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[pastel cradle]

That artifact where when you die you revive with some hp back?

[gentle flare]

yeah thats my palmer artifact

[pastel cradle]

oh ok, btw which artifact is best for rem?

[gentle flare]

shadow dancer gives her ult a nice kick to it

You must have a copy of Saurus to unlock this Collection.
– Skill Level 0 (Clashing Waves): When the holder uses their Ultimate skill, they enter the Phased version for 6 seconds, during which they receive 20 points of Attack Speed and 20 points of Crit Rating.
– Skill Level 1: While in Phased version, when the holder deals critical strike damage, the phase inflicts additional damage equal to 30% of the damage value.
– Skill Level 2: The holder recovers health equal to 60% of the additional damage dealt.

that the one ive used so far but maybe in specific floors you can change it to that soul thing etc to target certain hero
or that duras with the shield

[pastel cradle]

thx

what about any of the dura's artifacts tho since you can bless multiple ppl with it

[gentle flare]

i use the shield upon ult one on my tanks
cart for ivan and revive for palmer

ashem with that shield lives much longer too

[pastel cradle]

alright

[gentle flare]

you can also make use of the one that makes the opposing hero to enter battle later to counter specific heroes i reckon

[oblique kayak]

Something like this?

[gentle flare]

that should work just fine for at least 10 chapters

[oblique kayak]

Thanks for the help 👍

[gentle flare]

as soon as you get stuck you get rem.

[oblique kayak]

Alright 👍

[timid robin]

Only eye and call, rest no need

[wise forge]

Fawkes? I appreciate you trying to help but idk if you know what you’re talking about

[timid robin]

Rem 1st prio asap btw, not when u get stuck

[wise forge]

@timid robin oh hey mentor. Halp 😁

[timid robin]

The guy is behins u in ch i think

[gentle flare]

i mean ferael i dont know their names lol

[timid robin]

Farsight i believe you are giving people bad advice btw

[gentle flare]

how so if it has been effective?

[wise forge]

If I don’t hook Ferael he kills Rem. If Rem is top he doesn’t get hit by ult and THEN kills Rem

[timid robin]

Suggesting people to work on heroes the guide specifically advice against. The fact it worked for you it doesnt mean others have to sacrifice their food because you did

Suggesting people to work on palmer early is wrong for example

[gentle flare]

maybe be more specific i hardly recommend making legendaries or +
and surely heroes like palmer ivan are great

[timid robin]

I been watching ur replies these days, you tens to advice very early people the wrong moves. No u dont need palmer at all

[gentle flare]

i have hardly struggled on either of my 3 accounts with palmer so he isnt a bad hero but whether you raise him or not depends on rng and summons does it not?

[timid robin]

Never used palmer until ch 31 so thats a proof u dont need him

Never used nara also

[gentle flare]

and i have used palmer on all 3 up to chapter 16 12 27 and working extremely well so id argue otherwise but i only used nara on a handful of floors at e+

[timid robin]

Whats ur max ch?

[gentle flare]

i just got to 27 today but seem to be able to get further

without palmer and ivan i get obliterated

[timid robin]

See u did not even reach double team yet

[gentle flare]

palmer/scarlet were highly recommended to me when i began but scarlet fell off around time i got rem while palmer remained

[timid robin]

Yeah, palmer is good but dont need early

[wise forge]

Not trying to cause an argument, just trying to get past this shit

[gentle flare]

well ill go keep pushing 27 maybe ill reach there and start trying stuff lol

[timid robin]

Lyca back not front. Also either nara OR lyca

[oblique kayak]

So… Should I go for garrison then?

[timid robin]

You all use nara I never did

[pale kettle]

why should i garrison rem? for what gamemodes?

[wise forge]

Doesn’t really matter. Tried a lot of variations and positions. What tends to happen is Rem ult kills everyone but Thoran and Nuri, who then kill me why he’s reviving

[timid robin]

Yes asap

Should get rem asap in new account

[gentle flare]

she specifically helps me in handful of floors i had to eliminate 1 hero to win like in 25 28 i recall a single thane killed my whole team so i moved nara to 1st slot then rem backrow above her and killed thane and get through chapter 25 with just that one move

[wise forge]

Sometimes Kelthur ghost too. But basically Ivan can’t kill them after they revive and kill Rem

[timid robin]

U should be able to see what did I use?

[timid robin]

I mean I used her maybe on a couple occasions but guarantee u its like I never did

[pale kettle]

but where to use her besides campaign and pvp if i can just hire short term for bosses

[gentle flare]

can still use her for bosses too after my mercenary rem does 2nd most dmg for my teams

[timid robin]

Campaign and wherever u need her honestly.. she is not good everywhere but yeah.. like I out dps her on bosses easily

[gentle flare]

what heroes do that i assume thats after u get a bunch ascended 1star +

[wise forge]

Nope

[timid robin]

Even scarlet on some probably

[pale kettle]

but like im non competitive player but i still wanna follow meta partially, so what im saying is i dont rlly do campaign much and pvp, can i get away with garrisoning someone else, if i just merc rem for bosses

[pastel cradle]

Can I beat 20-60 with this or will I have to make rem mythic eventually

[wise forge]

@timid robin everybody is using this formation but their Rems are 220 e30 so I might just be fucked till I get a better link

[timid robin]

What u mean u dont do campaign, its all about getting higher in campaign so u get more rewards and can power up more.. i mean if u dont do campaign u can stop playing 😅

[pastel cradle]

?

[gentle flare]

@timid robin #classic-questions message do you think ill have trouble with these when i need 2 teams later ?

[timid robin]

Weird u dont see what I used.. lemme check but i doubt.. I always share the same ch 31 report where u can see the "standard" team I always used to get there..

[wise forge]

Truthfully I don’t understand the point of formations…every single replay is too old to watch

[timid robin]

I will check but put atheus in crystal rn

[gentle flare]

he is he helped me get through 26 25 too

[timid robin]

I never used them either 🤣 but yeah ur rant is legit

Atheus is a beast

[clear sage]

Starting now, who i can change? I read on a website, to level up mirael until chapter 30, is that right?

[gentle flare]

he was actually first hero i noticed that tanked those brutus enemies and didnt lose hp at all partly thanks to palmer lol

[wise forge]

It’d be really great to see why these formations worked…but almost everything uses a 220 e30 Rem here

[timid robin]

Read the pinned guide, yeah u lvl up fodders like mirael and then switch to go over lvl 160

[wise forge]

I’ll try this just for fun

[timid robin]

When u share heroes share multiple screens each of heroes filtered for a faction

[gentle flare]

very well

[pale kettle]

huh? i do events, bosses and other stuff, im not gonna grind campaign all day

[timid robin]

Not just for fun lol
U should add atheus or gruke or another tank

[wise forge]

I have Atheus, no idea who Gruke is

[timid robin]

I mean u dont get to grind campaign all day unless uu whale lol u get to a point where if u do a few stages its a good day

[timid robin]

Put atheus with brutus

[clear sage]

Where? I cant find 🙃

[gentle flare]

this worked really well for me too
rem ivan palmer were in the back

[pale kettle]

no bro. u just put it on repeat for so long

im tryna have fun in the game, not turn it into a grindy hell

[timid robin]

#classic-questions message

[wise forge]

This eventually worked after a lot of fucking dodging

[timid robin]

Can put lyca instead of palmer or emi

Emi with rem is nice

[timid robin]

There stages that only emi made rem be able to ult for me

[gentle flare]

here you go lol

[gentle flare]

yeah without the freeze few floors were troublesome

[wise forge]

What does Emi actually do? And can you garrison 2 at the same time?

[timid robin]

She freeze and buy time

She does good dmg sometimes too

[wise forge]

Why does Atheus work against Thoran? Like these skills are entire novels and I don’t know why he’s good

[gentle flare]

vs guild bosses she does as much as my rem usually

[gentle flare]

he seemed ridiculously tanky in the few battles ive used him idk how but it just was lol

[timid robin]

Because atheus is a beast

[wise forge]

But why? What makes him a beast

[timid robin]

He tanks a ton

Read his kit!

[gentle flare]

has to be spiritwood blessing

[wise forge]

He offsets damage with his wood protection, but the way it’s described I imagine that would just get melted off

[gentle flare]

i have been using duras grace on my tanks so far

as long as they dont die rem carries

[wise forge]

I just use whatever the popular collection item is on my units

[timid robin]

Ghoulish is better but its so expensive to get the totems for mythic skills. Still probably better for most heroes.. like thoran needs the dura eye for the cheese for example

[timid robin]

He stuns, debuff, get more hp and resist istances of dmg that would be more than 10% of his hp

[pale kettle]

o what im saying is i dont rlly do campaign much and pvp, can i get away with garrisoning someone else, if i just merc rem for bosses

[timid robin]

U dont merc rem for bosses.. u keep garrisoning rem so its free after 6 times, same for emilia

[pale kettle]

can i get emilia first

[timid robin]

I mean u can do whatever from what u say u do with the game

Go by the look 🤣

[pale kettle]

whats emilia used for

[timid robin]

She does well in some modes and very useful in campaign with rem, which is the main reason u get her for I guess

Probably pvp aince the aoe freeze etc

[pale kettle]

so i should rent both at the same time

[timid robin]

I do that since ch 20

I mean i started garrisoning emi too at ch 20

[gentle flare]

i did around 25 i began to get stuck there needed solutions

emilia/nara/brutus/atheus were the solutions lol

[timid robin]

I ascended naroko around ch 22 and she pushed me well for a bit 😅

Still use her, i like her

[gentle flare]

my third account has naroko for tank im thinking atheus/mishka/brutus for other tank i may need later

[timid robin]

Helped me much for multiple teams too, she can carry a bit

[gentle flare]

naroko creating a second target is nice

[timid robin]

Nah dont need mishka, can grit

[gentle flare]

i used mishka in those voyage things where heroes are level 360 wasnt very impressed but atheus and naroko were very interesting

ashem liberta rem lucilla ivan/palmer/jerome someone else completely wrecked those voyage floors for me

ill use remaining floors to test out combinations since all except one is at 100%

[timid robin]

Jerome is a beast too

[gentle flare]

liberta probably did most of the dmg in those lol

[timid robin]

I still have him at M but the other day i couldnt win in my 3rd team and just tried put my underpowered jerome in.. won first try lol

[timid robin]

Built liberta is a monster

[gentle flare]

voyages are cool you get to experience built heroes and try combinations i lost quite a lot of battles before i started mixing some broken stuff

[timid robin]

U might think a support would heal or buff.. well he supports the team by killing everyone 🤣

[gentle flare]

other heroes ive seen single target specially sometimes target the clones ashem makes and sometimes that is why i lost but liberta just obliterated their main body within seconds

[timid robin]

A reason why he is probably the only hero in the game worth to si40.. well besides the new one

[gentle flare]

i used up my si early on grez lol so now catching others like ivan/rem up has been a bit slow

[timid robin]

If you started like 2 or 3 months back u would have enjoyed lots of free chests and unlimited summons

[timid robin]

Oof

[gentle flare]

grez is si30..

if necessary ill use a grit so its not the end of the world

my last grit was the shemira 1star to lady simona who is linked to rem now

[wise forge]

@timid robin any solution for this one? If I don’t run Lyca then Rem dies before ulting. And even when she does everything dodges and barely survives

I can only ever kill Lucius consistently

Or if anybody else cares to weigh in

[gentle flare]

I'd watch replay and keep replacing weak links and maybe one combination works
have you tried running two tanks two supports and rem

[wise forge]

Literally none of the replays ever work. I can copy them but I can’t see why they worked

[gentle flare]

do you run the same team multiple times too

[timid robin]

Why is ivan higher lvl than rem and why is rem mythic

[gentle flare]

27 26 i attempted like 30 times and it eventually worked when i used ashem atheus brutus ivan and rem lol

[timid robin]

Also when you say "im stuck" im assuming u run every combination of the various positions, few dozen times at least.. if u didnt, you are not stuck yet

[wise forge]

Ivan is fully Ascended but Thoran is on the team so I don’t have her linked to him, she’s linked to M+ Scarlett

And yes I try variations multiple times with multiple pets and positions

Without Lyca Rem dies before ulting. Without Nara hooking Vurk everybody dies very fast. Experimented with other tanks but this is the closest I get, and it’s not that close

There’s a lot of dodging and everything barely survives and idk if that’s an RNG thing or if my Rem doesn’t hit hard enough

[clear sage]

Help 🤣, i have this account, but dont know how keep going leveling up

[wise forge]

I imagine a lot of my problems could be solved by having somebody ascend to link Rem to, but right now that’s just Lady Simona and I don’t have fodder

[wise forge]

You already fucked up. Should’ve read the Beginner Guide in #classic-questions pins

[gentle flare]

do you use lady simona actively in other places

[wise forge]

No, but I’m trying to ascend somebody as a Rem link and to increase level cap via Crystal

[gentle flare]

my 1star lady simona has been linked to rem since i swapped to her lol

[clear sage]

I imagined, but this account is old, i didnt know about the guide or discord,have a way to "arrange" ?

[pale kettle]

btw cant beat this boss, no matter how hard i try, i cant deal enough damage, even with liberta, scarlet and stuff

[wise forge]

No, your problem is you’re level capped because you ascended heroes instead of fodder

[clear sage]

Serious? What a shame

[timid robin]

Its ok u reset the heroes and lvl the fodders, luckily u didnt make big mistakes like ascending random heroes

[timid robin]

U dont need thoran for now or simona

Btw im curious why u see 2 ashems and 2 libertas 🤣

[wise forge]

Borrowed from you but your Ashem wasn’t strong enough to beat my last roadblock so I had to use Pimps 😂

[timid robin]

My ashem solo teams at my stage lol, its ubderleveled to meet ur power

[wise forge]

Yeah but even then, his had like another 200k or something

[timid robin]

Probably engraving or si40, mine is si30 e60

🤣

Not a day i regret pulling for her

[wise forge]

@timid robin since I’m stuck here for the time being and don’t want to bother with relinking Rem and making more attempts, how far can I realistically get in trials of god with my limited box?

I could use some of the rewards but idk how many modifiers I can get by with Rem Ivan and CO

[clear sage]

Ok, reset the levels, level up the fodders

[timid robin]

I had to look around because I didnt remember what it is 😅 honestly I cant really tell, why not just try? I maxed them a while ago and dont have any more to do so I completely forgot

[clear sage]

Make mirael or leave the daimon?

[timid robin]

U can ascend any fodder u have?

[clear sage]

I can ascend mirael one more time....

[timid robin]

U can do that with 5 of them, they cant ascend past legendary + and cant lvl more than lvl 160.. so u r fine with them for a bit, u put the heroes u use in the crystal

[wise forge]

I did 31/32 following a guide online for the modifiers. Didn’t have the same units but I beat it without too much issue.

My luck fucking sucks though. So many units would help me progress right now but my elite was a new lightbearer and my fodder were all non GB

Apparently the first one is the only one I can do though

[opal glade]

I have silas A, ivan A (1 star each)

[patent cobalt]

What's the best team for crystalline worm queen in lost spire

[pale kettle]

Team to support rem??

[summer aspen]

Started maybe 20 ish Mins ago, so the roster isn’t big yet

[winter elk]

tamrus - skreg front daimon - rowan - trish back.

focus on getting daimon, palmer, ivan, jerome, rowan, and any gold/awakened heros you pull leveled up.

[summer aspen]

Thank you! I followed a list on who to put on wishlist and got pretty lucky

[winter elk]

daimon should be ur highest level btw he does big damage

[summer aspen]

Hm ok

Can you un-level people?

[summer aspen]

Who’s Palmer?

[winter elk]

lb support

[summer aspen]

Hm I don’t think I have them

[winter elk]

you dont but if you get him put him in the squad

[winter elk]

yes at rickety cart

[summer aspen]

I’m over powered for now!

[summer aspen]

Who would I replace him for?

[winter elk]

trish

[summer aspen]

Okay

[winter elk]

eventually ur gonna wanna replace skreg with someone like brutus or thoran. brutus is prob the better pick tho for his invincibility shield

[winter elk]

^

[summer aspen]

Hm okay

[patent cobalt]

Please

[winter elk]

what heros do you have

the meta team is prob something like abel - palmer - lavatune - palmer - jerome

[summer aspen]

I beat floor 40 in kings tower

[deep slate]

Stuck at chapter 11-31 pls help with a team comp

[summer aspen]

Yoooo

Got him twice

[pale kettle]

hello, which 5 heroes should I use?

[midnight steppe]

naroko, scarlett rowan palmer and daimon

[pale kettle]

tnx

[dawn lotus]

I’m stuck at 8-22 I need help

[pale kettle]

spam diamon

use him in different positions

[livid lion]

should i get my 8th copy of rowan first or thoran first

[ancient carbon]

Coming back to this game for the first time in... 8 months? Any tips? Kinda stuck at a wall.

[pastel cradle]

prob best to just restart and read the beginners guide in #classic-questions pins

can get to campaign stage 12 fairly easily

[crimson vortex]

Yep thats like 2-3 days of progress. Restart

And follow the beginner's guide

[ancient carbon]

I've followed the beginners guide every time I come back... I've restarted an account literally 6 times now since starting the game... and plus with the time I get to play it'll likely take longer

cause I don't get often to play the game

[long belfry]

Should I make any swaps?

[pale kettle]

how often do u play, and do u take breaks here and there?

[ancient carbon]

With work I usually get 2ish hours of play at the phone

and breaks as in leaving the game for extended periods of time are... rare.

Sometimes if I hit a large wall, then maybe. But most of the time no, I don't usually take long breaks

[pale kettle]

also how have u restarted 6 times already with no success?

[ancient carbon]

Not my first time coming back from a break...?

Been playing since the beginning. Usually breaks last 4-5 months after 2-3 months of playing, depends on my schedule at the time.

[pale kettle]

?

okay well if u do take breaks then it sets u back competitively

[ancient carbon]

I don't play competitively.

[pale kettle]

then there's no reason to restart

[ancient carbon]

I'm at a wall where I literally can't progress whatsoever

I was just told that a restart would be the best play, but I haven't done so yet

[pale kettle]

u should restart but follow the guide closely

and use legacy fo grit wisely, after u get at least ch 31+ and don't play competiviely u don't need to restart

[long belfry]

Any change suggestions?

[shy zodiac]

im having trouble with this, any ideas on how i can beat this stage

[pale kettle]

upgrade diamon

[shy zodiac]

still cant beat them

[timid robin]

@shy zodiac Just a tip, when u say u are stuck it means u tried all combinations of positions, few dozens times each at least.. then u can say u are stuck..
That early it takes less effort, the more u progress the more frequently u will have to replay and adjust

[shy zodiac]

yeah ur right my bad

[timid robin]

If u think there is a magic team that will go through campaign in one time and never change anything, that doesnt exist

I passed some stages like the 50th try without changing anything.. and maybe also faceroll the next stages

[pale kettle]

make daimon 20 levels higher than everyone

[pale kettle]

those are the worst

retryinf has made me go insane

[pale kettle]

I am stuck on this lvl can someone help me

I can't lvl up my heroes I don't have mana

[near walrus]

so im new to this game , and just recently join this discord community , so what is the best team comp i got some good heros (i think) but dont know how to utilise them

[timid robin]

Follow the pinned guide, you already made mistakes by ascending the first 3 heroes.. get rem asap

[past iron]

Is rem such a good character? I know nothing about her tbh and I was there when she came out

[gentle flare]

she is great

[past iron]

oo?

[gentle flare]

just hire her and see what she does lol

[past iron]

will do :DD

[elfin copper]

Literally the best carry for a super super long time
Usefull basically everywhere
And also very easy to get / build

[past iron]

ooo, how do you get her?

[inland meadow]

up to 31-8 and mostly wanted to know if there was anything i was doing majorly wrong. read the guide late as hell (i was around stage 28~) found i made a few mistakes but i've made it this far now. also wanna know if i should hero swap anyone

[elfin copper]

=garrison

[cloud nexus]

What is Garrison?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256

[timid robin]

Yeah well, mistakes are many but u got to ch 31

[elfin copper]

Id swap mishka for atheus cause u have no awakened pr calhypo built also use eugene he is great same with rowan

[inland meadow]

damn how bad is it ;D

[inland meadow]

ok thanks i see how that works out

[elfin copper]

😉

[summer aspen]

Here’s a good team for everyone

[past iron]

thanks much

[pale kettle]

BASED

[summer aspen]

Fixed it for you

[pale kettle]

hes s good

[summer aspen]

She good?

[pale kettle]

yes

[summer aspen]

Who would I replace her for?

[tardy geyser]

either frontline

[summer aspen]

Tbh she’s doing good solo

[little loom]

What 5 heroes should I use on my graveborn and hypo towers?

[summer aspen]

Shi seems to be working

[pliant yew]

Any recommendation to pass it ? Whatever I try m’y Rem gets killed before using her ult..

[midnight steppe]

lyca instead of jerome

[timid robin]

Random pulls? She is 😍

[summer aspen]

Yeah, I’m using her solo and no struggle yet 😭

[timid robin]

I mean you dont measure struggle now u barely started playing 😁 u can use her front till ch 31 and beyond tho.. you might probably have to max her.. she solo for her team

[summer aspen]

Hmm alright

[pale kettle]

I never used ashem

[timid robin]

Look

[pale kettle]

ascended????!?!?!

[summer aspen]

Very strong

[timid robin]

Yeah she is

[pale kettle]

are there any ascended that work well with mythic

[timid robin]

Depends, some places wherw all your heroes are leveled equally I see people using 1 copy abel/solise for example.. my ashem always been in my team at 1 copy till I maxed her.. also because she keepa other alive if they die, just for a bit, but it meant victory sometimes for me.. and well rem likes all the time she can get to build energy

Maybe someone more experienced can tell u if they work at M but it makes no sense to just use a M ascended and not max it

[pliant yew]

ok thanks gonna try

[midnight steppe]

🫡 \

[honest spade]

What should i use or focus on

[timid robin]

Damn..

[honest spade]

What

[timid robin]

So many heroes midway.. where is rem btw

[honest spade]

Im playing for the first time in like years

I did swap for jerome

[timid robin]

Then my friend, u might consider a restart I believe.. what ch is that accpount at?

[honest spade]

24

[timid robin]

U swap rem for jerome??

[honest spade]

No thane

[timid robin]

Phew I almost died there

[honest spade]

Lol

I started this 2 days ago

[timid robin]

When u share ur heroes share more screenshots each filtered for a faction so its easier to check😉

[honest spade]

Ok

[timid robin]

I would play this one tbh...older account is damaged much being at ch 24 I believe

[pale kettle]

which one is "the same type of damage" is it the same class or the above 6

[timid robin]

Maybe someone more experienced can tell you if thats really worth it.
@midnight steppe sorry to tag you but I am also interested so I can see if my pov is correct and make me more helpful overall

[honest spade]

Damaged?

Also whos good now like shimira is bad now who else

[timid robin]

Yeah because u ascended lot of heroes and are behind on food

[honest spade]

Okay so who do i try and get i can do more servers if the one i have now is baf

[timid robin]

Plus yeah now that account is in a old region and everyone else is likely way more powerful than you are so its harder to compete

[honest spade]

Okay

Thank you so for my new one what heros are good and what should my lineup be

[pale kettle]

these bosses are impossible, I can't do anything

[timid robin]

First of all make sure u read the early game guide in the pins.. especially the first part.. then just play, and make sure to get rem asap.. u already have some good heroes.. also set ur wishlist as suggested in the guide

[honest spade]

Where is that

[timid robin]

In the pins in #classic-questions

[midnight steppe]

which account?

[timid robin]

This

Ch 24

Years old so old region

[midnight steppe]

seems they made an alt already and youve directed them to the guide in the pins, i have nothing else to say, that is a horrid account to try and fix

good job

[timid robin]

Cool, you know I just wanted to make sure because I'm still learning as well 🫡

[midnight steppe]

🫡

[timid robin]

Thanks!

[final dawn]

is brutus, thoran, damon, ivan and Ashemira still a good team to build? also i have the hero swap thing and don’t know if or what to use it on

[burnt jay]

My team consists of thoran, palmer, liberta, ivan and daimon, when i get rem who should i replace for her?

[midnight steppe]

daimon

[midnight steppe]

you cant swap any celehypo and awakened. i would swap eironn for naroko

[burnt jay]

but i got daimon at l+, do i replace him anyway?

[midnight steppe]

no you should link rem to him

[burnt jay]

how do i do that? i’m at 13-2 do i have that unlocked?

[midnight steppe]

once you get rem you can link her to him in the temple of ascension

[burnt jay]

does that work even when i hire her on garrison?

[midnight steppe]

yep

[burnt jay]

sorry for the loads of questions i’m new xD

[midnight steppe]

it infact only works if you garrison her

[burnt jay]

oh okay nice, thanks for the help!

[midnight steppe]

no problem happy to help

[honest spade]

How do you get rem

[midnight steppe]

=garrison

[cloud nexus]

What is Garrison?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256

[coarse yew]

My heros die so fast especially eorin whatever i do

[midnight steppe]

well for one dont use them when you can be using the fodder

[coarse yew]

I tried them but they do even worse

Except the lightbearer tank he is good

[midnight steppe]

stop making Legendary heroes you clown its a waste of food

[coarse yew]

Aside from fodders i accended all of them way before i saw the guide

[midnight steppe]

no hes dogshit, try and use atheus, scarlett, i cant see the rest of your heroes

[coarse yew]

I don't have atheus and i used scarlett but she didn't do any better

[midnight steppe]

no, just no. youre only meant to ascend them if they have 4 copies so they can hit leg+ where the next ascension unlocks something big for them. getting them to legendary does absolutely nothing

[coarse yew]

Even fodders?

[midnight steppe]

no fodders are the exception

[coarse yew]

But i told you i accended before i knew wth i am going to do unaccend them?

[midnight steppe]

no just dont do it again

[coarse yew]

I am not doing it again ofc

[midnight steppe]

because you dont know when youll get the next copies of those leg heroes youve made, which is why we dont make Leg elite heroes

[coarse yew]

I got that part but what i should do now

[midnight steppe]

wait, go play something else, the games called afk arena u arent meant to beat it in a day

[coarse yew]

I am stuck for two days here that's why i am asking for help

[midnight steppe]

do you not have the currency to get rem, you should have her by now

[coarse yew]

I can get 92 stones so still i can't

[plush mortar]

Is there a meta list of best Team choice ?

[midnight steppe]

go look at TS for pvp teams

[plush mortar]

Ts ? And pve?

[midnight steppe]

so wait even more

[midnight steppe]

treasure scramble and player vs player

[coarse yew]

I will kms

[midnight steppe]

then you wont last long in this game

[plush mortar]

Ye but i search for both, ts includes pve to ?

[coarse yew]

😔

[midnight steppe]

no its only pvp

[plush mortar]

So pve No meta list ?

Cuz dont wanna wast Materials for late Game xD

[midnight steppe]

no because those tierlists are shit, the closest thing is the beginner guide in questions

[plush mortar]

Alr thx

[lofty grove]

heyo looking for some help, I think I spent too much on Lucretia when I used to play, I keep getting stuck around chapter 26, wondering what team I should be using and if I should hero swap, I have the event and one in my inventory I could use

[midnight steppe]

im really tempted to make you restart since you lack a lot of the support heroes

@near notch thoughts?

[lofty grove]

fr?

[tight yew]

how long have you not been playing for?

[lofty grove]

hmm maybe a year? only stated playing again last week

[midnight steppe]

yea a restart might be better for you, you'll get bullied by the ppl in your server which wont be fun

[lofty grove]

oh that's a good point, I'm not too fussed about pvp tho

[tight yew]

its not about being fussed, you get the majourity of your rewards from region based modes that youll struggle in without restarting

if all you wanna do is push campaign and thats it then sure stay on that account you will be slow but youll be able to push a little

[lofty grove]

grr I'll make a new one then

[plush mortar]

Daimon for PvP Worth ?

[midnight steppe]

no

[plush mortar]

But eiron as far i See

Or?

[midnight steppe]

rem is usually what ppl default to in pvp

[plush mortar]

Hmm

Whats the best ATK Charakter for Team PvP ?

[midnight steppe]

awakened athalia

[plush mortar]

Okay, i cannot finde a meta Team which in should make for pvp in that ts Channel

Cuz im Sure i need that Team Bonus for Same element or. ?

[midnight steppe]

u can look through the different debuffs

[burnt jay]

is there any way to undo an ascenscion? i fucked up :/

[split halo]

No

[midnight steppe]

how badly?

[woven tartan]

Need a team to use

[next monolith]

Hey guys someone got an idea for a Great Team With that dudes?

[burnt jay]

bad enough that i can’t mythic my daimon

[pliant yew]

first, you really want to go and read the quick guide in #classic-questions (Noob's Survival Guide, 3rd pin, Ascencions part of it, or #faq-resources https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994908234135646268) because you should be leveling your fodders instead of your actual team (could be argued for your Palmer but even then..) and avoid upgrading your heroes to anything but Ascended

second, reset your heroes and put the levels in you carry instead of palmer, you seem to be playing Vika so 140 her, then 120 all the others before getting her to 160

third, you might want to get Rem instead as your carry (garrison, here's a quick guide, #faq-resources https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256)

Then you could play something like
Frontline : Thoran, Rowan
Backline : your carry (Vika, Rem), Palmer, another support/controler

[pliant yew]

Basically the same, go read the guides to not "waste" your precious fodders around

You definetly want to put that rowan in your team
You want a tank so I'd say go for either Thoran or Brutus (Grezhul could work but not really now)
Palmer + Rowan as supports work wonders, might throw an Oden in for some controls
Then your carry (you have 3 leveled up so.. choose one), I'd go for Scarlet, though if we follow the begginers guides you should either garrison Rem or continue with Mirael until you get Daimon (you prefer to garrison rem)

[gentle flare]

if they have atheus he will be great tank too at e+

[late hull]

Why i need mehira in ch 31?

[deep slate]

What’s a good team with rem

[tidal valve]

Rowan, Safiya , mishka, ivan and Brutus

[tidal valve]

Who said u needed her?It could he because she’s used with liberta

[coarse yew]

I've tried multiple formations and changes doesn't seem to work i need rem to stay alive as long as possible any help?

[tight yew]

put your rem behind the tank not the supprt

[coarse yew]

Instead of ivan or scarlett?

[tight yew]

huh? you just move rem to where ivan is, drop sylas too hes bad low levelled, run brutus if you have him

[coarse yew]

I don’t have brutus

[tight yew]

you got lyca?

[oblique kayak]

What I tend to run and what I have

I’m close to getting my 4th Daimon

Working on getting rem (86/100) dimensional stones
Working on fodders too.

Currently on 11-4 (Not really stuck but slow progress)
I have a couple off RC spots

Any tips?

[coarse yew]

Nnope

[pliant yew]

haven't seen him, but definitely yes

[pliant yew]

I'd go with Rowan instead of Jerome/Eorin and put Rowan in front row instead of Daimon

rest sounds fine

[gentle flare]

do you see that button called formations in bottom right of ur screen it shows you what others used to pass the same stage, you can sometimes copy their team even watch replay and get through just fine, but dont raise heroes based on what they used, most of the time they got through using elite+ heroes and a rem

[timid robin]

Just get rem, no point looking for a team that will change when u get rem

[pale kettle]

i just did my CR boss fight and i didnt get the rewards (chests) in my bag

it says claimed but doesnt show up, is this normal?

[violet estuary]

@midnight steppe I DID IT

[timid robin]

Nice u will link to rem when u get her, dont upgrade si on daimon..

[violet estuary]

S i ?

[timid robin]

Signature item

[violet estuary]

Oh make more sense

Is my daimon decently strong? For chapter 11

[oblique kayak]

Thanks 👍

[timid robin]

I mean u so early it doesnt matter, also because u should get rem very soon I guess and he will be just a puppet

[pliant yew]

And just as what Zao said, get Rem, I'd personnaly just replace Daimon by her for now and you'd still be good with the team (based on what you have now)

[oblique kayak]

👍 yep

[oblique kayak]

Just got rem. Should I replace Daimon as you said?

[timid robin]

U link rem to daimon, if daimon is ur highest lvl-ascension hero

And now fix this in ur mind: rem nukes, but she is squishy. The rem team is basically about having rem survive enough to ult..

[oblique kayak]

Alright, so adding rowan is a good idea?

[timid robin]

So the heroes are a combination of meat shields (tanks) and supports for rem. Ivan for example is op and should get him asap.

Lyca better for now

[oblique kayak]

Alright, got Ivan ready. Thanks 👍

[timid robin]

A "standard" rem team is brutus front and rem ivan lyca back.. brutus work at 1 copy, same for lyca. Then u see what other tanks u have, if u get atheus throw him in with brutus

[pliant yew]

I personnaly gor for Ivan, Palmer and Rowan to keep Rem alive but like he said, Rem = alive, Game = win

[timid robin]

I wouldnt use either rowan or palmer

Maybe for a bit now u can, because u might not have the pool of heroes to decide

[oblique kayak]

I’ll try to work it out with the pool of heroes I have available

[timid robin]

U have brutus and lyca? U get free brutus copy at ch 15

U can make rem si20, dont go higher also

[pliant yew]

either ? really ? I could understand just one of them instead of both so you can squeeze Lyca in but they do offer Rem quite the survivability

[oblique kayak]

Don’t have Brutus, Lyca or Atheus. Have them all on my wish list. Currently missing a proper tank. I’ll work it out

[plush mortar]

Is she worth to have ?

Or she

[timid robin]

Needs 9f

[timid robin]

U dont need to make rem tankier, even tho ivan will, u need others to tank and rem to build energy fast..

[plush mortar]

What ?

[timid robin]

Needs 9 furnitures

[unique cosmos]

Hi guys I'm new In the game, can someone help me with a lineup please?

[pliant yew]

First of all, go read the guide in the pins of #classic-questions and in the #faq-resources , this will help with some basic thing like why you shouldn’t have Yellow guys that are not « fodders » (basically to not be stuck really fast and leave the game out of frustration)

Then, I presume your past ch6-40 so go get Rem from Friends > garrison, she’ll be your carry
After that you need a tank, you already have Thoran so keep him for now
Put your Ivan in your crystal with Rowan and play them too
You need a last support to allow your Rem to generate energy fast and go boom, rosaline/lyca on top of Rowan are good choices (I do like Palmer too)

[unique cosmos]

Thanks ^^

[coarse yew]

I have a a mythic gb should i level him instead of the gb fodder?

[split halo]

Depends who it is

[coarse yew]

Daimon

And linked to rem

[pliant yew]

in your case, specifically as it's tied to your carry, I'd say yes
In a more general way, when starting out and when you reached the cap of 160 of L+ fodders, you want to level up Ascended heroes for the level cap and so this will be tied to your luck and what you drawn so far. It is still following the rule of "If I can't Ascend the hero directly, I don't fuse/upgrade it"

[coarse yew]

Tysm for this info i appreciate it

[pliant yew]

np

[quartz bison]

Worth to build, but you'll take a long time to build her as i suppose you're still at early game

[plush mortar]

Hmmm ok, and Wu Kong?

[quartz bison]

Worth to swap

[plush mortar]

Wdym whit Swap ^^?

[quartz bison]

Swap event ( where you can swap 2 heroes )

[plush mortar]

I dont think i have this Event ^^``

Btw yellow Scrolls better then blue one?

[plush mortar]

Is He Worth to use ?

[pallid shoal]

Rem ivan rowan brutus i need a last who i shoud play?

[timid robin]

Can u link rem to a higher ascension hero?

[pale kettle]

y is brutos M+

[timid robin]

No awakened is worth to use if not maxed

[timid robin]

Atheus, and lyca instead of rowan.. early ch rowan can just work

[pale kettle]

WHAT, but eugene is good at M right

[timid robin]

I mean I don't speak for early game that's just a transition.. i dont have eugene M so idk, but sure I won't stop at M

Plus u miss engraving

[umbral kernel]

My line up is deimos golus wukong mirael Arden who do I put in reso crystal and how can I make a better lineup

[timid robin]

I still use one copy abel in a team, but thats not really what I consider usable 🤣

[split ferry]

I’ve been using Daimon hendrick Silas scarlet and Palmer can anyone help me improve my team with any change?

[pallid shoal]

Im chap 24 that fine ?

[timid robin]

Yeah u can use brutus atheus rem ivan lyca all the way to ch 31. There is no magic team so always consider replays, switch positions and if its still dont work sometimes u just shuffle, probably lyca for emi, nara or whoever make u pass

[frozen badger]

I would appreciate someone giving me 5 team comps for campaign. I can maybe investing on thoran (last hope tho I don't have many red chests)

[pallid shoal]

Alr thanks mate

[peak trellis]

How do I get an account back that I lost a few years ago? I lost it because my phone was stolen and I couldn’t bring any data back from logins and stuff. I do know my user Id, and username but that’s all..

[split lake]

I just started playing 2 days ago and i was wondering if this team is gonna be good to help me get through campaigns? Like if i keep leveling as i go along, im on 3-33 rn (i just got to 4-1) and its going pretty smooth, but i dont want to waste my materials if i can avoid it

[pallid shoal]

Btw i still have the hero swap event u have any idea who to swap?

I got atheus but only E

[plush mortar]

Is He permanent ? Or only for the Event time..

[jagged thunder]

where do i put gavus? is he a sup tank or carry ?

[pale kettle]

perma

[plush mortar]

Huh is He usefull?

[coarse yew]

My highest accention is mythic

[coarse yew]

Yes he is

[plush mortar]

But Not a must have or

[coarse yew]

For a beginner he will carry until u get rem

[hard thorn]

Made another account cause my first one is a mess. What should my wish priorities be and who should I pick from chest?

[plush mortar]

Thats my current Team 😂

[coarse yew]

Why did u accend the tank guy to legendary?

[plush mortar]

I got them Like that

[coarse yew]

And also try to put diamon to the back

[coarse yew]

No that is not good

[plush mortar]

Damn i thought He is a Tank

[coarse yew]

He is a tank but the little guy die fast in the start of the battle

And also try atheus instead of the legendary guy

[plush mortar]

U mean that yellow Lion ?

[coarse yew]

Yes insted of him

Also do u know what fodder means?

[plush mortar]

Im new at that Game

[coarse yew]

That's a thing u should know (i am a beginner too)

Read the pins to know what is a fodder

[coarse yew]

Open heros then u will find a tab in the bottom right corner named portraits

Scroll down and you will find legendary tier heros(those are fodders)

[plush mortar]

Alr

What fodders do ?

[coarse yew]

They are more common and easier to get so u can accend them easily put them in the crystel thing and they will level up ur other heros

Don't accend regular heros more the elite+(purple with yellow corners) until u have 8 copies of them( 8 elite copies or 4 elite+)

[plush mortar]

So normaly i should make an new Account when i read the Guide right

[coarse yew]

Nah u didn't mess up

U can still manage it

[plush mortar]

I Just got this one by legendary from Taverne

So i should make fodder Team from Guide ?

[coarse yew]

And we do this because of one thing because u can level heros more than the maximum level they can do originally

[coarse yew]

Yes and btw when i read the guide i had three useless legendaries

[plush mortar]

I Just dont understand the Part whit past Level cps xD

And First IT Shows Team fodder and then Team composition

[timid robin]

No, ita not about making a team with fodders.. but to lvl them instead of heroes

They cap at lvl 160 max and l+ max

[coarse yew]

Elite max lvl is like 120 so when u have a legendary +fodderin the crystal thingy let's say his max is lvl160 both become thier max 160

[plush mortar]

But when i Level the fooders and dont need to make Heros, how i'll get the Heros Up later

[plush mortar]

Rarity Changes to ?

[coarse yew]

When u have 8 copies of heros u accend them

[coarse yew]

No just the level

[timid robin]

U put heroes on crystal and lvl fodders.. when u have to go past lvl 160 u will integrate heroes, u should have enough copies by then

[coarse yew]

See those two boxes? You put your heros there and your fodders must be instead of those five above

[plush mortar]

The five above are Always my Team or.

[timid robin]

5 most leveled heroes

[coarse yew]

The ones above are ur highest lvl heros

[plush mortar]

I think now i got IT

[coarse yew]

U can reset the heros level so u upgrade the fodders instead of ur heros

[plush mortar]

The fodders i Just need to build Up that Crystal Thing, and Put in heros

[timid robin]

Y

[plush mortar]

And rarity i can Upgrade later

[timid robin]

Ascend heroes when u have 8 copies

[coarse yew]

U can reset the heros level at rickty cart

[timid robin]

One exception might be when u get rem

[hard thorn]

What should my arena team be?

[long belfry]

Any recommendations

[heady urchin]

Any comp tips for 14-40??

[midnight cloak]

Hi guys, can someone help me with lineup please, now 25-40, can’t win

[cold lion]

Kinda stuck on 17-3, enemy team has 920k power to my 467k. I'm running thorin with a bunch of supports and sometimes my pet carries, but sometimes he gets one-shot and I lose

[pliant yew]

Thoran, Ivan, Daimon, then 2 supports to help keep Daimon alive/boost his damages
Rowan for heal+energy, Lyca for Haste, Nara to control the biggest threat

You also have 2 Grezhul in your Crystal ?!

A lot of "waste" with all those Legendary heroes, try to avoid getting them only to L (guide in the pins of #classic-questions)

[cold lion]

The red gerzhul is on loan from an event or something

[pliant yew]

ohhh ok, didn't see the little green loan thingy

[long belfry]

If I garrison rem how should I rearrange my team for her?

[pale kettle]

Anyone I should sub out here for anyone?

[pale kettle]

Remove Lucero

Maybe i sub out lyca?

[cobalt meteor]

I need help spire floor 13. Can someone help me with lineup ?

[dusty surge]

new player, hit a campaign wall, whats my best option here

i can level up more characters btw, so dont pay attention the their level, i just need to know a good line up

[shy zodiac]

what should my main team be for now

[dawn lotus]

Restart ngl

[livid lion]

can i use shemira as fodder

[cold lion]

🤨

[pale kettle]

follow beginner guide

restart, and follow pins in questions

[dawn lotus]

Im stuck on 10-22

[dawn lotus]

Anybody

[long belfry]

I don’t have lucero?

[long belfry]

Any recommendations on how I can make my setup better and any replacements? Should I level up my supports?

[livid lion]

can i use shemira as fodder

[ancient carbon]

Fodder are Legendary tier heroes

the ones that can only go to Legendary. Shemira is an Ascended Tier hero.

[polar geode]

who should i use on my team im in chapter 12

[pliant yew]

If you do that you might as well restart your account now

[pliant yew]

I’d prob go Brutus over Thoran as tank this early

You should get Rem as your carry (garrison)

Then I’d recommend Ivan to support her and the 2 remaining are basically what you might need to keep Rem alive long enough so she can ult, can be Nara to target control an enemy, Lyca for haste, Rowan for heal+energy, Palmer for heal/def. Really depends on the fight

[pliant yew]

Ivan frontline instead of a tank

Less useful tank here out for Nara to control either biggest threat of the fight (should be one in the back not sure if it’s top or bot)

Might need Rowan instead of Palmer

[pliant yew]

Can you show the rest of your hero box plz ?

• Get Saveas out of your Crystal right now please.. it really hurts to see a fodder in CR when it should be the one you actively level up early on ^^'
• all your Epic hero for which you have multiple copies, fuse them to Epic+ (purple but with braces around), just for some clean up and more space

Then:

• Replace Daimon (and maybe Thoran too) by a support like Lyca (Haste), Silas (Healing/AtkBoost), Lucillia (might work ?)
  If you have Ivan use him and put him frontrow

Try to keep your Carry (Rem) 40 level higher than the rest of your team

[pliant yew]

Atheus, Rem, Ivan + 2 supports to help keep rem alive long enough (could be healing or control and if you don't need more of those, energy/damage boost)

[astral herald]

Any suggestions on my lineup not stuck just wanna know

[lean chasm]

any suggestions since I keep losing

[polar geode]

how do i get enough exchange clina for rem

[pliant yew]

you trade the lab and guild coins for the dim stones

[polar geode]

so do i not buy copies of shemira with the coins?

[pliant yew]

• put Palmer back mid to heal/buff everyone (unless you have a reason to have that assassin there, don't think so)
• might put Flora in to help with the healing

[lean chasm]

Thank u

[pliant yew]

Getting Rem comes first

[polar geode]

alrigjt cheers

[pale kettle]

need help with my lineup, I've beem stuck on 7-40 for 3 days now

[pliant yew]

frontline: Thoran/Rowan
Backline: Daimon, Palmer, Simona

and try to get Rem asap

[pale kettle]

where can I get rem?

[pliant yew]

Friends > Garrison

She'll be your Carry instead of Daimon

[pale kettle]

aight

where can I get the resources or which ones should I use for the exchange?

[pliant yew]

• Hero coins come from retiring heroes (when starting the green ones, later one the blue ones), quite scarce at first so try not to use to much of those
• Guild coins, from doing the guild activities like Hunting and Hellscape, use those
• Lab coins, from doing the lab, you those
• Gladiator coins, from Legend's Challenger, don't use those

more info on the prio once you got Rem here https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994909904001323100

[coarse yew]

I don't know who is good can someone help me with this?

[cold lion]

No? Lmfao

[elfin copper]

Yeah you made some very very questionable choices in your heroes especially ascending so many to legendary personally i would recommend you to restart and surpass this account within a week at most
If you want to continue ur gonna have to suffer for a long long time before you actually make good progress compared to others 😉

[lean chasm]

Is my lineup wrong I’m on chapter 6 - 16

anyone?

[pliant yew]

without your whole hero box it's hard to say, but at first glance it seems quite good, I'd prob just swap Ivan and Wukong to make sure Wu stays alive long enough

[lean chasm]

my whole hero box are level ones

but thank u for the advice

[pliant yew]

yeah but that way we could recommend you heroes to put in your CR to use them
or which hero to reset to place a better hero, otherwise your config will always be the best

[lean chasm]

lemme send a picture now

[pliant yew]

Not a lot of heroes to work with rn so you're quite ok with what you use

Still recommending to get a Rem to be your carry

[lean chasm]

rem?

[coral jetty]

What is a good formation?

[lean chasm]

I keep losing can anyone help out

[hard thorn]

Can someone tell me what team I should use for arena and campaign?

[earnest fractal]

I am stuck at ch 12 , which heroes should I use ?

Right now my team consists of daimon, lady simona, palmer, scarlet and liberta

[quartz bison]

Mishka WuKong Eorin Daimon Plamer

[quartz bison]

Jerome Daimon LadySimona Palmar Liberta

[quartz bison]

Show your heroes

[quartz bison]

AShemira Daimon Ivan Scarlett Palmer

[waxen aurora]

My teams have been a bit inconsistent

I normally run Ivan,silas,scarlet,Ashemira and rowan

But rowan is hella squishy at times so I replace him a lot with whoever suits the sage more

[long belfry]

Any suggestions for changes I should look into?

[hallow ledge]

I really need help! I'm not a pvp player, I am at 37-20. Please help! I can PM you the full faction if you want.

[split halo]

@formal blaze

[violet sapphire]

Noo

[split halo]

A warning is a warning

[lean chasm]

.

@quartz bison

[earnest fractal]

Thanks!

[pliant yew]

swap rowan and rem, can try to swap Palmer with Simona to have a bit of control

[lean chasm]

help I keep dying again

[pale kettle]

read the guide

also ur carry supposed to be higher levelthanevryone else

[severe mason]

any idea on how to beat this

[lean chasm]

carry or tank?

[pale kettle]

cary

[pale kettle]

try nara middle

[severe mason]

already did it, failed , tried all variations

[pale kettle]

idk i didnt use rem, but i did daimon ivan combo and won through those

u can definitely do it with rem, just keep trying random stuff, u will get it

[gentle flare]

i didnt even use nara at that point have you tried using brutus as one of the tanks

brutus/lyca could be of help

[lean chasm]

What am I doing wrong now?

[severe mason]

thx

[severe mason]

well, people told me to use nara until chapter 30

[lean chasm]

@severe mason can u help me?

[untold spire]

can you only get rem from pulls? dumb question i know aha

[pliant yew]

you get her through Garrison

[lean chasm]

@pliant yew can u help me

[gentle flare]

she is useful sure but i doubt you need her for every single floor

[pliant yew]

is your wukong able to ult ? or does he die first

[severe mason]

you need to follow this

[pale kettle]

use gb scrolls

[lean chasm]

Yeah

[severe mason]

i think you switch brutus and wukong positions

swap them

[lean chasm]

What’s that

[gentle flare]

faction scrolls

[pale kettle]

remove palmer

[severe mason]

palmer and rowan are useless

[pliant yew]

you far from getting Rem ?

[lean chasm]

Alr I’ll do that now

[pale kettle]

u got 2 healers and u arent doing enough damage probs

[pliant yew]

Palmer ok, rowan ?

[lean chasm]

idk where to get her or how to even get here in the first place

[pale kettle]

friends then garrison

[pliant yew]

Friends > Garrison

[lean chasm]

Checking now

[severe mason]

people told me both need sig to be worth using

[untold spire]

How does that work anyway?

[gentle flare]

that friends tab after chapter 6 40 garisson

[gentle flare]

have you not finished chapter 6 40 then?
garisson unlocks after that

[pliant yew]

sure you might not benefit from the energy with rowan dying fast, but having those huge pots of his are a real deal to keep your carry alive just enough for it to ult

Which are still better than palmer this early for sure

[lean chasm]

It worked

[severe mason]

ivan is enough

[lean chasm]

Im în 6 - 36

[pliant yew]

depends

[untold spire]

what is after mythic+?

[gentle flare]

i used palmer up to chapter 25 and since then its been a part timer

ascended

[untold spire]

what you need to go ascended? like how many copies

[pale kettle]

rowan is awesome, ivan too

[untold spire]

i love having 9 copies of shemira yay

[gentle flare]

2 elite+ copies after mythic+

[pale kettle]

grit

[severe mason]

i have 8 days in the game , i should be arguing , thats what i heard from people tho

[lean chasm]

On who do I use this and how

[untold spire]

that's for the hero right? not some random food

[pale kettle]

noble tavern and use the scrolls for gb

[gentle flare]

yes fodder cant go past legendary plus

[pale kettle]

graveborn only remember

[untold spire]

i mean is it 2 elite+ of random fodder, or the hero you're ascending

[gentle flare]

the hero you are ascending

[lean chasm]

I have no scrills

[untold spire]

rip, i need 2 more daimon copies

[pliant yew]

when I say depends it's more about what you're facing and what you need to keep your carry alive long enough
I use it a lot because I don't have enough controlers to CC every god damn hard hitting backliners in front

[pale kettle]

u can get from peaks of time

[severe mason]

i have been using this setup since chapter 10

[pale kettle]

preach 🗣️

[untold spire]

pretty mad progress for 8 days

[pliant yew]

might give it a try , just replacing thoran with Daimon as my thoran isn't in my RC ^^'

[pale kettle]

yea thats actually insane as hell

[gentle flare]

that team works in upper 20s too but not 100% of the time

[lean chasm]

Half my good team died

[untold spire]

Like i made it chapter 17 in a week and thought that was good lol

[severe mason]

check the unstoppable achievement

[pale kettle]

once u get rem u can beat it easy, or merc

[pliant yew]

it's ok, I work in cybersecurity, I like to bruteforce things ^^

[untold spire]

crazy, did you like not sleep at all lmao

[lean chasm]

All my team dead

[gentle flare]

brutus helps with that too

[severe mason]

i sleep and work too lol

[pale kettle]

why dont u solve the kryptos ciphercode

[untold spire]

wild

[pliant yew]

neither are in my RC, but I will soon need to start leveling my fodders and need to make space anyway so

[pliant yew]

I'm not good enough at math...

[untold spire]

a good tip is to try and friend a really strong person and use their hero for mercenary

definitely helped me sweep each stage

[lean chasm]

I got no friends 😂

[untold spire]

just go onto chat and add anyone that looks strong haha

[lean chasm]

are you strong?

[untold spire]

not really, but I borrowed hero from someone strong lol

[lean chasm]

How did u borrow

[pale kettle]

same

[untold spire]

friend them, and request their hero as a mercenary

[lean chasm]

Like did u trade or something

[gentle flare]

its been very time consuming or id probably be at chapter 30 at least by now i put in an hour or so just to go 20 floors in 28

[untold spire]

nah, go to friends, and it should say short-term

[pale kettle]

you can add me 154526295

[lean chasm]

Thank u man

[untold spire]

Be careful to not use any heroes in the campaign otherwise you can't use them agai for a week. you can keep using them in peak of time though

[pale kettle]

mercs are awesome

[pale kettle]

there's a channel to ask for heroes here

[lean chasm]

I’ll use them only in peak of time then

[untold spire]

and definitely try and apply for a mentorship, its quite limited at the start, but you can get paired up with a really strong guy, and the rewards are pretty nice

[lean chasm]

How do I add friends on the game btw I’m so lost

[untold spire]

friend settings, and then put in their id

or name

[lean chasm]

Ohh tysm

[lean chasm]

I managed to add you

[pale kettle]

added

[lean chasm]

How should I request a hero

[untold spire]

does it say short-term next to friends?

[pale kettle]

u can request my Raku

[lean chasm]

How 😅

[lean chasm]

Nah

[untold spire]

right you have to complete 6-40 first

[lean chasm]

Ok

[untold spire]

my ID is 159307678, not that strong tho ahah

[lean chasm]

I keep dying

[untold spire]

is this campaign?

[lean chasm]

I’ll add u man dw

[lean chasm]

Yeah and I’m really bad

[pale kettle]

same lol

[untold spire]

you might have to keep retrying the stage, sometimes you can win through luck lol

[lean chasm]

Alright I’ll do that

[untold spire]

😅

[lean chasm]

No luck at all

[untold spire]

what is your hero box looking like?

[lean chasm]

Should I change my tank to hogan

Here

[gentle flare]

not sure if you have enough dps with 3 supports and 1 tank and wukong

[lean chasm]

True

[untold spire]

chuck kalthin in for rowan or palmer

kalthin did wonders for me for the time I had him

[gentle flare]

a fodder mirael should be able to help you until u get rem too

[lean chasm]

Which one

[untold spire]

the hypogean one, one with timer

[lean chasm]

No like town or palmer

[untold spire]

hmm, whichever tbh, try both I guess

[lean chasm]

ok

which one do I reset

[untold spire]

tricky really, I use palmer atm so bit biased towards him

[lean chasm]

aight

[untold spire]

your choice

[lean chasm]

Omd the timer means it a trial hero so I can’t upgrade

[untold spire]

yeah, use him to get as far as possible. I progressed quite a bit with him

[pale kettle]

did u beat ur stage

[pale kettle]

same, he was strong as hell

he was 1v5ing teams

[lean chasm]

I can’t use him since he’s a trial hero T lvl 1 and I keep failing

[pale kettle]

huh

[untold spire]

wait wait, did you reset?

[lean chasm]

he’s a trial hero so he stays at level 1

[pale kettle]

no lol

[untold spire]

he stays at the lowest level of the heroes you have in the temple.

[lean chasm]

I reset one of the characters he’s now lvl 61 but dies so quick

[untold spire]

hmm, he works quite well on backline

[lean chasm]

Backline got it

[untold spire]

he's quite squishy for a warrior ngl, so needs some protection

[lean chasm]

he’s so bad

[untold spire]

lol really? surprising

[lean chasm]

im horrible at this game ngl like proper bad

[untold spire]

lol, trying to find a team that works is quite tricky.

[lean chasm]

yeah it is to be honest

[pale kettle]

ivan and him are really good

[untold spire]

yeah, so quite surprised he's not really working

[pale kettle]

apparently when I used him he lasted until the end doing 1v3

[untold spire]

it could also just be a case of your frontline heroes dying too quickly. personally never used wukong so not sure, but you also have anasta which works with brutus

scarlett is also realy good as a dps

[lean chasm]

based off what i have can you make me a squad and tell me where to place them exactly

@untold spire

[pale kettle]

What’s the best team to support rem? Currently running all light bearers and Ivan

[pliant yew]

that guy setup works wonders #lineup-help message

[untold spire]

Brutus, anasta, palmer, Scarlett and Kalthin or wukong maybe

[pale kettle]

I’ll try it. Some of those are only E+ tho is that ok?

[lean chasm]

which one is the tank and carry and where do i place them for beneficial results?

[untold spire]

I meant for the guy I was replying to lol. You have a lot of heroes to work with haha

[pliant yew]

more than fine, and most of your heroes should still be E+ only (see why in #classic-questions pins with the guide or in #faq-resources )

[pliant yew]

I htink he was answering to me about the pic of 3Adler

[untold spire]

Kalthin/wukong, palmer and Scarlett back line, anasta and brutus frontline

[lean chasm]

anasta is carry so she should be like level 90 while teh rest are 60

[untold spire]

Try and get anasta, and either Scarlett or palmer to 81

[lean chasm]

how about brutus

[untold spire]

If you can, all three at 81 should do better than one at 90 and rest at 60s. Brutus can be at 61 I think

[pale kettle]

do I have daimon or ivan btw

[lean chasm]

ivan

[pliant yew]

You asking us if you have them ?

[untold spire]

Ivan could also go in place of wukong

[pale kettle]

oh sorry, i mean does Albert have them

well now I look like a psychopath xd

[pliant yew]

ohhh yeah make smore sense like this

Kinda xD

[pale kettle]

yeah i probs sounded like I was very high

[pliant yew]

all good, was really funny

[astral herald]

Can't get pass 6-20 any suggestions

[lean chasm]

yeah

[coarse yew]

Daimon to the back

[pale kettle]

male sure daimon is at least 20 levels above everyone

[lean chasm]

i have ivan

[pale kettle]

he's great for carry support

[untold spire]

Lavatune to the back, anasta to front

[coarse yew]

Also the guitar guy not that great tbh

[pliant yew]

you should put Lyca in your team imo

[astral herald]

Ah thx

[lean chasm]

I still lose

[coarse yew]

Maybe use eorin

[coarse yew]

Use him

[lean chasm]

Over who

[untold spire]

Do you have enough to get everyone to 61 or 81?

[pale kettle]

make ur carry 20 levels higher than everyone else

[pliant yew]

scarlet or palmer depending if you need the healing from palmer

[lean chasm]

Nope

[untold spire]

Get wukong down to 61, and use to make Scarlett 81

[lean chasm]

I don’t he enoug

Ok n o I need to switch round places

[untold spire]

If you’re struggling, switching places and repeating might help you get past

[coarse yew]

Palmer

[pale kettle]

bro u gotta use ivan

[untold spire]

I keep forgetting you have ivan ahah

[lean chasm]

Guys can we all agree on one team so I stop getting so confused

[untold spire]

Let’s first have ivan, and Scarlett (imo is a need for dps)

[lean chasm]

so far:
ivan (top of the back line) - lvl 60
scarlett (bottom of back line) - lvl 80?
palmer (centre at the back) - lvl 60
Brutus (top of front line) - lvl 80?

what tank and what carry?

@pale kettle @untold spire @coarse yew

[coarse yew]

Brutus

[tidal valve]

Kalthin and Brutus

[coarse yew]

And scarlet is a carry but get rem

[lean chasm]

will do when i hit 6 - 40

[untold spire]

Anasta imo better than Brutus

[pale kettle]

how does the battle go, how quickly did u die?

[coarse yew]

Ok for now make Scarlett level more then the rest

[lean chasm]

anasta dies so quickly

[untold spire]

Hmm

[lean chasm]

very quick ngl

[pale kettle]

can I see ur whole box

[lean chasm]

so far:
ivan (top of the back line) - lvl 60
scarlett (middle of back line) - lvl 80?
palmer (bottom right of back line) - lvl 60
Brutus (top of front line) - lvl 80?

[untold spire]

The key is to keep Scarlett alive to get he ult off. So with that Brutus might be better

[pale kettle]

how many do u kill before u die

[lean chasm]

@pale kettle here

[lean chasm]

1

[pale kettle]

does Rowan still setup the potions stall

[lean chasm]

yeah

[pale kettle]

I would say use Rowan then imo

[lean chasm]

but its so bad idek what it does like it dies so quick

[pale kettle]

even if he does ur guys can still heal

[lean chasm]

replacement for?

[untold spire]

I can see for palmer possibly

[lean chasm]

eveery 5 seconds and in that time they die tbh

[pale kettle]

maybe palmer but u can try both

[lean chasm]

alright

[untold spire]

It’s a bit rogue, but you could try and use hogan for tank?

[lean chasm]

so far:
ivan (top of the back line) - lvl 60
scarlett (bottom of back line) - lvl 80?
palmer (centre at the back) - lvl 60
Hogan (top of front line) - lvl 80?

i need 1 more guys

i can try idm

[untold spire]

Could get lightborn bonus with Scarlett and Rowan/palmer

[lean chasm]

edit the team and add and chaneg teh cahracters

anyone?

@untold spire @pale kettle

[untold spire]

Something like this maybe?

Try and build you hogan a bit, don’t use all of your food though

[lean chasm]

alr

[pale kettle]

yea

also make ur scarlet like higher than everyone else by a few at least so ivan shields her

[lean chasm]

ok

ok thier all level 60

now which ones to lvl 80

[oak rune]

im stuck at 10-23, what should i do?

[untold spire]

get scarlett to 81, and everyone else at least to 61

[lean chasm]

yeah done

[untold spire]

first thing I would do is pair rosaline with scarlett so she can spam her ult lol

[lean chasm]

bro its shielding brutus

[oak rune]

what about the rest of the team?

which heroes should i add

[untold spire]

grez and daimon as tank, and maybe kalthin lol

or that hand lady instead of kalthin

[untold spire]

how is it going?

[oak rune]

Like this?

[jagged thunder]

Can somebody help em with lineup?

[oak rune]

lost again

[jagged thunder]

This my lineup but I’m stuck at chapter 12 now

[untold spire]

hmm, might have to just switch the heroes around

[lean chasm]

dying

[untold spire]

daimon instead of thoran maybe?

[oak rune]

how?

[untold spire]

just move them around before battle

[untold spire]

:/

[lean chasm]

-_/-

[jagged thunder]

But doesn’t he die easily? I did that but still lost

[lean chasm]

OMD

I WONONONONONNONONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN @untold spire

[untold spire]

Let’s go!

[lean chasm]

scarelt goes middle so it charge ult

im on 7 now tysm @untold spire

[oak rune]

i still cant live even for 5 secs

[untold spire]

No worries, run through the peaks of time

[oak rune]

just tried it with hand lady, lost again

[lean chasm]

7 -2 and i started losing again

i need a team that will carry me all the way

[oak rune]

try kalthin, i was able to rush to level 10 with him

chapter 10*

[lean chasm]

i dont have him

[lean chasm]

It’s a trial hero

[oak rune]

and you can use it

till the trial is over

[lean chasm]

And it’s so bad ngl

It dies too quickly

[pale kettle]

Who is kalthin?

[coral jetty]

Thnx

[pale kettle]

Oh. Thanks

[coarse yew]

i am stuck tried every fcking formation and changed every hero postion but still can't my main problem that rem can't live enough to her alt

[oak rune]

can you help me until someone comes to help you? #lineup-help message

[coarse yew]

Show ss and the main problem

[oak rune]

#lineup-help message

[coarse yew]

Of the battle itself

[oak rune]

#lineup-help message

[coarse yew]

Ok first put diamon in the back

And get rid of grezhul

[coarse yew]

Put eorin instead of grezhul

And get rem