lineup-help

[static egret]

First train was cced, second train was when it went downhill

[old token]

alright, lets try atalene where lyca is; hopefully they can still teleport her fast enough

after you try this, can you show me the damage results (wanna see daimon and atalene compared)

[static egret]

I think it works, just needs a couple more runs for the right rng maybe

[old token]

[static egret]

aTal dies too fast before she gets to do anything 💀

[old token]

do you know if oden is teleporting estrilda or pippa

if its green and evil looking its oden lol

if thats the case, replace pippa with nara and put lyca back in; i like daimon's dmg output

looks like mirael runs her own train after estrilda lmao

[static egret]

I see Oden doing most of the teleporting, I'll try that

I could maybe ascend Daimon?

[old token]

daimon
atalane
nara
lyca
oden

i need to go hopefully this one does it

also up to you if you want to do that ascension lol; i kept shemira to use her as dimensional link

[static egret]

This is the result, ATalene damage is all from her being dead lmao

[static egret]

Oh, i see i see. Thank you! At keast I'm seeing some light under the tunnel lmao

[mild badge]

@old token just got A daimon!

[old token]

dammmmmmm

daimon
brutus
nara
awtalene
oden

if nara cant pull mirael at start of battle, might have to put lyca back in where atalene is and hope for best

[wooden orchid]

bruh i was stuck on one level for like 2 days, i got past it now ive gone up 2 chapters this game is so confusing

[old token]

sir this is the lineup channel

but congrats my guy

[old token]

maybe

daimon
brutus
nara
lyca
atalene

👀 @static egret 👀

[static egret]

I did it. I ascended Daimon

Thank youUUU, i used this formation. Now i'm unstuck thanks to you 🥰

[old token]

i'll send u invoice sir

congrats haha

[static egret]

Go easy on the invoice, cause im broke as heck

[pallid owl]

Idk what to do now.. do I use the Merc?

[hardy star]

Idk what characters I should use, I'm having trouble in the champaign

[wooden orchid]

Am i missing something on mirael carry or does she just suck

[old token]

sir where is daimon

[old token]

our messages got deleted lol

[old token]

switch vie and rosa, then put daimon where rosa is

maybe even lyca where golus is

[wooden orchid]

Like this

[old token]

no

daimon
brutus
mirael
lyca
viethael

[wooden orchid]

the whole team just melts before mirael has like 50% of her spec lmao

[old token]

oden instead of viethael

[old token]

oden or arden instead of viethael

[wooden orchid]

neither work, i guess ill afk till new years and try and level and push

i think ill reset and go back to overlevel daimon since he doesnt die in 1 shot atleast
i was previous pushing with

daimon
lyca
Oden
Viethael
Silas

that saw me the most success pushed 2 chapters with that

[old token]

it do be like that sometimes

[late steppe]

Which pet i use for this line up?🙏

[robust meteor]

Use highest lvl pet

Generally white/green ball are the best out of the rare pets

[sly thunder]

Black ball pet is the REAL carry early game tbh

[late steppe]

Ty guys😭

[old token]

Lyon is the true early game carry

[sly thunder]

[barren crypt]

There was a point in the early chapters where my pet carried harder than mythic Daimon

The damage was crazy

[sly thunder]

[hardy star]

I'm stuck in chapter 7 what am I doing wrong with my lineup

[tulip dagger]

Show enemies and your lineup

[tulip dagger]

@wooden orchid this but swap brutus and lyca imo
Vedan is the strongest enemy in that comp, tank him
Or try to get 101 on everybody for more skills

[wooden orchid]

Yeah I'm gated by dust at the moment seems like a waste of the ones in my bag if they scale with level

[tulip dagger]

Try above setup and replace vie with oden or arden imo, that way vedan doesnt tear trough your team and gives some time to ramp up dmg

[tulip dagger]

Try brutus/daimon front
Talene/rowan/lyca back
Dont level/ascend non fodders past 100, ascend some fodders and level those instead, ogi out of crystal
=Earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[wooden orchid]

The thing is everyone basically gets one shot before mirael can do anything

She takes so long to ult compared to daimon

[hardy star]

I only got 1 daimon;-;

[tulip dagger]

With that team too?
Yeah thats why i prefer daimon over her haha, shield makes him so much tankier

[tulip dagger]

So? Put him into crystal and let him go past lvl 100

...nvm

[hardy star]

But you said to out 1 daimon in the back and 1 in the front-

[tulip dagger]

Just noticed what you mean lol

[wooden orchid]

The issue is daimon is stuck at 120 and I lack the fodder to get anyone else to L+ right now to put him in crystal to raise his cap and also basically 0 dust

[tulip dagger]

Try talene for now until you get other heroes, edited it

[hardy star]

Ight thanks

[wooden orchid]

Assuming I stick with mirael Carry am I better of using the dust to take her to 140 or take everyone else to 101 for the extra ability

[tulip dagger]

140 would carry you further due to pure power/lvl advantage

[wooden orchid]

Okay tomorrow I'll have enough dust to push her past 120 and I'll try again I dint think I have enough xp to get her to 140 but atleast 130 hopefully

[wooden orchid]

One other question I forgot to ask shall I move dura grace to one of my front line units or keep it on mirael?
Daimon basically always managed to proc it but I suspect anyone I put in front will just insta die before they can utilise it

[mossy robin]

I've read the beginner guide by anakin but not really understood everything. Is it better to lvl just one carry (shemira right? L) or lvl my whole team? I will clear map 4 soon and then resetting units istn free anymore.

My goal is to reach map15 in 12 days (if it is possible)

[wooden orchid]

Don't take anyone to L unless you can take them to L+

Shemira is not your carry, daimon is

[wooden orchid]

Use this guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcT34gPd9WS8Ivb9kZGmAP6qnoIzFFUUmyNETq1J_kg/edit?usp=sharing

[mossy robin]

Thanks, will read it

[old token]

the while shebang 👀 #classic-questions message

[urban sparrow]

Hey guys who should I be looking to swap Wu out for?

[steep vale]

Best team for early game?

[tulip dagger]

Call is more important, grace kinda useless iirc

[tulip dagger]

Level 5 fodders, shemira sucks
In the temple of ascension, auto ascend is always safe, smart ascend doo doo so feel free to get rid of all those blues

Wu is your carry until he reaches lvl 100 and gets killed too fast

For now run
Brutus/daimon front
Wukong/rowan/nevanthi back

15 in 12 is doable with some lucky pulls yeah

[tulip dagger]

Awakened talene probably best choice for carry, any fodder to replace him for crystal lvls

[tulip dagger]

Grez/daimon
Lorsan/eironn/ferael for now i guess

Also level fodders not good heroes =earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[steep vale]

Thanks Steve! I'm gonna try this set up

Apreciate it🦊💜

[tulip dagger]

Ye just keep pushing and summon new stuff to form a proper team this is just some randoms for now haha

[green saffron]

I’m new to ark but I’ve played similar games and I’ve been watching vids out characters and early game progression but I’m just stuck near the end of chapter nine. I have daimon carry in the front with mishka than from the back top I have oden, Rowan and Silas I believe this is my best current comp but 9-37 just has me stuck.

[lime willow]

skill issue tbh

[green saffron]

Afk* not ark lol

I guess so lol

[steep vale]

I will thanks bro! I did what you said and it's so much better already 👌🦊

[green saffron]

Beat it, yeh just bad I guess

[steep vale]

The only thing what i think I'm gonna struggle with is when is a character better/when to change them haha

[steep vale]

I still have a hero's choice chest! Should I pick Daimon to get elite+?

[carmine star]

Hello

[rain pike]

here

[carmine star]

Help me pls

[old token]

with what

[tulip dagger]

Save for now

[carmine star]

Monster so strong, i dont kill it

[old token]

just need stronger heroes

[carmine star]

Im newbie

[old token]

post box

[carmine star]

U can add friend help me :((

[sly thunder]

for that vietnamese guy, sorry if not english
Đọc ghim đi bro, show dàn tướng với ải thì ms biết đc chứ

[old token]

[sly thunder]

kẹt ải nào, chụp cái ảnh ải đấy lên

[old token]

save the day

[sly thunder]

[carmine star]

@sly thunder giúp với

Mới chơi được 4-5 tiếng hic

[sly thunder]

Ấn bắt đầu đi rồi chụp

[sly thunder]

well thats too much vietnamese
have you redeemed the codes

[carmine star]

Yes

[cobalt owl]

Any ideas how to beat them? The main thing I can get through their shields. So no damage from me

[sly thunder]

have you do other events like peak of time, candy crush things, etc..? Seems like you have quite few elite heroes, not sure why

[carmine star]

I do all

[sly thunder]

peak or time? Or where is it?

[carmine star]

@sly thunder

[cobalt owl]

Yeah deep basins or smth like that

[sly thunder]

reset scarlet and level daimon up to 100, he is the carry
Also use lyca instead of lucius for the haste buff

[sly thunder]

Merc a lucretia and sweep it

[carmine star]

Really ??

[sly thunder]

tbh lucius is quite useless
make sure to change the wishlist and ascend fodder first

[cobalt owl]

Ok I’ll try thx

[carmine star]

Ty so much

[sly thunder]

[carmine star]

What heros do I have to use to tank? @sly thunder

[cobalt owl]

Should I still use the main roster with Luc? Or fill some trash units? Difference is like 10m or smth x) they are lvl 300 Jeez

[sly thunder]

Brutus is the best choice for the immunity
Also thoran could be good for his resurrection

[loud sedge]

What’s my best team?

[sly thunder]

Fill with trash units, hypogeans for the faction bonus, or some buff heroes lyca(haste), lorsan(link) etc..

[carmine star]

I dont havr thoran

[cobalt owl]

Thx

[sly thunder]

There is no team that can clear through all stages, for each stage you might want to use a different comp but, the most comp ive ever seen people used is daimon+brutus only

[sly thunder]

you can try putting lyca frontline
Her job is to give haste at the start only

[steady heron]

Someone help I have absolutely no idea what im doing 😭

I cant clear 8-36

[cobalt owl]

Are u lvling 9 heroes at the same time or am I seeing it wrong?

#classic-questions message

Sorry I’m bad at using discord 😦 So here is the basic guide. Go through that first

[steady heron]

Thank you v much did not know i wasnt supposed to lvl so many 💀💀

[cobalt owl]

Yeah I supposed to have your core 5 and other heroes just go to RC

And also take notice that u don’t want to leave your heroes at legendary tier. It’s either legendary + or leave them at elite+ . Because you will eventually run out of fodder heroes that way

[worldly osprey]

Me need help , me ask for help

[old token]

[sour kestrel]

everyone gets near 1 shot besides daimon, any ideas on how to beat this, might be time to finally afk

[valid compass]

Should I make thoran or grezhul ascended after ferael

[valid compass]

I would use frontline: grezhul + Rowan and put daimon at the back (middle) with

Lyca and… I don’t know the rest of your hero roaster

[primal mist]

Grez wants 9f, pretty useless without it. If you aren't close to that, do Thoran first. That said you don't have the copies for Grez anyways

[sour kestrel]

its posted above but thanks

[valid compass]

My grez already got 2 mythic fun

[valid compass]

Lyca and oden

[primal mist]

could be a while before 9f, do Thoran first imo

[valid compass]

I see👍 thoran is Si30 right?

[primal mist]

+30 is nice but not strictly necessary till ch35 or something like that

[valid compass]

Ah ok, thank you!

[sour kestrel]

ty this is working

[valid compass]

No problem 👍

[nova terrace]

Can somebody help me with who I should and shouldn’t use for my characters for the campaign

[primal mist]

Please read the post below this and then ask clarifying questions afterwards: =earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[pale kettle]

sheesh thats a lot of support

[nova terrace]

Is that bad?

[pale kettle]

can you show me your hero wishlist

[nova terrace]

Ok

[pale kettle]

Better off starting new account and put this on your wishlist

Scarlet, Rowan, palmer, Rosaline, morrow

Kren, skreg, skriath, anasta, Brutus

Mishka, astar, nevanthi, raku, gorvo

Daimon, Oden, Silas, grezhul, ferael or hodgkin

And there's also a lot of heroes u need 1 copy but for early get 1 copy of

Nara, Cecilia, salaki ,lyca

[astral dragon]

That moment when you level all your heros from 110 all the way to 120 and only move up 2 missions 😭

[nova terrace]

START NEW ACCOUNT??!!???

[pale kettle]

Ye cause your heroes are all support xd u can't move up without a carry

[nova terrace]

💀💀

[pale kettle]

And your wishlist are all wrong so better start new account

[astral dragon]

Bro hasnt put a single level into damion 💀

[nova terrace]

Wait I did now

[pale kettle]

Ye daimon is the best carry early

But it's elite

[astral dragon]

Reset someone and put the levels into damion see how it goes

Also what mission are you on?

[nova terrace]

I made daimon lvl 100 and I’m on like 7-5

[astral dragon]

You should be fine with a lvl 100 damion and the right supports on chapter 7

[nova terrace]

So for what I’ve got rn who should I use for campaign

[pale kettle]

Owh ye and don't ascend scarlet early just get copy of her your not gonna need her until late game

Focus on Rowan first

[nova terrace]

The little goblin guy who throws coins everywhere??

[pale kettle]

Ye u need Rowan early to late game

And scarlet u can just get her in mercenary if your doing guild boss

[nova terrace]

Ait Ty

[astral dragon]

Do 1: damion 2: veithael 3: silas 4: rowan 5: your choice

That lineup got me to chapter 10

On elite too you have them L

[pale kettle]

Focus on building daimon that's your main carry in early

[nova terrace]

YOO THIS DAIMON GUY IS SICK

[astral dragon]

Mishka and wukong are good for stunning the enemy but Mishka tends to be better

[astral dragon]

Lmao

My first 3 summons all had a copy of damion but I havent been lucky since

[pale kettle]

Owh and don't forget to redeem codes

[nova terrace]

Shame I’m broke as fuck now and got like 5k xp to my name

[astral dragon]

Once you get to chapter 9? I think? You get a free 5 mil xp

[pale kettle]

Here are the working codes

misevj66yi
uf4shqjngq
Brutus2022
afk888
rynfzjk85y
XANADU
Don2023

[nova terrace]

Ty lad I’ve used all but Brutus and the top one

[astral dragon]

Either reset mezoth or rosaline and put the xp into the other person. It will boost veithaels level

Veithael is a better carry currently for you than damion

Also dont forget to do all the side mission stuff the game has like labyrinth, tower, peaks of time and the events

[nova terrace]

Done all that I’m just too lazy to do main campaign

[torpid vigil]

I just started a day or too ago and I was wondering how this looks.

[astral dragon]

I can't speak too much about it since I don't have alot of the people but rosaline is said to be an S tier support, mezoth traps enemies and is a beefy tank, mishka good once leveled up, reset your lvl 30 and 11, and try to keep your carry leveled above your other heros. In your case it looks like wukong would be your carry as to which I'm paying my respects because hes hot ass.

[astral dragon]

Personally I'd also swap out grezhul. I've also heard thoran is good, theres something called thoran cheese or something. I don't know anything about it since I don't have him but I'd probably look into it if I were you

[torpid vigil]

Is there anyone else I should be aiming to get? Maybe to replace grezhul or wukong?

[astral dragon]

Only the people I mentioned would be worth experimenting with, Ill he honest you got kinda screwed with your summons rng, try targeting graveborn summons

[torpid vigil]

Ok, I’ve played other games and re rolled in them, would it be worth re starting? Or should I just keep going

[astral dragon]

How far are you?

[short dune]

you can probably restart if you want, doesn’t look to be too far in, so probably not so painful

[astral dragon]

Its up to you, if you want you could keep going and see how you do. But I'd say if you can't get a damion by like chapter 8 or something probably restart. I honestly don't know what I'd do without a damion

[short dune]

also can vouch for all scrolls on gb, which got me a decent gb lineup but also created gb fodder insufficiency

even a single daimon is much better than mirael carry

[astral dragon]

And idk if you can even get past chapter 10 without a L or L+ damion, ig unless you get an awakened hero

[torpid vigil]

What does that mean? How do I vouch for scrolls?

[astral dragon]

He was saying he can attest when he said vouch

[short dune]

I meant that using faction scrolls on gb is very good lol, maybe bad wording

[torpid vigil]

Got it

[haughty heath]

Anyone able to recommend a good Graveborn comp? Gonna reroll a gb account and wanna know who I should prioritize + try start off with awakened

[astral dragon]

Damion, silas, and oden in that order are S tier heros

Nara is also really good as she ignores shields and immunity

[haughty heath]

yee i expected daimon, they're my main carry on main rn lol i just dk much about the other gb's except Thoran and Shemira :')

[astral dragon]

Silas has 2 really op healing abilities ontop of his main ability giving immunity to the weakest hero

Oden groups up enemies while stunning them and taking their energy

[short dune]

hodge has fear ult and flag boost, but I’m not really sure if it works well early game

grez scales off enemies well when built, but requires some investment

[dense swift]

Silas is quite good but sometimes he trolls and will use his ultimate on full hp Daimon and I get to watch my Daimon explode 5 seconds later from the delay damage 🥹

[short dune]

ferael has early fear and energy manip, but maybe wait for more experienced people to help before using your faction scrolls

[astral dragon]

Ive never had that happen lol

[haughty heath]

Ight so so far for wishlist I've got Daimon, Silas and Oden

[astral dragon]

You usually get a free wukong i think which is good to keep on the team for a good while

[dense swift]

Thoran is good early but I heard he falls off because he drops aggro which makes him a less than stellar tank at times

[pale kettle]

dont do thoran early without his sig his useless

[astral dragon]

Also try to get a rowan, people say hes trash early game and op late game but I disagree I think hes good no matter what and hes been clutch for me countless times

Hes good in middle back or front depending on the situation

[short dune]

I think he’s doing gb challenge account, so no wukong or rowan

[haughty heath]

i want it to be a gb only account :P

[astral dragon]

Oooooooooh

[pale kettle]

gb early daimon,silas,oden,grezhul,ferael or hodgkin and 1 copy of nara thats all u need for early gb a ccount

[dense swift]

I think ferael would be handy for the cc

[astral dragon]

I was about to say that I heard hes good

Izold is said to be S tier

[pale kettle]

izold is good too but u stil need daimon in your comp izold cant do much in early without sig

[potent coyote]

How tf do I beat this

[pale kettle]

show the enemy f ormation

[astral dragon]

Try damion, thane, silas, rowan, oden/mishka

[potent coyote]

what items do i use

[pale kettle]

try backline ferael, oden, daimon front brutus rowan

[dense swift]

Why is frontline rowan good? I sometimes try it but all that I seem to get is Rowan getting nuked in 2 seconds

[pale kettle]

the benefit is for his potion

[potent coyote]

still getting crushed

[pale kettle]

try replacing ferael with athane

[astral dragon]

Whats your power vs their power? A good rule is that ~55% or less of their power is gonna be really hard to beat

[short dune]

can you describe who and where oden is teleporting?

[potent coyote]

i have 320k

[astral dragon]

Anyone infront of him first, usually he tend to group them infront of the carry or the left side

[potent coyote]

i usually just go brutus and daimon but thats not working here

[pale kettle]

owh ye check oden teleport if he teleport estrilda to hogan then change formation

[astral dragon]

Was that from trying mine? I heard damion is better in the back late game so try putting him in the back

[pale kettle]

the key is to stall enemy for daimon

and dont just giving up after 1 try sometimes u just need rng

[potent coyote]

yeverytime mirael just ults and crits everything

[astral dragon]

Rowan is invulnerable for the first few hits, he also distracts the assassin gb while putting his heals in the front for better accessibility

[potent coyote]

even when after daimon ults and stuff he still gets muredred instantly

[pale kettle]

put call in daimon and grace in brutus cause his probably the only one whos gonna get his ult other than daimon

[astral dragon]

They have 620k so you have 51% the amount of their power. Most likely you will have to get just the right formation to be able to win

[short dune]

actually, try the funny: lyca, brutus, pippa, oden, daimon (into the 1,2,3,4,5 slots)

Make sure oden has more opening haste than pippa (try giving one of them call), but both must teleport before someone hits pippa. funny drop lyca onto both frontline

[pale kettle]

and rng my guy sometimes it takes atleast 10 try to win

[astral dragon]

That too

[potent coyote]

ok

[short dune]

and yeah rng is painful sometimes, gl

[haughty heath]

this looking good for a gb wishlist?

[astral dragon]

But like rn Im in the same situation I have 46% the battle power but my heros are softlocked at 120 so I need to wait until I get my fodder to L or L+

[pale kettle]

@haughty heathye and get 1 copy of nara

[astral dragon]

Personally I'd avoid grenhul I'd personally go for nara

[haughty heath]

oh ye forgot about nara ty for reminding lol

[pale kettle]

in early u dont need grez but u can still put in wishlist for mid to late game

[potent coyote]

this got crushed in 2 seconds 💀

[short dune]

rip guess belinda pokes at pippa too fast

[haughty heath]

I assume I'll wanna try and get Daimon awakened from the list?

[astral dragon]

Try putting in lvl 1 fodder heros, maybe they will be so confused they will just die

[potent coyote]

good idea

i just need one more daimon to awaken him then this will be a breeze

[pale kettle]

in early game daimon is the best or 2nd only to lucretia as carry

[astral dragon]

You could/should also get 4 fodder to L+ and transfer your other heros levels to the fodder since your team is stuck at L

[haughty heath]

still got my Daimon as main carry in chapter 22 lol

[pale kettle]

@haughty heath chapter 22 is still early game

[short dune]

don’t make more L guys btw

[astral dragon]

Lol

[potent coyote]

i dont have enough fodder for that and i have no purple cocaine left anyway

[haughty heath]

close to swapping to mid though right? ;-;

[potent coyote]

whatever i will just sell my soul to the gacah gods tomorrow and get another daimon

[elfin rose]

Hey guys if i run daimon hypercarry with Rosaline and Rowan, which of my other characters should fill in the other 2 spots?

[astral dragon]

Its not to late to make a new account 💀

[pale kettle]

dont put rosaline bruh

[elfin rose]

Why not isn't she decent for the early game? I'm only chapter 12 yet

[pale kettle]

she cant get an ult in chapter 12

[sour bolt]

Shemira is hot flaming garbage read beginners guide in #classic-questions and id suggest making a new acc

[astral dragon]

Always damion if possible

[sour bolt]

I mean u do have a daimon… could try to salvage

[pale kettle]

dont try to ascend shemira always focus on daimon

[haughty heath]

laughs in 1* ascended shemira

[pale kettle]

thats dog

[short dune]

I mean, if you have ascended shem, you can link a dim to it

[pale kettle]

owh forgot about ainz try garrison

maybe you can still push with ainz

[nova terrace]

@pale kettle yo I got a ascended marrow

[pale kettle]

how about rowan

[astral dragon]

I wish you could gift a hero to someone 😓 Ima be stuck on this mission for days until I can either get a damion or 5 L/L+ fodder

[astral dragon]

Stuck again already?

[nova terrace]

I’m not stuck I’m just thinking should I reset scarlet and use marrow

[astral dragon]

Whats your lineup rn?

[nova terrace]

The top row

[short dune]

can I see? unlikely that I can help, but maybe an experienced player is lurking around

[pale kettle]

@nova terrace u can just resonate him

[nova terrace]

Oh put him on that like upgrader thingy

[pale kettle]

ye

[nova terrace]

Yes I could

But I should still leave my team as is right ? Or swap marrow in for somebody

[astral dragon]

Lmaooo I put my main setup and tried it again just for shits and giggles and won lmaoo thats all luck because I had like 46% the amount of bp as the enemies and was getting game ended in 2 seconds before

[short dune]

lol rng at its finest, gg

[astral dragon]

If you are wondering this was my setup

[nova terrace]

What is the reason for everybody using rowan is his coin ult thing really that good

[tulip dagger]

Rowan shouldnt be front that early and nara should hook isabella usually 😅

[tulip dagger]

Yeah and great support at Si +30

[trim shoal]

hes cute! but actually iirc he gives out buffs

[tulip dagger]

Heal pots + energy pots at +30 + energy and cc ult

[nova terrace]

Omega how this looking

[astral dragon]

Yea this setup wasnt for this mission it was for the one before, i had rowan in the front to distract the assassin gb from going after my silas

Also hes invulnerable for like 2 seconds which helps alot

[pale kettle]

@nova terracewhy is s ilas in front

[nova terrace]

Idk lol 💀💀

[pale kettle]

put front rowan and veithael

[tulip dagger]

Rather use a tank front insdtead if silas, rowan mid back

[astral dragon]

Replace silas and veithael

[pale kettle]

daimon not gonna last in front

[nova terrace]

Done done and done

[astral dragon]

Ig cus hes a single copy

[tulip dagger]

Early on easily, only 6 lvl deficit lol

[nova terrace]

True

[tulip dagger]

He gets more energy from being front and shouldnt be overpowered yet

[nova terrace]

He doesn’t even go below 75percent hp

[pale kettle]

well ur 6 level deficit lmao

[tulip dagger]

Single copy doesnt really matter until higher deficits, as long as he can ult and shield

[nova terrace]

This means nothing to me

[tulip dagger]

Regarding ascensions and levelling follow =earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[pale kettle]

change formation when ur like 20-20+ level deficit

[tulip dagger]

Dont make any more L heroes

[astral dragon]

Btw this setup has gotten me from chapter 3 to chapter 10 in like a day its soo good

[nova terrace]

Which one would be more useful

[haughty heath]

feelsbad, awakened Brutus but like no gb's to use :')

[pale kettle]

umm its random u need to put 2 of them

[nova terrace]

The other one is an xp one but for this one which pull would be preferable

[pale kettle]

u need to put those 2 to click next if u put 1 its not gonna work

[astral dragon]

The gold scrolls would be better but both would be good

The gold scrolls allow you to target a type of hero usually you want to use them on gb

[pale kettle]

-_- thats wish box u need to put those 2 and u get random

[tulip dagger]

Not worth it =spendingmoney

[cloud nexus]

Priorities for Spending Money

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828

[astral dragon]

Ik but hes wondering which would hypothetically be better

[tulip dagger]

Or is it the free one?

[pale kettle]

its more satisfying playing f2p

[nova terrace]

It was free or it said something like -1999%

[tulip dagger]

If its a limited time offer for -1999% it sucks

[nova terrace]

Thank god it wasn’t a free one that bugged

Cuz it despawned after my game crashed

[tulip dagger]

Those pop up deals are bad value

Dw it will return

Again and again and again

[astral dragon]

Silas is such a ride or die hero, he had literally no hp but managed to get his ability off on damion before he died 😭

[nova terrace]

ITS HERE AGAIN

[pale kettle]

lmao dont buy that

[tulip dagger]

Just ignore those

[pale kettle]

even when your p2w

the only one worth buying is something with vip if ur p2w

[tulip dagger]

See spending command above lol

[pale kettle]

the one on merchant

[nova terrace]

I’m not planning on spending money

[pale kettle]

that pop up is not good deal

[nova terrace]

Play throughs that you buy feel fake anyways

[pale kettle]

playing without spending is always the best for me atleast

[astral dragon]

The deals are crap anyway. Its not worth being a whale all of its basically scams lmao. They are way to greedy with their deals

[pale kettle]

paying doesnt give u the satisfaction

if your gonna buy items in games better to buy if the item u can sell for real money

buying something that stay on your account is not good

[short dune]

more puzzles to solve: need to stop daimon from getting coffin dance’d, and stop thane’s omnislash from destroying daimon

[pale kettle]

swap brutus and lyca formation

[tulip dagger]

Swap fronts and get rowan +30 and mid back

[short dune]

wait it just worked lmao

[tulip dagger]

Not sure if nara could outspeed fawkes coffin

Ah rng, nice

[short dune]

well dang it now I look stupid (power saving mode lag for the win)

[tulip dagger]

Complain strats op

[short dune]

the game certainly knows when you’re swapping to discord to discuss strats lol

[pale kettle]

same formation work?

[short dune]

thanks for the help anyway 😄

[pale kettle]

rng on pippa i guess

[short dune]

swapped brutus and lyca (was trying to mirror comp before), then rng worked

probably pippa’s machine gun and fawkes particle lag somewhere in there too, along with pippa rng

[tulip dagger]

Better protection for daimon helps gather energy somtimes

[pale kettle]

daimon and brutus is always good comp

[nova terrace]

Just got this little dude any good?

Yooo holy

[pale kettle]

yep the damage mitigation is really nice

[astral dragon]

The two most annoying ops ong. Spear guy literally sat at 1hp for an eternity and survived THREE daimon ults in a row while at that health and then started healing himself. And the assassin girl eats my supports for breakfast

[astral dragon]

Yo can I have that damion 🥺

[pale kettle]

u need mishka for saveas and u can put a fodder in front so she teleport front not go in the backline

[nova terrace]

Yis

[short dune]

you can use an ungeared rowan to bait silvina, then teleport her away if you have the means

[haughty heath]

u can have my daimon ;D

[astral dragon]

Yea I got my rowan in the front but Im at such a deficite that she one shots all my supports minus silas, although the mishka is noted

[astral dragon]

When and were bb

I use mishka but I didnt know she was a saveas counter

[short dune]

you can also put brutus in front of saveas, buys some time

but eventually you need burst; good thing he’s always at low health from spear throwing

[astral dragon]

Saveas shit on my mishka that wasn't even a full hit 🤣

[pale kettle]

the idea of mishka is for saveas to hit the wolves to buy time

[dense swift]

you forgot about Varden and how he turns into an untargetable swarm of bats every 10 seconds

[astral dragon]

I like that, gives my guys time to kill the others/heal

[short dune]

he means the enemy vedan; your vedan is likely to die before first ult

[pale kettle]

ye xd

saveas is easier to deal with than vedan he can 1v5 your team when he ult

[dense swift]

I also am now realizing that while my mentor means well, he's like level 500 something and he keeps suggesting Shemira because he played early game in a different meta lol

[astral dragon]

Im talking about the enemy too

[pale kettle]

u cant heal when enemy vedan ult ur actually getting 1v5

[astral dragon]

Hm weird. I keep winning while hes ult and it feels like the pressure is let up while hes doing that

Also its so crazy to me how much a single change in position helps. I moved mishka to the front and rowan to the back and I went from getting complete ko'd to not losing a single person

[pale kettle]

yep mishka is an s tier early better if u pair it with astar

thats your focus hero to ascend in wilder hero

[potent coyote]

damn i beat 14-40. my than crit like 500 times on mirael

[astral dragon]

Yea I been using mishka for awhile but my earlier shown setup often does better all around so I dont have her in as much currently

[pale kettle]

depends on what hero u get early sometimes ur stuck with elite mishka sometimes u summon and get mauler which is the worst faction early

[astral dragon]

Bro ankira just walked up to everyone even a shielded daimon and tapped on their shoulders, one shotting them and then going to the next person 💀

[pale kettle]

her web is annoying and her poison deletes 1 of your hero

[astral dragon]

Yea, luckily oden and nara dealt with it easily

Nara just starts curb stomping her and it's hilarious 😂

[pale kettle]

i mean thats better than estrilhda she just ram 3 of your heroes and their dead

well all of legendary heroes are annoying in campaign

and when u use them their useless

[dense swift]

facts lol

I had estrilda run my team down for a solid 20-30 tries and thought "damn she must be broken" and put her in reso and gave her great equips, turns out she dies before she can breathe

if I use both my hero's choice from the code and ch 12 chest, I can get one more E+ daimon and I can take daimon from M to Ascended, is it worth right now?

[astral dragon]

Ok last level of chapter 10. I tried all kinds of formations and nothing worked. All my heros are visible on screen

How good is 1 copy of lucius? I know people consider him as one of, if not the best tank but idk if its only when he is higher ascended.
I have a hero chest which has a lucius in it which is why Im asking

[dense swift]

Don't take my word completely on it but I think early Lucius is considered cheeks

[haughty heath]

Oh ye I forgot to ask earlier, how come 1 copy of Nara was recommended before switching her off wishlist? Like what purpose is having 1 copy?

[dense swift]

Im not familiar with Nara but it's likely a support char who doesnt need acensions from the sounds of it

[haughty heath]

nah she's not a support so idk lol

[violet matrix]

Guys I have 1 hero choice and Idk who to choose. I really need help/suggestions thanks

[wheat phoenix]

lucius is decent early but falls off rly hard rly fast

[astral dragon]

Hm it just sucks because I dont own a single tank (not counting daimon)

[astral dragon]

Either use it for a daimon or save it

[astral dragon]

Also you should really use silas, hes too op to ignore

[torpid vigil]

Who should I build, I just re started

I just pulled tasi as well

[astral dragon]

Do a common only run and see how far you get

[dense swift]

I feel so bad for frontlining rowan, he feels like a mmo mob dropping loot

my dreary ball is doing more damage than 4 members of my team 🙃

[violet matrix]

Oh alr but who should I swap for him?

[dense swift]

try
daimon mishka
silas rowan tasi

also keep silas behind daimon, his ground spray thing is great for extra heals

[violet matrix]

Okay okay tysm

Ill prob keep raku coz hes may fave

[stable ember]

Good tanks are few and far between, but lucius is absolute trash beyond the very early game. Hasn't been good for a couple years.

With daimon comp, you get away with an E Brutus in front of him for a very long time.

[pale kettle]

@torpid vigil can i see your wishlist u might try to restart again

[hearty delta]

I'm new player and i'm stuck on 8 - 40.
what can i do with my deck ?

// (Sorry for my English. I use translator)

[astral dragon]

Since you have daimon in your crystal, reset your 120 and even out your 5 pedestal heros until they reach lvl 100, also put oden in the crystal

[haughty heath]

does Oden need to be back middle since he’s an “aoe” character or can I put Nara there because of her pull?

[dense swift]

Having trouble clearing this stage, not sure how to deal with Estrildas drive by since it ccs Daimon.

[dense swift]

Oden can be anywhere in the back, watch how he uses his ability and that will determine a lot of fights based on how he drops things

[haughty heath]

oki tyvm

i’m playing at a distance from my monitor so can’t see too easily of who’s doing which skill so didnt know how his skills worked lol

[dense swift]

Oden can pick up and drop a unit, he also always attacks the unit across from him so those are the important things to note

[haughty heath]

ight tyvm

[astral dragon]

I almost had a heart attack lmao 😅
I decided I would start a new account early so I can get a head start on the daily rewards and such.
I knew I bound my main to an old gmail I used to use so I figured I could sign back in by clicking "continue with gmail" but when I continued with said gmail it started another new account 😱
Luckily if I signed in with email and then put in said gmail it put me back on my main

[short dune]

sir this is probably wrong channel, but nice that you got the account back

[tulip dagger]

Lucius sucks, show chest you want to pick him from

[tulip dagger]

Nara is great for countering stuff like isabella or mirael which can completely wipe your team if not cc'd

[tulip dagger]

Save chest

[tulip dagger]

Wukong from the fb share event up to lvl 100 then daimon
=Earlygame

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

Raku bad before M +30

[tulip dagger]

Dont ascend useless stuff past e+, check =earlygame
Try running mishka/daimon front
Silas mirael rosa back

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

Oden can be anywhere

[tulip dagger]

Try daimon instead of thoran and nara in his place to pull isa

Do you need sth? Early on like everything works tbh

[wooden orchid]

Any advice for this one

[valid compass]

How to deal with their cc?

[tulip dagger]

Nara instead if silas, you need to cc isa

[tulip dagger]

More retries?

Try whatever
Aw brutus always strong, add palmer neva and twins in the back

[valid compass]

It actually worked after like 50 retries lol

[dense swift]

any alternatves if I do not have nara?

[short dune]

another day, another tasi stage that blocks daimon carries. I can’t find a way to stop/slow down tasi’s banish

[tulip dagger]

[tulip dagger]

Athalia, Aw ezizh

[short dune]

nvm, creative usage of thoran’s rez fear was sufficient with good rng

[glad quail]

Anything I could be doing better?

[old token]

alna isnt doing much for you here; replace her with brutus

eventually youll want to hide daimon behind brutus; daimon isnt as good a tank as his class suggests

when you unlock more rc slots try to have the following heroes on there (no particular order, fine even at E, except for rowan which needs M): safiya nara eironn lyca lorsan pippa oden rowan

also, review your tavern wishlist; you have a bunch of heroes i shouldnt be seeing in early game (fix this immediately)

lastly, good job on not making random L heroes

[sly thunder]

[old token]

[sly thunder]

tbh i didnt know those guides existed

[drowsy river]

Hard stuck on this stage, am I doing something wrong or is this just rng fight?
I see multiple people cleared the stage with this team

[meager plinth]

Any advice for this?

[tulip dagger]

Rng then probably

[drowsy river]

They were lower level tho

[tulip dagger]

Daimon pos 3 so he doesnt get overrun by est
Hm does Aw brutus counter estrilada charge?
Other than that replace nara with ferael, no need to pull somebody there

[drowsy river]

Is my Thoran too tanky 🤔

[tulip dagger]

Makes it easier, should be doable still tbh
Does he have full equipment?

[drowsy river]

Ah I see t3 resonance has kicked in, removed that

[orchid egret]

Should I get mythic+ daimon or ascend oden ? I need 3 more copies to ascend daimon … but I have enough to ascend oden… keep in mind I don’t have ALOT of fodder … just 2 L+

Alright… thanks

[meager plinth]

Nope, aw brutus die fast. Btw, i have e+ brutus and 1 slot in crystal

[tulip dagger]

Try replacing with normal then if he doesnt put in work anymore

[tulip dagger]

3 copies can take forever and as King said, M+ is a minimal stat gain not worth the fodder

[elfin rose]

What is the best team with Daimon and Rowan I'm currently chapter 8

I also have the chest to choose a hero, which one should I pick ?

[tulip dagger]

Lmao

[old token]

daimon
brutus
rowan
lyca
oden

[sly thunder]

Why so many
Daimon+ brutus

[old token]

because it's easy

[sly thunder]

Set up this team, put a macro on and go through ch8 easily

[violet matrix]

Is my team decent? Rowan,Daimon,Raku,Silas,Mishka

[old token]

is okay she's meant to die; her haste hopefully lets oden teleport the scary monsters once or twice before he himself dies lol

even better

[sly thunder]

raku sht without +30

[old token]

youre early enough that daimon can be frontline, but youll eventually want to hide him behind someone

your heroes are fine; play with positioning

dont make careless ascensions

[sly thunder]

Ask myu maybe she can help you to cheese some stages

Then ask again

[violet matrix]

Thank you so much!

[old token]

[violet matrix]

Daimon at front

Okay okay thanks

[old token]

[sly thunder]

tbh you can cheese this stage

[elfin rose]

@old token @pale kettle why exactly Brutus? I thought he wasn't that great

What does he do so well that others can't ?

And what should I do with my hero wish chest

[old token]

immunity, look at his portrait and check out the bottom right skill

if you hide daimon behind brutus, it allows him to snowball into a proper carry

[old token]

wait until you have a carry at 7/8 copies before using

[elfin rose]

Probably Daimon

[old token]

yes

[elfin rose]

Is Daimon also usefull in endgame pve

Or just at the beginning

[old token]

not as much, but i still use him

i think im at the end of midgame tho

safe to have him ascended at 203e00 for a LOOOONG time (mine's been at that level forever)

[elfin rose]

@old token thx for ur help

[old token]

[elfin rose]

@old token i just got Lucretia does this change anything?

[old token]

no, not at elite

minimum M si30 for carry

[quaint kiln]

Mine is 309.60 and i literally do not need alna in gb team to win i can say

[meager plinth]

rn i'm at 6 copies of Daimon + hero chest, need last Q_Q

[royal stag]

Hes kinda niche in campaign but sees some usage from time to time

[wraith spade]

So i see brutus being recommended so much, but he isnt on the wishlist recommended in Phoenix's beginner guide. Should I add him to the wishlist instead of someone else?

im mid way chapter 12

and dont have brutus yet

[old token]

he's not on there because you get a free copy for completing chp 14, and you only really need 1 copy to be effective

[wraith spade]

ok great

guess im not far from getting him then

[old token]

[royal stag]

All he needs is lvl 141 for his immunity

[astral dragon]

I made an alt and its really made me realize how unlucky Ive been on my main 😅 not to mention that for some reason new players currently are getting +20k diamonds really easily and 80-100 scrolls I got way more good heros AND fodder on my alt and Im not even half as far as my main yet

[astral dragon]

Any ideas?

[valid compass]

Backline oden - rowan- daimon frontline mishka- wukong ig

[pale kettle]

Or you can replace wukong with brutus

[sly thunder]

Check pins in #classic-questions for wishlist; there are lots of useless hero ive seen in ur wishlist rn

[old token]

^ what this guy said

[glad quail]

Dont even think I touched it rlly x.x

[sly thunder]

[old token]

[hardy star]

I'm stuck and idk what to do

[dense swift]

try swapping rowan to front where Daimon is, and putting Talene center, Daimon top left

Also you didn't level your fodder heroes huh

[dense swift]

Pulled a nara from a lucky roll, put her in, won after a few tries, thanks again. your advice never fails 👍

[glad quail]

Can't beat

[dense swift]

your team could use healing/support beyond what you have, I would try putting in tasi instead of the Veithael

[hardy star]

Are fodder heros the blue ones? And what should I level them up for?

[dense swift]

They are used for acension material later on, when you have L+ and M heroes they require L+ heroes as material so you give them the fodder. Also when you level the fodder characters, you can put them in the Resonance Stone and put your other chars in the stone slots to get their levels

[hardy star]

Oh ight thanks

[urban sparrow]

I'm thinking of switching Oden for Silas. Or should I just leave it?

[dense swift]

I think Oden is better because you have many healers already. You shouldn't have trouble with stages right now given your power rating

You should however, center Rowan and place Rosaline behind Daimon (and also attach her to Daimon instead)

[old token]

reset wukong and eironn; you should only be leveling 5 heroes at any time

the resonating crystal will level anyone else you put on there

after resetting those two, pump daimon up

[urban sparrow]

Ty for your help. Why does the position matter? And what does attaching Rosaline to daimon do?

[dense swift]

positioning is very important in this game - rowan's ultimate and the range of his potion cart is determined by his position, so if you place him center of your team, when he uses his ultimate he will affect your whole team. you can also place Rowan in the frontline, and his ultimate will stun more enemies since he's further up.

Rosaline has to walk to her target at the start of a match before she does anything, so it can waste time before she starts using her abilities if she's not close by. She provides an attack buff to her attached target, knocks enemies away from them, and heals them. Rosaline's ultimate fully charges the energy of her attached target, so if you put her on Rowan, who also charges energy, it's just kind of redundant lol

you can tap skills in the bottom right of the hero screens then tap the skills to read what they do

[urban sparrow]

Okay awesome tyvm

[old token]

reset your trailing heroes..

[sour kestrel]

any idea to beat this stage

*i've tried moving daimon around and swapping him and lyca, putting daimon at the front, swapping grezhul for thoran, just dont know what to do

[dense swift]

nara to pull isa

[glad quail]

Ye my healer just gets one shot by the assassin idk her name top right, so I stopped using

[sour kestrel]

worked thanks, never seen nara used so never considered

[raven nimbus]

What should my line up be?

[dense swift]

Am I just too low power for this one? Daimon can't hold out long enough, Oden is dropping Estrilda

[dense swift]

Try Thoran and the hypo guy front
Oden Rowan Daimon back

[raven nimbus]

Hypo?

[dense swift]

it also looks like you're not using your resonance stone, considering resetting your chars and leveling fodder units to use in the stone w/ them instead

I don't know his name but it's the hypogean character, 2nd row on the right side legendary

[lilac lodge]

I can't stitch images together properly on my phone

[raven nimbus]

The dude who looks like a zombie esc joker?

[raven nimbus]

Oh I thought you meant next to the legendary

So like this?

[lilac lodge]

Sorry I keep having to ask this but who in crystal next?

[raven nimbus]

So like hogan?

[sour kestrel]

need some help again this time w this stage

[sour kestrel]

closest attempt

[dense swift]

Your power is fairly low for the stage, you may just need to keep trying for some RNG. If Grez is dying quickly, add in Thoran. Nara is not as useful here, if you have Silas put him in but only keep him in if he can get off at least one ability.

Switch Daimon and Wukong

[sour kestrel]

swapped to
grez
brutus
daimon
rowan
oden

closest i've gotten but just cant get enough damage before kaz kills

[dense swift]

Are Mirael and Arden casting? If not, you can probably substitute in more supports with healing to keep Daimon alive

[dense swift]

Let me see your hero roster again

[dense swift]

Try
Brutus Rowan
Lyca Daimon Oden

Are they dying before they use their ultimates/skills?

[sour kestrel]

everyone besides daimon gets instantly killed, might just be an rng battle

[dense swift]

A general rule of thumb is if you're lower than ~55% of the enemy's power rating, it'll be hard to beat. Your heroes are good but your overall power is just a little low

[raven nimbus]

Is this a good line up?

[dense swift]

Keep swapping units around and see what gets closest, or just keep forcing the comp that got the closest and it might RNG itself out

[dense swift]

Looks fine, Rowan should be in the middle. Since you have Brutus, you can sub out Thoran for Brutus and switch the Hypogean dude and Brutus' positions.

[sour kestrel]

might use up my last Merc chance even tho I was hoping to save it for 14-40, looks easier than this somehow

[dense swift]

I'm stuck on 14-40 myself, Mirael wipes everything in one cast lol

[raven nimbus]

Like this?

[dense swift]

If you're open to reseting your characters, leveling fodder, and using the resonance crystal then:

Front: Brutus Daimon
Back: Oden Lyca Silas

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

you also need to set up your wishlist properly, you got some characters who are dead weight

[dense swift]

looks good to me, try it out and see how far you can push

[raven nimbus]

Oh so fodder you mean level miraeal and hogan plus the others and get those guys to max right?

[dense swift]

Yes, the "legendary" heroes. You can use the link I posted above to the beginner's FAQ to make sure you're leveling the right ones

[raven nimbus]

I think I understand, thank you

[rigid sinew]

Could someone help me out with an early game lineup? I’m currently at 5-2

[old token]

max out wukong and have him solo early game

hella boring but tried and true

in the time it takes him to solo, hopefully you pull more useful heroes

make sure your wishlist is setup correctly

good luck

[elfin rose]

Can someone help me with a good lineup, currently at the start of chapter 12, i normally played Brutus,Lyca,Daimon,Rowan and Odin but it didnt work anymore

[valid compass]

Backline Rowan mid, daimon bottom and oden top frontline : Brutus and grez

[sour kestrel]

i've already beaten it but thanks anw

[valid compass]

👍

[dense swift]

those units sound fine, try changing up the formation

[late jackal]

Whats a good line up "stuck on 5-28"

[autumn needle]

I have a swap scroll, using Brutus as front line with Sonja, any recommendations?

[dense swift]

Brutus Wukong
Silas Mirael Eironn

Silas and Brutus together might be a soft int but try it out and see

[short dune]

I know how to deal with tasi, and I know how to deal with early cele diver man, but not both at once

also, how do I fix not having enough fodders on gb while having a relative excess everywhere else from using all scrolls on gb? just time?

[white anchor]

I have a balance?

[pale kettle]

mythic aura with legend?

Hi. Is there a spredsheet for what heroes i should put in the wishlist?

[tulip dagger]

Not really tbh
Dont ascend any more useless heroes to L =earlygame
Run daimon/hogan
Rowa/silas/AwEzizh to lock down certain enemies..

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

Pins in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

alright. thanks

[tulip dagger]

Why are you using pippa when you got A oden
Also yeah, you got two A gbs ofc you lack fodder lmao

[tulip dagger]

Yeah, dont use the scroll.
Get raku +30 Si
Team is hard, maybe try
Est/brutus front
Lyca/rosa/scarlet back
And fox your wishlist, no daimon rowan oden copies are sus

[tulip dagger]

Wu carries until he hits lvl 100
Have you used all the available codes? Summon moooore

[tulip dagger]

Lineup sounds fine, dont ascend any more heroes before having enough copies though
Rowan to M Si+30 asap and +20 to daimon

[rain pike]

I tried copying afkhelper but seems like my thoran dies before he can ult, whats wrong?

[short dune]

trying to drop a thoran on their head, banking on tasi banishing daimon, then daimon returns with full energy while everyone is scared

unfortunately, either thoran dies before teleport, or he dies too late and daimon gets defeated instantly. can try and buy time to either stop banish or get good return timing some other way though

[pale kettle]

Is brutus the optimal tank?

nope his just for stall

So far I am building Raku, Brutus and (Gwen?)

[mild badge]

Help

[mild badge]

Why Gwen

[pale kettle]

she heals

well better then soloise

rowan, scarlet, rosaline, sonja, palmer
brutus, anasta, skreg, kren, skriath
mishka, astar, raku, nevanthi, saurus
daimon, oden, silas, ferael, grezhul

[short dune]

wait pfff I can’t brain, was putting thoran in wrong position for oden usage lol, though now oden exists for too long so daimon gets banished again

[tulip dagger]

Hm idea is good, would try oden for portals though, better dmg and better cc, e+ pippa is just not as safe..

[tulip dagger]

Damn lol

[tulip dagger]

There is no "optimal" tank
He is great though
Wdym "building"?

[tulip dagger]

Nara that isabella

[tulip dagger]

Solise is bad and gwyn too

[mild badge]

I pulled her with Eironn and daimon still doesn’t kill her in time

[tulip dagger]

Nara keeps her down longer and reduces energy, better cc than a single pull

[mild badge]

Well I got no Nara

[tulip dagger]

Athalia? Aw Ezizh?

[pale kettle]

i dunno then. im just using brutus to push stages until i can pull others

I got raku building on the side

[mild badge]

Chapter 13 how am I gonna have any of celestial or hypos, I’m not that lucky

[rain pike]

try this

[mild badge]

Got no Brutus

[tulip dagger]

Show your box pls

[rain pike]

do you have lorsan?

[mild badge]

No

[tulip dagger]

Normal pulls can summon those too

[rain pike]

use merc then

[mild badge]

All I got was arthros

[tulip dagger]

Feelsbad

[short dune]

got it with oden, turns out that oden with call is better than eye there

[mild badge]

I guess I’ll just merc it

[tulip dagger]

Yeah isa+mirael is annoying

[mild badge]

As shit

Well I guess I got Nara now….

[mild badge]

Damn thank you so much, with Nara Isabella can’t even ult, I’m halfway through chapter 14 thx to you

[mild vessel]

Happy new year guys.. im quite new at the game.. playing 2weeks.. any suggestion at what lineup must go? I dont have good supports-healers expect rowan.. please tell me what combo to make..im at 21ch at the moment

[tulip dagger]

Haha quite lucky pull!
Np enjoy the flight 🙂

[tulip dagger]

Get rowan SI +30 asap
Brutus/mishka
Daimon/rowan/flex(lyca, Aw ezizh to lock down certain enemies, other cc like ferael)

[frank fox]

Is my team okay? Im kinda stuck in this level
Can someone help me build my team?

[dense swift]

main issue is you're relying on daimon to carry but you have no support to help him stall - sub out arden with Pippa and you should see immediate improvement

[short dune]

this early, pippa’s opening teleport is likely to tp an ally regardless of positioning, so maybe for backline, from top to bottom: pippa, oden, arden. try to keep oden slightly faster than pippa to take advantage of stun

[pallid owl]

halp im in 3 or 4 days losetreak in campaign and king tower hahaha (edit: asolise is my main carry at the moment)

[white anchor]

Like this?

[torpid vigil]

I just re started, what team should I try and build with this?

[tulip dagger]

Daimon front, rowan mid back otherwise yes
In this case maybe ezizh opposite of mirael to lock her down

[safe tide]

Who to merc

[sour bolt]

better wutus or maybe anasta or kren

[raw elk]

worth making mythic Lyca instead of Thoran for now? dont think i should myth any graveborns before ascending Daimon

[safe tide]

@sour bolt no one has a a Brutus I can merc and normal Brutus didn't do it and kren also didn't do it

[sour bolt]

have u tried anasta? 309e60

[sly thunder]

Anty

[mild badge]

Reset scarlet lvl up daimon to be carry

[raw elk]

resetting will do nothing. maybe i will have 160 daimon (but doubt) and loose nice support. scarlete i need for now. daimon will be 160+ tomorrow i hope.

[dense swift]

Suggestions for what to do here? Daimon is getting bursted after all other units fall

[raw elk]

so its the same we have - give time for daimon not to be killed quickly to be ready to do his job.

[sour bolt]

@raw elk @dense swift when u get to 141 if u have a brutus you could try playing around with it

[raw elk]

mine is on screenshot

[sour bolt]

Regular

[raw elk]

just thinking about lyca.

[sour bolt]

Could work too just play around with it

[raw elk]

think 141 abrutus is not worse than 141 brutus - more power plus 2 skills give about the same 7 sec plus some damage

[mild badge]

121 is enough for Brutus in chap 15

[sour bolt]

[raw elk]

nothing is enough when we can make more)

anyway, i just want to understand - make lyca mythic or not

[mild badge]

Is you can make him 141 go ahead but lvls 122-140 won’t do anything to Brutus

[mild badge]

No, use her for haste only

[raw elk]

i need 140 to make diamon 161

[mild badge]

Then go ahead

Brutus doesn’t get any use from in between skill lvls in early game

[raw elk]

then why system gave me 6 copies of her already))

[mild badge]

But if you need him lvl 140 to lvl daimon then go ahead

[mild badge]

I’m chapter 16 with ascended daimon

[raw elk]

i need 1 more daimon copy

[raw elk]

i was talking about lyca. 6 copies(

[mild badge]

Save fodder, she won’t carry you. In early game she’s just useful for haste

Just ascend her if you need to raise lvl cap

[raw elk]

hm. maybe

[old token]

[pale kettle]

Hey

[raven egret]

Here’s what I got in terms of dims and heroes. What are some good comps I should be building? I don’t use Queen or Ezio hardly at all rn

[late jackal]

I have used like 4 codes is there any more (I did the recent one)

[pale kettle]

uf4shqjngq
misevj66yi
afk888
Brutus2022
rynfzjk85y
XANADU
don2023

[sly thunder]

Comps for what? Pvp? Pve? Tower?

[raven egret]

Everything tbh. The facts that I’m still at ch38 with this box and rc frustrates me. And same with not using Queen or Ezio a lot? I hear q5p and Luc invade a lot, I don’t use either of those (just Luc5p). Main thing is how to utilize Queen and Ezio more in all aspects of the game

[sly thunder]

Luc invade is mostly used from ch38
Queen for q5p yeah, and ezio in dim comp. Not many people use PoP nowadays, and arthur was replaced by JoA in pvp

[raven egret]

Damn so I got it all swapped around. Where can i find q5p and Luc invade comps? I can’t seem to find them on Reddit anywhere

[sly thunder]

I dont use reddit much so i cant find it for you but you can copy clears from afkhelper to see how luc invade works, its easy just use luc with dd and other buff heroes such as skreg hodgkin etc..
And q5p is queen+eironn+chicken+ 2 more heroes, mostly a dps and a support/tank such as zolrath, talene, brutus

[raven egret]

Gotcha. Thanks I’ll look into those

[olive wadi]

hi, is a lvl 140 legendary+ daimon better or Ainz? (linking ainz to daimon)

[raven egret]

Daimon. Ainz isn’t gonna carry as hard without a good supporting team like daimon can early on

[olive wadi]

thank you

[raven egret]

Of course

[tulip dagger]

=endgamecomps

[cloud nexus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/r8nr68/endgame_pve_formations_visual_guides_redorb/

[tulip dagger]

Ainz wants Si+20 min and 9 furn + albedo with Si+30 to be really efficient, getting daimon to M and maxing his Si is a way faster powerspike

[raven egret]

Thank you!

[grave stirrup]

any good campaign teams?

[dense swift]

Daimon Thoran
Oden Rowan Silas

[grave stirrup]

i'll try that

[glad quail]

Anything better I could be using or placing differently?

Very stuck

[dense swift]

Brutus Daimon
Oden Nara Silas

Try that, if it doesn't work you can try Tasi for Silas

Could also do
Brutus Daimon
Oden Mirael Tasi/Silas

[ocean wharf]

I came back to my team after over a year break for reasons to find out that I had 3 supports on my main team, can someone help me?

[mild badge]

Reroll honestly

[ocean wharf]

What does that mean

[mild badge]

Make a new account

That’s what basically I did, but I still play main account some time

[ocean wharf]

Is it that bad?

[mild badge]

It’s just easier to start fresh, you don’t even have much of good stuff, if you want to you can keep playing there is nothing wrong with that

You can play both of them even

And check out #faq-resources

[ocean wharf]

Ok, could you spare some tips so I don't run into this problem again? I would like to avoid something like this in the future

[mild badge]

My tip is to go to #faq-resources, it’s really useful and I’m following it rn

[ocean wharf]

Ok ty

[mild badge]

Reset oden and lvl up daimon to max, he should be your carry

Oh my bad, you have resources to lvl up 4 heroes to at least lvl 101?

You can reset the E heroes and lvl up E+ heroes, then put the heroes you need into the crystal

[steep vale]

Any tips? 😁

[cobalt owl]

Regarding this exact stage try swapping Daimon and Eiron. And if you have spots in RC I would put some supports there. Like Silas etc

Other tips like have your Daimon 20 - 40 lvls above you team

[elfin rose]

Hey what would be the best comp with these heroes ?

for campaign

[steep vale]

RC?

[cobalt owl]

Resonating crystal iirc

[steep vale]

Ohh allrightt

Did what you said imma try this

[cobalt owl]

Try Daimon/ Tane / Silas / Rowan / mishka or some other tank. Experiment with Daimon and Tane. I would build a team around these heroes

[elfin rose]

Thx

[dire root]

i have no clue where to go
my friend told me to build tassy so im on that and my joker is off lend (i need to rent twice again before i get him🪦 )
(slow mode)

talene is there becuse i dont have joker rn and im desprate

[unkempt parcel]

what are those L characters

[dire root]

idk im not good at this

[unkempt parcel]

you should read beginner guides in #classic-questions pinned, just msgd to say that. I dont really know how mishka is in campaign cuz im new as well

[dense swift]

That is... an incredibly large number of L heroes without fodder. I think you'll have to just play a bit slower than most due to lack of materials to ascend with

[dire root]

ok

[dense swift]

Maybe try putting in Brutus if you're getting wiped before casting, other than that I assume your account is fairly old since you have a strong Shemira instead of Daimon

[dire root]

yeahh, i just got back into it after a while

[rugged atlas]

Any recommendations on team?

[dense swift]

Try:
Brutus Rowan
Oden Pippa Daimon

Also do not make more L copies

[rugged atlas]

L copies?

[dense swift]

Legendaries

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[rugged atlas]

Ohhh the Baden I had pulled

[rugged atlas]

Ok ok should I level Nd prioritize em?

[dense swift]

In that case grats you're super lucky

You prioritize daimon and level fodder to put in resonance crystal, you might be able to just use the baden as well but I'm not familiar with him

[tulip dagger]

^ would swap rowan and pippa and and replace pippa with Aw Baden

Use baden, Awakened heroes are busted early on 🙂

[rugged atlas]

okkkkk will do thx guys!

[tulip dagger]

Coax is right on the other stuff too haha
Level baden + fodders for crystal level and use daimon as carry along with baden

Baden gets replaced once you get a 5th fodder to L+
=Earlygame check this and pins in #classic-questions for best guidance

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[rugged atlas]

Ab to check it out rn

[rugged atlas]

🥲

[rugged atlas]

What exactly would u have on the team to be sure?

[dense swift]

Front: Brutus Baden
Back: Oden Rowan Daimon

Make sure Rowan is in the middle back position

[rugged atlas]

Legend🔥

[tulip dagger]

Rowan shares health pots with adjecent spots only, if he is on the edges he cant give em to everybody

[astral dragon]

I need a carry for the ancient ruins Im getting shit on by the maulers

[fallow badge]

Any recommendations for a lineup please... frontline and backline.... a few of the characters are lvl 160 because of resonating crystals..I'm currently stuck on 16-36

Yh I've been upgrading the champions without really knowing what I'm doing

[sharp siren]

Can i get some help woth formation? Currently at 10-40, so far was using (1)mishka, (2)veithael, (3)daimon, (4)rowan, (5) raku

[quasi jacinth]

who can help me to team up

[meager onyx]

I`m stuck at 10-27 - any suggestions what to do now? Still newbie, playing like 5 days

[tulip dagger]

Lucretia

The problem is called isabella, can be solved with nara if you got her

Would kick out wu in general as he outlived his usefulnes, waiting for you box in any channel
Nvm just checked below, brutus replaces wu

[pale kettle]

can i ascend awakened solise with normal or need 3 awakened

[tulip dagger]

Need two extra awakened for each L+ Aw

[pale kettle]

man fuck this shit 😭

[tulip dagger]

Expensive af, thats why we recommend saving 500-600 tix per Aw

[tulip dagger]

Well first of all you kinda messed up your ascensions, hold off ascending anything but fodders until you got copies for now
Ideally you want daimon and rowan to M and unlock their Si (daimon +20 rowan +30)

Could run grez/brutus
Oden/rowan/daimon

Reset all the levelled heroes below your first 5 waste of resources
Rowan, raku, thoran, wu, belinda, saurus out of crystal
Rowan thoran brutus ferael nada in

Wu out for brutus

Hm you will have a hard time then, you should be able to get nara from an early chapter reward chest

Brutus/daimon
Oden/silas/lyca might do the trick, oden stealing isa energy if lucky

Oh wait does he have his i vincibility shield unlocked yet?

Dont level oden btw

[fallen dagger]

Any suggestions? please help

[tulip dagger]

Level fodders not heroes
Replace raku with scarlet or oden for some cc and sub dps, vei can stay for now ig oe be replaced by a fodder tank like golus or hogan

Might be a positioning issue or just getting to lvl cap and only needing some ascensions

[cobalt owl]

Bruh

[fallen dagger]

HEY I'M TRYING

[tulip dagger]

Ooof bro =earlygame
Your ascensions are all over the place..
Dont make any more L heroes without 8 copies to take em to A

Lineup wise hard to say
Aw thane/daimon
Nevanthi/rowan/lyca?

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

Explains it lol
Well sorry, patience and fodder ascensions once you got more, mirael is really close to L+ and some others too
Just the boring wait for now, maybe do other modes with mercs

[cobalt owl]

Btw, Brutus inv is from lvl 61

[violet matrix]

Am i doing this right? And btw who should i put in resonating crystal

[tulip dagger]

Check guide above, you want to level fodders not actual heroes

Nara hook the goatman and replace silas with rowan
Could make an L+ mirael rn, one more e+ wilder for an L+ thete and two more maulers
Doing good

[meager onyx]

thx, levelling what my main mistake I guess 😉

[tulip dagger]

Alna out of crystal and team for now, replace with brutus, swap positions so brutus tanks the saveas spears
Otherwise fine for now, should be doable of daimon doesnt get skewered by the goat

[tulip dagger]

Yeah rc lvl 100 probably the issue hah

[glad quail]

Thank you, worked ^-^

[dense swift]

I dunno if it's because I'm underleveled now but ch 16 is really kicking my ass around

[tulip dagger]

Oof might be worth a restart tbh.. so many L

Well where do i start, ascend fodders, nothing else except L to L+ once you got copies

Satrana izold ira luc ud sword fodder mehira flora out of crystal

Scarlet oden nevanthi in

Reset lvl on wu, safyia, nevanthi

Lineup wise
Brutus/thoran
Belinda/rowan/oden

Fix your wishlist of you want to continue this acc.. no daimon no fera

[tulip dagger]

Levelling looks fine yea
Keep brutus as far ahead as possible he will carry for now

Lineup
AwBrutus/mishka
Daimon/oden/ferael

[tulip dagger]

Could be the issue lol

[violet matrix]

Thank you so much ❤️

[dense swift]

Possibly too low?

not having Brutus at 141 has been kinda oof

yes, you want the fodders at L+ and to hold them

[tulip dagger]

Got more fodders than before?

Earlier you had 3 e+ mirael and no others

You need 4 e+ fodders to take one to L+

Nope haha only fodder for fodder

[tulip dagger]

Ye brutus would help
Nara to help take down niru ig?
Checl if daimon survives front

Daimon/brutus
Lyca/rowan/oden

Feel free to ask if anything remains unclear thats why we are here haha

When ascending later make sure to keep one extra mirael copy
So e+ mirael + two fodders to L
And then L mirael + e+ mirael to L+

[fallen dagger]

Thanks (I fixed all the problems 👍 )

[wooden orchid]

Can someone suggest me a team please
Also what heros should I have on my res crystal that I don't at the moment

@tulip dagger

[pale kettle]

@wooden orchiddaimon brutus rowan ferael oden

[fallow badge]

Okay if I'm understanding correctly run

frontline: Grez and Brutus

Backline: oden, rowan, daimon

reset everyone below the champions that are mythic or in red and add rowan, thoran, brutus, ferael, and nada in resonating crystal

[shell remnant]

any team comp suggestion? stuck on 23-42

[steep vale]

I think i misplaced it of characters

[tulip dagger]

Mishka crystal otherwise fine

Mishka/brutus
Fera(oden, lyca, nara)/rowan/daimon

Ye or what shimona said

Depends on deficits and if daimon dies too fast front

[pale kettle]

@steep valeu can actually use lucretia until chapter 13 with 1 copy

[tulip dagger]

Below red+ daimon to have 5 heroes for crystal

[tulip dagger]

Stop ascending heroes without enough copies for A
Rowan Si+30

Normal Brutus/thoran
Daimon/rowan/scarlet, oden, lyca, eironn

[pale kettle]

and wishlist is very important early

u need the right heroes or you will get stuck

[tulip dagger]

Swap daimon and silas and see how it goes

[steep vale]

Only lucretia?

[pale kettle]

u need supports

[dense swift]

what is that brutus + rowan comp that sometimes is in the clear thing? it seems to havea legendary brutus and a rowan and that's it

[tulip dagger]

Wishlist correct? Follow =earlygame for levelling
Wu out of crystal, he goes to 100 asap and carries until then

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[tulip dagger]

Well for some it works for some it doesnt
Seen some brutus+daimon only clears too not sure about the retries though

[tulip dagger]

Luc usually not recommended pre M

Many heroes can go to ch 13 with overlevelling and supports

[pale kettle]

ye but it depends on your summon

[tulip dagger]

Daimon>luc without any investments

[pale kettle]

@tough crownu might try to restart and correct wishlist

[honest knoll]

Should i replace Mortas with someone else in campaign? I kinda feel like he barely has any impact

[trail mango]

if he ults he has impact. if he doesn't, he doesn't

his ult is huge

[wooden orchid]

Any advice

[dense swift]

try swapping daimon and rowan

[wooden orchid]

Tried moving stuff around with multiple retries have yet to pass it :p

[dense swift]

If you have Nara, put her where Oden is, move Oden to bottom, and take out Will Ferrell

[dense swift]

Nara in top left, she needs to cc Mirael

Nara

Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Oden

[wooden orchid]

They all just die so fast lol

[dense swift]

Swap Brutus and Rowan

[wooden orchid]

5k dust from levelling daimon will be like a week I think

[dense swift]

Since Oden is dropping Lucretia on top of Rowan

[wooden orchid]

Mercs used already
Guess I'll wait a week to take daimon to 160

[dense swift]

I would say run it a few times because I wasn't that much stronger than your comp at that stage and managed to clear it after many attempts

[wooden orchid]

I'll keep trying probably done over 100 attempts so far just need all the stars to align with the right rng

[short dune]

dw the attempts taken to clear can get stupidly high later lol

[wooden orchid]

Yeah I know I remember before I quit I'd literally retry hundreds of time to pass a single stage lmao

[dense swift]

some other random things to do are the king's tower, peaks of time, wondrous pouch, just to push a little extra resources

I think your team can do it, just needs that lucky RNG

[tulip dagger]

Any cc hero tbh
Oden would work
Or mishka front instead of daimon or vei
You might have a problem on that stage as saveas targets daimon right away

[tulip dagger]

Daimon front should work at those deficits, brutus only gets his shield at 141, might be worth replacing him for now
Also try swapping fera and oden
Post box maybe for brutus replacement if it still doesnt work

[tulip dagger]

Ah yes, might be worth to swap rowan to bot left position brutus snags the health potion too fast

[tulip dagger]

This one looks doable with rng tbh
Sorry for the many reply pings

[wooden orchid]

I don't knownwho else to use as a tank res crystal is on cooldown so I can put mishka in as per your suggestion that's my box

[tough crown]

is this okay now?

[valid compass]

It’s always the stages with fawkes for me

Any hero that I can build up to counter that team?

[wooden orchid]

You think it's worth getting shemira to L+ as fodder for daimon to get him to mythic

[frozen osprey]

Any team comps

[old token]

People say don't do it, but those same people probably wouldn't fault you for foddering Shemira

I didn't fodder her and am using her as a dimensional link

[tulip dagger]

Golus tanks well too haha
Made it already?

[wooden orchid]

I haven't yet

[wooden orchid]

Unsure what to do so haven't pulled the trigger on anything for fear of making a mistake

[tulip dagger]

Hard to say, some people say yes some no
I'm leaning towards no but you wont be using or ascending her anytime soon

[tulip dagger]

No mistakes to be made just changing lineups and attacking again and again

[wooden orchid]

I'm in this game for the long run (deffo not whale status) but don't wanna harm myself in the long term If you know what I mean

[tulip dagger]

Did you change anything?
Should be levelling fodders not actual heroes and let lvl 100 wu kong carry you as far as possible then daimon takes over

[tulip dagger]

Yeah sure, you cant mess up except making ascensions too early or messing up fodder ascensions tbh
Just keep summoning and pushing

[tulip dagger]

Swap brutus daimon so he doesnt get estrilada charged?

[wooden orchid]

That's what I mean I get shemira probably isn't too useful right now but eventually will be useful at the very least as a dimensional link so whilst the mythic daimon night be good I'm not sure If the instant benefit will outweigh the long term

[tulip dagger]

First of all dont ascend lucius further (max L+ once copies are pulled but he shouldnt be on your WL anyway)
Level and ascend fodders
=Earlygame
Wu carries some time

[cloud nexus]

How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828

[valid compass]

daimon is getting oneshotted when i swap with brutus

[tulip dagger]

I think you will have to ascend other heroes before her and lack fodder for those so she will sit on the bench for quite some time lmao

[wooden orchid]

Oh yeah for sure but as someone with far more experience and understanding what would you do in my position

[tulip dagger]

Mind posting your entire box? Maybe there is a raku team you could make, how far is luc from +30?

[valid compass]

not far i need like 30 red emblems

i only have 1 mythic fun for her tho and not ascneded yet, need couple more copies

[tulip dagger]

I'm a collector so i never foddered 4F heroes, if you would decide to fodder shemira to speed up your progress its legit, not sure how fast you can get more fodders/stones at your stage tbh

[wooden orchid]

The reality is I probably don't get too many
I can't push campaign rn anyway as I'm missing 5k dust to take daimon to 160

Only 7 days in so to say I'm new would be an understatement

[tulip dagger]

Just saying that i'm sitting on 9 E+ shemira rn and started using excess as fodder but i'm around a few years by now lol

[tulip dagger]

M works fine for her to begin with tbh

Makes her scale with deaths

[valid compass]

I have a bunch of scrolls, I can roll for a specific character if needed

[tulip dagger]

Off to work, will be back later

[valid compass]

Ah ok👍 I’ll try finish her si30 off as fast as possible then

[wooden orchid]

Thanks for the help fodder semira yay or nay

[valid compass]

See you 👍

[stark pine]

Any team comps?

[glacial orbit]

Any good formations to beat this stage ?

[tulip dagger]

Luc wants raw stats so every investment (ascension, furn, engraving) helps
Furn especially as it helps keeping enemies under control as she is, as strong as she may be, pretty squishy

[tulip dagger]

Eh, its a yay from me
If you want ask in #classic-questions but there is no general consensus on those decisions, every factions has a few heroes deemed useless

[tulip dagger]

Could wait for one more E+ fodder so you only need one shemira maybe

[wooden orchid]

That's not a bad idea I think I'll wait till I've accumulated the 5k dust to level daimon and reasses the situation based on my pulls; a yay from you is good enough for me you certainly provide a lot of help especially to me over the past few days so thank you very much for your time and insight it is greatly appreciated

[tulip dagger]

So many L, and L+ shem, considered restarting?
=Earlygame
Teamwise
Brutus/thoran
Daimon/rowan/fera
You can get there in a day or two again especially with the free hero code rn