#lineup-help
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uuh. Moving him up worked. Thanks 😄
@pale kettle what's with the giant triangle lol. also how have you been beating two-comps till now? you could try something like a budget burst comp + stall/heal comp but it won't be easy...
got it @fickle loom
OMG yesss finnalyyy
@pale kettle mostly just talking about longterm planning since you didn't exactly give both enemy comps but hey if it's working don't knock it i guess
I don't like Gwyn. But as next I will wish me her. Never need her, but since chap 31. its ab bit harder @fickle loom
@brave oriole Finnaly i did it couldnt do it without ur merc for peaks of time
@pale kettle i use gwyn but not in "gwyn comp", i use her with eironn + lyca in a burst comp. it doesn't work for every stage but works well enough and saves rowan for another comp.
all is allowed until it's working :p
I could take gwyn from chest, but I think ill take flora.^^
never regretted my 5 stars gwyn tbh
I'm completely stuck here for 2weeks already nothing works
Ezizh mind controls, athalia destroys another backliner. Idk what to do anymore xD
Shemira
Rosa/rowan
Rowan/rosa
Lyca
Athalia
@acoustic kestrel
a lil help here?
show all heros @manic hinge
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Rosa
Belind/shemira
@manic hinge
Theowyn
@pale kettle they all got killin in 12 seconds
alrighty thanks
Rosa
Brutus
rowan
Lucius
Shemira/Belinda
@manic hinge
@pale kettle nope
I've tried like 3 dozen comes already, even guides online and I've been stuck on here for over a week now
it's the 2nd to last battle for misty valley and I'm infuriated I cant get it
and none of the comps even came CLOSE to winning they get totalled within the first 20 seconds
@manic hinge have charmed ferael?
What pvp lineups can I make off of these?
@austere dew afk
No line up? so its lvl gap?
Honestly at your lvl a day of afking gives more than hour of trying different setups
But if you want to push, there are setups on yt
That's what I'm using when I'm stuck
@austere dew take out Gwyn's level and give it to Rosa. Make sure she follows Ainz or Belinda (whoever is your dps)
@manic hinge
Aye I will try that. Thanks.
Any other suggestion? for line up its good alr?
@austere dew follow the beginner's guide in the pins of #classic-questions and it'll get you started properly.
Aye will do it.. Thankss
@lyric leaf the lineup past mid game and probably up until the beginning of end game, you'll be using Eironn, Tasi, Lyca, Rowan and Ferael. That's the meta around your level before you start making the God comp
@regal dragon if you are able too level up your wu-kong to be your carry so level him about 20 levels above for the damage increase
Ok i will
hes solid for lower chapters
okay so lineup is very bad i dont know how to cc isabella
@shrewd sorrel you can try to use nemora to mind control her if she teleports near her and doesnt instant kill her
oh well leave it just used gwnyth to cc her all good
idk too, cause I dont find isabella @shrewd sorrel
Should I summon i will get 10 faction scrolls after 1 hour and i will get lucius from warriors glory event i will spin for brutus
also thats silvinia
i used zaph in front as bait so saurus and gwyn could cc isa
damn
@brittle jacinth should i ?
i would summon to get more heroes to use and see if you could get a good tank or something
did you fill out your wishlist?
Ok brb i will summon all what i have and tell u what i get
i need some help too , im on chapter 20-32 and i cannot get passed it
From stones
tidus is solid and eironn is a good damage dealer, but hes kinda slow early on
eironn is prtty good
Bro pls thats "line-up" help. Not "tell me what u get from sums" 😄
hes asking for line up help and summoning could help that so he might have questions after summoning
@pale kettle God comp is way out of reach for now, thanks!
y but he dont need show all picks what he get. He can make after sums on pic what he have.
who should i use against ogi? brutus or would saurus b better
what level is your saurus and ascension level?
ascend the tidus thats a good damage dealer, for you @shrewd sorrel i would use saurus as his alt is super powerful because of the phasing saurus's
saurus is my main damage dealer right now in chapter 20
okay good
Ok
@pale kettle
Do I put them in the order you wrote?
can i get some lineup help here? https://gyazo.com/1997db5e0f6631e4394568f227995628
im dealing with double my combat rating so its very hard to get anywhere, im currently getting completely wiped
@brittle jacinth then just afk, you're under leveled
i cant level thats the problem there , i need to get more summons to get anymore levels with my saurus, shemira and lucius being the only ones i was able to level
@lyric leaf the backbone of this comp is Eironn and Ferael. You do not want them to be too close to each other. Putting them this way balances out the team. One side will focus a bit more on damage while the other focuses on support and cc
I get it, thanks a lot
Thanks bro Im at 8-8 now because of the line up
hm this is a weird set of factions you got
I know
Anyone know how to play this?
regress ur Heros. and level Wukong on 100- mirael 60 or 70 and then a second frontline.. Backline at least nemora. and u will level a bit @regal dragon
been trying for 10min still dunno how to lineup
Ainz
Lucius
rowan
Brutus
Daimon
@tepid holly
astra change the lucretia out for belinda so you can get buffed
I can ascend mirael should i do it ?
i personally dont like the lucretia myself but she can be good
L+ is max on mirael
Yes i mean getting her elite or L
just fodder food into mirael. Dont fodder heros u can do acedend into mirael.
Ok
Mirael is carry for under level 160
Got her elite
well i chose zaph from that event and got lucretia but i rlly dont like playing w her but they say she could be usefull
got lucretia out of summon
shes useful later not early game imo
@pale kettle is this good ?
nah. I tell u wukong level 100.^^ Mirael in the middle of backline^^
Cant get him 100 rn
can you level him at all?
okay so still lost
why hogan level 41? u know u need just level 5 heros @regal dragon
Ok i will retire him
At least. U level 5 heros all others u put in crystal
you only want to use 5 main people the level with so you can dump all your exp into them then the rest into crystal
hi guys i need help been stuck for quite a while any advice?
oh my i rlly dont like playing w mirael i used gwyn on that lvl with wu in front zaph back andKelthur olso up front
Ok
@wide gust i would use ferael for the fears instead of arden
those are my heros btw
@wide gust or use nara to pull that savaes out to damage him
i tried that with nara did not work howe3ver i didnt try with ferael
ferael will slow his ult down so he cant heal and then the others wont ult you either so that khasos probably does the second most damage next to savaes
well if he was not getting one shoted maybe he just dies within 5 sec
move the stitchy down bottom and change talene's position with thoran
ok will try
what is the gear on them?
So belinda gets killed 1sec
put her back row and change lucretia out with brutus
shemira
Wukong
Saurus
Lyca
Brutus
Gwyn
okay
daimon
for me?
if that doesnt work then try @pale kettle strat
and the rest just have E+ gear
@shrewd sorrel yes
@wide gust do you have 2 dura call's?
no? how can u have 2? i have 4 duras things but not 2 copies of one of them
you get them by enchancing them
it says i can do it from 13-40 and im 2 chapters away from that
ah yea forgot about htat
does stitchy get instant wiped against the khasos if you put him front row and change the talene to where the stitchy is?
dont know never tried i think he would tho i will try and update
it worked second time Great
@brittle jacinth something like this?
yea try that , cause when thoran gets taken out the talene will be targeted and you will get heals from her
ok i will try a few times
Niru is so strong wthhh
@shrewd sorrel fine
could i counter Arden w ceci?
not sure, but thinking not
@brittle jacinth seems he gets one ult off tho depended on rng and dies off and then i get blasted away
who is doing the most damage on the opposing team for you right now c4
khasos and saves does a bout the same around 200k
Niru can just counter burst and maybe stun/cc
put shemira top
and ferael in the middle?
then take ferael out and try rowan there for some heals
and his ult can stun the front row for you
ok will i will try that hopefully it works
In early I dont would ac. nimu. later yes, but early hm. nah. I pref. fodder for other heros
aight
any luck @wide gust
@brittle jacinth man it sucks just daimon dies
let me see the team again
and the bot side of the line up gets blownup by seveas
No luck @pale kettle
heres the usaul
lets see the hero list again please
Put Daimon behind Shemira
c4 why do you have 2 elite+ copies of daimon?
i need more food to get daimon to L and then i can make him L+
@tepid holly show again heros and stage dont find it
@brittle jacinth just lacking the food atm
20-42
Can someone Please help me out?
My biggest prob’s are vedan diving into my backline, feral fear (I tried using nem for feral but vedan still a prob)
Tasi/Daimon
Lucius
rowan
Brutus
ainz
@tepid holly
Lucius gets 1 shot no matter what, that’s another prob
@bleak bridge you need to try and get a faction bonus going there
Yh. Any suggestions?
@brittle jacinth is it a lost case? and i just need to wait for food for a week or 2?
lets see the heroes list frezza
to try talene/thoran for luc
@wide gust you should be able to get that for sure, i just cant really test whats going on as i cant see the battle happening
i see thanks again ill try to make it somehow on my on!
@bleak bridge the only faction bonus i can really see is replacing tasi with belind
No luck
I’ve been stuck here for like a month 😦 any suggestions?
@brittle jacinth ok ty
why does 2 vedans make a stage so hard, been stuck on this one for like a week now
@amber badge nara athalia last slot.. and maybe Saurus and not Brutus. keep trying until shem dodge fawk coffin
have you tried saurus insead of thoran @raw rune
thoran is a tank saurus is not
and saurus will literally do no damage
saurus has self sustain if he gets ult off, will he get shredded before then?
what exactly tanks thoran?
You tried to help me with this earlier this week I believe @brave oriole I tried that formation for like 3 hours and couldn’t get a good run going. I don’t mind using the mercs is they’d help
@amber badge bcs you need rosaline. try
athalia /nara
rowan
rosaline
shem
Lucius with call
look at the stat difference @brittle jacinth, thoran is already brought down to that revival thing at like 4 seconds into the battle
have you checked the haste stat on both of them? , also if you have a healer at all even a little bit of heals will help with that, saurus will get his ult and then he has a shield and extra damage that could push you past it
they both have 2 haste
do you have a dura's grace?
yes it's on rowan
i would put it on saurus and use call on rowan if you have it
call never works for me on rowan he's not tanky enough yet
much more reliable to use call on arden or mirael
ok so he's almost insta killed @brittle jacinth even with dura's grace
after a few tries when the vedan in front of him was rooted he killed that vedan and almost killed khasos @brittle jacinth but it left mirael dead
maybe put arden up, check if stay alive on Khasos, and put Rosa back of. mirael
I mean, no fawk at all
thanks you're a legend @brittle jacinth
np man
i used saurus as my main carry and still do even on chapter 20
once he gets his SI hes so good, because he can heal himself and then at level 30 si he can heal the entire party for lots
ee brutus niru and khasos all ascended, yeah he's good, only reason i stopped using him was because he dies so quickly, same with tasi
ive got screenshots of him doing soooo much damage let me see i can find them
well im back again
yeah i use him as merc in guilds
i love saurus man hes efficient and fast
as i said he's frail though, so earlier he wouldn't have been usable, but 141 arden made him usable
i also used 141 arden + lyca against 12-12
yeah true
it's a really good combo, only works in certain situations though, like these 2 12-12 and 149
yeah for guild hunt i use the merc of xperta he has saurus 30+
because lyca gives the haste so that arden can root at the start of the battle and then lyca also drops defenses so the enemies are weaker
true but somethimes its abit messy f u cant rlly place arden ive had lvls where arden got ccd every time
then you adapt, unless it's ogi + estrilda that's an exception
also wow saurus just beat a fucking ascended brutus
he shreds xd
holy moly like saurus is underrated sometimes not everyone likes to play w him i think
he had the shield up so the immunity shield did nothing, so satisfying to see
now i wanna have use with tasi if i can get use again with him
i Dont think he's underrated, there are just some more reliable stuff like eironn
but euhm i need some line up help
tbf saurus is e+ and tasi is only e, so i should wait for tasi to become e+ before saying anything
change belinda for wukong
ye i had thet when saurus was l and gwyn e tbhi find them a good comp some tmes
he has anti cc
ight
and it will get you a faction bonus for more health
okay great
bruh Arden 1hp Gwyn boutta whoop his ass w ability and arden roots and kills her
lol
brutus is back hopefully saurus will beat this annoying thing
anyone got tip for this first team?
if Brutus the problem u can use Fawkes as counter @raw rune
show us more heros @little root
you could try rosa for the athalia counter and the buff for the main damage dealer
fawkes is not a counter when he dies @pale kettle
oh wooow genius. Noone is a counter if he died. wtf
athalia insta oneshot her :/
well that's the thing, he never lives till brutus' immunity shield so...
Guys is Gwyn a Good Carry or not or should i begin focussing one someone else
@little root thats a boss stage right?
yes
gwen is good for level 220 and above
@little root
Thoran/Brutus
Saurus/Talene
Ferael
Brutus/saurus
Daimon
maybe
gwyn is like the best carry and alwasy viable, still use her chapter 30 main carry
can i get some lineup help now lol, im stuck at chapter 20 right now , ill send ss one sec
okay she i think my 2nd epic from summon she is rlly good late game w 2 opps left w her ability i find
@brittle jacinth
Tasi or lyca
Lucius
rowan
Saurus
Shemira/Ainz
fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Lyca or Saurus
Ainz/shemira
maybe u need change Ainz/Shemira with fawkes. cause fawkes maybe oneshot or dont cc one
Got shredded
Luc
Brutus
Lyca
Saurus
Wukong
@shrewd sorrel
maybe change saurus and wu
yes didt know his right name yet
okay if saurus is up front ogi onlyone left imma try them a bit if still not working imma try and switch Wu to font
dude i just cant get any ults off at all and i cant level up my heroes because of the ascension levels
so glad you told me to use saurus @brittle jacinth lol
oh dude that straight sht
xd
Does anyone have suggestions to beat this stage?
with who is ainz connected @royal thorn
Any way I can beat this stage
probably belinda
since he has the stitchy in there and is still able to use ainz
Yes, he is linked to belinda
Ainz
Tasi/Brutus
Rowan
Talene
Daimon
if u dont want take a merc
@royal thorn
@young ice main carry should be 20/40 level over all.
u can try arden for silvana
120 level cap so i hit the cap for two of my characters so far
That is actually the comp i was running when i first posted about this stage. But a lot of people questioned me using 2 dmg carries
And also both ainz and daimon die before they can do much
so saurus w wu kills Niru but then Isabella just shreds w ogi
mirror the lineup and see what happens
y both need a frontlane and ur frontlane is meeh @royal thorn
Lyca
Talene
Rowan
Brutus
Ainz
@royal thorn
@young ice can u make on of them L?
make one legendary? yeah I can get Mirael to L but I wanted to wai tuntil I can get her L+
well now i dont kill anyone ahha i think im stuck
replace lyca with belinda and try that
I think u can make her level 140, or first with l+? im not sure.
mirrored the comp and just retried a whole lot. passed it now, thank you
had to go back to using thoran for this one this one is power overload
okay so lucretia 3, brutus 1, belinda 5, saurus 2, Wu kong 6
been trying different strats and no good outcome im officially stuck at this lvl
i went turtel 1
enzi and zaph lyca eagle
change skeleton w enzio
and put enzio in open space that worked for me
ask in #classic-questions I can link you the solutions there
Lyca/ - if have arden
Brutus
Wukong
Saurus
Belinda
@shrewd sorrel
well that wont work i can see it already belinda will get targeted by silvia onces she dead silvia will lock on saurus
put belinda in front of saurus so saurus will fight silivina before the other one
y sometimes u need w8 few days 🙂
who is more important, rowan or twins?
rowan but if U can get twins, u should take twins. Twins more rar
true
U should maybe Read pins in #classic-questions u dont have any Main DD heros. ^^
Any help here pls? 😫
swimming can you show a damage log from the battle?
i could try wait ;p
and show all heros..
Ferael
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Tasi
tasi dies in an instant ;/
u gave her gear?
of course, belinda's gear
its the silvinia
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Ferael
don't have gear for fawkes, gave it tto ferael ;p
if he can survive hes just for the cc, so just give him some basic gear
all you need him to do is survive
good luck
replace lyca with belinda
Im currently stuck Im really new to the game only 4 days playing and I dont really know how to line up my heros and what i should be doing I have read the guides though
@pale kettle where is ur Free Wukong?
Free wukong? I dont have one
go on events - if u share something or so - u get a free wukong look there
how do i share it?
but still what should i do there
there stay what to do for free wukong read it. and else read pins in #classic-questions thats help u much for early game
What do I do
u find on reddit for alle of this stages a guide @civic gale just google the name and guide.
Any help against this? Antarda just shreds any back line dps I try and use and frontline dies pretty quickly after
@rocky crescent
Do same issue as my history, im missing a ton of the heroes needed to split my team for this one :/
show me all ur heros, maybe I can help. idk. ur heros a bit higher as my on this stage @rocky crescent
well, here starts the real game, deppends how you prepared for this until now. you can advance or get stuck for weeks on every boss stage 😥
Need some help been playing for 2 days
read the pins in #classic-questions @alpine scroll
Should i use my faction scrolls on lightbearers / wilders or Graveborn?
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Lightbaerers I got enough copies for A Dawnes and have 6 Rosaline
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Wilders go for eiron and Lyca?
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Graveborn 2 copies for A stitchy and 3 Shemira
@past crater if u wanna play later Wilders comb, in wilders - yes Eiron & Lyca
@pale kettle so Eiron & Lyca > Stitchy and Shemira according to you?
sorry but whats stitchyß
Daimon sorry
it's not that simple 😂
you have to build more than Wilders, ofc, they will help you a few chapters later, but then, you will get stuck for months in chap 31 like many others
he's 22 23 I guess
@brave oriole so what is your recommendation then? and i am just beginning 21 now
well. so pull in GB - to have good Main Carry. if U have shemira/Daimon ac. Pull in wilders for later.
well, finish your rowan Gwyneth Rosa, then move in eironn lyca tasi safiya ferael daimon
before 31-20 he dont need gwyn...
he have same copys of belinda like gwyn. And shemira should carry him enough. Well - he can build gwyn, but dont would force it
nah, now it's the time, when he's pulling lb from. the faction cards. later will. focus on wilders etc
if "its- later" he can also wish Gwyn in pulls.
gwyn it's one hero that need builded early, it takes time, the stars gear sig artifacts etc
well... I think we have diff. play style :p both can be right. I'm yet without Gwyn . My gwyn is L^^
with that mentality, you only need 5 heroes until chap 31,but then what? cry for mercenary every week? and pass one boss stage every week?
I make yet 4 stages /week sometimes 8 stages ofc. Cause I dont have thoran or gwyn. And that's fine for me. At next I will wish Gwyn to Build her
each faction should have builded one carry hero if i can say so, there's towers etc
yeah, imagine after 31 56,you will pass 4 stages at every 1 week if you lucky to win with 3 teams 😁
Help pls idk how to pass it am new to game playing for 3 days
y but well, he's chapter 21 dont forgot @brave oriole if he Wish Gwyn every month of wishlist, he can take others.^^
@pale kettle and @brave oriole thanks for your input guys 🙂
this Light hero
Brutus
Mirael
Wukong
Nemora
@regal dragon
I would start to level wukong on 100^^
I will, thank you
@pale kettle lol thanks I passed it was trying for 30 min the formation you gave me is op
Btw should I pick flora from easy autumns ?
whats easy autumns? sorry english isn'T my main lang.^^
Getting so sick of this fkin wave!!
@regal dragon save it
I mean this event @pale kettle
Can i keep the chest it wont expire ? @pale kettle
please help
yes u can @regal dragon
Ok thanks
skidaddle skidoedle help me pls or youll change in a noodle
Tasi
Rowan
Eiron
Lucius
Ainz
@bleak bridge
@median loom where's ur free wukong?
@pale kettle it went better, but did not work :( never been so stuck.
okay well - but tell me what's the problem
@pale kettle rowan eiron and ainz die within first 2 seconds
try Link Ainz with Eiron.
after that
Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Ainz
and give them gear
@pale kettle will do!
how to get him?
go to events last page
there will be info normally you just need to share via facebook or something
yep, but i dont know what to do. how to share it?
if u have a new summon there will apear a small F share button
ill send a link to a video
@pale kettle nope. Can't seem to keep ainz alive. He just dies within a few seconds
put a bit gear out of rowan. So Silvana focus rowan and not ainz @bleak bridge
idk how to deal with saveas golus and vedan at once
@pale kettle You Fkin Legend! I passed it finally. thanks!
ur welcome @bleak bridge
mans out here trying but need some help w advice and shi
thank youuu
no problem
what's your id on afk arena? could i add u?
Hi, would someone have suggestions regarding pve team from lucius, belinda, fawkes, tasi, arden, nemora, saurus?
added u
almost i think
okay imma add u back in a min
just keep trying some moment the rng will b on point
Is there something I can do better?
soren hunt?
Yep
show ur locker
u should deffo have healer or haste that would be helpfull
Twins
Rosa should run to Shemira)
Rowan
Lucius
Shemira
@raven jasper I would say yet
yea that should work
Shit it runs to lucius
put amor out
that dont make diff. just if shemira mistic
dont her attack stat go up?
Twins
Rosa should run to Ainz)
Rowan
Lucius
Ainz
not such a big difference
aight thnx
if u can merc Saurus or twins for boss @raven jasper
OMGGG thank u soo much after trying 3hours rng was finnaly by my side
lol
ikr
I just cant make any progress on this. Nothing i’ve tried has worked. All my tanks just get immediately fucked. I got close ONCE. I just dont know what to do and I’m slowly getting more and more pissed
do u have the formation u once got close win?
I think it was Belinda Brutus Fawkes Rowan Rosaline
well its an rng game so the algoritm changes every time just keep trying that team
I was 3hours at a lvl same team and i got it
u should always try multiple times
Any recommendations for this one? I don't wanna use mercs yet because I don't know if I'll really need it later
Try replace NiMu for Lyca @raw niche
What the hell is nimu
*numi
Hey all, somewhat new to the game (about a week or so in), and I’m still kind of confused on what my lineup should be. Any suggestions would be amazing!
could someone send me a screenshot of the tanks in the abyssal doing 1 billion damage or at least make the team pls:)
belinda
lucius
gwyneth
wukong
cecilia/lucretia
this way you'll have a 5 faction bonus which is really strong begin game
Do I have a bad team of 5? How could I improve. Any help much appreciated
Isn't WuKong a different faction though?
he can be used as another faction if needed, thats what the celestials do
Oh gotcha
Cause I'm currently stuck on Chapter 8 rn and the team you suggested isn't cutting it sadly, they die so fast
Ooo im on chapter 8 too
how do I cheese a thoran

I can kill everything except for the thoran, he doesn't seem to die even from big thoran ults
so I can't even get thoran to res, he never dies
Any other teams you'd suggest? I keep dying on Chapter 8-12 w/ the one you sent ;-;
thats a boss level right?
ye
hmmm, what level is the boss?
108
have you put any heroes in your resonating crystal?
I have yeah
currently?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/781263007225348116/image0.png
The ones that got a blue font
nada
hmmm idk then
@strong pebble your gonna have to wait it out for ascensions but I would try moving around gear and trying different hero’s to see if that changes anything
i normally use my highest level heroes and if that doesnt work i keep leveling them up and ascending them
Who do I add to resonating crystal next, thinking nara or belinda but want to check first
Simply max belinda
not my lineup we're discussing lol, ping Illya
Ohhh
its fine haha
I've lost 10 times here. What should I do...
@strong pebble
21-58 got any advice
Stuck on 11-26
Stuck on 6-16https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/781216350273011712/unknown.png
I swapped out the Gwyneth for Rosaline and managed to beat the level finally
Oh also, I had some points in one of the events and got some fodder and ascended a few characters
Can anyone give me some advice to beat 11-26
do you by any chance watch volkin on youtube he has a good video for new players, it has some good tips
I don't, no
you should its pretty good
@pale kettle still around? Phone died and had unexpected guest
Any ideas? Been stuck trying to figure out a good team for this boss
Brand new player, just want to know what my curren ideal lineup is with what I've drawn so far. I can ascend a couple heros to legendary rn.
I think lucretia is pretty good
Help 😭
Any tips to beat this lvl?
@sand breach Shemira talene lyca rowN Tasi
@raw niche try brutus Nimusu Eironn rowan Lyca
@neon nova ty
Hey gents I'm stuck on 29-46, any suggestions for a premo team?
@peak needle albedo wu Kong ainz rose Silas
What r u trying?
I've tried a mix of everything. Rowan, Tasi, Ferael, Eironn, Lyca got obliterated. I tried Lucius, Thoran, Ainz, Rowan, Ferael, and that was slightly better but still annihilated
Survivability is what I'm lacking I think
Try albedo Lucius ainz rowan fawkes
Hmm still crushed. Damn
Can i see enemy team?
Shemira problem right?
Yeah big time. She KOs Lucius haha
Try rowan Tasi lyca Fareal Eironn
Still no go, very frustrating. Rowan Farael and Eironn are +30SI too. Tasi Lyca re +20
This is where rng and relics come in
Yeah I'll keep at it, thanks for the help
@neon nova I finally beat it, I used Tasi, Eirron, as front, Lyca, Rowan, Ferael as back
31-4, 1st time dealing with multi stage
Any idea for a better pvp lineup? I would really like to fit vurk in it 🤔
@neon nova yea
I am stuck on hard mode labyrinth cus of this pos
nara might work. swap out shem?
Tried that too, he dodge and one shots her
Alright, I have a spot open on the resonating crystal! Who would you folks recommend I cram in there?
Any suggestions?
Halp
Any help? I’ve been stuck on this for a bit
Help
Who should I put in my spare crystal slot?
Not pictured is SI +10 Mythic Twin. Any suggestions for good 3 pvp teams (Challengers Tournament)?
eironn/saf, gwyn/arthur work fine for 2 teams I think
@rustic phoenix
Lorsan
Eironn
Gwyn
Nako
Lyca
Athalia
Talene
Nara
Thoran
Fereal
Twins
Tasi
Rowan
Saurus
Ezizh
will have to give those a shot! thanks! my lorsan is still so incomplete 😅
He’s only for link, works at E+
should I ascend him next for wilders? already have Eironn, Nemora, Tasi, Kaz, Lyca, Saurus, Gorvo
Yeah
i know nako kicks butt but have no idea why she's strong lol I just know in the new battle system, getting her card is pretty good
She has a lot of CC, ideally in the first comp you want Zolrath, but he’s kinda hard to get
ah, yeah considering it took 90 stargazing cards for 2 twin copies, zolrath is unlikely .. maybe next year
is daimon not useful for pvp? i saw that he was placed quite high in priority list shortly after being released... is he more for tower and campaign?
Hi @spiral finch you've made faaaar too many heroes to legendary and this is why you're stuck you can't ascend any more heroes. Try avoid doing this. I recommend you read the guide pinned in this channel
you're also don't have any faction bonus. It's not game changing but it would help a lot. Are you 100% F2P ? If it's the case, I recommend you purchase Shemira in lab store in order to get more shemira copies and use hier instead of Belinda.
youy're missing 1 or 2 copies of shemira to put her mythic
Hiya @violet igloo yeah, Ive been trying to fix it, but need some lucky pulls. Someone pointed it out yesterday.
I'm not %100 f2p, I bought advancement rewards, and was planning of getting Regal rewards
you're going to get level capped, it's a very rare occurence but it can happen when you make a huge amount of heroes stuck in legendary
regal rewards are decent value
Yeah ahah, goofed up. I can buy a shemira from store now, but someone said to save for Ainz
i would take off Albedo and put Lucius, see how it goes
did you buy Albedo or get her F2P ?
Okie, I tried that but so low level so he gets slapped, alb is trial atm
ainz is good but as far as i know only used in late game, i haven't seen him in mid game where u are
This is literally every wilder I hate on one team. Kaz evades to waste time, and Ogi stun locks until Ira can one shot with ult.
you're in beginning of mid game
Fair enough, I used the Ainz trail a while ago :(
So buy shemira and not bother save for dim hero?
it's up to you. the money put to buy the hero, especially the 1st one, is only 15€ and if you buy with F2P ressources it's worth so much more,
i would say Ainz has more impact than Albedo
@rugged bane try and get rowan or lucius to L+ so that you can put them to M+ immediatly !. It's really really nice that you have a daimon 👌
@violet igloo if only my luck with Lightbearers were good
Okie :), I'll try get some elites, I'm pretty close, 1 copy for like 4 diff heros to get them to l+
@rugged bane try
Nemora
Thoran
Lyca
Daimon
Tasi
and try and get some wilders or LB heroes to ascend tasi lyca nemora OR Rowan rosa lucius
@spiral finch 👌
the ideal situation is what @rugged bane has, if you look at his heroes. Loads and loads of heroes at E+. he's waiting patiently until he can put them L+. Meanwhile he puts the fodder heroes at L and L+.
in long term it's so much better management of ascencion, nothing is wasted and you progress faster
Tbh I kinda got impatient with my Lyca, else she'd already be at Mythic, but it still worked out since I still waited enough for her to get to L+ at least
you can afford to have 1 or 2 heroes to L, no more
@violet igloo that helped, except I swapped Thoran & Daimon's places and Tasi & Nemora's places. Tyyy 
@rugged bane you're welcome 🙂 GL on your pulls ! 👍
Hello
I need a lineup for gwyneth that will help me get a quick finish
The lineup I have rn is Lucius Hogan Gwyneth Rosaline and Belinda
flora,lyca,Skriath or upgrade my Gwyneth?
my team is
Daimon
Brutus
Zaphrael
Oden
Gwyneth
Any help?
Swap rowan and lyca
And have tasi in front line
And keep resetting until u get it
frontline tasi just dies
Belinda and Mirael nuke, and Hogan prevents me from doing anything about it
First instinct is drop ezizh until he's higher asc. he's a free 200 energy for the enemy as is. I get that you want god comp but I don't think it'll happen as he is.
Thoughts?
I know this isnt a lineup but what hero should I get?
Flora or Gwyneth
Is there a way to manipulate who Arden shields? He keeps going for Talene when she's in egg form so its' fucking me over
also any help in general with this stage would be nice, been stuck for 2 days ><
rest of heroes
@pale kettle am i blind or do you not have a thoran?
I don't have Thoran
Any suggestions? Seem to struggle a bit with this one
After I pass this one I can get another peaks of time, is there anyway I can get pass this in my current state?
???
Help plz
Any thoughts?
@pale kettle this is best I can think of, ezizh isn't viable till M so no godcomp I think
t1 talene orthros fera nara athalia, roughly in that order but backline is variable I think (basically keep as is, it's quite good)
t2 eironn saf lyca/rowan/tasi, def not in that order for obvious reasons
- replace rowan/tasi for saurus/skriath if/when skriath gets 3/9
t3 arthur hendrik fawkes gwyn rosa, roughly in that order - rowan/tasi for hendrik if u pulled from t2
which would be better gwenyth or flora
Any line up suggestion for me? Which can help me clear story better?
Looking for tips, tried everything I could think of.. 😦
Any idea on a formation that would beat this?
Tasi Rowan lyca eironn ferael 1-5 shud work. Unfortunately ur lyca isnt +20 and saf is M+ so not guaranteed
Thanks, yeah working on lyca +20 right now
It’s close but yeah need a little more investment @summer cedar
Who to choose?
help please
Can anyone help with a form? I’ve been trying for 4 hours 😦
@dire dock try Brutus shemira saveas rowan cecelia
ok ill try it, thanks
@amber badge you cant merc?
I’ve already used my spots for this week unfortunately
try switching shemira and daimon, RNG baden to dodge Estrilda, and hope for Silas ult onto Daimon/Shemira
Ezizh (I guess anyway) always prevents everyone from ulting and then my team gets clapped by mirael
@stuck trellis if I were to merc, who should I go for and replace?
daimon 20
A fereal would probably be better
anyone got screenshots of their 31-59 clear
hmm the strat didnt work, can someone try and help me again? ill repost
@winter matrix
I'll try it ty
Its an Eironn boss so he has alot of hp idk wich comp i should use
Anyone got any ideas for this? Trying not to use my last Merc helper
wouldnt saurus b better instead of brutus?
who do u bait silivina with?
bcs she should go bottom right and saurus behind it when silivina teleports to the baiit saurus will kill
Some help please
@shrewd sorrel im trying not to use the first 3 as they are mercs
oh okay dont use then
that did nothing
my main issue is the silvania insta kills one of my mages everytime
depending on who igive the better items either nem or tasi dies in 1 hit
yeah u should bait her w someone
yeah thats an easy way to take out siliviana but then its important to have a strong backline to carry the loss
any ideas on what i can do?
imma c
If I put shem in the backline she doesnt ulti fast enough, but in the front line she gets kinda wrecked in the bottom front spot
so atm who does she teleports 2
try to keep nemora alive so use tasi as bait in front line
omfg i ust did it, with mad rng
and try putting lucious behind her
after over 100 tries witht he exact same comp lol
oh nicetry that way a couple times sometimes it takes alot of time
yeh already put like 45 mins into it lol. Just happened to get amazing rng for once lol
yesterday spent 3hours at a level w same comp
wow haha. Apparently 19-38 is brutal. 5 wilder comp always hard
yeah true guys in my guild struggling w it
ill prob merc this stage if i cant get it done today
im getting smashed not even close haha
yeah the good thing is normally if u lose w merc u can still use him until u win, i tought not so sure bout it
yeh u can, it only counts if you win with one
okay yeah what i tought
just used mercs, obvious i wasnt beating that stage. Even the 5* saurus got smoked had to use 5* lucius
jezus omg thaats mad im using saurus 30+ merc
mine is +18
Bruh how are you stuck on that one tho
well eironn is boss but i still cant defeat him so im trying to get my gwyn L+
well that was what i tought mans got hP from here to china idk how im stuck hahaha
I beat him with my brutus and he wasn't even leveled up yet
bruh 1 sec imma show battle report after this try haha
ask me sau
rus 30+ couldnt do oh okay now he won rng can be lmessed up haha
Great man
Any ideas? Can i thoran this?
Anyone got tips for what the best team would be out of this?
why do u have lvled up 6 Hero's
Those are just the characters I’ve used a lot so I have them leveled up. I don’t know who else is worth it to level up
only 5 should b leveled up its pretty much a waste of dust otherwise
thats my opinion so u can do w u want imma c
Are the characters I got good for now? Like what is a strong like battle formation with what I got?
do u use isabella as main carry?
I use Isabella, Numisu, and Ira on the back line, Lucretia and Saurus for the front line
use turtle instead of lucretia
u should have a tank
and make sure to have ur carry b 20/30 levels above the rest
i use gwyneth L+ as carry
Numisu is my main one
okay make sure he is way above the rest in lvl
I’m just waiting for more cards to accend and advance, so I’m just waiting to progress more in the game
dont ascend every hero bcs that could be an inadvance somethimes
Ah okay
at #classic-questions is a pin top cornor make sure to read that
thats alot of info to improve ur game
The backliners are really the problem for me, but Hogan is also really annoying.
@worthy island daimon this one eironn the next should be easy enough no?
what should i run with daimon?
@worthy island nara ferael thoran nemora/nako/filler lol
@worthy island oh wait you have talene, that's a great daimon teammate too until you need 3 teams
and then brutus later on is also nice if you just need a tank filler.
Alright thanks! gonna experiment for a bit
help
Tbh Zpahrael is not that good and dies quite quickly,maybe switch him
I reset my levels so I can level up a team that I get recommended,but idk who to use
ye well zaph was bait for siliviana but i cleared now im at 9-40
wo to choose? nemore, lucious, khasos, nara or faction scroll?
?
i really don't know how to root here, even with call +lyca it doesn't work, so I'm struggling with this one
i wish i could help
help
@shrewd sorrel just save for 8th copy. Thats for #classic-questions btw
this can perfectly b posted in #lineup-help bcs it can influence my current line up
Scrolls are the worst decision
yah ik
Pick the one you dont have if you dont use any
wich one could come in handy for chap10?
None tbh
Anyone could help me out with this one?
Any way I could beat this with what I have?
Really struggling to get past chapter 9. What would you guys be using as a PVE team based on my hero’s. Please help! 🥰🥰
Any tips on how to deal with this?
Strenghten your Belinda & try to use Tasi
Tasi got 1 shot by the leaper one
Imma try by adding 1 extra tank
I think I need a leaper of my own but I don't have any smh
Put cecilia where belinda is
K
Can anyone help please?
Worked
@wooden gate try using flora instead of belida
Izold is useless without the supports to keep him alive until he pops his ult, that's why he isn't recommended as an early unit
@last fjord this is the 5 I use always
@thin wind try replacing nara with rosaline and place her next to daimon
Also try using skreg over izold
i've been trying a lot of different comp. everthing that is not daimon get oneshotted
Try using your 140s since you have them
i'll try
I mean I am at the stage just after
yeah till here it was pretty easy. Then this stage is just bonkers
Pretty much stuck here
Waiting to get the Tasi from merc to try it again
Or get daimon mythic
i think there you'd need someone to pull belindas
I don't have any leapers so 
How to clear? Please ping me
help a brother out
@last fjord so I reset everyone to lvl 1 to work from ground up. What would your recommended formation be? So sorry for taking your time 🤦♂️
Ezizh screwing me over. Dura call not helping
Please I need help with this!
I always struggle vs brutus, is there a hero whos good against him?
saurus is p good
Do you think it's good base of lineup?
Still looking for help if anyone have any tips, posted my lvl and heroes twice , not sure i should spam
What should I change here?
Dont upgrade to L if you cant get to L+ straight away
i would reset heroes and get at least one of the mythics to 161
but im also kinda new so
one last try if anyone can help would appriciate it alot
cant beat
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/781439168710443018/image0.png this is my other heroes , everything just gets melted and was kinda cruising before stuck here for days
3th time the charm? help a brother out
@twin oracle put shemira up front for flora so she gets faster energy, try to put in rosa instead of flora/talene to get a double ult by shemira for a wipe. otherwise try some cc with tasi/arden
helppp
@twin oracle remember that this game is rng based. so give it a few tries . sometimes 1 more dodge, crit or anything is enough to clear and also play around with formations
can u help me
@scenic meteor i think i answered that in #classic-questions
ye i tried like too many times to count , but prob everything besides rosa was in the line up
@limpid quail At this point should i have 1 or 2 tanks?
should I try to have belinda in the front row
and should I swap someone out for Taylene when I get her from the event
@shrewd sorrel you highly lack some sort of support. you have 3 carries in the back and 1.5 in the front. drop wukong if you cant overlevel him, he wont do much, belinda as well. i dont see what else you have but tasi,rosa,rowan,arden could help you there
@last fjord
@scenic meteor yes belinda front if you have her overleveled for faster energy to ult. talene can help situationally, but doesnt necessarily. remember your linuep always depends on the enemies its not 1 lineup fits all
well now iam using
Belinda
Brutus
lyca
Saurus
Gwyneth
oh i won with
Zaph
Saurus
lyca
Brutus
Gwyn
I’m getting melted. Any help?? 🤔
whats my best team option for this trial?
that works thanks
how to complete this?
get bait for siliviana
if u have gwyn use her instead of flora she can eliminate Arden before he roots
any help?
http://imgur.com/a/1fnMvEc
Guys my current roster and lineup, can I continue to work on this lineup to make them L+? Or is there any changes I can do to make it better?
still not sure who
yea I know its lineup help its just there nowhere else to ask
...
ok, thanks anyways
if your going to use shemira she should be 180 not rosa
@pale kettle have u tried running arden and/or nemora in there?
helpp
@pale kettle reset rosa and get shemira to 180 and u should be good to go, might wanna put arden in instead of Flora too
also, what pillow said.
ahh yea if you make her 180 and frontline her you should be better off @pale kettle
What do I even do
rosa then just try and play with your supports in the backline to see what works @pale kettle
you might just have to play for rng and see what works @pale kettle
Mirael?
np @pale kettle
http://imgur.com/a/1fnMvEc
This is my current roster and lineup. Can I go ahead with the current lineup and work on making them L+ first? Or is there any changes to make the team better?
I need some help here, athalia kill everyone in 12s. I've tried a lot of things and formations
can i even beat this?
try arden where rosa is. I'd also put more lvls on wu kong
i dont have any resources left so i cant lvl him
What should i do now? Ascend shemira and brutus or just wait?
ascend saveas. recommend reading pins in #classic-questions
Oh, thanks
@wary lark you can also read this 1 page guide : https://bit.ly/afkarena_quick_start_guide
@unreal reef i recommend you read this 1 page guide : https://bit.ly/afkarena_quick_start_guide
You already know that but you chose to not build the best early game L+ carries? 
i just found out
And didn’t overlevel one hero like the guide. So maybe re-read it...
like 20 minutes ago
i am doing that and im still stuck 😦
i asked for help and didnt get it, thanks guys. instead just yell at me for something i already knew cause i literally just found out about it earlier today. someone else helped me. thanks for nothing.
Bruh don't make L if you can't take it to L+. Also skreg is always frontline. Cecilia should target enemy carries not tanks
yeah i didnt notice that till my friend pointed it out, normally skreg is front but idk what happened
No one yelled at you. No need to be dramatic. Someone helped you by linking a helpful guide and you said it was “not helpful”
cause i already knew about it, i needed help with the level specifically not my heroes
Build Mirael. It will help you.
Early game is all about building the right heroes
@unreal reef the thing is, in early game it's not really about specific levels, it heavily relies on your heroes. The problem that you have right now is that you don't have a DPS hero that will carry you that is lvl 140. You should have a DPS hero that is lvl 140 and other heroes lvl 120. Right now you have made Hogan L+, meaning that you can push him to lvl 160. But he's a tank, he won't be really useful, he'll just take very long time to die.
It's a shame that you didn't come to see the pins and the guides earlier, because you probably fed your Mirael and Saveas to heroes that you don't need to put to Legendary, they are now stuck there until you can pick up more copies of hereos (could take a long time).
You also have no faction bonus, which is not good.
What I would do is follow the guide I linked you. There fore, you can put Cecilia lvl 140 and other heroes lvl 100/120. Then I'd do this :
(rosa, rowan, or fawkes)
Cecilia
Lyca
Hogan
Skreg
if Cecilia as carry doesn't work, try Ira lvl 140 instead
I started playing back when the game came out and never knew there was a discord so I had already leveled him up to L+. I just started playing again and joined the discord a few days ago maybe less. If I had known a year and a half ago, when this guide didn't exist, I never would've made that mistake.
My friend in the game just told me about the guide you sent and seeing it again made me think you didnt even look at what I was asking for help with.
it's fine don't worry, it's not a big mistake, it'll just mean that you progress slower in campaign until you can get a decent DPS to L+ 🙂
we're glad to see you back in the game, good choice 
I did look at your post 😛
Who should I get to L+ then?
Well, you have to open heroes first and see what you get. Ideally, Mirael at L+ is great, but you probably fed her to Hogan
I did infact do that
if you're F2P, I'd recommend buying shemira in lab store
Ok, my friend told me to build ehr
so that whilst you advance and level up, you can prepare her to L+ and then get her Mythic and use her as carry DPS, she's super strong
so take your time, try what I said about leveling Cecilia to lvl 140
Okay, thank you
Any help please
So only ascend heroes with copies of themselves @violet igloo
Guys is the current line-up worth going L+? Or can be changed for better comp?
Need help please
@paper orbit don't use shemira anymore, she's not useful to you anymore, you are past lvl 240.
Use Tasi, Lyca, they are great heroes. Try :
Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Tasi
Lyca
I suppose your Rosa follows rowan ? It's not optimal. You can replace Rosa with Nemora, Ferael... try this too :
Lyca
Eironn
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi
have you clicked on "winning formation" button to have a look at other comps ?
No rosa follows shemira, if not lucius
I'm stuck at 16 - 36 😔
Rosa following Lucius can actually win
@violet igloo Ive hit a wall, am I stuck till i can ascend heroes?
@pale kettle rosa Lucius Belinda Rowan Fawkes
@acoustic kestrel Hey again! I’ve gotten a few more characters if you wanna suggest any new team setups for me. Ik a few are pretty good I believe
not even close
read pins in #classic-questions . best teams in pins. L heroes will hold you back long term.
@pale kettle interesting. Is your Belinda ulting?
no
Any suggestions for this one? Would like to unlock the legendary arena
feed E+ mirael to L mirael. place her back center with 4 others. I think hogan luci arden and 1 other
sometimes the same team that wins later can be wiped in 5 seconds the first 99 tries before it wins in the 100th. also it helps anyone who's helping you to describe WHY something isn't working--who's dying first, who gets to ult, how much time did it take to wipe, etc.
I need to make her L to have L+, so I will lose some other Lightbringers
It may be the lack of Rowan+30 that is the issue. You can try call on Lucius
: fawkes banish belinda and rosa dies to estrilda, then my fawkes dies, then lucius and last rowan
Any suggestions to improve the current lineup? Or can I start working on L+ the current one
also it'd try lyca rowan saurus eironn lucius, which probably won't work but idk maybe a chance.
try this lineup that prob won’t work
you really don't. Just feed E+ mirael to L mirael. Past lvl 160, you can use the L+ mirael as food herself.

wrong chat since you need generic hero help not lineup help, but this is why you need to level up fodder heroes like mirael/saveas as your main carries--so your main carry isn't level capped. also usually all 5 heroes you're leveling rn should be fodder heroes, E/E+ heroes you still want to use can go on crystal.
shhhhh it MIGHT ok, i've tried a lot of shit lineups that ended up working accidentally 
Sorry my bad, will try to focus L+ non-ascendant units first then
@urban olive this account is playing a little too slow/lazy/safe, but something like this is what you should aim for
Got it, I did a mistake L+ Roseline first
@urban olive have u read the pinned guides in this channel and #classic-questions ? Rosa is a good hero so not that bad
Not yet, I'll do that now. Thank you!
Help
can i ask for help with who to build here or in questions?
@fickle loom thank you!
brutus wu tidus mirael nemora might work. put some more lvls on wu if it doesn't
Hello, people on my floor are getting ~35 bill and I’m getting around 8, is there something I could be doing differently?
rowan just dosen’t do anything anymore because i haven’t been getting any of his copies so what would you recommend i do
grezhul rng is grezhul rng
I gotcha, should I just keep eye on him?
should be fine, the rng is mainly just in what gets attacked and also no one can die early (especially warek in your case, and saurus but idk if he dies like that). if you really want a high score, invest in grezhul furniture i guess, but grezhul is also getting a change soon and we don't know how so maybe don't do that until its confirmed he's not getting nerfed too much.
Okay thxx much
arden is the MOST rng TR boss, the fluctuation is absolutely absurd, so it'll happen. I'd say the purple warek doesn't help tho, I'd merc him cuz I assume he dies rly early and his high defense break is big.
rowan just dosen’t do anything anymore because i haven’t been getting any of his copies so what would you recommend i do
Shoot, didn't notice that. Sorry 😅
bruh, my rowan works like this
Can Anyone help me out Build a Team Msg me if u can
@charred topaz proof lol
i never said it didn’t work for you i was saying it wasn’t working for me
Ideas? I had Lucius replaced with Aren earlier and put him in the middle and it was doing well-ish, but over all that Saveas is so annoying
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781579142256001045/781579866968424498/IMG_20201126_185852.jpg Ideas for a team i started yesterday
You didn't get a single Rowan!? @weak island
Try Belinda, Thoran, Arden, Nemora, Tasi. In that order from 1-5.

