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yeah, fawkes dont die, randles die and fawkes sometime made a 1v5 for the win, insane
i hope i can push to 26 befor reset now that randle has the t2 weapon and t1 boots
Yea he is nuts i didnt expect it lol and nice GL. Let me know how that goes because I am doing the candy crush stuff almost have 200 GB pulls and will invest in randle probably
Why is my Ivan targeting atheus even though my rem has higher attack rsting
i'm terrible in it
sometimes it does
How do I fix, it's causing my rem to die
try change the positions of the hereos
and try more times the phase, watch what the enemies are doing and try counter measures, afk battles have a little RNG, so sometimes the same config can ult a little faster or latter, try, try and try again
I YOLO pulled Fawkes first try with 8 emblem discount pull LOL so now I am just cruising through everything with the lineup AFawkes, Mira, Randle, Ivan, and Atheus.
Oh and Lvl 3 Treatspector that should be mentioned since he does like 1-3 mil dmg a battle too
that's so unlucky lmao
Could be worse
any advice on 31-4 2 comps? cant seem to find wat should my 2 lineups be
=earlymulti
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
- 2 comp: copy meta clear (everyone in the world uses randle
and rem
, you will not have a hard time finding them), and slot in missing flex supports and tanks accordingly, RBSG a little bit and you should win - 3 comp: repeat, but save specter
for knox
solo. Go for knox
+ 4 random hypo
> knox
+ E lysander 
- 4 comp : repeat, but also use bert charm 4th comp
+ E
. At this point you will probably also need ashem
with randle
to win that comp. - 5 comp: repeat, but also work out another stable comp, either some form of tank/CC + envy
, or rem
9f + E daemia
.
Problematic enemies solutions
- match with knox
or envy
.
- match with knox
+ ivan
or envy.
If you can't win against one of these two enemies no matter what, merc a big envy and it should work.
@molten raft hello bud
sup bud
Hruu
good, tired. trying to make the most of this fawkes trial
How far did you get?
about to get to ch44 from 43, took about 4 or 5 hours
Oof
hes a lot a less stable than i thought, from what i was hearing i thought it was as simple as plopping him in a formation with 4 shitters and its a free win
he needed a lot more help
Not rly, some stages yes some no
Im struggling w jds fawkes comp too
are you on his alt?
No i got nihi acc
gave it to you or just pilot?
Whats diff? Im only one playing in it
congrats bud
you still gonna play on your akaza account?
Yes i will, but theres not too much i can do rn
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I can’t beat this can someone help me
I dont know what happened (probably let auto battle on in PC), but i logged in now and i've gone up from 26-56 to 27-50, and now i'm stuck, already try all comps in "formations", tryed lyca, nara, ashemira, any advice?
you already tried putting rosaline to focus on fawkes?
Yeah she kind of just dies immediately
Its not even a boss?
nop hahaha, thats what surprised me hahaha
Show box, your not supposed to use fodder heroes
tryed fawkes on the other side or upfront?
OHHHHHH im just supposed to build them but not use them?
Try atheus in front of randle and ivan other frontline spot
Yes you just want the lvls
Remove the 2 fodders from crystal and add gorok+mira
like this?
Ye idk if that works if not try switch randle and mira
Do you have mentor yet? It gives good rewards too
this dont worked, butttt i make it works, after i swicth mira and randle and fail i switch ivan and lyca
then i won
Good
Well i can just try to give ideas xD
sollemn vow only open at 29-60, thats what we can use to get a mentor rigth?
your idea was good, but ivan dies fast when he gets out for the first time, so i try putting lyca upfront
without your idea i wouldnt win, thx
No, you need to get a mentor between ch4 and 25 at ch29-60 you can be mentor for smone else
but i'm really trying to understand how i get to ch 27-50 out of nowhere
Maybe you pushed and forgot
ahhh, i didnt get a mentor, it really appered to me, but i think noones accepted
i've putting on auto battle yesterday when i've gone shower before sleep, but in my head i was still in ch26, maybe it was the sleepiness
That’s bad, can prolly play without but it’s allot of dust and summons you miss out on
😭
I get requests from ppl server 900 but only ch 14 everyday😂😭
Like fym you play active when ur ch 14 after 3 years
yeah, i tried to get a mentor on fisrt day when it unlocks, maybe thats why no one accepted
then it never more appeared to me
Should’ve looked here or in guild servers
i only enter discord after that
Mhm
Ight I’ll go sleep
good sleep
No I do not
Any new teams for heroes of Esperia this round?
=guide
Anyone has campaign second team lineup?
=earlymulti
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
- 2 comp: copy meta clear (everyone in the world uses randle
and rem
, you will not have a hard time finding them), and slot in missing flex supports and tanks accordingly, RBSG a little bit and you should win - 3 comp: repeat, but save specter
for knox
solo. Go for knox
+ 4 random hypo
> knox
+ E lysander 
- 4 comp : repeat, but also use bert charm 4th comp
+ E
. At this point you will probably also need ashem
with randle
to win that comp. - 5 comp: repeat, but also work out another stable comp, either some form of tank/CC + envy
, or rem
9f + E daemia
.
Problematic enemies solutions
- match with knox
or envy
.
- match with knox
+ ivan
or envy.
If you can't win against one of these two enemies no matter what, merc a big envy and it should work.
=wishlist
You get the rewards as missed rewards if you skip it. As an apprentice gets points, you also get points and rewards. It’s actually faster to get it that way.
Okay, good to know actually, its prolly still easier to just be apprentice than to rely on someone else to be active
anyone with a bit of time I kind of dont know how to proceed now with my teams
:p
im at 5 team comps and ofc i have dedicated carry for everyone of them but it seems that its not enough even tho they are FINE engraving wise and equip wise but still sometimes randle team jsut gets annihilated before he starts his shenannigans and so on is there lke a list of usable champs to go with randle then for rem and so on ? im now using w/e i have and Ascended tier // nieche guys like Brutus // Lyca and so on
T1 = randle
T2 = Knox
T3 = Rem
T4 = AShemira
T5 = Liberta
Send ss of your teams and Ivan needs to be with rem for her to carry try and get envy up and running garrison shuna use Jerome with Randel just make sure he’s SI20 tho trishea is good as well with Randel if you’re struggling as she can reduce the enemies damage. Si20 gorok is nice too since his ult comes out when he does and it puts a nice shield on everyone. This is my Randel team I just put random units in and mess with my comps if I get stuck or try swapping them around it’s super rng a lot of the time
ty for suggestion ill see what i cna manage to scrape up 😄
Np man good luck! I found a useful image for campaign teams I don’t remember if I got it from the afk arena Reddit or here but it could be useful as a baseline for people
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What’s the best lineup I could I be running with this for early game campaign. I’m kind of stuck at 7-30 rn and was wondering if switching out anybody would help or if I just need levels
=earlycamp . Do you already set wishlist like the guide?
Yes, I’m not asking for the perfect comp, I want to know best with what I have.
Gorren alvida tali anything works . Gorren and alvida is some stall unit till u get randle
Should I run all those or choose one. And over wukong?
You don’t rly have room to choose with so little amount of heroes
I feel like my questions getting misunderstood. I’m just wondering with what I have, what is the best 5 hero team I could build
The point is that it doesnt matter too much, until you have randle and ivan you cant use the best comps for campaign he said goren alvida tali, just slot wokung and and palmer or atheus to it and try
Early game best chance to try too learn the game its gonna be hard to play if you get every step from other ppl from the beginning
Try to read and understand the guides
Alrighty 😛
At some point its always just copy lowest clear but at the start you can try to find a clear on ur own thats lowkey the most fun part of the game
Yeah I get what u mean. I just didn’t want to waste gems swapping heros around
I read all the elite hero’s skills I got to get it the team I have now to try and make a team that makes sense. I just know descriptions aren’t always reflective of actual performance
You dont need to read all of it
just make sure you team has a dps, in ur case wokung, 1-2 tank (atheus for example) and sups like Jerome, palmer, tamrus idk you can try allot, resetting heroes is pretty cheap and when you get randle and ivan you will see that the game gets much easier and the only criteria to push is to lvl up those two as high as possible
👍🏾
Yea u dont which one the best
If u dont try it too but yea all the good point mentioned by Benno
Eventually he will reach ch31 and feel like all the progress he made is worthless😭
Yea if u stuck at tutorial how to play early game with 5 team 
The multi command here kinda reserved for bug whales
Even at ch38 i can only use 4 of the teams😂
Thats called wall 
Im pumping my head so hard against that wall that i can progress through
Im on it
busy with big acc anyways

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What is Garrison?
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256
Oh no
i am at the beginning so which hero should i put in? after i ascend them to legendary + and got lvl 160
i have 3 places... idk which is the best comp from them for the beginning
Who should I upgrade next? I'm at chapter 24
Randle to M+
Simona to A
Mira to A
Bronn to A
Randle first
Kinda sad your missing alot of copies
Unlucky with my pulls
Gonna be okay
Randle > mira > simona > bronn
Thank you!
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A
Anyone has any idea about how can I beat this? I'm already trying for 2 days
I've ascended Randle today and put Mira L+, already tried with AShemira, Nara, Lyca, Rem, Palmer and Liberta, in several different ways
Im new to the game and this is all I have so far. Anything good or worth using?
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im new too but i am very sure these units ar ethe priority
#companions-questions =companions
It’s not the cassic server
=guide
=wishlist
Yeap
Their other channels are pretty dead.
What hero is a healer ?
U can check from their skill page
Thats right but healer sucks when everyone one shot you
any suggestions for t3? t1 is randle and ivan, t2 is rem and shuna. only the t3 cant clear the stage
Try nara or kelthur to pull that safiya or try use simona too along with ashem
Can you show randle team too?
it's not working
Try to give gear maybe just afk if still stuck
Id say you can use ivan in t3 and tru to work out a way to get randle working without him
T3 should be smth like ivan, mira, palmer, jerome, alvida
And then t1 atheus, gorok ashem misha randle
its works, thank you
Goated Benno 
does t1 work too?
yeah it works, im at 33-60 rn and my rem team is the problem
uh
have you got right rem coll?
this is my comp and yes both rem and abrutus has +1 cover
try normal brutus if you have
shes still dying with 3 star barticade and lvl 6 talismane
lemme see if i still got my ch 33 clear
sure, gonna try vatious pos for rem if it works or try to use mira/ivan if they can clear t2
show all fights, and pick easiest for rem, mira ivan should be your most stable team
i had alot more heroes i can use ngl
i tried a bunch of pos for rem and mira but miras comp cant clear it. im gonna auto battle it with the best pos of rem for now
its allot trying with smol box at the start
i had much more i can just give you the ideas of my comps
just reach ch 34, thank you for the comp
unlock better heroes, =todolist
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
- Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use ivan + randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
- AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- Repeat steps 8-10 until they hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
looks like you were diabolically unlucky with your summons
goddamn dawg 💔
Is this okay for a beginner line up?
Or you guys have better ideas for other heroes? Or other Positions?
Lvl up mira instad of eorinn
These are All heroes i have
And prolly gorok will to better than tamrus early on
Okay
pretty good rng
Thanks
im new to classic how do guilds work? what important about it. are guilds same server or any server?
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just a quick question regarding the comp. why does ivan possess palmer if i change mira pos. like ivan only possess mira if shes at pos1 and ivan at pos 5
Mira probably to low power and if different placement palmer dies quick enough im not sure
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=colls
=campaign
Hi,
Is Lan (draconic) feasible as solo healer for a generic lineup? Got her s30e60f9
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it belongs to the lineup?
are alvida and atheus a good tank line up in the front row?
seems good, kinda belongs to the backline too
i have palmer in the back in the middle gorok left and randle right
palmer works kinda good with alvida
but i guess for my luck i am not even far in the campaing with lvl 120 heroes
close to chapter 10
nah ur chilling
no need to rush
=colls
What changes should I make to my to Heroes of Esperia lineup? I have AAthalia, ASafiya, Lysander, Hildwyn and Serenmira but no Materia, Lucius or Leviathan.
All in one day ngl. Minimal effort great rewards 🤧
=coll
=colls
Some call me hero, others call me hat
wow
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=wishlish
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what should i do the with them pulled them randomly
Play as you normally would, wouldn’t change much as of now
if you have randle you can do shuna first, if you lack a carry rem
most likely rem first since you dont use shuna without rem
ok
( in the early game )
Try using 5 heroes
How the f are you at ch 37 w so manny build celepo and rc 350
I was using Rimsru and swapping between Bron and thoran
Haven't pushed in awhile
Plus I was a decent spender
You should be much further, you took a break to no?
Yes
Mhm have you read =returning ?
Yes
I have a new account and this one
I feel like with the right team setup I can I least get a few chapters
That's what I have and I got a bunch of fodder as well
Uh i remember
This is what i used for ch37 you prolly can do alot better with what you have
Am I able to beat 39? Team 5 had a Trial Fawkes previously. But I still couldn't beat it before
You build your teams in a weird way tbh and you need knox a* then you gonna get through easily
Yeah I honestly have like 0 clue how to build teams
=earlymulti
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
- 2 comp: copy meta clear (everyone in the world uses randle
and rem
, you will not have a hard time finding them), and slot in missing flex supports and tanks accordingly, RBSG a little bit and you should win - 3 comp: repeat, but save specter
for knox
solo. Go for knox
+ 4 random hypo
> knox
+ E lysander 
- 4 comp : repeat, but also use bert charm 4th comp
+ E
. At this point you will probably also need ashem
with randle
to win that comp. - 5 comp: repeat, but also work out another stable comp, either some form of tank/CC + envy
, or rem
9f + E daemia
.
Problematic enemies solutions
- match with knox
or envy
.
- match with knox
+ ivan
or envy.
If you can't win against one of these two enemies no matter what, merc a big envy and it should work.
And for Knox I have like 100 Stargazing for him
Not enough
Boutta pass floor 420 😼
420 achieved
is E selene more useful than E daemia?
E selene helps that team she kinda needed there dae idk if she even works at e
He does have rem 9f i dont
Hi guys, I've Legacy of Grit that's about to end in 12 hours or so. Anything you'd recommend swapping? I've three swaps left (and I'm F2P).
Show full box sorted by factions
Sure thing, here it is
Foes anyone know why i cant scrow up here
Odin for mira
Ah, that makes sense yeah. I've Rem linked to Odin but I'll figure it out. Thanks!
help im stuck i tried everything switching positions
Please help
What do you mean
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any suggestions for 4 comp with this box? just reach ch 35 and i only have 3 teams. randle/ashem, rem/shuna and ivan/mira
Need to wait for Knox or try alot ur box kinda small
si30 randle too
Yea can def do that, wont help the 4th team tho

suggestion for 3 teams?
what 2 teams you used?
randle ashemira, rem with ivan
can you garison shuna?
I do have enough resource for her rn just that should i be using my challenegr and labyrinth coins?
mhm i dont think so
have you got rem coll by now?
only one i got thats +1
without ivan with her, she just dies instantly and rarely ever ults
have you tried her w gorok, atheus tamrus and jerome?
its supposed to
something like this?
youll have to see if it works, idk how rem supposed to work this early without shuna
yeah still dying too fast, only option ig is to wait for sg card and get knox to mythic
dont think that helps alot, youll need hero coins and guild coins for shuna ig
i have already redeem all my hero coins
guild coins then, you might need some lab coins but you dont wanna use them too much
for lab coin, we buy joan of arc right?
ye i think so
also who do i get from misty valley chest? its ending soon for me
whoever you need
I have 3 t4 chest but I have no idea who to use it on. Do I just go all out on randle?
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Help, I can't seem to beat this stage. I've tried for so long...
Everyone using Thoran cheese, 1 is using AEironn. I left it on auto battle for 15min with Thoran cheese but he just won't win
I can help! Can you show me your 5 team lineup so I can see what you have already used?
Is there anything I should change in my lineup? I’m currently at the start of chapter 8
Also is this worth it?
since you play on companions server take a look at #companions-chat to get proper help
Ah okay thank you
Any suggestions on line ups I have tried swapping places for 4th and 5th teams. Is there a different line up I should be using should I swap characters from other teams or replace them with heroes that aren't in teams yet? Lmk please
holy random ah comps
seems to be the most random one :p
Really ? Lmfao that works like a charm for me
he shouldnt need all of ur supports
Okay so take out who Ivan and Palmer? Or
if possible ivan, and tryna make more use of the faction bonusses
What team is liberta usually in?
charm
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What about knox? Does he just pairs with 4 random hypo? At least earlier on like ch 33
3 random hypo and lysander
i use him in ashem seal
I’m on chapter 30 what do I need to start focusing on ?
ask in questions bro
- read =guide
- stop ascending heroes before 8 copies
- dont pull for eny first
- get knox
- ivan si30
- restart
Ty
Is this not lineup help
not rly
=tr
The restart at the end got me ngl 😭
Hahaha
Sorry for a late response as I didn't notice that you replied. But I actually beat the stage after trying different comps the whole day
oh nice 
As a new player I need to upgrade fodder so my epic heroes can overcap right?
Hello @modern dagger,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
Yes
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I need some help progressing I’m stuck on 25-10 and floor 289 what should I focus on to progress, I also have a swap scroll.
=returning
Sup people
New to the game.. is there a place I can get new player guides
I checked youtube.. but looks like different set of heroes
And what would you suggest I do to make progress easy
refer to #classic-questions, and be sure to read =quickstart and related commands
Quickstart Directory
New to the game? Here's some commands to resources which help you onboard!
Frequently Asked Questions=faqGeneral Guide=guideWishlist=wishlistCampaign 101=campaignTerminology=termsBeginner Todolist=todolistDiamond Priorityhttps://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1139293511695482972Resource Generating Modes=rgmSpending Guidehttps://ptb.discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828
For more commands and other resources, check out the pins! (scroll down a little bit)
Can I get help creating good teams for HoE ?
https://imgur.com/a/rsDPwsZ
=guide
It doesn't really help me
I dont think it was meant for you
its meant for newbies
=todolist
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
- Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use ivan + randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
- AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- Repeat steps 8-10 until they hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
=wishlist
Is there a wishlist guide for the draconis heroes
how early are you?
just unlocked it
then dont worry abt it just safe all scrolls you can get
What should my team be?
lol just lvl up randle and slot 4 random heroes w him
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=guide
later on yea but prolly gonna take months until you pull him
=terms
Is Daimon the best carry that I have?
=collls
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I really need help badly to proceed
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you dont need to chase faction bonus
It kind helps ngl
i still think unit > bonus
My comps are heavily build on bonuses and they all work
i get those when they happen, but if not ideal then i dont chase it]
Hm i think they’re pretty useful
=merc
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
read this
we atheus at the back now?
sht I need that pink girl?
no im exploring sht up just like what I did on previous stages by changing positions
its okay now All I need was the shield artifact on trials xD
Early on pair rem with Ivan
who to pair with randle
Ashem and filler units like nara Brutus gorren
Just make it so Randle can solo while Ivan is saved for rem
got no ashem bro
get her
Get shuna then and rem collection you cant just say the comps doesnt work if theyre used on 100s of accounts buddy
oh my bad that mf means “my fuqing”
didnt say nothing abt “comps doesnt work” bla bla bla sht gitgud
i know
do you have shuna, do you have right cover, do have any supps for missing components
None
how is rem supposed to work then buddy
Thats why im here, no?
you got two example teams in my very special guide and you need shuna to make her work longterm anyways
I lack something which is 1 only and thats shuna and im on the earliest stage 31, and maybe “not a brain ded spender” can help me proceed even a little
aint this channel is for?
put mira with ivan in second team
Okay thank you, you talked too much u have the solution yet talked too much, dont be fancy next time
there are multiple solutions and the easiest is to get shuna
how can twin complain abt receiving good advice 🥀
Thats why I came here, no?
im trying to figre out ill let you know when i have awnser
I didnt complain, I lack the resource of getting shuna, u guys gon pay for me? if so ill accept it
cant pay2win hero/lab coins
LMAO
hero coins maybe but no lab er guild coins
33-40 buddy is speedrunning holy shi
yea
thats why I came here, wont come here If I got the hero lol ik how to follow a guide, just hoping not some brainded who plays the game can give me an answer
did it work?
yes
LMAO
ch 35 when?
lemme know what comps ur rocking twin
you want ss of them ?
if theres something unusal, i dont need ss of my own comps
1st team is randle mira atheus , second is rem ivan and selene , 3rd knox
the other two units in the comps swap hella till it works 🥀
What you recon is the best arena comp i can put up?
yeah rem insta dies in 99% of stages
1 or 3 teams?
i noticed too
1 team
check coll
I use this but i didnt change it in ages
Cheers btw youre a legend ty for awnsering all my dumb questions
i think im just the only one chilling on dc 24/7
As new player what hero can I use for lab and those type of battles? I try to use rem, 1 tank and 1 healer and 2 cc
Hello @modern dagger,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
=earlycamp if you just need one team
I can use same comp in peak of time and lab?
For modes where you can use mercs just get a big w atha and let her solo everything
But you can use that one too its just big waste of time
I appreciate the reminder to finish my lab tho
Which is the waste of time
Using normal team
Just use big merc and let it solo its so much faster
Ohhh I didn't know that.
Thats literally what i said before
Yeah but never used those terms so all of that is new xd
Sorry
Rem falls off evebtually
I just started and im on chapter 10. Any advice on a better campaign team?
please tell me you didn't use time emblems to pull for talene
No i just pulled it on normal scroll
Relatively new to the game. What's the best team i can make with what I've got?
You need Ivan and randle, you can try if selene carries or mira so team would probably be something like atheus gorok mira selene and thalene or smth like that
Dont ascend heroes to legendary you never wanna do that, should still be possible to push just by leveling up randle atp tho
Oh okay I'll keep that in mind, can I ask why?
You don’t get alot of fodder heroes in the early game so you want to keep it together until you can make ascend heroes, even if you decide you wanna bulls randle you might get rly lucky with ivan and then you shouldve kept your fodder + the difference in power between epic, legendary and mythic is barely notable, the only exceptions are Ivan and randle theyre fine at mythic everyone else should sit at epic out epic plus until 8/4 copies
Ohh okay thanks
But what about when I run out of storage space? @thick thorn
Wont happen that quick ^^
ah okay thanks mate
Ascend fodder tho, dont keep everyone blue =guide just follow this and ur good
okay i somewhat understand what its saying about the ascended fodder, but does that mean we should be using the fodder as carries?
No, you want them to be lvled up and put the heroes you want to use in the crystal bcs its easier doing fodders l+ is much more worth it than ascending other heroes to legendary +
ohh okay thanks, so putting heroes in the resonating crystal can bypass their level limit?
Yes, except fodder heroes they will stay lvl 160 even if you have 1200 crystal lvl
gotcha tysm!
Theyre pretty useless when it comes to fighting anyways soo its not rly a big loss😂🫡
😂 fair enough
oh also @thick thorn would u mind explaining what the S130 priority means?
who u take to si30 first
ohhh okay thanks'
Any ideas how to figure this shi?
maybe try estrilda instead of lyca
Ive put palmer it did work idk why but yeah i guess
Keep switching alot
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get cover2
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@brave wagon cook for me please, i firmly believe I could get a few chapters higher than I am rn, was clearing absolutely fine during aFawkes release but after losing him seal team feels much worse and kinda stuck. Box linked, sorted by SI
Currently sat at the start of ch60
All other formations visible have thoran and mira cheese, no one appearing with similar power to me
hmm you have skylan, no wei, no askri/abel
I have abel
abel next to envy
oh i see her, lol I'm blink
okay I want you to test if zohra burst still works
if she still works it's super easy
if not it's fine
um zohra burst is
atheus tamrus ivan lan zohra + specter
make sure lan has highest atk so that ivan latches unto her. Having ivan + zohra is more bursty, but less stable than lan ult cycle
see if that wipes.
if that doesn't do enough damage to win, we know that zohra burst doesn't work
it should in theory work until like mid 64-66 something like that
Is there any specific col requirements?
just MP storm on zohra
atheus run IS (try watch and none watch, the timing is different, not necessartily better or worse)
Should be fine? Or do i want a lvl3?
rainbow
lan atk, ivan fatk/atk, tamrus +1 cover IS
it's fine
honestly not using a colelction is fine lol, but obviousyl mroe damage is better
yeah zohra burst can't deal with trishea/zohra burst enemies, or flora/tasi
since you're later on, zohra is going to be one of the comps you check can solve first
Yeahs gets rolled by this
ok so given roster I'd recommend
- skylan tasi cheese
- zohra burst
- ashem envy
- brrrlinda
- freeze core
I'm actually surprised you took down 4 enemies lol
Yeah it’s always just trish left there haha
mine usually just dies immedaitely if I try that against trishea
Could I get some insight to what freeze core is? I’ve honestly just always cooked my own random ass team up to this point, I have no clue on regular use cases
skyaln tasi cheese is skylan tasi twins emilia hildwin with talismane (Tasi needs T4 boots and weapon, twins too if you can afford), IS on tasi, call on twins, IS wings on emilia and hildwin, CDA blade skylan
zohra burst we just went over
uh ashem envy is pretty common sense, honestly anything works, but I found westy to be a great support
brrrlinda is alna dae abel lava jerome/rem/palmer, just pick what you want to use. If the deficit is relatively low for you, rem will give you the most stability, otherwise defaulting to jerome is pretty good.
freeze core is aurelia shuna IC, and then throw in some dps and cc supports. I like randle as the dps support on the backline, then something like knox and gorren for the frontline
oh for brrrlinda daemia needs to use book, jerome +1 fatk cover
freeze core everyone uses IS flight, aurelia uses ero storm
Nooo, i thought my ero col would finally be useful until you said storm 
solve order I'd go tasi cheese > zohra burst > freeze core > brrrlinda > ashem envy
just ero is fine
storm is better, but I mean the comp worked fine before storm came out so 
Got an ero oculus
that's fine yeah
Coolio, I’ll set all those up and then report back :)
are you like 30+?
the only one that might have trouble with is skylan tasi cheese, you kinda have to just learn th matchups, work out who to bump with hildwin
No, but half way there in my 20s
age
I think he means age 
@brave wagon team performance
The aurelia comp felt a little sketchy, and tasi worked better when i gave skylan judgement instead of blade
hmm do you have kalthin?
could try kalthin instead of gorren
freeze core works with a lot of different things, the core is just aurelia shuna IC
other 3 heroes can be whatever
Nopers, kinda skipped him entirely
you only need 1 copy
Oh then yeah
he just needs +1 cover IS
and then if he cacn not die until he does the grab thing you're basicalyl good to go
make sure you solve the comps in order though, because some comps are much less stable than others
if you find zohra burst super easy, solve that one third
Yeah tasi seems a little troublesome for now, tasi and twins seem to die super fast
make sure they have T4 weap and boots for dodge
but other than that yeah tasi cheese is just not very stable sadly
Yeah they have both each
everyone uses it later on because it's great at deficit, but you do have to fiddle with the comp a lot
skylan makes it better, but you still have to find solutions
I think I’d still rather play around with this than thoran
(like try things until something sticks)
btw do you have wei?
I didn't see him, but maybe I just missed him lol
acutally nvm that doesn't really solve anything for you
I guess stabilizes freeze a bit more, but that's abot it
to escape all the cheeses you need askri and selene as well
Nah, my wokes are in shambles, and even if we get swap event if it let’s us Draco swap then dgwyn is on the chopping block first
yeah I think a lot of people want to swap dgwyn
I kinda wish they wouldn't though, I don't have any HB to swap 
If not I’ll swap my asol into chicken or something
Also does awtha fit into tasi at all? Idk if there’s much benefit since the cheese revolves around twins buff too right?
I use awthalia on most accounts because no skylan 
but later on sometimes awthalai is better at cutting through tanky stuff than skylan
but most of the time skylan is more stable, there are just more valid solution with him than awthalia
here's a tasi cheese infographic I made explaining why the comp works and some things to look out for: https://g.co/gemini/share/99183f0a12fb
Awesome I’ll check that out thanks
im a player returning after about 2 years of inactivity. ive forgotten EVERYTHING 😭 including which characters are good. who should i keep investing in? who should i stop? what lineups should i use? and who should i aim to get?
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this is not really the response im looking for 😅 im not trying to be competitive enough for hoarding a years worth of resources to be worth it for me
well either restart then or tryna work with what you have but everything is outdated so you will struggle alot and cant compete with anyone from ur region so ur only option will be campaign and you might get overtaken by 3-6month old accs
you have ivan thats kinda the only usefull heroe from the current meta you have build properly
some heroes are decent but you lack all of the current carries
who are the newer carries? and do i have any supports for them?
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danke danke
kein problem ig
yeah hmm from your roster it seems like you played around 2021-2022?
oh but you have rem
Restart
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i got awakened lyca from the normal summons, is she good and shoudl i use for my campaign team? im like chapter 19
No, shes not rly good in the early game, normal lyca is better for the begin
Are there any sub for shuna on this team comp?
Not rly, you need another rly strong it kinda belongs to the stage were you are
I'm stuck in chap 13 progression really slow, any idea on what comp I should use?
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Who do I choose in this
=exchange should unlock reds if you get 1 hero to mythic or something?
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DIs,
Dragon Reds,
Dragon Gear,
L Totem card etc.):
Reds if less than 3 si30s
Baits before pet reso 18
Juice post pet reso 18
Otherwise, ask in chat for more information.
Copy popular formations ( you should def not struggle at all with this lineup if this is classic server )
It is classic, and I put Jerome and Palmer in and Ivan in front line and it worked
Yea well youu have better lvl then 90% of players in this stage you should be able to auto most of it if you put the default lineup
Don’t use simona or alvida put in lyca and Mira
okay i was just about to ask about mira i have the copys for her to 1* but not the fodder yet
Mira is good
do i si30 ivan or Randy first?
Ivan
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Man, just a single copy of this new Draconis is ridiculously overpowered
New hero bias kinda
Whats the best use for faction scrolls after graveborns (already have randle Ivan and mira 1 star )
wilder prolly
Ive been using randle ivan team. I have enough resources to ascend either simona, bronn or mira. Who should i prioritize?
Mira and then switch to wilder faction summons bcs simona and bronn are pretty bad
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Hello, i've came back on my main server after years and my team is a little bit outdate, what should i do with this? I'm at ch 36 rn, should i just try to get new heroes or can i get something done with what i have
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thx i will restart
Thats the best you can do yea
Why tf is Brutus so hard to beat
wait till you see flora or naroko

Every time I see him my team turns into food for him
You need to spread out ur team so he cant kill everyone while hes unkillable
Try brutus against brutus lol
Flora gonna be so much worse hahahaha

Hello I was wondering if I should built Sion because until now his results is very poorly
you just started dragons way to early i thinlk
Thx
Well he need to be 30360 to be useable and need 40960 for optimal
I begin the game and i would say who character need help
I’m on stage 10-2 so I’m almost to ch16 but I’m stuck on stage 10-2 what characters should I give up and which characters should I use to replace them that are more helpful
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Uh
Who should I garrison for dims
rem + sdhuna early game
Okay I figured shuana wasn't sure if rem was still worth it I can do one for now which one would be better
Would need 29 more for both
Rem
hi, lf mentor, pm me,
Also sorry if theres any ch for that, didnt find it
oh ty
So my second team easily wins but of course Brutus crushes my first team
have you tried swapping the teams?
Yes the first team fails both
I can't copy the recommended
Formation because they have shuna or liberta and or a shem
obviosly
Who should be my next e30
try using ghost pet
Maybe try using supports too
Run away
Bronn very bad. Joking aside, he is not a priority yes yes, do other heroes you have not yet build
Got back after 900+ days back when Eironn pull and Arthur+Gwyn were meta. Got Daimon and Scarlet from previous “i should play again”. I now need a 4th team? I have enough resources to full build +30SI 3/9 furniture 30 Engrave 2 Characters so who should I build that can work for my other heroes?
restart 😭
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Well sadly your hero too outdated
U can reach ch 35 within 2 week or 1 month with current meta
Oh yeah makes sense since im getting silver in tr lol. I actually restarted on a new server, its on 27 now and thats why i wanted to play the main again.
Hoarding until next meta thenand just play on a new server.
Ridiculously fast. My new son is already on 27 and its barely been a week
Yea no need to hoard on your old acc
U dont even have wokes built its just really out of place
Its expection if u spend like 1k usd or more to hoard in that acc . But from what i see u mostly f2p right 
wow
any tips to help my 4th team im getting cooked lol My box is pretty small so if theres not much i can do its all good.
use skylan ig and get knox and lib e60
okay i didnt know who was worth investing to e60 first, been hoarding bc the guides ive seen just said long term meta carries, which those do meet the criteria for but still wasnt sure haha
knox > lib
ok cool ty i will do that
why skyboi
Just sort of threw him in there tbh lol that 4th team I had no idea what to do with
used to play this game a lot and returned recently but i dont rly know what im doing with my heroes what things should i be focusing on or changing in my lineup
im using rem ivan atheus randle and shaltear
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Yeah my new account is 33-4 and it hit that around day 9-10.
Drastically slowing up at this point though because just don’t have enough yet for a decent third team. I’m on the edge of being able to take a bunch to Ascended though so shouldn’t be too bad
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wait how do you even get rem early
garrison
It slows down even more after ch36/37
Who to use?
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I don't have Randal, do I replace him with wukong? (Also I don't think I have a tank)
Wukong kinda only works until lvl 100 and hes kinda slow imo use him but hope you get randle soon
Also how should the level distribution between my team be?
Like all 20 levels lower then wukong? Or all into wukong
Carry and Ivan as high as possible and then the rest only as high as needed, you might get to a point where you have alot of e+ copies and cant lvl up anything but fodder then you start taking them higher evenly
And one last thing, I saw that the guide said to not make any L or M or ascended heros before making my fodder into ascended for the levels or something, but rn I can get ivan to L should I do it or wait?
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The only exception early on I would make is Randle. You can take him to M+ at 4 copies and that’s fine. There is really no need to take him or anything else other than your fodder to L+. There is virtually no real difference in their performance from E+ and L+.
One of the big reasons for this also is because you need to remember that taking anything to M+ and higher requires 2 L+ fodder so to keep your Resonating Crystal at 160 you are gonna need 2 fodder for each hero you are ascending, so you don’t want to eat up your fodder early on ascended heroes because you will be stuck at level 120 way longer and not progressing.
Thats not a good advice
If any ivan is an exception, randle doesnt need his si30 that early on
Generally you get both to a quick enough
In my personal experience the benefit to Randle to breaking 120 cap is much better than Ivan. I agree Ivan is better to ascend earlier if RC is already over 120, but at 120 I’ve found being able to take Randle over 120 first works way better
Maybe the math says otherwise, but I don’t think 160 Ivan with SI30 with a 120 E+ Randle out performs a 160 M+ Randle with a 120 E+ Ivan.
(And not realistic you are gonna have seals for SI30 at that point either)
You dont have 120 randle lol
You have 180 ivan + 160 randle
You do get enough
We are talking two different things…
Yea youre suggesting him to give no shit about the guides
Not really but ok lol
Randle m doesnt make to much sense thats the point
You get both a within 2 days🫡
We will just have to agree to disagree 🙂
Hey could you help me build some TS teams yall?
Im currently doind sth like this but I think I could do better
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- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
- Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use ivan + randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
- AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- Repeat steps 8-10 until they hit ch31
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PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
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what should i be investing into or doing i used to play a lot and recently have gotten back into this game but im pretty lost on what to do with my heroes and formation
im stuck at 31-20 rn tried switching up my formation but dont really know what heroes to put with what
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temporal rift 4 team help? (floor 160)
have 10-15 elite+ fodder per faction atm so can build some stuff if needed
gotta get lucky from the mercs u get
Can someone make me 5 teams from this?
Lemme find who's connected to whom from dims
what have you done 😭
ur invests are weird and you havent finished half the heroes
I have not no
that randle.... my god
What with him
you e80ed him even though his stats don't actually matter...
he def doesnt need e80
Well I'm a casual idk man
There ain't a guide for this sh
bcs its pretty individual but you can always ask
Welp if I could I'd get rid of it but it is what it is
there quite literally is like 20
cool
hot
i just started this game anyone know any good teams and/or what i should focus on
Restart and follow the guide
restart and =guide
when you go to your heroes and then into the portraits tab, you can see legendary tier Heroes, when you scroll down, those are fodders
thank you
What to si30/40 e30/60 next? Waiting to draw estrilda and lava tune now
Misha to 30960 if u can
30930 naro for tower
20930 gorok for ts
30930 jerome 20960 sung si30 hin if u can
20930 atheus 20930 mira
20930 or 30930 palmer 20930 rim 309 alna
Anyone able to tell me who to get with hero choice chest? Just cleared ch 12
Use envy instad of dodder hero
If you have Ivan and randle save it and if your missing one of them take the missing one
I have both, read an old guide and it told me to take Rowan which I did, oof
Rowan is shit
never read old stuff
new units almost always op
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Rip, guess I live and learn
Its whatever 🤷♂️
are these teams fine with what I have for temporal rift or campaign?
=restarting
youre account is completely cooked but even for what ur have your teams are pretty horrible
The amount of red frames is hurting my eyes god 
E60 randle before lib is also thought
Read =guide
yeah dont understand ts gotta quit gg
Just do whatever then and have fun
Doesnt matter, skill issue
wow
new to the game and got lucky enough to get awakened baden 😔 what is this luck
it took me until chapter 16 just to FINALLY get a copy of randle, the game is giving me dog scraps
You get hero choice chest ch12😇
but, baden 🧠
Could someone help with team?
dunno whats wrong with this wilder floor but i cannot for the love of Dura pass it
If wilder boy is the only one remaining, turn off auto
we later needs 3 teams of wilders?????
holy crap
I didnt even know we would ever need 2 lol 😭
Hello, could someone please give me the active AFK Arena codes for December?
No :p just google it
okkay
Hit c31. Who’s the second best carry and the comp to build around them?
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Remmm
Hello goat
hello twin , how’s pushin 🥀
I need another op trial to get anything
would def be nice to get one soon 😭
My 5th team is just fodder atp😂
oh hell nah 😭 i ain’t even got a 5th but i be workin on lib
Yeah lib is my second team lol even w him i dont even get 5
I just pulled lava tune what do I do w him? I’m new to this game and level 26 my lineup consists of wukong Ivan ( frontline) and Palmer vika and eorin ( backline) I have other characters too like villianelle , lady Simona morrow and Gwyneth
Does anyone have tips for a hero line up for chapter 26 and up?
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Thanks

Rare moment of Hat being useful for once
Ty
Your very welcome :3
Definitely
is my account broken? i found that my team start not working anymore. I am in chapter 31
i used all grit and swap scroll
You asked that a week ago alr and i told you it is if you tryna be competitive
i fixed it
You obviously didnt
If you restarted then you made the same mistakes again
why, i got randle acendended. However, i sense some thing wrong
You have 4 heroes m😭
And you used swap scroll + you wasted grits
3 actually
Nah 4
why you see 4? i dont get it
I see 5 im not counting rem alr
i dont understand much i ascend tarmus because i have enough copy of him to reach ascended so i can link he to rem
i just dont lucky enough to get just single copy of meta hero in =guide
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i even got rewarded skins for having 150 elite heros. I should realize how unlucky i am before "invest" in this account
this game requires too much luck or i am too unlucky.
thanks for helping me, i leave this game
Just play buddy its not that deep
There is not rule how to play the game you can always do whatever you want
Is awakened antandra good? I just pulled her
no
Damn…I got too excited and pour quite some recourses on her
I doubt you have her M which is the first tier to start really "investing in a hero" So yeah you're good
Alright 🙂
Aslong as you didnt pull her in temple of time everything is fine, lvling up is not investing in a hero
Alright thanks :)))
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- 4 Faction Heroes:
=wishlist - Celestials/Hypogeans: #994913771598389318 message
- Awakened Heroes: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
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