber]

@pulsar crest is tasi doing anything for you? You could try swappibg lyca or tasi for arden

[pulsar crest]

pretty much everyone except for lucius and mirael get 1 shot, but tasi actually manages to banish once before dying

[karmic valve]

What would be the best comp? I'm stuck at 9-20

[pulsar crest]

(2-shot, actually)

just won it, I put mirael bottom back and lyca mid back so mirael kills saveas with her ult, thanks!

[pearl zinc]

29-60 with Gwyn anyone?

[grim bolt]

Any tips on beating this one? May have hit the wall of what I can complete before I level up some more

[primal jasper]

@grim bolt don't ascend to L if u can't immediatly L+. Keep fodder to M Lucuis for frontline in later stages. Shemira, lucius, rowan, rosa. And as 5th depending u switch out, Estrilda, Lyca, Brutus, Saveas. Try to get an L+ fodder tier hero of every faction. A good comp is L+ Mirael, L+ Arden, lyca E+, Tasi E+, and Rowan.

Always save the red boxes that let's u choose heroes until lategame.

[inland rune]

Can someone help me why should my team be?

[primal jasper]

@inland rune I just proposed 2 comps that should work til chapter 24

Also.don't L a hero if u can't L+

[grim bolt]

@primal jasper Thanks for the tips, yeah I know the not ascending part now, just didn't on my third day when I did that for them both, oops

[primal jasper]

It's a common mistake for early, and not too big of a deal in your first weeks.

[grim bolt]

Yeah, also gonna have to reset some of my heroes since I leveled lucretia and won't be ascending her anytime soon lol

[primal jasper]

Always level your 5 highest ascended heroes and the others in the crystal

[inland rune]

I know my main is level 109

[grim bolt]

Yeah, learned that now, will lose some diamonds but a learning experience

[inland rune]

I just need lineup help

[primal jasper]

Shem luci rosa rowan is pretty good

[pale kettle]

need some help

[grim bolt]

@primal jasper Think there's a lineup with what I have now that's possible to beat this stage or just gotta wait?

[pale kettle]

@grim bolt ill take a look at the u have and see

[grim bolt]

I posted the pics above

[pale kettle]

yeah i looked at it and personally im not sure i ran belinda up till about stage 23

[grim bolt]

Yeah I just got the 7 day log in for Bellinda today, so haven't been able to use her yet

[pale kettle]

you definetly will wanna use her instead of shem for a while

shem is pretty weak till u have her si maxxed out

[grim bolt]

sounds good, plan on swapping around my heroes soon for a lineup which I can actually level past 100

[hardy oriole]

any 33-60 guides?

[modest arrow]

How should I build for this ae? Like for going across the map. Focus mage or celerity and who? What starter comp can I use before I use the main comp? (If that's a thing, I picked it up from somewhere)

[pale kettle]

@modest arrow personally i would main what you have more of the last ae i did that and nearly hit the final rank with Celerity but thats because i have a bunch of them

[modest arrow]

This is my first ae :o

[pale kettle]

@modest arrow well you should chose what u have most and focus only that and u can max out easily and run with a good guild then u can with ease

[primal jasper]

This is the closest I come to getting shemira ult 2x. But she never does. Luci ults 1 time.

[leaden turtle]

You can run saveas, daimon or Belinda before 160 after Shermira is good until 240ish
Daimon gets better

[leaden turtle]

Have you tried saveas at level 120? Best carry at this level, Shermira shines later on, I'd use belinda at this point for you
With Rowan Lucius
Maybe wukon if you up him and definitely Tasi!

[random bay]

Can someone give me a little help one this one? I have tried it with Rosaline+Shemira Frontline, also tried Tasi to get Silvina away from rowan but it doesn't seem to work as they do too much damage

[primal jasper]

I was there today :p

Leme find the comp

[teal wagon]

https://pee-in.my-ey.es/7HkCz4b.png any recommendations on who I should be focusing and if I'm missing any seriously necessary heroes?

[leaden turtle]

Rowan, Saurus, Ferael

Nara is useful to pick out troublesome enemies too

Grow Talene with stargazer

[teal wagon]

would you say rowan as a top pick to go for first and then work for Talene or push to use diamonds on Talene before rowan, f2p btw

[leaden turtle]

Don't use diamonds for Talene, just use the cards as they come, just chose her as the hero choice
Definitely Rowan!! Is useful everywhere, he gets real tanky too

[idle nest]

any suggestions? :/

i’ve tried sooo... much... and i’m so close to finishing this chapter hahahah

[leaden turtle]

Shemira-lucius Tasi-Lyca-rowab
If Rowan get killed u can use Lucius as support in backline and Brutus front line
You can use Nara to deal with trouble

[stuck trellis]

@pearl zinc gwyn 29-60
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/770793447313244170/29-60.png

[pearl zinc]

Thank you!

[grim bolt]

Thanks for the tips, will try that out in the coming days

[idle nest]

@leaden turtle tried all suggestions but nothin seemed to have worked .. is there another hero better at 200?

[leaden turtle]

Which enemy gives you trouble? Damage or cc wise

[idle nest]

honestly their entire back line hurts a lot

but mainly assassin. i tried nara but didn’t rly work

if there’s a hero that a good counter i should try to pull suggestions would b amazing. i came back from a pretty long break and all i know is shemira brutus tasi lyca and lucius was meta now that seemed to have changed a lot

[leaden turtle]

Daimon is tanky carry like a real beast, but your shemira is still better
You can try Shem-lucius fawkes-rowan-daimon
If daimon is too low maybe double tank
Brutus-lucius Shem-Rowan-nemora(Tasi, Luca)

[idle nest]

yeah my daimon dies nearly immediately :/ nothing but my ascended /mythic+ lives very longs

i’ll try that though hold on

[leaden turtle]

Don't forget to set the right gear too!

[idle nest]

i think that’s also my problem i’m kind of lacking gear. idk how people have such nice gear lol

[wide gust]

i cant beat this stage at all any ideas?

[leaden turtle]

Time... 🥲

[leaden turtle]

You're near your max, probably should upgrade a bit!

[wide gust]

thought so 2 but i was thinking maybe i can push a bit more tho i came very far when i have 141 as base 🙂

[leaden turtle]

You might need some new heroes too, tasi, Rosa and such

[wide gust]

i do have rosa E+ however tasi i do not own

[leaden turtle]

Yeah daimon will do that, but you need a team that stalls as much as possible to let him ult, so keeping your CC alive is important

[wide gust]

arden is the one doing that most of the time but he gets one shoted before he can do that and brutus is helping

[leaden turtle]

Arden will fall quite a bit, you use him some specific battles but you'll switch soon
Daimon works well with Nara, tasi, Rowan, and Ferael (at 220+

[wide gust]

i have nara 4 copies rowan ofc he is M ferael 4 copies and none of tasi im right now working on fodder for farael as i know he is well fit in daimon comps but he is quite weak before 221 so yeah im a long long way from that consedring im having hard time getting 160 base 🙂

[leaden turtle]

Getting everyone to 161 will help, play afk for a while, you'll be able to get daimon up too

[wide gust]

yeah long road of afk well i am pushing myself quite far when i dont even have a month playing this game so idk i feel like everyone in my stage is always base 180/160 and carry at 220/200 and never know if im just pushing hard fast or i dont know where to get hero dust

[leaden turtle]

Takes time, and for dust mostly with daily shop and bounties

[warm atlas]

Anyone help. The athalya kills me.

[wide gust]

oh sorry ment hero experience i have yet to meet the dust wall tho i know it will come

[leaden turtle]

Try Lucius-Rowan rosa-shem-fawkes

[leaden turtle]

Yess it will stack up, you've not hit it, cus you've yet to fully upgrade your lineup

[wide gust]

i guess it must hit around the 160/180 mark but im not there yet and btw just to clear it im not quite able to clear that stage ha? well its waiting game i assume

[pale kettle]

My question is loading with a picture

Should I use anyone in there to replace on my lineup?

[leaden turtle]

Shouldn't have tree in your whishlist 🥲

[pale kettle]

Wdym

[leaden turtle]

Whishlist for wilder is
Tasi Lyca Saurus eironn nemora

[pale kettle]

Ok

Should I use anyone I pulled

[leaden turtle]

No not right now Belinda ain't bad
Good heroes right now are
Belinda, Rowan, Lyca, eironn, Lucius, daimon
You should also over LVL your carry

[pale kettle]

So is Belinda my carry?

[idle nest]

so should i stop focusing on shemira and level up daimon?

[leaden turtle]

Daimon will be good until the end of days, Shermira will fall

[pale kettle]

Who is my carry

[leaden turtle]

Yes but you need tankyness you got nothing right now, so slowly work on getting a tank
You can use wukong (you get one for free) as a frontline for a while

[pale kettle]

How do I get one for free

[leaden turtle]

It's should be in the events for beginners, you can share unions, there's guide about it

[compact finch]

Does anyone have Mortas merc I can borrow 😭

[raw rune]

#mercenary

[cyan solar]

stupid rat ends up poisoning my eironn which gets him killed in seconds, any ideas?

[leaden turtle]

If Nara survive you can pull him, tasi might banish it

[cyan solar]

that did the trick

ended up having daimon 2v4 with talene

[leaden turtle]

Might need to choose between eironn safiya and daimon
Daimon works well with tasi and Ferael, Nara too

Might need a Rowan instead of a Brutus too

By the way daimon as tank for faster ult quite useful

[pale kettle]

Stuck here no clue what to do

[granite apex]

can I get some help pls

[leaden turtle]

Talene-Rowan feareal-daimon-Tasi?

[stuck trellis]

@granite apex @pale kettle scroll up

you need nara or athalia on mehira stages, otherwise she will just one shot eveyrone on your team

[leaden turtle]

So Talene-Rowan tasi-nara-daimon

Sorry nara-tasi 😓

[stuck trellis]

saf can be swapped out for daimon if ur +10 saf isnt doign enough

[compact finch]

Thanks man!

[pale kettle]

Dont have nara should i get a athalia or nara merc @stuck trellis

[stuck trellis]

yeah probably

[granite apex]

Mine isn’t a mehira stage

[stuck trellis]

scroll up, i posted a different SS for you

[mild geyser]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

How do u guys photo shop that

[cyan solar]

as soon as vedan ults my team dies, any idea?

[leaden turtle]

Put daimon on him, might need Rowan to stun him

I wouldn't use Nara if she has nothing to pull

[cyan solar]

she pulls isabella who also kills my team if she ults

[raw rune]

...yeah that's generally the case with vedan lol

[leaden turtle]

Who does dmg in your team?

[cyan solar]

eironn daimon and saf

[leaden turtle]

With 3 carry your not using enough To support one of them
With daimon you wanna stall the fight with cc
With eironn safiya you wanna energize
You might have to chose one of them

[cyan solar]

had to use rowan to bait the stabby assassin girl from stunning my safiya

[dusky mirage]

rosaline and angelo instakill my team, any ideas?

[brave oriole]

@dusky mirage yeah, don't pull angelo and put Brutus front up.

Try maybe
Lyca
Brutus
Ferael
Rowan
Eironn

But i would. Prefer daimon instead of ferael if you have

[dusky mirage]

sadly i dont

also my brutus is weak af and doesnt make me meet power req

i think ill try to cheese with izold

[brave oriole]

Try then gwyn?

[chilly mortar]

niru tanks dmg for no reason

[summer cedar]

niru stat-steals after any hero dies. try luci in place of thoran, brutus for talene, swap ainz/lyca

[pale lagoon]

can anyone help me out 🙂

idk if i should be transitioning to shemira or belinda carry, but i think its too early for belinda is it not? i dont have any daimon either... :/

[chilly mortar]

@summer cedar talene doesn't count as a kill right?

[summer cedar]

i dont believe so. that said since she's only purple I imagine she's not tanking more than 2 shots

[chilly mortar]

her heals are insane

and luci feels useless doesn't ult

ainz gets silenced/feared when he can cast

[summer cedar]

im genuinely shocked every time I hear that. at ur lvl my luci always reliably ult'd after blessed shield.

[chilly mortar]

nah he's more useless than thoran it feels

since thoran is free cc with nara

and I lose fac bonus for luci

yep

[summer cedar]

I suppose it's the lack of rowan. try luci brutus ainz rowan lyca. if u can rng past fera's spirits perhaps. faction bonus almost means nothing at all compared to team synergy

[chilly mortar]

replaced luci and won

[summer cedar]

gratz. im honestly still confused luci didnt let me down till a few chapters past where you are. i have no idea why that is

[chilly mortar]

I think its that ainz is my team and I need cc(nara with thoran) talene heals and lyca for haste and mana

why shem just tanked 10m

[rugged bane]

Alright, I got quite close once but haven't been able to come nearly as close since. If Tasi is able to ult before Ulmus becomes a tree, I can kill him, but from the one attempt that I did kill him, Daimon wasn't able to survive long enough cause Golus kept stunning him. Any advice as to how I can improve it more?

[cyan solar]

what on earth do i do, i just die to everything and everyone

[chilly mortar]

@summer cedar chap 21 ty

[dapper oyster]

Hey could somebody advise me what lineup should I be running? Currently running saurus rowan talene/farel eiron tasi

[summer cedar]

brutus skreg lyca rowan daimon methinks. call on rowan/daimon

[thin wind]

Any tips for this? Can't seems to pass in in anyway

[crude hinge]

would this team be better if arthur replaces thoran?

[wispy tartan]

daimon behind brutus. drop rowan, probably for talene. Remove gear from brutus as needed so the assassin bitch jumps on him instead

Early on before I got rowan M+30 I found her just a hindrance with that assassin chick, so I dropped rowan whenever she showed up.

[rugged bane]

@summer cedar I replaced Skreg with Thoran and that did it 👍

[pale lagoon]

any ideas? ping me please.

[stuck vigil]

I’m thinking about getting ainz, but I don’t have enough for albedo, what should I use?

[flint marlin]

Starting to build post 161 team, any suggestions?

right now i only need to level the starter characters to 160 and done, i need to start setting for next team

[stuck trellis]

@flint marlin ascend daimon for now and level him to 180

[flint marlin]

any suggestion for team? should i use him on backrow or frontrow?

[stuck trellis]

when he's overleveled u can frontline him, team would be something like daimon saveas rowan arden lyca

daimon rowan tasi safiya would be ideal probably for your next adcnesions, but do daimon for now and wait until crystal 160 before making any other choices

[flint marlin]

okay, i like the idea of using daimon and safiya, looks very buffy cuz safiya increases dps

im still a bit confused about frontrow tho, if i use overleveled daimon on front, with those options you said, i will have no tanker at all

[storm meadow]

Any suggestions? Stucked here for few days

[hushed timber]

Any help? They heal too much and its always 1v5 with daimon ulting 4 or 5 times then just gets 1 shot

[stuck trellis]

@flint marlin saveas would be your tank there. you could also do something like

[unit]
[unit]
[unit]
talene
tank

so that talene soaks the initial burst damage, and ur tank walks up and blocks the frontline while talene revives

[flint marlin]

so something like, saveas, talene, daimon, safiya, rowan/lyca/arden/tasi

[cyan solar]

ira and arden are both really annoying, any idea?

[tranquil walrus]

any help for me?

[ocean vale]

help...

[hollow timber]

King's tower 169, ainz and daimon are getting melted before they can ult, also fairly sure they won't finish the job

[warm swan]

@tranquil walrus Sub Lyca in for maybe Talene since you have Rowan for healing, and see if that makes your heroes, particularly Shem, ult faster.

[tranquil walrus]

thx ill try that!

[maiden marsh]

Athalia really raining on my daimon parade, advice?

[somber moss]

Hi all, which is the best line up for wrizz and soren guild boss atm

[hollow timber]

theres links in the pins or #545929173471068170

[hard forge]

Any ideas?

[grim bolt]

Recommendations on a better setup for right here? Even as simply as moving them around on the field if you think there's a better way to position them

[warm swan]

Try Brutus, Shem, Lucius, Nem, Rosa. See if Nem can charm Fera first so he fears his teammates instead. @hard forge

[thorny hollow]

When’s the best time to start stargazing and who to go for ?

[summer cedar]

#classic-questions. personally, u need at least 25 Asc heroes, but im no expert

[outer pewter]

around 20, where you have the Legends championship tournament hero build
then you can gaze

[twin oracle]

I am once again asking for your help

[warm swan]

@twin oracle Sub Lyca in for Talene and swap her with Shem's position. Can Nara manage to cc Arden? Otherwise switch to Nem in her position.

[twin oracle]

Its rng but she can, ok will try

[stuck trellis]

@lilac sandal

[lilac sandal]

What you want me to SS?

[stuck trellis]

what ur tryign right now

[lilac sandal]

First fight

[stuck trellis]

show your comp i mean

[lilac sandal]

I've been trying a whole bunch of different positions so they're a bit screwy rn

[stuck trellis]

try this

tasi
eironn
lyca
rowan
fera

[pearl zinc]

You can't gwyn that?

[summer cedar]

I used ur box+merc tasi. This can work. unsure if eironn's30 and shems 3f makes a huge diff

[twin oracle]

Nah it all melts 1shot in both those comps @warm swan

[lilac sandal]

Rowan

Hendrik
Gwyn
Arthur
Rosa
gets one shot @pearl zinc

@stuck trellis Nope

[stuck trellis]

how many times did u retry it?

[lilac sandal]

5

[summer cedar]

make sure u pause battle and retry if it's going south btw. the comp I shared took a coupla tries too

[stuck trellis]

keep going
ur running eironn, 5 is nothing

[lilac sandal]

aight, another 15 here we go

[twin oracle]

Any tips for me kind people ?

[stuck trellis]

this is also really importnat, will save ur sanity in things like VoW where you have to go through a lot of text/restart if u die

[lilac sandal]

8th additional try and i got it, and yeah i have been pausing. Keep using same comp?

[stuck trellis]

@twin oracle level daimon to 180 by resetting shemira, try this

daimon
brutus
arden (put him on crystal)
talene
lucius

@lilac sandal yessir
eironn tasi lyca rowan + safiya/ferael is op everywhere, should be ur campaign comp as well

[lilac sandal]

Ive been using the gwyn comp i posted above

[stuck trellis]

eironn comp > gwyn comp with your box

[lilac sandal]

My tasi sucks though which is sad - have the copies not the food

[stuck trellis]

yeah, just have to frontline lyca and backline tasi
you'll struggle for now i guess

[pale kettle]

Can I get some help, who should I be focusing on and a good formation setup

[stuck trellis]

read the pins in #classic-questions , they will answer your questions @pale kettle

[twin oracle]

I have no arden @stuck trellis

[pale kettle]

@stuck trellis thanks

[stuck trellis]

use a rare one or something

[twin oracle]

Ehh

[summer cedar]

he's there for cc. roots OP. dmg is irrelevant

[stuck trellis]

@lilac sandal you end up doing hundreds of retries per stage with eironn comp, but in return you get to push very far with low levels 😄
once u get daimon eironn comp becomes way less rng though

[lilac sandal]

Yeah rip need 6 more of him

[twin oracle]

Also my brutus isnt geared since both daimon and lucius uses same

So ye

[summer cedar]

brutus' gear is nearly irrelevant. he's there for his guaranteed invuln tanking ability, nothing more. i suppose the roar's a nice bonus tho

[cyan solar]

isabella ults and my team is dead, shes usually the last one alive

[tawdry fjord]

a little help please?

[leaden turtle]

Remove Nara put eironn at its place, safiya middle back, top back use what ever helps

[cyan solar]

ah i figured it out from before, thank you however

currently stuck on this behemoth, with saveas doing saveas things and the rat with two axes ulting my team

[amber halo]

@cyan solar u need some frontline like Brutus or Lucius right now u got multiple carries

[keen gust]

Anyone have an idea on how to succeed here?

[golden bluff]

Hello, can you give me advice to form my team or a future team? I've been playing for a month and still don't understand the heroes much

[leaden turtle]

Are you leaning more graveborn or wilder? As a personal preference

[slender scroll]

How can I beat this?

[golden bluff]

mmm i've been debating that, for now i have more copies of wilders but i also would want to upgrade Daimon and Silas

[leaden turtle]

I'm all for daimon
For him you need stalling heroes, so Tasi, Ferael (lvl220+), Nara, rowan, Fawkes (as a situational alternative)
For tank you could go Lucius at first than transition to thoran
I'm using Talene-rowan with no tank

[leaden turtle]

Try Shermira-lucius rowan-nara-lyca
Transfer the gear too of needed!

[golden bluff]

thank you, I will keep those recommendations in mind

[twin arch]

need help for the 15-40 pls :c

[slender scroll]

@leaden turtle that comp dies also

[stark summit]

my current formation lucius hogan shemira rowan and nara, can i make a better team comp? And with who should i replace hogan on future

[amber badge]

Any help for faction tower 😦

[tame tusk]

Any heroes that could use Dura’s Call or should I level up Rowan and give it to him?

[astral merlin]

any team comp for misty valley stage 12 gold ?

[fathom siren]

Threw my 💳 at the game. What should I use for my general purpose/campaign team?

[low ravine]

@fathom siren Read pinned messages. Wu Kong carry, a tank, 3 supports

@tame tusk Rowan is an extremely useful hero, put him on the crystal for sure, and yea, I'd put Call on him too. Stop ascending heroes to L unless you have 4 copies of that hero

[tame tusk]

Is there a reason to stop ascending?

[hushed crow]

Hey,

I'm one day in at 6-5, my current setup is Thiran (1), Talene (2), Tasi (3), Lyca (4) and Gorvo (5). I'm quite satisfied with the progress i've made, but i'm wondering if there are any rare units worth the investment into higher tiers, specifically with story progression in mind. Any thoughts?

[uncut stone]

Stuck again...

[primal jasper]

Seems like i need some survivability here

Is luci holding up? Is tasi ulting?

[uncut stone]

Nope

[primal jasper]

Like me, too squishy :p

[uncut stone]

Is there like specific artifacts to put on specific heroes that i need to know of?

[primal jasper]

Maybe call on luci so he ults faster, or on tasi

[uncut stone]

Alright

Equipped call on both of em and instantly completed it. Thanks

[pale monolith]

Gems are the worst purchase,wait for special offers when ypu complete chapters ypu will get 1 guatanteed Elite for 1$. I'd go with Brutus,Ainz,Gwyen,Safya,Lucius

[timid perch]

Help, please

[cyan solar]

this team eats me, especially shemira, and i can't put nara on her or else isabella eats me

[bleak bridge]

Need some help boys