#lineup-help
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Try taking off Rowan gear swapping him for palmer and putting thoran where mea is mertia is
hmm, but my palmer is already what im using
and my rowan is naked
altho i switched thoran ad maertia and won first try..ty
just curious, what made you say to switch those two spots? trying to learn so i can figure that out myself down the road
Why Rowan naked is so silv dives rowan instead of your Oden and make is not great so thoran will tank better and Oden can tp ogi to other side
Silv will dove onto the mage with the lowest def rating of no mages the lowest def hero
And Rowan can't be 1 shot bec of his passive and he will drop potions for your carry mirael
@somber edge
ohh ok, well i kept the team as is just switched thoran and meartia and that worked
i could level my mirael if i had more dust but im lilke 1500 short. that would also help a lot
Yea that team is a specific scenario I would swap Rowan in for palmer he give your heroes energy so they can ult more
And give him some gear
DM me if you need help aswell @somber edge you really want to learn not have people walk you through the game
do you think i should go back and try to beat ch 7 pot? not sure i have the proper wilders
You should try and find a friend with a really good mishka you could Merc on #mercenary
You do want the artifacts in there tho it's rly good
I'll lend you Mishka if you want
would be awesoe! what's your ID?
144666460 i have to delete you afterwards tho (for merc purposes)
just a heads up
Damn what a honor
i applied, and no worries do what you umust!
I put barricade on her, do you need something specific
just need ch7
He just need to beat wilder only pot

which one is mishka? still learning the portrait pictures, really dumb it doesnt tell you the name when you click on them
Wilder with a bear
shes the redhead eith the bears
oh nvm it does
ok i applied the mishka
Choerry is too nice
anywhere i can see dreamland teams?
okie good luck 

woah wtf...looks like luck wont be needed with this mishka
Just merc a lucy and put 4 random wilders in
You need whole wilder team for that no
no
3 only iirc
Of not I'ma cry lol I spent so many hours weakening them then losing then running wilder only
ok i need to go look u pa guide i still dont get this stupid pot

Peep dm
I know that I have too many legendaries,but ignoring that,I just pulled ASolise.Where should I place her?
What server are you on?
S1036
Why are you asking?
Pls help
@old token TYTY. I am done with your mishka now 🙂
i mean you can keep it until weekly reset lol
ohh ok sorry still not sure how it works thought you would have to remove me as friend and that woud take it back
Help
Ah I already removed; its yours to keep for at least 4 more days haha
Lmk if you need to borrow other stuff; I'll let you know if I have it
ahh ok got it!
I thought you dropped this acc what happen👌
Can't after the Time spent on it
If that's your choice enjoy
GL
you're gonna waste a lot more time trying to do anything though 
Yea he knows I explained it but it's whatever


@somber dock @somber dock nothing much just some Puch and guild bosses per day and lab
I will dropp it if it gets harder
The problem is your behind in pvp KT story FT everything and your investments are poor
Believe this should be a good formation
I got to ch 25 F2P in 1 week I've spent a lil now tho
by rerolling and following guides and luck lol
I think it's only luck
nope, there's a few people on here that are close to dragon's pace just doing the right thing. i got to 36 in 30 days. granted i'm a spender lol
i was in ch 30 6 days in exactly just checked lol
people aren't telling you to reroll cause it's going to harm you. It's honestly just the best thing for your situation
you have a lot of wasted fodder on even your reroll for no reason
any helpers for this stage dont want to use my garrisoned luc yet 😃
I know I can do it but this doesn't work
take out mirael and use arden
whats missing? dmg or tankyness?
It only luck 100% that's why I help people in here sm
Y I have ppl @ me all fkn day 
you can try moving daimon to 5, putting ferael in at 3 and aezizh or nara at 3(i don't remember if ezizh can banish silv before she ports)
your daimon is probably getting pulled by enemy ezizh i'm assuming and tasi ghosts your daimon, this will give you a few extra seconds for daimon to ramp if possible
I recently cleared this with it lower lvl than you if you would like to follow me and see my clears
yea exactly
i don't think mine will help you, dragon's will though. Pretty sure i was using luc by that point lol
made a typo mb
He was
^ fuck your lucc
Gimme a sec I'll grab my i d
guys can you help me with it
idek which pos is which
box
150867759
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move brutus to 2, esti to 1 daimon to 5, ferael to 3 get rid of rowan
what are these numbers btw how do i decipher that 💀
3
1
4
2
5
oo
or you can try nara at 3 to slow down saveas destroying your team.
having anything behind whatever's in front of ogi usually means you get thrown into oblivion this early
Ok I try it
you gonna need to put ferael/nara into your RC though obviously
added 😀
Farrell gets 360 No scope headshot and dies
Bet
with nara it is possible i think
try them a bunch of times, might take some attempts
game has some dumb rng sometimes it works out lol
damn how tf u got through this with that team 💀 no way its because of ferael sig diff
it can and if he has 3f it can also change lol
rng is rng with it lol, can open with a crit 🤣
but yours was at mythic at that point lmao, guess imma ascend him next 😀
Talismane as pet
Also alot of tries and if you have Rowan unlike me you could toss him in
Anyone have any tips or can help me beat this stage?
Before I sleep I can try and help
I'm on 15-40
Show the stage and your box I don't got all of the stages memorized
Brutus
A. Tal
Damion
Rowan
Nara
No shemira she is the main carry?
Alr I'm gonna try
But your prob is your running 2 supp 3 carries no tank
Yep lost
Keep trying your not gonna beat any stage in 1 try even 10 tries maybe not in 20 50+ early game then 100+ lol I just had a stage at 1k tries (keep trying )
I have lol
I would really read guides so you don't keep fucking up your acc
Luckily you can swap A shem for scarlet during this event
That is exactly what I am doing
Yes but I need to reach a specific stage don't i
Yea ch 20
Well idk if that's happening
But you have a few weeks so it pretty ez
I can get 1 star shem if I beat this
Would have been way possible if you did not make so many l's and bad investments like A shem
1* won't help
You get so many shem at the start
Well ima keep trying ig
GL just keep Nara on Isabelle and shem behind Brutus and swap other units around
gj
Returning player here! What's the best line up I can make? I'm currently on level 5-8
@polar pebble is this the new or old account? If this is an old account you might as well just start over. You're only about 1.5 hours in to the game
Old account
Why aren't you ascending you're mirael? Also, like I said I'd suggest starting on a new server unless u don't want to
I just started playing again not too long ago so I don't really know what to do
If I do make a new account can I get Queen on that account?
Im not sure what my line up should be, im in campaign fighting 100lvl enemies
If you lineup thoran and brutus frontline with maetria daimon in the back and maybe rosaline on daimon it should be a fair chance
Focus on building your daimon as hard as possible he'll carry, my alt acc is daimon run and I'm fighting rating deficits of 2.5x in early stages
Guys i Need help with a Comp to kill burning brute in Nightmare corridor with 4 heroes
Are there any heroes I can use that fit best with Rowan and daimon or should I try a totally different comp
Hey, I'm at chapter 35 and I need a 3 team lineup where all 3 teams are ok, usually I got 2 "good" teams and a bad one which barely works
use brutus and grezhul as frontline, daimon behind brutus and rowan backline, toss in your lyca and switch around with eiron depends on stages
and brutus dont have to be that high ascended, at e+ is enough - change your wishlist 😀
oden is 203 if it is to any help.
You gonna need 5 teams in chapter 36
Guys do I have any chance against this stage with my current heroes? I still have crystal spots and could make mishka/eiron L but I'm missing the 4th copy for both
Does that aezizh stun the silvina? Get ur daimon to 140 if you can. Use brutus as frontline. He is useful as a single copy for a loooong time
Pls help me I'm so close to passing my friends
Brutus over mishka ? Missing dust for Daimon but i'll upgrade him once I hit the 3k required and yea ezizh stuns I think, let me check it out again
You can try swapping either one and see what works best. Just make sure you’re using him. Also, don’t give him gear. Idk why but it makes him better
Use brutus against athalia
Ye but then daimon died instantly
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Oh really? lol i had no idea, btw does thonar + eiron combo work at my level or do u need the signatures? (Haven't reached that phase yet)
Dont touch eironn and miskha until u get 8/8. miskha isnt that good afaik without 9f (at least for me, i never use her and I have her A). Eironn works with E (his pull is a skill I think, so he just needs to be in rc to work)
Your aEzizh can be used for cc in so many situations, so you are kinda lucky/unlucky for getting him. Later on you can use him against Tasi and Isabella I think. He would replace Nara for you if I understand this correctly. Let’s see if anyone corrects me
Dura’s grace to rowan, maybe cloak to thoran. Can you send replay? Also add my smurf, maybe you can use whatever formation I used
My uid is 150739001
Ye 1 sec
I already gave you
Ah check out my comp if it is still available
It's not
:(. Do you know =afkhelper ?
Ye but all their things are over leveled compared to me
I guess youll have to wait a bit for lvls, or just rng. I have thousands of attempts on dozens of stages
Idk what formation is the best rng chance that's how I've been passing everything
Take farael’s weapon off. Try it like 10 times. Try swapping him with lyca
W suggestion fr
Idk im usually the one being backseated
@runic bolt do you have the replay for 43-4 thoran cheese maybe? or do you remember how it goes does thoran need to kill everyone in 1 ult?
Any help against this ? I really hate Athalia and ezizh
try putting brutus 2 and rowan 1, lyca 4
eziz gonna pull ur oden
guys please help which is best lineup?
use ur kren and shem
which is that?
kren the mauler guy and shemira
u can put lucius and brutus front
ok thanks
just keep rotating or experimenting 
bruh it kinda made my lineup worse

bruh imma ask it in questions
Kren and shem L 
=Earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
All into Aw thane and watch
which is better support rowan or silas?
Rowan
At 19-4 and slowing down progress alot in story. Current rotations are:
Thoran
Brutus (sometimes Daimon)
Fereal
Rowan
Nara/palmer/Daimon (,first two only if daimon is in front)
Also wondering about the trial mythic dude I got
Wanting to know if there's a better way to improve my lineup
Better view of my lineup
I put daimon first only if I'm using Nara/palmer of which I pretty much only use Nara
Managed to get to around 10-11, but I want to create a more cohesive team. Any advise on who I should build? (And yes, I should've used my fodders more efficiently
)
stuck here rn
Pls help me I tried like a couple thousand times allready
Two ults(needed more than one unit to survive first ult iirc though not sure) yeah. Looks like you already cleared it, nice!
Try
Brutus
Lyca
Damion
Rowan
Fera
Take feras weapon off
why take the weapon off out of curiosity
Makes fera fear faster
@somber dockcan you help me? i dont have eirron so i cant copy yours
lol what? for real?
I Merced that lel
I bought an extra merc for that🤣
can anyone help me i have like no exp rn
a shit i dont have mercs
if you need a merc i can give you one, thats np (assuming you meant you havent used him yet)
Rowan mid swap Silas and Damion
swap for what?
He used them 🤣
well in that case: 
Sonja
Grez
Damion
Rowan
New mauler
yep
k
Yea auto correct 😅
also why does rare + ira at lvl one have more combat power than legendary mirael at lvl 1
do you have elder tree unlocked?
no
gear then maybe?
Help I'm stuck 😭
Ive been stuck here for some time. Anyone suggestions for my formation?
Take bear off Brutus and run fera over oden
umm my goat is only lvl 65 bcs i dont have enough xp for five lvl 80 characters
Thanks man i appreciate all you guy's help last couple of days
Did you clear. That stage?
Bear?
No not yet, at work so I just saw your recommendation
Fera's weapon being off is crazy though. Like I got a mythic one and it's so shiny 😭
thanks 
Take of Brutus gear
Yeah and then
Fera fears faster without it I still don't run it unless I need more dodge
Take your fera bow off as well
tbh i really got no clue about early game anymore q.q i was just lurking cuz i was curious about the fera weapon thing
Lol 
i literally never heard that before 
So i sjould put the gear off of brutus and fera for what point
Dang even later in the game and PVP? that's a crazy tech
Same thing happened to me when JD told me i was like tf
Brutus to lower his deff and fera to fear faster ( but only fera weapon)
Just to make sure I understand clearly, this is right?
Yup 👌
Cool thanks :)
how much faster is it, do you know?
I guess I can also just put it on my Lyca. It's a wilders weapon anyway.
Not exactly it's barely faster but it can clutch if he lives just long enough
i see i see
You can swap back to fera but if fera is in a spot where he dies to fast try taking his weapon off
I'm re learning a lot about this game after a big break but my goal is ch 30.in 3 weeks sadly I won't get it maybe ch 29
Show your full box?
Also might be best to restart and follow the guides bec I see alot of mistakes an your on a old acc/server
Yea I would restart personally bec you have a lot of wastes fodder and on a old acc
You will get your progress much faster playing correctly I just restarted as well and I'm already back to where I am, you still are. Early game probably not what you want to hear but the best choice
If you do or don't decide to restart
I would read the pins in #classic-questions
And read =earlygame link
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Why not use Scarlet Palmer and Rowan?
They got killed fast
Try those two formations
Ok thx
You’re welcome. Just tell me if any of them work
Swap Ezizh and Rowan
Try both formations again. Climbing stages is just trial and error. Sometimes all you need is to do the same battle 50 times lmao
Or 1 thousand
I think im at 20 try
Its not worked too
I want to do it before 2 days to have the elite in the misty valley
Check afk helper
Hmm
Here's my current team
Why is Eironn placed?
If you’re going to use him I suggest throwing him in the middle but he’ll just die and so will everyone else
Could you share your wilder box?
Use Raku
Can someone make a team for me pls thx
Something like this
Luckily you’re early on in your account. Only ascend if you can get to L+ From E+
How do i do that?
alright, thank you!!
This can be your formation with the hero’s you have. Recommend using the trial hero’s until you can anymore though
Thank you
Hard to explain, just go to Temple of Ascension. You need another copy of the same hero at E+ to raise from L to L+.
Okay
Use L+ fodder (legendary tier) hero’s to ascend said hero to Mythic+ and then you’ll need 2 copies of E+ of same hero to ascend to Ascended Tier
Do not ever use Ascended tier heros to ascend other ascended tier hero’s
It tells you which is ascended tier at the top. Legendary tier hero’s are the ones that come in Rare. Ascended tier heros are the ones that only come as elite
Oh okay alright
This game is very complicated sometimes. It’s honestly easier to watch a video, read a guide or talk over a call lol
Interesting
Have you tried using Rowan instead of Thoran? And because Thoran will be taken out, tried using Ferael as well?
Tbh your formation is pretty solid. So I’m also kind of lost lol
Think I’ll make an alt account and see what I can do in about two hours
It's just more RNG then
ive tried alot of different things how would you say id use those
ive been running it the whole day
Keep running it 🤷
Honestly I have no idea. Your deficit is pretty amazing. Your hero’s investments couldn’t keep up with the insane push as it seems
Is this just a Rng diff or gear diff?
If you had Nevanthi I’d suggest a Grezhul Nevanthi comp. If you had Palmer I’d suggest slotting Palmer and Rowan with your Raku
had a bet with someone that had a 2yo acc stuck in 24 that id beat her in 2 weeks i have 5 days left and she just reached 27-4 so i mclose
That’s awesome
Keep going you'll catch up to me rew
i wont
Ch 30 by week 3 is my goal
Took me three days I believe to get to c18 about a year and a half ago. So I’d assume that with the way better hero’s c24 should be very obtainable
my goals is beat 27-4 before she does
it is if your lucky from begin pulls
If you could get an AEzizh copy you’d actually fair really nicely. He works at L splendidly
What's 27-4
idk tbh
Yes very true. I had amazing luck. I was so happy. Though I destroyed the account when I ascended Silas instead of a different hero
27 was only hard from 30+
I have M Silas I regret wasting food on him this early
her rc is like 240 so idk how im beating her tbh
She sucks 😭
my condolences
Could I get some help on this stage 😅 you've got some good ideas
I’m going to go work on my new alt, redeem the codes and start a push
GL
Lol which stage?
Eironn isn’t going to do anything because of that Athalia so he’s useless, this means your Thoran is Garbo as well
Put Lyca in Brutus spot, Brutus in Eironn spot and slot Oden and Skreg
Brutus daimon lyca thoran ferael/oden
Lyca, Skreg, Oden, Brutus, Daimon
Ran this earlier for about an hour no luck
Well hopefully mine works then
this stage is so hard for my levels
Hmm
I pushed to ch 28 with 180 RC you got this
Did you use my team yet?
I'm using it rn
ye but you merced this stage didnt you i dont have any mercs allready used 2
Yea that's why you save them for hard stages
but i used them on hard stages
Hard stages are like the last stage
60 is always the hardest of the ch 🙃
=Afkhelper
Would like some help getting close
Mercd nevie? 
For TR 🙃
Walker wl 
No 
Just bad luck
move daimon where lyca is and change lyca with oden
Damion dies to fast I've tried this

I still have no Pippa 🙃
I don’t think that’s your biggest problem😂
just keep changing positions like frontlining fereal worked for me on some stages
Ik 🤣 but myu what's me to get Pippa and thoran for early 🧀
Alr 👌
Against thane a lot of high deficit pushers use silas Daimon. It’s high rng but you need silas to ult daimon
I don't think my Silas will live tbh but he is 200 should I swap him for fera
I think lyca is your weakest link
Or brutus, you can try Daimon in p2 and Silas p5
change out rowan for oden
Oden will get insta killed 
You just gotta keep shuffling until something seems promising
all u need to do is buy time for daimon to ult
Damion gets ult off that's not a problem he just can't 1v5 
Are you f2p
Just some spending advice if you plan to keep spending. Now>later
Ik
Are you?
Nope
Roughly how much? Have you spent? If you don't mind
Search colter314
Alright
I’ve gotten pretty spendy lately, was at 150 a month ago. Now I have monthly cards for like half a year trying to hit vip 12
Thanks 👌
I found it, you got room on your F list or you full bec Mercs
i hat this 26-60 so much
Send
It's full
Oh mb, I’m never full😂
Sent tysm🙏
Hey, I'm stuck on the half of chapter 9. Got any tips for me for improving my roster?
Palmer sucks early
He is not great yea
Daimon Fareal Silas lyca brutus oden are all very usefull
could you help me maybe? its a bit up
Thanks! Gonna swap my team up a bit
Mythic +20 Rowan is usually better than lyca. You can frontline Rowan too
what formation would you reccomened?
Finally
Either swap lyca for Rowan or
Brutus Rowan lyca Daimon Fareal
rowan dies really fast tho
Only Daimon’s life matters. Putting Rowan instead of thoran gives Daimon more energy and allows you to add more cc heroes
it still doesnt really work i could make a screenrecording for you if you want
Hey im stuck at this level and i wonder what is wrong with my team can someone helo me v
Since it’s Fareal vs Fareal there’s a ton of rng, you need to keep retrying to see if a comp can work or not
So this
Scarlet in back center is always recommended
Daimon needs to be near Rowan, usually back center if you’re running brutus Rowan front
i still get clapped
Yeah scarlet isn’t the best option early on unless you have a bunch of copies of her
he dies very fast therew
i dont remember the stage, but you can check my comp, maybe it will help
149994684
can you help me make a good team ?
Just keep trying, like I said that fight is super rng based with that Arden and Fareal
Need to see all your heroes
Guys what would you use on this stage? Aezizh must be on mirael to stop her right ? Not sure about how efficient Ferael is right now too
allright i will ty
added
For some reason I can't see your replays 😅I'm still pushing though
Honestly that comp you have is pretty solid. I would probably start working towards Daimon instead of scarlet and use astar in back center. Also use the new mauler frontline
i dunno, maybe it saves them over the last patch or two only
Ah maybe
im gonna try
how's your rc doing?
Hey guys! I am missing heroes from every comp I see in new nightmare mode, so I came here to ask for help picking 6 teams for event (if need be I'll make space on resonating crystal to use someone, so any hero that I posses is fair game)
Pushed it to 200 at Ch 28
And got Damion 240
Use ruke instead of whatever that guy is called
220 rc is enough to get to ch 30, so its close
who ?
I'm a few raku copies from 220
Hogan
okay
And dust 😅
well youll have plenty of time to chill at ch30-31 anyway
if i didnt have 5 more days till ch27 stage 5 id just chill rn
Don’t focus on 6 teams. Beating 1 boss is better than almost beating 6. Every account is different and your only goal should be to kill as many bosses as possible
dunno why you ping me but comp is okay
might be gear or rng issue
idk what to do
Can anyone help I'm stuck on this stage?
i hate vedan so much, its impossible to kill him
i wish vedan was the biggest problem in the game
He is annoying af agreed but not even the biggest
Wait till tasi athiliea flora etc 😭
do you have nara?
how am i supposed to get through ch10? I find it absolutely amazing that a f2p can get to ch 12 in 24 hours
theres gotta be a resource or something that i dont know about lol
just afk a bit, dragon sets unhealthy push targets up 😄
it's not really about that. i just want to make sure im playing the game right. i am a min maxer and to my knowledge did everything correctly. so if there's that big of a gap i'd like to understand why. i can assure you no one played harder the first 24 hours than i just did lol
Knowledge helps also doing POT and KT help
my pot and kt are both advanced as far as i can
100% on every PoT
yes
i mean there's a lot of factors involved, lets say a month ago there was a huge promo avaliable, now its gone
lots of luck also
Show your stage
Yea you also did not get an aw hero and old codes just wait, new codes for ani should be good
i have tried hundreds of formations and hero combos..so far this has gotten me the closest. the vlad and reaper guy are both 100% hp after every single attempt
Yea you just lacking posting knowledge tbh not to be rude
why do you have mirael front?
i know you're going to say mirael shouldn't be in front, but i can assure you on this specific level its vastly better. i may even record and show you
she gets cacooned in the back and is worthless. i have done hundreds of tries. at least here i kill 3 of the enemies
generally speaking you should not have any issues at all when your carry has higher lvl than stage enemies
can you ss the combat log?
sure
And your box?
when i put her in the back, she doesn't even get an ult off because she gets cacooned. trust me im not some neckbeard that doesnt understand basic game mechanics like dps shouldn't be front line
silvina seems useless, bring nara
who should i target with nara

This might work idk
Palmer
Thoran
Rowan
Mirael
Oden
@somber edge
Maybe swap thoran and palmer it's a long shot but could work
im willing to try it. also which of the first 3 artifacts are best for mirael do u think i have dura's call on her currently
Yea call for her the shield for Rowan and eye for oden
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Guide for T4 Gear
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994914360189268088
lol just killed everything except vlad got vlad to 20% then he went to bats and 1v5 my entire team
Can anyone help?
I have been wondering the same thing tbh but as a new player there will always be a gap on the min max part of things, I read quite a bit and asked around and hit CH12 on my 2nd day and half
but the guy I spoke to that had a similar start to mine(has a post on reddit about Chapter 25 in 3 days as f2p)
when he saw my box he said he would be on CH10 on the first day super easily lmao
Don't trust reddit
people are trolls
would love to hear what you used to get to ch12? i am on 2nd day and half also and stuck on ch10.
@quasi harness
Show your box
I started with Aezizh + daimon on the beginner pulls, just steamrolled from there while adapting the formation with new units from asking around on discord
Yea he got a aw hero it's basically free ch10
yo dragon i won my bet 😎
however i was advised to used brutus and the dude that made that reddit post said that since I have E+ Mishka I should go all in on her, and that was the reason why he could push even higher
He is also wrong ^
even though brutus did clutch some fights here and there, specially that horse lady
I still use e+ Brutus in ch 28 lol also on 40+ I've seen him
Don't listen to ppl on Reddit imo 🤷
yea idk, i'm just trying everything xD Oh yea he just mentioned that he wasn't as impactful at the stage I was(think it was ch9'ish)
Gratas save merc for 27-60
Show me your box I can help if your stuck 👌
im not gonna push as heavy as i did now tho gonna play more casual
^ na don't fall behind keep grinding take a break at 2 teams bec you will b stuck there
i wont take a brake
I'm almost 3 weeks in gotta get ch 29
It was the guy that made that post of ch25 in 3 days, that's why i listened to him xD Currently on 12-2, but not to sure about who to put on the crystal next
I'ma be honest he was not free to play or he lied
Ferael doesn't seem that impactful tbh, idk if he only shines at E+ or something. Maybe i'm missing the reason why he is on the team
Not possible to do break 180 lvl cap f2p in 3 days
Fera fears at the starts making 2 enemies lose ult charge
Ohhh I thought he HAD to ult in order for it to proc, since it's at 2x it's kinda hard to notice in the middle of tons of effects icic
im still capped at 180
That's what I'm saying
what if you are lucky and get 10 lucy's in 3 days
Idk i'm clueless about that, the post is on reddit and pretty recent too. Eventually passed through it while waiting for a new server to open to try the game out
might be bs, no idea
Do you remember his name?
100% bs 
Not sure if i'm allowed to share links, just DM'd xD
so i mean let me ask this. you saw my box. do you think i am doing stuff wrong or my heros are just trash
cant say you got lucky, but its possible to push further with this
@static token take a look at this. i just did like 30 tries this is edited the best try. do you think im doing anything wronghere? I know you're saying i should have mirael in the back. but i can assure you she is worthless in the back. she doesnt even get an ult off
It's just vedan you need to kill him first or use Oden like I said 👌
who would you take out for oden in this team
try to place mirael into backline and pull spidergirl with nara
ok finally got it. mirael in front line with oden where nara was. i tried oden a bunch but only with mirael on backline
welcome to the retry arena
how many did you do in that stage
how do i check
click tales on the left of begin battle on chapter screen
wtf it says 81 attempts but that's a lie. does that include all the times i end it early?
cause i end early a LOT if the beginning isnt perfect
not sure 😄
It showed every try you've done on it you have to finish and hit retry thon@somber edge
is the oden seal random?
lol this is awful. beat one vlad level only to get stuck on vlad again the very next level
Welcome to afk arena
Been here for a hot minute and tried a lot of things someone please help
been stuck for hundreds of attempts
Try swapping Damion and fera 😅
And Brutus and thoran
Also Lyca over thoran could help
OH FINALLY TY
You want to know y 🤣
I do like this ezhizh guy
?
Ezizh( there ezizh mind Controls the farthest openet from him aka your Damion )
oh, good to know

wtf..i just got my 4th skriath =/ is he worth as a first ascend?
Not 1st but you do want him
hmm well.. i may have no other choises lol my pulls are absolutely awful
You need 8 copies so just wait lol
i thought i need 4
You want to save for 8 to make them A rn your goal is to get L+ fodder
or wait, i meant should i make him the 4 copy thing
mythic. or should i literally not make anything mythic until i get 8 copies
No you want to make your first L+ fodder them worry about M
i have L+ fodder mirael
Yea you need 5 L+ fodder for lvl cap
oh ok that makes sense
Try and work on a L+ mauler that you can feed maybe chicken will be your first M but I would still go for kren or skreg chicken. Is good as well
Chicken. Is skriath
ahh k
should i reset this branch?
=tree
Priorities for Elder Tree
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994914542440173688


oh wrong channel 
do you have nara
yes
can you post your box
I see
Put nara across isabella, otherwise play with positioning

Need some help
What is a good lineup i can use?
Wtf...just got my 5th skriath
Gimme 🙃
Bro wtf is your box

wdym
Should start from scratch you fucked up big time 
bruh
Ask #classic-questions if you don't believe me
Lol you wish you had skriath? I'm kinda tempted to take him to mythic..I mean why not. Better than a crappy fodder ya? Can at least help me progress
And its also not a super important faction afaik
Whats a good lineup for Delicious Dreamland?
You will waste fodder build up fodder L+first
Explain why that wastes fodder plz?
I believe you 
UwU
umu
It's just smart to push carry heroes to L+ not push supp M first and tbh M chicken won't really help early you sadly he is just a supp
But it won't actually waste any fodder. I mean I hear you if chicken was a grave born I wouldn't even suggest it
I'll explain it just slows down progress for a mauler carry for faction tower idk how to explain it ahhhh
Cheorry you explain 😅
But is a mauler carry?
You waste it because you're effectively locking those fodder to a useless hero who will not shine until you invest in them further
It is best to hold off on any ascensions unless you can either take them straight to A-tier or justify M-tier with Signature Items (primarily Raku and Rowan)
In your example, ascending Skriath to M will not get you very far. By the time you realize this, you may have gotten copies of better heroes that you cannot ascend because the fodder was wasted on Skriath.
Skriath is not carry.
Most maulers will not carry without investment.
You can ascend for levelcap, but even then be careful.
Thank you wise cheorry

what is a good starting formation?
wukong
I got him.
In faction towers you can only use said faction so kren skreg are really good early carries
Don't build for tower
Yeah just him
He can solo through Chp6 iirc
Not saying to but it's nice to have a solid hero for 4F
N one else?
I get all this and agree with it, but skriath is a good support right? I have 3 other factions to build a carry from. I just doubt I'd build a carry from mauler based on the pulls I've gotten so it means I'll need to build carry from other 3 factions. I totally get everything you're saying but I just don't see any downside
Stargazers and dust and emblems early on are huge
Him at M will not help you where you are at
@somber dock seems he has good cc and buffs. I don't see how that can't help
whats that?
He is really just good with Furniture
If you're set on Skriath do it, he's not bad, especially since you need him anyway at A with 3f.
What's what?
Did you join recently?
Ah you joined today
yes
I would just build mauler L+first because you can take him from L+ to M with that mauler L+ I can guarantee you can't take him to M now @somber edge
i'm on S1055 now
Very good show your box and stage and did you redeem codes for your summons
no
And set WL good
yup
Are you Android ?
changed to the to ones in the beginner guide. I have it on that yes and iphone
If you want I can redeem codes for you fast with an app if not just go to the website and redeem them
I got the website save
I don't need any personal info
Where do I find some codes to use?
I'll listen to you guys I just like to understand why. Do you guys think a rare 160 mauler will help me more than a skriath 160?
And I mean as far as making immediate progress
what chapter are you
You don't want immediate progress you play for the walk not the sprint
ty
Np
actually, post box as well
@somber dock yes, but I can get compounding rewards by making at least some immediate progress. And I don't see how M skriath would cripple my long term progress. Again, I'm not disagreeing with you guys I'm just trying to understand
Just say get 8/8 copies on kren and never another chicken copy for a month then you have M chicken and no food for kren or other maulers
Does anyone know why when I post a picture on my phone to discord I can't see it, but I can see it on my laptop?
what chapter are you
10-40
I have pulled 1 and I did not get him from summons I HCP him lol
literally anyone at M in chp 10 will greatly help, but I am warning you he will completely fall off sooner than you expect
Don't sink your fodder into him
He doesn't even have mauler L+ food for M that's the problem
My biggest gripe with this game so far is how hard it is to pull specific heros early on. I've played like 10 of these copy cat games before and all them have a lot of hero selection cards you can force build whoever you want. This is miserable pulling 4 rowan and 5 skriath my first 2 days of playing.
Ya but he's support. Not helping me currently. I'm relying on a rare carry to push campaign which is BS
His si is amazing
U dont have him 
Fact I have to use a rare fodder as carry is lame and they're lucky I'm a try hard but most people would just quit at this point
Most do or they make L's and speed to ch 13 and get stuck trust you will thank your self if you keep playing
im glad i played this game 3 years early if not i quit already 
Is that ur other acc?
this account is chp28???
Yup
ohhh wait this is LB box only lol

cant play more than one acc 
^ yea this my full box
So..what do I do..I feel like skriath crit buff and cc would really help me right now lol
this box is chp28????
Yea almost 29, well half way
It's only 2 and a half weeks it's not amazing I also made a few bad investments( only got AR and lab pass)
skriath is pretty good but there are better options if ur on early chapters 
10-40 impossible with my shit account lol
@rugged niche better option of heroes I actually have?
I felt the same way with 27-56
Drop ur heroes 
Just took awhile 🤣


Whales is pushing me out in LB
if you didn't show me the stage number, I would have guessed late 30, early 40 based on your attempts 
Really damn 😅
How I have 4A heroes tho
None of the prios built for ch30
Just going off number of attempts my guy 
Yea that stage took me forever 😅
Oh I see what you mean I'm slow
1k attempts for this early is wild
@somber dock I'm 3 days in a still stuck on ch10..theres no way I'm mismanaging resources and I am trying all formations and combos. I just don't get how people could get further than this in 1 day. There has to be a game mode with insane resources I'm neglecting because I don't know about it.
Candy crush?
No! LOL
I'm indirectly complimenting your progress based on your box; I feel like you should be struggling more haha
I was just pointing out that 1k attempts is usually for late 30 chapters with charm and luc comps 
Oh I'm extra slow I thought it was bad xd
Thanks 

I was struggling in ch 27 200 attempts on almost every other stage (with enough tries anything possible )
The candy crush and shadow invasion suck but give Hellas good resources
I've maxed them both
You've finished both 3* everything?
Yes
Oh ig you can only do parts of it
That's why I'm frustrated a d feel like I should be further advanced
Show me the stage your ln
Don't compare your self to others it's all luck dependent
I've seen ppl in ch 10 with M Damion and he just carries or any aw hero can get you to ch 14+
This game is just RNG based on every aspect
I'ma sleep so GL I'll help tomorrow.
Lol gdi I just got my 4th nevanthi. So now I have 4 rowan, 4 nevanthi, 5 skriath, zero carries.
I have 0 nevi 1 Rowan 2 chicken 😭
What's an aw hero
Ah damn
So should I take my nevanthi to M? Or same deal. Feels like her healing mirael could help
@somber dock ok but I mean I have the copies to go to M
So should I start the path to take nevanthi to M her healing could help?
I would only take a carry or Rowan to M for there si
The rest would be get L+ fodder first
Ok..I guess I should just reroll my account all I'm pulling I unlimited supports. Really frustrating that you can't force build a proper carry by playing the game correctly lol
I'm in the opposite boat of you
Hi everyone I've probably asked this before but I'd appreciate any recommendations for a lineup up for campaign (im currently on chapter 20-21) hellscape etc...I'm always seeing online about team synergy and best teams for different Modes and events..these are the characters I have currently I've probably leveled them wrong or got the wrong ones in resonating crystal
Nothing looks wrong there
Besides making the other daimon legendary?
2 day old acc, any recommendations on what I should be doing? new player btw
Looks fine for me 
noice tyty
ive seen some horror stories about daimon not being L+ (not having enough copies) , but does this really matter for me rn?
Put those / on crystal if u got slot and upgrade that lyca
As long as he is on ur wishlist its fine u got lots of L u doin good
ty for all the help ^^

If u struggle on campaign just rotate and experiment formations, if none works then take a break for a day week , and wait till ur afk timer reaches max time for tons of resources 
Can anyone help me beat this boss lvl?
got pretty lucky with a faction summon :P
Try this one fawkes might take someone on his coffin before dying and really need shem to ult twice thats the win for sure 
i remember this stage ... ive been stuck on this one aswell back then i know it took me lots of replay just to finish this one 
@radiant idol can u still use merc?
No
The reason for bringing light to the Free to Play (F2p) acct is to show that you don't have to pay to be great and enjoy this challenging game. And if you do feel like spending (P2P) , it gives you a idea of what you need to beat the levels without the added benefit...
We are all in this together!
Instead having Lucius use rosaline keep trying rng gonna do its thing
u gotta keep trying like 100 retries 
If it still doesn't work like shem ulted twice already and nothing happened u gotta stop campaign and wait till swap daimon gotta wipe their asses
Stop making legendaries
y
It spreads fodder so when the times right to ascend you can’t
i made my main team legendary :\
All you can do is stop now ig
ye
What does ur wish list look like?
That’s 👍🏾
should i just be getting a bunch of elite+s?
any advice?
Nara isabella if you have her. Swolise isnt that good for campaign at L iirc
who should I put in for asolise?
Farael
Try brutus miskha farael daimon nara a few times. If it doesnt work after 10x ish tried, you could try swapping miskha for thoran
tyty
Twins ? So u can use a different merc than her 
Mortas to M si20
Better Mishka, si209e60
Better astar, palmer, swap talene for Swolise and max her
If there's no Alna build her as well, highest priority
for some reason, i don’t have the hero swap option. do you have to be at a specific stage or level to get it?
It will be open on Saturday, literally click calendar in the bottom corner
Anniversary events haven't started yet
Shd I switch wukong with Marrow or scarlet? For general campaign use
- You cant swap celestial hero for lb hero
- Morrow is useless
- I'd say it's better for you to grab copies of some daimon if you can
Show your herobox and we'll help you out
Alright, important question, do you have the right wishlist in tavern (place where you summon heroes)
Current wishlist
Holy moly, what server are you in? I'd honestly recommend making new account
There is not much here and wishlist is super wrong, in this channel #classic-questions you have pinned beginners guide, check it
server S913
ah cool thx
Okay so definitely make new account on the newest server
You are in older server than me, so you should be around ch43 right now, check out beginners guide and start on newest server
Does server affect gameplay or gacha?
Various of gamemodes are around server or region (few servers) so now you're competing everywhere against ppl stronger than me
So basically you stand no chance in every single competetive mode
competitive modes are that important?
They give the best rewards and after ch42 there's no reason to push campaign tbh, you need some place to have fun and compete with others
You can get similar account in few hours of playing, but with right heroes and mindset
And on brand new server where everyone just started like you
ah, ic so higher server numbers are newer?
Yes sir, just go to settings and search for "switch server"
But first please read the guide, at least check wishlist there
Building the right heroes from beginning is crucial
Oh cool thanks a lot
Np, you came in right time since it's anniversary of the game going on and plenty of rewards to help you start new account easier
One more thing, how do you get hypogean units? A lot of them look cool but I haven't gotten one yet frm the tavern
They do drop in tavern, but rarely, sometimes from purple stones as well, but mostly you get them via stargazer, where you choose what hero exactly you're summoning for
It is more mid/late game thing, for now you need many many 4 factions heroes
Stargazer? Is that late game as well?
From mid til forever I guess
Like here I have twins
But it's not something you should really bother yourself with in the beginning
Oh ic, I really wanted that time hypogean looking character
Zolrath, you're going to build him at some point, but not now
Can we get older dimensional units? Like collab ones such as Ainz or joker?
Yeah you can also later on 
Oh cool
For now make new account, set right wishlist, use active promo codes and get to ch 9/10 today
I am a stuck here after around 30+ tries. Not sure if the level difference is the problem or my comp. I just started doing graveborn faction pulls focusing on Grez and Silas (Up until now i only hunted wilder heros)
Is this no daimon challenge ? 
I think i have like 2 or 3 copies of daimon total lol
I focused Wilders so yeah i never got around getting daimon but now only focusing on graveborns
if you focus on wilders, you MUST have mishka. She is no1 priority and will have you a lot
any tips? been stuck on this level for many many tries. this is the closest attempt i've been able to od
Put Oden infront of Isabela
^this or nara in same same spot
Swap palmer and Oden positions then swap oden to Nara of Oden does not work
Also feel free to try your trial heroes. Those have unlimited uses. Make the most out of em
Yes she is one of my favorite heroes but my luck with her is god awful.. I will be getting her out of the hero choice pulls now that I have unlocked it
yeah, ive tried using pretty much every hero/hero position combo you can think of. I will try to put oden in front of isabela.
im happy none of you trashed me for the mirael position. having her there is the only way i can even remotely make it work
Mirael
Rowan
Palmer
Nara
Oden
@somber edge
Try this maybe
Consider yourself trashed 
lol, im happy to show you attempts with her on the backline. its completely hopeless

FL mirael is wired but if it works for you don't fix it lol
any tips?
Iv been stuck on this stage for 1 day+ and tips or comps?
Try
thoran
Damion
Oden
Rowan
Brutus
isn't that what i have rn?
No
FINALLY! no idea mae did anything seeing as she didnt do any damage, but beat it first try with her in that spot
You have
Thoran
Brutus
Damion
Rowan
Oden
@somber dockdo you know why Mae let me win this fight? im reading her skills and dont really see it as she did like no damage
30% def prolly was enough
Probably her ult when she got revived she feared them all away
And her sp ability
well either way..freaking finaly beat that dang level
Told you just takes moving stuff around your never stuck till the game says you are
you know what, i hadn't tried mae since i brought my level sync over 100. i bet getting her 101+ added a benefit
i wonder if that passive fallen flame unlocked at 101
Her sp probably helped you had 81
waaiiit a sec..my mirael is hitting significantly harder all the sudden. does Mae buff her damage somehow?
Read her sp
what does sp mean
I think it stands for special power bit it's the think all the aw heroes come with
the bottom middle one?
Dis 1
whats the hypogean in-combat factional buff
ok so if they're all hypogean does that mean they also get the the 25% atk bonus the same faction bonus??
Wait no they don't they only get the 5 at the bottom
ok that makes perfect sense then. my mirael ult on crit would leave enemies with like 10% hp left. so putting in mae let mirael 1 shot which totally changed the battle
either way to 30% crit strikd dmg and crit chance for mirael is what made the difference. thats huge. so far i haven't lost a single fight in ch11 now lol..fml
@somber docki got 18 rare factional hero cards..would that let me get M chicken?
Maybe I would use twords GB Bec you will be prioritizing them for awhile
@somber edge
Just got him, shd I replace anyone for him?
hi, got some good units on the new acc
Just pulled that new awoken hypogean bird chick. Is she any good in campaign with my current comp? Her revive seems pretty cool
Could someone help me build a decent team?
Any tips for this?
Even dying with merc


any advice been stuck on it for so so long
Probably bec it's a Ainz Merc
What merc should i choose
How to unborrow
U can't, use that scarlet tho
I'm still at 27 haven't had time to play today
u can revoke regular mercs, not the ones from mentor
27 is hard ish 28 is easy but 29 damn hard lol
What should my formation be

just put your biggest carry on backline away from estrilda charge

😜
any ideas?
Swap thoran out for lyca
any changes in positions?
Also swap 1&2 and 3&5
alrighty
It all stage dependent not a three is not one generalized that will win
yeah but a good one for everything
like the best that i can do
There is not a good one for everything
yeah but the best one
I wish it where that simple 
It depends on your stage
chapter 6
I don't know what chapter 6 looks like 

omg that worked tysm
nice

It be like that 
now seriously, your best bet is probably hogan estrilda daimon rowan monkey atm
It's ch 6 anything works 
sure, but that one at least makes some sense 
Monkey solo untill Ch 7
1v5 machine
Bro ch 29 rough idk how I'ma do it without any Rowan 🤣
invest into grez or oden probably
Yea I need food then I can 203 grez Oden is 201
can go for e30 in addition, cheap stats and you want those investments anyway
I need 1 more for star

