lineup-help

[tulip dagger]

Where are your reds though? Give that little merchant his +30

[runic lantern]

Still not sure who I should be starting does it look about right?

[tulip dagger]

=earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

You want to level 5 fodders, actual heroes you use go i to crystal

[steady scroll]

im just like month or two in game so well... 😛 lil merchant gotta wait a bit :p
focused on deimon

[tulip dagger]

He is +30 prio #1
Daimon was too early my friend

[steady scroll]

hmm

[tulip dagger]

Otherwise good setup
Daimon/thoran front
Scarlet rowan oden backline

Make your rowan shiny

[royal stag]

Ur Rowan is way fatter then mine

[tulip dagger]

Pls no judge the engravings

I was young and stupid

Lmao

[royal stag]

[royal stag]

Btw are u in nihilum?

[tulip dagger]

Yes since this week

Old guild too ded

[runic lantern]

@tulip dagger so I shouldn’t be leveling all of these just fodders and put my main team in Crystal

[tulip dagger]

You should level fodders yeah, your currently levelled guys are "good" heroes
Fodders are 3 skill heroes

[runic lantern]

Ahh okay cool thanks!

[steady scroll]

thats stonks 😄
yea I had in my head to reach as high as possible to get access to mythic afk rewards + i had more luck with deimon than rowan in tavern.
since now i have strong carry im focusing on rowan
Next step (and here correct me if im wrong) im going to focus on grezhul engravings + signature + furnitures to swap Thoran for the better frontline (next focus gonna be Lucretia when I ascend her which will take a bit)

[tulip dagger]

Grez wants 9f before you touch him again tbh

[steady scroll]

im aware of that

[tulip dagger]

209 is fine, do engravings once you are there

You are close to multis btw

Luc 5pull will be your second team then ig, should be doable to build M+30 luc until then

9f takes forever depending on your rng, dont spend too many red cards at once, 3-4 max

[steady scroll]

i have 4 cards waiting atm, gonna use on grez when get few on him from pulling tho
btw Lucretia is playable on mythic with just +30 signature ?

[tulip dagger]

Yep thats when she starts being usable

[steady scroll]

noice so I need 3 more copies of her to get mythic
and here is my confusion if going for Grezhul is good idea or should I wait for Lucretia to boost her

[tulip dagger]

Two different things tbh
Luc +30 when M vs grez +20 9f when A

If you want to save your cards for luc that will take some more weeks

[steady scroll]

indeed, just don't play long enough to know which one of them gonna have bigger impact

[tulip dagger]

Luc takes longer to build, is a carry
Grez is an awesome tank and essential in some boss battles as he steals stats, hars to compare

[steady scroll]

exactly! I want them both ! xD
but f2p wise I'll focus on Grez for obvious reasons ;p

thanks for answers buddy

[noble crane]

my Daimon is lvl 160 and rest of the team 140 should i get him to 180 since I have the dust ? or bring up the rest of the team

[steady scroll]

max the carry the rest u have to upgrade later on anyway to extend the level

[noble crane]

kk

[steady scroll]

from my perspective (as a lazy person LF easiest solutions) your team's job is to allow Daimon survive till he'll start spamming his ultimate
if they manage to do so, you win 😛

[slow ivy]

Who can i use here as a beginner?

[steady scroll]

thats crimson snow ?

[slow ivy]

It is yhea. It's a pain in the ass

[steady scroll]

thats the only F2P lineup I've found so far, worked till stage 16 cuz my pet is low lvl

[fallen void]

He doesn’t have awakened Solise

[steady scroll]

solise can be swapped with Nevathi

i also just got her today

[slow ivy]

Let me try

[steady scroll]

the proper frontline is Ezizh + Mishka but since I don't have Ezizh i used Desira

[midnight cave]

Need help w/ lategame drafts (ping me as I'm goin' afk for a bit)

[slow ivy]

I don't have nevanthi

[steady scroll]

hmmm Silas?

[slow ivy]

Yy

[steady scroll]

try to pull Nevathi/solise
you have 13d still 😛

[slow ivy]

Nop

[steady scroll]

try use that lil hulk

ofc if your lion isnt higher lvl 😛

[slow ivy]

Still no xD

[steady scroll]

hmmmm

I'd say chill and try to summon nevathi till like 3days left to end. maybe more lineups will show up

[slow ivy]

I don't even have her in my wish list xD

[steady scroll]

they giving plenty of time emblems so maybe you'll have luck for solise1 copy is enough since this event max every single character that you're using

[slow ivy]

I was told to save tho

[steady scroll]

well imo Solise is the one worth pulling for 1 copy. can boost your faction tower and be utilised in realms + this current event and other which works like that one where u get maxed out heroes

but overall yeah, best to pull only with like 500-600 time emblems

[slow ivy]

Eh guess i can feed my gambling addiction a bit :P

[steady scroll]

have same issue xD

[slow ivy]

Got her hahahaha

[steady scroll]

thats my savings xD

[steady scroll]

gratz buddy 😄

[slow ivy]

Let's try the comp again

[steady scroll]

good luck 😉

[slow ivy]

Insta win wtf

Didn't even stood a chance 0.0

[steady scroll]

thats why i think she's worth pulling for 1 copy.
healing machine, buffer and dmg dealer. 3 in 1

[placid prairie]

Any help?

[astral dragon]

put daimon infront of horse girl, silas in back middle, and wukong where silas is, idk how good mulan is early game but maybe try switching wukong with mulan if he dies too quickly still

[paper gazelle]

stuck here for a while should i start ascending other gravesborns

any bro that can give me a quick direction

[dense swift]

mishka out, oden in, rowan frontlined. place brutus where Oden is stacking their frontline. Can also use Nara or Ezizh to CC the Isa

[paper gazelle]

ill try bro should i try ti ascend any hero ? my box getting kinda full lol

[dense swift]

if you can make a M Rowan sure, other than that I'd just hold off and use gems to expand the box

[paper gazelle]

and when do i start ascending other heros other than rowan and daimon?

I have a lot of copies of thoran for example

[dense swift]

when you have 8 E copies

#1041161459935223828 message

[paper gazelle]

thanks

i have 8 copys of nerzhul so i should ascend him right

since he is in my wishlist and a priority hero i guess

[dense swift]

you can if you want, but keep in mind that he's not really "usable" until heavy investment

[paper gazelle]

damn this game is complicated as hell

[dense swift]

👍 afk arena actually has a good amount of dimension and depth to it for a 2d idle battler

[paper gazelle]

if you dont mind a last question how do i find out which heros are good without heavy investment

[dense swift]

most heroes are only good when invested in properly, otherwise you follow the guides in the pins in #classic-questions and #faq-resources on how to advance

tl;dr: ainz + albedo, thoran cheese, lucretia M

[naive lodge]

Hey fellas, who are the next heroes that I should put into the crystal? Also is there someone I should remove? I'm at chapter 10 rn and starting to have some difficulties

[dense swift]

fix your crystal and heroes completley first:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[naive lodge]

@dense swift Hi, that thread doesn't mention anything about the crystal

Or am I missing something?

[dense swift]

ascend and level your fodder heroes to use as the crystal 5

[naive lodge]

Yeah, I've done Mirael already, and the rest are very close but can't do it right now. So I just afk until I ascend them all?

[dense swift]

you should reset Mirael, ascend Daimon to L for now smiply because you can take him to 140, level Daimon to 140 since that's the max you can do, and leave Mirael at 100.

as for heroes to use, I would use Rowan, Fearel, Mortas, Brutus, Nara, Thoran as your resonated

and yes, consume both copies of Silva(?) at E+ to make the L Daimon. normally you wouldn't needlessly push a L like this, but since it's Daimon and you'll be looking to go A with him sooner or later as your first GB, it's totally fine

[buoyant relic]

Tips on how to pass 13-20?

[dense swift]

Brutus instead of Thoran or Hogan here, Mirael can be subbed out with Lyca, Oden, Eironn, or Nara

[buoyant relic]

ok ty

[zenith knot]

not wokring for me lol

[rain tusk]

^^ I just cannot pass this - cannot fathom why

[mortal scroll]

Hey guys, im total newbie and I need some advice

So red squares is my team

I also have the chest from code to get any hero, and chest with

So i need advice to my teamcomp. Should i change smth? Should i use 1+elite fooder(ascended for example to get Daimon to L+ bcs im stuck right now or should i just wait for legendary)

And what is the best use of the multihero chest? Should i get some top tier hero, or like Rowan to make him E+ and level up him, or leave this chest for a bettter moment?

Thanks for help<3

Oh and i dont have any teamup fraction bonus so that sucks also i guess

[placid prairie]

just got daimon! any lineup suggestions?

[pale kettle]

if i got solise should now i get diff awakened or still grind for her to ascend?

[astral dragon]

If its the only awakened you have I'd say get awakened brutus then start building one of them

I think people usually build solise first though

[astral dragon]

Bruh I finally got a regular Brutus and the single brutus + daimon combo actually works 😭

my main team couldnt beat this level but that duo did it first try

[ancient gate]

How do you get the awakened version of solice?

[pale kettle]

u unblock that later

[mortal frost]

Hi I’m still pretty new and I recently came back to this game and I want to know of any good teams with the characters I have

[dense swift]

you only have 260k power, no super notable heroes, and way, way too many legendaries - I suggest you restart

[mortal frost]

What hero’s should I focus on then if I restart

[dense swift]

Daimon, Rowan

#classic-questions message

[pale kettle]

4th Day into the game. F2p. Any advices?

[dense swift]

#classic-questions message

#faq-resources message

read both

[honest jacinth]

Oooh thanks

[paper minnow]

Read pinned guides in #classic-questions
For the chest for any hero save it tilk u just need a copy to get a priority hero to A/M. For the other chest pick nara if u dont have a copy otherwise scrolls.

[ancient gate]

Help, im at 11-16

[raven nimbus]

Should I swap someone out for baden?

[dense swift]

#1041161459935223828 message

Read and fix your resonate crystal first

Then post the stage

[dense swift]

Swap Oden and Daimon. Put call on Oden if you have, try that.

If it doesn't work, backline Ezizh against Isa. Move Rowan to his spot. Swap Oden and Daimon. Change Oden for Eironn or Nara

[raven nimbus]

I unfortunately have neither Nara or eironn

[dense swift]

Lyca is OK, can also try Arden.

If you really want to run Awbaden then swap Oden

You can also try removing everyone but Awbrutus and Daimon and seeing what happens

[raven nimbus]

Thank you

[cunning sky]

Help plz everyone die too fast

[last wadi]

I need help my heroes die way to qiuck. I tried multiple lineups

[dense swift]

Daimon

AwBrutus
Lyca
AwSolise
Ezizh

you have an incredible box but somehow you're stuck on 18 lol

then again it makes sense, your account looks like it's very old based off the shemira

[last wadi]

No its new. I made this a account 4 months ago

[last wadi]

Didnt work. I lost

[dense swift]

run it like 20 times

[last wadi]

I tried around 25times still lost

My heroes dont last 10sec

[dense swift]

level Daimon to M and slap his sig item on him

can also reset shemira, she's fodder level

[last wadi]

Finaly

That was the lieup

[hollow quiver]

I got 314m with this
What should i do to reach 360m

[last wadi]

Omg i wass stuck for so long now i only need to bet the last stage of 18

[dense swift]

you have the twins? run them instead of awkbelinda mybe

[hollow quiver]

no

[short dune]

how do I further increase daimon’s longevity or damage? he ults, but only once, and couldn’t kill anyone before banish/sleep/death

it’s maybe an RNG issue. tried different pets for tenacity or dodge, but still insufficient damage

update: pb gained, daimon killed 3 people before being put down (slept)

Nvm got past (complain strat wins again)

[small mortar]

Hey, juste sarted a new serv account and I wanted to know what do you think about this lineup, who rosaline should follows ? Thx !

[dense swift]

needs daimon, find a daimon

[golden glacier]

I cant login

[dense swift]

wrong channel, try reinstalling the game

[small mortar]

daimon’s better than who ? Oden ?

[dense swift]

everything in your lineup except rowan is replaceable

[small mortar]

x)

[short dune]

daimon is stupid powerful, try to get 4 copies of him early (+ 6 E+ gb fodders) to rush him to mythic

signature item for extremely funny early game pushing

[small mortar]

okay, that’s a better comment, thank you 👍

[cosmic folio]

Need help, stuck at Ch10

Here’s my box

[short dune]

put lyca into crystal, then (in slots 1-5): lyca, brutus, oden, ferael, daimon

[dense swift]

you dont need twins, instead run:

Fearel/Lyca

Brutus
Oden
Rowan
Daimon

[cosmic folio]

Crystal cooldown, I will put lyca after. Who others should I remove?

[cosmic folio]

Ok this is noted. I will remove twins from the crystal, who should I replace?

[dense swift]

looks like lyca to me

[cosmic folio]

Your team formation works. I will save this team formation. Thanks

[dense swift]

it will not always work, you need to juggle in nara, eironn, ezizh, thoran, hogan, etc as needed but the core I always used early was lyca rowan brutus daimon in most situations with the last slot situational

[quiet barn]

Any suggestions?

[dense swift]

ezizh can cc isa, consider frontlining rowan and swapping Thoran for Oden potentially

[quiet barn]

Event at E+ oden? Need time to put him in crystal. Will try then!

[dense swift]

give him call and if he can live long enogh you'll see some good results

[quiet barn]

What should I put on daimon then? Only 1 call atm

Need to do some PoT

[golden glacier]

Is there crimson snow guide

[dense swift]

the thing that makes a shield whne casted works fine for me

[quiet barn]

Okay ty

[loud flame]

should i change something ? wanna play it like this in PVP

[royal stag]

Do u have Nevanthi?

[loud flame]

not finished. myth+ i think

but silas isn't finished as well so.

[royal stag]

Alna, Payden, Nevanthi, Silas, AwSolise

[molten panther]

Need help pls 🙂

[loud flame]

no grezhul ? best duo alna & grezh

[fallen void]

Get Fereal to A

[quaint kiln]

In thoran cheese i can not get thoran to ult. He dies before full energy

[sour bolt]

do u have 5* call?

[quaint kiln]

Yes

[sour bolt]

ahow stage

[sour bolt]

is pippa tping?

[quaint kiln]

Yes

[sour bolt]

make sure u have all the right artifacts on and do some gear checks

[hoary crater]

Any Idea?

[short dune]

is there a better strat than “3 tenacity resist gamba” lol

ok llith, i’m certain that they are in the discord, they manip rng after complaint lmao

[quiet barn]

Fodder issue

[fallen void]

What Da hell use Awakaned Solise

[fallen void]

Damn

[hoary crater]

She just gets onetaped

[fallen void]

Oh

[sharp adder]

even in backline

[tawdry creek]

Whats the site that shows who used what lineup on each level in each chapter?

[torpid summit]

afk helper

[hoary crater]

Against the mage in 4 and Esteilda she can't do much. This are the stats

[tawdry creek]

Thanks

[hoary crater]

Oden is just for inital cc, Lyca for haste Rowan for the cart or Silas for healing orb if he can get it off and Mulan for tanking a bit

Every fight this chapter was not really close

[hoary crater]

This is with here, was just one try but don't really know how to protect her against Esteilda/ their skills

It's just daimon+ buffs and even he is at a level deficit

[fresh raft]

So I don’t know what heroes to use

I just pulled cecila

Current formations

[sour bolt]

read beginners guide in #classic-questions

[elfin rose]

Anyone able to help me out here at 29-52?
I tried the same lineups as in afkhelper with Brutus,Thoran,Daimon,Elronn and lyca but it just doesn't work... Im really stuck at this stage, the Athalia just destroys me

this was a recommended solution but this just doesnt work for me

[tulip dagger]

Copied the clear, artis on everybody correct and thoran right gear?
Yours is higher than the one in the solution, idk if it matters but he has a higher CBR, maybe taking less/not enough dmg? Or just a matter of hours of retries

[scarlet patio]

hard stuck rn

[tulip dagger]

Whats the issue? Daimon not getting ult off? Still dying? How does wutus perform?

[scarlet patio]

wutus is hit or miss on ult, daimon sometimes gets one ult off but usually dies quickly

could just be a retry disaster but figured id see if anyone had an idea

[tulip dagger]

Try normal brutus for better daimon protection, lyca would help with ults, try replacing thoran? He has outlives his tank phase and probably gets oneshot

[scarlet patio]

copy that ill try thanks!

[elfin rose]

@tulip dagger got my elronn to mythic and upgraded some gear, then it took like 30 retries but i got it

[tulip dagger]

Investments look fine and might just be a matter of retries
Ye not 100% on the lyca, she kinda wants dodge/gear for that

[tulip dagger]

If it works it works

[scarlet patio]

got it 🤙🏼 kept it same but used reg brutus and retrued like 50 times lol

and my brutus is only E, need more copies of his ass lol

[tulip dagger]

Works fine at e for quite some time

203 gives him max immunity time

[scarlet patio]

oh alright yeah hes 220 so should be good

and just like that 28 is finished lol swapping to reg brutus was a game changer thanks so much

[cunning sky]

Campaign team?

[molten panther]

mishka daimon asolise rowan silas i'd say ? if u have a oden for more cc it would be great

[lilac rover]

any idea how to do this? if i place abrutus and abaden at the bottom, the enemies saveas will just clean up my board, so thats why abrutus can tank it, i tried using nara to cc saveas but doesnt work well as I expected :v

[tulip dagger]

20 means +20 si and 3 furn not lvl lmao

[tulip dagger]

What the guy below said might work
Check =earlygame though and dont ascend anything but fodders to prevent messing up any more, mishka shouldnt be L and give thst daimon +20 si asap

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

Stop making that many L heroes and check guide above

[hearty geode]

Any tips what to do i am stuck in campain my second tank dies in 1hit

[obsidian aurora]

Dont have si10 on rowan yet tho so its much ahrder

[tulip dagger]

Check guide above, dont ascend randoms to L
Get daimon to +20 si
Try daimon/thoran
Lyca/desira/oden

[tulip dagger]

+30 is what makes him real good
Dont put daimon in estriladas charge route
Thoran/daimon
Lyca/rowan/arden

[obsidian aurora]

I should stop daimon at s20 right? I accidentally didnt check 1st and leveled his si to 26 so i wasted alot of emblems

[tulip dagger]

Right, stop for now

[zealous salmon]

Stuck at campaign atm, I think if I have more levels it should be easy but curious to know if there's anything I should do now. I also have this chest and 2 pick any hero chests, are there any heroes I should go for right now?

[runic bolt]

Read the pins here and in #classic-questions first and sort out your wishlist. Hero priorities and other useful info is under #faq-resources. For the chest, get scrolls as you have Nara. She's quite useful against annoying enemies like Isabella.

[zealous salmon]

So do you think I should just save my free heros for now? Or is there anyone else I should get to L+

One other thing- I can get 2 more copies of shemira for free from missions, is it worth using one of my free chests to have enough of her to get to ascended? Or should I wait to see if I pull another bc I don't have enough fodder?

[fallen void]

No

[lilac rover]

getting shemira to ascended wont help you much

[fallen void]

Not Shemira definitely not

Always Daimon he’s the Carry

[zealous salmon]

I can only get 2 daimon rn tho so it's a waste for now

Cause I need 4 overall right

[scarlet patio]

LMAO alrighty then

the chapter im on is making me wanna break my phone, the amount of heals is mind boggling

[steep vale]

Can't find it man

[silent kiln]

I need help with crimson snow stage 15, the pined guide doesnt work

[tulip dagger]

=earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

For starters + pinned guides in #classic-questions

[cloud cedar]

wheres the guide for crimson snow?

[tulip dagger]

Google crimson snow reddit
Comments have many solutions too

[silent kiln]

It didnt work for me for stage 15

[cloud cedar]

ty

[tulip dagger]

Comments

There are way more alternatives

[silent kiln]

Ill check again. Last i checked i dont remember many
Also thx for actually awnsering, ive been qsking people for the past 2 weeks and ur the only one who has responded so far

[tulip dagger]

Yeah this channel is kinda neglected by most people lol

Many people got problems with 15 so good chances to actually find a solution by now

[cloud cedar]

im stuck on this stage, any suggestions

[dense swift]

Nara/Ezizh in bottom left, Oden should be backlined to top left, Rowan can be where Oden is, Daimon middle.

[cloud cedar]

thanks, ill need to put nara on the temple

[granite salmon]

29-60, should be beatable but my team isn't dodging anything

[stray anchor]

Stuck on 29-60

[buoyant relic]

Tips for 13-36 pls

[nocturne bane]

have u tried switching oden with arden ? idk if oden can do anything for you rn

[buoyant relic]

i tried but he died too

[dense swift]

things to note:

• Thoran drops aggro when he dies, so estrilda will attack Daimon next I believe
• Silas in that position will spray the ground and heal Brutus... who probably can't stay alive anyways and instantly uses his immunity. That makes Silas kind of pointless to run.
• speaking of Brutus, he should stay alive long enough to tank the most painful ability on their team (hint it's a horse running down your characters)
• Rowan can frontline with his dodge and energy-burning ability, he also makes a better healer than most other characters at high deficit because he enters battle with the potion cart.
• Mirael and Estrilda are the main damage carries on their team, applying CC to either one would buy Daimon time

[buoyant relic]

Like this? But also oden and arden die rlly fast idk why

[dense swift]

that's not quite right but you're on the right track, remember that Thoran drops aggro when he dies and Oden is not gonna cast his ultimate, just his abilities

[buoyant relic]

So this?

Nvm not that didnt work uh

[full hound]

ugh I thought I was kind of lucky at first but I can’t make any good teams with this account it’s so annoying

[dense swift]

Brutus should be frontlined, Thoran can be backlined or replaced, Oden can be replaced by Nara

Dropping aggro means units will choose new attack targets and they can split focus which is bad

[dense swift]

Oden Silas Lyca Daimon Brutus

[buoyant relic]

Ok ty

[dense swift]

if that doesnt work, just keep in mind the basis of what is happening in that fight and make changes - I imagine mirael is wiping your team when she casts so put in someone who can stop/delay her, estrilda;s charge will kill whomever it hits so avoid her, etc.

[full hound]

someone recommended me a summon-themed comp if I pull Mishka is that any good? I think it would have Mishka as well as Nevanthi, Kalene, Brutus, etc

[dense swift]

lowkey need to have Daimon to be able to push deficit, so Im gonna say probably not

[peak pewter]

Optimal teamcomp from this list?

[dense swift]

Daimon Rowan lyca silas hogan

[peak pewter]

Hogan replacable by Lucius?

[dense swift]

No I'd probably keep Hogan tbh. Check the #faq-resources first link

[peak pewter]

kk ty

[plucky abyss]

Team comp? Stuck on 8-20

[mortal scroll]

Teamcomp ideas to beat 9-35 or i just need crystal 120lvl

[dense swift]

You guys need to post the stage too

[plucky abyss]

I have a choice chest and I’m thinking of using it on damien but idk if I should wait off on it or just do it

Cause I can get him up to a L but I would have to sac either oden or thoran, guess I could sac fodder but idk if that’s a good idea

[dense swift]

Never use 4 skill for ascension, only 3 skill heroes

[plucky abyss]

Ok

[plucky abyss]

Who should I use?

[dense swift]

post the stage

[plucky abyss]

8-20

[dense swift]

no

[plucky abyss]

?

[dense swift]

a screenshot of what you're facing in the stage and what you're using, scroll up to see how other people post it

[buoyant relic]

I just unlocked beast rearing, which beasts should i put on my wishlist? I don't see anything on the beginners guide about beasts

[dense swift]

winged owl something something either way you won't be using it for a while because dreary ball will be OP till late game

[next stirrup]

owl, lion, blade

[buoyant relic]

ok tysm

so even if i get the owl i just focus on lvling up the dreary ball right?

the owl doesnt use any materials tho i think cuz it just says lvl up

[dense swift]

you don't focus on leveling it per se - pets take copies of themselves to level, as you beat campaign you'll get copies of the ball but that's it

[buoyant relic]

oh ok got it

[next stirrup]

yeah and the blue pets you always get from summoning, just like fodder

[plucky abyss]

Current team is scuffed

[plucky abyss]

i need help with 8-20

[sweet trail]

I used scarlet as my carry and got threw

[buoyant relic]

15-32 lineup tips?

[dense swift]

big tip is that Oden is a necessity here to stack Golus/Estrilda on one side so Daimon is bought time, other than that Isa needs to be cc'd

[buoyant relic]

oh ok ty

[dense swift]

probably restart and look for more daimon copies honestly, having a single E copy is gonna be rough

if you wanna continue though, run Daimon in your comp as your carry instead of Mirael, and run Eironn to pull everything into one spot to buy Daimon time. can swap oden with Pippa I guess? refer back to the 1st sentence in this message sadly

[plucky abyss]

rip

im not getting lucky with daimon at all

do you think its too late to reset or should i just reset?

[next stirrup]

definitely not too late, but also not necessary imo

[plucky abyss]

yeah, i have not been able to get daimon barely at all

[dense swift]

it's certainly not too late, with a well-rolled account you can hit 8-20 in a single day's worth of play, but you dont have to reset, just need to save factional scrolls for GB and be content with pushing campaign a little slower

[buoyant relic]

I used this but it didnt work, am i missing smth?

[dense swift]

you need something to cc Isa (nara pref, you got a chapter chest with her in it at one point), and also you need to check what Oden is doing in fights: if he's throwing Golus in the same row as Estrilda, you need to move Daimon and sac Oden into that row

[buoyant relic]

oh ok got it

wait i think i accidently alr used that chapter chest is there another option besides nara?

[quasi hazel]

Any recommendation on what to use?

[dense swift]

Ezizh, Tasi, Eironn can all do something similar, so can Oden but you'll want to haste him and add call to him to hope he lives

[dense swift]

Thoran Daimon Fearel AwTalene Oden

If Fearel dies without doing anything put in Lyca

[plucky abyss]

welp, i already pulled daimon, scarlet, oden, mishka, and raku

[quasi hazel]

Thanks, it worked

[gray berry]

Can someone help with this stage? Been rolling since pulling Belinda and Thane, but now just stuck

[dense swift]

Switch Daimon and Thane

[buoyant relic]

I tried putting oden in a bunch of places but i kept losing ;;;

[dense swift]

that stage is really hard, try running arden instead of Oden for this one, frontlining Rowan instead of Thoran, and Lyca for haste

[buoyant relic]

ill try

wouldnt the celestial twins be better for haste tho cuz alot of guides say to pull for them first in the stargazing thing or smth, or is lyca better than them?

[dense swift]

lyca is better she instantly casts as she comes into battle, twins have to ramp and they also die just as fast as anything else

[buoyant relic]

oh ic got it

[buoyant relic]

Didnt work :( do i need to switch arden and lyca? also rowan died rlly fast

[dense swift]

you might just have to AFK and wait, just try around with stuff but that stage is meant to be incredibly difficult

you should swap rowan and brutus though, and swap daimon and arden

[buoyant relic]

oh ok

[dense swift]

shemira deals magic based damage and rowan can't rely on dodge to escape from that

[buoyant relic]

shld i hire a dim hero like ainz for this stage? i have enough coin things

[dense swift]

dimensionals are tied to your chars so he'd only be as strong as whomever you tie him to - aka woefully underleveled

[rain pike]

Thoran brutus ferael eironn daimon
Dims are really weak without lots of investment, dont garrison, u'll feel disappointed

[buoyant relic]

oh ok

[vale mesa]

team ideas?

[buoyant relic]

what do i do if i have no eironn

[rain pike]

Do you put eironn on wishlist

[buoyant relic]

yes

[rain pike]

use oden maybe

[buoyant relic]

ok

[buoyant relic]

ur a lifesaver tysm

[rain pike]

[elfin rose]

Hey guys I need help here. What would be the best lineup for this stage?

[hollow quiver]

Help

[median orbit]

any ideas how to beat this

[wild sigil]

Lookin at what u have I’d go Damien and Brutus in the front, raku slot 3 with Rosa one slot five linked to him and roan slot 4

[clear karma]

Hi, is my lineup okay?

[fickle forum]

No

Don't use ainz without albedo, that's first thing

Second thing, show herobox

[nimble condor]

is my lineup good, started playing like a week ago

[sand breach]

Im at 37-28 can someone help me put 5 teams together that can help me push?

[fickle forum]

Any ideas? All replays are higher levels (done)

[stark iron]

any comp for this? i tried some but they always get one shoted

[sharp adder]

@stark iron have you tried desira?

@fickle forum Grez,daimon,oden,silas,fearel

[stark iron]

nop

[sharp adder]

merc a strong desira and see how it goes and if it doesnt work try afkhelper

[ember steppe]

need help with a fourth team

my others look like this, would also like suggestions with my current teams

[fickle forum]

Made it already but thanks

[sharp adder]

k

[hoary crater]

Any Idea how to counter the fereal fear?

[mortal scroll]

I need some help

[mortal scroll]

Nwm trying over and over again works

[vestal heron]

Hello, just wondering what's the best I lineup for guild bosses for under chapter 25, assuming all hero at E+ with L+ gear with main damage dealer gear mistic+ without faction bonus

[ocean needle]

Anyone know how to improve thoran rng? I'm still getting used to using him.

[quiet barn]

Any tips?

[fallen void]

Maybe Daimon in the Background and Brutus in front

[steady scroll]

I'd remove Ezizh and put thoran in frontline, Deimon behind brutus

[quiet barn]

Fawkes is just trapping daimon untill the whole team is dead. Then daimon gets onetapped when comming out of the coffin

[steady scroll]

when I had such issue i was restarting the battle till deimon resisted fawkes xd

[quiet barn]

Oh okay pray for big rng then haha, thanks

[steady scroll]

assuming u have some tenacity on deimon ;p

[quiet barn]

Oh

No i dont. Sadge. What gives tenacity?

[steady scroll]

well if your tenacity is greater than the enemy's insight then you are more likely to resist debuff he tries to put on u
my deimon often resist fawkes and tasi CC

[quiet barn]

What sources grant tenacity? Dont seem to see it on gear

[steady scroll]

engraving for example

[quiet barn]

Ah rip

[steady scroll]

since deimon is my carry, got me into chapter 30 and isnt even about to stop on doing then I didn't hestitate into investing on gravering

[quiet barn]

I dont have him 1* though :/

[steady scroll]

oh

[quiet barn]

I’ve been told to remove him from WL after A

[steady scroll]

then my advice would be that everytime u find any chapter hard, use CC heroes. Tasi/ferael/Eironn/Nara

[steady scroll]

i maxed him out before removing from WL and he pays off

[quiet barn]

Once i get the fodder I’ll get fereal to A. Just got my 8th copy today

[next stirrup]

don't engrave daimon

[cloud cedar]

how should i beat this

[steady scroll]

use normal brutus instead of awakened (longer immunity) so Deimon can be safe longer. in case it wasn't enough put Estrilda instead of Lyca or Oden (find out whats better for your team. also work towards faction bonuses and don't waste your resources into shemira

[cloud cedar]

figured it out, thanks

[midnight bobcat]

Help me please

[steady scroll]

well overall u have weak team, try to swap Nevathi for aSolise then Ezizh for some wilder so u have some faction bonus. no idea what u have there so u gotta figure it out on your own. Shemira is overall not so good anymore

[low acorn]

Anyhelp?

[dense swift]

Lyca

Brutus
Nara/Ezizh/Eironn
Rowan
Daimon

[fallen void]

Brutus in Front Off Daimon, And Put awakened Belind and Rowan in

[sand breach]

Im at 37-28 can someone help me put 5 teams together that can help me push? Im some tip on What i sould Get in 30+

[covert eagle]

Feel like i need a miracle to beat this stage

[wheat phoenix]

Daimon behind Brutus

[dense swift]

frontline Rowan in Brutus' current spot, put Brutus in Daimon's spot, run Oden in Rowan's spot, put Daimon in Belinda's spot

[rose tundra]

Can i get some help making some teams to beat it anything i tried didnt work

[wheat phoenix]

Use afk helper, with that deficit you can just brute force with random teams

[inland apex]

anything i should change?

[wooden cove]

I’ve haven’t played this game in a long time due to personal stuff outside of it but can I get someone’s opinion or recommendation on team build?

This is what I’m running with currently

[elfin rose]

Pls help me out here i tried it like 100 times with my standard Brutus Thoran Daimon Rowan Odin lineup but it just doesn't work...

[simple wyvern]

Who's a good support for Daimon on a new acc

[rose tundra]

I tried...didnt work

Or more safe to say it doesnt work i tried 2-3 teams from afkhelper all around my lvl range

[fickle thistle]

3 formations for Isle of Gold?

[balmy sorrel]

Hi. Line up for Wrizz and Soren using Awakened Belinda?

[timber marlin]

trying to get past chapter ten. any suggestions?

[next stirrup]

read the guides

[earnest viper]

Been stuck on this stage the past two days. They seem to do an insane amount of damage and everyone dies except Daimon in the first five seconds and Daimon follows shortly after. Not sure how to tackle this with the CC characters I have. Plz help ty

[dense swift]

you should've gotten a chest that had the option to pick Nara, did you already use it?

[nimble condor]

is this good?

[earnest viper]

I think so which chest would that be

Would nara save the situation ?

[plucky abyss]

Current team is scuffed

I’ve been using Daimon and scarlet as carry

[plucky abyss]

Need help with 7-24

[nimble condor]

i’m stuck at 11-28 help

[dense swift]

post your whole box

[dense swift]

front line options are daimon, brutus, thoran, mishka, rowan
back line options are daimon, rowan, lyca, oden, silas, arden, nara, eironn, ezizh, fearel

make something work

[nimble condor]

there

[dense swift]

Lyca

Asolise
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

try

[nimble condor]

didn’t work

[dense swift]

swap brutus and asolise

[cunning sky]

Help

[dense swift]

Daimon

Asolise
Rowan
Thoran/Mishka/Brutus
Oden/Fearel/Lyca/Eironn

[royal flame]

Can someone help me?

[rugged lichen]

Hello. Need some advice: have to pick 1 from Saveas and Golus and 1 from Niru and Silvina to be in my main team along with Miral Hogan Arden. Who to chose please?

[dense swift]

#1041161459935223828 message

👍

[rugged lichen]

I know that guide. So that is the best lineup in the beginning , is good to follow?

[dense swift]

You will not really run the fodder heroes in your team and instead use them for ascension fodder/resonance, so yeah it's fine. you only use them if you're lacking something better in the slot, other than Arden who has good CC

[rugged lichen]

Thanks 👍

[hollow quiver]

Help

[cosmic folio]

Who is better healer, palmer or silas?

[dense swift]

different roles but palmer is better late for the most part, silas is better early I believe

[cosmic folio]

I am new, so I better use Silas instead. Thank you

[pale kettle]

Pretty good summons for GB account?

[hard ferry]

Hi, I really need help, could you help me create a good team to fight Wrizz with what I have please? I often borrow Scarlet, can you help me?

Lol I just dropped Brutus awakened, you can count it in my list. ^^

[true heath]

Hi, could you please create me a good team for campaign

[paper minnow]

Rosa
Scarlet
Rowan/mortas
Grez
Twins

[paper minnow]

I recommend reading the beginners guide. For now u can go with:
Silas
Saurus
Rowan
Sonya/titus
Arden/rosa

[true heath]

thank you ❤️

[hard ferry]

Like this?

[wooden orchid]

rosa where rowan is scarlet where rosa is rowan where grez is grez where scarlet is

[paper minnow]

Put rowan middle back. And put grez together with scarlet frontline.

[wooden orchid]

he literally formatted it for you

[hard ferry]

Like this?

[wooden orchid]

swap twins and scarlet

put grez where scarlet is

[paper minnow]

Swap grez and rosa

[hard ferry]

sorry my english is bad ^^

[paper minnow]

U need grez and rosa in frontline so twins can link them.

[hard ferry]

oh ok ok Like this?

[wooden orchid]

[paper minnow]

Swap rosa and scarlet.

[hard ferry]

rosa in backlane ?

[paper minnow]

My bad. I typed the wrong thing lol

[paper minnow]

Yes rosa backline. Scarlet and grez front line.

[hard ferry]

ok, this item is correct ?

i have this

[paper minnow]

Yes that is correct.

[hard ferry]

good ty dude

this pet is okay ?

i have a record ty guys

[midnight bobcat]

Well thanks 4 nothing I guess

[elfin rose]

Pls help, everyone just dies so fast except Daimon

[vague mortar]

Old account you should restart if you want to compete in ts, you could get back to chap 30 in a month

[cunning sky]

Campaign team?

[slow ivy]

I get demolished, what can i do ?

[pale kettle]

Do you own Ferael, Nara, Athalia or Fawkes? Might have to put Arden on the crystal otherwise

[slow ivy]

I have ferael Nara only

[pale kettle]

Ok can copy that screenshot then. Just put Thoran instead of Estrilda or something

[slow ivy]

Nop

[pale kettle]

Swap Daimon and Nara slots and Thoran and Brutus slots

[scarlet patio]

tried a couple different combos this one has gotten me closest, athalia just one shots everyone any ideas

[steady scroll]

Hmm I've done it with 240 deimon and all others 220-200. I always put Lyca in front of Athalia. Put daemon opposite to shemira, she is the problem there so u wanna kill her asap. U may restart stages few times if Deimon eats every stun from estrilda

[brittle frigate]

I beg someone help me out, I’m stuck on 7-2 and I can’t get past it because of the gunman on the top right

[cobalt owl]

Anyone has idea how to beat it? 🤔🙏

[scarlet patio]

ill give that a shot thanks!

[scarlet patio]

finally got it after like 150 attempts lol

freezing estrilda actually helped alot

[steady scroll]

gib more love to your main carry (Deimon) and level him as much as u can, then lvl up the rest just to extend Deimon's lvl. the only time u gotta lvl all to same lvl is on 240 to boost resonating crystal 😛
For the stage, I'd give a shot with Eironn on the middle backline and Lyca instead of Nara. If u keep failing with that then put Tasi instead Lyca

[steady scroll]

I see you have Eironn so put him on top backline (in front of gunman) remove Nemora (lvl 1 wont help u at all) For the future, you gotta pick your main carry and boost him so he can carry your campaign. I'd highly recommend Deimon which is one of the best carries and THE BEST considering F2P aspect 🙂 also important is to keep your faction bonus ( top left corner of your screen) it helps a lot

[steady scroll]

pick stronger tank (I'd go with thoran) and swap the weaker for the normal Brutus (Deimon needs time to start spaming his ultimate and brutus is best to give him cover). then I personally would swap Oden with ferael (your carry is Deimon so u don't need 2nd one and Ferael brings tons of CC into the battlefield) then I'd also swap Rowan for Lyca/Eironn/Tasi/Nara (speed boost or in more difficult stages CC)

[scarlet patio]

29 = ✅

[brittle frigate]

Tyvm, he acc helped... I finally am past the friggin boss fight lmao

[steady scroll]

welcome 😉 keep in mind to focus on 1 carry. you will have bigger impact if u lvl up 1 hero than 5 at once
below I'll put my team that I'm using for example. 4 core heroes and 1 flex depending of situation

[pale kettle]

I'm stuckkkk

I'm still cleaning up my early game mistakes

So what team should i use

No

I spent money on this acc.
Also I have like 4 other accs

I didn't ask to be told yo restart. I asked for a team

[old token]

youre asking in #classic-questions and #lineup-help where people are generally minmaxxing or efficiency-minded

the answer youre getting is not inappropriate

[pale kettle]

Yh I just want to know a team. I don't want to be "perfect on arena leaderboard" I just want o be able to progress

Ty

[tulip dagger]

Ch 11 with daimon max lvl carry should be able to go front tbh

[raven egret]

Am I doing something wrong here? I can’t get past 7.7m

[sour dawn]

Which team should i use? I got a Eluard too

[rain tusk]

I beg you for some advice and help

[dull kiln]

Should I replace somebody in this formation with Awakened Baden??

[steady scroll]

if Alna and Grezhul don't have 9 furnitures you will see them dying pretty fast

[dull kiln]

Oh gotcha gotcha
Thank you 🙏

[sour dawn]

help plz

[steady scroll]

campaign wise I'd recommend brutus and thoran as a frontline. Keep your Deimon 40 lvls ahead till u hit 240 lvl and you should be fine. Of course work on Alna and Grez cuz they are awesome in the late game

[steady scroll]

bro just scroll up, plenty of advices were given about heroes similar or the same you have 😉

[sour dawn]

sorry, i cant find any, but i guess grez have to be on my team

[steady scroll]

here @sour dawn

you can also follow that guide.

[sour dawn]

i guess i will use grez, daimon, oden, silas and the one that revives, is this a good team?

[plucky abyss]

My team building sucks, stuck on 7-36

[lilac rover]

try to use oden in your team instead of scarlet

[lilac rover]

and try out different positions where you put daimon behind mishka, or talene at the front and so on

guys help me out pls, this formation is the best one so far but never succeed, since at the end this brutus survives and 1shot my frontliners, if lucky tasi will be alive still but she would also die from that fidget spinner attack

nvm just got unlucky, cleared. :v

[rose tundra]

Can i get some help with this pls

[steady scroll]

look at your lvl.. you did spread resources over 5 heroes at once. boost your carry, 1 good hero is better than 5 average.

hero wise you don't have much choice, for now lvl up Brutus so he will carry you further. set your wishlist properly and focus faction scrolls on graveborns

[short dune]

couldn’t find good setup to make daimon chain ults (gets interrupted by cc). afk helper didn’t really help either

[steady scroll]

did u ever swap positions ? 😛

[steady scroll]

your current setup honestly makes no sense at all. Nara vs tasi does nothing so put her in the middle against Nemora, Set Deimon in the top backline and brutus in front of him. Gorvo wont interrupt him anymore and if tasi does, just redo the battle until u see Deimon resists Tasi 🙂

[short dune]

nara buys time against tasi, but maybe I should roll the 3 tenacity resist gamba lol

actually I have a sample replay

[steady scroll]

the thing is that if u dont have to pull anything with nara etc then you better use other hero otherwise you lose potential

[short dune]

oden went on a god run but still insufficient

[steady scroll]

in that setup I wouldn't go for nara but rather ferael and silas

[short dune]

ferael not fast enough to interrupt tasi before banish

[steady scroll]

u wont interrupt the banish, the only way is to use heroes like eironn or athalia but they have to 1shot her

[short dune]

my oden can eat the banish, so maybe that’s the best bet I have currently

[steady scroll]

honestly that may be an issue

[short dune]

this is required to let oden eat banish

if I full gear him, daimon will take the banish

[steady scroll]

and my deimon resists the banish

[short dune]

you got engraving, which gives TY

[steady scroll]

but to be honest that stage doesn't require you to pull anything. I noticed u have ascended scarlet so maybe try with Brutus Thoran Deimon Scarlet Rowan
and Indeed, i did invest in my carry 😛

[short dune]

afk helper clears do use eironn to grab everyone for energy gain (and it also helped oden a bit), but let me try scarlet, did not even consider her

[steady scroll]

tbh i havent been using Oden for long time

i prefer silas and ferael on the backline

[short dune]

nvm scarlet does like 0 damage

she gets a single volley of ult and perishes (which is pretty normal lol)

[steady scroll]

maybe it will help you, thats my standard setup 4 cores and middle fill that I set depending of situation

[short dune]

I might merc tomorrow and try to run the rest of 29 on my own, but not so certain about my chances (need to get to 30 before guild shop reset, or misty valley reset)

wait, this is getting closer to victory somehow, I swear I tried this before lol

[steady scroll]

thats how I'd setup my heroes against this formation

Gorvo is crazy cc dealer so u want to hold him meanwhile killing that damn catgirl and nemora

[short dune]

daimon top is on average a bit closer, but oden needs to survive (and daimon cannot kill the catgirl or goat girl lol)

he’s close to killing one of them though

[steady scroll]

try using my formation, oden is not necessary
1 carry is enough and its Deimon, give Oden gear to support so he boost Deimon much better

[short dune]

my ferael at E+ lol, might be missing functionality

(and also he gets squished by turtle, and daimon gets banished)

[short dune]

update: I cheesed through lmao. The feeling of the first functional cheese is really something. Took like 3 tries of cheese too

[steady scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnamflashback-gif-7780922

[short dune]

(not suitable for hampter consumption)

[sour dawn]

grez, daimon, oden, silas and the one that revives, is this a good team?

[steady scroll]

assuming Grez is 9/9 furniture then yes

[sour dawn]

what is furniture?

[steady scroll]

something u unlock after ascending hero

[sour dawn]

oh yeah also, my grez dont seems strong, he gets strong later? With that furniture

[steady scroll]

it makes him tanky as hell, without that will die pretty quick

[sour dawn]

nice

[lavish hinge]

Stage 21 crimson snow help me out

[sharp crown]

Hello everybody. Started anew and this is what I got. What is a good comp I can use to get me through the early stages of the game? Thanks in advance.

[short dune]

either athane or abaden should function as a nice enough carry early, but eventually you want 3 more daimons for the M daimon carry. set wishlist and see what you get after many pulls

[sharp crown]

Would Rosa be a good support for a thane?

[clever island]

🌚

[short dune]

athane probably moves around in the enemy’s lines too much for rosa to keep up (she will die)

[sharp crown]

Oh right there is that

Thanks

[short dune]

can I see your hero box?

in the meantime, try: brutus, lucius, daimon, rowan, lyca (swap to nara if you have her, vine man very annoying).

need multiple runs due to musician multitarget rng

[livid stag]

.

[silent kiln]

i have been stuck on crimson snow stage 15 for 3 weeks, the pined guide doesnt work, none of the formations work due to me missing most hyperions, celestials and dimensionals, i could really use some help

[short dune]

in this case, try athalia (celestial diving man) in position 5 to deal with the vine person

[clever island]

okie

also what pets/beasts are good? or do they not matter all that much

[short dune]

they matter quite a bit, but at this point, you just use the black ball. consult other people for beast grounds wishlist advice

[clever island]

okie ty

[pale kettle]

I cleared with mishka, asolise, oden, sylas and nevanthi. Used tufty ears lvl 7. First try clear

[dense swift]

you can always tell if someone plays league if they typo silas to sylas

[pale kettle]

Realized that just now, lol

If u didn't tell me I would never know his correct name

[fast ferry]

can I have some help with creating three teams for campaign?

[north cape]

hello im a new player! im wondering what team would make for a good pvp and what team would make for a good pve team

[dense swift]

ignore pvp for now, focus only on PVE. focus on Daimon, do not ascend more heroes to L, level your fodder about 20 levels behind Daimon for the cyrstal. also read these guides:

#faq-resources message
#classic-questions message

if something is unclear after reading the beginner's info on both posts, feel free to ask

[rose tundra]

Hey can i get some help with lineups

[slate valve]

Any help on mage lineup aposlte of grudges 2 teams?

[silent kiln]

holy shit i wanna hug you

thank you SO MUCH

fun fact: i have asolise but not normal solise

[covert sigil]

does anyone have another lineup for crimson snow stage 12?

nvm cleared it

[covert sigil]

change rowan to arden

[hollow quiver]

Same result i tried before
Idk why all my team just dies too fast

[covert sigil]

stats

[covert sigil]

show me post battle statistics and video

[hollow quiver]

I tried this formation, the best one out

[covert sigil]

try using nara, oden, lyca

[covert sigil]

use this at the back

[hollow quiver]

Bad too, my daimon need to be in back cuz the enemy killing her fast

[covert sigil]

switch daimon and lyca

[hollow quiver]

Same result need a tank in front

I think i should not be in this stage the trial hero was carrying me and now without her im struggling

[covert sigil]

build ur daimon to m first so he can tank, get him to si20

[hollow quiver]

saying that easier than doing it

[covert sigil]

did u already redeem the new code?

[hollow quiver]

What is it

[covert sigil]

𝐫𝐲𝐱𝟖𝐮𝐞𝟐𝐳𝐡𝐮 10 stargazer, 10 faction scrolls, 1 purple stone thingy

[hollow quiver]

He’s good ?

[covert sigil]

super good. I wanna say curse words to you for getting an awakened ezizh :>>> he doesnt need to be ascended

[covert sigil]

for campaign only, he is helpful. I HATE YOU. SHOULDN'T HAVE TOLD U 😠

[hollow quiver]

your code is lucky

[covert sigil]

resonate him, he is helpful, he prevents enemies from using ultimate

[hollow quiver]

Sry but what resonate mean

[covert sigil]

the crystal, so u can level him also

[hollow quiver]

What formation should i use now

[covert sigil]

he is a good support but u need a sturdy daimon so u wait until u get si20 daimon :3

[hollow quiver]

Si you mean this ?

[covert sigil]

yes, i mean that. save ur emblems for daimon

[hollow quiver]

Resetting hero will reset the Si too ?

[covert sigil]

nope, just save ur remaining emblems, u can get also by summoning heroes and events

[hollow quiver]

Ok, thx buddy

[hollow quiver]

i reached stage 40

[covert sigil]

nice

[hollow quiver]

Any ideas ?

[covert sigil]

daimon still getting 1 shot front?

[hollow quiver]

He stands a little but no ult

[covert sigil]

palmer not helping right? use nara instead

nara instead of palmer and try rowan/thoran instead of vedan

[hollow quiver]

The best result for now

[covert sigil]

gotta upgrade thar daimon

[hollow quiver]

i only need one elite copy and my luck is shit

[covert sigil]

been there many times. Try finding any events/gamemode u can still do something

[true kernel]

any tips for this

[covert sigil]

front: brutus, daimon( if cant sustain switch positions)
back: oden, ferael, nara

[true kernel]

okie

[hollow quiver]

The most unexpected formation ever

Ezizh carryyyyyy

[willow badge]

Umm @quasi hazel

[covert sigil]

nice

[half blaze]

Hey guys, I’m new to the game and i’ve got stuck in chapter 11, can you help me?

[covert sigil]

show stage and heroes

[half blaze]

i read daimon is really good so i’ve been upgrading it

[willow badge]

Hi. Should I fodder shemira?

[half blaze]

also sorry for the broken english

[hollow quiver]

#classic-questions

[willow badge]

Oh sorry.

[covert sigil]

Frotn: Daimon, Mishka
Back: Lyca, Eironn, Silas,

P.S. Good luck ascending heroes, too many L 🥲

[half blaze]

i’m gonna really need luck, spending money is a big issue when you’re from brazil 🫠

[covert sigil]

nope, u did it wrong, u should let 4 skilled heroes stay at e+ until u have 8/8 copies. not randomly ascend them to legendary

[half blaze]

so I f myself

[willow badge]

That was the biggest mistake I did on my first account. 🥲

[covert sigil]

u did.

[half blaze]

and so did I 😀

[covert sigil]

u should read =earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[covert sigil]

wishlist is outdated.

[half blaze]

now that i know that i don’t know nothing, how bad will this affect my progression?

[willow badge]

You can restart again if you want to.

[covert sigil]

u ascended good heroes, and it really is gonna affect u because u might be low on fodders but u can still do that just focus on one hero per faction until they reach Ascended. The only hero thay is not worth is safiya

[covert sigil]

i also went for doing l directly but in my case, i got all the copies i needed and fodders. U can still go in with this, focus on daimon(ascended,si20) Rowan(Mythic tier, si30).

[half blaze]

okay, i’ll do it

[covert sigil]

just dont do the same mistake. Wait until u get 8/8 copies

also here =ascension101

[cloud nexus]

Priorities for Hero Ascension

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360

[stark iron]

anyone has a lineup for this without merlin? stage 21 btw

[half blaze]

alright

[hollow quiver]

Im struggling here

Stage 8 in crimson snow

[tight bear]

I'm at 11-20, am I just stuck until I can get my resonating crystal to like 140?

What I have been using and what I have, I do have an open spot in the resonating crystal. Currently at 120 while I get a ton of dust

[pale kettle]

(I'm correcting my mistakes)
I'm stuckkkkkkk

[hollow quiver]

Help ?

[plucky abyss]

I brute forced my way up to 8-16 but now I’m stuck, oden dies too fast, mishka gets no damage off

[next stirrup]

try arden instead of oden

wilder row 2 column 2

[dense swift]

post stage

[dense swift]

try rowan instead of the bats guy, swap ezizh with daimon, and swap palmer for lyca

[hollow quiver]

Actual worked you make me pass ch 15

[north cape]

hey! i read the guides, pivoted my stuff into daimon and i think i got a pretty good team going but im curious of there is any optimization to be made. Im not good with all the names yet, there are so many characters. but my team currently consists of the first 3 guys from the first row. and then the first 2 from the second row. would you say that works? or am i missing something trivial

[dense swift]

for where you are in the game right now that should work fine, at some point you will want to level the fodders (3-skill heroes) to use as the resonating crystal's pentagram, and resonate your 4-skill heroes with them so you have a more flexible roster of 4-skill. make sure your wishlist is set up correctly too

the other heroes you will likely use before ch 25 are Nara, Eironn, Oden, Thoran, Arden and there's prob more I'm forgetting but you're doing good

and yes it's ok to reset the 4-skill heroes you have leveled who are not Daimon aka rowan, silas, rosalina, fearel and brutus and instead pump their levels into a core 3-skill team such as golus, hogan, arden and silvia

[plucky abyss]

should i replace my mishka?

[north cape]

gotcha! i also saw that if i upgrade my daimon one more time i get acces to a signature weapon for him. is that worth doing so? thanks for the help

[raven egret]

What’s a good way to strengthen this line up? I use Ainz comp, Luc pull, alna/gb, wilder team, and this. This one is always the worst and fails all the time. Really just anything with scarlet that works super well

[dense swift]

yes 100% you want the signature weapon, level it to +20 and do not go +30. after that you want to focus on rowan's signature to +30

[steady scroll]

brutus thoran deimon rowan scarlet ?

[brittle frigate]

I’ve got these first 3 heroes that I can ascent to legendary. Which one should I ascend?

[next stirrup]

none
read the guides in #classic-questions

[versed maple]

Hey, this is my box, and I'm really struggling with this stage, any ideas?

[dense swift]

Doesn't look like you need ezizh there, move Lyca to bottom left and put Oden in middle? If that doesn't work try moving Brutus to lower frontline and add Rowan in upper frontline

[rose tundra]

Can i get some help with this pls

[copper coral]

I can't go past this. I really need help. These are the 2 teams I used

[verbal grotto]

How do I beat this, pippa keeps surging and thoran dies first

I already tried taking off her gear

[steady scroll]

maybe Eironn in the middle ?

[verbal grotto]

It’s 42-40 btw

[median orbit]

Stuck on this part of burning woods, both are level 300

[verbal grotto]

Damn this level is so as

[zenith knot]

Garrison Lucy

[lavish hinge]

Stage 21 crimson snow help me out

[steady scroll]

as far as I researched u gotta need 12 lion

[lavish hinge]

well you don't need it, that's just the easy way

[steady scroll]

Stage 21
Variation one

Awakened Phoenix
Awakened Brutus
Ezizh
Albedo
Joan of Arc
Talismane

Variation two

Abaden
Alna
Desira
Awakened Solise
Nevanthi
Firebreather

[lavish hinge]

What's awakened phoenix

[steady scroll]

talene i assume

[lavish hinge]

Uhh yea that doesn't work man

[full hound]

I’m very new to the game idk who to build

ig for whatever is the best content to build for so probably like story progression unless it’s better to prioritize something else

[lavish hinge]

Daimon

[full hound]

well yes Ive been told him but who else

I only have 1 copy of him as well so

[toxic island]

check in questions, pinned comments, they have a beginner guide

[full hound]

do you guys think this would work? I’m using heroes that people say are good but idk if there’s enough damage or if I should use a second tank or what

[steady scroll]

u have good heroes but not using them properly so they don't work

replace Silas with Brutus and put solise in front with Daimon, solise on backline

[steady scroll]

you are still on the beginning so just set up your wishlist properly and be patient cuz need more heroes. focus on Daimon, he will carry u for looooong time

[steady scroll]

try that one mate, seems to be 2 star guaranteed

[exotic pewter]

need some help with this

[steady scroll]

stage 11 I assume, that lineup works till 22

[exotic pewter]

who can I replace the first slot for

[steady scroll]

u can swap Ezizh for Desira

[covert sigil]

it works until 22? and also what level tuffy ears?

[steady scroll]

i did it with lvl 9 fluffy, however had to repeat stage 17 like 2-3 times
sometimes its RNG

[covert sigil]

ill try, with desira. thanks

[exotic pewter]

my fluffy isnt lvl 9 unfortunately lol not working for me atm

nvm, one more try and it worked well, thanks

[steady scroll]

well it happens u gotta repeat but don't do more than 3-4 tries per stage

[exotic pewter]

so far on 12

[willow badge]

Need help guys.

[uneven flax]

Help me please who do I use as carry, support and tank

[astral dragon]

So I got athane and figured he could help carry in lb tower but I only have 1 open rc slot at the moment and Im not entirely sure if he would be worth putting in so I manually leveled to gage his worth. While he is only lvl 140, im only in the 60s on tower and hes died every stage. He has all mythic gear equipped so would lvl 160 really even do anything for him?

[cunning monolith]

should i use fodder heroes on my line up for early game

[steady scroll]

u got quite lucky with Khazard I see. I'd use Brutus, Thoran, Daimon, Khazard, Ferael

[steady scroll]

basically nothing gonna work for you if falls behind with levels. first take care of resonating crystal (proper ascending 5 heroes where 1 (your carry) should be 40 lvls ahead)

[astral dragon]

Yes as I explained I manually leveled him because I wasn't sure if he would be worth taking up a slot. My heros are all 160 in the rc and my carry daimon is 40 levels ahead at 200

i already knew all that, my question was is athane worth the extra 20 levels?

[steady scroll]

answering your question... well in my case Thane carries my tower (160floor) since I lack on lightbringer heroes. But since you got mythic scarlet I'd rather focus on her instead of aThane which is kinda hard to set up. (his skills require mythic/e30/furnitures to unlock) which gonna take u lot of time if you're f2p

no, I wouldn't bother with slot for him when having mythic scarlet.

[astral dragon]

yea as you can see in the screenshot my lbs are lacking most are manually leveled

I need to spend a few days gathering the honey combs to open more slots luckily I reached 22 so it should go quicker

[uneven flax]

Grr I haven’t pulled daimon or thoran

[steady scroll]

until lvl100-140 u can use wukong as carry since he is the best in that lvl cap but becomes useless after that

[uneven flax]

Alr ty

[steady scroll]

any faction scrolls keep and use on graveborns

after u ascent 6 prio heroes then u swap for wilders but its basically at late mid-early late game

[hollow quiver]

Help

[pale kettle]

estrilda, awezizh, oden, vedan, daimon

but your daimon is too behind

you're kinda f*cked

[short dune]

team dies to rapid burst; daimon appears to need to resist mehira at least once with 3 TY (or dies to gunner girl in opening). afkhelper not so helpful, any way to deal with this?

[dense swift]

disagree with the other person, I think you can still push although you will want to probably save factional for GB and look for mythic daimon or you will be struggling pushing to 20

my suggestion is

Daimon

Rowan
Oden
Thoran
Lyca

check where Oden drops and position Daimon away from Ogi, can swap Lyca and Oden and put in Ezizh if somehow Lyca is doing highest dmg to your team

[dense swift]

try swapping Oden for Nara in center backline, Thoran to where Oden is currently, and Rowan to where Thoran is currently

[short dune]

nara doesn’t prevent mehira from getting multiple lives, and daimon gets killed immediately through 2 barricades

[dense swift]

e203?

[short dune]

lemme try this, can I see arti setups?

[short dune]

who are you referring to?

[old token]

i didnt take a screenshot of artis unfortunately; i know for sure call was on daimon

[short dune]

brb need to do something else, thanks for ideas

[steady scroll]

imao... well done

[hollow quiver]

lets dont talk about that

[steady scroll]

XDDDD

i hope u at least used just 2 copies of daimon + fodders xd
not the end of the world

[covert sigil]

same stage

[hollow quiver]

I have 1 elite copy and fodders i just need 1 more copy

[jovial frigate]

Need some help i just get one shoted

[covert sigil]

switch lucretia with eironn

[jovial frigate]

Im trying for the moment but im still losing bc daimon's shield gets destoyed by every ult

[covert sigil]

switch daimon and brutus then

[jovial frigate]

Nice changed silas with lucretia and won thx dude

[patent turtle]

Guys which is better to ascend to mythic antandra or brutus if my lineup is like this

[covert sigil]

that's a lot of l

[short dune]

you’re jailed here too? I shouldn’t have used my merc earlier, would make this easier

[covert sigil]

im stucked at 56

im planning on using my merc during 60

[short dune]

let me see, maybe I could help free you

[short dune]

how much stats does engraving give anyway? want to know how my daimon is different from this one

[covert sigil]

just retrying, one time i almost won. And now, it's not coming close enough but imma keep on retrying ths sht

[short dune]

gl, that’s the worst part about unlimited retry pve lol

unreproducible runs are so funny

[steady scroll]

303 e30

[old token]

none of my heroes are engraved in that screenshot they just have stars

got lucky with purple stones

[short dune]

might just be gear issue then (my daimon just gets disappeared with almost full t2)

[old token]

i think mine was t2 as well; i think you just have to keep retrying

chapter is too low for t3

[covert sigil]

almost won the stage and now i dont even come close to killing a single bstard

[short dune]

gl to me then, also maybe ferael anti-haste issue (mine is E+, so no slow)

[old token]

that might sadly be it

[covert sigil]

i was using this for that stage until 56 where im stucked. both brutus and thoran have gears tho

[short dune]

lol I did M thoran instead of M ferael (on the way to A)

I got to cheese, but was it worth it with uncheesable levels lol

[covert sigil]

i did thoran and ferael, now i need oden. I badly want oden ;-;

it's cheesable, there are many in afkhelper

[short dune]

wait what, 29-54 is cheesable? I couldn’t convince mehira to not get extra lives before so I gave up

[covert sigil]

u can look up afkhelper

[short dune]

let me go check, thanks for the tip

[covert sigil]

i wanna be done with chapter 29 so i can get free hero choice 🥲

[short dune]

same, running to 30 before mv reset

[covert sigil]

that's why im saving my merc. I don't wanna spend for the pass where i can use 2 merc

[short dune]

you should be able to merc again next week before mv reset I think

but maybe there are even more problems between 56 and 60, so check afkhelper

[covert sigil]

yah, ill just save it for 60

im quiet curious how many retries 56 will take me

i cant even kill a single one now

lol

[short dune]

with daimon it’s kind of a either “kill 0 or 1, or kill everyone” kind of deal deal

Also gg complain strat worked once again

[covert sigil]

now im gonna complain of 57 :3

nevanthi tankier than my mishka

if i get this lyca to 201 i can win easily ;-;

[covert sigil]

now im stucked at 60. I'm still trying if I can still get it done without using merc

[steady scroll]

whats your lineup ?

[dark pagoda]

Hi all just started playing a few days ago. Just joined the Discord today. Had a question about what my hero line-up should be. I've a chest that lets me summon 1 purple hero too.

[steady scroll]

#faq-resources message

[dense swift]

#classic-questions message

this one also, read both posts and ask questions if you need to but the guides are pretty comprehensive

[steady scroll]

its damn never ending story here xd

[dense swift]

that's ok people dont usually think to check pins or FAQ lol

[steady scroll]

#classic-questions message
XD

[dense swift]

well that's juts sad

gave them the exact answers they needed and they just ask the question again in another ch

[steady scroll]

either 2 lazy or just 2 dumb to scroll up or well... read...

[dense swift]

new players prob seeing how there's 5 guides in the questions pin and going "nah not reading that"

[old token]

the work never ends comrades

[versed maple]

Welp I am once again stuck, if anyone has an idea it will be welcomed with open arms

Btw thanks coaxie for the last one Oden did help

[old token]

nara on arden

wait no aezizh on arden

[covert sigil]

go daimon front then eironn at middle.

[versed maple]

Eironn gets canceled by the estrilda

[versed maple]

Won with that thank you

[old token]

first one free next one $5

jk

youre welcome

[versed maple]

Well I'm here again

[old token]

rowan brutus daimon aezizh lyca

3
1
4
2
5

daimon brutus rowan aezizh lyca if daimon cant ult

in either case, replace rowan with oden if rowan cant ult

[woeful holly]

Pls help guys im stuck 12 10

[covert sigil]

RIP

[old token]

[covert sigil]

read guides and reset game xD

[versed maple]

Daimon worst carry

[old token]

tasi is running a train on your sir

hmmm

[versed maple]

Oden sometimes ults but then daimon just dies

[old token]

daimon brutus nara aezizh lyca

[old token]

i guess 24-60 gave me a headache too

i found an old screenshot of my clear lmao

looking at this i think silas was sacrifical; could use lyca there

[versed maple]

Ok will try

Funny that you have a screenshot lol

[old token]

[versed maple]

I wouldn't mind using a merc but no one is giving me their stuff + it's the first day of the week lol

[old token]

i lent out my carries already; i would have offered

[versed maple]

Lol np might switch guilds mine is pretty bad

[old token]

lurk in #guilds

theres a lot of competitive ones but youll sometimes run across an old casual guild--its how i ultimately ended up in mine

[covert sigil]

oh so u were the one i am seeing on afk helper

[royal flame]

Can someone help me with this

[versed maple]

Kk thx

[old token]

nah lmao i am the one that shamelessly copies everything from there tho

i cant think for myself when running across new formations

[covert sigil]

that's me when faced with mehira comps

[old token]

just do more damage than the enemy

[lavish hinge]

no joan

[heavy marsh]

I tried to change this lineup a lot but it doesn’t work. can someone help please? 😭

[steady scroll]

whole backline is trashcan, u upgrade a lot of heroes at once which means u gonna suffer with fodders and overall bad tier heroes
can't help if u dont show up your heroes

[heavy marsh]

that lineup was a just a desperate one lmao
but here

[steady scroll]

that should do for now

your bigger issue than lineup is the way you waste hero fragments

[heavy marsh]

fair enough, Im new here so it takes a lot of time to understand how does everything work. thank you a lot for helping

[steady scroll]

save that image my dear, its your compendium

[heavy marsh]

😭💕

[steady scroll]

if u ever need any help, there is channel with hotlinks to certain topics with detailed guides #faq-resources

game introduction step by step
#classic-questions message

[heavy marsh]

you’re literally a life-saver, thank you!!!

[icy plover]

can this work with govo kelthur lv2? 38-4-4

[crystal osprey]

Hello, need some help with this stage me LDV isnt fast enough to cc Flora. LDV 309 E36 with call

[short dune]

do you have any eironn? even a single copy helps greatly. in the meantime, try: brutus, rowan, ferael, daimon, nara

[royal stag]

Does LdV has T4 boots ?

[short dune]

you can convince oden to teleport a specific enemy by hurting others. try: brutus, lyca, daimon, oden, nara

[hollow quiver]

Scary rng

[short dune]

nice job lol, complain strat always works (unless it doesn’t)

[obsidian aurora]

Halp me plz

[short dune]

can I see more of your hero box? in the meantime, try: brutus, daimon, arden, rowan, nara (may be unlikely to work, I would swap arden and nara but horse girl will bonk whoever’s in position 2 and also interrupt arden)

very good, clumps middle 3 enemies together, and in your fight, he will clump 4 of them because ox man walks forward

try: brutus, lyca, daimon, eironn, nara

no need to make him L+, he does job at E

you can just wait for 2 more copies to commit to ascending him. also, stop making heroes to L before having 8 copies (or 4 for certain heroes)

[obsidian aurora]

I beat it

However a new problem emerged

Nvm i just beat it aswell with ur comp ty

[short dune]

gg

[obsidian aurora]

Round 3

I might cheese but only if all else fails, otherwise I save for 16-40

Just did it bro im sorry for wasting ur time

Rng really is a pain

[short dune]

yeah, sometimes, the solution is to try a few more times

[short dune]

and by a few I mean maybe a lot

[old token]

[short dune]

I just repeated the same thing and eventually got the god run (3 TY resists mehira without oden dying). would not recommend, bring a merc

[obsidian aurora]

[old token]

upgrading you back to excellent work

[short dune]

I think that is just excellent luck (non-skill solution: just try until it works), but thank you lol

[runic bolt]

@ornate hollow Hey I saw a notif here but don't see anything, it looked like something for 41-44? If you cleared it already, it's all good otherwise let me know.

[ornate hollow]

Hey yep thanks a lot, managed to clear it

now waiting for last round rng to click 41-44-4

not sure if it would work with a weak zol though but I got close a couple of times

[runic bolt]

Ah nice! You're all set then, it should work as they are charmed most of the time.

[ornate hollow]

you clear seems like zol did like half the damage though and mine kinda dies at the start

need mehira to lock thoran right after revive otherwise he spams his ult and can't be charmed

r1 didn't work for me with eironn so had to merc a nemora for it

[runic bolt]

I mean he does his thing while everybody's killing each other, it shouldn't be too hard as long as he survives the opener

[ornate hollow]

He never survives the opener

[runic bolt]

Even with gear?

[ornate hollow]

I don't have gear to give him

[runic bolt]