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well anyone other than sav & hogan gets one shot
by the saveas
and hogan gets 2 shot
sorry 3 shot
yeah u should put hogan in 2nd and tasi in 1st. and put nemora 4 instead of lyca so u can charm the enemy saveas
ah yeah that might work
does nemora's heal over time count as healing for sav's dmg reduction?
u need rng for nemora to hit sav with charm. Its just heals which has no effect of saveas abilities
if sav is regenerating he gets dmg reduction tho
which seems to work with some other heal over time like silas
yeah thats hp regen. but heals is different than hp regen xD
alright, i guess
anyway thanks for the help, can see a way forward now
even if I won't be able to pass that stage straight away
was feeling pretty stuck heh
but silas is regen to allies which helps saveas. GOod luck!. PM me if u need more help
silas skills is regen % of hp to allies
Right. Yeah, hopefully I'll get another Daimon copy from these faction scrolls and this issue will all go away ๐
tho generally u should one use 1 carry either daimon or saveas xD
yeah, I have a much better setup for daimon though
alright, im out for the night. cheers
Any tips on beating the tasi? Arden also is a bit of a pain
Any tips? As soon as Vedan ults, he deletes my entire team.
try to change hogan with lyca to get dodge + haste
or u could manual and put talene instead of hogan and manual and press talene ult when vedan ults
Stuck on this, any help?
@amber halo I'll try that, thanks
i forgot how to build a team...
can anyone suggest?
@amber halo It worked with Talene!! Thanks a lot!! :D
I'm lvl 42 on ch. 8-16. I didn't realise about carry heroes, so should I still worry about that? If so, who should I pick? I also can't decide who I should be keeping to ascend.. How do I know who to invest in if I don't know what heroes I'll get in the future ๐ฅบ ๐ค
u already have 2 carry heroes on ur team - lucretia and wukong. Normally u would only have 1 carry hero in ur team
@fossil flax u can force one by focusing on one in the lab store but mostly u would focus on the one u have most copies of currently
@amber halo Does Talene work well even tho she is only elite? It's prob gonna take a while before I get another copy to ascend her any further
My bad, I thought they were just higher level heroes than the rest of your team. But it's carry as in "carry" to end game ๐
as soon as u get ur heroes l+ talene wont work anymore but until then i would use her
Oki thank you
So I should just focus on Wu Kong and Lucretia instead of trying to get Talene or one of the best characters or something, you mean?
u wont be getting copies of them anytime soon. but until u get other carries u can use them. THey need 16 copies to ascend them so u should focus on normal tier heroes @fossil flax
Ah, I see. That's a lot. Thanks for the help!
normal heroes only need 8 and are way easier to get as u can wish for them in the tavern as well.
is this lineup still good?
Based on what I've got so far, which ones do you think would be good?
@south tundra why are u having 3 carry heroes in the backline? xD
@south tundra Use more support heroes like Rosaline or Fawkes
rosaline is not good tho when saveas is the carry. Rosaline would be good if he had an ult dependant carry
like shemira for example
even I forgot every units' name
last time I playedthe game maybe like a year
if u play competitively u should start over its what i did since when a year goes by everyone else is 100x stronger than u on ur server. I started over and my acc is 1 month old.
you mean rerolling?
I only used money on pass and monthly card and i got ascended shemira 2 days ago
Need halp team goes boom boom 
Can someone help me with this?
yes new account on a new server is what i would do. i did the same as you on my first acc. I started over and played amonth now
@south tundra
Have u tried arden where tasi is
then what do to with my current acc? just abandon it? also I cant really spend money for pass, it's too expensive
Yeah, it doesn't work either
abandon. I was at same point as u on s164. I abandoned it completely, so i can be competitively in arena etc and with others + events. Its easier if people on the server is at same point as urself
- if u get back after a year its hard to get used to again. At least it was for me and the game was so much more enjoyable after i started over. 1 year has past in ur server it makes competitive play in ur server useless and boring. At least for me a fresh start was way more fun
@south tundra
even as f2p
What should i use guys?
Depends on what u have
Not rly i just want a formation that works then ill work arround it
I guess all of the currencies isn't gonna be carried over, right@amber halo
Can't u see people's winning formation for it @stone holly and no nothing will get transferred @south tundra
winning formation is only on boss-stages
32-1 isn't boss doe
No idea how Daimon works but I ran Shem nuke comp for chap 23 xD
Howโs that look like? Got A shem so could try
Wait isn't Daimon super broken? Better off usin him for u
Ye he does work better for me, i think i might just be low on power rn. At least that what most people tell me after trying a couple of variations
Been stuck here for a few days, so im quite desperate atm
Oh no worries, I remember being stuck for a month on 24-60 or sth
You could do Ainz for Mortas and switch Lyca with Ainz
Iโll give it a go, i have enough dust to get another 220 atm. Should i?
You should yea
Bring up ainz maybe?
Sounds good
My god that was a lot og retries, but thank you very much!@3.141592653589793238462643383su#1933
Trust me the retries are a big part of the game xD I remember retrying certain stages hundreds of times 
I might set up a macro of some sort on bluestacks for future stages so i dont have to spend all my time doing it myself ๐
I'm stuck at this level any ideas?
@pale kettle if you have enough gears try
Shemira
Thoran
Gwyn
Talene
Estrilda
@charred ermine it's hard, I don't think I can do it right now
Estrilda rushes to shemira and kills everyone
@pale kettle yeah you can just afk for now and farm.for gears. You should invest on rowan though, if you want to fully utilize that shem ๐
Ok I'll try to do that, thanks
@pale kettle maybe
Shem
Rosa
Rowan
Brutus
Safiya
stuck with baden and ferael
baden kills ains and I tried daimon but ferael wipes him
@vast meadow charm ferael or use fawkes
@brave oriole estrilda and mirael crush shem and rosa and Brutus and safiya die to Isabella
@brave oriole I'll try my ascended fawkes
@pale kettle put some good artifacts and gear on them. Call Rosa, grace shem, eye safiya, chalice rowan or so, but, gear up your heroes
Yeah they're using the best gear
@pale kettle weird, shemira should not die, try she front of Rosa, and replace safiya with a hypogean
She was the last one to die now
@pale kettle did she killed anything?
No. all of them are at half hp tho @brave oriole
@pale kettle well, try Rosa. Middle and rowan back of shem
Same thing, estrilda has 2 shields I think
@pale kettle find a rowan merc, or a lucius ascended, should work
Ok I'll try that I already have lucius but I used it @brave oriole thanks
Idunno kaze, maybe attempt to use numisu instead of Raine, at your chapter the extra healing and distraction will probably be quite useful.
Mortas is wack @full pulsar put Belinda there
@full pulsar put Rowan front
Lucius gets shredded on frontline a lot
Double Estrilda makes this very annoying because they stunlock everyone to death
ok i will try it. thank you @vagrant horizon
Iโm not that far but Iโll try based on what ik
- Rowan
- Lucius
- Nemora
- Belinda
- Twins
@rugged bane might work idk ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I'm getting ready to drop wukong as my carry and switch to mirael or saveas as my carry. Based on who I have unlocked, which should I pick as carry and what should my formation be?
Mireal in my opinion
Ok, what would be the best formation to support her?
first u should make tasi and ur rowan e+
Was pretty sure on that one, trying to take time with ascension since it's irreversible.
no matter what hero u should always make it e+ even if u never use them
Can u guys make a team based on my heroes, i m focusing after reading some guides on shemira ,then prob i d want to go daimon i think he s good, and thoran any tips, and cNbu tell me what s bad and good
Shemira is trash, she was good 2 years ago and you read an outdated guidez now for now you can build daimon, ferael, oden, Rowan, and thoran
@vagrant horizon try putting baden in 2 thoran in 1. new hero in 3. rowan in 4. and wukong/raine in 5
ohh maybe actually lucretia in 5
does zaphrael helps me with anything rn, how should i combine them to grind for tgr moment
H e l p
Best team I usually go for lucretia at 1 nemora at 3 and raine at 5
Lucretia almost did it herself but no luck
Belinda at 4
Raine its not exactly a dps, but well, rosaline may help
@brave oriole his belinda is his carry not raine
Yea
Yeah.. But raine it's 160nโน๏ธ๐
Ik sheโs the only one I could l+
but yeah might help belinda a lot. I dont understand why u use nemora when u dont use wilder team. maybe removing nemora and putting rosaline is the play
Hmm ๐ค nemora always came clutch since 1-1 never even thought of taking her out but Iโll give it a try
i dont see why u need nemora when u already have rowan as ur healer
fawkes would also be better than nemora
She clings to raine. So imma take raine out so she clings to Belinda. As for Raines spot Iโll try fawkes there
You need rosaline, else silvina will always kill your rowan
Heard
that is true unless ur rowan is strong enough to get an ult off
and most optimal spot for rowan is 4
I donโt have a Fawkes
ohh
can t pass that
This did the trick
Barely
I put Rowan at 5 bc he couldnโt tank enough damage from silvinia
why are rowan in 5 now he cant heal belinda xD.. but the enemy doesnt have silvina? xD
@stark summit try mortas instead of oden also try swapping daimon+zaphrael
I passed silvinia thatโs the next stage
ohh nice try to get rowan in 4 or 1 to heal belinda
And luc at 5?
no ehh remove hogan and put the new dark hero. put him in 5 luc in 1 rowan in 4 rosa in 5
the new dark hero in 2 i meant. did it make sense?
Yes ty
if it doesnt work put thoran and baden in 1 and 2 and remove lucretia and the new hero
forget nemora unless u have tasi/arden and lyca in the team as well and without rowan. i mean its either wilder team or a lightbringer team u are running
Understood. Tysm
You are welcome
is baden good to invest in?
hes decent if u have lucius to protect his shadows
guys is flora any good ?? i can get up to 4 of her from the red chest should i get her ??
i just dropped lucius in tavern ๐
wat u should never fodder ascended tier heroes xD
oh by dropped u mean found or fodder? xD
found
what should i focus on to pass , im stuck here and also stuck in kings tower at 122,
Put daimon middle zaph bottom and ferael top
U need to upgrade your daimon he needs to become your carry
still losing it i need improvements , i dont want them rn ,ik i cant rn buy who should i focus on , im going to get thoran from labyrinth in 12 hours shouldni do that?
or shemira depends on what he wants to do and he shouldnt use zephrael when he already have a carry
im trying to get daimon as powerfull as i can but i just don t drop her
shemira is more guaranteed since u can get her in lab tho she falls off
ferael is quite low atm,, he just insta dies
What lineup would you guys recommend for campaign and peaks of time with these ones here?
@stark summit the only hero that worth to get from there, it's shemira. She can carry up to chap 28,no matter what ppls say, she fall off, but late game
she falls off after chapter 25. but yeah shes a good carry i have her ascended and im at 18-40
I dropped her in chapter 23
lucius baden fawkes rowan and shemira. (ferael until u get fawkes)
ohh u dont have lucius?
Where is the place to redeem codes
its on a website now
You could try Shemira, Rowan, Lyca, tasi, eironn. I would also wait until you can make a hero L+ before making it L
Need some help. Stuck in chapter 12-23. I messed up early on and made a duplicate legendary of one, not realizing it until they were lined up.
budget burst team for f2p
youd wanna replace tasi with twins when you get them ascended
Welp they will not be ascended any time soon
Nope, just for bosses
your team seems good rn, till you build eironn you can put in daimon, but enemy eironns will give you a hard time
Im using brutus shem daimon farael and rowan rn
Cant wait to have that ainz to replace shem. She couldnt carry anymore
use this formation with daimon till eironn gets built
@muted stream you should use rosaline a lot with shemira
Is a M rosa good enough?
Ofc
What team do u suggest?
rosa is good at any ascension, she just becomes better at M for her SI
Well, something like shem +tank Front, rosaline, rowan and last, ferael fawkes arden lyca etc
Yeah well, vs maulers etc arden it's the best cc
arden is goated early game
Yeah i used him all the way to 21 and forgot abt him
i still use arden in wilder tower 300+


@pale kettle Iโd try putting your saurus opposite Brutus. Your saurus should heal enough to keep himself at full hp, while keeping Brutus busy and giving huge stat buffs to your whole team.
Ill switched accounts my f2p one is on the same stage, like this?
If Saurus is getting interrupted then donโt bother, if he stays at full stacks and you still lose...well keep using saurus in that spot and the other 4 spots we can figure out
Yeah see how that goes
i used nemora in that stage to charm safiya and it was an auto win
- Tasi
- Rowan
- Nemora
- Lyca
- Ferael/eironn i dont remmeber tbh
well my saurus gets annihilated
i guess ill just chill get some lvls up and mby in a few weeks ill get through chapter 29
thanks for the help
@pale kettle nah u can do it with 30 rowan u can literally
Can I see ur all heroes of this account?
tried my formation?
theres an alternate
- Tasi
- Rowan
- Eironn
- Lyca
- Ferael
Any ideas?
ill show u both accs hold on
@muted stream try changing daimon and Farael positions
this looks like an eironn stage
Yeah not gonna work with my purple eironn
2nd acc only has legendary+ eironn
let Sieg merc eironn from Seiryu and do
- Tasi
- Rowan
- Eironn
- Lyca
- Ferael
@pale kettle 1st account u ca try this
Tasi
Rowan
Farael
Khasos
Ainz
2nd try this( 2nd has better SIs)
Ainz
Rowan
Farael
Tasi
Saurus
Any Ideas? Still a noob learning and looking for friends.
nah man i give up
its 29 60, dont feel so bad 
have a carry
reset everyone to 80 and then get saveas to 120, if you have extra exp then get everyone to 100 and work on 140 saveas
lyca rowan tasi fera daimon works, but u may need daimon +20. pippi gave me the lineup but I need SI too
@mint kettle not sure if will work good, but maybe
Lyca
Tasi
Eironn
Rowan
Ferael/nara/athalia/nemora
But usually, safiya or Saurus kill faster that tasi.
Looking to build the best team I can for the campaign grind. What should/can I do with this?
Sry for late ping, but what gear you have on saurus? Full T2 he should be super tanky at that level deficit
Why is it recommended to wait till we can upgrade to L+ rather than just upgrading to L instead
please help me
Struggling to get this last stage done, I just seem to die to quick.
Going from L to L+ requires 2 more E copies of THAT SPECIFIC HERO. For fodder itโs easy to get more of those. For A-tier heroes depending on your luck it could take MONTHS
@stark summit bcs you are wasting your elite +fodders if you not getting anytime soon the heroes ascended
Any suggestions would be much appreciated, just another stage where tasi unleashes hell
so ur saying it s worth waiting so i can make a L+ bcs it s a chance i can get the copies of another heroe for L+ faster that what i could reach that potential L that I have to L+?
Thanks it worked but daemon had only +15
faster than*
awesome! now you've passed me and I have no advice to offer anymore lol
This worked for me, but like 50 retries
If i reset everyone expect Baden , it will make everyone in the crystal lvl 137?
No, lvl 1
oh
Crystal heroes get the lowest lvl of the 5
ik it takes the top 5 highest lvl s but dunno what i thought
Looking to try and build a new team. Been running the shemira team. Any suggestions.
t2 wilder faction gear all maxed up'd
@warm atlas well, shemira still work the best for now, after 240 crystal you may go for eironn daimon safiya etc
is it worth to reset this to get another shem? or it randomizes the heroes
But if you want an advice make,mske Lucius 240,lol
Maybe the sig is just too low then. Sorry I couldnโt help :/
Ok thanks@brave oriole.
Need some help
@stark summit deppends. But I guess it's too late to save for ainz anyway. If you refresh, will. Be the same heroes. But worth if helps you with anything getting one more shem, like if you can ascend shem. To l+ or so. If it's not the case, don't waste diamonds for
i need 3 more for L+ but i can t see another way to get shem except of hoping i get her in tavern
Well, keep shem. In your wishlist, there's 2copies that you will get, one from peak, and one from completing chap 15 i think
ok thanks
is ch15 not brutus @brave oriole ?
@stark summit i rushed shemira ascended - my acc is 1 months old and have shemira ascended so i think its worth. also only 1 lucius from ascending him as well
but i only refreshed when i got smth out of it right away = progress. If nothing happens when u buy it i wouldnt do it
@raw rune I'm not sure 100% but there's a shemira also as reward on some early chap
fair enough wouldn't be surprised
yeah just one tho think its 15 or 16
And one from peak
yup
I just canโt get Belinda to ult
try using rosaline then
She gets deleted instantly
Ofc, she's in a wrong place, you may move
change rowan and brutus position - cz rowan dies anyway and then brutus will go tank and help belinda
i put here back row but still gets rooted bu arden
But, all in all, yeah, you have to cc arden
i have 6 different formation of same team depends on what im against
Anyone got a surefire way to deal with oscar?
i tried pulling arden with eironn but he still roots eironn in front of him
@silk drift add lyca too
i am
Tips for killing backline first challenge in Misty valley?
ur rowan is nothing in that fight and complete useless if he dont have time for ult. so yeah change him with lyca if rowan dies before ulting
try belinda brutus arden rowan lyca. lyca shud haste so ur arden roots first
Complicated, @valid coral, but sounds like Gwyneth
ahahah notice smth funny. its same heroes ur against in 19-6 and 19-20 wauw xD
Tasi and ezio in front,back lyca,errion and skriath
nope mine got rooted first
exactly same positions just 8 lv lower
there's no oscar in this pic. who are you referring to?
the only thing my saurus need are furnitures his sig is 30 but np
5star as well
Line up help pls
ruko I've noticed they reuse that all wilder team more than a few times in campaign
Oh my bad, i mean thane of course
Should the bird have his furniture for it to work? Mine is only E+
vs lyca + arden with smth else in campaign is so boosted and annoying
Line up help
but i get lucius from mythic to ascended tomorrow should be able to complete chapter 19 ez
Merc it
swap lyca brutus is my first instinct. I can't tell if daimon is being used as tank or carry here
i went from 19-1 to 19-38 in one day but i am stuck at this stage
?????
Help please? Any chance I can do this?
Lucius is fine m+, just you need strategy and dura's call
@vapid field yes u can with some replays
Anyadvice how to beat this last battle in trails of god
Daimon is a carry here, but ainz has done enough dmg to get me through a few stages today
@crude gulch mostly to cancel safiya mantra somehow, try to charm safiya if you cannot cc
seeing as daimon is considered the better carry, try luci brutus daimon rowan feral. if fera dies super fast, swap in lyca, but hopefully his interrupts keep daimon up long enough to buff
Got artifacts i should use for those?
I personally run chalice luci, eye fera, call daimon, call rowan, brutus is whatever cuz he's there for his invuln and nothing else. maybe drape/chalice/grace or whatever, but his defensive stats are so bad relative to other tanks it likely doesn't matter. @royal thorn
21-52.
9 40
I'm a little puzzled why you're not running shem carry. you don't quite have the pieces for an eironn/saf comp yet, and shem works v well up to ch23ish. but try luci shem tasi/rosa rowan lyca maybe
blade shem, chalice luci, call rowan/tasi, eye lyca
you have to show enemies- it's easier to help if we know who they are and in what position. don't have all the stages memorized, and best comp varies by stage
I'm stuck
I had to swap in lyca because of powercap, but it isnโt really doing it rn.
is luci ulting?
None of them are
wat
He will never do without call
I'm in a fight for less than 10 secs
make lucius get focused while he uses his shield and its ez ult
lucius with call?!! chalice or cape is what u need on lucius lel
I can't he get 1 shot they do this thing were they go for 1 at a time
maybe use mortas instead of lyca or smth
Should I ascend thoran or Torne to mythic ?
Worse
@vague tulip I wouldn't any of the two, deppends of what your gb heroes are atm
Luci dies too quick
Going to replace Nemora with Lucius ASAP
@unkempt field you need Brutus
@west sluice u should do this: hogan 1 estrilda 2 3 the lv 113 wilder(dont recall name) lyca 4 ira 5
u need the 5 man buff then i dont think u die and just need a few retries to win
@summer cedar Lucius just get 1shot
tf? how is he not activating blessed shield?
@unkempt field try
Arden
Shem dura's grace
Rowan
Lyca
Lucius call
got no arden
shem needs blade to ult fast lol.. dont put grace on shemira she will never ult like that
And you played for how long?
try daimon brutus luci rowan lyca then
long enough there is no way u put grace on shemira
ruko is ch33 or 34 or something like that. also yeah grace is bad on shem
Aha, okay then
Yeah it's okay, keep blade on shem ๐
Advice for me anyone?
show full box instead. hard to work with only 10 heroes
Worked a lot better, now i think itโs a lot of retries
@north dew why u not using saveas carry instead of e+ gwyn
I suppose you've reached the point where luci simply can't tank frontline anymore. is what it is, I wasn't quite sure the exact moment where he starts to fall off so I thought his blessed shield would keep him up
I only have him M and pretty low gear. So guess itโs that as will
ira nemora arden hogan and cecilia. Make arden 141
maybe cecilia is not the best but its what u have
all ur resources shud go into sav honestly. lack of a viable secondary tank but is what it is. if sav is over leveled he can play the 2 i suppose
its hard for him to form buffs with saveas but yeah
brutus is kinda required with sav carry
I donโt use sav or ira. They are just there for the pentagram
for sure not an optimal situation but it's what it is
Am I hard stuck here? All my back line dies before they can do anything
try arden 4 lyca 5. STOP BUILDING L HEROES
@north dew saveas is op early game.. and u should use highest ascensions with buffs in early game to win
Why would arden work? There's silvina
he wont
u right im blind. rowan 4 then, at least the stall gets up, arden 5 as is
@autumn pulsar test if rowan stay alive with safiya buff
If not, you have to add Rosa too, and that is
remember call on rowan
Very close rng not helping. Need 5k dust to 240 shemira
@unkempt field are you pulling safiya?
No safiya
@summer cedar I put luci behind daimon, but something is still reaching and oneshotting him. Heโs no good if he doesnโt ult right?
@unkempt field ah right, it's arden, my bad
essentially yes. need to scroll up now and figure out the last thing i saidcuz u dont reply to my previous statement. see what nemora can do if luci never ults. nothing should kill him at the 3 tho...
@royal thorn can you use 2x call? If yes, put one on Lucius
Tried that, doesnโt matter when he gets oneshot. I got him to ult while using grave
Well, up to you, he wouldn't die if Backline
@autumn pulsar is shemira getting cced before ult?
Yes he does
sometimes i run rowan 4 lucius 5 and shemira 2 to prevent it
which is bizarre to me honestly. angelo and shem should not hit him
Itโs hogan knockup
or lucius 4 rowan 5 shem 2
...hogan is one-shotting luci? did I read that right?
@royal thorn usually you need fawkes when u Vs shem
lucius will still tank and take most cc instead of shemira and rowan usually ults.. and only those down there really needs heals from rowan
to be able to carry. @brave oriole true but tasi ult is ok too
Apparently he did, but rng got me through rn. Got lucius to ult by using grace so he dodged.
alrighty then whatever works. gz!
Ayyy safia rowan arden back line worked
With some food now i can ascend lucius, but not too sure if i want to do that or save food for rosa which is missing 2 copies
It was so close though
Canโt beat this. Who should I move around? Iโve tried Arden and Rosaline instead of Nem and moved tanks all over. Mehira just gets insta killed
stop building L heroes. I'd swap daimon for ainz, as u dont have a carry
Roger
read the pins in #classic-questions for best lineups prior to lvl160
I just got that lineup from over there lol
Iโm currently capped for dust and hero copies. Any lineup suggestions for progression until then? Top picture is best hero line-up currently.
I went
Ainz
Lucien
Nem
Brutus
Daimon
And won it finally thanks!
who does rosa follow?
What would be best setup for campaign grind?
get a copy of rowan
@summer cedar rosa follows Daimon
stop building L heroes. ONLY LEVEL UP 5 HEROES AND RESET THE REST (tasi is wasting resources). I recommend u read the pins in #classic-questions for further help. also ur carry shud be ur highest lvl, and I can only assume that's ainz. try brutus luci ainz rowan lyca/arden, as needed
daimon brutus rosa rowan tasi for a general lineup. stage by stage this may not work as well, since I'm assuming u asked for general progression, not a single stage
Iโve been stuck on this for a minute
get your free wu kong. he carries hard to lvl 100, lvl him up higher than the rest
Whatโs the code for him
@summer cedar thanks. Currently I am stuck on the above stage, but I will try and get some RNG with that line up to see if that proves successful.
@summer cedar how do I get my free wu Kong, I know you get him from sharing but I donโt have Facebook
u hit the share button a few times. u don't even have to actually share it, or need an fb
When you pull heroes elite or so
Gothca mkay thabks
Now i might think i just need to wait for some other things, but if anyone have any ideas iโm open for anything honestly
u don't want daimon tanking athalia, cuz str hero have godawful dodge stats. preferably a high dodge hero, meaning mage/agi w gear, or rowan brutus bc of skills. I might swap rowan and daimon. otherwise daimon luci ainz rowan brutus
I need help to get to stage 27
Everybody get oneshot one by one :/ Guess iโll play the afk part for now
@tawny seal @tawny seal maybe rowan up and lyca down Frontline, and maybe replace ferael with safiya
@brave oriole I feel like I might just be a tad under level lol
lvl doesn't matter as much as SI and gear. if you had 30 rowan/eironn and 20 lyca, w gear, this stage is passable at lvl 265. since you don't, I can't offer any advice
currently stuck again at 9-12, would like to try getting a bit further as long as i still got Mortas
I tried moving everyone around, switching gear, upgrading it etc.
luci hogan mortas/rosa rowan mirael I think. put hogan in crystal
Isnt Ainz stronger than mirael?
@summer cedar yeah Rowan is Si 27, Eironn is 22 and Lyca is 10 and I been saving the 11-20 emblems so I can probably get her near 20
from lvl 100-160, most ppl agree mirael is better. since I haven't played w ainz at that lvl (obv he didnt exist when I was at ur lvl) I couldn't personally say, so I'm going w mirael. try ainz if u want to, same formation
alrighty, will give it a try
Recommendations?
@tawny seal atm, you could be chap 28 or so already
Purple talene is virtually unplayable next to 4 Asc. Show box for better advice
Yeeeah, that was a disaster xD I think i mightve hit a point were im just gonna be stuck for a few days
Any suggestions?
Try albedo skreg ainz rowan daimon. Admittedly i havent played much w either dim yet so this is educated guessing
@brave oriole what do you mean
Will try ๐
he means w the SI and gear I mentioned, that lineup can push beyond 100+ lvl deficit, meaning chs 28/9 even if u didnt lvl up any further
@tawny seal I mean, underlvl, it's yeah 100lvls+/-
Ahhhh ok got it
@summer cedar got daimon 240 and switched up the team a bit. After a few retries i got it! Appreciate the assistance
ofc ๐
I'm pretty new to the game and have only read about wanting to use Wilder and Lightbearer supports - Where do Silas and Mortas stand in comparison to the other supports?
can someone please help me I'm stuck
Please help
u might get better answers in #classic-questions. rowan rosa tasi lyca arden are still top tier imo, and mortas does not enter that grouping.
You could try Lyca instead of the graveborn
hogan wu tasi arden lyca at a quick glance. daimon doesn't shine till 160 onwards afaik
Thank you!
That's what I've been trying most of the time
halp
Have you tried flora instead of saeves? Or the new trial hero?
swap in rowan where belinda is and brutus where tidus is. give it a few spins
But wu dies too quickly
move arden to 5 then. if that doesnt work I need to see more of ur box
here's the rest of my box @summer cedar I've got an open crystal slot btw
yes, couldnt get anything out of it
sav bel and shem are all dps carries. u only need 1 per team as a rule of thumb. saveas is the strongest of the 3 prior to 161, so try estrilda luci arden rowan saveas
thank you! will try that
try swapping wu and hogan then, and if u have an artifact (I think u might have grace that early) put it on wu. arden at 3.
All but Lucius is currently 120, I need a second Lucius to get him up there
saveas is not a frontliner unless over leveled. stop building L heroes. try luci grezhul arden rowan saveas
team gets rekt pretty easily
it's cuz saveas is supposed to be 20-40 lvls higher than ev1 else, so his dmg output+regen keeps u above water even tho ev1 dies. might wanna read pins in #classic-questions for some good early game advice
That helped but it isn't quite enough because the silvina keeps sniping my tasi
sorry im new ish to the game
Bob who should I prioritize leveling?
yeah that's the idea, but u also lack a 2nd viable tank, so I just said estrilda cuz there's not a better options currently available. now that sav is over leveled u can play around and try sav luci arden rowan tasi- the key being sav's stats are so much higher than ev1 else now he is a pseudo-tank
i see, thank you
How do I beat this stage, my Twins die too fast, tried everything
take saveas to 160 if possible. read the pins in #classic-questions
What the heck do I do
if anything try swapping it. grez luci arden rowan sav
- stop building L heroes. 2. I need to see full box for best help. 3. You lack supports/cc
Everyone says that I lack support but when I put supports it is slaughterfest
Supports dont do crap for me
if you're gonna ignore advice that's ur prerogative. I have nothing to say to you if you don't want to hear it
try thane golus arden mirael nemora. unfortunately u lack the greatest support in the game that is rowan, and u also lack lyca/tasi who are top tier as well. not all supports are created equal
Hey everyone, I'm new to the game. I'm on chapter 8 and was wondering what the best possible lineup for me would be. I don't know much about the game at all. Here's a screenshot any help is appreciated ๐
wu and nara aren't really playable at purple when rest of team is red. try izld antandra belinda rowan arden- put rowan and arden in crystal as they're amazing
@summer cedar did u see what happened to my peeps
it happens. I'm giving you the best advice I can give based on ur roster. optimally u want better tanks than the ones u have, but you don't, so I'm forced to make educated guesses. it is what it is
ideas?
rosa follows...?
gwyn of course
Okai thank you, ill put arden in tomorrow as for rowan i took a past screenshot he's already in the crystal and actually helped me pass some of the previous lvl
Which one does fawkes put in his coffin?
I'd move rosa to 3, run izold/thoran at 1, bc as is rosa retreats and I'm assuming gwyn is losing her (no enemies near her) dmg/crit buff
Arden
Thane
Mirael
Kelthur
Tidus
maybe? I was recently stuck on that stage too
my rosa ain't dying if I don't put her 5 and if I put her 5 is a matter of rng if he dodges the athalia or not
i do not tink i can run thoran izold because of the power cap
if u have good dodge gear, try lyca 1 and rosa 3 then. mortas is a little underwhelming afaik
I would probably try to use lyca and fawkes then, and put gwyneth in the middle
read the pins in #classic-questions for good advice on ur question
I can do this team not with those positions but I can swap it around
this team won't work, u can't drop ur carry in gwyn
arthur fera gwyn rowan rosa might be the best comp u can run, assuming not power capped.
try brutus belinda lyca rowan estrilda/nemora. kinda wish u had arden tho
They get picked off really quickly and barely deal any damage
you don't have a strong tank in ur box. that's the best lineup I can give you- just retry or afk for while
I've been told I don't utilize the wishlist well- thanks for the help anyways
maybe you could try brutus daimon belinda rowan lyca. maybe, but I personally think it's a little worse
How do you beat this? - The Abysmal Delves.
It got farther than the first comp, but still around the same success rate as my original comp, thanks again tho
on peaks my advice is always turn off auto near the end of the battle so u stock up and burst the next enemy, repeat. so shem team does rly well w this- shem luci rosa rowan and a 5th maybe tasi. shem ults twice and screen is essentially wiped- auto off and 5 kills restores shem to max for next battle
any help with this
on peaks/voyages my advice is always turn off auto near the end of the battle so u stock up and burst the next enemy, repeat. so shem team does rly well w this- shem luci rosa rowan and a 5th maybe arden. shem ults twice and screen is essentially wiped- auto off and 5 kills restores shem to max for next battle
can I run something else instead of fera
@charred wyvern I dunno if Gwyneth can handle this, but well, Brutus would help vs athalia
brutus prolly falls under power req
who would help round out this team? currently i have a backline of ainz and rowan and a frontline of lucius and grezhul. currently at chapter 14 but just trying to improve my lineup a little bit, preferably would have a mauler character as the last one so i can get upgrades faster
thinking i probably need someone with good single target damage but im not sure which mauler is best for that
Any lineups for the gold task of stage 10 in the misty valley? Kill the 3 backline heroes first
Is it possible to beat this stage with this team?
Suggested lineups seem to die quick, please help.
here needing help again
yes i can, i have passed every boss from conquest and floor from tower with other people formations without issues
can someone help to beat this and see what lineup is better?
it sounds like ainz is the carry. so u don't need another dmg dealer. I prefer brutus for tanking over grezhul, and even at E brutus works rather well. for the 5th, run another support, like arden/lyca/tasi/rosa
read the pins in #classic-questions for advice there
Been at this for 3 hours. Can anybody help D:
4 tanks don't do you any favors- they prolly get blasted by aoe and are less than the sum of their parts. try brutus luci ainz rosa tasi maybe
Need help with highburn stronghold. What lineup do I run?
Tasi is sl to Ainz.
then throw arden in crystal, place him at 5. u generally don't want to link to units that see a lot of usage, and tasi is a top tier support. also stop building L heroes
L heroes?
legendary. L+ is Legend+ like ur gorvo. read the pins in #classic-questions for further details but tldr ur hurting ur longterm progress badly
And I just did that to get his weapon. Is that not worth?
@foggy grove Generally you'd probably be better served with multiple comps instead of just 1, but probably Talene + Saurus + Rowan could form a core that could sustain through the immunity etc assuming you're running those challenges (Though Ezio can be used to ignore the immunity)
Going to ask because I want to get c16 ASAP, any ideas on what to do?
@stiff stirrup You could try see if Daimon can survive on the frontline instead of Thoran, in which case you can run Arden/Tasi backline for more CC
@stiff stirrup normally u use fawkes to deal with shemira
Any ideas on how I can beat this?
@stiff stirrup You could try see if Daimon can survive on the frontline instead of Thoran, in which case you can run Arden/Tasi backline for more CC
@cerulean hamlet hasnโt helped but cheers ๐
@pseudo hill
Assuming Silvina jumps Rosaline, you could try move Rosa middle and Arden bottom and see how that goes if she can survive?
If not, see if Tasi can manage that and survive to ult which would probably be the best given current box
my team gets wiped in around 0.1 seconds ๐
i also cant change heroes as i would be power capped
Considering you'd likely be powercapped if you switched, your best bet is probably moving Tasi to frontline and Rowan to back mid, Ferael fear does not have a range so his position will just be RNG anyways
tasi gets deleted at frontline though
It worked!
Nice ๐
like, literally anyone i put at frontline gets deleted
Yeah, that's the issue, though if you could manage to get to ult and survive with her blink it might be enough, you're honestly relying on dodge and RNG to not get crit at that point though
she doesnt even need to be crit and she still dies instantly lmfao
hmm, maybe im just stuck D;
everyone is stuck in this game
Well, considering you're almost three times below the power of that stage that's not out of the question xD
Since you can't take a hit you're basically hoping dodges and/or immunity can carry you I would say maybe Brutus would help but that's probably not enough power
Any suggestions? 
hmm ok RIP
Get Shemira to 220 whenever you can, otherwise, potentially see if
Tasi
- Shemira
Nemora - Lucius
Lyca
Can survive long enough if your current comp can't, you can swap positions of Shem and Lucius to try get them live long enough, but you're hoping for Nem to charm Ferael
Is using all hypogeans viable in end game?
Any tips guys? Really struggling
Will try it. It's not Ferael that gets charmed though it's always only Niru and Tasi only banishes The other Shemira
Not particularly, they don't really have enough sustain on their own, but a heavy Cele + Hypogean team can do okay
If Nemora is placed in the middle the Ferael is in range, you just need to get lucky enough x)
mhmm, like 3 celestials and 2 hypgeans? or 4-1?
It's more a question of which heroes than number, since something like Twins - Talene - Ezizh - (Rowan) - Mehira is an example of a comp like that
Yeah I'll just keep trying that. If it doesn't work I'll just wait until I have enough dust to level Shem up. Thanks ๐
mhmm, I just really like Lucretia and want to build a comp around her, she seems able to dish out some dps but also have decent lifesteal
You probably want to ditch Nemora in favor or someone like Rowan/Tasi/Some support as enemy team has Lyca + Arden so your nemora won't be able to charm him in time and you shouldn't need her heals
okay will give it a go
Right, Lucretia fills a similar role to Mehira (though without her team utility) so would work in a similar shell - mostly because she needs to survive to ult so haste + heals from the rest of the team will let her get to that point where she carries you
Sweet! Thank you @cerulean hamlet! But just so I don't mess it up, my end game comp should be (with lucretia): Twins, Talene, Ezizh, Rowan and Lucretia (instead of Mehira)?
Well, something along those lines, not necessarily that exact comp, but do keep in mind celepogeans are very investment heavy and rare so it will take a long time to build that if you don't spend money on stargazing etc
Can I get lineup help
Something lower invest would just be along the lines of Lucretia + some supports and maybe a tank/secondary carry
What would be a decent lineup for the heroes I have?
Could you post the rest of your lineup too?
Though - Ainz is not a frontliner, if you plan to use him you should have him on the backline + probably remove Ankhira in favor of Mortas too
The rest depends on what other support heroes you have
I'm currently using a mashup, but it's Lucretia, Mirael, Lucius, Belinda and Estrilda
And I will not have mortas for ever. Help
A decent lineup for the heroes you have will be something like Arden (build him) + Nemora + Wukong (replace with someone like Saveas if you can build him, maybe Nemora or Mirael oo) + Hogan probably
Any ideas?
Mortas (once he expires you can replace him with another support like Rosaline/Arden etc depending on who you pull in the future)
- Wukong
Lyca - Estrilda
Ira
Hogan trash were im at he can not tank 1 thing lol
Hogan is a good early game tank if you can manage to ascend him and he's future proof as he becomes fodder later
He was max l+ and he whole always die frist
Try something like
Lyca
- Eironn
Rowan - Tasi
Ferael
Just need some decent RNG and it should work well at your level
I got a 2 out of 10 rng in my opinion
I need aniz cause when I use him I'm pretty lucky cause when bucks he will kill all of them
In that case, replace Ira with Ainz, in either case something like that is the best given your box and Wukong is still strong enough to be a primary carry for a bit more
That's... why you'd replace Ira with Ainz
5times worse
Any suggestions?
@halcyon kettle the pins in #classic-questions will solve your problem.
Cultivating my Zolrath for burst. Is Zol/Eironn/Lyca/Lorsan/Gwen still the most popular version?
Looking for help with my legends teams, anyone Wana help me make 3 beast teams?
Someone can help build a good formation?
Pump all your xp into Saveas and donโt care about anyone else on the team
@dark olive pre-lvl 100 you should get the free wukong and max lvl him, that'll push you a few chapters then you start ascending fodder, look at the pins in #classic-questions that'll help you.
Is This formation good?
Is pippa worth the build?
why i canโt press exchange?
exchange begins in 17d and ends in 24d. read both timers
messed up earlier and leveled Lucian and Lyca to Legendary. What steps should I take at this point for my main 5?
move rowan to 4. is what it is. cycle lyca/arden for 5
This battle makes me sad
It's between Ezizh denying anyone from ults and Numisu healing everyone
is saveas or mirael better as a carry?
You only need to level 5 heroes at a time. And over-level your carry above the rest. Get your free Wukong. Finally, read the pins on #classic-questions. Your current team is not bad per se but at lvl 100-160, the focus should be on L tier heroes.
Each has their own merits. That being said, if you have Rosa, her ult+Mirael is a deadly combo.
nara isn't a frontliner >99% of the time, plus she's purple so she's paper defensively. try saurus skreg lyca rowan daimon
@summer cedar I didn't mean to put her there, that was just me messing around my formation before giving up lol
Any advice?
how to deal with this last stage in lab? ainz albedo
guys I need help with this
need some help figuring this one out boyos
Saurus dies almost immediately becauss of ult denial and everyone else follows suit
sry, i dont see a solution for u. i beat it w shem (3f) and w eir/saf. maybe try eironn merc, play him at 4
Any help? My team just gets destroyed before any ult can be popped
Any advice for best formation of my hero ? Which one should i focused first
@carmine flower Albedo, Orthos, Mortas, Saf, Ezizh
Ok, thanks @warm swan
Np
Got lucky and pulled a few new heroes, curious if I can improve my general lineup. Can shuffle some people around in Resonate if need be.
That's an interesting line-up you got. I don't know how Tidus and Satrana performs at low level. Can they kill Isa before she bursts them down? @hard river
Who is Isa again-?
Isabella, mid on your enemy comp
no. the vampire person kills everyone right after tidus dies
well- i think so actually.
yeah, no
it depends- omg
Ah that's a expected. You need tanks. And pick one carry and overlevel him/her. You just wasted fodder for Tidus and Satrana which could've made a solid Golus.
oops- tidus and satrana was good at times. oh well-
I have been busting my but the past day or so trying to beat this. Its in trial idk if i can ask for help but i cant beat it no matter what i do.
That is usually the case, short burst of progress, long term blockage. Have you at least read the Beginner's Guide
Rowan to get a head start on his SI
Albedo, Orthos, Mortas, Saf, Ezizh @polar kernel
no, i dont think so haha. i didnt know what i was doing at the beginning
Might want to check it up then, so you avoid repeating the same issues. It's pinned on #classic-questions
@warm swan should i get rid of him and add someone else then?
I need lineup help
You could but the next question will be who will you replace them with? 
Can someone help me put together a decent team? Also who should I be focusing on?
That's why I recommended reading the guide first. You will start with ironing your wishlist first. Then to team building. Also, have you claimed your free Wu?
no, i cant share cuz it says i need to do something that i do and it doesnt work
Wait, lemme find the guide on that. Brb.
Here, https://afk.guide/wu-kong-event/
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/f8orxw/for_those_who_cant_figure_out_how_to_share/
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just got him, thank you. should i replace him with wu??
if anyone needs it i used this for the 15s battle in misty valley
need help plz
u dont have rosaline do u?
Can I please get some help on this? I get whiped so quick
no i donโt
try
tasi flora
silas daimon safiya
and pray XD
Nah, you're way past using him. He's good till lvl 100 and only comes back in late chapters. Since you already got an L+ Mirael, I would suggest building around her. Mira+Rosa combo is amazing, as long as you got the proper frontline.
okie
Got lucky and pulled a few new heroes, curious if I can improve my general lineup. Can shuffle some people around in Resonate if need be.
ty!
let me know if u managed
yes i did ty :))
with that formation?? srly?? damn XD
@worthy bane please. For the love of all. Can you answer my question or have I been muted?
still need help here...yes i know my hero box is garbage, please dont judge
also @undone trench have you checked pins in here and #classic-questions
Yes I check the pins here, and asked the same question here twice before going to #classic-questions and finally got a response an hour+ later.
I don't understand people constantly suggesting checking the pins. They aren't up to date, I have better luck on YouTube or Google finding answers then actually using the pins for more then the most limited reference.
@warm swan thank you!
Thoughts?
lyca+20 and eironn+30 w good acc/dodge gear makes/breaks the top lineup. idk enough ab the second lineup but i can only assume gwyn needs +20
THATS THE SAME ONE IM STUCK ON LMAO
It's so bad haha, I get cleared so fast
YEAH MY AINZ IS AT ASCENDED AND HE sTILL DIES IN LIKE TEN SECONDS BC MY FRONTLINES GETS DISINTEGRATED
ะะพะณะพ ะฒ ะฟะฐัะบั?
i can kill grezhul almost every time but the rest of the enemies just pummels daimon
I have tried all combinations of farael/safia, Rowan, talene/tasi, lyca, eironn
Please help
Can I win or have I hit a wall?
Switch Lyca to Gwyn and Arthur with Albedo, u don't want Atha to jump on Gwyn
Ill try one sec, not even close ๐ฆ
Hi, anyone can help me? Plz
Help pls
I'm pretty sure others have given you the same advice, but stop ascending heroes to Legendary if you can't ascend them to Legendary+ immediately
im new on this game, anyone can help me on a good comp? im starting now and planning on reroll..
Just look at the guide in the pins found in #classic-questions
Iโm stuck on this stage should I change my formation or use different heroโs Iโve been stuck here for ever
check pins in #classic-questions
If i were to stargaze, should i get more twins to ascend it from mythic to ascended? Or should i get mehira(or ezizh) and replace albedo (or ainz)?
well ainz albedo are a pretty perfect pairing so they should probably stay on the team, and there's no harm in ascending twins
but this is a #classic-questions question not for here so ask them over there from now on, this is only for lineups @mint turret
Could you help me out
you have 3 carries on your team; you generally want to stick to one
Which ones are carries
ainz, izold and eironn
Ok
usually it's 1 carry + 1 tank + 3 supports
Which one do you recommend I keep and which supports should I use
with rowan being the best support basically
depends... can you stall enough for ainz to ult? if not either get izold to 3/9f and +30 or try and ascend eironn further
What is 3/9f
3/9 furniture
What stage do I unlock furniture
Ty โค๏ธ
ch18 with an ascended hero I think?
so... you might want to explore some other options, you can ask in #classic-questions for some ideas of carries since I'm not wholly sure who else you could use
the only carry there is the ones I've already mentioned, solise is a very meh carry
Is your wishlist good Franklin ?
you've ascended a lot of stuff to l instead of l+ which isn't great, that fodder could've been used for your carry
Idk
Rigby is deff a waste of fodder
Well I canโt fix it do you have any suggestions of what I should I do from here
What chapter you on? How come only one copy of Belinda seems strange
this is really turning into a #classic-questions question so ask it there @pale kettle
You can update wishlist anytime you want the sooner the better
Ok Iโm on chapter 14
.
Try putting Belinda on the resonating crystal and replace Saveas/Arden with her. She can be really good
i was told the opposite @pale monolith
You will soon can't level up Arden and Saveas because their max ascension is Legendary+ so their max lvl is 140. I suggest replacing them and also try Belinda, her Ultimates deal lots of damage and in most cases almost take out multiple enemies if they are stacked
Maybe for one level but that's not a permanent line-up
Also if she's not good why did you ascend her to L
I was using her
Some guy told me to change her for a diffrent lineup
my old one
Well Bob was wrong,it looks pretty good but idk if Tasi works, maybe it works for you. Also a good tank can be Thoran but he doesn't deal damage
You can keep him a little longer,in rest if Tasi works you line-up is alright
okay
need help please
Daimon, Lucius, Belinda, Safyia, Tasi/Flora/Shemira
help pls
what kind of lineup should i build for campaign quests?
Need help on 13-39. Is it still completeable or am i too underleveled? I can raise lucius or rosa to L+ or rowan to L if needed.
Ofc u can u have ascended belinda
Hung up on 9-8, any tips for my set up?
Its been a week, should I do it?
Any tips for this one? Can't find the right comp
Try putting daimon backrow
Swap with brutus?
Yeah
@cold cosmos I dunno, but put eironn middle and tasi front, so he would pull the silvinas, or, tasi rowan front
They still stomp me, guess I'll have to wait for ascensions :(
@brave oriole its a joke lol look at the levels
How are u so far ahead of the stage level lol
Oh well, you. Should have posted it on off topic @cold cosmos
Oh sorry abt that didnt know theres one here
@pale kettle backrow shem? Swap her with rowan
put arden or fawkes instead of lyca
donโt even know if itโs possible
@pale kettle put Rosa front of shem, but you may need a safiya instead of lyca, so rowan survives
k then do
- Rosa
- Lucius
- Fawkes
- Shem
- Rowan
Hi this is the voyage last battle, im having difficulties with it
@pulsar root try classic shem comp, followed by rosaline
@runic rover get mirael to L+ and use her as carry, switch out lucretia and gwyn, also add Lyca/tasi/arden depending on lineup
o.o ok
Any tips on this am still using talyn coz she only can heal rowan idk what is a better option she is only E
Daimon just a monster
She's too squishy.. And either the upper or bottom flank always fall apart and destroy my team. Can't seem to do anything even after trying every support combo.. Should i ascend one of my lightbearers?
What team should I build
@halcyon kettle I know it has been repeated several times on this channel, but please, read the pins on #classic-questions. Most of your questions are gonna be answered by reading that guide. From your team, to leveling your carry, to your wishlist.
i answered him @warm swan
ye ty
Nice. And 1 addtl tip, Daimon is a great carry later on, when properly invested in. Like, monster.
- Talene
- Brutus
- Thoran or Ferael
- Rowan
- Daimon
@halcyon kettle he totally is, i dont even understand why he deals so much fcking dmg XD
he just rips the enemy of their stats, ofc he's gonna do that much dmg
steal their stats + hp
invest in him? like lvl?
ik but sometimes he does sht and suddenly u see him 1v5 like a mad"kid" XD
its rng with his blood shield whether the enemy had died when it was active or not
He is definetly son of Shemira :^)
yeah he means lvling, furniture and signature item
ah
good ol ch 18 shemira carry
how dare u sarcasm that! shemira is great
Im not , I have lv30 SI , 3/3 Shemira with 5* :^)

cute
hot
disgusting
oh boy 9/9 , I did focus on my talene first 9/9

i mean, here's the thing, i 9/9 her BEFORE i understood furniture XD
@rigid birch hotter
we better talk in afk arena chat doe , here is line up help
otherwise yes, i would've 9/9 talene cuz talene has her picture in the definition of BSHT
working on it, i still have 3 stars and 4 si levels to go ๐ค
u cant talk in there with so many people XD
I just said because it might be off topic here (rules etc)
I don't wanna spoil the flexing and I'm no mod, but yeah he's got a point
Still ..any ideas?
@stone holly You can @ them so your messages get highlighted
ik he does, so, done ๐
@cold cosmos I'll send you formation with DM
dear god belinda over rosaline, kill me now XD
Are you running Gwyneth comp or Eironn comp? Gwyn wants ppl farther away and Eironn is dragging them in.
Gwyn
Might consider swapping out Eironn for Estrilda
Lyca might be better than talene also
Shem ults too fast
Have you tried putting Gwyneth opposite Shemira?
Does spider lady web gwen?
Any advice for this one?
@cold cosmos sorry was afk for a minute the real problem is saifya just blowing up everyone atm
@rigid birch it was ferael not thoran, ty made it
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Is this lineup okay for general use or who should I replace? Looking to replace talene because she is becoming too weak too fast but idk what other support to put in the front line.
ainz + albedo got their comp alrdy??
Why does no one usw this channel it seems sigh
Plenty still do. It's just that it's hard to give a straight answer when there's too many variables to take in. Take your question for example. Your line-up would depend not only on what you have, but also what's on the enemy comp.
That's why I said in general use, not specific. I don't need a perfect comp, just heroes that do well or work well together.
My initial statement still stands. Work well for what? Healing? Prolly yes. Stalling? No. Cc? No.
You might want to switch to Tasi or Arden on some stages to cc Vedan. On some, maybe Brutus or Albedo just for tanking. Maybe Lyca will be needed for the haste boost. Or Nara or Silvina to isolate that lone Mirael.
I dont know what to do support heros dont work they just end up dying I do have rowan but he is lvl 1 and only an elite
@minor totem the thing about this game is general use doesn't really exist. Early on you'll mostly use what you built + a few flex units. But when you get hard walled you'll typically have to wait. A lot of the time you'll just have to change the position of your units to get past the stage.
@frank bloom what other epic units did you have
so, i finally got arthur from the lab store, who should i fuse him with? had some people tell me shemira while i was still waiting on the last store reset but gonna ask again just in case. Also while i'm here i'm also gonna ask some advice on team building since i've been playing for a while but never looked into guides about the Dos and Don'ts of it (i've basically been waiting for mythic gear since they started dropping and because of this i'm a bit over leveled compared to my map progress)
@hot bison you're extremely overleveled for your total level but that's okay you'll push easily. Yeah shemira would probably be the best link, but I don't see gwyn which is the main reason why you build arthur.
ah, so i should focus gwyn next? guessing including signiature item after i finish rowan's? he's currently at 27
The biggest don't i personally see is that you're using both shem and belinda in the same party
In terms of si items gwyn to 20 is fine if you're going to invest in that comp but eironn should be your next priority.
Since you have a fully built shem you'd be better off subbing out belinda for rosaline even if she's L+ or even just throwing in tasi for more cc.
i'm just gonna need 2 copies of both eironn and gwyn and fodder to take em to ascended, also how would that comp look like or how should i search for a guide or something on it
Something like
The core -
Lyca/ferael/rowan
Estrilda/hendrick
Gwyn
Arthur
Rosaline
This image is a great reference
any recommendations for dismal mode lab comp?
I just recently downloaded the game but it seems I'm stuck at an early stage, at a world 4 boss. I've been following the guide that I should focus the exp on Mirael, but she dies easily. Should I still pour exp on her?
Yes, you need to keep investing in your primary carry for them to work, early game might be fairly slow but as long as you keep her at the max level you can that'll be the most efficient allocation of your resources
It'd depend on what heroes you have + curse/limitations (not sure if this is shared for all) so a post of what you have + what you can use would help
What's a curse
If you look at the menu of the dismal maze "dismal luck" are curses, though I suppose what's more relevant is the restricted factions
Any ideas on how I can beat this?
Potentially locking down the Arden before he can CC your team might be helpful, I'd say Nemora could work but Silvina is probably going to destroy him so maybe:
Tasi
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Arden
Hopefully she jumps Tasi and he survives but maybe Rowan would be better than Tasi if Arden could live
If you look at the menu of the dismal maze "dismal luck" are curses, though I suppose what's more relevant is the restricted factions
@cerulean hamlet I can't find where to look for those. Also should I use full fodder heroes on my team for early game?
@cerulean hamlet ty, Iโll give it a go
You probably haven't gotten to chapter 26 yet so that lab mode isn't unlocked for you yet. As for your team, not necessarily all fodder heroes but at least ascend 4-5 of them for the crystal (take a look at the pins in #classic-questions )
@cerulean hamlet doesnโt seem like itโs gonna happen
Mh, in that case (assuming neither variation works) you could 1- try brute force through the enemy CC with healing through Rowan and some CC with fawkes instead of Lyca like your initial comp
@pseudo hill try to add Rosa, so rowan will survive
@cerulean hamlet still no luck. May just be because Iโm under levelled
Currently I don't think I win this on my alt yet. What u guys think?
Maybe with a few hours maybe not
@amber halo looks easy
Ferael is the problem i coffin shemira
I would try
Lucius call
Rosa
Nemora
Shem
Rowan
You dont need to coffin, just charm ferael
My nemora got no mythic gear but sure I can try tho i think she just get 1 shot
Cannot be, Backline. She will charm just fine
If she does not have mythic boots you'll need Lyca to make sure her charm goes off before he fears
He can just put dura's call
It loses in 4 seconds ;)
With ferael charmed?
Yup
Well, replace rowan with fawkes and give it a try
With lyca it's 10 times better and nemora ults. It Will win eventually
Maybe,cannot be that hard, the lvl gap it's small
Ferael died but still hard losing it
With what team?
Try
Arden/tasi
Shem
Nem
Brutus
Lyca
Even at low ascension they work
Oh thats a merc brutus.
No they don't work at e+
Need some help in dismal lab
Try then with shem up and Rosa Lucius back down. But Lucius need dura's call for fast shield
Trust me they do if arden gets the root and nem gets the charm off is works. I pushed through 20 with that formation, dont know abt that luc tho but 160 brutus seems bad @amber halo
So u cleared it?
This won. Not with rosa @brave oriole
@amber halo yeah, well it's hard to tell an exact win team, there's gear ascensions and other factors, so only you can adjust
Yeah
what heroes would you guys recommend to run with fawkes/tasi/ferael on the backline?
Ideas? Double Estrilda just stunlocks to hell
can anyone help me with this, iโve been trying to beat this for 5 days
@heady stump get a Saurus +30 merc or rowan
Any idea how I can pass this stage. I end up 1v3 Vedan and he just slowly kills my team.
Anyone has lb 261?
Thx
I expected something more like overlevelled @outer notch
Can anyone help with lineup canโt get passed 10-19
Why would I say that? 
help in trials of god please
Any suggestions
Your current comp does not really have enough damage potentially to do this before time runs out. Maybe see if Eironn over Lyca potentially changes anything, alt I think I used a Gwyn comp for that