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Any advice
gwyn. do u have arthur?
Well my list is above. Feel free to scan it and give me an opinion.
Try, shemira bottom silas mid the king guy switched for the bow guy
@surreal mason use gwyneth back mid, rowan front, if u have arthur use him front, then a rosaline and ferael
I don't have arthur yet sadly
thats my campaign non boss team
then use lucius
Isn't arthur a b rate tank in this current meta
his SI gives him value
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it sent 3x
impossible win ๐ฅ
ah i see now. showing heroes
Yup @ocean pawn ^^'
Ahah :p
@ocean pawn like this?
flip ferael and rosa
ah damn. ur rosa only L. no SI buff
Yea..
she was a huge focus for getting A once she was added
eironn should be front of arden
Should I put talene back in? Instead of her?
no in that team u want eironn middle @brave oriole , to grab more people, the lyca will interrupt eironn
That's all I have. I'm thinking gwen, lucius, daimon, lyca and another tank. I'm not sure.
that's dumb, pulling Brutus without a healer it's a mistake
rowan
Used in first battle for Thoran comp
tasi can tank Brutus, just safiya its bad there, nemora gonna charm her
31-48 is a multi boss?
Yes it is
ah forgot that
Any advice?
so i dunno, try
nemora
tasi
lyca
eironn
safiya or Saurus
Ok i'll try
thats what i would normally use against the screenshotted team but rowan was already used
you gotta see what's better for you, charm. nemora or Brutus @covert parcel. maybe Brutus, since he's gonna decrease his team defense
also, call may work better than eye for this eironn fight
Hmm with Eironn front my team getting os
ive actually taken to using no rowan in thoran cheese comp, using talene and also a daimon
it's rng, if he pulls or not. but he should. pull with dura's call 1 from 2
First team i used
Thoran Rowan
Ferael Daimon Talene
hm
ah idea, . use lucius across from brutus, if u have him high, estrilda at arden, lyca, gwyneth tasi back row
try that
knock back and stun arden into gwyn arrows
Ok i'll give it a try
Just trying some more Eironn's one for now
Assistance? Iโm having trouble doing this level. My tanks get shredded quickly and my Backline heroes canโt put out enough Damage quick enough before getting killed by cat girl knife lady
try skreg front row, hes really tanky
just use the hypogean girl for 30%def
the spot im at needing help is a tower,struggling hard
Draco that didn't work that team dies sub like 20 seconds
ouch
there we go. im just not getting the rng to kill tasi
any better team to do this?
dont have god comp
I dont know how good solise is, tasi should be front anyway, lyca where solise is, and I dunno how good solise is, replace her with safiya?
solise is really good. her ult pops 4 seconds in, stunning them all
plus at 9/9 when frontline dies a floral specter spawns, and those shred shields
yeah but shemira free kill you ๐ฅ
nah she gets tasi banished
i just need a way to keep eironn alive better. he 50/50 dies to a belinda bomb, even when shes stunned somehow
just, remove solise and use daimon, swap lyca with tasi
by who? he's back. of rowan lol
Draco you could try my comp
belinda. who gets pulled in by eironn
Try using talene/albedo for front line with ainz rowan and lucius
i dumb. burst. mage. new artifact. lmao
wow the fact that actually almostr worked yoloing belinda in there lmao
Well got it with Eironn middle, Nemora was a good Idea
he got call?
my eironn has eye i want to get tasi to ult first
yes he ults, but shield melts
no, i mean daimon
Try that team Draco its worth a try
well, put front tasi eironn, lyca rowan daimon
try a few times, maybe he will
replace daimon with safiya, and put back eironn middle
Draco do u have twinz?
rowan back in front right
only e+ ๐ฆ
Dang was gonna say twinz talenes rowan mehira and fereal would beat it
shes getting her bomb @brave oriole but lucius is shield down, basically negating the damage
mehira is only L
you may need call on eironn then to freeze faster
ugh still melting me
With the heros I have which ones would you guys put in resonating crystal and use as your main team?
@ocean pawn I dunno, keep trying, replace safiya with ferael
Thanks
Lmao I tried ferael for 6 hours.....:/
well, you should not. have much problems there, do you have Saurus?
Only +28
No merc left cause lilith dumb and put my friends daimon instead of mine and i never noticed cause both ascended
daimon should easy win, cuz he's gb first of all
he shouldn't, he's naked? ๐
He has full gb t2
I had 160๐
Thoran time fk it
OK try
nara
rowan
eironn
tasi
daimon
tasi's teleports one shot ppl
well, tasi it's always rng fight, keep trying this combo for a while
Cheese thoran almost won
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Almost
Nooo time out loss.. I went back to solise comp and beat all but tasi
Solise just eats shields
I will push soon my tower , need gold, so I will let you know how I won this stage
honestly, with a Backline like this, gwin should shoot em easy
Does anyone have a gem & summon scroll guide?
She does. But can't get lucius and lucius blocks for shemira
Need some lineup help
A guide is not needed if someone is willing to explain me the most efficient way to get gems
push
play the game, do the things
Hmm actually for all 5 into back row
@mild geyser what's the best thing to buy with USD?
advancement rewards
Why?
Best value
Alright
u got like a week to buy it and if u miss it you gotta wait for the next one
what is advancement rewards
Looks like this
ok
this is what i have for heroes and here is the lineups that i rotate between. need some help was doing really well, now hit a wall
Try lucius saveas rowan mirael arden
rowan outside or middle
@ocean pawn on it now
@round citrus that worked

@ocean pawn a few tries,
Thoughts on my day 3 lineup?
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Sorry bucco my Rowan solos your team
Edit; you have Rowan too, youโre based
Hmmm used fera first team
when you vs athalia you mostly need ferael there, to slow the ultimate
X) i like to go others way
In terms of Ascension what should i go for at this moment . Belinda mythic ir wait for Rowan or lucius copy or another sujjestions?
wait for rowan Lucius Rosa gwineth first
@naive quail don't put Belinda mythic. Put Shemira mythic instead when u have enough fodder. Keep using Mirael until then ๐
They are from different factions One thing doesn't imply the other
@charred topaz you better start using rosaline
@charred topaz put Shemira lvl 140 and other heroes lvl 100. Should work much better
@charred topaz and don't ascend heroes to Legendaary if you can't put them to L+ after (exwample here : Safiya). Try this comp :
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi
see if that help.
also you can put Rosa to L+ when you have the fodder ๐
it would be kinda bad to push rosaline before of rowan, will have big issues on silvina stages ๐ฅ
Stuck for 2 days already
i'm stuck and i need help. huhu
@naive quail try, not sure if Rosa will survive, but
rowan
Brutus
mirael
rosa
Lucius
and Btw do you have dura's call already? helps on Lucius to shield up faster
Any tips?
This is where I'm at I need some help to complete chapter 13 what should my lineup be and do I need to move hero level around?
@eternal ocean Who will Rosa follow in that line-up? Shem? Also, Daimon can't tank that. Might be better to switch Lucius in front instead.
I have just logged back on after more than a year of not playing and decided I want to fix up my lineup. Can some friendly folks help me out with the current meta and any recommendations?
Here is my roster
Tasi lyca rowan saevas brutus maybe u need eironn legi
Rowan brutus frontline
Or try eironn instead of brutus dont know if hes tanky enough already
Any suggestions?
@round citrus in any specific order?
@round citrus nvm I just tried a random order with the team and it worked. Thank you!
Daimon lucius frontline, if daimon gets oneshot maybe rosaline front daimon behind her
Nice gw
Pls tell me how my dumb brain doing this line up beat the battle
Help pls, rlly close
Can anyone tell me what heroes I should raise and what lineup I should choose? I'm stuck on 10-40.
Try silas gwyneth mirael kelthur gorvo for some stages
Its not a long term lineup tho
Anybody got suggestions? I have pushed from 20-32 to here in an hour arter buying ainz, but iโm struggling a bit right here
THX but still can't pass tho haha.
Any suggestions?
@stuck trellis Sorry to piggyback. But how in the world are my team getting shredded and yours won.
Hai guys, need help, I tried most of the combination I can't, kept failing
That was annoying lol
@warm swan u just mash retries and hope to god rng is on your side 
also, call eironn tasi, eye fera lyca, blade safiya, chalice rowan
baden is always a stupid rng fest
@stuck trellis that's exactly what I use except for Lyca I use the um shield one. Should probably switch to eye
u mean grace? thats fine on lyca , u can keep
Pls help guys
@wooden oyster reset tasi rowan to 81, level wukong higher
lucius
talene
rowan
wukong
tasi/arden
@dusky hazel Annoying is an understatement, really. Jeez. Thanks @stuck trellis
Maybe switch Lucius with Belinda or Brutus idk ๐คทโโ๏ธ
@dawn tree did u try switching Rowan with Lyca and Brutus with diamon?
not when he doesn't have the time to cast it tho
What about the new characters Silas ( doesnโt he have the ability to teleport and heal his weakest ally)
Hi guys should I make Lucius Mystic, or Belinda Legendary to rise other heroes level on crystal??
@pale kettle Do you have enough fodder for Lucius? Because I don't see an L+ foddder there
Yes I do sorry,if I use them for Lucius it will take long time for me to find enough for Belinda
Oh you have an L+ Rowan. I assumed it was only between Lucius and Belinda. I'd personally go for Rowan to M first, so you can get his SI unlocked. I don't think you need Belinda because you went with Shem carry?
Yeah I am currently have shem carry now... just want to ascend Belinda so I could raise the level of heroes on crystal.... but yeah I forgot about Rowan cause currently I am stuck with a map that my heroes die too quick and need more defense so I wanted to ascend Lucius first.... guess I will go with either Lucius or Rowan and wait for better support to ascend to legendary
I really need a lot of Lightbearer fodder lol
Anyone have advice for this stage? Probably done 200 retries with no luck
Who should I have in my lineup on 6-1
Whats the best comp to go for or make with this for pve
Need help stuck on this
@pale kettle u really donโt have a support but wu Kong and mirael are Carryโs and hogan is a tank
Can you tell me the lineup?
Iโm having troubles with 19-38 I have tried this line up with changing up the positions but I canโt get it done
Rowan
Team should include?
Wu Kong mirael hogan Rowan tasi
Thanks
How u have twins already
Oh so they are good?
Does it matter which one i put in the frontline?
It doesnโt really matter since Iโm just confused
Wu Kong and hogan
There ok but there hard to get
And I donโt know how to make a line up with them
Wu Kong hogan in front Rowan in back middle tasi in back top and mireal in back bottom
Thank you!
Can someone help me with 19-38
Hey all this is my line up currently and was wondering what's the best one not for this stage but for just general stuff. Any advice would be welcomed. Cheers
@bitter rose
I need help. Please tag me with a solution for this stage
@spare cloud have you tried using arden over the twins?
Ive tried using him in different ways but he normally dies to fast to do much im just really under leveled for this part I just got him to L+ as well
You are always going to be underleveled I'd also consider switching to daimon as your carry because he can pretty much auto win a match with enough preparation.
@stuck trellis got an ss for this?
@kindred lynx
i didnt need to merc anything else in ch 30 so it didnt really matter too much that i used it here
(although you will need nara for 30-60)
kk, i think i have enough power to push to 30-60 just stuck on this stage
but ill try and merc an izold so hopefully that works
@foggy fox
rowan
shem
arden
rosa
lucius
yeah so u woul dput him on the crystal
Oh thank you will try
@feral plank heres a non saurus 30 option if you dont have him
Had a merc did it on first try
How did he do it on that lvl with that heroes 1k+ retries?
thats pretty normal
i was just a little lazy so I ended up going slower, u just need retires (nowhere near 1k though)
Do you have a solution for 42 ?
Originally i was planing to farm but turnes out i almost have 2 teams so will push
i merced on 42 
Ah rip nps youโre a mvp thanks m8 ๐ค
yeah i guess i sent the non merc one too late, my b
here was my 42 (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/778872819466371102/Screenshot_20201101-151825_AFK_Arena.jpg), maybe you can figure out some other way to do it before merc reset @feral plank
Will try can wait anyways nothing to rush thanks m8
Build me a comp that can do 45m damage to the final boss before I end up not getting my 50 red emblems and end up losing my calm monumentally
Is the deficit just too much?
Eironn Rowan frontline
Drez Tidus Twins backline
A functional tank
I ran Eironn Rowan // Tidus Cecilia Twins for 140m
Hate to say it, but I don't exactly trust that judgement since I'm only going to get 3 attempts at this before it goes quiet
@stark valley just try run it and quit if you don't see 28 enrage stacks
Lucius Hogan // Belinda Eironn Tasi, sus that out, also should look to use saveas/mirael/arden to carry till 161
any ideas? my midgame knowledge is minimal because on my main I just spammed Shemira lmao
back when everyone's meta was Shem Brutus Tasi Lyca Nemora
might just be too low leveled at this point in the game to do anything
I'm stuck on 11-40 please help
Lucius Estrilda // Belinda Rowan (Tasi/Arden/Rosa/Nemora dunno who you have)
I'll dm u who I have
Whats the best comp I can make right now for pve? and what direction comp should i be aiming for
Use FL: lucius, hogan // BL: daimon, rowan, rosa/arden
@stark valley just try run it and quit if you don't see 28 enrage stacks
@bleak hawk yeah I hadn't thought of that before
Didn't matter I got it next try
Questionable ascension choices mate. Where's your Eironn?
No it's not ๐
@stuck trellis
@stark valley what team did you run
I never have pulled him hes in my wishlist and everything he just never came
I'm on a f2p (with the exception of ainz)
And I'm now realizing how good he is being in late game but me being able to get him to ascended tier will definitely take time
@edgy wasp Use Tasi Eiron Rowan Maybe Farael for Fear and Daimon for Tank use Rowan to block Athalia at start
Any tips to pass this stage?
Replace if you want Daimon with Safiya
@plain cradle who does tasi banish?
im guessing fera or morvus
lyca
rowan
eironn
tasi
fera
or
lyca
tasi
safiya
rowan
eironn
Thank you so much, i will try!
I'm stuck in chapter ten and need a good lineup, can anyone help?
@honest nebula swap lucius and belinda and potentially swap silas for nemora and hope for an ogi charm before he throws.
@stuck trellis Finally after 3 days i did it!!! Thank you!
the hope part got me worried but thx, @high pivot i can ascend nemora should I ? (not L+ though)
congrats
@plain cradle
@worn ice you only level 5 heroes, and the only hero you should overlevel is your carry
Nope the charm part is a bit rng but a few attempts will do you good.
kay thx m8
Mirael and Arden seem to be doing me well
@worn ice you're going down a dangerous path leveling both belinda and shem. It sucks you used fodder on both but you really should pick one and use the other type fodder for another unit.
like this ?
@honest nebula how they were before just with you'll want nemora where lucius is now and belinda where saurus is
What exactly is happening in the fight @honest nebula ?
Is saurus getting blown up too fast?
dunno just cleared it without the charm (nemora got dusted)
Welp guessing belinda double ulted then
and saurus tanked hyena and got halfway through the archer
Yeah they're both pretty good but now I regret not keeping one for food
saurus is getting really good (thx the update)
It's not a bad thing at least you didn't do what i did and ascended both because of bad advice. I personally have never used my shemira once lol.
shemira carried me to ch9 personally, then lack of copies
I'm on 10-20 and she's crappy now lmao
Shemira took me from lvl 161-220, smashed through a bunch of chapters
From 220, she's now linked to Ainz and am using him as the carry now
Fear the Bone Daddy
It's funny because shem is actually really meh pre 161, after 161 she becomes a beast @honest nebula @worn ice mirael is just the best aoe mage you can use pre 161. Whereas saveas is the best single target dpser pre 161.
@stuck trellis do you have an other idea for the lineup?
@high pivot so I heard, but I was made aware of that too late I'm afraid. And I'm getting smashed... again
Lucius behind belinda drop nemora put brutus where lucius currently is @honest nebula
@foggy fox what's the fight and your pool of heroes
nope, not working either
golus and saveas drop both brutus and saurus
Swap your top and bottom
Ngl, an arden would probs win you that
wow
I think his nara is gonna get one tapped by sav
nara it is
She might she might not
Yea spam retry, hopefully he don't crit
Its worth a try though if she gets the kick he pretty much wins
that worked like a charm
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she locked saveas long enough for belinda/rosa to work their magic
thx m8 you rule
I pretty much ran the same comp as you did at your level but with saveas over belinda
Always try to nara units like sav, ferael, nemora, arden
They actually the cancer of the early game
Tasi as well is great early game
I got vedan gated for a long time mid 16 I think lol
Ogi is a pain, and nemora fails to charm him
Also @honest nebula if you're going to use belinda as your midgame carry lyca pairs extremely well with her as her ult kb can just ko 3 units
If you like Belinda playstyle, consider ainz
she's on wishlist, and i got both ainz and albedo
I rgrt making belina M, havent use her since.
I feel like the only person who doesn't use ainz
Ainz needs Mythic SI 10 tho to actually work
@thin burrow did u also have shem?
yes
@high pivot he's nice very early then get squished
shem is just way stronger imo, at least with the wilder trio
I did the exact same as you but i didn't use shemira i used belinda
So, tasi nemora and ?
i made ARden L+ to make nemora M but havent found the courage to sac him yet. Hes actually still so fking good
how do i beat mirael + ogi
why is Lucius in the back?
Swap lucius and arden
because he's not bulky
does he ulti?
Lucius is a real tank until about chap 16, then probs relegate him to backline lol
Lucius from the backline will always run up and stun
A lot of people don't know this, he's actually a better backliner than frontliner
he only ults once if he does
im half way through chap 17 and my lucius role is to tank enough damage to get one ulti off before he dies for my shem lol.
how can ogi near oneshot lucius nemora ? is there something i'm missing here ?
i already know that, that's why I'm using him back, used him enough at back on my main to know that's where he should be mainly
@raw rune i wasn't saying that for you specifically
@raw rune Just be aware that he is insanely good levels 101-160 (maybe further) in the front line for this early ulti. Its game changing so dont be afraid to try that out too
yeah i know, but i srsly don't know how to beat this ogi + mirael
also i have him 120 on main but he's not elite+ so he still dies p quickly @thin burrow
Probably don't listen to me on this, but for me I put Duras Grace on him + SI 10 to act as an offtank that can prevent Vedan/Ferael from ulting
@honest nebula it's mostly stat differences ogi is a lot stronger than nemora lucius atm.
Try doing
Lucius
Brutus
Nemora
Belinda
Rosaline
I'd love to stop vedan ulting
Coolbrewer do you have acces to the resonating crystal yet?
yes i have the tea ready
show us your other heros then
But my other magic trick is I put talene in front of Lucius so he walks up and stuns + his 60% energy recov debuff
@high pivot you're good at this
pump Sav to 100 imo
sav can carry early game hard af, He was my first to 160 carried me for ages
i found mirael much easier to use
Do this, those 5 on reso crystal should look liek this, the ones underneath can be your regular asc heroes
@honest nebula i gotchu i help ppl in chapter 30. A lot of it is just understanding teamcomps and the threats. Belinda needs a stall comp brutus is one of the best stallers in the game.
Sav is legit the best early game carry
i know @bleak hawk as i said this isn't main, but atm i cant progress by doing that
id be surprised if mirael is better
how is sav better than mirael, she's tons better
your level 80 bro
i just wanna underline how frustrating rng can be
Sav is better at 141 imo
?? i told you this isn't my main account
anyway thx a lot
@raw rune have u tried
Arden
Lucretia
Tasi
Wukong
Lucius
If he can get an ult off and isn't CC'd to death he can 1v5
sav is a bloody beast early. I saying your using levle 80s on this account, im not calling you new. Im trying to help, you havent even used any slots in your resonating crystal to try anything so dont whinge when people give advice lol
youve literally tried nothing and just say na to everything lol
I'd say its situational, bc if mirael can get supports like rosa, she'll blow sav out the window
yeah i haven't got him l+ on main yet so i haven't experienced 2x
and yeah i have mirael with rosa at e+
Sav is just a stat stick tho
Saveas wants supports like tasi/lyca who can stall for him and buff
could try w/e that other light bearer tank is called again, hes pretty decent early
found more success with lucius so far, wu kong seems better than hogan, i have tried hogan
Ye mirael wants rowan/rosa/twins
have you tried hogan on this stage?
yes i think so
Mirael is overall the best aoe mage early game and does pair extremely well with rosaline. Saveas is the best single target dps early game but both heroes will experience different walls.
if not it was a very recent stage
I mean if I was you I would just throw 5 heroes in your crystal and start playing around.
almost none of them are usable in crystal this early
What would you do here? @high pivot
what do you mean none are usable?
like eironn is better much later
sav. hogan, to start, try those two. literally nothing to lose but 2mins
@raw rune rosaline over arden might be able to shake things up honestly
Lucretia with an ult reset is quite strong
ok ill try her
And rosaline is a really safe choice in the crystal especially since you're building towards mirael
mirael just kills her
no way to stop her ult ing and killing most of my team without cc
how long you been stuck at this stage? more than 1-2 days?
Honestly it might just be a exp wall here
well lucretia can't be levelled anymore
20 diamonds for a reset and can try sav, might work
Lol yea, I think I'm literally getting one tapped bc the enemy units are a tad strong lmao
Reset lucreita for mirael then?
I'll try saveas first
@bleak hawk where im at i get 1 tapped for sure lol
I got like 3 weeks of waiting before i can really beat this stage
i might have reached that with 12-1 idk
i dont think saveas does enough
@high pivot I was praying for Daimon from day 1, got 0 drops
yep mirael is ulting and killing every single run so far idk how to stop her
I didnt get my daimon until chapter 23
I used belinda rosaline lyca lucius/brutus and rowan mostly
With the odd flex unit
I'll try mirael again
Hey I basically have that team except ainz is belinda
I personally think belinda is better than ainz for midgame but ainz has fights where he's better than belinda
With some SI he kinda nutty doe
and plus i can get mirael to 101 since she's elite+ unlike saveas
Cool is it possible that lucius can tank ogi by himself without wukong?
He's my way out of my Shem build tho lol
U can try
Arden
Mirael
Rosaline
Lucius
Tasi
i think i'm bad at this
@bleak hawk i mainly went belinda because it transitions super well into gwyn comp
I had most of the units i needed to make gwyn comp a reality
uh he can't no
Nvm I swapped in rosa for talene and ainz triple ulted during tasi sleep lmao
need wu kong to stand a chanc3
Belinda
Brutus
Silas
Rosaline
Lucius
Magna
Oh god I hate warek too why
Who does tasi banish @raw rune
morvus if successful
@honest nebula any luck?
nope, still getting smashed
Whats killing you?
everything, belinda focuses ogi and he's freaking immune to attacks most of the time
Try
Fawkes
Lucius
Nemora
Belinda
Rosaline/saurus
wish i had fawkes rn so much more reliable than tasi
@honest nebula mb i forgot to @ you
i got it thx testing it now
Give it 5-10 attempts you'll have a bit of rng
noooooopppppe @high pivot , not going through
Do dimensionals count to crystal?
swap talene and mezoth,
Take daimon out for nara and put nara vs Isabella
welp didnt work maybe my shemira is weak cuz i dont think i have enough dmg to win without daimon
nvm tried twice more and it worked wow Thanks alot @rigid birch !
u have a solid comp till the end o the chapter
how do u think i should build my team and who to focus on keep? shemira?
i tend to hget stuck quite abit
try to get daimon as your carry, atleast 4 copies
will do so i should get him as fast as possible to legendray right? pts how do u beat vedan? hes so op sometimes
you can put ferael in for the spook or just hook vedan with nara
however he is always in the front and tend to use his ult before i can kill him
arden is a good vedan counter early game
nara can disabled 1 hero long enough
- with ferael, he won't be spamming his ult any time soon XD
but i have to put her in the fort and she dies way too quickly
if so how should i build my team? nara ferael shemira mezoth and talene? wont i miss dmg?
shemira's dmg is enough I think
@high pivot
nara, mezoth, ferael, shem, talene
like this?
swap mezoth and talene
@forest dirge how did you izold 437? He jsut ults once and then he's like "Peace" leaves
rip not even close ๐ฆ they just die too quickly
can shemira tank in front line?
h e l p
can she ult?
ye
try putting shem in front then
try changing fer to rosa
maybe it's that
hes way too op xD
anyone can help me please
@wide gust maybe if you can pull arden with Nara
ferael should have at least terrorize skill
hes lvl 100
swap shemira and lucius
he does have it however i swear he dies like within 2 seconds
who kills him anyways? arden?
Try pulling arden with Nara and try eliminating him right away
@queen garnet dosent work the dude just turns into bats and kills everyone
yeah arden
if he makes part of your team not move, its seconds until them die
i do have arden elite + i think
then hook arden with nara XD
ok imma try lets see
anyone can help
shemira can't tank vedan?
can but she dies when everybody gets on her
ok my guy ferael dies just like a bug
@fallow remnant maybe shemira and belinda on him, so he dont destroy your team
worth to try
help
remove rosa, put in belinda
so
lyca
lucius
nara
shimera
belinda
NO
?
Hahaha I Izold most things.
have you tried lucius, rowan, eironn, lyca, safiya?
I almost izold'ed it several times
Even just now he was like 2 procs away from killing someone again and taking over 
none of the lineups works, the bats just kills my enitre team shimera is the only one that ults the entire game when she has 1 hp and dies
if i put safya there its literal one second death. Or saveas hit kill her, or shem hit kill her
then wait until you ascend some heroes
got it thanks
- Saurus
- Brutus
3.Eironn
4.Rowan
5.Lyca
if it dont work merc a 30 rowan
safiya is at the back
i know
1 lucius, 2 rowan, 3 eironn, 4 lyca, 5 safiya
ill try that
try switching lyca and safiya
eironn and saurus destroy at a mere 40 lv deficit so this shouldnt be as hard
only bad thing can be rowan not being 30
he is not even close ๐ฆ
u switched gears right?
call on eironn eye on saurus
i swear, if people don't switch gears, i'm gonna lose it lmao
worked
easy stage wtf
gz.
tyvm
hi @brave oriole funny seeing you here
sometimes, I'm around here ๐
@fallow remnant if you want to kill this Vedan, should put Rosa front of him. and shem back. upside lyca and Lucius back with dura's call,and keep rowan middle
Help plz
I just want my exp so... yea ๐ ๐
@pale kettle eironn is not good early game, put something like a lyca or a fawkes
try putting eironn on rowan's position
saveas + safiya try it XD

so I try to not post in here and learn. Iโve been doing that in general. Been looking up tier lists and focusing on certain units. Which do you think I should focus on (Iโm working on end game even if Iโm only on chapter 12 ) (Nubby I know)
what ppls. don't get, the most important it's a strong Frontline, like shemira and Lucius strong, others can be just elite ๐ฅ
@scenic relic well, if you want endgame team, buy all the celestials and hypogeans ๐
maybe that's why you are here. You are strong @brave oriole 
@scenic relic early game heroes are something
end game heroes are a completely different league, with the exception of rowan, lyca, tasi and nemora
ferael rowan etc etc
Oh snaps I get links brb let me check it out
i never knew these kind of line up troubles before x.x
it's either i need more patience, or gears
Yah Iโve been just hoping my ains wipes away w/e give him support with Lyra and Nemora. Albedo front line and wukong or another front but ill start building one of those
good luck!
update the app its reply instead of quote @somber silo
Everyone to 121 first or shemira to 160?
shem to 160
which of my heroes should i focus on or should i try for new ones ?
why are you hoarding diamonds? you should summon as much as possible that early, also can u please send your wishlist to avoid mistakes?
yeah seems good, go ahead and summon
daimon in for shemira forgot to say that soz
pulled a lyca
also got something to get an elite hero from a fraction but not sure which faction to choose
lightbearers
keep doing faction scrolls/cards for lightbearers till you atleast have 4 rowan copies
DAMN
use belinda as a carry, but if you pull enough daimons then daimon
so just focus her abd level her up as much as i can ?
yep, if you pulled those 2 belinda naturally, you can take her to legendary because of the login event giving a free l+
if those are the event ones, you can stop using her as acarry at lv 120, then level up a fodder hero (mirael,saveas)
and then feed them later
i can also get an elite+ vedan if he's any good
Here is the lineup Iโm using and what I have to work with. Iโm stuck on 9-36. Should I be working on anyone in particular? Should I replace anyone in my line up?๏ฟผ
wait what login event ?
appears in this tab under the hendrik event
this ?
nope, the one with the belinda
"The divine light shines upon the righteous."
Numisu or Nemora as healers?
rowan
Nemora
for real get a rowan if possible
this is all i see so maybe i did do it
so dont take bel to Legendary
alright I'll just level her to 120
Hi guys, anyone mind helping? I've been stucked for dem long on this stage
Change Brutus with Belinda and swap places with lucius and maybe change tasi or Gwyneth with talene and then swap places with wukong @wooden oyster
Can someone tell me how I can cancel eironn? He kills my anyone I put in front of him
Anything I can do here?
So I'm stuck at 7-3 atm, using Lucius Silas Rosaline Ferael/Safiya and Wukong. Should I swap anything on my comp or just wait for a while?
Can't manage to pierce this wall. Time expires and both sides are full life. If I remove silas to put mirael there and add another carry the tanks do not survive.
Reset saveas or mirael to 100 and then make the other 140. Put in Fawkes or Arden for whoever you reset
Any tips beating up this guys?
I'm stuck, nothing i do works
@honest nebula try brutus instead of saurus, also retry till your nemora charm the other nemora, or maybe your nemora is charmed instead of brutus
guys im stuck at 9-40 cant seem to win this no matter what i do plus who what should i do take shemira to 140 or damion to 120 first?
something like this?
Put them in the exact same order I mentioned
ok ill try
wait for levels on shemira ig
thought so as well thanks for the help anyways
Help pls, this wilder stage shreds me
Any suggestions? I'm stuck right now.
@marsh nymph
- Brutus
- Lyca
- Nara
- Rowan
- Daimon
take out rowan for tasi if lyca's a pain
@rigid birch it took a lot of retrying for the right rng, but it finally worked! Thx
gz
Any suggestions? Have a spare slot in stone too
is that really the same team 
Lol it is, didn't even look at team was looking at stage
- Talene
2.Estrilda - Lucius
- Rowan
- Belinda
pray for arden rng
@drifting atlas nope, not working either (15+ tries)
also take lucretia and wukong out, put in brutus and nara @round shale
from the crystal
Cool thanks, I can add one right now which would you suggest first
nara
Need help.
does 150 to 160 look enough for this on mirael?
is there anyone i need to raise or am i fine for now? o.o
Depends if u want another legendary
silvina and arden are good for early game
dont btw
Silvina targets enemy mage, arden is good for CC
Any tips?
who does tasi banish?
morvus
then nara on mirael
and take out silas
ok
I'm stuck ๐
ty, it worked
Stuck
Power level up Lucius, he heals and gives a protective barrier, well worth the investment
^ That was for @stiff plaza btw
Any advice on how I can beat this fight with, at least, 4 Maulers?
Lucius and Brutis in front, Estrilda, Belinda, and that one cool new Graveborn hero next to Estrilda in back
@bleak hawk You tried Rowan+Tasi front? Then Lyca+Rosa+Ainz at back. Goal is to buff haste on Ainz asap for his ult.
@robust horizon who should i reset for that?
Please
Switch out the hero next to Khaos for Brutus, he is the Mauler tank version of Lucius
Replace Skreg?
I would say Mirael, since Lucius is an Ascended tier hero and Mirael is only legendary
Yes? I don't have him leveled up so idk how good he is
1st thing, dont level up more then 5 heroes
ye that makes sense
are you on ch8?
Wu Kong is amazing since he's a celestial, I use him on my main team
im trying to get saveas and mirael to legendary , and yes, 8-32
do i raise my daimon and eiron to legendary? or just focus on the early game carries
Unlock the cristal and put some other helpful heroes
Like this @robust horizon i made him lvl 100
any idea who should put?
never ascend heroes to legendary until u can raise them to Legendary+
ah okie
Yes
@pale kettle i ascended 2 guys to legendary and not plus so rip me
@stiff plaza Its not a big of a deal, but try only ascending heroes to legendary until u can raise them to Legendary+
@pale kettle I did what you said, anything else I should do now?
Have you unlocked the cristal?
try leveling up only your highest ascencion level heroes
so like belinda and cecilia
@warm swan I think the deficit is too much for my units, they literally get one shot
like shemira, belinda, celilia arden...
ok thanks, any tips on the level? or should i just level up first then come back...
depends on who silvina jumps
any tip?
ye lol, silvina is kind of annoying
who is she jumping
arden
do you have the dodge artifact?
not at the moment
ok, thanks thou
silvina is kind of easy to handle. what's your all heroes @dire dock?
its up of the battle pic
yeah I've seen, ty ๐
any tip?
@little root send heroe pool
@feral eagle got it through already but thanks ๐
@brave oriole you got any tips 4 me bro?
@dire dock well,with your current heroes, I would add this hypogean girl too, for 30 % def, first of all
ok
@dire dock as about the whole team, you may need still a few lvls on shemira, arden it's good only after 141. try to get rowan as support to have a better game play. try
Silas
shemira
nara
Hogan
lucretia
ok thanks a lot, ill try this in a bit
@covert parcel kinda hard to thoran this. do you have gwineth? it may work. better with
I mean he's almost doing it
Nah used her for first comp and did Eironn ones for last
I feel like i need to force with that comp but idk
well, it looks good, maybe swap kelthur with nara?
@forest cliff try tasi front? use dura's call on tasi
@brave oriole hmm i'll give it a try
My bests runs are Mehira or Skreg surviving Alone

kelthur ghost sometimes it's pulling them away from thoran, do you have athalia to replace him?
not rlly, helthur it's not ccing mehira like athalia. but well, you can't switch gear while fighting anyway, she would need gear for acc
try with kelthur on mehira then, nara would be good on numitsu, to not spawn totems
Hmm ok let's try anyway
Anyone help?
nara won't help much, silvina still one hit your mage maybe. you need a Brutus, do you have one elite or so? it will help most of times vs saveas
Nope dont have a brutus 
Been stuck for over a week
I can spend my dust on getting fawks to 220 or lucius ans talene to 200, i just dont have the fodder for the acension of lucious to mythic plus yet
Is there a better comp I can be using right now over the one Iโve got on screen? Iโm pretty stuck on this stage
if tasi banish is fucking you up i would nara or athalia her
Can i get help here please
@covert parcel I'm. glad ๐
I donโt have space on resonating crystal yet for another
Can somebody help please
@lethal tree sorry I forgot about you, my bad.
Level mirael instead of arden, then
Mirael
Brutus
Cecilia
Rowan
Fawkes/nemora/whoever works
@rich oxide so reset both their levels and lvl up mirael higher
@brave oriole i got it
@lethal tree just reset arden, put the extra exp into mirael after
No, keep him lvl 100 and level mirael to 140
I need some help if you can be so kind please. Final boss of abyssal and would like that 60m damage. These are my heroes, I have 0 support currently set in my list only tanks/mages/warriors and relic 5 across the board apart from support is 4, I feel I have messed up lol please save me. I have tomorrow which may give me enough stamina across most characters for 2 attacks.
@hexed topaz try using silas as ur support
That's a 3 day trial, am I allowed to put it in my team? if so, with what line up? I'm getting around 23m with some little combo's, of the above but I feel like I am either missing something big and I have no chance of the 60m or its a little thing and i'm just an idiot lol
@brave oriole it seems to be working for the team you gave me, but eventually silas dies and then nara cant ult, so how much should i level up shemira?
hmm
I looked, I cannot add. I can remove some and add support, it will enough time for an attack tomorrow at some point. What support? rangers? should I add in?
Last fight in 31-60
@dire dock well, until 140 from now on. only put exp on shemira
@late pewter it should be thoran stage, so you may need a merc thoran
thanks
Ugh, Thoran
What is my best lineup? Iโm in the beginning of ch.31
@fluid pewter I can't say a lineup for 31,since all the boss fights are 2 x. so I dunno, one eironn team, and one gwineth team , sometimes thoran
5th try, can someone help me out this time?
Nara
Rowan
Arden
Thoran
Shemira @random bay
Did it without thoran
ay i beat the level with wu kong instead of nara, thanks xperta for the help
halp
Anyone able to offer a day 1 newb some advice? I am having issues and honestly not sure wtf i am doing lol
@calm tulip there's on the guides section, everything that you need to know. check the pinned msgs. it's too much to explain, so feel free to read when ever you can and have a good start of this game ๐
@brave oriole Thanks will do. Appreciate the direction.
Could I get some lineup advice for chapter 10.
can someone give me a team for this stage
Hey y'all, kinda hard stuck here. Having issues with the treant and Shemira, I've gotten kinda close but if either Shemira's ult or the lightning hits, that's game. Any advice?
!rank
:XMARK6: Persana, that command is disabled in this channel.
Missclicked fk.. My bad
I don't usually use the Hypogean since he's R-ish but that 30% Defense helps a bit.
Ooferss
Help pls
Any recommendations here? Im getting rolled.. cant seem to break twins+lucious wall
Been stuck for a few any ideas from the peeps?
@high pivot as far i remember this stage
lyca
eironn
rowan
tasi
safiya should work
if anything, put rowan front with eironn
@brave oriole pretty much destroyed in seconds
@high pivot oh, you low lvls. my bad. tried already Gwyneth?
but take note, if you want Gwyneth, Arthur should be 240 at all
Yeah safiya and eironn are upcoming projects i just havent been able to pull copies. Arthur i've only gotten recently i just gotta get another week or 2 of dust and my average level should be around 240
@high pivot what I mean, is that you should. lower someone to 220 and push Arthur to 240 until then. but if you want, try with Brutus rowan Frontline, lyca Gwyneth Rosa, I dunno who's tasi on tho.
@high pivot daimon
arthur
Rowan
lyca
Tasi should work
Yeah im pretty much getting crushed i'll try moving around levels later on when im back home
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/779071823982886983/Screenshot_20201119-115230.png i need help for this stage pls
stuck at 12-12 need help
Could anyone help?
Send help pls?
@raven jasper also send image of your heroes, we can't help if we don't know what you have
tips for this?
ascended niru that doesn't sound fun whatsoever...
@thin wind You most likely are not doing anything with that eironn, replace it with tasi or arden or lyca
@raven jasper Does that tasi get to ult?
nope
Should I replace anyone for flora?
yeah problem is i don't really make anything with anything. I don't get why this stage melt my entire team in one sec
@raven jasper The team does look very solid considering what you have, but Pippa instead of Tasi in this case could work
What way should i arrange them?
@pale kettle enemy team is symmetrical so doesn't really matter, switching backline around might have an impact
Assistance? Hogan dies quickly because graveborns murder lightbearers, and Gorvo doesnโt fare too well either and dies after Hogan, leaving my supports to die. Any advice?
Iโm working on recovering from making my Belinda a Legendary, so thatโs why Rose and Silas are rather low ascended and stuff.
post heroes too
Thatโs about all my heroes that I have in my bottom thing that are able to be used.
I want to put ulmus into my comp... idk how any tips?
You have nobody on resonator?
I took a few off because Iโm gonna put my under-ascended elites there in favor of easily ascendable Fodder.
@fickle solstice Ulmus just isn't good really
But hereโs the heroes of you need them.
He's not? Okay I thought he was.. i downloaded last night so im learning ty @coral pier
He's very squishy for a tank
@fallen flame If you reset hogan can you make belinda lvl 121+ and stick her frontline?
Alrighty ig ill stick with what I have tyy
Maybe, but I donโt have anyone to replace her in the backline
Oden maybe, but I have so little knowledge on how to use him efficiently and who he works well with
what if you reset gorvo instead and place nemora backline?
Hogan and Gorvo are my main tanks atm, and I have some exp for levels.
@coral pier cheers i restarted got gorvo and got a support
Yeah but if you overlevel belinda she should be able to tank in frontline
This is what my Crystal looks like.
I only have enough XP for 4 or 5 levels of her, however
using a hypogean would help, for the 30%def
The only Hypogean I have is Lucretia, and she is lvl 1
yeah but only having that one passive from lucretia won't be enough to make the team better
What should I do about the situation? Just be AFK for a few days to farm n stuff, and gradually get diamonds and hope for a good 10 draw at the tavern?
@fallen flame There just isn't much to do with those heroes, you could try the gorvo reset thing, but other than that your options are pretty limited
I guess so. Iโll try to find a substitute for Gorvo and Hogan but other than that Iโll be AFKing and attempting to get Diamonds
@thin wind Does tasi get to ult there?
Tasi get oneshotted by, if i get it right, angelo
@thin wind Replace Tasi with Athalia and have her dive either Angelo or Mirael, that should buy you some time and give you a faction bonus
Is flora any good? I just got her
@twin finch With the right comp absolutely. She isn't exactly a hero you can just stick in every formation.
it worked. Switched in nara too, so both angelo and mirabel were occupied and damian had tim to kill. Ty for the help
nice
post heroes
ok here is an idea, shemira-torne-silas-nara-arden could work
ok ill try it, thanks!
https://gyazo.com/a41c0bcf3a21da4e5c45a3856be55a3f what is the best team i could make with what i have?
i switched things up a bit but it worked 3rd try, thanks man
It was a very strange idea, but I had a feeling that it could work
@stone iron Mirael-Wukong-Rosaline-Rowan-Tasi sounds pretty good.
so wukong and who frontline
Mirael, she is so overlevelled that she should be able to survive. If not you can just select another frontliner
idk if this works https://gyazo.com/78bef09ace5fe4e81662cca617d13821
put rowan middle of the back row, right now he is not healing mirael and tasi
Current lineup and what I have, their synergy is low but individual impact is good.. any suggestions?
Might need to switch out Fera for one of the Wilder trio, or Rosa so she could double-ult Shem.
I need help
what should i do after getting belinda to 120
@gilded dome Which requirement? 4 gb? Ainz? Or just defeating the enemy?
Just defeat the enemy @warm swan
Move Daimon to position 3, Rowan in position 4. Lucius+Izold front. Try to hold off for as long as possible to get either Daimon or Izold to have multiple stacks of ult. And pray for good rng.
@warm swan problem is Izoid gets 1 shot
also Diamon loses his ult in every position, he is the only one getting his ult stolen
any suggestions
@gilded dome That's unfortunate. I used the same line-up as you have, I even mercd a Silas just to test. Although, I used an A Rowan. I'm sorry I couldn't be of much help.
I'm stuck at 7-3, should I swap anyone on my team or just wait and lvl some heroes? (getting a crystal slot in some hours)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/779155368399077396/image0.png
anyone i should remove/add to the crystal
I'd remove khasos and put in mirael. she carries hard up to 160, then you fodder her. @sharp notch also this probably belongs in #classic-questions
@sharp notch Rosa, to follow shemira
i put it in questions but my questions often get ignored in there @summer cedar
How?
Merc who?
I need help in building a team with more dmg since my main lineup mainly consist of support type heroes
Who should i ascend next
You should hold off ascending to L if you can't go to L+ directly (unless they are fodders). That Daimon would've been a solid carry once you got him to M @remote glacier
@warm swan Ah i see so need more copies for daimon then and use nara as a fodder?
Def no. I would suggest the Beginner's guide first.
Orite thx mate
@remote glacier This guide
Oh shit this just means I've been doing a lot of wrong stuff.... Time for a new acc then
Wee bit stuck, any bright ideas from the large craniums of discord
Is flora better than lyca? Trying to see who I should pick from the event
I have 1 copy of flora
Both are good but flora is a celestial so she's worth a lot more. Pick flora.
Kk ty
@maiden marsh u need to post ur entire team
U honestly have zero synergy in that just some random heroes together
Try daimon and estrilda up front lyca chicken dude and rosa in the back
Though ur lacking a carry atm
........ainz?
Ur front is too weak to use ainz and not estrilda atm
I humored you and tried that lineup, lasted all of .5 seconds lol
U honestly have no good choice u have zero meat shield and u have a low lvl carry
There is no magic fix
Brutus is my meat shield, he lasts ten seconds which is better than the other tanks' one
Stuck on 9-40. Any suggestions please
I suggest u upgrade daimeon to 200
@zenith jungle its time to replace wukong with a different carry remember a carry hero should be 40 lvls higher than ur other 4
@summer cedar you have any of Daimon or Safiya?
Eironn Fereal can't kill Tasi
she just 1v5s you repatedly
