lineup-help

[hoary crater]

Btw in which cases is Tasi used? I get the rest but never really used Tasi

[steady scroll]

when happens that there is 1 protected enemy that wipes your team out so u wanna deal with guards and then go on him.

[hoary crater]

So utilising the banish?

[steady scroll]

banish and her ult but I was using her rarely. been more into Pippa, same start, rng ult but w/e. most likely does the job and unlike tassi doesn't take call but can use windbinder since its mage

[old token]

brutus lyca daimon pippa oden is a fun comp

i think if daimon can survive can do:

daimon lyca tasi pippa oden

[steady scroll]

[old token]

portal banish party with haste-supported opening

[steady rain]

No problem, glad it worked out 👍

[obsidian aurora]

Hello guys pls help

[hoary crater]

That's actually funny, just scroll up a bit and you get your answers.

[mortal ibex]

Hi, stuck in chapter 13. Got quite a decent champ pool - but kinda stuck. In the picture you can see current setup I’m running. Considering moving all my supports above 140 -> 141+ or should I instead get Daimon to Mythic and focus on him/her? This will however delay my supports significant to get past 140. Or should I try run Dual Carry? Any advice highly appreciated here 🙂

[limpid dove]

Hi, stuck on 15-32

[mortal ibex]

Are you in chapter 15 with above?

[limpid dove]

Hold up thats weird, somehow sent an old ss

[mortal ibex]

Haha xD

I was like, wtf am I doing wrong

[limpid dove]

Well if you have another l+ fodder you should just ascend daimon now

[hoary crater]

Any way to counter double Tasi?

[pale kettle]

Need help in this chapter

[pastel pebble]

show ur box

[pale kettle]

This box?

[hoary crater]

Any Ideas?

[wooden orchid]

my man really tryna push hard 👀

[hoary crater]

obv, keeping up the grind

[wooden orchid]

gimme your daimon rng

i havent pulled a daimon in so long

[hoary crater]

I'm always asking new positions I am stuck at. For example here is my question, what the best way to deal with Athalia is. With new knowledge I can just generally beat repeating stages with my knowledge .

[wooden orchid]

i like rowan for athalia idk if thats correct but it seems to work for the timebeing

[pastel pebble]

yup

put mishka on the crystal and do

Daimon
Mishka
oden
thoran
lyca/silas

[pale kettle]

I’ll try it out

Didn’t work

[broken escarp]

Help me

I need win

[pastel pebble]

try switching thoran and mishka

[pale kettle]

Still didn’t work. Tried multiple times

[pastel pebble]

giimme a sec

[hoary crater]

Any Idea here?

[pastel pebble]

Daimon
Mishka
rowan
thoran
oden

lmk if mishka dies really fast, if it deos switch with thoran and if he does lmk

[pastel pebble]

lemme see

show box

[hoary crater]

And E Brutus obv

[pastel pebble]

tank luck be rough let me think of sum

can you out grezhul on crystal?

[hoary crater]

I have 1 slot open, yes

[distant mango]

Is this right for thoran cheese, I can never get it to work

[hoary crater]

But how will he help, he def wont get his ult off, maybe his shield will help a bit. But the Tasi banish is a real issue combine with the Athalia. And even if I survive it I still have to deal with Nemora heal/charm

[pastel pebble]

i was thinking
daimon
brutus
rowan
grezhul
thoran

[pale kettle]

I tried both times so it might just be a skill issue from my team. Since it feels like I don’t do that much damage

[pastel pebble]

so you can be sure daimon gets his ult off

[hoary crater]

Was that for me? since Daimon can get his ult off anyways

just gets oneshot trough it by Athalia ult/cc stuff

[hoary crater]

ok I tried it, Grez just get 100 -> 0 in one attack

He has 150k hp and one crit does 240k damage

[pastel pebble]

keep trying different combinations, the problem is that ur tanks get outclassed u need to evolve grezhul or other guys

[pastel pebble]

this also works, no need to be evolved the ainz or the luc

[hoary crater]

He wont be 9f any time soon tho

[wheat phoenix]

Are you copying a clear?

Might not work since your deficit isn't high enough

[pale kettle]

Nvm it finally worked. Thanks for your help

[obsidian aurora]

Been stuck for 30h

[sweet trail]

Uh im lost and stuck in chap 12:16

[steady rain]

Try (no guarantees):
Daimon
-------Brutus (or wutus)
Rowan
-------Lyca (or Thoran)
Nara

[steady rain]

Your account is mismanaged. You may be better of restarting on the newest server.

Make sure you read the pins in #classic-questions and ask if you have any questions.

[short dune]

30-10 cheese; is this just a matter of thoran facing wrong direction lol, baden doesn’t like to die for some reason

[sweet trail]

Can you dumb down what you said so i can understand

[timber ingot]

following this one as well

but I think its because you got your heroes to legendary without the E+ copies

[short dune]

or is it just his weapon being too long for thoran (and thus would be best cheesed with 3f)

[short dune]

went to L without copies, rosa doesn’t really need M early on (should have left it for rowan, or scarlet if you’re playing lb only gameplay)

[sweet trail]

I already have 1 copy for scarlet, i just need 1 more

My biggest problem is idk how to make a line up for them

If i can get 1 other rosaline and scarlet, i can get L+ rosaline which ill use to get scarlet to mythic. Is that a good idea?

[short dune]

nvm it’s still his weapon being too long, got everyone on the same side for cheese, he still didn’t die

[short dune]

do not, rosa is good hero (just doesn’t need M instantly), do not use her as fodder

[sweet trail]

I use raine instead? 😃

Which should i get to legend first, estrilda or rowan

[tight bear]

Can Grezhul or Silas be used as a carry?

[steady scroll]

grezhul eventually becomes a carry but first u gotta have at least 303 i30

[tight bear]

Ok, not ready yet. I can wait, been able to advance a couple of floors taking advantage of the health and attack boost by using 4 graveborns

If it can carry me through 12-40 I can get the daimon copy and take him mythic and start chasing the weapon

[steady scroll]

he is overall rather squishy, thats why he need protection (put in backrow or front with Alna)

[dull flame]

What's this about suggesting to +30 him, 3f him, e30 him, but not 9f? Grez literally has 90% of his useage from his 9f, and it's the one thing you don't recommend? Or am I reading the notation wrong

[steady scroll]

well I have him on e30 i19 3f and if he doesn't die then does great job, his minions distract enemies which gives space to my carry

so I assume when he reaches i30 becomes a monster, not mentioning 9f
i20 gives him sustain and i30 even more dmg

[dull flame]

Then you're using him wrong, min investment should be +20 with 9f. The 9f allows him to deal massive damage in bossing and CR (which you probably don't have unlocked yet). The sig +30 isn't actually that needed, the BIG thing is his 9f. With it he becomes super versatile, being able to be used in campaign(and I mean endgame campaign, not some pre chap 33 stuff), slotting into all sorts of teams, like alna grez, portal party (less used but still works), occasional 5 pull sets etc. @tight bear

[steady scroll]

u quote guides nice, now put some understanding and u can go. i said that he needs at least 303, obviously he needs 9f and best if have alna 9f alongside but who can afford it in the beginning of his adventure ? I don't play this game for competing but fun so If I see him doing work I don't care if he is BiS or not, as you noticed chap 33 isn't the "late game" where he needs to be maxed. I found grez satisfying so I'm using him a lot, lacking 8 sigils to i20 (don't spend money on game so yeah, i gotta wait)

Besides you didn't give any advice to that guy (if you know better then why wouldn't you ?) instead u point on not important details and rather come here to flex over yourself than help anyone. I'm not claiming im a good player just telling what helped me to people who struggle with lower stages.

[dull flame]

I've never spent a cent on this game either, nice to meet a fellow f2p.
First off, I'm not quoting a guide lol, this is common knowledge to literally everyone.
Secondly, by stating that grez needs min 303, and not mentioning the 9f, you are giving bad information. Grez doesn't need the +30, there are tons of other heroes that benefit much more from it. His 9f on the contrary is one of the best in the game, especially for f2p since he's not a Cele or hypo. By not mentioning the 9f, you're hurting the players progression, since he might think the 9f isn't important and will opt to get it later.
3rd, did you need see me ping the person you were helping with in my message above? I merely did a correction of your inaccurate advice, that's it. I attached a photo of my grez to show that I have experience using him. That's all. You really think I don't help people? Go search my name on this discord, I've gotten busy over the years, but I used to be really active in this channel. I also have my own discord dedicated to afk arena, over 1000 members and I help people there every day.
But hey, I don't like arguing with strangers over the internet. You made an inaccurate piece of advice, I made a correction.

[noble socket]

Well, hello, I can help point you in the direction that you seem to be lacking.

Grez does not need his Si30, he works perfectly with si20, but he does need his 9 furniture to get usability in basically every mode.

[timber ingot]

do we have any updated list of heroes classified as carry?

[timber plover]

any lineup recommend?

[tulip dagger]

Not exactly but =ascension101 has general priorities if that helps

[cloud nexus]

Priorities for Hero Ascension

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360

[tulip dagger]

Read =earlygame
Dont make any more L heroes except fodders as its a waste
Have you set your wishlist properly?
Could run thoran/skreg
AwSolise/nevanthi/belinda for now
Kick wu and respen out of crystal, work on fodders, get rc level past 100

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[toxic island]

my scarlet seemingly does no damage before she dies

[tulip dagger]

Have you tried not frontlining her?
Tbh no idea what eluard does for you
Would put scar in his spot and put est front

[toxic island]

est dies, lucius/belinda does nothinf

[tulip dagger]

Could have told you that about lucius and bel lmao

Rowan kinda overinvestes, does he have T1/2 gear?

He can go front to tank then

[toxic island]

all T4

[tulip dagger]

Bruh

Rowan simp?

Who does fawkes banish?

[toxic island]

fereal b4 he dies

yo nvm i got it
lucius backline did something

[tulip dagger]

Try rowan/rosa
Scarlet/belinda/ceci

[toxic island]

i thought rowan was important v

[tulip dagger]

Oh okay

[tulip dagger]

Lmao yeah to +30, any furn and gear past T2/3 is overkill

[toxic island]

damn
isn’t belinda dogshit

[tulip dagger]

Kinda yeah

[celest wing]

Pretty much yeah

[tulip dagger]

Might buff scarlet though

You dont really have alternatives

[toxic island]

ah yes she was my first 5 star by a long shot, was she ever used say maybe a few years ago?

i remember her being not bad before daimon came out

[tulip dagger]

Still has tower uses, multis

Otherwise no

Shemira was good at some point too

[toxic island]

yeah i def remember that, i have her at 5* too

no lucy no alna just 5* belinda and shem

[tulip dagger]

Lmao yeah those days are long gone

[toxic island]

i just beat chapter 36 with this, any advice on who to build next/comp advice?

i’m getting merlin and joan of ark after mulan and i’m currently gazing for lucy

[tulip dagger]

Charm comp, raku+30 for any cc team
Build alna for proper alna gbs team
3f chicken for 5 pull

=endgamecomps

[cloud nexus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/r8nr68/endgame_pve_formations_visual_guides_redorb/

[toxic island]

what’s chicken

[tulip dagger]

Skriath

3f pulls the pos 3 and 5 enemies to the mid position enabling eiromm pull to get all 5 enemies

Groups em up for luc to go ham on them with aoe dmg or raku with his +30 effect, hp% dmg on cc'd targets

[royal flame]

Can someone help me with this

[tulip dagger]

Which stage is that?

There is a reddit guide that helps a lot

Comments have many alternative solutions

[royal flame]

Stage 18

[royal flame]

Can u give me a link?

[tulip dagger]

Google crimson snow afk arena lol

Maybe add reddit, probably first link anyway

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1029jo2/crimson_snow_quick_guide/

[nimble condor]

i’m stuck on 13-39

[tulip dagger]

Got nara hidden somewhere down there?

Give daimon si+20
Hook isabella with nara

[wooden orchid]

steve, its been a while 👀

[tulip dagger]

Try oden instead of swolise to steal isa energy otherwise

[tulip dagger]

Indeed haha
All good on your side?

[wooden orchid]

recommend me a team, im stuck on ch 22 now, i think i was on 12 when we last spoke

[tulip dagger]

They grow up so fast

Show enemies

[tulip dagger]

Daimon surviving front? Or dying before ult by now?

Ogi is annoying would swap frontlines for starters, his throw ccs multiple units

[wooden orchid]

one sec

[tulip dagger]

Nara out for daimon, thoran front and swap front positions so thoran can actually fear/reveive in enemy range not after being thrown in your own backline

[tulip dagger]

Maybe swap daimon and oden too then so he doesnt get cc'd

[wooden orchid]

slowed it down to make it easier to see

so you are saying
daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Oden

[tulip dagger]

Yep try that 🙂

Judging from the video swapping frontlines might also be viable if he doesnt get thrown by ogi, enemies pretty crammed up, good for fear

[wooden orchid]

got it first try, just when i think im beginning to understand who to use where it seems i do not

excited for tomorrow got 130 faction scrolls to use, hopefully i can take another gb up to ascended

[tulip dagger]

Haha yeah can be pretty hard sometimes and pure rng too

[wooden orchid]

believe me the ammount of times ive retried stages just for rng to kick in is wonderful lmao

[loud galleon]

This is where im up to at the moment in campaign and I’ve hit a wall… kinda messed up upgrading these to L without available fodder, realise that now, but any other advice would be appreciated?

[nimble condor]

Nope

[loud galleon]

Any advice on which heroes to put in resonating crystal would be awesome too, just sort of throwing heroes in there

[wooden orchid]

first of all stop making L heros if you can't take them to L+

you aren't very far and your wish list looks wrong based on what's in your box i'd honestly recommend starting over with the beginner guide pinned in questions and you'll pass your current account really fast

[loud galleon]

Used a guide for what to put in my wishlist, heres the ones i have set up at the moment.

I’ll be honest i know i messed up with upgrading the wrong heroes to L first, gonna stop doing that as you suggest… 😓 I did follow the beginner guide for the most part i think, but I’d rather not restart its taken a few weeks to get where I am now as I dont have that much time to play

[elfin rose]

Hey guys, I just came to chapter 31 and now need to have 2 lineups, which 2 lineups should I choose with my current characters

[wooden orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958088500773797950/999239639011446794/213.png
I would follow this honestly it'll take you a few days to get back to where you are and that's me talking from personal experience

[loud galleon]

Had another look at my wishlist and yeah you’re right it was wrong, ive re-set it up how it should be… if its really the best option at this point i will maybe look at restarting…

[long storm]

Graphic is old these are the changes to be made

[wooden orchid]

okay that is interesting, should i make these changes to my own now, on ch 22 now lol

[wooden orchid]

i already have 4 copies of estrilda, only 1 tidus, 3 copies of lyca still worth to switch for palmer numi and nevan?
you are saying after exchange to buy JOA before arthur?

[covert sigil]

yup, but preferrably u can buy both joa and arthur every month.

[loud galleon]

Ok, thanks ill take that into account, and your advice, and restart

[covert sigil]

u dont need to restart tho? u can use this but also hope u'll get more daimin. Brutus and thoran can stay e+, they can work e+ for a long time

[tulip dagger]

Your e daimon could work for now, also overall good pulls too so defo keep playing with the corrected WL 🙂

[loud flame]

Hei guys
Who should I bring first to e60? Every hero is already 1*

Nevanthie, Palmer, Oden, Silas, A-Thane, A-Belinda

[tulip dagger]

Got chicken 3f ready once you hit A? Future 5p luc then
You got some options, i would go for raku +30 and form a cc team around him
Try this once he hit +30
T1
Brutus/thoran
Daimon/rowan/fera

T2
Mishka/lyca
Raku/silas/oden

[royal stag]

AwThane

[loud flame]

but to play him rigth i need zolrath and zaphrael ?

[royal stag]

For pvp both are good with AwThane

[loud flame]

those are my actually pvp teams. where would he fit in ?

[pale kettle]

so um I've been thinking lately on what heroes to build and here is what i currently have on my new fresh acc. pls help me build the right team thnx in advance

[wooden orchid]

Okay brilliant I wasn't aware and will make the relevant changes

[loud galleon]

Ascended mirael, and swapped my current party to Thoran, Hogan, Oden, Mirael, and 5th slot is currently Palmer until i get another ascended fodder hero to use… had to shuffle around my resonating crystal a bit, i’ve heard its a good idea to put ascended heroes in it rather than fodder ones?

Unfortunately thinkingg of benching Daimon until I can get him to L+ as mirael now has a higher level cap

[spare jackal]

Is this good? Guildmate got like 23 Mil with his ascended versions
Well his formation has a Shamira which i don'T have yet

[loud galleon]

Took a gamble and did a wilder 10 pull, got enough to ascend Arden, swapped out palmer for him, as looking to do secrets of the forest at some point soon, pushed past 10-16 finally

[tulip dagger]

Daimon/wu front for now ig
Lyca/palmer/mishka back
Keep summoning, level fodders
=Earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

Thoran/mishka
Daimon/rowan/oden
Rowan +30 asap

[tulip dagger]

Pictures please, nobody can follow like that

[loud galleon]

Sorry, was going on from my previous messages 😅

[tulip dagger]

Show your entire box
Check guides in #classic-questions and follow =earlygame
Dont ever touch shemira, she sucks real bad

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

Just post the new pics lol way easier

[loud galleon]

Fair enough here’s my new box

[tulip dagger]

Good good
General advice or specific teambuild?

[loud galleon]

I wanna get Silvina to L next, for more fodder to eventually ascend daimon

[tulip dagger]

I would use Awakened belinda trial for big guild hunt dmg
Awlinda/daimon
Raine/rowan/silas

[loud galleon]

As well as max out mirael and arden

[tulip dagger]

If you arent close to hero cap keep the R+ heroes imo, wait until you got 4 then you can guarantee a base for a future E+ hero, same from E+ to L+
Saves box space as you dont have single E copies hoping for more

[loud galleon]

Yeah? Fair enough thats useful

[tulip dagger]

Get a vedan now, E+
Then you can make your silv to L+

Well vedan when possible but you got the R+ ready

Sorry wrong box...

[tulip dagger]

You should get the vedan E next and make silvina L+

[tulip dagger]

Dont take fodder heroes to L without at least another E copy to take em further imo

[loud galleon]

How much would you recommend using diamonds to up the hero cap?

Vedan, ok noted thanks

[spare jackal]

Jesus Thanks for that lienup

[tulip dagger]

Doesnt cost too much but wouldt use it if you can ma age your box

[loud galleon]

Ah for owlamancer, not me haha

[tulip dagger]

Ye you dont have a vedan ready haha sorry mixed up your boxes

But you got the general idea 🙂

[loud galleon]

Yeah i get you

Any advice for who to put in the crystal, as a rule of thumb?

[pale kettle]

Need help in this chapter

[tulip dagger]

Raku tidus can go
Ferael has great cc
Daimon carries
Nara for isabella stages or other annoying units
Brutus for a great meatshield
Eironn has uses too
Lyca lateeon for her haste buff
Rowan once you get him, great support
Silas good healer

[loud galleon]

Awesome, thanks

[spare jackal]

Just got Eiron and Gwyneth, should i still keep this formation for future Guild boss fights?

[tulip dagger]

You will have to swap belinda s the trial will end soon
Those two dont change the lineup
Come back with more new heroes 🙂

[glad quail]

Need like 40 red chest for rowan, ty worked

[sweet trail]

How do i get pass 13:39 when my carry is a intllegance base hero

[steady scroll]

has anyone got lineup for Crimson Snow event ? Stage 18, f2p without merlin or joan ;P

[tulip dagger]

Try this @steady scroll

[tulip dagger]

Show your box and enemy stage i cant mindread any more today

[steady scroll]

I've seen that already from mentioned heroes i have only brutus, kalene, mehira and anasta xd
thats why I put last hope in that discord

[tulip dagger]

Check the comments below

Tons of people with other solutioms because they dont have the mentioned heroes

[steady scroll]

also did lack of a ezizh ;x
is there any sub for him by a chance ?

[tulip dagger]

No idea sorry

He is quite unique and you have to fulfill those requirements somehow..

[steady scroll]

ikr ;x thanks anyway

[pale kettle]

Can anyone help me beat this lvl

[tulip dagger]

Oden top, rowan mid, daimon bot backline

Maybe swap front positions but give it a try

[sweet trail]

@tulip dagger

[tulip dagger]

Guess somebody already told you to stop making useless L heroes like oden?

[tulip dagger]

Fodders out of rc, they are only blocking spaces
Ascend fodders and dont ascend anybody else
Put thoran, ferael into crystal

[pale kettle]

Tried it out didn’t work

[tulip dagger]

Got nara somewhere down there?
Use her to pull isabella
And fix your wishlist! Not a single daimon?

[tulip dagger]

Try more, rng can be hard

[pale kettle]

I see

[tulip dagger]

Also try running
Thoran/brutus
Rosa/nevanthi/scarlet

In your formation estrilada and mirael both hit you carry scarlet

[sweet trail]

So like this?

[spare jackal]

Currently on chapter 10, what's a decent all-round lineup ?

[tulip dagger]

Try it..do you have nara? Isabella will most likely still be a problem

[tulip dagger]

Daimon/thoran
Ferael/rowan/lyca

[sweet trail]

TYYYYY it worked, i do have nara

[tulip dagger]

If it wouldnt have worked use her to pull isa
But hey it worked!

[sweet trail]

Do you think i should keep summining for lb or different fraction?

[royal stag]

Team 3
Sorry for my late reply, no high speed internet

[dense swift]

Who is Oden throwing and where?

[oblique nexus]

I've got an another spot in the crystal open who do I put in it to beat this stage

Would Tasi or Lyca work?

[pale kettle]

thnx

[dense swift]

try removing Thoran and replacing with Brutus, maybe swap Fearel out for Oden if Fearel is not casting his abilities

[oblique nexus]

ight

[lavish hinge]

need help with 38-32

[misty cypress]

What hero’s do you have?

[lavish hinge]

will post box now

[pale kettle]

Need help with 11 35

[dense swift]

who is oden targeting and where is he dropping them?

[pale kettle]

Oh that’s what you meant.

[pale kettle]

Targeting horse lady and to thoran

[dense swift]

He won't drop them on your units, check again

[pale kettle]

Like in front of it

The other horse looking dude

[dense swift]

So oden will always drop units on top of the weakest enemy unit, so he's dropping them on Golus?

Daimon

Rowan
Oden
Thoran
Lyca

try that

[pale kettle]

It feels like I’m not doing enough dmg

[dense swift]

Dmg shouldnt be an issue, you're just buying time for daimon to survive. that being said, 141 on daimon would be huge so you may just be gated at this time by deficit

[pale kettle]

Would there be any other way it would be possible or would I have to restart

[dense swift]

you don't need to restart, just afk for a while and you can push levels on your fodder to 121 which will help

other than that, save up your factionals and try to push for a Daimon M which would also help immensely

[pale kettle]

Thanks so much for you help

[dense swift]

it's also not entirely impossible that you can push this stage too, you may need to keep playing around with positions... keep thoran and rowan frontline, you can also try subbing Lyca for Mishka to further tank Estrilda after she finishes Thoran to buy Thoran time to revive

important thing is just that Oden keeps Estrilda off Daimon so he can deal with Mirael

[pale kettle]

I see I’ll try that out

[ornate cloak]

Line up rec for chap 12? Currently running pippa diamon oden grezhul and daimon since I had a lot of lack luster supports last time I was in here

[dense swift]

still rather iffy I'm afraid, but since you have Nara, you should incorporte her into your lineup by lining her opposite of the highest DPS enemy on their team.

probably run daimon, oden, thoran, grezhul, nara/eironn. your frontline can be thoran and grezhul for now

[ornate cloak]

Alright thanks, I had a rough start since I joined here after I already wasted a lot of recourses and fodder but never ended up getting good supports through my summons lol. Just recently picked up thoren and numisu after loads of summons so things have been looking better

[dense swift]

lyca and rowan would be a huge help to your team

[ornate cloak]

Yeah just been rlly unlucky with that, btw I can make Nara L and eirron L+ (already have fodder set aside for my 160’s but don’t have enough recourses to lvl chars atm so haven’t invested them) should I do it? Or save for other characters like Rowan

[dense swift]

no stop making random Ls, you will set yoursel back further when you can't ascend the units you want to ascend

if a unit cannot make it to M, you generally do not want to ascend them because the boost from L and L+ is very minor in comparison to M, which opens up the signature item

eironn and nara especially don't need investment right now and they're very low in prio, eironn's job is to do that pull thing then die, nara's job is to cc one thing as long as she can and she doesn't need survivability or dmg to do that

[ornate cloak]

Alright thanks

[austere star]

Same could i get a good lineup for pve i'm stuck at 12 27 rn
Thank you guys!

[dense swift]

=earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[dense swift]

read the guide, reset chars who are not daimon, stop making Legnedaries, level your fodders, resonate who you're gonna use

daimon, oden, rowan, brutus, lyca, eironn, thoran will all come in handy

unfortunately given the sheer number of legendaries you made, you'll probably get gated soon and be stuck for a little while

[austere star]

ohhh ok i see

thanks! i'll be stuck for a bit ahah

[tight bear]

So I can't get my carry above 160 until I level up 4 other heros to 141? Is that correct?

[dense swift]

if the game says it, yes - I dont recall exactly but I remember there is a criteria like that

[tight bear]

Man that sucks. That's a ton of dust

[vivid seal]

the selection for graveborn is ok?

[tulip dagger]

Iirc you can have a 40 lvl diff

Is your carry L+? Then he is lvl capped by ascension

[tulip dagger]

Looks fine

[vivid seal]

is nara better than toran?

[tulip dagger]

Nope you only need one copy of her

[vivid seal]

why

[tulip dagger]

Thoran doesnt need ascension until way later in cheese

[tulip dagger]

Ascending doesnt improve her performance, she is there to hook an annoying hero and lock it down

[vivid seal]

noo, i mean, sup with nara and only 1?

[tulip dagger]

Doesnt take more than an E copy

[vivid seal]

i can get one nara by chest if it s worth the red chest, but don t have one more to get her to elite +

[tulip dagger]

You only need one at E
If you dont have her yet get her from the chest

[vivid seal]

and should i put her in tasi s place?

[tulip dagger]

Depends on your enemies but thats an option yeah

Dont make any more L/L+ heroes btw, only fodders
=Earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[vivid seal]

haven t got alot of fodders tbh

[tulip dagger]

You got even less good heroes

[vivid seal]

i was unlucky and i was lucky to have copies of those champs

[tulip dagger]

In that ss alone i see 3 e+ mirael

One more lb and you have an L+ mirael

[vivid seal]

yeah but shall i waste hogan?

[tulip dagger]

Every L hero is two wasted e+ fodders

Its not waste its foddering

[vivid seal]

my problem is idk which fodders to waste

[tulip dagger]

Sure if you got 5 L+ heroes to level

[tulip dagger]

Show entire box

[vivid seal]

sec

[tulip dagger]

L+ mirael right away

Others need more copies

[vivid seal]

and btw i can get one daimon by a red chest that i got shall i do that?

[tulip dagger]

Nope doesnt help

[dense swift]

no, save until you have 7 daimons if anything

[tulip dagger]

Wait for another hero with 7/8 copies then you can use it

[vivid seal]

i can get any hero by that chest i think u know which one i m talking about

[dense swift]

you just need a L+ graveborn to get mythic daimon, dont need anything else

[tulip dagger]

Yeah

[vivid seal]

ah i see

[dense swift]

silvia/niru/whatever

[vivid seal]

oh i see thank u guys alot of tips rn i m only eyes haha

[dense swift]

this is exactly why the guide tells people to not make random Legendaries because it sets you back so far from getting a mythic hero

[tulip dagger]

Silv probably, one e+ and one e copy already

[vivid seal]

so just lvlup fodders that you have the most copies

[tulip dagger]

So far its only been two E+ wilders, well no L+ arden soon then..

[vivid seal]

but don t waste main heroes

[tulip dagger]

Indeed

[vivid seal]

makes sense

[dense swift]

if you're stuck in campaign rn just play your daily labyrinth, arena, push tower, events, etc and collect scrolls/gems to roll for heroes until you get L+ of each faction

[tulip dagger]

Well keep levelling daimon and eironn as they are L+ already but try to get 3 more L+ fodders

[dense swift]

and dont use your 4-skill heroes for ascension, only 3-skill such as hogan/ogi/mirael/silvia/etc

[vivid seal]

but for a reason solise carries my entire team. She is awakened she deletes everyone lol

this is why i leveled her up to 120

[tulip dagger]

Yup she is pretty good but falls off due to lvl cap/lack of ascension in your case soon

[vivid seal]

true, ik can t be this lucky to get one more lol

[dense swift]

asolise is good, you can take her to 140 and she will stay on your team for a while - you need 3 more copies to ascend her btw

[tulip dagger]

Can give her 140 for now as carry and reset once fodders pass her level

You wont ascend any Aw hero anytime soon though

[vivid seal]

shit that s gonna take awhile xd yeah ik indeed they re pain to get

[tulip dagger]

Wait for 500 cards before ascending one

So yeah long time

[vivid seal]

wdym 500 cards

[tulip dagger]

Special temple of time cards to get awakened heroes

[dense swift]

500 temple of time cards

[tulip dagger]

The drop from normal summs with a like 0.1% chance?

[vivid seal]

idk i m at 10-20 atm i guess that chapter is far away from me

[dense swift]

you'll unlock it in a week or something

well assuming you get some more daimons lol

[vivid seal]

hopefully

[thorn dune]

Returning player after 2-3ish years. (I realise awakening daimon wasn’t smart). Stuck on 22-26. Any help would be appreciated

[tulip dagger]

M daimon is good enough for starters lol

[vivid seal]

pfhaha yeah

[dense swift]

may want to restart since it's been so long and your investment is very deep into shemira who is pp now

[vivid seal]

btw is isabella strong? i see when she pops her ult she insta my heroes lol

[tulip dagger]

Restart if you dont mind doing it all again.. you wont be able to compete in the pvp events going on rn and thats a lot of free rewards from there you would miss out on.. and your A heroes are pretty, well, outdated

[dense swift]

anything on the enemy side of pve looks strong af dont get baited

[vivid seal]

oh i see haha

[dense swift]

your estrilda will be sad cheems and enemy estrilda is chad muscle doge

[tulip dagger]

Yesnt, not bad but dont build her yourself early on

[vivid seal]

YEAH EXACTLY lol their estrilda is too op man

[tulip dagger]

[vivid seal]

pfhaha

[thorn dune]

Sad times

[tulip dagger]

Yep sorry
But you can get there in about a month again, chapter wise, easily

Tons of codes to be redeemed for a smooth new account on the latest server

[dense swift]

or like 2 weeks if you get enough daimons although you won't have the shinies

[tight bear]

Mythic and I'm stuck at 160

That might be the max then

[tulip dagger]

Thats weird then, should.be able to go to 180 of your other 4 are 140

M is 180 max

Show box

[vivid seal]

bruh u must levelup the other heroes

[tulip dagger]

Interesting

[vivid seal]

if u get them to 140 u can to 180

[tight bear]

If I can stop at 140 it's good, if I have to move them to 141 it's sucks

[vivid seal]

nah u need them 140 not 141

[tulip dagger]

It literally says must be above 140

Which is weird because usually it should work

[vivid seal]

nope it works to 140 i have a higher acc too. Well not higher but same and i got a belinda to 180 while others 140

[tight bear]

Cool, I almost have the last one to 140 and I'm stuck again. And I really don't want to have to wait for like 16k dust

[dense swift]

lowkey kinda have to wait for dust sometimes, huge gate lol

[vivid seal]

the reason i started again was that i invested too much in lucius and belinda lol

[tulip dagger]

Take the last one to 140?

So you dont have the 4 others at 140?

[tulip dagger]

Dont upgrade gear btw
Only once its mythic with faction bonus

Before its a waste of gold

[tight bear]

I have 4 at 140 and one at 131, I just was hoping I didn't have to wait like two weeks before moving up again in campaign

[tulip dagger]

Uh why are you levelling 6 heroes?

[tight bear]

Well one at 160, 3 at 140 and one at 131

[tulip dagger]

You got daimon at 160 + 4 fodders at 140 is enough

Ah

Well get the last one to 140 and then get daimon to 180

[tight bear]

I've been upgrading the legend gear, so I will stop this then

[tulip dagger]

Yep

[tight bear]

Where can I get more of the tokens to level up diamons item?

[tulip dagger]

Afk, event rewards, shop

Not sure when each of those unlocks
You can check the map for chapter rewards

[dense swift]

also by rolling in the tavern

[tight bear]

Cool, thank you

[tulip dagger]

O true, tavern checkpoints

[tight bear]

Cool I need to check that

[vivid seal]

guys what do u get from these always?

[dense swift]

save for mulan

[vivid seal]

rly? is she this worth?

idk if i can get her tho

[dense swift]

you still have a good amount of time

[vivid seal]

oh i see

[rose tundra]

Can i get some help with a team for 39-60 pls?

.

[woeful holly]

Help pls i cant make good team

[dense swift]

Is that ainz....

You also have way too many legendary, read the pins in #classic-questions

=earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[dense swift]

Fearel

awbrutus
Daimon
Rowan
Lyca

[woeful holly]

Bro i cant read to much eng and ı cant find guides for my lang i try only but thank you for help appreciate

[dense swift]

Easy summary then:

Ascend Mirael or Hogan, Golus, Arden, Silvia or Niru

Do not ascend any other hero unless you have 8 Elite of that hero.

Daimon is your carry, level him the most. Level 4 of the heroes I mentioned above behind him.

Put the other heroes you use in Resonance crystal such as Lyca, Rowan, etc.

Do not use Ainz.

[vivid seal]

i just got golus to l+

atm i have golus and mirael l+

[pale kettle]

Lyca, Thoran
Oden, ASolise, Daimon (behind Thoran)

[nimble condor]

thx just tried it and it worked

[pale kettle]

Welcome 🙂

[spare jackal]

Which ones should i do for Wrizz and Soren?

[covert sigil]

merch a scarlet from someone strong then use supports together with her

[spare jackal]

for which one?

[covert sigil]

huh? u use scarlet for both wrizz and soren

[spare jackal]

Yeah but due to soren's Frighten don't you need a different setup?

[covert sigil]

u r still early and u cant sustain until end of round so just focus on getting the most you can. Merching a scarlet is already the best u can do

[spare jackal]

alright

This then?

[covert sigil]

yup but u should have merched someone who has si30+ a red or white star on their scarlet

[spare jackal]

was the highest ic ould

[covert sigil]

find a better guild, it helps a lot.

[spare jackal]

Well problem with that is that I always sign up and wait for days, this one at least had a Join

[steady rain]

There are lots of open guilds. My suggestion is to try and fill up your friends list. Put a couple "add me" emojis in the global chat and hope some person adds you. A couple days of that and you should have plenty of scarlet's to borrow!

[spare jackal]

I wish They would add a filter in the guild finder, which lets you see Which guilds are "Open"

[covert sigil]

u can just search in game, there are lots of max level guilds that are open. I also joined one and currently sticking to it still.

[steady rain]

There are people always inviting for guilds in chat. And just search up random names, you'll eventually find one lol

[short dune]

30-11, how do I convince nemora to not heal everyone to full? daimon damage just not cutting it to kill literally anyone (thoran cheese didn’t work, difficult grouping and insufficient enemy burst damage)

[covert sigil]

ur thoran 203?

[short dune]

thoran 100

could just be rng issue tbh

[covert sigil]

how about the stars of the call thing the one that dorps in peaks of time?

[short dune]

call only 3*, so no friendly extra energy battery

but energy probably isn’t the big problem here; he just doesn’t eat enough damage to reflect is the problem, so non-thoran clear probably the way to go

[short dune]

that’s something I tried before, my daimon got squished (which is why I had brutus hold top), but maybe I just haven’t tried enough lol. let’s see if the advanced complain strat works

[old token]

the furn on oden might be the win condition

its been awhile since this clear but i think both daimon and oden had at least t2 5* or whatever max tier in chp30; eye on oden call on daimon

[short dune]

yeah could be oden furn issue; daimon has full set of maxed T2, oden doesn’t but his gear should matter less (tends to eat lyca arrow and perish, which probably makes the team lose lol)

[old token]

Oden's gear also matters I think; his T2 gives haste and deceptively high dodge

[covert sigil]

can u help me 30-10 with thoran cheese?

[short dune]

he’s one off from 3f lol, but yeah I’ll go gear him when the gear drops

[short dune]

it’s very jank, baden refused to die a few times probably because of spear length

also flora was used to reposition tasi, you might get away with using dreary ball though (and the ending was sketch lol)

[covert sigil]

thank you, problem is im still si28 rowan >.>

[covert sigil]

also what artifact did u use for thoran?

[short dune]

3* call

[covert sigil]

thanks. still 2* call, :3. I will try if i can somehow work with what i have

[short dune]

also don’t pick flora from the event chest specifically for cheese, probably not worth it

[covert sigil]

first try worked but didn't killed idk i think baden and tasi, now i cant get even close ;-;

just need a lil bit more of energy sometimes

[short dune]

can I see lineup? thoran vs tasi can feel really rng btw (relies on other damage source to prevent teleport, which is really painful with dreary ball instead of flora sprinkles)

also try messing around with thoran gear; more gear (esp chest) might let him live longer, but I think he also reflects less damage

[covert sigil]

maybe just gotta wait 3* call or rowan si30

[short dune]

rowan SI +30 should let you win (think the energy gain from call already increased at 2*)

[covert sigil]

yah, it worked first time though, quiet rng without rowan+3-

my max dmg is 20-25m at least only 1 dies lol

[short dune]

or just hope for lucky energy gain on hit; everything can count for cheesing (maybe try making rowan naked or give him more gear, so thoran gets focused a bit faster or slower, see what happens)

[covert sigil]

it's lyca that gets banished. And if i strip her, i wont get enough energy

baden,tasi, lyca are btches wont die

[short dune]

I think naked lyca should do the trick anyway (haste buff should drop on entry)

need to force thoran to be banished, but without rowan +30, thoran might not have enough energy to ult instantly out of banish

[covert sigil]

yup, purely rng

[short dune]

does thoran ult after revive? or is it before?

if he ults after revive, on some stages where everyone is clumped, I try manual ult to delay it as much as possible (so thoran eats more attacks). Doesn’t work with lyca so far away though, he will certainly die

[covert sigil]

it actually works, just need to kill baden and lyca

[short dune]

baden sometimes refuses to die for some reason, gl (also hopefully you get enough red chests soon)

[covert sigil]

yah hopefully :3, anyw i dont mind if im stucked or not tho, just want to collect heroes and make them ascended

[covert sigil]

IMAGINE TRYING MY BEST TO THORAN AND IN ONE TRY OF MY MAIN LINEUP I WIN IT 😠

[short dune]

lol gg (thoran is for people who built roster incorrectly)

dw you will have many more chances to thoran cheese in the future

[short dune]

so true indeed

[unreal jungle]

Can I start building a good team?

[short dune]

team to clear things depends on enemy lineup or gameplay mode (though please stop making people L without the copies to go further)

[rain pike]

👀

Use black pet to trigger tasi's ability

[north cape]

stuck in this stage for a while now, need some assistence

[covert sigil]

i already won

[rain pike]

Wokelene -> Brutus

[rain pike]

oh nice

[covert sigil]

get atelene out, front daimon on estrilda, put oden middle or nara, or eironn or pippa

[short dune]

I tried this so many times, but baden refused to die every time (eventually unwisely grabbed flora and cheesed that way). can someone tell me why he doesn’t die sometimes

[north cape]

oh is talene really that bad?

[rain pike]

She drops off so quick in later chapter because she is L only

[short dune]

your daimon needs physical protection from the enemies, which awakened talene cannot give you (brutus can attract their attention long enough for daimon to start snowball)

[rain pike]

Idk but iirc i need their eironn to ult in order to kill ulmus and baden

[north cape]

my brutus is L only would that matter or is his passive skill strong enough already

[rain pike]

it doesnt matter
His passive gives him immunity

[north cape]

i put awakened brutus in my temple of time. in case i get him i imagine i should replace him with normal brutus then

[north cape]

It worked! beat the stage with brutus :D thanks

[sly thunder]

NO
they have different abilities, and ngl but normal brutus is used a lot in campaign even at Elite due to his immunity from his passive

also check out =tot

[cloud nexus]

Temple of Time Priorities

#1015658140307566613 message

[north cape]

huh, whats the benefit of holding onto the cards before pulling

[sly thunder]

you want an awakened hero to reach Ascended
We dont know about the future there will be a better awk heroes released , so holding ~500 cards is the safe way

[north cape]

aah that makes sense. idk if im gonna focus on the priority list tho. feels like awakened heroes are kinda whale territory so i think id rather just hold 500 cards and pull for thane then because i like him the most.

[sly thunder]

Lots of people regret pulling for awtalene in the past because she drops off so quickly
Atm the best awk is awsolise

[north cape]

i see i see. i got awtalene from normal pulls tho, same as my belinda. so no losses there luckily

[sly thunder]

yes, lucky for you

[ornate cloak]

Stuck on chap 13 any suggestions? Using first 5 minus golus

[north cape]

also one last question, ive seen online a lot of people saying thoran is really good, and a lot of others saying he is one of the worst. ive been contemplating cutting him for a while but id like a definitive view on whether to keep him or not

[dense swift]

good for the thoran cheese, otherwise kinda bad, you dont run cheese till late ch 20s so it depends where you are in campaign

[short dune]

early on before M, you can sometimes use him for a delayed spook (extra cc late into a fight), but he really only works with thoran cheese

[ornate cloak]

Just got lyca as well

[hoary crater]

Any Idea, how to deal with this mess

[covert sigil]

do u have nara to pull?

[hoary crater]

Yes

[covert sigil]

try chaning silas and put nara? or pippa middle

[hoary crater]

Why do I want to pull the mage tho?

The Tasi banish + the shitload of damage is the main issue

[tulip dagger]

Deficits starting to get too high for frontline daimon ig

I'd try
Brutus/thoran
Daimon/rowan/fera or lyca

Rowan +30 when?

100 deficits is killing your supports too fast ig

[hoary crater]

It did work with
Rowan
Daimon
Fereal
Thoran
Brutus

The tanks stalled them long enough and I got fereal SI 20

[hoary crater]

Long time. He is 24 atm and I took every red chest I could so far

[hoary crater]

They do basically die onehit but the utility is often enough. Sometimes it's a few too many retries

[hoary crater]

I actually never use frontline Daimon, but for this stage nothing else worked

[rose tundra]

👀

[wooden orchid]

Any advice for this

@hoary crater

I feel like I should be where you are but in struggling with better levels and si

[hoary crater]

Remove daimon, then the assasin targets Brutus. Ideally replace him with Eironn for a 4 man pull

Brutus should be your character with the lowest defense. If he isn't, remove some gear

[hoary crater]

Do you still have the chest where you can choose Nara?

[nimble condor]

i got this one

[hoary crater]

Who does Oden portal here?

If you can Portal Grez and daimon targets Isa you can manage it.

[dense swift]

pain in the ass stage without Nara, check who Oden is portaling and position Daimon in the furthest position from them. Ideally he portals Estridal onto Grez.

Daimon

Brutus
Oden
Rowan
Asolise/Lyca/Thoran

[wooden orchid]

Swap daimon for an eironn really? My eiron is only E+ vs ascended si 20

[hoary crater]

Whoops I mean Rowan xD

Rowan out because the assasin first targets backlinr mages

[wooden orchid]

Okay that makes morw sense 🤣

[hoary crater]

Then the one with the lowest attack and with no mage he targets Brutus which is perfect. Then Eironn can pull 4 of them and Brutus takes agro

[civic nebula]

has anyone done this stage recently? I've no idea how this is supposed to even work. 5 hours and counting

[nimble condor]

i tried this but the isa is always killing me

[dense swift]

If Oden is indeed dropping Estrilda you can swap Brutus and Rowan

[nimble condor]

Okay

[nimble condor]

like this?

[dense swift]

Yes, and if Oden isn't dying too fast give him Call to see if he will cast and succ Isa

[nimble condor]

no luck there haha he dies straight away

[hoary crater]

Any way to deal with Fawkes and Tasi banish?

[nimble condor]

got it, replacing rowan with thoran was the play

[wooden orchid]

@hoary crater how did you beat this one

[hoary crater]

I just didn't. I used a hero that I borrowed

[wooden orchid]

Okay I don't mind merccing for chapter completion

[hoary crater]

Or w8 that was prob 23 60

[wooden orchid]

Lucius is such a pain in the ass

[hoary crater]

That was the same comp I think, you might be able to do this

[wooden orchid]

I feel like having no built tanks is the shittest thing everyone dies so fast

[quartz galleon]

is this good

[hoary crater]

Merc is resetting tomorrow so you have to use it today anyways

[wooden orchid]

Maybe I can push to
Ch 24 like you 😉

[hoary crater]

Yep

[wooden orchid]

I don't see any reason why not our teams are basically identical lol

[hoary crater]

This stage is my end tho. Double banish is a horror

[wooden orchid]

Fawkes / lucius / tasi are all a nightmare for me at the moment

[hoary crater]

Yep

[wooden orchid]

I usually look at formations for the stage I wish we were on the same server so I could copy you 🤣

[hoary crater]

XD that would actually be perfekt

[hoary crater]

Maybe try something like
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Thoran
Fereal
Or just swap Thoran and Brutus and retry those a bit

See how close you get. Cuz it's def not an Eironn stage, and nor Nara either. Might be with Oden but not sure

[wooden orchid]

I just passed it

Now to clear 60 stages before the gb scrolls change

[hoary crater]

Yep :3

I'll probably be stuck for a bit since both tower and Campain are double banish and I can't really ascend anyone since I lack copies. Will decide after my next few pulls and see then

[vivid seal]

any ideas guys?

i tried all formations

i just can t get through estrilda deletes 3 people when she charges

[hoary crater]

Daimon
Thoran
Eironn
Brutus
Fill

If daimon dies to fast try to swap Daimon and fill. Does Eironn get his pull off?

[wooden orchid]

@hoary crater help papi

[hoary crater]

Would guess a Eironn stage
Daimon
Rowan
Eironn
Thoran
Brutus
Try that

This might even be frontline Daimon with Rowan behind so swap Daimon and Rowan maybe

[wooden orchid]

I've tried all of those

[hoary crater]

Fereal fear might also be important to counter Tasi banish. The fear sometimes prevents it. So
Rowan
Daimon
Fereal
Thoran
Brutus
Maybe?

[wooden orchid]

Thanks will try when I'm home

[wooden orchid]

Any advice

[vivid seal]

if i use in the middle, nope. He doesn t pull anything idk why

[hoary crater]

Thats because estrilda interrupts his pull. Happens when she is frontline

[vivid seal]

i tried still fail

[hoary crater]

yeah I know

[vivid seal]

🥲

[hoary crater]

do you have Oden?

[vivid seal]

yes but only basic

[hoary crater]

That's good enough

Rowan?

[vivid seal]

yes e+

[hoary crater]

Then put both in crystal if you can

[vivid seal]

sec

[hoary crater]

Skreg can leave the crystal, not really that important for early stages

[vivid seal]

nah, i still failed lol. It s impossible to pass this stage for me

oden using his skill on wrong dude

[hoary crater]

With which team?

[hoary crater]

Thats not the team I mean. if Eironn cant pull he is out. Try Daimon 5, Oden 4, 3 fill

[vivid seal]

i tried with awsolise middle still died idk if i should try with mishka

[hoary crater]

perfect would be fereal or Lyca

[hoary crater]

Oden middle, Daimon bottom. see who Oden portals

[vivid seal]

he tp estrilda but i still fail lol. Tried with ferael and lyca too

[limber atlas]

Can anyone help me make 3 teams for arena

[vivid seal]

i think i just need dust to get daimon to 160 otherwose i will be stuck here

[hoary crater]

Fereal
Thoran
Oden
Brutus
Daimon
should prob work with good rng

what are your Artifacts?

[vivid seal]

dura call dura drape dura eye dura grace

is this guy good

[hoary crater]

He is sadly the worst Ascend hero. Might help you a bit rn

[vivid seal]

omg u kidding me

he is aw can t be this bad

[hoary crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015658140307566613/1043668539632005232/polish_save.jpg

This is the ToT Hero guide, you can guess how strong he is

[vivid seal]

build at your own sanity…that s racist

[sly thunder]

Not worth to build, but 1 copy of Aezizh is really good ngl, lucky you

[hoary crater]

He is nice for early, but you already have Asolise so you are set there if anything

[vivid seal]

yeah, i needed a hard tank for this stage ngl

[hoary crater]

Yeah that is true for faction tower later on

[limber atlas]

Can someone make me 3 teams for arena

[vivid seal]

so in a final what should i use to clear this stage i m so abnoyed i wanna get to 12 4 so i can proceed with peaks of time and the candy crush thing

[sly thunder]

His lock at the start is crazy good, he's just a better version of nara

[hoary crater]

Still this or with Lyca instead of Fereal or I guess Aezizh. As long as Oden portals erstrilda its optimal.

[vivid seal]

he doesn t portal estrilda in this formation. He is tpi g a normal hero

[hoary crater]

what if you swap Brutus and Thoran

[vivid seal]

still fail. Sometimes i kill mirael, sometimes not

but daimon gets cc ed from estrilda and he dies

if you want i can make a recording of how the fight goes

[hoary crater]

sure

[hoary crater]

tbh I see that working with enough retries

[vivid seal]

if i put lyca it s worse lol

so i should try again same formation?

[hoary crater]

can you send the post battle report with all the gear?

[vivid seal]

how

[hoary crater]

start a battle

let it run through and then bottom right and there the left tab

[sly thunder]

Use aezizh where you put ur oden, he will put saveas in sleep

[vivid seal]

oooh i understand now

[vivid seal]

i ll try rn

fuck i almoat got them lol ezih is good actually

[hoary crater]

just retry. if you havent replayed a fight at least 10 times, you dont know for sure it wont work

[vivid seal]

but daimon dies and ezih remains alive and he can t kill the 1%hp omgg

[hoary crater]

most of my stages are around 20+ retries for each position that might work

[vivid seal]

I DID IT JESUS

EZIH FRONTLINE LOL

[rose tundra]

Can someone help me with beating 39-60

[midnight cave]

I need help with lategame, CH 39 drafts, idk what my optimal drafts are, ping me if possible, I've been stuck for a year or so now =(

[runic bolt]

Go over some clears on AFKHelper for your chapter, see the most frequently occuring heroes and their investment, try to replicate that. You'll also gain some insight into formations. With your RC though, you should be able to brute force your way through the chapter.

[runic bolt]

Pair Alna with GBs, use Lucretia in invade with Skreg, with your RC, it'll work, use Raku LdV Khazard (or LDv Kren Mortas) as another team - take out the wilders bs go you have. Pair more CC's with Scarlet's team - Mishka works here, also energy feeders like Raine/Ezizh/Estrilda

[frozen plinth]

@Specter#1753

Any Tipps for Wrizz?

[steep vale]

Any tips? Every one said that lvl 200 Daimon would get me easy to Ch 24😂 I'm at ch 18 and I can't do it

[dense swift]

show the stage you're stuck on, you have more than enough power at a glance but if that's your formation it's easy to tell why you're struggling

[cobalt sky]

How can I cheese this better I've tried my best but my daimon just keeps getting burst damaged into oblivion

[dense swift]

If you have Oden, use him to stack Golus and Estrilda on one side instead of letting them split, place Daimon on the side they are not on.

[cobalt sky]

I do he's level 1 will that still work?

[dense swift]

Resonate him, he'll just explode at level 1 lol

[cobalt sky]

Alright

[cobalt sky]

Stacked them a few times but my daimon still gets demolished at the end

[dense swift]

Daimon

Rowan
AwEzizh
Brutus
Oden

swap brutus and rowan and daimon depending on where enemies are stacking - brutus should be taking both stacked frontline from the enemy team, daimon should be far away from them

dont move awezizh from middle

you can also try awsolise instead of rowan

[cobalt sky]

I don't have Rowan or awezizh or awsolis but the method you told me works pretty much i get them all dead besides the deer chic and she's killing I'ma upgrade gear a little bit and it should work ty tho

[dense swift]

mb I looked at the wrong person's boxes lol

swap out silas because he's prob not healing much before dying, pippa would be good

[cobalt sky]

Alright

[cobalt sky]

That worked tysm

[solemn valve]

Recommendations? Want to level the right ones

[dense swift]

=earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[dense swift]

besides that, keep Daimon 20-40 levels above everyone else as he's your main carry

[solemn valve]

thanks i think i am confused still

so i should stop leveling my other characters and focus on fodder?

[midnight cave]

all the drafts there and on the in-game clear all use heroes I don't own yet (Alna, Raku, Raine, 5-Pull, Mehira Burst) I've been working towards pretty similar drafts but don't own those heroes and I'm a long way off, is there not a draft that I can make with what I do have to try and make some progress to obtain the heroes I need?

[dense swift]

you should reset non-fodder characters and level the fodders, then resonate the characters who are 4-skill that you intend to use

[cerulean junco]

Can someone help me with my line up I'm kinda stuck and don't really know who to use I already changed my wishlist (does not matter if lol 1)

[dense swift]

=earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[dense swift]

reset the non-daimon chars, level your fodder, stop making legendaries randomly, lastly I wanted to say your box is awful

you can probably resonate fearel, eironn, rowan... I dont even know after that, just use hogan or ogi or something

[mystic raptor]

@dense swift hey.. may i ask something?? What heroes are prioritized from each faction? Because I want to make it a wishlist on my nobletavern

[dense swift]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958088500773797950/999239639011446794/213.png?width=530&height=530

but change:
estrilda to palmer
tidus to numisu
lyca (one copy) then to nevanthi

[solemn valve]

what if my fodder are still blue? and not elite?

[dense swift]

you can wait for now until they're e+ or L then, but don't level new 4-stars as you'll be resetting.

[sweet trail]

Bruh why no show that picture before it was too late

I hate ghzul or whatever his name is, i cant get pass dooooddd

[dense swift]

no daimon huh... show your entire box, need to see your GBs

[mystic raptor]

@dense swift bro... is there a line up recommendation for me ??

[solemn valve]

who should i revert first since i do have mirael at L?

[dense swift]

Daimon Brutus Eironn Silas and you can use either Nevanthi or Palmer for now I suppose. I'm surprised you only have this many 4 skill

[dense swift]

You can revert Nemora first, your team will be probably Daimon, Brutus, Silas, Oden and Fearel for a while

[sweet trail]

@dense swift ive always used my fraction scrolls on Lb

[mystic raptor]

@dense swift okeeyy thank coach.. 🙏🏻

[solemn valve]

what about Daimon, Silas, Izold, Ferael, Rowan?

[mystic raptor]

Thanks*

[dense swift]

That's awkward lol, should be on GB always

You might want to consider restarting because without a strong Daimon you're gonna get really stuck

For now tho you can run Nara instead of Raine and do

Scarlet

Brutus
Rosaline
Thoran
Nara

And see if that works

[dense swift]

If you have Rowan run him instead of Silas, Izold won't be used and Silas isn't necessary with Rowan, Daimon is core

[sweet trail]

I didnt really research much when starting and i just heard scarlet is good early to lat game

[runic bolt]

1. Charm (you only need E Mehira + 3 star windbinder) - use Charm(rowan, rosa, mehira) w/ Daimon
2. Dim team (Albedo, Ainz, Prince, Geralt, flex)
3. Luc invade w/ Skreg, Hodgkin, throwaway units
4. Queen 5-pull (Eironn, Skriath, Queen, DPS, barricade holder)
5. Scarlet + Energy feeders (Estrilda, Ezizh (E works)) + CC (Eg - Tasi/Mishka)
6. GBs (use Mishka to ensure Grez survives as you don't have Alna)

[solemn valve]

So who are my 5? And who am I leveling?

[mystic raptor]

@dense swift do i have to use this now?

[solemn valve]

Sorry iv just turned myself around

[dense swift]

No you can save most of it, I'd use faction scrolls on GB and use your summon scrolls though

[dense swift]

Mirael daimon Ogi Silv and Arden for 5 to level

[mystic raptor]

Like this ??? I don't know the composition 🫠🫠

[solemn valve]

and then actual team is Daimon, brutus, Rowan, Oden, and Fearel?

[dense swift]

Yes

[dense swift]

Eironn middle, you should roll more and then consult again

[midnight cave]

Thx, I'll try these, the Mehira draft hasn't done well for me in the past as Mehira just dies so quickly and my Rosa/Rowan were underfarmed for ages, 5 pull same issue, I get the 5 pull off but then everybody dies and it's just Queen vs the world, I'll try them again

I've been running Ainz comp w/ Albedo/Arthur, a stunning comp with Prince/Queen and some dmg dealers, and a Scarlet/Grez comp, those 3 have done wlel but my remaining drafts were just unuseable

[limpid dove]

Could I get help for crimson snow 5?

[midnight cave]

I didn't change my current Scarlet draft as I already knew it wins that particular battle, all of em won but most of em barely won, only draft that did not win was the Mehira one as everyone dies so quickly, especially Daimon

[sweet trail]

@dense swift ty and rng for the clutch lmao, i thinj i tried over a 100 attemptes only like so many levels

[cerulean junco]

What fractions

[dense swift]

Graveborn for you

[plush pulsar]

Ehhhhhh any tips?

[dense swift]

F for Shemira

[plush pulsar]

Have already went through Rosalina, Numizu, Nara, Athalia, Tasi and Talene. My best result was with Athalia

[plush pulsar]

I stopped playing the game like 3 years ago, got really shocked how things changed 😂

[dense swift]

you are kinda at the point where Daimon stops carrying, maybe look for Ainzbedo or Raku A

another thing you could do is look up thoran cheese and use the swap scroll on Shemira with someone else... but I have no idea if it's actually a good idea to use your swap like that

[plush pulsar]

Yeah was kinda scared about it too

[plush pulsar]

Anyway, any tips, for like, now?

[dense swift]

based off what you have, I would try:

Lucretia

Brutus
Nara
Rowan
Shemira

and see what happens, problem here is that I'm not super familiar with a lot of your chars as t hey're not meta

[plush pulsar]

Yeaaaaaah it kinda sucks

But thank you anyway I'll give it a shot

Holy crap it worked, even thought Lucretia carried

[dense swift]

👍 you may also want to swap Shemira for something to buff Lucretia, dont know if you have a mortas or twins

[dark cave]

Still learning, is there an good overall Line-up for the first few Chapter?

[dense swift]

=earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[dense swift]

Your rolls are good, keep leveling Daimon and follow the guide for the fodder heroes. You will resonate Rowan, Lyca, Ferrell, maybe Skreg temporarily

Also fix your wishlist, scroll up until you see the image I linked

[dark cave]

(1) Thanks for the Earlygame guide - Already have read different Guides, rerolled a few times for those pulls and following it.
[Only leveling Daimon (instead if a 5th fodder) right away because I already have three copies and be able to get three guranteed addition copies from different rewards.]
Leveling 4 Fodder Heroes along with him.

(2) My WL is correct, but got a lot of random summons where the WL doesn't work. Fraction Scrolls, Summon with 60 of these purple summon stones, the very first tutorial pull, Event rewards, ...
But thanks

(3) Following the guide - And I'm sure I could just progress with Daimon and four Fodder Heroes. But since I got a few pulls I thought I can use them to be a bit faster
So you would suggest this line up, right? (but obviously with the bonus from the reso crystal)

[dense swift]

Line up is fine for now, replace skreg later with Mishka, Brutus or Thoran if you get them

[dark cave]

Already got Mishka. Idk if you have overlooked her? Should I use her instead?
Or is Skreg better in the early game?

Or should I use Skreg, because I got 3 copies of him?

And thanks 🙂

[tacit sandal]

what team to use for campaign?

[covert sigil]

daimon, mishka, ferael, silas, lyca/oden

[covert sigil]

u need pippa, eironn, nara

[tacit sandal]

no brutas or solise?

[covert sigil]

in campaign u dont use the same heroes every stage :)) U need to mix and match and check for the skills amd position of the enemy

[tacit sandal]

i see

[copper coral]

hey

[dense swift]

Use either one then, they'll get replaced eventually either way

[copper coral]

basically I need help on the stage and I need y'all help because I can't get through this and I've been stuck for literally 2 days and that's not normal

[warped lichen]

Scarlet back center with Asolise in back row as well. Play with everything else till it works. Personally I would level oden’s signature item

[dense swift]

2 days is pretty normal for being stuck tbh

[steady rain]

You should know that your account is seriously mismanaged. Too many mythics, no ascendeds. Also slightly under leveled for chapter 22 I think.

[spare jackal]

Guild boss setup?

[dense swift]

Get a merc and use them, Lucretia would be good

[spare jackal]

Well yeah that's a given, this server is only a day old, but for now which ones would work to get me a bit

[dense swift]

All 3 awakened, Rowan, Silas prob

[sharp adder]

Need help Luci not doing enough damage

[hoary sierra]

Tell her to do more then

[sly thunder]

Different pet/ Better lucy merc?

[round fable]

I need a good team to do 86th to 100th floor, lb tower

[covert sigil]

trial abelinda?

[round fable]

Already taken

[round fable]

Expired

[sharp adder]

@sly thunder beat that round now i'm stuck on round 3

High rng raku 5 pull...

[sly thunder]

Use polar better imo

[sharp adder]

Used it on charm comp

[wooden orchid]

Any advice

[tulip dagger]

Try more, call on daimon + rowan?

[wooden orchid]

@tulip dagger I passed it this is even worse I can't deal with the double banish
Blade on brutus
Eye on thoran and fereal
Call on daimon and rowan

[tulip dagger]

Why blade on brutus? He is mostly there to tank and die tbh he doesnt really do any dmg
Artis are fine
Swap daimon with fera for this because of est, the banish is hard enough on its own

[steady scroll]

swap rowan with Oden

[wooden orchid]

My bad he has vitality not blade
I've retried this a few 100 times they all just die so fast
I've tried oden and eironn they both just die before they can tele/pull respectively

[tulip dagger]

Why would you ever do that? Free health and energy

[wooden orchid]

Yeah I don't swap rowan his si30 is too good

[steady scroll]

idk, tbh never used rowan in my main setup

[tulip dagger]

Try swapping around thoran and brutus
And maybe swap rowan daimon so less people have access to his cart

[steady scroll]

you don't need hp if u send an enemy to void xD

I'd personally go like this.
In your current setup your daimon gets additional cc from Estrilda when she charges, against her and Ogy I always spread daimon from brutus

[wooden orchid]

Didn't think of moving rowan so less access to his cart - once again you have been my saviour 🙏🏼

[wooden orchid]

My oden is only E+ the fight starts and he instantly dies so he never gets his portal off

[tulip dagger]

Worked so fast? Neat haha

[wooden orchid]

All the stars aligned it would appear

[steady scroll]

imo on that lvl lineup didn't matter that much, you struggle cuz of your lvl in my opinion. keep your daimon 40lvl ahead cuz I see you lvling up your whole team 1 by 1

[tulip dagger]

His rc is 165 daimon cant go past 205 for now

[steady scroll]

@tulip dagger is there something like "match history" in afk arena ?

[tulip dagger]

Sadly not

=afkhelper

[cloud nexus]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[tulip dagger]

People write down and post their solutions there

And other people can check your clears on previous boss stages

[steady scroll]

yeah written down can be checked but it doesnt look into what current ID used on certain stage sadly

[tulip dagger]

If you got somebody around/below your stage they should be able to check youe boss clears

[left bear]

just got into the game, anything i can build out of this? i dont really like my current team

[wooden orchid]

@tulip dagger

[tulip dagger]

=earlygame read this and the pins in #classic-questions 🙂

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

Does your rowan have T1/2 gear yet?

Could frontline him then as its not too bad
Like brutus/rowan
Fera/nara to hook mirael/daimon

Guess mirael sweeps rn?

[wooden orchid]

Mirael dmg and fereal cc is too much

[runic bolt]

Not everything will work as is, you are lacking some critical heroes but you should still be able to power through with RC. If the Scarlet team always work, try weakening it by removing units you can use in another round. You're around ~120 deficit I believe, so most units who can carry will work.

[tulip dagger]

So no, lol

[wooden orchid]

Unfortunately not all t1 but helm on daimon and just boots for fereal

[tulip dagger]

Give above setup a try anyway and see how long he can survive.. hogan isnt too bad

[wooden orchid]

I think I'm just Gated by levels now I might just wait till I can take them all to 180 and then push daimon past 200

[north cape]

stuck on this stage

[atomic cobalt]

I’m new to the game who should I build

[safe bluff]

in the beginning i really liked using Wu Kong, but as you gain more heroes he will slowly not be viable in campaign progression but a great start IMO

Silas and Oden are great later on.

Pro tip: click on the character, click on popularity button (top left) and then click on formation tab to see other characters that go great with them and their formation rank

[old token]

Popularity is fine as a gauge, but use this (link below) to determine whom to actually build. Building specifically around those popularity charts will lead to heartbreak later on.

On specific stages, click formation to give you an idea on comps to use.

#994905429614264360 message

[sly thunder]

[old token]

[next stirrup]

True

[safe fog]

Shemira kek

[old token]

Sad when vast majority of players probably aren't on discord and come here asking for advice only to be annihilated lmao

[limber stirrup]

man im so sad

i had followed a really old guide i guess, and it just said to only focus on shemira cause she carrys and im just so sad now

[safe fog]

Very old guide

[limber stirrup]

sadge

im really tempted to just restart but i dont know...

[safe fog]

Depends how far u are

[limber stirrup]

chapter 10

im just kinda at a point where im not able to keep progressing in campaign, and am not getting many more heroes

i think im going to start a new account on pc so i dont regret restarting on my phone

[safe fog]

And read pins in questions channel

[limber stirrup]

preciate that baby

[cobalt sky]

I've tried every method of attacks I know but none of its working any suggestions. Ive tried like 3-4 different formations now

[limber stirrup]

shi i mean u like 100 levels under is that maybe a factor

im new so im actually asking btw

[cobalt sky]

Maybe but I've seen people like 200 under just fine

[steady scroll]

looking for reason I'd point on every yellow quarter u have there as why are u struggling
keep Daimon behind brutus unless there is Estrilda/Ogi

[cobalt sky]

Oh alright.

Didn't work unfortunately

[steady scroll]

then lvl up/get better gear

[cobalt sky]

This is the outcome essentially

[steady scroll]

show the "Hero info"

[steady scroll]

I'd personally gear up Oden. If you can't outdmg any lineup, CC it.
if u have only 1 set for inteligence, use ferael instead of silas

[cobalt sky]

Alright

Haven't got my hands on ferael yet but once I do that'll be nice

[steady scroll]

Lysa will also work

[cobalt sky]

Alright

Is that the pink deer

I just beat it using lyca ty.

[tulip dagger]

Dont got past Si 20 for daimon btw, other priorities

[tulip dagger]

Endgame you push vs several 100 lvl deficits

[limber stirrup]

shi highest ive ever been was like chapter 12

[tulip dagger]

You can simply make a fresh account on another server and swap between those two with a few clicks/taps

[tulip dagger]

Thats a few days in lmao

[limber stirrup]

i always hit a wall

[tulip dagger]

Use guides, break walls

[limber stirrup]

but this time its gonna be different i swear 🐈

[tulip dagger]

You naturally hit a wall when you gotta afk for dust and other lvl up materials but thats the name of the game

[limber stirrup]

yeah that makes sense

[tulip dagger]

For next time, if you are facing isabella use nara to hook her and keep her down

[fresh trail]

Hey, new player here and I'm not too sure which hero's I should be using... also I'm not sure which hero to choose from the wish finder chest

[steady scroll]

#1041161459935223828 message

[tulip dagger]

Pick rowan imo

Read link above + pins in #classic-questions

[limber stirrup]

need some help to form a team with daimon

[dense swift]

daimon thoran fearel oden rowan will do you fine for a while

[limber stirrup]

thanks

[cobalt sky]

Alright

My braincells can't comprehend this stage I just die 🙂 not sure what else I could do honestly got my daimon to level 200 people say he'll carry till chap 24. But I'm stuck.

[tulip dagger]

Multiple problems
Estrilada charges straight forward killing daimon and oden, mirael ults in their path too
Isabella ult obliterating your team

[dense swift]

ok how to play game with daimon:

1. daimon needs time to cast his blood shield and ultimate, so the rest of your team exists to basically buff him or buy him time. aka supports and tanks
2. daimon will die from burst so you cannot line him up with characters that burst. In this case, Estrilda will cast and her burst is insane as an enemy, she will make sure Daimon dies too quickly to be effective
3. when playing with oden, Oden can stack units on top of each other and negate how enemies line up - watch who he stacks in what lane and position away from things that burst
4. when looking at loss screen statistics, look at who on their team is dealing the most damage and think about if you have a way to cc them or remove their energy

[tulip dagger]

Somebody typing a solution rn

[dense swift]

hint: you have a nara use her

[tulip dagger]

Try
Brutus/daimon
AwTalene/silas/nara

[cobalt sky]

Just did on the Isabella didn't work I'll try your lineup

[tulip dagger]

Daimon might live front with 12 lvl deficits

Not sure about the Awlene, oden might be better utility wise vs her doing dmg

[cobalt sky]

It worked

[tulip dagger]

Nice!

[cobalt sky]

I've never used my awtalene before but she's pretty good and thanks for the rundown on how daimon works coaxci didn't even know why he was so good

[dense swift]

other things that may have worked are eironn in the middle slot and tasi depending who she succs

[tulip dagger]

Eironn mid would only pull estr though? The two troulemages would be unharmed

[cobalt sky]

Thanks you guys well now I understand what my carry needs so I'm off to push campaign for a little bit

[dense swift]

main reason why daimon is good is because he scales w/ enemy stats rather than just his own, so he's able to fight at high deficit

[tulip dagger]

Great, enjoy the game! Much mlre fun when you understand why it works lol

[dense swift]

in my exp if eironn pulls the 2 frontline, Daimon on either side will attack the compatriot and focus down one threat relatively quick

[tulip dagger]

Aw heroes are busted early on, fall off later tho due to lack of ascension

[dense swift]

sometimes he RNGs and attacks the frontline blob tho

[tulip dagger]

Ah might work too! That stage looks pretty annyoing early on though good he had a high daimon

Its been so long since i was in earlygame

[dense swift]

I'm still in late 20s but I found that if you run eironn and nara it's like baby 5 pull for cc

well it is with your help that I got to where I am today lol

[stark iron]

help pls im stuck on this

[tulip dagger]

Skreg/brutus
Skriath/kren/numisu

Might still be too hard due to low investments
Athalia shuts down that one slot, mehira charms your entire team

[limber stirrup]

stuck on chapter 6 man 😭

[proper orchid]

I can do literally anything but Athane

[gaunt hawk]

can i ask what i should target with stargaze-time emblems in this channel?

[proper orchid]

#classic-questions

[gaunt hawk]

k thx

[limber stirrup]

need some tips please

nvm just got super lucky and passed it

[plucky abyss]

Need help on 11-32

[dense swift]

use oden in the back where arden is, see where Golus/Estrilda are thrown, put Daimon in a "lane" where Estrilda/Golus will not use their ability on and you should pass it

[plucky abyss]

Ok

[cobalt sky]

Got stuck again finally any suggestions on what I should do oden didn't work. Pippa didn't work not sure what else tbh

[dense swift]

in this situation your primary threats are shemira, isa, and fearel

1. shemira deals immense magic damage over a duration rather quickly... you have a character that can tank that and it isn't thoran since he'll die and drop aggro
2. check stats to see how much Silas is really doing, because I have a feeling it's not much. Haste, energy, or cc are better than him.
3. would be nice if you could CC fearel somehow... especially if you could also CC grezhul and niru at the same time, which would open Daimon to hit Shemira or Isa depending on your positioning

[cobalt sky]

Alright lemme see what he's doing

[dense swift]

also one more

4. oden operates by throwing usually a frontline into the backline, which can drop aggro for a frontline unit of theirs. so if he's throwing Fearel...

my guess would be that Silas is using his puddle, and then summoning one cloud before dying

[cobalt sky]

Well somehow I managed to beat it with the most insane rng ever and moving Brutus over

Apparently that's all I needed ty

[dense swift]

👍 can definitely work, the CC isn't as important as tanking Shemira here because your thoran was getting nuked, dropping aggro, then aggro goes onto Daimon immediately

[cobalt sky]

I see alright never knew how much just switching tank positions could effect it so much

[limber stirrup]

back here again im so easily getting stuck in these early chapters and its getting annoying mane im basically relying on rng right now but i cant rng out of this level

[dense swift]

your brutus can tank for 7 seconds without dropping aggro, most likely closer to 9-10. Thoran can tank maybe 3-4 before going into his revive sequence which fears enemies when he's back, but in this case it probably would only hit Grez at most

dropping aggro means enemies switch targets

[next stirrup]

I'm basically relying on rng
Yeah that's all of campaign and it only gets worse haha

If you're not having to retry over and over and over you're not pushing enough

[limber stirrup]

but im not even getting close

im dying instantly to 3 skill enemies lol shits depressing

[dense swift]

hey don't make fun of 3 skill enemies, ascended golus will sleep with your wife before you can blink

[limber stirrup]

im 16 so i hope not

[dense swift]

your issue might be that thoran is dropping aggro/dying too quickly and bringing aggro to Daimon, try backlining Daimon and sending Rowan as a sacrifice infront

place Daimon in the top left position if you're backlining him

[limber stirrup]

that was a massacre 😭 ive already tried doing that but i thought since u said it maybe rnjesus would be there for me

i honestly dont know how i got to chapter 12 with such a bad team on my other account

[dense swift]

oh wait what is oden doing in these fights

[tulip dagger]

Does he even have his tp skill at 77?

Team looks fine imo, should work but if it doesnt levels will help

[dense swift]

pretty sure he has it pretty early, Im thinking Oden might be throwing Golus on Daimon

[limber stirrup]

im struggling to get my fodder to lvl 80

[tulip dagger]

Name of the game

[limber stirrup]

im over here leveling my golus one level every battle

[dense swift]

if I'm right and Oden is tping Golus into daimon's "lane" then swap Thoran and Daimon

[limber stirrup]

now daimon just died first and thoran was the last alive

[dense swift]

so what is oden doing

[limber stirrup]

i remember on my other account being able to level people up super duper fast and i never even paid ion remember how i did it

odin is tping into the lane that thoran is in now so its working like you said

[dense swift]

and Daimon is still getting nuked instantly?

if you have silas then try this

Oden

Thoran
Rowan
Daimon
Silas

[limber stirrup]

i wish i had silas or like any other healer, cause rowan is kinda poopy w/o being 121 or higher

[dense swift]

and if that doesn't work then you probably just need to hit 81 on your team besides Daimon

[limber stirrup]

im close to hitting 81 rn i just need my ghost assassin 3 skill fodder girl (i forgot her name) to be 81, just need 20k hero xp

alright got everyone to 81 and it was just lightwork lmao

thanks a million man

[cobalt sky]

This is incredibly sad for me. Tried hooking tassi nope she gets 1 shit tried hooking old man I get slept and frozen into oblivionhelppp

This is like the perfect combination of damage and annoyance I swear

I know the problem is tassi but I just can't hook her or pull or anything so it's just sadness and depression

[dense swift]

try eironn where oden is, also Silas is probably getting nuked too quickly to be truly useful

[cobalt sky]

Unfortunately didn't work just tried it I'm figuring out some stuff now

[limber stirrup]

how to deal with silvina here and any other time in future attempts?

[cobalt sky]

Do you have inara?

[limber stirrup]

what does she look like

[cobalt sky]

Send me a ss of your peeps real quick