lineup-help

[keen delta]

@tepid holly aye I'll try it out. I think it would be easier if I could somehow beat the first team without rowan, then I could Thoran cheese the second team more consistently. But By the end of the BoB event I'll have Thoran at +30 which should make this stage a lot easier.

@lunar garden That line up looks good. I would just retry it a bunch. Might be as simple as moving around relics depending on what each person has.

[worldly parcel]

It worked woohoo lol

[foggy grove]

@tepid holly have you tried eironn on ferael?

[tepid holly]

What would the lineup be? Also Ainz is 1/3rd of my entire power cap requirement, daimon’s 2/6th, so I’d need to have a team with either to be able to play

@keen delta thoran cheeseballs

[keen delta]

True. You could try to use Lyca Eironn to dodge tank. So then it would be eironn, lyca, ainz, nemora, daimon. Bringing in Eironn might also let you use tasi instead of daimon and rely solely on Ainz for the damage. Eironn in whatever spot in the front will get his pull off.

or is that still too low power?

[tepid holly]

Sounds good, I have to 100% use nemora too and refresh runs until nemora lands charm on feral to cc (fear) to buy me time for nuke

[raw rune]

getting closer, but 2 vedans + niru is pretty obnoxious

[keen delta]

yea for sure. At least retries like that are way easier to know when it;s going good or not, no charm means instant reset.

[lunar garden]

Thats my relics but I can't, the enemies 1 shot my team

[peak magnet]

@tepid holly make sure that isabella attacks nemora, not Ainz. Also, use talene

[keen delta]

Talene in place of who? He's running into power level issues

[tepid holly]

Could you write me out a team? I’ve tried Ainz nemora brutus talene lyca *as long as either Ainz or daimon’s on team, it’s a viable run)

[peak magnet]

@lunar garden your relics are a mess. Call only on eironn.

[raw rune]

just use talene lol she's good enough to slot in any team probably @keen delta

[peak magnet]

Use daimon rowan talene brutus ainz, not in that particular order

[tepid holly]

I’ve tried, but I get 1 shotted all the way - my whole game strat on running Ainz + daimon’s for talene and Brutus to buy me time to nuke (get 1 shot or nuke after 100 refreshes 🤦🏻‍♂️)

[lunar garden]

:/ just Eironn? And the others?

[brave oriole]

@lunar garden pull this mehira with some nara

[peak magnet]

@lunar garden just eironn. Rowan gets chalice, tasi gets whatever you want

Also, mehira can be grabbed by nara

[brave oriole]

tasi suck without call, fact. and he can use 2x calls

[tepid holly]

@peak magnet without nemora’s charm, ferael will land fear into shem’s silence on Ainz - I’ll lose before Ainz nukes (daimon ult + def% reduction into Ainz ult doesnt one shot anymore)

[peak magnet]

@tepid holly try to make the battle about daimon carrying, not ainz. Keeping daimon alive as 1st priority could work.

[brave oriole]

but on this case, eye would help. more eironn cuz of PR

[deep ice]

Any tips

[tepid holly]

What are my 2 team choices
Ainz only vs daimon&ainz

[peak magnet]

@tepid holly use Ainz to keep Isabella away from daimon. Talene instead of nemora.

[lunar garden]

I did it but its still impossible

[peak magnet]

Tasi/rowan instead of nemora too

[tepid holly]

Like so?

@deep ice did u feed shem into daimon?

[peak magnet]

Yeah. You could also try Lyca instead of talene.

[deep ice]

no wy?

[tepid holly]

Also, I’m planning on feeding shem into daimon, I’m 1 copy from ascended for shem, 2 for daimon

[peak magnet]

@spare flare make eironn pull mehira

[warm swan]

@lunar garden Rowan(chalice), Lyca(eye), Saf(blade), Tasi(call), Eironn(call). In that order. Burst Mehira and Baden fast.

[tepid holly]

@deep ice idk, I’m so tempted to feed shem since daimon outshines her in every aspect of the game + I could merc (daimon>shem campaign 24/7)

[peak magnet]

I wouldnt feed shem into Daimon. Keep in mind that you need 5 ascended.

[deep ice]

pls help me

[tepid holly]

5 ascended?

[deep ice]

how do you mean

[lunar garden]

How can I do that? I put Nara against Mehira but they all die anyway

[pale kettle]

Need too much food each time.

[prisma salmon]

Can someone help me on Who i should ascend next, i am a noob, and am scared to mess it up!

[worldly parcel]

Hey @stuck trellis I think u helped me last time but whose SI should I get? I got rowans and elfmans

[tepid holly]

On a good run, if I could get daimon to ult 2x I should win (running 2x call on daimon and Ainz)

[pale monolith]

@prisma salmon Ascend all heros to Elite+. Then ascend a hero that you use to Legendary but only ascend it if you can ascend it to Legendary+ or it wouldn't be worth it

[warm swan]

I really don't know what else to suggest other than that because that's the exact line-up I used. I haven't saved a ss for that stage but you have def higher lvl than me. I just got to 300 on ch30

[tepid holly]

Anyone know how to pull a daimon bug? :p

[prisma salmon]

i did except for fodder, i maxed my fodder at L+ now i need a hero to go to Mythical, Shemira is the plan, but i am missing fodder, which heroes should i assend from other factions?

[lunar garden]

the game doesn't want me to advance. TY

[tepid holly]

Speaking on exact same lineups, I can’t win using my friend’s winning comp

[pale monolith]

Well if you only use Gravebron, there is no reason to ascend another faction. Just go with what you know you will use but dont rush, you might regret it

[prisma salmon]

so only assend shemira till lvl cap and by then maybe i get a clearer picture?

[tepid holly]

Same dura’s tree, levels, artifacts and my Ainz has 3/9 furniture

[pale monolith]

Yeah and the ascension would be useless if you can't lever her up because of heros not being lvl 140

[tepid holly]

What does lyca’s SI offer?

[random bay]

Please

[warm swan]

@tepid holly What happens if you switch Saf in Lyca's position?

[tepid holly]

I tried saf for daimon’s ult into ainz’s nuke but most the time,, either Ainz or daimon gets one shotted

@warm swan I’ve even tried Ainz, saf, talene, Brutus, lyca to try 1 shot as Ainz but it’s not dealing enough

Dimensional mythic gear’s too expensive for guild coins since I’m saving for albedo

I might consider doing 1-2 1000 gem lab store refresh to get Arthur a month earlier, I’m 30/60 Arthur shards, lab store refreshes in 2 days (Arthur Ainz albedo +75% def from albedo’s SI10)

I’ll have lyca, safiya to link for at least M/M+

[brave oriole]

faction gear it's a bg thing for ainz

[tepid holly]

Doubt I’d need the extra energy/accuracy if I have the means to survive. And yeah +30%’s huge but I don’t think I’ll be able to get it for awhile, not until after albedo at least

[brave oriole]

you mean the hero or. albedo gear?

[tepid holly]

I mean swapping lyca out for albedo (link), safiya for Arthur - I’m planning on running Ainz albedo Arthur daimon Rowan or smth

[warm swan]

Does it have to be that comp? Lol. Reason I asked is, Lyca's +10 is for accuracy, her +20 gives dmg boost based on accuracy. But I don't think she was used in that comp for that purpose. She's just there for the haste. And Nem, can she even charm one enemy?

[brave oriole]

nemora is strong 😁

[tepid holly]

Albedo the hero, I can’t buy dimensional gear for Ainz for awhile since I spent my labs on Arthur shards (I’m on que to hit albedo when the exchange comes if I don’t spend anything)

Yeah, nem can charm an enemy b4 dying - I only use her for ferael’s to land fear on the enemy team (and well not getting feared into another cc ability’s great)

@warm swan I could build up lyca, I’m a couple rares from getting her to M but I’ve also got eironn at L+, I’m 1 Rowan from M so I’m probably going to finish off my daimon SI+20 then use all primordial and golds for Rowan

[humble stream]

31-8, can you help me built 2 teams?

[tepid holly]

Damn the dimensionals 👀

Have any of you ever fed ascended tier? If so which ones?

[warm swan]

@tepid holly I dunno. I just feel like you're getting restricted with that line-up. But hey, worse case scenario, you ascend the exact heroes your friend did and let rng take the wheel

[tepid holly]

^^ I’m very tempted to fodder kaz to get lyca into M

But I’ve got no counterplay to the stage atm, least I know my friend was able to win with that comp

@warm swan I’ve not been able to brute force the stage after hitting retries for hours on end, bear in mind I only let runs play if nemora charms ferael

I’m also not collecting my 12 hr rewards since I’ve been trying to pity timer into mythic gear, so far I’m 2 mythic gear in 2 days. I guess u could say it’s slightly insane restricting myself for rng

[stuck trellis]

@worldly parcel saurus 30 next

[verbal fjord]

I'm getting wrecked immediately on this stage. Not even a chance. Any help/ideas?

[stuck trellis]

@tepid holly collecting afk loot won't affect mythic trick

[verbal fjord]

Normally I'd chock it up to being under leveled/geared, but I was breezing through stages before this one (29-46)

[brave oriole]

@tepid holly I did, kaz Isabela baden kelthur 😥

[stuck trellis]

@humble stream rowan tasi saf eironn lyca 12345 for r1, r2 talene brutus fera athalia daimon 12345

[keen delta]

@verbal fjord Could try, Tasi, Rowan, Lyca, Eironn, Nara

[tepid holly]

Wait it doesn’t, I- also @brave oriole I’ve fed kelthur for daimon M, I’m contemplating feeding kaz

[warm swan]

It may feel that way but really it's just rng. For example, I've been stuck on a particular stage here on 30 for several days, even with mercs, even with 2 lvl ups. I finally ask someone on this channel and they gave me the exact same comp I am using. And just told me to try more. And after several more retries, I beat that stage

[brave oriole]

@tepid holly well, for me., kaz it's the last wilder that I will ascend , or seirus 😂

[stuck trellis]

yes, it doesnt. ur timer could be at 1 minute and it would still give u the drop once u clear a stage @tepid holly

[shrewd sorrel]

okay so @warm swan could u pls tell me wich 5 heros i should level up and who should be my carry

[tepid holly]

Kelthur was 100% no regrets, kaz im contemplating only keeping her for dodge mechanic but imo I doubt I’d ever use her, not even for the future multibattles (unless someone can tell me if she’s half useful anywhere, not even tower I bet)

[shrewd sorrel]

I am able to reset if wanted 2

[tepid holly]

Oh wtff @stuck trellis so you’re telling me I’m wasting valuable exp I could’ve used to up my rng to win all this time? 🤦🏻‍♂️

[verbal fjord]

@keen delta That definitely lasted longer, I'll try gearing those guys up and trying again. Thanks bro

[mild geyser]

kelthur is also used in thoran cheese for multis

[brave oriole]

yeah, but don't have to be ascended or close

[tepid holly]

I’ve been told but honestly, no ragrets. I’ve had thoran on my wishlist since day 1 but he’s eluded me

[stuck trellis]

kelthur is a great unit. he's amazing for thoran cheese, and while he can be used at E+ ascensions are nice on him. kaz is meta in high end pvp and can be used in multis with investment @tepid holly

[keen delta]

@verbal fjord 👍

[mild geyser]

i mean if that was his only copy and he somehow doesnt get any copies its gonna suck when he needs it

[tepid holly]

I hit gravebornes for most of my faction selects and yet 0 thorans

[brave oriole]

@stuck trellis yeah, but if it's to make a top of Wilders, she's still at the end 😥

[shrewd sorrel]

@brave oriole Can u tell me wich 5 heros i should use and who should b the carry?

[brave oriole]

well, Gwyneth would work if push her lvls, but need a good front line Brutus +something else, and rowan rosa support

[tepid holly]

Can’t run a thoran cheese if I never get him even if he’s been on my wishlist, maybe when I’m done with Arthur I’ll get thorans, but I doubt I’ll need him when I’ve got Arthur albedo Ainz

[marsh nymph]

Help pls, the healing is too strong

[stuck trellis]

@tepid holly as for your comp, it looks good enough. I'd say just retry more

[brave oriole]

@tepid holly you can or not, at some point it will be the only way to pass, cheesing

[keen delta]

With choice pulls you should eventually get every one in the 4 factions you need

[tepid holly]

True, I’ve always wanted a thoran but 🤷🏻‍♂️ he hates me. Least Arthur +75% def up on albedo’s SI10 is gonna tank for days

Actually, I’ve hit most of my choice pulls on graveborn for daimon, 0 thorans

[brave oriole]

yeah, that would be nice, until. multi fights 😊

[tepid holly]

I’ll probs run dimentional 3 and eironn comp for the other

As for over 2 fights, I’ll have to sort that out later

[brave oriole]

it's not that easy 😁. do you have a Gwyneth? it may be so

[tepid holly]

No gwyneths either, pulls hate me

[stuck trellis]

@tepid holly what you're saying is like saying "I dotn have any daimons, so I will never use him". thats wrong, because you definetly will get thoran in the future, whether thats through hero choice or lucky pulls.". and if u dont have him by then, u should be doing everything u can to get him.

my point is, you will 100% get thoran in the future, so you should prepare for it early

[keen delta]

@verbal fjord And if that doesnt work, you can also try, Rowan, Lyca, Tasi, Eironn, Fareal

[somber shadow]

Any tips?

[tepid holly]

I’m saying, I could never pull him - I’ve used most of my facs to even get him despite being on my wishlist day 1, only other way to get him’s in lab store but I’m 30/60 Arthur shards and I’m claiming albedo, at least Arthur linked would get me to mythic and above right away

I would need thoran to M at least, but I’ve got daimon (1 from ascended, 1 l+ fodder) and feral so the sheer amount of fodder id need to up thoran is daunting. Imo I’d do daimon>feral since I don’t have feral copies to ascend him

[brave oriole]

well, thoran it's needed after chap 31,so you got time 😁

[keen delta]

Do remember that iirc dimensionals do not count towards ascended hero requirements.

And again, once you get the choice pulls each month, and can pull 4 times a month and the hero you want if you pull an elite it's easy to get who you need when you need them.

[tepid holly]

I’m at 1 choice only, I’ll need 5 ascends for 2 choices?

[keen delta]

I think so

[stuck trellis]

1/5/10/20
you gain an extra choice at those milestones

[tepid holly]

Thanks, I guess the biggest gate’s time for me to get daily & weekly pulls for fodder and hopefully thoran

So if I claim my afk chest, doesn’t affect pity timer??

[brave oriole]

check in field of stars @tepid holly, the big torch

[tepid holly]

@stuck trellis’s right 1/5/10/20 for 1-4

[stuck trellis]

nope, doesnt affect it

[tepid holly]

How long did it take you all to get your first 5 ascends? (State p2w or f2p, it’ll help me figure out how long I’m looking at)

Does niru execute after you go below a % of hp? I’m getting one shotted at half hp

[low apex]

I’m f2p took about 90 days

Anyone have suggestions for this stage? Maybe my power deficit is just too much

[low apex]

You only get 1 pull per month to start so it’s not great until you have 10+ ascended for 3 pulls

[mild geyser]

@low apex try daimon rowan eironn nara tasi

[random bay]

Help please?

[low apex]

@mild geyser My Nara is only e + so i can’t do that comp lol

[mild geyser]

does she disrupt mirael?

[mild geyser]

rip having A nara helped ig

[low apex]

She’s quite far down on my list after farael, thoran, izold

[mild geyser]

ig you could try to suck mirael and like charm saf or something

[tepid holly]

Has anyone experienced a daimon bug before?

[low apex]

I’ll mess around with my comp some more, mirael Estrella and safiya are all doing like 2m damage each, with mirae slightly ahead

What kind of bug?

[mild geyser]

when i did it i think it took a bunch of retires

[tepid holly]

Pls help, @low apex it’s when daimon becomes unkillable at 1hp and wins u the game

[raw rune]

ok got pretty close this time, should i just keep levelling up? granted idk how I'm gonna kill brutus with his strength + immunity shield

[pale kettle]

So the daimon bug is when he becomes unkillable, Ok cool.

[shrewd sorrel]

rip

[rotund hare]

Anyone care to help with this stage? I keep getting decently close but then it falls apart. I’ve tried Lucius where Lyca is with similar results but still can’t win.

Anyone? 🥺

[low apex]

Csu trolls too much so I just blocked him lol

[pearl scarab]

Still stuck at this point

[pale kettle]

Anyone that can help me um library add me ._. pls

[brave oriole]

@pearl scarab try
safiya
rowan
athalia
eironn may need dura's call to pull
lyca

[lyric kiln]

Heyyy guys

Can somebody help me pls?

Can somebody pls make lineup, i have this heroes

[ember geyser]

New player stuck on 9-32, no legendaries yet, working on fodder, but looking for input on good early game lineups to use.

[lyric kiln]

Somebody make lineup for me plis

[ebon shale]

Any experienced player wants to DM me and discuss pvp lineups?

[lyric kiln]

Somebody pls help me make good lineup and which heroes Should i use?

[low apex]

@lyric kiln

[lyric kiln]

I want to use Shemira but where is she there?

[low apex]

Not good until lvl 160

[lyric kiln]

Bruh

Its too much

[pale kettle]

any suggestions pls, I am stuck here for 3 days already 😫

[cloud gull]

help the shemira does too much damage

nvm got it

[pearl scarab]

@brave oriole thanks a lot ! Tried it for a good 30 minutes, I guess I need more levels then

[rotund hare]

Anyone care to help with this stage? I keep getting decently close but then it falls apart. I’ve tried Lucius where Lyca is with similar results but still can’t win.

[round citrus]

Put rowan frontrow

[stuck trellis]

@rotund hare work on getting that daimon +20 and you will be able to progress much, MUCH further.

tasi
rowan
belinda
arthur
lyca

[zenith violet]

Can someone please help me with 3 pvp teams for Ledgends?

[worldly parcel]

Ty! Sounds good I’m hoping to build him up

[plush patrol]

Send help 😦

[willow moon]

been stuck on this level for quite some time now - I'd like to think it's possible despite the level difference. any thoughts?

[willow moon]

you need to use Nara on Mehira, that's basically a rule of thumb. swap rowan and lyca, lyca serves her purpose by giving haste. probably sub out Saf for Nara here iirc

[frosty slate]

What lineups can I use

[willow moon]

too early in the game to have a "lineup" necessarily. just follow Phoenix's beginners guide and you'll be fine.

not off to a strong start though

[stuck trellis]

@plush patrol from proof 🙂 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/780388778463592458/Screenshot_20201123-120603_Gallery.png

[plush patrol]

@willow moon @stuck trellis made it with that lineup! =] thanks

[willow moon]

oh wow i had it right on the money lmao

[plush patrol]

yup xD

[zenith jungle]

Is there any heroes i should working on and using thats not in my line up? Im stuck on this stage.

The mythic is a mercinary

[willow moon]

@stuck trellis got anything for 22-36?

[willow moon]

we can see that by the green marker lol

[zenith jungle]

Oh lol still kind of new sorry

[worldly parcel]

Hi Vick been awhile 👋

[stuck trellis]

@willow moon who does tasi banish and is morvus killing daimon?

[willow moon]

Tasi banishes Daimon, and not right away, daimon gets 1 ult off, 2 with good rng, it's just not enough

[willow moon]

hey there stranger, been a while indeed :) hope you're well

[pale kettle]

I need help

[willow moon]

ascension help, i agree 😬

[clever patio]

@pale kettle ur safiya would be helpful along with the tasi in this situation. You can soul link the girl to nemora instead

[willow moon]

or belinda.. honestly L+ gwyn would probably be a better carry than M Belinda lol

[pale kettle]

sayfia still died

[willow moon]

those heroes... yikes, man. 0 Nara???
can't see your celestials but rule of thumb you need to deal with Arden with either Nara or Athalia

[pale kettle]

I still failed

[pale kettle]

thx for the help

i’ll put her in wish-list

[willow moon]

yeahhh... very questionable wishlist choices. Saf at L but Warek at A1*, Grez and Baden at M+ but Fera, Daimon, Nara, and Izold aren't even L yet...

tier lists, man.
if you don't have an Athalia for that Arden you might just need to merc for this stage

[pale kettle]

actually i already got it but thanks for the other help

[autumn raven]

Any suggestions here? Everyone seems to die instantly except for daimon in chapter 12.

[willow moon]

oh? care to share the lineup, just out of curiosity? usually arden like, requires to be shut down in order to clear

[willow moon]

well you're not showing the lineup so it's impossible to advise effectively. daimon as a hypercarry in early game is extremely good option from my experience, and transitions really well to late/endgame as well. keep him 20-40 levels above the rest. stop ascending heroes to L if you can't take them to L+, read the beginners guide we post all the time for pretty much every question

[pale kettle]

That Line up didnt help

[willow moon]

interesting call, thanks for sharing

[willow moon]

personally I don't really know what to advise here. you're extremely overleveled but your heroes are just in a really bad way. not sure what to say, maybe someone else will have something.

[autumn raven]

Sorry. I am running Damon, Rowan, tasi, estrilda and Lucious usually. Sometimes nara. I tried not pushing to L unless I could L+ but I couldn't progress further without higher level hero's. Just kept hitting a wall until I pushed some heroes past 120. I've got 10 lightbearer scrolls coming up so hopefully that helps.

[pale kettle]

Im going to stop PVE and Just focus on getting Ainz

[willow moon]

the boost from E+ to L is essentially negligible - all you're doing there is shafting your own future progress by potentially getting bad rng and not getting those hero copies you need to get to L+. the best thing you can do for your account rn is focus on the right heroes.

[brave oriole]

@autumn raven use rosaline 😂

[willow moon]

why stop PVE? Ainz is a slow grind with time

[pale kettle]

I'm getting no where

[willow moon]

as I said yeah focus on the right heroes... Estrilda is not something you should be wasting 2 E+ fodder towards

[brave oriole]

don't mind them, if they too lazy to read a simple guide... nothing that we can do

[willow moon]

you made a lot of really questionable decisions up until this point.. like I said idek what to advise, sorry

[willow moon]

sometimes it really do be like that

[brave oriole]

this game is strategy, no one cares if your estrilda it's 5 starts

she will do, nothing 😁

[willow moon]

ehhhh she sees some usage but still a very niche hero overall.. her 3/9 isn't bad and she synergizes well with Gwyn comps but yeah that's like.. endgame talk

[brave oriole]

yeah, but she's not a carry, she's a support.

someone who get her l first hero, clearly never cared to get good. on this game

oh, finally a new color of. my name 😂

[willow moon]

yeah no definitely agreed there. early game your focus should be getting your Legendary heroes up to L+ @ lvl161

[brave oriole]

man, best carry from chapter one to 28 or so, it's shemira, no doubt about this

[willow moon]

ehhhhhhhhh

[brave oriole]

ppls. say mirael saveas etc... nope, they not even close

[willow moon]

that's up for debate at this point in the game but we don't need to have that debate here and now when no one is asking

[cerulean cedar]

I say Saurus right up until he dies 2 seconds into the game-

[willow moon]

eye belongs on Belinda, look at her abilities to understand why. always always always. rowan with call.

[brave oriole]

well, ive made an alt with Saurus carry, but, ive invested in his sig

[cerulean cedar]

k

[pale kettle]

You don't use the Bluestacks' built in screenshot?

[cerulean cedar]

nope 😅

[brave oriole]

someone who goes for Belinda ascended, insta won't be able to build up rowan in the right time

[willow moon]

yeah belinda is some early 2019 guides idek why people still use her on new accounts

[brave oriole]

@cerulean cedar dunno your heroes but, if you have a carry, should be Frontline

[willow moon]

I made a Daimon carry alt, stuck hard on 22-36 right now, I posted the lineup earlier and no one had anything lol

[brave oriole]

try me @willow moon 😥

any carry you have, he clearly need rosaline boost

[willow moon]

yeah Rosa is essential to any account using hypercarry before Eironn Saf takes over campaign. seeing anyone except Rosa or Rowan as first LBs hurts my soul, what do we make these guides for ;(

[brave oriole]

that's easy, you need another mage to save rowan from. death 😊 safiya

put Rosa front of daimon, rowan middle safiya up, and Brutus front

[willow moon]

I think Estrilda plows through him regardless of what Silvina does. but I'll try and run that for a while!

[brave oriole]

well, if you want to kill estrilda faster, Rosa daimon up, Rosa running backward will kill eatrilda

but, it's preferable silvina to attack rowan still, so better def on safiya, cuz if she jumps. on safiya will cancel the mantra

and if I think better , front down, it's better ferael than Brutus 😊

[willow moon]

okayokay so what lineup do you think I should rinse repeat here then?

[brave oriole]

daimon
rosa
rowan
ferael
safiya

[willow moon]

afaik it's a combination of Estrilda and Tasi banish that's destroying me here, I was breezing through campaign up til this level

[brave oriole]

and my advice, it's to. get ferael 200+ and reset lyca to 180

[willow moon]

yeahh it's considerably worse imo, daimon dies before even getting an ult off, every does. i think lyca haste is relatively important

i'll keep looping for better rng tho

[brave oriole]

yeah but the lvl not

it's needed for ferael. to. hold. Frontline

[willow moon]

yeah, ferael was at mythic still when I started leveling up Lyca. Daimon can't level anymore til my whole crystal is at 200 so I just started leveling the others
fera will be next for sure though now that he's ascended. I just got him there today through GB faction scrolls

[brave oriole]

it helps ferael lvl Ed for frontline

[willow moon]

silvina goes after rowan though saf dies fast anyway because of morvus. any artifact choices that might not be intuitive with this lineup?

[brave oriole]

well, call daimon

ferael eye, and rqan chalice or call too

[willow moon]

yeah I had all those already :/ hmm

[willow moon]

@brave oriole won with Rosa Lyca Daimon Rowan Fera, in that order

[obtuse sun]

Is it even possible to beat it? If yes then who?

[willow moon]

you're a higher level, of course it's possible. probably something along the lines of daimon rowan tasi gwyn/rosa saveas, hard to say exactly, hero choices are a little meh for this stage tbh

[obtuse sun]

They all die almost instantly only saveas and daimon survive longer

[warm swan]

Some newer players have generally said that their carry Daimon +20 pushed them hard thru several chapters. I haven't had experience with him though.

[brave oriole]

@warm swan yeah, it can be, but not without a good support. I've tried Saurus and worked well 😊

[obtuse sun]

I’ve tried so many formations what can I do

[brave oriole]

@obtuse sun well, its a hard stage if i can say so, bcs the 2 hypogeans are like numitsu, they hit your Backline

[pastel nest]

Hey hey asking for advice on what heroes I should focus on to power up in the long term and optimal formation, am new to the game, help would be appreciated

[brave oriole]

I'm looking for a good setup for you, but looks like you will be able soon to ascend daimon to mythic

@pastel nest meh, there's a nice guide, in the guide section, I can't explain better than there 😁 check out for the pinned msgs

@obtuse sun so man, you. may use a hypogean for more def,
daimon
rosa
rowan
hypogean
saveas
but honestly would help more if daimon 160 and not saveas

[modern kelp]

Hello there, looking for a good lineup for the arena and the challenger tournament, any good help ?
There some whale there that have some strong one 😅

[pastel nest]

If the guides actually said what was good or not other than shemira

[brave oriole]

@pastel nest as a carry yes, the rest of team. should be, from. my point of view Lucius, so shemira and Lucius front line and first ascended, then rowan rosaline for support and the 5th, fawkes athalia nara arden etc etc, by situation.

so if you new player, I'm telling you, this team will get you middle game easy, focus on getting shemira copies from lab, faction scrolls for lightbear, after chap 20,or when ever you have ascended Lucius rowan, focus on wilders, eironn lyca tasi Saurus, and mauler safiya

[pliant holly]

Stuck on 15-40 is it possible to beat with current heroes?

[clever jackal]

help im stuck

[rich tundra]

Hey ya'll so it's gona be a bit until I hit 160 on mirael and legendary+ the main recommended fodder team. But i'm just wandering who I should look out for to transition my main carry once I get there. i have a chest that can get a Daimon and I did pull one Eironn. Thoughts on who I should try to get copies for until then?

[spare cloud]

Lucius is melting who could i replace him with. this teams lost several 3v1 2v1 to Vedan who living by 1 hp : (

[brave oriole]

maybe Brutus, or a hypogean for the 30%def

[nimble fossil]

Who should I use for this?

[vivid basalt]

I'm stuck on 11-30 everything seems to die to fast. Any help be nice I can show more info if needed of my champ pool.

[pale kettle]

Put Lucius on slot 1 and eirron on slot two with mireal on slot three and daimon in slot 4 with either Arden, Lyca, tassie, or nemora on slot 5

Tell me if it works

[vivid basalt]

It doesnt seem to be working but I will give it a few more tries.

[pale kettle]

Ok

[vivid basalt]

Just to be sure this is the formation look u described as well.

[nimble fossil]

So...

[modern matrix]

Stuck on 11-40 what should I use and where do I put them?

[indigo umbra]

I'm halfway through chapter 7, any tips on improving my roster or comp? Currently running Shemira, Rosa, Tasi, Lucius, and Wukong as a general all-purpose team, but i can get an Elite+ Flora soon and then a Talene from the event.

[twilit wharf]

@indigo umbra I would try swapping from tasi to Silas

He’s great early game and as far as I know he’s great late game

[indigo umbra]

Does he need much investment or is he fine at that stage for now

[balmy ermine]

Ok can i get help with my form?

This is slow.

[pale kettle]

@balmy ermine oh honey, don't lvl up so many heroes. Only 5 max and the rest goes into the crystal

[balmy ermine]

Mk.

[pale kettle]

Hero-wise, you're doing ok. The Belinda is kinda questionable. You should have build like a Hogan or Arden to L+

[balmy ermine]

Mk.

[pale kettle]

Check out the beginner's guide inthe pins of #classic-questions and you'll have a good start. You can recover @balmy ermine

[balmy ermine]

Alrighty! Thanks.

[warm swan]

Uh, that basically applies to every single carry in the game? Even Saurus

[grave ruin]

Plan on switching one with flora and want to know if there are any other changes I should make in my back row.

[mild geyser]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

@grave ruin I wouldn't put Flora in since she doesn't help much at a low level. Check the pins in #classic-questions for a beginner's guide on who to use and ascend.

[twilit wharf]

@indigo umbra apologies for not getting back, Silas doesn’t take much to swap to because he’s a good healer regardless

[split peak]

@mild geyser use chicken he is amazing

[proud otter]

I need a little guidance with my lineup. Belinda and Nemora have been carrying me kinda well but I keep getting stuck. I just got shemira and was wondering if I should level her up and use her? I currently use Belinda, Nemora, Brutus, Eironn, and Drez.
Should i replace any of these?

Also I got a "select a faction" epic card as available at the shop and also was wondering if I should just spam "battle of blood"s to get more higher level cards... Though I don't think any would be directly useful?

[pale kettle]

@proud otter check out the pins in #classic-questions for a beginner's guide. Next time though, try not to build anyone to legend without having the spare copy for L+.
As for the card, it won't get higher than epic. You should probably use it on lightbearer as they are easy to use for early game and you can attempt to pull Rowan who is arguably the best support in the game. Spamming the Battle of Blood anymore than your daily 3 wins won't get you anything. It only gives beasts pendants used for exchanging.

[proud otter]

Ooh okay, thank you very much!

[polar coral]

Am I able to get some help with my lineup and some tips for who is good around my level. I’m on chapter 12-14 btw.

My current lineup is Shemira, Belinda, Tadi, Lucius and Wukong

[forest stream]

You have like a lot of legendary heroes in here and they are not even on your crystal. I'd say try to build Rowan he's super useful

[rigid oar]

Can I have some help please 😢

[sinful comet]

What would be my line up for soren fight in guild hunt?

Pls help , tyvm

[pale monolith]

Belinda,Rowan are always good. You should use Cecilia to turn him around and use Saurus in front. Saurus is so good when he survives

[sinful comet]

But I don’t have rowan or saurus In my hero list

[rigid oar]

@pale monolith can I also have some help 👀

[pale kettle]

Lineup help please, iam struggeling in 4-11 rn

[urban cobalt]

@pale kettle Get Wu kong from the event. your lineup will be:
Numisu
Lucius
Mireal
WuKong
Lucretia
(just temporally until you get other units)

[tidal dust]

Naras good too

[urban cobalt]

Nara needs to be lv121

[tidal dust]

What about shemira ?

[acoustic kestrel]

shemira top left, rowan back mid, tasi bottom left, brutus top front, lucius bottom front

[urban cobalt]

Shermia is useless until lv161

[tidal dust]

Not true

[acoustic kestrel]

shes good carry until all your heroes are the same lvl

[urban cobalt]

No. I didn't mean it like that. Just, there are much better units until then.

[rigid oar]

@acoustic kestrel thanks for the answer but they all die pretty fast starting from lucius

[urban cobalt]

@rigid oar Try tasi in, instead of rowan. fRom your originally posted lineup

[rigid oar]

Still going down way too fast

[acoustic kestrel]

switch up brutus and lucius

you should ascend a second tank beacuse they break through your frontline too easy

[rigid oar]

yep not lucky with pulls sadly waiting on 2 rowans and 1 more lucius for mythic

I am just surprised how fast shem is dying still like very fast not even gonna mention how others die hahah

[acoustic kestrel]

do you get stunned by arden's roots?

[somber shoal]

Could anyone help me out here?

[split peak]

@somber shoal try shem up front and please for the love of god stop making so many useless legendaries u could probably have 5 m+ at this point

[somber shoal]

Yea I know.. was my biggest mistake early game

[shrewd moon]

This my line up. I want lucius to change wukong! I need help. Opinions? What should i do?

[worldly sapphire]

Could I get some lineup help kinda new but could use some advice

[arctic kelp]

Anyone have any ideas?

[brave oriole]

@arctic kelp safiya?

[arctic kelp]

Instead of daimon?

[brave oriole]

more like instead of tasi.

[arctic kelp]

I'll try

Sadly didn't work

[brave oriole]

what's your artifacts? @arctic kelp

[brave oriole]

why did you. moved your heroes?

[arctic kelp]

I'm trying different positions. I tried it with th initial positioning too

[brave oriole]

safiya insta die there, rowan is better down bcs he stuns ferael. but try eironn front then, to pull the downside

and keep rowan middle

[arctic kelp]

Alright I'll try those. Thanks

[frail lodge]

anyone can help? i have only tasi for wilders i already see the laneup winning using that.. or my level is too low?

and sorry i try using tasi swith it with lucius

[small acorn]

@frail lodge i would rry replace shem or daimon with tasi and put luci at front

[frail lodge]

my lucius is weak now because he got killed before he cast ulti and my gear is not enough for many tank..
already try give the best gear to lucius but still killed.. maybe i should level him up to 101?

just wondering should i reset my hero and give another chance to other heroes?

shem and daimon cant be in one laneup ?

[small acorn]

@frail lodge saveas is also good. But you need to overlevel 1x hero. Make it yout hypercarry. Saveas, shem, daimon are all great hypercarrys

[frail lodge]

oh i see between that 3 .. i should focus on 1 right? what is the recommended overleveled +10 from average or higher?

[devout idol]

Can i make a decent team for act 10 ?

(Belinda Will be L+ soon)

[pale monolith]

Daimon,Belinda,Farel,Roselia are all great. Also Safyia and Gwyen are great, Safyia for support and Gwyen for carry

[wide gust]

hi any idea what good team can win this?

[small acorn]

@frail lodge overleveled is +20 to +40 always

[devout idol]

i'm actually using front: daimon, lucius - back: nara, rowan, farel

idk how i can upgrade this

[small acorn]

@wide gust im trying to remeber when lyca gets the haste skill.

-Swap out daimon for lyca
-If thoran is gettimg 1shot swap him with talene

• if saveas is cutting through talene and lyca too quickly, then replace nara with arden and put arden bot back to root sav

[wide gust]

ok will try and she does the haste at the beginning

[small acorn]

@devout idol you dont use your belinda?

[frail lodge]

oh i see , i think i will wait for a bit or try to reset my hero.. thanks for the info..

[pale monolith]

I stopped using Lucius because he died too quickly, I have the dead king guy just as a meat shield because he has 2 lifes

[devout idol]

i want to use her, but idk how to create a good formation

[small acorn]

@pale monolith lucius can die quickly. Tanks are good early game and lategame. Not so much midgame.

What are you trying to do?

[pale monolith]

You are missing on something, shes great and I have times when she deals litterLh all the damage

[pale monolith]

Rn my Line-Up is
Rowan
The Dead King
Belinda
Brutus
Cecilia
The heros might vary a bit but the heros are pretty muh the same

[small acorn]

@devout idol belinda goes great with rosa + arden.

You just need to find 2x other heros who can stall for long enough to let bel ult/kill. Usually cc heros are best if you dont have then tNks

[pale monolith]

By vary I mean position

[devout idol]

uh nice, it works 🙂 i'm using her in combo with rosaline

[raw rune]

oh so can i show you @small acorn

[pale monolith]

Belinda goes great woth Rosaline because Belindas ultimate deals insane damage and with Rosaline it will keep chaining it

[small acorn]

@raw rune yep

[raw rune]

here's the sort of damage @small acorn

[brave oriole]

maybe replace fawkes with rosaline

[devout idol]

Completely annihilated here

[nova shore]

Any advice on a line up kinda new to this whole this current is Belinda Lucius front rear Tasi Rowan and Rosaline

[jade axle]

I begin to hard stuck again ... what should i do ?

[small acorn]

@raw rune who does fawkes coffin

[brave oriole]

@raw rune arden it's not insta die? try him. Backline

[raw rune]

brutus

[brave oriole]

@jade axle use your lb team with Gwyneth Lucius etc

[raw rune]

i dont understand what you're saying

[brave oriole]

@raw rune I'm. saying that arden front, it's a mistake, put him back. of. mirael and Rosa front up

[raw rune]

in that replay he is backline

this is the closest I've gotten https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778271255639359569/780576512793509939/Screenshot_20201123-233205.png

[feral eagle]

I begin to hard stuck again ... what should i do ?
@jade axle you lack cc. Get tasi or fawkes in instead of Rosaline.

[raw rune]

hasn't happened in ages though

[small acorn]

@raw rune

Position 1 to 5
Rowan
Saveas
Mireal
Tasi
Arden

@raw rune just keep replaying that comp you posted which you managed to kill 4

[raw rune]

the thing is that's before immunity shield

i cant even reliably get him down to there

and if i dont get him Down there early on then I'm dead anyway

what artifacts for what you've posted i have call grace eye and drape @small acorn

[royal thorn]

This opponent just wipes me out way too quick, is there any solid counter? I can elaborate with hero roster if needed

[small acorn]

@royal thorn need to try charm fereal

[severe ocean]

can i beat this

[digital echo]

Yea u can, with enough time and patience

[tepid holly]

Nemora the farel @severe ocean, hit the refresh button if nemora doesn’t charm feral. Trade safiya for nemora, put nem in the middle

[fickle loom]

@severe ocean ...that's a terrible team. talene is running out her usefulness at E+, although she can still be used depending on enemy. torne is not a frontline, he's like daimon or grezhul--classified as a tank but really quite squishy until he can ult. so what you have there is four damage sources in one team with half a support that's barely on the field. where's your tasi, rowan, rosaline, etc?

[tepid holly]

LOL @royal thorn we run the exact same comp

@severe ocean id swap Thorne for Brutus

@fickle loom any suggestions for my stage?

[fickle loom]

@tepid holly i don't see the point in using double carry, i don't see the point in having talene there when i think the goal when using ainz is to burst enemy down asap, but i'm far enough from that point of the game that i don't exactly feel comfortable giving direct advice. you asked though, so here it is.

[upper cairn]

Hi guys, ive been stuck on 8-16 for the past day or so, i currently cant lvl more past lvl 100 so wondering if my lineup is the problem

[tepid holly]

That’s fair fish, I’m running talene/lyca for either + energy or to tank a hit or two. Daimon’s for the def% down and Brutus for time. Unfortunately my 4/9 Ainz isn’t able to 1 shot after Brutus def down, Daimon def% steal

I could try safiya Rowan Brutus Ainz lyca but it’s not enough for the 1 pop

[severe ocean]

@fickle loom yeah i know that my comp is pretty random, but what should i put in my team then, or who should i try and level up?

[tepid holly]

@severe ocean swap safiya for nemora (nemora in middle, reset if she doesn’t charm feral) thorne for Brutus, Rowan for shem/Belinda whichever gets more dmg in

[severe ocean]

@tepid holly i don't have rowan

but i could put in rosaline

[fickle loom]

@severe ocean one carry, max two, overleveled carry can double as a tank in frontline but if you're using safiya then a ranged backline + saf is a great combo. brutus is useful at times in frontline, so is thoran randomly, tasi nemora rosaline could all fit as well as adding lyca whenever you get some, rowan is pretty much required hero for everyone so add him to when you get some.

[tepid holly]

Should be alright, I don’t think I could’ve beaten that stage without nem charm into feral but that’s my opinion, but nem middle for what’s worked - if she doesn’t charm feral then that’s a hard reset

[severe ocean]

ok thx

[fickle loom]

E arden + E lyca is still a strong combo no matter what level you are, nem + lyca is okay too. nemora by herself or lyca by herself is also useful at times. arden is obviously outclassed by level here but with lyca he can still root amazingly.

[tepid holly]

Could you write me a team comp or 2 @fickle loom, I’m fine with swapping out daimon for supports into Ainz

[fickle loom]

keep in mind arden's actually alive here at the end of the battle with only a tasi in front of him, because lyca + arden started the battle with a lock down and twins + tasi + arden keeps enemies locked out through entire battle.

@tepid holly i don't know if ainz can front line but give that a try probably. lyca other front as a sacrifical haste, brutus as swap. tasi rowan rosaline backline. if ainz just dies then you could try brutus lyca front i guess. thoran works sometimes. talene is still great against the right comps. idk, just experiment lol, there's never only one thing that works, and sometimes what you need is just levels in the end.

[tepid holly]

Thank u, I’ll try that out

[zenith jungle]

Im stuck on 10-20. Can i get help with my lineup please? I have room in my crystal if i need to level someone up.

[tepid holly]

F

[severe ocean]

ok i have one more question, what would be a great team for the stages around chapter 20

[fickle loom]

sometimes what you need is just levels in the end. except not in the way you expected

[raw rune]

lol

[tepid holly]

Why aren’t rowan’s potions healing Ainz?

[clever jackal]

out of range

[dull trellis]

Hi guys, who should I put next on crystal? Maybe a tank like hodan or skreg ?

[silent rover]

highburn stronghold these 2 left.. literally impossible :( help

[brave oriole]

I dunno, nemora helped me lots, but with eironn comp

[summer walrus]

Who should i use in my lineup? Did i level the heroes i should upgrade or should i reset them?

[glossy sedge]

Any improvement that can be done?

[brave oriole]

@glossy sedge maybe one more mage, so silvina won't attack your rowan

[somber lance]

I've been stuck here for a while any suggestions?

[fallen flame]

I’m having a crap ton of trouble on this stage, mainly because Vedan’s bat mode prevents him from dying and he kills Belinda and Rose before they can deal any solid damage, and his regeneration abilities make him basically impossible to take down. Oden doesn’t help because Arden roots Silas, and so Oden does to Silv before Silas can get unrooted.

[brave oriole]

@somber lance would help more to charm ferael, but you may need Brutus front down, and Lucius back. try without daimon at all.

[modern matrix]

Stuck on 11-40, any tips?

[somber lance]

@brave oriole not working out, I'll just wait and level up my heroes and see what I can do, thank you for your help 😄

[brave oriole]

@somber lance if a bad stage at all, gb vs lb, they are hella buffed, it's even a 5x gb stage., but from experience, you need a fawkes to remove that shemira, so you Lucius would be able to tank up. Belinda may stay alive front down with rosaline back of her, if not Rosa front and Belinda back. do you have a rowan? try maybe safiya if no rowan, instead of nara

[somber lance]

I think I do have a Fawkes, and no I havent gotten rowan, I think he's the only Lightbearer that I'm missing

[glossy sedge]

thank you @brave oriole

[naive crown]

Is my team still “good”? I have no clue what the meta stuff is anymore.

[peak magnet]

@tepid holly rowan’s potions have a specific range. He can’t heal the enemy on the diagonal furthest from him.

@naive crown no. Thats not a “meta” team by any means. The meta teams are: eironn lyca tasi rowan safyia and the gwen comp (gwen arthur estrilda ferael rosa/hendrik/etc)

[naive crown]

my team feels old

[peak magnet]

It is. You should probably be in ch 27 with that level

[naive crown]

chapter 25 currently

[peak magnet]

Dm me and i’ll help you out

[dusky mirage]

any lineups for 30 44?

[ionic kestrel]

Morning folks! I’ll be adding another slot to the resonating crystal soon. Which hero would you guys recommend I slap in there?

[grand perch]

Hello @olive storm,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[olive storm]

Hi everyone newer player... how can I improve my team? Thanks 🙂

[pale kettle]

only level up 5 characters, put the rest in the resonating crystal, reset the rest in the rickety cart

[proper glade]

What are good teams with Lyca? In general. Lvl 200+

[next flume]

the 30% defense buff is no joke lol, even with lvl 1 character i finally managed to beat this stage

[warm swan]

@proper glade Generally, Saf and Eironn comp

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions?

[proper glade]

Safi?@warm swan

[modern matrix]

Still stuck 11-40 any tips?

My rowan is a legendary+ now

[warm swan]

@proper glade Safiya, yes

[valid hamlet]

Which tanks would you recommend with for an Eironn/Daimon comp? Currently have Gorvo at M and most tanks in game at E+

[proper glade]

Ok thank you.
I always have to think of Safi'jiiva when I hear this name lol

[sand mountain]

Can someone help me?

?

[pale kettle]

How

[spice flax]

How2beat

[warm swan]

@pale kettle Ezizh, Warek, Nara, Isa, Silas

[pale kettle]

Need some assistance

[warm swan]

@pale kettle Google Silas Trial

[pale kettle]

Alright

Is there anything that can work now or the only solution is breaking the crystal level cap? everyone gets deleted almost instantly except for eironn and rosaline (also I stopped making random legendaries don't yell at me pls)

[serene quest]

Any advice? Tried about 300 attempts with every setup I can think of, but athalia shreds whatever I put in front of her in 1 hit. And Farael just makes the rest kinda impossible to do anything about

Roster here

[random bay]

Can someone help?

[shrewd sorrel]

Hi guys need help z lineup

[olive storm]

Ooo okay. Are there any good guides for a base team that’s solid?

[warm swan]

@pale kettle I'm very much tempted to tell you to experiment on Mehira at position 3. Lol. But uh, try Rowan, Lyca, Lucius, Mirael, Rosa. Lyca will get 1shot but she's just there for the haste buff. Hopefully Mira+Rosa can combo more than once to wipe majority of the enemies.

[mild geyser]

@serene quest maybe suck ferael and arden and like brutus if lyca cant dodge athalia

[serene quest]

Tried that, but then eiron only manages to pull 1 in 10 tries due to lack of haste, and Im missing too much damage, so athalia gets her ult off before any of my units does, which just oneshots the entire team

[brave oriole]

@serene quest Lucius with call should do well vs athalia, so. maybe try Lucius eironn front, and rowan middle, remove ferael I guess, and keep lyca

[serene quest]

he literally gets oneshot

at 279 with half t1, half t2

[brave oriole]

well, lyca there won't help, bcs you won't pull athalia at all. I dunno, maybe try your lucky with Nemora to charm ferael and get some heals

[serene quest]

honestly seems like its mostly I gear issue

guess I need at least full t1 on the entire team to avoid getting oneshot by athalias ult

[brave oriole]

I dunno, replace lyca with talene in your current setup, put call. on eironn tasi, chalice on rowan, eye ferael

[serene quest]

oh fucking finally, managed to get a better rowan as merc, and did those dura changes

4 hours of trying comps, finally done

[brave oriole]

sometimes eironn need call to freeze faster

[serene quest]

yeah, that sure helped, and talene really pulled through as well

[brave oriole]

yeah, she helps at the first attack, to keep eironn alive after pulling

[serene quest]

ah well, time to get hardstuck at ch27, hehe, thanks for your help

[brave oriole]

@serene quest just get a better lyca and you will be fine 👍

[serene quest]

yeah, I have enough copies to get her to 3*, but missing fodder

[brave oriole]

sacrifice something I guess, I personally like to. fodder kaz and seirus 😂

[serene quest]

yeah, maybe, still short even with that, might go do some normal summons before finishing off talene

[onyx mason]

Ideas? This team gets me the closest

[dull ruin]

@brave oriole

[primal jasper]

Any help?

[brave oriole]

@dull ruin I dunno, replace fawk with Nemora? put shem. down and Lucius front up with dura's call

[brave oriole]

@primal jasper I would use shemira at all lvled, and not Belinda. you need fodders to ascend rowan Lucius etc, you will get slow that many lb fodders, so better go for shemira as Carry, and focus on a better rowan Lucius. as about the stage, if shemira
rosa
shem
rowan
Brutus
lucius/some hypogean etc

[stiff siren]

any 33-32 with no thoran

[brave oriole]

@dull ruin I dunno, i would. prefer
fawk
shem
rowan
rosa
Lucius call

[dull ruin]

hmm to much damage

[onyx mason]

I could use help too while I’m at it

[brave oriole]

Lucius shield up? @dull ruin

[dull ruin]

ye but they just go through it

[brave oriole]

rosa dies at start? @dull ruin

[dull ruin]

she usually dies before lucius shield

and if she does make it, she dies throug hthe shield

[brave oriole]

mhm, not helps then. try lyca in Rosa place for a sec

[dull ruin]

lyca gets oneshot lol

[brave oriole]

that I know, but I'm. curious if shem ultimate faster

[dull ruin]

a bit

[brave oriole]

ok

now try without fawk, and put Rosa back of shem

[dull ruin]

rosa stil dies

[brave oriole]

put some defense artifact oh Rosa, I dunno, she will work at some. point if shem could ultimate

[dull ruin]

this is what you recommend right

[brave oriole]

no, swap Rosa with lyca

if not works in a few tries that well, try
Lucius
rosa
rowan
shem
fawk
but i dunno. if Lucius can directly tank upside front, with fawk back of him, would be better

[mild geyser]

have you tried charming ferael?

[brave oriole]

I guess he did, but ferael it's not that big issue on this lvl

[mild geyser]

idk ferael was always a pain in the ass to fight for me. I would think ferael prevents shem from ulting and the rest kinda finish it off

[pale kettle]

What is a good arena comp i could have right now?

[primal jasper]

But shemira can only go to 120 and so do most of the heroes u mention. They just get one shot.

But I'll reset sav and bel and level rosa and rowan. Let them support shem and brutus

[brave oriole]

@primal jasper she's l, should. go to 140 max lvl, it's bcs she's in the crystal, not on your top 5 heroes

[primal jasper]

Should I fodder belinda to rowan?

[brave oriole]

no, never such thing. check out some. guide here on discord, to see what and what

there's a pinned beginner guide to see what's fodder and what's not etc

[primal jasper]

Ah ok, yeah I know I shouldnt but cant hurt to ask haha

[brave oriole]

@dull ruin 👍

[dull ruin]

oh nice, got thalene from those free 10 stargaze thingies

[primal jasper]

Yeah still getting one shot

[stuck siren]

can someone help me please thank you

[pale kettle]

I want to beat this without mercenaries

@pale kettle do you have a specific question?

Well what heros do you have

Shemira, lucias, lyca rosa, you didn't invest in rowan hes like the best support?

You want to get him to M or something pretty quick hes core to most teams

Otherwise throw nemora in ig

You need more healing to stay alive, like a talene mercenary would be great

Since shemira is your carry and you dont seem to have belinda

[earnest hinge]

having a helluva time on this one, i copied someones successful formation (ascension levels slightly different)

so much energy control on their end i can never get a consisten ult

[stuck trellis]

@stuck siren

[royal thorn]

Any other suggestions? can elaborate if needed

[stuck trellis]

@stuck siren if you have skriath 3/3 then i have another option for you that doesnt need izold

@royal thorn try this?

brutus
talene
silas
rowan
daimon

u dont need two dps in that team, daimon is more than enough

[pale kettle]

Help me line up

[mild geyser]

reset everyone but wukong and get wukong to 80 and everyone else to 60 then have arden root belinda

maybe put in nara for ferael

[tepid holly]

@pale kettle have u got any luck with ur stage?

[pale kettle]

@tepid holly no

[tepid holly]

Rip

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle that's easy I guess, got Rosa?

[royal thorn]

This doesn’t work im afraid

[pale kettle]

?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle try
fawk
Brutus or Lucius with dura's call
rowan
rosa
shem

[pale kettle]

Team gets deleted way to fast

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle shouldn't, maybe try for a sec arden instead of fawkes

[little root]

anyone got tip?

[last fjord]

Could I get some help here

[summer cedar]

try ferael for belinda, swap tasi and daimon's positions? wait what game mode is this that your luci is injured and u have energy?

[last fjord]

It is one of the peaks of time

I managed to beat those already , progressing thru soo far

[bleak bridge]

Need some help please

[wide gust]

im stuck sooo bad please help thanks in advance

[mild geyser]

Any ideas?

[rare umbra]

Help please

[summer cedar]

try daimon position 5, arden pos3 maybe

[pale kettle]

or just level up belinda more

[sand breach]

Any tips to beat this?

[cerulean lynx]

Any suggestion how to fight this? Hate vedan

[boreal breach]

Any advice

@cerulean lynx have you tried lyca instead of the squirrel?

[cerulean lynx]

Hmm yeah I did. My problem is my mirael can't kill vedan in her first ult before he transforms and wipes me

[robust forum]

Does anybody have any suggestions on how I can get past here? Thanks

This was a formation I saw in-game, but I get wiped almost instantly

[royal thorn]

Any suggestions for clearing this?

[slim trout]

Been stuck for a while any ideas?

[pale kettle]

@sand breach swap Rosa and Rowans' positions. Talene can afford to die, Shemira does not.

[weak island]

Ideas? My best attempt so far with this got it down to the Saveas and Hypogean

[summer cedar]

drop lucius for daimon is my lazy first instinct

[pale kettle]

@cerulean lynx see if you can tank with Saveas in front of Vedan. Rather than Mirael up front, put her back center with Rowan at the side of her and Lyca in the other side. So formation would be: Lucius, Saveas, Lyca, Mirael and Rowan in that order.

[cerulean lynx]

Ok I'll give it a shot. Thanks!

[pale kettle]

@boreal breach you have too many carries. Choose either Shemira or Belinda and replace the other with a Rosa

@robust forum Try Skreg, Tidus, Warek, Safiya and Numisu in that order

@royal thorn can you post your full roster? Your comp is all over the place (with the glaring weakness being 2 carries in your team) and I can't see the rest of your heroes.

@slim trout post your full roster. But usually in your case (which is early game) following the beginner's guide from the pins of #classic-questions would mitigate you being stuck until like the end of chapter 15

@weak island instead of Tasi, see if you can use Nemora to charm Saveas instead. Also, instead of Lucius, try Rosaline

[undone olive]

Need help for last ch29 stage

[weak island]

@pale kettle It works well at the start but Nemora never manages to build up enough for her ult before she dies

[pale kettle]

@undone olive what artifact do you have on Ferael? Grace would probably help you if he doesn't have it already. Also, maybe try and use Saurus instead of Tasi to tank the Brutus. Shame he's not +30, but you work with what you got.

@weak island try giving her Dura's call if you have it.

[undone olive]

@pale kettle thanks for your help, I won it with the lineup I have shown. Just needed more tries :)

[weak island]

@pale kettle Still not quick enough, everyone besides her and Belinda usually die by then, and they're still left with like 3 heroes

[pale kettle]

@weak island I guess only thing left to do is to either Ascend stuff, use Daimon, or afk for more exp.

[weak island]

Who should I buff with exp, just everyone to 140?

Nvm I can't get everyone to 140, only my Daimon and Belinda can

[pale kettle]

@weak island wait, Why isn't Arden L+? You have 1 Ira and 3 Ardens

[weak island]

Oh right, I was postponing whether or not to tier him up because of the Saurus

Or should I just use an Adren to tier the Adren up?

[pale kettle]

@weak island you can always merc Saurus for guild boss and such, but Arden is what you need. If you can get him to lvl 141, you can fly through stages with his triple entanglement

[weak island]

Ah, fair enough, should I use Saurus as one of the mats though?

[pale kettle]

@weak island Nooooo! Never feed Ascended tier heroes. Unless you're end game and the units are totally maxed out, never feed them. Plus, Saurus is a staple to almost all boss fight

[weak island]

Gotcha, alright, thanks for the as dvicr, I'll report in a bit

[pale kettle]

Good luck!

[weak island]

@pale kettle Forgot to ask, who would I replace Arden for

[elfin pendant]

Im abit stuck again. I can’t figure out who to field to support and tank... Brutus is the only meatshield who lasts long enough to stall and i lost Silas so...

Heres the rest of the roster that I forgot to put

[pale kettle]

@weak island Probably Lucretia

[neon nova]

I need halp 😭

[dense cove]

What should be my carry next? Team as below

[marsh nymph]

Help pls

[royal thorn]

Does anybody have any suggestions as to what i have to do to beat this?

[wind fox]

Any suggestions that could help or should I slow down a bit?

[twilit wharf]

@wind fox try to swap to Shemira as a carry, also use Rosaline with ainz

[formal gazelle]

Get safiya mytic and make her my carry idk if she is a good carry or mythic skreg for tank? :( im stuck on where to progress from here

[static bluff]

Stuck tryna break out of chapter 10. I hate vedan 😭

[tall lichen]

Any suggestions to make the push to ch.18? TIA.

[mild geyser]

have nemora charm ferael take out lucius for like tasi maybe brutus for talene if front line dies quick

[mellow marsh]

Is it good

[tall lichen]

Pulled it off with this @mild geyser

And probs some rng

[mild geyser]

nice congrats

[royal thorn]

Anyone know how to beat this?

[spiral finch]

Could I please get some help with this

[indigo iron]

any comp advice to last two enemy in ToG ?

[wind fox]

@wind fox try to swap to Shemira as a carry, also use Rosaline with ainz
@twilit wharf

[tepid holly]

Whelp

[pulsar crest]

any suggestions?

[twilit wharf]

@wind fox

[uncut thicket]

Help with 8-40 boiz

[twilit wharf]

@uncut thicket could you give us a bit more details?

[uncut thicket]

oh sorry like what?

[pale kettle]

@uncut thicket not many good frontlines for you. Try and build Hogan and Saveas to L+ and have them tank hits for you. Shemira's not great below lvl 160 so you're better off using Mirael or Saveas as your dps. Flora's not that good at low lvl either. Check out the pins in #classic-questions for a beginner's guide and you'll have an idea of your path and goal.

[uncut thicket]

@pale kettle thank you so much!

[forest cliff]

Some help please

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff see if you can use Nara to stunlock Shemira in place of Safiya

[forest cliff]

something vaporizes nara instantly before she can do anything, no idea what

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff then try Ferael in place of Saf and pray for good rng

[forest cliff]

i have no gear for him

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff he can't borrow from someone?

[forest cliff]

eironn or lyca...

those are the only 2 sets of agi gear i have invested in so far

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff what about using Saurus and see if you can outlast them?

[forest cliff]

i did try him instead of tasi, and it didnt help

[pale kettle]

Have you tried him instead of Saf? Bump up your faction bonus and hopefully Tasi banishes Shemira while Eironn and Saurus do work with the rest

[forest cliff]

ill try, and shem does get banished

[rugged bane]

Help? Ira melts Daimon when she ults

[pale kettle]

Try Lucius, Saveas, Rosa, Rowan and Daimon in that order @rugged bane if that doesn't work, use Hogan instead of Lucius

[forest cliff]

that worked, thanks

[pale kettle]

I get instantly deleted here

@pale kettle Lucius, Shemira, Nara, Rowan and Rosa in that order.

[pale kettle]

I had to move gear around but it worked eventually

Lotta cc here and the supports get oneshot

@pale kettle swap Rowan and Shemira, then use Ferael instead of Tasi.

[pale kettle]

Feael did nothing since belinda one tapped him at start but the repositioning made it work and pass

[forest cliff]

Thoughts?

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff Rowan, Eironn, Tasi, Lyca and Saurus in that order.

[forest cliff]

no go

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff yeah, you really should build that Nara. Lol

[forest cliff]

i want to, but right now its either nara or daimon

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff who does Tasi banish?

[forest cliff]

the fire witch chick up top

[pale kettle]

Oh, well that stinks

@forest cliff try Rowan, Nako, Eironn, Lyca and Saurus

[forest cliff]

same thing with the farel, i dont have a good gear set for nako

[pale kettle]

Aw, I was betting on Nako's Mamahaha interrupting Ferael

[forest cliff]

then why did you say to put her on top

[pale kettle]

I want her frontline to stunlock Brutus while her bird interrupts the backline enemies @forest cliff

[forest cliff]

but you said to put her in front of hendrick,, not brutus

[pale kettle]

No, Rowan is in front of Hendrik. I put his name first so his position is 1 which is in front of Hendrik

[pale kettle]

Wtf?

Why is your position 1 not frontline like mine?

[forest cliff]

what do you mean

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff look at the numbers on my side of the field on my alt.

[pale kettle]

Yeah, the first hero you pick automatically aligns with the corresponding number on your side of the field.

[forest cliff]

so i read that list you gave me as top to bottom, not 1-5

[pale kettle]

I always write out the units from 1 to 5. That's the easiest way to put down the exact formation for me.

[forest cliff]

everyone else has always done it top to bottom

[pale kettle]

They usually write it out like this:
Unit3
->unit1
Unit4
->unit2
Unit5

I don't have time to do that so I just write it out in one line

[forest cliff]

well that is a top to bottom list. but now that we got that cleared up, im trying that first lineup you gave again

[spiral finch]

Could I please get some help with this?

[pale kettle]

Well...technically I do have time, but I like this quicker way.

[rugged bane]

I swapped Saveas for Tasi and that worked, thanks 👍

[pale kettle]

@rugged bane nice

[rugged bane]

This one's giving me trouble now though, Ogi just ends up stun locking Daimon until Ira ults

[pale kettle]

@spiral finch you've built too many Legend units. Check out the beginner's guide in the pins of #classic-questions but I digress. Try Lucius, Brutus, Rosa, Rowan and Belinda in that order.

[forest cliff]

yea that lineup still doesnt work

[pale kettle]

@rugged bane Try Saveas, Lucius, Rosa, Rowan and Daimon. Maybe that'll work

[spiral finch]

Oh man, Ive messed up haven't I?

[pale kettle]

Oh big time.

[spiral finch]

I was just yoloing, this is the first time I've gone for help, I didn't know

[pale kettle]

@forest cliff do you have like some spare Legend gear for Ferael?

[spiral finch]

So, can I fix it? Are heros on resonating crystals selected automatically?

[forest cliff]

he is wearing mostly mythic, but i havent leveled it up yet

[pale kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/XWL2B4f.png https://i.imgur.com/AOC7Ihy.png any way i can beat this?

@spiral finch atm, you probably have to heavily rely on rng summons to get the right copies to fix everyone (except farmable ones in the lab store). Eventually, it'll get fixed, but your progress has been hindered by quite a lot. The top 5 heroes in the resonating crystal is whoever has the highest level, but you can change whoever's up there by ascending the right heroes and leveling said heroes as high as you can. You only focus on 5 max. Check the beginner's guide. It'll help immensely.

@forest cliff as long as he doesn't get one shot before he can do his cc, I think he can help you out.

[forest cliff]

he worked, thanks

[pale kettle]

Do you think I could do anything to beat this stage Momo?

@pale kettle you have 3 dps heroes. You need to change that and throw in more supports. Try Arden instead of Shemira and lower Rowan's defense to bait the Silvina and keep Arden alive

@pale kettle also don't ascend so many heroes like that. Focus on 5 as best you can bc your goal is to have 5 Ascended to start lvling up the resonating crystal. Check the beginner's guide in the pins of #classic-questions

[spiral finch]

Thanks @pale kettle :)

[pale kettle]

Dont ascend them to L+?

@pale kettle pool your resources and fodders to only 5 heroes with the most copies. Besides L+ fodders (which you'll need to make M and M+), you don't need to make anyone else L+.

[untold rivet]

Please help me complete this challenge

[pale kettle]

@untold rivet can you merc a good Saurus? Maybe an Izold? If yes on either, try them with Tasi, Nemora, Estrilda and Rowan

[tired copper]

passing campaign bosses at 50% power is hard ><

think I'm just gonna have to wait and level up heros

[tropic pecan]

Hey 👋 I'm just wondering if any advice on passing this stage, I messed up earlier on not knowing the game too well I'm thinking..

Any advice would be great ☺️

[viscid cape]

this is what i have for now. any suggestions who put in the team.. oh shit pic

[elfin pendant]

Im seriously just fucking stuck. Ive been here for 2 days and nothing i’ve tried has worked.

[frosty bay]

Guys is Flora worth rasing?

[pale monolith]

Yes

[pale monolith]

You have Belinda as carrier yet she's in front row, switch her with Rowan

[shrewd sorrel]

Help me plss

ive been stuck at it for days

[frosty bay]

She's Celestial I think i don't have enough resources But she's so gorgeous

[pale kettle]

Saurus
Wukong
Lyca/Gywn
Brutus
Nemora
@shrewd sorrel

[shrewd sorrel]

okay tnx imma try

[pale monolith]

Shes extremely good end-game and I had times when she dealt all the damage and did all the healing

[pale kettle]

to beeing flora worth u need a dam big frontlane @frosty bay

save ur coins for Ainz

[pale monolith]

Ainz do be wiping the whole team

[shrewd sorrel]

Well tht didnt work

@pale kettle

[pale monolith]

Saurus can die quiet quickly, I don't know if it works for you but for me in chapter 9 he didn't work

[pale kettle]

im not sure, I think I did chap 9-12 in the last 3 days with AInz^^ but I'm also not playing with gywn, dont like her early

[brave oriole]

without a rowan rosa, it's always hard to win

[pale monolith]

Rowans healing too op

[shrewd sorrel]

well the problem is the only place i can use saurus for great damage is w Vedan bcs Issabella b wreacking saurus 1 hit

[shrewd sorrel]

yeah ik but i dont have them yet

and at tower im olso stuck so thats a bummer

[brave oriole]

this stage its hard for a reason, at 121 your enemies unlocked a new skill

[pale monolith]

Ik it deals lots of damage, for me I did Chapter 9 with Belinda,Brutus,Rowan,Cecilia,Lucius

[pale kettle]

Nemora (charm isabelle)
Wukong
arden/lyca
Saurus
Gywn

[shrewd sorrel]

yeah i dont have that much luck w getting usefull heros haha

[brave oriole]

you can anytime. put Cecilia vs isabela

[shrewd sorrel]

ill try

[brave oriole]

try to get as much you can a faction team

[shrewd sorrel]

okay imma tryµ

[pale monolith]

Well I dont use Saurus but I keep getting him and Lyca (For every 5 elites Ive got 2 would've been Saurus)

[brave oriole]

if you need more help, use some hypogean, will help your carry the 30/def

[pale kettle]

and dont say after one try dont work. Sometimes u need 20-30 trys^^

[shrewd sorrel]

Hypogean? sorry idk what that is hehe

[pale kettle]

My longes was 3 hours long same team retry

[shrewd sorrel]

alright imma try

[brave oriole]

Leticia or how's she s name, she's a hypogean and gives 30%def to your team

[pale monolith]

Lucretia is Hypogean

[shrewd sorrel]

oh okay i have her

[pale monolith]

Hypogeans are also great because they brung bring advantages when only 1 iß on the battlefield

[pale kettle]

oh right he have lucretia. Thats could help^^

[brave oriole]

Cecilia would easy disable Isabela, just need Gwyneth to burn them

lyca helps also for this

[pale monolith]

I use Cecilia, people say shes not that good but when the whole team does no damage except for 1 hero and Cecila reduces the heros damage by 60% it's op

Shes also great in Guild Hunt

[brave oriole]

she looks good to me

[shrewd sorrel]

so i should use ceci for isabella saurus for vedan, and would lyca go middle or bottom ?

[pale monolith]

Yeah but Lyca is good late game

[brave oriole]

middle should be Gwyneth

nah, she's good even now for the haste, since there's no Rosa

[shrewd sorrel]

okay and if i would use lucretia who should i get off the team

[pale monolith]

You can view charts after battle to see wich was the least useful

[brave oriole]

try
Cecilia
lucretia
Gwyneth
Saurus
lyca

[shrewd sorrel]

just did that one and lucratia didnt do anything

oh wait i forgotr to give armor

[brave oriole]

yeah, I didn't expected todo anything, but she gives you 30%def

[pale monolith]

Ita very hard to give advixe when you dont know how a team works

[shrewd sorrel]

yeah true

[pale monolith]

I asked for advice and this guy (Chapter 30) was like: Use Tasi shes really good and that turner it 100x times worse

[shrewd sorrel]

okay so atm the only thing that wrecks my team is when vedan turns into batman

[brave oriole]

then, avoid to dmg him, use Brutus, not Saurus

[shrewd sorrel]

i kill vurk and issa but then vedan slays

[pale monolith]

Brutus is very good been using hin since early game and I use the artifact that shields him after an Ultimate

[shrewd sorrel]

okay

isnt there a way to kill nemora early game bcs she helps vedan a bit 2 much

[brave oriole]

well, its rng, gwyneyh may kill nemora at some. point

[shrewd sorrel]

oh okay

[pale monolith]

I forgot her name but she is Gravebron and has a hook

[shrewd sorrel]

okayy great now i only have vedan and grez alive the battle is going better

[brave oriole]

what artifact do you use on Gwyneth?

[pale monolith]

Lets hope

[brave oriole]

no idea what's available already for you at this lvl

[shrewd sorrel]

the onlyone i have i just cant pass world 3

Duras grace its called

[brave oriole]

get a rowan+30 or a Saurus +30 as merc for peaks labs guild boss etc

would help a lot each of them

[shrewd sorrel]

okay

but doesnt my hero need to b mythic for sig item?

[brave oriole]

no, merc would keep it's sig

just not the gear lvl

but if it's a Saurus 5 stars and +30,will stay so for you too

[shrewd sorrel]

wait im not following

[brave oriole]

you hero have to be mythic for si, but the mercenaries would keep their si ascension

anyway, I'm. having an alt if you need rowan and Saurus +30, add 30423685

[shrewd sorrel]

okay but ill have to wait 3 days tho bcs i had to use a friends hero for a lvl

[brave oriole]

you can still use merc on lab guild hunting tr peaks etc etc

[shrewd sorrel]

oh okay where do i add u

[brave oriole]

go to friend list, add, and put that number I gave you

[slender ferry]

Help

[brave oriole]

@slender ferry I dunno, but, pull vurk somehow

[slender ferry]

??

[shrewd sorrel]

well i cant find the add

[brave oriole]

on friend settings

[shrewd sorrel]

added

[brave oriole]

@slender ferry like swap safiya with eironn

[slender ferry]

Okay thanks I’ll give it a try

[brave oriole]

get rowan also to be there

[slender ferry]

The problem is tasi and Brutus tbh

[brave oriole]

well, Saurus can easy kill tasi, but safiya also if she get nuked by safiya

try
safiya
tasi
rowan
lyca
eironn

[slender ferry]

Okay ty

[tame maple]

Any help for chapter 12?..

[brave oriole]

@slender ferry also, blade in eironn its a huge mistake, it's eye or sometimes call

[shrewd sorrel]

Would this one work?

[tepid holly]

Only L if you can L+ @tame maple, I ran daimon & Ainz ch 10-19. You could run Ainz, Rowan, rosa, Lucius & fawkes

@shrewd sorrel that merc’d saurus should carry that one ez

[shrewd sorrel]

okay good

[tepid holly]

Could get some help on this

[raw rune]

don't underestimate kaz @tepid holly

[brave oriole]

@tepid holly usually fawkes helps more vs ferael, or. maybe nemora to abuse him 😊

[tepid holly]

@raw rune 👀 not sure how to respond to that since she’s only E+. @brave oriole I’ve hit the retry button 1000x times whenever nemora doesn’t charm feral but I’m still getting nuked from vedan - best rng runs still leave me 1/2 enemies left after ainz’s 1st or 2nd nuke

[shrewd sorrel]

oh my @brave oriole thanku so much for the merc he slayed it like it was nothing

[raw rune]

she has dodge and power @tepid holly so

and she's l not e

[brave oriole]

@tepid holly I don't know, replace Brutus with rosaline?

[tame maple]

@tepid holly Thanks, I'll try it out.

[tepid holly]

@raw rune you think her dodge mechanic would help me from not getting 1 shot when everyone except Ainz isn’t 😨

[raw rune]

i meant on the wilder stage...

[tepid holly]

OHHH this whole time I thought u meant mine 😂

[raw rune]

yeah i realised just then

[tepid holly]

It’s all g, I could try rosaline @brave oriole but she’s prob gonna get 1 shot too, the only reason brutus’ there is to buy time for ainz’s energy from call & chant

[brave oriole]

I can't see any reason for your Brutus there, and Rosa cannot die one hit on this stage, I'm sure

[tepid holly]

Nvm 😫

[brave oriole]

well, try eironn instead of nemora

maybe the power will be okay, maybe

well, you need rowan, sure thing

[tepid holly]

Safiya’s just there to let me demo the stage

[brave oriole]

yeah but it's a huge diff with rowan

[tepid holly]

Yeah I’ll try that out and let the runs play if nem charms feral, if not - I’ll just spam resets

[brave oriole]

tho, I havent played ainz a lot yet, but i dont think that she's better than shem until mid game

[tepid holly]

I’m actually 1 Rowan from M, I’ve got the food and everything ready

[brave oriole]

shemira is a strong Frontline

well, for ainz it's a must duras call I guess

[tepid holly]

Yeah, I’m running single dura’s

As for shem, daimon >shem xept he can never be put in frontline

[brave oriole]

yeah, and that means, that you need daimon+a front line, while shem. don't need

[tepid holly]

I normally run daimon&ainz for the def%&atk% dec from daimon’s ult + stealing max hp so Ainz gets easier ult, if I can’t nuke on the 1st then I would get enough energy from kills for the 2nd. Prob is vedan dives hard into my squishy comp

[brave oriole]

I have always picked shem. and Lucius my Frontline, never failed 😥 and started about 6 accs

[tepid holly]

Even double calls on daimon&ainz for haste+energy into lyca’s haste + energy doesn’t get the blood shield in time 🤦🏻‍♂️

Have you had the option of having a daimon on your shem accounts? I’m 1 shem away from ascend but I’ve got feral ready for M, so I’ll having food problems for GB, 2 daimon’s from A as well

[pale kettle]

and at the end twins for hast?

[brave oriole]

yeah I did, but always went for shem first

[tepid holly]

1 Rowan from M so my prio’s to get Rowan up first, all my silver and golds for Rowan till +20 - I could but out since diff fodder but primordials and golds would take me awhile

[buoyant sequoia]

Hey im having trouble with my lineup any ideas on wich heroes i should pic and where i should place them.

[brave oriole]

yeah, but @tepid holly, you don't have any tank, it will. be an issue

[tepid holly]

Brutus?

[brave oriole]

ainz daimon, they all need a tank. and with Brutus, you may have issues with the power, to ascend him, not rlly worth for now

I dunno, start building Wilders from. now

[tepid holly]

I’m keeping Brutus at E+, my maulers are lacking but if I do have fodder to get my next M/A in maulers, it’d probably be for Brutus to link for Arthur (30/60) shards

[brave oriole]

Arthur it's nothing without Gwyneth.. do you work on?

[tepid holly]

I’ll also get albedo so when I get another M/A I’ll run Ainz daimon albedo Arthur Rowan

[pale kettle]

Well Arthur is a nice tank, also without gwyn.

[tepid holly]

Albedo Ainz Arthur +75% def (for Ainz albedo Arthur) on SI 20 albedo

[brave oriole]

even so, they would insta die on. some stages 😊

this its a team for late game mostly

consider that you won't have much faction gear etc etc

[pale kettle]

sure on Chap. 20 I pref. shem/Belinda gameplay^^. I will test on my twink Ainz gameplay in early and mid^^

[brave oriole]

yeah, shem it's even better than before, furnitures academy

shem Lucius rowan rosa, easy to chap 28+

[pale kettle]

y my last one was fawkes/tasi depends on enemys

[brave oriole]

it's nice bcs you only need to ascend shem. and Lucius, others can be lows, the whole Backline. used fawk e+ like a boss

[tepid holly]

I can get lucius to M, but that’ll eat up my fodders for Rowan

[brave oriole]

you need a Frontline, it's up to you

[whole flare]

guys is flora good to have? i can get 3 more copies (for a total of 4)

[brave oriole]

well, she is good, but investing on SI, like +30etc

[pale kettle]

late she's rly good, but u need a dam nice frontlane, gear and SI

[brave oriole]

it's a late game hero more

but won't hurt to get if you can 😊

[whole flare]

i see.

[brave oriole]

just she won't be wow until late game

[whole flare]

i'm still at chapter 9 lol. i got one copy from draw 😅

[tepid holly]

Think it’s worth getting my lucius to M and wait on Rowan? I can prob hit my fac scrolls into wilders/lightbearers after going thru the next few ch’s

To get Rowan to M ASAP after Lucius

[brave oriole]

@tepid holly that's what I always did, lb to get Lucius rowan copies then Wilders

[pale kettle]

Early I use all scrolls in Light - I startet using scrolls in wilder on chap 28 or so.^^

chap 28 I played with LB comb + sometimes saurus/talene

[tepid holly]

If my lucius can make the diff and get off an ult at least once then Ainz/daimon can work - shem will be saved for link into Arthur/albedo as she’ll be redundant later on. Also to up my ascend count for selects

[brave oriole]

well, my shem Lucius rowan rosa team, worked always easy and fast kill. ainz would need a Frontline, so you have to build it

even if you Gonna get albedo and Arthur, you will still need something to link with

[tepid holly]

^ shem link to albedo/Arthur

[brave oriole]

yeah, I'm using shem also for Arthurs

[shrewd sorrel]

@brave oriole the saurus just soloed map 3

[brave oriole]

told you

[shrewd sorrel]

i cant thank u enough man uve been a great help these days

[brave oriole]

it will help on tr and guild boss also

can be good with Rosa Cecilia Belinda twins

for wrizz at least

[shrewd sorrel]

oh okay thats great but i have a question if u loan a merc to someone can u still use it your self?

[brave oriole]

yeah

[shrewd sorrel]

owhh okay thats good

[brave oriole]

he's the most effective merc for you atm

[shrewd sorrel]

o great

[amber badge]

Could anybody halp?

[pale kettle]

Nemora
Saurus
Eiron
Tasi
Lorsan
@amber badge

[buoyant sequoia]

@pale kettle hey im new any ideas for my lineup? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/781121942606315541/image0.png

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions @buoyant sequoia there a lot help for new people

[buoyant sequoia]

ty

[brave oriole]

@amber badge I would rather use the elite lyca than solise

[amber badge]

Do you think Lyca would be a better replacement to nemora/lorsan? I’m trying the form the dude gave me @brave oriole

I can make lyca l+ also

[brave oriole]

lyca it's surely better to use in your team. she's rlly good tbh. you only need a mage front, to be able to pull both silvinas. so nemora/solise front and Saurus, then Backline tasi eironn lyca. and I would. definitely ascend lyca after eironn, it's a must

she's fine e+, get eironn m+ first

then work on lyca 👍

@pale kettle why would you use thoran with eironn? 😂. wasting merc

[pale kettle]

cause the assasine oneshot Saf If I dont use eiron

[brave oriole]

I have used for this,
lyca
tasi
rowan
eironn
Saurus

and thoraned the second, but you may look for a +30 thoran

[thin wind]

Any tips?

[brave oriole]

@thin wind well,
Lucius
lyca
rowan
daimon
Silas, may be okay

[thin wind]

mhh doesn't really work. I might have to just increase levels where i can

[brave oriole]

do you use dura's call on daimon? maybe move him up