#lineup-help
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Boosted is not new ๐
Fantastic. Also, take anything I say with a grain of salt. I'm not an expert at this game. I only pushed through chapter 25 before ultimately opting to restart. Best of luck though and I hope I helped in some way
yeah np, me neither lmao
i just relay information iโve seen from other people who are better than me
I know there have been several complaints floating around about newer players answering questions with incorrect or misleading information, so I want to be transparent
Bingo lol
Yea I had a new player tell me to make an L early ๐
i assume i just powerlevel talene with daimon 2nd prio, yes?
Yea
What chapter is your main? If your below mid 30s I would consider you newer ๐
She will fall of ch 11 or 12 then focus Damion iirc
I have a acc in 30 28 18 15 12 and 11
ill probably still keep her since awakened skill + has revive so ok tank maybe, but yeah ill keep that in mind
Technically you can take high prio heroes to L. Taking a hero to L isn't necessarily a sin. It's when you spread fodder among multiple heroes when it becomes an issue. Taking daimon to L without first being able to also take him to L+ is fine as long as you don't do it with your other heroes, bc Daimon is extremely high prio.
That's at least what I've been told ...
Yea keep her in but I would prio Damion after ch 11 if you still get copies of him
daimon and rowan are the main exceptions iirc, as they get the biggest spikes from mythic (aside from raku)
That's what I heard as well. I am but a sheep bahhh
going to l without l+ is still a heinous crime though, just because its not bad doesnt mean its not good
You can but you will fuck your self early I would only take high prio to L if I have copies to L+ but yea Damion and Rowan only
Preach it to the choir
that was a acc I made when this game first came out lol and had came back and restarted since meta changed bec my 5* shemira 5* tasi and 5* bilenda where all shit when I came back
Yea I only L+ my fodder ๐
Well untill I get M and food etc
Real chads sit their fodders at L in their box if they cant get copies for L+ ๐ฟ๐ฟ
also because its becomes a precedent, like โoh i did daimon so oden should be fine tooโ then later you have 5 L and ur stuck at lv140
If I got lucky on this acc I would do 4 L+fodder and L+ Damion but I have not pulled him on 1052
dragon this is a bit off topic but i need friends
I got you what your id
150886951
This acc name is FF16 it was a filler lol did not think I would pull aw lol
Bet added
ty
Np
awakened talene, yes
Bro stalking me ๐คฃ
Did you pull athane as well?
I pulled a.thane
With what?
Sure, making scarlet M early wasnt optimal, L+ grez too early and L+ shem...just no
Focus fodders =earlygame
Make sure your wishlist is set up correctly
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Oh yeah, just keep summoning! You miss a lot of copies for anybody to go further..
I need help with this ;-;
Are you just coming back to the game?
What do I do I have alot of dps but no tanks
236 days gone
Bec you have a 2018 comp lol
Lmao I was playing mythic heros ๐ญ
I'ma be 100 with you I would restart
The meta has changed and your server is so old
It's old as shit it's one of the first ones
But you can get your progress back in like 1 month tops
I had done the same thing lol I've started over a few times lamo
Thoughts on this acc
What server is this ?
It's one of my alts
Yea not good Bev alot of rewards come from pvp and you will struggle your ass of in pvp
That's all my current alts I made the "not using diamonds" one like yesterday
Server 1052 just came out I would recommend starting over and I can walk you through and show you some guides
Who's new meta BTW
50 ascended hero cards??
Aw TOT cards
Damion if you can get him and get copies he will hard carry early
I feel like daimons always been good
Here is a lil pic of how to set up wish list how to not get lvl capped and how to summon
Since when was Mischka good๐lmao it thought she was ass
She is better later and decent early
Also here are active codes
I would pay attention very closely to the before lvl 160 part on that pic that is where new players fail
What app is this
Also shemira is ass now she does not hard carry
No not shem
Afk redeem on Android ๐
๐ญShes my fav ๐
Yea I had her 5*
Did they nerf her or sum coz that's wild
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
She carried me from the start of the game
Yea Damion is new shem
OK thx imma go start
Gl of you need me just @ me and I will help set up formation and what to go for I'm normally available
Just don't make to many characters to L early game they give you a advantage but will set you back later to lack of food for prio heores
Omfg you aw solice
This my start up after 70 pulls
Your set lol
Team comp?
1grez
2thoran
3wukong
4aw solice
5Errion
Also power lvl your aw solice and grab free wukong from event tab
Make your awsolice first to 80 the. Get everyone to 60 the. Get her too 100
I'm so fkn jealous ๐
Ping me when you get stuck ๐
And I was saying my luck better be good
That is a 0.1 drop for an aw hero and you pull 2nd best one
Who's the 1st
A Belinda Abel for short she ignores defence and is just a monster early game and late
Lmk if you have questions if you pull new heores also make sure you set up your wish list
For GB I would take out thoran and add Silas untill you get 1-2 copies then add thoran back
Is this one any good for a beginner
Not rly
Try
1.damion
2.brutus
3a.solice
4.rowan
5.abel
@unborn meteor
If aw solice died before ult try Silas
Stuck on this stage, tried a few different loadouts with Nara, Silas, Oden, its rough
Im waiting for more daimon copies to ascend him
I have no idea what to do against Tasi usually
Also tried a couple different artefact setups
I only have nara at E, so ideally need another copy of her to have her live a couple seconds longer
Nara at E is fine but Raine is a questionable M
It will probably be RNG bec of tasi
Swap your pet to black ball and upgrade him as much as possible and run
1damion
2brutus
3abel
4rowan
5nara
Put nara in your crystal
Ok thanks
I only brought raine to M as i had a lot of her from ramdom pulls and purple cards
Fair but she shouldn't be on your WL
Sheโs not and never has been, i just got (un)lucky
Damn big rip then
Returning player after Ice Shemira patch (Chapter 32-14)
hi annyone can help me which character should i focus first this is my inventory
Lmao Bro without her I'd be lost. Fr
Any help with lineup? Stuck at 10-16
Should I use ezizh
My formation rn is baden, diamon, Wu kong, rowan, shemira
Im stuck here. Can anyone help me make a team?
Trying to push lb tower with the ones currently leveled but it seems lackluster. What would be a decent comp that can hold its own. Too little experience with lbs sadly
I'll be thankful for any suggestions! 1st team is lucretia 5p. my thoran is only E and there is no dim comp
the best possible result looks like this. daimon can bring everyone to 10% hp, but then he's killed by brutus
Hey guys im stuck at this stage, anyone suggestions?
Any suggestions?
stuck
Guys help
Try using Lyca instead of Brutus for the extra boost of haste. Just switch the places of them. You might try and switch Lyca and Thoran if that doesnโt work 4 times.
move edwin to solise positon
Aw solice in the back and Edwin up front
eironn to daimon positon maybe
And Silas over eirroin imo
I need purple dust to get my heros up
1 grez/Edwin
2edwin/grez
Damion behind where ever you put Edwin
And Silas and awsolice where there is room should work
silas in the middle
๐ญI'm first in arena lmao
Did already
All of them?
Nah can't complete the one
this didn't work i tried like 5 times
swapping lyca and thoran didn't work either
OH WAIT IT WORKED TYSM
If you only try 5 times then you don't know if it worked run like 10-20, also gj beating it
Also if you have Brutus replace thoran with him lives longer
Is zikis good
Idk but most cell/hypo are not good without investment
zikis is kind of a meme
Can someone help me pick a winning team for Brutal Citadel 447, please? I've tried the recommended formations and a load on AFK helper but just cannot do it.
Help with 25-60 please
One of. My alts have just passed that if you want to add it and try a formation?
Let me get the id
I can try a formation? I just can't use any mercs for this stage
That's fine
ty
150225272 add this and got to available in formations tab you should be good
ty! i just spplied the fq
What's your in game name bec I have like 7 request I haven't accepted
sorenei
Alr I accepted I'd there isn't a available show me what I used and I'll help you with a sub unit
i tried the formation and i died :') ill try the battle a couple more times tho
Warning a ran some of those 100-1000 times 
oh wow thats alot...
Yea it gets high RNG on some of those stages
That stage was 587
It could also be I had si 30 Rowan and fera with 3 furn
What do I do
in the battle ur rowan had si 24 and idk who fera is
Ferrael
The one on the bottom back I'm using
Oh he was only 24 you should be good ๐
Danke
My Damion had 1 piece of T1 lol I never got strength stones
yeah.. idk how i keep losing
And your Damion higher lvl
i still get steamrolled
Keep trying 10.times then show me dmg report
alr
my daimons doing less dmg than urs but hes healing alot more how do i get him to do more dmg?
Stuck on this stage, can anyone help?
Swap tanks and put Rowan back mid
Swap Damion and nara
Did this over 10 teams, didnt work
still wont win ill just wait till i can lvl
also who would you say is nbetter ferael or oden
Both have differences maybe get rid of palmer for oden and just out dps it
Rowan not palmer
dont have him on my third
im asking for my second
oh nvm i have to use grezhul
Sorry I meant to reply to his box I got confused ๐
ah no worries
my second acc is so fd i only have daimon mishka and grezhul as tanks daimon isnt even a tank
Oh, sorry. I just saw the top of Rowan's head. Use Rowan instead of Silas. Silas is great and I use him all the time, but Rowan is a lot better. You can also try Rowan where Lyca is if that doesn't seem to work either.
yeah the suggestion you gave first already worked, i just didn't try it enough times, ty
Been stuck here any recommendations this comp is what I've got the closets with
Need 4 teams for campaign but am not sure how to structure them, need help pls
=endgamecomps
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Those are general cores to build around
You're missing some crucial investments on a lot of core heroes. You can try to run it with 1. Thoran Cheese 2. Lucy 3. GBs 4. Scarlet Dims until you get those investments
What line up is best? Iโve been running:
Damon Thoran Brutus, with oden ferael awezizh awtalene as flex. Grezhul and awbaden seem useless currently. Is there some great comp choice im totally missing?
Best Tower team?
Lyca also good flex. If u have Eironn, Eironn in slot 4 is decent combo early game with Thoran even if he only pulls 3, since Eironn pulls enemies on top of Thoran's corpse so he fears all when he revives
What do izold builds run?
really stuck here any advice?
He is your new carry for a few chapters he is aw thane (or awakend thane
Any recommendations been stuck here and tried a lot
Been stuck at this stage for some time? Anyone suggestions
im stuck on this for a while
Brutus in the back
oh i did smth random cause nothing was working zzzz
Who should I be taking and focusing in abex? ๐
Nvm finally beat it
Can someone please give me a hand with this stage?
I'm on 10-21 rn what should my main ream b
I got the 3 artificats so who should I put those on too
This my team currently not sure if I should keep using it
iโd swap a.solise and daimon position also why do u have 2 uninvested mercenaries wtf
This is my current line up, and I was wondering if there is any characters that wouldnโt work well or could be improved upon. I want to run Daimon but I can defz switch him up
Been stuck on this stage for a week, any tips?
One dude just had them
well then dont get uninvested mercenaries lmao
Lmao they the only ones there
join a guild, you can use their mercenaries
Yea I did
How can I win this battle, evrryone just gets one shot
Eironn in the middle with Brutus and another tank up front usually works for stages like that
grez edwin a.solise silas daimon maybe
I use that but grez and Silas just dies
try edwin grez daimon a.solise silas maybe
He doest do enough
Already cleared this thanks
Need some assistance here they're just shredding through my backline and tassi isn't helping anything by banishing my carry I'm not sure what to do I checked afk helper almost every team there has a ascended Rowan.
Tasi athelia stages are so bs dude
You don't got Rowan either do you
Facts I had to use a Merc 2 stages before this it was tassi athelia and coffin dude
their rowan is e+
Yea
I'm like 1 copy off m Rowan smh
His si 30 will help a lot I believe in you I think I Merced this stage iirc
Hm okay
only 1 or 2 resets until merc use is back anyway
Who should I use on my team?
why are there 2 legend daimons
I accidentally fused one to legend
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That's a big set back u can't un do that it also looks like your a retuning players
Yes
Can anyone recommend a good PvP team for arena?
What server are you on
How do I check?
probably 1049 at ch29 as shown in their name
I don't see that in there name ๐
top left profile then settings then select server
wrong person ๐
thought u meant for kat lamo
S860
I sniped his response ๐
Restart
you should restart, also check =earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Your server is to old you won't be able to pvp and your box is rly. Rough
Yea lol you put your box as I typed it 
How do I restart?
Go to a new server like 1052
in the select server menu click on the recommended server
then it asks u if u want to swap servers and u just click yes
The newest one ๐ also follow
=Earlygame
And check pins in #classic-questions
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
For beginners guide and wishlist
I'ma fight you
It would not let me edit it 
Maju could you help me with your massive brain 
Fr master maju is so smart
Help me @steady scroll 
when I watch you lads I think that "SOS Arena" would be better name for that game 
Probably

I assume ferael disappears immediately, thats why I used to put Lyca against Athalia which at least been giving me haste
Hey my tiny brain can't make up team comps off that well I know just enough to get by
Yeah but the only problem if he's gone then tassi kinda just banishes so idk.
Heey wdym he's maxed out ATM with what I'm besides engraving
He doesn't need si 30 or engraving this early
I've been told not to engrave or si30 sooo
MAXED OUT ?! my daimon was 303 e30 long time before lvl 240 
Well gear wise anyways he's stacked to the brim 
I've been told not to engrave or si30 him by a bunch of people Soo
Should I hero choice chest to L+ Damion?
Idk I'ma try ferael with haste buff and see how that goes...
Take his weapon off he fears faster ๐
If not I'ma grab a Lucretia Merc later
That's odd but alright
well, i was about to say that I put Lucretia against athalia. she always dodge this
It's a haste bug idk why it works but it does lol
reported for bug using ๐งโ๐ป
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Dang ferael just dies before he fears...
Damn what's his gear?
Pretty sure it's estrilida he dies to like some type of holy swords or something idk
Really not any good just random mythic s I have slapped on him and no weapon
I'm focused on raku for gear atm
Maybe put your raku gear on him for now 
So he can dodge better
Estrilda just summons likr swords and it slams into the ground that's what keeps killing all my units in the middle
Ok now he barely lives but he fears but I still get banished sad
just explain to me what are you trying to achieve ?
Fear tassi in hopes daimon lives long enough to get off 2 Ultimates and kill everyone but it doesn't seem like it's gonna work
any clue how to clear this stage? i get one shotted xD.. too much burst right from teh start
whats the best way to deal with hit kill's enemies? theres nothing more boresome than that stupid saveas koing me in every chapter lol
although there is no 1 godlike lineup that will carry you on the campaign you can make an use of my way that I been playing till ch31
based on heroes that u did show on screen I see no lineup that can deal with this stage.
perfect the answer i was hoping for 
its based on heroes with immunity or/and revival?
no no, i want u to use brain now. so tell me, what is your point in current actions that u made previously.
Same thing but he just wasn't living 
if you expect serious answers, bring serious question with the data that others can use.
you still refuse to think 
You know what I'm gonna try daimon Frontline for once in awhile Im curious to see what happens
Can someone help me make 5 teams for campaign
wdym its all seen in the screenshot and the campagne stage is also displayed tehre so idk what u on about
i also said i get right away one shotted. I had no problem with ur answer but u seem to hv an problem with the way i asked even thoi there is no problem .
Send a screenshot of your entire hero page so people can throw a team together for you
@cobalt sky for XXX time... when u hit the wall u gotta think....
- what causes you to lose?
- 1 dmg dealer? then how to counter him ?
- being CC'ed? then how to prevent it ?
if you do everything what's in your range, maybe its time to let your heroes scale, let them lvl up, get better gear and come back tomorrow
Yeah I got it now Frontline daimon for some reason works out with oden so I'll get it with some rng
Yeah true that I never really play battles on 1x speed when I do I figure out manly what's wrong I gotta start doing that more
lets get into common ground, I'm tank and you're healer. we goin into RDF and u keep dying cuz going in front and keep on blaming me.
now lets head back to your SS, what I can see ? your request for help and lineup that will deal with the stage.
what do I need ? your heroe's pull, meanwhile you shown 2,5 bar of your box xd
well i play with macro on x4 speed mostly and going AFK meanwhile cuz thats not interesting, when I see fails I start to play since it's essential for me. thats the moment I really feel like playing this game figuring out how to solve the puzzles. thats why I don't understand many people here coming for help every few if not every single stage ;p
ainz team, gb team, scarlet team, lucretia team, thoran cheese
Lmao yeah that's fair
in case of "wtf this dumfuck is talking about?" i beg you pardon for expecting from woman to understand man's logic so lemme clarify my words 
I'll gladly help you but you need to show me your box (all heroes you got)
you can try putting brutus in front of athalia if she is main dmg dealer
Yeah it's working out decently well almost just beat i just need oden to live and ult which he almost just did so
try rowan, daimon, ferael, oden, brutus.
putting daimon against estrillda is kinda risky and needs more retries probably. thats why rowan comes to my head in order to boost his energy and allow to early ultimate
graveborns.
just so you know, my answer to that question was sarcastic. you asked about lineups, from 5 lineups I gave, you will choose 1 fits you the most. no matter whats your choice you will have to modify it pretty often since shuffling positions is the key in order to victory
not the lineup is important but your knowledge how to deal with certain heroes mechanics
cleared it with this lineup
4 tanks new meta 
B)
no one shot ez xD
if I told u to use that lineup, what would be your answer ? 
This is working really well I just swapped daimon and rowans position since estrilida was just not letting him do anything
"i dont have brutus" or any other hero mentioned. thats why u need to provide hero box, so people u asking for help can see what you have and build your lineup based on that
well if u invest more in daimon and obtain talismane, you'll see daimon spitting on estrillda ;d
I'm using talismane ATM
he's a must-have lmao
yup
i mean, against mages I swap to black ball but overall yeah - talismane is da wae
Yeah I'm gonna get this stage gonna take a bunch of tries but nothing I'm not used to
is Scarlet good and walker?
scarlet is chad for bosses and other modes like events/CR/TR/Rift/events/etc. also used in campaign but rather on multis. Walker is straight up fodder
Any hero I could change out Swolise with?= I only have swolise mythic
daimon probably. also put Oden on #4 and Daimon/other one u choose on #5 (#3 gets taunted by ezizh)
I just recently started and this lineup is working for me but I was wondering if there were any suggestions on who I should be trying to get or who to swap out?
Power lvl you aw Brutus he will carry you for awhile
Do I concern myself with leveling any of the other characters?
Did you make sure your wishlist is set up correctly
Probably not
check #classic-questions pins
Will do, thanks!
But do that set it up properly and make that Brutus your carry don't invest anything into shemira she is not good
You can lvl her for now but deff want to replace her and twins
But just lvl your Brutus to 100 asap then lvl your team to 80 then Brutus to 120
twins is ok for now but yeah, definitely want to phase her out when u get better options
Twins will fall of ch 8-9
Should be good but try to replace with Rowan or Rosa or another supp
Yeah, they aren't lasting very long in any battle at this point and I just started ch 7
I would reset your team to 60 and lvl Brutus to 100 leave them at 60 till he hits 100 then lvl them evenly to 80
Also read =earlygame it will help alot for newer plates do's and dont's
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Only bec dust will be a problem if you can't push chapters to do POT(peaks of time)
Boosted can cover what I missed if he still here I'm going out ping me later if you need help ๐
Thanks so much!
No problem
what happened to ur ss draogn?
Hello, can someone please help me with 15-32
move thoran to athane spot
Worked a little better. But still no luck
RNG brother some runs take 100s or more or less tries
Tried a couple more times and it worked. Thanks
You anyone got any suggestions for this tries a few comps but no luck
U got 2 awake hero
Good start bro
Yea I got another one last night 
1052 treating me right lol
@somber dock how old your account is?
2 days ๐
1052 is like a few days
Didn't u where on 1051
he rerolled
Na I swapped when I got a. Thane in ch 3
But I'm stuck I'm just running an auto clicker
Nothing it's all a fresh start
Everything will disappear?
It stay in your old server but you can transfer anything
Hmmmm
you can make 2 L+btw Arden and mirael @haughty ridge
I will consider that if it becomes hard to advance
Just waiting for a hero to take him to mythic directly
It won't set you back at all you want to do that to break lvl cap
You want 5L+ fodder or 4 and Damion you can make 2 so you will need just 2 more and your close
i have to see a YouTube video so I can understand more
Of what? I can explain
I'm not doing anything I don't mind that why I am here
Ok
So will my vip and advantages I get in higher chapter go? And resources I have?
cant*
its effectively an entirely new account, just that its connected to the same user account as your other server
Yea can't I did not even catch that lol ๐คฃ
My bad lol
No thanks (lol why I will make my progress go )
you can still play on both accounts, just need to swap between them
So I won't lose my progress, it's like clones ( duplicated)
But your acc is fine no reason to restart it
I have another account
yeah, its a new account but just tied to the same lilith account as your other account
It's not loosing it permanently you can swap between them as much as you want
Why do you have 2 of the same app open ๐คฃ
its similar to that, except you dont need a 2nd instance of the app
Me after duplicating the app and opened new account ๐คฆ
How dumb am i
Lol man's doing it the hards way (your fine lol)
So just click on your pfp then settings the server and you can have 1052 accs if you really wanted
Next time
it is
I re rolled alot in the past
very boring
Yea it is lol ๐คฃ
you go from 6x game speed and 4x battle speed to 1x (2x after ch2) game speed and 2x battle speed
Especially if you have boosted luck
it feels like youโre playing in slow motion
Yea I miss 4and 6x lol so slow
But I fucked up alot on my "main account" lol
Wrong server good box
And my one before that was wrong server shit box to many L's etc
Before that I had 5*shemira and tasi lol
They use to be carries when the game came out not no more tho
Guys help
1 Brutus
2 thoran
3Silas
4rowan
5abel
Maybe
Let me try
i would consider daimon over abel but that could work
although i think swap silas and abel/daimon, since i think isabella energy drain would go to them and itโd fuck u up
You could also do this
Bruts
Thoran/lyca
Rowan
Damion
Nara
Nice, I did it
Thanks guys
Boosted is big brain
Also maju but he will help you in his way of calling you stupid , but you learn 
Hahaha okk ๐
Stuck at 12-9 what should i do
Nara issabelle
Nvm i won
Guys, how to anti the heals
Help, dragon
1 thoran
2mishka
Astat
Palmer
Scarlet mby
With what?
This, I stuck for like 5 times :-;
Didn't work
First thing Damion no go front
I tried that
brustus
2thoran
Abel/Damion
Rowan
Nara
Keep trying it , it won't work first try
@unborn meteor
Iโm trying now
Changing speed won't work
But yea idk just keep trying I just had a stage with 367 tries
U probably have to try many times tbhโฆ itโs rng
Your carry is above their lvl so you should be fine
I'm pushing while my team is 132 and they are 168
Im using daimon, thoran, ferael, rowan and silas (19-4). Are there any changes i can make to that team or heroes i should push?
If your not stuck that should work with maybe lyca as flex
@azure bluff
Lmao dragon nice, add me, bc I am getting switching to discord and then having to reload afk๐but add me and send me a dm
Any tipperinos
Show rest of box and stats after loss thing
Help
@oak bone @fringe stone @summer bane if you want to receive any help then at least follow the rules >_>
Technically it says or

But yea it's way easier if you show the box and stage
freedom of speech doesn't exist it seems 
What did you say lamo ive got a few words removed 

xD
I need help my team just dies to fast
Didn't know ๐คฆ๐พ
@somber dock @unborn meteor 
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Help me rq while u here

With what
Line up
Show your full box?
Eironn should be No. 5
Swap eiron with astar
U now a nerd
And maybe Silas over astar
You been a nerd 
Idk ch 11 is not fun lol also did you already use your Merc today was reset 
Stuck here, should i use ainz?
who is silv jumping?
First oden, then palmer
Try
1 grez/Edwin
2edwin/grez
3awsolice
4mirael
4silas/astar
beginning of merc week so you rather don't wanna use any attempts
u could try switching eironn for silas and if that wont do. U gotta wait till u lvl ur heroes
@fringe stone also try more than 1 try lol some stages take 100s
Switch oden and Daimon try
It's hard them blue orbs got me wrapped
Thanks i won
np
nvm
Took all your time and he won 
I dont have brutus sadly
how come, next time show box if u ask for help 
Please do this
Could someone please help me make a team for Abyssal Expedition? Im not sure which relic to focus on for my units
There is no definite lineup for early game. As to ur second question, u read this =earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Hello! Relatively new Player here just wanting a bit of advice as I'm finding it hard to get through chapter 10 at the moment ๐
- Does anyone have any advice on hero placement/ heroes I should be using?
- Who would be a best replacement for Edwin, he's only a trial at the moment so I'll be needing another frontliner.
I've attached all the heroes I have and my current team set up. Just so you can see what I'm working with ๐
Ty
out of this heroes the only worth ascending rn is Silas, so its 1/4. you gotta stop spam ascending on worthless heroes.
#faq-resources resources contains shit ton of data you need to understand and basically everything you need to know
first of all read it - #1041161459935223828 message
How could I line up for thisโฆ I tried many times
Thanks
hi, this is my current line up. Should I switch mirael 17k power for daimon 10k power? Should I also switch Brutus 11k power for thoran 9k power?
replace rosaline with a.thane and mirael with a.belinda
reset 2 of ur highest level units and power level them
many thanks!
Stuck here, does anyone have a formation for this
Need help here been at it for half an hour no luck lmk if you have any ideas ๐ซ
https://imgur.com/a/X8Pobqb
I'm on level 32-4 and I can usually handle single battles without much issue usually with Daimon, Lyca, Rowan, Oden and Brutus/A Brutus but when it comes to multi-fight stages I have no idea what to do because I don't really have a second team that works well. Any suggestions on what to work on and where to go? I am working on LDV and JoA but it'll be a while before I have them. I just don't know who to focus on first or even what to focus on (signatures, engraving, etc).
1st stage will be your GB lineup, 2nd set up around scarlet. Normally your 2nd would be Lucretia team but u missing her
help me master maju
bruh... 18 lvls....
My Damion get 2 tapped ....
if you scroll up... there is this
what do you think... what will be my lineup for you ? xD
Fair but he doesn't get fear off even with no wep
it's similar to cycle team... there is rowan-twins-ezizh + 2 w/e here u have Daimon-Oden-Brutus +2we
add silas + skreg and u gucci lol
Brutus
Skreg
Damion
Oden/Silas
Silas/Oden
?
exactly. set daimon with brutus against higher dmg - see between shemira and isabelle
No nara for issa Bev she kina fucks my team 
Some times I feel like you give me worse comps than what I was using lol everything just died instantly
No kills just dead
What am I doing wrong lamo ๐ซ
good, now you solve puzzles better than randoms from discord who can't see results. your heading in good direction, keep it up!
Lamo bro sent me into a rabbit whole
I wasted 200 diamonds to RC๐
i feel like talking to u is waste of time, already told you how many things causing you to either win or lose. your daimon is just 18 lvls behind so basically should deal with it with just brutus in front of him but he doesn't so either his gear or IDK what else is downm
Your apprentice must love you xd
But I get bursted down 18 lvls or not lol
show the hero info
he got the screenshot and it was all what needed, but he reads it and understands
I was missing 2 heores lol I never got a ss
Right Silas mid tbf never used him ๐
Still doesn't help my team getting 1 shot 
so improve your heroes, it will help you way more than the spam here
help?
lv deficit is insane but i can usually get up to lucius and safiya just 1 shots me zzzz
he doesnt have 3f skiratht ho
Its almost like you don't look at boxes ๐
yea they all lv1 and my resonating crystal is all full so 400 diamonds to clear wtf....
oh its your whole box yikes
Lol
we love a 318 level deficit

theyโre supposed to die but if theyโre level 1 they cant even do the thing theyโre supposed to do
holy damn, nice you have Lucy 309 but you basically have no heroes at all xD
that actuall one is supposed to PULL and die :v
@olive zinc did u try using 4 same factions for bonus ?
for hypogeans? or any
Throw in hypos 5 of them total
maybe rowan brutus scarlet palmer lucretia? replace mishka from reso crystal for palmer
no no, something like that. Hypo is more offensive but with such deficit u want more sustain so HP+ atk bonus gonna be better chice
no diamonds rn to reset LOL
just brutus + 3 random maulers bruh
just wait the 24 hours then
3 others are just a feed so can be lvl 1
brutus wont carry heโd live for 5 seconds and die
jesus christ
everyone just gets 1 shot
give few tries on each, Luc #3/Luc #4/Luc #5
It's for faction bonus for luc
for some reason lucretia usually goes on brutus and because of his immunity she can't leech the HP so u may end up needing white puff. sometimes when she bursts down brutus she gets HP from surrounding enemies so its gucci
the formation shown when i said that didnt have luc lmao
Oh
yea nothing works
obviously formation with 3x lvl 1 charrs is set up for lucretia but indeed i didnt put lucretia there since i quickly change one of my lineups in campaign :v
how many tries ? 
like at least 20
to fix that u just whale more and buff lucy more
no
just joking lmao
u dont need more investment in lucy u need more investment in other characters lmao
Or build Lucy pull
your problem is that you ignored her backup, if you going all in for Lucy u gotta care about her team (at least 2) 3f Skriath and Eironn are essential.
you cant use her well if u dont have the pieces, having her 309e60 is good but its still not gonna work if u have the other units that go with her
eironn works at e+ probably but skirath needs 3f to work for 5 pull
2 more copy of skirath is needed and 1 more copy of eironn
as above been said, Eiron works on elite but Skriath needs 3f or its useless. Eiron in back mid pulls triangle (enemy frontline + mid back) Skriath's 3f causes enemy's #3 and #5 to be moved in middle so eventually Eironn pulls whole 5 team to him and lucretia burst them at once
yeah, once eironn pulls 5 then everyone except lucretia dies then she ults a few times and attacks a few times and everything dies
ah
Luc 5 pull
you could try that ( as far as I remember) Mehira been an issue in that stages so if u make her nap time u may have time to kill few before her burst
Any idea? The Shemira heal is annoying af. And the assassin too :-;
he doesnt have a.ezizh but nara could replace
i do have aezizh
i know, thats why I suggest him
oh im blind mb
rowan -> silas
Lyca -> Oden
ok cheers
silas reduces healing of enemies so u can use on healing matchups
is that not with his si? not with him only l+
e60 reduces dmg taken from enemies when standing in his cloud
why mention e60 when his is l+? i dont see how that matters
are you trying to joke or having problems with understanding? the e60 part was answer to you that engraving is just dmg taken reduce, healing reduction is within his skill kit
silas is great overall
you stated engraving when i stated si, which is why i got confused there
i get stuck on brutus
yeah as it usually goes within lineups against him. u gotta shuffle Luc positions
sadly you have short space to manipulate it since your box is kinda poor
Thank you for the advice. I'll work on getting Scarlet and her support up as well as Lucretia. Lucretia has been a long term goal of mine but it's obviously a slow process.
i need help on lost in reverie stage 9
followed all reddit guides and now i only got 50 tries left
still stuck on stage 9
I got it with this
Lineup for 22-60
Who should I be using rn?
What are the best teams now for the 2 guild bosses? Without awakaned hereoes
silv instead of izold
Help
Hello! Help me choose a team please.
How far can I go with this team?
(:
early game is really about going with what you got. A good rule of thumb is 2 tanks > 2 supp > 1 carry. Or 1 tank > 3 supp > 1 carry.
What is this question, you're planning to stick to this team forever? 
I'm stuck in 5-20 should I reset someone or wait for resources?
keep your carry 40 lvls ahead if possible
and up to lvl 100 monkey can solocarry
who should i focus to upgrade now
RESTARTTTT RESTARTT
IT WORKS
U better restart in a new server
nah bro ๐ญ
played too much already ain't restarting
That account aint worth it
man who should i main then
Engraved thoran
BRO NOT MY FAULT I DROP THORAN EVERY TIME
U have lots of mistakes.
- Thoran Engraved
- Too many L+
- Ascended non prio heroes
- ur si30 not like first prio also
- I think U left game and recently came back
๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
L+ bc ion have space for heroes ๐ญ
who should i main then
ENGRAVED THORAN SUPREMACY
thoran best frfr ๐ญ
Y'all weird ,
But you want him to be weaker for thoran ๐ง
huh
I swear ur account will just be a a boring hollow. Restarting will be more enjoyable
the weaker thoran is, the better. since he takes more dmg
^^
nobody never told me shit bruh
Ask questions 
Ask questions and read guide bro. it's the purpose of this server
bro i did and nobody never said nun bout thoran
bro me too I thought e30 is huge cuz he gets damage buff but it just makes him tankier so he returns less dmg
is at least grezhul good?
nope, not 9f
Yea he good at 309
209
U aint got any good hero aside from silas, daimon. Grezh is a fortress once 9f but ur grezh still meh
209 my bad
9f?
I swear u gonna be stuck for very very long and it will get boring since u made many mistakes. Ascending 1 hero might take u many months
oh alr
but less than playing from start again
Na im ch 16 almost 17 in 3 days
Not really, starting again is better
We don't talk about my luck ๐
Some active players here restarted even if they are like ch 30+
For example u r chapter 30rn, Dragon can get past u after a month or a month and half and you will still be stucked there
im chapter 39 and i restarted
@pale kettle I wish you the best of luck I was just in your boat
Yup best of luck @pale kettle If u wanna do that acc, try getting 9fgrezh, rowan si30, luc si30
^^
is mishka and gerzhul si30 super important or can it be skippable for anasta and nevi si30?
what is si30 ๐ญ
both only si20. 9f is what's important
aite yea ill just si30 anasta and nevi
signature item level 30
Is there already someone I should plan to invest in long term or not so much? I just started yesterday
Currently stuck at ch11
Anyone know who i should use?
I am 1 off for rowan to mythic and one off for oden to mythic
And 1 off for mishka to mythic
I switched silas with ferael since i have him elite
Is there a way to defeat this PvP team that does not involve me having an aBrutus?
You were super lucky with thane +u're really good bro, newbies won't get such crazy score 
Looking at getting astar leg/leg+(soon), y/n and any tips to who else I should be focusing on?
Don't make astar L/L+
Need help beating
Oden for thoran and pray he ults isabella so she cant ult
Maybe swap edwin daimon too, vedan does decent dmg early on
Daimon is the only one lasting long enough to do anything
On my heroes that are 100 should I take them to 101 for the skill
Daimon will 1v5 a lot lol. Do what Steve said, put oden at 3 behind daimon pray he nukes Isabella energy
Oden legit just dies straight away
They instant kill Rowan and Oden almost always
Which one is Edwin, might replace thoran with Edwin
Almost worked
edwin is there already, heโs in first position in ur screenshot
But they still kill Oden, I recon imma get Oden to 101 and see if he can't survive long enough
Why is Oden dying instantly
try it with 1x battle speed and check for yourself, we dont know since we arent playing ur game
Fair enough, my bad
It's the lil guys in the back, they are both doing heavy DMG to both my bottom and top back units
I can't beat this lvl yet, it's impossible
I have a screenshot of the gear here
you're still in early game and here key is your patience and good setting of wishlist and your course. Spend that time on understanding your lineup, the role of certain classes. For example of your screenshot. you have 3 tanks basically (thoran, edwin and Daimon) if u want to go with this 3 its ok however putting thoran in back makes no sense at all. However if u put Daimon in the backline he will become a sniper like. Daimon is base tank classified but he is one of the best carries in the game.
I see you consider your moves and thanks to what you don't have army of yellows there xd.
Since you have Daimon on Legendary you can follow the path of having 1 carry in team ( mirael becomes useless at that point) My advice is to go with 2 tanks 1 carry (daimon) and 2 supports/cc. I'll add my way that did lead me to ch31 pretty quick and easily
My problem is figuring out who to use as my other main tank
Wait so 3 tanks and 2 supports them bc Damion is tech tank
OH so put Damion is back okay
So thoran and Edwin up front but I won't have Edwin for much longer
tips.. what I noticed is that best to keep Daimon(and any carry u have) on the same side as Ezizh
therefore I'd run it that way
study the picture I sent above, you have everything explained there ๐
But see I don't have those units
These are basically who I have
I don't even have Brutus
@stiff flicker my apologizes, error accured im the lineup i sent. Swap positions between Thoran and Daimon xd
Tried this a bunch, no luck because of tasi
I don't remember the exact chapter but u get 1 copy for finishing one. besides as I mentioned, you're pretty fresh so give yourself time. The most interesting thing in this game is figuring out how to beat the stages and what is working best. What I gave u can be used as the helper of what to focus on, for the current time u can just use other heroes ๐
I hoped that Rowan will give more time for daimon to make more damage by putting him in front coz he survives this stage pretty well
did u try using Oden instead of rowan ?
might also try to swap thoran or brutus for grez for passive
That was pretty close, thanks will try this one ๐ I tried bunch of comps and dont remember what exactly ive tried ๐
2 ideas I have cuz I don't know your gear etc. swapping positions between ferael and oden. if doesn't work; use silas instead of ferael
thats how I beat 30-41
Wow, you have lots of stars ๐
at that point I had my thoran replaced by Grezhul
Will try, thanks ๐
My grez is still 4/9 ๐ฆ
yes, i focused on Gb's
Yeah Im focusing on them as well
as U see on picture my Grezhul was 203 ๐
๐ hmm
Is grezhul better to use than thoran
metaslaves will hate using him without 9f but he works with 3f already, just its more RNG'ed
Bc everything I been doing I just can't beat this lvl, I think imma have to wait for Brutus or someone super tanky
My ferael is kind of weak maybe thats the issue
Did you have t3 armor on daimon?
3f grez vs 9f grez is a huge difference though. but you can start using at 3f (it worked for me.. sometimes ๐คฃ)
both are essential.
Thoran is 1 man army, past ch34 you will be using "Thoran cheese" means 4 heroes pulling enemies in 1 spot and dies after that + thoran deleting all enemies at once
Grezhul is powerful unit as well yet he is not the 1v5 hero.
you need both of them Ascended but Thoran is needed only on Ascended cuz of furnitures (you don't engrave him) meanwhile Grez is going to be maxed out
at that point ? My Daimon was 303 e30 with t3 set
Hmm mine is 203 with t2 and t3 boots
I can make t3 set for him but i was kind of saving it for grez
Hmmm
my current at ch34 is 203, 30si isn't that big. there are other priorities
Okay well my main question is what should I make my team rn and who should I be trying to pull to make a team of rn
Don't
Don't make T3 set for daimon
T3 set?
nothing you need to worry about for a while. tier 3(item)
Thanks, now I will not ๐
Honestly that as just confused me
Are you saying that should be the team I should be tryna build
The one in the top left of the SS, bc the units beside that one is what confuses me, what are they for
the easiest way to reach later chapters
It's a mistake, you'd just waste 4 stones, daimon is perfectly fine with T3 from resonance. Like you said, save gear for grezhul, he wants t4
meanwhile you build Lucretia and thoran later on
"T3 from Resonance" XD
when some people stops copying guides and start talking own words
Sounds like a plan, thanks ๐
I really need the guy with the syringes , I remember him being such a good support
you'll reach t3 resonance at the point daimon wouldnt be the priority anyway
? 
tell him how to reach T3 resonance if your advice is not using t3 stones on usefull heroes xD
No matter what game I've been playing, I was always entertained by people refusing to think but just blindly copying meta shit and guide that changes as fuck.
@stiff flicker Daimon is your first and best carry which u gonna use even in multifights so i think we can agree that its worth investing. you can wait for T3 resonate, sure but lemme tell you that in ch35 im not even T1 from resonating so... GL xD below I'll show you heroes I invested in and I have covered most of modes that I need. in the end, you do you
Well, to be honest I completely forgot that t3 reso is a difficult thing
not at all, wait for it xD
Any new codes
Uno, I mentioned T3 just because it's the highest you can get, if you're ch35 without even T1 reso, then huge xd for ya
Dos, sit down, you're not impressing me, T2 gb eq should go on grezhul and be upgraded there, daimon is early carry, not the best carry
Tres, I made T3 on daimon myself and I'm pretty damn sure it was a waste, daimon falls off quickly when multis start
xD
pierwsze primo, I had my Daimon upgraded to highest possible tier whenever it became possible and still don't regret it. T3 can be used by other heroes giving them T2 bonus so that's why I didn't make it T4 as in it I agree he's eventually falling off as a carry due to lack of burst.
drugie primo, you calling yourself a boxer but you're just a Chihuahua, sitting on knees and doing what others did.
trzecie primo, as u can see below Daimon still covers one of lineups in ch35 so once again I disagree its a waste of resources to invest in him
so going into an end cuz gym is waiting, if its waste or not, Daimon is long term use hero which I mentioned when giving advices above, decision is up 2 certain person and its not a reason for such kids to bark on. peace

well why you shouldnt t3 daimon because t2 5* and t3 doesnt have much difference and you want to save that t2 5* gear for grez imo
true but unlike T4, T3 ain't that big of a deal when u are active in events and other stuffs so overall well..
yeah
but daimon will drop off very quickly and wont be used anywhere except cr - thats why they suggest to keep him t2 5*
"drop out very quickly" when is that exactly ?
I dont know about the deficit people pushing campaign today, but when I started an alt, he can work at t2 5* for 100 def - maybe people today has pushing campaign like crazy
Like you wont see him appear anywhere
when I was active with campaign been pushing with 150+ deficit. will sit today with campaign maybe after gym so will see how far can he go. yet imo in ch35 he does still pretty well so for me giving t3 is not a big deal at all, especially when we consider other STR heroes worth upgrading.
3rd today xD
I think sometimes I still use him in campaign maybe, but he can work at t2 5* because he cant be touched.
yeah few t3 stones isnt a big deal, im having like 15 t3 chests in my bag - not sure about early game lol
eventually u need certain number of T3 in order to enable resonance gear so if he falls of or not he's worth putting it on him even if just for the sake of resonance :v
any recommendations? Iโm kind of stuck. Is the only way to get better gear through campaigns?
Stop making legendaries 
your mistakes are not the evidence, that's your personal choice only,
yeah I do boxing for nearly four years, if you're willing to check how I'm doing feel free to join me in the club, address in DM
Daimon is not a "long term use hero", he's a carry in early game, you can get ch28 in a month or so, soon after that he falls off
Hey guys ive been stuck on this stage, can anyone help?
why? what should I do then?
already read it but actually I donโt get it๐
Scared of chihuahua? Poor big boy, lemme know when you find your balls lady
These are fodder
and I take them to legendary+ first?
Take five of them (those circled in red are my recomm level them to 160 and make them l+
Whilst putting A tier heroes in the res crystal then when you hit 160 either reset them or feed them into 5 heroes closest or at 8 copies
so I only use my 160 fodder to ascend a tier heroes?
You can only ascend A tier heroes with 160 fodder
Just keep it simple take FIVE fodder level them up/ascend them etc. and put other heroes in here after resetting them
Ok I think I got it. Many thanks for explaining!
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Can someone help me in this stage?
How do I beat this stage
Guys how to stop Tasi and Athaliaโฆ
I'ma let you add my other acc you can try it's formations?
Add this a c
general answer would be someone with high dodge or brutus infront of athalia and any unit with attack higher than daimon to avoid tasi astral on him
Ur friend list is full
I cleared a spot my bad
Alright thanks
Still full tho hahah
best teams for these?
iโd do grez thoran daimon silas oden maybe
Who should I use for this stage?
I already beat that stage, but any tips for this one
Same thing I said but use Edwin as a tank not shemira. 
alright
She will carry better than wukong
should i replace wukong w/ anyone
Stuck here lmk if anyone has any ideas
I have never been more stuck on a stage
Daimon brutus farael ABaden oden
Abdaen gets 1 tapped
Send a video
Alr
You can also try lyca instead of either oden or abaden
The quality gonna be shit lol ๐
I was trying this but bel just Ults lol
Tried flexing nara, for the fera bec he fucks me over lol
Oh you can put nara on Belinda and try removing your faraels weapon. For some reason he sometimes uses his fear before the enemy farael can fear you if you do that
Yea did this for 30 tries
Fera has no wep on
This is basically what happens without nara
Put daimon right behind brutus, put a lyca where daimon is at currently
Yahh give that a try
Alr
Send a video again if it doesnโt work
Actually dm it to me so we donโt clutter here LMAO
That was this trick thanks I forgot about lyca
Yessir lets go
I will add you tho Bec most ppl don't help like that lol they just say use this and give up 
Because most of the time that formation just need more tries. Or simply gotta shift it around. Eventually you have to understand what you need to do by studying the heroes ๐
Fair I ran it 100+times just Lyca was the key I forget about her lol that initial haste is crazy
The first 25 chapters is usually daimon brutus lyca.. Maybe oden or ferael
Yea I recently got her haven't been in these chapters in awhile and been brezzing through most
tell me how i just used this exact comp -oden +rowan and beat 26-60 lmfao
It will be this way for a long time. Eventually brutus will go into 2nd team once you hit chap 31
It's fine. I only started using rowan at chap 32
i only just got my lyca to mythic, ive had awful luck with pulling her. i think i might swap to focusing on wilder for a bit
She works at e ๐
Her role is to haste at the start
she was just dying too quick and i got impatient tbh
I had 8 copies of Rowan in ch 20 last acc
You want to swap to wilder when the main 6 prio GB are 8/8 or A
who are those?
Damion
Grez
Oden
Fera
Silas
Thoran
i have all of that i just need fodder. should i still focus gb til i get that fodder?
