#lineup-help

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tepid shale
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Anyways hold on I’ll try and help cause I k stuff about like later game but not early game

full patio
split peak
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@full patio i cant believe ur stuck at chapter 30-31

tepid shale
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You not having eiroon

full patio
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I don’t have eiron

stuck trellis
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@pliant holly can u merc?

tepid shale
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Sucks tbh

full patio
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He’s ascended no stars

pliant holly
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no @stuck trellis

split peak
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How are u guys getting so far in the game without building eironn

pliant holly
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how far are you draggy654

full patio
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When I started I didn’t know the basics I used eiron as fodder... I didn’t join a guild until lvl 90+

stuck trellis
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@pliant holly try this

lyca
tasi
athalia
rowan
daimon

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gorvo can do nasty damage, but its likely mehira who's actually oneshotting your team

pliant holly
tepid shale
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Oof

split peak
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@stuck trellis if he can maybe coffin mehira with fawkes that can potentially let him wreck the rest as long as gorvo doesn’t wipe the team

stuck trellis
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fawkes won't coffin mehira there

very likely he coffin lyca or raine

split peak
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@stuck trellis yeah it would be naive to hope to coffin mehira that easily to be fair

pliant holly
stuck trellis
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oh what that fast? what crystal level are u

split peak
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@stuck trellis he is 310+

pliant holly
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312

tepid shale
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Good job Gucci

stuck trellis
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ahh I see. well thats probably going to be your main lineup. rowan lyca tasi rowan + flex unit (brutus, athalia, fawkes, basically just any stall for daimon)@pliant holly

tepid shale
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What can I use to beat this without a Nara cause my Nara is elite +

split peak
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@tepid shale is ur lucius getting an ult if not possibly replace him with rosa

tepid shale
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Rosa is bb

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She’s elite + too bro

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Sorry that old ss

stuck trellis
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lucius
talene
rowan
satrana
fawkes

@tepid shale that would be my best guess

split peak
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@tepid shale rosa will most likely do better than a lucius that doesnt ult even at e+

tepid shale
split peak
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@tepid shale u never told me if lucius is getting his ult off?

tepid shale
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Oof that did worse than my like up

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He dies too fast sometimes he gets to sometimes he doesn’t

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It depends on the line up the issue is satrana dies too fast.

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She is good for a long time but Yanno she can only carry the team so long lol

split peak
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U need to replace lucius even with his ult at that lvl it takes one shot to break it

stuck trellis
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oh wait. swap falene and satrana, swap lucius and fawkes

tepid shale
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Nope

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Ok but who do I replace him with is what I’m trying to find out

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Talene can only do so much she takes too long to get to her healing

split peak
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Try both rosa and nemora

tepid shale
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In what Spots

split peak
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Probably back, u can also try having fawkes and rowan up front both can be tankish if u get good rng

tepid shale
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Ok but don’t the places matter

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No offense but fawkes died so fast up there

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👀

split peak
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U need to randomly try em i cant guarantee any position especially since i cant see the battle its honestly a guessing game

empty spear
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you probably want Rowan in a spot so he can hit everyone

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so back middle

tepid shale
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That’s where I had him

split peak
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@empty spear that doesnt matter as much as u think having him always mid back will stop u from being creative

empty spear
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Oh I agree

tepid shale
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But whose going to take the damage

empty spear
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I swap it around myself depending but idk really waht anyone else does lol

tepid shale
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Also he just isn’t doing well lol

split peak
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@tepid shale u desperately need to build a hero to tank as it stands right now u have bo hero to reliably tank for u

tepid shale
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Im going to video record a battle and send it maybe that will help lol but I’ll use my original team

empty spear
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Personally I'd try Lucius, Talene, Fawkes, Rowan, Satrana

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Who's even doing damage there

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On your team, not theirs

split peak
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@empty spear he is very limited in his choices the best he can hope for is amazing rng but he will be stuck for a while until he builds heroes such as eiron and daimon

craggy night
tepid shale
split peak
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@craggy night u need stop trying to rush making heroes legendary without enough to upgrade to legendary plus is very risky and will put u at a wall u need to upgrade ur daimon to 40 lvls higher than ur top5 plus do note u have multiple damage dealers which is not ideal

near plover
tepid shale
split peak
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@tepid shale u simply lack any damage dealers so pls for the time being stop focusing on that stage and start building a carry also iphone has a native screen recorder just though u should know

tepid shale
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Ye I k I just like this one better it runs better

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And but Idek what carry I’m building

split peak
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@tepid shale shem daimon are two of the best solo carry heroes

tepid shale
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Daimon?

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Ok I’ll try for it more often

split peak
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@tepid shale u could also build lucius and belinda synergy but later on they will only be useful for faction tower

tepid shale
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So Belinda is an option?

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Cause Belinda I can deff get to ascended with fodder

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Same with Lucy

split peak
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Yes if u have both u will have no problems for a decent period though again late game she is far weaker

tepid shale
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Ye but it’s easier to buy me time with hero’s I already have to collect daimon copy

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And cheaper owo

split peak
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Eironn is op but he needs lvl30 sig i dont k ow if u have the resources to build him that far this early

tepid shale
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If I get another copy I’ll deff build him

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He’s just legendary rn I had to get him there for this one stage lol

split peak
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@tepid shale do u have red sigs saved up if u have 200-300reds dont be shy in putting everything on him he is basically tasi and belinda combined

tepid shale
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Oh didn’t know but not a ton I only have like 50

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Or 60 something around there but next event I’ll get more

split peak
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@tepid shale do u know what he does?

tepid shale
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I actually haven’t read into him I just knew he was good from Reddit

split peak
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He pulls everything to one spot his ult is high damage aoe with the added effect of freezing heroes caught in it

tepid shale
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Ik team combos with him lol

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Ah ok ty

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Ye I wish I had more copies but for now he’s legendary

split peak
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This is a team a lot of ppl use from chapter 24 to 32 also do note i am not stuck just farming otherwise i wouldnt be at only chapter 31

split peak
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Ezio daimon eironn rowan lyca in that order

empty spear
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I'm having a lot of trouble with this

split peak
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@empty spear why would u have nara not pull mirael to ur side?

empty spear
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Was testing stuff

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I've been messing with Eiron but he keeps getting interrupted by Estrilda

dry blaze
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@empty spear put belinda front of golus and nara pull mirael, that maybe could do something but not sure. would be easier if we knew your full roster haha

dry blaze
empty spear
split peak
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@dry blaze what were u lacking?

dry blaze
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@empty spear try take belinda out and put ainz instead back middle, rowan front bot nara back top. who knows might work out haha

split peak
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@dry blaze i guess tasi is a must for u maybe replace ezio with tasi and try again can u tell me if ur doing enough damage?

empty spear
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I think I need sig for ainz before he's even remotely useable, just the base one

dry blaze
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he is useable without sig too just need more time

empty spear
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Everyone is dying too fast rn for him to get ult off that's for sure

dry blaze
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@split peak eironnjusr destroyed daimon and tasi haha

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@empty spear btw make your belinda 160 or 180

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you want your carry be your highest at all times

split peak
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@dry blaze ah crap eironn is a big issue do u have fawkes to possibly coffin him

dry blaze
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i have E+ fawkes but he is not in crystal nor do i have gear for him

empty spear
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Yeah ex I know, I'm lacking dust rn

dry blaze
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its just then afk time till you got enough

empty spear
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yup

split peak
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Man u guys are reminding me of the shitty times when i also had no hero to beat stuff

dry blaze
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lmao

split peak
empty spear
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that's a lot of tanks

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I've got fuck all tanks and a bazillion different supports

split peak
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U guys also should save up 3k gems like me for the upcoming ae

split peak
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@pale kettle try thoran cheese or god comp

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Nmv no thoran try arthur gwen comp instead

pale kettle
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That's pretty bad for defend comps. Eironn, Nara, Ath, Cecilia, Drez all shit on it

dry blaze
split peak
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@dry blaze nice as u can see eironn is great back mid

dry blaze
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@split peak eiron was back top daimon back mid 😄

split peak
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What? How is eironn mid back in the battle review then?

dry blaze
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eironn is third from top which is back top 😄

First is front top, second front bottom then third is back top

split peak
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Well regardless congrats

dry blaze
glacial brook
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best 15 heros to use for lineup?

dry blaze
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@glacial brook varies. depends also is it early mid or late game

glacial brook
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i think i’m mid game

dry blaze
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ch 18+?

split peak
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@glacial brook as i said in the other chat the progress in the game matters greatly

glacial brook
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i gotta fight 3 to progress

pale kettle
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End game

glacial brook
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i struggled with 2

dry blaze
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well one of best campaign carries till ch 24 is shemira

pale kettle
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He's not at 24

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He's 32+

dry blaze
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ooh

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god comp, gwyneth comp and ainz comp defo then

pale kettle
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You need to build comps

Eironn/Safiya
Gwyneth
God
Thoran Cheese
Daimon
Ainz

split peak
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@glacial brook that will take a long time to build that team luck has a big factor i dont care how good a hero is if u have it at e+ with terrible gear it will do nothing

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So pls do us a favor and show us ur heroes so we can help

pale kettle
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@split peak not true. You can basically use Lyca at E lvl 1

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But very few if any others like that lol

glacial brook
split peak
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@pale kettle not when she gets one shot when enemy heroes just breath on her

atomic sail
split peak
atomic sail
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Oops

pale kettle
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@glacial brook
Gwyneth Arthur Rosa core
Eironn Safiya Tasi core
Daimon or Ainz comp

atomic sail
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Sorry

split peak
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@atomic sail its ok u can obviously ask if u need help but we try to not have unrelated topics in here

atomic sail
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Didn't realize I was in the wrong chat 🤓

cyan solar
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the whole entire backrow just kills

split peak
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@cyan solar focus on building daimon as a carry saf is a good hero late game but as a carry she lacks a lot

cyan solar
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i'm planning to do other things belinda ,
just kinda need suggestions on how to beat this stage

split peak
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@cyan solar like what? What i am telling u will help u a lot dont build redundant heroes even if u might be stuck for a while its worth it to build the right stuff

cyan solar
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planning on building eironn, can't really do much about daimon thanks to the fact i L'd him

split peak
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@cyan solar do u get choice hero yet? Eironn is for sure great but he also isnt the best carry and he needs a sizable investment to have his sig be lvl30

cyan solar
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nah not yet, i just wanna pass this stage and call it a day

split peak
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I would try using rowan and tasi in ur team rather than talene and nara

cyan solar
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whole team is too squishy for that

split peak
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Well maybe u need to wait instead of buring urself out relying on rng to beat a stage

pale kettle
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@cyan solar

Talene
Daimon
Nara
Lyca/Rowan/Arden
Lyca/Rowan/Arden

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Tasi is also good in the flex slot

split peak
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@cyan solar give his comp a try but if it fails dont get frustrated and take a break this game is meant to be gradual progression

cyan solar
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arden doesn't really do much since the guy can't even root thanks to ferael lol, also the short book girl just destroys

split peak
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Can u get a merc? I am willing to lend u something if ur dead set on beating the chapter

cyan solar
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i already used a merc for last chapter zaphtears

pale kettle
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I'd do

Talene
Daimon
Nara
Rowan
Tasi/Lyca

Swap Daimon position around

Nara for Shemira as she's the threat

Lyca for haste if needed

Rowan for energy and heals

If you need more stam then use 2 wilders not rowan

split peak
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@pale kettle he also has gwen i forget how good was she that early on?

cyan solar
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she doesn't help this early on + faction disadvantage
also, i found a team that relies on heavy rng lol, my tasi and lyca are wayy too squishy

pale kettle
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Soren suggestions?

errant merlin
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So I'm tryna get back in but since I've been gone so long I've forgotten stuff and ik stuff has changed so I wanna know like what I have rn whats good for a lineup? I remember a lot of this is also based on level so I'm assuming once x hero gets to a certain level that my line up will have to change?

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Also + Saurus I just pulled him

pallid horizon
silk cosmos
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I’d say Saurus

nova chasm
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nothing i have is able to kill athalia, orthos or wu kong

split peak
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Get nara and talene out of there they are too squishy to help u use izold and shem but also u need to build a carry hero asap

nova chasm
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who is a good carry hero?

split peak
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Daimon

nova chasm
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i have daimon only at elite+ and no fodder rn

low ravine
nova chasm
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would izold be better or shem as carry?

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dont have many other options

pale kettle
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Shem

covert hearth
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Should I be able to beat this? Stuck here for a couple of days...I could ascend a lightbearers to mythic at the moment but I was waiting for Rowan...

urban olive
tropic karma
final star
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@stuck trellis managed to beat that and got to here, instantly destroyed rowangasp

muted stream
brave oriole
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@muted stream ofc, you need Brutus to tank saveas first of all

muted stream
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Nah she lives but she cant lifesteal when brutus put on his shield

thin wind
warm swan
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Sub Rosa in for Tasi? She will follow Daimon, right? And maybe switch Daimon to pos 3 with Rosa pos 1 if needed just so Daimon can survive longer.

crisp marsh
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Hwelp! 🙏

undone trench
raw rune
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remove daimon for arden @undone trench

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also can you show your full list of heroes and also what other mercs you have

undone trench
warm swan
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Send the ss of the rest of the hero pool

undone trench
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The mercs I have are Lucius and Ezio

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It won't let me send the ss

raw rune
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ok so you still have room for a +30 saurus merc
then draw a line over it, sometimes it stops you from sending it because it thinks it's inappropriate

undone trench
raw rune
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at that point wu kong should be your carry @sleek delta ,have you read the pins in #classic-questions

undone trench
raw rune
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those both sent? i can see them

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replace safiya with golus, you ideally want all 5 levels fodders outside of the crystal at that point
apart from that your team looks fine, just try and get that saurus +30 merc from #mercenary @undone trench

violet pecan
vast meadow
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stuck

pale kettle
brave oriole
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@vast meadow not sure, but maybe
Athalia
Rowan
Lyca
Eironn call
Nara

vast meadow
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Thanks. My atalia is elite...... I'll try Eironn

brave oriole
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I think I've used
Athalia
Lyca
Eironn
Rowan
Nara or so

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@pale kettle should be easy , but i think that eironn need call, test with call or eye how's better
Saurus
Eironn
Lyca
Rowan
Safiya/tasi/ferael but I think tasi will banish Khasos which it's good

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And maybe even Saurus can be changed with Nemora or ferael

pale kettle
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👀

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How are you so good

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Tyvm

vast meadow
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@brave oriole Thanks. I think my level is not enough or lacks SI&FI. I tried the comp you mentioned. I'll wait for the daily gold rewards to level up to 292.

south haven
brave oriole
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@vast meadow my lvl it was higher, but there wasn't tree and inn back then, keep trying, the diff between fights its when nemora it's charming Brutus or safiya

thin wind
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Any tips? The boss is Angelo, the harp dude. Can't seems to find a working comp

brave oriole
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@thin wind you.mostly need a low mage, so silvina won't kill rowan. Try with Brutus daimon up, and down, put some lvl 1 mage, ideally something for faction buff, and lyca back

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Twins for example

thin wind
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it's better but still too much damage. I just need to lvl up a bit i guess

brave oriole
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Well, put rowan back of Brutus and daimon.middle maybe will charge faster the energy

covert parcel
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Someone has 32-56 lineup?

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Please ulmuspeepohype

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Thk

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Ezizh level ?@pale kettle

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I see

dry blaze
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Tasi
Wukong
Daimon/mirael/saveas
Hogan/brutus
Lyca

Maybe something like this.

covert parcel
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@pale kettle hmm the second team looks so Rng based

wide gust
covert parcel
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@pale kettle nah my Nara dies imediatly i'll try some more with ur comp :D

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But do Daimon needs 3/9 to Works ?

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Okep

covert parcel
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Yup that's why i called for some tips ahah

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Thanks btw

sly cobalt
fickle loom
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@sly cobalt eironn against athalia just looks like death. eironn against shemira if he lives shem opening, otherwise shem on grezh. safiya is fine but since you have a daimon idk why you wouldn't give that a try.

sly cobalt
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thanks, gonna try that

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lol, just passed it, thanks!

robust steeple
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Stuck on this for a day or 2, thoughts?

brave oriole
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Fawkes would help

warm swan
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@uncut stone Try Tasi, Bel, Lucius, Nem, Rowan. Try getting Nem to charm Ferael. Maybe sub in Lyca for more haste. And call on Lucius.

uncut stone
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Ok will try

weak island
zinc needle
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What should I do?

primal jasper
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@zinc needle Get Shemira to lvl 160

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And Lucius to 140, keep rest at 120. Should get u to 14+ stage

peak magnet
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@zinc needle stop making shemira tank saveas, obviously. Let eironn pull saveas. Or let brutus tank saveas.

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@weak island is silvina jumping on rosa?

urban olive
primal jasper
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@urban olive Probably just need some levels, try lucius instead of brutus?

peak magnet
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@primal jasper what ch are you at?

weak island
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Nvm, passed 24 after a retry, but I'm stuck on 25 now

primal jasper
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@peak magnet 14-11

peak magnet
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Honestly, stop telling everybody to just get a few levels.

urban olive
primal jasper
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Oh, my bad that'a just usually what gets me through a wall

peak magnet
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@urban olive check dm’s.

primal jasper
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@peak magnet in these lower chapters I feel that levels make a big difference, even if it's 1-2 levels on the tank or carry

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@weak island Try getting a faction boost 3-2 or 4-1

bleak bridge
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Is there any way to keep that useless eiron alive? He seems to die instantly

peak magnet
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@bleak bridge what stage are you on?

wide gust
livid grove
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i might need some help to build a main campaign team i've read some guids which tell me that i need 1dps 1tank and 3supps. Help would be appreciated :D dming me to describe more is also possible

robust steeple
warm swan
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@livid grove Get your free Wukong and he will be your carry till 100ish. Or alternatively, use that Lucretia. Some new players say she can carry too. There's really no fixed ratio regarding team comp as it all depends on their synergies. And lastly, I recommend to read the pins on #classic-questions before starting out.

haughty scaffold
wheat panther
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Too many tanks. Consider removing the tree and using cecelia in the back mid

livid grove
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@warm swan ill do that but, yesterday i asked if i should buy arthur or wukong from the lba. shop and some1 replied with arthur

wide gust
warm swan
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@livid grove Generally, you try to save for the dimensionals being released and/or will be released, and if you have extras even after that, then buy some Arthur shards.

wheat panther
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@livid grove if F2P then you should focus shemira as your 1st shop purchase till ascended. Key to long term progress

warm swan
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I wouldn't touch Shem. There's just better options now. If you have need further clarification on that, ask on #classic-questions and they will give you that

wheat panther
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@warm swan my shemira has hard carried me from chapter 16 when she turned mythic and i'm cruising currently at chap 24

livid grove
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i prob. wont be able to get ainz/albedo should i save for next dimensional?

wheat panther
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What i find works best is pre planning your lineups. You need a plan for consistent progress

livid grove
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well im pretty new to this and im still learning with great help :D

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also can i send a screenshot and ask in question room aswell?

warm swan
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Dude, I have a 5* Shem myself. And I'm saying there are better options now. I haven't used her since ch 18. Like I've said, ask on #classic-questions .

wheat panther
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@warm swan no offense but i'm gonna assume you spend on the game?

warm swan
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If I did, I wouldn't be stuck in ch 30. My highest ascended Celehypo is an A Wukong

wheat panther
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Thats interesting then. So what hero was your carry since 18?

warm swan
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Eironn comp.

wheat panther
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I'll pm you XD

warm swan
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Yeah would be better

wooden oyster
maiden coral
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Im stuck on 13-32. Any suggestions? My main team just cannot beat it

bleak bridge
wide gust
wheat panther
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@wide gust maybe swap nara and rowan positions. If thats not enough consider removing lyca and using talene with brutus behind her. Yes talene is "just" elite but her heal should allow daimon to steamroll

haughty scaffold
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@wheat panther That worked great, thank you!

wide gust
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ok i will run that for a few runs thanks! and yes im using talene all the time even when she is E 🙂

wheat panther
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No problem at all @haughty scaffold . Glad it worked

robust steeple
wide gust
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@wheat panther thank you so much man i got it!

bleak bridge
pale kettle
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@robust steeple swap rowan and daimon

wheat panther
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@wide gust glad it worked!!! The talene setup or the nara swap?

wide gust
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talene

wheat panther
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Beautiful!!!

wide gust
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indeed thank you very much sir 🙂

wheat panther
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@bleak bridge rowan in mid

robust steeple
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@pale kettle didnt work :/

bleak bridge
robust steeple
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Wait I @'d the wrong person sorry beer

wheat panther
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@robust steeple put rowan in back mid, eironn at top front. Remove arden and put saurus at back top and daimon at bottom right

robust steeple
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ok Ill try that, sorry for accidentally @'ing you lol

wheat panther
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@bleak bridge try this. Rowan mid, remove tasi and put her rosaline behind shemira and lucius behind talene

robust steeple
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still not working, maybe I just need to wait a couple days again 😭

wheat panther
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@robust steeple sometimes it takes 100 tries with the right lineup to pass

urban cobalt
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@robust steeple don't u have brutus?

robust steeple
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@urban cobalt I have a copy of him but hes not in my crystal

urban cobalt
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Put him in crystal and try Brutus, diamon, Arden, Lyca, Rowan from 1-5. Also maybe thoran can replace brutus.

bleak bridge
royal thorn
robust steeple
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@urban cobalt Thank you!

maiden coral
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any help with my question this morning for 13-32? got buried.

wheat panther
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@bleak bridge play around with shemira and rosaline positions. This is my main lineup but it always struggles against ferael. Best counters for ferael is always another ferael or a well placed eironn. Rangers work better against him than mages since he sucks their energy

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@maiden coral your lineup is interesting. Who does rosaline follow?

bleak bridge
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@wheat panther got it. I'll keep trying with that setup.

hard forge
outer pewter
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@hard forge do you have a rowan?

hard forge
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have yet to unlock him actually

outer pewter
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oh

hard forge
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ive had him wishlisted forever

maiden coral
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@wheat panther currently following Lucius, kind of goes back and forth between him and Skriath, whoever has the highest attack

outer pewter
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talene shemira lucius rosa belinda @hard forge

wheat panther
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@hard forge talene in back row is a waste. Consider removing thoran, pushing talene in his space and rosaline in mid

outer pewter
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drape, blade, chalice, eye, blade respectively

hard forge
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thanks, i will give those a try

outer pewter
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you can substitute belinda with other heroes if you are retrying

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also, you should hero choice summon rowan if it is unlock for you

hard forge
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is that from stargazer?

royal thorn
hard forge
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ah, thank you sir

split ivy
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Any suggestions? Is this a good spot for my power level? Usually Belinda's ult gets ogi down a good amount but nemora heals everyone before I can do anything

proud rivet
split ivy
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I don't have rosa

outer pewter
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rip

split ivy
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welp time to grind fodder

outer pewter
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for sure, quicky advice for you

dont make a hero legenday if dont have 4 copies of that hero, it is a waste of fodder

split ivy
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ik, I said I did the ascension wrong

warm swan
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@split ivy Try switching Fawkes and Bel's position. See if you can kill Nem first.

Dude he already admitted he made the wrong ascension

outer pewter
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you can try out lyca/ feraelin the place of fawkes,
also brutus in place of talene

try belinda front line, lucius on belinda's back

split ivy
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just tried it, very close but nem still gets off a heal.
Belinda gets slow arrowed, can't gain energy fast enough

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RNGed it again, so close!

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Yes got it! Thank you!

outer pewter
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nice!! gz

maiden coral
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@warm swan @outer pewter I'm still stuck on 13-32, any suggestions? (my screencaps are up earlier in the thread)

outer pewter
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send the pic again

warm swan
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@proud rivet I'm biased towards Mirael seeing as you have a Rosa there. Their combo ult is actually great.

proud rivet
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Yeah i've used her together with a bellinda mercenary and for guild hunt, and it was actually crazy

outer pewter
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@proud rivet you can try out wukong + tasi lyca arden as your main core

maiden coral
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looks like rosaline is following lucius when the battle starts, when he dies she moves to skriath

outer pewter
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lucius rosaline mirael rowan brutus @maiden coral

pale kettle
maiden coral
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@outer pewter thanks I'll try it out!

outer pewter
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np

stuck trellis
pale kettle
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@pale kettle No Gwyn comp? You're just like me. tiduslaugh
Also, what are the other 2 enemy teams?

stuck trellis
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@final star posted above warekheart

pale kettle
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@pale kettle idk. me just care the first one. I will find a way for the other two talenelaugh

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@pale kettle tbh, you could Izold this if he had his 3/9

wide gust
pale kettle
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@pale kettle 2/9 yet 🙄 but with 3/9 he will be still onehit

wide gust
outer pewter
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Saurus,brutus safiya, eironn nemora
twins rowan Iziold rosa eiziz
lyca tasi ferael daimon nara
@pale kettle

stuck trellis
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@wide gust try this maybe?

arden
daimon
rowan
brutus
rosa (silvina bait, could be any unit)

outer pewter
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three line ups, you have to tweak accordingly @pale kettle

maiden coral
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finally, thanks! it took some gear re-arrranging but that lineup worked

wide gust
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@stuck trellis ok i will run it for a few times thank you!

pale kettle
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@pale kettle what about instead of Rowan, you use Ezizh? Swap Tasi for Saurus?

outer pewter
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@maiden coral gz

pale kettle
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@outer pewter saf and Saurus get pulled and instand dead 🤣

outer pewter
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lmao

pale kettle
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@pale kettle that stinks. I'm trying to save Tasi and Ferael for the other 2 fights just in case. I was thinking of outlasting the first team since Brutus invincibility and Skreg's ult ignores cc

outer pewter
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rosa shemira
brutus rowan lyca @pale kettle

stuck trellis
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@forest canopy

lyca
tasi
eironn
rowan
saf

thats what i used, im sure u could swap out safiya for daimon though

pale kettle
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@pale kettle I think ill w8 for next merc 🤣 or for leveling my heros

stuck trellis
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wait u have M tasi, swap lyca and tasi so that tasi is backline @forest canopy

acoustic spindle
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So I’ve been trying to make a team for 10-20 but idk what to put

outer pewter
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brutus rowan lyca nara daimon @forest canopy

pale kettle
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@pale kettle what's the biggest problem for you for that first stage? If it's the Skreg, you can link Skreg and Lyca with Lorsan and speed kill him.

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@pale kettle try swapping Lucius and Rosa

outer pewter
forest canopy
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Normal hero for 29 chapter?

outer pewter
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rosa brutus
shemira lyca nara @pale kettle

final star
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@stuck trellis managed to crawl my way to 29 rowangasp

wide gust
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@stuck trellis so after a few runs its seems its all good and daimon gets a few ults off and about to finish and then always gets one shot by silvina

outer pewter
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swap daimon with brutus @wide gust

wide gust
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ok i will give it a go 👌

stuck trellis
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@final star congrats!

pale kettle
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@outer pewter thanks Ill try

chrome halo
stuck trellis
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@pale kettle tell us why it didnt work. what went wrong? without knowing that we cant help you

final star
outer pewter
stuck trellis
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@pale kettle hmm. try swapping nara out for arden then, see how that goes

@chrome halo use ainz as your carry. something like this could be worth a try as well

rosa (silvina bait)
belinda
rowan
brutus/anatandra
ainz

pale kettle
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@final star Taxi will be outclassed by Uber in the future. drunksi

chrome halo
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Ty for the recs lads will give both a few spins and see how it goin, just need to get em to ult

pale kettle
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@pale kettle did you try it multiple times?

stuck trellis
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this game is one that has lots of rng. comps wont work in just 5 tries, keep retrying for 5-10 minutes at least

wide gust
final star
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I spam until I can't spam anymore then I go find answer and spam more mezothgun

outer pewter
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@wide gust try call on daimon, chalice on rowan 🙂

wide gust
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daimon indeed have call on him and yet to get chalice not strong enough to finish it to get the artifact 😦 @outer pewter

chrome halo
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Hmm everyone just keeps getting wiped before ulting on both setups

outer pewter
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grace on everyone then, get the extra dodge bonus lmao call daimon

wide gust
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i only have 2 grace? man im making it hard on you sorry xD @outer pewter

chrome halo
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Grace not upgraded enough for everyone 😦

outer pewter
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my bad lol

split ivy
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I just beat this level, do you have fawkes?

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even if u don't, you should be able to RNG this as it depends who Arden vines and who the opposing arden vines

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then fawkes would trap kaz

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oh nvm he will die instantly

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welp I am not a pro, so good luck

brave oriole
#

@pale kettle try rosaline front of Lucius vs kaz, put call on Lucius, and do you have rowan?

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@pale kettle nah, put chalice, and call Lucius. But try
Lucius call
Rosa
Rowan
Shemira
Nara

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You will be okay if use nara

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Well, yeah a few times see how's going

pale kettle
brave oriole
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@pale kettle it's hard with eironn that early, arden can be cc ed with nara or arden for ex, replace tasi with arden? But ira kills you i guess

pale kettle
silk stump
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@pale kettle Who did you put up front when you put Eironn in the top back position?

pale kettle
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These are my heroes, my nara is e+ only, could that work?
@silk stump I tried with Lyca, Talene, Lucius and Rowan

silk stump
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Try swapping Eironn and Tasi positions, she might be able to survive if Eironn is pulling behind her. Also try swapping Lyca/Tasi positions with your current setup

pliant holly
brave oriole
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@pliant holly maybe
Eironn
Ferael
Lyca
Rowan
Safiya

pale kettle
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@silk stump that worked thanks!

sly cobalt
cyan solar
pliant holly
plain thorn
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I’m stuck on this level any set up advice? Also should I be upgrading Arden I don’t know if he should be on the team or not

silk stump
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@cyan solar Your Safiya is probably going to be a better carry than Daimon at your point, so just try his normal comp:
Safiya

Rowan
Eironn
Talene/Tasi
Lyca

silk stump
cyan solar
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whole team just dies, wayy too squishy

silk stump
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Also make sure you're using all the available codes if you haven't already, your roster looks rather thin for having 40+ her pulls available to you

eager igloo
#

eyy slepe again lmao myabe just time cause hero levels arent at their highest

cyan solar
silk stump
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Maybe just nix Eironn and try both Tasi and Talene? He might not work at E+ in that stage. Or just merc a hero, not a bad use when finishing a chapter

cyan solar
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i merc'd for last chapter areyouseirus

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i can't really use tasi because she ends up dying before she even ults

urban thicket
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Any ideas on getting past this one? Everyone dies so quickly

wheat panther
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@urban thicket use shemira in hogan position. She is quite a sturdy tank. Could even remove hogan completely and use grezhul as 2nd tank (with shemira still in frontline)

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Or remove hogan, put talene top right, shemira top left and rosaline following her

urban thicket
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@Beer_Bear putting in grezhul instead of Hogan helped a little. I'm going to try with rosaline now

cyan solar
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argh, isabella just completely ignored tasi's cc ult

urban thicket
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@wheat panther rosaline dies almost instantly to silvinia

wheat panther
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Of course she does. But it takes the heat off rowan and gets her targeting shemira.

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Positioning is just as important as lineup. Try the shemira on the right and rosaline behind her. Talene frontline with daimon behind her

urban thicket
wheat panther
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Good! @urban thicket

odd tundra
#

If I’m starting a new server for maulers only who should I go for on the wishlist?

pale kettle
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What team is good with my roster

violet igloo
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@stable peak avoid making so many legendary heroes that are stuck there. And get Shemira ascended ASAP so that you can put her lvl 240 and other heroes lvl 200

wheat panther
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@stable peak lucius shemira fawkes rowan rosaline

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And what @violet igloo said is key

stable peak
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Yeah I did all that years ago sadly

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I dont do it anymore

violet igloo
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@pale kettle put Daimon maximum level possible (around lvl 120) and other heroes lvl 80. You can reset Hogan and Saveas, or not reset them and use them as food later. Your team can be :

Nara
Daimon
Lyca
Wukong
Nemora

should be solid team.

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@stable peak no problem 🙂 we all makes little mistakes !

stable peak
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Trying to get another copy of shemira

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Should I use rowan instead of nemora?

wheat panther
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I posted a lineup for you @stable peak

cloud matrix
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what team comp would be best in my case

primal jasper
wheat panther
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Ascend lucius to elite+ @cloud matrix . Lucius, lucretia, rosaline, rowan and maybe mirael?

cloud matrix
teal tree
primal jasper
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The 1st 5 u have there buddy :p

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But dont L if u cant L+

teal tree
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ok thanks for the help

wheat panther
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@primal jasper shemira, lucius, saveas, rowan, rosaline

primal jasper
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Luci just gets destroyed by the GB, I tried that comp u said but doesnt work :/

frank bloom
wheat panther
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@primal jasper place them in that order. Lucius dying isnt a problem you just need shemira to ult twice. Place them in the same order

primal jasper
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Ive had shem ult 5x and still, the GB keeps shielding istelf

wheat panther
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GB??? you mean grehzul?

primal jasper
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Yeah

wheat panther
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Then try tasi instead of saveas

primal jasper
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Good point, leme check

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Idk how but thats even worse xd

wheat panther
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I remember that stage. Was a pain!!! The backline gets nuked early. Swap the back and front line. Put shemira and lucius in the back line with rowan in the middle. Place rosaline in front of shemira and tasi/saveas in front of lucius

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The mages in the back targets the back line of the corresponding positions (if my memory serves me well)

primal jasper
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I'll try that, sav can hold and tasi can shield if necesairy

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@wheat panther Ty Ty

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Oh ffs next one is even harder

wheat panther
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@primal jasper take out rosa and use tasi. May take a few tries but it will work

primal jasper
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It worked, needed luck to have a shemira, rosa, shemira ult back to back

teal tree
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@primal jasper I got khasos and estrilda would that change my starting 5 or not?

primal jasper
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Used strilda to soak a bit more than sav, and the % helped luci and rowan survive to pop an ult

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@teal tree ur still early, just focus on getting 1 L+ foddet hero of the 4 factions.

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Use Mira and arden L+ with lucius, lyca and tasi would be optimal

teal tree
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@primal jasper okie dokie

primal jasper
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If u can get rowan hes a beast support

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And u probably got that hypogean from the box of last event. Save all the boxes u can until late game

teal tree
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@primal jasper ok thanks for the help

wheat panther
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@primal jasper that is literally my general lineup till where i'm at in chapter 24. Keep pushing shemira for now and prepare for the next stage bit by bit. Once you get a shemira double ult active your win is guaranteed till like chapter 22

primal jasper
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I love the shemrosira ults

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Boom boom watch em all cripple, and her special item that increases dmg when theres less heroes on the battlefield mmmm

restive pike
#

I could use some help figuring out a team to build, im not hardstuck on anything rn i just need help with which heroes to focus on.

Information
Tower: Floor 120
Campaign: 10-11
Artifacts: Dura's Grace, Dura's Eye, Dura's Call

And i have the heroes i need to get rowan to Legendary

primal jasper
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1 mistake I see is u upgrade to L withiut haveing fodder to L+

primal jasper
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Just chill out and get 4 fodder heroes to L+ and rest on the resonating crystal. Mirael, arden, sav, silvina to L+ and u can use them later as fodder to ascend ur heroes

restive pike
primal jasper
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Looks crispy @wheat panther

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Yeah @restive pike now ur stuck wil and L ainz until ???? Months maybe ??

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Shemira L is fine since u can buy from the store

restive pike
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I can always stick ainz to someone else lol

primal jasper
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U have some pretty nice heroes already al E+ i see Eiron also E

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U should NEVER fodder any heroe that is ascended. Except Raine

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If u go to portraits u will see all Legendary heroesz they are safe to fodder, plz read a guide :p

wheat panther
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Raine is a beast now lolol

primal jasper
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Rlly? She's safe to fodder tier or did I miss something Q.Q

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I loved using raine + Belinda

summer cedar
primal jasper
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Guess I read and out to date guide my friends

wheat panther
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I use raine especially in vault of time. Really good as an assassin support. I love her but dont have the resources to push her yet

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Raine was buffed a couple patches ago i think

primal jasper
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Damm I used and E+ raine as fodder

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Not the end of the world but yeh

wheat panther
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In the wrong comp every hero sucks generally. In the right comp its amazing! Like i have my uber expedition comp of eironn top left, lorsan bottom left and kelthur bottom right. Insta kill of 2 heroes with lorsan link

granite kraken
grim bolt
scarlet seal
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@grim bolt pre lvl 160 mirael is best carry atm, get her to L+ asap, use shemira after 161 or when u get her to M, also ditch lucretia and use arden/lyca/tasi/fawkes/athalia/nara in that spot, whichever u need to counter enemy team

twin oracle
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Send help please

grim bolt
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@scarlet seal Thanks for the tips, don't have a mirael yet but will toss her in once I have one, and thanks for the tips on the others. Have an arden, lyca and tasi I can toss in my crystal in a few hours

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Of those three which two would you prioritize? I only have two spots opening up in a couple of hours, so will have to wait on the third for tomorrow

scarlet seal
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@grim bolt lyca and tasi for now, u can add Arden later, he is valuable because of his rooting skill, but early lvl when he roots only 1 opponent it doesnt have much impact

grim bolt
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Thanks for the help, just started playing the game 3 days ago so still learning a lot 🙂

scarlet seal
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@grim bolt np, theres a lot to this game indeed, @twin oracle you have several options, u can reset shemira to 160 and lvl daimon instead to 180, or u can ditch daimon and use rosaline to follow shemira, or other way around. Or try lyca, haste buff might do it for you. But you should focus on daimon, since shemira falls off lategame. Dont invest into her SI anymore and get daimon to +20.

subtle inlet
stuck trellis
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@subtle inlet thoran doesn't need 30 for this fight

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and for r3 u dont need arthur, just experiment and find something that works. u could run anything really and make it work since fight 3 is such a joke, ainz would probably work great there as well

subtle inlet
#

I just retried 40 times and got it damin and talane really helped with the first fight

stuck trellis
#

congrats on 32 warekheart

subtle inlet
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Time to be hard stuck (:

grim bolt
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I look forward to being at that point in three years kek

twin oracle
#

i have tried lyca and rosa @scarlet seal

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also i have loads of shemira copies so was planning to ascend her , you saying i shouldnt ?

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really wanna clear this stage

subtle inlet
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@twin oracle ascended her if you want she is good for tr but just keep retrying a million times it's not a huge level dif

scarlet seal
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@twin oracle you should definitely finish her, meaning ascend, but dont invest into her signature item anymore

twin oracle
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ok

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its at 17 now though shouldnt get it to 20 ?

glacial plover
twin oracle
scarlet seal
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yea I suggest u stop there and just switch over to daimon carry and try to finish him asap

scarlet seal
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basically u want to merc a busted ferael or eironn for it

glacial plover
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Okok i c

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ye ive had some really bad rng with the core god-comp heroes tbh

scarlet seal
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u can type in the search 29-60 and scroll through different screenshots

glacial plover
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guess i just gotta wait for merc reset

scarlet seal
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yeah or u can try around with lyca, tasi, daimon, rowan, athalia/nara

glacial plover
#

that ones been my go-to with the last half of ch29 but someone always gets oneshot by the athalia. tried putting a brutus on her dive spot to cheese the stall for rowan/daimon/tasi ultis but it didnt work

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safiya still doing her thing lmao

scarlet seal
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yea its decent tactics, best to counter athalia are rowan or talene

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or lyca for example

glacial plover
#

Any artifact recommendations for this? I’m pretty clueless when it comes to artifact prio

stuck trellis
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daimon tasi call lyca grace rowan chalice athalia eye

vernal berry
stuck trellis
#

cheese 1 and eironn 3? if thats the case then your r3 seems very overkill elethathink @vernal berry

glacial plover
#

ty fellas, think i can get it now with enough retries

vernal berry
#

Cheese 3 eironn 1

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Should i do cheese 2 and stall 3

stuck trellis
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press on the formation switcher and show me ur comps and the enemy comps

vernal berry
stuck trellis
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yeah cheese 2 and then run saurus carry (something like saurus fera nara brutus flex)

vernal berry
#

Ok

vernal berry
nimble fossil
brave oriole
#

@nimble fossil
Lyca
Rowan
Belinda
Brutus
Fawkes

hard forge
nimble fossil
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@brave oriole Thank you ^^

wooden oyster
modest arrow
slender scroll
undone trench
summer cedar
plain thorn
#

I’m stuck on this level any set up advice? Also should I be upgrading Arden I don’t know if he should be on the team or not

summer cedar
# plain thorn

upgrade only 5 heroes. reset the others, throw in crystal

plain thorn
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Which 5?

undone trench
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Hogan dies immediately, the rest of the team follow suit.

plain thorn
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What crystal?

summer cedar
#

read da pinz in #classic-questions for which 5 to use. lots of good advice there. resonating crystal

rare dawn
pale kettle
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@rare dawn Brutus, Lucius, Ainz, Lyca and Nemora. You can also make a L+ Arden and swap between Nemora and him in case you need either more healing or more cc.

rare dawn
pale kettle
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@rare dawn yeah, that works. Sometimes you'll have to rearrange your heroes. For instance, Lucius might need to be backline if he's too squishy to tank hits (usually he has no problem if he's fully geared up and with strong support, but that applies to early and mid game). Gear up Ainz as much as you can and lvl him up at least 20+ lvls above everyone else as carries have to be overleveled to be effective.

rare dawn
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will do, thanks

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hes ultimate charge takes so much sometimes he dies before he use it tho 😄

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nvm that its way better then my old formation thanks alot @pale kettle

pale kettle
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@rare dawn once you have him Mythic, you can lvl up is signature item. It removes chanting phase and he just ults immediately. So there's something to look forward to

rare dawn
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😮

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awesome! can t wait 😄

proper orchid
#

Everyone but saurus dies about half way in

undone trench
pale kettle
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@proper orchid you really need Ezizh. He can stop her ult and boost your survivability. Don't worry about the setup as nothing will change the outcome until you get at least one copy of Ezizh

proper orchid
#

Would it be worth using my elite plus copy of Saurus so that I can rent him

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I’ve still got three attempts, and I’m not really upset with where I placed so it’s worth a shot

pale kettle
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@undone trench I wouldn't use Rosaline with Saveas. It wouldn't make sense as him double ulting is redundant. Just ascend your fodder heroes to L+ and maybe replace Rosa with Lyca for haste and def break

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@proper orchid yeah, you can do that. There's a certain animation where Shemira summons an ice ball to put up her shield, that's the opportunity to ult any unit to stop her.

proper orchid
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Ok thanks

undone trench
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@pale kettle I am using Lyca, and I can't ascend any fodder to L+ that's the whole reason they aren't L+. I was using Saveas, Rigby, Rowan, Silas, Lyca. Tried swapping in Tisa for sleep, or Hogan for Rigby. I always die to Vedan, my tank can't sustain.

pale kettle
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@undone trench what about Arden? The CC king

undone trench
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@pale kettle How would you like me to fill him into a comp because I've tried him as well and he gets flattened. I genuinely don't see the appeal in Arden.

pale kettle
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@undone trench usually, he's amazing at lvl 141+ bc he gets to cc 3 enemies constantly. At this point, it's probably best to just summon more and see if you can get Saveas to legend+.

inland bison
#

So didn’t take as long as I thought to get the exp, but I’m still just not making this level. I can 40% of the time get two ults off but only barely.

brave oriole
#

@inland bison replace Pippa with rowan and see how's going

inland bison
grim bolt
#

Tried switching around a bunch but nothing so far, just recommendations on what the best setup could be and then I can run it through a bunch and hope for some good rng

brave oriole
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@grim bolt Rosa front of Lucius, dura's call on Lucius if you have it. Now , lyca or maybe lucretia for 30%def

grim bolt
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Don't have it yet sadly, just dura's grace so far

hard forge
#

Having trouble here

grim bolt
brave oriole
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@grim bolt yeah

grim bolt
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Thanks, time to try and grind

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All comes down to shemira in the end anyways

brave oriole
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Well, try more, like, Lyca front of Lucius, Rosa back of shem and so on

grim bolt
#

Lyca front gets nuked so fast, will keep switching around but have a feeling I might just need to level a bit more before I can get past this one

crude hinge
#

anyone have lineup for mauler tower floor 240?

cunning sierra
#

Just got my Silas to ascended are there any meta comps he fits really well in?

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I have full T2 gear for him and +20

empty jungle
spring junco
#

can you screenshot the stage?

tropic karma
#

help

mystic rain
faint current
untold rivet
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I will try it, thanks, Nilas

faint current
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Np let me know how it goes

untold rivet
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Lucius and Tasi on the front lines?

faint current
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Yeah if you remove the heroes there are numbers on the floor so it’s 1/2/3/4/5

untold rivet
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That I am aware of, but everyone has a different order they post them in

faint current
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Those people are wrong

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Lyca +20 is a decent source of dps, and ferael +20 is also pretty big. You’re missing both so that might not work as well.

untold rivet
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Not even close

faint current
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Yeah :/ sorry.

untold rivet
#

What do you mean +20?

faint current
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Signature item

untold rivet
#

And some of them I haven't even activated them of the ones who can use them

faint current
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Yeah I’d definitely think about ferael +20 and Lyca +20

untold rivet
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I will check on them now

spring junco
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you should definitely at least activate SIs to +0. lyca ferael gwyn and safi all have useful +20s

untold rivet
#

Far is +16, and Lyca is +15

slender scroll
faint current
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This is what I use for regular lab with similar relics, then swap Rowan out for saurus +30 for hard mode wrizz. I use relics exactly like the ones you showed in your pic, and hard mode lab is a piece of cake. (Doesn’t work for dismal lab)

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It NEEDS Lyca +20 and ferael +20

untold rivet
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This isn't lab though, this is the peaks of time with the raising platforms

spring junco
faint current
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I use the same team for PoT, that’s the last boss of that PoT? If so I used Saurus

untold rivet
#

saurus?

faint current
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If that Orthros is gonna live a while and you’re on the last fight, I’d put a +30 saurus on him and you wouldn’t need/want Lucius

untold rivet
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I don't know who Saurus is

faint current
#

This guy. I’d merc one with a +30 signature item. If you don’t have your own I’d merc one every week.

untold rivet
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Also now all my hero's that are able to have items, are 10 for some and 20 for the ones that I had the things to do 20

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I don't think I have him higher then E

tropic karma
faint current
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You can ask a friend/guildie to “borrow” theirs (they still get to use him) using mercenary system.

slender scroll
#

Thanks that helped out so much

untold rivet
#

None of my guild members have him

arctic kelp
untold rivet
#

Any other suggestions I can use?

faint current
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Unfortunately not. I’d get working on saurus then. He’s arguably the third-most important +30 signature item in the game.

untold rivet
#

Wait, of the ones you suggested, what artifacts?

faint current
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Lyca/Ferael have Eye, Rowan/tasi have call, Lucius has grace

untold rivet
#

Ok, going to attempt again and if not Well, maybe I will use my faction scrolls

faint current
#

But for that fight, if it’s the last fight of the new PoT, if I remember correctly I NEEDED saurus that fight was brutal

stuck trellis
#

@arctic kelp

lyca
tasi
eironn
rowan
lorsan|

wait this is different misty

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no its not. nevermind baaaaa

faint current
#

If you have an empty friend slot you can ask in #mercenary for a +30 saurus.....but if you look in that channel you’ll see he’s a pretty popular request. You never know though

spring junco
arctic kelp
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@stuck trellis eironn dies too quickly

stuck trellis
#

keep rnging it drunksi
or use other rec, this one is pretty rng'

arctic kelp
spring junco
#

call on eironn could get his ult off faster, or repositioning maybe?

arctic kelp
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I have call on eironn. Oh sorry I meant enemy eironn dies too quickly

final star
#

@stuck trellis can I have 29-5 pls rowangasp

delicate quiver
stuck trellis
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@final star

slender ferry
#

What’s a good lineup for izold I’m ch 31 ?

empty jungle
bleak wharf
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I myseld used this line up> lucius mirael numisu rosaline arden

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Id recommend mirael hogan rosa numisu nemora

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@empty jungle it should work pretty fine, u should try multiple times

empty jungle
#

@bleak wharf rn im using mirael wukong hogan Rosa and twins

bleak wharf
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@empty jungle if it seems to work try going in multiple times, else chqnge the positions

warm cobalt
#

Hi, is this the channel to ask in if I'm stuck at a stage?

warm cobalt
#

well I'm very noob (: stuck here in the middle of stage 7, wondering what to do next

low ravine
#

Get Wu Kong carry

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You have a lot of damage dealers on the crystal but you're gonna want more support heroes in there. You really only need 1 damage dealer on your team, your carry

warm cobalt
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I thought zaph / shemira will do this for the time being 🙄

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so you say, forget about both of them, get wu kong from the event (even not ascended) and he'll do?

low ravine
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Might be a little late now you are almost at lvl 100 with your heroes. You should still get him from the event, it's literally a free hero

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As the pins say, best carry option is either Saveas or Mirael

warm cobalt
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and get only tanks and supports around 1 of them, no problem

low ravine
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One tank, 3 supports, yes

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Later on, you'll be able to use Shemira as carry

warm cobalt
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Thank you!

onyx elbow
#

I haven't been able to get close in this fight, the assassin seems to just demolish my mage dps wayy too fast

bleak bridge
final star
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@stuck trellis my team dies almost instantly, should get full T2 and level right kazThonk

warm swan
#

@weak island If not using mercs, try: Bel, Brutus, Rosa, Arden, Lucius.
If otherwise, Rowan instead of Brutus

warm swan
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Reset Rosa's level and pour it on Shem. Put Rosa on crystal instead. Also don't put Shem in front of Ogi because she will be locked both by him and Arden

lament birch
#

@timber flower i'd try:
Lucretia
---Hogan
Arden
---Shem
Baden

btw. you could use your crystal slots otherwise, better heroes whise ;)

timber flower
lament birch
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@timber flower how many slots do you habe available atm? (after clearing all)

timber flower
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7

lament birch
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@chilly mortar i would try:
Ferael
---Lyca
Skriath
---Shem
Ainz

dk if its effective but seems good

timber flower
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that instead of the other one with lucretia hogan arden shem and baden?

chilly mortar
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I need talene

lament birch
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@timber flower then I'd say:
Shem/Hogan/Arden/Rosa/Belinda/ and you can choose like Lucretia/Baden(for boss)/isabella(good early comp)/tasi/safiya/monkey/ninja (forgot the name, for counter comps)/daimon (if he can do enough damage early on)

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@timber flower hella lot of options on your account in early stages

timber flower
#

I see, thanks

lament birch
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but for lvl cap - the 5 highest out and lvl them manually

chilly mortar
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il wait for merc since too much cc with dmg

warm swan
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Lyca, Rosa to buff Ainz. And the tankiest frontline you got to hold back the line while Ainz finishes chanting

pale kettle
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Should I change my lineup?

rose canyon
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Can some one help with that?

amber halo
#

Shemira Lucius saurus tasi nemora

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Or shemira Lucius Brutus tasi and ainz, usually u don't use 2 carries but u can try

rose canyon
#

in this order to posision as u told?

amber halo
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Lucius 1 shemira 2 nemora 3 to charm belinda 4 tasi saurus 5

rose canyon
#

my nemora don't want to play with me zaphtears

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she's too week i think dies untill charm

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hate this lvl cause everythink dies till ultimates :/

amber halo
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Just retry few times then she will charm for sure

hard forge
#

Can’t seem to get past this stage

wheat panther
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@hard forge remove brutus, put shemira in front and rosaline behind her

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@rose canyon remove skriath add rosaline. Or alternatively tasi

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Sorry @rose canyon no rosaline, then tasi

rose canyon
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Other's place ok?

wheat panther
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For now yes. If any trouble you can swap frontline positions

rose canyon
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ok will try

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okay tried 20 times but i passed that

undone trench
#

Also thinking of taking Rosaline and Tasi off Crystal. They don't seem to do great this early in the game.

bleak wharf
#

Almost everything gets pulled into the middle, and then there some wave stuff constantly stunning+heal

leaden turtle
steady laurel
unkempt field
charred ermine
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@unkempt field she doesn't get to teleport?

steady laurel
#

any of u 2 know what is the best 5 heros i can use form pic above? i can level the ones u say insted

unkempt field
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Straight up one shot. nvm I replaced lyca with talene and it worked for 22-46

charred ermine
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Nice

steady laurel
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ye i joined like 2 days ago aha

rose canyon
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i prefer lucius on front line

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and swap dura's on belinda and rosaline

half lake
thorny grove
#

What should be my main lineup?

queen path
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Only level 5 heroes

pale kettle
#

What should my lineup be?

wide gust
wheat panther
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Swap sides with daimon and brutus @wide gust

wide gust
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ok anything else? or it looks fine with just swapping? ant thanks btw 🙂

wheat panther
#

Given what you have only other potential help is maybe nara for arden. Going against ferael is always tricky

wide gust
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wait nvm u are a genius first try got it lol thank you so much!

wheat panther
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Hahaha no problem. Its mainly just to tank out ferael energy drain. Brutus can keep him at bay for a bit so daimon can build

wide gust
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ohhh so thats why daimon didnt go off for me most of the time

wheat panther
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Yup. Ferael signature item summons a ghost that steals energy anytime he crits. Anyone he targets tends to be unable to ult

wide gust
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ohhh so thats why he is considered so good

wheat panther
#

Insane damage with CC yup!!! I always hate fighting against him

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Cause he also has a skill that haunts i think 2 or 3 random targets making them unable to do anything for like 3 seconds

wide gust
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ive been told as soon as i can get him +20 lvl 221 he is a beast among beats while it will take me a long time to be there i do have 4 copies of him however i never used him

wheat panther
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Thats why i'm building mine. I was very unlucky with summons so using my guaranteed summons for him

wide gust
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ohhh well i would have build mine but i think he is useless where i am lvl wise

rigid birch
wheat panther
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Mine isnt ready yet. But i pre plan my builds. So i know i'll need him soon so i'm working on him for when i need him. For now my shemira is enough

wide gust
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@rigid birch im at 18-40 now almost finishing it and going to chap 19 and lvl wise ill show just a sec

wheat panther
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Even my diamonds i'm saving for my guaranteed summons and abyssal expedition to go honourable

rigid birch
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you have daimon carry, ferael is a good core in daimon comps you def. need to build him

wide gust
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atm i have 4 copies of ferael

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indeed daimon is my carry got lucky enough to A him but ik i should build him but i can also build nara wich i tend to use quite a bit also 4 copies and maybe thoran but idk about that not sure who i should build now that i have daimon A

wheat panther
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DEFINITELY FERAEL!!!

rigid birch
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you can work on rowan si before daimon, 10 si is a good point for daimon. once you get rowan to 30 get daimon to 20 and then go on with the other signatures

wheat panther
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Thats my weakness. Knowing which sig items to push and in what order

wide gust
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well just got rowan to M and he is +5 but i stared to work on daimon long
before and he is at +17 so i might finish him first and then contiue to rowan

pale kettle
#

Can I get some help for my line up?

rigid birch
wide gust
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was thinking the same hopefully when i get to chap 19 i will have gold emblems drop since i have no way of getting them

wheat panther
#

Silver what you have is interesting. I'd probably go izold, tasi, lyca, rowan, solise

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@rigid birch what should be my SI priority?

rigid birch
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Rowan >> Eironn > Saurus(save for him) > Ferael
those are 30 si

wide gust
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ok i think imma need you help again guys with this last stage of this chap

pale kettle
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Thank you bear, but how is it interesting?

rigid birch
wide gust
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ok thanks ill run it for a few min to see if rng is on my side

pale kettle
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Also I just got Rowan to gold too

wheat panther
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I have shemira at 25 for some time but stopped pushing her as i know she falls off later on

rigid birch
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hey, atleast you got the bonus stat at 25 si

wheat panther
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Silver its interesting because at your stage its hard to identify a 2nd front liner

queen saffron
#

Hey .. I'm new in the game and under lvl 100

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I need a good tank.. which maybe useful later also... Any suggestions?😅 And I'm f2p so plz help me how to get it too

wheat panther
stuck trellis
wheat panther
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Will begin working on rowan SI. He is at +20 for SI

wide gust
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ok i need a new formation daimon gets bursted before he can even ult once without exception @rigid birch

rigid birch
wheat panther
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@wide gust swap brutus and daimon as well. Lyca will kill daimon too fast

wide gust
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wait so how would the team look daimon brutus arden rowan and thoran?

wheat panther
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You have 2 options @wide gust . The 1st option is brutus, thoran, nara, rowan, daimon. The 2nd option is daimon, brutus, rowan, nara, lyca

pale kettle
wide gust
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ok thanks! i will try both for a few min each and hopefully i will be in chap 19! but thank you anyway for all the help so far! @wheat panther @rigid birch

wide gust
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thanks 🙂

summer cedar
pale kettle
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@summer cedar tried three times with no luck. Killed within 10 seconds.

frank bloom
rigid birch
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send all of your heroes for reference @frank bloom

frank bloom
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Huh

rigid birch
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click on heroes tab and send a screenshot of that page

frank bloom
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@rigid birch here are my heros

warm swan
#

I don't think you have to ascend anyone. You're not capped yet anyway. You can overlevel Bel instead

rigid birch
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^^^

frank bloom
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I can't lvl anyone up yet tho

warm swan
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Bel can go up to 160. She's your carry, right?

hard forge
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i think he needs everyone on the crystal to be 140 first

frank bloom
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Well I want wukong to be 140 but dat will take a while

warm swan
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And reset that Lucretia. And Baden. You only need to level 5 heroes. You can get back the resources you spent on them that way

frank bloom
#

Y

hard forge
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its taking up hero exp and stuff that you could be using on other heroes if you just put lucretia on the crystal

frank bloom
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I got bel to 160

warm swan
#

Gz. Now stop making L heroes if you cannot take them to L+.

frank bloom
#

Ik that now I wish I knew that before tho

frank bloom
raw rune
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no celepogeans are the exception since they don't require fodder

frank bloom
#

Ok that's good to know

raw rune
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but you shouldn't buy him yet, priority is dimensionals > Arthur > wu kong

frank bloom
#

I already have wukong but I dont have arthur

wheat panther
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@random bay i'd take out thoran, put shemira front line and put in rosaline behind her

raw rune
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lol I'm on the same one @random bay

random bay
#

was so easy before this one. once I cleared chapter 13 I went all the way until I hit this stage now I'm stuck again

narrow socket
#

Hi guys, what are the 3 teams that u think that is better for pvp with that characters?

spring junco
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id go with one eironn-safiya, one gwyneth comp, then the last one is a tossup

narrow socket
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tossup?

spring junco
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i mean to say im not too sure who exactly to put for that one

narrow socket
#

ah okey

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gwyneth comp what +30 needs?

spring junco
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you dont strictly need gwyn +30 though its useful. +20 is good and +25 is even better. arthur +30 is also nice.

narrow socket
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and the others of the team no one need +30?

spring junco
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not really. i think your SIs are fine other than that i'd get gwyn to +20

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2nd and 3rd comps look okay. i would rework the first one into a gwyn comp

wheat panther
#

What exactly is gwyn comp?

fickle loom
stoic cipher
hard forge
maiden marsh
vagrant quail
hollow thicket
#

@vagrant quail did u do all your tower levels that u can if not try switching the position of your team, also focus more on one hero make them your carry

vagrant quail
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@hollow thicket yes I'm at lvl 99 in the tower and stuck there with the 2 lion guys

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So far that positioning gets me to 1 left most of the time. I only have elite+ stuff sadly and I dont thing I have a carry person I think?

weak island
unkempt field
rose canyon
#

try ezio for brutus

viscid oak
pale kettle
#

swap brutus und lucius und take lyca for brutus @unkempt field

unkempt field
primal jasper
#

Nvm got em after 20 tries

#

Mira and grez just poop on me

summer cedar
# primal jasper

silvina doesnt do much in my experience. try tasi, and if that fails, who does she banish? also does rosa or luci ult?

primal jasper
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No rosa doesnt ult

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Luci neither, so fech

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Tasi doesnr even have time to banish kek

summer cedar
#

if luci doesnt live long enough to ult brutus performs better. try brutus shem lyca rowan arden maybe

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da fuq? luci dies so fast that tasi gets blasted b4 banish? that's wild honestly
also rosa failing to ult (unless rng) means swap for another support usually, esp since u dont have her SI yet

primal jasper
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My Brutus is E.. never pulled one

summer cedar
#

E brutus performs exactly the same role as M+ brutus honestly, so long as he has the invuln skill unlocked

primal jasper
#

Gonna have to wait 24h then bec my crystal is full

summer cedar
#

it's always nice to have one in ur crystal bc he's a guaranteed 8ish seconds of tanking in campaign, which sometimes ur higher ascended tanks dont even last that long. excellent for eating damage and keeping up supports for a few more seconds. thing is, he's ALWAYS 8ish seconds of tanking- his value is no more, no less than that.

primal jasper
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Which artifact is best on him?

summer cedar
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if he was a high ascension I'd say blade. since he's not, as his defensive stats kinda suck, I'm actually not sure. chalice/drape/grace maybe? might be better asking someone else, but his invuln is key anyway and no artifact rly helps w that

primal jasper
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Bro he died in 3 seconds

summer cedar
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I said arden over tasi didn't I? might have goofed my b. but again, who does she banish?

primal jasper
#

Wont make much of a difference, she doesnr banish anyone xd

summer cedar
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again, that makes no sense. how does a backline tasi who's not getting hit not banish?
ah nvm, place tasi at 5. estrilda is the issue methinks

primal jasper
#

Ok leme check

rose canyon
#

on this stage tasi dies form estrida

primal jasper
#

Fk this stage lol

final star
#

How close were you to beating it? You could spam it for a few more times if you're close