lineup-help

[faint ibex]

i'd suggest reclearing for better relics if the relic's you're using aren't very good replacing zaphrael for silas doesn't seem that bad either

[mystic bay]

I got these, I'm new to this, they seem good to me but what do you think?

[rare umbra]

Help please

[wide gust]

hi guys got stuck here any chance for an advice?

[astral meteor]

Thank you , i just need a Guild to do the wukong event

What abou thane and Gogi?
Are they worth keeping?

[tawdry fjord]

so this is my current lineup but im not sure if i should keep safiya and if i do take out safiya who is going to switch with her?

[gloomy shard]

Daimon lvl 140

That's all you need, really

[tawdry fjord]

:0 sweet,

[topaz rain]

Help please

[round fractal]

Hi guys. I just started yesterday and I need some help with my lineup as I'm currently stuck. Is there anything I can do ?

Been having some problems not knowing who to switch out or anyth

[raven hare]

@round fractal

[astral meteor]

What Team would you suggest me ?
Just got Belinda as a new hero

(And trying to find a good guild to get wukong*)

[raven hare]

Firstly I wouldn't spend lab coins yet. Brutus is excellent, I would choose Belinda or Mirael for the time being.

You can refer to this guide:

[astral meteor]

Alright ty :)

[crimson galleon]

This stage has been more of a nightmare than any stage I've ever come up against. 30-30 any tips?

[pearl sleet]

I can't clear this one, any suggestions?

[topaz rain]

Nara instead of ferael to kill nemora @pearl sleet

[wide gust]

guys im stuck any chance for advice for how to beat it?

[feral eagle]

This stage has been more of a nightmare than any stage I've ever come up against. 30-30 any tips?
@crimson galleon
Nara
ferael/tasi
Eironn
rowan
Lyca
Should do the trick if vurk doesn't kill your eironn with poison

[feral eagle]

guys im stuck any chance for advice for how to beat it?
@wide gust reset hogan and get Daimon to 160, easy clear

[wide gust]

really? i should keep hogan at 121 i assume?

[feral eagle]

really? i should keep hogan at 121 i assume?
@wide gust get daimon 160 and level your hogan as much as u can

[wide gust]

will do thanks i will try after that

[crimson galleon]

@feral eagle thanks a lot I'll give it a shot!

[feral eagle]

[wide gust]

@feral eagle btw how do i put my team togther after i lvled daimon? hes at 158

[crimson galleon]

@feral eagle WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU A GOD?

Four retries and it won. How did you know?!?!

[feral eagle]

@crimson galleon the reason why you are losing is because you're not getting cc on mehira, which most likely one-shot you if you don't. You also lacked burst damage since there's ezizh. At this point only Brutus remains an issue, which is solved with ferael. Ferael version worked right?

[crimson galleon]

@feral eagle Damn, yeah. I really gotta learn the heroes more in-depth. Ferael version worked yes. What part did Nara play in that?

[feral eagle]

@feral eagle Damn, yeah. I really gotta learn the heroes more in-depth. Ferael version worked yes. What part did Nara play in that?
@crimson galleon nara cc enemy mehira before she has the chance to ast her bat opening skill, which is something that can one shot your entire team. I'm pretty sure before using nara you died in some seconds with mehira top dmg. For next zstage, when you see a mehira, put nara against her

[crimson galleon]

Damn will do, that makes sense. Thanks a lot for the advice Eden!

[feral eagle]

@pale monolith i'd try
Belinda

rowan
Eironn
brutus
Lyca

[wide gust]

still cant seem to get it im guessing im doing something wrong?

[ashen breach]

I am stuck at chap 11-23, my line up seemed to be not doing well progressing. What should i prioritize in my current pool. Please help.

[mortal prawn]

They hard counter you cash. anyways you can do it

[viscid pine]

use Lyca and Saveas, front Shemira and the heroes I mentioned backline.

[mortal prawn]

Rosaline - Shemira Lyca - Arden - Nemora should work within 50 retries @pale kettle
Tho try @viscid pine 's set he's more in touch with earlygame than I am probably

[viscid pine]

Who should Nemora target?

[mortal prawn]

@viscid pine Saveas imho. Let shem spiral, I would shem frontline here any day - you ened her to ult, and he's past lvl 161
Spider lady is a consideration
Vurk is a no go, there's no invades anyways, shem should out-ult him if she stays away from poison's energy drain

[wide gust]

btw can i get some help on how to pass this?

[mortal prawn]

Put them in order. Rosaline SHem frontline, Lyca Arden Nemora backline, top to bottom.

@wide gust Ascend Daimon 🙂

[wide gust]

🙂 will do

[mellow blade]

So after seeing some formation recommends I was fiddling around with some lineups for story and kings tower, and was looking to get a rating on my current main formation, story is chapter 8 and tower is 100+

[mortal prawn]

@pale kettle yeah
@mellow blade Your profile is so on point I was sure you're some sort of discord bot. Anyways at these levels its mostly about power ratings, since the differences between heroes are significant - your set is perfectly fine, I'd consider putting bellinda who's your main carry behind Skreg instead of Skriath, and perhaps Rosaline in the frontline

[mellow blade]

Okay thanks @mortal prawn I saw a recommendation that Belinda was a great FL up until chapter 15 due to her quick energy Regen to pop off ultis quickly but I'll try your suggestion

[mortal prawn]

@mellow blade Yeah, you should definitely start changing that around once you get some more new heroes around chapter 12-13

[astral meteor]

Now i got the Heroes i wanted, what would you guys Change?
Kinda frustrated cause idk Who to level, please help me 🙏

[gilded jewel]

@astral meteor wukong is really strong up until level 100, one of the best esrly carries

[feral eagle]

So after seeing some formation recommends I was fiddling around with some lineups for story and kings tower, and was looking to get a rating on my current main formation, story is chapter 8 and tower is 100+
@mellow blade your main problem here is that your support (numisu) is overlevel while your carry (Belinda) could be higher. As a general rules, always overlevel your carry. Get wukong in Frontline and Belinda backline, get skriath out. Should work

[mellow blade]

So like this @mortal prawn

[mortal prawn]

@mellow blade indeed

[astral meteor]

So Who should i take out for wukong?

[mellow blade]

@feral eagle I overlevelled Numisu because I was needing the extra defense on him to deal with assassin builds who tore through my mage core to therefore allow him to keep his healing statues up, or at least that was my main gameplan

[feral eagle]

That's a good idea. But the problem is that silvina will jump on your carry and kill her if she's lower on stats. Hsving Belinda to live and damage is more important than having numisu alive to heal.

[mellow blade]

Okay thanks @feral eagle

So should I almost reset Numisu and use the resources to get Belinda and back up @feral eagle

[feral eagle]

So should I almost reset Numisu and use the resources to get Belinda and back up @feral eagle
@mellow blade I'd get numisu to 100 and Belinda to 120

[mellow blade]

thanks @feral eagle

[gilded jewel]

@pale kettle swap sav for lyca please

[fair python]

stuck at floor 99, campaign 7-52, can't find a good composition :x

[gilded jewel]

That link didnt work lumyn

[astral meteor]

Who should i take out for wukong ?

[gilded jewel]

@pale kettle u should be unleveling saveas as well, ur carry from this stage on is gonna be shem im assuming so u want support over more dmg

Put the levels from sav into lyca

@fair python estrilda, hogan front with belinda gwen arden, swapping athalia when needed

[astral meteor]

Who should i take out for wukong?
And any other Tipps?

Someone told me in questions to go to lineup lol

[fair python]

@gilded jewel seems better, thank you !

[viscid pine]

I think that's just going to be an RNG wether your Arden roots the enemy Arden, also Saveas would shit on every enemy here

try replacing Nemora with Saveas.

Can Arden root once?

I think Ogi interrupts Arden right? Also Kaz can somehow attack backline enemies with her auto

THen its all good

Try placing Lyca in front of Ogi, That way Ogi will have to walk forward first and wont use his hulk smash before Arden root.

But if you do that, Arden needs to root both enemy Arden and Ogi, hyper RNG

Yeah you need a scenario where Arden roots both Ogi and Arden, if he's in the middle, he can root every enemy.

Can you get him to 141 tho? That's when he can root 3 enemies

Oh he needs L+

That campaign stage you are right now is very hard, you could try waiting it out until you get him to 141, or you can try to trial and error yourself. Get to know your heroes better

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle just pull the arden with nara

[topaz rain]

Can someone help?

[bleak bridge]

Someone please help me.

[twin oracle]

Send haalp plez

[brave oriole]

@bleak bridge
Lucius call
rosa
rowan
shem
fawk

@twin oracle u kinda have the same enemies like the prev guy 😂

[twin oracle]

dont have all those though @brave oriole

[brave oriole]

try
Lucius dura's call
talene
daimon
shem
rosa

@twin oracle and, don't you have a poor elite rowan? it would help you a lot

[twin oracle]

i sadly do not

[brave oriole]

@twin oracle OK, if not works well the setup ive told you, replace daimon with Nemora and restart if she doesn't charm ferael on the beginning

@pale kettle post again your stage please

[twin oracle]

the setup u said is where they should be placed too ? or should i just shuffle them around

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle not sure, but try this for a sec
arden
rosa
lyca
shem
nemora

@twin oracle yeah the front names are front the back names are back

@pale kettle nah, 3 4 tries, just to see if arden roots

[somber lance]

any suggestions?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle that's close then, maybe put dura's call on arden? what do use currently shemira? I mean, the artifact

@somber lance weird, you don't have a rowan?

[weak island]

Ideas? Also, should I buff my Daimon to 141?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle mhm, OK, try eye on arden then

[somber lance]

@brave oriole not a single copy 😢

[brave oriole]

and some good shoes for more mspd

@somber lance that's very sad, lol, how come Lucius is A, and no rowan? 😥 try to charm ferael with Nemora?

[twin oracle]

@brave oriole my hero , the charm worked , ferael was owning my team for days , ty a bunch

[somber lance]

I've been trying to get him but no luck :/, I've tried that too he's just too strong

[brave oriole]

nice 👍

@pale kettle oh, this looks bad, you need a Brutus

@pale kettle try to move arden down and nemora middle

shem died too fast?

you. may replace then arden, with nara what's your other heroes?

oh man, put in your crystal rowan and fawkes

so now, let's try a few setups
lyca
rosa
rowan
shem
fawkes

shem still died too fast? try dura's grace on shem

so she may dodge more and get the shield

try grace

put call on him

and some good shoes for mspd

nice 👍

one more stage and you done 😁

yeah, it's a high dps enemy team, but will work in the end.

you will need a hypogean I guess, for 30%def,
shem
rosa
rowan
hypogean
arden or safiya?

nono, it's this girl with purple hair

lucretia yeah, lol, it's OK she will give 30%def anyway, don't have to stay alive

for me luc it's Lucius since I've played with him for a year +😂

mhm, I dunno if will work, but try instead of safiya arden, Lucius, with dura's call, and the best gear you can get

I'm curious if he will shield up

that's good then, Gz for the win

I gtg now, see you around 👍

[mellow blade]

Hey sorry to bug again, But I was contemplating a switch to the FL, WuKong for Mesoth for a double tank FL both are lvl 100

[normal dove]

Anybody got an idea on how to beat this level

[eager mango]

@pale kettle dont get anything to legendary unless you have another copy of them at elite+ so u can get them straight to legendary+ otherwise it just ends up becoming a waste of fodder

[warped pond]

Hello umm whats the best lineup for 6-34?

[warped pond]

Best lineup here?

[primal jasper]

U have a good lineup just beed some more levels.

[warped pond]

@primal jasper cant dont have anymore exp

[primal jasper]

Then wait a day it's afk arena for a reason. Start another server if ur eager to play more :)

[warped pond]

Aww okie but thanks for the advice

[primal jasper]

I play 2 servers also, if I cant progress on the main I'll go do some stuff on the alt. Sometimes u het better pulls and switch but I see u have some good pulls

Btw, u do have 3 supports I see. Switch one out for a tank? Maybe sylas

[somber schooner]

early game it's easier if you pick your strongest/highest Ascended as your carry level that hero 40 above the others to pass stages easily.. @warped pond You have new GB dude..idk him but you can use him ..so reset others to 61 and put the resources into his level..plus gear and the other 4 dont matter ..can even put 4 other GB for faction bonus.. pin this ..its Gold.

[warped pond]

Whats a GB?

[somber schooner]

new skills open every 20 levels so dont "mid level " instead put resources into your carry

[warped pond]

@somber schooner i dm you

[somber schooner]

ok..but GB is Graveborn

[warped pond]

@somber schooner r u talking about silas?

[somber schooner]

yes ..sorry too many new heroes to remember..dont have the room atm😂

[wide gust]

can i get some help got stuck here

[primal jasper]

Underleveled imo

[wide gust]

ik

[wide gust]

but im close since diamon is strong enought however there is 2 much cc

[primal jasper]

I cant get past this and im higher level than u xd

[wide gust]

wait what xD

[primal jasper]

Daimon is a beat though

[wide gust]

daimon is op gotta admit and talene is op af as well

thats why i can push so far i think and i can easliy push even more if i can have a bit more lvls on my team

[primal jasper]

I think hogan needs to soak a lot here

[wide gust]

i remmeber this stage just got past it today just got daimon to M today and suddenly i am in chap 13

[primal jasper]

Did u try to pull the hero on the bottom? Hes a cc machine so if ur GB can pull him inti daimon

[wide gust]

hmmm id say no one is strong enough to tank nothing but daimon since they all are super underlvl and E+ but hogan

[primal jasper]

And use the GN tank instead of rowan so u can aoak a bit more

Cuz he revives and soakes GB tank

[wide gust]

GN tank witch is who? and yeah ive tried putting daimon on the buttom ill show my heros as well

[primal jasper]

Idk the name, the graveborn undead king

[rigid birch]

thoran, he needs to be lv 121 to stun when resurrecting afaik

[wide gust]

im missing one wilder rare to get all my team to L+ however im waiting for it and not doing it just yet so idk maybe i just have to wait

[rigid birch]

if you can get arden to L+ first

[civic gale]

What do I DOOO I keep losing

[rigid birch]

1. Shemira
2. Talene
3. Rosaline
4. Rowan
5. Fawkes

[civic gale]

Ok

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions here?

[raw rune]

I'm on 12-32 now @rigid birch

[rigid birch]

wow you've pushed too far
meanwhile i only did 2 bosses in ch 31

[raw rune]

lol

well lategame is hard i think

[rigid birch]

im overleveled, im just lazy and i push with mercs bc i dont have a 2nd carry

[deep ice]

Pls im 2 weeks stuck on this

[rigid birch]

3 carries in 1 team isn't good, you can do

1. Brutus
   2.Talene
2. daimon
3. Rowan
4. Nara(merc her if you dont have her, no way to counter arden otherwise)

[narrow lark]

He has the eironn

[deep ice]

Ye i need 1 eiron for acended

[pale kettle]

Any tips for this one?

[rigid birch]

@narrow lark eironn is shit without t1 gear

[deep ice]

Rip dont have nara

Other idea?

[raw rune]

fair enough

[narrow lark]

He still pulls though. Maybe try a lyca Eironn Tasi backline

[rigid birch]

i think tasi banishes lyca, lyca isnt bad with brutus talene front

[civic gale]

Thanks @rigid birch

[rigid birch]

@deep ice i think nara is the only option here, try to merc one
@civic gale yw

[deep ice]

Rowan instant dies

[narrow lark]

@deep ice also I would stop making Legendary heroes if you cant make them L+ just a side note 👍

[deep ice]

K

Should i buy the eironn for acended

[rigid birch]

no

[raw rune]

lol

[deep ice]

Wy

[narrow lark]

Nah, only buy Ezizh

[rigid birch]

^

[deep ice]

Tips for this 1

?

[rigid birch]

@deep ice maybe
1.Brutus
2.Talene
3.Daimon
4.Rowan
5.Lucius

[narrow lark]

Try talene, brutus/damon, Tasi, Lyca, Eironn

[rigid birch]

if lucius gets clapped then maybe do tasi

[pale kettle]

@rigid birch

[rigid birch]

is this labyrinth?

[pale kettle]

Ye

[rigid birch]

you can use mercenaries infintely through lab, so maybe merc a shemira or smth

[pale kettle]

Drop tasi for shemira?

[narrow lark]

Either use Belinda or Shemira, not both

Shemira cant ult fast enough even with rose, any suggestions?

[rigid birch]

you dont have nara?

[narrow lark]

No, I dont really need to pull. It's just the Niru that just kills whoever is put on him first then he continues draining energy from shem

[wide gust]

ok i really am stuck any advice?

[shrewd sorrel]

Guys so should i feed belinda to gwyn to get gwyn mythic

[mild geyser]

No

[digital echo]

Hey guys I need help

[shut glacier]

@digital echo swap position of Hogan and Daimon, remove Estrilda and place Rowan middle back

[digital echo]

Ok thx @shut glacier

[bleak bridge]

No matter what I try I just Can't winnnnm. Someone please help.

[shut glacier]

@shrewd sorrel no, wait for fodders like Mirael Hogan

@bleak bridge do u have Ezizh?? Remove Brutus and add Ezizh... Remove Tasi and use Eiron to grab Shimera in

[wide gust]

stuck atm may i get any advice?

[shut glacier]

Remove Nara and Talene . Use Farael and Arden@wide gust. place Rowan middle back

[bleak bridge]

@shut glacier no ezizh :/

[wide gust]

in the same exact formation?

[tranquil walrus]

help?

[shut glacier]

Estrilda hits harder... Place Daon lower front

[bleak bridge]

@shut glacier tried draging shem in but eiron just dies within seconds

[shut glacier]

@tranquil walrus add Talene Farael, remove Flora and Nemora.

@bleak bridge try Fawke

[tranquil walrus]

no talene

[wide gust]

@shut glacier seems everyone dies 2 quickly without talene

[shut glacier]

@tranquil walrus Lyca...

[topaz rain]

Can i get some help please?

[shut glacier]

@wide gust try Shimera front with Mehira back

[wide gust]

dont have shemira or mehira 🙂

[tranquil walrus]

everyone dies in like 5 sec

[shut glacier]

@topaz rain replace Lyca with Safiya

[topaz rain]

@shut glacier she dies instantly she’s only L+

[shut glacier]

@tranquil walrus try to mercenary Tidus or Vurk

[tranquil walrus]

ok

should i buy talene from warriors glory?

[shut glacier]

@topaz rain I would remove Thoran and Lyca and place Tasi and Farael there instead. Tasi front and Farael back ...or Farael front Tasi back

@tranquil walrus u should buy red chests to make +30 Rowan. E or E+ Talene is not much different from L+

[tranquil walrus]

k

[topaz rain]

Don’t understand how but it worked, tks @shut glacier

[shut glacier]

@topaz rain have u tried Eiron back middle and Rowan front with Tasi?

Backline is Farael and Daimon with Eiron middle

Front Rowan Tasi

[topaz rain]

Nop I didn’t but it worked with fera eironn front, tasi rowan daimon back

But doesn’t it is a problem to move rowan from backline middle? Because then is passive doesn’t apply to the entire team, right? @shut glacier

[shut glacier]

Yes, there will be 1 hero which does not benefit from Rowan energy potion. But this is ok, if it were heros that warp here and there like Tasi. I place Rowan front very often in chapter 28, 29. Behind Rowan is usually Eiron or Lucius so he casts shield quickly

[topaz rain]

Rowan doesn’t die to quick in frontline?

[shut glacier]

@topaz rain no,, if u 5* his armor and sig+20-30. And there is a Lucius behind him.... Or Talene besides

[topaz rain]

Ok i’ll try that sometimes from now on 🙂
How come it worked with tasi and fera? I don’t get it

[shut glacier]

In Eiron Comp, enermies are pulled backline into Safiya field to reduce their attack rating. So placing Rowan front is better with Eiron behind

Tasi and Farael work together like advanced versions of Arden root locking

[topaz rain]

Hmm ok for eironn comp, but my sagiya is far from being battle ready :/
Ok i’ll check the skills of fera and tasi to understand why they work together ! Thanks a lot

[shut glacier]

Ok 👌 have a nice day!

[topaz rain]

You too!

[primal jasper]

Some help needed

[uncut thicket]

help 9-20 is depressing

[tawny seal]

I need help

It won't let me show my units for some reason

[night lichen]

any recommendations

[fickle loom]

try eironn on vaden he's annoying when kept alive. rowan in front of thoran. tasi middle back hopefully she survives shem's initial hit.

[summer cedar]

read pins in #classic-questions . they'll give you the best comps up to lvl 160.

[summer cedar]

who does fawkes coffin? without knowing that I'd try brutus shem eironn rowan rosa 1-5.

[night lichen]

oh lemme check

fawkes coffin the vampire guy

[summer cedar]

ok. try the lineup I gave u, except luci in for brutus cuz I think he'd survive against only 2 LB. if he can ult once that'd help, but if he cant swap brutus back in

[night lichen]

got it thanks bob

[wide gust]

stuck so bad any advice?

[tawny seal]

@fickle loom the most annoying is when I get down to just tasi but I have a tasi and eironn still losing lol or being brought to time

[summer cedar]

rowan center back. lyca behind daimon (5), arden position 3. lmk if it fails

[fickle loom]

expect seeing that forever

[wide gust]

ok i will try!

[tawny seal]

@fickle loom everytime I see her I wish I had safiya

[fickle loom]

you just have to pray that you get more than one hero when tasi remains. preferably rowan is still alive at that point because he's tanky and heals, but that obviously doesn't happen often. i actually preferred using ferael against tasi but i have a 30 SI ferael that weakens tasi a lot. daimon > them both though.

(had 30 SI ferael before even eironn lol. enabled some things, hurt me in other ways probably, but i don't exactly regret it. :p)

[tawny seal]

Both my Rowan and Ferael are Si 20 so far working on Si 30 Rowan then Eironn and then Ferael but Rowan is also 9/9

[fickle loom]

@tawny seal wait i just noticed. shouldn't you have at least 30 SI rowan by now 🤔 ?

[tawny seal]

@fickle loom Si 25 so soon

[fickle loom]

did you not pick emblems from past events

[tawny seal]

@fickle loom I know one of the latest trips I was on a family trip so I missed it and before I didn't know what I was doing I started in August

[wide gust]

@summer cedar so after quite a bit of tries it seems it does not work everyone dies 2 quickly and daimon gets ganged up and dies rather quick 2

[fickle loom]

i say that cause one event = 100 to 140 red emblems lately and we get about one event every month if you combine everything. so 3 months almost guarantees one 30 SI f2p if you invest in it. but not too late to start, in the meantime if you get to a 2v1 against tasi imo resetting enough should land you a win even if annoying.

[summer cedar]

swap arden lyca? see if daimon can self-buff fast enough

[wide gust]

👌 will try

[tawny seal]

@fickle loom Yeah see im lucky I summons but I always low roll in combat I pull 3 back to back Talenes but I can't seem to high roll in combat

[gray merlin]

Stuck in kings manse need help with lineup

[night lichen]

@summer cedar this is what i used bob. i upgraded fawkes si to 10

i think I'm too weak for now. my only chance to win is double shem ult

[mild geyser]

charm ferael

[night lichen]

charm?

[summer cedar]

this is a different stage so the same lineup isn't guaranteed to work every time. lemme check.
also charm is nemora's ability

[mild geyser]

one of nemoras skills

[night lichen]

yeah nah i just showed what i used to make it

I'll see, my nemora isn't that strong but I'll try her

thank you

[summer cedar]

if luci doesnt ult, drop him. also again, who does fawkes coffin?

[night lichen]

brutus

i made it

[stone iron]

https://gyazo.com/c7862d99e7724eda5ef7b5f2b0a355c7 is this a good formation for boss?

[summer cedar]

borrow an ezizh or nemora and luci are flat useless. ice shem has heal-block

[stone iron]

ohhh so who should i put instead, rosaline?

[summer cedar]

? i said borrow an ezizh, assuming you don't have one. if you cant get one, remove all ur sustain characters and go for burst.

[stone iron]

yeah i dont have an ez available so no rowan either?

[summer cedar]

weekly reset is at next reset. id wait for an ezizh merc, then hit it bc TR reset is 2 resets away. basically, u need an ezizh if u wanna do any real kind of dmg to this boss.

[stone iron]

ah okay thank u

[nimble ember]

help :X, any tip or change

7-24

[snow stream]

25-8

[dusky lion]

I’m just not progressing in this stage lol, any ideas? My eironn keeps getting the banish. If I try to grab Belinda then Kane just deletes eironn. If not Belinda puts out fair damage. Nara didn’t do much grabbing her either.

There’s a winning formation:
Daimon

brutus
Eironn
talene
Lyca

But mine doesn’t do anything. They had a M+ Brutus so must have been difference. Brutus wasn’t helping me out this stage.

[summer cedar]

who is Kane? Kane in-game looks like a Demon Lord with a flaming sword, and he's not playable or played against in campaign. brutus never does much of anything lbr, he just eats dmg for 9 secs and dies having done nothing else.
try rowan tasi lyca eironn ferael

[compact heart]

Any tips? 365 KT

[summer cedar]

iirc I beat this w tasi rowan lyca eironn saf/fera, pick one of the last 2. mix and match some positions

[stone iron]

@nimble ember replace gwyneth with wukong maybe, wukong is an insane carry early

maybe shemira for arden so u have another support

[nimble ember]

my gwyneth is the second top dmg in my team ;s

[stone iron]

yeah but ur formation has 3 carries

[nimble ember]

so. gwy for wukong and shemira for arden

i'll try it

[stone iron]

yeah wukong is insane early

[pale kettle]

Any lineup suggestions for King's tower 404? Every team I try instantly dies within seconds

[stone iron]

@nimble ember gwyneth is only really good late game so that switch should be better, arden and shemira is less of a deal since arden peaks at 141

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle

[dusky lion]

Thane 🤭 just woke up my bad but I will thanks @summer cedar

[primal jasper]

Can anyone help?

[pale kettle]

change Estrilla and rowan @primal jasper

[primal jasper]

Wow thx! @pale kettle

[regal dragon]

Help

@pale kettle got wukong 100

[pale kettle]

Nemora
Brutus
Mirael
Wukong
Fawkes
@regal dragon

[summer cedar]

try brutus wu nemora mirael fawkes imo. lmao same

[regal dragon]

Thanks m8

Lemme try

Piece of cake

[spare falcon]

Any combination I have that might beat this now? Or should I just wait until tonight and just merc it?

[mild geyser]

charm ferael

[spare falcon]

So Nemora?

[mild geyser]

ye if that doesnt work try nara or something

nemora has to be opposite of ferael too

[summer cedar]

id drop thoran. luci 1 lyca 3 nemora 4

[spare falcon]

Put her in Lyca's spot and maybe drop Thoran since he just gets one shot? Nara didn't work. Also got one shot.

[mild geyser]

naras there so ferael doesnt use his spirits too much shes doesnt have to kill him

[ionic kestrel]

Hey folks! I’ve hit a bit of a wall. Any suggestions?

[wet violet]

I tried rowan fawkes rosaline but it didn’t work, switched to this and it’s kinda better but still meh 😦

[summer cedar]

3 tanks won't do u any favors. More support is key except ur supports r kinda limited. Maybe luci grez belinda rowan nemora/estrilda.

[ionic kestrel]

Ah, alright! Thanks!

[summer cedar]

Luci daimon lyca rowan arden maybe

[pale kettle]

Fawkes/lyca
Estrilla
Rowan
Lucius (call)
Ainz
@wet violet

[ionic kestrel]

That reminds me. From my current supports, which would you recommend I shove into the crystal? Or is there one I might want to start hunting for?

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions @ionic kestrel there helpfull wich hero usefull early and what u should pref.

[ionic kestrel]

Ah, thank you!

[wet violet]

Tks guys I’ll try

@summer cedar @pale kettle I can’t frontline lucius he’d never cast 😦

Got cced by ogi and just died

[pale kettle]

HOW he can cc by ogi - if he stay agains Estrilla?

[summer cedar]

I suppose it's just terminology, whether u consider the overhead flip cc.

[pale kettle]

Doesn't he slam his fists down on the ground to stun? A la HULK SMASH!

I was thinking he kicked him back - but just backline get cc not frontlane

@wet violet what about putting Lucius in the 5th position? Estrilda's charge can boost his energy really fast if he can put his shield up

Lyca/Daimon
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Ainz

so rosa run away and he cant cc maybe

[robust steeple]

Any thoughts on how I could beat this?

[spare falcon]

@mild geyser found a combo that worked. I just brought triple cc and it worked.

[pale kettle]

Fawkes/arden
Talene
Rowan
Lucius
Daimon
@robust steeple

[spare falcon]

@robust steeple I myself just beat that stage I had

Lucius
Rowan
Lyca
Thoran
Daimon

But plaque has a better idea.

[wet violet]

@pale kettle I got it thank you so much for the suggestion! I put lucius behind estrilda to stun ogi, fawkes behind daimon

[ionic kestrel]

Okay, I shoved Tasi and Lyca into the crystal and WOW, I’m not winning the fight, but they’re definitely helping a lot! I guess I really do need less tanks and more supports! Thanks for the input @pale kettle !

[robust steeple]

I didnt get it with any of those combos :/ I die hella fast or cant deal enough damage to kill the frontline before my daimon starts getting permacc'd

[pale kettle]

Lyca
Talene
Rowan
Lucius (call artefact)
Daimon
@robust steeple

[wet violet]

@ionic kestrel it's 3 support 1 tank 1 carry in front. I usually use fawkes rowan rosaline or lyca tasi arden

[ionic kestrel]

Good to know! Thanks again for the advice, I really appreciate it! I guess I was focusing too much on sheer bulk. XD

[robust steeple]

I beat it doing this

[pale kettle]

gz!

[gray merlin]

Looking for general team building tips only on chapter 8 in campaign, tower level 102, also would love input on a guild hunt team as right now I hit 1.4m before the timer runs out and really want that 1.5m chest

[pale kettle]

u allready read the pins in #classic-questions ? they are rly helpfull early game @gray merlin

[wide gust]

cant beat it any advice?

[pale kettle]

Daimon
Hogan
Rowan
Talene
Lyca
@wide gust

[wide gust]

rthanks will try!

@pale kettle ❤️ how did u make that team i thought i tried everything holy molly i got it Thank you so much man!

[pale kettle]

yw

[autumn pulsar]

Still stuck in this :/

[pale kettle]

show all heros @autumn pulsar

[pale kettle]

stop upgrade so much heros on L.

bound Ainz with Shemira.
after that try

Lyca
Hendrik
Rowan
Lucius (call)
Ainz

[timid sun]

i can win this,but brutus has long immune,so i cant win..

[summer cedar]

id try brutus luci rowan mirael arden. luci shud proc w arden roots
if not, mirael brutus arden rowan lyca

[timid sun]

i did it ,thanks

[summer cedar]

yw

[forest cliff]

Some help please

[pale kettle]

lyca
Talene/Brutus/Tasi
Rowan
Saurus
Ferael
@forest cliff

[forest cliff]

tasi worked, thanks

[pale kettle]

yw

[small cove]

Suggestions? I die like 20 seconds in, without taking anyone with me. I can activate the Silas and Ainz/Albedo trials, I can also ascend Lucius or Belinda to Mythic

[rigid birch]

get belinda to mythic, reset everyone to 140 and get belinda to 180

[brave oriole]

I would rather go for mythic shem Lucius

[small cove]

I cant mythic shemira yet

[brave oriole]

@small cove well, yeah yet, but soon. as about your stage,I'm curious if you have any elite rowan and rosaline, they would help a lot

[small cove]

I have elite+ rosaline

[brave oriole]

@small cove and no rowan? you only need one poor elite, anyway, what's this fight? lab or what?

[small cove]

No rowan
It's the the new voyage of wonders

[pale kettle]

Nemora
Belinda
Rowan
Brutus
lyca
@pale monolith u could try tthat

[brave oriole]

@small cove ah, you can use one merc there, have you asked around for a rowan +30?or Saurus

[pale monolith]

First my Nemora is lv 1. And Belinda front line?!

[valid pier]

Can I get suggestions specifically for Kane? I don't quite have his meta lineup.

[summer cedar]

my advice for all voyages, esp if u run shemira carry, is to not kill a weak enemy until really late. then kill it right before the boss w auto OFF to stockpile energy. then auto on against final boss and burst the shit out of it @small cove , if you'll excuse the french

[pale kettle]

no crytal place? @pale monolith

[pale monolith]

In about 20h

[brave oriole]

you can reset with a few diamonds

just tap on the slot

[pale monolith]

Nvm I switched Rowan and Belinda

[small cove]

@brave oriole I asked now for Rowan
What lineup would you suggest?

[summer cedar]

a kane budget lineup. keep in mind these are old so only use the budget lineups on this list, the meta lineup is prolly different now https://preview.redd.it/2de1gvcluwo51.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=239a8bae4e86985dd4e1cc8a06ae36feba91e07e

[pale monolith]

And need some good rng cuz I got really close but Saves is annoying

[brave oriole]

@small cove well, rosaline near shemira surely, but also Lucius with dura's call, and some. support, nemora or so

shemira need rosaline 24/7

[autumn needle]

Hey ! Can someone help me for that :

[pale kettle]

Where is ur free Wukong @autumn needle

[autumn needle]

At lvl 1 lol

[pale kettle]

Lyca
Lucius
Mirael
Saurus
arden

u could try that @autumn needle

[autumn needle]

I’ll try that, thanks a lot

[pale kettle]

and try make soon Mirael on L...

[prime smelt]

You'll want to use wilders against graveborn too. They have type advantage

[pale kettle]

I put everytime a dam saurus agains him.

[forest cliff]

Any suggestions?

[pale kettle]

Lyca/Tasi
Thoran/Brutus
Rowan
Saurus
Eiron
@forest cliff

[small acorn]

@forest cliff try this saf comp
Saf
Eironn
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi

@forest cliffif eironn gets melted all the time, then try sub fereal in instead of tasi or saf

[forest cliff]

neither lineup works

[clever jackal]

help im stuck on this

[pale kettle]

Tasi (call)
rowan (call)
Eiron - Try Call or Vitality
Saurus (call)
Saf (call/Blade)/Lyca
@forest cliff

Athalia/Fawkes
Lyca/Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Shemira/Belinda
@clever jackal

[raw rune]

should i change my pvp formation at all? I've lost almost all of my recent defensive battles

[pale kettle]

best possible lineup for trying this?

[raw rune]

should probably always use rosa, but i assume you're not using her because of silvina?

[pale kettle]

yes, she destroys me when I put rosa

[raw rune]

hmm... what is ezizh doing? could you put in a mage bait there?

[clever jackal]

ill try

[pale kettle]

it worked, thx

[raw rune]

ayy nice

[snow stream]

Best rng i got was shemira doing 18m, still can't beat it. Any ideas?

And lyca can dodge tank for like 30 seconds before i get wiped out

[velvet mason]

Any tips? I don’t usually get stuck in between bosses, I can also rent a merc before the week reset in a few hours

[summer cedar]

luci shem lyca rowan rosa. if rowan doesnt proc might wanna put chalice* on

[summer cedar]

since shem is 'tanking', u only need one other tank. luci at 1 if he procs his ult, if he cant brutus at 1. backline tasi arden rowan might work.
alternatively, if shem can kill the ulric quickly, shem luci/brutus(see above), then rowan arden tasi. arden center back bc u wanna root ferael if possible.
also do u have a lyca?

[velvet mason]

Thanks that worked! I swapped out tasi and Arden for Brutus and Rosa. I have an E+ Lyca, I can stick her in my crystal

@summer cedar I’m going to need to push a wilder to M soon, would you recommend tasi or eironn? I have 4 copies of each

[snow stream]

Got it finally, i love you

[summer cedar]

with just 4 copies I'd say Tasi. Eironn carries but only at A, which seems a bit far away, while tasi's support will help a shem-carry and is flexible enough to slot into different lineups. also yw 🙂

[summer cedar]

yw 🙂

[velvet mason]

@summer cedar Thank you!

[random bay]

Can anyone help me with this?

[wispy sigil]

What would you guys use here?

[pale kettle]

Hmm

If I had the names memorized I have a team and formation that would work

[fiery lagoon]

These are the heroes I have left... I really need some help to figure out how to win this stage, please someone help me

[pale kettle]

CHAPTER 33?

Holy sh

[brave oriole]

@fiery lagoon I dunno, but at least athalia would keep Rosa busy if put on.

[feral eagle]

That's an hard one...

[fiery lagoon]

That's what I'm trying, but there's Shemira nuking my whole team and I don't have enough cc to prevent that. My Nemora is tied to my Nakoruru, which is my only frontliner outside of Brutus

[brave oriole]

tried Cecilia on shem?

[feral eagle]

Either shemira or raine will nuke you I'm afraid

[fiery lagoon]

Not yet, I can try, but I need to replace either Athalia or the twins

This has been my best comp so far for my Daimon comp and against this team

[brave oriole]

@fiery lagoon try twins front

[fiery lagoon]

They melt

So Athalia on Shem?

[brave oriole]

the put athalia in shem. and move down daimon

nah

[fiery lagoon]

Athalia dies quickly and Shem still manages to ult and basically wipe me

[brave oriole]

@fiery lagoon try for a sec
daimon
Brutus
fawk
nako
Lucius

I'm curious if Lucius shield up

and then swap fawk with Lucius

[fiery lagoon]

I'm trying but first try Lucius died before ulting, sadly I don't have equipment for him as it's all on Gwyn and Estrilda

[brave oriole]

yeah he need at least shoes for. mspd

try him middle and fawk down

[fiery lagoon]

Managed to ult but still everyone dies as always

[brave oriole]

well, daimon have to be down then, so Rosa can't touch him, but fawk coffin shem, right?

[fiery lagoon]

Lucius middle goes to Rowam where Rosa melts him

Yeah Fawks gets Shem, Daimon can go anywhere, he's safe from Rosa

[brave oriole]

try Brutus twins front

[feral eagle]

Cecilia to shemira?

[brave oriole]

and nako up Backline

[fiery lagoon]

I also have a trial Silas Ainz and Albedo if they might do anything. @feral eagle who do I replace for Cecilia? Fawkes?

[brave oriole]

well, they may work, albedo and ainz, cuz of the sig +30

[fiery lagoon]

They have +27...

[brave oriole]

you will have 2 tanks then, and ainz daimon dps twins support

[fiery lagoon]

They're the trial ones

[brave oriole]

it's still good, def buff

you have 3 dimensionals so more def

but you can't get them during fight

[fiery lagoon]

So my team would be? Ainz Nako Albedo Daimon Twins?

[brave oriole]

@fiery lagoon you got them. already? if not, you can't take em without closing the fight

[gritty minnow]

Is this a good setup?

[fiery lagoon]

I have them already

[brave oriole]

well, try then, you will. figure out the best positions

not sure how nako works front up

so you can use fawk still

[fiery lagoon]

Albedo fronline melts, and Ainz doesn't really have a good position as if the fronline dies against Rosa, Shem kills him, and on the bottom there is Estrilda

Fawk is linked to Ainz sadly

[brave oriole]

then just use albedo only and not ainz

daimon should go well, if albedo Brutus tank. enough

but Brutus up still to hold Rosa

[fiery lagoon]

But albedo is pretty useless without other dimensionals

[brave oriole]

nako
Brutus
daimon
albedo
twins

[fiery lagoon]

Albedo just dies lol

[brave oriole]

he's naked? 😊

[feral eagle]

Can u actually get daimon to ult?

[fiery lagoon]

And same for Nako. She's full t2 but not faction. Nako has full faction t2. I can get Daimon to ult, sometimes even twice

But Shem just doesn't die, I can get her to around 40% hp at times even lower, but never close enough

[feral eagle]

What about
Cecilia

brutus
Daimon
nako
Twins

The atk reduction from Cecilia might let daimon snowball and not die

[brave oriole]

if she got time for circle

[fiery lagoon]

I think I already tried it but my shit Cecilia doesn't help enough, but I try again I might have used different positioning

[feral eagle]

Yeah right

Without boots will be hard lol

[brave oriole]

well, if shem. hit Brutus first maybe not

all you need, Cecilia to cast the circle 😥

[fiery lagoon]

Cecilia manages to make the circle but it's not enough sadly

[brave oriole]

I think fawk it's still the best to use for shem, just, i dunno the rest, maybe add Belinda to buff daimon?

[feral eagle]

Fawkes coffin shem?

[fiery lagoon]

I tried Raine but I need to remove Nako as she buffs her instead of Daimon. Yeah Fawkes gets Shem

[feral eagle]

Also you didn't showed mauler box

[fiery lagoon]

Cause it's a shit box... I have Brutus and Warek available. Also Khasos but I wouldn't really consider him

And Warek is basically naked anyway. I have already used Numisu and Saf

[brave oriole]

daimon should win in the end vs 4lbs

just you need some rng, is good fawk but I dunno, try daimon front vs estrilda and nako back

[fiery lagoon]

That fight was taken by Eironn

[eager token]

is it worth it to reset silvina and put the xp into an E+ so i can go past lvl 100 ?

[fiery lagoon]

I only have this one left... And I lucked out too much on the second with my elite Mehira, I tried for an hour just to see what I could do with a merc Mehira and by dumb luck I passed it

[brave oriole]

@fiery lagoon can your twins stay alive front down?

with daimon back

[fiery lagoon]

Nope

I really can't frontline my twins, they have full faction t2 equip and f3 but that's not enough... My support tree is at 38, I can't do much more for them 😅

[brave oriole]

I would focus on a team with athalia still, ccing Rosa and fawk to coffin shem. so maybe you don't need Brutus and can add daimon front instead of Brutus with Silas back

like
Silas
daimon
athalia
fawk or so
twins

[fiery lagoon]

My Fawkes sucks but I can try. I'm pretty sure Daimon there melts, same for Fawkes

[brave oriole]

well, for fawk can be, yeah

[fiery lagoon]

Yeah they instadie

[brave oriole]

do you have any hypogean left to use? or maybe a poor arden lol

[fiery lagoon]

Arden is liv1 lol I have Khazard and Zolrath but they're elite shit equip

[brave oriole]

yeah but just for the 30%def

[fiery lagoon]

Hm I can try

[autumn needle]

Hey, what is the best team i can build against wrizz atm ?

I have some free slots in my cristal btw

[normal dove]

Any ideas for this level?

[fiery lagoon]

Tbh at this point I believe my best strategy is to have Athalia proc when Shem does to interrupt her, but I haven't managed yet

[brave oriole]

try to get some faction buff, it's complicated when you have a few heroes

[wide gust]

any idea why i cant win? seems like i should idk something im not doing right i guess

[fiery lagoon]

IT'S FUCKING 00:30 AM HERE AND EVERYONE IS ASLEEP BUT GODDAMMIT FINALLY LETS GOOOOOOOOOO 3 HOURS OF RETRIES NO MERCS

[brave oriole]

aha, nice man, gz😁

[fiery lagoon]

Gotta change my name now, damn I need to go to bed now lol. Thanks guys for the help and the patience, I probably would have quit an hour ago lol

[summer cedar]

gz lol

[weak island]

Ideas? Super annoying

[crystal apex]

My teams for 33-36+

Any changes I should make?

[slow trellis]

Which mercenary do I take for this?

[marsh nymph]

Help pls, wanna save the merc for floor 80

[grave ruin]

Almost have enough shards for one of the supports from warriors glory who should I add to my team? Talene or ezizh?

[mild geyser]

fodder

[dire lintel]

Hey need help@with 253 mauler tower. Somebody can help or have an ss?

[grave ruin]

Stuck on this round who should I use

[summer cedar]

use this. also, rule of thumb, nara does NOT belong in frontline.

[young laurel]

So I can't get past this lvl the ads are almost doubled my power idek how to win

[summer cedar]

try luci hendrik fawkes silas ainz. also there are pins in #classic-questions that are a HUGE help in early game team comps.

[young laurel]

Okay I'll try it

Omg thank you so much

[elfin pendant]

Abit stuck again. Brutus is the only meatshield that lasts long enough to stall and Rowan frontline is an exercise in suicide. Belinda has full legendary gear atm.

[brave oriole]

@elfin pendant maybe replace nemora with rosaline

[patent oxide]

Hii. I'm fairly new to the game (started playing about 4 days ago).
Can someone recommend me a team? Thanks.

[elfin pendant]

I think i’ve tried that a few times

[patent oxide]

Should Saveas or Lucretia be my carry?

[summer cedar]

lucretia from lvl 0-100. saveas lvl 101-160. also that's a better question for #classic-questions

[patent oxide]

Well, can you help me make a team comp with the champs I've got? Screenshot above.

[summer cedar]

first off stop building L heroes. read the pins in #classic-questions they explain why it's an awful idea. try gorvo wu nemora lyca saveas maybe, but u rly need to set up ur fodder better cuz saveas needs more ascensions to carry.

[raven cove]

I'm getting rekt by Athalia, any Ideas?

[brave oriole]

@raven cove Lucius with call vs athalia, rowan middle etc

[raven cove]

Well that actually worked, thanks a lot. Don't know how I didnt come up with that lol. @brave oriole

[night herald]

I'm beginning to get close needing to spend some lab or Challenger tokens just wondering if I should pick someone to get closer to my first ascended or invest in cyhopogeans

[dapper canopy]

Ok I cant beat stage 9-37 just wont let me my line up is

And my friend beat it at a lower like pr level than this but I cant seem to and I cant level up anymore heros to gold becouse the tavern has been bad to me

[summer cedar]

you've made too many L heroes. your progress will stall hard some point in the near future because of that. read pins in #classic-questions for further details. I'd try skreg brutus nemora rowan belinda.

[dapper canopy]

Will do thank u

Should I maybe reset some of these heros?

[rugged bane]

Ogi and Arden are problematic as they stop everyone from doing anything

[elfin jackal]

how do i beat this stage? i have tried putting in arden but he only works in the 5th position bc of estrilda’s annoying aoe stun

[wispy tartan]

brutus in front of daimon almost always, you want daimon backline, brutus frontline so brutus tanks for 7 seconds, roars (increasing daimons dmg), then dies

also no point in eironn tbh, replace with another supportfor sure

[willow moon]

^ you want 1-2 tanks and 2-3 support, eironn isn't really doing anything here. the only time you'd really use him with daimon carry is if there's a pesky Arden you need to stop and you don't have a Nara or Athalia

[wispy tartan]

I mean daimon can do well in eironn comp... but that needs eironn to be actually built, not just E+

[river rivet]

I need some help, idk what do i build to progress in campaign

[summer cedar]

luci hogan mirael rowan arden shud work. try to build mirael and overlevel her

[idle marlin]

I just started and I'm having some trouble progressing what should I do?

[summer cedar]

try reading pins in #classic-questions . lots of helpful info/guides

[valid latch]

This is what I have after messing up on the first account by making to many L’s. For most part I stuck to the pins and went with these fools lol, any suggestions from here on out?

I’ve been lucky pulling some Izold’s

I’ve been using this line up for the faction bonus, plus Rowen and Roseline are dope at this point

My bad this line up right here

[hollow timber]

11-40, it's melting me too fast for daimon to melt back, I used this lineup for the last like 10 stages. Any swaps or just level up?

Talene is a meat shield cuz she always comes back 1-2 times. gorvo's early game dunk with a bit of luck is really effective, but he melts as well, so it's up to rosaline/tasi to get cc going so daimon can keep ulting, also to buy time for talene

I tried nara to hook mirael or morvus but she cant kill them so it's just a 1 for 1 timeout corner, and she usually gets outnumbered anyway

[valid latch]

@hollow timber do you have Lucius? Maybe try Rowen and Shemira for sopport and dps, along with stitchy

[hollow timber]

no lucius but ya i can rowan, what order should i place em

[valid latch]

Lightbringers faction to counter all those maulers

[hollow timber]

i dont think rowan will be doing much damage lol, dont have much DPS in lightbringers

[valid latch]

Rowen is for support

[hollow timber]

ya, rosaline is supp rn but she's top damage a lot lol

[valid latch]

Talene and Wu Kong front line, Shemira top back(3) Rowen(4) Roseline(5)

@hollow timber

Talene(1), Wu Kong(2), Shemira(3), Rowen(4), stitchy(5) @hollow timber

[boreal grail]

Any suggestions?

[rich ruin]

Can't beat this stage even with a Merc. Any ideas?

[hollow timber]

@valid latch aight ill try it ty

[rich ruin]

Nvm managed to do it after like 50 tries

[hollow timber]

Lol or not

ill swap some gear around but that absolutely sucks lol

nah that setup melts instantly every time @valid latch

[valid latch]

Damn lol

[vivid harbor]

I thought power caps only existed for end game chapters? You learn something new everyday

Any advice?

[light shard]

Who are the two best tanks between:
Anoki
Lucius
Daimon

[tired copper]

swap Talene for someone who actually stays alive

[vivid harbor]

That's a tall order lol. Talene is what's keeping the squad alive, but i'll try your suggestion out

[tired copper]

you have rowan lucius, that's quite a bit

as long as arden roots i don't see why lucius can't ult

[vivid harbor]

Rowan almost insta dies cuz of silvina, as soon as he goes down, so does lucius

[tired copper]

wait, can't you ascend belinda? (and so ainz)

or I guess you need another L+ hero for crystal

[tired copper]

hmm does rowan have call?

[vivid harbor]

Should I ascend her? (If I can find another hero to use for the crystal). I'm pretty sure he does

[tired copper]

get a second opinion but i think so

[prime smelt]

What would you use to ascend belinda? @vivid harbor

[vivid harbor]

Hogan, no?

[prime smelt]

but hes 1 of your 5 in crystal so your level will drop

[vivid harbor]

I know, but I feel like I have enough fodder from the other factions to ascend another hero to L+

[prime smelt]

That may be so but all your crystal heroes level will drop. Is that worth it just to advance a bit further in story right now? try working on replacing hogan in crystal first, then ascend belinda

[vivid harbor]

sounds good, thank you

[prime smelt]

yeah. if you have another hero that's an ascended hero, readily available for L+ or higher, try leveling with them. You might also want to level with other ascension hero besides that one due to legendary tier heroes being capped at level 160 (Hogan, Golus, Arden, and Niru are all L tier heroes)

@vivid harbor took me awhile to send that so wanted to make sure you it

[elfin jackal]

any optimizations

[cedar totem]

I’m brand new. What should my main 5 be?

[prime smelt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/780507085758529536/Guide4-1.jpg courtesy of Phoenix (Oden Cult Leader)

[cedar totem]

Thank you mirraball

[vivid harbor]

@prime smelt If I were to follow your logic/advice, would Thoran be a good option to level? I have enough copies/food to ascend him to L+

[prime smelt]

Thoran is pretty good through mid-late. He'll need good comp but he's a great tank if you can get him up there earlier on

great tank for where you're at in early game

[pale kettle]

Been stuck here for like 3 days ;_; Any help please?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777543160112218123/782514588608495646/Screenshot_2020-11-29-11-53-14-31_47e34770686d588e926c728cacae2c43.jpg

[pale monolith]

Switch Nemora with Rowan,also Daimon can be a good carrier

[weak island]

Ideas? I could also post the new mercs cuz it's a new week

[pale monolith]

That lvl is extrememly hard to pass, I'd go with Wu Kong, Rosaline, Daimon, BelindaNemora,Thoran (Also you really need to get Rowan)

[weak island]

I know I do, just my luck, I am requesting a merc Rowan though
I'll try this

[pale monolith]

K, Wu Kong and Thoran in front,back Daimon Rowan and Belinda would be ideally. Also I can lend you a Rowan mercenary but it's only L @weak island

[urban olive]

Any help with clearing this stage? Tried a few lineups but no success

[weak island]

If I could, that would be lovely, thanks @pale monolith

[pale monolith]

Sorry for getting back so late,my ID is 88757299; You can add me in Friend Setttings

[weak island]

All good, sent

[pale monolith]

Accepted,my IGN is Gabi

[weak island]

Coolio, thanks

[cold cosmos]

How do you do this XD

[charred ermine]

@cold cosmos i used a sacrificial front line mage and just let eirron pull to victory

[deep ice]

Whos better lyca or tasi

[pale kettle]

@deep ice first, that goes into #classic-questions and second, they have different usage, so neither is better than the other.

[fickle loom]

don't put eironn against brutus that's suicide. at that level lucius should be able to tank brutus fine, otherwise rowan is usually my top brutus tank pick followed by tasi talene thoran nara lyca in that order (kind of). but also at that level how are you losing 👀

[cold cosmos]

it was a joke acc where I dont push

[pale kettle]

Tasi
Saurus
Eiron
rowan
Lyca
@cold cosmos

w8 what - ur rowan is sl <20? ^^

[fickle loom]

still. do you not still win anyway with that lineup lol

[cold cosmos]

i wish i screenshotted that 1 time i actually lost lol

[pale kettle]

so just look on old battle fights^^

[fickle loom]

f

@pale kettle you can't see old losses

[pale kettle]

ahh I was thinking he meaning old battle win of other acc^^ - but he can see what other people pick

[olive thicket]

Stuck since 2 week a team to suggest to me ?

[pale kettle]

@cold cosmos

we dont know where u stuck @olive thicket

[urban olive]

Any help with this?

[pale kettle]

Daimon
Rosa
Mirael
Thoran
Rowan/Fawkes
@urban olive

[fickle loom]

this is what a early game comp should look like...just eat the bullet and rely fully on mirael smh

[urban olive]

Ive tried with Mirael too, couldn't clear it, will try again

[pale kettle]

Tasi
Talene
Rowan
Lucius
Daimon
@icy plume u could try that without merc - but not sure

[fickle loom]

posting here is apparently good luck lol, first try. (tried a lot earlier didn't work)

[urban olive]

Will try this thank you

[fickle loom]

that's because you're not relying fully on mirael, you leveled rosaline instead of her. mirael should be lv141 when everyone else is closer to lv100's, with everyone at lv120 here mirael should be lv160.

[pale kettle]

Main Carry 20/40 level over all. Easy to say that - and Mirael one of the main Carrys for level <161

[urban olive]

Ya I already did that with rose before I got to know I had to L+ non-ascendant units :(

[fickle loom]

you can use 20 diamonds to reset rosaline back to lv120 and level mirael to 140/141, or you can just wait a bit. not a costly mistake at all, at worst 1~3 days in a game that lasts years ^^

[urban olive]

Oya I totally forgot about resets, it won't change her tier tho right?

[fickle loom]

yeah it just resets back to lv1, then you can level mirael to 140/141 first then level rosa back to somewhere around 120 depending on how much you have left.

[pale kettle]

Talene I prefer Vitality.
Daimon idk. ( u can test something else)
Lucius call if u can use more as one call ( if not Vitality)
Tasi on call also
@icy plume

[urban olive]

@fickle loom this is fine right, just one last question. I have only one artifact till now, Dura's Grace, whom should I give it to? Mirael?

Okies thanks a lot guys!

[pale kettle]

Try Nemora/Arden/Lyca instand saf @pale kettle

no u dont need. - u think just cause u have an dark hero u should use him?^^

In my eyes ist that just her job. the 30%.
Dont work what I wrote?

@pale kettle

[bronze nova]

Need ideas for a 3rd comp for ch 32, or do I need to wait till I can ascend my daimon?

[pale kettle]

idk u first and second comb and lineup from 3th enemys @bronze nova

[bronze nova]

1st team is something along the lines of
Ainz, Arthur, albedo, talene, filler
2nd is
Eironn, lyca, Tasi, safiya, rowan

[pale kettle]

and ainz/albedo connected with? Belinda & Shemira?

[bronze nova]

Yes

And Baden

[pale kettle]

U can try to make a comb with Lucius, Gwyn. Saurus, Brutus, ferael, Fawkes, hendrik

[bronze nova]

I'll see what I can do thanks

[pale kettle]

but if the information's right in next patch is chapter 31-36 easiger. So maybe need just w8 few days.

[bronze nova]

Oh yeah that's happening, I might wait till then lol

[bleak knot]

Help, idk how to line up em properly

[weak island]

Ideas? No I don't have Rowan before anyone asks, except the merc

[next heron]

Need lineup help for early to midgame pls. Newbie here.

[wooden island]

Ok I have a question, all the top players in the TR for ice shemira, when I watch replay they never lose healing. Saurus heals them the whole fight 90s. When I fight her, she does her little blizzard thing and none of my heroes gain health back, why? Same team comp as them,

Ezizh
Saurus
Warek
Grezhul
Twins

All ascended except M ezizh. Can’t get out of silver rank because of it.

[pale kettle]

maybe try call on ezizh- but not rly know that comb. I play still with Saurus, rosa, rowan, twins and ezizh and get just D1^^ @wooden island

[fickle loom]

can't tell what you're missing without looking at your heroes, ezizh and grezhul are both super RNG although ezizh 30 mitigates some amount of rng. you can do "perfect" ezizh by hitting his skills manually before shemira casts but don't ask me how i don't bother.

[rare umbra]

Help please

[pale kettle]

my rowan has no t1 gears, 3/9 furniture, SI24(working on 30), 4s will he be able to frontline for chapter 23 content?

should yes

[fickle loom]

@rare umbra your problem is not in lineup you're leveling your heroes all wrong. your belinda should be lv161 or higher while everything is lv140-ish or lower. why are you leveling lyca of all things? double carry is pointless, drop the daimon. saurus provides nothing here. add more supports: arden rowan rosaline tasi nemora etc.

@pale kettle i already answered you in #classic-questions and you clearly know this is the wrong chat.

[pale kettle]

oh, i didnt see the ping mb @fickle loom

[fickle loom]

drop fawkes for arden. might as well put lyca in lucius's spot i don't think he's tanking anything like that.

and arden locks down 3 heroes

[dim bluff]

Im sorta stuck any changes i should make i have plenty of resonating slots

[olive thicket]

Can u sugest me a team for this group ans for a main team because im stuck since 2 week

[fickle loom]

literally 254 level difference from enemy, still alive at the end of battle.

[potent jasper]

Stuck since 1 week pls help

[warm swan]

@potent jasper You have to check the Beginner's Guide. You have leveled too many to L. And you don't have a clear carry. Also, Eironn is trash at that level.

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle try
Lucius
rosa
rowan
shem
fawkes arden or hypogean etc

[twin forum]

Any idea how to win this xd?

Class clown obviously

[potent jasper]

@warm swan okay thank you

[old gazelle]

Help please

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle Lucius got call? he should get time. for shield if so

I haven't said this setup

then try
Lucius
lyca
rowan
shem
rosa

[fickle loom]

don't try to kill kelthur first that just invites his shadow to keep dealing damage anyway. eironn on safiya should do well enough, basically swap eironn and saf. everything else should be fine but i would also give ferael a try instead of safiya. safiya does deal with tasi slightly better but ferael deals with ulmus.

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle fawk coffins who? shem?

[old gazelle]

Ok!!! Thanks @fickle loom 🥰 🥰

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle yeah I know, but, you can use Brutus and not Lucius to put him top and survive

[rich slate]

Which five should I focus lvling up and what line up should I use?

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions @rich slate

[rich slate]

Oh ok

[lapis oar]

Help please

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle mhm, I dunno then, maybe help you more, charming ferael.
rosa
Brutus
nemora
shem
rowan
restart if not charmed ferael on start

@pale kettle I. meant, this ss you posted but with fawkes

[lapis oar]

Can I have a bit of help too :(

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle lyca slot

[weak island]

Ideas? I was recommended to use Saurus but Idk, haven't tried yet

[brave oriole]

@lapis oar I dunno. man
try
tasi
rowan
lyca
eironn
ferael

np👍

yeah, old story 😂 usually 30x pulls in a row it's better, it's a guaranteed elite

[lapis oar]

Damn almost won thank you

[brave oriole]

but you need blue blood for having that much patience 😂

this, it's one of the reasons why I'm having alts, I can control myself better 😂

deppends what you got already. twins or talene anyway

[dark bison]

anyone under lvl 330 SS for ch32-56 ?

[brave oriole]

the stargazer or what?

well, you can chose any hero to stargazer

but i would go for twins or talene, 100%

you got twins e+?

you need for expedition e+

more than talene

abyssal expedition

militia or however

yeah, but what I mean, you need twins e+ to be able. to use em there

and they the most usefull

[frigid nimbus]

He says that before you start stargazing for Talene, it's better to obtain two Twins copies

Having them as E+ is better than a copy of Talene as you can use them in various modes that needs them to be at least E+ like Abyssal Expedition

[weak island]

Ideas? I heard Saurus is good for this but I havent tried yet

Just tried it, Saurus dies way too fast

[twin forum]

No one?

[dusky mirage]

tips?

[charred ermine]

@dusky mirage did that with a

Atha
-tasi
Eirron
-rowan
Safiya

[brave oriole]

@dusky mirage I have forgot. my setup of this
but it was
eironn
ferael
lyca maybe
rowan
safiya

[dusky mirage]

ty guys

[raw rune]

what should i do here?

[brave oriole]

this boss is kinda impossible without ezizh

so i dunno, go for Saurus rowan rosa etc

[raw rune]

yeah wow she's hard, what does ezizh do in this?

[brave oriole]

silent her

so she cannot shield up

[raw rune]

oh wow

[brave oriole]

yeah you can't do much without ezizh sadly

[raw rune]

only +20 or higher is already applied for in mercs

[brave oriole]

but then you won't have dps, Saurus gets you a better score I guess

[raw rune]

probably yeah

[warm swan]

Can try with a high Solise. But effect won't be as much as Ezizh

[pale kettle]

I know i can do it with talene merc, but i don’t really want to use merc in here, can someone help please

[raw rune]

none of the mercs are above +10

even a 5 star one is +10

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle I would try shemira still
fawkes
rowan
rosa
shem
Lucius

[pale kettle]

k ill try

[warm swan]

@raw rune

Just borrow that Ezizh. It's still better than nothing

[brave oriole]

just restart if fawkes coffin shem, until. she dodge

[raw rune]

this is the best available one, the best one is mythic+ +30

[pale kettle]

Oh, if she dodges it, she die

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle possible, due to gear etc maybe.
try
shem
rosa
rowan
Lucius with call
fawk

but if not works, eironn then. I'm. curious, fawkes coffin shem, right? so you can try with eironn lyca tasi then and maybe rowan and safiya

I would say,
safiya
rowan
eironn
tasi
lyca,
but your tasi is low so I. don't know

[pale kettle]

both fawkes coffin both shem. I have only one doubt: For that stage, rosa need to go rowan or shem?

[brave oriole]

shem

[pale kettle]

oh thats it

@brave oriole tyvm

[brave oriole]

np, gl with the stage

[bleak knot]

Any ideas?

Im kinda stuck on this level

[bleak bridge]

Wow talene Even at E+ is amazing

[bleak knot]

Wdym

[lethal tree]

Why are you not using resonating crystal

[bleak knot]

Cuz i dont know how it works

[warm swan]

Read the Beginner's Guide @bleak knot

[bleak knot]

@warm swan i dont see anything about restoring crystal

[warm swan]

@bleak knot

[valid hamlet]

Am I severely under leveled or do you guys see a possible comp here

[brave oriole]

@bleak knot resonating crystal, it's a feature

[humble lark]

What would you recommend for the best set up?

[brave oriole]

@humble lark mostly Lucius shem front, rowan middle rosa near shemira, and the last can be fawkes arden etc, by situations. but use dura's call in Lucius

[summer cedar]

is rosa doesnt proc drop her for lyca. definitely swap gorvo for brutus. see if that works
as to your question, you may be underleveled, but any stage that the game allows u to start can be beaten

[wheat gulch]

I need help, I can't beat this stage...I tried 30 times

[summer cedar]

who does tasi banish>

[wheat gulch]

She gets killed fast

[summer cedar]

that's not what I asked. tasi has a skill called banish that turns an enemy a pale greenish color, effectively removing them from battle for several seconds. who does she banish?

[brave oriole]

@wheat gulch this its a very wrong team. keep using rowan rosa in your setup and adjust the rest. like for now
fawk
thoran
rowan
shem
rosa

[wheat gulch]

Belinda

[hazy mesa]

I need some assistance

[summer cedar]

get some advice from the pins in #classic-questions . given what u have I'd go luci brutus nemora belinda tasi maybe.

[primal jolt]

he said the same in #classic-questions without any question

no clue what he even wants

[summer cedar]

I imagine he wants a lineup. is what it is I guess

[brave oriole]

he posted a ss, so yeah

[primal jolt]

mb. didn't see that lul

[hazy mesa]

I thought tht would be obvious but my apologize for not being specific

[primal jolt]

it is obvious. I was just confused because you asked for help in questions too but without a ss and I didn't see it here

[valid hamlet]

Im probably underleveled. I lost this fight

[hazy mesa]

Do i ned to lvl them or just stick with my current level?

[summer cedar]

it may help to swap daimon to the 5. do u have a rowan or arden?

[hazy mesa]

I still lost😫

[valid hamlet]

Holy crap I beat chap 17 with that much cp lol ty @summer cedar I kept Daimon where he was but dropped Rosa for Lyca

[summer cedar]

hey if it works it works. Gz!

[bleak knot]

@pale kettle prob put tanks in the front

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle is Rosa dying there fast?

Lucius have dura's call?

you can try shem front up, Rosa down and Lucius back of Rosa. and maybe fawk instead of lyca, back of shem

or, even better, arden and not fawk

[earnest hinge]

Finding this level impossible

[brave oriole]

@earnest hinge Lucius is much better to use than izold. izold it's good at +30 and 3/3 only.

[mortal prawn]

Why choose:
Lucius, Rowan, Izold, Silas, Ainz / Nemora.
at any order

[brave oriole]

so try up
rosa
shem
rowan
Lucius call
fawkes

[mortal prawn]

@earnest hinge Try Lucius - Izold Ainz - Rowan - Silas, if that doesn't work, at that order ( frontline-backline top-bottom )

[brave oriole]

there's shemira lvl 240....and she's a gb vs 4 lbs..

[toxic fern]

Hey, these are the heroes I have, I’m using the top 5, do you think these are good or does anyone see a better combination? Also always fiddle with my lineup but not sure what’s best.

[brave oriole]

@toxic fern maybe keep lvling shemira, stop the others at 120,and use rowan middle for support. rosaline should be close to shemira, and shemira Frontline since she will be overlvled. the other Frontline may be for now.. Brutus, but i would work for a better Lucius

ascending rosaline that fast won't get you anywhere, you need to push shemira ascension and a tank, for a strong Frontline, Lucius..

[toxic fern]

Ya? Think Rowans worth it even though he isn’t ascended more? I took him out because I just never got another of him to level him up with.

[brave oriole]

yeah I think so, worth to use him even elite, he's like the best lb so I would get more copies of him

[summer cedar]

I'd strongly recommend saveas carry over shem, esp as we dont know if he can get copies for L+ shem anytime soon. hopefully by 160 your pool will be more flexible

[toxic fern]

Okey Dokey, who should I take out? Namora?

[royal thorn]

Any suggestions to get this stage done? Would be much appreciated

[brave oriole]

saveas can't do better than shemira Rosa combo, surelly

[summer cedar]

shemira prior to 161 is meh at best bc of skill unlock barrier. technically mirael is consensus best carry from 100-160 but saveas is close second

[brave oriole]

I dont agree, but well, that's me. going for mirael or saveas, would be an issue, bcs you need tanks

while shemira can easy tank and kill everything with rowan rosa, nvm much her lvl

[summer cedar]

my rec team for u is brutus luci saveas rowan nemora/arden. this 5th slot is flexible, lyca works too

u dont 'need' tanks, ie burst comps. the pins in #classic-questions all agree fodder carries are superior up to 160

[brave oriole]

just, i play more than them 😁 you can't follow Whales guides, they have played on low. lvls ages ago

[summer cedar]

that's not to say don't build shemira for 161-250ish. but she's not the optimal hero for this zone

[brave oriole]

it's a strategy, going for shemira, leaves you fodders available for rowan Lucius rosaline.

going for mirael would not, going for saveas mirael have no use

[toxic fern]

Like this?

[summer cedar]

you're making a generalization about the guide makers that I don't think is true. no matter what time period we speak of, shemira shines best at 161+. they ALWAYS have use bc they'll pass on as fodder once you're done with them

[brave oriole]

@toxic fern yeah, just sometimes you may need to swap heroes from up. down, and fawkes sometimes instead of saveas

@summer cedar look, I have played, 6 accounts so far, always the same strategy, and never never failed

[summer cedar]

also the pins were updated literally this week. they're not "old" or "in the past" guides

congrats, and more power to you, but personal anecdote is not superior or inferior to any other advice

[brave oriole]

all the ppls who followed the guides without shemira have been always behind of. me

no, but the guy already have a shemira l, a rowan and a rosaline for support, so it's gonna work. very well for him

[summer cedar]

whatever. this isn't the channel for this. the pins are there for a reason. ignore them if you please; I can't stop you

[royal thorn]

I think these pictures got lost in your arguments, some suggestions would be much appreciated!

[brave oriole]

@royal thorn tasi is always an issue cuz of the banish, is your daimon free to hit?

@royal thorn and I don't know, why don't you use shem still as carry? she would be much stronger with Rosa, than daimon etc

[royal thorn]

Shem is not better than my daimon unfortunately. i have tried. And also daimon dies before banish. She doesn’t really survive frontline, but athalia is an issue as will

[brave oriole]

yeah, she is. usually ferael helps with athalia

[royal thorn]

No, my daimon works better than shem. Trust me, i have tried

[brave oriole]

well, then, find a way to get more support, like instead of Brutus, a hypogean for 30%def more

@pale kettle nice 😁

@pale kettle won't change a lot, if shem it was m+, yeah, but she's not 😥

huh, wait, you want to fodder daimon? or I'm. wrong

this its a waste, don't

[prime smelt]

Don’t use ascension tier heroes for fodder

[brave oriole]

no, golus yes, but safiya never

I would ascend safiya the first for maulers

I can't think of any ascended mauler that worth to fodder

it's abyssal expedition, but not sure after what chapter it's unlocked for you

[prime smelt]

After ch 16-1

[royal thorn]

@brave oriole I just tried shemira instead, she does nothing

[brave oriole]

@royal thorn show me your current setup

[prime smelt]

AbEx is only active at certain times. There isn’t one now

[final star]

Any tips ?

[royal thorn]

@brave oriole What else is there to do?

[summer cedar]

that lineup is p much perfect. I assume the lack of SI30 on eironn is holding u back, as is M gears, as the dodge will keep ur guys up and the acc is huge w lyca +20. that said, u can maybe swap ferael in for saf if u have him

[final star]

Ya also which artifact would u suggest

[summer cedar]

I use eye

[mild geyser]

call for pvp

[summer cedar]

facts. but for this battle eye for sure

if luci doesnt proc his ult, swap him for arden

honestly, I'd try it anyway. shem rosa arden rowan lyca has potential, in that order

[final star]

Couls be the lack of gear on other heroes since my team dies before I can actually get skills off

[summer cedar]

perhaps drop lyca for fawkes. I'm curious as to who he coffins

at the 5 I think

bottom. 1-5 is labelled on the screen when u remove all ur heroes

[earnest hinge]

Thanks @brave oriole and @mortal prawn ... yhe screenshot i grabbed was of a random setup i had... i generally had lucius

[brave oriole]

@final star yeah, silvina jumps on who?

@pale kettle that's complicated, cuz of silvina on rowan. try up a low mage and Lucius back, to lure silvina from. rowan

[mighty wave]

Any good eironn formations for this stage?

[brave oriole]

@mighty wave swap rowan with tasi, and restart if rowan dies. you. may need call on eironn and chalice or grace on rowan

[mighty wave]

worked out thanks

[main mantle]

Good for start company?

[brave oriole]

@mighty wave np👍

[dense pecan]

Hello guys, i can't seem to beat this stage.. can I get some ideas what could work? My team can't last much and the best i was able to do was kill nara with shemiras dying breath

[brave oriole]

@dense pecan maybe keep your setup with rowan support
Lucius call
rosa
rowan
shemira
nara

[dense pecan]

Yes, that's my main team, but they slice though it like a knife through butter. I found out that replacing rowan with Lyca helps me keep up for atleast a while

I use arden instead of nara.but i tried what yo u recommended already too

Guess I have to wait and upgrade.my shem

[brave oriole]

nah, it's about artifacts, put grace on shem, call Lucius

[ivory parrot]

Any suggestions?

[drowsy mango]

What is the best team I could run with these characters?

[mild geyser]

Any ideas?

[wide gust]

any chance for advice? im stuck

[pale kettle]

Nara/Arden
Talene
rowan
Daimon
Lyca
@wide gust
or
Lyca
Talene
rowan
Hogan
Daimon

[wide gust]

@pale kettle thanks i will try! whos better nara or arden? never know when to use who

[brave oriole]

@wide gust fawkes

[wide gust]

dont have a copy of him sadly

[brave oriole]

try to get an elite then, he's usefull

[wide gust]

will to get him but that amonts to rng when i summon no?

[brave oriole]

deppends, if you have a full wishlist, the elite it's one from the 20 heroes thag you have put there

[round shale]

Stuck on 17-6, think I need arden back, fed him to Eironn

[brave oriole]

if it's any empty slot in your wishlist, it won't work at all

[wide gust]

well yeah ofc he is indeed in the wishlist just havent gotten him yet

[brave oriole]

@round shale well, try
eironn
shem
rowan
Brutus
fawkes or tasi

@wide gust yeah, it's rng from the 20 heroes, but it's not that bad 😁

[wide gust]

and @pale kettle its not working it seems that morvus always no matter what doges daimon ult everytime without exception

[brave oriole]

@wide gust I dunno, try maybe Brutus front up and lyca back of him, replace Hogan and nara I mean

[summer cedar]

luci skreg fawkes mirael nemora might work. otherwise luci skreg mirael rowan nemora

[wide gust]

@brave oriole yeah but the problem isnt that im not the cc or everyone dies but the fact that the dmg isnt going though the one whos doing the dmg so i cant do much either way no idea what that happens daimon has 132 acc so no idea why this is happenning

[brave oriole]

have you tried daimon up? put Rosa back of him see if any help