Yeah that team seems great until it doest thats why i built thoran and will be getting arthur too
#lineup-help
split peak
summer cedar
safiya yes. results, not so much
hollow hatch
well I'm not sure how well Daimon will work at only +10, but he's a lot less RNG so try
Fereal
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Daimon
split peak
@summer cedar i similarly got nothing out of safiya
hollow hatch
Safiya is super RNG but can try her if Daimon doesn't work at +10
Lyca
Tasi
Eironn
Rowan
Safiya
haughty furnace
@hollow hatch are u typing in line up help and questions at the same time lol
hollow hatch
yeah
haughty furnace
Lol
summer cedar
ty. will let u know. did not expect M daimon to be playable lol
haughty furnace
I just came in to see if anyone needed help if I could help
summer cedar
took a few tries but ty @hollow hatch !
hollow hatch
glad to help!
rocky nimbus
Any suggestions for this? I have been trying for over an hour 😦 and no luck
summer cedar
who does tasi banish?
split peak
@rocky nimbus u need crowd control
rocky nimbus
I dont have enough dmg if I go CC, fight just goes on forever
split peak
U will never beat it without cc or support
rocky nimbus
banishes Daemon, but what i have in now isnt my line up 😛; Just my latest in a bunch of crazy shit ive been trying
split peak
No keep daimeon get rid of bel u already have shem
rocky nimbus
dont think im going to make it to end of misty lol.. not even 1/2 way there
summer cedar
abuse mercs. ask, return, ask again
split peak
Oh is that misty
rocky nimbus
yeah, need to find a friend with good mercs
yes. all my friends have basic characters that I already have for the most part
split peak
I am almost tempted to help u out with mercs and stuff
rocky nimbus
😮
split peak
Get on english channel 46 ill help
rocky nimbus
kk thanks a bunch
tawny seal
I need help
summer cedar
if that's a merc question, talene
summer cedar
mirael is really good until lvl 160
bleak hawk
I personally would run a team like
Rowan
Lucius
Mirael
Tasi
Rosa
dim bluff
So I'm struggling to progress what would be a good go to line up to use or work on for story progression im stuck at 10-10
bleak hawk
Lucius tasi for infinite stall, rowan to energy batt lucius and mirael, rosa to even further energy batt mirael
bleak hawk
So I'm struggling to progress what would be a good go to line up to use or work ...
Follow this
For team lineup
Daimon
Talene
Mirael
Tasi/Sav/Hogan
Saveas/Rosa/Tasi
dim bluff
Aight thanks bud
digital echo
Wukong
Lucretia
Belinda
Rowan
Brutus
floral geyser
Currently struggling and not sure if it's impossible currently or if I'm not thinking of it.
dim bluff
@bleak hawk what would you recommend for my res crystal I have 8 slots not counting daimon and talene
summer cedar
ezizh rarely does well as a frontliner and I don't think he's usable at E or E+ in campaign. probs replace with luci and move nara across from arden? your pool is odd im not quite sure what to suggest tbh
inner quiver
Yeah, I've gotten some criticism but it's the hand I've been dealt. Typically use Baden as a carry, Luci shields the clones, Estrilda buffs them, Nemora or Nemisu keeps them alive, then I'd just throw in Rosaline. Unfortunately I can't seem to keep Luci alive and leveling them right now is difficult due to lack of essence. I appreciate it though, I'll give that a shot and see how it goes. The closest I have been able to get still leaves shemiras ult and the tree to remove clones and smack the team around.
blazing sun
Stuck on this stage any suggestions?
twin finch
How do I beat this with my line up?
summer cedar
Any suggestion how to improve my chances?
mbe try nara pulling arden?
blazing sun
you can also try switching out nara for eironn youll get a faction boost and also hes pretty strong
cerulean lynx
hmm ok thanks for suggestions, i'll see if it works
Haha nope. Nevermind maybe I'll just need to afk. Thanks anyways
latent totem
summer cedar
id swap numisu and lyca for saveas and arden. but it's been a while since i've played around at that lvl
rocky nimbus
Anyone have a recommendation for this? Stage 19 Misty Valley.. I cant survive more than 10 seconds with any comp I’ve tried
crude valve
I need help I’m stuck
wooden oyster
Any suggestion on this? Been stucked on this stage for 1 or 2 days now, tag me thanks
pine marlin
I am stuck here, idk but maybe an investment issue?
covert marsh
Ok so im running Ainz and Albedo with Lucious just wondering would Arthur be a better pick over Lucious?
It would also give me the 3 stack bonus too just a thought?
Running Nemora and Lucretia with them too
raw rune
dimensionals don't have factional bonuses
hollow hatch
dimensionals do have faction bonus. Arthur will almost always be a better direct tank than Lucius, but Lucius can also shield his team which can be useful
cloud spruce
What are people picking for easy autumns? ^^ I dont have any of them yet except Lyca (if I pick her I can ascend her)
pale kettle
Flora is the most valuable out of all of them in the long run. Otherwise go with lyca or Gwyn
cloud spruce
ah okay thanks! 🙂
median birch
Tips? Ive been trying so many combinations without progress
pale kettle
@median birch Eironn, Rowan, Lyca, Ferael and....Lorsan?
median birch
In that order?
pale kettle
Yeah
median birch
Ye doesnt work ferael and rowan keeps getting instakilled by miss sniper
pale kettle
What artifact do you have on Eironn? I recommend Call to freeze more frequently @median birch
median birch
Duras eye atm
modern plank
frosty matrix
Hello, new player here. In about 24 hours, Silas will run out which means my Graveborn lineup will become obsolete pretty much.
Despite that, I've been fortunate enough to have opened a few very strong units and I was thinking of pivoting to a new composition that will consist of 3 Supports, 1 Tank and 1 hard Carry. I could also replace one of the Supports with a Warrior.
What I was thinking of using: Lucius as my Tank, Belinda+, Tasi, Nemora as my Supports and as my Carry I could either use Zaphrael or Mirael. The only substitute I could use instead of one of the Supports possibly would be Wu Kong because I know he's a good Carry early game. Or maybe I could replace the one Mage with him, I don't know.
Any feedback would be appreciated!
gilded jewel
@frosty matrix usually pre level 100 wukong just smashes everything
Any ideas on what comps to run here bois?
fading cipher
fading cipher
Any ideas on what comps to run here bois?
31-4
gilded jewel
Ty @fading cipher
pale kettle
Continue with eironn to 5 star or start on athalia in lab store?
summer walrus
Which ones should i use in my lineup? I know im very early game but i dont want to make critical mistakes
wooden oyster
Guys, pls help, I've been stucked on this forever and not sure what to do,....
rigid birch
@wooden oyster reset wukong and lucius to 100 and get mirael to 140
royal kayak
What sgould i do?
raw rune
dimensionals do have faction bonus. Arthur will almost always be a better direct...
so does each dimensional have different factions or do they all have all 4
slate flower
All
hasty trail
What team would be a good lineup for ainz? Don’t have the god combo yet
pale kettle
h e l p
forest cliff
Help please
raw spruce
Been Stuck on this one for a while the verdan destroys me
weary cobalt
for arena 3v3,need 3 good comps please
cyan solar
Help with this one please, used nara, lyca, fareal, rowan and saurusnon first one
muted stream
Any ideas? Tried shem front and athalia on nem to stop her charm but both didt work
pale kettle
What's the best lineup for this level?
cerulean hamlet
@muted stream
Tasi
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Nemora
RNG for Nemora to charm Arden to root his own team + Shem and Tasi ult should do it.
Alt Ferael over Tasi might work too depending on RNG
muted stream
Ok will give it a try
cerulean hamlet
@pale kettle At that level probably Shemira + some tank like Brutus (unconditional) + 3 supports like Arden/Tasi/Lyca (if you have them) or Rowan/Rosa/Someone should have good success, esp once you get Shem to 161
pale kettle
Thanks
cerulean hamlet
@cyan solar
Can you post the rest of your hero box?
muted stream
The charm doesnt go out fast enough for arden to cast his 2nd root, the 1st root is always on my team even when he is sucessfully charmed
cerulean hamlet
Hm, try giving nemora slightly better boots if possible? Enemy has no Lyca so with enough haste Nemora will charm before Arden root
muted stream
Nvm just got my rowan to mythic and he is fking sick
cerulean hamlet
Heh, guess that works too 👍
@wide gust
You don't have the greatest support selection currently but something like:
Arden/Ferael
- Brutus
Talene - Shemira
Rosaline
Could work if you can get Shem to survive long enough to ult
wide gust
i can try however im not sure if she has enough dmg to win this alone or maybe im worng idk
but ill try and let u know thanks 🙂
cerulean hamlet
With Rosaline she should be fine assuming she can ult, pushing her to lv140 will also help though she doesn't spike until 161
wide gust
working on it though i dont get too much dust just from the afk i guess and i dont have much since im in day 8 maybe
cerulean hamlet
Unless I completely forgot how early game works I don't think 132 -> 140 needs dust
spare falcon
Kinda stuck. Need advice.
wide gust
250k plus per lvl thought for sure it takes much more later on 🙂 and im just complaning
spare falcon
And yes I'm aware I did a dumb. Been working on fixing it.
cerulean hamlet
250k sounds like exp not dust, but yeah, I suppose that can be a bottleneck early too 😅
wide gust
yeah i dont have anywhere to get it from but the campine some from the lybrinth as well i guess and ofc the main the afk so it kinda sucks to wait all the time
cerulean hamlet
@spare falcon
- you should revert that L Daimon you have as L duplicates of A tier heroes doesn't do anything.
- For that stage, you probably want something like:
Flora (If you insist on using her)
- Lucius
Rowan - Daimon
Silas
Ideally you should also raise some more supports like Arden and probably read the pinned messages in #classic-questions and stop making A tier heroes L unless you can take them to L+
spare falcon
The L copy just to get my L+ to Mythic eventually. Flora is negotiable
cerulean hamlet
Uh, you'd want a fodder L+ for that
You're losing copies you could use to bring him to A with that as L+ to M and to M+ only need a L+ (any) of that faction
spare falcon
No I take my current L+, and feed the L that will eventually be an L+ to make Mythic
fallen flame
@cerulean hamlet wait you can revert ascensions?
cerulean hamlet
Yes, you do not need a L+ Daimon for that, any L+ GB will work and you don't need to lose Daimon copies by using a fodder L+
primal jolt
as I said. if it's a tier and 2 of the same hero at L or higehr ..
cerulean hamlet
@fallen flame Yes, but only if you have 2 or more of that hero a L or higher ascension
fallen flame
oh, so if I just have one L Belinda I can’t unascend them?
primal jolt
no. that's why we mentioned so many times "don't ascend to L"
spare falcon
I mean I do need an L+ to ascend to M, but I also need to keep my fodders to try and fix my crystal for now.
wide gust
@cerulean hamlet well im getting beatten even worrse now idk saveas just nukes everything
cerulean hamlet
@wide gust Mh, I guess Brutus might not be that great that early, ideally some tank that can survive long enough to buy Shemira time to ult is what you need, try some different variations of that, but basically the core is Shemira + Rosaline
spare falcon
Also Estrilda, Hogan, and Mirael are just shredding me
wide gust
isnt it better to get daimon in there for the dmg? and ill try diffrent things
spare falcon
This might be a thing where I'm just stuck until I can get my L+ fodders and fix my crystal for the better levels. Cuz then I'll be 160 and not 140.
cerulean hamlet
I mean I do need an L+ to ascend to M, but I also need to keep my fodders to try...
You do get more fodder if you reset that Daimon since the fodder you used on him will be returned 🤔
As for them shredding you, that's where you probably want to switch out Flora for Arden for his roots, I guess Tasi to a lesser extent might work too
spare falcon
Yeah currently trying to build up the Arden
Also where do you revert the ascension?
rigid birch
rickety cart --> revert hero
cerulean hamlet
isnt it better to get daimon in there for the dmg? and ill try diffrent things
Daimon might help, but typically early a strong solo-carry works best, maybe Talene doesn't provide enough healing though so the top three are a bit flexible to work with
wide gust
hmm i see as soon as i get enough food i would get daimon to L+ and it will work for sure
but as of now i just dont have enough
cerulean hamlet
If you can get Daimon to L+ that will be better than Shemira yes, but yeah, with what you currently have your best bet is for CC and Shemira + Rosa
wide gust
ok i will try some few teams but a quick question if i get him (daimon) to L+ should i reset shamira and focus on him?
spare falcon
That ended up giving me two E+ fodders but still need a ton more to do anything impactful.
cerulean hamlet
ok i will try some few teams but a quick question if i get him (daimon) to L+ sh...
Probably, unless you're going to focus Shemira from lab store, 1 overleveled carry is better than 5 heroes stuck at the same level
wide gust
ofc that much i know thats why im still focusing on shemira however i have no more copies of her and if i allready bough her from the lab store can i buy her again?
cerulean hamlet
Only once lab store resets which is once a month
cerulean hamlet
Only if you plan to buy her and build her as your main carry, but given that you'll have a L+ Daimon soon you may want to focus your attention otherwhere as Daimon is a pretty solid carry too and scales better into late
wide gust
thought so but for now untill i get the food from summons i shall keep on lvling shemira right?
cerulean hamlet
That ended up giving me two E+ fodders but still need a ton more to do anything ...
Yeah, early game will be a grind, but resetting that Daimon will be more efficient in the long run.
If you want to try push through that stage as is though, see if you can find a configuration that lets Daimon live while Lucius manages to ult at least once if you want to try before you manage to build up the rest of your heroes
cerulean hamlet
thought so but for now untill i get the food from summons i shall keep on lvling...
Yeah, that's probably fine
wide gust
thanks alot m8
spare falcon
Yeah, early game will be a grind, but resetting that Daimon will be more efficie...
This has been a majority reason I made an alt acc. It's going far more smoothly than my main here and even has a couple of Celestials from tavern pulls. But I'm not giving up on this acc since it's still very fixable even if it's taking forever.
As for this stage I've found no comp that let's Lucius live long enough to do anything. As I've said Hogan, Estrilda, and Mirael are just shredding right through anything I throw at them.
raw spruce
Been stuck here for a while the vampire guy destroys me.
spare falcon
If you think Vedan is wrecking you now, then wait until you're in chapter 12 where there's a ton of Ascended tier Vedan. As for that you need more levels to actually stand a chance.
rigid birch
nara works good on vedan, as long as he is backline, obviously tasi and arden dont work bc of the mage, also send your heroes pl
raw spruce
send the rest of them your saying? @rigid birch
rigid birch
yup
rigid birch
im guessing nara on vedan + shemira rosa Nemora
with maybe tasi as a filler
raw spruce
alright I will give that a try
rocky nimbus
Any recommendations for this stage of misty valley? Been stuck here for a while and have tried every combination I can think of 😦
rigid birch
yeah that stage is annoying, id say wait till b4 the misty ends by 1 day, you will have levelled by then and the enemy levels will be easier
rocky nimbus
Alright, I hope thatll be enough.. I dont even last 10 seconds
marsh nymph
Help pls
weak island
Ideas? I'm literally metaphorically pulling my hair out
muted mulch
Is there a lineup that can get me 45 million damage here?
weak island
My best attempt has been with this comp, but it's very RNG based and the damn Saveas always survives
odd flame
Got 10 faction scroll. Which 1 should i go?
pale kettle
any help?
keen crescent
any help?
- tasi 2. rowan, 3 lyca, 4. eironn, 5. silas. Also get Rowan's SI to +30 asap
thin wind
any tips?
keen crescent
Got 10 faction scroll. Which 1 should i go?
Lightbearers for Rowan or Graveborn for carry heroes
@thin wind 1. tasi, 2. daimon 3. lyca, 4. rowan, 5. Arden,
thin wind
it's closer, but still doesn't really cut it. I guess i'll keep that formation and just level them up. Would there be a specific hero that help counter that lineup?
warm swan
@muted mulch How is your sus tree? Try with Eironn, Rowan, Cecelia, Drez, Lyca
thin wind
oh wait, nvm. Sylas in lyca out worked out. Thanks for the help 🙂
frigid eagle
Any advice for mauler tower? Currently running safiya skerg skriath brutus numisu but i cant even seem to clear +30. Other factions are at f240+ while maulers are stuck at f210
Numisu is at M, everyone else is ascended. Only other guy i have kinda built is Anoki at M
brave oriole
it's normal to stay behind with your maulers. but what can I say it's that vurk does a great job there. and skreg, he usualy. works. good with dura's call
polar sparrow
Any ideas I just can't beat it no matter who I choose?
weak island
Ideas? My best attempt is Mirael and Lucius dying as they finish off Silvina, while the damn Saveas is still alive, and even then that's rare
pale kettle
@lucid tiger too many legendaries. Focus on 5 heroes as best you can
lucid tiger
Which would you recommend?
primal jolt
read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
odd tundra
peak magnet
Can anybody help me with 31-40?
vale star
Could use some help here. I'm stuck at 7-36 and don't know if I should reset some heroes and boost Wukong, and what comp should I be using. Thank you!
I feel like my levels are all over the place 😅
grave nova
Oops, wrong area
thin wind
@vale star reset that whole of lvl 40s
focus all your levels on 5 you can bring higher, pump shemira up all the way
onyx mason
So, keeping Saveas leveled, who should I replace him with so I have an actual frontline? The wilder tank with the giant hammer? Wukong?
pale kettle
@onyx mason Saveas actually makes a great dps/tank hybrid.
onyx mason
So should I move him to frontline?
rare bay
@pale kettle please help me
onyx mason
Well, he lasted longer than Arden did. I upgraded all his items but his boots to max
pale kettle
@rare bay you've built too many legend units. Some of them arent good early game too, like Belinda. Right now, you should totally revamp your team. Build fodder heroes to L+ like Arden, Saveas, Mirael bc they're heroes built for early game progression.
twilit wharf
When you ask questions please be more specific and give us more pictures
rare bay
So what team should I build
pale kettle
@onyx mason oh, don't upgrade any gears until you can acquire Mythic gears. Just ascend Saveas to increase durability.
twilit wharf
@rare bay could you show us what team you were using before?
onyx mason
So, my team is fine, I just need to afk for like 2 weeks and summon fodder for days, and keep leveling who I am
pale kettle
@rare bay replace Silas with Rowan and see if it works.
rare bay
Tried that
twilit wharf
My suggestion is to use Gwyneth instead of estrilda
rare bay
Estrilda is L and gwenith is purple
twilit wharf
Something similar to this using Rowan instead of tasi
onyx mason
Why?
twilit wharf
You don’t need mythica
solid sandal
Misty valley stage 19
twilit wharf
@rare bay Try using that set up also swap estrildas gear to Gwyneth and ankhiras to belindas
rare bay
Ok
onyx mason
Oh @twilit wharf that was for Kyle not me?
twilit wharf
@onyx mason yeah, what do you need tho?
ivory cobalt
stuck on this, should i just be waiting for my afk rewards and leveling up?
drifting atlas
help, vedan + brutus is so damn annoying + too much dps
twilit wharf
@ivory cobalt have you tried using Ainz?
ivory cobalt
yeah he usually dies before getting his ability off
twilit wharf
@drifting atlas please send a picture of your hero’s
drifting atlas
here are the heroes is my bag, i have empty slots in the crystal too
twilit wharf
@drifting atlas you can get Belinda to mythic
drifting atlas
i don't rly want to build her tho, waiting for a 3rd daimon, i can get 1 more from the chest
onyx mason
@twilit wharf posted my pics a bit back, just wanna make sure that’s the team@I should be using
lucid tiger
Can someone help me I can't get past this
normal silo
omg we're in about the same place! honestly what helps for me when i can't get past stuff is just switching units out, moving their positions, etc and seeing what works
unkempt field
vestal dock
Just copy my line up expect for like 1 hero
twilit wharf
@onyx mason try using wu Kong in ardens spot and put arden in saveases spot
onyx mason
@twilit wharf and keeping Saveas out for a bit?
twilit wharf
@civic sphinx Put Lucius in front with Brutus and move Belinda behind him, also use Silas
normal silo
i really like elijah&lailah's ult so i recommend them as well
vestal dock
@civic sphinx remove hogan and use nemora instead
normal silo
i think with that too you'd have 3 lightbearer so you'd get the bonus as well
twilit wharf
@civic sphinx ^^^^, @onyx mason that might work but I would recommend moving them around a bit if it doesn’t work the first time
civic sphinx
Lucius lasts about 2 seconds, Saveas straight up deletes whoever stands top-front :/
Hmm, Brutus in that slot buys time. Silas is doing work, I'll fiddle with it some
normal silo
try switching lucius to bottom-front instead?
vestal dock
Just afk and hope you get better tanks 👀
twilit wharf
It’s gonna take some moving people around, I also recommend moving gear around for the extra boost in attack power
vestal dock
Also focus on shemira with labyrinth store
normal silo
^, moving people around works a lot of the time
vestal dock
Way better dps than what you have now
She can carry through mid game with silence and self heals
civic sphinx
vestal dock
I mean you can still cheese through that chapter with certain set ups xd
civic sphinx
Ty folks
normal silo
nice!!!
civic sphinx
Silus MVP for sure
flat pendant
Someone have 31-60 replay without thoran ?
vestal dock
👀 I just use him to die against high damage heros to make time for my support and healer and dps to ult
forest stream
How stuck for a week here. Can you guys help me? Thanks
drifting atlas
@forest stream who do tasi/fawkes use their "lock" on?
pale kettle
Oh wait, nvm, I see now. Lol
drifting atlas
lol
forest stream
<@!744963721369223312> who do tasi/fawkes use their "lock" on?
Mirael but I get super wiped out once she's out
random bay
Any ideas?
drifting atlas
@forest stream you should check out the pinned guides in #classic-questions , building ascended tier heroes this early is not wise, unless you whale
forest stream
<@!744963721369223312> you should check out the pinned guides in <#5655787517155...
Aww I was advised to build them when I was stuck a few levels back 😔
pale kettle
@forest stream whoever told you that, don't listen to them anymore. Lol
drifting atlas
@forest stream i think you can try daimon lucius tasi/fawkes rowan +1, if you have rosa, put her in, otherwise, try switching around the last spot
forest stream
All my heroes were elite+ when I started chapter 11
drifting atlas
but i doubt your daimon can burst mirael fast enough before she ult, you might need 2 dmg dealer here
pale kettle
@chilly nest try Belinda, Lucius, Nemora, Rowan and Lyca in that order.
@forest stream you should build Arden. You can take him straight to L+ right now. His cc is the best in early game.
vivid harbor
Any advice is welcomed :)
chilly nest
Oo it worked thanks! 🙌🏻
pale kettle
@chilly nest 
@vivid harbor do you have enough resources to take Arden to 141+? He gets to unlock triple entanglement which is miles better for you.
vivid harbor
Currently gated by exp :/. I was aware of his ability, but yea... the lack of hero exp is hurting me. That ability would help me out a bunch as it would create a long enough stall for mirael to ult
pale kettle
@vivid harbor try Nemora at where Lucius is and see if you can charm Golus or Ankhira
brave oriole
@vivid harbor try hard to get rowan copies, you should have one elite by now
vivid harbor
I'll try nemora out, ty! @brave oriole yea, my rng with Rowan has been terrible. I just got my 2nd copy of him yesterday, which raised him to elite+
wary mica
Can't get past 11-16
brave oriole
@vivid harbor then use him, make him elite , or, make Lucius elite also and rosaline after. nvm if you don't have copies for l+yet, you will get, and you will. work. on them anyway @vivid harbor. I'm just worried that you don't have any carry, Belinda, not rlly worth to ascend in my opinion, waste of fodders, it's better to ascend rowan first Lucius and rosaline, you would need a shemira as Carry until chap 27 or more
vivid harbor
@pale kettle nemoras charm ability is inconsistent, but the one time it did manage to land, it led ankhira to golus who was attacking my center. Which led to my core being wiped out eventually
@brave oriole I appreciate the concern, as its a concern we both share. I'm kinda unsure of who to make my next carry due to the lack of copies I have for other carry heroes
pale kettle
Last resort seems to be Arden to lvl 141
brave oriole
@vivid harbor just for now, get l Lucius and rowan, and use rowan in your formation, left or right of mirael
vivid harbor
I usually place Rowan in the back middle or frontline, but will do (regarding implementing him into my lineup). I'll just wait for hero exp, ig 🥺
@wary mica uh, why is your Rosa the one that is overleveled? Usually, it's your carry hero that should be the one that exceeds your team by 20-40 levels
vivid harbor
Idk then, I've been advised that you always want to overlevel your carry by 20-40 compared to the rest of your team.
wary mica
I had what I needed to get her to L+. I don't have any E+ for the other's yet, but almost able to get an E+ Belinda to get her to L+
Don't have any Lucius drops yet
tired copper
@wary mica can you post your hero screen?
wary mica
peak magnet
Can anybody please help me with 31-44?
pale kettle
@peak magnet sure. Shoot
tired copper
@wary mica are you able to grab rare heroes at all? 1 more copy of Saveas lets you get him to L+, then you can reset Rosa+Belinda and use team Saveas (160 or as close to it), Brutus 120 Lucius 120 Fawkes 120 Belinda 120
inner quiver
Update on my progress that was posted yesterday. This is the closest I've gotten so far.
sullen gulch
Im in chapter 18, should i mythic lucius or rowan first? For now i can maybe +10 sig item, possibly +20 after event
tired copper
@wary mica actually, you can also get an L+ Ira - then you can level your lowest to 121
There is a massive power spike at 101, 121, 141, 161, etc
wary mica
Is Belinda not very useful for now? I thought she was good long-term
tired copper
She can't level high enough. You need 141+ at this point.
peak magnet
@pale kettle can i just dm you? I cant post multistages here
pale kettle
@peak magnet yeah, you can do that
peak magnet
Done
tired copper
Resetting is only 20 diamonds, you can always change back later.
wary mica
@tired copper I'm very close to getting her to L+
tired copper
Well, you asked for help. The reason you're having trouble is that your resources are allocated inefficiently.
Which is entirely fixable.
wary mica
But by resetting wouldn't I need to get more Belinda drops again? I've been struggling to get Belinda drops
tired copper
No, resetting is just using the rickety cart to reset their level. It doesn't do anything permanent.
You also don't lose anything by doing it other than 20 diamonds.
supple hemlock
Ello everyone, I'm stuck at 10-28 because I don't have enough damage, timer runs out with my whole comp still alive. I'm kinda new and just figured out you're not supposed to ascend ascended tier heroes but it was too late, can anyone maybe point me in the right direction in terms of formation and what to actually ascend at this point
tired copper
@wary mica Ah - sorry, looks like I didn't check your heroes carefully enough. Let me have another look and see what you can do.
wary mica
Got a Saveas drop
inner quiver
Saveas is good
wary mica
@tired copper oh?
tired copper
Yeah, hold off for a moment.
wary mica
ok
pale kettle
@supple hemlock Ascend Arden. For early game, he is very powerful, specially at lvl 141+
If you want more damage, make Saveas or Mirael L+
supple hemlock
Shame i already used all the arden copies to get Tasi to L+, and miraels on lucius. Is it okay to use an epic+ Safiya to ascrnd Savaes
supple hemlock
Ahh kinda stuck then unless i get more copies of the legendary tiers. Should you be using labyrinth tokens to buy copies of legendary heroes
pale kettle
@supple hemlock nah, use lab coins to buy Ascended tier heroes. Fodder heroes are easy to get. Just be patient
supple hemlock
Alrighty, thanks for the help 😄
tired copper
@wary mica OK, looks like you don't have enough to get Saveas to L+ right away. He's still the best option in the short term, but you'll need enough heroes to get another E+ copy of him. At first I misread some of your rare heroes as R+.
For the meantime, what you could try is using Ira. So, like this:
Ascend Ira using Arden and Ira, then ascend her to L+ using your final Ira.
Ascend Saveas to L using your two Ankiras.
Ascend Silvina to L+ using 2x Niru & Silvina.
Reset Rosaline and Belinda to lvl 1. Then relevel them to 121.
Level Saveas and Silvina to 121.
Level Ira to 160.
On your crystal should be 5 Legendary or higher heroes - so their max levels are all 140 or above.
Your team will be Belinda, Rosa, Lucius, Ira, and either Hogan or Brutus. You can also try swapping in Fawkes for Rosa or Belinda for some fights where he may be better. Rowan may also be helpful to use sometimes. You'll have to add Fawkes and Rowan to Crystal as well.
dire dock
help please
rigid birch
- Hogan
- Shemira
- Arden
- Nara
- Rowan
@dire dock
mighty wave
rigid birch
@mighty wave
I did it long ago, with:
- Rowan
- Lyca
- Safiya
- Eironn
- Fawkes (you can do tasi bc mine was weak at that time)
alooottt of retries thoe
mighty wave
what relics for each?
rigid birch
i dont remember, it was something like rowan call, lyca grace, safiya blade, eironn eye and fawkes doesnt matter
mighty wave
my team is just getting insta wiped
dire dock
1. Hogan
2. Shemira
3. Arden
4. Nara
5. Rowan
<@!321403440435822593>
thanks ill try that
rigid birch
@mighty wave Ill try to look back to the formation and see, this was probably the one though
mighty wave
i think i just need more lvls
rigid birch
i did it at 299, this stage took alot of retries, you need eironn to ult first, maybe put chalice on rowan and call on eironn and safiya
dire dock
@rigid birch nara dies so fast so she cant kill with her alt, any ideas on how to fix this? i might just need better gear
rigid birch
you dont need nara to kill with her ult, you need her to cc ira so shemira doesnt melt
dire dock
ah but hogan still melts
rigid birch
maybe more lv on shemira
dire dock
i got closer with silas healing hogan instead of arden but still ye, more levels on shemira prob
i got it, thanks
wary mica
@tired copper
narrow raptor
tired copper
@wary mica Great. That's a good baseline, because to switch to Saveas you'll only have to reset Ira 🙂
It's a good idea to use Legendary tier heroes (the ones that start as rare) for your crystal at the start so that you don't get walled by level cap. Then try to focus ascending one carry hero.
Have a look at this cheat sheet for a quick look at your options for 160+: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/763009135028731904/unknown-1.png
wary mica
Ok, well since I'm probably less than a week from an L+ Belinda, I'll choose her as my carry. Her AoE ultimate is quite powerful.
Has flipped the battle a number of times
forest stream
<@!744963721369223312> i think you can try daimon lucius tasi/fawkes rowan +1, i...
This one worked until the end. Thank you so much. Finally able to move on to the next chapter!
tired copper
For 160+ you do need Mythic, but yeah. You'll need to get another lightbearers L+ hero to use as fodder for her - Hogan, Mirael, Morvus, Angelo
wary mica
Thanks @tired copper
tired copper
But it's a while away since you need crystal level to be 140 to level up.
No worries 🙂 Did you manage to pass the stage?
tired copper
Level up Daimon 🙂
young spruce
Dont have the dust need to push more
tired copper
then wait
young spruce
Uggghhhhhh
tired copper
Can you reset Belinda for enough dust?
just level her to 120
bleak bridge
Guys some help would be much appreciated here! Should I replace shemira or Belinda with saveas? Any other changes I should make now after 160?
Just reached ch16
Anyone? 😁
cyan solar
Help with this one, my nara is weak and i don't have arthur/gwyn si high enough
plush merlin
What to do?
dire dock
help please
dire dock
Try Shem,Hogan,Cecilia,Rowan,Wukong
ok thanks
cyan solar
@xyc move eirron one up and other wilder up into middle
bleak bridge
@cyan solar any tips for me o wise one?
lucid scroll
Can I get some help friends
eager token
what should i after getting belinda to 120 ?
marsh nymph
Help pls
young spruce
Can you reset Belinda for enough dust?
just level her to 120
Still not enough neec 2k dust more
sand breach
Can anyone help me?
cyan solar
@spare lava always try multiple times, depends so hard on rng sometimes. If you can't seem to make it on your like 10th try then you're doing something wrong early game wise
tired copper
anyone got any ideas?
cyan solar
@bleak bridge lucius up, eiiron where he was. If you have any other wilder, instead of rowan
@tired copper Swap estrilda and Belinda
rare bay
Need help, anyone please
tired copper
@cyan solar Thanks, I think my heroes are just too weak. I'll try again after reset
terse lintel
Looking so an idea on my alt account to get the 45 mil damage on AE boss
Currently have cleric 5.5, sorcery 5.0 and sus 5.1
hollow hatch
@terse lintel try
Gwyneth
Eironn
Rowan
Tidus
Lyca
terse lintel
No eironn
terse lintel
I have but without eironn not sure who to place
hollow hatch
Sorry missed that xD try thane instead
rare bay
How have u got purples over 140
wind fox
Could use some help
hollow hatch
Resonating crystal
hollow hatch
@rare bay you have a lot of heroes stuck at legendary, try giving this guide a read, it should help you progress further
As for the lineup, I’m not sure there’s too much you can improve, just need levels
rare bay
Ok thanks
versed gale
Can anyone help with 100mil? I've got 5.6 cele, 5.2 tank, 5 sust
I used rowan in spot 1 and max I got is 94 mil
Are there any good cele team comps without twins?
summer cedar
I used rowan in spot 1 and max I got is 94 mil
ask this in #761364531732807690 you'll probably get better responses, or at least more responses. they're smarter than i am at that mode
versed gale
alright
sand breach
Anyone have tips to beat this lvl?
scarlet seal
@sand breach u have several options, switch silas/talene with lyca or athalia, athalia to counter arden
pale kettle
Try Talene, Rowan, Lyca, Eironn and Safiya in that order. @pale kettle if that doesn't work, swap Talene for Ezizh for energy regen. (Oh sorry, not Talene. Safiya)
@vivid harbor Maybe try Lucius, Brutus, Fawkes, Mirael and Rosa in that order
Idk if you have Duras call. Probably not, but if you do, give it to Mirael and Rosa
vivid harbor
That was my previous lineup, but I wanted to try out ainz, lol. But yea, brutus and Isabella always take out mirael/rosa combo, as both of them are usually the last two standing
Dura's call is on rosa (I only have one).
pale kettle
Did you give Mirael Conviction @vivid harbor ?
vivid harbor
I don't have conviction, but I just beat the stage using the line up you suggested, so thanks.
dire dock
help please
woeful agate
Suggestions to counter Vedan+Thane combo?
raw rune
how can i beat estrilda
pearl zinc
Anyone have mauler 239
pale kettle
@dire dock Try Hogan, Wu Kong, Cecilia, Rowan and Shemira in that order
dire dock
ok thanks, ill try it out
pale kettle
@raw rune her knock back counts as cc, so Wu Kong can use his substitution jutsu to get out of the way.
raw rune
i tried that but he just dies
pale kettle
Oh, he must not have it unlocked then. 🤷♀️
raw rune
nah he does, she's just too strong
ok it worked slightly better this time actually, he did do the clone, but he still died p quickly
dire dock
@pale kettle as i expected, wu kong dies super fast
hmm i might be stuck until i level up shemira more
pale kettle
Oh, I know he dies fast. I only put him there for a higher faction bonus. But yeah, might have to afk for a bit. @dire dock
@woeful agate full roster?
dire dock
ok thanks anyways, i got pretty close thou
raw rune
this works ok but nowhere near perfect
pale kettle
@raw rune might have to make Mirael L+ then
pale kettle
raw rune
lucius needed to ult at right time i think
tired copper
@raw rune be ready for a lot of retrying 🙂 I retried 7-36 and 7-40 somewhere around 50-100 times
Using Belinda as carry = lots of RNG for crits
pale kettle
@woeful agate Try Fawkes and Ferael instead of Talene and Tasi. If Talene gets killed bc her ascension is too low, Vedan gains energy faster and that might be a problem. I'm betting on Ferael stunlocking at least 3 enemies as much as possible, especially the enemy Ferael and Fawkes could cleanse as well as both of their high dodge points.
Oh and instead of Lucius, try Rosa instead. @woeful agate
woeful agate
Who would front line with Tasi then?
Ah. So tasi, Rosa, Ferael, Fawke and Shem? Or no Shem, keep Rowan
pale kettle
You can do Fawkes frontline with his high dodge, or Rosa with her reduce damage as she follows Shemira @woeful agate
Id put Fawkes bc of higher ascension
woeful agate
My Fawke can’t dodge anything it seems. Lol
raw rune
I'm already at 12-1 on main @tired copper I've retried way too many times on that and failed its way too hard
pale kettle
Give him Dura's Grace?
woeful agate
I keep forgetting that is an artifact. Lol
tired copper
Ah, yeah I also restarted. My first account is at I think 13 something
Haven't checked it in a while
brave oriole
never used fawkes much, but this theory applies after 240
woeful agate
This’ll be an interesting comp. haven’t dropped talene for a comp in the last 6 chapters
raw rune
i didn't restart, just hit a huge af wall there, since it's just before mythic gear unlock, so it's really hard
i am constantly retrying and levelling up
remote fox
Anyone mind helping me out?
tired copper
Hm, I don't have any Mythics and made it to 13-21 without much issue
raw rune
this 2nd one is on test server, i mean mythic gear not mythic tier
pale kettle
@woeful agate so team would be Fawkes, Ferael, Shemira, Rowan and Rosa
tired copper
yes, no mythic gear. my carry (belinda) is mythic though.
pale kettle
If you're not confident, Rowan can be frontline
torpid laurel
Is this a good lineup?
raw rune
oh ok, saving for dimensionals i assume?
was just saying that this is a huge wall because of that though, maybe a merc will help me defeat it
tired copper
I will say, it is nice having the dispatch all bounties button
I consider my new account to be my "main" - I was super inefficient with this one. Bought all the blue heroes in Lab store etc, didn't read any guides.
raw rune
oh ok fair enough
woeful agate
@pale kettle
Couldn’t get it to work no matter where I placed them. I gave them the best gear I got too
tired copper
@raw rune Want to add me ingame? ID 113224399
pale kettle
Drop Tasi, get Rowan. @woeful agate that's what I was trying to tell you. Lol
@woeful agate you lose faction bonus if Tasi's there
raw rune
geez talene and twins already how @tired copper
tired copper
pure luck 😄 from the tavern
raw rune
dang
woeful agate
Oh rip. Lemme try that lol @pale kettle where should I place them btw?
tired copper
oh you have Mehira though
raw rune
yeah i got her really early
vivid harbor
is mehira any good at E+? I need 1 more copy and I can ascend her to L
raw rune
but none of the op celestials
tired copper
Yeah my team is funny right now - Talene, Twins, Rowan, Belinda, Estrilda
a lot of heal
solid sandal
Misty valley ch 19
vivid harbor
ah, then I'll try her out once I get one more copy. Which will be enough to ascend her to L
tired copper
Yep, it's great for staging and adventures. Not the best in pvp - that would be Daimon
pale kettle
@woeful agate however you want, but make sure at least Ferael and Shemira are within Rowan's circle of effect to gain energy and healing. If the situation calls for it, put Rowan frontline if you have to. (I have to head out, but good luck)
raw rune
is it worth ascending her to l? i guess it is since you can only use her to ascend instead of using fodder
i still only have e daimon really sad
vivid harbor
Yea, I mean you don't need fodder for celepogeans, so might as well
woeful agate
Thank you @pale kettle
vivid harbor
yea, she's the only celepogean i've managed to pull consistently.
raw rune
I've gotten no doubles
vivid harbor
Now that I think about it, the only two celepogeans i've summoned are Mehira & Wukong. I would love a talene or twins
tired copper
Talene + Twins + Rowan is an insane combo, once I get them leveled up it will be very strong
vivid harbor
extremely strong*
torpid laurel
Hey guys can I ask you something?
tired copper
Nope, sorry.
😄
torpid laurel
Alright.
vivid harbor
go ahead :pppp
raw rune
athalia, mehira have helped the other 2 have done nothing
twin finch
Anyone here I can add to visit their oak inn?
summer cedar
Anyone here I can add to visit their oak inn?
try #mercenary
torpid laurel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/779480797840408616/Screenshot_20201120-234535_AFK_Arena.jpgWell Basically I want to know if my lineup is good.
vivid harbor
link is broken, at least for me
tired copper
I find Talene Estrilda Oden Rowan Belinda also insane just due to how the battles play out - Oden + Estrilda group up 4 heroes stunned while Talene + Belinda aoe them
raw rune
you need to edit it so that the Well is spaced @torpid laurel
torpid laurel
@vivid harbor I already posted this picture once through my phone and so I copied it through my pc and the link broke, it's broken for me too.
@raw rune So what am I supposed to do exactly? Sorry, not really familiar with that.
vivid harbor
you have one too many tanks, especially for that lineup imo. You need another support
tired copper
What I do is take a screenshot on phone, then go to gallery & share -> Discord -> lineup-help, type your message
raw rune
right click (or hold press on mobile) then put your cursor in between jpg and Well and do space and then save it
vivid harbor
send a pic of your hero box plz @torpid laurel
vivid harbor
@torpid laurel Put rosa in the res. crystal, and add her to your line up. You could try a line up Frontline: Gorvo & Wukong/Rosa, and Backline: Wukong/Rosa, Tasi, and nemora
vivid harbor
how many coins do you need to unlock another slot?
torpid laurel
@vivid harbor I already placed her in the resonating crystal and I have enough of those orange thingies for 1 more.
vivid harbor
buy it cuz u don't use those coins for anything else
torpid laurel
@vivid harbor Got it and thanks in advance.
vivid harbor
np, i'd make sure you have daimon on the WL. Mainly because post-100, you want to build/work on him
torpid laurel
@vivid harbor WL?
vivid harbor
wishlist
tall maple
any idea on how to take down this formation? and in general what i should be doing for mauler tower
also wrath, wl=wishlist
torpid laurel
@vivid harbor Alright well I updated my lineup as you said so but when should I start using Diamon?
@tall maple Thanks.
tall maple
you can use daimon basically immediately
he doesn't require much investment, but he's even better with investment
torpid laurel
Who should I replace him with though? Right now I have gorvo and wukong in the front, rosa tasi and nemora in the back.
vivid harbor
This thing, which is found in the tavern. Post-100 tbh, I mean wukong is a good carry pre-100, but you'll want a diff. carry by then
tall maple
gorvo isn't that strong early game, where are you in the game? level wise
tired copper
Gorvo is pretty bad for ch 5-7
torpid laurel
@tall maple Apparently 6-24.
tall maple
nemora is strong early game, tasi not so much
vivid harbor
I suggested him for the fac bonus, but you could switch out gorvo w/ daimon
torpid laurel
This is my wishlist, I followed the guide.
tall maple
you're better off with arden
but tasi gets way better while arden is capped at level 160
maybe change ulmus to pippa? and gorvo to lyca
vivid harbor
ya, but run tasi until you can get arden to E/E+. You'll eventually build him to L+ to raise your level cap, and can use him as fodder to ascend a hero to mythic later on
torpid laurel
I don't understand these short phrases such as E/E+, sorry XD
@tall maple Will do.
vivid harbor
E = Elite, E+ = Elite+, etc.
torpid laurel
Ah makes sense.
tall maple
l=legendary
m=mythic
a=ascended
torpid laurel
I'm pretty confused though because both of you guys are telling me to do 2 different things to my lineup.
tall maple
daimon is a good early game carry iirc
tired copper
@prime matrix, that's not what the guide says. one sec:
tall maple
as are saveas and mirael
torpid laurel
Alright I'm switching him with Gorvo. @tall maple
tall maple
you want to get lyca to mythic asap though, so put her on your wishlist
vivid harbor
if you can get arden to E/E+, then i'd run him over tasi. I only suggested gorvo cuz of the fac. bonus, but I have no experience w/ him, and judging from the other's stance, he's replaceable.
tall maple
you want to have at least 4 copies of lyca so you can get her to mythic
tired copper
tall maple
ulmus is ok, gorvo is ok, but they are not as important as the other three on your wishlist, and lyca is more important than either of them
torpid laurel
@tall maple Alright I'll switch Gorvo with Lyca in the WL.
tired copper
@torpid laurel after restarting the game a few times, that is the most up to date guide that I'd trust.
tall maple
i think gorvo is considered better than ulmus? i haven't used either though so i can't say
summer cedar
gorvo is better according to online tier lists. i dont use them either tho
tall maple
tier lists are often a hit or miss i find
tired copper
I'd say that's considering mainly late game though
Personally I find Ulmus much more useful, Gorvo just jumps in and dies.
torpid laurel
@tall maple @vivid harbor Well thanks for the help but I'm still gonna have to ask a decent amount of questions in the future since a lot of people keep telling me different things.
tall maple
it's ok! questions are good
summer cedar
all roads lead to late game tho don't they?
tall maple
also the only amendment id make to that guide is consider getting cecilia to elite+instead of just elite so you can use her in abyssal
i wish i got her to elite+ before i got all my skriath copies for ascended
summer cedar
gorvo has hella synergy w daimon. ulmus is just ulmus
torpid laurel
Alright this is what I updated
tall maple
she's very good for abyssal and worth trying to get for abyssal expedition
but you have plenty of time before the next one
tired copper
Yeah, I agree that Gorvo is the one I'd actually keep on my wishlist. It's just that he's not very useful immediately most of the time.
tall maple
drop oscar from your wishlist and replace with rowan
vivid harbor
^^
torpid laurel
Got it.
summer cedar
hold up, is your saurus done yet? cuz saurus>>>>ulmus
tall maple
rowan is the most important hero in the game, no question
vivid harbor
that we can agree on
tired copper
^
tall maple
he's also easily attainable, and is your first hero you should get to 30+ on signature items when you get those
you can literally throw him on any team
torpid laurel
tired copper
I also agree with the guide about no Lucius - IMO he's a trap
sucks up investment that can be better used on other things
vivid harbor
idk about easily, it depends on rng pre-select summons
tall maple
lucius is good early game but i have bad luck and he just keeps coming even when he's not on my wishlist :/
vivid harbor
if only i had that problem right now :/. My lucius is stuck on E+
tall maple
he's good in factional tower
tired copper
Yeah, but you don't need him early game, so getting copies of him from wishlist is a waste
vivid harbor
well, I kinda need him for my team comp. :c. Not everyone has a talene or twins
tall maple
say hi to my 10 extra lucius that i did not ask for
tired copper
@vivid harbor yeah that's what I mean, it's like once you start going Lucius you can't stop 😛
vivid harbor
True
tall maple
he doesn't need ascension i feel, just dura's call
tired copper
currently silas combos really well with him so there is that.
tall maple
so having a 4 star lucius despite explicitly removing him from my wishlist at legendary+ stings
summer cedar
I still f around and use him in lab lol. he's a meta dinosaur
vivid harbor
Yea, I found that to be to the case on my GB alt
tall maple
he's not a bad hero, but he's not as good as people say he is
tired copper
Yep. Online guide sites put him top tier - it's misleading IMO
tall maple
i find him more useful than belinda by virtue of faction tower, but belinda has use in twisted realm
vivid harbor
he's a glass cannon imo (probably not the right term, but the only one that comes to mind).
summer cedar
glass cannons actually deal dmg. that's what the cannon part implies
tired copper
One trick pony?
vivid harbor
yea, im used to using glass cannon for dps heroes, but couldn't find a phrase to describe him
summer cedar
yeah mawtle's pretty much got it
vivid harbor
well not necessarily one trick, as he can tank + heal. But, pretty much
tall maple
he's good in factional tower, that i won't budge on
summer cedar
at a certain point tanks can't tank as well as high dodge does
tall maple
but he's not hendrick and it might be because my lightbearers suck
vivid harbor
tanks need a buff (imo)
tall maple
hendricks stun is great, lucius just delays the inevitable
rowan is a tank and is the most ubiquitous hero in the game imo
summer cedar
hendrick w the new tank artifact is hella good ngl, esp w gwyn
tall maple
granted he's not meant to be tank, he's just that good
vivid harbor
I meant tanks that are classified as tanks by the game, not one's who can outperform tanks at their own role, lol
tired copper
I've yet to ever see Hendrick despite 5 servers, heh
summer cedar
even amongst tanks luci prolly ranks in the bottom half imo. not unusable, just better options
tall maple
oh lol
daimon's a tank and i think hendrick is too
vivid harbor
I've only gotten a single hendrick on like 5 accs, plus he's the only hero i'm missing on my main to complete lightbearers on my main
tired copper
never in PvP, never pulled him...might have seen one in King's Tower
summer cedar
hendrick is mainly for LB tower yeah
torpid laurel
@tall maple One more thing, what should I focus on besides Lyca? And what's the best way to use gems and get dust?
Actually that's 3 things but...
vivid harbor
buy dust from the store every day (only the gold option)
summer cedar
perhaps #classic-questions is more appropriate
vivid harbor
^
torpid laurel
@summer cedar Guess you're right, my bad.
tall maple
get dust at the store for gold use gems on standard summons only until you get heros choice, where you can use that to get the copies you need to get ascended heroes
only do 10 pulls, no single pulls. applies to everything. you're guaranteed to get an elite every 3 ten pulls
can anyone help me with a lineup for mauler tower?
round citrus
Switch safira and brutus
tired copper
@tall maple I think it's every 30 pulls regardless rather than only 10x pulls. So 10x only matters if using diamonds.
pale kettle
@tall maple you should build Tidus. He's my answer to everything
warm swan
If it works, it works. Small problem is 4 of those are GB, so you're spreading your GB fodder thin. Who will you ascend first?
brave oriole
@tall maple add some gear on vurk and put him on work 😊
@tall maple as about wilder, I'm sure that you have to use lorsan here
tall maple
vurk has full faction mythic gear! nothing upgraded, but he has full mythic mauler gear
also who should i replace for lorsan?
oh lol i beat it by replacing saurus
thank you!! ^_^
brave oriole
@tall maple I'm. not rlly sure, never been expert on lorsan, to link skreg mostly. so for wilder front should be lyca or tasi front with eironn, Backline see where lorsan link skreg and put him there
for mauler then, Backline Brutus safiya vurk, Frontline warek Khasos?
tall maple
will try that when it comes around next time! tysm
wilders is working pretty good, i got gorvo and vaden from soulsyones
brave oriole
yeah well, Wilders have the best synergy
tall maple
yeah, i like them best too so it's win win for me :)
pearl juniper
Anyone can help me plz I’m just entering chap 8 I need to ascend someting what should I do ?
weak island
I swear this level is bs, every time I upgrade my heroes it just gets harder on this stage, and the RNG requires to even just get it down to 2-3 heroes is ridiculous, literally metaphorically pulling my hair out
mild geyser
have brutus tank saveas
raven jasper
Does any1 have like 5 min to give me an hero analysis in pm?
weak island
@mild geyser Brutus survives for a bit but then just dies instantly at half health
mild geyser
yea tahts kinda the point of brutus
raven jasper
Pls @ me when u can
weak island
As in he doesn't get much done, not in terms of tankin Saveas
mild geyser
doesnt thoran just get hit once dies then get hit another time and dies again?
bleak hawk
Any ideas?
grizzled thicket
this floor is absolute torture
surreal mason
Any ideas
pale kettle
wary mica
No worries 🙂 Did you manage to pass the stage?
Nah, team still dies too quickly
Seems to do high damage in bursts
brazen shore
Help 
drifting atlas
some help plz. If i focus on vedan + khasos, I can't deal with niru and brutus. Fawkes captures khasos
pliant stump
anyone got suggestions?
robust steeple
Any idea how I can beat this?
pale kettle
F**k yeah! I don't need no Arthur! Who needs a king when this queen is wrecking scrubs all day, ev'ry day!!!
tired copper
@robust steeple I remember that stage, I think I was stuck on it for 3 days or so
long eagle
Any suggestions ???
robust steeple
@tired copper I get close almost every attempt but I cant quite seem to get it so I was curious if anyone could think of something I might not have
pale kettle
What should be my team
eager token
what should i do after getting belinda to 120 ?
robust steeple
anybody willing to help me figure out which multicomp to use for challenger tournament? I feel like I have a decent set up rn but it could probably use improvement
pale kettle
noobish midgame player here, does anyone know of the best team comp/heroes to invest in out of my list?
valid parrot
robust steeple
@pale kettle rowan or safiya would be ur best bet out of the legendaries u have
pale kettle
@robust steeple alright, thank you! what’s the best team comp that can be made out of those characters?
thorny stirrup
Trying to get 45 million damage would appreciate any help building a team
robust steeple
@pale kettle https://afk.guide/best-team/ I find this to be a pretty good guide for meta comps
gilded lily
So anyone can help
supple swallow
Any suggestions for this quest? Belinda and Mirael wipe out my tanks immediately. Not even overleveled shemira survives Estrilda's charge
pale kettle
@thorny stirrup ask in #761364531732807690 they can help you with questions related to AE
@gilded lily build Mirael up to L+ and use her as your carry. Check the pins for a beginner's guide
@supple swallow do you have Rosaline? Get her to follow Shemira
copper bone
Need help for last stage. I appreciate any help
supple swallow
@pale kettle I have Rosaline at E+ (I actually have 4 E+ copies...but no Legendary+ fodder for yer). Who would you remove? Arden?
pale kettle
@supple swallow swap Albedo for her. Rosa has damage reduction when she follows someone so her survivability is pretty good
supple swallow
Thanks (with shemira on front I assume?). Unfortunately
my team is wiped before Shemira is even able to throw her first ultimate 😦
pale kettle
@copper bone try Eironn, Talene, Lyca, Rowan and Ezizh.
robust steeple
Nushura u should focus on getting rosa ascended if u have that many copies, shes extremely good
supple swallow
certainly. I first focused on Belinda (I had two E+ copies) but ever since I have been puling rosalines in a row
Just that as F2P (or low spender) it feels ridiculously slow to make an E+ champion
pale kettle
@supple swallow Shemira can be frontline. Or backline and let Rosa take a few hits so that Shemira doesn't get stunlocked
supple swallow
@pale kettle it helped. Instead of 10 seconds I now last 15 xDDD
robust steeple
ya Im struggling with fodder as a low spender as well
just wait until u need L+ fodder to upgrade heroes to mythic
pale kettle
@supple swallow progress!
robust steeple
that will make u truly sad
supple swallow
Hogan arden and rowan are still wiped in seconds. Instead of Hogan I tried Brutus (for immunity) and they last 5 seconds more...
@robust steeple Isn't it 240 rares to make one L+? And we need 3 to ascend to mythic, right? And split into 4 classes it is close to 1k rares
copper bone
I failed 😞
supple swallow
I like that the game has tons of things to do...but I fear I will be stuck with 5 characters at 180 and no one to ascend
coarse oasis
I got Athalia what line up should I use?
robust steeple
@supple swallow https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777968325896437811/778681901216169984/Hero-Ascension-List.jpg
pale kettle
@copper bone like I wanna suggest Ferael, but I don't even see him on the roster. 
supple swallow
@robust steeple yes, so in addition to a ton of E+ copies of the champ, you need 2L+ and 2 E+ champions as fodder. How many rares is that?
robust steeple
a lot lmao
shell bane
Lineup help for the new hero?
pale kettle
@shell bane what do you have in your roster? If you have Izold, they go perfectly together.
shell bane
I mean something @pale kettle
indigo umbra
shell bane
I mean something <@456226577798135808>
Okay i have it already xD
pale kettle
@shell bane oh good. There goes my time googling it. 😂
@indigo umbra sure, shoot. Nvm, I just saw your roster. Lol
@indigo umbra build about 5 L+ fodders to prevent level caps until 160. Use Wu Kong as a carry until above lvl 100. Check the pins on #classic-questions for a beginner's guide
whole briar
pale kettle
@whole briar check the pins in #classic-questions for a beginner's guide. You'll fly through if you soak up the basics
supple swallow
@pale kettle I was able to pass through this one...I went from 14-40 to 15-27 and I am still progressing. The secret? I picked up the trial hero (silas). Is he this amazing? Or is it the fact that he also comes Mythic that is helping me so much?
pale kettle
@supple swallow He's really good from what I've seen. Getting another Mythic could also be a factor, but I'm leaning more towards his strong skill sets.
supple swallow
I put him in my wishlist since I do not have other graveborn that I am corrently eyeing(other than shemira, ofc)
pale kettle
@supple swallow that's fine. I think he'll be great. Although most peeps would probably advise against it simply bc he needs more testing.
wheat scarab
Help here lmao
pale kettle
@wheat scarab I think a 5th unit would help 
wheat scarab
They would just die to althalia and she would ult to kill everyone. Two althalias seem to get thoran and kept occupied while everyone else seems to last longer than a 5th unit put there
dim bluff
Need some help
wheat scarab
I did get to kill both frontlines and an althalia once but the other althalias ult everytime and defeating me
pale kettle
@wheat scarab what about mercing an Izold?
wheat scarab
The best izold i can merc is being merced by someone else lmao
pale kettle
@wheat scarab what about Kelthur? Friend of mine used him
wheat scarab
Hmmm lemme try
pale kettle
@dim bluff only lvl up 5 heroes. You might have to feed Silvina and Arden to make them L+ and get your resources back. Then pool all resources into Mirael and get her to nuke everyone by teaming up with Rosaline for a double ult
dim bluff
Aight
supple swallow
@pale kettle I breezed through 35 missions in a row with the new champ. Not bad at all. Any suggestions for this one?
pale kettle
@supple swallow Maybe frontline opposite Vedan w/ Shemira an use Rosa to kill everyone
sonic cradle
how should I build my team?
brave oriole
@ember bane maybe eironn vs shem, and replace saurus with Nemora to charm ferael?
finite ferry
is a lineup with
izold
rowan
nara
mehira
and the graveborn archer (forgot her name)
gud?
neat sluice
<@212917859959963658> I think a 5th unit would help <:tiduslaugh:753009905065000...
😂 😂 😂
sinful comet
Hi, this is my 3rd day and I am stucked at 8-36. Pls kindly help .
I have no clue who to focus on and kinda made a mess. T_T
lime fjord
Nvm i got it, all my heroes got killed tho
oblique lichen
Sorry but how would do you build a defensive lineup against ainz? There’s this dude harassing my team in pvp haha 😂
tired copper
Can anyone help? Been stuck at this all day
urban cobalt
@tired copper Try tasi instead of hawks.
boreal breach
Anyone got any advice for this one
tired copper
@urban cobalt Tasi isn't using her banish for some reason
Christ. Did it finally
Tasi still didn't banish - Estrilda completely carried
west light
I've been stuck on this level for 2 days. Can anyone give me some suggestions?
urban cobalt
@tired copper congrats!
Probably the match ended sooner than tasi could banish.
tired copper
Thanks for the help. I watched replay more carefully - she does banish once. That was probably the difference maker actually. Soaking some damage initially, hasting everyone and then the banish.
urban cobalt
@west light Mireal should have been you carry. but try:
Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Skreg
Saveas
west light
No luck. Is it worth resetting saveas and leveling mireal?
urban cobalt
@west light if you are resetting, reset skreg for mireal. You need saveas in the future.
west light
What should my team be after resetting skreg for mireal? Arden Brutus Mireal Saveas Rowan?
past iron
(wrong image last time) stuck on this and idk what to use
urban cobalt
@west light And tasi.
You ideal early game team is:
Lucius, Rosaline, Rowan, Mireal, Tasi/Fawks.
Sometimes use Brutus in place of Luci/Tasi.
west light
Is there a reasonable sub for rosaline?
urban cobalt
@west light no. Rose can give your carry (mireal) extra ults. So, Mireal can nuke the field 2x more times with rose..
west light
Ok. thanks for the info. Guess my best bet is to hold off for more summons
urban cobalt
@west light They are easy to get. don't worry. also I hope you are pulling on LB factional scrolls.
west light
Yes I am.
urban cobalt
Then no problem, you'll definitely get them.
hasty nebula
round citrus
Arden for grezhul and try lucretia for kong but you wont be able to play her a long time after most of your champs are legi or higher
wide gust
guys i need help real bad im stuck in 10-28 and cant seem to do anything to do win saveas with vedan seems too much
oak patio
torpid laurel
Who should I replace rowan with? (2nd account)
torpid laurel
@round citrus Thanks.
fallen flame
I’m having trouble on this stage. Arden roots my roots my team and they just proceed to get destroyed by Niru, unable to do anything. Even if I do use Kelthur and swap places with Arden, he doesn’t get attacked. Anyone know anything?
stiff vale
@fallen flame first thing don't use L lvl hero s go for Ascended tier and then you'll definitely do it
fallen flame
Yea I made the mistake of ascending Belinda.
stiff vale
She's a good hero! No you didn't made any mistake
fallen flame
I’m working on getting around it
stiff vale
Use her instead I'd say
fallen flame
I ascended her too early, that’s the thing. I ascended her before my fodder
stiff vale
Hahahaha 😂 then you'll have to wait I guess
Work on fereal and lyca and tasi they will be very helpful
stiff vale
Lvl them up and gear up
fallen flame
I have Lyca, but I have other ideas with my resonating crystal.
Got past the stage, Oden is actually pretty useful
tidal spear
Tips for 31-4 please?
wheat saffron
Merc an Izold for the first one and Daimon the second team @tidal spear
tidal spear
Is my daimon strong enough you think?
wheat saffron
Yes, more than enough
tidal spear
Cool. Any tips on the lineup? I've never tried to do much with either.
wheat saffron
Something like this should do it, should be easy with your extra levels @tidal spear
tidal spear
Awesome. Now my daimon doesn't have furniture. Is he good without the +3?
wheat saffron
Yes
tidal spear
Thanks! Once a friend gets on to approve my izold request I'll give it a go.
surreal mason
eager token
where should i go from here
urban cobalt
@eager token Reset all of them. Ascend Mireal to L (if possible) and level her to 121. The other 4 should be Arden, Saveas, Silvia and Hogan (all at least E+ and above).
Put Lucias, tasi, Lyca in crystal. Also Shermia and Lucretia if you have more space.
boreal breach
Any advice?
brave oriole
@boreal breach maybe Rosa front of Belinda and replace lyca with fawkes
dull trellis
You think i can do this? I really need this stage to ascend Belinda
tall lichen
The struggle is real on this one. Any suggestions? TIA
slender granite
regal radish
Hi new player here, is this a good lineup?
grand perchBOT
Hello @regal radish,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
faint ibex
somber shadow
Any tips?
covert parcel
My head hurts rn any help? :c
My Gwyneth is getting fawked so i dont think i can use her ;(
raven jasper
bleak cipher
Any way to kill this?
round citrus
Rowan safia tasi belinda thane for now worth a try. Rowan thane frontline
austere tide
solved , thanks!
raven jasper
Bump, pls help
wet frost
Just found out that there are 3 strong rare heroes I should get to legendary+ before using them as fodder, but I've already invested a lot in other elites. Should I bother making a switch? If so, what woulf be the best way to do it
round citrus
Try rowan lucius frontline, belinda tasi lyca backline. Or zaphrael for belinda top left corner to stun isabella
jolly stump
if you can put mehira in the crystal, do
Nemora
Lucius
Mehira
Rowan
Belinda
keen venture
i didnt think to try rowan front
thought she was always back mid no matter what lol
jolly stump
I don't think early game rowan tanks very well, but since you don't have much better choices, its best to try it...
keen venture
yeah shes getting eaten alive
jolly stump
switch belinda and rowan's position, she should tank better
rare umbra
Help please
rigid birch
take vedan out and put in twins
rigid birch
you can maybe take kelthur and drez out of the resonating crystal and put it arden and tasi
your formation should be
Belinda
---->Skreg
Tasi
---->Lyca
Arden
rare umbra
Okee
ionic kestrel
Hey! Sorry to bother everyone, but I could really use some help with this one. ^^;
rigid birch
Silas(Oden)
---->Belinda
Rowan
---->Brutus
lucius
ionic kestrel
Thank you!!!
pale kettle
robust steeple
Thoughts on possible arena and challenger arena line ups?
frosty slate
good pve lineup?
simple tusk
Using Ainz - Albedo - Arthur - Rowan - Anyone a good suggestion or two to start building to fill that last slot?
solid mango
soren and wrizz comp no raine have si 30 saurus
gray oracle
i was wondering wat is the best lineup i csn make with these characters
tired copper
Lucretia/wukong +4 of a single faction for faction bonus
or lucretia + wukong + 3
chilly nest
marsh nymph
Help pls, chapter 20 seems like it's gonna take a long time
pale kettle
Lyca
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
@marsh nymph
Belinda
Lyca/Thoran
Rowan
Lucius
Nemora
@chilly nest
marsh nymph
@pale kettle thx
pale kettle
@marsh nymph works?
marsh nymph
@pale kettle uh nah, Belinda just does so much damage
hazy iron
what team should I use?
subtle inlet
Pls help need to win these 3 I have high energy on few heros they are all full hp too
pale kettle
Lyca/Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Gywn
@marsh nymph
@hazy iron read pins in #classic-questions ur Main DD ( Here Mirael) should be 20/40 level over all. Also is Wukong king in early, and u can get one for free
marsh nymph
@pale kettle thx but now its ferael, I'm guessing just wait and ascend my heroes higher
surreal mason
@pale kettle what u got for this? :/
pale kettle
Lucius
Talene
Rowan
Eiron (call)
Lyca/Ainz
maybe @surreal mason
surreal mason
What do you mean (call)?
pale kettle
Call artefact
surreal mason
Okay ill give that a try a bit and see what happens thank you
elfin wyvern
hazy iron
Im having trouble on what my team should be now.... Can anyone help pls
pale kettle
@hazy iron for now your goal is to make Legendary+ characters for now you want to use lucias and hogan front, and you can use lyca, belinda and tasi in the back, or Mirael instead of belinda
proven star
Stuck at 10-40. Any help would be appreciated. Ive tried looking through the guides, maybe im just having a rough go at it.
pale kettle
show the enemy team @proven star
proven star
Sorry about that
pale kettle
im guessing your problem is that vedan wont die or you're not killing them fast enough so isabella ults
proven star
Essentially yea. Heck half the time the match starts and most of my team is down by half health
sinful comet
I needed advise from experienced peoples for my lineup for pve .
I am really new and no clue Wut I am doing . google doesn’t help me either
brave oriole
go to the guide section here on discord, and check for the pinned guides @sinful comet
sinful comet
so I guess I needed insights from experienced people to have my pve line up to work on with my current heroes
That’s my heroes
uncut widget
does anyone here have 31-49 ss?
pale kettle
@proven star so first, level up priority DPS>TANK>Supports. i see you leveled up belinda yes but lucias isn't all the useful, getting him caught up level wise will keep him alive long enough, you really need a rowan or rosaline, both preferably, use Rosaline for belinda to ult twice, you'd replace nemora and lyca, switch arden and lyca and replace lyca with rose, you might want to level up an agility character that dodges in your frontline
sinful comet
I spent a bit but yea I am on my 3rd day
pale kettle
fun little tip for front liners imo place damage against damage and tank against the tank
proven star
<@!504007771675426816> so first, level up priority DPS>TANK>Supports. i see you ...
Okay, thank you very much! I will certainly give that a go
brave oriole
@uncut widget
sinful comet
Does that work ains? I mean I got out damaged most of the time by bloody maulers
uncut widget
@brave oriole thanks
pale kettle
@proven star if you're tank isn't surving long enough replace it with brutus or thoran
proven star
Ok, thank you!
pale kettle
@sinful comet what are you asking?
sinful comet
Was referring to ur funny tips
charred topaz
what would my best team be im on chapter 9
my team rn is
lucious
shemira
rosaliea
belinda
rowan
hazy iron
<@!520027876972560394> for now your goal is to make Legendary+ characters for no...
my team got rekt lmao
pale kettle
@sinful comet was there a khasos or varuk in the back shredding your team?
pale kettle
my team got rekt lmao
show me the fight what are you fighting against i dont know what faction you're fighting against so i can only say so much + rowan is a big need
pale kettle
saveas is shredding your team im guessing?
sinful comet
Dunno the names
pale kettle
the guy with the spear on the bottom right
sinful comet
pale kettle
@hazy iron dont put resources into leveling up wukong and lucretia put that into belinda, since you have belinda you can de-level mirael as well and put everything into belinda and get her as strong as you can then put your resources into lucias and then tasi
shrewd sorrel
i have a problem w passing stage 7 lvl 36
pale kettle
@sinful comet you need to get shemira to 121, or was it 131? either way its a power spike because it unlockes a passive with her ult and she heals then you can use her as carry to chapter 23 ish
pale kettle
dont invest too much into shemira because you can can alos level up daimon as a carry as well so ive heard
shrewd sorrel
pale kettle
shemira can frontline as long as she is the carry
as the frontline she gets attacked giving her energy faster to ult faster
stuck trellis
pale kettle
just make sure she doesn't die and gets her ult off and you're pretty much set
sinful comet
How useful is skreg? Can I use him as fodder?
shrewd sorrel
can someone plz help me??
pale kettle
@sinful comet no any ascension tier hero isnt fodder
@shrewd sorrel show me your hero box
sudden aspen
stuck on 8-12 with the lineup on the first row, was using the silas and still loosing but now it’s even worse, don’t know what to use if i want to progress through campaign
shrewd sorrel
so im using top row but instead of Eironn i use gwyneth
pale kettle
@sudden aspen wukong is good for pvp not so much pve, same with your other first row character next to him i think, shemira needs to be leveled up more you want to level up a arden, you need a tank frontline use brutus or lucias, lucias works if hes leveld up early game, rowan is always good as support
@shrewd sorrel gwyn isnt strong early very strong late, your lineup is a lot of damage no tanks and one eh support