#lineup-help
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@pale kettle this is the one btw i got stuck at 17-7 there but im just 2 underlvl so i didnt want to try and ask help as its pretty much useless for now
swap talene with ur Brutus @wide gust
ok ill run it a few times
plaque would u be willing to help me too?
And put arden down
but the dmg is mostly done by khasos even so should i do it?
Bcs arden insta die there
ohhh didnt think about that true
Would I know something I would...
Lyca/Ferael
Thoran or Talene
Rowan
Lucius
Daimon
@robust steeple u could try that but idk
hell yeah got it thanks @pale kettle @brave oriole
ur welcome
@pale kettle u made me progress so much today thanks again m8
nice if u got one - i DOnt have one -^^
^^ well ur twice my chapter im at the begging kinda i know that as soon as i pass chap 20 and so forward i will get stuck for a long times between chapters unlike now
u dont u just should learn and understand heros
that what ive been doing for the past 2 weeks learning alot from this channel and questions thats why i was able to get to where im at even tho my heros lvl are so low
well but still the main target is - u have fun 🙂
i sure am i also enjoy talking about this stuff in those channels 😋
still stuck on this stage (yes i know my hero box is shit please just help me)
Fawkes
Lyca
Eiron
Brutus
Nara
not work? tell me the problem
@tough whale
eironn and fawkes immediately die
Lyca
Saurus
Fawkes
Brutus
Tasi
@tough whale
fawkes dies, then saurus
Lyca
Saurus
rowan
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Saurus
Rowan
Fawkes
Tasi
@tough whale
@tough whale I like eironn middle, nemora to charm safiya and I think tasi banish numitsu?
nothing worked
Lyca
Eironn
Ferael
Rowan
Tasi
@tough whale
Ferael needs to dodge the initial few athalia hits or it won’t work
That’s what I used to clear at 297, only difference was my eiron was so 30, but that shouldn’t be too large of a factor
Just keep mashing the retry button it should work
Who should I merc for this stage? I was thinking of fighting fire with fire and using Shemira
U can merc what ever u want until he's 5* and a main DD
Any ideas?
Any ideas for this one?
Belinda
Arthur
Rowan
Rosa
Fawkes
Belinda
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
@proud edge if Brutus kill u to fast in his Ult - give fawkes call
Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Belinda
@pseudo hill random but maybe
@pale kettle DD?
No luck with any of the above, lyca melts fawkes too fast
what is ur artefact on lucius @proud edge
Lucius is better to use than Arthur, for now
Chalice on lucius
Use always call or eye sometimes
"chalice" what's thaat? ^^ call or Vitality I play mostly on luciu
Call it was great always for me, insta shield
Vitality is chalice
@pale kettle I swapped fawkes for Rosa and it worked. Thanks
But, you need to cc safiya or charm
ur welcome @pseudo hill
Barely got there, lyca was the issue
@pale kettle well 31/34 a few accounts
Maybe Idea without Gwyn comb @brave oriole
Mhm, Gwyneth team should work on this
that gwyn work I know.. xD I wanna do without gwyn - Eiron work too - but my mate was 12 level ahead of me
I will check what I've used
Can't see, sorry. I had all saved but meh, the phone Is dead
np
Daimon maybe, with Brutus rowan or so
daimon is L+ need more fodder for him
Any ideas here?
@pale kettle a few good setups that I could. See
Rosa
Lyca/lucius
Rowan
Arthur
Belinda
@proud edge
thanks Ill test @brave oriole
but its 12 level ahead too 😄
Yeah, but deppends of your furnitures etc
@pale kettle no dice, Rosa dies too quick
@proud edge ofc, silvina attack too
she have gear? normal she cant die fast. uwu.
give her better gear as Rowan. so Silvana jump un rowan athalia on rosa
Got there, needed eng. Tasi holding belinda back was tough to break through ofc
Any ideas here?
@pseudo hill
Maybe
Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Rosa
well got it now with Gewyn comb @brave oriole
@brave oriole rowan just isn’t getting ult
@pseudo hill use dura's call?
@brave oriole yeah he has call
Then i dunno, put him back of shem, and Rosa middle
Can someone answer my question about if rarity truly matters ?
That beat it. Ty so much
@pseudo hill np👍
Any tips? I can't seems to find a como that works
Anybody willing to help? Coldsteel the Zo-- I mean Silvina keeps shanking my team.
@thin wind maybe use fawkes to remove shemira
My team, I got 6 open slots on my crystal.
@bright badge maybe reset Hogan to 120 and put the exp on saveas. As about silvina, keep rowan middle for support, and add a second mage to save rowan
Would Nemora work? What about Lucius replacing Hogan?
Mirael maybe, so you will have 4 lb and some buffs
Saveas
Wu
Rowan
Hogan
Fawkes
@bright badge
Actually nix that last thought.
@bright badge so like
Hogan
Mirael
Rowan
Saveas
Fawkes
Somebody help me plz, i'm struggling
@pale kettle is lab? Get a rowan +30 merc somehow
@brave oriole
@pale kettle tasi should be good up front, but,maybe pull shemira and replace ferael with nemora, and put nemora down to charm Ferael
shemira no gear . nemora also^^
I mean
Eironn
Tasi
Safiya
Lyca
Nemora
But try nemora anyway, maybe she can charm. Ferael with lyca haste
nah nemora oneshot without gear
idk all swear on Izold SL30
Stuck on 13-22. Any strats or just level up
*sl 30 and 3/9 but he was never usefull
@pale kettle yeah, but he need dura's call
oh was thinking vitality 😄
kk
Just he need some time to go wild, like to ultimate once or twice, then he's immortal
@hollow timber if you have a safiya, try
Safiya
Talene
Rowan
Rosa
Daimon dura's call
The hypogean mages hit your Backline so safiya would help
i do have safiya but like 110 more for another resonating crystal spot
anyone got 31-59?
no stuck in 31-56 2 wave
wait u need 56? give me a sec
@stuck trellis what's 59?
thats everyone i got available pmuch, so in case another option besides safiya
@pale kettle here was what i used
Is there a channel to ask for help on pvp lineups or can you do it here?
@brave oriole
Oh, is Rosa following estrilda?
hendrik
I would try Brutus and daimon
i get hit by power req if I use brutus there
ur skritath 3/9 @stuck trellis ?
yeah
here's another team that works for r1
R1 I got need R2
but its a ton of investment into r1 that isnt needed
@stuck trellis well, thoran and daimon
the king 👑
Help please I just won the first round
ah true, gwyn and daimon seem pretty good for r2
@lusty shale eironn saf ezizh
@lusty shale
Safiya
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Ezizh
What position?
12345 rowan tasi safiya eironn ezizh
exactly like xperta put it
You can see from My text
u got that ********
Ok thanks guys I’ll try it
nice
Not bad 👍 one more
As far i remember, 60 2 needed +30 Arthur, but i could pass without
Or it was 3
might not even need it anymore
cause of multi nerfs
i will see when i get there tho 👀
Yeah, no idea how's the nerf, the teams seemed strongs still to me
Maybe they just lower hp, but the dmg it's still high
31-57 @stuck trellis
Pls I’m stuck
well missing daimon but thanks
What about it @stuck trellis u won
I did it! Thanks @stuck trellis @brave oriole
This is my normal lineup. Should I ascend thoran or Thorne?
@stuck trellis
Any advice?
@vapid iris u made some mistakes
@foggy crown I don't know how strong is your rowan but mainly shem rowan front, and nara vs arden, the rest you fix, maybe rosaline and fawkes
any ideas for me?
@tranquil walrus athalia instead of shem for faction bonus with Lucius and lyca in front, then shem, Rowan, athalia
any ideas without merc? i can show heros if needed
Stuck on the second to last fight for howling wastes
@tranquil walrus ideally would be
Lucius dura's call
Rosaline
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes
Doesn't matter a lot, if she die, she die, but rowan stay alive and Lucius shield
Mmmm, try lyca then instead of fakwes
Lucius dura's call
Lyca
Rowan
Shem
Rosa
rowan lives and luc shields but shem dies
Try a diff artifact, or put Rosa front of
ok thx!
what 3 comps should i use for challengers?
@woeful knoll
ezizh
rowan
mehira
talene
twins
tasi
shemira
lyca
brutus
fawkes
daimon
estrilda
nara
saurus
ferael/lorsan
ezizh team = slot 3
shemira team = slot 2
saurus team = slot 1
ok thanks
@wide gust mostly need fawkes for ferael and maybe one more mage mehira, so rowan stay alive
well as u know fawkes ive yet to own but ive tried to put mehira in but dont know who to replace
Nara maybe, and put rowan back of daimon
ok i will give it a few runs
ok mehira gets one shoted by the start she doesnt even live for 3 seconds and i just get bursted it seems @brave oriole
Well, i didn't expected to stay alive, she was there for 30%def and to cover rowan. Add Brutus Frontline
instead of talene? oh if so then she is good 🙂
Lucius makes this level hard lol, any help appreciated
@delicate timber Rosa follow Lucius? If so put there thoran and pull ezizh maybe
Rosaline follows ezizh, Lucius is just annoying because daimon can’t damage through his shield
Yeah, you may need a +30 thoran then
Any ideas here?
May I get some help in this stage all formations i try die like they are paper?
Is there any way for me to do this floor right now?
Y is Belinda and rowan in the front shouldn't they be in the back?@pale kettle
Did that because of the nara's
@stuck trellis can I have 28-40 pls
@final star from here on out, nara/athalia is basically required for every mehira stage u see. with the only exception being 28.58 (that i know of)
I see ty, glad I have both built 
I need line up help im chapter 10 stage 11
so that's been my lineup (which has been working ok), I'm just wondering if there's a more optimal one that I'm missing
Which state of the game are u at
ainz exchange is up so might wanna save
Welp
Hardstuck here. Any suggestions? (This lineup is doing amything no matter how i rotate them)
I just started the game which guy should I buy
Nemora is very appreciated
Can I ask why
I have no idea tbh I just put all the purple hero's that I have
Ss heroes :)
Ss?
Screenshot
Id suggest shemira, top right one. She is damage dealer.
don't buy anything. shemira falls off hard later, so you're gonna lose a lot of investment there
if at all possible you'd like to save for the Dimensionals. Ainz/Albedo are limited time characters that are quite good
Oh okay how do I get a dimensional hero
Currently Ainz/Albedo exchange or 240k lab coins for Arthur
Just wanna make a new line up but dunno what tbh
Tried to merc Shemira and she hasn't helped much... any suggestions? The problems seen to mainly be Grez, Silvina, and Shemira. Shemira just melts everyone and Grez gives Silv the shield so she is untouchable from behind
try brutus skreg lyca rowan daimon, call on daimon.
Any1 have guide for Howling waste Trial ?
@ember bane try YouTube there are lots of good you tubers
@summer cedar still get melted
@tepid shale you need a carry. If you have enough copies, you should consider building Daimon, Shemira or Belinda to M and above. Then build a team that supports them to ult often in quick succession. Use Rowan and Rosaline to help your carry kill everyone.
I could deff M Belinda if I get more fodder
Just got get to legendary + so what team should I build
Anyone got a LB 216 clear?
need help
I’m not a pro or anything but
@tepid shale Lucius, Belinda, Fawkes, Rowan and Rosaline
Ty!!
@hollow hatch yep. I don't remember the comp, but I did beat it.
Lol
So this?
I managed to get it by swapping Gwyn for Belinda
Fawkes behind Belinda, he will reposition someone directly into her ult
Ofc I’ll level her just tryna make sure I position it correctly
@tepid shale that's fine. You can also swap Rosa and Belinda bc Rosa has reduced damage when she's following someone. You can also use Fawkes' high dodge to bait certain enemies. It's very flexible
Oh ok!
Should i switch out Lyca out for Rosaline? all lyca does is keep my team underleveled(i legit cant get copies of her), and give some haste at the beginning of the battle.
need help plz ^^
read the pins
@wraith salmon what are you running atm?
I asssuuummme you mean my formation so
@wraith salmon yeah, you should just build another L+ fodder hero and stick Lyca in the crystal. Maybe Saveas or Mirael since they'll be a better carry for you than an Elite Belinda
You mean build a L+ fodder hero for Rosa?
@craggy night change the way you ascend units completely before asking for lineups.
@wraith salmon what's Rosa's ascension?
I reset everything an DONT know what to use

Non existent. I dont have her yet IIRC
@wraith salmon oh, them make Saveas to L+ then. No Rosa means no double ult for most carries. Use Saveas temporarily until you can get at least 1 Rosa.
@opal tiger can you show your whole roster?
@opal tiger maybe make a scribble on the pic. It does that sometimes
And then switch out Lyca for Rosa when i have her, and switch out saveas for belinda when i have her at mythic/L+?
@wraith salmon It can be Belinda, or it could be Daimon, Shemira, etc. You mostly want Daimon since he's so reliable. Any carry with the most copies will do.
@pale kettle what do u mean by that
Ok thanks!
@opal tiger use Wu Kong til you've pushed as far as you can with him at lvl 100. Then swap to a L+ carry to complete early game.
Idk what a l-carry is 😐
@opal tiger @craggy night you both should go to the pins of #classic-questions for the basics.
@craggy night you've built too many random units that don't work well together. Most of them are even stuck in legend rather than taken straight to legend+. It's all a mess and that's why you're stuck often in early game. The pins with the basics saves you a lot of headaches.
@pale kettle okay thank you! but i can’t seem to find the basics in #classic-questions
@opal tiger did you level the others up? I suggest Brutus as a frontline and maybe build Saveas as secondary tank and dps.
@craggy night it's in pins of #classic-questions
I’m only stuck cuz I can’t do anything
@craggy night
oh okay thank u so much 🙂
@opal tiger if you can start a stage, you can beat it. Try and build other units and maybe ascend more. If you check the pins, you'll fly through early game. Trust me.
I give up this game is full of shit
lmao 
Don't quit, soldier! You have to win the war against the Hypogeans! FIGHT LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT!!!
What am I to do
Bye @pale kettle
can u show full box? id swap rowan in if u have one. also who does fawkes coffin?
ouch. no rowan. the support god doesnt like u ig. you're also in a tough spot cuz neither kaz nor luci can carry that well. does fawkes coffin before arden roots?
try kaz luci lyca rosa fawkes then. I just needed to know if he worth keeping on, which he is is he stops arden's root. if rosa follows luci over kaz then perhaps keep nemora. tough to say honestly
that's prolly the best lineup I got for you then. you'd much rather have a high level carry, and u shud stop building L heroes.
What’s that mean?
which part?
L heroes
so if you dont have 4 copies, you'll get stuck for a while waiting at L. in doing so, you spread your fodder multiple ways, meaning your top 5 will take longer to get ascended. thus u prefer to wait for 4 copies, and take a hero straight to L+ instead. Otherwise it's entirely luck dependent if u ever get the 3rd or 4th copy needed for L+.
I JUST beat this lineup but forgot what lineup I used, but I'm pretty sure it's along the heroes I have in formation now.
try tasi across from ferael in case she can charm him maybe? then he can stun his teammates
Tasi doesn’t do that. You’re thinking of Nemora
oh youre right 💀 brain fart
Stuck here, any help would be appreciated
@austere lichen the problem is that you have triple dps and two tanks. You need supports. Try and build an Arden as high in ascension as you can and make him your cc. Pick one dps and run with them as your carry. Izold is great, but he won't serve as an effective tank as that's not really his main role. Check the pins from #classic-questions for the basics.
Do you really need 2 tanks?
you need 1 carry, 4 supports
Alright
i mean, early game maybe 1 tank would be ok
Most I've been able to kill was Ogi and Niru with I think this formation, but again Shemira melts. Unfortunately I used my second mercenary before I could reach this stage. Any advice?
But I don't have my Shemira up at all
Still stuck on this dang level 😭 help pls
I can also rent use merc so tell me what merc i should get if needed
@gloomy roost follow the beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions , it's the very first pin
@west sluice lemme see if i can help
So called can we go to pivot chat
sure
Halp me
Is this lineup good?
Ideas? Keep in losing to the Lucius and Saveas mainly
What am i doing wrong? I can do gold-diamond in other TR but i always do bad vs arden. Can’t even make it past bronze
I can’t purchase him?
Gotta wait 15 days
@worthy island you don't rlly need rowan, put front Saurus with ghez, Backline try twins mehira and warek
What should I be using / formation
@brave oriole could u help?
@shrewd sorrel I told you, Gwyneth middle always, and Rosa to follow.
So maybe
Rowan
Brutus
Gwyneth dura's eye
Saurus
Rosa
Anyone know how to beat this?
okay ill try
Can use Numisu aswell for the haste buff on Gwyn
i used Zaph instead of rosa so zaph could one shot saveas and brutus would stay alive a bit longer
@pale kettle thanks i havent realized that the batguy is a tank too xD
@pale kettle should I take Lucretia or belinda instead?
Any ideas for a lineup?
what would be a good comp for c12-13 with what I have. struggling
@cyan solar Try Lyca, Saf, Arden, Rowan, Daimon. Lyca will prolly die first but she's only there for the haste buff. Saf can hopefully tank a little since she's M+, and her pyramid buff for Daimon.
everyone's too squishy 
nara on lyca seems to work, i just have to rng it hard
doesn't help when numisu messes up with safiya's ultimate targetting
Any tips on this? Can't get past it
The heroes you put on your crystal are all squishy 
Maybe slot Brutus.
Gz!
Stage 29-60 is a doozy. Anyone got ideas? Help is always appreciated!
@eternal ocean Can you try Lucius, Rosa, Warek, Rowan, Daimon/Shem? I want to know if Warek can flip Ogi
If you ment in that order um warek got shit on haha
So he didn't flip Ogi. Or he can't? Oh well. Put him front then. And Lucius on pos 3. Or maybe Lyca instead of Warek.
Messed up b4 reading guides and got a couple Legendaries with no elites to get them to legendary +. What lineup should I be running with what I got? Should be able to get everything to level 160 next couple days of AFKing
@verbal fjord can't remember exactly, but i think I had
Eironn
Ferael
Lyca
Rowan
Safiya?
@brave oriole That looked like it was going to work on the first attempt, but the enemy Athalia just cut Lyca in half
@verbal fjord @verbal fjord try then rowan middle and lyca on its place. But anyway, even if you failed a few attempts, it will work still, some stages need lots of retries. With the same team
Lvl up more your Daimon, put him 160 and the other heroes 140, maybe lvl 180 if you can
(@violet pecan )
@wide gust
Ainz
Daimon
Rowan
Thoran
Arden
@gloomy shard thanks dude for the advice but i got it allready 🙂 and managed somehow to complete the whole chapter im now in chap 18 so all good but thank you anyway!
Yeah, I resonded you cuz I didn't know, well gg and have fun
well im aware of how hard it is to help such a situation since im underlvled but i always tend to ask for help and see if anyone has an idea on how to do it and thank you!
I suppose this goes here. What should I start working towards? I'm pretty stuck and I think I should start going for heroes that are more endgame worthy.
Even with all the heals I get melted, any tips?
Who should replace grazhul ive realized that i had 3 Tanks one was replaced by belinda
I reset shem for bel. Still stuck, help pls?
@foggy fox Can you try Rosa, Shem, Lyca, Arden, Tasi. Or are they too squishy?
Did Arden get his roots out? Tasi banished somebody? Or just drop dead from start?
Good lineup tell me what to do
@cloud lagoon reset Gorvo and put those recourses into Hogan. Hogan is a better tank
@foggy fox I'm thinking of Rosa+Shem front just so Shem can ult fast. Lyca somewhere for the haste. Problem is stalling the enemies. I was hoping Arden and Tasi could do that with cc. But they failed, then maybe Brutus will do better holding. And Lucius? Idk, I'm sorry
Rosa isn't using her ult at all
Eye on her and Call on Shem?
Nice. Gz!
Horgo has been carrying me better
Any ideas please
Early game I still advise leveling Hogan instead, and putting Gorvo on the crystal (once you unlock that) if you really want to use him. You should read the pins in #classic-questions btw
@crisp marsh Get your free Lucretia and Wukong copies
get free zaphrael copy
Suggestions?
https://i.imgur.com/vAEUEgz.png
How to beat this XD can't debuff the shield 😅
@crisp marsh get yourself a free copy of wukong from the event. Once you got him, level him to 60 and try something like
Mortas
gorvo
Lucius
wukong
Ainz/hogan
Suggestions?
https://i.imgur.com/vAEUEgz.png
@half lake depends on who fawkes is banishing, I'd try lucius
tasi
Nara
Brutus
Daimon
https://i.imgur.com/PKz3kl7.png
I'll try it now
What does it mean to share? Coz its redirecting me to the tavern
Both frontlines are out instantly
What does it mean to share? Coz its redirecting me to the tavern
@crisp marsh either share an epic summon or share an union
@half lake send the battle report, don't think those Frontline can os you as of now
Yeah sadly...
https://i.imgur.com/rCAJHWz.png
Do i need a trading hub to share? Sorry just newbie 😅
@half lake try switching daimon and nara, tasi and lucius. if tasi still die in spot 3, you might use estrilda spot 1 lucius 3
@crisp marsh ranhorn>library>unions, share the unions you make there
I need help with this tho
Did you use all 5 attempts? Are you using chaos bringer/eye/grace/call/call?
like Nilas said, always use all 5 attempts, as arden's rng w grez rng is ABSURD. you might get 4x dmg on the next fight for no reason other than rng
Good luck!
It’s mostly RNG lmao (not me in the pic....my luck sucked this time around)
umm it works too well.. thanks Nilos 😆
@stuck trellis can i hab pls
I have been stuck in this stage since forever now. As you can see i am crazy overleveled in LB tower, but still this stage has been a nightmare.
stage 19-10 f2p
Belinda (blade or call)
rosa (blade or call)
rowan (call)
lucius (vitality or call)
fawkes (attackspeed or dodge)
@subtle yoke
i feel like my shemira is doing well, but i feel like i can do better but idk what to do..havent played in ages
Tasi
lyca
rowan
Eiron (call)
saf
@final star
@stable peak u should show stage. we dont have this stages in head
what's the best set up for chapter 13 with what I have? also any just general tips would be nice, fairly new to the game
if you want general tips, read the pins in #classic-questions
Gwyneth should be your highest level hero
Fawkes
idk a tank u got
rowan
Lucius
Gwyn (depens on what enemy on other side) (btw. Shemira is better carry but is just L)
u have to much L heros.
@ionic abyss
ty!
any ideas ? 23-2
Help please
Rosa
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
@stone halo
Belinda
Hendrik
Lyca
Skreg
Daimon
Fawkes
Hendrik
Lyca
Skreg
Belinda
@rare umbra
and whats the problem? wichone cc fawkes [...]
The Hendrik gets overpowered and everyone dies
Daimon
Belinda
Fawkes
Skreg
Lyca
@rare umbra
My team gets melted, any tips?
Lyca
Rowan
Mirael
Hogan
Arden
Saveas
Hogan
rowan
Talene/lyca
@low ravine
Arden
@pale kettle the skreg, got overpowered
Thanks, I’ll try that rn
Rowan is my swap here. I've tried gorvo for big smash and Fawkes to 5v4, just trying to set up time for daimon but can't make enough time
Fawkes
Talene
rowan
Rosa
Ainz
u could try that @hollow timber
Team gets melted before they can do anything unfortunately :/
not very sure who to work on as my carry 😅 would appreciate all the help!!
@languid skiff its still very early for you to decide on a main dmg dealer. Work with Bel for now since you got her at L+. You can transition later to Shemira at lvls 161 or Daimon if you pull him.
Rowan
Hogan
Mirael
Talene
Lyca
@low ravine
idk. I play with frontlane tanks early^^
thanks a lot @edgy ferry !!
@pale kettle power capped by 9k lol
@languid skiff also remember if you're having a hard time just wait and lvl up some more. At those lvls you dont need to worry much about formations. Use what works
Pretty sure I need daimon on that team, I'll try him instead of ainz
thank you 🙂 what are the ways to get more medals of valor and savior's medallions?
I got 2 kills so far so this is definitely progress
Passed it, thanks @pale kettle
gz
Take ur flora

Belinda
rosa
Lyca
Lucius
Fawkes
Nemora
Lucius
Fawkes/Belinda
Rosa
Belinda/Fawkes
Belinda
Brutus
Rosa
Lucius
Fawkes
rosa should run however to belinda
@pale kettle
Could anyone give me some advice. I have been stuck on 11-16 for about a week and don’t know what to do to push further. I have everyone max leveled and all the gear maxed. Here are my people.
A
Arden
Rosa
Lyca
Lucius
Shemira
@pale kettle
read pins in #classic-questions and stop to make all L @remote obsidian
Kk ty
Daimon
Rosa
Lyca
Lucius
Shemira
@pale kettle
Plague it didn’t work
I might need to just wait awhile for more dupes
missed a bit Rowan @pale kettle
yeah rowan never wanted to come home
no cookies? 😄
nope
im trying to get one more nemora
Any ideas?
@pale kettle pssst its my turn to ask. Should I finish off Tidus or go build Silas?
I rly dont know how good is silas - but why u dont do both?^^ I would finished one before next.. but atm u get rewards for building Silas so if u can push him art make silas for rewards^^
@pale kettle ikr. Thing is I've spent my monthly hero quota. I do have 165 fac scrolls
so wish hero Tidus to Ac. and FS into GB for Izold and Tidus maybe @edgy ferry
I’ve been stuck on this for days
@pale kettle yeah that's the plan. Waiting for 29 days sucks so much ass tho. Plus I am also still not that sold on Silas since yes he is in sustenance branch but hes an intelligence gear user so eeeeeehh
Ainz
Thoran
Rosa
Brutus
Lyca
@eager mango
hope for ainz ult
A yo plaque i got a question
Thank youuu
works @eager mango ?

Tips? Saf is just there for the buff to help rowan survive a bit longer, but...
swap lyca and rowan @autumn pulsar
and maybe Tasi for saf
Rowan dies almost immediately if I do that :(
Lyca
Shemira
rowan
Lucius
Hendrik
hope that Hendrik safe Rowan @autumn pulsar
@autumn pulsar if you had him at M he can frontline reliably
Haha yeah I'm trying, I never get lucky with my wlist
I don't understand it but my hendrix is ridiculously squishy
Silvina keeps going for my Rosa @pale kettle
@autumn pulsar he needs a bit of gear plus his other skills you haven't unlocked yet
sure she will jump on every low mage - so idk.^^
I can't beat this
I need her to distract Thane and keep the team alive
What can I do and no I don't use this setup I just changed to it like 5 mins ago
@stoic sun the problem is the enemy Tasi tbh. She will one shot you. I have no problems with Thane but with Tasi
Have you tried Rowan/tasi/saf/Eironn/Lyca?
Me
@faint current hopefully he has and I'm guessing it didnt work so he had to use his Talene
Yeah I'm just struggling keeping Eirron or Safiya alive long enough
Pls help
@haughty furnace ditch pippa and use rosaline, arden or lucius instead
@haughty furnace have you tried Rowan? Replace Pippa with Rowan and put him Center Backline. Even at just E he should work. Consider replacing Grez with Brutus as well
I don’t have Rowan
@haughty furnace oh. Uh that's uh quite the situation then
Ik and I just got daimon to dude
Can I get some help with this stage cant seem to get a comp together that doesnt die immediately. If I need to show more champs I can.
i beat it, Daimon comp >>>>>> Saf-Eirron
THANK YOU @pale kettle IT WORKED
gz @eager mango
Is this best team i can muster?
do you have grezhul or warek?
i have both but they are E+
use them over rosaline and ezizh
so no rosaline ults for saurus?
no
ok
wack
@stoic sun my highest dmg lmao. wish i had mehira tho haha
replace brutus with daimon in front and try use arden bottom back while safiya back top
If that doesnt work try use rowan back middle and use nara pull raine
god bless you exzlu
you are welcome haha. Arden roots are very useful at that stage of game and he is L+. also dont make L hero unless you can L+ them
yeah i know, i made that mistake when i first started playing the game 
with your team composition as using safiya main carry you need buy her enough time pull her ult
i'm trying to work on my eironn to make the safiya+eironn team
Eironn will be helpful as supporting yes but he wont do much till ch 18 in my experience but it is good choise work on him but dont forget to make safiya M+ once you get L+ food hero and enough copies A her.
anyway good luck with your campaign push 
safiya already is m+
, but thank you!
ahh didnt see corners 😄
Halp
Arden roots are preventing me from getting in damage before my frontline falls. Any advice?
try use tidus against ezizh and skreg against tasi thats all i can say haha or replace skreg with warek against tasi
Tried swapping rosa for rowan too
who gets banished by tasi?
@dry blaze tidus dies instantly lol
what happens when tidus is replaced with warek?
Dies instantly
Hmm tried again to see who tasi was banishing and this time arden rooted rosa instead of bel so i cleared it 😅
well im not into that far so i dont know then. tidus prolly just need dodge or something. haha.
rng is strong. try do 20-30 times level beacuse RNG is a thing
Fair i didnt realize the root was random too ty
It's just a shit stage
@regal arrow root is always random
it say in description too. i mostly counter root with cecilia or find a way interrupt him before he uses roots
haha yeah. Arden normally isnt known much unless been used beacuse Arden roots works quite well up to ch 23 beacuse all he need is to survive till roots and then he can die haha
I keep running out of time... any help?
how it looks if you use shemira instead mirael? also you could replace rosawith tasi or lucretia
yea since rosa attaches to lucius shes not that useful here
pretty much
lucretia brings more damage while tasi brings better support in that situation.
Ill try that, ill have to switch the equipment then rq
yeah i'll switch equipments myself around too whenever i think certain hero does better
Ye i tried combining much stuff but the field is just full of wu kongs and heal
lmaooo yea wukong nemora tasi can stall
Also whos nemora? :o
makes it worse that there totem dude and lucius too
all you need to do is get rid of nemora and it should work fine.
nemora is the uuhhhh sheep/goat
Nemora is sheep girl @bleak wharf
Oh ight
So lucretia instead of rosa and shemira instead of lucretia
Also i have that relique thingy or idk what its called, that gives a shield after an ultimate is used who should i put that on?
lucretia instead of rosa and shemira instead mirael haha
tbh mirael is stronger at this level but lets see what works out first
well shemira works better imo but if angel can make mirael L+ then story is diff. but testing and trying out is this game forte 😄
ofcourse if he had nara, nara could grab nemora and make her a bit useless
Well i dont have any equipment for lucretia xD gotta see what i can do
back to square one again... both short girl and bow guy screw me over
@bleak wharf you can use shemira instead lucretia too
Couldnt even get mirael elite + ._.
short girl bow man LMAOOO
have you given it 20 tries?
This is what i set up, only shemira got miraels equip
yeah i have 
test test lets hope it works haha if not back to the drawing board
what happens if you use nara to grab isabelle? enemy back bottom
shemira might pop off just maybe
then eironn grabs her and safiya middle haha
moar testing needed tho, wait what about ferael hes def a monster. ahh
safiya is M+ so she might be able tank it if not rowan can be used insted brutus
hm.. bow guy just seems to stop my safiya from using her big red ball midway
yeah that was first plan
and then midget ghost girl starts blasting and then im dead
eironn grab him nara grab isabelle shafiya backline top
cause when that nuke comes down her healing aint gonna do anything
@cyan solar dont ignore my nara on isabelle plan 😄
oh yeah that was the original plan, but shem then silences my safiya and screws her over
Didnt work ;-;
how about if you use arden instead brutus? @cyan solar does arden get roots in?
whats the problem now? is it deaths or is it time
Still time
dies before he gets roots in
hmmm take out nemora and slap mirael in the middle
@cyan solar does eironn die front bottom while arden is back middle? if not you can use nara grab shemira
he gets targetted by bow guy and can't use his roots :(
yea that might work
wierd. eironn should be grab him from back too with isabelle
nah, eironn gets interrupted
Ok ill go for it 2 times
@cyan solar how about eironn top front nara back middle, arden back bottom?
does safiya die front? if not you could try replace daimon with nemora but thats a bit riskier haha.
safiya takes awhile to die upfront, she's usually the last one standing
It almost worked 2nd time until daimon decided to die ;-;
good so use safiya front. she should tank enough for nemora getting charm off
Should i give it a third try? Nemore died at 2nd try
its rng so give it 10-20 tries atleast
2 tries is really little yea give it like 10 -20
Ok dam ight xD thanks for the help c:
for me at ch 25 it takes atleast 30 tries but i manage get through 😄
cause sometimes you crit sometimes you get crit dodge blah blah alotta stuff
Pain
this game is
yea i just banged my head yesterday for like 15 minutes to get through 1 stage LMAO
What is that 30-43 in yo name tho?
im on chapter 30 stage 43
ch and stage
wait what LMAOO
LOL
there is like 40+
^^
It goes till 38
The thing with that though... You'll likely only make it to chapter 33, unless you're a dolphin.
Wym with dolphin :o
Dolphin is like a "casual spender" and Whale is "big spender"
Oh that thang, rip F2p
F2P can still get you far 😊
Well, that's casual spending over years. Whales typically spend upwards of 100 grand
jsut a car LMAO
Yeah but instead of a car you get cool lil guys killing things.
Worth it
#worth
Thats my life plan, spending 100 grand on a idle game
Same, my wife will divorce me but hey, cool lil guys killing things y'know?
at least they wont leave LMAOO
LMAO
also waifus are always in your imagination so they will always stay
Except imagination go poof
Is this a good line up?
How the hell did this work first try... whatever
@bleak wharf daimon is strong. stronger enemies stronger he is
Ye but i put the lil fairy in and daimon went bonkers
thats what he does. he always goes bonkers when he got good support
Sad lucretia noises
Lucretia is really weak without sig
@last fjord you really daimon backline.
@bitter rose what does that mean
@bleak wharf my daimon does 10-20mil damage at highest haha
Who to pick?
ainz
ainz
The kakashi like dude?
Oh i still was on mention my bad
skeleton
ainz without sign bad
He needs time to ramp. You want him backline. Also, if lucius is keeps dying in an instant, move flora to where diamon is. Put brutus where flora is and remove lucius and place diamon there.
He still does his job at clearing the field
buy enough time for 1 ult and he is done. literally destroyes everythign
Who has got zaphrael?
Like this ?
Rowan in middle
You want diamon under brutus.
Can ainz be a carry?
Doubt I am beating this soon anyway
The point is that diamon needs time to ramp up.
@bleak wharf he can. he is better version of safiya
So should i swap with mirael?
no. . you still need faster dmg
Kk
Lmao I’m stuck again
as ainz ult will load a while without Sig
Also yes ainz can be a carry he carried me thru chapters 11-16 and his si makes him a god
So hes late game carry basically
pretty much
Very bad speak english, sorry(
Sorta ig
Can help you but don't speak
he works early game but only if you get him M and his Sig +10 @bleak wharf
save emblems for ainz🎶
well he want rowan +30 before anything else first haha
True true but ainz is also really high priority if u don’t have Rowan
I literally have one copy of Rowan it’s sad
true
What’s very bad
Also can anyone help me with this
huh wha?
Gorgeous
@forest canopy aah chapter and stage? my chapter is 25 and stage is 33
Ok this the last one for tonight, who to pick?
i'll be waiting till i can get my lucretia there haha
Okay, sorry) my English bad
@bleak wharf you should choose most fight paths instead of those who to choose ones as my advice
I had no other choice
beacuse lab coins gonna be good resource to let you build
this lab run i never had to go into those choises haha. i just chose most fights route
Lucretia better in the game🌚
So who should i pick? xD
I have got really hard stage(
4
Kk ty
most left
Depends on the rest of ur team; if you have more gb id go kelthur but if u have more lightbearer I’d go Cecilia or Hendric lmao
I picked the hood girl alrdy ;-; now im scared to fight sheep girl since that wu kong trauma
How?
nemora scares me too
use cecilia on nemora. cecilia renders her useless quite bit
I have 2 fight options
nemora is a pain to fight
i never had problem with nemora. Nemora is easy
@forest canopy can we see all ur heroes
@bleak wharf second
Ight
25 hour before i can again do lab hard mode 😄
Lab hardmode very hard)
Maybe try putting nemora somewhere in there to get the bonus @forest canopy
Nemora bad idea because she cant give ult
LUCRETIA!!!
@eager mango Any advice who should I switch to who?
Thank god im done, tysm guys
Any tips? Want to get the 10 daily stages done
@teal fulcrum tasi or Rowan? Idk honestly
What do you guys recommend? Saveas regens so much health and I run out of time.
Can you use translator?
I haven't got talen but i have got 29-5... HOW
Помогите? показаны все доступные герои
yuppp
Эзиж тайдус лика мортрас софия
@teal fulcrum i passed that stage with yhe same core you are using Belinda Lucius Rowan but i used Fawkes has well (mercenary from a friend ) he makes boss fights alot easyer
Who want add me friend in the game?
Who has got zaph?
Who is best to ascend first? Nara, Baden, or grezhul?
@strong spoke None of my friends have that
I have shemira and Lyca ascended and ainz, should I not ascend Nara, baden or grezhul?
@teal fulcrum but you have him , i only used 1 from a friend because i never pulled him, Belinda was the one that killed everyone for me
Oh, sorry. Grezhul
@teal fulcrum i only used him for his control he puts the strongest dmg dealer on a coffin for 7 secs and lets me clean the rest while Belinda kills the rest
I would take out tasi to get higher light team bonus hp and atk
I also like my Belinda in the front , with good rng she ults more times
@thorn coral try and avoid making so many heroes to legendary, they are stuck there and stay there for so long.
next focus should be eironn tasi nemora ferael daimon safiya, these are pretty good. And rowan of course.
Any tips for this? Want to get the 10 daily stages done
maybe switch shem and dai so he can pop off
@violet igloo Thank you so much! I’ve been lost as to where to go from here
Tried that, thoran gets taken out quick and then daimon gets stunlocked
maybe flip it like thoran daimon instead of silas daimon on top to avoid the cc and slow
whose dealing the most dmg? i suppose tasi if not hook the biggest threat
Tasi banishes the daimon. The rest if the team gets destroyed then daimon stunlocked and can’t get blood shield going. That’s basically why i dont get past
ahhh maybe you can run ferael for a fear instead of silas
He dies before he gets fear of, kinda only daimon who survives
oh shittt hmmmm this ones tough then i dont think i can find a way to solve it gl tho
Understandable, daimon main carry has been hard without building the other heroes to support it. Big mistake on my end really
nah not really you are really far ahead already some things just cannot be beat with your current stuff. I dont think its a mistake to get a carry like daimon up early
faction towers are not a priority at ur lvl. it's like, hey cool I passed another stage, but dont worry ab it. campaign more important. ur doing fine
We’re in lineup-help?
How do I kill the back 3 first?
Hah, no worries. Easy mistake
@forest cliff 12345 lyca rowan tasi eironn lorsan
Feel a little stuck in campaign atm, so thought i would try to get some rewards wherever i could
Also looking for some gazing cards to get twins e+ before abyssal, last time people struggled to help me get the bossdmg mission done because i didn’t have thea
it takes time haha cant rush greatness thats this game. ofc unless you swipe
@vocal sluice like this? Because half the time I dont win, and the other half they kill the front first
yeah like that
just keep tryingh
i had eye call call call chalice
might wanna take off lyca furn or something
How can I clear this in the faction tower? Shemira is always cancerous for mauler and athalia is just always broken
yea i got lyca 9/9
@scenic relic tank shem with Brutus and put tidus back of him?
Any tips for this floor? Been stuck here a couple of weeks I’ve tried most lineups and I can never get close, god come wipes in 5 secs
Brutus where?
@peak ingot Lucius with call vs ezizh
Cool I'll keep trying that no luck so far though
fill
Luc
rowan
Rosa/Belinda
Belinda/rosa (need try whats better) rosa run to belinda@peak ingot
I’ve been stuck here a bit. Should I level a tank more or am I stuck till I get Muriel up to cap?
That picture took forever to upload wow. Lol.
always carry to maximum first
Ok. Imma be hard stuck for a minute then. Thanks.
Could I get help with stage 12-24 been stuck and my heroes just seem to die to quickly?
@inland bison Get Mira to ult faster than enemy Mira. Maybe switch in Lyca in pos 2 and transfer Lucius to pos 3. Try subbing out either Tasi or Rowan each retry.
That is definitely keeping my alive longer than 10 seconds but just not quite enough. Illl keep retrying and waiting for xp.
Pray for better rng also. Gl!
recommendations?
@silk cosmos instead of rosaline u can try ferael/daimon/nara/lyca/athalia, also if ferael is causing problems u might wanna try eironn reposition
As a new player? Neither will help you so much in the long term.
Ok Dyno, didn't ask.
Hello @warm swan,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
I literally dont know what to do here. Idk where to put eironn for him to grab and anywhere i mix my formation my team just dies
Uh, try Lyca-Rowan-Eironn-Tasi-Fera with Eye-Chalice-Call-Call-Eye
I am not getting past 30-47, All solutions include either a high ferael, which i dont have or ascended twins, which i also dont have
@warm swan so safiya is the biggest target to grab with eironn?
Got it, 30-47:
@elfin wyvern thats a tough one, if u can pull before enemy eironn ur in a good spot, but if not then id rather pull arden, ur better off cheesing that stage
thoran isnt built so not a choice
@elfin wyvern you can try with Saurus and eironn back
Imo it's just choosing on the lesser evil. Don't wanna pull on Seirus because he's tougher and might trigger his ult faster which will lock your team up together with Arden roots with Saf ending you all with her ult. All rng really.
Try
Eironn
Saurus
Rowan
Tasi
Safiya
If you can't pull, put call on eironn, or swap tasi with lyca
Anyone have any suggestions for challenger lineups?
@elfin wyvern if doesn't work well
Lyca
Eironn
Rowan
Tasi
Nara/athalia, gl
Nara gwyneth backline has negative synergy. Gwyn wants to have a stationary backline to chain arrows on to and Nara ruins that. Also Gwyn gains a damage boost when no enemies are nearby, which Nara also ruins.
Lineup help for king's tower 405?
Can i get some assistance here
If I had one more rowan I could get him to legendary but I cant buy him anywhere and it'll take forever to draw him
Mortas trials top left corner, guide comp not working for me, not anything else I've tried. Any help?
drop lucius, put brutus where daimon is, daimon where ferael is, and tasi in the empty slot
brutus is the best tank for daimon at your level by far
hmm okay let me put him in crystal and get gear. but the problem is that I only have E+ brutus still worth?
E brutus is like 95% as good as A brutus. His job is to live for 7 seconds guaranteed, and to roar to increase daimon dmg
ight leme try that
I have E brutus and him and daimon have been the only two heros that have been in 100% of my comps since ch 18. Everyone else has changed, though the main constants were rowan lyca and tasi. I don't have talene though
yea the rowan and tasi just get 1 tapped
post a screen to make sure everyone's in the right position?
I found at that stage that everyone gets 1 shot and then daimon 1v5s. iirc I actually dropped rowan until I could get him M +10 in favour of lyca or thoran
yea fair, he has been doing that for the most part lol
I believe my most common team comp was something like brutus/thoran/lyca/daimon/nara - need to use people who can provide value even if they get 1 shot.
yea i have a ton of copies of nara but I have no grave fodder so rip lol
even at E+ if she gets her cc off that's all you need, just have to delay their best character a bit for daimon to get his ult off
sometimes you need lyca as well for nara to get the cc off before she gets hit after the pull
eh well i will just keep switching it up i guess lol
Second day, here's what I have. What's the best team outta what I have?
Anyone have cap clear for 33-55?
@tepid shale i am giving u a warning u lack a carry at this point u will struggle more and more as u progress to the lvl200 hero range
I need help
I am stuck at stage 20-4 for 2 weeks now. No mercenaries can get me past it. Please help me someone, anyone
@narrow sandal u simply need a carry plus u have two aoe damage dealers think about using only one
Cam any 1 help me
@west sluice upgrade ur mythic to lvl180
@split peak anything i put in melts in 2 seconds, idk what carry to put in. My carries are shemira, belinda, and the tornado guy
And I can't
@split peak I’m kinda working on it rn.... I just happen to get a lot of light for my pulls unfortunately
Plus I just started like a month ago
Ur shem need to be lvl 220 and upfront do note lucius until lvl220 is pretty weak. @west sluice please take ur time and upgrade its ok to be stuck espetially since u are using lvl120 e+ heroes
So I’m trying my best lol Idek who the best carry is
And I’m not wasting time on Shem
@tepid shale shem is really good but with the huge flaw of being useless past lvl240 crystal
The thing is that is not my formation and animal is my carry
She drops off and that’s a waste
I’m not trying to waste time with something that’s going to drop off
And I'm not using e+ I DONT HAVE ANY
Belinda is an ok carry and she will be more useful after 240 though they are not top end
Oh sorry @tepid shale i was looking at someone else’s pic
This is not what I use draggy i was just testing something ok so I need help
Ohhhhh ok lol
When u said giving you a warning I thought I got one in the server and I was like for what lol
If I were to make a team for this what would be good
I don’t even have to have the hero’s there yet just curious what I need to work on
@tepid shale ill be honest at the moment u lack a lot of key heros to have an easy time pushing such as daimon eironn tasi and lyca
My lyca is mythic
need some help guys
I cant see ur top row actually
Daimon is just elite +
Tasi never drops bruh at least for me
Eiroon is legndary rn
Daimon is the best carry and he stays a top hero after 240 EIRONN IS A MUST
Ok so daimon is best owo?
I just need one copy of him to get to legendary plus sadly
Early game carry yes but later on eiron is big farael is also very good saf is another good one
ok my bad guys
Isn’t fawkes just a lower version of tasi
Can I sub him in for now
I mean when tasi starts dropping I’ll happily put her in I just have yet to get her
@tepid shale well no fawkes can be crucial in shutting down a high damage dealer plus he is amazing at buffing ur team and nerfing the enemy plus fawkes is a hard counter to lucius
Wait so fawkes makes Lucy bad
@tepid shale if u time it right fawkes will delete luc’s protective ult completely so having him unlocked even without being high lvl can help u get out if bad spots
Idk anything about teams ^ so I can’t help
Do check the lvls of ability unlock i obviously dont worry about that stuff this far in the game so i dont remember what ability unlocks at what lvl
@pliant holly ask something specific i cant help without knowing what u need
? I asked for lineup help for the level bro
@pliant holly ok but u need a lineup for what exactly pvp pve vow ae?
@pliant holly u are honestly missing at least one hero out of most meta comps for example if u had eironn or gwen u would have far more options
ok but that doesn't really help me man I don't have them so what can I do with these heroes?
Gwen and Rosi work well tho
Maybe try arthur daimon comp
gorvo dive oneshots arthur there though no?
^ that works
Ohhhhh
Need help with 30-31 everything I try fails
😫 sorry I wasn’t paying attention

