lineup-help

[rugged bane]

Ferael is a pain, so is Golus

[spiral finch]

Any tips? Stuck here :(

[summer cedar]

try belinda luci rosa rowan lyca. not a perfect lineup mind you but it could work. if rosa doesnt ult, use tasi instead at the 5, and lyca at the 3

[trim cypress]

Any tips pls

[spiral finch]

So that's front line Belinda and Luci right? No luck on either case :( might be under leveled

[royal thorn]

@summer cedar I tried this team u told me to. Lucius sometimes gets his ult off, but daimon just can’t survive that shemira ult

[summer cedar]

Imma be real honest I'm not a daimon expert. and it looks like ur nearly at powercap anyway. i do wonder how luci daimon lyca rowan nemora/rosa works, but it still seems rather difficult

[summer cedar]

follow pins in #classic-questions as best u can. it's better advice than I can give u rn

[opal holly]

I'm somewhat of an F2P, only having purchased Ainz for the 1 time discount. I want to build a Stall Comp. I read online that Ferael is good in Stall Comps and I'm in love with Tasi for Ainz. Can anyone offer advice?

[chrome halo]

Should I make either of em leg?

Current lineup

[narrow lark]

Been stuck here for a bit. Any suggestions?

[random elm]

Hi all, just started not too long ago. Can you guys give me a hint of I'm going the right direction? I'm stuck on 8-12. Saveas is my current carry, and I pair him with Lyca, Tasi, Wu/Lucretia, Hogan

[narrow lark]

I wouldnt make any Legendary heroes if you cant make them L+

[summer cedar]

ur doing quite well! but I'd remove wu and swap in rowan at position 4
@narrow lark it's a fodder-tier hero- it's fine bc it's so easy to get copies for it

[narrow lark]

That's true

[random elm]

@summer cedar thank you!

[narrow lark]

You only need to level up 5 heroes as well, the rest can be put into the Crystal

[random elm]

Good point!

[narrow lark]

👍

[random elm]

Something like that? Not sure who else would go front with Hogan

Lyca would get destroyed but she'll at least give my team haste

[pale kettle]

Been stuck on this one for about two days now. Any advice on the best lineup to use? I feel like I should be able to beat it.

[summer cedar]

hogan in front of saveas if anything. saveas is the one that needs to stay up, not tasi
I would put arden in the crystal tho, and put him in for tasi

[random elm]

Oh yes haha, good point

[summer cedar]

who does tasi banish?

[pale kettle]

@summer cedar Shemira

[twin hound]

Is there a better way to do this?

[summer cedar]

luci shem lyca nemora rowan. retry it several times, hopefully nemora charms fera

[opal holly]

I'm considering Ferael because he's supposed to be good in stall comps. Currently stuck here.

[graceful spruce]

Top five are my current team, any alterations?

[summer cedar]

who does tasi banish?

[opal holly]

Just ran 10 tests to see and she's only banished Khasos ONCE.

[summer cedar]

conclusion- drop her. arden or lyca instead- if arden doesn't root, then absolutely lyca

[brave oriole]

not a chance

you should just use Belinda, ainz it's not wow, not now

[hollow dust]

Currently stuck here. Not sure what to do. I've tried switching in Arthur and Daimon but I get destroyed

[pale kettle]

@summer cedar Gave it about 50 runs and no luck, even when Nemora would banish Fera. Guess I just need some more levels. Thanks for the help though I def got closer

[brave oriole]

@hollow dust you need Brutus and daimon

[summer cedar]

I sometimes messed around against fera's and put call on shem. it's gimmicky, but if you're desperate then why not

[brave oriole]

just make sure that saveas is hitting Brutus @hollow dust

[hoary folio]

Can someone give me a good comp, that would work under good rng

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle try
fawk
shem
rowan
rosa
Lucius call

@hoary folio yeah sure Brutus vs Thane, eironn middle, put some. safiya there and ferael, win

[royal thorn]

@summer cedar Seems like nothing is working on this stage. Do you think it’s just a matter of waiting for something to increase power?

Since im near powercap and all

[summer cedar]

I'd rather u replied now I have to scroll to figure out what I was talking about

[keen delta]

Any lineup for new trial? I’ve been trying Saurus Tasi Rowan Ezizh Twins but battles just time out.

[royal thorn]

Srry forgot, i’m this one

[brave oriole]

@royal thorn isn't rowan dying?

[royal thorn]

Yes she is

[brave oriole]

try to add Rosa so rowan will stay alive, maybe front of Lucius

[royal thorn]

Switch out who?

[brave oriole]

lyca I guess

[royal thorn]

That seems to work a bit worse, im afraid

[brave oriole]

maybe put some def artifact on Rosa, better shoes

and also you can use call once or 2x?

[royal thorn]

Now rowan survives, but daimon dies a lot faster

[brave oriole]

try rowan front of daimon for a sec

[summer cedar]

ur near powercap and u don't have the optimal heroes for a daimon comp. like we could spend a ton of time micromanaging every little thing and might beat it, but perhaps it's better to simply wait

[brave oriole]

I would buy a. lot of dust everyday, for 240 carry

[royal thorn]

That’s what i’m trying to do, but 30k dust doesn’t come around quick

[brave oriole]

notvery, but you can speed up it a lot, do you refresh the shop and the quests?

[royal thorn]

Not the shop, quests only sometimes

[summer cedar]

no, no it does not. but you'll hit walls in this game as do we all. no shame in that

[brave oriole]

@royal thorn this is very bad then

you can get up to 4k more everyday for a few diamonds

deppends of your luck ofc, but still better to. wait one month than 3

[royal thorn]

True

[brave oriole]

so refreshing twice the shop, it's a big deal, for dust with gold and Poe, trust me

costs you 2x 100 diamonds but rlly worth

[fallen flame]

if anyone is having trouble with the Mortas Trials, these were the lineups I used for everything. (I started at the right, and then went counter clockwise.

just for some general help because people are bound ask it :p

[brave oriole]

I haven't tried yet the trial, but if you google it, you will find the perfect setups

[fallen flame]

probably

[summer cedar]

sorry to burst ur bubble, and I'm glad ur thinking of others, but the trial lineups were up roughly 2 hours ago

[fallen flame]

oh idk how long the trials were released ago

[mild geyser]

they were up 2 days ago im pretty sure

[brave oriole]

on live server, on test it was a few days ago

[fallen flame]

ah I see I’ve been playing too much half life

[summer cedar]

... not sure why it took till today for a post on #classic-tv then. whatever

[royal thorn]

What would be the heroes to look for in a daimon comp? I have invested pretty heavily in daimon, so i’d want to optimize his usage.

[brave oriole]

usually, tanks

[summer cedar]

nara and ferael are big backline. and solid tanks in front, which unfortunately is not lucius anymore

[brave oriole]

can't name any tank better than Lucius until later, but well, who knows

[royal thorn]

Im a few fodder heroes away from lucius ascended. Should i save for anyone else or go for it? Not really any other lb’s close to enough copies yet

[brave oriole]

well, honestly, you should start working on wilders, I mean ascend rowan, then eironn lyca tasi and safiya ofc

but from. now on, you will need a lot. of dust so please invest everything in dust, refresh twice daily bounties etc

[royal thorn]

Just got eironn M yesterday, and have a couple of lyca’s. Not really lucky with the tasi tho. I did really bad early with a lot of things which im noticing now makes progression slower

[brave oriole]

got a Saurus so. and so? he's rlly good

[royal thorn]

Only pulled 3 saurus

[brave oriole]

aha, well keep em all in your wilder wishlist, but again, your issue will be soon the dust, or it is already

[royal thorn]

Im struggling a lot with food tho. That’s my biggest issue with all 4 factions tbh

[worldly parcel]

Demon lady kicks my arse halp lol

[brave oriole]

don't focus on 4 at once. take it slowly, work. on Wilders first, and ofc finish that rowan

@worldly parcel maybe Saurus rowan front, safiya eironn daimon or ferael back

[royal thorn]

Rowan i only need 2 more of for A, so im trying to get one more ascended hero for another hero choice before it resets which is in 7 days

That way i won’t have to use both on rowan next week

[pale kettle]

Finally got it with this set up. Big thanks @summer cedar @brave oriole for pointing me in the right direction

[summer cedar]

yw 🙂

[royal thorn]

I guess afk arena will finally show the afk aspect noe😅

[narrow lark]

Any suggestions

[brave oriole]

@narrow lark replace tasi with Nemora? if you have one

[narrow lark]

I tried it already, it's mainly the Grezhul that's the problem. I cant kill him fast enough

Also tried a couple rose comps but they didn't work out as well

[brave oriole]

aha, lyca dies insta?

[narrow lark]

Fairly fast yeah

[lucid scroll]

Is this just a level issue? Daimon gets banished and everyone dies before banish finishes no matter what hero I try.

[brave oriole]

that's bad. I dunno yet how. good ainz is early game unfortunately

[narrow lark]

All good. I'll keep shuffling things around. Usually it's a weird combo that wins it 👍

[brave oriole]

the. more tanks, the better. try Brutus

@lucid scroll not. rlly sure if there's any way of saving daimon of tasi banish. maybe to make a Backline with safiya rowan lyca, and front, daimon tasi

[royal thorn]

Just thought i might try mortas trial to buff my daimon. Sure as hell he did and daimon survived finally

[brave oriole]

😁 nice, yeah 30%def also

[royal thorn]

It all came together great

[lucid scroll]

oh ye safiya could help i guess

[brave oriole]

@lucid scroll sure thing, just lyca have to dodge and keep busy athalia

then rowan will stun, game over 😁

[empty spear]

Having a lot of trouble with this fight, the scythe guy keeps 1v3ing my last guys

[summer cedar]

try mirael brutus arden rowan lyca

[empty spear]

Alright, will do

[empty spear]

Seems much worse tbh

[amber lynx]

😟

[wet violet]

I think I’m capped 😦 hogan 1 shot lucius and turn to stun daimon

Tried swapping talene lucius as well does not work

[inland bison]

I’m stuck at 10-12 and need a push, debating resetting someone I previously leveled and go that route but not sure who to use. Any tips for me?

[summer cedar]

perhaps brutus lyca mirael rowan arden. imma be real honest it's been a while since I've been there so I may be mixing up some skills and who works at what lvl

[empty spear]

I actually just beat it with what I had before lol, just needed the good rng

[merry thunder]

Damn why did you upgrade so many people to legendary, you gotta wait till you can do L+

[summer cedar]

try dropping talene for tasi. lmk who she banishes

[inland bison]

I got lucky with rolls early. I’m less than a month in. I didn’t know better then.

[summer cedar]

shem grez rosa mortis fawkes maybe

[merry thunder]

Lol I get wiped too fast

[inland bison]

This is actually just a second account now. And I play it when I’m stuck on my main. But I’ve been stuck for a little while on this.

[summer cedar]

if it's a specific stage it'd help to see the enemies. for a general lineup, I'd use brutus luci mirael rowan tasi/lyca/arden/nemora flexible 5th

[wet violet]

@summer cedar she banished belinda but fawkes coffined her as well

[merry thunder]

I think I just have to wait to level Shem up some more

[wet violet]

@summer cedar I just swapped out fawkes and it looks like tasi didn't banish anyone?? hmmm

[trim cradle]

For the love of god someone please help me. I’ve been stuck forever [32-56-2]

[worldly parcel]

@brave oriole hey man I tried the lineups I got mehira done but there’s still 3 alive lol 😭

[summer cedar]

arden for the 5th on this stage I think. give it some tries, lmk how it goes

[trim cradle]

@pale kettle appreciate it but I got no daimon and had to merc a Thoran for first stage

[wet violet]

@summer cedar omg ur a genius I swapped fawkes for tasi + estrilda for talene and I'm almost winning

just need to hit that retry button harder

[jagged token]

Holla, guys. Is there any good tank heroes recommendations for campaign? Currently using Lucius, he's good but really struggling.

[brave oriole]

@worldly parcel you need call on eironn

[lofty cairn]

new player what should my comp look like

[vivid basalt]

Can I have some help been stuck on this level for a couple of days now everything just seems to die quickly.

[summer cedar]

try niru luci arden mirael lyca a few times

[vivid basalt]

Okay will do.

Thank you that worked!!!

[bright badge]

Anyone able to help with this?

My best of my roster.

[summer cedar]

why are u upgrading so many heroes? you're spreading ur resources too thin. u shud reset all but 5 and put the rest in the resonating crystal. go read the pins in #classic-questions for the best heroes to put in crystal
if u follow the pins, your hero pool could be lvl 120-140 by now. and then you wouldnt need any help for a while

[bright badge]

Ar first I was originally doing 5 descents per faction. Right now, I've been trying to exclusively focus on the five in formation, and not touching anyone else.

[summer cedar]

you're not listening/understanding. you're spreading your resources too thin. only FIVE heroes should ever use resources- anyone else u wanna use can be put in the resonating crystal and will AUTOMATICALLY be the same lvl as ur top 5. if u do this ur main 5 will reach 120 or 140 EASILY, but as is ur resources are spread amongst 25 heroes, which is holding u back severely

[bright badge]

I see. I kinda realized I was doing that, and then stopped midway through.

wow, looking at these guides, safiya really isn't that good? She nukes the heck out of everytthing

[pale kettle]

@bright badge it depends on where you're at in the game. Later chapters, the enemies are ridiculously tanky so nukers don't have the fire power to oneshot or even 2 shot them. Once you've reached end game, you'll be using Saf as more of a support.

[bright badge]

Ah. Well I just got Wukong from a purple stone, and read it's a good hero, so I'm waiting for a slot to open up at my crystal to put him in

[inland bison]

Finally worked out and carried me up a few thanks!!

[bright badge]

I do need another Lucius or Nemora to drop to ascend them to Legendary

[vivid harbor]

Any suggestions?

[summer cedar]

try brutus hogan ainz rowan arden. im thinking ainz doesnt even get to ult in ur current comp

[vivid harbor]

he does get to ult, bust just barely

[summer cedar]

last spot could be lyca honestly

[vivid harbor]

yea, hogan is a no go

[rugged bane]

Numisu stacks up too fast and his totems are hard to get rid of before I fail

[summer cedar]

can u post a final stats? i wanna know who does most dmg

[summer cedar]

move lyca to 3, slot in rowan at 4. give it a few tries

[summer cedar]

let's get gimmicky. brutus lyca ainz rowan arden, or lyca brutus arden rowan ainz.

[vivid harbor]

lyca gets one shot up front

[summer cedar]

I'm aware, that's why I called it gimmicky. the theory is lyca's haste still takes effect AND arden roots

since apparently hogan is getting thrashed and u dont have another tank, why not suicide a support? at least the death boosts the rest of the team

[vivid harbor]

gotcha, but while all of that does take effect, Ainz only has enough time to ult once. Which only brings down the enemy team to half hp

[summer cedar]

honestly, at ur lvl, belinda might do better, possibly. obv I didn't have an ainz when I was at ur lvl so I'm not entirely sure how good he is

[vivid harbor]

He's good, but around my current level, it takes him at least 2-3 ults to wipe the enemy team. A luxury that he doesn't always have

[summer cedar]

right, so my point is, maybe belinda can outdamage him in the same role. try swapping her in, see how it goes

[vivid harbor]

Sorry for the confusion, but I didn't voice that I was doing exactly as you suggested (I swapped Ainz out)

Slightly better results

[summer cedar]

try lyca brutus arden rowan belinda then. seems like brutus is eating an ult w his invulnerable

[open apex]

Just got Ezizh to Ascended, how should I put him in 3-team arena? Here are my current lineups and heroes

[vivid harbor]

@summer cedar

[summer cedar]

who does fawkes coffin?

[vivid harbor]

I'm not running fawkes?

[summer cedar]

u did at the start. im curious

[vivid harbor]

Khasos

[summer cedar]

more gimmicks- brutus ainz lyca rowan arden. also who's got what artifact?

[summer cedar]

swap rowan and ainz artifact

[vivid harbor]

This worked the best so far. I feel like I might be able to beat it after a few retries

@summer cedar I beat it, thank you 🙂

[summer cedar]

yw 🙂 sry it took so many tries lol

[vivid harbor]

all g. I trusted the process :DD

[rugged bane]

That's not doing anything either. Nemora and Numisu just overheal to hell together

[summer cedar]

throw in tasi for lyca. lmk who she banishes

[rugged bane]

@summer cedar Ferael

I wish I still had a merc to use but I already used it for the week on 16-40 lol

[summer cedar]

maybe something like skreg daimon tasi rowan belinda, since ur saying numisu is the problem here.

[forest cliff]

my nara is only l+ dunno if she will work

[stuck trellis]

might be able to make it work. if it cant, just use merc nara

@forest cliff uc an also skip needing a merc if you have daimon fera

[final star]

Any tips? My team goes pop pop

[rugged bane]

@summer cedar I think that's starting to do something, now everyone's surviving a bit longer together instead of just Daimon. Should I make Belinda 161 instead of Skreg?

[summer cedar]

best guess is fera is the problem. try rowan tasi eironn saf lyca

[stuck trellis]

@final star

this one u cant frontline tasi since she gets one shot by estrilda im guessing

[final star]

Yup one shot and Safi tends to be the next

[stuck trellis]

ye so u just rng with lyca in front

[final star]

Do u have full T2 gear on heroes?

[stuck trellis]

at that time i didnt
but i had t2 boots weap 5* on all agi heroes

i think i only had t2 boots (maybe weapon) on rowan, that was about it. eveyrhting else t1

[vivid harbor]

Why does lucius even exist? To be hot trash?

[stuck trellis]

pretty much

[final star]

@stuck trellis tyty

[stuck trellis]

naisu
i have SS of every stage from 28 and beyond so just ping me if u need

[final star]

:0 will do, my elder tree so shit lol

[summer cedar]

speaking of, can I have 30-26? thx

[stuck trellis]

@summer cedar

[summer cedar]

tyvm!

[stuck trellis]

np

[final star]

@stuck trellis 28-19 pls skreg too tanky

[stuck trellis]

@final star

[forest cliff]

Some help please

[thorn coral]

I can’t beat this, any tips?

[thorn coral]

You could try a team if graveborn for the faction bonus

[manic ravine]

Need some help vs this line up

[final star]

@stuck trellis can i have 28-24 pls

[stuck trellis]

@forest cliff swap lyca and tasi and just slap the retry button some more

[forest cliff]

yea that worked

[ivory sandal]

Anyone able to help me, suddenly getting 1 shot

[stuck trellis]

@ivory sandal probably swap rowan and albedo and just rng hard

could also try

albedo
arthur
ainz
rowan
talene

maybe talene out for mortas idk

[ivory sandal]

Just checked peoples formations that won, they were all 260-280

I guess my level is just too low

[urban olive]

Any help? Can't get past this

[stuck trellis]

@ivory sandal people reach 26 with 200 crystal lol, only thing stopping people these days is power req

[modern moat]

Heya so I'm stuck at this level and don't have enough essence to level up. I tried the towers, peaks of time, labyrinth, and guild stuff. Any tips?

[forest cliff]

Anyone got any ideas?

[upbeat fossil]

anyone got a comp for last battle of Trials of God Howling Wastes?

[stuck trellis]

@forest cliff

@upbeat fossil weaken using ezio comp to kill saf vurk and then god comp to finish it off is what ive heard

[upbeat fossil]

@stuck trellis what's the ezio comp

[wooden island]

Ainz and ezio are very effective together. Try swapping tasi for ezio, and ferael for ainz. id have rowan tank brutus though,

Lyca
Rowan
Eironn
Ezio
Ainz

Swap eironn out if he gets killed super quickly, probably for someother decent form of DPS like safya or Saurus (saurus for the healing) or maybe swapping eirron out to put ferael back in for some more CC.

@forest cliff

[stuck trellis]

the person i heard it from just said thoran ezio, so id assume thoran ezio + disrupt like nara athalia? not sure though, its open to experimentation

[cosmic hazel]

Im like super new- anyone have advice on this?

[brave oriole]

@forest cliff this stage its pretty easy, just tank Brutus with rowan and eironn front down, and maybe replace ferael with Saurus 👍

[ivory sandal]

Yeah so I've tried everything at this point, prayed to rngesus but all my guys just get 1 shot , not sure how people with 200 crystal can do it, but im hard stuck

So weird that power jump tho, the battle before this one was a cake walk

[forest cliff]

thanks

[crystal vale]

I’m so tired of hearing the “AAAH AAAH AAAH AAAH AAAH” of GB ultimates...
The only reason I ascended Arden was at someone else’s recommendation, but he’s doing nothing against Niru either.

[brave oriole]

old school

@ivory sandal

[stuck trellis]

@ivory sandal wait you have daimon try this then

lyca
rowan
daimon
talene
brutus

[ivory sandal]

Ill try

[forest cliff]

Still having trouble

[brave oriole]

@forest cliff but have you tried already
tasi/safiya
rowan
lyca
eironn
ferael/Saurus?

[ivory sandal]

Unfortunately they still got mega rekt , daimon has +20 but no furniture

But even if he ultis, they 1 shot him

[forest cliff]

tasi, saurus eventually worked. thanks

[final star]

Anyone got KT361?

[regal pumice]

hard stuck, any advice?

[final star]

Where doe

[regal pumice]

7-28

[hazy iron]

Need help with lineup pls

[odd flame]

Is belinda really that bad?

[undone trench]

New, don't know who to use in my lineup.

[covert condor]

recommend me a arena team

currently play rowa talane farael Thalia nakoru

@undone trench wukong brutus zaphrael rowan arden max wukong

[vivid harbor]

Any advice?

[round citrus]

Rowan frontrow, silas instead of brutus worth a try.

[autumn needle]

Any advices ? I have 4 free slots in my cristal

[round citrus]

Use fodder to make gwyneth legi+

Use hogan and angelo

[autumn needle]

That means i won’t use hogan anymore ?

[round citrus]

Yes. U can try to get rowan for frontrow or just use estrilda/eironn frontrow for now. Also make sure ure wishlist is set properly

[autumn needle]

Alright, thanks a lot

[queen path]

Since i started playing, also used all faction cards on lightbearer except 1x10 pull

[stable peak]

Which ones should I focus on?

[round citrus]

U got a good wishlist? Play a bit more so you can actually decide what to focus on rn

[feral eagle]

@stable peak wukong to lvl 100, build mirael on the side, once wukong is 100, start overleving your mirael till lvl 160, also read pinned messages in #classic-questions

[stable peak]

alright, isnt gwyn good?

[round citrus]

She is good

[feral eagle]

alright, isnt gwyn good?
@stable peak yes once she's built up, for now you have way better options

[stable peak]

okay, so i should swap gwyn for mirael?

[feral eagle]

okay, so i should swap gwyn for mirael?
@stable peak if u can't go above lvl 100 with her better to stick with wukong for now

[stable peak]

100 with gwyn?

[round citrus]

Mirael

[stable peak]

oh ok

dumb of me using her as fodder then

[chilly nest]

): help

[round citrus]

Try izold silas shemira mortas lucius

[summer wagon]

Please help in new trials of god

[bleak cipher]

Shemira is still good for late game ? Im lv 99 and i rech with her to chapitre 19-4

[chilly nest]

@round citrus uh in thhat order? Izold died sooo fast haha

[round citrus]

Hm try silas frontrow, i thought maybe for the faction bonus but if he always dies just put belinda back in ;p

@bleak cipher shemira is good until chapter 22

I built her too but she gets useless u will need to focus on other heroes which you should start building now

[chilly nest]

D;

[round citrus]

Try lucius belinda gwyneth silas mortas @chilly nest

[chilly nest]

Nope ;/ belinda died before she could super 😭

[bleak cipher]

Witch heroes

[wide gust]

any chance for help?

[round citrus]

She gets jumped on right

[chilly nest]

Yeah, anyone in front row kinda just dies 😂

[round citrus]

@bleak cipher checkout the afk arena reddit, there are alot of usefull comps for mid/lategame

I play Eironn,Lyca,Tasi,Rowan,Ferael now or with safia

But daimon is op too, pretty good in some graveborn Formations. Its important that your wishlist ist good and always swap heroes if you get one Ascended

@chilly nest you need a second Tank :p try to get rowan up asap

Or daimon/izold

[chilly nest]

Okie, yah ive been trying for rowan but game hates me 😭

[round citrus]

@wide gust put rowan frontrow, hogan out. Lyca backline

@chilly nest may be the future pulls in your favour 🤭

[wide gust]

wait so i should put someone insted of hogan?

[round citrus]

Yes

[wet frost]

How do you do this

[wide gust]

@round citrus how should i build my team then?

[round citrus]

Mortas
Tidus
Safia
orthos
Ezith

@wide gust for now play like i told you above. Daimon is pretty strong also late he will carry you though chapters

[wide gust]

ik but i have no idea who to put insted of hogan or where to put who ive tried many things over the last 3 days and cant seem to get pass this one

[lethal tree]

I need help here

[round citrus]

@wide gust try mortas instead of rowan

[wide gust]

in the front?

[round citrus]

No leave hogan/daimon front for noe

But u will need to build someone else hogan is fodder from now on

[wet frost]

Thanks a lot. It was killing me

[wide gust]

have no idea who i wish i could get one more copy of rowan but i do have gwyneth i can get her to M

[round citrus]

Tough stage, np :)

Id build rowan first

C4tiger make sure u get a good wishlist

[wide gust]

I think I have a good one took it from the pins in questions

[round citrus]

@lethal tree u have ainz use him

[lethal tree]

I tried but he doesn’t reach is his ultimate

[round citrus]

And start upgrading carry heroes like daimon, u only have fodder heroes

[lethal tree]

I’m waiting for few more fodder before daimon can go further

[undone trench]

Can I catch an assist on my general lineup?

[round citrus]

Ocular make sure ur wishlist is good. Play wukong rowan zaphrael arden flora/mirael for now

But thats just for now, mirael is good until lvl 160 with wukong after that shes fodder and youll need to built carrys

[undone trench]

I think it's set up properly. People keep suggesting Zaph over Shermina even though just about ever source I've seen says she can carry into late end game. Why is that?

[round citrus]

With the same lvl hes stronger

You can build shemira if you like to.but shell get useless after chapter ~22

[undone trench]

No I'll still with Zaphrael. Just trying to understand the game.

[round citrus]

Which is the reason i wouldnt build her

[undone trench]

Am I putting Arden in the frontline with Wukong?

[round citrus]

Yes so all the hypogeans and celestials are hard to get thats why u cant use them properly after lvl 100/120 until u get them higher (preferably to mythic for the signiture item) i dont even have them high enough to use them

Wukong+Rowan

Rowan frontline bc he can stun enemy backline and dodges alot

[undone trench]

Ok, thank you.

[round citrus]

Np

[royal thorn]

Have managed to get myself past a few stages closer to finishing this chapter, but this one i’m not even close. I almost get a few of thea down, but the healing for nemora and numisu ruins it. Any tips?

[warm swan]

Rowan at that level does not dodge a lot. He's gonna get bursted down fast.

[coral pier]

Do you absolutely need a Brutus? Lucius would give you some more surviveablity and a faction bonus,

Or you could use a frontline Rowan and replace Brutus with Nemora on the backline.

[royal thorn]

Lucius doesn’t survive long enough to ult, but it does bring me a bit closer

[coral pier]

Does Nemora do anything? You could also do Ezizh instead of Brutus just because he gives passive energy regen and +30% defence.

[round citrus]

True but thats his usage in general

[royal thorn]

Ezizh is only E so dies in one hit, and nemora doesn’t get her charm off

[coral pier]

Ezizh dies in one hit even at ascended. His passives stay even if he dies so might be worth a shot.

Also you could give Mortas a shot since you have his trial activated

[round citrus]

Lucius frontline

[royal thorn]

How would i go about that?

[coral pier]

Just take Brutus away and put Daimon or Rowan frontline

[royal thorn]

Usually daimon doesn’t survive frontline atm, but worked like a charm. Thank you!

[coral pier]

Nice

[royal thorn]

Now i faced a new tasi stage, her banish always ruins my day

[coral pier]

It is her job to be as annoying as possible

[round citrus]

@pale kettle try mirael backline instead of lyca

[royal thorn]

I have taken good notice of that

[vast meteor]

Ive been having issues in the story. I dont think i have proper heros but is there anything i can do with this

[coral pier]

Put Rowan to middle position of back row. Right now Brutus and Lyca can't drink the potions.

[vast meteor]

I know hes usually in the middle but when any of my tanks bite the dust hes priority one

[tall lichen]

I’ve been stuck for a few days now. I’m currently dust capped, so I can’t level r/n. Any suggestions other than patience? TIA.

[coral pier]

That looks pretty solid considering what you have.

Position changing and retrying can make a big difference

[nimble ember]

help with an new lineup with my heroes

[tall lichen]

The team is just getting wrecked before any ults have the chance to go off. I’ve tried a few different line-up positions but can’t get the right combo. Thanks @coral pier

[blissful tapir]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/783333332544126986/Screenshot_20201201_140813_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.jpg

should i get albedo or ainz?

[coral pier]

For the short term Ainz is a stronger carry for new accounts but if you skip Albedo you can't really make a strong dimensional team in the future.

[elder aspen]

What do you guys think? Any ideas of team comp?

[tall lichen]

@coral pier had to rng the shaz out of it, but I did it finally.

[coral pier]

👍

[timid cloak]

Hi, been stuck on this stage for a few days now and just wondering if i could get help or pointers for a comp for it and or just overall for campaign

[coral pier]

Well, what are you using right now?

[summer cedar]

luci albedo nemora rowan ainz? im unsure if shem carry, ainz/bedo, or daimon 2 ascensions lower w out +20 is the best lineup here.

[timid cloak]

I’ve been trying around with different setups but these two are what i found most succes with untill now

[heady stump]

is this a good general lineup, ignoring the enemy side

[snow stream]

25-12 any ideas? I have elite Talene if it matters

[pale kettle]

any help?

[snow stream]

Try
Daimon
Shemira
Tasi
Thoran
Nemora

And don't max rare heroes

[pale kettle]

i can just rickety cart no?

[snow stream]

Yes, but rare heroes can't be higher than Legendary+, ask on #classic-questions about how your main lineup should look like

[heavy sonnet]

I guess it fits here more then #classic-questions
http://imgur.com/a/6jq1Z7Y just got to chapter 25, with alot of retries per stage, comp so far was daimon, rowan, talene, Farael thoran.
What should be my comp and what comp/s should I work toward?

[stuck trellis]

lyca tasi rowan + eironn/fera/daimon @heavy sonnet

lyca tasi rowan eironn + safiya/fera/daimon too

slightly different, but basically same thing

[heavy sonnet]

I know that this one called safiya eiron comp, right?

[stuck trellis]

yep

[heavy sonnet]

So atm I need to get as many wilders fodder as possible?

To ascend luca and tasi

Lyca

[stuck trellis]

ye

[heavy sonnet]

I should worry that much about a 2nd team?

Shouldnt*

[stuck trellis]

by building up wilders you are creating core parts of your 2nd team. and wilders are very core to multis

[heavy sonnet]

Ok

[stuck trellis]

your comps are probably going to be eironn saf/fera/daimon + thoran cheese + thoran daimon

[heavy sonnet]

I've sort of tried using thoran, but i think I just don't know how to use him

Unless he needs his furniture

So that's why it didn't work for me yet

[stuck trellis]

nah u just have to position well

him being mythic will make it harder though, since he dies a lot easier without being able to cast
the only requriment for thoran cheese is his sig

[heavy sonnet]

Can you sort of type the comp? Im having a bit of an hard time understanding with all the / and +

[heavy sonnet]

That might be it then

[stuck trellis]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/ijedcq/visual_guide_to_formations_updated_till_ezio/

there is also daimon fera, which looks something like

daimon
lyca
rowan
tasi
ferael

(obviously positioning can change)

and with thoran cheese the only core is thoran, everything else is stage dependent'

[heavy sonnet]

What am I looking for with thoran tho? To get his ult when others alive? Alone?

[heavy sonnet]

This one is great, didn't know there is eiron comp, and also safiya eiron

[stuck trellis]

this is somthing i wrote for a newer player, but all the information there is still relevant

thorans ultimate absorbs damage that the enemy deals to him, and returns a certain amount of that damage. Thoran cheese is when you make all 5 units on the enemy team focus thoran and also get in the range of thoran's ultimate ability, making thea mount of damage dealt to thoran much higher, and also making thoran's damage return much higher as well, which lets him one shot the enemy team when done right. However, you need mythic thoran at least, because his signature iteam (special effect unlocked when thoran gets mythic) lets him be unkillable when he is absorbing the damage. without his signature item, he will never be able to absorb enough damage to one shot the enemy team, which is why thoran cheese is not reccomended early on

typically thoran ults when everyone else has already died

[heavy sonnet]

Oh, so that's why it's hard you want him to have his ult ready when the rest are dead, and also all around him

[stuck trellis]

yes

i woudlnt say its harder than other comps, it takes just as much positioning and game knowledge as other comps

heres an example

[heavy sonnet]

I'll give that ago, I'll work on tasi and lyca tho, thanks alot

[heavy sonnet]

Oh nice, I'm listening

[stuck trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/782452059311439903/Screenshot_20201127-135617_AFK_Arena.jpg

its just all about getting the entire enemy team around thoran

and buying enough time for thoran to get full energy

[heavy sonnet]

Oh wow

[stuck trellis]

heres another one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/609275505526439974/779819844497178624/Screenshot_20201121-132531_AFK_Arena.jpg

[strong pebble]

Any tips for 10-40? Thanks in advance 🙂

[untold pawn]

Guys need help on what should be the best lineup for me

[wide pecan]

Is this the place get some help with 27-52 cant seem to get anywhere with it

[wispy flax]

Need halp pls

[strong pebble]

If anyone has suggestions, please reply to this original post ^.^

[wide gust]

last stage for this chap please help

[summer cedar]

daimon talene/golus arden rowan lyca is my pick

[wide gust]

whats better talene or golus?

[summer cedar]

depends how fast golus dies and how effective the healing is. I'm unsure, so give each a swing

[wide gust]

i will try thanks!

@summer cedar golus is useless so talene but it seems that in this formation everybody dies 2 quickly

[ocean trout]

I'm leveling fodder units cause I'm new and have bad luck, what 5 should I do to legend+? So far I got hogan and savas.

[summer cedar]

read pins in #classic-questions for the best advice there

[amber halo]

m+ shemira and then ascended or m baden and wait for other l+ to make m+?

@ocean trout sav as hes a hard carry early game

[marsh nymph]

Help pls, the Warek in the back is annoying

[rugged zinc]

Who to use in my team?

[stoic merlin]

I'm at 10-17, I think I need to actually start team building now. Who should I use

[summer cedar]

hogan izold arden/tasi/lyca rowan saveas works for a general team, but might have to mix and match for a specific stage. make sure saveas is as high a lvl as possible

[chrome halo]

Any chap 15 advice? ❤️

[amber halo]

use nemora instead of arden since hes not 141 so he dont root 3 guys yet @stoic merlin

[inland bison]

I’m stuck here with this freaking invincible vedan. Any ideas?

[amber halo]

try to remove the new hero and belinda and put nemora and brutus

how does that do @chrome halo

remove brutus and mirael and put pippa and shemira @inland bison

[chrome halo]

Eh not too well, Belinda and antandra are my main DPS sources :/

[amber halo]

normally you would only want 1 carry in your team ALWAYS - except for eiron+safiya @chrome halo

[chrome halo]

Hmm, alright, word

[amber halo]

2 frontline 2 support 1 carry and my carry is shemira

[chrome halo]

Think I should reset and make my carry one loaded specifically?

I don’t even think that sentence made sense lmao

[amber halo]

haha bro i dont understand ur wishlist u have nemora + lyca but where is arden/tasi? Another thing. Lucius and rowan are strong af. Dont you have stable wishlist from online guides?

[chrome halo]

I do but I didn’t for a while@when I first started

[inland bison]

So that didn’t work but I used my trials Silas and passed it. But have similar problems on next level.

[chrome halo]

On other servers my progression seems way better tbh

[amber halo]

ohh i see and good @inland bison Right now jack i dont think its good to reset since ur mythics are way stronger, but your team is weird - u should get supports/tanks to support ur carry to do its work. Damage is never lacking. 1 carry is always enough u just need supports/tanks for ur carry to do its work. Shemira can 1v5 till chapter 25 with the right team

[fickle loom]

wrong chat hero questions belong in #classic-questions. get your saveas to 160. get your arden to 141 his 141 skill is OP. lyca hogan saveas rowan arden base comp.

[chrome halo]

Dang, what would you recommend for a shemira carry? @amber halo mind if I dm you so we can talk about my team?

If not that’s cool

[amber halo]

sure pm me and we will talk there. @inland bison brutus is trash alone. And u should use shemira instead of mirael. Tasi is ok but better in wilder teams. Do you have fawkes? @inland bison

[inland bison]

I’m still really early in my game on this account and yes I know I made too many legendaries. I got lucky with fodder heroes and didn’t know better. But I’m not mad at the heroes i ascended.

Oops forgot the attachment, I only just got shemira and the other two purple maulers.

[summer cedar]

brutus luci mirael rowan tasi/lyca shud work as a general team, but it may need adjusting for specific stages. mirael>shemira from lvl 100-160 by far

[inland bison]

I have been able to brut force my way through the last 11 levels with that lineup, I’m having a lot of trouble with vedan on this. I can keep Brutus alive but Lucius and tasi always drop first.

[acoustic kestrel]

use your limited time silas and mortas while you can theyre both really good

[crisp pier]

I've tried like every combination for this but I can't beat it

[inland bison]

I guess I’ll have to keep hitting the replay and switching up positions. I’ve been so not confident about this team.

[grave parcel]

Just wait until the new bountiful trials guide posted on afkguide site 😂

[summer cedar]

hold on I experimented and beat this yesterday when someone asked. lemme find it

[summer cedar]

ezizh warek silas nara belinda I believe it was. old guide doesn't work bc lucretia got buffed and she kills everyone if u dont focus her

[ivory parrot]

Suggestions?

[summer cedar]

try fawkes instead of mortas. if that doesnt work, tell me who he coffins

[amber halo]

@ivory parrot remove mirael and hogan and put shemira and nara. Make Nara pull saveas and it should be won

and maybe fawkes instead of mortas - since it gives u full buff

[summer cedar]

mirael is 34 lvls higher. also mirael is far better prior to lvl 160, but shem shines from 161 onwards

[amber halo]

and mirael is a legendary tier hero - shemira is way stronger still imo - hogan is trash 🙂

[summer cedar]

mirael and saveas are the BEST carries prior to 160, as neither are held back by ascensions or levels. you do you, but this is the best advice collated by tons of ppl and put in the guides in #classic-questions. everyone knows shemira shines from 161 onwards- not a bad hero by any means prior to that, but mirael is superior.

[amber halo]

ahaha agree to disagree + he can make shemira 140 right now and that would easily delete that chapter. + his hogan is trash and shouldnt be used at where hes at.

shemira does more damage and heals = superior to mirael lol. Mirael is good if you dont have any carry

and hogan is good if u dont have a tank which isnt the case either

[faint current]

Oh boy so much incorrect information in one post

[amber halo]

i just did it on my alt account rofl so stop giving false information if you have no clue what you are talking about.

[faint current]

Shemira has fallen so far behind the power creep she’s actually been removed entirely from beginner wishlist suggestions

[amber halo]

go watch "volkin games" on youtube bro

[hollow hatch]

His mirael is L+, his SHemira is L, theres no debate which one is stronger

[wheat saffron]

im out

[hollow hatch]

Shemira cannot go above level 140 lol

[amber halo]

why not use shemira? she gets ascended within first month of play wtf.. my eyes hurt now

[hollow hatch]

She really doesn't

[amber halo]

she does - my alt is one month old mythic lucius - mythic shemira other l+. need 5 rare to make shemira m+ and 1 copy for ascended - so it took me 1 month 2 days to ascend her to ascended with only monthly card.

[hollow hatch]

I'm glad you pulled a lot of shemiras....? the person you're helping has not

[faint current]

You have SS of Shemira clearing stages earlier than 140 at high deficit?

[wet violet]

What stage is your alt on now?

[amber halo]

i pulled 2? - my alt is 16-36

[valid latch]

**slowly backs out of the room

[raw niche]

This stage sucks.

[amber halo]

shemira 140 can clear up to stage 13 smth

[hollow hatch]

@raw niche
Rosaline

Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Fawkes

[faint current]

SS proof of this? Otherwise please stop trolling.

[hollow hatch]

could try replacing Rosaline with Numisu since he's leveled

[amber halo]

my alt uses lucius - baden - fawkes - rowan - shemira. @faint current ill make another alt and show u - i didnt ss as i think it was common knowledge

[faint current]

It’s not common knowledge Bc it’s incorrect. It’s common knowledge that it is bad.

[raw niche]

@hollow hatch where do you see Fawkes lmao

[hollow hatch]

didn't have a screenshot of your heores, thought you might have an E+

down below

[amber halo]

dont state facts if ur only at chapter 31-20

[ivory parrot]

@summer cedar he coffins the fodder priest

[raw niche]

He's just E at lvl 1, not even on crystal

[faint current]

I await SS of your lvl 140 Shemira as your highest lvl hero, clearing ch13. Thank you

[hollow hatch]

If you're using Belinda Fawkes is really good, I'd make a crystal spot for him

Elite works just fine

he repositions enemies directly into her ultimate

[raw rune]

could someone recommend 3 teams for challengers? I want to have something semi-reliable so i can actually get a good coins per hour so i actually have a chance at getting the right amount of challenger coins

[raw niche]

But he's just E, he's gonna get oneshot the first second

[ivory parrot]

I don't reach the minimum party power to start the battle

[raw niche]

Not even +

[hollow hatch]

your supports don't need ascenscions, fawkes stays in the backline and chills

not gonna get hit

[amber halo]

u also only think u can clear to chap 4 the first day SPOLER ALERT - u can complete up to 7 or more - just need to reroll a few times for the right pulls

[feral eagle]

[faint current]

Just make two teams, most ppl leave one CLEARLY weaker team so you just adjust around to beat 2 teams and ez win.

[summer cedar]

I'm sorry, can u repost the enemies and ur pool? I've helped too many ppl and it's all blurred in my head. also it would help if u cud use reply function so I can quickly go back to my previous train of thought, as I currently do not remember what I said at the time.

[wheat saffron]

how is this guy not cs bro

[raw rune]

what about for defensive though?

[restive pike]

Started yesterday and i think im at a point where i should get a second tank into my formation.

[amber halo]

@faint current just because shemira falls off after chapter 25 doesnt mean she isnt godlike in early game ^^ anyways

[hollow hatch]

you still need to win only 2 battles, so go for 2 strong teams @raw rune

[restive pike]

current setup

[hollow hatch]

before you can make meta teams just go for campaign teams

[amber halo]

what i see there is 4 carries xD?

[faint current]

Just stop with the misinformation. Go get your SS of Shemira lvl 140 as your highest lvl hero clearing ch13 as you promised, and prove this entire discord wrong. Until then just stop.

[restive pike]

Yeah im stuck badly in campaign, lucretia is nice and all but dies isntantly in the frontline :D

[raw niche]

@hollow hatch niru just 1v5d me. Yeah......

[summer cedar]

lucretia should be over leveled in campaign, prior to the full team reaching lvl 100 @restive pike . with her recent buff she can basically carry u with any 4 others

[hollow hatch]

did Fawkes work and drop SHemira into Belinda?

[amber halo]

i never told any misinformation wtf - u just underestimate shemira as fk lol

[raw niche]

Fawkes trapped Shem and died

[hollow hatch]

to Fereal?

[raw rune]

i have 5 free rn btw @hollow hatch ,but yeah i guess doing campaign ones is smart thanks

[restive pike]

Yeah i thought so, but im pretty much out of hero xp sadly

[wheat saffron]

Because Shemira has fallen out of the meta, you're stuck 6 months behind, stop spitting bullshit, get a grip on and learn how the game works

[hollow hatch]

anyways you have a mythic rowan with +20, he's better than Rosaline, plus might be able to keep fawkes alive a bit longer, try Numisu Rowan Fawkes backline @raw niche

[restive pike]

Maybe reset another hero to get her up higher?

[amber halo]

ahahahha whatever @wheat saffron - she will never fall out of meta as she is the easiest to ascend as carry in early game cz of lab. jesus christ

[summer cedar]

yeah that'd be your best bet. she can p much do insane work alone. lvl 100 her if at all possible

[restive pike]

Hm, maybe ill put mirael in the backline too

instead of the poison ladyy, shamira?

[raw niche]

Okay we're making progress
Fawkes stays long enough to drop Shem Infront of belle
But niru and ferael poop on me

[stuck trellis]

@amber halo these people are not saying shemira sucks early, or at her peak. We all know that she is a strong hero during hte early game. However, because of the dimensionals, lab store is just not useable for copies anymore like it was before, meaning shemira isnt nessescarily easy to ascend at all. Also, the fact that new additions to this game, such as daimon, have speeded up early game progression so much, means that building heroes that are only strong in the early game, and fall off extremely hard later is not very worth anymore. instead, ascending heroes that are always relevent is a much better idea, which is why you would, ideally, always try to avoid ascending shemira

[summer cedar]

poison lady can do quite well, but later, at lvl 161, so it's safe to reset her for now

[raw niche]

Niru just doesn't wanna die and heals way to much

[restive pike]

Alrighty, maybe i should reset ainz link too, so i can get her to 81

otherwise shes stuck at 74 and i dont have the materials to level further and im also missing a hero in my formation 🤔

[ivory parrot]

Sorry, i thought I did use the reply fucntion

[summer cedar]

lucretia should be able to carry level 1 heroes honestly. she's that good

[wheat saffron]

I feel sorry for Pippi spending time on this tbh

[restive pike]

so i shall reset, alright thanks.

[raw niche]

@hollow hatch done, thank you sir!

[hollow hatch]

👍

[restive pike]

now i need all heroes on the pentagram to be level 60 or i cant upgrade her beyond 80? smh

[raw niche]

I'm afraid of what waits next, I have no mercs now haha

[amber halo]

hello gucci i see what you mean... but daimon is hard as fk if ur not lucky in the early game. Shemira is not. i dont go for thoran early game either since hes only good for late game. all im saying is a shemira after a month ascended beats everything else IMO. As you will never get ascended so quickly otherwise. And you need her ascended eventually, so why not now as it makes progress so fast?. u need it eventually cz of the increase of lv cap per ascended. So i dont see why u wouldnt do it

[summer cedar]

if she's 80, push in campaign, u shud get quite a bit further

[restive pike]

nooope, still died almost instantly on 6-20

[summer cedar]

wait from the SS u showed all ur heroes were alrdy 60+. what happened?

[heady stump]

is there a better lineup i can have cuz i’ve lost so many times here

[restive pike]

i reset heroes to upgrade her as you said

[amber halo]

my alt is 1 months old and i get her ascended tomorrow or in 2 days.. how is that bad? U would never get ascended carry this fast normally. Its just monthly card.

[summer cedar]

which means 81 lucretia, 61, 61, 61, 61 shud be easily achievable. now they're all 61, luc can go to 100, assuming resources

[restive pike]

ill try

before i go for it, any of these i should use? maybe throw in anoki as a second tank

[timid nest]

Hogan

[wheat saffron]

damn gucci typing another essay

[timid nest]

Pippi, whatever you’re about to state, just know. This came before you.

[restive pike]

this didnt work, at all

[summer cedar]

flora and ainz dont really fit that comp I think. u want supports.

[restive pike]

I sadly dont have any.

[summer cedar]

id drop flora for arden. i cant see another support u have

[feral eagle]

I sadly dont have any.
@restive pike get a free wukong and level him to 100, should clear those stages without much problem

[restive pike]

Cant level anyone above 83 rn
And how am i supposed to get him for free? o.O

[stuck trellis]

well, you wouldnt want to ascend her before other meta/high priority gb units because that means your progression after shemira falls off slows down. for example, a player with, say, a ferael and a daimon ascended will be able to do more than someone with shemira and ferael. that would be like saying, ascend nemora before eironn tasi lyca saurus. sure, it might have some benefits. but ascneding her first means the more useful wilder supports will be finished later, meaning your progression is directly impacted. there are too many important GB now that ascending shemira just to have a convinient carry is not a valid enough reason

[summer cedar]

did u read the pins in #classic-questions yet?
u hit the share button twice

[restive pike]

No, i just joined because someone recommended me to ask in this channel

[amber halo]

early progression is way faster than lategame progression meaning your afk rewards increase like a truck - and if u only think about late game then it will not increase as fast in any point in the game, meaning you are mission out if you know what i mean?

[timid nest]

Wukong should be your carry until 100. Lucius and Hogan are tanks. Ascend Arden for CC and support. Fill last slot with another hero. Switch to Mirael (or Saveas) at 120 for carry. Make Hogan L+ until 160 same with your carry.

[feral eagle]

No, i just joined because someone recommended me to ask in this channel
@restive pike there's an even where you can get a free wukong copy by doing some Facebook share, put your team to lvl 60 and get him to 100, you have enough xp for it

[mild geyser]

if you progress fast through early game why in the world would you focus on early game when you get to late game quick?

[amber halo]

missing out on achievements/missions = less pulls =slower progression

[restive pike]

Hm, alright ill go see if i can find anything like that and try it

[timid nest]

You don’t. Which is why recommending ascending heroes like Lucius is pointless.

[mild geyser]

yea which is why its dumb to ascend a shem when you can use a daimon thats also useful late game

[stuck trellis]

@amber halo so what you are saying here is that if you focus only on late game, early game progression slows down and you snowball slower as well? thatas a valid point, but it doesnt apply in this situation because even if you focus only on late game, early game progression is still fast

[timid nest]

Just make sure you don’t focus on heroes like Belinda, as this can considerably slow down your mid game progress, to save like a week max on early game. Maybe less.

[wispy tartan]

shemira is just a consolation prize if you don't get any worthwhile heros like daimon. Last resort that's usable but far from optimal

[restive pike]

So, just to make sure: I will now reset everyone above level 60 and level wukong as far as possible right?

[amber halo]

u dont use late game heroes in early game.. much slower progression since u get way less copies. If u focus on early game heroes like shemira u get progress fast = more pulls = ready for lategame heroes faster since u get way more pulls to get the other heroes u want too.

[faint current]

[timid nest]

Yes. Then do this again for Mirael/Saveas

[valid hamlet]

LMAO

[wispy tartan]

you don't get any extra pulls from progressing faster? you just get the same pulls earlier.

[restive pike]

problem with that rn, im out of diamonds so i cant reset. That hurts :D

[valid hamlet]

Im new as fk and I knew that statement was ????

[faint current]

This just in: Daimon copies EXTRA rare can’t get any early

[wispy tartan]

yeah my A daimon is just a myth

[valid hamlet]

You didn’t get a Daimon pull? It doesn’t exist. M that Shemira NOW

[amber halo]

@wispy tartan its same shit if u want to progress fast in early game or late game

[timid nest]

He does have a sorta fair point. Two copies of Shemira are given for free. 3 for Belinda. Make will what you want with that information.

[wispy tartan]

Like I said shemira is a last resort that's functional if you don't get better carries. That's all, nothing more nothing less. Anything that says differently is wrong

[valid hamlet]

So do we pull the trigger and waste fodder on subpar choices like Shemira

[amber halo]

last resort? its the fastest ascended hero u can get xD.. i dont want to stick with 1 wukong waiting for 15 more wukongs. Rather get shemira to ascended instead of having elite wukong

[wispy tartan]

she's available in lab but only for people who spend to get dimensionals, everyoen else basically just doesn't have lab coins anymore lol

what kind of argument is "pick shemira cause you need 14 copies of wukong" lmao

[timid nest]

If my GB box is paltry, then I’d invest into a Shemira to compensate as a carry, and adjust my focus in other boxes to more relevant heroes.

[wispy tartan]

get out of here with that strawman bullshit.

[amber halo]

who cares about dimensionals in early game i dont for a fact. Ainz is not my taste he takes 13 seconds before he do any basic attacks

[grim bloom]

For the 170 battle on wandering ballon, what should my line up be?

[wispy tartan]

weren't you saying 5 seconds ago you n eed to prepare for late game? you can only get dimensionals now, so if youd on't get them you're hurting your progression longterm for what? an okay mid game carry that's unusable late game?

[timid nest]

I think you’re misunderstanding things. You switch up heroes fervently in the early game to maximize progress rate.

[amber halo]

on that account i use safiya eironn comps for lategame

[wispy tartan]

ok so you're not in the lategame if you only use one comp

[amber halo]

not on my alt no

[restive pike]

Nope, level 100 wukong cant do it either

[timid nest]

This is true actually, lol

[amber halo]

ik u need more teams later.. but its gotten easier + when u defeat 1 team u dont have to them over again

[wispy tartan]

can you ss your main's progression, I'm curious

[amber halo]

sure

[timid nest]

Show me your lineup

[restive pike]

nevermind, had a bad placement. Put him behind lucius and it worked, thanks!

[timid nest]

Guys, try and move this discusión over to #classic-questions or #classic-chat. This place is not the channel for discussions on what’s viable in any game stage.

[restive pike]

Lets see how far he will get me :)

[timid nest]

Yeah, switching up the lineup helps. Word of advice, backline Lucius going to frontline for a better RNG factor. Also, try and get Rowan copies if you can.

[restive pike]

Yeah i tried getting him, but i pulled ~80 heroes so far and not a single supporter

(Just cause you wanted to see the lineup, i won that stage)

[timid nest]

Replacing either Ainz or Lucretia with Arden seems like it’ll improve your success rate.

[rigid birch]

id say take lucy out bc ainz can ult cancel atleast

[timid nest]

Try and get Arden to L+ for wilder section. Rowan or Mirael for LB. Ferael, Shemira or Daimon for GB. Safiya or Saveas for Mauler.

[restive pike]

Now im already stuck again, welp. Only got arden on rare+ rn

[ocean pawn]

Any help ideas?

Can consistently get to Brutus and skreg left but thoran can't survive enough or time 2nd ult after Brutus shield ends

[summer cedar]

arden's ascension and dmg doesn't matter, his cc does

[restive pike]

so i should swap lucretia for r+ arden?

[ocean pawn]

What stage @restive pike

[restive pike]

6-24

[ocean pawn]

Rip. My alt pulled talene and silas . That sucks not pulling supports

[amber halo]

@wispy tartan

[ocean pawn]

@amber halo think I could get a word of advice from you on 33 59 since you're past it?

[rigid birch]

@ocean pawn you can take out nara and kelthur and simply put eironn back mid

[ocean pawn]

I realized that lmao

Then throw my weak lorsan back top to link antandra and skreg

[rigid birch]

yep

just remove eironns gear (if you can) so he cant steal rowans pot

[heady stump]

any help with this, i can’t beat it

[ocean pawn]

He dies instantly anyway to antandra but I won

He pulls saveas antandra and ankhira in then dies

[rigid birch]

thats what you want him to do

oh btw @ocean pawn do you still have legendary enemies in ch 33 or is it in 31 only?

[feral eagle]

oh btw @ocean pawn do you still have legendary enemies in ch 33 or is it in 31 only?
@rigid birch yes we do

[rigid birch]

waw

[ocean pawn]

5th enemy has l+

damn 33-60 3rd team brutal since i dont have ezio

[rigid birch]

i have a friend with 20 si 3 f ezio
i can ask him if ud like

[ocean pawn]

ive used my 2 campaign mercs this week already lul

[rigid birch]

[smoky valley]

Help?

[strong pebble]

Can I get some suggestions please? ❤️

[summer cedar]

eironn saf team beats this, but rng dependent. optimally w max gear you'll be fine, but it will take more than a few tries

[summer cedar]

drop ceci for lyca. give it a few tries

[rigid birch]

same formation but switch bel and cece and rosa and lucius

[smoky valley]

Cool ty

[strong pebble]

huh?

[strong pebble]

They keep dying sadly ;-;

[rigid birch]

flip the formation

1. Lucius
2. Rosa
3. Cecilia
4. Rowan
   5.Belinda

[pale kettle]

Does anyone has the screen for mortas challenge ?

[rigid birch]

volkin made a vid

[strong pebble]

YESSSS finally I won. Thank you so much lol

[rigid birch]

gz

[wooden path]

https://gyazo.com/4d45a40be892462f3d1e9bdc5188bdf3 Thoughts? Im getting absolutely rolled on this one

[rigid birch]

take out silas and put rowan in

[tawny seal]

I need help

[wooden path]

hmm thats letting my guys live a little bit longer, leme try to rng it a bit lol

[wooden path]

Yea I got it thanks! I always thought rowan was trash compared to silus? but maybe he gets a lot better at a certain level?

[rigid birch]

who told you rowan was trash?
mans the best support in the game.
silas is decent, needs investment. Nothing compared to rowan
Rowan is one of those heroes that sticks with you till the end

[wooden path]

no1 told me, just Using him so far he has never been able to do anything. but silas can heal and clutch save people with injections so I just thought he was way better

[rigid birch]

rowan auto heals when your allies fall below a certain hp%, he's the best at it
silas can heal too, but rowan can heal while dead, and can resupply his potions

[wooden path]

oh I didnt know that

[rigid birch]

basically, you dont need rowan to live to support, while silas needs to be alive to heal and immune his teammate.
rowan himself can tank later on in the game, but he needs good gear and SI investment

[wooden path]

cool I will have to try and get some copies of him

[rigid birch]

definitely
prioritize him over all LB in SI and ascension investment, thats if you dont have bel ofc

[stuck trellis]

@smoky valley this is a much more consistent version of 29-60, less rng

[rigid birch]

yeah that formation got me first try

[round saddle]

Halp

[rigid birch]

@round saddle

1. Brutus
2. Shemira
3. Nara
4. Cecilia
5. Rowan

[raw rune]

on 13-7 now @rigid birch

[rigid birch]

dayum
man i miss early game

[raw rune]

it's so hard

[rigid birch]

saurus fits well here

[raw rune]

i tried him mortas does better

[rigid birch]

grez gives you a hard time here bc of the magic resist, saurus is better here bc of the fac advantage and him being a physical dmg carry

[wide gust]

anything im doing worng? im kinda close but daimon dies

[raw rune]

saurus just dies as a "carry"

shemira does too much damage

[amber halo]

saurus might be better than rowan in ur composition? @wide gust

[wide gust]

@amber halo isnt he gonna die like within a few seconds and do nothing?

[amber halo]

maybe. But it will buff daimons hp due to full buff thats why i suggested it xD

[wide gust]

oh didnt think about that 🙂 then myabe i will try

[amber halo]

just worth a try not sure it will win since u lose healer + energy refills

[wide gust]

he doent give much energy since he doesnt have his si mostly a healer atm untill i can M him

[amber halo]

true. If it doesnt work change rowan with the new hero to see if u can win like that

[wide gust]

didnt think about switching him thanks!

[snow stream]

Any ideas for 25-12?

[amber halo]

@snow stream nara instead of lyca to pull saveas?

[raw rune]

this is the closest I'm getting with him @rigid birch, mortas' ult targets arden not saurus

[idle marlin]

Help me!

[snow stream]

I'll try it but my lyca dodge tanks more than Hendrik Lucius or shemi can tank

[wide gust]

@amber halo thanks so much man! worked with eironn at the middle<3

[ocean pawn]

anyone able to give help on 3rd team 33-60? all winning teams have ezio there, and i dont have him

[amber halo]

@wide gust glad i could help

[ocean pawn]

any advice ?

[summer cedar]

try hogan wu lyca arden tasi

[ocean pawn]

im trying mortas out on third team and it works a little bit but cant kill brutus

[amber halo]

u need fawkes to kill brutus

[ocean pawn]

hes needed in 4th team

ill try tho

what order. been trying lyca talene front safiya eironn mortas before

[idle marlin]

It doesn't work, I just get nuked by miraels ult

[amber halo]

i usually try in x2 to see whats best

[ocean pawn]

and fawkes gets sniped by numisus totems 10/10 times

which is nuts as he has 8m hp

no luck

mortas works better consistently than fawkes

ugh

[summer cedar]

show full box? i can only see like 15 heroes hard to help further

[teal fulcrum]

is that a good lineup?

[pallid horizon]

maybe saveas in front?

[teal fulcrum]

he just insta-dies

[wide gust]

@amber halo yo man thanks to ur advice i got from 15-4 till 15-26 where im stuck atm ❤️ edit: nvm got it!

[pallid horizon]

prolly cuz he's underleveled

also bring him to L+

[amber halo]

np @wide gust it feels good to progress xD

[topaz nebula]

Hello! Can someone help me with 11-40? I am hardstuck there and need some help with the line up.

[wide gust]

for sure after being stuck for a few days

[topaz nebula]

I tried different line ups

This team carried me to 11-40

But it stops working on this stage. The guy with axes literary one shots my Rowan and Rosalin

[smoky valley]

cool ty man

[topaz nebula]

[summer cedar]

push arden to 81 for 2 roots. that might work

[topaz nebula]

Oh nvm. Cleared it. Holy fk tasi is so good

[compact breach]

Any solution? Sometimes I get to kill everyone except Rosa. That rose is very hard ... I don't know how to kill it

[raw rune]

wow... i fear the day i cant kill rosa

[compact breach]

Is the worst feeling😭 😭

[ancient shard]

Need help

[pale kettle]

Pm me need help

[royal thorn]

Any tips on this one? Daimon gets banished then instantly rooted afterwards

[obsidian sedge]

1-shemira 2-lucius 3-rosaline 4-rowan 5-belinda (1-lucius 2-shemira 3-belinda 4-rowan 5-rosaline) @pale kettle

[storm meadow]

Any1 have a combo to pass level?

[summer cedar]

try brutus izold belinda rowan nemora

[storm meadow]

Didnt work. Afther that i borrowed this new guy

[summer cedar]

u gave it at least 15 tries right? that's kinda how this game goes; I'll spend over 50 tries on one lvl

[storm meadow]

Yap stuck here for days

[summer cedar]

I meant my lineup specifically. rng matters. also who has what artifact
i stand corrected. swap belinda and nemora see what happens

[storm meadow]

Thats better but never killed more that 3 of them.

[summer cedar]

so who has which artifact? and how many copies of each? @storm meadow

[storm meadow]

Belinda- eye
Nemora - drape
Izold - grace
Brutus - call
Rowan - none

@summer cedar and no copies

[summer cedar]

rowan gets call. u dont have a 5th artifact yet? @storm meadow

[storm meadow]

Nope.

[summer cedar]

brutus doesnt technically need one. it's whatev. rowan shud ult w call

[storm meadow]

Woah. I passed 😍😍😍 @summer cedar thaaanks :)

[summer cedar]

rowan is god tier support. call if he needs to ult fast, or chalice (when u get it) if he needs to survive long enough to ult. yw 🙂

[amber halo]

@storm meadow those are the worst artifact placement ive ever heard no offense

[summer cedar]

"no offense" doesnt make it not rude. that's also completely destructive criticism. keep it to urself, this is a help channel

[storm meadow]

@amber halo when i got them id just put them. Never thought about them its something

[amber halo]

belinda - blade nemora - drape izold drape/chalice of vitality brutus = blade and rowan = call

@storm meadow alright @summer cedar im just making sure that people get good suggestions while also telling him about it

[storm meadow]

And i have drape and call only 🤣

[amber halo]

its constructive critisism lol so we all learn smth @summer cedar why would u ever take smth personal in an online chat? You should be old enough to see im just trying to help as everyone in here is. How is what i say ever being offensive. If you think thats offensive then u havent tried offenssive

[summer cedar]

your first statement was "no offense but you suck", without any advice. if you don't consider that destructive there's a problem here. what came after was constructive, and I'm totally on board w that. don't be a douche in a help channel or they may not ask again

[amber halo]

@summer cedar you are saying "but you suck" i never said that anywhere. its just my way of saying the artifacts isnt good like that? Everyone was new to the game whats wrong about that? u really confuse me..

i have helped 10+ progress today and they really appreciated my help. Its shocking that you find my suggestions "destructive and personal"

[tired copper]

Someone have the new formation for this silas trial fight? it's the bottom right one

[amber halo]

for example this guy progressed a whole chapter after i helped him

[gilded jewel]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Yd7pPuNsyskSaWFVBGFpXPipaL20vbCh2kZVPLdC_9Q/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/674165784385421322/783127954925420554/pn3slchiog261.png

[wide gust]

almost 🙂 hit the wall again tho im working on it but yeah

[gilded jewel]

@tired copper no more questions :) ill grab the silas one too

[amber halo]

ofc most of him was him but it feels good to help others progress in afk arena since i know i was there once

@wide gust you will always hit a wall but when u progress again its an incredible feeling

[gilded jewel]

@tired copper

[wide gust]

thats a fact

[tired copper]

No, that's the one that doesn't work

bottom right loses every time

[gilded jewel]

weird it worked for me the other day ill take a look

[tired copper]

the patch buffed lucretia remember and changed everyone to have +30 9/9

[amber halo]

it works all of them. i Won first try. most of the time u dont need the trial if you know how to build teams around your carry

[tired copper]

@amber halo have you tried since patch? I've literally just been doing it
and it doesn't work as shown

[amber halo]

but sure its helpful with the guide but its more fun to complete on your own. the guides are too easy and they do work 😄 sometimes might be rng dependant

[tired copper]

this worked for bottom right
swapping order around

[tired copper]

That's fine when you have time but it ends in 25 mins so i need to get it done

[amber halo]

ohh ofc

the guide there worked fine for me if i was stuck somewhere

[tired copper]

thanks for posting the pic anyway, most of them do still work

[amber halo]

if it doesnt work out youtube videos will show u another team that works too

[wet lily]

What team should i make outta these heroes? I am thinking of running two hypogene 3 graveborn since i pulled the new guy. Should i run silas or izeloid or both together?

[weak island]

Ideas? No, I don't have Rowan

[crystal vale]

I’m still stuck in the same place.
The few times I actually manage to somehow get rid of Niru before he one-shots my entire party, that’s when Isabella pulls out the ultimate and finishes me off. And most attempts I don’t even get that far.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/783236771844587520/image0.png

[faint current]

There is literally no RNG in bountiful trials...so no, not RNG dependent.

It either works first try or it doesn’t work.

[crystal vale]

Like... Khasos, Brutus, and Vedan aren’t even factors here. Niru and Isabella are my bane, even independently let alone together. But at least when they’re alone I can put a wrench in their steamroller with Nara. Since they aren’t alone in 15-36, that’s impossible in this case.

[thin wind]

Any tips? The damage their back line does is too high

[strong pebble]

Hey all, what’s a good team for Wrizz out of who I have? Thanks in advance 🙂

[crystal vale]

Out of those, I’d put Rowan and Samus in the front row, and Arden, Belinda, and Lyca in the back.

EDIT: ...Samus? SAURUS.

[strong pebble]

YO MY GIRL SAMUS IS IN AFK ARENA??? :^), and aight lemme try them out

[crystal vale]

Try switching Nara and Flora’s positions. I can’t remember my exact formation at that point, but I know my first priority was disposing of Isabella first.

[vivid harbor]

What's a good team comp that I could use? I've tried using Belinda + Wukong, but they both get 1 shot

[strong pebble]

How about this this?

[proven gulch]

Hey guys would I get a duplicate lucrecia or a zephreal?

[warm swan]

Arden and Saurus not gonna do anything there. Go full LB with Lucius, Cecilia, Rowan Rosa, Belinda. Make sure Rosa follows Bel.

[somber shoal]

Anyone could help me out here ❤️

[somber shoal]

I know I messed up with the legendaries early

[strong pebble]

Can you give me a suggestion for the one above your reply too please? ❤️

[warm swan]

In the lineup you posted, will Arden be able to root the enemies? Or does he get 1shot? How many ults can Belinda pull-off?

[strong pebble]

Arden is able to root once or twice sometimes, and Belinda rarely gets to use her ult cause Lucius gets killed easily

[crystal vale]

Thanks for trying, but it didn’t work.

[strong pebble]

Huh?

[strong pebble]

I was asking for your suggestion for MY team layout lol

[crystal vale]

...oops.

[summer cedar]

try arden at 5, rosa 4, luci 3

[summer cedar]

try daimon brutus arden rowan lyca

[warm swan]

Try Rosa, Saf, Bel, Mortas Lucius. See if you can make Bel ult fast enough multiple times. @strong pebble

[strong pebble]

Rosa dies WAY too quickly :pepehands:

[summer cedar]

i'm not sure if anyone has answered yet, but looking at the team ur running, there's no dps carry. try skreg luci (he must ult) belinda rowan arden maybe.

[summer cedar]

can u merc a saurus?

I'm playing catchup rn just finished an exam so bear w me plz

[vivid harbor]

Sadly, I can't. I don't have any friends nor guildies w/ a +30 saurus

[summer cedar]

+30 makes him god tier bc he team-heals. but for dmg u still want one, so long as u have sustain around him @vivid harbor so I ask again, can u borrow one at all?

[warm swan]

Switch Rosa's position. Saf, Lucius, Belinda, Rosa, Mortas or Rowan? Idk. This is hard without having to play it myself

[summer cedar]

what's the question? I think I missed it @strong pebble

[crystal vale]

Hey, that one worked! Luci didn’t get a chance to ult (Niru literally kills him in five seconds), but Belinda cleared out the extras while Arden and Rowan bought Skreg just enough time to overwhelm Niru at the end. Thanks!
Stargazer, here I come.

[strong pebble]

Trying to get some suggestions for this enemy layout, and here's my heroes:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/783501921238908958/image0.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/783494818285223967/image0.png

[summer cedar]

awesome, gz! i was kinda hoping luci would live but ig the ascension was too much. remember stargaze is not worth spending gems on for a long time, just use cards

[summer cedar]

ok, and ur saying rosa dies too fast yes?

[vivid harbor]

@summer cedar I cannot. The highest Saurus I can merc is a L+

[summer cedar]

so do it. saurus has absurdly high dps against bosses, ur job when he's not +30 is to keep him and the team alive thru other means

[strong pebble]

Yeah Rosa dies too quickly for her to pop her ult on Belinda

[dark roost]

First time in this mode. Which team should I use? Can maybe merc other things (not saurus)

[summer cedar]

have u tried swapping belinda and arden and giving that a few tries? hoping arden's rng will root the isabella to keep rosa up a lil longer

[summer cedar]

perhaps luci saveas mortas rowan belinda. honestly im not sure since I'm more familiar w optimal lineups and obv u don't have certain heroes to make it work perfectly. if u place Diamond V or better then this works, if not show me full box and I'll see what I can do

[dark roost]

Gold 4. I guess it's a fail. My Belinda dies one shoted extremely fast. Happened before Shen I tried with shemira, same with enzo

[vivid harbor]

@summer cedar I picked up a saraus (It was actually L), but how should I keep him alive?

[somber shoal]

Anyone could help me here

[summer cedar]

if u read Kane's skill description, he flat out kills a hero every so often, the one who has done the most dmg so far, so it's difficult to juggle this. remove thorne or whatever that graveborn w spikes is called, and put saurus on crystal. ask again tmrw once he's in assuming u have attempts remaining

[dark roost]

@summer cedar Saurus is in, I have two attempts (and I understand now the advice to keep one empty spot)

[summer cedar]

maybe saurus talene belinda rowan twins. it's unfortunate, but expect either saurus or belinda to get rekt right off the bat cuz that's how this boss works, unless somehow ur talene does the most dmg, which she wont

[summer cedar]

who does tasi banish

[dark roost]

@summer cedar don't have twins. Should I merc one?

[summer cedar]

nah, twins at any ascension do the exact same thing on bosses

[vocal sluice]

Mercing twins and using e+ saurus is more effective than no twins and merc saurus btw

[summer cedar]

i brainfarted. somehow i misread that badly as u had twins but were gonna merc a better one. uh yeah if saurus is in now, rosa saurus belinda rowan twins(merc) is actually the budget team im running rn. ideally belinda gets rekt after 2 ults and saurus does work. im just not sure how the sustain balances out lacking +30 @dark roost

[vivid harbor]

@summer cedar ty, while I couldn't reach diamond, my damage went up by 1.3 mill. I'll settle for gold 2

[dusty knot]

Pretty sure the stupid fareal is destroying me but does anyone have suggestions for what to do?

[summer cedar]

show box? i cant work w 15 heroes. who does tasi banish?

[summer cedar]

again who does tasi banish

[dusty knot]

Oh my bad let me check

Farael

[summer cedar]

I'm thinking shem luci rosa rowan tasi. dont strictly need nemora charm if he's banished. if rosa doesnt ult, use lyca

[dusty knot]

Ok thank you

I did it, thank you so much. I had to switch rosalines artifact to duras call to get the ult but it all worked out in the end

[summer cedar]

yw 🙂

[dark roost]

@summer cedar thx. I'll merc à twin and see tomorrow.

Night guys!!

[summer cedar]

gn! sleep well

[tranquil walrus]

anyone help?

[summer cedar]

id drop numisu for lyca. maybe mortas for rowan if u have one. if neither works need to see box
more levels on shem wouldnt hurt, if u can afford it

[vivid harbor]

Closest I've gotten to clearing this stage. Will I just have to rely on rng, or is there a better line up that i could be using? Any advice is appreciated

[summer cedar]

ceci is prolly not what u wanna run in campaign. support for carry>>>. need to see box

[restive pike]

Alrighty, i got some more pulls in and got more hero XP and a few supporters. Now stuck at 7-4

[summer cedar]

brutus golus ainz rowan arden perhaps

[vivid harbor]

Try and get Arden to E+

[summer cedar]

arden to 81 is huge, cuz he can root 2 ppl instead. do u have any artifacts?

[restive pike]

Only Duras Grace so far, put it on Lucius.
Cant get arden to 81 rn, will take a bit to get the xp

[vivid harbor]

@summer cedar I beat it w/o Golus, but ty

[undone trench]

Currently using Wukong, Rowan, Zaph, Arden, Flora. Curious if I can do even better.

[summer cedar]

ah well im not perfect. ur moving on and that's what's important

[vivid harbor]

I don't expect you to be perfect. But your advice is usually sound :). Arden came in clutch. So, thank you

[restive pike]

Nevermind, got him to 81. Should i put the artifact on mira?

[summer cedar]

wu luc arden rowan and one more support is best. currently u dont have another support, so slot in zaph or flora

[summer cedar]

no, grace belongs on a frontliner. might give it to wu tbh

[restive pike]

Alright great, beat the stage easily now, thanks.

[summer cedar]

yw 🙂

[inland bison]

Any tweaks? Also should I feed Mirael to Lucius?

[restive pike]

Not a single hero on my team got below 80% somehow xD

[summer cedar]

nah. mirael is best carry up to lvl 160, dmg output is kinda nuts. try brutus luci lyca mirael rowan.

[wanton lagoon]

This one is good? or i can improve it somehow? early game, 11-36 atm

[inland bison]

Doesn’t seem to be touching this team at all. I barely kill one. Urg.

[summer cedar]

optimally, mirael is 20-40 lvls higher than anyone else. the rest are there to help her live longer or cast faster/stronger

[undone trench]

@summer cedar Cant decide who to finish out that line up. Flora and Zaph are both very good.

[shadow trellis]

Help can’t get past 10-4

I’m trying to get another legendary to get resonating crystal to get heroes to 140

[summer cedar]

that would vary by stage. I did not have either hero at lvl 80 (they didnt exist back then) so idk how well they work

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions . I'll help u build a team if u can explain why L heroes are a bad idea (mirael and golus are fine tho)

[shadow trellis]

I can’t explain that lol I play the game a lot but don’t know much

[summer cedar]

did u read the pins? there's a LOT of good advice there

[shadow trellis]

I read it

[summer cedar]

what I'm trying to say here is don't build another legendary hero, as it will halt ur progress DRASTICALLY in the future. try luci izold tasi mirael and maybe nemora

[modern matrix]

Im in Ancient Ruins and idk which hero to choose, I already have my own legendary saveas so idk if I should choose saurus, mezoth, or wu kong

[vapid field]

Can anybody help me, I can't beat the final battle in Bridge of Souls. Any suggestions? My current lineup is Mythic Plus borrowed Brutus, Lucius, Talene, Ainz and Izold. https://gyazo.com/d2df1e5a26413ba76b22ad4a0aa91ab2

[frank bloom]

What do I do I cant beat it

[tranquil walrus]

didnt work 😦 everyone gets killed fast; heres heros.. ill try to level them up

[summer cedar]

shem luci arden rowan lyca

[tranquil walrus]

ill try thanks!

hmmmm.... arden and lyca die almost instantly, then luc ults then everyone dies...

i think it might be that i need to level them up... but tysm for the help

[summer cedar]

might wanna swap them. as in luci shem lyca rowan arden. but if that doesnt work im not sure honestly

[peak needle]

I am planning on resetting and unlinking wukong from albedo, just wanted to know if I should re link albedo to silvina

[weary narwhal]

Any recommendations?

[severe trout]

pls help, walled with no hope xD

@weary narwhal try front up brutus to delay and give time to back row saveas or belina to damage

[tight mural]

please help. any combination getting wreck by silence and sleep. what should i uae?

use*

[wet violet]

@tight mural https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/k1ruzv/mortas_bountiful_trials_guide/

[summer cedar]

swap belinda for a support, likely arden/lyca/tasi

[tight mural]

thanks for linksm very helpful

[severe trout]

will try out @summer cedar , thank you. Lyca attempt actually got me pretty close, had no clue what boost she could be in the attack speed of heroes.

Also, question, where is teh Mortas trials available? I can't see them anywhere

[summer cedar]

ranhorn, left pulldown tab. events-->trials-->mortas

[severe trout]

you are an angel @summer cedar

[river rivet]

I thought this fight was going to be easy 😂 I almost keep failing idk what team should i use

[summer cedar]

dont need 2 dps. move rowan to 4, drop safiya for a support, im tempted to say lorsan?

[river rivet]

Ok ill try

[whole briar]

Stuck

[summer cedar]

u dont have a dps carry. can u show full box, i can help better then. also read pinned guides in #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

throw arden in crystal, replace belinda w him. if u dont have slots, remove oden

[whole briar]

I plan on making him L soon then up

[summer cedar]

his ascension doesnt matter at all. he is there for CC, not dmg

[jagged token]

Need help, stuck so bad

[weary narwhal]

What’s my best team comp here? I was told I’m not using a real dps backline using the third photo

[whole briar]

@summer cedar doesn't work