#lineup-help
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Hey all, I'm a few days into the game and I'm stuck at chapter 10
Sorry I mean chapter 11-24
Hii i would like some help in my 3rd team i AM in chatear 33-4, this are my current teams and my some of my Heroes
Ideally, Lucretia but she’s only e+. You have a mehira copy?
Only e or e+
Just one. E
I have a copy yes
You could do a charm comp. Brutus+Mehira+Rosa following mehira. The dps in that comp is usually Raku, but I don’t see him in your box?
Mehira in spot 4
Only elite rakus
You could try it. Technically Raku should’ve been your second +30
I see you’re gazing Alna first over Lucretia. Grez needs his 9F and Alna needs 309 to make that pair a viable comp
Yes, for now Its working but now i need AM 3rd team and i am stuck now in 33-4
I did it with this formation
I did trade the Leonardo from the daimon team with Raine
What’s a good idea for a team? Would ASolise and AThane work together? Am only at campaign 17 rn 🙂
who should I build for campaign progression?
Im kinda Stuck at campaign rn, my mentor told me to play something like grezhul but idk how good he is or what team i should Use
This is my box and i also got 2 RC Slots left, any advice on what team to use?
I got really far with daimon, thoran and oden, lucius is good but idk about the rest
Nara for geralt? And maybe rowan/Lyca for silas? Just a suggestion, I don't usually help here 
Nara to pull the isa, lyca for haste/energy buff. I assume silas just gets killed by sil
Also, stop leveling everyon else. Get Daimon to 160
Im out of essence, once i got enough i will level daimon to 160
So just wait until u have more essence
Yea but by that time i already got the others to 140
Nara and lyca get killed aswell
Just save all blue until u can get Daimon to 141, then full send him to 160
Can u show a replay
How
Screen recorder?
Ah my connection isnt good where im at
So i wouldnt be able to send a video
But pretty much nara gets killed by sil oneshot
Try rowan instead of silas then so he takes sil. Maybe Lyca instead of thoran or ferael. Play around with it or look at afkhelper
Dont have rowan
Try ur og formstion then swap geralt for nara? Silas will take sil and then Nara pull isa?
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Ty lol but Theres no general team that would work better?
Cuz im alrdy stuck at another stage
Team is always enemy dependent. Like how there was an Isabelle u had to deal with here
anyone got an ukyo-less 42-28 clear?
I see but i mean theres some units that are always good to use right?
Yes, it's just u gotta know how and when to use em. Like Nara for instance. If there's not a problem target like mirael or isa on the enemy. Then use someone else
hi all, what's the best soren lineup at the moment?
can someone help me, i need 3 teams for campaign
ainzbedo( get bedo si30 pls)
gbs
luc( need skriath 3f for 5pull, for now just put 4 hypo fodder for faction bonus)
raku charm( need raku si30)
thoran cheese( need pippa si20 mostly, and thoran si30 from ch35)
I have a general problem against assasins. My backlaners die within a second and then my carry and tank just die aswell. I'm not sure if I'm using the wrong heros or formations but I wanted to ask for general tips with assasins. Also this stage in particular
Can someone help me with hunters rewards stage 2? 😅 I just run out of time lol
Check the pinned formations in #classic-questions
Thank you ^^ I tried using the pinned formations and can only get 1 star for most and I cant finish stage 8 so stuck there. Any more tips?
Been saving a ton of resources and have enough to get Yennefer when the exchange starts. I also still have the $15 first dimensional hero discount. Worth it, or think I should hold off to see who comes next?
Trying to be largely f2p so have to be tight with my resources
Would appreciate some help, hard stuck atm. Ferael terrifies whole team and have no way to counter.
Is it even possible guys?
Would love some pointers on who to keep in my RC. Mainly working on campaign and lvling. Here's my box currently.
Imo grez, scarlet, saurus, Zol, flora out. Ferael, thoran, mauler sphinx girl in. Also I recommend ascending grez last unless it is the only one you can do.
Did you try afkhelper? Maybe try swapping Daimon and Silas or use grez for Silas.
the legendary are my team
Im trying to find someone to switch with mirael, who should i get?
Follow =earlygame
Daimon is a great carry but dont take useless stuff like brutus or lucius past e+ unless you got copies
You want to ascend more fodders
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
=endgamecomps
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i already have my lucius leg+, should i assend him with my mireal?
Nooo lucius sucks
Read the thing above
ok thanks
so now i just level fodders
Need help with a line up? I can’t seem to get past this stage? Who should I work on from here and who should I reset ( if anyone )?
Indeed! And dont ascend anything else
ok thx
Im really struggling with this, maybe I just need to ascend heroes more?
I'm relatively new just been upgrading what I think was cool but any tip or lineup for campaign?
replace solise’s spot with saurus forgot his name
if solise survives long enough to ult you should be good
So you outheal the vampire dude’s ult
Have you already tried using Daimon?
Lucius as your tank in the frontline, definitely use daimon in middle back
Saurus can work ok in campaign
Eirronn can work ok in the frontline
I recommend using Daimon middle back, Nevanthi bottom back, Silas top back, Eironn frontline, Lucius frontline
Depending on your RNG your lineup could change a bit.
Level Daimon higher than everyone else because he is your carry
I haven’t no, I don’t have enough gear for him
Okay, I’ll try to work on Daimon
Eironn works better in backline
Anybody available to help me I've got quite a few heros and have no idea what I'm doing 😅
are skreg good for campaign ?
Stop ascending heroes you're not using above elite+ ( you're wasting food for nothing )
I restarted 😛
Hello Hivemind, I just started and did some draws lately (therefore the three L and all those E/E+). gonna swap wu kong out as carry and due to hitting level caps, i will rebuild my lineup. Also got the 5th RC slot just now. Do you have any recommendations what to focus/ build around?
Thoughts on best PVP team(s)
Just try to save all your daimon copies, he is your best bet at getting a Ascended hero and he has a good SI.
Fair enough, it’s an alt and not too serious but that gives some ideas. I don’t expect to compete heavy as this account is on server 714 or so but making the best of what I have
Suggestions for PVP?
https://afkit.tools/displayHeroes.php?link=26b259c03ca46bf7487c
Thanks
Please help me with this stage
Just build one hero, recommended daimon. You also need a good wish list to build good teams
You are on the right track to build rowan just don't make too many Legendary, said just in case
ok thanks
AEzizh across from Tasi
whos out?
Newbie with 3 awakened heroes broke my heart
Put mishka in front, it she doesn't ult put Rowan. Switch daimon and Oden
Passed first try thanks bro

any ideas?
Try and use the fodder heroes. Like Arden’s CC etc.
okay cool
Any ideas rat boy is dumping on me
I am stuck at 12-4, any tips on who should i ascend further?
@plain sail put Nara, Rowan and Brutus on crystal they would help much
@cursive spear pull him using Nara hook and put Rowan in

any ideas for this stage? the 1st fight (2nd picture here) i win it with that team, not sure what to do for 2nd team or if to move some toons around from 1st team. Checked afk helper, all teams have ainz+bedo, still missing some garrison stones to merc them
i don't have Nara and Brutus 💀
Oden and Silas is really help alot
What would you guys say a good campaign line-up would be using these? I don't know anything about team synergy
Ainz or alna comp
how do you only have 1 si 30
And even that one doesn't need +30 
wdym daimon op
Help pls I have been using pop damion oden/Lyca(based on if I need pop cc faster) thoran Brutus and this comp work for me up to 30-36 but now I can't go anymore what should I do plus I don't have thoran si30
I some time used ferael when pop didn't work usually against vurk poison traps
What should I focus on
u need daimon 3f
also since u have brutus mythic get him to +20 and stop yhere
Ok thanks I'll do it
Have not been playing for an enormous amount of time and
don't know how to manage resources yet :,)
nice
who should i focus on
Help idk what to do, im stuck on 11-36
want some cores? take mine
how many are we talking
A lot
whale
No need to thank me
ok not gonna thank u

jk tyvm
Bank is rich today
Sharing is caring
Should I feed some non-fodder graveborns to level up some others? Which should I level and which should I feed?
Hello i cant do This stage, is there something that i can do?
Is there something off about this? I can't continue where I am in the chapters. The only thing I can do is collect the afk rewards.
Please help with this stage
Yes, what off is that you got M thane…
You make too many L
If you already got thane M no need for another L thane, keep at E+
good idea, but it's kinda too late. I've been stuck for months and the only thing I could do is collect AFK rewards. If my heroes are not made right, then I think I ruined it
For months?? I think you better making new acc, just switch to a new sever, no need to delete this one
Also ask people for a wish list
that the base of everything
what do you mean, wishlist?
yea wishlist for summoning heroes
oh
Also focus on build daimon he only can carry you to chap 20
daimon is a hero, right?
yea
alright
Just ask people of discord for help
I just started a new profile. Now, I want to find somebody to keep me company just in case that I do something wrong.
If I have nobody, I'm guaranteed to do something wrong unless I figure it out before it happens
dm
Follow the wishlist pinned in #classic-questions and read this =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Check out the comps on https://afkhelper.nax.is/
Hello everyone
Is there someone here who have ukyo with dura calls artifact?? I need him for chapter 42, can I merc him please
Hi, Any tips on chapter 24-44?
Again, show what you are using in thst fight lol
Of course sorry, this is what I usually go with:
Daimon front too squishy by now probably
Dont 9f and +30 him thats too early and overkill..
Try brutus/lyca
Daimon, rowan (get him to 30 instead), +flex could try oden for cc, safyia for shield, AwEzizh to lock down an enemy
@civic loom
After rowan, raku +30
Follow =earlygame you have literally no carry rn
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
No real reason to you only made 2L heroes
Have you used all the codes yet?
Thanks a lot @tulip dagger
Yeah i have
Oh i see a daimon in there, you got a carry
Just follow the text above and you will be fine soon
Okay thank you
I used mishka thoran to carry early game
I can’t beat 13-38 for the life of me and I don’t think there’s anything I can do, I end up maybe killing one and getting the rest to 50% health and Daimon/Estrilda always end up being the last ones standing, everyone else ends up dying within 15 seconds
I’ve tried all the possible formations. Same results
Trying to beat forsaken necropolis 660 with this recommended winning formation (all of them are like this) and I have several hours on auto now not beating it
Any recommendations on alternative lineups?
1,2,3,4 for positions
I use the top line and estrilda
I just needed to complain and it worked out for me 🫠
Complain strat is real
I wanna build a team for twisted realm
Is this team good I'm very new
Get kinda close, so it is beatable
im just new who should i be using ?
you kinda fucked up by making all of those legendaries the only thing you should be making legendary atm should be fodder
I haven’t played in a while, what teams could I be using?
Here’s a couple I’ve thought of?
I’d read the pins in #classic-questions and restart on the newest server. Looks like your wishlist wasn’t set up correctly
Think I’m doing better so far :)
Any help with that? Already won round 1 with luc 5 pull so they are used. Can also Merc any other hero other thank full built thoran if needed
try raku pos 4 thoran pos 2 remove lorsan
can also do ferael instead of oden and remove his mythic weap
then swap brotus for thoran so he sweeps enemy fera
Thanks that worked 🙂
Any help with hunter rewards 11? Comp from question pins doesn't work, maybe my heroes are not good enough
Check questions pinned Messages
Like I wrote, this is the comp from question pin but doesn't work for me
i did scarlet L now
Can I have someone to keep me company just in case that I do something wrong? I restarted a new profile, bc I ruined my main.
Anyone has a tier list link especially for early game? trying to figure out which heroes to focus on
Having issues lol
Coming back from a very very very long 1 year+ break. May I ask for soem guidance. Should I reset some heros and invest in others? Currently at chp 9 when I returned
This is for #classic-questions but I think restart would be way better. You aren't far in the game so restart and look at the pins in questions for beginner tips
Ty will do
Np
I’m getting destroyed by this stage, would appreciate any help
Who would be the best healer for now between Silas, Desira, and Nevanthi?
Silas
Thanks
do you have elite mehira? 
No 😭
Tbh I'd try with Mishka and Brutus as tanks, raku instead Lyca and manual it
Bet, I’ll try it out
Got demolished again LOL
What's a good counter for assassins? They're killing me
why is your grez 0 si
What level should I make it?
Right when i upgraded si i stomped the stage ty
Currently stuck on stage 22-2 and just lookin for advice from some more experienced players. My current line up is top 5 but i switch eironn and Talene in occasionally.
First and foremost dont upgrade to m+ if you cant make em ascended, same with legendary
Ascend your daimon, also shemira and thane are kinda eh
I would go: daimon brutus lyca rowan (if you get one to mythic) and maybe Lucius
having trouble figuring out what teams to use, feel like my rc is high enough to clear ch37. could someone help me make 5 teams with what i've got?
why tf ur alna is still E+
well 5 team for you
luc, gbs, thoran( he can work at 3f but get him 9f will reduce the rng), ainz, ldv raku or raku charm with scarlet or mishka, depends
all of them are going well except thoran
i must be doing something wrong because its not working
What’s your level deficit?
100
Oh, Thoran probably won’t work then
oh rip
You can probably do two stun teams. Raku ldv on one and Mishka kren on the other
Kren is invade style so skreg and tidus might help
?
this one ain't working either
@barren zealot those 5 and these are all i have left for that stage
Oh, a Flora stage. Have you looked on AFKHelper for clears at a similar deficit? I’m not the best at low deficit since I keep mine pretty high
Someone pls help with this stage
rowan brutus daimon ferael oden
ok
My ferael died the first sec of the battle
Pretty sure u can ainz that stage
It's pretty much the same as 35-16 and 36-16
hmm maybe mishka instead of him, brutus has to be against estrilda, but rest play around with different things using those heroe
I passed, just awakened ezizh stun that shield dude in front
ah nice
didnt see that you have aezhiz
aezhiz helpful all the time with the stun
yup
@abstract granite Please help with this stage, sorry for asking a lot, just want to finish this chapter today
Brutus Aezhiz daimon oden lyca
I will unlock something weird at the Labyrinth after this stage
Oh , ah dismal lab I think
Basically better lab rewards but its is a bit tougher
I didn't put Lyca on rc yet
Hmm, maybe Mishka or rowan instead
nvm I can now
worked thank you
@abstract granite 13 more to go
maybe brutus rowan aezhiz oden/mihska daimon
double daimon I don't understand?
ah rowan in front not daimon
:0 sorry
np, my mistake
nope
hmm, try rowan brutus daimon ferael oden, tasi is a pain so try for rng where ferael can stop her from banishing daimon
yeah but my ainz comp is on the 4th one
no matter where i put it that mishka/kren comp fails
ok thank you
if that doesnt work put aezhiz instead of ferael and put him against tasi
I tried, couldn't stun them
maybe try this
:0
yea should get it, if it almost got it
or maybe that the best I can get cause it's far from over now
20
Anyone I should use the red swap scroll on (my current team is daimon silas estrilda Odin and awakened thane + I want the new awakened character)
I'm on chapter like 26 now as well
did you really look at the guides?
Read pins in #classic-questions
I’m looking at them now atm
Where are you looking
The one on Reddit
Redorbs formation guide?
First read pins in #classic-questions
A lot of Reddit guides are outdated and you’ll get confused
Ok
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
whats the best wellrounded general purpose team i can make with my heroes?
I need a team for pve, what should I use?
Get+30 Albedo and use dims
friends any idea? i stuck at chapter 8 what monster is the good one? for PVE?
Is there anything I should change in my lineup? Not currently struggling but just wanna know if I'm making any mistakes
According to afk helper, I should pass the level with these heroes. But I’m not. Where did I do wrong?
Albedo+30 and Ainz nearly +30.
Ezio and Albedo are garrisoned.
I am stargazing for lucretia and need 4 more copies for awakened.
So i get geralt, lucretia awakened and then what ?
Can i skip arthur if i have ezio and skip merlin for Yennifer?
Who to stargaze after lucretia ?
Thanks a lot and regards 😄
Meta scarlet first get then spend on others 😰
Stargaze after lucretia Alna. Arthur one of best tanks in game merlin one of best support in a game. Yennifer and gerald is mid
@daring prawn thx but whats meta scarlet?
how close ainz to 30? generally first one should be rowan
after lucretia ascended, if no mortas grab a copy of mortas, else do alna to ascended
could get joan from lab over arthur
dont understand merlin one, ldv usually over merlin in chall store but both ldv and merlin shouldnt really be skipped especially that you have bought yen with $$, geralt should easily be obtained without any challenger token
ask away, but id suggest asking in #classic-questions instead.
This hero
Where is Eg 60?
and 9F
How to deal with multiple assassins here? Athalia and Silvinia are kicking my ass
Any suggestions? Stuck on Ch13
Hey sny advice for this thoran cheese stage? Mehira is last one alive and Thoran just cant kill her
call on nara instead of rowan
Any chance on getting some recommendations on who to level and team lineup?
just had to garrison ukyo for 42-28, what is his min investment? is he holding me back or my mehria?
Ukyo is fine at 000
Probably u need a M +30 Mehira
yeah that’s what i’m thinking, just making sure i’m able to borrow a mehria and be fine thanks
Can anyone with a decent PVP setup with my heroes? I have no idea who to use for PVP and who's good together. Don't have enough heroes for meta formations
is the 10si required? or is it my weak mehria u think
Why do you use Ukyo?
Because Flora front and he has Ukyo?
Can I have help with this stage?
Did you check afkhelper?
Yes I did I tried multiple teams and formations didn't work
Shut the game down. Wait X amount of time. Collect X amount of rewards. Invest X amount of rewards into heroes. Try again.
Does anyone have a team that’s beaten this stage at my level?
I can’t see team comps on afk helper
i tried the aezizh one too and didn’t work either
What does Okyo do here?
prevents flora from flying
Okyo should be in front of Flora, to prevent her from flying, no?
since athalia is there he goes straight to flora
this is what afk helper has as clears
It says there is a nightmare RNG on this fight, and the better your mehira is, the lower the RNG.
yeah i figured as much. someone was able to clear it like this
Probably as RNG
gotcha ok ty lol i’ll try this until i get a better mehria
Merc
And you could just keep retrying
yep that’s what i’m waiting on lol
Oops wrong chat
how can I beat 10-36?
Can't see 10-36, noone can remembers enemies in stages.
Also. Don't make Heroes L without copies for L+.
You should focus fodder heroes to L+ and level 160.
Tasi is not a priority hero.
You should read up on #faq-resources Ascension101 and =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
=ascension101
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
how should i do it
ty but i tried all that i could from this, if u cant see i dont have dimensional heroes)
did you read the comments or just look at the photo
What do you think of my team? Anything I should replace? I hate not having any bonuses
I have never seen that many L/L+ heroes from an account that's what, 2 weeks old? Please read the pins in #classic-questions
I’ve had this account for a couple years, I only recently came back to it lol
My friend started like 3 days ago and already had mythics and all Legendaries :/
Restart the game on a fresh server
But I’ve spent money on his account before, seems like a waste
a f2p player would pass that progress in a week or so following the guides. you are also SO far behind everyone else on your server and region that you won't basically get any notable rewards from any gamemodes
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
What would be a good team for me and should I de level/ level a card
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
oooh ty
What should my arena and legend arena teams be looking like thanks
So basically just build up fodder right now I feel so new 😭
#treasure-scramble for TS
Arena and legends*
Hey Guys how can i fill Up on my Team, saw Something with lyca thoran and pipa, already got those
why does elijah and lailah always die? they usually die within 5 seconds
They arent campaign heroes dont use them
Show box
talene for rowan maybe
What are they useful for? Every guide says 1st sg priority but I can't find a use for them.
guild bosses
Including twisted realm?
Anyway I can make this better?
yes
whats a good team comp to clear chapter 11-12?
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
That just makes me confused as crap
Stop making heroes L without copies for L+.
Ascend fodder heroes to L+ and level them to 160.
You’re level capped for a reason, because you’re wasting fodder.
Read it again and again, study it like you would for a test.
If I get a legendary card from the gacha It doesn’t need fodder right ?
You are having problems, because you will never progress if you continue the road you’re doing.
I have no idea what you mean.
hm let me show you so will I need fodder for this or no
This is not a legendary card, it’s a legendary hero. An awakened hero. Don’t focus on awakened heroes.
ooh
You can’t use fodder on them. They can only be ascended with copies of themselves
So the best thing to use fodder on would be carries or tanks?
It works like this
oh I see
Anyone got some advice?
Use fodders on the priority hero closest to 8/8 copies
First 5 ascended are important
This isabell is a problem but nara isnt helping much somehow
I'll reach chapter 5, meaning i want be able to reset units for free anymore. That being said, how should I change my team comp before i reach chapter 5?
You’ll probably want mirael instead of Silas or Nara. You’ll also unlock the resonating crystal which lets you level up characters without resources
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
How’s this lineup? I’m thinking to eventually replace Lyca with possibly Ferael. I’m noticing a lack of damage however, my biggest concern is that the timer always runs out.
I never got Daimon 
which of these should i ascendend next?
Stop making heroes L+…. You’re wasting foddeer!! You could have another ascended hero instead…..
Choose the one closest to 8/8 copies.
Also. Don’t star hunt.
Also. You focus one hero at a time. From E+ to A, in each faction. Not multiple.
Guys, good afternoon, i gotta problem with support, they just ignoring me. What should I do and where should I write? If anything - I wrote in support - in the game itself.
Why did you go to lineup help then?
What do you mean ignoring you? It Can Take multiple hours and even days to respond.
Try talking to customer support on Facebook.
Send help
what means star hunt
Dont Hunt for stars on heroes. Stop at 8/8 copies. =ascension101
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
i read it but i think i didnt understand it well, so instead of ascending daimon to 2 star i should use her to ascend another hero?
Daimon is male.
You should remove Daimon from wishlist, and put someone else in
@sinful shard
ferael is fine?
=ascension101
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
You have The priorities right there
so when should i consider getting stars on heroes
Read The guide again.
It says it.
ohh so that mean i should get stars after i get 8 full ascenden hero's from each faction. I tought it meaned before i want to get stars i should get 8 copies of that hero
Of The priority heroes.
Reading everything fully is always best.
Lineup
Should I M+ Mishka or get a daimon copy, the copy would make me 1/4 for Ascended (can get either or w the chapt 12 chest)
Is my heroes fine? I couldn't progress for months and the only thing I've been doing for months is collecting AFK rewards and do summons. That's it.
You’re not level capped. Stop wasting fodders. Also #classic-questions for questions, this is for lineup.
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
#classic-questions and =earlygame.
In reality it only takes a few days to get to where you are. Read up and study.
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
well, it took me 2 years -_-
Only take a few days.
hm
what's A tier?
An ascended tier hero (a hero that can go all the way to ascended). Use the #classic-questions
This channel is for lineups
Go to the other channel.
right
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Albedo, Ainz, Ezio,Rowan...
What would be a good 5th member. Cc?
Which ones ?
Arthur, Merlin, da Vinci
@acoustic mantle i don't have any of them unfortunately
Do you have PoP, joker or Mortas
@acoustic mantle no but mortas i wanna get a copy from stargaze next
@acoustic mantle i only can add one of the prime elements ferael, Oden, mishka etc. ...
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There’s what to shoot for
I’m new to the game and have these characters. Who should I focus more on or not ascend (respen doesn’t count)
Someone help.
uuuuh
level up your characters ig
scarlet backmid
Didn’t work
i got thoran, lucious, Rosa, saurus and Cecila left.
Nice, all are useless
Great.
Mishka, thoran, rosa, scarlet, baden
Didn’t work
bruh it’s been only 1 minute, try longer
Also, swap positions a bit, keep scarlet mid back and rotate everyone else
Any advice? Everyone dying too fast, even ABaden didn't help
Anyone. Have idea for me? I stuck at chap 10
Should i swap in ezizh? Any other suggestions welcome too🤠
u can campaign is retrying over and over again
I like the way Silvina eliminates weak backliners, but because she's fodder, any advice on 4-skill heroes, that's gonna do it better, than Silvina?
Can you guy help me build my team
something like grezhul and miskha infront kren in the middle ferael on top of backline and rosaline to down of backline and support kren maybe?
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
I need some guidance with team building. With chapter 30 in sight I want to start planning my 2 teams better. If possible I'd like to build teams that have decent overlap for Campaign and Rift as well as not be too bad for other game modes. As for an Ainz Comp I have only 15 shards of Arthur and LDV each so they are months away from unlock and no Mortas yet. Mostly using Daimon, Rowan, Oden, Brutus and Flex pick so far
2 reasons
daimon didnt work as well i think, and firefly didnt use raku anywhere so i used raku there
it would be depressing to not use a hero you 30960'd 🙃
ah rip lol you got him 9f too
not entirely sure if it works better than daimon but ive tried both, they both rely on the cycling cc anyways
low rng if everyone survives yeah
could just put daimon and auto it instead of manualling raku
yeah figuered i'll try this first since daimon is e30 anyway
230 deficit starting to show on rng 
maybe I should buy some dust
btw do you spend? reg 70 t53 pretty solid
Yes vip12
Will probably keep spending some more til I get my core built which doesn't feel too far off
Maybe get a 2nd awakened to make sure I can keep good ranks
whats your current awakened
Thane is ascended building him up now
Might be ready in a couple of weeks or so, I have enough to 309 him but I'll wait a bit for some cores I think
why wait when you can whale cores 
anyways, would you be interested in joining nihilum after ae?
Already doing that lol
Oden and ldv ate up all my engraving mats
What should I use my diamonds for in the early game
2700 pulls
awakened heroes aside. do you plan on whaling celepo heroes or such?
to build comps like burst or for cr basically
I whaled luc and alna so already ahead in terms of gazing
zol and twins almost done
I think gonna go haelus > morael next

Kraken alert
Could someone have a quick look please?
how many copies does raku have, how many red chests currently? unfortunately not all campaign teams would overlap with trift considering how you either run mage or cele there
oh also furn wishlist and furn status and yada yada
Raku is at 7/8 and I have 154 reds
great, with 300 reds you can run the most common 2nd comp in campaign which is raku charm, requires one copy of mehira and windbinder(in trial of gods) as well as rowan. could alternatively do albedo and run ainz with yen for the AR% bonus but i have no idea how well theyll go, but theyre a great addition to other gamemodes for sure.
Hi, newbie here, Im trying to put together nice team for early game. Heard that Daimon and Rowan are Good, but i started wondering if i should use many heroes of the same faction, It might be more difficult to ascendent them, right? Anyway, do you guys have any suggestions for nice team with what i have?
Nice. I can also throw in Geralt (will go on Shemira) for Ainz then. As for the Charm comp: Stargaze for one copy of Mehira asap? And since we have another circus event comming up should I prio reds over 5* Call then? currently at 169/300 for 4*
might want to consider removing silas or thoran temporarily for raku if youve decided to build him
for charm comp you dont have to do it rn, you havent hit multis and dont have windbinder either. when the time comes you could stargaze her yea, but there's a slight possibility of obtaining her between all this time.
for arti fragment, honestly my opinion would just be
if you're a fast pusher, take it
if not, then you could start taking it next exchange event
although there are a lot of factors that should be taken into consideration, it is still pretty cheap so some would advocate to take it either way
Much appreciated! Thanks. I will save some SG for Mehira if i don´t get her through regulars then. And will swap Silas for Raku
How Long have you guy play afk arena
Yeah... Stop using lucius. DAimon is not a frontline hero.
i dont have any tanks past E, should i jsut swap it with Grezhul and who else is gonna front line then daimon? everyone just dies too quickly
well acutally i can get hogen to L+
You don't use "tanks"
You use whatever works
Once you start increasing deficit, everything will "onsehot" you.
Do you have any recommendations for what to replace lucius with then?
huh ok u are right lucius was the problem
Hogan and Golus are both fine
mucho gracias
What do I put on my wishlist
Pinned in #classic-questions
Any auggestions for better lineup? Should I ascend Shemira and put her in or keep waiting to see which hero will be the closest to 8 copies?
ok so i read about the foddlers now, should i switch to ascending them, level them up, put in resonating crystal and stop ascending A heroes, even thought i already used some foddlers to ascend Daimon to L and Rowen to L?
Hello! I am like 5 days old on this game and I'm still learning, in super stuck on 9-20, any help would be appreciated! I looked up comps to get through 9-20 and I don't have the characters for the suggestions...
This is gonna be a bit tough to hear but you should restart and pay close attention to the beginners guide, you will progress a lot faster and far more
Dont ascend shemira, save the fodder for better gbs like daimon, grez, etc.
the same goes for me?
i tried to learn which heroes are good, but didnt know about the foddlers before
Hmm I don’t think you have to restart cause you have a few daimon and Rowan copies, but it’s up to you, might be a bit helpful to restart so you avoid the early mistakes
i dont really want to restart, just looking for some tips how can i fix my team, i know it might be a bit slower
Id recommend building a legend+ mirael and using her as your carry for now, that’d be a pretty solid start to getting things together
What should I put in my wish list here. I already have an ascended daimon
Ideally you wanna build 5 legend+ fodder heroes in the beginning
Hodgkin, btw check the pins in questions, theres a bunch of wishlist priority stuff there
ok, thanks and do you know what tank could i use?
I tried to find a beginners guide but I didn't see one?
Go to #classic-questions and check pins
You dont really need a tank but ig you can put brutus in your resonating crystal and use him for now
Anyone have any suggestions for how to beat this?
thanks. so at this point it would just be better to delete and restart my account? sad face I will take your advice, which is mainly using the 3 skill heros up to 160 to get through chp 15?
any better lineup i could use?
=si
Signature Item Priorities
Try swapping Rosaline with ascended thane
Can I make 5 teams with these heroes? Disregard the new baden he is just the try out one.
The 5 teams is for campaign and there is a round 80 level deficit
What's the most meta thoran cheese comp
Any tips?
What can I run with this
Im currently running Rosa(following Daimon), Thoran , Daimon(dps) , Eluars and Silas/Wukong
You can go for building a good GB team, Grez Daimon Oden Silas Farael
bet ty
I need help on building a good team. Just joined yesterday.
Any tips?
Half of hour, still stuck, any help?
tried thoran grez oden silas ferael?
Power capped
abaden grez oden silas fera
any specific positioning? and artefacts
12345 grez barricade rest prolly doesnt matter much
looks hm promising, thanks, I'll leave it on autobattle and hope for win
Need help for a good line up for dismal lab
- card lucretia 9f 2. engraving her e66 atk and pp
So i have to invest on lucretia then
just in general she is rlly good
imma gonna give some advice abt ur box first:
Scarlet e38. mishka e60, raku 303e41, ldv 209e36, silas +30 si, astar 309e30, estrilda e30, skirath 303, anasta 309e60, lorsan 9f, daimon 3f, kren 309e41, raine 203, oden 309e4x
@pastel widget a lot of heroes u e60 do not need e60 like rowan rosa arthur or are useless or barely usable atalene bbyg gwyn
any possible that it will be an another exchanging stargaze to timegaze cards again ? i stockpiled them too much ,if not i will use them all right now , thank
not anytime soon, but who knows.. its all about ur patience
Any thoughts here or am I just at a wall level-wise?
gb account ?
i just love gbs and its my main
Rip, 6h auto battle, nothing

How should i build my team
Should i be able to do this level with my power? Should i keep Daimon on a higher level than everyone else or forcus on upgrading 5 heroes simultaneously for RC?
Hey ! I'm at 4-16 and I pulled Talene, is she worth investing in this early? I was trying to follow the guide.
your account is still really new, follow the guide in the pins, Athalene is nice to have and can carry instead of wukong
Any tips on how to make this less like a nightmare? 3f thoran btw
What should i use this card on
If i use this as my main formation, is there a better way to arrange this?
graveborn
Stuck on chapter 13-34 can I still push with daimon carry or should I make all my fodder to L?
Not all but the 4 of them
Stuck on 11-4 someone pls help me build a team so I can progress (Baden not mine, just that limited time thing)
This is lineup-help. GO to #classic-questions For general questions.
Also =Factionscrolls
Priorities for Spending Faction Scrolls
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994911611364069476
You need to make L+ fodders in the other factions... Yes.
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Anyone have any suggestions for this?
id try daimon instead of raku
whats the best arena of heroes line up? i have a 50% win rate against this comp
well 1. get whane as well or 2. try ur luck with lucretia + alna
Someone help me pls, stuck on 11-4 and I need a team that can push me further. Baden not mine btw, just the limited time.
I'm not a pro but,
daimon
brutus
lyca
baden
arden
I only have baden for like another day or so
Wait, why would I use arden? He's fodder. Shouldn't I have healing btw?
Brutus lyca, daimon rowan sailas
Level up your daimon
arden cc is good
Yeah but I could've just thrown one of the better CC I have in wilder into the resonating crystal or whatever. I have 3 spots open
better wilder cc where
this is good anyway 
Wouldn't Tasi or Mishka be better?
not really but I'm only in chapter 16
daimon
brutus
rowan
baden for now lyca
cc/healing
What can I do to finish this? It seems impossible with Flora in that position
Anything I can do? My guys die in seconds
Use better hero's maybe
You're over levelled as shit too
This is not the only lineup I tried, quite a few
You have zol?
Nope
It’s a big deficit, no? Yeah I’ve only been playing for a year idk if it is. Also Zol is my next priority but I’ll merc one now
You also have Atleast one copy of awakened ezizh yea?
Did he stun flora?
Nope
Of course he didn't dumbass
But one of these worked. Completely forgot they existed sorry
What? I had to try it. Why are you being an ass about it?
You can't use awkziz to stub flora without zol
I did not know that
Now you do
What should be my team I am chapter two so full beginner
Yeah I do, thanks! But probably best not to help people with genuine questions if you’re going to be an asshole about it. Somebody else would have come along eventually
bro.
What
Don’t worry about it too much this early, but Daimon should be in it for sure. He is the best early game carry. You can use Awakened Talene too
Thank u so much
Quite lucky if you had two copies of him and an awakened hero already
@digital skiff oh this didn’t tag
Tee hee

hi, i just started the game, whats the best team for me right now? who should i level up
.guidelist
read the pins in #classic-questions and =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
What is all of the way to get diamonds
I am stuck at this stage of the campaign, any lineup improvement ideas ?
game is getting harder very fast so what hero should i maybe change or focus to get new
- what fragments should i buy in guild or other shops
If I were you, I would restart, you made too many unneeded Legendary ascensions
Bro 💀 ain't fuckin restarting 😭
oh ik what u mean now, im idiot but too late to restart
You don't have to restart, but I suggest you make fodder heroes now. Don't make heroes L without copies for L+.
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
is there any hero i should change tho? and like what should i get here
Never buy that.
=coinusage
Priorities for Coin Usage
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994909904001323100
=afkhelper might help you out
i just need a general team, whatever is best with my heroes
and that’s for guild hunt
is it possible atm for what i have? cant beat it with these
Why are you not using your carry.
which is?
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
Can someone help me with a good lineup
Stop making rookie mistakes.
Don't make heroes L without copies for L+. You need to ascend fodder heroes.
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Hi I’ m stuck on floor 15-36 what do I do wrong ?
try using nara for the isabella
Thx I will try
Hi, should i focus on leveling daimon or baden?
Can you guys help me build my team
Of course Daimon, you won't be getting any copies of Awakened Baden
what’s my best formation for guild hunt
Can you guys help me build my team
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Merc a fat Scarlet and include Rowan and some other healers
What would be a good team for campaign
I feel like I should be upgrading different hero’s tbh
@fallow cedar daimon
Out of curiosity, I'm using Daimon and ATalene up front, with Rosaline (Daimon), Mirael, and Raine
Is this the best I can do?
u could use brutus if atalene is struggling to survive
Would appreciate some suggestions on team comps, starting to struggle real hard to clear this stage.
Alright, thank you
Could y’all help with legends challenger
Help pls
I am on chpt 11 any advice
Reroll on a new server and follow the guide in #classic-questions. Your hero wishlist has been set wrong
😟
How do u reroll on a new server
New player i’m on 9-12 any advice
have you looked at =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Tap your avatar -> Setting-> Select Server ->Pick a different server
Are problem with google play?
so should i reset then at the rickety cart and lvl up the fodder
For pay?
Yes and use resonating crystal to get past the level caps
ty and how often do new server open?
Probably the wrong place to ask about google play.
it changes all the time
Roughly every 1-7 days.
lineup advices for this boss ?
For new servers to open, there need to start X amount of players on the current newest server
ahahah, french knowledge about star wars lore
I'm using Silvina and ATalene up front, with Rosaline (Daimon), Daimon, and Raine
Is there anything better I can do for Guild Hunting Wrizz?
Oh wait
These don't show Silvina is L+ now
merc a scarlet
Who do I swap her with?
Alrighty
Oden or Rosaline?
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Any comp tips? This isnt working for me. Been trying for about 2 hours various variations.
Good team for swamp corrupter?
Any suggestions on who would be good to use?
How should i build my team
For rn get either daimon or wukong to highest level you can and then build some tanks to buy them time
Read the early game guide for tips on ascension and such
try that at ur current investment
need some serious help with this stage oof
I'm new too so idk but I'd use
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Thoran/mishka
Oden
1st time trying to "try hard" the game, is there any troll characters here ? And which one I should focus on ?
troll investments
30960 daimon
engraved thoran
no si30 rowan, engraved and 9f is troll
antandra and oku
lucius
fane
also what are you gazing even?
there are a lot of wrong shits too but not shitty enough to be considered troll, but theyre still bad.
I haven't looked at any guide or stuff online in 10 months, I was just playing on my own
scarlet, grez, rosaline alright everything else is questionable
Who should I add for my legends champion tournament
Random bs go
dont stress lct too much just use random bs go and focus on it once u have
- Alna Gb
- Ainz comp
- Lucy comp
Can someone help with 4 teams in ch 35 please?
Can I have some help with this I couldn't get close with any formation from the afk helper
My box
looks similar to other clears tbh, thoran A doesn't make much difference I believe
Might need to just wait for your daimon to get to 240 or keep macroing it
make sure your gear and artifacts are decent
This is my daimon
The others have mediocre gear I got too unlucky and didn't drop good things
Yes I was thinking about it I'll do it if I can't do it after some macro
But this team should be able to do it in your opinion?
it is an exact copy of a clear so there is no reason why not (other than your daimon level)
you can also try one with rowan to check which works better https://afkh.nax.is/s/c24670 (eironn can work at E+)
Okk I'll try those and for merc Athane or Lucy what would be better?
lucretia 5p is always an easy way out
Okay I'll try to do that if I can't beat it
If eirron isn't pulling how do I make him pull lmao
ah your skriath still not A, I think both might work but still try lucretia with some support heroes and brutus front first
do you have more slots for your Call
https://afkhelper.nax.is/images/chapters/27-12_1614967537.webp
Try this maybe, put him backline
Ok so in this case he pulls
Daimon ults then gets killed I'll do some macro and ill see if it's doable if not ill just use merc
Thanks for your help and advice ^^
Yeah if it's a 20 level difference for your carry this early it will probably be rng heavy if it is doable
20 lvls can do that much of a difference?
this early yep, there's a reason why all of the clears have daimon at 240 in them 
I don’t usually look at lvls when I look for a team 👀
I guess I should start then lol
If anyone could give some advice for which one i should focus on would be very helpful.
Still getting steamrolled on this level. Don’t have the ABaden anymore since that was just a trial. Any suggestions?
Hi guys, im stuck im chapter 7, anyone can help me? What should i focus?
How to Ascend Heroes
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994908234135646268
=ascension101
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
Boys, i keep getting annihilated, any advice on changing formation or maybe hero change?
im stuck and shemira is kinda useless but idk what to pick for her
Can anyone help me make a team for the corruptor boss?
Anyone?
I used payden, saurus swolise, hodge, twins, but u need saurus 30 si so maybe swap saurus for rosa and scarlet fro swolise
In summary:
Payden rosa scarlet maybe mortas twins
What team should I use?
Daimon arden grez twins
How would I build a team focused around Audrae?
Which other heroes do I want? Non celestial hypogean
Ts?
Treasure scramble
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
whats best to put in thoran cheese with pippa kelthur as 4th 5th? (lyca is in 5pull lucretia team)
Help pls
still stuck
Need help with Hidden Village 18 - don’t have Skreg 9f, Saurus or Ezio built, so the comps in pins aren’t working for me…
Could you help me with the stage above?
I don’t remember a lot about the earlier chapters, a lot was trial and error for me… some things to try:
- if Daimon is dying early (before his ultimate triggers), put him in the back behind a tank like Brutus.
- use Brutus! Either as your only / main tank, or in addition to Thoran - his 7s invincibility makes him very good even at E+ (I’m still using him at E+in chapter 38)
- Raku probably won’t do much for you until he gets M and SI30 - try other supports in his place like Silas, Ferael, Oden, Nara…
@jagged elm
Read my above messages, accidentally replied to the wrong person… Also read the pins in the #classic-questions channel - you’ve made some mistakes (e.g. taking heroes too early to Legendary) which has probably slowed your progress a bit. Reading the guides will help prevent similar mistakes in the future
Oh whoops - honestly not super sure - if Safiya is getting her pyramid thing off, one thing you could try is Nara-ing her…
Also, if Mishka is dying too early to Belinda, maybe switch Brutus to that side?
Same disclaimer as above, I mostly trialed or copied friend teams through campaign 🙂 (assuming you have tried looking at friends’ clears, have you tried checking AFK helper).
AFK helper? you mean using friends heroes? I'm saving them for end ch27
Also I just got geralt
Nara died because of the horse lady before she get Safiya
I mean this: https://afkhelper.nax.is/
It's a database of people who have uploaded teams they used to clear specific stages. Especially useful as a reference when you start getting into mid-30s chapters, but may have something useful for earlier chapters too...
wow never knew that, thank you
There is a command
=afkhelper
(Just if you didn't know)
I had forgotten this command existed 🙂
Any recommendations besides just leveling everything up (got no Brutus)
who should i replace and look for in the noble tavern? im stuck on 12-1
Which should I pick for the fifth hero Shemira, scarlet, sairus, wu kong, raine, alna, or skreg
How to progress, ascend and level through earlygame. This also includes what to be aware off, and points out typical mistakes to avoid, as a new player:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1041161459935223828
scarlet
Thx
Should i keep using mishka?
Mishika is used forever, she needs furniture though after ascending. Daimon is a solid carry for now, should be your only early investment/highest level. Rest don’t matter much
What could I make with this I made mistakes in investment at beginning
I am beginning chapter 32
Normally my heros die like right away
Brutus sucks . Cuz dies in 3s or less . Thorne stays alive much longer
What's the best I can do?
Anyone?
Need a lineup I can use for pve
Hey, can i improve my lineup for the story ? Thank's x)
should i ascend this? i m currently at 16.4 stage
Don’t
Never do that,
No, read guides.
ok buddy thanks for info, i thought i could get some info based on my heroes available
Currently working on getting Grezhul Ascended (or Daimon if I get enough copies). I'm a little less sure on who I should focus on in the other groups though. Any advice? Currently Ch 22
Basically trying to figure out who I should invest in, especially on the Mauler side
Skriath and Kren
Can someone help me put together the strongest possible team out of what I’ve got?
Just started playing yesterday and while I normally love doing research on games I still feel a bit lost on this one. Lol. Feel like there's not really great up to date info out there on formations, optimal placement etc. etc. Might just be me ofc 🤣🤷🏽♂️
Who should I build after I finish lucreatia
Alna
Alna. Also +30 on Rowan and Raku
Was thinking about going for Daimon. And build around him.
Edit: Or Lucretia. Just to get going until I get more stuff etc.
Thanks
Why engraving Daimon Belinda and Thoran?
Look at name xD
you mean my name?
=afkhelper
Lucretia is very difficult to build early unless you plan on spending. Daimon is the f2p option
Yeah i checked but, really bad engraving at early game
Hey, what's the best I can do for this?
I do not understand why you haven't make daimon M yet
Just one more copy of him and you can make him A, you can get that copy at end ch12 or ch16
Because I don't have a second L+ fodder?
tips?
Any help here?
Daimon is a backline hero
I know but need some tank I guess for frontline but idk
Daimon is not a tank
Not everyone follows their assigned roles.
Like ferael is a ranger, but can be used to dodge.





