#lineup-help
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idk just try different heroes
Why Normal brutus over awaken ?
He has a longer invincibility period, which is all you really need
is this thoran comp good or should i invest more?
Thank you
Hate it to be stuck on non boss stages💩
you have ainz comp, use it
I just want to have some thoughts about my comp as I am only using one. Im fairly new so I just want to know if this is ok
Am at level 10-16
honestly i'd reroll that account, its early in the game so you arent losing too much but it allows you to try to get more copies of daimon/ better heros. Theres also a beginner guide in the pins of #classic-questions that you can check for what heroes to use
Second what they said, it's early enough that you can re-roll and get back to where you are in under a week.
Setting up an initial wishlist based on the beginner guides is very important, or you'll end up with a lot of junk heroes like Shem.
I mean I got here in 2 days lol
How do I reroll it?
Settings-Select server-choose a different server (either the most recent or the one before it if you're in the most recent still)
Beginner guides are a wealth of important information, wishlist is #1 thing to set up then you can read into the efficient early game set-ups
Is there an active list of codes?
List of active codes*
go to #faq-resources and open the "redeeming codes" one, gives a link to codes and where to redeem
some may be expired though, the one-off ones tend to be short lived
Trying to see if thoran cheese will work on 36-8, here are the two most used set ups against two different teams but neither are working for me
The first one nothing groups, the second thoran isn't making it through everyone since skreg comes in late and doesn't do much damage
Any way you can see this working?
Nvm took cheese out for a random scarlet comp that worked
izold and grezhul which one is the better tank?
grez is much more useful
Grez without question, izold more for tower iirc.
I got up to chapter 13-15 with mainly Solise carrying, but it's been dropping off since I can't LVL any higher and I'm pretty stuck. Any tips?
I struggle
Fawkes banishes lyca, and luc dies or get silenced and cant ult and dies
Even if it all works out ros kills my luc, despite there being only rose and eziz and eziz doing 0 damage
try using ankha instead of lyca and backline her, maybe put both luc and brutus on lower side to avoid ezizh brain damage(?)
Joined new server yesterday. Used all available codes to get this. Any advice on lineup please? Will also need a guild ty
Current team is Daimon, Talene, Rowan, Arden and Silas. Starting to struggle fairly frequently in campaign. Would you folks make any general comp changes and if so, what? Got enough crystal slots to put whatever is needed in there.
Izold is a glasscannon fighter , he needs to take dmg to deal dmg.
So
Grezhul is better as tank
Sure. I'll give it a spin! No Rowen? Too low level to be useful at the mo'?
Thanks for the advice. Missing Brutus at the moment, mind. Could I use that GB tank in the interim?
Don't think I have those either.
Ah! Sorry, still very new. Terminology is still new to me. Will do! Thanks.
What lineups should I do? (I will LVL up the characters)
=earlygame explains everthing in detail
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Is my line-up ok? Should I change something?
Read the beginner guides, you already made wayyyyyy to many legendary heroes
Oh 😭😭😭😭
What abt this account?
This one looks more promising tbh just because you have daimon. He carries early game like crazy
If I put a hero at the right side for the new hero to adapt level, do I loose the right hero ?
Are you talking about the swap scroll? Then yes, the other one looses investment
are you talking about the dimensional soul fusion? If so, no you don't loose the hero but you can't use the two in the same formation (unless you use a dimensional key)
Picture doesn‘t load, I got ainz ooal gown from the friendliest/Garrison
Game offers me the possibility that he adapts level of one of my champs
Ohhh, no he doesnt loose anything
Ainz will just copy the level of the other hero used, but both heroes cant be used in the same battle (unless you link a dimensional key to them)
Ok so this is my team and this is the characters I have, should I replace someone?
Thanks
Frontline:
Talene + sonja
Backline:
Oden rosaline(linked to daimon) daimon
Might want to switch positions for some battles
Alr
Alr I like this team
Ya its alright for the beginning. Talene helps with surviving. Oden regulates enemies energy and rosaline buffa daimon to deal even more aoe dmg
Ooo interesting thank you so much
No worries🙋🏼♂️
Hi Guys, bit stuck on this one, any advise?
Also check out =afkhelper if you didnt know it exists
Any recomendation /
Do you have AwEzizh? Do you have Rowan at SI+30? I cleared this level with Grez, Daimon, AwEzizh, Rowan, and Ferael. I don't remember the exact order, but some combo thereof.
my rowan is mythic+ with +20 SI and i dont have AwEzizh
FWIW, you shouldn't push your hero to M+ until you are prepared to push for A. Waste of fodder.
Any suggestions for rosters ? Would appreciate help via dm as well
Wait...did you engrave your Daimon and not Grez? You definitely want to engrave Grez first. =engraving
Priorities for Hero Engravings
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994910793214722140
You should be pushing Rowan's SI to +30. Then he helps Daimon ult faster. Try also using Lyca to push haste. If you haven't already, try putting Daimon in the front row too. Sometimes that helps him ult faster, if he doesn't die.
Um...I'm not sure about rosters at that level. Usually the heroes aren't built well at the level (with SI and furn), so it's kind of hard. Usually, it's just a matter of overpowering your foes. But I can definitely suggest you read the beginner's guide pinned to #classic-questions and look at the summary below.
You really need to stop pushing heroes to L that you aren't prepared to take to M or A; it's a waste of fodder. Ainz is almost a waste of resources when you don't have his furniture ready for him. Do you? You should be leveling 4 fodder heroes and Daimon as a carry at this point in the game. You can sub one of those fodder heroes out for Rowan if you happen to have enough copies to get him to M, too.
Read this: =earlygame ⬇️
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Thx for your advice i will try to do that
👍
Thanks
Current roster, its going alr but I don't trust much of these online guides that told me to try other heroes. Any suggestions
Yes, reading pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions will definitely help. You already made a few beginner mistakes, which could have been easily avoided
Yeah noticed after the facr
hey so im running alna graveborn and im trying to get oden for a flex slot and wanted to ask what his requirements are or are there non? most "meta comp" websites dont show all the requirements for every single unit
His minimum investment is 203 iirc, but he eventually wants 209-->209 e41-->309 e41 depending on your progression
alright thanks ill do that then 😄
helpppp
I'm stuck on this stage for like 4 days, i just need 1500 more dust to be able to improve my crystal level to 160, should i wait to increase my level or can i beat this stage now?
daimon
So I should not use the mirael?
nono still use her she’s very good early on
But just make daimon higher leveled?
yes
wait i just realised, why are you using a R+ instead of an E+ mireal ? 😭
and make sure you ascend the rest of your heroes too
Why engraving Shemira and Lucius?
bcz i came back after a few years of not playing and didn’t realise they were bad now
Oh okay, well stop making ascended tier heroes legendary+
? why
Because it's useless, those legendary+ heroes will need a lot of time to ascend them, you're not using them as food right?
i thought aslong as you had enough copies of that hero it was okay to ascend to L+?
Nope not really, as long as you can't ascend that hero then just avoid making it legendary+ basically
why tho?
Because you're wasting food for nothing if you're not ascending that hero
Those are food, whenever you make random ascended tier heroes legendary+, you're basically just wasting your food
What are some good Scarlet campaign comps? I have all heroes except awakened
She is a flex hero not core of any comp
u can use her in 5-pull, gb, charm, LDV team ( I see her mostly with gb tho when it needs more dmg )
Oh I’m stupid
I need some help
Any tips? My team gets pretty destroyed by the two chars in the back.
where +30 Albedo 
no Nara? Maybe try Ferael instead Silas but I don't guarantee anything
I do not have albedo
I managed to push through with some overlevelling and rng spam. Now I'm stuck on this though XD
I can get nara from this but it is worth it?
I don't want to say anything but I think she's the best pick you can get there
maybe wait for someone else to say something
Nara if u dont have a copy otherwise scrolls. U need nara to counter certain backline enemies thats gonna make ur life in afk arena a living hell.
Hello everyone, do you have any tips on how to pass the level 21-60 ? I'm completely stuck here, no matter what I try
(Haven't tried mercenary yet but I'd like to do without)
What happens?
If you dont need the damage from scarlet you can swap her with lyca
Daimon is the one doing the damage. But he just gets destroyed the moment his Shield isn't up
And everyone else but Brutus is almost getting one-shoted each time
I even tried to put only Brutus and Daimon at the bottom but it doesn't get the job done.
Daimon just can't take less than 100k HP per hit once his Shield isn't up yet or down
Swapping Scarlet for Lyca doesn't work, swapping Silas for Lyca doesn't work either
gl hf
guys I'm new here today , any suggestions for team?
try using lyca instead of talene
Can’t beat this level ☹️
didn’t work
Gave up on 54 and used friend unit. Any tips for this.
i used one from campaign helper, it worked
one more thing, what’s a good guild hunt team
Help?
Could someone help me with this stage? I’m stuck. These are my heroes
Nvm I did it, just had to switch some characters positions
Ok now I really need help
I tried a bunch of lineups
Any suggestions on a team I’m new and I honestly suck at this rn
Thoughts? Wanna make sure I have a good lineup before pushing farther. Willing to level as needed
Estrilda and kren are probably trash for you rn. Might want to add smth else
Only been playing a day, so I don't have too much
Ye. I just am missing 2 supports
Not sure who to sub kren/estrilda for
I know raku is good, but idk how good
Or If he's worth building rn
Raku is good with his sig 30, you're far from that rn
Arden + whatever should be ok
slap wukong in there instead of kren
he should be great until 100
which hero can i put in place of ira
my lineup is hogan and eironn in frontline and shemira mirael ira in the back
i just rerolled btw
dont have it unlocked yet
im only chapter 3
and im talking about replacing not crystalling
any suggestions on how this level
any suggestions on how this level
I'm stuck pls help, Idk what team I should use here (I'm having a hard time with this chapter) team suggestions would be amazing 🙏
I'm f2p btw 😔
Nothin?
Im also f2p, its no big deal, there are so many free rewards f2p is quite easy
Yes, stop making legendaries!!!!!!
Yes yes I know now 😭😭😭
Yea it ruins ur acc
any suggestions on how to beat this level
Yeah😭😭 I dunno why I did it I don’t even use most of them 😭
Look at how bad my friends acc is, i told him to just delete his acc😭
So ur not in too deep
That’s a lot 😨
Hes in chp 23, and he has no ascended heroes
what the fuck is this
Oh 😨
I got my first one in chap 16
My friends acc, and worst of all, my other friend in chap 35 helped him make al that legendaries
😱 I’m at the end of chp 15 and I don’t even have a mythic+ hero yet 😭😭


He has a m+ gwyn and a l gwyn😂
Anyways bye y’all gtg going camping for like 3 days hopefully so won’t be online
Enjoy
Am I in too deep? 😀
You will probably be stuck at lvl 140/160 for a longer period of time, since you will have to ascend fodder up to legy+ to increase your legy+ heroes to mythic to be able to increase your level cap again
saveas 1 tap all my tank pls help me
any suggestions on what my lineup should look like? I’m having a bit of trouble and don’t know how to progress
You should consider resetting Rowan and using a fodder hero instead so you can push your level higher. You can just put Rowan on your crystal. Read the beginner's guides in #classic-questions and it should help.
Specifically for you lineup though, I'd refer you to this post a little while ago:
https://discordapp.com/channels/441477431501783060/565578751715573770/1016835498905448488
ok thank you
For your lineup, see the link I just posted. I'd also recommend you read the beginner's guides in #classic-questions
but right now i dont have the fifth legendary fodder yet
That shouldn't take long. I just didn't want you trapping yourself. When you get it to a good place to replace Rowan, you can reset Rowan and use the resources to level the fodder. It'll take you further early game until you get 4 copies of Rowan, Daimon, or Raku; or 8 copies of any other hero.
thank you
Trying to push to 30-21 to unlock next Wandering Balloon - any lineup tips? Hitting a wall everywhere and not doing well enough in the Vault of Time
also ehy did u engrave thoran?
i dont think that was a very good decision for ur point in the game
aso why no rowan +30
maybe try alna grez fera brutus rowan
mistakes, started a long time ago and came back recently with a ton of things to redeem, thoran was my highest so i just pushed him to +30 Engraving mindlessly and realized my mistake afterwards, been focusing grezhul since
had ferael first way early game and got him +30, got mythic rowan after that and have been working on it
ok
Anyone have a link to proper thoran gear setup as well as team ideas for him? I already use a 5 pull Luc, ainz, and gb with daimon instead of alna and need thoran as my 4th
Thoran changes every stage
Who do I use? Just unlocked resonance crystal
@royal hill
@obsidian quail daimon/silas
Daimon, Silas and which other 3?
Maybe
Daimon
golus
Oden
a tank
Silas/arden
Kk
you could try miskha and a like hogan or golus front and back daimon, silas and arden or something
kk
Just got shemira, should I add her onto the team or na
na
Shem is shit. She was good back in 2019 
In most cases you can just go with
Daimon
Golus
Silvina
Hogan
Arden
Thoran works well on frontline early, both as a tank and then as cc, Silvina can be replaced with any cc or a healer, ideally Rowan
Solise or pippa
Any help
Solise or pippa
None of those
any suggestions?
Hey guys
This is my current lineup
And I'm looking for a garrison hero don't know which one would be better for me I need recommendation for garisson hero
i dont recommend garrisoning early
I auto run this for 2h now and yet no success. Anything im doing wrong here? Maybe brutus only elite?
U need an L+ or lower Brutus
Just checked my clears
Alright imma check if i have one. Thank you!
Could u merc me ur brutus on L+?
Nope
But i can ask 1 of my guildies if u want
Yeah would be great if its no problem for you
ID
127462070
Sti stuck here
Added
Thank u so much
Good luck
Worked perfectly fine 😄
Congrats
Thanks alot
np
any help returning player dont know which heroes tend to be good or not
I'm stuck at 41-24. I've spent a couple hours before i realized it needs to be manual, but... over the few hours my leonardo never ulted once before raku died, so it doesn't seem to matter anyway. In fact raku ALWAYS dies before leonardo ults, no matter how many times i retry. Both are e36, the only thing that's different for me compared to the comps people use is that my merc zolrath uses chaos bringer instead of dura's blade - but i don't think this is the issue here. I'm honestly at a loss. Could the issue be my leonardo only being SI20? Because i don't know what else. I'm probably at over 100 manual retries right now. Are there any alt teams for this stage?
does your ldv have res t3 gear? he might need his t4 gear
he's got t3, but people cleared this stage with this comp before t4
oh, he's also only f3 if that makes a big difference, i honestly don't know
i cant go back and look at my clear otherwise i would, but i know my raku is e44 and i know my ldv has t4 gear on to aid with dodge
which nodes e44 for raku?
i can e44 him and see if it helps since i've been planning to e60 him in the future anyway
im not saying it will but the extra dodge might be a factor those are my only thoughts other than ldv 9f like you pointed out
yeah but im willing to give this a try
hmm i'll give it a try now and see how it goes
alright, thanks
hmmm now it seems that leo just ults too slow... i don't know what else i can do at this point. guess i'll try to get him t4 boots for haste and hope that does the trick
i think i kept it on auto till ldv ult the first time then took it off and manualed it from there
but i was able to merc a 9f ldv since i had zol at his min
i just use my macro to spam leo's ult since no other ult matters anyway
i would ult everyone but raku on the macro if you can no point in not that could be why
cant be bothered to make a macro this complex :p
fair fiar best of luck im off to wrk lol
actually, i just got it, i guess the raku engraving really did make a difference :p
ah well congrats you should be into ch42 in no time then
yep, as far as i see this was the biggest wall in this chapter
till 41-60
as long as it's not manual it's easy 😎
he he eh no just horriable memories took me 8 hours 3 game crashes and 4500 cores to make my oden e60
my oden is already e60 so i'm ready 😎
How the hell do i beat this?
What should i change about in team 3 and 5 also is there smt i should change in any of the other teams
read the beginners guide in #classic-questions
try
Nara
Daimon
Silas
Thoran
aBrutus
play around with positioning but 100% Nara played significant role in getting me to chp18
Struggling with chapter 34, stuck on making 3 teams since im still missing key toons
Used to play a couple years ago and recently started over, who should I be investing in? Currently investing in Daimon, and I know my Shemira mistake lmao
wukong solid carry to lv 100 while you build daimon up
brutus goes a long way specially when you get that one skill up to 7sec immunity
build scarlet rowan
regurgitating what i hear around here lol
Haha thanks!
Any tips
Suggestions for arena team? Or even three teams
Suggestions for arena team?
Hi! Just started playing yesterday and was hoping someone could help me figure out what team I should be using to push the story. I'm currently on chapter 7.
Hi just rejoined after a couple of years away. Found an old account on s19. Level 183. I left the game before all the new features. Looking for any advice and in particular a mentor please....
I Would Put A Tank in Front line like daimon. Buffer/Healers backline means i sould change rowan with daimon
daimon is definitely not a tank
i would restart since s19 asf u will loose out on a lot of income (chal coins and diamonds)
maybe an ainz comp, scarlet comp, athane cycle
i would get daimons signature item to +20 and i would not get anymore l heroes since kinda of a waste of fodder i would try
daimon
alna
rowan
another tank
rosa (follow daimon)/oden/fera/arden
Thanks. How am I losing out on diamonds and challenge coins? If I'm happy not smashing up arena, seems like I have a leg up already on s19?
u get chal coins based on ur eanking
u get diamonds daily from arrna
and on a newer server it would be a fairer playing field
also there is ts which is based on tegion so
for example my alt is on s5 and it cant compete
nice rank in ts
Thanks. Will have a look at arena treasure scramble etc. See how it goes and if it's worth restarting. Ty
ikr main acc 2%
im 4% 
noobie op whale
what

Someone help
wat team should i use
Daimon lyca Brutus Rosaline (for daimon) and idk oden is okay ig
@foggy crest @hoary harbor You should both read the beginners guide in #classic-questions.
Also ⬇️ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
you dont think i read all of the guides already?
It certainly doesn't appear that way. Maybe you read them and aren't following them? Or don't understand them?
The main clue is that you're leveling a-tier heroes without the requisite copies of them, rather than fodder.
any help?
Top row is my lineup, should i swap shemira and astar?
Can you explain what the problem is? Who dies first? Is Mirael able to ult? Is Daimon?
I'd recommend you look at the beginner's guides in #classic-questions. And read this ⬇️ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
she is but my tanks fie before getting ult orr for example my mishka dies too quick and my astar ults too late sometimes
My whole team is squishy
Have you tried using Golus as tank? I found him to be one of my least squishy tanks at that level
alrigjt
@cobalt moth what is a priority hero? of those talked about in the wall of text, i only own rowan at elite level.
That’s saying you can ascend Rowan, Daimon and Raku once you reach 4/8 copies because their signature items make early campaign much easier
Whereas with all other heroes, you should wait until you have 8/8 copies before starting to ascend them
👆
thx
do i have anything good? i need help 😭
pls help me
how do i beat this??
use grez and solise
idk how that works
Wdym
Click on the link (I even searched up the correct stage for you) and look what other people used and simply copy their formation/ artifacts
use nara on that isa
good enough
that’s my nara… awful 😭
just put her on crystal
my nara is E+ without gear in ch36 wdym
oh really??
yeah
I made an tutorial just for you
thankyouu < 3

THIS ATHALIA IS SO FKN ANNOYING
There is no athalia in 29-46? ^^ or dis you manage to beat this stage?
General counter for athalia is placing Brutus opposite of her since she cant kill him because of invincibility
it’s fine i beat her now
im on 29-53 now nd i can’t beat it : (
nvm i beat it lol but now 54 i definitely can’t
Here, should be self explaining now ^^
Use that lineup and give rowan (call) and daimon (eye)
yeah but where do i put them??
wait nvm i’m dumb that’s a diff one dw
Just click them in the same order as they are shown. Top to bottom
You'll need way more retries for future chapters, so enjoy this while you can xd
If you are on android/ emulator you can install a auto clicker which does all the work for you
i’ve tried it atleast 30+ times nd still can’t do it 😕
nvm i used a shemira instead of fereal and won
I just got the game what should I run
=earlygame and also check out pinned guides in #classic-questions
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
can someone help me I can’t beat this level and don’t know where to go from here
hello guys i have an question i just pulled lion's pride brutus is he good
Is he better than Thoran and Grezhul
Help?
Any help? Thx
I want to replace Joker by someone else, have you any recommandation ?
So I've got a stall variant using 209 ezio 309 Thoran 30946 Talene 203 Flora and 203 theowyn... Does a 209 Orthos have any place in this team?
help Im stuck
Tbh I'd rather replace Lucius and Shemira
Shemira is my only dps, who can replace her in this comp ? and joker have absoluty no damage in this comp
Because Joker needs cc to deal damage 
Best team comp I can build? Without Alna or Mehira
any help with this stage i cant seem to get the rng i needed so idk if theres a formation thatll work better
Suggestions? Unfortunately i cant use ainz cuz my garrison expired.
Anyone have a screenshot of world map for The White Woods, chapter 16
any help?
Merc Scarlet and then I guess slap in Daimon, Estrilda, Raine and Silas
Or perhaps twins instead of Estrilda/Daimon. Not ideal, but I don't think you can do better for now
if u have a mehira u can use raku charm
oh wait silvina jk
daimon doesnt work?
He doesnt survive long enough to ult unless i put brutus instead of rowan. But then i need brutus for r3 because im using luc5pull and there's a maid bitch there.
you can try to put Atalene with barricade
just make sure that daimon has highest power
Oh shit i forgot about that. Im gonna try.
also you can try charm with Aezizh for that silvina
@keen rain can i replace mishka with something 
also fera is for Aezizh in here
yes
hey which one is good raku ,Lyca ,Kren ?
I use Thoran , Grezhul , Oden, Lyca and Kren as my team
idk, she's there for cc so grezh doesnt die immeidately. if u can find a replacement like alna then probs yeah. but heroes like brutus prolly wont work
this is my second day at the game , can you guys please help me for good create good team
9k poe from earl chest seem juicy
also mv soon 
mv poe quests are hard 
i have tarnos from stones and vyloris merc 
unless he forgor about that merc
from aurora?
sure why not
no, from my guild mate
oh
i recommend you this team
team looks dogwater
where is your +30 rowan 
brought me through so many chapters
but i don't have even half of the heroes for this team
im still building him
what chapter are you at
36
makes sense
Rowan si30 is like highest priority, not like daimon/eirron
thats ok... its just a recommendation
i would also recommend you to build your shemira... she is good at the beginning
No she is not?!
shit the fuck up with your stupid recommendations
she is
She was used 3 years ago
calm
Your are hella outdated
you're fucing dogshit
sure there are better options but she IS still ok
Dude stop giving advice. Seriously... You maxed out daimon, engraved lucius+ brutus+ tasi.... Have you even looked at a single guide yourself?
she's ulmus tier
sure
whats so bad at Tasi
she was like 3 years ago????
She doesnt need engraving?!
still gets better with
chill guys
Complete waste of ressources
sorry for my questions ahaha
all good
Not your fault at all. Just be careful who you listen too 🙃
chill about what? a dumbass giving dogshit advices?
not your fault bruh
it's because these type of people that new players like u get misled
i would also recommend you to build your scarlet... she is strong
okay i level up my abrutus as you say
nice
scarlet hmm
Always keep his level as high as possible
alright, if he become useless i will swtich to Daimon
Scarlett needs lots of investment to work properly, so you can ascend her, but she wont be of much use for now
@hoary karma ignore this zarro clown :D
thx for your advices guys
do this
Raku is btw also a really good hero
yeah but they and guides says its late game hero so i will look at him later
hes good at mythic eith 30 si
i don't know what is mythic eith 30 si ahahaha , what kind of language is this i guess 30th chapter ?
red border hero with 30 signature item
Unless u swap scroll but that’s a me problem
Any1 know how I can best this
im 3 floors below you 
I am at 540 now 🥶
so it worked?
Somehow yes
nice
Drop luc in back and then just some fodder in front
there is this thing called power cap
ankhira or angelo for pve?
once you get raku to 30si then you have a chance at 2 teams winning till then its sort of difficult
i can si 30 it right now 😄
defenitly do that
raku
rowan
rosa
lyca
raine
daimon
grez
nimusu
thoran
kren
if those win then youll win
Somebody please help I’ve been stuck on this stage for days
you lack nara to pull isabella and your daimon isnt mythic so your pretty stuck
I'd read the beginner's guides if I were you. You are ascending heroes in ways that's guaranteed your current situation. You may want to restart with a new account or reset a bunch of heroes and follow that guide. Not sure which would be better for ya.
tyyyyyy ❤️
quit making so Legendary heros who have 4 skills other than that not really much i suggest atm
Sorry I meant for like teams
it can be different per stage depends on what your facing
To avoid getting yourself woefully stuck, I'd recommend reading the beginner's guides pinned in #classic-questions
They elaborate on the following: ⬇️ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
Hi! I started the game just a few days ago and here is my lineup so far, I’m starting to struggle a bit so I was wondering if maybe I should change my lineup. Here are also the heroes I got so far!
I started recently as well. I would advise that you only focus on 5 heroes at a time and utilize the Resonating Crystal. Should look like this picture: I only level 5 at a time, everyone in the box below is technically only level 1, but they match the lowest level of my five main. Also =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
I also think you need to fix your Tavern wishlist
I see, but I'm not sure which hero I should put in the crystal
I do have Daimon, should I level up her ?
Ideas to help
Yeah sec early game really doesn't matter, but I would say the five you should focus on for now at least are
Daimon
Silas
Wukong
Shemira
Nemora
@cold epoch
Noted! Are they particularly good or just great heroes for early game?
They're names i recognize from the ascension priority list lol
Don't ascend carelessly past Elite+, you will run into an upgrade issue down the line if you do so (I'm looking at your Legendary Gwyn)
=ascend
How to Ascend Heroes
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994908234135646268
no wait....thats not it sec
Oh ok my bad 
here are the heroes you need to focus on; don't ascend any until you for sure can get at least Legendary+
Noted!
Hyper-focus the Graveborn (GB) faction
Is it better than the other factions for the adventure?
Assuming your Tavern wishlist is set correctly, the Graveborn heroes are by far the strongest to start with, especially Daimon and Silas
They're new-player accessible
To be honest I barely touched my tavern wishlist
Yes I noticed haha, let me find you a decent one to copy
Thank you!!
Here's the one from the beginner guide
Some changes I made (which is purely subjective) are: wilders, replace pippa with astar; for graveborn replace thoran with silas
Alright! Thanks a lot for your help!!
Yeah no prob; btw KREN looks like VURK in the maulers; dont make the same mistake I did lol
(in the screenshot, he's the first photo on the second row)
Ok haha
hey I was just thinking
if you're not too far into the game yet; would you be open to restarting? Fodder efficiency is super important early game, and Gwyn is definitely a misstep
I mean sure I would, I'm only at the 7th world
Can I reset without making a new account?
Yeah go to settings and look for "Select Server"
You preserve your account but you start over in a new server. If for whatever reason you hate it, you can always go back to your original
Oooh that's nice!
I'll reset tomorrow following your advises
Yeah! Regarding fodder efficiency, you can ascend whoever whenever however many times to get to Elite+, but primarily focus on Graveborn heroes to ascend (using that link I sent earlier), and only ascend once Legendary+ is guaranteed

Noted!
Thanks a lot again!
Wait but that means I'll lose all the codes rewards I got :l
No you can re-use codes on new servers
The only downside is if any expired I suppose but I made two avatars on the same account on different servers within a week of each other and they used the same codes. Nothing too material I think...

Can i get help with this? I been doing this for 30 minutes straight and it feels like i'm hitting my head into a brick wall
try
Silas
Thoran
Daimon
awBrutus
Nara
Silas is gonna die to Silvana no matter what
just hope he gets that green goop out before he dies haha
Used it and beat it 2nd try. Thanks
wait you mean my suggestion worked?
Yep

Can someone help me what should i do? do i need to reset the celestials? its hard to ascend them
Hey man, if you haven't spent money, you're realistically not too far into the game such that restarting might be your best bet. Fodder/ascending efficiency is very important in the early game and those first three heroes you have will decidedly hamper your progression. =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
huhuhu is it that bad
it's not bad, it's frankly dogshit
It could have been better is the words I choose to use 
AHAHAHAHAA
fine i'll restart in new server
what if i get bad heroes again in new server
Probably for the best. You can pretty much do whatever you want up until level 120, Elite+ tier. You need to be careful with whom you ascend further, and only ascend when you can go straight to Legendary+.
fix your wishlist read guides you wouldnt get bad heroes
ok but what heroes r bad n good idk
read the guides
read pins in #classic-questions
ok ty i'll try it now

yea rng was not very good but okay start
thoran and mishka
i should focus on miskha as my carry right?
click share on something lol; you will get wukong for free; he will be your carry until lv100
omg yea
saurus luc or scarlet might work tho scarlet might nuke your team
Thanks wym scarlet might nuke my team? She can team kill?
her ult has chance to hit teammates
Oh lol thanks
Anyone help with light bearer team this is for PoT viper's marsh I'm going left side
wat
Hi
ok
yes
why lb team
Idk cus the enemies on left side are majlers and I get 100% dmg bonus
smart
just use whatever bruh
merc ainz or lucretia
ye, im new, help w start team plz 
Mishka, Daimon, Raku, A Solise and Nara probably
tysm 
Can u merc me 🥺
i cant merc ainz tho
Luc?
Am still kinda getting clapped but I'll continue later
use her and 4 lvl 1 hypo
Yeea that's what I'm doing I use different lvl 1s tho after the hypos die
Best lineup I can make rn please
feed wukong
you wont need one if you feed him
I have
stop feeding everyone but him
This is my lineup for now and going strong
make him carry hard
he will do all the earlygame work
i had my carry lvl 80 and everyone else 40 back then
Elite+ Scarlet instead Solise and Ferael instead Hogan
But won't that leave me without frontline?
You really think that matters early game?
I used Belinda as a tank
Oh alright, thank you very much. Ferael in front right?
You can put Scarlet front
Wait who should be the highest level after wukong? I leveled ferael cause I thought he was tanking, scarlet is 20 rn
Im getting destroyed on 11-22 can someone help?
What should I make my team comp
Stuck here please help
Level ur scarlet
that's all? no better lineup you have in mind?
im new too idk a lot
because what happens is my team gets destroyed in one second and then wukong has too much to deal with alone
maybe level lyca to get the awe ability and that extra haste might help
who should I take out to place lyca?
maybe fera also fera shouldnt be front row
so lyca instead of fera and the rest stays the same?
think so
Best team comp? Without Alna or Mehira
u dont have many options without these 2
For tower
Then what are the few options I have?
Team help?
Can someone help me make a team to beat this stage? (I have elite+ ferael now as well)
I simply can't get past this
don’t focus on wu kong
Hi guys, anysuggestion in What to upgrade per use?
Best team i can make rn? (Overall)
Can you be more specific?
put more levels into scarlet ig
but the main problem is that everyone gets demolished before wukong can do something
that’s why don’t put too much into wu kong
put scarlet at the back and get others to tank a bit until scarlet can use her ability
Whats the best team i can make rn? (Overall)
Mm can somebody help w this?
so ur saying I should make scarlet the carry instead of wu kong? can you specify exactly how many levels into both of them
yea somewhat
make a new acc
how many levels into each would u say
abt 80+ into scarlet and spread the rest evenly
also try to find a tank so that scarlet can have more time to charge
Why though?
the selection is kinda meh
and after I get through this stage should I go back to wukong carry?
no wu kong falls out pretty fast just spam scarlet
should i put daimon in front or back
Since ill be making a new acc, anything i need to know abt spending resources etc?
back unless u don’t have good tank
alright
uhhh i’ll send u a wishlist to use gimme a sec
also kren or mirael
this is my wishlist
neither
Do i save gems or do i spend them on summons?
summon
only carries i have besides scarlet
just spam scarlet
nvm daimon
What exactly does wishlist do? Increase chances?
use the others as tank and put most levels into daimon and scarlet
yea just increase the chances of getting the characters in the wishlist when getting an elite
What is the issue
What is ur problem and show box
🗳️
Hilaaaaaarious
i can't beat them
Well obviously but why
i thought there's a way to beat them
There is
why is your rowan 20si
Maybe try hogan swolise mishka daimon arden
they instantly beat my back liner
I think u could have gotten 3 30 si by now my alt has 2 30 in ch 26
no because ezizh is there

r1 rowan mid so again no
Fairly new to the game just wondering who to build as a 5th for my team (obviously not including the character that has a timer on it)
Stuck again
Who’s best f2p healer
Chose Solise as your guaranteed pull
Hi, guys
silas
Anyone has an idea what im doing wrong here? Tried for several hours and yet no success…
or maybe you have wrong gear
Gear should be alright but idk why its not working
@mental glen 
Oh okay thanks for the tipp! Ill try it
Ezizh needs to mind control fawkes
Okay thanks! Does Daimon need his SI30
No, he is there to tank fawkes coffin. He doesn't need 30 for that.
I'm struggling in Arena as I don't have a +100 Ainz like everybody else is there a draft/Hero that beats Ainz, Oden is the best I got but he's not enough as most the drafts just have 4 protect Ainz and he just ultis once and everybody dies and I can't stop him no matter how much I try
Athane counters ainz
I had planned to get Alna but F2P trying to get Celesgeons takes ages
I only JUST obtained Thane Ascended this morning so he's very weak
Abrutus counters ainz too 
I tried for 1.5h now and still nothing. Anything else could be wrong? Or is this just a horrible rng stage?
Rng since ur deficit isnt as high as hybridxy
Ferael spirits and fear are rng so it may be that. But I got close a couple of times before I won.
What team should i use? (Overall)
That "overall" team does not really exist. You have to change things up based on who you're facing. But it looks like you would benefit from reading the beginners guides pinned to #classic-questions. Also ⬇️ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
@hardy dagger
i mean its flora 
the first round is much worse imo. Alna gb vs kelthur
dam fun stage overall then
any help with this stage pls? i have open spots on my RC so if any of those other heroes can help i can add them
Doubt Eironn is getting much value there, could try throwing Rowan in his place.
was just trying to disrupt isabella but i will try that now and update whether it works or not
That is a fair point, if scar isn't living to ult you can also work brutus in there for her to sit behind
Brutus instead of estrilda for sure
scar does dmg but everyone dies quickly to the point where she cant kill maybe but 1 person
brutus just dies instantly as well even through his shield
abex final boss comp?
mishka grez twins hodge estrilda
Any tips? Nawa doesn't really CC the healer good enough so nothing ends up dying
in these situations i tend to wanna take out the damage dealer as the healers dont matter if you take out their dps so try making nara pull mirael
This my last box and
Furn il post when i wake up i dont see one rn
@crimson shale
Okay just dm it to me when u wake up along with ur box including celhypos
Any advice
I’m trying to push the campaign using solise’s free trial, any tips?
I see how much of a difference Rowan makes now wish I had a copy or two on this account
Any tips how to improve formation
Raise any hero's engraving
Rowan
Skriath
Eironn
what
What what?
i mean is that a question
Yep which one
hello, i am fairly new here and i was just wondering if you guys can help me with my team. my team consists of
should i replace any of my team with the ones below? i appreciate your help guys
I hear wukong is a great carry for below lvl 100 u should probably level him but idk who to replace w him
Help to maximize dmg plz
can i see ur hero box, those choices are not worth it to engrave
rosa
scarlet
rowan
grez
daimon
no one just do joan if u haven’t then consider eirron if u gonna use him as carry
btw if engraving reset return, reset SILAS engraving
Thanks
consider getting twins copy
Will do when I unlock stargazjng
Wait why i just now raised him to 60 bc some guys told me
because engraving silas will cause problems in cr later due to silas being the highest power, besides at ur stage u dont even engrave silas at all
I really hate how scarlet just kills herself like 30 seconds in 😢
cringe also that your “friend” told u to engrave silas not Oden
@crude river who told u that anyway
Some friends ;-;
forget them ig 
Ummm cant i just make both of them E60 or still?
raku e60 is even better than silas, well it isnt the worst but you will have problems later on
Ic ic alright many thxs
Can someone help me form a strong lineup please.. I tried scarlet carry, wukong carry, daimon carry(like in the pinned guide), still stuck..
no one responds to newbies like us. guess we just have to figure it out for ourselves.
Im still a bit new as well but what i would do is Daimon - Hogan in front then Ferael Silas and Oden in back, i could be wrong but thats what I would do
Damn that actually works really well, I've advanced quite a few stages. Thank you
Np! I try to help when i can even though im also new lmao
i seriously need help with this one, ive tried every single formation :((
Go all in on save as. Max out your carry then rest
I am on LB tower level 496 any ideas on the 2 teams I can field my scarlet team can pass the first team but my second seems impossible to make decently and win I can swap on the reso crystal so if you have line ups feel free to mention it and I will answer
its either time to invest into thane or athane as a carry
Have you checked afkhelper? There's a few clears below your RC without AThane/Thane. Most use scarlet on second team.
level mireal as high as you can and hope she can clear the enemies
Ok, and which 4 others?
not familiar with AFKhelper
rosa
mishka
mireal
daimon
lyca
Has a bunch of screenshots of people's clears
https://afkhelper.nax.is/tower_of_light.php?floor=496
I am on the following towers LB 496 maulers 503 wilders 506 any ideas on the 2 teams I can field my first team and can pass the first team but my second seems impossible to make decently and win I can swap on the reso crystal so if you have line ups feel free to mention it and I will answer honestly need some tower help for all of them except GB since they are my main dudes for the most part. of course ignore awakened solise she's temp
ok cool I will check it out
Alr tq
how much investing into thane is needed for that my current thane is pretty bare
i choose to get athane due to his use in cr ts and other pvp releated things but i know both thanes need 309e60 iirc which for athane is worth but reg thane does have one cr bis as well
ok well probably going to have to pause that tower for a while then since I have like none of him
focus wilders and gb since investing into them is actually a good thing to do where as most maulers and lbs are niche uses
yeah my GB tower is easy with all my heavy investment into them but I wouldn't mind getting the stargazer scrolls to get my extra non diamond pulls in for the hypo/cele
are you at ch 31?
thats fair but its going to be costly to do so and tower is much less than other events that give stargazer cards weekly if your scoring well such as ts
ch32
good your doing well, so either you need to invest into AAA or a mehira charm comp now
209 ainz 303 albedo and 203 arthur
charm needs e mehira rosa rowan lyca and raku 30si
so si20 thor is enough? Im summoning for more Ascended 4F heroes so i cant get charmizard or AAA yet
thoran only works well if you have a decent deficit and i dont know many people who choose to use thoran cheese over those comps i listed above since you dont have auto battle unlocked unless your using a macro
tks
I need help with 25 52
How does my lucretia keep losing to his?? What the fuck
His twins always ults before mine when mine is literally fucking e60. My ezizh is 309. My lucretia e80 3 stars. No matter what order I try
Any tips
Try:
Ferael
Grez
Silas/rowan
Brutus
Daimon
U can try removing ferael weapon so (apparently) he fears faster.
Arden/astar/lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Nara
Ok I will let u know if it works
My bad.
Order is grez,brutus,ferael,silas/rowan,daimon
Yea
it doesnt work
Try using rowan or Asolise instead of silas. Also u need ur ferael to fear the enemy ferael.
oh ok
Do u have eironn
yes elite+
Lyca worked thx
add me 143737219 and copy my team if u can
do it again
there
done
your team?
u cant find it in the formations?
no
use this
u still have a week to go, and sometimes u need some retries for the rng to work
done
Hi I'm back again. I can't keep Rowan safe
have you tried mirael instead of rowan
Yeah they both die too fast
try putting zikis on the resonating table, move lyca to the middle, the put zikis in for rowan
Mmm but my crystal is full rn
i dont think you need estrilda on the resonating table
Okay I'll try it
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Nope not working
But my crystal full ;-;
Me too 
I mean I don't mind taking off some but the cooldown is so long
Oh
I just put Silas in and it worked 🥵
what heroes to be finish in chapter 19 to 21
Need help building a team
Its so hard
Can anyone tell me why isn't Thoran hitting them? Is it an accuracy/dodge thing?
Hey can some1 help? I thinking to swap main dps to Shemira maybe? Any tips of my lineups? Is some1 good here?
Will try it, thank you
Shemira is really bad so stick to Daimon. Skriath is also bad at your stage because it needs more investment so you can probably even remove it from the crystal, probably Grez and Scarlet too.
I'd try Brutus instead of Thoran, Daimon backline, Oden for Skriath, and possibly something else instead of Lyca like Silas, Ferael, Arden. You can also possibly use Nara to target one of their backliners.
Check afk helper for comps that work if you want
Anyone can help which heroes should i use or not?
I want to put rosaline as support
Help it's Isabella again 😭
Okay
thx a lot man!
I need help with who to put on my team, currently i have grezhul,belinda,lucious,rowan,lyca but it doesn’t work that well tbh
What stage are you on? It's easier to come up with a team when people can see what team you're facing. Not every stage too is going to be beaten by the same one comp. You may need to switch some people around depending on the stage
Like, can you post a ss of the team? I don't know what team you face on that stage
Whats a good team for clearing ch 8? Kinda struggling with it.
ch 8 is mostly Graveborn and Maulers btw
U look fine, just level up
Yoo is this team good?
no.
check #classic-questions pins
Compa for ch38? Time to move on
i dont have 5 slots in resonating crystal yet so who works best with Wu kong, Daimon, Oden and Astar out of these Legendary fodder heroes: Mirael, Silvina, Ankhira, Angelo or Ira?
Any help with last team?
i dont have 5 slots in resonating crystal yet so who works best with Wu kong, Daimon, Oden and Astar out of these Legendary fodder heroes: Mirael, Silvina, Ankhira, Angelo or Ira?
You can just keep resetting between the 5 you wrote. It's 20 diamonds. I personally used Arden (he's the Wilder old-looking sage guy). His root skill is pretty useful. If you don't have him, then either Mirael or Silvina. I used all 3, Arden the most.
I stopped using them once I got my 5th non-fodder to M (so around chapter 19 I think).
No no, im doing what the guide says aka getting 5 fodders to L+ and lvling them up and putting the characters youre going to use into the resonating crystal.
Yes. And my answer was Arden. He's fodder. If you don't have him, then either Mirael or Silvina.
Okay

What comp cant i build against thus?
Read the beginner’s guide in #classic-questions
It looks like you didn't read the beginner's guides. I'd recommend them.
which biginner's guide?
They are pinned to #classic-questions. Also, read this: ⬇️ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
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so should i reset all my heroes and focus on these fodders?
I would, except daimon. Use Daimon instead of Hogan and level Daimon as your carry.
What are some good supports
Who should I focus?
Bit stuck on who to use and how to beat this. I want to stop using Hogan but I’m not really sure who to replace him with. Can someone help?
Isabella just destroys my back line
I stopped using Hogan very quickly cuz he might be the softest tank I've ever encountered. If I were you, I'd reset him and level Mirael. Try tanking with Daimon. If that doesn't work, tank with one of your other a-tier heroes on the crystal.
Daimon works but Hogan just dies way too quickly then my back line can’t get a heal off so everything falls apart
Yeah, I think I stopped using Hogan around Ch 5 or something really early. Completely useless.
Who should be my front line?
Usually a list of heroes goes from position 1 through 5:
3
1
4
2
5
try
asolise
joan
silas
daimon
astar
I think I just need to focus on leveling because nothings working
The solise just gets popped instantly and can’t her ult off which kinda sucks
It looks like you would benefit from reading the beginner's guides pinned to #classic-questions. Also this: ⬇️ =earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
What don't you understand? The early game explanation above? The beginner's guides? Or what?
The early game above
Please be more specific. What part don't you understand?
Like, who should I put on my team specifically
Did you read the guides I mentioned? That's where that information is.

