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did belinda get her ult off
yeah she did, but didnt do much since i couldnt use hogan do make her legendary +
what u think of the following, i ascend my belling to legendary + then i backline bellinda tasi and athalia, frontline thoran and ogi
thoran and estrilda front i mean.. sorry so that i get 3 light
@silk imp i would go Nemura, Tasi, Arden back line with saveas and thoran up front
@chilly prism will try that out
@silk imp that would probably get you past that stage but ogi might get melted later on kn that chapter
nad at that point i would have no frontline cause i used hogan as fodder.. ur right
If you dont want to switch stuff around you can put athelia instead pf arden. But you need to overlevel saveas over all other units. He will solo carry you to chapter 11ish
You have a GREAT wilder backline. I am at 13-12 and still use my E tasi
ye you shouldnt lvl all your heroes together should ve let everyone at 81 except from your one carry saveas or belinda
I'm on 6-20 and haven't gotten a single dupe elite yet, shem is hard carrying and athalia/thoran is a decent cheese on 1 unit. Should I regress somebody to put saveas in at 81, or try something else?
@silk imp you got 1k gems. I would do the following: reset EVERYONE to lvl 80. Push saveas as high as possible. Then ascend your tank
@past nymph i would definitely go for that saveas
@chilly prism nemura is taking too long to get her heal off, at that point saveas is dead no matter what i do, should i just keep leveling him and it should work?
if you get him to 101 he will get a big power spike @silk imp
@chilly prism ok gotcha will do that to level 80 or 81? 81 right?
Why do you guys recommend 80 over 81? Isn't it better to hit the powerspike at 81? Or am I gonna be running out of essence soon?
it depends on some heroes the 81 spike is more usefull thab others
also you might wanna swap thoran for golus @past nymph which would give you 4 wilders buff too
Basically your carry has to be the highest level unit. Thenk your tank. This is my lineup for example
So athalia down to 61, brutus 80, golus 61, shem 81, saveas 81? Get one level on brutus for his mag immune then push sav to 101?
So your dust needs to go to your carry. Everything else is secondary. For
I have too much dust and not enough xp
That is what saveas does to a team
Put the thorAn in fron of the oposing saveas and the nemora down low to charm the brutus
@past nymph make brutus 81 too if possible
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And then just keep resetting until arden and tasi control the roght people to pass the level @silk imp
omg... this 101 saveas really is strong he almost won a 1v4
Yup
should i keep leveling him? or get the others to 81 at least?
This is the normal@ending screen for me right now. At lvl 161 you@flip over to shemira
wilders tower
thx guys this was OP
@past nymph i would go Brutus/Sav up front with fareal, Lyca, alethia in the back
I tried levelling golus and he can't tank shit despite being e+, I was about to regress shem since she's not my hard carry anymore and I guess just use her xp to get 101 sav with 61's in back.
@chilly prism well shit I did that but sav is capped at 100 til I ascend
Stuck at 7-24. Any tips on lineup? Got few new heroes from last time
How am I doing for my level. Who should I replace with who? Stuck on this level.
@acoustic copper pre 161 saveas is better than shemira tbh
Are you stuck @acoustic copper ? Cause honestly I would figure out the safest way to get saveas to L or L+ then go estrilda/sav up@front woth arden lyca and tasi behind
Golus can go away. That is one E+ for sav. Just need one more and he is good to go but I dunno what all you have
@neon mural switch Estrilda for Brutus when u get him to E+
And try to ditch Hogan as soon as you get Lucius/Hendrick
should i level equally or get arden to 141
Already answered that
@coral frigate do you@have dust to get him to 141? If so then do it. If not then level out the last three IMO
Brick wall at 13-32. Suggestions appreciated on how to break it down!
Tried putting alethia in the back middle to stunlock vurk in place of lyca?
should i be running Shemira or Saveas carry at chapter 8? I have L+ Shemira and only E+ Saveas
I need help. How should start approaching the units that I have? I know I’m in early-mid game but I don’t want to waste diamonds resetting heroes
pre 161 is where saveas shines after 161 is where shemire replaces him @pale kettle
Any tips on how to beat 9-20?
@chilly prism Yep, I’ve tried Athalia, but alongside Lyca. I’ve swapped out Nemora. I’ll give it a shot with more configs. Thanks!
Gotcha is he still best when I already have L+ shemira?
@pale kettle Shemira is only okay up to 160. At 161 her ult heals her. Before then Saveas is a house. But definitely if you can get him to L+
Should I still run Shemira in the lineup? I have tasi & nemora
@bronze field lucius is your best main tank aside from brutus for a LONG time. For your brawlers focus hard all non-ascention tier units to get thay Sav into L+. Nemora and arden are excellent back line for cc.
@pale kettle show all your heroes maybe
@chilly prism bless! so Nemora, Arden, Lucius, what are my other two? Shemira & Belinda?
@pale kettle man you got all the toys. I would lucius + sav up front. Nemora, roman, and arden back line
Saveas seems to get pummeled in frontline
@pale kettle i mean you have multiple options atm all depends on what chapter you are and what you are up against you can make a really strong backline with nemore tasi and arden( which you can almost make L+)
i can make arden L
Any advice here? 18-14
dont do that save one e+ copy for L+
yeah ill wait until i have some fodder
he will really come in handy once you get him to 141
What level was ur peeps when u clear 9-20?
@vale kraken around that lvl but i used a different line up
They got some insane survivability
ye and you kind off lack damaga cuz you dont have saveas?
Saveas only elite+
still he wouldnt be bad i think i did that stage with lyca in front of niru seirus in front of vedan and then tasi top saveas mid and arden bot
13-12 any help?
I haven't tried some of the heroes you have there so I don't really know how to help you with that
@peak arch really? Because my shemira owns everything. She has won 1v5 matches for me.
I cleaned that stage with a formation similar to that one, switching Lyca for Arden and Fawkes until I won but with your current heroes I can't do shit sorry
@acoustic copper she might early on but near stage 7 or later her team will fall too quick so she cant get her ult off fast enough so she will die and do less dmg than a saveas would
saveas doesnt have to rely on his ult to do dmg his dmg is pretty consistent
Not really pre-161 shem is still god she just doesn't heal that's all and saveas is only good to get down one enemy at a time if you keep her alive long enough she'll shred the enemy team
tips?
Switch Athalia for Shemira, Belinda or Nemora and keep trying until you beat it
And maybe also switch Brutus and Lucius positions if you see them dying too often
Can u send your heroes tab pls @coral frigate
Try using eironn on bottom
Tasi
Brutus
Sav
Eironn
Arden
Or
Tasi
Brutus
Arden/Athalia
Sav
Athalia/Arden
i might have to just lv up a bit. it's really hard
Hey guys idk who to select for my main team. I rly like lbs tho
Any thoughts on 9-20?
@glacial hinge bro idk much about the game myself ( i am on ch 10 ) but i think that 9-20 is the most challanging level in ch 9 (as far as i can remember) i got passed it by leveling. Took me 2 or 3 days and then i destroyed the next 10 stages.
Stuck on 9-20. Any advice?
Should I get buy a Nemora to elite+ mine or my first Shemira after Legend+?
Megastuck any suggestions?
@tepid current Are backline heroes getting ults off?
@tepid current Hogan is a nice tank to use and saveas carrys the whole team with good equipment
I always try with both honga/brutus and hogan just instadies normally @pale kettle . My backline heroes can normally get 1 ult off but its not enough. @pale kettle
Stuck 16-20 Need advice plz ty
That's what I used to beat 16-20 @ember bane
@tepid current what should my team look like
Ignore that it's not on the 16-20 stage but that's what I did friend @ember bane
I’m dumb stuck on this any suggestions
Who should I make legendary
I’d hold off on ascending them
@warm ocean ok thx and how do i pass from here I need Dura Sword
Should I get buy a Nemora to elite+ mine or my first Shemira after Legend+?
Any advice for a team?
@pale kettle take out hogan and shemira for nemora and arden I’d try tasi on the first front line spot with Sav behind. If she can survive long enough to blink away before getting slaughtered, keep trying until rngesus shines its light on you. If not, then put sav on the front. Nemora should go on the bottom to charm vedan. If sav needs to go front line and he gets slaughtered, try nemora top behind him to charm niru
They just have too much power I can’t even kill 1 of them lol
I got the best RNG I could’ve asked for and only killed 2 of them ;-;
@pale kettle I’d keep playing around with lineups with the team I listed. I really think it should work eventually. If tasi dies before getting off an ultimate just restart. A lot of battles seem totally hopeless until magically you win
Yeah tasi got 2 ults off that round and I still wasn’t even close
@pale kettle might want sav bottom front with nemora behind to try to take out vedan ASAP.
I need help. Who should I use for this level?
Yo guys what's a solid formation for the arena of heroes?
Vedan can 1 burst anything except for tanks & shemira @plucky flint, I think I’m just underleveled
Can you send a picture of enemy lineup @tired dove
Is your nemora getting good ult value or no?
Usually Nemora is one of last to die
Hello. I just got Hendrik, and I am wondering if I should drop Saveaa and Golus, and run a Lucious/Hendrik/Raine/Mirael/Arden.
I am at 4 in Campaign.
Ditch Golus and use Hendrick instead
@ember bane it's in the top left area
@warm ocean lol I know that I mean my team can't pass these adventure
Yeah it's tough because of you need the faction advantage
Any suggestions. Willing to reset levels
@ember bane your Shem is full M gear? I pass it with M+ Shem 180 with full M gear.. but still quite tough. Actually the northwest camp boos which is Light is easier for me. Since I use Shem.
Or you can clear 40 floors of all faction tower to get M gears first.
Arden instead of safiya for cc. And switch Lucius and hogan
Speaking of Arden, should I make him L? I could sacrifice an Ogi for that
If you plan on Feeding him to Tasi/Lyca/Nemora, then go for it, if not, keep him on E+
Ascend Saveas with that Golus and the other Saveas
Should I ascend any of these? My team is almost straight suck atm.
And Belinda or Fawkes with those 2 Hogans
I would recommend Belinda over Fawkes tbh
You sure? I like Fawkes personally, but who is a better asset?
Belinda could replace Saveas later on, but I personally still used Fawkes E+ for a while
Oh, slow mode sucks. Also, I only get 3G at work (which is where I’m at). Sorry if anything isn’t coming through
Buy copies of him when you unlock the Arena for multi teams
yikes, phishers on the loose, be careful
Multi teams? Like the challenger arena?
That one
Everything in the challenger store is way more than a weeks worth of farming. For me.
Fawkes is the best option early on, and they really are like that for everyone
Champion rewards are just 400/h while Gold are like 270 so everyone has to wait a long time before buying anything there
Ok. Thanks.
Arden didn't work, Safiya did the trick lol
Was able by sheer luck to pull Tasi and Brutus today. What’s an ideal team to make out of what I have?
11-20 any suggestions
Would love any suggestions anyone has 😃
@feral goblet
Brutus
Lucius
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
And switch Lyca between Fawkes and Shem when on chapter 10-12
Yea the 5 I’ve lvld up seem solid. Yea sure I’ll consider the switch out, I’m so glad I gotta Shemira
@lament vapor try this:
Brutus 1
Estrilda 2
Saveas 3
Shemira 4
Belinda 5
@modest sail
Brutus 1
Tasi 2
Shem 3
Nemora 4
Lyca/Fawkes 5
I'm on Chapter 13 so that's the best I could think of
getting folded like tissue paper unfortunately 😦
Certainly worth a shot! Lol
Then just farm Gold and Heroe XP/Essence @lament vapor
Everyone hits that kinda wall every now and then
yeah i can get a couple down stacking tanks but mirael always ends up wiping the floor
hey ive been playing this game for 3 days and need some help with wich chars i should use and in wich formation
@devout meadow Post pictures or heroes and enemies.
@devout meadow Retire your green hero, and next chance you get use the rare mirael and hogan that are levelled as fodder for their copies, so you can get xp and stuff back.
How many resonating crystal spots do you have?
2 atm
Put in brutus for now, and try line up with brutus instead of serius. Switch nemora and lucius spot.
Use this lineup
Hogan
Lucius
Nemora
Numisu
Saveas
anyone got any advice?
Try
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora/Shemira
Lyca
Nemora/Shemira
hey guys I'm unable to kill this lv 240 Lucius in hard mode labyrinth, he's the last guy left and my team of 5 can't take his dmg down xD are there any special moves that some unit might have to help with this?
he does this thing where he blocks and is immune to everything and he does it way too often to allow me to take down his health, most of my ppl are level 162
Nope i need arden in the team to win :/ @sudden sparrow
aight thx @sudden sparrow yeah it went down pretty fast, i was just hoping i didnt have to use a tear xD
Did it worked?
yes
Nice
Cant really win without tasis ult too lol but thx for the help anyways m8 @sudden sparrow
I guess it means the Faction Advantage Relic works for the A.I. as well?
Then Place Tasi 1 and Belinda 4, just for even more DPS
The faction advantage works everywhere
no i mean the labyrinth Relic that gives you +60%to faction advantage
it helps the AI as well?
I think if it is in the lab, it works on the lab
Or dou you mean with the "Auto" On?
no I mean, Relics are supposed to help the player, so if i pick a relic why should it also help the enemy?
I think it says somewhere that some relics also affect your heroes, like the one of the damage increased based on the ascention difference
Tip - do not get the ascension relics things when it affects you everrr
Yee just get em on the third floor or Hard mode if there's no other good relic
@faint quest not sure if you can see everything, but that was my setup
Any thoughts? Any heroes that I should aim for?
Any advice on 9-20?
Was ur shem at 181+? @clear saddle
Sadly, yeah. The power spike really helped. But, she wasn’t fully mythic equipped, didn’t have the armour
@toxic dagger Go for Arden instead of Skreg
Ah, yea almost everyone that beats that stage has her 181+
Yours is ascended tho, a lot stronger than mine
Eh yours got the additional ability upgrade, Whats ur shems power at?
I passed that stage a week ago so, powers a bit more inflated now
Alright
Why I feel so noob when I see 9-20 stage? I can't give a good advice on that stage. Argh
But at that time, my Shem didn’t have the graveborn staff either. So only 2* back then
Lmao almost no one can @dark tundra and yep even the ability upgrade helps a Lot ig ill have to get her to 181 thx for the formation btw UwU @clear saddle
Any suggestions for me to pass this stage? Been stuck for almost 3 days, thx
@faint quest you can try my setup once you get her 181, almost certain it should work if you have eye on Arden. @upper wraith get ur Arden to 141 when you can, then you should be able to pass
@upper wraith Try
Hendrick
Brutus
Shemira
Arden
Saveas
Try to bait Silvina with some of your mages and make sure Saveas is below them so he can destroy Silvina @upper wraith
With 3 root, you can put Arden at the top and he should root the khasos saveas and 1 other and have someone else bait silvina like they said
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lyca
Shemira@upper wraith
@upper wraith can u show all ur heroes pls ty
I Like How we help them but yet they're offline
(Unless they're trying the formations on the game)
I hope it's like that
It really do be like that sometimes, how close are you to 181 Shem @faint quest
I can get her to 181 whenever i can just gotta wait for other heroes to be 160
That’s what I meant
Faction graveborn floor 50 need a team
Oh well i need 3 more heroes from 157 to 160
Wtf is that floor... goddam
Bro when did baden get to be such an annoying enemy??
Literally first 20 sec of battle spawns 10 clones
Ikr
Btw How did u get that gb hat and wand on shem? @clear saddle
This is my whole team
@onyx basin u can easily beat that u have 200 Shem just play abit more formation
Hat was rng, staff I got today after clearing 40 floors. @upper wraith no ur hero list -.-
Oops sorry
Oof Alright
@dark tundrashe being banished really suck
This
I can get lyca to legend if I get one more Arden and ira then i can raise my crystal
Have you tried some of the setups they recommended above?
@steel moat finally
Nice
Shem dies inst after ult
@clear saddle I have but my Arden is not 141 yet
Tfw u beat a stage u were stuck on for more than 2 days

Put ur Arden where saveas is, u want him to root khasos or else ur team dies
Any suggestions? I'm afraid my Shemira carry days are over lol
Who to ascend first, Fawkes or Raine?
any ideas? should i switch up my team?
How do I beat this lol
Is Baden good for anything? Or Nara?
So what's my best lineup for soren
lucius shemira nemora eironn athalia warek silvina
@serene basin Silvina should be include in ur team if ur willing to press ur skills manually
If not just put in Lucius and Brutus front with Saveas belinda and maybe nemora. Belinda wont do much damage but she will buff ur saveas so he does more damage
Manual wise change nemora to Silvina and use silvina skill whenever she gets charmed
Yeah I rarely do manual
I was thinking of ascending Belinda but when I grabbed Raine, it warned me. I have never used raine and want to know if she is good.
I just don't know when to use the abilities
@untold rivet dont fodder any hero that can go up to ascended tier and yes raine is good
So none of these are to be fodder?
@untold rivet later on hogan and mirael will eventually be fodder but not Raine because shes a really good support unit
Ok. I have request things that require legendary warriors. I can't do any of them cause I don't have any.
@untold rivet just wait a bit u will do that when ur ready xd
@south herald dyno is blocking my question cause of too many attachments. May I DM you my pictures and question?
Sure
Thanks teemo
I'm stuck on 13-12, any tips?
I need help with my line-up
Should I ascend one of the 3 that can be used in ascension
Which Forest hero should I focus on ?
11-28
Any team recommendations for peaks of time 3 / campaign in general ? Currently I’ve been using something like Brutus Lucious front and Saveas Belinda +1 back
@untold rivet ascend Vedan, then wait until you get the same opportunity and scend Niru (or however his name is) and make Silvina L
@quartz crow Arden, but don't use Eironn as Fodder
Shouldn’t I ascend Nemora too ? I have 42.000 labyrinth pieces
@neon swallow is it "Secrets of the forest"?
@quartz crow Yeah, do that. Then Buy Shemira with Lab coins
@sudden sparrow If I do that, then the 3 with the ! will be gone as Vedan will eat the other two
Here’s my Shemira @sudden sparrow
@untold rivet that's the point (? Make other 2 E+ heroes so you can Ascend Silvina to Legendary and later on, Legendary + so you can feed her to Shemira
@quartz crow Keep buying her until you have 2 Shemira E+, and use the 100 tavern tokens on Wilders faction and hope to get either Nemora, Tasi or Lyca
I wasn't sure if who you spoke of were the other two going to be devoured
They're just fodder, don't really useful Early-Midgame
After ascending Vedan, I discovered Vedan can ascend again, should I, @sudden sparrow
Yeah, that's what I meant with making other 2 Heroes E+ (Elite+)
oh ok, my apologies, not completely with it right now
And then you said to ascnd Silvina?
Yeah, but you need other E Niru
Go for the Regular scrolls on the event if you can't get 10 faction scrolls and 10 normal scrolls when it ends
event? Which event?
With the amount left of coins, buy diamonds
Coins can purchase diamond?
The
I have been saving the purple things from that quest
I've got 760 of those, @sudden sparrow
Wait until the end and if you have enough to buy 2x 10 faction scrolls and 1x 10 regular scrolls go for it, then, with the last coins remaining buy diamonds
But if you don't have enough coins for it, go for regular scrolls and do the same thing with the last coins and buy diamonds
Wdym? Like entering the game in 8 days?
In that case you lost a good opportunity to get fodder heroes and ascended tier heroes
Ok, so I need to be on top of things, lol
I know some games wil leave the claiming up for a couple days
Any advice for this stage?
yes
@untold rivet the event ends in 5 days, but you can still claim things for 7 more days. It says right there on the tab
Oh, I guess I never looked at it
Any help to get past this?
@neat sequoia level your heroes at lvl 100 and put Saveas behind Brutus
So just focus on getting everyone to 100?
You don't have any E+ leveled up so yeah, that's the limit of E heroes, lvl 100
Yeah Shem is E+ but I think I'll save her for late game when I have more mats
Yup, that's a gamer strat right there
Is this uh..... Possible?
No with that Hogan
No other tanks I have can go past 100 ;-;
Put Shemira or Saveas on 3rd position. Also, who does Fawkes yoink from the battlefield?
Fawkes is an attempt to counter Brutus’ invulnerability and any mage I put down gets killed instantly by Silvina
Then put Fawkes on 5th position, to avoid getting rekt by Brutus Ulti
Anyone has a good setup for 15-40?
@wicked lily try nemora mid, shemira swap with brutus, arden bot
Thanks mate, seems like i might want to level up 😂
You have to
Help pls xd
@dark egret ok this is what you do you put elite tasi in instead of fawkes and the idea is silvina would blink to tasi due to her lower defense and tasi would blink away. So put tasi behind brutus
Yes but only elite
Anybody have a good suggestion for a 5th? Stuck on 9's
@halcyon night screenshot of the stage and ur box pls
Go for Saveas
@halcyon night reset someone and level up saveas
@south herald silvina first attack nemora And kill her And ult fawkes
Put Saveas behind brutus
Brutus And lyca can fast kill niru but Lyca must be on top
@dark egret run tasi instead of fawkes then put her behind brutus
@sudden sparrow @south herald thank you!
Np m8
@dark egret try that but i think u just need rng for tasi and shem ult
Any suggestions?
In this config i cant kill niru
@loud osprey first thing first reset belinda and level up ur shem to 180
The lineup should be Brutus and shem from with Tasi behind brutus then lyca and arden... Make sure tasi have the lowest defense of all magw
@dark egret ye u almost always kill niru last with the team I use. The team require many tries and rng
Okey i try maybe i beat this
What's rng?
Random number generator. Shorthand for saying “luck”
Oh I get it now, feel stoopid
@south herald ♥️ thanks alot
@south herald thanks bro
Ur welcome guys
Help with lineup ,pls
@grizzled galleon replace nem with tasi and tell me how that goes
need help thanks
@wary flame show me ur character box
Help Please, c.12’s been an awfully Slow chapter for me 😔
how to get through this beefy frontline
@mighty summit tell me who does ur Silvina target
@edgy seal Shem brutus front with nem arden and lyca
Any ideas on tower 149 and campaign 12-4?
@south herald still get wiped, should i equip them with best gear or No hope?
@south herald focus nemora
@edgy seal ye ur kinda underleveled
@mighty summit try putting tasi in and let her have the lowest defense so she gets target
Tasi instead of ?
Help with 18-40 please
@south herald tasi instead of ?
Try nem
any ideas on how to get through this feels like im getting too slow through their frontline
@peak arch Saveas is not a front line u might want to use another tank like serius or something which is not the best choice
he survives tho during the stage problem is their frontline doesnt die fast enough so rest dies by saveas after hendriks shield drops
@peak arch to be fair ur a bit underleveled too so just wait it out a bit
ye thats what i thought
@silk sentinel since they're your only E+ heroes, I think you should focus on lvling up Estrilda and Hogan, putting them Frontline until you get Lucius, Brutus or Hendrick. On the Backline put Arden on 3rd position, Lyca on 4th and Saveas on the 5th position behind Hogan, and maybe altern between Hogan and Estrilda position depending on the situation
Who should get the 141 upgrade next? Saveas?
@steep island focus on shem and saveas
Ah yeah that's what I was thinking. Brutus gets 7 seconds for last gasp, but I thought someone else would say saveas due to "sav OP" @sudden sparrow
Also Estrilda and Athalia
Upgrade the top 5 and put the rest in the Resonating Crystal
@steep island look at the picture I posted right before you. There's no need to have more than your main 5 heroes leveled...I have like 15 in crystal now.
Ahh I see
@fleet kernel He IS OP early-midgame
So I should "feed" saveas shem estrilda and a thalia?
@steep island u should only have 5 heroes with levels the rest should be in crystal
Thank u
"Feed" is not the right term I think
@limpid leaf Saveas at the top backline spot and nem at the bottom backline spot
I need help with 5-40
@silk sentinel imo u r a bit underleveled but try athalia instead of arden for a bit and see how that goes because ur arden gets target by silvina which is not good for ur team
@south herald ty
@south herald thank you, that worked :D
Screenshot of the stage pls
Ascend Arden to L
@sudden finch i assume ur aden is targeted by silvina ur front line should be Brutus and ulmus. Ulmus should be on the top side and arden should be behind brutus
Your assumption is right
And how about khasos, kaz & nemoras?
Khasos is no longer in the comp kaz and nemora stays the same
Yup, ditch Khasos and use Brutus all the way instead
The team should be
Kaz
Ulmus
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
i stuck 16-39 ;p @south herald you can help me one more time?
This is pot and yes ofc i can
The comp shall be
Belinda
Lucius
Fawkes
Brutus
Shem
@dark egret if u feel like ur losing extremely just exit the fight and tell me what happened
I'm losing extremely, selvina keeps destroying my arden and brutus can't seem to tank enough
@sudden finch try again with arden behind ulmus and tell me how it goes
@south herald thanks bro i love you xD
Just the same thing
@sudden finch can u switch up ur gears in a way that nemora has a lower defense? If u can do that because Arden’s root is very important
Stuck at 10-36, any idea please ?
@turbid fern make tasi have a lower defense than nemora and put her behind the shield guy
@young apex i would love to see ur box xd I can feel some potential
@young apex i prefer tasi over belinda i think belinda just die too quickly later on
@turbid fern show me ur box too
@south herald Thanks, I'm trying that but without any luck. I'll be able to get Saevas to L+ as soon as I get an extre rare+ maulder
OK thanks
@turbid fern try belinda instead of athalia
2 stage And i can end 16 campaign
Nice @dark egret ur catching up
Alright, I've never tried her out so far. I'll give her a shot
8-4, usually ends with Niru and Silvina killing the last survivors, not enough dust to rank up Arden
Try switching Eironn for Saveas so Saveas could do a little more damage
Or put him behind Brutus
@hybrid zinc Try this
Belinda
Eironn
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
16-40
@dark egret box pls
Try this
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shem
You will need ur arden to root the enemy arden
@south herald no luck with any setup at the moment
@turbid fern just wait it out and level up i guess
Yup, that's what I was thinking about the past 2 days. Hard stop for the moment
@turbid fern try and build ur saveas hes the best carry until 16-4 imo
@south herald A few tries later, your suggestion worked, thanks! 😃
Im evolving xd
Arden root enemy Arden but i lost, shemira cant use ult
@dark egret keep in mind it does require right rng
@blissful tendon I'll pull some more heroes tomorrow hoping I can get my saevas to L+ right away and overlevel him up. Thanks for the advices
Thats the wrong teemo btw
@south herald i know
@dark egret i did try buncha times to get to 18-20
woops~ by the way @south herald Is it better to save all my battle badges to buy just 1 Athalia to get her to L or use them all to purchase scrolls ?
Does anyone have any tips on how to get past the 5 Ulmus for ancient ruins?
@turbid fern if u plan to use athalia a lot, yes buy her because scrolls r too much rng might not be worth it
@stone jewel just beat other stuff first and get good relics thats usually how u beat op stuff
Yeah I’m all tapped out on the others but still can’t get past them
Ok, so far she's been really a big help and powerhouse as I don't have saevas L+ yet. I truly like her to cancel any hero at the beginning of a fight which is a big plus!
@stone jewel show me ur box
Keep in mind people no one knows a stage better than the actual person on the stage xd just sayin
@south herald doesn't work
@sudden finch just wait it out a little and level up a bit more
@stone jewel try this comp
Belinda
Brutus
Tasi
Lucius
Estrilda
Farm AFK rewards, do lab or something for a few days then, I think @south herald is getting overwhelmed helping everyone here
Got it I’ll give it a shot. Thanks!
Ye sometimes its just lvl and ascension difference @sudden sparrow wanna take on from here?
I went silent cause They're all ahead of me or have heroes that I think should be ascended to be useful @south herald sorry but I can't help them with that
But I really think Farming AFK is the best option right now
Oof
Or Re-trying 100 times and wait for good look
@cloud ermine so sorry for late response- but congrats!
Need help
Need 200 or good rng
What about lineup
Always front Shem there it's either up or down so she don't need to move to kill
And should I rush 180
I can go sleep now xD
Need one more mythical but I can make one
Thank God
@dark egret ur welcome hehe
Help?
@fallow mortar my suggestion is that you use mostly light Bearers. Seeing as they attack earth born the hardest. But, you’re team is really good. Strong. Just keep building them up. Good luck
@fallow mortar Keep Farming a bit and upgrade all of your heroes (and their gear)
Any suggestions for my dilemma?
Also, Saveas behind Brutus @fallow mortar
Aiite thx guys
@pure grove try putting Shemira in front of Saveas so he has more time to keep buffing his haste
Word. I’ll give it a go. That Golus is strong af though. 🤣
Also, send a pic of the rest of your heroes
Oh, put Lucius in front of that Golus
Ok. On it!
I’ve tried almost every combination with keeping my strongest in (Shemira, Lucius, and Saveas)
the formation should be
Lucius
Shemira
Saveas
Fawkes
Nemora (try switching Nemora or Shemira for Mirael [tho she has to be Backline center])
Ok. I will let you know how it goes!
Any thoughts and/or suggestions on my general lineup?
Reset Thoran/Vedan and upgrade Saveas/Fawkes
Both those are lvl 1, using reflection :)
Was talking to JDs
Not had much luck with Seveas though, the team always seems to perform worse when he is along :s
Saveas always behind Brutus @west root (switch Silvina with Saveas)
Then Farm enough to make him 81 at least
Is my line up good should I change anything
Try using
Brutus/Hogan
Hogan/Brutus
Saveas
Lyca/Shemira
Tasi
Switch some positions according to the situation but that should do the trick, also try to always have everyone on the same level (maybe with only 5lvls of difference)
I can’t reset those two...those are the ones I use to level up with the crystal. 😢 but...now I’m stuck again.
And yes, I’ve tried the same thing: switching places and using Muriel.
@pure grove sometimes ur just stuck because of the power difference and there is nothing you can do about it. Just wait and collect some loot after 12 hours and upgrade some characters
Im stuck for 5 days now at the same level, and i couldn't save up enough points to upgrade the characters to a good level to be able to beat them
Gents, I need some help. Stuck on 15-16 right now. Searched through Discord, no responses on it.
That's my point, if you reset them, you get everything you spent on those heroes so you can level up others
im at 12-32, srry man, cant help you
Here is my line up on 15-16.
@pure grove try to reset some heroes and max out saveas and lucius (saveas first) and then the rest with what you have left and then try the level again
Question: if I manage to collect enough badges, I may choose my 2nd copy of Kelthur or my 4th copy of Fereal. Between the two, who has the edge?
@shy basalt The only reason I even have that team is because I just reset every hero I had. Are you saying I should just eliminate them from my crystal? Because I’m already struggling bad in the challenger events.
@umbral badger ...what’s a “badge”? (Sorry, this is my first time playing a game like this and I’m still learning everything)
@umbral badger Fereal is more useful late game
How “late”, @sudden sparrow
Real late, c.18-22 maybe
@pure grove In the current event, blue colored coins are called badges and can be redeemed for prestigious prizes
Dang. So I should reset him for now too?
Ah. Thanks for explaining. I just called them “Event coins” because I’m uncouth swine. 🤣
@Rass Gamm#5449 Good to know! Also tempting to get my first Kaz since she is a chapter 12 completion reward, but with 4 Fereals in my pocket I could ladder him to L immediately and have E+ in reserve.
Kelthur is not useful for campaign
@pure grove Uncultured Boor! 😝
Oh my gourd! How long have you people been at this game?! I feel my team isn’t that great now...or is it? For my level? @sudden sparrow @umbral badger
Oooh! I like that! Like an old fangled yet modern twist. Like saying “wasp’s elbows” instead of “bee’s knees”.
Been here since official day 1 F2P
😱
@pure grove If you want to see misfortune, I'll show you misfortune! In these screenshots, which are the ONLY three heroes I have never, ever managed to get? I'm into chapter 13 and have made hundreds of pulls and summons.
Chapter 12, that is
I have the ones you are lacking. I’ve heard Shemira is actually very hard to pull.
Those are my heroes, although that Skreg and Thoran L were mistakes (Thoran more than skreg since I can't get Brutus to L+ and therefore M)
Just need to buy her from Lab store
Thoran sucks that badly?
If I haven't done that Ascension, I could have gotten M Shemira rn
I want Brutus so bad. Cést la vie.
He's a good tank but people only use him on Team Battles as a meat shield
@Rass Gamm#5449 Yes, however at the point where it's risky to run heroes at only E or E+ ascesion tier, getting one copy still means they're squishy and I have looooooong way to go.
Yeah, but you don't really ever NEED a Thoran, Brutus does the job better
And Arden, Tasi and even Lyca are good at E+ (lvl 141 and 161+ respectively)
I am at Level 138, so even "plain L" will soon be limited. Pity since I my Brutus is only L.
All I’m gathering is keep my Thoran unless I pull a Brutus. 🤷🏽♀️
Why did you never buy Shemira from lab coins ? She is the easiest hero to get copies of
@pure grove thinking straight is what you do m8
@Keryl#4888 When I finally had enough coins I bought Nemora because I was in chapter 11 and copy #2 was a completion reward.
Early gameI spent lab coins on soulstones.
Easiest way to get 4 OP heroes, Buy Shemira and Nemora from first 2 Lab store buys and then from the 100 tavern tokens pull do only Wilders and hope to get Tasi, Nemora and Lyca
And keep buying Shems from Lab store
That's what I do and now look at me, I just need to clear c. 13 to get Lyca to L+
I am the only player who doesn't have even one Lucius after eleven chapters and hundreds of summons. On Thursday I made it to 100 tavern coin again, chose LB, and pulled ...
Which faction is the best all around, or is it better to just use synergy? Should I only use faction scrolls for only one type of hero? I deplore being stuck on a level more than 2 days.
So hard stuck until I get that 1 more Silvina E to get Shemira to M lvl180
@Rass Gamm#5449 Wise counsel
I already said it @pure grove
Was I here for that part?
I am doomed to keep Estrilda frontline (her true role like Nara is as a 3rd striker)
I only got luck with Lucius on my alt account, have him Legendary there, on my main account I only have 1 E Lucius xd
@pure grove
Maybe if I focus on making Estrilda my first Ascended then over level I can make her my carry for 141-161.
But, I was talking about the general pulls. Like by diamonds or scrolls. Not the tavern tokens.
Just keep her L+ for now
I have her at M because I kept pulling her instead of Hendrik or Lucius (I do have one Hendrik).
@pure grove Oh, both, but only do 2,700 10x Pulls
Doing individual 300 Pulls is just not good and neither it's worth it
Yep. I cleaved that from my guild. Luckily they’re some nice knowledgeable people around. Thank you for all the info guys! You’re great. Gotta go’
Always trying to be helpful here, also, read the #gift-code update
Need some laddering related help. Goals are to make L+ fodder and/or L class heroes I can run now, and it can be very difficult to decide between the two! Please look at this screenshot and offer suggestions for strategy to make the most of it!
I bought the daily gift set that includes three faction blue heroes and got VERY Lucky with exactly what I needed to make all R+ 🙃
You can easily make Silvina L by ascending 1 Rare+ Silvina using 1 Vaden and another Silvina, then repeat the process but this time with Niru
And Ascend Silvina with Niru
Um.. stupid question but I just wanna clarify, do the arrows on the faction weakness circle mean they deal more damage or are weaker toward?
@Rass Gamm#5449 Great! I guess using 2x R+ of same hero is no biggie when they're fodder. Was contemplating shake-n-bake L+ since I'll soon hit L140
@heymilky#4485 Deals more damage
So maulers more damage to wilders yes?
Yup
@sudden sparrow thanks!!!
Just doing what any fellow gamer would do to help another fellow gamer sr @stone jewel
Suggestion?
Ooooh, someone far ahead of me, let's see o:
@Rass Gamm#5449 So I gather from the suggestion to feed Niru to Silvina that he is essentially the Golus of GB, meaning "As an enemy he is frightening but makes for a squishy ally?"
Ascend that Tasi as soon as you can, sacrifice useless Ulmus and replace Arden with her. Their role is CC so it shouldn't do that much of a difference
@umbral badger That's right, is like Ogi from c.16 or 18
Further to "useless Ulmus", is it worth considering feeding my two E+ copies of him and perhaps Seirus to ladder up my other Wilders?
@grizzled galleon
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
@umbral badger ulmus isnt useless he is actually quite decent
I was thinking Tasi first, then maybe Gorvo if I don't have Lyca at E+ by then
Personally no, ulmus is quite good later after buffs, but more situational.
@opal gulch I can wait a little longer since with 2x E+ I have the ingredients to make him L+ in future
would personally not sacrifice any ascended tier heroes since you nvr know if futre balance updates would maake them strong
If you doubt about using Ulmus as Fodder, then just use Serius and that lvl1 Ulmus
At Chapter 12 I am hesitant to make him L+ now since I dunno whether he will tank/block well enough. I am short on tanks though and he is on my crystal
Nope, he's just a tree which Ulti is to burry himself and throw rocks
I can wait until I finish making 2x E+ fodder, but at that point laddering Tasi seems to be the priority
What team comp should I use for Campaign/Kings tower ? I’ve been using sth like Brutus Lucius front Belinda Saveas +1 back
He's only good when he's in the enemies team
In the meantime I will make and add L+ Silvina to my crystal. I had been hoping for a 2nd Grehzul but hasn't happened yet.
@neon swallow Try using
Brutus/Lucius
Lucius/Brutus
Saveas (always behind Brutus [either 3rd or 5th position])
Arden
Shemira
I will try that
should i level lucius or arden to 141 for 11-40"? lucius dies too fast so i think he might need some xp
E+ Arden gets the job done but if you can Ascend him to L+ to be fodder later on for Tasi/Nemora/Lyca then do it
E+ arden cant reach 141 on his own tho he would need crystal
but ur saying get 141 to arden not lucius right
@coral frigate I was talking to Sexto and forget to @, send pic of you heroes
Dextro* Forgot* your* Man I really nee some sleep xd
Try using Shemira instead of Athalia and if that doesn't work at first, switch Arden for Tasi
i know i can’t beat the level i just want to know who is better to lv
yea that didn’t work cuz morvus one shots the bottom three (the ones not named saveas and brutus) so maybe i should lv lucius more instead of arden
I've been playing since like c. 6 or 8 with that formation so if you could try and imitate it you should do fine, just switch Between Lyca, Arden and Fawkes, and also mixing Backline positions sometimes
Opinion, Eleane or Kaz?
@indigo jolt yep,thank you !
i dont have Lyca and Fawkes @sudden sparrow T_T
wow nice THanks for the advice 😄
Get Fawkes from the Challenger Store
oh it's more worth than athalia? i was gonna save for her
It's easiest to get
What can I use for 9-20. Can use diamonds for any suggestion
Is easier to get him him*
ok thx i appreciate it
Opinion on Eleane or Taz?
Oof, you'll have to farm a bit @Syllable#1468 or at least until you can level almost everyone to 120 or maybe 125 so that Brutus gets more HP and use him instead of Thoran, also Mehira Backline center if a good idea. You should try:
Brutus/Tasi/Shemira
Brutus/Tasi/Shemira
Belinda
Mehira
Nemora
@rotund heron
Any ideas ?
@grizzled galleon i have always prefer tasi over nemora so try that
@ivory swan ascend Nemora with that L+ Arden when you get enough of everything to upgrade her until 180 (9M gold, 14M heroe XP, and 12k dust more or less) and level up Vedan so your Crystal stays at 160
Ik you asked for an opinion about some heroes but I don think there's something to me done there, just wondering if you use Raine for campaign or Guild Hunt and PvP @ivory swan
@cold lily Reset Brutus/Tasi, put them on the Crystal and Upgrade Belinda and Silvina
@sudden sparrow Thank you, seems pretty hard to farm up to 120s also my gears not thay good only 1 legend for tank chest :/
Looking for any and all tips to help me pass 11-38 sadly not a boss level but trying to push to 11-40 then hire some mercs any help would be appreciated
@cold lily Also, use this formation:
Brutus/Tasi
Tasi/Brutus
Saveas either 3rd or 5th position (always behind Brutus)
Arden
Nemora
@rotund heron Remember that is a patience game, all of us have to go through that sometimes.... Most times
@grizzled galleon the way i beat that stage was putting nemora in the center back so she charmed ferael and he wrecked his own team, i also used tasi, fawkes, estrilda, and lucius if i’m not mistaken
The crucial part is that you charm ferael before he terrorizes your team and leeches energy
@south herald a series of defeats 😦
@cloud ermine try
Nemora (charms saveas)
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Tasi
You may have to level a bit so your other characters are higher than 121
@steel moat hmm,ok , I will try
@grizzled galleon maybe the positioning is kinda off
@steel moat Now help @cloud ermine cuz I survived with L Brutus, Tasi and Shemira so I don't know how to help him without them
I’m trying XD he might have to level some more to beat it though, i think i had all my characters above 141 at chapter 11
Never mind, I didn’t have everyone above 141 :/
I get destroyed lol I had a setup with athalia to get me down to just morvus and estrilda but I can’t get passed that
Stuck on 6-36 can you guys tell me if I am focusing on the correct people. Much appreciated.
You're doing well but you should focus on Saveas more that Brutus at that stage of the game
@cloud ermine any way you can borrow fawkes? He will keep mirael in check and possibly slow estrilda down
@slow pivot
Athalia/Nemora
Lucius/Saveas
Mirael (try to ascend her to e+)
Lucius/Saveas
Athalia/Nemora
You can also swap saveas for brutus to see if it works
Hmm I’ll try and find someone with a fawkes none of my FL have lol and where would I put?
Got ya will give that a try Saveas always dies so so quickly. Maybe I just need to level him some. Thanks
On estrilda’s side in the backline or center back
I'm going to put my body to rest, it's been a pleasure helping people but I haven't sleep well, yesterday went black at 7a.m and woke up at 2p.m and stood woke until now, cya bois
Lol take it easy 😅
@steel moat it makes no sense to take Fawkes or Tasi,coz they remove Ferael for the time Nemora’s charm , and she’s doesn’t live long for the next charm 😦
Oh i thought fawkes locked shemira 🤔
Alright keep nemora center back
Switch lyca and arden’s positions in your original setup
@steel moat brutus and shemira front line or Lucius +Shemira?
Try both, lucius has the team shield but he’s not so great against graveborn, brutus might last longer because of his immunity
If you use lucius put dura’s call on him
I’m not sure who isabella will hit but you can try putting lucius on either side of the frontline, shemira’s side will be snared by arden and niru’s side will probably have deal less damage overall, unless isabella fires on that side
When should I feed L+ Saveas to L+ Brutus?
@sudden sparrow Raine for campaign
@steel moat u r rampaging here. That's lovely
Probably around ch 15-16, I didn’t use saveas in campaign since ch11 but i kept him around for arena and whatnot
@mystic barn probably on ch13
Haha thanks! I’ll rampage here whenever i have time to kill
Hmm, well I think I have enough fodder to make a second Saveas actually
Alright! I think it’s worth it then since mythic brutus becomes pretty insane, I think i actually need one to pass the stage i’m on rn 😰
It's happening! Thanks again for your guidance!
Been stuck here for a couple of days now, any help would be appreciated, my brutus takes out grezhul, but everything else gets destroys
you need to kill the niru first but you also have to charm the ferael or else your team gets destroyed
Any ideas .-.
@steel moat the best try ,even Nemora gave charm to Ferael twice, maybe this lvl is too high for me )
@grizzled galleon what kind of gear do you have on your tanks and shemira?
@steel moat Lucius 2 myth +3 leg+ , other leg+
In this stage i had estrilda as my tank in full mythic gear and mirael as damage in full mythic too (I didn’t have a better damage dealer at the time😰)
I think the problem is that lucius’s damage output is too low so you need a second damage dealing frontline (probably shemira) to take out niru
Please helpp lol i’ve been stuck here for daysss and it looks like nothing works, any suggestion is appreciate
@dreamy adder
Tasi
Estrilda
Athalia
Silvina
Arden(put him on resonating)
@lament matrix
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
If you can borrow a tasi you can swap her in for lyca. With the current setup you can use nemora to bait silvina but ideally you would use tasi
What gear do you have on Brutus? What artifact? @lament matrix
@gray stratus can i see how the enemy formation is arranged? It’s not so apparent from just the stage info panel
@lament matrix run duras grace on Brutus
@lament matrix also put duras eye on arden (for haste) and duras blade on shemira
Can i even do this? At this point I think I just need more power
@gray stratus run Brutus shem sav nomu and athalia
Ok ok
@steep cape what formation?
Sav
Athalia
Nemora
Brutus
Shem
??
@vernal berry same boat as you dude, stuck hard
Need help
@clear saddle same level?
yep, my team gets completely destroyed, cant even kill 1 of them lol
Ditto
Not nemora... put nomu in resonator. Run a 4/1 formation. Brutus where he is sav behind, shem back middle for when silv attacks that sav can wipe her. Then run nomu back line and athalia front against golus. Ath is just meant to give to faction bonus and keep Golus busy enough for your team to do work
@gray stratus
@gray stratus You could also run
Arden
Lucius/Brutus
Athalia
Brutus/Lucius
Nemora
Make sure nemora has lower defense than arden so he can cast his cc without being attacked by silvina
nomura?
Sorry but who is nomu? @steep cape
Numisu
Who should I ascend with who??
... what. you cant be srious
Oh ok
I’ve never used numisu so I don’t know how well he works at elite
Fails fails and fails, jeez that stage sucks
Any suggestions for ascension's?
@steep cape who to give the first artifact to?
@lament matrix not even with tasi as silvina bait??
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Yea yes yesssss
@steep cape didn't work. gonna try Cordelia strat
Is that a yes because you’re raging or yes because you beat it?
@vernal berry beat it using this setup https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/602161932753043464/image0.png
I beattt ittt hjahahhah, this was the setup
Way to go!
Ikr haha
Omg it was working but I ran out of time 😭😭😭
Ack that sucks 😭😭😭😭
Just keep running out of time!! Thank you so much for the setup tho! Will try tonight after AFK rewards!
@sly sparrow sorry i skipped over you!
Try
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Athalia
Nemora
Or
Fawkes
Brutus
Arden
Lucius
Belinda
@gray stratus no problem! Don’t give up :D
OMG LITERALLY HATE VEDAN ULT
Yes vedan is a bastard T__T
it gets worse

Vedan isn’t an issue and never has been for me. You target him first with your high damage. Ghetz is far more infuriating with two minions
Congrats on passing the stage @lament matrix and happy cord was able to help ya @gray stratus !!
@steel moat I BEAT IT 😭😭
And it beat floor 100 of tower with the same setup
Congrats!!
Any tips on if I should level up other heroes. Mostly pve
Definitely overlevel saveas and ascend him whenever possible to use as a solo carry,hogan will be a good tank until around ch 9, belinda has good damage, and estrilda starts off squishy but will start getting good as a tank and buffer/single target damage at lvl 121
One character i’d suggest using is arden since he has a great ability that locks down 3 enemies at once
@steel moat thank you will try ♥
Advice for 14-28?
any advice? fwiw bc of lyca arden can only be in that top slot as otherwise hes stunned and soon dies near ogi, similar reason for why shemira is up there.
@mystic barn have you tried stripping your other units levels and getting shemira to 180 ?
Thanks cordelia
@mystic barn
Estrilda
Shemira
Belinda
Brutus
Athalia
Wow that’s a disgusting stage T____T
@steel moat both didnt work :(
What is your main problem with that stage?
I think Ira or Isabella... definitely not ogi he is dead even tho he nearly kills my brutus
But Silvina is horrible too she eliminated my Nemora and Arden in seconds
Thanks @steel moat
Nice job!
@sly sparrow i think you might need to build up your tanks/frontlines enough so they can survive isabella’s heavy damage
Also stuck on 40?
@steel moat
Yes 😭😭 it’s horrible
Is shemira real good from lab store
Thank you! 
@radiant topaz yep! She’s only really good past level 161 though
Whoops lol
Is Thane good
I only have him at 120 tho
Oh then he's eh
:( knew it
Still relatively new to the game and I could use a bit of help. Here's what I'm working with now vs what I have. Any suggestions/improvements?
Do u have Brutus/any other tank, lyca, shem and Saveas? @sly sparrow
Got all except Lyca
Ah, What about tasi, nemora?
I do have Nemora, thing is all mentioned heroes above are lvl 120 too... except brutus is 121... oh i have borrowed tasi but i cant use her until tommorow
Ya I wish they told us before I used the mercenary
@velvet timber your lineup looks pretty good! For a lineup for that stage i’d suggest
Athalia/Belinda
Lucius/Estrilda/Hogan
Mirael
Lucius/Estrilda/Hogan
Nemora
You can start investing in arden for his crowd control ability and saveas as a solo carry/dps
And with checking some of these beginner FAQs, I bought shemira, but I'm seeing that she's better late game
Oh definitely, 161 is where she really starts to become insane, it’s always good to buy her in advance though!
If I was to incorporate Arden/saveas, where would they fall?
Suggestions?
Hang on. Lyca is a tank?
Getting wrecked on 10-28, any thoughts?
@pale kettle kinda, depends what comp you're running
Ugh i wish i could give good advice but i just cant remember What good lineups there were in chapter 6-12 
Can someone help me with lineup?
You need to start getting up and arden:/ @half cloud
any suggestions on this stage ( 11-20 ) been stuck there for ages. 
@faint quest yes i know, but i cant find him easily and i Dont know why lol
Since all your levels are 141+ id get a rare arden and put him in the Crystal and ascend him from there tbh
Any recommendations Iam stuck on 8-4 Silvina can kill two of them and by then everyone else is dead and she gets jumped
Hey should i reset my heroes any try a new setup? Stuck on 8-4
atleast reset tasi and the other low level
Sac skreg for m+ brutus?
100%
@steel moat finished ch14 and unlocked faction towers, thanks for the advice!
Any help for chapter 13..?
I need help with 6-4 and tips on what to focus on or just any good information like upgrades and info
Guilty pleasure: ||frontline nemora||
@silk sentinel athalia sav sat shem and Nara
How is it lined up? And who should have best gear?
@novel elbow this guy beat it using this formation. If it doesn’t work I’ll have some suggestions
@steep cape Already tried that one without wizard man (don't know his name right now) haha.. but shem is almost in one hit dead
You also need to get an arden up asap Cuz these future stages require him @novel elbow
@silk sentinel you’re early game so focus on leveling Sav and shem. For the time being you may need to run hogan es sat sav and athalia . Hogan es front, sav back bottom, sat mid back athalia top back
@novel elbow his name is Arden- vital part of team because of his roots
Thanks @faint quest and @steep cape gonna try that :)
I beat it with Brutus mythic and ran a 4 mauler comp with athalia
Im dumb who is sat?
Satfiya
Oh her name is safiya there is no “t” 😜
It's pronounced "suhf-eye-a" right?? Not "Sophia"
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Shemira @limpid quail
Thanks, but only lasted 30 Seconds 😂 i think i need top ascend more first
Any suggestions for 7-36
i have estrilda, hendrik, raine, thane, fawkes, mirael, and belinda available for a full lb team on legends challengers, any advice on which arrangement i should use
mirael is L, hendrik and fawkes are E, the rest of E+ if that helps
all level 130 as well
Any help on 9-20 please?
@limpid quail shem sav saf Brutus thoran- might work depending if brutus can stay alive
@limpid quail I think you should be able to beat it no issue
@steep cape it worked after several tries with that lineup, thanks a lot
No problem 👍🏻 @limpid quail
@plush kelp use hogan instead of es.then use athalia to dive Arden. Use shem back middle and use belinda top back
@steep cape thanks
@versed patrol I think you’re under leveled but you can try Brutus athalia tasi Arden sav- brutus up front bottom with sav behind Arden middle athalia front top and tasi back top. Might work but it would be a grind
@plush kelp did it work?
13-4 is hard wtf ...
I think... I stay here for a few days ...
Don't have enough dust to push a 5th L+ over 140
try to switch nemora and saveas
Been stuck on here for a few days, any tips for my line up?
@torpid stirrup Only sacrifice Skreg for M+ Brutus if you can get him to Ascended right after
(Generally, you shouldn't do that, but I feel that an A tier Brutus will be good compensation)
16-39 is whooping my arse.
Haaaaalp.
Need some help on 11-38, too low leveled maybe? (could take a loan out at reset if needed)
Lmao all my heroes are lvl 120 and im 2 chapters down of you @stone geode
saveas carries 😂
I’ll be able to help in 5 mins
@obtuse void first off put athalia in resonator instead of silvianna. Then run Brutus ghetz front with shem sav and athalia back brutus top ghetz against es. Have athalia five mirael and run sav Behind Brut which leaves shem back bottom.
@tranquil breach show me rest of your heroes @oak pendant show me enemy @vivid stone personally I say grave and mauler are best factions until mid game in which it switches to grave and wild. Build sav ASAP. Get safiya in there then run Nora shem and Kelth
I'm a low level player, just passed the 30 mark. Most of my heroes are in the 70s. I'm looking to use saveas as a solo carry. What would be the ideal team comp?
@golden spade I am yet to be there but my suggestion is Brutus v ogi, run athalia and have her dive that archer chick, Nara to dive nemora, shem and either thoran or ghetz. So shem goes back bottom behind Brutus. If you had sav I think you might have been able to luck it off. Also make sure duras grace is on Brutus
My team dead so quickly how i can beat them helpmme
nvm on that 11-38, just beat it c:
@stone geode do you have any other epic? If not run Nara back middle, athalia back bottom not sure how Hendricks is but put him top front and lucious against es and sav back top. Other suggestion is put khaos is resonator as well as safiya then run khaos front with sac behind against mauler then run shem Nara and Kelth on bottom with shem or Nara being in front row
_< just beat it b4 u sent that, sry for making u write all that
With saveas @nocturne bronze I like khaos Brutus athalia and safiya and athalia
Scooobz can u help me ?
Lol no prob @stone geode @oak mountain who else you have
my all usefull heroes in the ss
Please send me a full screenshot of all. @oak mountain you may have a hidden gem you aren’t using
made it to 11-40, i’ll ask for help in advance lol 😂 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/602223528326070291/image1.jpg
@oak mountain have you tried thoran bottom sav behind athalia mid shem top and ghetz top front
ghetz grezhul ?
I was using
Athalia - grezhul - thoran - shemira - silvina comp and its not even close defeat
And how should be their lv i cant understand what can i do for this stage :D
@steep cape took a few tries, but it worked lol. Thanks.
@oak mountain yes gretz.your sav should be 20-30 levels ahead of everyone else. Silv isn’t great imo so I wouldn’t use her. I think the suggestion I gave you will get you closer to victory but can’t say for sure
sav saveas ?
@golden spade no problem 👍🏻 @stone geode run khaos sat sav in back and double light in front. If that doesn’t work then try Nara back top, athalia back middle sav back bottom khaos front bottoms do baden or thoran front top
@oak mountain yes
who's sat? o-o or did u mean safiya?
Any suggestions on what todo to beat 8-4 Silvina can kill two before she dies but everyone else gets wiped out pretty much from the start
@steep cape
@steep cape @steep cape nvm Brutus, Lucius in the front and Saveas, Belinda and Estrilda in the back did the job, thanks a bunch anyways man!
https://i.imgur.com/yCGUves.png
21-49 if anyone needs
This was after 50+ retries or so with an auto-retry macro
Can I have someone’s opinion on if I should take Saveas and Fawkes out of my crystal and reset Thoran and Vedan to use those resources to bring them up? I currently use Thoran and Vedan to level my Crystal heroes.
What's up with the Mirael?
@restive yoke for silvas (grave born legend assassin) to kill instead of ardent
Ohhh, I see
https://i.imgur.com/lOeqbC9.png
anyone got anything for 21-52, it hasnt been talked about for 2 months now
Yeaaaaaaah... shemira ain’t gonna cut it.
Any help on 16-40? 😁😁😁
https://i.imgur.com/jFQUAsd.png
nvm beat 21-52
https://i.imgur.com/Gkx8hUS.png formation
Hey guys this is my hero pool I have 10 faction scrolls currently on stage 12-12 should I use the faction scrolls right now for graveborn or wait til lightbearers or what?
@golden spade just level up everyone to 160 (and Brutus to 181) and keep trying the stage changing one or two positions until you're close enough and let the rng do it's thing
@elfin scroll You seriously have not pulled any Brutus yet? Then try leveling up the top 5 (L+ and M) heroes to 160 (Estrilda up to 161 since you can't revert her) and try with Lucius instead of Golus, put Saveas behind Estrilda and try to ascend Arden and switch Athalia with him
What heroes should I make my team with
Reset Lucius, Brutus and Shemira, put them on the Resonating Crystal and upgrade Belinda, Estrilda and Arden so the Elite heroes level up behind the "lvl 100" limit
Alright thx
Beyond*. You r welcome
Guys! I finally beat 16-40 but with an unexpected setup XD
Ignore the enemy haha, estrilda ended up protecting shemira against kaz while arden rooted her and the other arden
Thanks! 
O:
I think her charge really helped me in this case and the inspire got shemira to ult faster
https://i.imgur.com/0STd6mF.jpg
anyone know what to do for 21-54? something about silvina but not sure what the rest of the comp should look like
@rugged marten do you know what you used for 21-56?
@steel moat estrilda ftw
@old bough Shem, Brutus, Wilder trio
im stuck plz help lol
@rugged marten er do you remember which
lyca tasi nemora, or lyca tasi ardent
also do yu happen to remember formation? putting shem/brutus frontline is way too brutal for shem, no matter which top/bot side i put her in, she just dies
@old bough show me the lineup
Who does Tasi banish?
lyca
Use nem instead then
kk , and my formation is okay?
Shem bottom front, Brutus top
Nem top, Arden middle and Lyca bottom
You need Shem to stagger Ulmus's root
her chain skill right?
she basic attacks him but hes still doing it
is stagger a random chance or something?
aaaaaah damn, hmmm alright
yeah i am
shes at 400k power right now
https://i.imgur.com/S5XLCKM.png
She should be able to stagger him
can i have some tips xD
@toxic ravine try
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Khasos
Athalia
thank you will do
@rugged marten thanks for the help but i think i need to wait for that enhance stone to appear
been refreshing guild shop to no avail, got that strength stone like 3 times lol
Hmm, I can't remember then honestly
ill let you know if i ever beat it tho
All I know is 21-60 was the only issue I really had with 21 after 21-4
Try this one
Nem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shem @old bough
Nem will need to survive Ira's attack so she can charm Estrilda tho
kk ill let my macro run that a few times ill get back to you in like 5-10 minutes
should i retire arden
@rose merlin
You could run a good team with hogan and estrilda frontline,
saveas mirael and nemora backline. Hogan will be good until around ch 9 and estrilda will start off squishy but get good at around level 121. Make sure to overlevel saveas, he turns into an absolute beast :D
Another character to invest in is arden! He has an awesome crowd control ability that makes him useful even in late game
Athalia and Mehira are good options in any team, really
for now
Aight, gl @old bough
Oh yeah, Call on Shem if she's backline @old bough
Blade on Brutus
You mean reset level right @toxic ravine ? That’s fine! As long as you don’t fodder him haha
yea
ooo ok
You could if you want, as of now I don’t really see a reason to reset him, as long as you keep up his ascension tier so that you can level your other characters through the resonating crystal

Is there a better Wrizz lineup I could have?
@steel moatwhat were the duras items u had on those heroes when u beat 16-40?
Grace- Estrilda
Eye- Arden
Drape- Lyca
Blade- Shemira
I actually don’t think i had duras call on anyone because i forgot to equip it XD but it should theoretically go on nemora!
Alright cool thx and ok xD
@weary socket What is your main concern? (eg. need more damage, need team to last longer, etc?)
Stuck on 11-36 help please
@fickle meteor
Fawkes
Lucius
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Or
Fawkes
Lucius
Belinda
Brutus
Nemora
Fawkes will slow estrilda’s attack speed and energy regen
Lucius
Brutus
Saveas
Shemira
Nemora
(?
Maybe not Shemira, you almost always need Tasi for her to do the job faster so use Belinda instead
@steel moat any suggestions on a pure grez counter?
Hmm most of the time i’ve stuck estrilda or shemira in front of him, if you can get nemora to charm him he will cast his shield over one of your team instead so she works too!
I did not know that I’ll try it!
@steel moat none of that seems to work, the saveas just melts everyone on the bottom side and Lucius dies before he can ult
You may need lyca’s haste to get her charm in faster and i think nemora has to be 141+
Does it go badly even when nemora charms him? 😰 @fickle meteor
Yeah, my saveas hardly does the dps to stop it and once Brutus shield drops they all just die almost instantly
Hmm try estrilda in place of brutus, switch over dura’s grace to her and any of your best strength gear, she’s probably squishy at that level but her charge should take the 2 maulers down a notch
If she’s still too squishy try leveling/ascending her if possible or hiring a friend’s mercenary
Any ideas I’m getting close but not enough for rng to luck me out
That seems like a pretty good setup, what happens when you try to battle them?
@steel moat yeah all my Frontline just die instantly just gonna have to wait for fodder and levels I guess
That’s alright! I think i was around level 80 something when i passed ch 11 so it’s fine to wait!
That actually works worse then nemora front with kaz behind and saf in back
If my kaz hits Isabella they get left with golus and vurk standing usually
@fickle meteor you can beat that with what you have
You might need someone like estrilda to take down the maulers, despite all the graveborn she worked well for me on that stage
