#lineup-help
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What team should i make with these heroes? I started today and dont know which heroes to level up
hello any help?
Stuck on this stage any recommendations?
Stuck on this stage any suggestions
Anyone have any advice for this stage? Tried a few different comps, have some slots in RC if needed nvm, beat it by leveling a bit
I keep getting stuck at early chapter 38, anybody have advice?
Any tips for this stage?
Good line up and formation
You try rowan tanking athalia?
Wut team should I do I am stuck at 10 28
ch 12-4 which ones should i use in a formation for general chapter 12?
I need help here. Not sure what I can do.. I see there's a lot of post already so if you can't get to me it's fine I'll post again later
I’ll try nd lyk 🫡
Raku grez farael oden and either miksha, daimon or brutus might do the trick
Will try it but grez seems to insta die even with my best str gear on
Not sure if it's the right channel but wondering what I should take from the 4 factions chest if this is my current roster
Save for now, you kinda messed up with your L heroes..
Get rowan Si +30 asap
=earlygame
How so?
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Start building fodders and ascend you current L to L+ once you get copies but dont ascend further
Rn you are stuck on lvl 140 until you get 2 more copies of each of those heroes which will be stuck at M+ most likely because you need another 4 copies of them then
Damn that was the plan since i had read it was a bad idea to go past L so fast but my in game mentor told me to bring my main 5 to L
Would pulling from the lightborn faction banner be a smart move considering 3 of my members are lightborn
No
You pull gb until you got all prio heroes at 8 copies
And you ascend fodders to prevent screwing up like you did (not too bad though, you got rowan M which is good and didnt get the others past L)
Would I be able to tank with grezul if I got him to legendary with food and fed my Hogan to scarlet for mythic ?
Idk if grezul is tank but I see him in the front line a lot
Sorry could you explain prio heroes?
=ascension101
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
Ok nvm I just see him in 5he from a lot and I just pulled enough to make him legendary and was wandering if he could sub Hogan
No
=earlygame read that dont ascend random heroes past E+
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Yes a really good one but he wants 9 furn ready before ascending him
Ok so don't do that
Looks fine on first glance, you can check with the one in pins in #classic-questions
Thanks a bunch have a good rest of your day/night
Been stuck on here for a bit min is there anything I can change
I'm close to getting enough dust for Hogan 120+
Thanks for the help you've helped me progress really far 😁 4 days in and on chapter 12
Can I have some help, I’m dying I’ve tried putting daimon back and front none work
Rowan cant tank without gear
Does daimon survive when swapping him with rowan?
Show your own lineup in battle
Wu falls off at lvl 100 not sure if its worth swapping as he pushed with daimon already
ye dats what im thinkin
It’s the boss that seems to be the problem freaking doges everything
No he dies so fast
Mirael raku out
Daimon is your carry and raku doesnt do shit before M+30
Who do I put instead
Ferael numisu (numi not optimal either but fine for now)
Steve for my Rowan to tank I need mythic gear I'm assuming
Do I level the ferael or? Level 1 ain’t gon do nothing
My biggest problem is palmer dying I need more copies to get him E+
bros a wizard I just won lmfao
Crystal, raku out
You need more than that, T1/2 gear as that gives dodge chance
Ah ok so what should I focus on?
Try hogan/eironn
Daimon/palmer/scarlet
Need more heroes
So keep pushing and summoning
I'm proper stuck
I've done tower and the balloon missions might push in the candy crush type mode for dust and exp
Erroin front just dies
Does he manage to pull first
Using mercs on balloon?
I've 100% peak and done all the balloons available
Could try grez to tank but doubt he survives
Lyca would be nice as she can die and still give a boost
Yea but then he dies
Brutus would be optimal
Saveas is your problem at that stage probably
That's why I was wondering if I get him L and scarlet M if it would be worth it but I'd be feeding hogan
Nah
Na it's them dumb ass bats
You lack levels overall thats your biggest problem
Yea ik I just need dust
I have 2400 hogan 120+ close
I just progressed really fast and dust is a big problem
Alright thanks for trying I'll just wait it out and try to push on my main
You also need fodders lol
You only got 4 heroes higher than E+
So max rc level is 120
Yea 😅 I have been pulling some but not a lot I've been pulling, a lot of cell hypo or stuff I don't need atm
I'm close to another legendary
Then I will have 5 L
But just need a lot of dust what's the best way to get dust?
Celehypo is good as it saves you copies later
Athalia really good too
Who is close to L?
maulers with 2 E+ fodders?
Yea I pulled her today
Afk or 
Saveas needs 1 more E+ food
Ah yeah you can make him L then true
Or golus to have another tank until you pull better stuff
Ah alr I'm staying ftp for now bec I whaled on my main 3 years ago and now I'm stuck with shemira at A 6*

She was my carry back then lol
Brutus, thoran, mishka from the top of my head
Grez can do work at some stages too just with his passive magic dmg reduction
Yea thanks for the help tho started this acc 4 days ago after not playing for years you and this server been big help
Guides in here are great 
70/150 Epic copies from Brutus and that skin
Oh I got 50 time emblem cards in the mail that how I get aw heroes right
should I just level the legendary heros or is there something lineup wise I can do?
Ye but you save those until you got 500+
Yes level 5 fodders only and i think its the best you can do for now
Daimon/hogan
Oden/rowan/nevanthi
=Earlygame level fodders
Put scarlet, oden, nevanthi, eironn in the crystal when you got the spotsand get out audrae
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Aight sounds good thanks
who should be my fifth though?
Can I do ankhira?
Can be anybody, its only about E+ fodders for now
Once you start ascending them to L+ you can change targets
How tf you get 500
Idk even know how I got 50 probably later game thing I'm assuming
Daily from shop, 10 monthly from shop after a certain chapter, events, money
Bad rates are like 600 

My last 4 pulls until i got a copy were 24, 40, 65, 65
What's the guarantee lol
65 being pity/max
Damn
Mhm
So should I save for 65 then open or just go for the 500
I'm trying to get that Solis I got her on my main love the art and a great sup
500
You want to commit to a hero when summoning
Alright
And you save 500+ so you can pick whatever is released and named "best" when you get there
Ah alr bet bet ty

Well in a few chapters from that but that will be fun
What hero should I work on ascending here?
Fodders
Golus would be fine for example
=Earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
No I mean like working towards mythic/ascended, or should I wait until I have more heroes?
You dont work towards that
You set wishlists and pray to get 8 copies
You dont ascend non fodders before having copies except rowan daimon and raku as those have a powerspike at M already
👍
You could make an L+ golus though
And save two ankhira copies so you can get her L+ once you get two more E+ fodders too
Like golus + golus and saveas for L golus and adding golus to get L+
Yep
Can any massive brain individual help me with this between tassi and ezizh my daimon is struggling to ult a second time
Skriath doesnt need to be on the crystal as he doesnt do anything for you now
Also heey Steve haven't seen you in a bit
Is daimon protected or does thoran die too fast and gets daimon killed?
Some support or healer might be better than eironn
Hes protected essentially
Hey hey
Ye been some busy days haha
And when i popped in somebody else already answered 
He dies fast and thoran fears them for a solid few seconds
Tried it with Brutus protecting him it was a worse outcome with Eironn
Well you also did it right and put lyca in that spot, ezizh mind controls it and pulls her in anyway , good use of her haste and death
Yeah
Might only be a matter of retries and tasi banish rng tbh
Team looms fine just needs some more sustain so daimon survives longer ig
Like silas or rowan?
Tried it the silv just instantly tps to him.
Ah damn the int target..
Thats why i like rowan he leaves his pots at least
Oh you got rowan
I have e+ Rowan
Not sure if he's gonna work tho at e+
I'm thinking maybe some ferael rng idk
Sure does
Health pots and if he manages to survive energy/cc ult
Silvina is annoying but at least he leaves behind a healing potion
The ferael comp actually worked nicely it kept fearing tassi and someone else but ezizh still did his things in the end lemme try Rowan ferael
Ye sounds like my go to team lol
Fera cc is really nice and rowan one of the if not the best supports in the game
Yeah
It's kinda working but ezizh still ends up messing everything up in the end
Idk maybe oden on this since my main problem is ezizh
If its only him keep retrying
Matter of rng
Nah will be taken down by silv
Especially early on with no investments
Alright
Need help, I can get down to Lucius with RNG but my Lucretia isn’t dealing enough damage to kill him
Is this the best line up I can play? Do I have to switch smt and what's the positioning?
Try using abelinda, maybe in place of Oden, maybe putting rowan frontline and her in his spot
Does anyone have any suggestions for 28-12? I have tried afkhelper and the formations tab, but every comp that i can copy that passed has a 3F daimon. I can match the daimon dmg sometimes, but still not enough to beat the stage
https://i.imgur.com/If1B8Wm.jpeg
what formation should I make with this?
Is there anything I can change to make it work?
You have a Brutus ? If yes place him In front of Daimon and just make Daimon in the behind
Lyca Thoran front, middle Behind Silas and Left and Right Daimon and Rowan
I don’t xd
Help me out guys
3 days since i vr been stuck here still have no clue what to change. I ve tried all switching but nothing work
put daimon mid or topand rowan behind brutus
Guys I’m stuuuuck, any help with 14-27? It’s mostly tank so which hero should I level up to swap with wukong?
didnt work unfortunately 😭
My lineup
unfortunately not haha, everyone jsut insta dies
hm
change rowan with thane
and put him in the middle and make it like this lucius daimon thane brutus kren
if not work, switch places kren mid daimon bottom behind brutus lucius top frontline and thane behind lucius
Like this
nope put daimon top frontline and behind him lucius thane bottom backline, brutus frontline and krne middle
unfortunately not, idk why im struggling so hard w it
have u tried more times?
yeah tried multiple
hm what s the issue? can u record
well
i believe ferael melts them
the time i tried to screen record, it worked haha
haha u see? U must try at least 15 times if u see ur close just keep trying
yeah haha
but thane won t work always so if u are having troubles put rowan back if u lack of supp
hmm, now time to do lvl 40 😭
haha gl
I need so much help with this ezizh and tassi are giving me absolute hell
I've been at it all day today I just can't beat it to save my life even with rng
Silas ?
Any suggestions
can someone help? been stuck on this one for a bit
Can someone please suggest me 3 formations for heros of esperia
what are the best teams i could make for campaign?
Currently on 38-44 and was wondering what unit(s) to invest in that would benefit my box
303 raku
309 Oden
309 kren
209 mishka
Idk how u don't have raku built yet 
Roster hasn't had any significant change, maybe except for Ferael M
@static egret this is what I used Im not sure if it was rng but it worked well for me
Eironn pulled everyone essentially besides lyca. He works even at e so give it a go
I only saw this just now and i've already passed that stage. Thanks though! I'll keep Eironn in mind next time. Is he in the middle of your team?
Yeah all the time he pulls majority of the heros he's very good
how tf do you even get the sunny bouquet things
Wrong channel but it even tells you in the event under resource aquisition
just do dailies
I need help please 
Ah yes same same
Lyca for brutus maybe? If fera can fear in time and it helps daimon enough might work
Pushed a little more any advice on how to pull the Isabelle bec she is always last one alive
Nvm got it
Nara would help, you got a choice chest with her inside at ch9
Alright
Otherwise check =afkhelper
Fera can't fear fast enough. I'll give afk helper a shot.
Remove his weapon and try again
At chapter 12 .Yea I was wondering what I should pull out that chest I just pulled a Rowan so I was thinking getting a Rowan to L+ bec I'm close on food to leveling him hup to legendary
But I'm stuck untill I get dust I move up like 1 or 2 levels bev of luck
I am doing dailies and i’m only getting the blooming branches
You have to buy other ones
Or get them gifted twords you by popularity event
And it says the twisted realm gives them to you
ahh i see
Nara if you dont have her yet, scrolls otherwise
Yeah rowan L+/M is fine
No I don't have nara yet ill pick her up if I don't her by the time I finish out chapter 12
I'm 1k dust from getting my 5th legendary to 120+
Normal to be dust capped
Yea wish I could dust on my other account lol I got 60k just chilling 🤣
Any ideas
Those ascensions 
Give rowan +30 and daimon +20 Si
Would help a lot
Check =earlygame even if its way too late by now..
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
whats wrong w rowan diamon kren
my rowan is +9 and daimon +9rn
Read the guide above
Rowan daimon were fine at M, kren was too early as you lack copies and you got a few too many L heroes on that one picture already wasting fodder for others..
ahh ok, i skim through it but thought that kren was still alright
Daimon +20 first then rowan +20 and +30
🫡 yessir
Kren needs more investment to be a reliable carry
yeah
how are u at 38-44 with this much lvl and heroes lol
am I the lucky one or just because I'm trying for thousand of times
at lvl 394 I'm at 38-8 and I'm obviously a nb both with heros and items
Who should I place in resonance for campaign on 9-2 currently
Get Daimon to 240 and Shemira to 220
Any advice

Does daimon survive frontline?
Could try
Brutus/lyca
Fera/rowan/daimon
Posting the rest of your box helps with advice for next time 
Any recommendations ?
i’m still stuck can anyone help?
Could try using daimon as carry even if he is 20 lvl below mirael.. not sure when he overpowers her
Also stop making randon heroes L+ and read =earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Didnt i give you some formations to try yesterday? 
Lineup is exactly the same
Like that rowan likely gets oneshot by saveas, followed by daimon, followed by the rest of your team

I did not know they were the same lol bec I was on 12-7 and now I'm on 12-24 🤣
it says to ascend to l+
that’s what i was following
Kind of I kill half of the them,then Isabelle 1 shots my whole team 🤣😅
Nara, cc to keep her under control, lyca haste to speed up your entire team killing her
Yea I put them on my wish list so I don't get stuck anymore
Fodders to L+ not good heroes
You get a free copy later no need to WL her
Ah alright then should I put thoran for his cheese later
You copy the wishlist in pins and replace em with the heroes from =ascension101
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
Once they got 8 copies
Ok bet
I somehow beat it
I just kept trying it and got good RNG and killed Isabelle
It's kind of embarrassing to be asking for help with my formation at my level but I'm fr lost, my current formation works somewhat but I'm still struggling so please someone give me some advice
Hey @terse swift I an sorry to Tell you but I think you need to restart
You only have 1 Cops of Daimon, Daimon is essential
=beginner guide
@terse swift dw I did the same 🤦 I'm restarting now bec my main is hard stuck chapter 27
I had a lot invested into shemira bec when I played she was the carry but times have changed lol
the new blendia carrys with damage but
my tanks cant stay alive
ayo hold up im progressing with the bad daimon??
Probs gonna restart, is there a way to wipe my account or do I just have to make a new one?
where's the guide?
You can start new server
You go to servers and pick a new one skip to chapter 2-1 and reroll until you get what you want
=beginner
Idk the command ugh
Also enter redeem codes for gems and extra scrolls
a
=earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
That lol🤣😅
@old lagoon here but you can also look in #faq-resources
well first try got daimon and thoran. plus palmer for buffs but ik he isnt that good
without even using gems to summon i must be lucky asf😭
Palmer carrying me rn on heals
Very good luck
Any suggestions? Was able to clear the stages before without big problems - But this one seems Impossible with everything I've tried. I'm sure there will be a solution, since the stages before were doable.
Would also take suggestions for my RC - Don't have a free spot rn, but if you see a unit which should be added, I can swap someone out
just got another daimon( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
i played back when the game came out, i remember it as the og of idle games so its just the veteran luck doing me justice dw
Yea same that's why my account is fucked and hard stuck @terse swift
Shemira A 4* feels useless when she use too put the team on her back a few years ago
yeah she was op
oh bet and saurus @somber dock
Help on this one a bit stuck as u can see
Got my daimon to mythic 😁 but struggling a bit on this stage. Have tried a few different formations im going down before most can ult. would appreciate some help?
I read you can use raine to funnel energy from rowans ability into daimon, kinda trying that at the moment but not sure how exactly it works, maybe too early
Put daimon behind a tank
Trying to get through campaign just not sure what to use. This is what I got so far
Current team is Daimon, Talene, Rosaline, Rowan and Oden. Any changes I should be making?
who should i swap and for who
I am Ch22 playing from 1 week , wanted to ask you guys, which heroes do I focus on later on, to not slow down my progress
None
You are spreading your ascensions pretty much.. give rowan +30 no more furn and no engravings for him and daimon anymore
=afkhelper
=ascension101
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
yeah I have tried almost all of the stage 3 ones, and I haven't won at all. im thinking it is my investment?
thoran cheese / ukyo both don't work
Probably yeah
Thoran might be a deficit issue too
Hard to say without any pictures 
well im like 40 levels above everyone who used the thoran cheese, I am just wondering if Eironn si 30 is actually needed ?
rowan just never dies with the second ult with thoran, he gains this shield and just stays alive
Most likely the issue with cheese then yeah
Overlevelled
oh I lied, I am 58 levels above him :'L
brute force? and I am like dead in the middle, too low of a level for aniz comp to work, too high of a level for thoran cheese to work :L
If you other teams can clear it your ainz might be able to too with some rng
omg finally ukyo killed her AFTER 3 WEEKS ON THIS STAGE
the last one I think was just a single stage where it was thoran cheese as well :') it took me 2534 tries
no chance right?
maybe lyca or do you have Silas Copies ?
i have tried lyca and i have silas e+
Maybe Try Silas or Pull Mirael w Nara
How to pass 18-12?
Don't use Alna since she slows everyone down. Brutus, Grez, ASolise, Rowan, Daimon would be a good bet. If that doesn't work. Brutus, Lyca, ASolise, Rowan, Daimon
Im stuck on 9-40 any tips?
When asking you should take screenshots of what you're up against, and ideally your box as well. Especially in early game. Kinda like the pic I attached
Here
My units just cant take the dmg they die pretty quickly when the front heroes die and i have tried many times
It looks like that's what you can do atm. Trying doing Tamrus, Thoran, Daimon, Silas, ASolise.
Any tips? Got a lot of decent Elite/Elite+ graevebprns, also legendary awbaden and awezizh, not sure who to run. Stuck on this battle 😢
Good job following guides
+20 daimon when possible
Swap em around
Thoran/waden
Ferael/silas/daimon
He doesnt get charged by estrilada that way and baden can do some dmg too
Hahah thank you, I’ve been trying so hard to follow guides lol
No ezizh? The 30% defense bonus and the invincibility/aoe seem valuable, not sure
30% def? Invincibility?
You can use him in certain stages to lock down an enemy carry like mirael saveas or isabella for example
Unfortunately grez is pretty lack luster before 9f, you can try slotting in thoran for his res + cc. I grinded until 30 so far with that team but thoran over grez and lyca where it’s needed
hypogean bonus! and he goes invincible for a bit periodically
so he's actually alive with daimon instead of it just being a 1v5 at the end lol
Why do you have a random L Izold?
Is that bad I got another izold and just evolved it
Depends what you consumed to evolve him...
Dw it was just another copy of him
That would only go to E+
What does that mean
If you got two copies of Izold it would become Elite+, to become Legendary you had to consume other units
Oh
So it kinda depends what two E+ you used, if you used 4 skill heroes I would restart entirely
I should have built meta for 31-x. What should/can I do to progress?
just restarted because i was hardstuck chapter 19, is this a good team for this early on and should i replace anyone?
swap lyca with daimon. dont put your carries away from enemy ezizh. he charms the farthest enemy
You have Ascended Solise. Stargaze 3 copies of her. (STARGAZE NOT TIME EMBLEMS) Get her to 309e60 ASAP. Use her. She will hard carry you.
Also use your Alna/Lucretia/Nevanthi. You have paid for these heroes, you should use them lol
Yeah either way she still dies too fast
Been using all this is most consistent comp I have lol and I don’t have the recourses atm to sig item 30
- Daimon
- Mishka
- Oden
- Asolise
- A crowd controller. Try ferael if u have.
Advice on team D; trying to get through 22
U need to show stage and box. No one can give u advice if they dont know ur team comp
wth is wrong with ur diamonds? And looking at ur box. I guess it's better to restart.
Wait is it actually that bad… there was an incident let’s just say with my little bro
Yah, Shemira is like "trash" She became useless. Belinda also is like not anymore in the meta. I think restarting over will be morr beneficial with u. To avoid mistakes try reading =earlygame.
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Someone help stuck on this one for awhile I have like every u it on prio list
- Thoran
- Daimon
- Rowan
- Silas/oden/pippa
- Nara
Oh shoot that’s the wrong screen shot
It’s this one sorry
that's the same
Thanks beat it
np
If ur still here do you know this one
nara on belinda and put daimon below.
So swap daimon and Rowan?
daimon and lyca. Below not back
I haven't played since like, 2020ish. Not really sure what to do, both lineup wise and just in general. Any sort of pointers would be welcomed.
Daimonnnn
=earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
They get clapped unfortunately, I’ve found my current front line to be my best bet in terms of survival atm just cause others aren’t as invested in, been messing with the backline trying to figure out how to give luc most value since just got her si30 e30
Sounds good. What else though? This is vaguely what I've got.
Are you f2p ?
Niceee you got Brutus just make Brutus In front of Daimon and get Silas
Hmm, not sure what to do till I get SIlas in that case. How are the twins? My other graveborn options. / any other units stand out?
Yeah Twins are good maybe Eironn or Nara when you need to pull something
No
Thats what I thought Damn look at your Asolise wow
@dense swift first aw and rowan
grats man, good rolls 👍
Yes
Is Oden worth putting into this team? Also got Silas, so I'm swapping the twins for him I think.
Oden is good too just try him
Don’t suppose I could get some help making 4 teams for Temporal rift?
Yeah just finished her and luc to 1* right before team fights, not excited for it though at like 31-10 rn
Could someone help me with a team to clear stages 30+
i just did a random team so far so good but idk if its the best i could have
Restart account and look at the earlygame guide
wdym with restart account?
Happened to me aswell. What they mean is that you should start over. Switch accounts and follow the guide
You need a new account delete yours and start new you need good Wishlist and the main beginner informations
TwT but ive come couite far man
Yeah 
But like you can restart and have stronger heroes which make your experience nicer and also more fun than stressing with wrong( or less useful in early game) heroes in early game 
OK thanks :>
Btw what beginners guide should i follow??
the one in #classic-questions
stage 16-12. Tried different approaches but failed...maybr some expert can give me a line up advice? 
My roaster
This
thankss
So isa killed your whole team ?
The Assassine teleports to backline kills everyone and ultimately daimon falls
He is my super carry. Should I put him where she teleports so the other units have a chance?
No the assassin teleports to weakest mage/support
Somehow it still worked when I put daimon backline with the one who died first

It is now time for daimon to switch to backline?
I read that after some time he should be placed back instead of hypercarry frontline
Because your enemies will become stronger so some1 likes Estrida or Golus make your daimon harder to ult and sometime 1 shot ur daimon
I am in need of help in what to do in this situation.
Your going to struggle bec you don't have a early game carry like daimon
I had to restart bec I messed up on that
Oh you made alot of L thats bad and you should Follow the guide in #classic-questions pinned
Finally finished chapter 12 let's go
Can I use shemira for food bec she is not good anymore or should I not
No you shouldnt because if you have a A shemira you can link her to A dimensional hero likes Mulan incoming
Daimon or rowan
How many E daimon you have
So lets save that chest for now until you have food for rowan or 1 more daimon copy
Been struggling to find a palmer copy lol had him since chapter 1 and he still epic 😭
Dont make many L too
Bet bet
Did you play forest mania ?
Is it better for me to restart?
Yea I was not getting the food and really under leveled so I got grez and pipa to L
A little bit
If you do it will def help and you will zoom through, this acc is only 5 days old and I'm chapter 13
Yes becasue you wasted a bit too much resouces in early game so it would took you longer to catch up with other
I have the comeback benefit would that help me catch up?
You have 5 free stage from friends daily too make sure to use that too
My friends ain't ever fkn help lol
Lol, add me
That would but you will def cannot catch up in pvp modes and events
Can I if I'm not on your server?
Yes you can add friends from any server
Oh cool bet what's your name?
TonySteak
Bet
Shit chapter 40 damn
Should I level up diamond more than the rest or keep them around =
daimon should always be the highest until 240
Ok I've been keeping = bec my two supps are still E and E+
its ok but daimon is your main so he should have more levels than others 
Ok I just put him too 139 ran out of gold 🤦
time to grind towers 
Yea

Help
Did you try alnaGB or ainz
I got diamond to L+ just pulled one and used that hero chest and he's a bigger help now at 141
also ping me if you need to do the forest mania ( ingame chat is ok too
)
? Wym do the first mania?
I did that and that's how I pulled the diamond bec faction a scrolls I just hate that game mode lol
Ah for you to do it 🤦
yea
Ty will do
but some stages i didnt do it myself so 
Before you told me too add you
What would be the best starter line up with these + what characters should I seek?
Daimon + 4 GB, you should look for 4 copies of rowan, a copy of Palmer and rest all to GB (faction scroll from forest mania)
You should also go to the rickety cart and reset the heroes your no using and put the rest in your Resonating crystal bev you have lvls in ppl your not using
Okay so Daimon and 4 any graveborn characters?
yes
So rowan is not needed atm?
this is fine, you reset heroes when they hit the level cap
Ok I have not pulled a single thoran 😭
I mean like daimon + 4gb means no rowan
after his level reaches 61 
Lol Hogan gonna keep tanking lol
Okay last question. Does it matter what gbs I use then
nope, they should survive a little bit, but dont level Rare GBs
I don't have any elite gbs 
i bet thoran is not gb 
Theory for now try daimon in the back with Rowan and navathj(wilder supp ) and use thoran and wukong front try that I'm not amazing at the game but that's what I would use as a team for now
Oh yeah thats one
I'll try that, thanks
You can swap wukong and diamonds around if one dies to fast
have you check the Formations button 
u can try
thoran/mishka, brutus, ferael/tasi(oden/lyca), rowan, daimon
both worked. Ty for the advice
put arden in reso, try hogan diamon arden rowan rosa
arden is a great for early game CC
Who should Rosa fallow?
daimon
Ok problem is diamond ain't staying up front without double heals
And Rosa dies to fast
maybe try level up your characters or daimon
I got it
khasos killed the whole team ?
Had to have Rowan sacrifice to keep daimon up for those extra secs
try Lyca brutus nara eiron daimon
or Rowan brutus daimon ferael oden
looks like you can M oden 
Nice
i havent dont much pvp and i'm diamond in hoe, any tips/teams i should use that work with what i got?
Made a little more progress but here I'm just getting wiped 😭
help me w line up im new to the whole line up thing
Restart your account and read the beginner guide you only have 1 Daimon and I think you didn’t see the beginner guide because you ascended heroes to normal Legendary
why would u let him reset? His account can be doable. Just make him read =earygame to prevent mistakes from happening again. Lastly, He ascended Rowan which can bypass the restriction. His only mistake is anasta. But overall, it is still a prio hero so he doesn't necessarily need to restart. He just need to have more knowledge how to utilize resources
Any advice on what could beat this I'm close
pippa middle. Repeat until rng let u win.
Ok
Should I move anyone else around
if daimon can front let him front. Also i guess u necessarily dont need scarlet in that stage
Alright who should I swap scarlet she is my second lead DPS bec of her implosion and the stun type ability
try running 1. Grezh
2.Daimin
3. Silas/Arden
4. Pippa
5.Arden/silas
Alright bet I'll move stuff around till it works ty
ur pippa still not 141 so it's not a 100% she can tp hogan/estrilda so just rng it. retry a few times
Ok lol she keeps tp grez
switch posiiton grez and daimon then
just try. Maybe at the back of ebemy lineup. Her 141 is 100% guaranteed tp of enemy so I don't really know about the rng stuff where she lands em
Ok
wait you shouldnt?
No that’s what’s telling in the beginner guide
I just ran it 50 or so times got the tp once I'ma just wait till reset lvl up and get food for Rowan L+
why my grezhul die so fast?
Hi i'm new in the game, have 3 days, any know what formation i can do with this characters, i mean for Campaign
Keep dyin with this one
Wait so daimon in the back and mulan in the front?
Got it, thanks!
He has L daimon tho?
where i can see the guides ?
Faq-recourses first tab beginners guide
Also pinned at the top of questions for a pic
Stuck 12-26. Any way I can cheese my way past it? Or do I just need to be patient n wait for more exp?
No daimon?
Still pretty new. Not sure what I'm supposed to be using. I thought the first thing to do is get those fodder units to 160 and L+ right?
Yea but daimon is a big hard carry early game
Yea this is right
What team are you running rn@runic pebble
This is what I'm trying to use
Have you tried thoran instead of saveas ? @runic pebble
Maybe Rowan for heals
I just finished this stage today lol your way higher level lol I'm wondering where I went wrong how you get sm dust lol
Dang still lost with this comp. What did you use?
Not sure lol. I have spent roughly 50$ in the month I've had this game haha. So that might be impacting it.
Ah makes since I've only played in this acc ftp for 6 days
Stuck here
Hmm replace Arden with aw Belinda
The assassin chick who does she tp too?
I replaced Arden with Belinda, we have a winner lol. Think I can make it to chapter 13?
Yea
Highly recommend build daimon so you don't have to restart or you will get stuck @runic pebble
Okay, I can start doing that.
He will carry you very far
Ws
Keep playing when you get stuck again just ss your stage
Okay thank you, you've been a lot of help! I appreciate it.
Np I've only learned bec the people in here 🤣 I'm trying to get to stage 14 in my first week on this acc but I'm dust capped
Make an l+ hogan and mythic ur scarlet
@hidden stone any advice for this stage?
Try Rowan middle and daimon frontline
Alright
If tht doesn’t work try swapping hogan and daimon with each other
Where daimon is currently
Ok
That's a no go on both tries both 5 times each
What’s doing the most dmg to you in the log
Mirale
he doesnt have nara, pippa is his choive
Pippa did not work ducky
Tried for about 30 mins then set up a auto clicker her RNG just doesn't work
take all ur team to 141
Yea ik I need dust tho
Alright I'll just wait this one out then thanks to all you anyway 🤝
Have u done like tower/peaks of time
All peaks 100% and I'm stuck in tower
Or the current voyage/mostly valley
try
- Daimon
- Grezh
- Silas
- Pippa
- Nemora
@twilit dune he doesn't unlocked mv yet
Don't have MV yet
Ohhh mb I didn’t know when it unlocks
if this wont work then i think lvling and waiting is the only choice. Take pippa to 141 first
Pipa fucks over my grez and other just die I'll just have to wait for exp
u just need to wait then. Hope u can pull more cc and utility heroes gor easier pusjinh
show stahe
stage
- Brutus
- Daimon
- Sils
- Oden/Talene
- Aezizh
@pale kettle
@covert sigil
Should I wait to get 1.. more copy or make my Rowan L and,get one more later and make him L+
Bec I'm gonna get fodder cards from the event and it will be my last food
Just need 1 Hogan
I dont have to play it if i already finished it
Just click “accept”
Oh that's dope af

I'm 6 flowers short from the blue GB /LBevent box bev I forgot to claim one 

That would be 9 hogans from M rowan 
Yup
Should I get the other Hogan's before L+?
Some people save their copies and I don't understand that part fully
I'm still cursed with E palmer since day 1
Some heroes only work at A so they save until they have enough, or they have higher prio heroes working on
Like I was not getting food so I L my pipa and my grez bev I needed lvls
But now I have to L+ them or build a whole new L
Try not to make L heroes if you cant L+ them that costs alot of fodder 
Can someone suggest me 5 common PvP lineups for defense setup? (or link me a trusted guide?) I'll also send my current formation, (I lack 2 formations for Hero of Esperia) so do suggest 2 more teams if you can ^^
I'll keep it mind I just had to, to get 120+ bec I was stuck on chapter 9
You should focus on 3 strong teams instead of 5, on defense too
fill the rest 2 with whatever?
Yea
Got it, thanks!
You only need to win 3/5 
I'm somehow at Diamond on Hero of Esperia, so the defence should do some job as well kekw
new player here. not really sure what my lineup should be aside from having daimon in it lol
Level daimon as much as you can and throw in 4 Graveborns with him thats it 
@fading briar should I be building 4 GB?
Dont build many for now, try get daimon to M first
Ok I'm working on that
Should I use the faction cards from the event on GB and just pull a Hogan
Only got 2 E+ food
Wait why you have 3 fane … whats your wishlist
That all from purple crystal 😭😭😭


I surprisingly have not pulled thoran 😅
Everyone else but him🥲
I want to swap out Hogan for him eventually
W rng

My cell rng is good ish
Oh thats nice 
I pulled twins and morale day one out of 1, 10 pull I was. Hyped but don't need either rn
No aw heroes kina want one 😅
But there hard to get A from what I've heard
Yes hypo and cel are harder to A
I ment AW heroes
Oh Awk heroes… if you are not a spender it would take you quite a long time to get 1 built 
Yea I've heard months close to a year 
Yeah around that for an A 1 star awk for a f2p 
I was thinking about putting some money in when I get paid but idk yet
If you are going to spend, ask someone like Asta or OperaFan 
I might just get the monthly card

Save up time gazer cards from the advanced one then build someone
theres a guide on spending money in the faq
Bet bet
Any jelpers
seeing the amount of legendaries you have, I'd consider restarting the game.
about the lineup... cant help much if u dont show your box, below u have ex.
Is grezhul ok to use in chapter 19?
Grez is kinda bad until you get his 9 furniture
did you try Verdant Longbow on her ? also try with other beast, on Lucy i mainly use talismane/green orb
@runic bolt who needs khaz 

@ornate hollow what did you use for 39-24?
probably copies from firefly
Was the luci round difficult
was quite a while ago so not sure if I remember
though luc vs thoran is annoying and fera is not fun against either
Been trying for two days but still no luck
check gear
you can also try owl/big lion pets, merc a fat luc, or level rc
I'm still looking for a strong luc
Hjelp. Ferael not fun to play against
don't need too fat tbh, e86 is good, furn dupes help, si probably doesn't matter much from my experience
I'm using a e87 merc and its not working
Anyone have suggestion for line/formation?
did you try a different pet? owl/lion/talis work better sometimes
I dont have a strong lion
- Daimon
- Brutus
- Oden
- Pippa
- Ferael
Oh wait i just seen this, amma try it hold on
Holy legendaries
xD
yep i know, ill just have to create new, wanna try playing this game
It worked after a shit ton of tries, thank you very much 🙇
Hardstuck again I see other peoples formations I have the characters and they are even more powerful but they just don’t work
Try again. RNG is a huge factor
Tried a shit ton
These guys must have auto clickers and just go forever I’ve tried at least 50 times
- Daimon
- Thoran
- Ferael
- Rowan/silas
- Silvina
Ok let me try it / what exactly does ferael do he just fears and stuns them ?
yup
If this doesn't work, try:
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Arden
Ok I’ll try that this one doesn’t seem to hold up to well
Arden worked thanks both of u I need to try him more
i always forget that standard is call not grace. I always use grace:3
He's good early on, strong cc support but at later stages he dies before he gets to do anything. That's when you switch to other cc heroes 
Ya I am about to hit 160 mark so we will see who I upgrade next I’ll ask my mentor
Oh my 
Is this okay?
Make sure to remember what I told you before.
Early on, go all in your Daimon as he's going to be your carry for a long - long while.
If you're asking about formation alone, then it's best to have the generic setup of
Daimon
Tank
Support
Tank
Support #2
You can swap Support #2 with Daimon if the first formation fails
So this?
Rowan generally wants to be in the middle-backrow.
Wukong can also work as a temporary tank so if Daimon frontline doesn't work, then swap places with Wukong
Well, that's Thoran's job (especially at later levels) until much much later on 
How does he help though?
On his later levels, when he resurrects he fears heroes around him which provides time for Daimon to ramp.
At even later levels, he's used for Thoran cheese taking advantage of humongous deficits to work on your favor
Well, you don't level Thoran at your current stage. Not much investment besides putting him into your resonating crystal which is technically free
anyone have suggestions on who out of these top heroes i should be focusing on rn?
Can someone name me one very good team and two teams for the Campaign bosses i am chapter 31
And I got Grez 9f
most of the cases
Which chapter are you ?
Don't wanna restart will waste abt $120 😭, I can send box though
34
And your heroes are level 286 ?
131 lvls difference, still my GB lineup wins but i need i30 on thoran and 9f on lucretia to beat their parts
Daimon, Rowan, Mishka, Nevanthi
currently hard stuck on my beginner account and stuck here too, help is appreciated. 
Okay thanks than I’ll grind to Oden which I wanted to do
use the lineup i sent to Zero and focus on those heroes (brutus can stay on 1 copy)
if i have faction scrolls to use, do you think i should focus wilder, lb or graveborns?
No Daimon?
Restart your acc you don’t have a Daimon

Even Lucius?, Thought he was mid
for team 2 just use lucretia and 4 level 1 heroes
Ohhhh, yeah, you... Made a lot of Legendaries uhh.. i'd suggest you to remake and read up beginner guides that are pinned in the server
I regret not getting help at this game 
you can use him for idk... faction tower for the early stages.
Hmm I'm in abt 193 rn
I meeeaaan you can continue playing on that account.. but it'd be much smoother if you just remake tbh 🗿
GB only until you get the first 6 GB priorities to Ascended
funniest part @fallen void my grez isn't 9f
Don't restart. Just fix ur wishlist and let those trash L heroes rot in ur box or either make them fodder.
Yeah that's what I'm doing, I haven't updated my wishlist in long tbh lemme go check
graveborns always
i meant faction tower. faction specify
oh ok, wouldnt wilder faction scrolls be beneficial for me rn? or are gbs that much better
I mean tbf, the only trash Legendary tier he has is that wilder lady with daggers
GBs are where most of the good heroes are, so more likely to get good heroes than any other faction
remove solise, eorin, nemora. Put in Mishka, Nevanthi, Lyca/Pippa
Si señor
Yee ik
gbs for Daimon. Personally, I'm doing half wilders and half graveborn and it was working for me but the guide is gb so gb always
For Maulers: Take out Anubjs guy and Cobra guy. Switch with Skreg and Skriath if they aren't ascended yet.
Take out Brutus if you already have a copy switch with Numisu
khaz can be useful at times
Don't shit with me rn 
help help
help with what ? u just started an account dude.
here is all u need to know about early + EVERYTHING U NEED #1041161459935223828 message
Daimon
Brutus
Arden
Mulan
Oden
Only Daimon is important tbh. Everyone else is meh. Go all in on Daimon
For Early, U want daimon and 4 fodder heroes to level up. Then U can resonate some tanks and supports. Tip: U should not automatically use trial heroes. They can be beneficial later on even if it's just 3 days.
LOL are there any options from Oden till I have him A
ferael for example
that was my core before i changed for grez pos 4 flex that I was switching
Can you just name me a good team for my box
since u have joan I'd put her in front and grez on back
So Daimon, Joan Grez, Silas and … ?
A crowd controller
brutus joan daimon silas grezh
K
would anybody advise ascending any of these further? have read that skrieth and antandra are good options
Only Skriath and Anasta. Antandra is second priority group
anasta and antandra ar good options. Skriath only works when he gets his 3f. For now, just save fodders and copies
ty both:))
Ahahah nice! She OP OP
Is there anything I can do here?
Did you read beginner ? guide just restart your acc
why
=earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
And you need Daimon
Who I use
Besides Lucretia, you are seriously lacking in heroes. Did you read the beginner guides? You have too many M+/M/L+/L. Your fodder is spread too thin. You are lacking many useful A heroes. Thoran especially doesn't want any engraving which will make future chapter pushing harder. Honestly for teams, just use Daimon carry and Lucretia until 3 teams. At 3 teams, you will be stuck waiting because of your bad investment choices.
Do you own Ainz/Bedo?
It would be best to read the beginner guides once more. You have too many heroes ascended to L. What I would do is keep pulling until you get another copy of Daimon and get him to M. Get his SI to +20 and keep his level 40 above your Resonating Crystal (RC) level.
Can someone please help make a team for grotesque mage for right now? If I lack a hero I can loan one
Yeah Ik started 3 years ago and did some bad mistakes 😦
I think I shouldn’t say that i gazed 10 Copies of Daimon for 5 star lol
Does anyone know any comps for peggy and what she goes good against or what type she is
any HF bosscomp advises for graveborn? (everyone SI30 , 9/9 including Awakened)
@runic bolt did you manage to find a good comp for 42-20-4 maybe?
I haven't attempted it seriously yet, will try sometime in the next couple of days. Might want to try with Ezizh(Thoran taint) in P4 and Nem P5 and see if that works.
Oh I see, thanks
Jhawks comp almost worked for me but seems really high rng been running a couple of hours
I cleared with Wutus in R2 so ran R4 for like 5 min with Ezizh, then quit,
Wll see how it goes later. What did you sue in R2?
this was fairly low rng
original clear used green ball, took it from the formations tab
Icic, yeah I didn't put too much thought into it. Just tried R2 and R4 for a few minutes. Let me know how Ezizh goes for you if you try. I'll see if I can come up with something later

Id restart ngl
The heroes u invested in are 💩
Ho ;-;
It’s not too bad he does have grez Rowan mishka but the Lucius is the problem
I kinda would Also recommend one but it’s rebuildable it would just take a bit
Yea no daimon and no scarlet built up is hurting you a lot
I have scarlet legendary+ and i try to level up her but its long
what chapter are you and how much have you spent
^
Im chapter 22
Not only the heroes but also the decisions, spamming legendaries is terrible
Ha
Have you spent on this game
No
Reminds me on my old box
I’d restart then
Can i keep this acompt and restart an other ?
yes
Yes
You should really restart if you want to progress farther; you will not do well soon if not already
Reread the pins for hero choices and ascension strategies.
Restart on the newest server
Ok thank you all
In a month of optimized gameplay, you'll be farther on your new account than this one
Probably farther if you get lucky
I restart on new server i think
=ascension101 for group priorities; you'll build based on the initial group. You can check the pins in #classic-questions for the starter wishlist
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
Okay thx 👍🏻
Out of the list, try to build Daimon to 203 immediately, followed by Rowan 300, and then Raku 303
Ok
Daimon and Raku considered to be excellent carries, followed by Rowan whom enables them
Daimon is the best if you have him though, bar none
With daimon,raku and rowan i can put other character like grezhul or what ?
Without Alna and a lot of other cost-intensive investments, you won't see Grezhul in campaign beyond Chp30, or even mid-20s
He's a type of hero that won't really do well unless he is 209; before that he is a meat stick
Ok
With this box, what would be the best 3 (or 5) PvP teams I could put together?
Thinking about both legends challenger tournament thingy for the three teams, as well as 5 teams for HoE
What do i choose and where do i put them?
Is that a picture of a tablet or phone lol
Daimon Awezizh Thoran ThatBardGuy Mishka
You need to roll more, positioning I'll let you figure out for now because this looks very early
Oh a tablet😭
As you can see on the lvl yes its very ewrly
Hey, im pretty new and stuck in chapter 10, can you help me with a team? Also im trying to get blue heroes to ledgendary and just put purple heroes in the crystal, am i doing that right?
yes, you're doing the leveling right
resonate: daimon, rowan, oden, thoran, fearel, silas, lyca
compwise you can run something like
Oden
Rowan
Daimon
Thoran
Fearel
or whatever with the resonated
How do I stop Scarlett from one shooting everyone?
Rng
I must have bad luck
What formation should I make
Meow
I request help because stupid assassin kills my oden and fearel fast as hell
Thanks for helping out! 🙂
I should add Solise I assume? Not sure who to swap. Also curious if I should change up anything else
Oh god this one is a nightmare someone help
What equipment do you recommend?
=earlygame
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
Where I’m at right now good bad?
yes.
pretty stuck rn, any ideas?
Brutus and Daimon behind ?
