#lineup-help
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i haven’t played in around 400 days, are any of these good? i’m stuck on chapter 24 atm. idk what characters to get if i should get some
Who should i go for?
=restarting
Nobody till you have more DI
nobody
👍
Hello guys,
I’m a returning player and I’ve finally manage to get this f2p account past chapter 31.
Unfortunately I didn’t remember you had to fight with 2 teams at some point ( don’t even remenber if I managed to go this far with my old account )
Can you guys give me some advice to which heroes I should upgraded to make my second team ? Or what adjustement should I make to my first team to keep going forward in the campaign ?
Thanks guys have a good day
(More screens )
The first team uses Iven, Randle, and 3 more tombstone characters.
The second team uses Eltharia, Atheus, Gorok; if you have Lyca, it's good to increase haste, and you can use that awakened pipa you have. Place Atheus in the upper front line and Eltharia in the upper back line.
With these two teams, you advance until you start asking 3 times.
what did you use for lost spire stage 24?
My issue is Team 1 just does not make it with iven and Randle, team 1 need eltharia or die…
So just switch positions then, use the Eltharia comp on team 1 and the Randle comp on team 2. I suggested Randle on team 1 because I saw that it was your most leveled-up character, but if Eltharia performs better, use her on team 1 since the opponent is stronger, and Randle with Iven can finish off team 2.
What do you mean exactly by tombstone character on team 1 😂
Sorry, I'm using Google Translate. I'll send a screenshot of what I'm saying so it's easier to understand. Sorry for the grammatical errors.
Team 1 with Eltharia, which you said is the strongest, and Team 2 with Randle and Ivan.
I don't have the Awakened pipa, so I put the regular pipa to simplify things. In Team 2, what matters is Iven and Randle; the rest is just to increase the faction buff. With that, you can go until you need 3 teams.
Been a while since I played and surprised Rowan isn’t mandatory on the wishlist anymore
Did they release a champ to replace him?
Who should I level up first?
Thanks a lot I’ll investigate on that later 🙂
Dps should be highest. So Mira or Bronn whoever is doing more damage. At least that's what I've come to understand.
Mira
So I finally got Randle should I keep Mira as my first level up or switch to him? As I know early on him and Ivan are supposed to be the man carry for campaign
if you already got a copy of elthara, no one
T-T
Someone know why i didn't unlocked the first bonus when my glyph reached lvl 30 ?
hero needs lvl 201 i think
Ok i will try, thank
ehh, I don't think I chose it by default, apparently my play store kinda defaults test server as the downloadable one
I did that and the latest server listed which I was already in was s69 ^^
Any help on this?
I'm stuck at 32-4 because neither elthara nor randle can carry without ivan lol hes just so good. any tips?
i usually keep ivan with randle and i just need to make elthara cast with brutus mira as tempo and lyca for example but here i'm stuck maybe i need other good heroes to upgrade and use
Elthara can carry just put with tanks so she can ult
For Randle he was ass for me then carried in team 2 or 3 after I got his t4 wep which is cheating I guess but mine is only m+ lvl200
Get Atheus in the first team
Team 2 help
What is a good line up to start with?, just played AFK Arena
Wdym?
knox*
randle ivan mira atheus misha
maybe
Tried skipping pulling 4f
that explains why your account is so cooked
3 ascended in ch34
Waiting gb fodder
Do I keep pulling gb or move on to lb/wilder
Move on
Then pull them
it doesnt make to big of a difference
Aight sounds good
need 2 teams for campaign plz
damn you got to ch31 with this that’s actually impressive
elth really changed the world, don’t need ascended randle
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
=earlymulti
yea u just need to hit 16 and elth will carry you to 30+
thx to alvida , a bit of pippa too
=colls
@sinful tundra =earlymulti
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
so for the second team, each month we have to garrison rem + shuna, hope i'll have enough lol
what chest
I bought it 🤣 seemed like a fair deal 🤣
Yeah, finish whoever you are building first. Not really any 1 copy wonder wokes worth diverting resources for
Just save this chest for now or use it if u can reach a breakpoint
What server is this on?
Hero returns gift
I can get ashemira to m+
M*
if that server is too old, you may have to do =returning
what arc said, unfortunately if u havent played for a while u might want to consider starting on a newer server
Server is not super fresh, I am on 1145, new one is 1190
yeah would start on 1190 since u are competing with much older players
how much lol
25
You won't be able to catch up in TS without spending literal thousands of dollars
err wrong person, im dumb
np!
For reference, this is an 1155 account that you’d be competing with
You’re very, very far behind on that account lol
Shes rly cheap
Iiuc marcille is coming to garrison next week. So it makes sense to wait (idk if she will be prio to rem). About teams you have 3 dd - randle elthara Knox = 3 teams. As 4th can be seal+mira when alvida 20f0e0 tanking
Marci is cr/nc
I see. As I wrote idk how she performs. However I'm always so glad to see her in temporal rift red door. But also it's unclear what Marci provides except dmg while rems 9f is very cool...we will see except you already know that rem will remain prio=)
It’s not unclear what marci does she is not a new hero
For you - yes. For me who is playing 3months - she is very new xD - from what I checked I don't see much reasons why she can't be prio over rem for new players (based on my exp rem was almost useless to me before 9f)
you can't
@stark apex thanks alot for the hunt formation. Much better results.
Can I get some help with 31-52 using this? Can't get a win on second team. They keep outhealing me no matter what I try. All clears in formations used at least one woke hero so I can't copy them
Show what ur using
Was trying something like this
Dud you try rem shunav
No 1* cover. She's dying too quick
then make a +1 cover
I did not figure how xD I've spent all weekly attempts and did not got it. Used a lvl up thing on one of tries and still did not got it xD
I mean I've somehow survived till rem ult. But no damage at all
No Liberta no AShemira?
neither. no wokes out of time temple yet. only got anta out of scrolls and no liberta just started building knox
Chapter 31 and that lack of resources ://
I mean what amount of resources do you expect from 7 days old f2p account?
He has Knox so no lib and lib is pretty damn useless early
=guide
you need these guy for second team to tank. Atheus + 1 copy of gorok.
these two guy go with her
3 of them are winning formula for me. Never stuck with this team
first team is ivan + randle
i am stuck with third team. Havent find any winning formula yet. I lack heavy damage mage. My must have third team are Mira + AShemira
Hi, my 2nd day of playing, i just got a few new purple heroes and i’m wondering what kind of lineup you think would be best to form from them
Guys, I spent 50 scrolls in the Temple of Time trying to get Flawkes. If I switch to Ashemira, will that count reset? Is Flawkes or Ashemira better?
It wont reset =te
Woke Prios and TE income:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
=earlymulti
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
Guys, in the Savage heroes category, which one can I focus on to get an A+?
idk which elements or heroes i should go for.... there are so many and i'm confused
check out =guide
you should be past ch16, and be pulling for a copy of elthara
Is it just me or has anyone been getting a ton of graveborn summons? As I’m only at chapter seven and already almost have enough copies of a few of the wishlist graveborn to get them to mystic or mystic plus once I get a legendary+ food hero for them.
I already have 180 stars in forest mania is my acc bricked? lmao
what supports should a team consist of? Buff, Heal and control?
What’s the highest your peoples guild has gotten on the arena of trials event? My team got up to 701 and wanted to know if anyone knew any lineups that would get us higher? So far only found a team that can beat round 2 on lvl 800
Ban this scammer
@brave wagon hes sharing the free money methods
Please he cant keep leaking them all😭
Can i make the main line up better?
Yea
I was hoping to get an answer for what to change
Use better heroes
With the heroes i currently have ...
Is my Ivan good?
the artifact is ass and the si should be upgraded in 10x steps and not 1by1
then keep them together until you reach breakpoints
use a collection from ghoulish gallery over artifacts
Just hit 35-4 and my fourth team is rough am I stuck camping out till Knox 1*?
probably yes, but don’t give up trying! check out the popular formations tab to see if there are clears without knox
if you're not already using alvida in other teams, you can use her with heroes like mira and ashem to make an ok 4th team
My three teams have been Randle+Ivan (+3 GB)/Elthara (Atheus, Gorok, Lyca +1)/Rem+Shuna (Alvida, Jerome, Mira)
I tried to replace Mira with Palmer but when I do Rem dies before she can get going and then my fourth team just ends up being my M Knox with no real backup dmg wise
try aPippa instead of mira maybe ?
Why upgrade once you can upgrade 10 times at a time and not 1 by 1?
To keep good overview and not ending up with half upgraded heroes if you unlock a higher priority one
Makes sense
Bros giving me some elite ball knowledge
Not rly, everyone should know
Well i joined that number now too
=earlymulti
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
Should I ascend randle or focus on something else?
Given that I got lucky and pulled Elthara
who can i put in for wu kong, he dies immediately
=guide
Randle
should I get Ivan or randle furn first? the guide doesn't say 🙁
If you don’t have Ivan yet get him
Use elthara with Ivan
Oh wait i read it wrong, they both want 9f eventually
Think can cheese with this mae still?
Hi guys, i been stucking at 33-4 for a bit, can yall help me with a line up that fit
You should of build Fawkes first atleast thats what the guide says
Also this is for stargazer
Mhm im doing the stargazer all for Knox already...And getting Fawkes now sure will take a while. Tks
don't build fawkes, keep building ashem, then you can swap her to fawkes during anniversary event
Well you usually wanna start with Fawkes now for early game and not Shamira
Thats atleast what the guide says im following that lol
can skip liberta if you went fawkes ngl
do i still use these early 2 teams if i have an elthara copy
Can I make some TS teams ? I want to get a better rank in TS im currently at 60% rank
that guide is outdated now because of elthara
what server are you on
nuh you use her over rems team
is it still with shuna and the other recommended?
mhm no i dont think so
do you know if theres any up to date suggestions?
Im on the 1189 and on the R54
Stuck here. Alternative formations is limited to 2 people and I've run each about 30 times. Any advice would be appreciated.
The 2 teams Die ?
I
Yeah
use gorren and or alvida in the second team probably
Have you tried swap them ?
Yeah swap gorok and mira and remove mira to put alvida
I lied team 2 wins on current formation
who is targeting elthara
ngl u can js add me i passed this on RC 180 u can see my formation'
Ok so swap brutus with knox and remove knox and put alvida
bro team 2 won the problem is elth brah
Everyone's favorite bird person athalia
and then he said team 2 won
Shit the image is swapped lol, the first one is team 2
yeah I just realized
ngl yall need to look closer
is elth getting cc by farael or just dying fzst
ngl that first comp is kinda hostile towards backline so maybe elth is js straight up dying by sil
Looks like the Gurren swap will work its gotten really close each time. I'll let auto battle do its thing for a bit
Yup Gurren won it. THANK YOU ALL
gud gud
Why does my En Passant team never work in TS? I know I am missing some investments on Alvida and Elthara but is there something else wrong? Win rate of about 16% on round 7 which is the lowest of all my teams by a long shot. Normally top 100 F2P. Thank you 🙏
alvi no si40 breaks this team
and you need lyca sp if you dont use it
Ohhh ok thank you! I’ve tried subbing those two since I don’t have the resources for that but no luck. Do you have a f2p friendly sub suggestion?
alvi si40 is kind of non-negotiable for TS at this stage
need big pony too
and since you already committed si40 you night as well if needed for ranking
=guide
@dapper tangle
i have legacy of grit coming up, anyone able to help me?
send your box in #classic-questions
Does anyone have a good tier list for hero’s new to the game and would like some help
=tierlist
Looking for a Tierlist?
Tierlists are generally quite untrustworthy in this game, because there's too many nuances and different factors that make certain heroes good or bad for different accounts. As a general guide, use the links below:
- 4 Faction Heroes:
=wishlist - Celestials/Hypogeans: #994913771598389318 message
- Awakened Heroes: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
- Dragons/HB: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235, But generally avoid them in the early game
Check out =todolist
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia
(look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible - Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use Ivan
+ Randle
or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest. - AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara
. She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS. - Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
=guide
i’m stuck at 13-1 and is my account cooked?
no why
How tf you even build the hypo up but in general no just need guidance follow some of the guides for help but in general you need to bulid Ivan +randle
Also foucs on Knox aka grandpa for stargazing and envy for the other one
What shows that they're building AEzizh?
it’s a really old account like from when the game basically first came out and i got ezizth when he was just E and ascended him twice thinking i could have him on my team twice and i just leveled him up for the crystal
if the account is that old, you need to restart, but you'll likely get to the point you're currently at in a few hours of playtime
why restart?
theres never a need to restart, its always suggestions
oh good, I see the guide is already updated about the garrison. I was gonna ask about that
=colls
Best team for early?
=guide
That make sense xd I was just lost on that part
if it’s a really old account you’ll forever be left competing with people who also have a really old (and crazy strong) account
the general advice for when you’re still this early into the game is starting over on the newest server, since it brings loads of extra rewards and you have an actual chance at competing in different gamemodes for even more rewards
need help with beating this level :<
nevermind i did it
Struggling with any kind of content that requires more than 1 team, any help?
Umm pls refer to =guide and =restarting
Bro your box should do good in 5 teams ngl
Elth + Wilders 1 team (needs Atheus and Lyca) and Randle + Ivan
What comps r u using?
=restarting
what exactly tells me in this guide how to beat that particular level
Any chance you could be more specific? I created a new account as I was returning but I understand p much nothing of the meta heroes on the wishlist
Can you read names?
you are returning and your investment is all over the places so i am referring u to the guide u need
I can read the names that are there, I was asking what to fill the rest of the teams with
it seems like i dont understant anythign from the guide then
for the Elth its like obviously all Wilders (Gorok Atheus Lyca and a versatile) and Randle + Ivan runs with graveborns ideally
Thanks!
I send now, i copied from some guy that passed my stages
Hello, im on stage 10, any recommendations on which formation I should focus on for now ? Thanks 🙏🏻
read the guides
5th team hard struggles usually
1 3 and 4 easy clears, 2 is rng so just many reruns
and here is my pool
You pulled for dragons way to waely
yea i know, i didnt follow guides from start i was just rushin in the game
im fixing now, luckily not too many catastrophic mistakes
Sorry lads didn’t get an answer in classic questions because of an active chat so I’ll do it here, sorry if it’s an inconvenience to post it here, but I need help on who to swap on legacy of grit event and who to fuse rem with?
wait for grit until end of the event
shemira got like 4-5 free copies so she might be a good decision, eorin definetly once u finish his event for lvling up. but wait more i think
Not catastrophic but not ideal either yea
^
yea definetly elthara was an overinvestment. i will be focusing on finishing her now since im already too deep in. after that doing lan levi skylan slowly
Im more refering to the dragonlites than elthara
yea those too were poorly spent spins i wasnt aware that events bring more value
Like 4 extra copies + some bonuses
sion atleast is high usage ig so its fine, def not optimal
Absolutely useless without 40960 tho
You need to get knox star aswell
im gazing him
just today got to ascended
ehh im like 20330 xd
i am doing jerome si30 then was recomended to do knox si40
For the event if I will keep them till the end I will have 4 turns or only one?
all 4 iirc
Because when I press the question mark for info it says it resets each week, so basically I’m losing a chance to swap them or
its fine ig, but still doublee check dont wanna screw you up lol, i forgot but i think it was stackable
if you didn't use them you keep all of them
A discord post a year ago said they stacked so fingers crossed 😅😂, otherwise who do I prioritise from regular faction heroes, meta for campaign and towers not into much of the competitive side
Atleast I hope I didn’t f up the first grit I did I used some crappy mauler to ascend randle cause I was having insanely bad luck with pulling him at the start
ivan randle mira alvida jerome
=wishlist
you can follow this
Amazing, thank you loads! ❤️
np, good luck
gorok & misha too
oh wait I thought you meant grit in that case there's a bunch to focus on
so basically i should switch to a new server
Likely yes.
i mean i first opened that account probably 5 years ago or something
If you have taken a significant break or haven’t spent a lot of money on that account, you probably need to start over to compete
looks like i will be starting over then
Best of luck! Be sure to start with =todolist and ask lots of questions in #classic-questions
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia
(look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible - Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use Ivan
+ Randle
or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest. - AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara
. She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS. - Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
I just hit 33-4 and need 3 teams, the guide here says to use rem and shuna but are there any replacements for them?
Dragon Temple
Unless u used stargazing strat theres no replacement
Ok, thanks
thanks!
=earlymulti
you don't have a 5th team
maybe alvida with like mira and ashem
prolly won't work
How do I beat flora stages 
Use gorok without cover against flora
My Gorok isn’t high ascension he’s still e+ :/
Which of the mythic heroes have the best signature
He still works
What is the best lineup for these heroes? And what are the best heroes which I can set in a wish list?
Randle is the goat for your state
It this randle?
I want to summon some heroes
Yes this is Randle. Ivan also og
Ok after opening I will try to create my lineup
=campaign
No
Did you forgot to change the wishlist?
=wishlist
What is wrong?
But I have set everything from this
5 heroes from left
+randle
can you send your wishlist?
Wait a sec
looks good
Is this lineup good?
=guide
Ik
I have a healer tank DPS control and debuff
But my control DPS and tank is mele
you should be using randle and/or ivan once you have them. until then, anything goes i guess but these aren’t particularly good heroes
Ok but I don't have them
As u can see
Hi guys! Ive just realised that this game have dc server. Im not completly new Player, I played afk few years ago, ive back to game this year and im wonder. Is this lineup good? Im right now at 30-3 campaign and i cannot progress no matter what I change. Any advices?
Hello @karmic ether,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
you should start over sadly, this account won’t get you any further
there’s great beginners guides on this server, can start by checking out =guide. it’s possible to reach chapter 31 in 3 days of grinding
Well, its sad to hear that, but thanks anyway! I will try new acc but I dont want to abandon this one. It would be somehow funny for me to compare them.
Is there any good gem farm?
I want to get these heroes
can do both! just go to select server in settings and select the newest one (1190 i think)
What I can suggest is input all the codes that you still can redeem that will be a good start
You can get a few summons out of those
Ivan and randle single-handedly basically got me to 31-4 campaign
You can also add mira to those two, and invest in Grook and Atheus in the later stage as well they are even good at legendary+
I tried
I spend around 50k and 50 scroll and get no randle or ivan
So when I garrison rem out do I need her to soul fusion or is she good as she is
You need soul fusion since that’s how you level them
Ok thank you

Any actual guide for grotesque mage?
Shuna first
and you do need to soul fusion
depends on what you're asking
if its just twisted realm, then you usually want to copy your highest leaderboard player
for twisted realm, the best comps are different and vary based on your floor/resonating crystal level
but otherwise, you usually dont want to spam ults, since after 8 or so ults (i dont remember) he disappears from the battlefield
if you can run the top leaderboard comp, its usually something like:
Misha ult straight away
Envy Randle ult 1:05
Randle Ult 1:00
Randle Ult 0:50
I’ve seen the leaderboard fight they ult begris at 1:18 and rest as you say
=wishlist
I dont think anyone rly tries in that mode tbh
I see
=restarting
=campaign
=earlymulti
=earlycamp these 2
What do I do with flora in campaign? She is so annoying
Knox
Ig im doing something wrong. Still need to figure second flora
do you have merc available?
Sadly no. Garrisoned rem & shuna before she got added
Mercenary not garrison
Oh. Thought you refer to that dim hero. I do not. That is 3rd flora in this chapter. Already used it to beat one of this stages
You csn try elthara on the second flora otherwise you need to wait for next week
I see. Elth not winning anything but last team. She's too weak. Ig would need to wait
Who would i need to merc in that case?
Some kinda solo carry
Any proper TR setup I can do? Feel like most of my units need their ults to do well
I need help with my heroes
Which of the mythic hero’s have the best signature ranking 1-7
ughhh i hate those cheating stages with flora in 2 different teams
=restarting
what have you done
Restart
Bro look at the guide, you account has every possible mistake
Flora is the bane of my existence 
In my case elthara just doesn’t live enough when flora falls down so it’s just Lyca/atheus hitting like wet noodles against a brick wall that heals
I’m in 82 floor can someone help me
Have fun more flora to come 
better pet
also I have a feeling alvida is getting 1 tapped try to fix that
She lives for like 40 seconds xD
I can clear all the enemies minus orthros but then he just heals back to full and stalls
alvida rng gaming
There’s no way to save equipment a champ is wearing for just one mode?
i'm crine
This is a old account
=restarting
doesent really matter, probably go Eorin, youre gonna grit him later on anyway
Make sure he is in the wishlist for both furn and tavern
will this be strong enough to defeat it or should I swap team 1 and 2 so that randle + ivan fight the boss
Try
I was helped, appreciate it tho ; )
Should I power level eorin
Wym power lvl, dont lvl him up if you have a better carry
I don’t he’s my best
Actually I have Palmer he’s strong being at 2713 and eorin at 2689 both being at level 20
I pushed to chap 1-40+ a while ago, I built eorin since copy’s are kinda free and then swapped it to a hero I needed. There was event for newbies where you could swap 3 champs, don’t know if it’s still running for new servers. Then I did basically everything in campaign until two teams needed with Randle, Ivan, Gorren, Atheus. One spot as flex, sometimes 1 copy celehypo did the stage, sometimes nara, but this team is better choice than rem imo. I had rem build up cuz it was so hyped and never used her until 2 team stages.
If you push Randle and Ivan they prolly even duo a lot
Recommended team comps for 4 team stages on temporal rift?
Is this fine for ch 3
Everything is fine in early game
Do you have rem from garrison?
Yes and shuuna
Which heroes should I focus on?
=restarting
?
thanks but im missing a few heroes 🙁
Ur account is completely cooked aka you played rly bad
😭 damn no wonder it feels weak
I donnu what stage your are but if youre below ch31 you can have a better account within a few days if you follow the guides here
I started another another a month or less ago
Let me send a ss
Don’t build heroes you don’t need. I remember Shemira is alot of free copies, maximum you need her is for hero swap so leave the copies until you got plans for swapping
Then Brutus + Nara as you see on the frame just one copy needed, they can make the difference to clear the stage without invest. Personally I’d do same with Thoran at the beginning.
just follow =guide
Cant get Alvida to live here, any subgestions?
You put her in the middle of the enemy team?
Sorry not sure I understand what the question means, doesnt she jump there at battle start?
No the enemy swaps theyre positions if shes in pos5 because thats what he does
Spot 4 she gets nuked by enemy and spot 3 she will get sucked all her energy
The problem is that Niru just turns around and kills alvida when she jumps to the backline, I managed to get her to live after landing with 3 gb + hypo but she never casts w/o Shuna
Well your comp doesnt really have a carry so it wont work ? Idk
Yeah she has been doing the carry role after ult, I garissoned rem before the prio update so was waiting to get shalt next month before investing
Is this good or do i have to change anything for better working?
Here are the heroes that i can change with them team 1 works probably well in everything
alvida, rowan, a estrilda, adrian & elise, talimar, naroko, skriath, villanelle, vika, gorren, gorok, lyca, a solise, tamrus, misha, mira, thoran, lady simona, nara, grezhul, silas, a athalia, liberta, lucilla, leonardo davinci, nyla, skylan.
Or that are high enough to change
I dont think palmer and brutus rly fit there
What else then?
I wanna restart my acc is fried, could you point me to where the guides are?
=faq
ty
i cant progress past ch33 i started this account a month ago idk what to do anymore 😭
Build better teams
Btw what’s your nc best time
How much do you differ from the formations of clears?
1:18 or smth
Nice
just a bit💀
im just struggling with getting the third carry going as ive been using randle + ivan as my first, elthara + any stalls/cc as my second, and rem as my third
@stark apex help this guy with ur clear
the one i struggle with the most os the last one as even though i got t4 weapon and boots on randle he doesnt have enough survivability
Is Jerome a good buffer?
like the rest of my heroes just get melted
Put Ashem infront of Randle so he’s protected?
is m+ or asc1* the breakpoint cause i thought knox was supposed to be this crazy solo clear and hes lowk ahh
ill try, thank you 🙏
Not sure about your colls, but hopefully you beat it soon! You’ll have stages where it’s just more chill to afk for RC resources
Asc is furniture, Asc1* is where you unlock graving. M is where you unlock item
Yeah he’s really amazing at 40960. Seems like the clear was with M+
E60 is the early game breakpoint
no according to @crystal apex you want to ask 15 people to get mixed opinions before doing any invest
So i should hold on to my resources?
You’re so butthurt lol
dont ask me im apparently so selfish that i only think about my self
Just say yes or no bro idc about personal beef
I never said anything like that, I honestly suggest a good guild. Aim for the best guild you can manage, you’re more likely to get quality answers from peers around your same investment.
Yes or no to my question?
He dragged me into a question I am not qualified to answer. I am not gunna try to mislead you based on him being some butthurt psyco.
early game you should be careful who you si20 because gold emblems are very hard to get
only do heroes you're using
you just awnsered that exact same question and said im dumb for awnsering it
I never once answered his question.
Im using Mira and Atheus both are on my team
u said im wrong so you gotta know something
So should i make them both SI20?
i wouldn't do atheus personally but mira yes
si20 is basically free you can do everyone si20 you use
Sure
just think if you have someone higher prio comming up
fawkes
honestly not really, even when buying the emblems from store every day it's still hard to si20 everyone
You missed the point entirely, you were misleading by saying who they picked didn’t matter too much cause si20 were easy to get. That’s not true anymore. I get you hate being wrong, but stop taking it out on me. lol
gold emblems are a pain to get
im not wrong :p
Tell yourself that while everyone else says otherwise buddy.
within 2-3 months you can have more si20 than m heroes
yeah cause you're not supposed to get heroes just to mythic
i have my 2 month acc to prove it and wha do you have? empty words from someone who played early game 5 years ago
Si unlocks at m, never said get m heroes
It’s almost pointless to argue with you, cause you’re too self absorbed dude. You think you’re the shit, but your attitude is just shit.
Mira Si20 done
p2w account? gem balance is negative
Now horadin abit
wich means i have more a heroes and less resources still got all si20
and you dont even know me to judge it, i know early game well enough to advice people
Yet you cannot drop it when you have one bad take, so should anyone ever believe you?
How can anyone even take this seriously. All I see is a bunch of money spent and refunded so this isn’t F2P, or even close.
they should because you cant help them and they clearly need help
I wasn’t even the first one to point out it was a bad take, just agreed with it. Yet you’re here grilling only me, stop being such a looser. Ima go do something else.
Holy child behavior
im shooting against you bcs you didnt quewstion my take you questioned my person
why is this even being taken to lineup help
Idk…
genuine childish behavior
😭 -150k gems LoOk WhAt I aChIvEd In 2 mOnThS 🤡
whole lotta refunding right there
Dubs i can make Raine 1 star asc lol
Mostly it’s for Artifact Fragments, but it does have some blue summons for food and poes.
blue summons?
magic book and barricade artifacts are nice to have
That like not even 100€ btw🤣
Whats that 😭
oh yeah poe coins also
magic book gives the hero wearing it 300 energy at the start of the battle, it's a mage artifact
barricade gives the highest combat rating hero a cheat death every 18 seconds, it's a tank artifact
Couldve just hide it and say im f2p no one wouldve doubt thats so im just being transparent basically
Bro aint f2p
Yeah, blue stones. They just summon rare heroes you can fuse together for fodder.
ohh thats what you mean
Wich i never said i am
Send me some few bucks then :d
Imagine refunding 100€
Welp i didn’t spend more than that so not more to refund
Mhm nah id rather give it to some homeless ppl
Im homeless
Then i keep spending it on afk arena
And all gems you generate will be lost until it’s 0 and you tell others their acc is cooked while you can’t even spend gems for a year now 🤣 fever dream
What 💀😭
I can make my acc 20k spend on thats a valid achievement no?
Just few bucks so i can unlock Elthara thats all i need fr
Have another acc too make up for it
Mhm nah i think i prefer seeing you suffer
You can actually trade your gems for resources that way, its not a good valued trade but if you have too manny diamonds its a way
And then how can i trust people
Mmm idk maybe refer to the guides
(People made them if you belive it or not)
I mean i wouldnt give money to randoms ig you got a point
Mhm maybe you should
Well im a kind soul so maybe
Its honestly kinda adorable how some people react if you give them 2-5€ while its basically nothing for your self it means 1-2 days food for them
Being a good person never hurts
Not a topic for this channel tho so I’m gonna continue my sleep
Im not, it doesnt hurt either
😭
Still people can read my guides and be happy
idc tho i just make them when im bored af
I think i'll just focus on my awakened heroes and my main carries and hope for the best
And i think i'll focus on Rosaline, Athalia, Rowan gweynth and leviathan
None of them are used much, even less so if the Athalia you're talking about, is not awakened, be very careful with your hero build focus because unless you spend to solve your missing hero problems, what you build will have a longlasting impact on your ability to compete, or even accompolish anything such as campaign progression
The athalia is awakened, I've made it to ch 20 alr went from 18 to 20. I might hit a wall soon
You're not considering using the campaign guides to build and push with the recommended heroes? They make pushing to 31 much easier and with less effort
I've changed some things around but it seems like I'm way past that so I'll play it as best as I can while trying to follow the guides
Chapter 20 and not willing to start over, sooner or later you’ll feel the mistakes. But if few experienced people tell you that start over is the best option you got and you still want to stick to this account, your choice but the wall will come sooner and harder.
i would recommend to either play your own way, build cool looking heroes and make your own interesting teams, or to start over and follow the guides to get the fastest progressions
doing half/half is just about the worst option, since you will hit the biggest progress wall since you just don’t get any resources at some point
can’t rank in TS, TR, and later on NC. takes ages to get all the misty valley and temporal rift rewards etc etc
best bet is to make sure you know what you’re doing, then start again on the newest server and ch31 is very achievable in about 5 days without elthara, and 3 days with
I'll stick to what's working atm and see if I need to work over again or not
I'm stuck at 31-56 can't beat it for 2 days, was even able to get to 220 instead of 200, but that still wasn't enough to push me over. I can win first wave with Elthara+Ivan and 3 ransoms, but 2nd wave just doesn't budge. If I was able to use Ivan on 2nd wave it would be easy, but I can't get past the 1st one if I don't use him... I checked the formations but the ones that are able to beat it are either way overleveled or have AFawkes or something else. Attaching my roster, any help would be appreciated
I also have an E Liberta would that make any difference?
the second team should be totally fine with just using knox as a carry at this point, especially once you get his e60 if you’re close to that
Sadly not close :/ still need 2 copies for A* and not even close to having enough red emblems:(
what do others at this stage use?
played around with the formations and was able to somehow win the first stage without Ivan, 2nd one was easy with Randle + Ivan. As for what the others were using it was AFawkes, APippa and other combinations that I have but at higher tiers, like M+ Jerome, Gorren or Gorok (not sure if their sig items make a difference, they probably do)
but it's good now 😄 thanks for engaging, Grumble!
diabolically overleveled
you're 40-60 levels too high for this chapter you should be able to easily win
just copy popular formations
np!
I get it but popular formations had heroes that I do not have so that's why I was asking
Can i ask what are the 10 wishlist for Furnitures as a new player? Seems hard to find a sample
Hello @wanton widget,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
this is a lovely guide made by Benno. you can leave on knox until 9f if you’d like
Sorry wrong question
hm?
May i ask if its worth wasting my Time emblem as a new player or should i just save those?
And who might be good for 1 copy if pulling is ok
Hello @wanton widget,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
it’s detailed in =te
Woke Prios and TE income:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
=te
Woke Prios and TE income:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
Not sure about the guide. But will read it again later. Thanks
basically just pull fawkes first, can pull as you go. save 480 TE before pulling next one
Oh ok. So he replaced Ashemira place then
yes, he brings more immediate camp/TS value and hes relevant in all three RGM’s
Ok thanks alot dude. Will do
Hey guys, should I invest on liberta or maybe envydiel?
depends on your heroes, but you can see the recommended progression in =te and =sgprio
Woke Prios and TE income:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
=wishlist
So it comes to what Aw heroes i got?
just generally what heroes. the recommended woke priority is fawkes > envydiel > ashemira > aestrilda
and cele/hypo is knox > dae > aure > lib it seems
=sgprio
Stargazing Priorities:
Already got Lysander and Dae 😭
I feel like I’m buggin, my Knox has a better coll and si 20 the only difference is gear, he got t3 and I got reg mythic
The t3 is for Ashem tho not Knox
Yeah the gear is the difference , it gives a lot of raw stats
Ight
envydiel is working very well for my current lineup atm, so maybe i'll stick with him until i get those heroes?
what do you mean? do you have him ascended yet
have no clue what this man’s progression is. can you send you heroes?
that looks like quite an old account. i might sadly have to recommend checking out =returning and considering restarting on the newest server
he plays for fun
then i’d recommend fawkes for sure!
hey guys how y’all doing
i just switched from companion to classic mode and i wanted you guys to tell me how is my early game compo for now : and yes i know i got lucky getting lan so early in the dragon isle 😅
Alright so needing some help. I know level and probably rank wise I’m over Chapter 35, but I’m struggling a lot in said chapter. I can’t do popular formations due to missing heros. 1st team is my only semi-properly built one. Otherwise the other 4 have just been mismatching until I win. Also included the Celestials on their own since they don’t show up on the main pic since most are level 1’s.
saitama e30 protects frontline allies, should use him with a carry in front
Ah. He be only +20 for me rn so I’ll upgrade him. Got enough resources.
Correction. I do not have enough apparently.
he meant engraving not signature item
you already have the thing that protects allies
Oh yeah duh that he did. Hm gonna need to play around with him a bit cause he just ends up dying pretty fast on me.
Progressing slowly but surely into ch30 are there any other character I can focus on to make the campaign a little more bearable?
Randle, Ivan, Atheus
rlly dont recommend returning on old server but anyways randle ivan mira atheus rem shuna jerome alvida knox (stargaze) gorok elthara (dragon highborn)
Whos the best 1 copy to summon in time emblem?
Ashimera or Afawkes? Wasting my first batch of emblems for utility
afawkes
Ok thanks . Fawkes then
Is getting Shaltear as first Dim good? And what does she provide
Or is renting rem as first dim is the better
=tierlist
Looking for a Tierlist?
Tierlists are generally quite untrustworthy in this game, because there's too many nuances and different factors that make certain heroes good or bad for different accounts. As a general guide, use the links below:
- 4 Faction Heroes:
=wishlist - Celestials/Hypogeans: #994913771598389318 message
- Awakened Heroes: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
- Dragons/HB: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235, But generally avoid them in the early game
=guide
At the bottom middle, garrison
So Shaltear is the new trend at garrison early game then. Thanks
Yep. And Rem moved down to 2nd tier which added Laios.
Hot dang. 30 TE wasted still no first Awake
40 avg
im on s1190 just started last week but didn't want to completely abandon the original, so I appreciate the advice
Should I keep this lineup early game (reines getting sacrificed later on)
The general idea is if you can pass with a comp you just stick with it until you can't, then you make changes, it's not rocket science
But you can only find out by actually using the comp and try passing
AFawkes new Prio instead of Ashem?
Gotchu
Recent updates after many tests, have shown that Fawkes offensive capabilities, is a lot more impactful than Shemira's time tested ability to keep teams alive and still do decent damage
If you have not started building an awakened yet, Fawkes is the best place to start, if you're already in progress of finishing Shemira, then finish her first
Thanks!
actually great advice
Any idea for comp here? I only need middle star but always at begining Zaphrael one shot 3 my heroes and bc of him I wasted 16 challenges already ://
Nvm stage is bugged I made 3 stars and didnt counted
=unlock
When Does X Unlock?
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1076492667065745459
I left a lot at 1 and 2* and just came back a few months later and 3* them all
Pretty much yes
Gotcha
If you die switch randle and mira sometimes it works out
Anyone got a new ghoulish gallery guide ?
Ill keep running randle for sure. Might replace mira though
Nah run mira
I gotta replace someone when I garrison
Which should be today. I'm 7 stones off
talimar or raine
Raine is my fodder I was gonna use her on another lightbearer, but I can just sub out lightbearer entirely
No?
You never use a hero on the wishlist as a fodder 😭
I ripped 8 copies of her nearly in a row, I didn't even want her. I was planning on junking her
No bro you need to make her 1 star asc or only asc not sure
So keep her?
YES 😭
Not on the wishlist tho if you can make her asc or asc 1 star idk if she needs 1 star
So now that shes L+ i can take her off wishlist?
Ok she needs 8 copies only so you are glkd
Ye all 8 copies I used to get her up to L+. So i can just leave her
Not L+ asc bro
don't use l+ ascended tier heroes to ascend other heroes
if you get a hero to l+ might as well get them to ascended
Yeah ill asc her later. I'll just leave her for now
I suppose ill asc her. Later down the line though
=beasts
Beasts
Any tips on who I should ascend?
Check the guide: 1 more food L+ > delevel Jerome and level that food to 141 + saveas > 180 randle and Ivan. Don't do heroes wo 8 copies
I know i’m incredibly new, but what would my best early game team be? I got some new units and read up the beginner guide infographic, it said about using wukong until rem is that still correct in this case?
=guide
you want to garrison shuna or shalltear first, rem is no longer considered priority.
can use wu kong up until lvl100 if you have him, but make sure to level the fodder heroes as shown in the guide
Alright will do, do you know what sort of team comp i should run then? Or is who i have and where i’m at pretty inconsequential right now?
yea, it doesn’t really matter until you unlock randle and ivan, or elthara
Alright, thanks for the advice Grumble
no problem!
#2 cs
lmaoo
Cant beat dubbsy
can’t beat khuaa #1 CSS
Ill be #2 css if youre my #2 cs

Wait so don't get rem anymore? Even early?
is there a world where i go envy instead of afawkes first?
envy needs big supports to work, whereas fawkes just works
hence why he’s the better pick first
that makes sense thanks
You will eventually
if u have saitama then go envy
well there's quite a lot of supports that you can get early that work with envy
I've built envy first. I'm satisfied with him xD
definitely, but those supports could also make their own teams in camp, and fawkes is just very strong in his own which is exactly the thing you need for early camp
is fawkes bis for any end game content?
rgms
TS, CR, Abex, Rift, etc.
alright so im gonna need fawkes and envy anyways
good for early/mid NC as well
i wasn't just talking about early camp, in there, both envy and fawkes are very good solo carries, but also rgms
the point is that you’re getting both anyways, so the choice between who first is about immediate camp/tower value since you don’t get far in TS at one woke
Any pro here? Please guide me how to properly Grit. As of now i wasted 1 Grit and i still have 47 days left.
Too soon to tell but avoid making M early
Especially when u ascended Naroko who is pretty…
Ok ill be back after few days left. Yeah i regreted her, also struggling to Ascend her because of no copies dropping
=wishlist
stuck on 34-24
Wheres your elthara
Wheres your mira 
Wheres your knox 
=earlymulti what is it with ppl garrisoning joan de arc or r they buying with lab coins
i have knox no luck on mira still epic+ and no luck with eithara
U played for 3 months how do u have no copies of mira and elthara
i have 4 miras
Im pretty sure u get 1 DI every week
im telljng u shes been on my wl for so long
Combined with 60 pity from odysseus im pretty sure u should have her alr
who's tamrus also this look snew!?! ALso hai @pale kettle
I've progressed tow chapetrs since we last saw each other!!
nvm tamrus is the bushy whip braid guy
Lol
Vewy nice 
how many DI does it usually take to get etheria?
50 - 70
shi 💀
What is the best for me to make me alwys win with these heros
this is classic pls refer to #companions-questions
Will it be worth it to garrison dracula during an event?
dimensional exchange always come before garrisoning, you can put numbers on a calculator to calculate if u can manage both
I need help with my lineup in afk arena
any suggestions for campaign ?
Yeah but what I meant was if the dracula is worth doing 😅
Worth it or not, dim exchange should always be prioritized
Thank you!
Hey
I got skylan 1st try, doubt it was worth
So as rem is delayed in order, should I use new hero together with shuna in place of rem?
=guide
1 copy prob gon help a tiny bit in TS, small boxes benefit from accidents a lot
i guess but i wouldnt know how to build a team around skylan ykyk?
I got Lan 1cp once and that increased my wr by 5%
well #treasure-scramble exists
yea ig but i dont really ask for help haha
I just look at = and figure things out for myself
I figured the new dracula would help me in soren and it did
I swapped jerome for dracula, hit 51b, then swap drac for skyland got 12b then swap to jerome again, got 12b
Dracula singlehandedly got me 3-4 times my current best score
:3
=unlock
When Does X Unlock?
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1076492667065745459
Can anyone help me
I’m new
I know i answered this but is that arabic 
Yeah?
Aight 👍
Idk im bored 
So is rem still the person i should garrison asap or has it changed? I remember last time i had a question something was mentioned ahout this
Damn i got impatient and picked rem haha, what makes Shalltear superior? Is it not worth that early game guide to be updated then?
1st its not to bad rem and shuna are both good and theres not tooo much of a difference. 2nd the guide is updated
Ah okay, that's what the guy said, just the person I had replied to had said Shalltear is now the updated one to go for which I couldn't see
Shalltear is good later too, rem is only good for early stuff
She falls off
should you garrison 2 heros each month? or twice on one hero
If they have more than 30 days you cannot garrison again. Do two at once
Thats not 100% accurate and it would not change the prio because later on you have both anyways
rems fallin
Wouldn’t get rem nowadays tbh.
wouldnt be surprised that dracula replaces her completely
That’s hilarious
Bro you didn’t even played between ch40-76 by yourself wdym 
where to find wishlist
=wishlist
Ive played 1-45 and 63-77
also your following my guides probably soo pls stop annoying me everytime i talk
aura
bro is him what can i say
What guild you in?
you rlly want to go down this road
aura
"your following my guides"
chad stuff
Just curious if I follow big houdinis guides 😭
He reinvent the game obv
Not relevant enough to worry abt
Didn’t found the guide „how to buy an account“ yet
Should i make you one? I dont have any experience but it can be that hard
So should I combine shall tear with shuna? For multi comps campaign?
=earlymulti
who to use
=earlycamp
is this not lineup help 😭
its classic lineup help. you should refer to #companions-lineup-help
what supp and sub dps should i use ? i use wukong as dps, atheus tank and palmer support
Help meee... Getting stucked
gorren + bronn > eorin + wukong
use gorok or atheus or lyca instead of bronn and simona
Gorok and lyca its better?
Oke i will try
Uuuu victory... Thankssss
nice
Can give me insight solid team for my progress in stage 23 -56, thanks beforee
=earlycamp
Aaa oke thanks...
Can't you link Dracula to one of your legendary+ heroes
Cannot
help plz
tavriel begris sion velu melion -> kregor umbriel nyla
tysm

im stuck on this damn flora, cant reach chap 37
what could be the team against her? i can beat every other team but not the flora one, with knox, awfawkes, gb team and elthara
i tried like 200 times 
Maybe just borrow a hero from friend to pass it untill you build ur heroes
you need a merc against flora
at low rc there isn't really a way to counter her properly
Legit what i just said
ok thanks
i wanted to avoid this option lol but its gon be really hard if i dont
If you have good collections that could boost your chances of passing
What would my lineup be? I’m following the early guide at the moment but am struggling a bit , currently on 13-10
So far its
Alvida
Rem
Lyca
Jerome
Dracula
i’m at 3 teams now… D; it’s getting hard
guys i joined back to the game after not playing for a year
i lwk forgot everything and idk what to do, can smbdy help me understand everything?
iv been gone for 628 days
Here is my heros. What's the first few things I should do?
I’d recommend restarting first for better results in all gamemodes, competing with a much newer playerbase
Then I’d refer u to these guides, type them in when needed =guide =earlycamp =todolist =earlymulti
Also check #faq-resources for more detailed breakdown of each aspect of the game
kk
i tried fully built abelinda, aathalia and envy merc, with my m30 afafkes but i still cant beat this damn flora
any merc recommandations?
Hey guys!! Could someone please help me create 5 teams for "temporary fracture"? 🙏 I would love to be able to reach a good level this season, but my knowledge of the teams is really bad.
40960 envy will easily beat it
40980 envy cant he gets os
you can try maybe a 40960 skylan if you have one available in your mercs
ill ask for one
Beat flora with elthara + ivan or knox
i cant use elthara + ivan or knox they're part of other teams core
but ig i could go elthara + knox and merc the knox slot
Nope 30
Not needed, can be 20 works until atleast ch42
Shoulda kept at 20 I think
i miss some experience on creating good comps against other teams with good placement also
ig i should read every skill from every hero not just my carrys
Can check formations too
For knox its not that hard
yea lol he just need to not die the first 5seconds and its usually gg
not against flora tho
What are suggested lineup for first 2 stage campaign teams?
Randle ivan team 1, elthara wilders team 2
Ty
31 2 team, 33 3 team, 35 4 team, 36 5 team?
Holy crap, so i'm close to face the wall xD
randle / elthara / celepog / awaken / rem or other dim
I'm playing for 7 days now, so i got only randle xD
if no rem 9f, rem is replaced with alvida team
Please help me grit. I have 3 Grit left and i didnt build Eorin for the event.
How many days left?
16days
Then wait, and you have zero grits to do anyways
Wdym zero grit. Is this the optimal setup?
You have one grit technically but you shouldnt do grit this early, and you actually have zero heroes
