#lineup-help
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I do have Daimon
Well, then, like the guide above said, level him with 4 fodders.
What are fodders again?
Did you read the beginner's guides like I suggested? That is explained in all of them.
I know beginner guide says otherwise but is it worth buying Wu Kong in the labyrinth store to level up him after lvl 100? I don't have Daimon and find Wu Kong pretty good as a DPS for now, I got him to lvl 100 already 
absolutely no, Wukong is really bad after lvl100
Noted! Who should I try to get as a replacement when I'll need to switch? Currently at the 6th world, here is my lineup 
Mirael or daimon, none of these is carry
Is there anyone in here I can level up or am I just screwed till I get more heros or higher level
Probably secrewed, try to merc scarlet for this floor
You need to be looking for a-tier heroes that you have 4 copies of so you ascend them to M and can push past lvl 160.
try
rosaline
estrilda
scarlet
lucius
rowan
otherwise youre prob underleveled
Mirael? How good does she get?
She's pretty amazing for a fodder hero. Can carry you to 160 easy. But you'll definitely want to be looking for Daimon at some point.
Ok ty ya I can't asscend anyone I don't really have rl money to spend on this game and I get like 3 summons a day or something lol
Wow, that's good to know, I'll level her up till I get Daimon! btw just to be sure, by 160 you mean world x stage 160?
Hero level 160
oh haha damn
Yeah but should get you to Chp 19; hopefully by that time you're starting to grt your first few M heroes
i should ascend her up to legendary then ig?
Mirael and Arden are great (Mirael for ult sweep if she survives the first 10 seconds; Arden for his root skill, especially at Lv 141)
e+ until you can go straight to l+
ie you need 2 e+ copies of her and any two e+ lightbearers for instant l+ ascension
so 4 e+ lightbearers, 2 of which should be mirael
alr, guess i'll wait a bit more then
Yeah starting out is rough if RNG is not in your favor...
wait i think i do have 2 e+ of her
hopefully you have 2 other e+ lightbearers haha
not enough lightbearers tho
I mean you could put her up to L right now, but you're basically committing to L+ as soon as you get your next e+ lightbearer
dont do it unless you hit the e+ level cap tho
level 120
nah that would waste a e+ mireal ?
OH yeah youre right based on screenshot; dont do it
haha
Wait for any other e+ lightbearer lol
smart guy good catch 

wait but who should I buy from the labyrinth store tho?
save
use those tokens for dimensional exchange (like right now for Joan, but if you didnt already save, you might have missed the boat)
also try to hold 40k hero coins and 40k guild coins in reserve (also related to dimensional exchange)
160k lab coins
40k hero coins
40k guild coins
try to hold those in reserve for dimensional exchanges
You don't have to hold them in reserve. You will have enough time during them to build up to that.
spent 18k hero coins 10 minutes ago ๐
i'll save my lab & guild coins tho haha
That's true; it was subjective advice tbh haha
I like to have reserve first before spending on whatever else

Need some help with this stage
This is my second account and I tried not to spread my fodder too thin this time around
Try changing Silas with Rowan, that Rowan won't do anything unless it's M with si30
I need help, im stuck at this stage
Seriously I'm confused how they stuck between chapters 7 till 19 it's ez so ez after 20 it will be harder
Iโm stuck on this stage right now. Any suggestions for my lineup?
Can an e41 grez and e0 Silas win it ?
Answer: u dont athane is kinda op
huhu ok ty
"Stuck" is subjective at that point. It takes a few hours maybe to get the resources you need to level your heroes to pass a level, rather than days or more. But relative to how fast you've been progressing up until then, it feels like you're stuck.
does this look like a balanced teamcomp for the early clears?
If it's working for you, keep running it. Personally, I liked Golus better than Hogan, but whatever.
I'm stuck at 12-14 with this lineup, Help me please
share stage
I'm at chapter 12-21
no i mean like a picture lol
positioning counts
EDIT: if you still need help that is
i mean that already looks good haha
asolise where ainz is if it doesnt work
needs to be at the very very very least mythic with the signature item unlocked to be remotely useful
he needs bedo*
same Orz
Is it good to get ainz and albedo both in one month from the garrison?
I'm in server 1003
they need investments so it's not a good idea for new players like you
if you can but newer players like you and i will have to struggle in choice...
they use same currency as the dimensional exchange (like right now for Joan of Arc)
probably better to save first
daimon
brutus
rowan
lyca
arden
I just started playing again after i lost access to my main account 2 years of grinding all gone.
Can someone suggest a team for me. I got Aziz and Thane both legend from normal summons early.
Didn't work
I need help Athalia is screwing me over
drop ainz he isnt doing anything for you try this
farael
daimon
silias
lyca
brutus
Thank you! I was seriously stumped
np just dont use ainz anymore till you either start on 2 teams or have albedo at 30si
main focus team will be daimon farael brutus and ideally daimon flex heros are lyca aw eizzh silias
I can't find a way to cheese this stage, even using available comps Thoran always dies before even ulting once, any idea why ? (tried Pippa, Ezizh, Kelthur, and other variations and still doesn't seem to be close?)
Any ideas? Either Isabella or the hypo mage melt down my team, I can only lock one down with Nara thanks
put fera in crystal, he might help with fear before hypo deals dmg to everyone
sth like brutus daimon lyca fera nara
Plzzzz
maybe swap daimon and rowan
I have finished that but can u help w this one
rule of thumb: never keep daimon in front row if there is an estrilda thane ogi and etc
Why n who should I replace him w then
he gets chain cc'd by those ass heroes it's pretty self explanatory
it's like you try to make a play in league but boom, death recap 10s damage received 9.99s crowd control
Thanks but no luck. The one not being locked down by nara melts my team. Same outcome if I put nara in front or isa or mage
Oh
every other level has been a breeze but canโt seem to get my lineup right for this one. any help appreciated ๐
I somehow won after accidentally taking one off ๐ฅบ
read beginners guide in #classic-questions (pins) and also shemira lucius and thane are ass
Scarlet or shemira
Can anyone help with this? ๐ฅน
swap aezizh and daimon
tried that, no luck
For what
drop that eironn too
as in donโt use him?
why
uh didnโt know much about wishlist until recently played lots of chapters with no guides as a new player
dam that sucks
๐ฅบ
yeah :/
so close to finishing this chapter too and once i do should get some nice heroes as i get 9k diamonds and other goodies
just unsure what to do to finish these next 3 levels
so iโm screwed ? lmao
That worked after one try. Thanks!
Guys is my like up ok??
Good or bad
If bad, what should I change
Just assume I have all heroes and suggest something
cant you create a new account?
I might do that anyways tbh
Can anypne help
hello, after my solise trial is up who should i replace her with? i'm using the top 4 atm. also not sure if i should bench gwyneth
What would be a good pvp and pve team
Having issues here
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Let Rosaline follow Scarlet
She does
U can follow me, maybe u can see my clears
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Hi, how Can I beat that comp ? Treznor destoye my Carry all the Time
Athane or Abrutus dims
so I started a new account yesterday after several several months away from the game. last hero I remember coming out when I last played was saurus. could I get any tips about what teams I should be looking to build for early game based on what I have, and what heroes I should be looking for when I summon?
read the guides pinned in #classic-questions 
And this โฌ๏ธ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
thank you
I don't have 'em ๐
just rerolled this what should the team be to carry me through early game maybe into mid game?
Is it still the fodder L+ 160 team strat?
forgot the wukong but i have him too ofc
You can go pretty far with Brutus carrying you and check the phoenix guide in #classic-questions for wishlist and other heroes you want to focus on
yeah im pretty comfortable with the wishlist and stuff just more or less wondering what comp I use around the brutus, havent had an awakened hero yet
I know people reccomend using like mirael saveas niru etc until like 160 but since I have the brutus was wondering if that changed
Check the in game formations they are full of easy Brutus comps, and yeah you probably don't want to use fodder as carries when you have Brutus
where are those in game formations? Not seeing a button or something but might just be blind
This and you can also use the afk helper website
@little flame you've been very lucky on pulls to get awakened Brutus, that is excellent. I think you should use him paired with a few fodders, as explained in the beginner guide (check pins in #classic-questions )
For example Arden, Hogan or Golus can be good allies for you in early game ๐
๐ thanks
Anytime
Who here wants to help me make some good hero comp with the heroes that I have? I am currently at chapter 39. I can dm you all my heroes and other info that you need. Please and thank you!
Salut, quel est pour vous la meilleure รฉquipe pour Wrizz s'il vous plaรฎt ? Je souhaiterais savoir quel est la meilleur team actuellement et je voulais aussi savoir quel team je peux crรฉer pour l'affronter avec mes personnages, pourriez, vous aider s'il vous plaรฎt ?
Hi, what do you think is the best team for Wrizz please? I would like to know what is the best team currently and I also wanted to know what team I can create to fight with my characters, could you please help?
Francais ou anglais?
hey guys
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Follow this guide don't ascend heroes without good reason and check afk helper for comps, mostly you can go with brutus rowan front and daimon + 2 support/cc like silas/oden/arden at the back
thank you
Sorry wrong link, I edited the correct one
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Thoran keeps dying before ult even when it has full energy upon revive since warek doesn't get feared, tried several comps any help would be appreciated
Any changes?
Came back from a break and just finished chapter 24. Wanted to use my swap scroll on oden (booting shemira) but idk if I can even fit him into a team. Anyone have any ideas?
Oh this is my current team for both tower and campaign. Feels kinda shite but it works idk
You're going to want a SI 30 Rowan to go with Daimon. The advice I was given for a Daimon team is this:
Brutus, Daimon, Ferael, Rowan are the 4 core heroes. Then flex Lyca, AwEzizh, and even Thoran
Yea. Thats what Iโve seen too. Should I swap my shemira with Ferael then
I didn't see shemira in your lineup. Did you mean Nara? And yes. Although, you will want Nara occasionally to pull certain folks that are Daimon's bane. You definitely wan Ferael in there. You'll want him a SI 20, which is pretty important and you should be going for 9 furn. I only have him at 3 furn, though, and he's already indispensable.
Fr
merc scarlet
wanna ask for a team for mauler tower 
Any tips
Maybe try to lock out aezizh
Back out one level and look at the leaderboard. That's where I get ideas.
Hey this level is tough for me. I can't even kill 1 guy. Anything i can do to make me win?
this orthos dosnt die pls help
=afkhelper
Guys I need help now which team I can use to past chapter 5&6
put 60-70% of xp into daimon
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try swapping daimon and joan
no problem i was curious if it was going to be something simple try this a few times
lyca
brutus
daimon
thoran
nara
I think I've already tried that as well but lemme try again
Oh NVM server maintenance just started xd
Or update idk
yeah lol sozz
Nope not working
Any tips
Thank you for the composition it works well, but did I put the right artifacts? What should I replace them with please?
Arden/ferael
Joan/alna
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
Can someone help me beat this
Thanks it worked
Astar
Atalene
Rowan
Daimon
Ferael/oden
.
Get daimon to mythic. He's better by a mile than ainz as carry in ur level. Try:
Daimon/ainz
Normal brutus
Rowan
Thoran/skreg/lyca
Ferael/nara
Lineup help
Should I summon for beasts rn or wait
Lineup help
guys i need to choose my 5th hero for my team , should i select a support hero , fighter or mage ?
pleaase help
whats the best formation i can make? resonating crystal are at level 140s
You'll want to read the beginner's guides in #classic-questions. Also โฌ๏ธ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
okay thanks
The problem with answering this question is that it always depends who you're facing as to what the best formation would be. But, you should put heroes on your crystal that are in the top groups of the ascension priorities. Then just try various things. It's hard to say how they'll behave at your level without their usual skills, SI level, and furniture to make them what most folks are used to. So, try various combos and see what works. Just looking, I'd say, Oden, Pippa, Lucretia, Thoran, Raine, Silas, and Grez would be good to have on your crystal, but I'm not sure that they'd do any better than what your fodder would. You can look at afk helper to see what combinations folks have used on your campaign level if you are looking for ideas.
alright thanku! ๐ where do i find afk helpers?
Right...sorry about that: https://afkhelper.nax.is/
thanks! ๐
Any ideas for a pvp team
where is your albedo 
Donโt have one yet ๐ฆ
Gonna start garrisoning her (just finished 6 for ainz)
U got a team with albedo? @lime willow
ainz doesnt really work without albedo 
Iโll have her in a day or 2
Just exchanged everything for new dimensional hero so need a few more resources
you should get her to +30 instant
and 1. joa 2. bedo 3. ainz 4. rowan 5. fera/raku ig
Which hero should i build? out of the heros you can see in the pic except Alna, Talane, Mishka & the ape
Could you help me?
well i could & would but i wont help you HERE
get yourself the hero "rowan"
Ok thank you
Then where?
read pins in #classic-questions 
Same problem here, i alr sent my characters
Same advice as i love poe gave: read the beginner's guides in #classic-questions and read this: โฌ๏ธ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Is there a lineup I can use to beat this? The current lineup I have got very close but they all got killed by I think it was Ferael
If you're very close, just keep repeating. RNG is a huge factor in the game.
Not trying to troll here, seriously just spam "Try Again" since you were so close.
I did it! I put talene in the stargaze thing and the temple of time thing and I got 2 elite talenes!
Damn that's wild luck
Congrats!
Thank you!
Just wanted to say that RNG will become a bigger and bigger factor and that "Try Again" will be your best friend

Any suggestions on who to put on the crystal? Been stuck here for a while now
Astar without si = useless
I'm not sure what you need specifically for that clear, but you can check the formations others have used to for clears and see if it gives you any inspiration. Also, I'd recommend sticking to the main heroes from each faction on your crystal for whoever you choose.
Alright thanks!
Iโm struggling with my team 4 I donโt have many choices could I position better?
Help pls?
@narrow sandal
My Mishka is not that highly built but I will try
Nvm I just realized I already used Lucretia earlier
I can send u all my clears private
Yes please
these wilder lineups are a pain
Yes. I usually use AEzizh to sleep one of them for a bit at the beginning.
thanks yeah that worked
๐
Whatโs the best lineup to complete chapter 14(
There is no 1 good lineup for anything
Should I change up my Wrizz team? Trying to maximize damage
Whatโs the best celestial team for tower? (Iโm at around 130-140 atm)
Would appreciate some help with treasure scramble teams
Retried it like 100 times and somehow got it lmao
i just started playing again and i dont know who to use on my team
Im very new to the game but im wondering what would be the best team for me rn for campaign? on chapter 7
ps im not struggling im just curious if there characters i dont have leveled up that I should use for a team
Read beginners guide in #classic-questions
Rosaline is just bad to 5p
Sheโs the only other person I got lol
Unless scarlet, thoran or Mishka work
No 5p vs rosa is ๐คก
So what do I slot in lol
What i mean is dont use five oull against rosa so swap teams
oh ok
So exit out prob
It wonโt work on any others
Send stages
have u tried afk helper?
no
=afkhelper
Half the time the heroโs people use in there teams are far better than mine/ I donโt have that much investment in them and I donโt really want to go find it
if u dont want to find runs that would work then y bother pushing
Idk but I guess Iโll just wait for mercenary.
i need kane comp without talene
everyone wins with this but i just cant, no matter what been 1h now and nothing
does anyone know what team would be best for me in campaign
we have similar roster
my core team is daimon/silas/rowan
then thoran/brutus (usually brutus)
then flex whatever i need (oden/nara/lyca/rosa/scarlet)
been working out so far; got to 24-28
EDIT: I think you should focus on Rowan's SI; it's an enabler in any comp he's in
cant you just put safiya in for rosa?
so my team should be daimon rowan oden ferael and silas?
sorry idk what's flex
flex whatever you need for a stage; like if theres a stupid Tasi or Fawkes, I would flex; Nara in etc if theres no annoying CC I just put in DPS (oden/scarlet)
daimon rowan oden silas fereal is definitely a good team but youll find in higher deficits youll need more diverse comps
(lol sorry idk what stage youre on, you might even be farther than me...)
EDIT: sorry i didnt answer your question lol, flex means just someone you rotate in and out based on what youre fighting
GET that lucretia to +30 over everyone else
oden
-rowan
silas
-thoran/brutus depends on who can tank the longest or works best for the dps to do his mojo
daimon/luc/raku
pog
Pog
Help, can i beat them with my heroes?
sure u can, show the whole pool
This?
tysm
Hello anyone could give some advice on what heroes to focus and what lineup to use?
Rowan and daimon. Thoran and mishka are good. I like Silas for insane healing
need help with second fight 32-56
@stone holly did you win?
no
Add me for my clear if u want
should i use joan of arc and if yes who do i replace
I assume u linked her with oden/daimon? If ur not really struggling then u can just not use her for now.
i didnt know that i can only use one of them if i linked ๐
should i link it to the mythic that i dont use or link it to oden or daimon and replace one of them? i am struggling with that stage
U can link her to raku. Then try:
Oden
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Joa/ferael
Use rowan instead of Asolise.
Also u can try using mirael as carry.
thanks ๐
Hey sorry to bother everyone. I'm looking for help getting some good team comps together for treasure scramble. Here are my heroes
Help
After your res crystal hits 240 how does it work? Do you level up the crystal or keep leveling heros
former
So the crystal?
Yup
oh does it take dust?
When it levels up
It cost gold and hero xp to level the crystal up to a Level up point. At the level up point its cost gold, exp and dust
Try this position
oh wow ok thanks
Didn't work ๐
Alright so what about it didn't work, who is killing your team, what needs to be fixed
Is saveas just shredding your team or something ?
Yep
He kills my azizh with one hit
So he targets ezizh first?
yes
Ok
Did but theyโre still too op
Any tips
Bruh almost did it until shemira survived with 1hp๐
Lyca brutus ferael eironn daimon, need some luck to work
Alright thx
Use Rosaline to daimon?? Not tho
K
Any tips for 42-29 my toran comp not works (505rc) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441343984279748632/1019684174552109086/file.jpg
Help. Me. Plz
help to make lineup please? my support or backliner always die to silvina/other assassin
You should read the beginner's guides pinned to #classic-questions and this: โฌ๏ธ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
i just upgrade 3 L+ and 2 L fodder :(
Cool. I was mostly just making sure you don't push them any further and that you don't ascend any other a-tier heroes until you have the copies for it. You're fine.
As to your original question, do you have AwEzizh, or Brutus (even at just E)?
no that's the problem i don't have any strong tank
I think your problem is more that you don't have anything but tanks. Daimon and Mishka are both tanks. Hogan is a terrible tank and should probably be swapped out for Arden or something. Golan is a great tank, but you don't need 3 tanks so I'd swap him out for Mirael. So try running, Mishka Daimon Arden Mirael Ferael. See if that helps at all.
ok tysm
If Daimon dies way too easily and you need someone in front of him, then try using Golan as tank and Daimon instead of Mirael/Arden. You'll have to play around a bit and see what works for you.
Help please? Lucretia used, Ainz used
Nvm, I got it, thanks!
Help would be appreciated
Do you have even one copy of Brutus? I always stick him in front of Athalia cuz she's just a beast. I've also had luck putting Daimon there. Sometimes even Rowan holds his own long enough. I passed that level with Grez as 2nd in front but otherwise pretty much the same team. I switch my order around a bunch, so I don't remember exactly what worked.
try ezizh brutus nara rowan daimon maybe?
I was thinking maybe get lucky with rng and Rowan can dodge Athalia for a while, will try it with grez
Um....what is it that you need?
It looks good at the very least 
Agreed. Looks really good. Made me a bit jealous for how my start went. ๐
IKR if he's here to flex then it worked; extremely lucky on the Daimon copies too, and Oden ig
Would have been perfect imo with Silas

Help please?
Having trouble with. This level any tips
Team is Daimon, Ferael, Rowan, Mishka, Thoran. I recently obtained oden, silas, joan of arc, and a few others, and was wondering if I should swap them in for a general team comp. Any suggestions? Lv73, heroes lv150
I would send an ss of my heros except it's labeled as "explicit" content?? Lmao
Core Daimon/Rowan/Silas (especially if Rowan has SI unlocked; focus this)
For other two slotsjust put who you need
Flex between Ferael/Oden/Joan/Mishka
Brutus is great if you have him
Nara too if you have her
Positioning will vary per stage, and RNG becomes huge factor the farther you go (ie you're going to have to live with hundreds of retries)
Alright thanks!
Don't let defeats discourage you; live by the RNG now haha
๐๐ Oh no, something to look forward to
Is this a generally ok team? Or will I need changing of heroes as I go? I donโt remember
raku is meh without +30. idk about merlin but cc hero like fera would be better
.
Swap alna and brutus
Thanks
Sorry, Iโm not here to flex as Iโm a returning player from like 3 years ago so idk whatโs good or not ๐ basically Iโm wondering what the best lineup would be for what Iโve got
try brutus daimon ferael lyca nara
It worked thanks
Thoran doesn't hit hard enough to kill. Stuck here for a week any help would be appreciated.
give nara call, she should stop mehira from summoning minions, ig rest is rng
prolly want keksos to ult or sth to deal enough dmg
or ask replay from hybrid if ever he has it
I thought it would be better to let thoran capitalize on Call for more energy. It worked thanks a lot !
rookie numbers 
gotta start somewhere 
its getting worse lol
still rookie numbers tho..

Need help with this stage no matter what line up i do my front line gets destroyed instantly or they survive but dont do enough damage
Hi, guys just started out, which 5 heroes should I focus on for now ?
Beginner guide in pins
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Help please? :( lucretia used, ainz used, grez used
Swap Raku for eziz
Can anyone help me plz
nope ๐
daimon is not doing damage
maybe using mirael as a carry is the best option at first, even if you have daimon
Who has the most damage for the enemy
saveas
And freezing him with eziz didn't work
not
Try lyca brutus merlin eironn daimon
Try Brutus instead of lyca and swap positions with thoran
i just did this ๐ ๐
and didn't work too ๐
You might have to wait to get more levels
:/
Can anyone recommend me which 5 should j use
@keen rain Do you think the thoran cheese works with 4 star call or is there a different clear i can try (without talene)
Try fireflyโs clear, he used flora instead of talene
41-16, after letting my phone auto for 2 hours i have had no success on this stage. what do i need different? eironn never pulls, does he need more haste?
Its high rng
fk. would 9/9 queen or e30/e60 eironn be better to merc then?
been stuck at this damn stage for too long now lol
I merc'd Eironn
aight iโll try that thanks
Any tips on this stage? Khasos destroys my backline pretty hard so I try to putting him to sleep
You donโt use any tanks
Maybe bcs ur eironn takes taint?
I assume Atalene should take thoranโs taint here
Wdym
You have no tanks
But from those i have 5 which must i use?
Theyโre all good rn (early game) but you need a tank.
any way to avoid or prevent this?
Iโm at 40-4 not there yet. but u just need Ataleneโs hp less than eironโs
manibulate gear/furn or merc fat eiron/L Atalene
ok
no gear talene is still 5mil more health..
ah i can take off furn didnโt know that tbh..
lmao no furn talene and no gear still outdoes eironn ๐ฆ
lmao awakeneds r op
fr guess i just gotta merc one
I have M one if u need
oh i was just gonna merc a stronger eiron lol
iโm also having a balance issue in CR with silas and normal talene
give that a try, but then taint probably gonna go to someone else like skriath/queen
ohh i didnโt know atalene needed to be weakest
idk, u might get away with it if queen takes taint
but I assume atalene must be the least hp in ur team
yeah queen is barely higher than eironn dammit lol
damn. Iโm so annoyed that having TOO good of an Atalene caused me to be stuck on that stage lmao
I'm just getting destoryed, any help apreciated.
if youre still here then it doesnt necessarily need manual, perhaps a bit more rng if auto
Kinda giving up on this until. I get more levels on my team + lucretia
Getting destroyed very fast with lucretia not being able to melt enemies
Would appreciate any help for the line up
damn a fresh whale ๐
Yeah 
Try someone that can interrupt safiya pyramid like nara,Aezizh,etc.
Ok when you say try for example aezizh or nara
Is that an elite copy just having the level?
Or an actual built hero to survive and do things
Just an elite copy. Its even better for them to die fast so u can stack buffs from lucretia's si. They're just there to give support before dying.
Ok thanks a lot will try
Thanks 1 Aezizh did the job
lucy canโt kill torne. any suggestions?
Is she good and how to build my team now
Can I ask what team can I go ?
Any tips
Can I ask how much you've spent so far
Stuck here, need help
Hey can someone help me make 4 teams for chap 16?
4 teams or 5 teams
4 teams
luc inv/5p(when skr3f)
raku charm/cc
grez gb(oden fera silas)
scarlet+leftovers for last team
dunno about thoran cheese if low deficit
pls help me make lineup im new
depends on the team you are playing against
but prob do
Mishka, Thoran, oden, rowan, numisu/raku

brutus daimon fera lyca nara
oh lmao
if u want i can give a general idea on how it works so u can unstuck by yourself next time
Yea sure that'd be great
slot 1 brutus, so u dont have to worry about the asshead shem
slot 2 daimon. normally you wouldnt put daimon here because isa sucks him, but counters it with slot 5 nara
slot 3 n 4 fera and lyca. fera for outcc-ing enemy fera as well as isabella to chain the cc with nara, lyca to make his fear go out faster
sometimes you want to nara the enemy ferael instead because the fear is disgustingly long. but here u just cant stop the isabelle unless you have another instant disabler
Ahh thanks I'll try to remember that
What would be a good comp for early game? Story etc?
just use supports fir daimon and read beginner guides in #classic-questions if u havent alr
3 days of playing vip 13 ( 245010 / 300000 ) so no idea
Can anyone help?
Does this server feature a list own known powerful lineup combinations?
Can anyone help me with this
Anyone got any line up idea? Iโm trying to beat chap 12
Can anyone help with 26-36?
Any tips
Show stage
Daimon
What 
Swap Rowan with tasi
Daimon hard carry just fill
And put luci back or swap him he's not going to pop ultimate before he dies
Can someone help me?
Looks to me like you're making way too many heroes L or L+. Why? As for lineup ideas, you can look at formations that were used successfully for that battle before you press the Battle button. There's a Formations button that lets you see some options. You can also look at =afkhelper for some ideas.
what hero should i build up?
I just summon a lot, and thanks
This is the stage that I am stuck on, everyone uses this set up for the thoran cheese. I can pass the other 4 stages easy.
so you are not on -36 
If you read my message, I said chapter 36 is my other account
What the issue is exactly? canโt ult or not doing enough dmg?
Chapter 39, chapter 36.
I think it is the ult Iโm pretty sure
39-36 looks like a stage in ch39
u tried afkhelper? Hybridxy used different setup with ezizh
that should solve the ult issue
Yeah I used the one with Nara as well
I wanna see the amount of tries bc it will be a lottt haha
yea this one seems rng
uh, idk tbh. if u copied hybridxy and the nara clear. u should be able to do it
like one of them at least should work as long as ur gear/artis r the same
Hmmm I will leave it on auto battle, and I will @ you when I finish it. yeah my gear is above most of the people I copy.
the only thing people have over me is that they are farther in stargazing
show gear on thoran
yea thatโs not important. but yea keep trying and watch hybrixy clear if u want to see how the fight should be
yeah thats the problem
Hybrixy?
Okay, that shouldnโt be what everyone else is using. Fix thoranโs gear
Hmm? What do I leave off ?
0:00 All teams
0:06 R1: Lucretia Invade
0:30 R2: Alna GB
1:06 R3: Ainz Comp
1:53 R4: Raku Charm
2:33 R5: Thoran Cheese
it should look like this im pretty sure
donโt just take it off.
T2 5* your weap and boots or give him someoneโs else T3
give him Elite chest
I donโt have elite but I have legendary
just take it off then, but keep an elite chest when u get one later
it gives ACC which helps with rng
Hi, i just restarted the game and I don't remember anything. Can you guys help me build a good team with what I have ? You can also tell me who to focus on upgrading or who I should pull. Thanks.
My problem is mehira living with 2 hp
just rng it then. she should take taine which will drain her 3 lives and then u kill her
Iโm stuck ๐ฟ
Idek man tbh. Also just a question, why is support in front? I usually see them being used in back
โฆ Anyone wanna help me make 4 teams cause I finally hit chapter 35?
Idk , I use rowane in the front because he has immune by then my team gets full energy to wipe the stage
Daimon would prolly tank better in front compared to Rowan
And that question made me succeed the stage ๐๐
Yup I just cleared I made rowane behind
Fire
Yessir
And just like that finished the chapter 
That's my team. I want to replace morrow with someone more useful. Any suggestions pls?
Stuck on this stage could really use some help
Try daimon rowan nara brutus ferael
Thanks

Pleaaase help
who should I lvl up? Any team suggestions for 5 graveborn?
please help me with story lineup
Lineups will change from stage to stage, only your carry stays the same for early game (daimon). Learn what each hero does and where he can be used to counter specific enemies
Can someone just tell me if this is possible or not before I waste my time on trying
Please help ;d Gwyn or Scarlet or Lucrecia(for later in the game) instead of awk thane ?
Hi, i just restarted the game and I don't remember anything. Can you guys help me build a good team with what I have ? You can also tell me who to focus on upgrading or who I should pull. Thanks.
I passed out and it is still on auto battle with the same stage ;-;
tf, can u ss replay with arti and gears ?
My phone is so warm omggg
the only one who is living is the mehira
that sounds rng to me, what should happen here is mehira takes taint and then everytime her hp gets to 1, kelthur kills one of her 3 lives.
but maybe ur thoran isnโt taking enough dmg to get mehira to 1 hp bcs ur deficit kinda low
have u tried with nara pulling mehira after u fixed thoranโs gear?
@urban halo ^
no
thatโs all I can think of, other than that it may just be a deficit issue.
Heeelp ๐ฆ
Game won't launch when launching company
Send hero box
I would consider restarting because you've made some mistakes that can deffinitely hinder ur progression. For now i recommend reading the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions.
Just started does my wishlist matter that much or are there any must haves in there
it matters A LOT
there's a beginners' wishlist pinned in #classic-questions for you to copy
Ah ok ty
I don't have Gwyneth yet but i will get her soon ;d i still want to know even if i don't have her tho ๐
level wuk to 100 for now, ignore other units
afterwards level daimon. again, ignore other units
Ok
What do i need to work on im stuck on chapter 8
Any suggestions with the hero i have?
read the guides in pins in #classic-questions
i know i need to play with daimon but what is the best way to surround it ?
Youโll want a single copy of Nara to lockout tasi from banishing daimon
Would the top row be my best lineup for grinding quickly
Or should I switch it around some
๐ฆ
sotp ascending your heroes to legendary
restart your progress
you upgraded the majority of your heroes to legendary and you're gonna be stuck for a LOOOONG while, so save urself the time and start from the beginning
i highly advise you to read the guides found in #classic-questions so you are able to make consistent progress
wdym those are the heroes i'm using xd, im only upgrading the rest to elite+ only to use them as food
current lineup is daimon, hogan, twins, lyca, and rowan.
any suggestions for improvement
Iโd say put scarlet in there
varies per stage but id do thoran daimon ferael lyca and rowan
Need lineup for pvp and multistage pvp, can anyone help
Hi ! Where I can find tier list ? Thanks ๐
You can try Arthur and albedo in front, ainz, Silas and pharael behind
And multistage a team with graveborn, a team with dimensional and a team with lucretia
its start to be hard to grind maybe i can do something better ?
Can't get this level. Not even with the recommended setups from afk helper
did you give up after less than 50 tries?
Yeah I think I've tried at least 100 times
show me the teams you used and clear from afkhelper
Am I doing this wrong ? I can't get Thoran to ult once
4 photos max iirc
team from 3rd pic here should work just make sure to give correct artis
and how far away are you from 3f chicken?
don't have any of his furn yet unfortunately
4th pic here doesnt work?
nope. normally this users work perf for me but for some reason this level is really kicking my butt
Hybrid uses Aezizh here
Ezizh will work differently
is there way without Aezizh ?
also your ainz doesnt work because you dont have +30 bedo
try this
arg both of them level 1, will that work still ?
You'd want them on crystal
do you see his rc
ah shoot crystal is full; ill try with another slot soon then : /
oh sry

Never saw that
I'd recommend Aezizh then, most likely Hybrid made that version since it is lower rng
im blind as always
no worries
+30 as in SI30 or e30
si
ah yeah she's +25 rn
still early in game just wondering besides wukong + fodders what team can i main
I did give it a try and I still don't get nowhere close that's weird
What variant are you using
Removed the Crit dmg reduction from Thoran also
U can try this
She Interrupt Mehira at the start
i'll try to see if i get closer this way
My queen shit any other option
queen can work at 000 and atalene is just there for sp so no need whale atlane
hmm
its like 20s fight for me
they kill me so quick
In the guide it says I should upgrade tanks second. Should I upgrade izol still before oden even if i have more copies of oden?
Saw a video of him being a decent tank. Should I rather replace him with someone else?
he is good in tower but oden better
maybe merc better skriath help more than atalene ?
you need 5* eye and 303 chicken for that @wary pagoda
also how tf are you in ch40 without 3f chicken 

you have ?
nah but i know that aurora needed that

Help
Do you have 3 mythic firm cards lying around? If so do skriath immediately the fact your in ch 40 without it is mind boggling
i finish that stage
Kk no worries
i miss many heroes ๐ and im in ch40 so its okey
Anything I need to switch around and who would be my best lineup ?
Any advice on the next hero to ascend ?
u just need better eirron then rng
What line up should I use??
any tips for this stage? my team has big trouble with brutus and his invul
What to do now ๐ฆ
How come u clear so far omg ๐ณ even lower than my level
I just started the game like 15 minutes ago and this is my current team
Any tips or suggestions
XD Idk if it's far but I got a pretty decent team comp to work with and I sometimes spend like 1 hour just trying different placements in a stage XD
u gave me motivation to 21 now haha
im at 20-28 lol but i have full ascend team still lose unlike urs
oh that's not far apart
yeah I'm trying to get a full ascended team as well. Mind you that half 4/5 of my characters are still really strong without ascension, basically everyone but Riku
gl!
Maybe Iโm not good on that u experience player ?
I played like 3 years ago and gave up after getting stuck mid-way idk my account anymore though.
Idk if that counts as replaying, and I don't remember when I started for this acc but I'm lvl 71
everything still same or diff already ? ahaha
im totally new tho so much mistake and confuse haha
Honestly it feels the same but just a lot more to do / a lot more chars
Hey I need help with a team please need something smacking lmao
nah it's ok, you'll learn. There's a lot of resources on this server as well
e.g.,
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZLSDhbeAwX8_RU9nJL8RG3oWA0D10QEjuSWpMxx8zg/edit#
Table of Contents Introduction Whaling 101 When Does ____ Unlock? Heroes Fodder Ascended Tier Celepogeans Dimensionals Tavern Time Your Wishlist Normal Summons Friendship Summons Faction Summons Hero Choice Pack (HCP) Stargazing Shops The Store Guild Store Barracks Labyrinth Store Challenger S...
what are u needing help with?
Excellent start just make sure you don't get careless with ascensions

prospective teams?
Should i grab anyone or just get the scrolls
grab nara
Im stuck on this floor for like week, help
Who to work on as my 5th
You're going to find yourself stuck with no fodder soon if you continue the way you are. I'd recommend reading the beginner's guides in #classic-questions and this: โฌ๏ธ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
@cobalt moth
Why you ping me for no reason?
Whats this +20 +30 at the end i didn't understand, Isnt Rowan Diamon and Mishka 3 worth to L NO?
U can see im typing idk why open chat lol
That's their SI level. You don't unlock that until they are at least M ascension.
Still, try not to ping until there's actually something to see. I see ping. I look. I have to wait while you type? Lame.
@cobalt moth
I will f'ing block you. stop it.
Stay mad kid idk why ur looking for a issue,
And blocked. Don't be rude to those that help you. ๐
Barking doesn't help, stay mad๐


Elaborate
Anything I can do rn?
Anyone got ideas for a good pvp team for me? I just finally got my lucy to ascended status yesterday and I kinda wanna use her but idk what team to make
5 pull lucy, gb team, mishka scarlet
if u have alb u can go ainz comp
My albedo isn't fully build yet. Only si25 and someone said that she doesn't work with Ainz yet then or something
need si30
What would the 5 pull Lucy team be for me? I see so many variations online ๐
chicken lyca eironn lucy, the last one can be safiya or normal brutus or zolrath
Lol chicken ๐๐ okay thanks!
hi guys I'm new. What's a good team for me? Currently stuck at ch10-21, thanks
@narrow jacinth @golden storm Read the beginner's guides in #classic-questions and this: โฌ๏ธ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Help pls
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
3rd paragraph/section is most important
Hi guys, would need some help on this stage. Any ideas?
I'm assuming you've tried a bunch of different configurations? With Lycan for haste? With Daimon up front? Various position combos in the back? Even with Rowan not necessarily in the middle? I've actually had a surprising amount of luck with Rowan out of center so long as Daimon is still in his range. I'm assuming you have Rowan at SI+30 and Daimon at +20?
Is there a way to check my prior clears?
We all wish. Sadly no.
oh dang
Well if it helps that guy above, once I got Brutus to 7sec immunity (lv 141 I think), I pushed with the following generally:
x
y
z
Brutus
Daimon
Daimon
Brutus
x
y
z
where xyz is Nara/Eironn/Lyca/Thoran/Oden/Silas/Rowan where appropriate
Yep. Tried with Lyca daimon oden thoran Brutus mishka ferael rowan. Different combinations and positions for them. Think Iโm down to like 70 tries now. Daimon +20 Rowan getting to +10(didnโt get last copy to l+ until recently)
Ah...Rowan +30 will change your life there. Sadly, I don't know what else to tell you. You may just have to wait and level your heroes.
do u have eironn
Sadly only at E+. Here is my second part of box. I can merc, but first trying to see if I can do it without
E+is fine, just need the pull
u can try lyca brutus ferael eironn daimon
Wow! That worked. Donโt really get the eirron role there, mostly to@interrupt Arden and nemora at the start of fight?
Thanks!!
Help plz
Gather enemies so that daimon recovers energy faster
Put daimon backline
Ok
Do I have anyone I should be using?
put eironn athalia nara in the crystal, they r useful in some stages
for now follow =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Any tips? This feels kinda impossible to do XD
maybe backline your daimon
and if you have a nara or eirron use them on isabella
can someone help me with my lineup? ^^
Im doing the right thing yeah? I recently legend+ oden coz i have enough foods. No good characters has been feed. All fodders my last legend+ will be lightbearer
Anyone to tank athalia
Brutus, or any heroes with high dodge
With a high dodge? Like who
I have a red transfer ticket should I use it on anybody?
save
I've been saving it for like a year now, what am I saving it for?
doesnt matter you have no one to use it anything that you use will be a waste
save if the meta changes in the future
Ok
anyone have tips for progressing?
Can recommend me any good lineup ?
Need some help getting a good pvp team
Im having a problem with Saurus survivalibity, Im thinking about building the team around him. Should i exchange Safiya with Haelus for him? Saurus is always the farthest on line so should receive buffs from Haelus. Haelus would also strenghten Daimon shield. Im observing Safiya do the least in this team, she's dead before she can use her long-cast ulti. Even wukong is doing more with bamboozling the enemy
Need help pls
Try lyca instead of thoran then for the last slot someone like arden/ferael to cancel numisu totem and enemy ferael fear.
Ur team is having a hard time surviving because u dont have a healer. Also i recommend reading the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions.
anyone here who can lend me a built vyloris and a standard legendary tarnos for misty? would appreciate you forever and ever
Hey i just playing afk arena again and idk what is meta rn can someone help me with my lineup
Anyone got a tip for 10-40? I cant deal with those mages dealing 40k crit with each auto... Thats the team i used through all this chapter
And mercenaries are only available in 4 days
Should I replace anyone in this team with Rowan or estrilda?
honestly since all your units are high level just progress as far as you can
Ale thank you!
Alr*
Can't progress this at all, any tips or changes that could help?
If tasi is stun chained to not banish my damage dealer, then safiya and kel have an easy time destroying the entire team
I did try putting athalia on tasi but she keeps dodging the stun
You fucked up your account
There is no damage in your team. I don't understand your decision to pump Gwyneth in the presence of Damon
Managed to get over the stage easily after switching up tasi, and the acc's just fine, I'm getting a second damage dealer built up
Does anyone know what I can do here
I jus get slapped then lucious shield makes it hard to kill
gonna assume you have lyca/nara; try
lyca brutus nara eironn daimon
brutus lyca daimon eironn nara
thoran brutus lyca eironn daimon
brutus thoran daimonn eironn lyca
rng heavy but one of these did it for me (wish there was a way for me to check...)
(FYI)
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Ok Iโll try that thx
Tasi will be your worst enemy moving forward lol
I hate her stages
all of it
The 2nd lineup worked thx u man

gonna assume you have these:
lyca brutus nara eironn daimon
brutus lyca daimon eironn nara
thoran brutus lyca eironn daimon
brutus thoran daimonn eironn lyca
if you Farael, you can also try interchanging him with Nara where possible
rng heavy but one of these did it for me (wish there was a way for me to check...)
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Ok
Nah wait until you meet Isabella again
Swap scroll Belinda for raku
U prolly want a new mentor tbh
I did and now Iโm at chapter 27
stuck
Try
Lyca
Thoran
Eironn
Brutus
Daimon
Read pins. Read more carefully.
Thoran M & Eironn E+ usable?
Should I grab anyone or just wait
save for dims
Ok
Should be (100%)
Stuck 
Tbh idek but I would say to take out 3 4 and 5 but prioritize 3. (i forget names so im just calling them by their numbers.)
wat

I just got more confused 
just ignore him
gonna assume you have these:
lyca brutus nara eironn daimon
brutus lyca daimon eironn nara
thoran brutus lyca eironn daimon
brutus thoran daimonn eironn lyca
if you Farael, you can also try interchanging him with Nara where possible
rng heavy but one of these did it for me (wish there was a way for me to check...)
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EDIT: shameless copy and paste from earlier
Any lineup suggestions and what relics on them
Im kinda stuck on this one. Thane and Daimon carried pretty hard so far but this stage seems to do so much dmg and cc. Any suggestions? Or maybe Iโm just underleveld and gotta wait for some Essence
Any tips for this stage?
lyca daimon nara eironn brutus
i wish i could check my specific win formation but my initial thought is above
FYI
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Hello! I'd like to ask for help. What is your opinion for my best lineup here?
tbh doesnt really matter in the very early game
wukong can hard carry up until hero level 100
to answer your question tho
oden
brutus
silas
wukong
nara/silvina
btw i see that you have a legendary rowan, just sharing this while you're still in early progression =earlygame
IIRC daimon and rowan are exceptions to the L+ ascension rule, daimon even more so
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Oops wrong channel
Thank you so much! Just to clarify, I won't use Rowan currently for my lineup?
He's the most upgraded so you probably should haha, I was just defaulting to how I build my teams purely based on role (not necessarily tier)
Instead of Brutus in my earlier recommendation, use Rowan (at his current ascension level, he should serve the same purpose as Brutus in the early game)
Oden
Rowan
Silas
Wukong
Nara/Silvina
hi guys kinda new to the game and idk what iโm doing ๐ i need help on a good lineup ๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป
Tbh looking at this it might be better just to start fresh again to save yourself a lot of time since you made so mane L heros go to the #faq-resources and read hero acension priorities and ask for a beginners guide in #classic-questions
But if you want to stick with the account read them all the same to set yourself on the right course
Any suggestion?, on who should i put on my team
You've made some mistakes. Go read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions.
need help
Any help with this? Thoran revives but dies before he can ult
I used blade on Thoran
Also am I supposed to โsoul fusionโ somoene to geralt or yen
I got it with barricade on thoran
Congrats
need a decent 5 man team for story
Read pinned guides in #classic-questions
Help is appreciated ;-;
if you want too
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you asked if you should soul fuse yen and geralt and my response was if you want too your so early in the game using there trial wont be helpful imo
Trial?
did you just buy them outright? or are you using the trial version for 3 days?
Oh I bought them lmfao, Ik itโs weird but Iโm a massive witcher fan and itโs the reason I came to the game
Should I remove anyone or switch the positions in this?
nah your fine i was just trying to understand brains a little slow this morning lol so they take on the ascension level and star level of any hero you fuse them too and becuase your so early in the game it doesnt matter who you link them too but as time goes on you will have to ideally fuse them to useless heros or specfic tower heros who arnt used in main campaign comps
with what im seeing youve made poor invesmtent choices with heros and are stuck everywhere positioning doesnt matter if the heros are bad
thoran great for high deficit content, aw ezizh great for some intial single target cc, ulmus bad at everything and is only a tower hero, morrow decent cc and damage but agian a tower hero, tidus good cc and knockback but again a tower hero
Who do you recommend I use?
show your hero box cant reccommend what you dont have
But I can for sure swap who itโs fused to right? And do u by any chance know how to make a lineup out of the characters I sent?
These guys
if you go to the temple of ascnsion you can unfuse them from the heros you fused them too it costs diamonds
go to the rickety cart and use some diamonds to unlevel a heros you only want to have 5 leveled at any given time and one of them should be the gold boarder talene take her as high as you can
Gotchu Iโll unlevel a good bit, which 3 should I keep alongside geralt, yen, and talene
ouch i can see why your stuck, so you can either attempt to fix this account which will take quite sometime or you can start on the newest server and aim to play the game more optimally with meta heros
geralt and yen will be linked to the other 4 heros doesnt matter who at the moment your still in the early game talene will just carry you till prob ch 8 or 9
Linked to the other 4? Iโm confused how dims work Ngl
So linked dim heroโs take on the level of the hero and the ascension level
so since i have ezio linked to a hero who is ascneded 2 stars he is ascended 2 stars but only level 1 so hes useless to be used where as joker is linked to a hero who is leveled so he gains the levels and the ascension tiers so all you have to do to use geralt and yen is link them to heros who are leveled and not actually level them
Can I use the unit Iโm linked to?
So like I link it to Talene
Since sheโs awakened
sadly not till you have a dimensional key and thats quite some time away
Okay so link to a leveled unit outside of my team
shes going to be your carry geralt and yen wont really see a lot of use sadly till your about mid game probably and we also dont know how good they will be in the game in general since they just came out
This works?
yup thatll do put talene front row so she can get damaged for energy quicker
Damn youโre right sheโs nuts
Help me get lineups please, im stuck at 7-24
try to push tower for more fodder and if you get daimon to L he should be able to keep carrying your doing fine
Do i just need to ascend normally? I dont understand ascend guide at all
you want to only ascend 3 skill heros unless its rowan and daimon
Ive ascended some heroes kther than that category, is that fine?
to e+ is fine but to L avoid doing so
Alright, and do my lineups fine? Any heroes i need to change?
you are doing fine no need to change anything but hopefully you are following the beginner guide thats pinned in #classic-questions
My guide sources are from google before, lmao
oh umm yeah go look at those guides guides from google could be 2 or 3 years old these are upto date
Alright, thanks a lot btw
Anybody have f2p friendly CR lineups
Should ascend Arden or wait?
Need a tank or smtn idk
Need help with this stage , any ideas?
try
eironn
lyca
nara
daimon
brutus
Cross fingers hope RNG goes your way