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maetria is a trial unit, you dont need to upgrade her
you replace her once trial is done
im not sure yet haha, maybe lyca silas or rosaline
no
ascend mirael to L+, ira to L+, and ankhira to L+
you won’t be using them but the point is to get 5 total L+ or higher (currently you only have 1, who is Daimon) so that you have a higher level cap on resonating crystal, and fodders are the safest option to do so because you get a lot of them and its not a permanent investment as you feed them to other units later
=earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
These 13 units are the fodder units I'm talking about fyi
I am stuck on this battle.
i’d replace rosaline with nara and then give it a try, maybe moving nara to the middle to grab isabella if it doesnt work
nara is 4th row middle column on the 2nd picture of ur hero box btw
I tried swapping her in for Rosa and Rowan and neither worked.
did u put her in reso crystal or just slotted her lv1?
She is reso crystal and full equipment
ah
replace her with oden
if that doesnt work either then go back to rosaline but make her follow daimon
1.your daimon should be the highest lvl in your team
2. nara is ultimate counter to isabella, if shes to slow to hook and cc - give her duras call
3. try to get 1 copy of brutus, it will help you with tanking
Daimon is basically level capped right now. I could push him to 120, but unfortunately the fourth copy has been elusive. Should I just go ahead and level him past L+ then use the rest if my faction scolls for Graveborn during the next rotation and hope for the best? I have Brutus on my wishlist, but I have not been getting Maulers from my pulls.
you cant get him l+ without that 4th copy
also imo you shouldnt get him mythic until you already have 5 l+ already on resonating crystal
1$ pack with daimon might help you in that case
daimon is probably the only unit early game you want to be as high as possible, theres no point in not investing into him a few fodders
I think I already got that one. Is it the Special deal in the merchants section?
yep, the one which gives you a "bonus" on 1st purchase
I guess I'll just take a break for a while and wait for some more hero xp and and push his L Evo as high as possible and see if that works.
@runic bolt 
how's your gear looking?
you can dm me damage log from that stage and ill try to figure out some additional options
is my zolrath over invested
Merc an L one
yeah thats what im thinking fffuuuuuuuuuu fml
he survives long enough to get an ult off and freezes torne consistently, sometimes torne and oden
dies right after tho
Can you watch my replay? It might be way to late though
i cant watch anyone; that tuesday update made everything outdated/cant play
Put some gear on him and see if he can survive, he'll usually be the one to freeze the ghost lady too, gets it done faster; though his survival is not crucial but can make it take longer - it'll still work, might be what you're facing. Also is Oden teleporting(trying to) Zol?
maybe complaining publicly satisfies the complain strat everyone mentions 
thanks let me see, will report back in a min
Which team should I use I'm in 13-1 rn
Also I got a chest that gives me any hero who should I get
alright i think i need to put gear on kaz thanks for the tip my guy 
might have to merc one instead
the ghost lady really do be the issue; kaz needs to freeze
Why merc? Put someone else's T3 
Unless you only have T4s or resonance, you whale 
i dont have free t3 except on rowan 
i am ashamed 
i'll merc and reflect on my behavior

thanks again btw appreciate the tip 
No problem!
Have you read the pins (beginner's guide) under #classic-questions ? That should solve half your problem.
I’m brickwalled. If I put some people on the resonating crystal and swap my team will it make a difference? I’m stuck in the kings tower too
Does furniture have an auto sell feature and should I sell epic and rare furniture
Put wukong in front of estrilda to proc an early clone from her cc.
Yes to 1st. No to 2nd. Save epic furn to fill out empty spaces in your rooms. Safe to sell rares
You were so right about that
once u get enough legendary furn you can start autoselling epics
Oh I just realized I asked in the wrong chat I'm so sorry😣
I was also wondering if I should just continue waiting for better summons or if I can beat this. I hit a wall in tower and arena too😃
in general you dont want to put any squishy hero in front of athalia, thats instalose, place brutus or rowan (if he has enough dodge) there and build your setup around that
deficit is really smal, you should be able to comfortably beat the stage
Do I have any better options for beating this stage?
@tulip dagger
I do but only epic
Replacing silas with him would be good, silvina will target and oneshot your int heroes, rowan leaves his cart behind at least
Rowan mid, daimon pos 5
Can I help my guild mate out here or is she hard stuck
Thanks!
Oh shit I don't have a rowan sorry I have 5 accs I get confused sometimes
Its a pretty messed up account.. you dont use twins in campaign
Problem is he either had wrong wishlists or really bad luck and ascended a lot of bad units
Missing good heroes too..
He shouldnt be stuck in ch 24 with those levels
Agreed but Idk how to help I suggested 1 wbaden 2 lucius 3 daimon 4 rowan and 5 oden but they Insta die she said
Yeah he messed up ascensions and levels with that
Belinda is his carry with 40 mote levels and engravings etc invested, M daimon lvl 200 cant keep up wih that
So what do I suggest??
Awtalene/brutus
Lyca/rowan/daimon
Restart
He can get to that stage in 2-3 weeks max
suggest restarting and in two-three weeks she'll pass the stage and will be way ahead
Wait huh 8k left side not right?
With way better heroes
35 levels deficit is low
daimon can comfortably clear around 100 deficit at that stage
I mean I'm on the left side not on athalia side where would I put rowan and Brutus?
and if thats not an option?
Check the pinned wishlists, suffer until he can get some other heroes to A to break crystal level and save fodders until he can fully ascend a useful hero
He will be stuck at this stage for some time
Rosa and daimon are the only good things in that acc, rowan L is way too low and Awlene first Aw is a bad choice
Investing into daimon Si until +20 might help too
If he decides to run belinda he should use her with rosa but no idea which team for him
thanks!
infront of her
oh can i reach that in like 2 weeks? bcuz she said i cant say shit cuz im stage 12 😐
so i mightve said ill pass her in 2 weeks i shouldnt have
yep, 2-3 weeks of gameplay should be that stage quite easy
f2p or with spending money?
f2p
Awesome! thanks
just follow the general guides and invest your resources into high return heroes
i will thanks can i speed it up with money tho? 😅 i bet money on this lmao
for sure you can, theres guide for that in faq channel
thanks
Paying money to not have to pay money. My fellow gambler😔
Any tips on how to beat
No matter who I put there, they die immediately. And my tanks get blitzed
=spendingmoney
Priorities for Spending Money
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828
You will win vs those shitty heroes easily tbh
Is it a race to a certain chapter or time?
Help
This is what I use idk if it helps
Any tips for this stage
does anyone here know how to clear trift stage 300? idk how to counter mehira
Been stuck here tried like 10+ diff variations of diff comps all get rolled lmk if anyone has any ideas
Can i use shemira as fodder to get daimon to legendary? (I have 2 more copies for mythic i just need l+ fodder
And i can raise the level on daimon so i can get out of being hardstuck ch14
No you don't have enough Damion to make L+ you will be stuck there not smart to make L's
Save that till 7/8 copies for Damion
@runic bolt @gray sparrow hey just wanted to close the loop on this; turns out the 3f is what was giving me problems
thanks for the input earlier! much appreciated 
What do i do now then?
Wait
Im hardstuckkkkkkkk
Use fodder to make L+ fodder break lvl cap of 160,
That's part of this game 🙃
Ima just play candy crush@somber dock i did that but i need the blue things
Im hard stuck rn aswell
The exp and idk how to get more of it
Show your box and stage 👍
Im good on stardust but not on blue stuff
GOTTA AFK
Save xp chest don't waste them so early they go up in value over time
try
athane brutus oden nara daimon
you can swap nara/daimon positions to see which ever one is better to stop for a few seconds
I have AW maetria and AWthane
Why is Brutus in the back and Damion same lane with estrilda
@somber dock i have tried everything man
he's not and he's not
oh you were talking to the other guy 🤣
I even put palmer frontline😭
^@dry apex
I saw your text lel
Don't use him then 🤷
first world problems quite literally 
Reset your Oden and get your aw thane to 160 not oden
No problem man, glad you got I figured out!
why is your oden the highest leveled. why is your brutus backline? there's so many issues there lol
try running
brutus daimon thane palmer oden
@somber dock A thane is 140 cap
he can't it's only L he can only go to 140
@dry apex who should highest level be?
@gray sparrow you were all along lmao zol was over-invested
@runic bolt 
Just all 140?
Spread your lvls from Oden to lvl up your team also I forgot he only 140 😴🤦
@somber dock okidoki

And what does maetria even do she sucks
Also stop running Rowan and Brutus how they are lol swap them
imagine over-investments being an issue 
@somber dock i have rowan front since if he isnt A thane just gets rolled
it do be like that my guy 
brtus
awthane
Oden
Rowan
Nara
@pale kettle
I’m still jealous of your Zol. Being over invested is usually a good thing (not in this case)
Okr
Best I could come up with ;-; idk how good oden is as a carry so this prob won't work
happy to merc for u bbg
His Rowan can't front
he's not at his point. he's just enough help with teleports to let daimon do his thing
Swap for brutus ig
Yes

Can a level 121 daimon do enough damage?
I found Oden sucks at 203 (at least on my alt)
should be able to if oden buys him the time.
@pale kettle
You will regret Damion L Bec he could be Stuck three for weeks of you don't pull a copy
@somber dock i got chest brudda
You want to save those for A brudda
He's working pretty decent for me
In trift at least
^ pulling this down don't want to scroll back up at reset
I BEAT ITTTTT
Nice
you're banking on oden sending esta down, daimon dodging esta charge and killing lol
so just keep retrying lol
Tysm@somber dock @dry apex
I had to frontline rowan since A thane getsbinstakilled without rowan potions
I've ran it a few 100 times he just gets 1 tapped any where but 5
ya i figured. mirael hits position 3. so he'll die quickly most likely unless you put nara on 4 to pull her to stop that. basically buys oden a couple seconds to do his thing
I gave up when I pulled this off 😴
Let's hope bro stays stuck long enough for me to beat this 
I would merc it I dont have the patience for that
I Merced 24-60 I had 2k attempts on it lol
@winter moss hey you need to push

Damnnn
Go hack a dolphin he aint getting passed
And here I was thinking my 132 tries was bad...
This how 25 be treating me lol I'm just unlucky not to have Rowan but 1 week progress is good imo
Oh wow a week and there, very nice
8 days in 2 hrs it will be 9
This is a neat little feature
But I hit 25-1 on day 7
Your already doing better than most new players they give up when there comp doesn't work in 4 tries so respect
What is the best to take knowing that I am early (chap 9) and I am in need of powder to advance I am stuck
Is there more options or just those 6
Yo what will be the best team for campaign?
Just 6
But i have other chest too
Shards are the best for later you want to stock up on them
@somber dock and here
Ask in questions idk the diamond value fully yet 🤦 sorry
Np !! Thanks
I am, just got to ch27
Help me you fkn whale 😭/j
I'm proud of my not-apprentice apprentice 
Not-apprentice apprentice 
Best try in about 100 so I'ma just RNG it lol
yar it be like that sometimes
Forgot the picture 🤦
Is there anything I can change?

Talismane was the trick
just positioning/rng sometimes. you need oden to teleport a couple times, and some dodges 
i've realized if you can get to a 1v2 or 1v1, you can win. 😄
haha not too bad
Yea it was sub 300 I'm happy
shit gets worse, sometimes lol
I have a ss somewhere of 2134😭
that was being stupid lucky with 1 of the lineups too i remember 
@old token sorry for the ping but we pushing again
god damn your whale is only 4 stages behind me 
He has been playing for 4 days 
kraken
He said he just want pretty heores with pretty stars
... ridiculous... but ok no more idle nonsense here before we get yelled at 😄 lmk if you need more random help haha
Alr I'll @ you tysm

I read somewhere that Rowan can counter Silvina, does that require a specific positioning, or a higher level skill?
its not a counter, but rather that rowan has a thing where he cant take more than 10% of his hp in 1 hit if he has energy, so assassins cant 1 shot him, and eventually he gets dodge so he can just dodge attacks outright
Gotcha, thanks. I just can't figure out how to get her to go to him instead of someone else
she goes for a mage with the lowest hp iirc
so replace silas and she’ll target rowan
Roger that, thanks, got him targeted now
don't listen that troll my dear, Boosted already said it right. Silva targets the mage with lowest deff
Read the wrong one lol😭
...
Try taking off all of rowans gear besides boots and wep
That works (with keeping Silas in)
what heroes do i put on resonating crystal?
Rowan Oden are really good
thx
@dry apex what I'm in doing wrong here lol
skip the nara there, run oden and pray he drains isabella
Alr
Wait avant do this Bec silviane
oh. didn't see silv... reeee
do you have aezizh?
hm.. you can try putting daimon to 1, putting nara to 5 and oden to 3.. if it works nara will hook silv as soon as she teleports to oden
Thane goes to fera
Hmm ok 🙂
he might live, it will be an rng thing
Worked but Damion got rolled and I have no healers 
rolled by who? gimme a breakdown
game info i mean lol
wait wut.. where'd your brutus go? lol
Took hims out for mind shield let me swap that 😅
It's hard when your best healer is e Rowan and e+silas
its hard when you keep refusing to think xD
That nara is pulling the silv
but they die anyway cuz she leaps back
I die no matter what lol
I wonder why 
Share your wisdom then 🙃
hm.. try this, silvinia should jump to rowan? since she goes to the thing with lowest defense? just remove her gear let her die and use her cart lol
rowan brutus ferael daimon oden

He is e he heals for 10k healing per pot 😭😭
can be the difference between living on daimon or dying. it's the energy you want anyways
she's a sacrifice for oden to live lol
I'd put Oden on #3 and daimon #5 so silva leaps the fuck outta daimon
doesn't silv jump the lowest defense person? ie: rowan in that situation?
She won't leap Damion bec Oden is mage 😭
or reversed cuz I assume Isabelle wipes your team
You sent it dumbass

that's the point u ds
oh mage only, rip didn't think about that..
"Enemy mage" Damion is tank
read it again and try to understand before you answer ...
you want give daimon time to snowball
so putting oden away from daimon drags silvina away from your carry...
She jumps won't leap Damion wtf you mean 😭 she goes for mage or lowest you want me to sacrifice oden then issa will kill my team
she jumps to the other side of daimon, so it takes time to walk over
💀
think he's saying sacrificing oden to give time for daimon to snowball lol
Goodluck maju 
I see but issa will kill my team
that's what he was saying 
i think most of these situations, i literally used aezizh to stop 1 of them... honestly not sure atm lol
Let me re read 😅
don't bother reading bro, keep talking 
thank you btw 
imagine starting over on new server to make same shit u did on previous one XD
good night fellas
he's gotten much further! lol
Either way Damion gets killed by iss or gets jumped I ran this for about an hour earlier bec it's what I used last time
attitude and especially lack of patience remain the same
also dragon, just try multiple variations of what i said.. something might work honestly not so sure with this situation
Time to afk to get resources then 
eh? i see no issue with his questions, lol. he helped me plenty when i first started again, i'm just reversing the tables now 
Resources are not a problem I got no copies for heores I need like 18k dust and 200 mil xp
Missed this thanks 🙂
Try
Nora
Daimon
Thoran
Brutus
Oden
Damion can't front 😅 tried many times
with nara pulling isa he might be able to
nothing else except fodder unit should be hitting him
maybe ferael
Same problem 😅
btw nara at 4 is pointless
the point of nara there was to stop silv or isa
Helps with fera fearing my Damion- with fear I can't snow ball
that's just fear dodge rng lol
😅
Putting thoran on backline outside cheese makes no sense.
Insta dies
It slows down silv and let's Damion snow ball easier idk just used lostvayne suggestion
Jeez... I gave u rng comp. Run the macro and chill
Try with ferael first
Yea I plan on it but Damion getting 1 shot is not gonna RNG out but ok
Alr
Same results just insta dies alr I'll run it for an hour 😅
Try other beasts also. Talismane would be perfect if u had
he's got talismane
Yea I'll swap tali on
Problem is Damion ain't last 2 secs 😅
He also get feared so no ult
The idea of that setup is to extend immunity of Brutus. However to make it works daimon has to survive till the target goes on Brutus. I'd he kept on dying then last chance is swapping him with thoran
Alr
If that fails that means u will have to wait get more lvls and gear..
My Damion has the best gear posible for ch 25(unless I pull another T2 chest out of ToT)
Do u see my lineup in formations by the chance ?
I don't follow you or have you added but it's probably to old what's your id I will follow you rq
U had me added
On s69 like a month ago before I re started
just hurry up and get a luc to M 
I'm no 🐳(yet)
Bet
Yea to old there not there 
Welp then... was curious what lvl I had in that chapter
Do you have me added? My formations are fairly recent
Not on this acc what's the id?
146515015
You had Rowan just like my old acc 😭
Imao... with 250 I was deep in ch31
He is stuck on 25-60 😭 idk how 
He's helped me a lot through those chapters loll I've started using him less recently so you can use my formations in later chapters ;-;
I have only pulled 1 copy
How's your Grezhul btw?
E+ 10 copies
Furnitures ?
Ascend him make i20 Try to make 3f and swap thoran with him
In campaign no
Another one
Idk Abt this waste of fodder ATM right... 
I could M Silas would he be helpful idk his si but will set me back bec I'm a 3 from A and 1 A from Oden
He just insta dies for me I use him in trift and treasure scramble but thats about it
Oh and a lot of bosses
Keep spreading not confirmed shit copied from meta slaves 👍
Ch 35
And what Abt this?
My gregory is big boi now
Nice will si 20 silas help here or does he need furn / si 30@steady scroll
If it works for you it works lol, I'm not good enough at the game so I was just talking from experience
He works but it's more rng. Boss wise yes, you'll feel huge difference with 9f but Frontline wise he is ok'ish
You need alna though right? So dragon doesn't really benefit from ascending him yet
0 alna 👍
Fair alna power spike is 9 furn correct
Not alna but her neighbour xd
Been rnging it the whole time maju no luck ig it's time to play wilder only acc
It's called AFK arena for a reason 
Till ch31 it's no brainer gameplay. U quick set lineup, turn macro on and go shower, dinner, or w/e tf u want
😭
Any lineup will work at some point depending of your investment. Doesn't work today, repeat tomorrow
Yea I'ma run this and go make food and shower and get some sleep 
This is the best I've got 😅
Doubt that lineup gonna work but gl.
Time for me, gn
I doubt it aswell but your thing is getting me max 600k dmg
U lack on finesse 
why is 41-19 so dumb
wait til 20 
and then 24 
24 double flora, paired with raku manual, and topped off with luc rng 

damn
I’m struggling so I just need to get them to lvl 100 and I should be able to beat it or is something wrong with my lineup
Which ones should i use, i just started playing yesterday
=earlygame and guides in #classic-questions
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Try swapping frontline positions
Can a really cool and strong guy help me with making a team comp😁👍
So theres no one tryna help? Ok👌
Anyone have any comps for this ? I’m stuck
Hey I got a question about how to destroy a shield team?
what is shield team
So I’m trying to beat the arcane labyrinth and the end thing has a bunch of characters that make shields and they keep timing me out of the match
use maetria
Use a good merc
I believe I used the wrong channel, but should I change Vedan for Palmer?
yes replace him with palmer then move daimon to frontline
Alright
what's the best choice from this chest? or should I just save it?
Why does this dude out damage my whole team lololol
So weird
Why he too op
@slate aspen put talene in there and yeah change vedan for palmer
Thats normal talene not aw, decent healbot but who should she replace? 
Black ball is early game carry
Captain here
Oden and lyca were ascended too early, should wait for 8 copies and ascend fodders in the meantime
Give daimon +20 when possible
Brutus into rc, try running
Brutus/lyca
Daimon/silas or Awsolise/oden
=afkhelper not helping?

Yeah, mercs or specifically haelus with a red star e60 to break shields but simply overpowering is easier lol
Dont send single heroes, not a lot of use from seeing those.. post your entire box and the stage you are stuck on/need advice
Save until 3/4 daimon rowan raku or 7/8 copies of other heroes to finish them off
Also reset non fodders (except brutus) and level your L+ heroes if you dont want to be stuck at lvl 120 rc
alr much appreciated 🙏
Np np
121 unlocking new/better skills might help you out already

Bruh
Ight made a new account with a proper wishlist and everything who i use?
Vurk 
=earlygame
Wu lvl 100 and push until you get a decent carry
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Here's where I am. Struggling to figure out a team.
Help I keep getting stuck and can’t upgrade anybody right now. Should I reset someone or change my lineup? I usually use Mishka, Oku, Scarlet, Roseline, and Solice
Stuck !! Can I have help
Send your entire box
Maetria might actually be bad at this spot, daimon gets low on frontline and her passive kills him lol
Hm show me the stat screen after a fight, is daimon even doing much or is mirael doing the dmg?
So he is helping but maetria isnt
Try replacing her with mishka
Mishka/daimon
Rowan/mirael/silas
Weird team but you need more heroes..
Literally 1 pv
Yep but the early is hard..
Try more, this game involves a lot of rng
my priority as a character to have are who
Wishlists pinned in #classic-questions and heroes from =ascension101
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
Thank you!
do I have a team that can beat this and maybe progress decently in the Celestial tower? I basically just chose random heroes to throw in RC
tbh no; bare minimum is alna 309
until then youll have to rely on rc surplus
mauler and cele are slowest in general; just wait for it 
never ever ever build solely for tower
Gotcha, thanks 
could try take out the fat armor thing and put in wukong otherwise just wait 
Been stuck here for some time, anyone idea?
Just afk it out. Try pulling the ferael or the Belinda with Nara. Don't know who's dealing the DMG. Maybe place thoran in front of grez instead of athane so grez doesn't steal ur sub dps's atk.
Alright thanks
Brutus gains 7 seconds of immunity at 141, so that's somn to think about
Stuck on 34-4. Lucretia is doing her job easily. Other 2 teams just don't do anything to enemies.
Any ideas what i can do?
Maybe i should build someone or invest in heroes i have. Also still have swap scroll. Haven't played last year so maybe there new OP heroes
T3 i would remove daimon for thoran, swap raku with oden and maybe replace oden with fera
T2 gets oden, replace fera for him and swap around so scarlet doesnt get charmed
Also brutus in for thoran
Like brutus/mishka
oden/rowan/scarlet backline
Raku wants cc for his +30 to proc and fera does that well with his aeo fears and haunting enemies
sadly but still 0 chances to handle the pressure. idk I've been trying to pass it hundreds of times with different comps. maybe my heroes just too weak
=afkhelper might help
Swap whane daimon?
makes it worse
palmer just insta dies
cuz of silvinia
might swap palmer for any gb just for the sake of synergy
or rowan if you have one
Ah damn didnt see her
Any advice?
@limpid sigil swap out palmer for a GB(not a mage) the take your gear off of brutus so silv attacks Brutus
Nvm putting Backline to Front made it ikd how
omg thankssss it took me only 15 tries with that
Np 👍
Ping me if you need help 
i will
I need all the help
With what exactly 🤷
Oh nothing too specific, mostly I just need to learn who does what so I know how to counter better. And that mostly comes from just playing and seeing what they do and reading skills.
Well that comes with reason character info and playing the game 😅
Like you said😅but if you have questions im here
Yeah I just gotta keep experimenting, seeing how it all works.
Is there anyone specific I could add to my Resonator? Got one spot open. I feel like Astar's heals could be useful, also maybe Eironn or Nemora.
Or should I just leave it open for now until I get hard stuck again?
Any tips for this stage
Anyone help ? Too hard 
I need three teams for ch.34
terrible box ngl, if u p2w that shit then consider is a waste
outta this mess I'd run daimon team, ainzbedo, scarlet
Im not p2w I just haven’t played in a while
show your box...
well u are overleved for ch34 so it shouldn't be an issue. start with the basics..
daimon 203 at least, also at least 203 grezhul (needs 209 but works as frontline with 203 also), Si30 Thoran>scarlet
haven't you got Lucretia yet ?
I have a basic purple Lucretia
rip
same as Thoran, Lucretia covers 1 lineup by herself so u have less to stress about
What’s 203 daimon? Level?
signature item +20, 3furnitures
Level 20 signature item 3 furniture
oh ok thanks
start over.
I've been playing for 1 month and I don't have many heroes
#1041161459935223828 message read it mate
you did fk up your progress and stopped from snowballing with ascending 2 many heroes including ones not useful anymore (or completely garbage)
How do I figure out what heros are on these teams?
well my dear, can't use suggested lineups because of fact that u lack on core heroes for each lineup. you gotta test which heroes suit your lineups best
This is what I’m thinking for my ainz team
the helpful fact is that each of those are carries so u basically build team around them
ainz + bedo are team in itself so just place 2nd frontline + merlin/rowan/haelus/other energy battery.
daimon is also 1 man army but he needs to survive till the ultimate spam so most important is sustainable frontline where brutus (normal) is best due to his immunity. Daimon + brutus are core, rest are suitable
more work u gotta have with Scarlet, she puts huge dmg but is squishy as hell, you dont have palmer nor estrillda and rosa is low so hm... u gotta think a lot about that one ;P
Ok thanks
get thoran 303 at least asap + Lucretia, it will make your life easier
Alr
Level up who next and use who?
what's the best relief force hero for my current lineup?
Help
Try to swap Thane and Daimon position
Both of you stuck on the same stage 
Huh it didn't work before in that position it did now welp thanks anyway
Not anymore 🙄
I have trouble against these stupid estrilda hogan stages
Dont put Daimon in front of Estrilda
Thanks for the tip
team still gets wiped for some reason 💀
little purple dudes killing me. any way to get to the backline?
Who came up with this
Unrelated to your question but dont upgrade heroes past E+
too late 💀
Yeah well, now you know
yeah, I can't get past this level man. And my deficit is so small too. How do people even do 100 level deficits lmfao
Try
Daimon
Grez
Lyca
Brutus
Oden
Probably mishka
Don't take my word on it tho idk how good some of the other heroes are at +10 sig

i keep getting wiped by the little purple dudes
Probably to restart bec you only get those on old server irrc
im on server 57, is that an old server?
Newest server is 1053 😅
I would recommend reading guides and starting over on a new server

aight i'll start over then 👍
Read the pins in #classic-questions
They have good info for newer players/ beginners guide to start over
yeah i alr did that, just didn't realize i was on a rlly old server
How do you get to server 1053 tho?
Did you last update your game in 2019 😭😭
uhhh no?
I'm sorry I got no clue I've never seen this 😅
i did drop the game for a while tho and just recently came back to try it again
oh wow
you're on test server
ohh i see, how do i get out of a test server then?
idk where you're based but I assume most countries iOS app store or Google play store would be the best place to start. otherwise find an APK site and download a version that says v1.111
this version?
weird, looks like 1.111 but with the test server (old) icon. global servers should be an icon of twins https://m.apkpure.com/afk-arena/com.lilithgame.hgame.gp
You need to download a VPN from what I. Reading
ok I'll try the apk and vpn 👍
the apk worked, thanks for the help @sly mist @somber dock 🙏
Nice I figured one would work nice
Lineup help
You can push very far with what you have =afkhelper
Use this
This website is awesome and I do like it, but I think I'm looking for a bit more direction than "just use this" -- Ideally I'd like to understand why and what makes these comps work, so I don't have to come to this channel as often 😓
Your general tanks should be thoran and brutus, because of their survivability, Daimon usually goes behind brutus. The other 2 team slots will be supports. Farael, oden, eironn, lyca, rowan and nara are the ones used most.
Eironn is for grouping so he goes back mid to pull in 3 enemies, farael stuns, oden teleports enemies and steals energy, lyca gives haste, rowan gives energy, so put him next to daimon, and nara pulls in the enemy across from her.
reading character descriptions always helps also trail and error is what I do
Been stuck here for some time, can anyone help me?
Help
nara or eironn instead of odin to pull mirael
guys, about to do my 2nd mythic (damien 1st) . any advise? (i have a folder ogi)
save fodder until you have 8 copies of unit to go straight to a
and read new player guide to find out which significant mistake you did already
😟
i'm stuck on cap 18. i thought than i shold do some ascension's to keep doing some progress
I beat it I'm stuck here now
any of those units at m wouldnt help you to progress significantly
ss the stage you are stuck on
show log
in general you want you want your brutus on daimon side
how much impact your silas does?
drop silas, bring fera or nara to cc linda
Still can't win
Raine screws me over
try to cc raine than 😄
i mean in general theres your core (in this case 4 units) and 1 slot you use to adapt to the stage bringing utility units like rowan, nara, lyca, eironn, ferael, etc
Would that abelinda do smth
beat 18 with merc, now i'm stuck here
you might try, but in general you want 1 carry per team, not 3
all you need to do is daimon to survive
daimon in most of the cases if backline carry unit, swap with mishka
can you show your box?
yep, seems fine
i would try with your comp, just swap mishka and daimon positions
alternatively replace wilders with aThane grez and oden/sylas
and bring more support units into RC in general
okay.
on topic of ascension: i shold let the heroes rooting on bag until i get 8 copies?
how many time it usually take? (considering bad rng)
Help pls
you can ascend a unit or two (preferably in different factions) to m if you encounter huge level cap issues, but try to avoid that if possible
Just gotta wait for xp my guy or keep running it till it works
Maybe try swapping your tanks around and your Oden and Damion
Ik there is a lot of M's wasted a lot of fodder trying things out lol
Any suggestions how to beat it this is the best I have atm
Who should i build up now? My fodders are on max lvl
Daimon 200
Okay, yeah i was planning on that but after that? My fodders are stuck on 160 so what to do next?
And i cant upgrade my daimon anymore bc of pentagram needs to be above 179
Come back here when you have done that
Maybe oden because hes closest to 8 copies
Okay
Damion behind Brutus then nara mid Lyca over thoran of you have it
above or instead of thoran
Instead of thoran
Help pls 🥲🥲
frontline daimon against lucius and concentrate all you damage in the top corner to kill him before the ulty
Damion dies to fast Bec I don't have a tanky enough supp I've tried this
I'll give it another try tho thanks
whos the biggest issue on that stage actually? might want to add nara into the mix to avoid daimon dying
Nemora and silv her heals are crazy and my main dps besides Damion is Oden and she jumps him then Lucius and nemora snowball heal the team till estrilda kills everyone
Tries lorsan for tether but I can't get it off fast enough
Idk how tf my friend cleared this lol
Ik Rowan ain't enable Damion that much with his cart right....
i dont remember that stage, but i did it fairly recently
maybe my clear would help you
149994684
Alright thanks
Sadly it won't Bec Rowan 😅
Literal every clear is Rowan and subbing him out is hards from my experience Bec gives energy and hp Plus hp when he dies
well, you might try grezh here for extra sustain
hes somewhy underrated early on
My grez is only e+ I could A him but saving for more emblems and 1 more card
Also need L+ food
I thinned out fodder trying to make Silas M wishing he would work
i feel like sylas is worst of the priority ones before investments
except thoran prolly
i assume you lack dodge from gear on fera to invest into him?
I'm making gear for fera ATM actually
small investment in his SI and gear might be a clutch on thats stage actlly
Yea he is si 10 atm ran out of gold emblems risking it for Silas 😅 someone said he could probably be decent sustain and I said I'll try it but it did not pay off
Working on faction swapping and ima T1 his boots
Used all my T1 and T2
actually can you give a damage log for that stage?
Yea here in a bit I'ma hop in the shower I got class in a few
Put Brutus front, rowan middle back
Who does thane go to?
Ig he got it
Dont make L/L+ heroes early if nobody told you yet
i did 😅
What you were recommended sounds fine
Wutus/eironn
Daimon/rowan/oden
Try more than once 
im to inpatient
=earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Then this game might not be right for you lmao
Good job
Will only get harder later
i know i just wanna reach chap 25 as quick as possible
Why?
stupid bet i made my pride is on the line
Thane jumps the dude that turns into bats
Try Oden over thane maybe
Also what artifact do you have on Damion and thane
Im stuck because ferael deals the most damage without ult and isabella 1 shots everyone if she ults
Anyone has recommendations?
show battle results + hero info
Maybe not Rowan FL at E+
If you able to kill issabelle I'm assuming thane goes to her right @pale kettle
Then put nara on the opposite of fera if that's true
now look at your investment and dmg between Oden and Daimon
these are details but at your stage are critical. until built, Oden job is CC so he doesn't require that gear.
Daimon on the other hand is your carry and should have ALWAYS priority with gear.
If you cant resist upgrading legendary items, do max 3* cuz then its not worthy due to price.
Need help with this floor
Hey maju I cleared ch 25 that team actually worked it took 987 attempts tho 🤣🤣
now into lineup, Thane probably jumps on Isabelle or Ferael (idk who has lower hp there) whats more important, your Oden and Daimon lose frontliner since Thane goes brrr. so... since your box is empty... i have 2 options in my maind
positions as follows
- Thoran, Brutus, Oden, Thane/Rowan, Daimon
- Rowan, Daimon, Oden, Silas, Thane
try get ferael and focus on GB (thane will soon falls off)
I think issa Bec fera fucks his team
It's cool I added thoran and won
Alright so I would nara the fera
ofc she does, its not about countering 1 carry. you have 3 there
Brutus
Thane
Nara
Rowan
Damion
Okay i will try
i want to see results for that one xD @pale kettle
Should i reset oden and give daimon more levels and keep oden 140?
Daimon always on max lvls ahead
I would
@steady scroll okay
Oden does not need to be past 140 atm
Hop off me maju it will work 🤣
If he lvls Damion to 160 and rina that it should clear
Within 50 tries xd
u max Daimon and lvl up others only when you see that others must hit certain lvl in order to lvl up Daimon more
Close
How tf you Brutus get no dmg
Spike ball really carries
Not 1 swing 
@somber dock stunned by ferael and grezhul and shemira
D3finetly
its mostly all about lvls here, if you keep your 1 carry ahead he will 1v5. you will see huge spike when u make daimon mythic and signature item +20
Tbf there was only 1 left
Been stuck here for some time, tried many formations, its lyca who dies because of thane and the rest is still alive with a good amount of HP

how are you still ch18 ? even Dragon is 26 
What is this comp 😭
Damion getting cc by Arden thoran chilling Hogan chilling bro running 4 tanks
tf u want from him ? he definitely follows the things we discussed 100 times in the past xd
I thought Ive seen it all 
Bro i had to🤣🤣 i tried really much
Yeah im not grinding this game
I've never seen the 4 tank method
Yeah it isnt a good method
Brutus, Thoran, Oden, Ferael, Daimon
I'm actually dead this comp takes the cake 😭😭😭
1 lineup, cant wait to see you guys facing this xD
Im not even ready for 2
Fair luc 5 pull go brr
at that point your lucretia will be probably mythic so 5 pull ain't gonna work since she'll keep dying
Maju I haven't even pulled a Rowan yet 😭
good, fuck rowan. overpriced shit
He has good deals on the low low
I've never used rowan in campaign before 3 teams
Wtf you play the game with bru
silas > rowan
Yeah i tried this some time, its maknly farael oden getting sniped by shemira and arden, daimon is dying earlier then thoran and brutus dying quick too
What is Silas min Bec he feels ass rn
show hero info
buddy, Si 20 go go
Si 20?
Its Game changer
Daimon scales with enemies since he steals their shit, its gipsy kingo
Maju I'ma show you this rq hold up
Ah okay thanks ill try getting some emblems then
no pls
How tf does my friend with si 18 and T1 gear so this fkn much dmg
Wait he got si 20 but still
Same stage I pull 10 mill with T2 and si 20 😭
Is it lvl 4 talismane
Explain
Also does Silas need 203 or 209 to be good
SIlas's goal is 309 and he becomes beast at that point but no, he is very good even without that
Is the 2* and lvl 4 tali that big of a diff (my talk only lvl 1 😅)
Mine insta dies and does no healing 😅
he gets extra stats from furnitures, even legendary tier
show your oden
His gear is very meh 😅 I'm working on it rn
so u have an answer
Daimon can be frontliner but he needs backline to do well
I don't understand lol I've got better gear than both 😭
Actually his Oden has better
do you compare same stages ? he could have easy time on that particular one since his lineup set is garbage af
Yea I compared same stage
Shit my Rowan was lvl 1 but whatever 😅
His Rowan still barley did anything it looks like just a lil heals
its not about his heals but the energy
It's just bait for silv
Fair
That's why I wanted to swap scroll my skreg for Rowan but it's not worth it lol
try with thoran brutus daimon ferael oden
not worth but sounds like one of your ideas tho 
ik it's not
Prob here is Oden gets 1 tapped by silv and I can't seal Lucius
That's why I was using Silas as bait lol 😭
he prolly tps one of frontline before getting killed
I'ma run this for an hour fuck it
no
yes
maybe
If it wins sure
then its good xd
Should have taken nara over factions still luckily you have awbrtus
the sooner you'll understand that there is no particular lineup that carries you thro the campaign the better for you
Lucy 5 pull caries from ch 1 to ch 31+
now I have question for you Dragon
how is your bullshit that you keep saying over and over supposed to help anyone ?
Afk helper for the win
Am I wrong tho 🤷 luc 5 pull go brr
No I'm not Lucky
do you have Luc 309 e60 ?
Or whale 
so why would you confuse anyone with that advice ?
bruh forget that, Luca is just flex sub that u gonna use from time to time. there is few "carry lineup" that u can work for but honestly it all depends of your RNG
I'm just saying that is a decent campaign team that will be one and done
^ RNG and try try try again 100+ tries min in each stage lol
I've been playing for 11 on this acc 🤷
Could be better but it is all luck dependent
Bro typing a paragraph
thats pretty decent, just stick to few keys and u gonna be gucci
- ascend heroe only if u have 4 copies of him at leat (2x Elite+)
- dont upgrade to legendary
- before u ascend hero, make sure he is usefull
you gonna be confused many times and feel overwhelmed, yet answers for any question u gonna have are included in #faq-resources just read it 😉 - making questions here should be your last act of desperate since people here will confuse you even more with stupid advices
Good advice
ima save it for the future.
Ive seen people with shemira 5*, does it mean I should go that way ?
Shem 5* go brr in shadow invasion 😭
yes and no,
yes because ascending to legendary doesn't change anything but only drains your fodders.
no because Eironn is decent hero and even can carry
Bro if I make it to ch 25 in a week a toddler can right maju besides Mr 5 tank man
Bro if you translate w/e u said above I can answer
w/e ? 
anyway, i came to help but if u scroll up that guy gets nothing outta this. again you spam the fuck outta this channel so im out
If I can make it to ch 24 anyone can basically 😅
Thanks for your help 😀
how does this team looks like?
just started and was wondering if its a solid comp or should i change something
#lineup-help message
keep reading down from that point.
If it wins then it's good. If it loses then it's not

you were really right about the "dont ask here unless its your last act" part i come here with a question and leave with 10...
you just made the same question as the guy above (if you shuffle the dragon spam) and there is same answer that I put below.
yet to not leave you with nothin I can give you my way that did lead me until ch31 (u use more teams past ch31)
My "spam" was asking questions 😭
Your team looks good if you winning 🙃
will yeah until im stuck everywhere
your cores tbh are 2 heroes - Daimon (carry) and Brutus (his immunity gives Daimon time to snowball) the rest 3 are supports which u gonna shuffle depending on situations. however Oden Silas Ferael are best ones
That's part of the game but if you need help it would help us if you showed all your heroes in your box
No a glimpse at fodder
@spring hamlet study that and u wont need to question about anything
#faq-resources has all the rest info u need
alright thanks for the help
i was lucky to pull talene day one she is hard carrying me but soon she will start falling of cause of the lack of copies
this is my 3rd day or 2nd not sure
Yea she will fall off bec she is the worst Aw hero
i also had talene at the beginning and she did well till like ch20, then i swapped to daimon as carry
Make sure to read guides Ldamion ain't a good start
dont say that i like her
Show Your box and use words it helps
Try getting dust to 140 awtalene
dust?
Purple essence
I would try and reset your Rowan to lvl 100 and lvl aw Brutus 140
So then peaks of time 😮💨
overall u don't want to lvl up 5 at once. you will progress more if u keep your 1 carry hero ahead.
so max out carry and lvl up the rest ONLY when they are required to lvl up your carry. (in short there is max of 20or40 lvl diff allowed)
Just RNG it your close
Allright autoclicker it js
I don't see much diff you could do 😮💨
ye it sucks
Do POT
in that stage I'd swap Thane for Silas to reduce healing
alr will do
yup he does
Afk
does he manage to spray the gooze before he dies ?
And guild hunt
yes barely
What's good counter for ezizh?
Ezizh
the sane thing keeps happening
Yup ezizh
can u lvl up Daimon more ?
also give him Si20, you'll see huge diff
im close to si20 and maybe if i do the last candy crush and survivor stages
I'd focus on that tbh, signature item, furnitures, tiers have 1 common thing. they do nothing until you hit certain points
- Si 0-10-20-30
-furnitures 3-9
-tiers E+ - Mythic - Ascended - A1*
None atm
Sorry! Forgot I was in the wrong channel again!
dont have furniture yet when do i get that
it was just example and well.. thing you gotta understand. dont waste resources if u can't hit the breakpoint; meaning dont upgrade to legendary, dont upgrade Si few lvls on many heroes, etc
Si example. Daimon is lovely carry because he scales with Enemies, as u see below each **breakpoint **gives additional skill which is the point of upgrading Si
i only upgraded si on daimon u think its at 16 or 17
so in short u have +10 and 6 or 7 useless lvls 😛
here is ok if u do that to progress the Si on 1 hero, problem shows when u do that on few heroes. like for ex. 4 heroes with Si 17, none of them got +20 so its wasted cuz at that cost 2 heroes could be +20
i got it i think i understand
Stop at si 20 as well he doesn't need 30
the funny thin in this game is that people focus on lineups (not saying that they aren't important but...) there are few examples of heroes that make you to think about it... Daimon,Thoran,Lucretia - heroes that are able to 1v5 the stage so what to do with them ? worrying about 5 heroes or think what to do to allow them snowball?
thats the lovely example of person who claims knowing the game but stages that people struggling with, my daimon did solo.. why ? cuz I invested in him
im beginning to understand the game
its just i dont think that im gonna beat that stage any tiume soon
Bro why you ss me am I wrong
thats my Daimon, did break ch35 with same schamatic, all what was needed was frontliner with bit of sustain to allow him snowball
saying the guy struggling on ch26 after changing the server cuz of his stupidity. dude for real, if you don't help at least don't spam
I was on a wrong server I ain't know ts was important lol but spreading that you should si 30 Damion is not good
you don't even bother to understand what you're reading before typing. where did I say it should be Si30?
Struggling on ch 26 Bec ive pushed here in less than 2 weeks and have no sustain on my team
Help can’t get past this stage : (
pick your carry mate. 1 strong carry is better than 3 weak carries
untill 120-160 lvl Mirael may be best carry u can have (wukong is also good untill 120)
overall try to stick with 2 tanks 1 carry and 2 supports
u gonna consider who's your best choice for carry depending of RNG u have
ooohhh i beat the stageee
Ok thx
well done 
i swapped around the heroes and equipment worked better then i thought it would
thats why i said that there is no 1 particular lineup. you gonna swap positions pretty often. just the gear is more stable since u want to focus on Daimon and for example Brutus can be all naked
brutus to 141 might be smth but im not really sure cuz his immune gets 3 secs added
well yeah, the longer his immunity the better for daimon but I wouldn't stress about it
estrilda keeps screwing me over this chapter is full of her
be water my friend 😄
study this
answer for estrilda in TIPS
estrilda pushes buruts away and attacks thoran
show me
I changed thane and oden now she doesn't do it anymore
yeh Oden starts with teleporting frontline so its handy, also Ferael has initial CC so I'd give some tries with Daimon Ferael Oden on backline also
if silas dies 2 fast, dont bother and just swap him for some CC dealer
fereal and oden die very fast
but im sure you'll succeed if give more investment into Daimon, Si 20 key
yeah cuz of Estrillda AoE
what artifact u have on Daimon and Oden?
yeah, give like 10 tries each. then swap positions between ferael and Oden
are u playing on phone or PC?
i can do both rn phone
well if I see that certain stage is doable and RNG based I run macro on Bluestack and just carry on to my home stuff or netflix ;p
does bluestacks have macro?
you can record your clicks and then run as macro
how
it was often when I struggled with 1 stage, i ran macro and then came back noticing that im 10 stages further xD
ill just run autoclicker on my phone and watch a movie on my pc
thats the other option yeah ;d
so i shouldt use thane right
rather this
I'm stuck at the next stage now
bruh... u got formula for the entire game... coming here every single stage makes no sense
i mean yes your right its just easier asking other ppl yk
ofc it helps with certain stage but 2 critical things comes from that.
- u dont learn the game and refuse to think at all
- you lose the fun of playing the game
your stage is included here... Isabelle deals 0 dmg so the dmg dealer is ferael and scythe, shuffle positions. brutus against scythe daimon #3

Need help for beating this stage, i know i made a mistake with lucius. Should i stop and work on the new tank?
Is asolise for athane a good idea? Since daimon took over as carry
Is this team good?
Replace raku with arden, astar or rowan. Other than that your team is good
Ok, i have these options too, i changed astar because i was struggling to pass a level with her
I heard rowan wasnt so good before ascended
He gets very good at mythic, but he's still decent at E+
Post your entire box for advice

